| === dholbert_ is now known as dholbert | ||
| directhex | guys, do all browsers on ubuntu sharing a common XUL version look in a common folder for plugins? e.g. will all of them look in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins? | 11:40 |
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| asac | [reed]: ffox 3.0 in gutsy isnt firefox 3 ... its granparadiso. | 15:52 |
| asac | directhex: if you package things up, use /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins ... if you want to write a custom installer use the dir you suggested | 15:53 |
| directhex | asac, so *all* xul-based browsers on ubuntu will look in /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins? | 15:54 |
| asac | directhex: all xul-1.9-or-later based applications ... yes | 15:54 |
| asac | (not only browsers) | 15:54 |
| directhex | asac, okay, good. and that applies on debian too? i know their xul stack differs a little | 15:55 |
| MechtiIde | asac hello | 15:56 |
| MechtiIde | when can we expect lightning 0.9 for Deb and Ubuntu? | 15:57 |
| asac | directhex: debian does their own thing. we have been first with all this ... the intentionally broke things to make our life harder | 15:58 |
| asac | directhex: but debian doesnt really try to seriously maintain this | 16:00 |
| asac | directhex: they even want to cancel security support. which basically means that hopefully they wont include xulrunner or iceweasel at all - but probably they will do anyway and just dont care that the xulrunner maintainer doesnt care about security | 16:01 |
| directhex | i'm not enormously fussed about the politics, i just want to prepare the best package i can. preferably without the rather bulky debian/links in the current source package | 16:04 |
| asac | directhex: which package? | 16:05 |
| directhex | asac, moonlight, the open-source implementation of microsoft silverlight. marillat has made an initial package without asking anyone on the pkg-mono team if they had anything to offer, i'd like to fix up what he's done & get it into debian, and from there, jaunty. | 16:06 |
| asac | directhex: ok. put it where you want then ... mozilla.plugins will probably work too | 16:08 |
| asac | directhex: what license is moonlight? | 16:11 |
| directhex | http://anonsvn.mono-project.com/viewvc/trunk/moon/LICENSE?revision=112447&view=markup | 16:11 |
| directhex | i.e. mostly lgpl2, some mit/x11, ms-pl | 16:12 |
| asac | its a mess license | 16:13 |
| asac | "no later" + everything that interfaces with other licenses becomes that license | 16:13 |
| asac | also you can buy other rights from novell | 16:13 |
| asac | so either i can make this GPLv3 or later by just changing the code to use GPLv3 bits | 16:14 |
| asac | or its a complete mess :) | 16:15 |
| asac | directhex: is there a spec for this silverlight thing? how did mono figure out how to code this? | 16:17 |
| directhex | applying text on http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-gb/library/bb188743.aspx to lessons learnt from mono, i think. i think they got a basic implementation running within 3 weeks. #mono on gimpnet can better answer history lesson questions | 16:31 |
| directhex | and i think about a year ago MS started providing detailed specs & test suites to novell | 16:32 |
| directhex | from what i hear, it's also been suggested more than once that MS get the spec submitted to ISO/ECMA. but that kind of thing takes time | 16:32 |
| asac | directhex: ok thanks | 17:35 |
| asac | directhex: can you put that plugin in a ppa? | 17:35 |
| asac | directhex: could you please add the Npp-* headers to the binary plugin package control? | 17:37 |
| asac | directhex: look in gnash or other plugins we ship | 17:37 |
| directhex | asac, yes, i can, it'll go into my mono PPA - but i want to clean it up a little first. an inital version is already in debian-multimedia, but needs tweaking | 17:37 |
| asac | directhex: with those Npp-* headers the plugin package will be automatically picked up by the plugin finder wizard of firefox | 17:38 |
| directhex | asac, oh, that's clever. thanks for the tip! | 17:38 |
| asac | directhex: how high is the likelyhood that the silverlight files will actually be playable on linux/mono/moonlight? | 17:39 |
| asac | is that supposed to be 100% compatible? | 17:39 |
| directhex | asac, this likely: http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/wp-content/gallery/00-single/moonlight.png | 17:40 |
| directhex | asac, it's totally a work in progress, but it's heading towards 100% much much faster than, say, gnash | 17:40 |
| asac | directhex: ok. | 17:41 |
| directhex | asac, i have a fair few people using my PPA - though only 2 of the packages right now aren't just simple backports - http://directhex.mfgames.com/hardy.html | 17:44 |
| === nm-rocker is now known as asac | ||
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