[00:04] trashguy, did you find anything? [00:05] no [00:05] hmm... [00:06] i tried changing the video card, but my MOBO didnt like that at all.. something may be wrong with my AGP slot... or the card... but i mean, i get partway with the pci card, which i installed with [00:57] when "apt-get purge" is used and aptitude is identifying "ubuntu-minimal" to be removed as well [00:57] I assume that would be bad to remove [02:57] maw: Almost certainly whatever you are removing that's part of ubunutu-minimal is something you want to keep on your system. [03:34] ScottK: indeed, I was just removing all of the dhcpd and dhcp3-server related stufd [03:34] *stuff [03:35] ubuntu-minimal is just a metapackage, so removing it doesn't actually hurt anything. [03:35] You really ought to be sure you know what you're doing though if you remove stuff that's in minimal. === PrivateVoid_ is now known as PrivateVoid [04:57] <[Solaris]> how do i put soemthing in cron to every 15 or 30 mins? [04:59] [Solaris]: */30 * * * * command [04:59] [Solaris]: change the 30 to 15 for every 15 minutes [04:59] <[Solaris]> do i need to put the file somewhere? [05:00] that would be the cron entry... the crontab -e will let you edit the cron jobs [05:02] <[Solaris]> so it doesn't matter where the file resides? [05:04] not sure what you mean by file? [05:05] <[Solaris]> i have a bash script that i want ran [05:05] <[Solaris]> script == file [05:06] I usually put custom scripts in /usr/local/bin so your cron entry would be: */30 * * * * /usr/local/bin/filename [05:08] <[Solaris]> is 15 min to often for a cron.. [05:09] I have some jobs running every 5 :-) [05:09] it's really a matter of what your script does, how resource intensive, etc [05:09] <[Solaris]> it moves files from one dir to the next [05:10] I wouldn't think you'd have any issue, but I guess it depends on how many files and their sizes get moved, still shouldn't be an issue [05:11] <[Solaris]> cp: cannot create regular file `/usr/local/bin/CTDM': Permission denied [05:11] <[Solaris]> ohh id idn't chmod +e or what ever tothe file [09:18] What happens if you put 2 dhcp servers on one network? does the second stop the first from working, or does the second one just not work? [09:28] most likely you will get very unpredictable effects, either dhcp server a0 or b0 answering leases being given double etc, i am not sure if that's even mentioned in ip-specs [09:28] a or b even [09:30] but in every case i had 2 dhcp servers running my network became unstable and unpredictable, downright to the point of unusability.. [09:33] so the second one would bring down the network. is that what you are saying? [09:47] portablejim: I'm late to this party, but I'd concur with MitosKalandiel, two active DHCP servers on the same segment is not worth the agro [09:50] portablejim: not necessaraly bringing the network down, but you will be tackling major problems when you do run two dhcp servers [09:56] thanks [09:59] yw [10:01] sometimes i just want to cry === MitosKalandiel is now known as [Mitos] [10:14] ivoks: any reason or just in general? [10:40] ropetin: i've spent lots of time (a week) on debugging of one problem [10:40] ropetin: it turns our it's just an online change in one header [10:40] one line [10:40] <[Mitos]> ouch [10:42] and i figured that out this morning, after last night and lots of alcohol [10:42] moral of the story: alcohol can be good sometimes :D === mcasadevall is now known as NCommander [14:06] i was running 8.04 and i did an apt-get upgrade and now my network stopped working. It says it is configured but no traffic goes in or out === Deeps_ is now known as Deeps [16:40] So I have an older box with 3 different ubuntu operating systems on it, and I want to put ubuntuserver on it. All of the thing I want to keep are backed up, now what? [16:41] Also, when installing, it won't let me overwrite all of the partitions, just one out of two. [16:46] Anyone... [16:59] So... nobody? [17:09] are you using the manual option? [17:14] Well, I'm going to try dban and then install it [17:15] I some trouble overwrite partitions with an older version. I deleted the partitions manually, the ran the install and that worked... I cant remember if that was a bug or not. [17:16] or something I was doing wrong [17:16] How did you delete them? [17:17] used a live disk, and ran gparted [17:17] Can you boot into a shell from the live Server cd? [17:18] er, ubuntu server livecd [17:18] I used a desktop cd, but you should be able to do the same thing with fdisk in command line [17:19] make sure you have everything you need off that disk [17:19] Yeah, everything is on a usb. [17:19] thanks. [17:19] fdisk deletes the partitions, then you can use a guided install, and it should write the whole disk [17:20] np [17:20] I am sometimes slow with this stuff, so your milage may vary :) [17:41] fdisk just displays stuff, it's not doing anything. [17:41] Is there a delete-all argument? [17:44] EvilDaemon: you could even use cfdisk [17:45] fdisk /dev/hda (or your hd) [17:45] what about parted? [17:45] parted would do the same... fdisk is pretty old, but straight foward [17:46] There's four different kinds under /dev/ [17:46] Now I guess cfdisk is being suggested over parted. [17:47] http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl8_fdisk.htm [17:47] you have to delete each partition [17:48] Try them in the order cfdisk, fdisk, sfdisk. (Indeed, cfdisk is a beautiful program that has strict requirements on the partition tables it [17:48] accepts, and produces high quality partition tables. Use it if you can. [17:49] I just found that... I have never used cfdisk before, so I didn't know about it [17:49] okay. will one of them tell me what partition I'm on, or do I stab in the dark and hope I don't