=== PriceChild is now known as Guest79425 === Guest79425 is now known as PriceChild [11:01] hello [11:01] i've an complain an ubuntu channel [11:02] doorntje: what seems to be the trouble? [11:02] doorntje, do you know why you were banned [11:02] nja, they gave me an permban because i said: anti-rude-mods [11:03] it were in #ubuntu-nl-offtopic [11:04] could someone help me? [11:06] w/o the input from the ops, there's not much to do, i'm afraid [11:09] doorntje, to understand more of what is expected of users and ops alike please read these two documents, they may inform your decision [11:09] !guidelines [11:09] The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [11:09] !codeofconduct [11:09] The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ [11:11] i've actually read that [11:44] could someone help me? [11:47] doorntje: as nalioth said the other side of the story is needed [11:50] but they ignore me when i ask somethinh [11:52] doorntje, when did this happen [11:55] 2 months ago they banned me [11:55] doorntje, and you are banned from #ubuntu-nl as well? [11:55] and #ubuntu-nl-offtopic [11:56] i asked Seveas and SWAT to come on this channel [11:56] doorntje, well absent their input nothing can be done. [11:56] tonight i heared they gave me a permban [12:00] ow, it were 1.5 month ago [12:01] August 18 [13:56] bazhang: the ops wouldn't come to this channel... [14:02] hm? [14:02] oh? [14:02] I've seen them both here on several occasions [14:07] don't anger the dutch, you are bound to regret it. [14:11] shell i ask it again? [14:12] doorntje, not knowing precisely what happened, my suggestion would be to leave them alone for a couple of days, then try asking nicely [14:13] owkeej, [14:15] someone is now uploading the logs of August 18 for me ;) [16:31] SWAT: can i talk with you about my ban? [17:48] dead line... [17:53] doorntje: I'm sorry, but the operators do have life outside IRC [17:54] and nobody told me before? [17:54] LjL: shut up. [17:54] you've been on the alps. [17:54] I've been working allllll summer. [17:54] bar Lugradio Live and Assembly08 [17:54] Myrtti: hey, i've walked 5 hours a day and taken a lot of photos of flowers. [17:55] oh shut up. [17:55] I hate you. [17:55] that's only fair [17:55] Myrtti: sometimes you think they doesn't have [17:56] * doorntje were also been on the alps [17:56] it's 1000km from here by car [18:07] here some copy from logs [18:07] [Mon Aug 18 2008] [21:29:55] [EXIT 4] Anti Rude Mods Parkway --> [18:08] Mon Aug 18 2008] [21:35:45] Seveas Parkway â‡-/-> [18:08] and then Seveas banned me [18:10] and we still need him and some other -nl ops here [18:11] SWAT is here already [18:11] i asked Seveas this morning to come here [18:12] http://paste.ubuntu.com/53872/ <-- it's in dutch i'll you understand it ;) [18:12] *i'll hope you* [18:13] * doorntje dyslexie [19:12] doorntje: some people aren't behind their computer 24/7 [19:12] i know [19:13] this is the first time you answer me in 1.5 month ;) [19:14] SWAT: i'll you will talk about the subject 'ban' [19:14] doorntje: first off, I don't remember you pm'ing me, I get a lot of messages. Second, what seems to be the issue? Don't you understand why you got banned? [19:15] i don't why i'm banned [19:15] understand [19:15] i asked per pm why you banned me [19:15] Cugel telled that Seveas banned me because i said Anti Rude Mods [19:16] doorntje, are you aware that respect for others is a requirement, not an option for ubuntu channels [19:17] nja, [19:17] doorntje: as explained (you can read it in the exempt you posted on pastebin), you were trolling, I think that's the best way to put it. And (above that) you were rude. [19:17] trolling? [19:17] i said only: Anti Rude Mods [19:17] who said you are Rude? [19:18] maybe i referred that they had on #ubuntu-nl non rude mods ;) [19:22] SWAT: i asked only on you per PM: Kan je mij een stuk arceren wat fout was... [19:22] but you didn't answer ;) [19:23] Seveas also. [19:24] (sorry, for the dutch words) [19:25] doorntje: if you read your own pastebin post, it should be quite clear. [19:25] and when question for everyone here, is it aloud to ban some people without give an warning? [19:26] when=one [19:28] SWAT: please read the same logs in another context ;) [19:28] and i'll hope, you ask yourself: why didn't we gave a warning... [19:34] doorntje: if this is your way of asking for a ban removal, it's not the right way. If you would've asked niceley, perhaps with an excuse and with the promise to behave in the future, it shouldn't have been a problem. You can also read the dutch channel guidelines: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/ubuntunl/richtlijnen [19:35] SWAT: that's what i've done per pm ;) [19:35] but Seveas didn't answer... [19:37] and was seveas the only person you tried to contact? [19:38] also SWAT [19:38] and 2 more [19:43] doorntje: if you promise to behave in the future, the ban can be removed. Enough time has passed and I hope you learned your lesson. I'll check with the op who banned you, but I think you'll be unbanned by the end of the week. I'll keep you posted [19:44] actually i leant enough with the ban... [19:45] i've asperger, and by that sort of people when you give one warning they stop [19:51] SWAT: thnx