[00:00] <rocka4him> Hey how do I access my USB drive from Xubuntu ?
[00:03] <favro> it should be in places
[00:04] <rocka4him> yeah I did not see it opened on the desktop
[00:04] <rocka4him> newbie mistake lol...
[00:04] <favro> hehe
[01:40] <DarkTan> is there any way to take a xubuntu install and make it in to a live disk? or install it on  diffrent har drive exactly as it is?
[01:47] <ron_o> DarkTan, yes..
[01:48] <ron_o> you can use partimage to make an exact copy.
[01:48] <ron_o> and there are tools out there to make any OS into your own live distro.
[01:49] <ron_o> btw, partimage can be found on knoppix.
[01:50] <ron_o> that and a billion other apps. :)
[01:57] <DarkTan> ok thanks
[01:58] <ron_o> and if your HD is a slave drive "dd" might work too, but I've never used it before.
[01:59] <DarkTan> master on a laptop
[01:59] <DarkTan> old laptop, lots of issues
[02:06] <ron_o> if that's the case them partimage would work great because it's done from a liveCD, and the HD is unmounted. Look into that first.
[02:08] <ron_o> wow, just upgraded to 8.04... sweet. Simply put, superb. No issues at all (except I did a clean install)
[02:10] <DarkTan> no, have lots of issues. took over a week to get it to work, then bios dumped the drive casue it's too big
[02:10] <DarkTan> i'll try parmitage
[02:10] <ron_o> I really screwed up. I forgot to kill my screensaver. :/ My upgrade crashed in a sense.
[02:48] <squarepusher101> greetings
[02:49] <squarepusher101> Need help. Just got a legacy computer. It's a IBM thinkpad 380XD. It's cpu runs @ 233Mhz and it has 64Mb ram. Can Xubuntu be installed? And if so, will it run ok?
[02:52] <ron_o> there's some information on the xubuntu page about that..
[02:52] <ron_o> IMHO, it won't cut it.
[02:53] <ron_o> I mean, not realistically for anything besides a firewall.
[02:53] <ron_o> perhaps try fluxubuntu... or maybe even Puppy Linux.
[02:54] <squarepusher101> With puppy would I be abble to install extra software?
[02:55] <ron_o> right now I've got around 215MB RAM and 1Ghz and it's about as low as I'd like to go (but have gone lower)
[02:55] <ron_o> Puppy has their own software, .pups
[02:55] <ron_o> you can have a persistent drive with it.
[02:55] <ron_o> but for 80MB, it flies for what you get.
[02:56] <ron_o> that's really my problem with Puppy. I love it but not having access to the .deb apps just kills it for me.
[02:56] <ron_o> and puppy uses the 2.4 kernel so it's more likely to run on that machine.
[02:57] <squarepusher101> I see, that's a pitty. Would love to be able to use some network and security test apps
[02:58] <ron_o> check it out, there is a lot of software with it just not like with Debian.
[02:58] <ron_o> and you could create your own .pup's
[02:58] <ron_o> or look into fluxubuntu. That might cut it for you.
[04:33] <zurn>  prefered ubuntu for p2.8m dell laptop (kubuntu / xubuntu / ubuntu) ?
[04:47] <eca> ﻿i removed gdm, installed fluxbox, and i get error- /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/x-window-manager corrupt: invalid update mode. fluxbox works fine, menu had to be made but that wasnt hard. this error is reoccurring, any suggestions?
[04:54] <eca> i removed gdm, installed fluxbox, and i get error- /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/x-window-manager corrupt: invalid update mode. fluxbox works fine, menu had to be made but that wasnt hard. this error is reoccurring, any suggestions?
[04:54] <eca> opps sry for double
[04:57] <cody-somerville> Try asking in #fluxbuntu?
[05:53] <nikolam> hi
[05:54] <nikolam> I tried to download beta xubuntu with jigdo-lite
[05:54] <nikolam> I got this message(and xubuntu-8.10-beta-alternate-amd64.iso.tmp):  http://paste.ubuntu.com/53659/
[05:55] <nikolam> What shoul I do to get proper *.iso and move on?