miss? [17:49] stainer: lol [17:49] cfdisk rocks [17:51] it is rare that I have needed the partition manually... ubuntu takes care of it for you :) I have in the old days with dos, and slackware [17:51] here is a better howto on fdisk http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/fdisk_partitioning.html [17:52] with everything in linux, there are about 45 ways to accomplish it [17:52] fdisk - disk partition table manipulator [17:52] fdformat - Low-level format a floppy disk [17:53] cfdisk [17:53] Curses based disk partition table manipulator for Linux [17:53] EvilDaemon: what do you need to do? [17:54] To delete all my partitions. [17:54] sorry for the flood. [17:54] EvilDaemon: use cfdisk [17:54] I still not understand what the problem is [17:55] EvilDaemon: I assume you are on a livecd? [17:55] Yes, but I only have a command line. [17:55] cfdisk is nice [17:56] EvilDaemon: then either one of the tools listed above will help you do that. chose the one you prefer [17:57] I just took a look at cfdisk, so I'll use that. Now, how do I find out what partition I'm currently on? [17:57] EvilDaemon: if you are running from a live cd you are on cloop [17:57] okay, thanks. [17:58] EvilDaemon: your drive will be certainly named /dev/sda [18:04] okay, so that didn't work [18:04] all of the oses that I originally had on there are still there, after deleting the partitions. [18:04] from a livecd [18:04] one is on sd2 [18:05] the other didn't say. [18:06] If I run sudo rm -rf /, will it solve my problems? [18:09] that would just delete the files, the partitions would still be there [18:10] EvilDaemon: what livecd do you have? [18:11] EvilDaemon: in fact are you root in your llivecd? [18:20] no [18:20] It's ubuntu gusty, 7.10 i386 [18:20] and I did sudo cfdisk [18:24] did you reboot afterwards? [18:28] yes [18:28] it went to grub, and still showed all of the previous oses. [18:28] ubuntu 7.10, and ubuntu 8.10 [18:28] EvilDaemon: so you didn't delete the /boot partition. that's all [18:29] Hi All [18:30] 8.04.1 server. Won't install on my hp netserver. Can't load installer from cd. Media check is good. ?? [18:31] -- hp netserver E800 2xP3 1GHz 2GB ram [18:31] blue-frog: In cfdisk, there were two different options. one had boot on it. I deleted them all. [18:33] EvilDaemon: sudo parted /dev/sda p gives you what? [18:33] EvilDaemon: by the way in cfdisk, you need to write out the changes you made [18:34] otherwise nothing is done [18:34] EvilDaemon: use parted, changes are made right away, no need to reboot [18:42] only with AT&T is a dynamic ip a selling point. Dynamic IP Addresses - Every time you log on to the Internet, your computer is assigned a new, unique IP address, making it more difficult for hackers to find you. [18:44] it says that the directory isn't there. So It's just deleting it off of grub? [19:05] hi here [19:05] anyone knows of any decent documentation/tutorial on apparmor? [19:06] orogor: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/apparmor.html [19:07] orogor: should get you started anyway [19:08] yhea, just stpotted the bottom link to suze doc , o think was looking for that$ [19:25] sommer, is there a repository wth additional profiles for apparmor on ubuntu ? [19:25] also stupid queston what sthe difference between gentoo and gento server if i nstall server type packages on th desktop version ? [19:27] orogor: there's the apparmor-profiles package which contains additional profiles, that may be what you're looking for [19:27] orogor: nope the server and desktop use the same repositories so installing say apache on desktop is the same as installing it on sever [19:27] sommer, there s like 10 profiles in it , whichb isn t much [19:28] orogor: ya, apparmor integration is pretty conservative, due to the chance of messing things up [19:28] i could build profiles by myself , but ... would have been nice if there were some more [19:28] you can always submit any that you create :) [19:29] doesn t works out server doesn t answer [19:30] ? [19:31] i modified the cupsd profile , i was presented with an option to uopdate the repository but had an error when submitting profle , apparently (in don t know which) server wasn t answerng http [19:32] bah, i ll give up for today, i bet iptable forbidding incoming connections will protect me from 90% of stuff anyway [19:58] * [Solaris] wonders if trashguy comes in on the weekends [20:07] D [20:08] is for Dog === EvilDaemon is now known as LaRoza === LaRoza is now known as Jeob45 === Jeob45 is now known as Joeb45 === Joeb45 is now known as EvilDaemon === EvilDaemon is now known as Jeob454 === Jeob454 is now known as Joeb454 === EvilDaemon is now known as Joeb454 [21:50] <[Solaris]> can someone tell me if my external IP address shows up a http page? [22:11] [Solaris], sure [22:11] IP address? [22:11] <[Solaris]> 98.196.35.51 [22:12] [Solaris], yup [22:13] <[Solaris]> good good [22:14] <[Solaris]> now to figure out how to make it so a user can have a http page [22:14] <[Solaris]> 98.196.35.51/ is the address right? [22:14] <[Solaris]> typically [22:15] ~user [22:15] <[Solaris]> and in the user dir they need to add? [22:17] usually public_html [22:17] But that varies depending on the apache configuration [22:17] <[Solaris]> erm whats defualt? [22:18] No idea [22:18] <[Solaris]> know where i can look? [22:19] <[Solaris]> i thought normally you have to mkdir some directory for all the html stuff [23:44] hello can some help with this. At my school we have public printer on ip address 192.168.***.*** and my dorm pc is on ip address 172.16.***.***. I cant touch the settings in the router so i cant set up routing table to allow me to print to this printer but does any one have a different idea of how i can print to this printer. Thank You