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ScottKapachelogger: We should.  It's a kmail depends and it's on the CD.00:06
apacheloggerthen I think this bug indicates a problem with the defaults00:06
ScottK-laptopapachelogger: For the pykdeuic4 bug fix, pykdeuic4 was always a symlink to pykdeuic4.py and so I just moved the symlink.00:08
ScottK-laptopIt would have been more complete probably to move pykdeuic4.py too.00:08
apacheloggerwell, as said the whole report is pretty much theoretically anyway since -dev depends on the python-kde4 package anyway00:09
apacheloggerI am going to try get that sorted once and for all00:09
ScottK-laptopGreat.00:10
* ScottK-laptop goes out to drive kids some more.00:10
=== jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna
ScottKapachelogger: Let me know when you figure out how to paste a file via sftp in Dolphin.01:40
apacheloggerScottK: http://aplg.kollide.net/screencasts/paste.ogg01:41
* ScottK moves to the machine with sound.01:41
ScottK-laptopapachelogger: I'm media impaired.  What app do I play that with?01:42
apacheloggerScottK-laptop: dragonplayer01:43
ScottK-laptopThanks.01:43
ScottK-laptopSo I have to have a 'place' predefined?01:44
ScottK-laptopapachelogger: ?01:45
apacheloggerwell, it makes things easier01:45
apacheloggeryou could also use splitview and dragndrop01:45
apacheloggeror you just copy then change the url manually and paste01:45
ScottK-laptopOK.  I guess I have to get over to my aversion to Dolphin.01:45
ScottK-laptopAt least it has tabs now.01:45
ScottK-laptopThanks.01:45
apachelogger:)01:45
ScottK-laptopapachelogger: Works.  Thanks.01:47
ScottK-laptopOff to clean the kitchen.01:48
ScottK-laptopSo when I saw Dolphin split screen it reminded me of Krusader.  That works too.02:02
ScottK-laptopDag nabit, I liked having Konqueror do everything.02:03
ScottK-laptopapachelogger: I'll sponsor the kdeartwork one.  I've having that bug, so I can test it.02:18
ScottK-laptopI've/I'm02:18
JontheEchidnaAwesomeness! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFjfk2AAn6s04:02
JontheEchidnaI think I'll get some sleep04:05
ScottK-laptopI don't see where they demonstrate ark opening a tar.gz ....04:08
NCommanderScottK, can you ack a backport?05:14
rgreeninghey05:17
ScottKNCommander: What?05:52
DreadKnightheya06:03
DreadKnighti would like to try to update 8.04 to intrepid beta (64 bits) again06:03
DreadKnightlast time X wouldn't start i think06:04
DreadKnightIntel GMA 95006:04
DreadKnightanything i could have done from the command line to get it running?06:04
NCommanderScottK, xen 3.306:29
=== ubuntu is now known as DreadKnight
=== jords__ is now known as jords
ryanakcaRiddell: Have you received any screenshots of KDE4/Intrepid?  If not, how should we get them... ask the Planet?15:06
apacheloggerjtechidna: can you still reproduce bug 27254115:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 272541 in kdebase "The whole desktop restarts if the desktop folder view widget is closed" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27254115:16
jtechidnaapachelogger: nope :-)15:17
apacheloggerme neither15:17
apacheloggerjtechidna: do you have a beta iso at hand?15:23
jtechidnanope, wouldn't boot for me anyway, kernel bug15:23
ryanakcaapachelogger: I have an amd64 one... alternate though15:24
apacheloggerjtechidna: kernel bug?15:25
jtechidnajust a second15:25
apacheloggerryanakca: live makes more sense15:25
apacheloggerneed to reproduce a bug in french kdepim15:25
* apachelogger grabs daily image15:25
ryanakcaOh, bummer. Well, this is a fresh install... would you like me to change the language to french and test for you?15:26
jtechidnabug 26729515:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 267295 in linux "The 2.6.27-2.3 kernel fails to boot" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26729515:26
ryanakcaCan anybody reproduce bug 278611 ?15:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 278611 in kdebase-workspace "Impossible to change language in System Settings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27861115:27
apacheloggerbug 27857215:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 278572 in kdepim "[intrepid] Kontact (kmail) not displaying properly dates in local format" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27857215:27
apacheloggerit did work properly when I changed the date setting15:27
apachelogger278611 sounds like fun15:28
Arbyh15:29
ryanakcaHmmm... can't change the status of the bug to "Needs information" because I'm not the maintainer :/15:32
ryanakcadoh, nevermind15:32
Salze[16:27] <ryanakca> Can anybody reproduce bug 278611 ? <- no.15:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 278611 in kdebase-workspace "Impossible to change language in System Settings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27861115:35
ryanakcaapachelogger: I can't reproduce it, but it might be because (s)he has date/time set up differently...15:36
apacheloggerwell, if it doesn't appear in a live environment with french locales we can just close it15:36
apacheloggerI for one think that the user messed up his settings by manually fiddling15:37