[06:01] <cody-somerville> nikolam, you want to download the torrent file, not the iso
[06:08] <nikolam> I was thinking of finaly trying to use jigdo to download, since every time I was downloading New ISO, I was doing it fith http/wget
[06:08] <nikolam> I see now that download with jigdo-lite simply does not work..
[06:09] <nikolam> If I wanted to use torrent file, I ould use transmission for that
[06:10] <cody-somerville> http://www.electrictoolbox.com/how-to-use-jigdo-lite/
[06:14] <nikolam> 10x a lot cody-somerville , i will see to read it, 10x again
[06:21] <nikolam> cody-somerville, : I get message: Found 0 of the 6 files required by the template...
[07:13] <nikolam> *.iso file i Re-checked with Bit torrent after download, does not pass MD5SUM Check!
[07:13] <nikolam> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/8.10/beta/
[07:14] <nikolam> I is xubuntu-8.10-beta-alternate-amd64.iso
[10:10] <vinnl> Hi
[10:11] <vinnl> I've connected a USB device, but it won't automount - what could be the problem?
[10:11] <vinnl> It is detected when I type lsusb
[10:15] <TheSheep> vinnl: is is a mass storage device?
[10:15] <vinnl> TheSheep, an MP3-player, so yeah, I guess so
[10:15] <vinnl> (With flash drive)
[10:16] <TheSheep> some mp3 players use their own protocol, ipods for example
[10:16] <TheSheep> and they cannot be seen as simple usb disks
[10:16] <vinnl> It's a Sansa e260
[10:16] <TheSheep> I have no idea what this is :)
[10:16] <vinnl> (My iPod Nano works fine btw)
[10:16] <vinnl> From Sandisk ;)
[10:19] <vinnl> Hmm, fdisk -l won't list it either
[10:22] <vinnl> \o/
[10:22] <vinnl> Got it :)
[10:26] <TheSheep> what was it?
[10:27] <vinnl> I had to change the USB mode in the device's settings
[10:27] <TheSheep> hah
[10:28] <vinnl> Only now the filesystem's damaged so everything's read-only and I can't copy stuff becaue of I/O-errors... *sigh*
[13:18] <reqqit> Hey people - I did a clean install of ubuntu on my laptop, a 512mb thinkpad I still like, worked fine, but I wanted to try Xubuntu
[13:19] <reqqit> So I did a clean Xubuntu install. On a clean boot, the only difference was 20mb mem free in Xubuntu...
[13:19] <reqqit> I realise the 'light' part also comes from the packaged apps, but really that is something that I can't change :/ I used gedit and I use firefox etc.
[13:20] <reqqit> Are there plans for doing more selective service loading and lazy loading of more things? I have an aspireONE which has 512, it boots in seconds and uses little ram...  is this where xubuntu is heading? or is it more for 'older' machines, not just quick and light?
[13:21] <charlie-tca> I run it on a PII 400 MHz, with 256MB ram.
[13:22] <reqqit> charlie-tca - right, which is great, however if the full ubuntu would clean boot into the same machine with just 20mb more ram... albeit default to use heavier apps
[13:22] <charlie-tca> I can't install Ubuntu, it won't install in 256MB ram
[13:22] <reqqit> Now, I like thunar, from using on the ONE, and nautilus has some narky bugs that really annoy me, but still, the boot cost is still almost the same from my experience...
[13:23] <reqqit> charlie-tca, that is weird... if the boot cost is the same :/\
[13:23] <charlie-tca> Also, it doesn't run on a 400MHz cpu
[13:28] <TheSheep> use alternate cd to install on low-ram machines
[13:30] <charlie-tca> TheSheep: The live CD installs fine in Intrepid. But I still can't run Ubuntu on that
[13:31] <charlie-tca> That's why I use Xubuntu instead
[14:40] <bluej> is there an equivalent to "%f" to pass a file to open in terminal?
[14:40] <bluej> I want to use it in a script to open a text editor
[15:20] <krylyx> i'm new on linux world. i'm liking it a lot. but i work with webdesign and i dont know much softwares. can someone recommend a good software for creating layouts?
[15:21] <vinnl> krylyx, you mean like Photoshop or like Dreamweaver or like...?
[15:22] <krylyx> something like Fireworks, I guess... I know Gimp is equivalent (or not that much) for Photoshop.
