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yad__but i still will have to download flash yeah?00:00
Deniseyes00:00
TamagotonoI believe the kubuntu-restricted-extras contains the flash package.  I'll doublecheck...00:00
LordCrchi, just installed kubuntu 8.04 on my laptop, and i'm having some problems viewing regular xvid avi files. The included Dragon player wouldnt work at all, while after some tinkering kmplayer would play locally but not over network. What's the solution for streaming avi from samba shares?00:01
Tamagotonoyad__: I just checked and YES, it is in the kubuntu-restricted-extras package.  You may need to restart your browser for it to start working.00:03
shprotcan somebady help me to upgrade kubuntu?00:13
Tamagotonoshprot: what are you upgrading from?00:14
shprotfrom adept_manager00:15
Tamagotonoshprot: I was referring to ubuntu, xubuntu, windows, previous version of kubuntu, etc.00:16
shprotprevious version of kubuntu (hardy)00:17
Tamagotonoare you just wanting to get Hardy up-to-date or are you wanting to upgrade to Intrepid Beta?00:17
shprotsorry, my English is very bad00:18
shprotI try to upgrade to Intrepid Beta00:19
shprotadept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel00:19
sorush20hi I love kubuntu four00:23
sorush20I want to donate where do I go.. prefer papal00:23
Deniselol00:24
Deniseu can go on my website00:24
Deniseits not a word00:24
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MrKennieI'm not sure you can donate financially is it were, it is backed commercially00:27
Tamagotonoshprot: I am not going to be of much help with this.  I did a fresh install of Intrepid and am not aware of issues relating to upgrading from Hardy to Intrepid.  I recommend asking on #ubuntu+1 they should be able to help better than I.00:28
shprotthanks00:28
Tamagotonosorry I couldn't be of more help.00:28
sorush20guys my time in kde is not updating00:31
sorush20any help?00:31
Tamagotonosorush20: are you trying to update through the terminal or adept?00:33
sorush20I have updated but now the time is not working00:33
sorush20any help?00:33
sorush20update time from server is not working00:34
sorush20has adept been replaced by some thing cause it seemes to have been removed after upgrade00:34
MrKenniesorush20: adept shouldn't have gone anywhere00:35
* foo slaps ubuntu 00:36
fooWhat kind of a nick is that?00:36
fooIt should be kubuntu :)00:36
sorush20foo: adept-manager00:37
sorush20is gone00:37
ubuntune1 know how to animate the windows movement behavior in kubuntu? need compiz??00:38
yad__HI How do i change  the picture size in kaffeine00:41
Denisemorning coffee00:41
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ubuntune1 know how to animate the windows movement behavior in kubuntu? need compiz??00:42
MrKennie!compiz00:43
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion00:43
ubuntuthnx00:43
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yad__how do you mount images in kubuntu00:49
stdin!iso00:50
ubottuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.00:50
jcarlin6help00:50
MrKennie!help00:50
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots00:50
MrKennieoops00:50
MrKenniejcarlin6: what's up?00:50
jcarlin6i am trying to install a tar.gz file00:50
jcarlin6and can't figure it out00:51
MrKenniejcarlin6: what is it exactly?00:51
jcarlin6it's airstrike but not the one off adept00:51
jcarlin6i'll give you the link00:51
jcarlin6http://icculus.org/airstrike/00:52
MrKenniefirst off you need to unpack it00:52
jcarlin6i downloaded the linux version this is a little bit newer than the adept version00:52
jcarlin6okay did that00:52
MrKennieOK, if you change to the directory it created do you see a readme file or install?00:52
jcarlin6yes i see both00:53
MrKenniejcarlin6: ok, first thing is to read the readme00:53
MrKenniereadme, and/or install should tell you everything you need to know to install it00:54
jcarlin6okay now the install?00:55
MrKennieread the install file yes00:55
MrKenniefollow it carefully especially if you have to compile it first00:55
jcarlin6were are the programs adept installs located?00:57
MrKenniedepends00:57
josephis it possible to make dolphin's window contents transparent?00:58
jcarlin6thanks mrKennie bye00:58
MrKenniejcarlin6: there's no Program Files or Applications folder in Linux.00:58
MrKennieyour welcome.00:59
MrKennieyou're*00:59
jcarlin6so were is it stored then?00:59
MrKenniejcarlin6: programs tend to be seperated in to libraries and executables. the libs generall go in /usr/lib and execuables in /usr/bin but it really depends on the program01:00