apacheloggerjtechidna: bug 278408 is weird15:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 278408 in kdenetwork "KPPP blank/unresponsive "Create New Account" dialog" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27840815:41
apacheloggerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/54271/ the related source15:41
jtechidnaapachelogger: brb15:42
jtechidnarebooting15:42
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: yeah, saw that one15:48
JontheEchidnaweird15:48
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: bug 268434 needs to go upstream15:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 268434 in kdebase-workspace "Screen Resolution is not being restored after relogin" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26843415:56
apacheloggerthey would know better if it caused by our xrandr or a bug in krandr15:56
ryanakcaWhat files / source packages would I look in to fix bug 278620 ? I've tried grepping ``add language'' in the kde-workspace sources without any luck...15:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 278620 in kdebase-workspace "Add language menu in System Settings contains duplicates" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27862015:56
apachelogger-runtime15:57
ryanakcas/kde-workspace/kdebase-workspace/g15:57
ryanakcaapachelogger: thanks15:57
apacheloggeroh15:59
apacheloggereh15:59
apacheloggernice15:59
apacheloggerRiddell: when booting the live CD with francais it doesn't look very french16:00
apacheloggerthe country in systemsettings is also not set16:00
apacheloggernor is the language16:00
apachelogger\o/16:00
smarterapachelogger: i18n is still b0rken thanks to rosetta, so it doesn't really make a difference :P16:03
apacheloggerit does16:03
apacheloggercompletely unrelated to rosetta16:03
smarterthe fact that i18n is broke?16:04
apacheloggerthe fact that the live cd wouldn't use an l10n at all16:05
smarterwell, no l10n seems better than half-translated apps imho :P16:09
JontheEchidna\o/16:12
JontheEchidnaediting my blog put it back on top of the planet16:12
JontheEchidnavorian: oh, and I stoled your cube pic D:16:12
JontheEchidnabut couldn't you have put a wallpaper in the background instead of a pure blue background? ;P16:13
apacheloggerryanakca: you did a normal english installation?16:16
apacheloggersmarter: using wrong formats is not16:17
ryanakcaapachelogger: Yes, well, Canadian English... not that KDE recognized it as such, but it's what I selected while installing.16:17
* apachelogger doesn't really see why a german would use letter for example16:17
apacheloggerryanakca: please file a bug report16:17
apacheloggerryanakca: did you install the missing language packs before you stumbled upon the loop bug?16:18
ryanakcaapachelogger: against what package? kdebase? kde? k-d-s ?16:18
apacheloggerryanakca: ubiquity16:18
apacheloggeror ubiquity-kde if that exists16:18
ryanakcaapachelogger: even if I used the alternate CD?16:18
ryanakcaok16:19
apacheloggerryanakca: well, it doesn't work with the live anyway :P16:19
apacheloggerryanakca: ryanakca: did you install the missing language packs before you stumbled upon the loop b16:19
ryanakcaapachelogger: yes, they were installed. At least, English was marked as installed in the ``Install new languages'' dialogue... and would that be a duplicate of bug 62613 ?16:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 62613 in ubiquity "Correct locale settings not set within KDE after installation" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/6261316:22
ryanakcaalso, bug 14441416:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 144414 in ubiquity "Localization issues and more." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14441416:22
apacheloggerryanakca: not the former16:23
apacheloggerthat was about KDE 316:23
apacheloggerand apparently only happend sometimes16:23
apacheloggerryanakca: same for the latter16:23
ryanakcaOk16:23
apacheloggerhm16:25
apacheloggerwhy does the country selector have an ok button16:25
* apachelogger is wondering if it only works with single click due to single click setting16:25
apacheloggerryanakca: doesn't loop here16:26
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: please throw bugs which we can actually fix for intrepid at me16:27
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: ok16:28
ryanakcaapachelogger: bug 27863416:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 278634 in ubiquity "[Intrepid Beta] KDE does not use the language selected during install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27863416:28
ryanakcaIf you would like to confirm :)16:28
JontheEchidnaI'll probably work on the cubecap, but I can't test it since I lacks proprietary drivers that work for my card16:28
JontheEchidnaI'll also grab the cylinder/sphere shaders from trunk and add them to the patch16:29
JontheEchidnaWhat's with bug 275997?16:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 275997 in kdebase "Intrepid: Kubuntu maximise button missing from Konqueror" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27599716:45