[15:22] <vinnl> Gimp is as good as Photoshop for webdesign... Or at least good enough
[15:23] <krylyx> it's very different from what i usually work, but i can try using it more to create stuff :)
[15:23] <vinnl> Hmm... "Adobe Fireworks, known as FW for short, is a bitmap and vector graphics editor"
[15:23] <vinnl> For vector graphics you'd use Inkscape I guess, and Gimp for bitmap
[15:23] <vinnl> krylyx, true, the Gimp takes a lot of getting used to
[15:23] <krylyx> and also, there isn't a flash creator as flash cs3, is it?
[15:23] <krylyx> inkscape?
[15:23] <vinnl> Nope
[15:24] <vinnl> krylyx, Inkscape is a vector graphics editor
[15:24] <krylyx> yep
[15:24] <vinnl> http://www.inkscape.org/
[15:24] <krylyx> ok, i'll download it :)
[15:24] <krylyx> and for making flash, is there an alternative?
[15:24] <vinnl> krylyx, do you know how to install it?
[15:24] <vinnl> krylyx, sorry, no :(
[15:24] <krylyx> or i do need a virtual box? :P
[15:24] <vinnl> You can do that, yes :)
[15:26] <krylyx> but now you mentioned, is there any equivalent to dreamweaver?
[15:26] <krylyx> you've*
[15:27] <vinnl> Nvu is good
[15:27] <krylyx> hum... i usually work with php/javascript/mysql
[15:27] <krylyx> maybe something only with autocomplete and highlight is enough
[15:28] <krylyx> any options though?
[15:29] <vinnl> I use Bluefish for PHP and stuff
[15:29] <vinnl> If you want something really full-features, use Eclipse, but that might be a bit heavy if your computer is not that new
[15:30] <krylyx> it's a laptop. intel core 2 duo 1.5ghz and 2gb ram.
[15:30] <vinnl> Oh that should be able to handle it just fine :)
[15:31] <krylyx> sometimes i don't feel like using something full-featured, i won't use all features anyway... bluefish higlight and autocomplete? :P
[15:32] <vinnl> It does highlight, I'm not sure whether it did autocomplete in the current stable version
[15:32] <vinnl> But there are plenty of good editors, so you'll be able to find one you like ;-)
[15:32] <krylyx> i hope so :)
[15:32] <krylyx> i'll try both you mentioned
[15:32] <krylyx> i think one of them will fit
[15:32] <vinnl> And Applications->System->Add/Remove... is great for finding them ;-)
[15:33] <krylyx> yep, synaptics takes care :)
[15:33] <vinnl> :)
[15:34] <krylyx> but there are so many editors that i prefer to ask people what they use, so I can filter some of them.
[15:34] <vinnl> Hehe, I love Bluefish in that case :)
[15:34] <krylyx> I'll try it ;)
[15:34] <krylyx> and can I ask you a more few questions?
[15:34] <krylyx> i don't want to disturb you also
[15:35] <vinnl> Sure, no problem :)
[15:36] <krylyx> It's because I'm making a list of softwares to download and teste. I've downloaded so many softwares that I think my HD is full of useless dependencies libs.
[15:36] <krylyx> test*
[15:37] <vinnl> Well, if you removed the applications you no longer use and you also want to remove packages it depended on, you can use the command "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[15:39] <krylyx> wow, nice. it removed 23mb :D
[15:40] <vinnl> Wow :P
[15:40] <krylyx> ah! one more thing... i'm learning C and C++, i really don't know any software to program on it.
[15:40] <krylyx> do you know any?
[15:41] <vinnl> Off the top of my head Anjuta comes to mind, but I can't do C or C++ so I wouldn't really know
[15:41] <krylyx> Hmm, nice, I'll take note of it.
[15:42] <krylyx> I guess it's all for now, thank you so much for the help :)
[15:42] <vinnl> You're welcome, good luck :)
[16:05] <nparafe> i chane the resolution with sudo displayconfig-gtk to 1024x768. But when i restart xfce the resolution is 800x600. Can anybody help me to get a walktrough ?
[16:05] <vinnl> !resolution
[16:05] <vinnl> Maybe that helps?
[17:02] <reyrey> has anybody had any issues using an external monitor on xubuntu? mine will not recognzie it?