jcarlin6alrights thx bye01:01
yad__hi i downloaded gcdemu but how do i install it01:03
MrKennieyad__: you will need to extract it and read the included instructions.01:03
yad__yeah but i didnt understand anything of the instalation file01:05
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Naomarikhow do I change compiz's resize window from alt-middle click to alt-rightclick?01:06
MrKennieyad__: what don't you understand?01:06
yad__it says that  i should run01:07
yad__ The `configure' shell script attempts to guess correct values for01:07
yad__various system-dependent variables used during compilation.  It uses01:07
yad__those values to create a `Makefile' in each directory of the package.01:07
yad__It may also create one or more `.h' files containing system-dependent01:07
yad__definitions.  Finally, it creates a shell script `config.status' that01:07
yad__you can run in the future to recreate the current configuration, and a01:07
yad__file `config.log' containing compiler output (useful mainly for01:07
yad__debugging `configure').01:07
MrKennieyad__: whoa stop01:07
MrKennieyad__: open konsole01:07
yad__sorry01:07
yad__yes01:08
MrKennieyad__: it's OK, jsut don't paste in here :)01:08
MrKennieactually, easier still, Do you have dolphin open?01:08
Naomarikmr kennie how do I change my windows manager from compiz to kwin upon start up?01:09
yad__yes01:09
MrKennieyad__: go into that directory you extracted the file to01:09
MrKennieif not already01:09
MrKennie!compiz | Naomarik01:09
ubottuNaomarik: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion01:09
yad__iḿ there :)01:09
MrKennieyad__: go to tools -> open terminal01:10
MrKennieat the top01:10
yad__yea01:10
MrKennieyad__: you will at least need the build-essential stuff installed to do sudo apt-get install build-essential01:11
yad__sorry?01:12
MrKennietype sudo apt-get install build-essential01:12
yad__yeah i think its installing now01:13
NaomarikMr kennie: still can't find anyone to help me. I installed compiz via desktop-effects and I'm having trouble trying to make kwin my default windows manager01:13
Naomarikoh n/m just got 3 replies on #ubuntu ;)01:14
MrKennieNaomarik: even disabling it from desktop effects?01:14
yad__is the program installed now?01:14
MrKennieyad__: if you got no errors and you got your prompt back then yes01:14
NaomarikmrKennie: disabling it makes KDE load only a cursor wiht a black screen01:15
Naomariknothing happens01:15
Naomarikso I have to enable it01:15
MrKennieNaomarik: I had that problem, I had to just remove compiz01:15
yad__mrkennie i dont find the program in any menus?01:16
Naomarikah.. I would rather keep compiz but load kwin by default01:16
MrKennieyad__: in the same terminal you need to type ./configure01:16
Naomarikbut on another  note, do you know how to change compiz resize window from alt-middle button to alt-right click as kwin default?01:17
MrKennieyad__: you will not get anything added to your menu with build-essential, it's just a bunch of development tools and headers to compile things from source etc01:18
yad__yes and says configure: error: gnome-doc-utils >0.3.2 not found01:18
TamagotonoNaomarik: to change between compiz and kwin, have you tried fusion-icon?  it puts a handy icon in your tray to easly switch between them.01:19
Naomarikyeah that's the only way i've been able to swtich01:19
Naomarikbut i'd like to load Kwin as default ;(01:19
MrKennieyad__: you will need to install that.01:19
MrKennieyad__: compiling programs from source can be a nightmare. Does the readme file mention what it depends on?01:20
MrKennieyad__: that is, it can be a nightmare if you've never done it before.01:20
yad__Im sorry im so new with this01:20
yad__i only want a program that works like deamon tools01:20
MrKennieno need to be sorry01:21
MrKenniewell, type sudo apt-get install gnome-doc-utils and then type ./configure again01:21
TamagotonoNaomarik: It's not pretty but, you could make a quick script with the line 'kwin --replace' in it and place it in your .kde/Autostart/ directory01:21
MrKennieyad__: it will be a trial and error process until configure completes successfully.01:22
NaomarikTamagotono: I ran kwin --replace in terminal and got a blank screen ;/01:22
yad__yeah i can see that :) it says thee same thing again01:23
yad__maybee i should install a software  thats easyier to instal01:23
MrKenniehow old is that program you are trying to compile?01:23
TamagotonoNaomarik: Now I understand your problem.  That makes it much more difficult.01:24
