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doorntje | hello | 11:01 |
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doorntje | i've an complain an ubuntu channel | 11:01 |
nalioth | doorntje: what seems to be the trouble? | 11:02 |
bazhang | doorntje, do you know why you were banned | 11:02 |
doorntje | nja, they gave me an permban because i said: anti-rude-mods | 11:02 |
doorntje | it were in #ubuntu-nl-offtopic | 11:03 |
doorntje | could someone help me? | 11:04 |
nalioth | w/o the input from the ops, there's not much to do, i'm afraid | 11:06 |
ompaul | doorntje, to understand more of what is expected of users and ops alike please read these two documents, they may inform your decision | 11:09 |
ompaul | !guidelines | 11:09 |
ubottu | The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | 11:09 |
ompaul | !codeofconduct | 11:09 |
ubottu | The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ | 11:09 |
doorntje | i've actually read that | 11:11 |
doorntje | could someone help me? | 11:44 |
erUSUL | doorntje: as nalioth said the other side of the story is needed | 11:47 |
doorntje | but they ignore me when i ask somethinh | 11:50 |
bazhang | doorntje, when did this happen | 11:52 |
doorntje | 2 months ago they banned me | 11:55 |
bazhang | doorntje, and you are banned from #ubuntu-nl as well? | 11:55 |
doorntje | and #ubuntu-nl-offtopic | 11:55 |
doorntje | i asked Seveas and SWAT to come on this channel | 11:56 |
bazhang | doorntje, well absent their input nothing can be done. | 11:56 |
doorntje | tonight i heared they gave me a permban | 11:56 |
doorntje | ow, it were 1.5 month ago | 12:00 |
doorntje | August 18 | 12:01 |
doorntje | bazhang: the ops wouldn't come to this channel... | 13:56 |
LjL | hm? | 14:02 |
Myrtti | oh? | 14:02 |
Myrtti | I've seen them both here on several occasions | 14:02 |
LjL | don't anger the dutch, you are bound to regret it. | 14:07 |
doorntje | shell i ask it again? | 14:11 |
LjL | doorntje, not knowing precisely what happened, my suggestion would be to leave them alone for a couple of days, then try asking nicely | 14:12 |
doorntje | owkeej, | 14:13 |
doorntje | someone is now uploading the logs of August 18 for me ;) | 14:15 |
doorntje | SWAT: can i talk with you about my ban? | 16:31 |
doorntje | dead line... | 17:48 |
Myrtti | doorntje: I'm sorry, but the operators do have life outside IRC | 17:53 |
LjL | and nobody told me before? | 17:54 |
Myrtti | LjL: shut up. | 17:54 |
Myrtti | you've been on the alps. | 17:54 |
Myrtti | I've been working allllll summer. | 17:54 |
Myrtti | bar Lugradio Live and Assembly08 | 17:54 |
LjL | Myrtti: hey, i've walked 5 hours a day and taken a lot of photos of flowers. | 17:54 |
Myrtti | oh shut up. | 17:55 |
Myrtti | I hate you. | 17:55 |
LjL | that's only fair | 17:55 |
doorntje | Myrtti: sometimes you think they doesn't have | 17:55 |
* doorntje were also been on the alps | 17:56 | |
doorntje | it's 1000km from here by car | 17:56 |
doorntje | here some copy from logs | 18:07 |
doorntje | [Mon Aug 18 2008] [21:29:55] <doorntje>[EXIT 4] Anti Rude Mods Parkway --> | 18:07 |
doorntje | Mon Aug 18 2008] [21:35:45] <doorntje>Seveas Parkway â-/-> | 18:08 |
doorntje | and then Seveas banned me | 18:08 |
Myrtti | and we still need him and some other -nl ops here | 18:10 |
doorntje | SWAT is here already | 18:11 |
doorntje | i asked Seveas this morning to come here | 18:11 |
doorntje | http://paste.ubuntu.com/53872/ <-- it's in dutch i'll you understand it ;) | 18:12 |
doorntje | *i'll hope you* | 18:12 |
* doorntje dyslexie | 18:13 | |
SWAT | doorntje: some people aren't behind their computer 24/7 | 19:12 |
doorntje | i know | 19:12 |
doorntje | this is the first time you answer me in 1.5 month ;) | 19:13 |
doorntje | SWAT: i'll you will talk about the subject 'ban' | 19:14 |
SWAT | doorntje: first off, I don't remember you pm'ing me, I get a lot of messages. Second, what seems to be the issue? Don't you understand why you got banned? | 19:14 |
doorntje | i don't why i'm banned | 19:15 |
doorntje | understand | 19:15 |
doorntje | i asked per pm why you banned me | 19:15 |
doorntje | Cugel telled that Seveas banned me because i said Anti Rude Mods | 19:15 |
ompaul | doorntje, are you aware that respect for others is a requirement, not an option for ubuntu channels | 19:16 |
doorntje | nja, | 19:17 |
SWAT | doorntje: as explained (you can read it in the exempt you posted on pastebin), you were trolling, I think that's the best way to put it. And (above that) you were rude. | 19:17 |
doorntje | trolling? | 19:17 |
doorntje | i said only: Anti Rude Mods | 19:17 |
doorntje | who said you are Rude? | 19:17 |
doorntje | maybe i referred that they had on #ubuntu-nl non rude mods ;) | 19:18 |
doorntje | SWAT: i asked only on you per PM: Kan je mij een stuk arceren wat fout was... | 19:22 |
doorntje | but you didn't answer ;) | 19:22 |
doorntje | Seveas also. | 19:23 |
doorntje | (sorry, for the dutch words) | 19:24 |
SWAT | doorntje: if you read your own pastebin post, it should be quite clear. | 19:25 |
doorntje | and when question for everyone here, is it aloud to ban some people without give an warning? | 19:25 |
doorntje | when=one | 19:26 |
doorntje | SWAT: please read the same logs in another context ;) | 19:28 |
doorntje | and i'll hope, you ask yourself: why didn't we gave a warning... | 19:28 |
SWAT | doorntje: if this is your way of asking for a ban removal, it's not the right way. If you would've asked niceley, perhaps with an excuse and with the promise to behave in the future, it shouldn't have been a problem. You can also read the dutch channel guidelines: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/ubuntunl/richtlijnen | 19:34 |
doorntje | SWAT: that's what i've done per pm ;) | 19:35 |
doorntje | but Seveas didn't answer... | 19:35 |
Myrtti | and was seveas the only person you tried to contact? | 19:37 |
doorntje | also SWAT | 19:38 |
doorntje | and 2 more | 19:38 |
SWAT | doorntje: if you promise to behave in the future, the ban can be removed. Enough time has passed and I hope you learned your lesson. I'll check with the op who banned you, but I think you'll be unbanned by the end of the week. I'll keep you posted | 19:43 |
doorntje | actually i leant enough with the ban... | 19:44 |
doorntje | i've asperger, and by that sort of people when you give one warning they stop | 19:45 |
doorntje | SWAT: thnx | 19:51 |
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