[00:09] <mrooney> bdmurray: could a tag or something be useful for this sort of bug, once we know when it will be fixed
[00:09] <mrooney> like willfix-jaunty or something
[00:15] <hggdh> I am not sure a tag would help here
[00:25] <bdmurray> I think the resolved upstream search would find them
[00:27] <hggdh> yes
[00:30] <mrooney> oh, okay!
[01:06] <mrooney> hm, so how do you debug or file an ambiguous issue like "rhythmbox skips when playing music"
[01:06] <mrooney> it can't seem to play any songs without a few skips in Intrepid for me
[01:06] <wgrant> pulseaudio
[01:07] <mrooney> wgrant: do you mean that is the package to file it under?
[01:07] <mrooney> or that I can somehow use pulseaudio to figure out what causes the skip
[01:08] <wgrant> mrooney: That's the package, more than likely.
[01:09] <mrooney> yes, let me try in totem and see what happens
[01:09] <wgrant> mrooney: If it still happens in totem, open up gstreamer-properties and change it to use ALSA rather than PulseAudio, and see if it still occurs.
[01:10] <mrooney> haha totem crashes if I drag an mp3 to it
[01:10] <mrooney> "The program 'totem' received an X Window System error."
[01:13] <mrooney> hm "gdb --args totem --sync" doesn't seem to help on that one
[01:21] <mrooney> wgrant: hmm, still some skips on alsa with rb
[01:21] <wgrant> mrooney: Damn. Do other apps like mplayer skip?
[01:21] <mrooney> perhaps that is good, the last thing Ubuntu needs is another pulseaudio issue
[01:21] <mrooney> let me install it...
[01:26] <mrooney> well mplayer is friendlier on CPU at least, 7% compared to 12% with rb+pulse and 22% with rb+alsa
[01:26] <mrooney> ...but it still skips
[01:27] <mrooney> I wonder what it could be...
[01:29] <mrooney> player and sound server agnostic
[01:31] <mrooney> wgrant: I've been watching `top` the whole time too, I don't see anything pop up during a skip
[01:31] <wgrant> mrooney: Clearly something ALSAish... you might want to poke TheMuso about it.
[01:31] <mrooney> though I've noticed on Intrepid Xorg constantly seems to use 12-20%
[01:32] <mrooney> could it be related to that, I wonder?
[01:33] <mrooney> and also where might I find this TheMuso
[01:34] <wgrant> mrooney: #ubuntu-devel is good.
[01:34] <wgrant> mrooney: He's in .au.
[01:34] <mrooney> wgrant: okay when music ISN'T playing, Xorg drops back down to 1-2%, though anything can drive it back to that higher level including fast typing
[01:35] <mrooney> thanks, I'll try that
[01:35] <mrooney> I wonder if it could be that I am not using fglrx here
[01:36] <wgrant> I doubt it - nobody on Intrepid can use fglrx.
[01:37] <mrooney> right
[01:38] <mrooney> but I mean on an older computer, maybe the FOSS driver is slower enough compared to fglrx to make music skip
[01:38] <mrooney> although it doesn't seem at all related to using compiz effects or other such things
[01:52] <csilk> I'm packageing an application. Most of the app is wirtten by mrX one small section is written by mrY, do i put mrX and mrY in the copyright file or not?
[01:52] <csilk> *packaging
[01:52] <wgrant> csilk: #ubuntu-motu, and yes.
[01:53] <csilk> wgrant,  motu is a little dead, and thanks
[02:02] <nhandler_> csilk: If mrY only wrote one file, you should probably mention that in the copyright file.
[02:03] <csilk> Thanks
[02:05] <csilk> nhandler_, sorry to keep bugging you with questions... if one of the copyright holders has no listed email address does that matter?
[02:06] <nhandler_> csilk: If they have no email address listed in any of the files, and it is not on the upstream website, then there is nothing you can do. Just list their name with no email address.
[02:07] <csilk> Maybe I'm being to anal about this, sorry
[02:07] <csilk> I'll follow my common sense and revu can throw it back if there is an issue
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[07:36] <Hobbsee> oh, wtf?
[07:36]  * Hobbsee shakes her head at people.
[07:39] <nixternal> you need to do more than shake!
[07:48] <Hobbsee> nixternal: just more of the guy who doesn't understand that #ubuntu, and only #ubuntu, not #ubuntu-quality, #ubuntu-bugs, OR #ubuntu-meeting, is the support channel.
[08:11] <Hew> Hey guys. I'm looking at the traceback of bug 272661 and bug 273231 and they look very similar. Is it appropriate to mark as a dupe?
[08:11] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 272661 in jockey "jockey-gtk crashed with AttributeError in handler_info()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272661
[08:11] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 273231 in jockey "jockey-gtk crashed with AttributeError in handler_info()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/273231
[10:44] <elmargol> I think i have a release critial bug. Using the closed source nvidia driver. Who does kernel/nvidia bugs?
[10:45] <ivoks> i don't think bugs in closed source program can be critical
[10:46] <ivoks> it's not like we can do anything about bug in closed source program
[10:46] <elmargol> Well it crashes the x server. + the terminals and you have to reboot
[10:46] <ivoks> i think that's a known bug, since i've already heard people talking about that
[10:46] <elmargol> ivoks: It has to be kernel related. it works on hardy using the same driver
[10:46] <ivoks> did you check launchpad?