[17:05] <vinnl> !monitor
[17:05] <vinnl> Hmm...
[17:05] <vinnl> !screen
[17:05] <vinnl> *sigh*
[17:07] <krylyx> my printscreen keyboard button never worked with xubuntu... is there any way for me to review this configuration somewhere?
[17:07] <vinnl> krylyx, you can set a screenshot command to the keyboard shortcut
[17:08] <krylyx> that would be nice, whats the screenshot command? screenshot? :P
[17:08] <vinnl> I'm trying to find it :P
[17:08] <charlie-tca> You could also add the snapshot plugin to the panel
[17:08] <vinnl> Ah, good idea :)
[17:09] <vinnl> Xubuntu doesn't have a screenshot application installed by default except for the plugin
[17:09] <vinnl> You can install gnome-utils for the "gnome-screenshot" command
[17:09] <krylyx> huum
[17:09] <reyrey> ??? i read everywhere that its supposed to be plug and automatically recognized and then the external monitor works.. i don't see any programs on xubuntu that gives you that ability to choose internal monitor or external monitor?
[17:09] <krylyx> got it, i've followed charlie-tca tip, thank you! :)
[17:09] <vinnl> reyrey, I believe "displayconfig-gtk" could do it, but I never did it, so no guarantees
[17:09] <charlie-tca> np :)
[17:10]  * charlie-tca can't believe I got it right
[17:10] <reyrey> vinni i will give it a try thanks i appreciate the suggestion
[17:11] <vinnl> yw
[17:14] <Rhorse> krylyx, screenshot is in the imagemagick suite use import command
[18:57] <krylyx> vinnl, i'm using bluefish but it isn't highlighting. where should i turn it on?
[18:58] <vinnl> Ah, that's right, I remember now: Bluefish highlighting was a tad imperfect, try pressing F5
[18:58] <krylyx> and i discovered that the php plugin for eclipse just work on newer versions of eclipse, and xubuntu doesnt has support to it.
[18:58] <krylyx> hmm i'll try
[18:58] <vinnl> Perhaps you'll need to select the Document Type in Document->Document Type but I think it should autodetect
[18:58] <vinnl> Oh that's odd, I recall having used it ~2 years ago
[18:59] <krylyx> hmm that was it. i needed to select the document type
[18:59] <krylyx> well, thats ok now
[19:00] <krylyx> but thats really odd, i tried the eclipse official site
[19:00] <krylyx> and there is saying something similar
[19:01] <vinnl> krylyx, which version of Xubuntu are you using?
[19:01] <vinnl> Ah wait
[19:01] <vinnl> I see
[19:02] <vinnl> Apparently the PHPEclipse 1.2.x series needs a higher version, the 1.1.x series should work fine
[19:02] <vinnl> krylyx, see http://www.phpeclipse.de/wiki/Installation
[19:04] <krylyx> huuum
[19:28] <Grey_Loki> Is there a way (using Compiz+Emerald+XFCE) to reduce the size of the toolbars and 'system' fonts within OpenOffice applications? Currently I have everything else looking nice, but the fonts for 'File, Edit', etc are huge and ugly, as are the ones for font size and format selection.
[19:29] <vinnl> Grey_Loki, you'll have to set that in OO.o's preferences
[19:29]  * Grey_Loki nods - had already set system fonts to 10 instead of 12
[19:29]  * Grey_Loki carries on looking
[19:32] <vinnl> Hmm, I can't find where to set it in OO.o :(
[19:33] <Grey_Loki> Reducing the icon size for some reason seemed to help
[19:33] <Grey_Loki> I'm currently looking for a theme to get rid of that horrible grey
[19:34] <vinnl> Ah, you had to reduce the scale value...
[19:34] <vinnl> Grey_Loki, that's easy :)
[19:35] <Grey_Loki> I could do it myself, but my eye for graphic design is...well, let's just say it isn't exactly 20/20
[19:35] <vinnl> Grey_Loki, just install openoffice.org-gtk
[19:35] <vinnl> Then it'll adapt to your GTK theme
[19:35] <Grey_Loki> Oh, sweet! :D
[19:35]  * Grey_Loki apt-gets
[19:35] <vinnl> :)
[19:36] <floating> what should i do when system jams ? harddrive just keeps noise and me trying to press ctrl alt f1, ctrl alt del, ctrl alt backspace ... none work.. i just have to reset the whole system.. now when im back, where can i look to understand this jam ?