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: ^?16:45
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: Riddell fixed t that in kds the other day17:04
JontheEchidnacool, I'll close it then17:04
=== mbiebl_ is now known as mbiebl
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: did you ever report a bug to fd.o in order to get bug 217654 sorted?17:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 217654 in kdesdk "nautilus won't launch KDE apps" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21765417:34
ScottKWhy is that a bug in kdesdk?17:35
apacheloggerScottK: see most recent comment I added17:51
apacheloggergnome doesn't handle empty keys to well17:52
apacheloggerand KDE got a lot of empty Path keys17:52
apacheloggerand JontheEchidna and I are not really sure whether it is an issue in GNOME or in the desktop files17:52
ScottKglib2.0 in hppa is fixed, so we have some hope of getting kde stuff built on hppa now.18:42
apacheloggerI seriously need some main sponsors :P19:04
* apachelogger pings nixternal19:04
apacheloggerScottK: btw, if you got some seconds ... kgrubeditor needs a retry on amd64 and lpia19:06
ScottKapachelogger: Done.19:25
apacheloggerthank you19:26
ScottKNo problem.  Those are easy enough.19:27
apacheloggerryanakca: what to do, make the drupal theme scalable or the wiki static?20:18
* apachelogger finds the size of the drupal theme unsufficient for the wiki20:18
apacheloggerthen again changing the theme for the wiki is a) weird b) awful looking c) distrubing a user when trying to clix0r through all the top right links20:19
apacheloggerso we need a unification of some sort20:19
* smarter uploads a new snapshot of Kvkbd, a virtual keyboard for KDE, to his PPA: https://launchpad.net/~smarter/+archive (feedback appreciated :) ) 20:32
apacheloggersmarter: as if we would ever had gotten feedback when we asked here :P20:43
smarter:P20:43
apacheloggerwho owns an eeeeeee?20:43
smarter I do20:43
apacheloggersmarter: please try to reproduce bug 25918120:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 259181 in kdebase-workspace "KDM background image not displayed correctly on low resolution display" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25918120:43
smarterdoes it need intrepid to be reproduced?20:44
apacheloggerno, just kdm-kde420:44
apacheloggerI tried with 1024x600 in a vbox but it didn't cause the issue20:44
smarterokay, I've KDE 4.1.0 on my eee, should I update first? :P20:44
apacheloggerso it might very well be just a bug in the driver20:44
apacheloggersmarter: omg, how can even use .0? :P20:44
smarterI don't use my eee a lot when I'm not traveling ;)20:45
smarter(actually, I just found one user of Kvkbd on the french Ubuntu forum, I'm not gonna let him go without asking him to give me plenty of feedback :P)20:45
apacheloggerI think even the eee would be a decent icecc node :P20:45
smarterI'd use it if my main computer was not 64bits :)20:49
apacheloggersmarter: http://en.opensuse.org/Icecream#Cross-Compiling_using_icecream20:55
smarterI doubt I can crosscompil 64 bits on 32 bits :]20:59
smarterbesides, 900Mhz are just not worth the pain :p20:59
apachelogger*shrug*21:02
ryanakcaapachelogger: I'd make it static... are you making it match the Drupal one?21:30
apacheloggerryanakca: yes, the idea is to use the same theme, which is the reason I think the drupal one should become dynamic21:41
apacheloggerthere he goes21:42
* apachelogger gets a tea21:42
ryanakcaapachelogger:  Ah. Feel free to. I quite like the theme that mdke (I believe) wrote for the help.ubuntu.com/community/ wiki... I would've just tweaked it to have Kubuntu colors / gradients... but up to you.21:44
ryanakcaapachelogger: (if you want to see it, you'll need to select it from UserPreferences... if you want the exact name, lemme install FF first, the wiki hates Konqueror)21:45
ryanakcaapachelogger: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mdke/ubuntu-doc/helpwiki-newtheme21:49
ryanakcaapachelogger: ping, could you help me with bug 278620 please? I've built packages (source package: kdebase-runtime) with what I'm hoping is a fix... but how do I get them installed without breaking my system... I can downgrade them to the Kubuntu version fine, but trying to install my ``fixed'' version causes a dependency hell :)22:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 278620 in kdebase-workspace "Add language menu in System Settings contains duplicates" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27862022:05
apacheloggerryanakca: you need to install all required packages at once22:06
apacheloggersudo dpkg -i kdebase-runtime-data kdebase-runtime-data-common kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 etc.22:06
apacheloggerthe dependency hell most likely just affects kdebase-runtime packages anyway22:07
ryanakcaapachelogger: thanks22:11
ryanakca... also... should I have ubuntu-minimal installed in my chroot?22:12
apacheloggerfor what?22:13
ryanakcaapachelogger: building chroot...22:13
apacheloggerdepends on what you want to do with the chroot22:14

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