[10:47] <elmargol> ivoks: I'm still reading all the bug reports... not sure if it is allrady reportet
[10:47] <ivoks> if not, report it
[10:47] <elmargol> well there is not much to report. no messages in the logs :/
[10:48] <ivoks> launchpad has this nice feature - it will do it's best to find a bug with same symptoms and offer it to you as a duplicate
[11:42] <Le-Chuck_ITA> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/276222
[11:42] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 276222 in compiz "Guest session and any other session can't be started if compiz is enabled" [Undecided,New]
[11:43] <Le-Chuck_ITA> I ask you a quick favour: if you have intrepid can you test if guest session works if compiz is enabled and in case it doesn't confirm the bug above?
[11:43] <Le-Chuck_ITA> it's a pity a new functionality would not work. I have a i945 video card so if you have that card of course you are particularly invited :)
[11:45] <wgrant> Le-Chuck_ITA: Ahaha, I was wondering why it wasn't working any more.
[11:45] <wgrant> Le-Chuck_ITA: I can confirm that - i915 here.
[11:46] <Le-Chuck_ITA> wgrant do you own a toshiba? I always find you in the same bug as mine
[11:46] <Le-Chuck_ITA> bugs
[11:46] <wgrant> Le-Chuck_ITA: No, Dell.
[11:46] <Le-Chuck_ITA> ah ok so my bugs are more common than I expected
[11:46] <Le-Chuck_ITA> could you please confirm on the report? and let's hope someone will notice that
[11:46] <wgrant> Done a while ago.
[11:46] <Le-Chuck_ITA> thanks
[12:01] <ivoks> anyone expirienced sleep-loop?
[12:02] <ivoks> sometimes when i put my intrepid into sleep, after waking up it goes to sleep again
[12:02] <ivoks> :)
[12:02] <ivoks> i'll file a bug 'sleep works too good in intrepid' :)
[12:04] <Hobbsee> actually, i think htat has been mentioned before.
[12:04] <Hobbsee> ivoks: if you look (not sure what under), you'll probably find the bug
[12:06] <wgrant> ivoks: How are you putting it to sleep?
[12:23] <ivoks> wgrant: Fn+F3
[12:23] <ivoks> this is toshiba... btw... there's no way to enable bluetooth in intrepid on this machine :( it worked in hardy
[12:23] <ivoks> this is cause toshiba-acpi was replaced with this new driver
[14:31] <charlie-tca> Could I have the importance in bug 196488 set to wishlist?
[14:31] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 196488 in gnumeric "Unhelpful errors when trying to save to a read-only file" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/196488
[14:32] <charlie-tca> It really is a request to change the wording of the error message
[15:09] <charlie-tca> could I have the importance in bug 232161 set to wishlist? It is for a feature request
[15:09] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 232161 in gnumeric "no shortcut for toggling between absolute and relative addressing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/232161
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[16:32] <lfaraone> chrisccoulson: sure.
[16:32] <lfaraone> * charlie-tca
[16:32] <lfaraone> chrisccoulson: oops, sorry.
[16:32] <chrisccoulson> i take it you didn't mean to talk to me ;)
[16:33] <charlie-tca> did you mean to talk to me?
[16:33] <lfaraone> charlie-tca: yes.
[16:33] <charlie-tca> Sure, what can I do?
[16:33] <lfaraone> charlie-tca: you might want to forward 232161 upstream.
[16:33] <lfaraone> charlie-tca: I marked it as wishlist for you.
[16:33] <chrisccoulson> bug 232161
[16:33] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 232161 in gnumeric "no shortcut for toggling between absolute and relative addressing" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/232161
[16:33] <chrisccoulson> ;)
[16:34] <charlie-tca> Thanks. I'll check that out at bugzilla
[16:34] <chrisccoulson> yeah, that should definately go upstream. brainstorm is not the place for that type of request
[16:35] <charlie-tca> Works for me. I'll forward it
[17:39] <Chorca> what up, got a quick q
[17:40] <Chorca> There's some issues in the installer program.. i'm wondering which package that is..
[17:42] <chrisccoulson> Chorca - Are you using the live CD?
[17:42] <Chorca> yeah, the normal CD..
[17:42] <chrisccoulson> you're best off reporting the bug against ubiquity
[17:43] <Chorca> Okay. it's an issue with the text below the partitions in the partitioner.. they get all bunched on top of each other after you select another option.
[17:43] <chrisccoulson> it would be good to attach a screenshot to your bug reprot
[17:43] <chrisccoulson> **bug report even
[17:44] <Chorca> yeah, i've got some 'o those :D
[17:44] <Chorca> I dunno if anyone else has seen it either.. but also in the first boot, if compiz effects are enabled, starting firefox yields no titlebar.
[17:45] <charlie-tca> chrisccoulson, lfaraone : Forwarded Bug 232161 upstream; thanks for helping me
[17:45] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 232161 in gnumeric "no shortcut for toggling between absolute and relative addressing" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/232161
[17:45] <chrisccoulson> thanks for doing that
[17:51] <Chorca> think that's a compiz issue?
[17:53] <Chorca> lol nm, been reported.
[17:59] <mrooney> Chorca: bug number?
[18:00] <Chorca> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/257947/
[18:00] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 257947 in firefox-3.0 "After install of 8.10 alpha 4 Firefox opens with tool bar under top panel." [Undecided,Confirmed]
[18:00] <Chorca> updated it with a screenshot
[18:02] <mrooney> is bug 278190 a dupe of bug 259157?
[18:02] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 278190 in linux "Macbook Pro Wireless frequently fails to connect to WEP network" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/278190
[18:02] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 259157 in network-manager "[MASTER 0.7 regression] atheros/madwifi and orinoco drivers not supported" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259157
[18:03] <mrooney> asac: ping?
[18:05] <vignesh_> Hi
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[23:09] <asac> mrooney: ?