[19:36] <vinnl> I believe the command "dmesg" might provide some hitns
[19:36] <floating> cant see there anything
[19:36] <floating> related
[19:37] <floating> but im just maybe not good enough to see
[19:37] <Grey_Loki> vinnl, worked beautifully - thanks for that, and the scaling tip :)
[19:37] <vinnl> I wouldn't know either :(
[19:37] <floating> anyway, the jam comes always when there is lot of system load
[19:37] <vinnl> You're welcome :)
[19:37] <floating> so it feels like i just used up too much memory
[19:38] <floating> but i thought i could play able to avoid such total freezes in linux nowadays
[19:38] <vinnl> It should not happen indeed
[19:38] <vinnl> You might want to file a bugreport
[19:38] <vinnl> !bugs
[19:38] <floating> problem is i have no idea what this is about
[19:39] <vinnl> Perhaps a triagers knows how to further diagnose the problem :)
[19:39] <floating> the system freeze may be a max slow down
[19:40] <floating> like this time i was able to move mouse, and the mouse would move after a minute or two on the screen
[19:40] <floating> but if i pressed some of those ctrl alt combo, they didnt respond after minute or two
[20:16] <l337ingDisorder> hey folks, I'm trying to modify the xubuntu install .ISO files so that when I choose to install it to disk it installs with some custom options (specifically, instead of loading gnome, it would just load firefox as a kiosk, and password-protect the shut-down/log-out/etc functions)
[20:17] <l337ingDisorder> can anyone point me in the right direction to learn how to create a modified xubuntu install disc?
[20:17] <vinnl> l337ingDisorder, I believe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remastersys could help
[20:18] <l337ingDisorder> vinnl: Awesome! Thanks - that looks like exactly what I'm looking for!
[20:19]  * l337ingDisorder gives vinnl a +5 Sword of Wireless Reception as thanks
[20:34] <Xacarith> I have a little problem....  I can find no volume controls in the xfce desktop.
[20:34] <vinnl> Xacarith, try xfce4-mixer
[20:45] <Xacarith> vinnl I seem to have it installed but I can't find the dang thing
[20:45] <vinnl> Xacarith, you mean it's not in the menu?
[20:45] <vinnl> Or that the file does not exist?
[20:46] <Xacarith> Under settings sound All I get is what device to use and what Useful Controls which seems to be for turning off and on the functions of the card, like line in, mic and such
[20:47] <Xacarith> That's what mixer settings brings up
[20:47] <vinnl> Xacarith, try adding the Volume Control plugin to your panel
[20:47] <vinnl> You can then click the speaker icon to launch the volume controls
[20:47] <vinnl> Or control it directly from your panel
[20:50] <Xacarith> Right lick on pannel, add new item.  Select volume control.  Press add.....  There are no new items added though...
[20:50] <TheSheep> Xacarith: drag and drop it, it's a bug
[20:50] <vinnl> Maybe it ended up a bit to the right from where you clicked
[20:50] <vinnl> Oh OK
[20:51] <Xacarith> ooo  I didn't know you could drag and drop like that
[20:51] <vinnl> Me neither, nice trick TheSheep
[20:51] <TheSheep> it's ncie when you want to addm ore items
[20:51] <vinnl> Now if only I could drag launchers from the menu or desktop :P
[20:52] <TheSheep> vinnl: you can, to the application list of a launcher
[20:52] <vinnl> TheSheep, that's not from the menu or desktop ;-)
[20:52] <TheSheep> vinnl: from desktop
[20:52] <TheSheep> vinnl: or from other directories
[20:53] <TheSheep> vinnl: for example from /usr/share/applications
[20:53] <vinnl> TheSheep, I just created a launcher on my desktop but I can't drop it on my panel
[20:53] <vinnl> Yeah I know that
[20:53] <vinnl> That's a nice trick too :)
[20:53] <vinnl> But I'd love to be able to drop something from my desktop (not viewed within Thunar, but really the desktop) onto the panel, and even better would be from the menu
[20:53] <TheSheep> vinnl: right click on a launcher on your panel, select properties, drag items from desktop on the list in the properties
[20:54] <vinnl> TheSheep, ah, yeah, but I'd like to have it create a new launcher
[20:54] <vinnl> If I first have to add the launcher to the panel through the dialog I might as well create it manually
[20:54] <vinnl> Doesn't really make any difference in effort
[20:54] <Xacarith> Hmm..  Now...  How do I adjust record volumes...  But at least now I have some control
[20:54] <TheSheep> vinnl: but it's already taken -- dragging a file over a launcher makes it open that file in that app
[20:55] <vinnl> Oh, didn't know that, that's nice
[20:55] <vinnl> Xacarith, click the speaker icon
[20:55] <vinnl> But I can't, say, create a launcher for Firefox on my desktop and drag it to an empty spot on the panel to create a copy there
[20:56] <vinnl> Or drag the Firefox menu item to my desktop or panel to do the same
[20:56] <Xacarith> I've lost all mic input to my one program
[20:58] <Xacarith> I can turn it up so I can hear it but that doesn't change it's record volume
[21:00] <Xacarith> It's annoying that I have to change over to gnome to up the record volume on the mic so people can here me over the net
[21:01] <vinnl> I'd love to help, but I don't have a microphone myself, unfortunately :(
[21:01] <Xacarith> You helped some actually
[21:01] <vinnl> If it helps, there's a new mixer in the next version in Xfce that will ship with Xubuntu 9.04 ;-)
[21:02] <Xacarith> "What happened to 8.10?
[21:03] <TheSheep> Xacarith: nothing, it's schedulet for 30th this month
[21:03] <TheSheep> scheduled
[21:04] <vinnl> But Xfce 4.6 won't be ready in time for that :)
[21:10] <bodeli> Hi, does anyone know which channel I should go to to find out about turning off stack protection?
[21:10] <Xacarith> I love this one.  Under multimedia, sound recorder.  Error msg is 'Your audio capture settings are invalid.  Please correct them in Multimedia settings.'
[21:11] <vinnl> !stack
[21:11] <bodeli> Vinnl: Heh, nice try. :)
[21:11] <vinnl> ;-)
[21:12] <bodeli> I've Googled the heck out of this problem, and tried everything I could find, but no go.
[21:12] <bodeli> I'm afraid I might have to use some older version of Linux to learn about buffer overflows and such.
[21:17] <Xacarith> Thanks again Vinnl  Take care all
[21:17] <ooglebutte> my desktop icons are only visible when the mouse is over - how do I sort that out?
[21:17] <ooglebutte> *over them even
[21:55] <Grey_Loki> OK, this is something that's always bugged me. In distros that don't automount drives, how can you tell which /dev/* are actually plugged in/able to be mounted, and which ones aren't?
[21:55] <vinnl> I struggled with this this morning, but you can just browse to /dev in your filebrowser ;-)
[21:56] <Grey_Loki> What if i'm connected via ssh, or just want to use a terminal?
[21:56] <vinnl> cd /dev, then "ls | more"
[21:57] <zoredache> I got one now
[21:57] <zoredache> watch dmesg to see what devices have been added/removed
[21:57] <zoredache> also look in /dev/disk/by-*
[22:01] <steven> hello all
[22:02] <vinnl> Hey steven
[22:02] <steven> quick question
[22:02] <steven> i've been on the forums
[22:03] <steven> but i want to get a MS sidewinder joystick working in xubuntu
[22:03] <steven> and i would like it to kind of mimic a mouse
[22:03] <steven> movement is like a mouse, map keys to mouse keys and such
[22:04] <steven> any ide-ers?
[22:11] <favro> once it is recognised in the system you would map it in xorg.conf
[22:17] <steven> it would?
[22:17] <steven> how can i see if it's recognized
[22:17] <ooglebutte> how is it plugged in?
[22:18] <steven> usb
[22:18] <steven> lsusb?
[22:18] <ooglebutte> try   lsusb   in a terminal
[22:18] <steven> k
[22:19] <steven> MS corp sidewinder joystick is listed
[22:20] <ooglebutte> now see if it is listed in /dev - wouldn't know what to look for
[22:20] <steven> k
[22:20] <steven> it's in /dev/input/js0
[22:20] <steven> i want it to mimic a mouse
[22:20] <steven> so i don't need as mouse
[22:20] <steven> *a
[22:21] <steven> so yeah it's listed
[22:23] <favro> I have a backed up xorg.conf that gives a few more options for the mouse - I'll paste it
[22:23] <favro> !paste
[22:25] <steven> okay
[22:25] <favro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/54008/ - change the device
[22:25] <favro> and man xorg about the mapping
[22:25] <steven> will that xorg.conf have the joystick emulate the mouse
[22:25] <steven> ?
[22:26] <steven> where it says option protocol
[22:26] <steven> explorerps/2
[22:26] <steven> mine is usb
[22:26] <steven> driver is joystick?
[22:26] <favro> you'll have to map it and change the device to /dev/input/js0
[22:27] <steven> okay
[22:27] <steven> how to map?
[22:27] <steven> but everything else leave?
[22:27] <steven> can i have a mouse connected at the same time?
[22:28] <favro> I haven't don'tanything like this - google might help - I was giving a start for you
[22:28] <favro> *done
[22:28] <steven> oh okay
[22:28] <steven> thanks favro
[22:29] <favro> I hope you sort it out :)
[22:30] <favro> I would cahnge the device in the mouse section and restart X as a wild shot
[22:30] <favro> but only 'cause I can edit files at the command line to get it working if it fails
[22:30] <steven> i can try
[22:30] <steven> yeah me too
[22:31] <steven> well thanks for the help
[22:31] <favro> np
[22:38] <DCPom> hey, how do you remove files from the trash?
[22:39] <zoredache> drag them out?
[22:39] <vinnl> DCPom, you mean permant delete or restore?
[22:39] <vinnl> (Both in the context and Edit menu)
[22:39] <DCPom> when i drag them out nothing happens
[22:39] <ooglebutte> I right click the trash icon and select "empty trash"
[22:39] <DCPom> no i mean
[22:39] <DCPom> remove to desktop
[22:39] <DCPom> like
[22:39] <DCPom> from trash to the desktop?
[22:40] <vinnl> DCPom, right-click on in the Edit menu, select "Restore"
[22:40] <DCPom> ahh, thank you
[22:40] <vinnl> Copy-paste should also work
[22:53] <zerothi1> why does  kill -kill `pgrep firefox` work from the command line but not as a command in a launcher?
[22:53] <zerothi1> why does  kill -kill `pgrep firefox` work from the command line but not as a command in a launcher?
[22:53] <zerothi1> oops, sorry
[22:54] <TheSheep> zerothi1: hint: killall
[22:55] <DCPom> what's the command to remove a directory that isn't empty?
[22:56] <TheSheep> rm -r
[22:56] <TheSheep> use with care
[22:57] <DCPom> thanks
[22:57] <TheSheep> and *never* use it with * and . at the same time
[22:57] <TheSheep> because .. and . also match
[22:57] <zerothi1> killall doesn't  help, it doesn't work in a launcher either
[22:57] <DCPom> lol
[22:58] <TheSheep> DCPom: it's really not funny
[22:58] <DCPom> i think it is
[22:58] <TheSheep> DCPom: not if you lear it the hard way
[22:58] <TheSheep> learn
[22:58] <DCPom> indeed
[22:58] <ooglebutte> try killall -v firefox  then  killall -v firefox-bin
[23:27] <bassboi> IM ON CRACK
[23:27] <bassboi> BZZZ
[23:28] <ooglebutte> you said that yesterday...
[23:28] <bassboi> i did?
[23:28] <ooglebutte> yep
[23:28] <bassboi> oh damn
[23:28]  * bassboi cries
[23:33] <eike> hi, i'm trying to get my atom330 working with my tv. it's a 945 chipset with integrated graphics. on my tv i only get a 640x480 resolution. how do i get 1024x768?
[23:36] <ooglebutte> !dualhead
[23:36] <ooglebutte> !twinview
[23:36] <eike> i don't want dualhead
[23:36] <eike> the tv should be the only display
[23:40] <eike> the display-section in the settingsmanager just show 'Default'