MrKennieyad__: and yes, I think that might be an idea.01:24
MrKennieyad__: I think you need to get yourself familiar with the command line too.01:24
NaomarikTamagotono: seems like after installing compiz via desktop-effects I can't successfully boot into KDE without using compiz01:25
MrKennieyad__: it's not really that hard once you learn the basics01:25
yad__hehe now it seems like i never will01:25
yad__do oyu have a tip of a program likee deamon tools01:25
MrKennieI'm sure there's something in kubuntu already01:25
NaomarikTamagotono: there's a file called 25-enable-compiz in /etc/X11/Xsession.d that does export KDEWM="/usr/bin/compiz"01:26
MrKennieyad__: what is it you're trying to acheive anyway?01:26
MrKennieyad__: mount an iso?01:26
Naomarikif this line doesn't execute, i get a blank screen with a cursor01:27
MrKennieyad__: I've read Kiso is a good tool.01:28
TamagotonoNaomarik: Not sure if it'll work but you could try to modify that file to point to /usr/bin/kwin01:29
yad__ok i only need it for dvd movies that are in iso files01:29
MrKennieyad__: install kiso, it should be able to read them.01:33
Tamagotono!tell yad__ about iso01:33
ubottuyad__, please see my private message01:33
yad__yeah the other program most have been old because i didnt find it in the add or remove program01:34
Naomarikanyone familiar with setting up multiple monitors? when I maximize it goes on both monitors instead of one01:35
zerothis./configure "error: could not detect required GTK >= 2.4". how do i fix this? I think I need the gtk development libraries, how do I get those?01:35
MrKenniezerothis: you probably want libgtk2.0-dev01:36
TamagotonoNaomarik: what video card are you running?  I have a dual monitor setup with Nvidia 760001:36
Naomarikyeah nvidia01:36
Naomarik8600M GT01:37
Naomariki managed to get the drivers to wokr01:37
Naomarikand i can extend my display01:37
Naomarikbut maximizing a window goes to both01:37
Tamagotonouse the nvidia-configuration tool to configure your dual monitor setup.  Works great!01:37
Naomarikyou mean nvidia-settings01:38
TamagotonoThats the one.  Sorry, I am not at home where that computer is.01:38
zerothisMrKennie: attemting to install libgtk2.0-dev results in "E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)"01:38
Naomarikyeah that's what i use to extend the display01:38
MrKenniezerothis: do you have adept open?01:39
Naomarikbut i can't make it maximise to 1 window01:39
zerothisno, I do not have any package managers open01:39
zerothiswait, let me kill them to be sure01:40
Naomarikany idea what this does     Option         "Xinerama" "0"01:40
Naomariknot sure whether that's enabling or disabling it01:40
MrKenniedisabled xinerama01:40
MrKenniedisables01:40
Naomarikyeah that's what it should be i would think01:40
Naomariki'm using twinview mode01:40
Tamagotonothere is an option to configure xinerama or twinview (I think.. poor memory :) )  whichever one you are using is the wrong one to get it to expand to one monitor only.01:40
Naomarikbaiscally all i'm doing is enabling my second monitor to twinview mode and absolute positioning them to how they are in real life but it extends the taskbar and windows across both01:41
zerothisah, apt was apparently running. the lib installed fine01:41
yad__mr kennie you solved my problem! thanks01:42
MrKennieyad__: np01:42
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mojosan`hello01:54
Naomarikhallo01:56
DarkShinigamihello01:57
Naomarikanyone using 8.10?02:00
TamagotonoI am02:02
Naomarikwhat's that "Desktop" thing that appears with the note program by default?02:03
Naomarikmouseovers on folders in it are pretty unresponsive and launching things from it are slow as well02:03
Naomarikbut figure out my xorg.conf yet?02:03
TamagotonoI think you are talking about the notes plasmoid.  and I don't see anything wrong with your Xorg.conf02:04
Naomarikhmm02:05
Naomarikyeah there's the notes one02:05
Naomarikand the other one02:05
Naomarikhttp://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell/8.10-upgrade/upgrade3-wee.png02:05
Naomarikyou can see all the icons in there02:05
Naomarikit's basically a window of ~/Desktop02:06
Naomariknot sure why but doesn't seem be so responsive to me02:06
Naomarikoh02:08
Naomarikseems i hvae something taking 100% cpu called obex-data-serv02:08
Naomarikthat might be why02:08
Tamagotonothat would explain it!  I think that process is used for transferring files via bluetooth02:09
Naomarikbluetooth is what i thought too02:09
Naomarikand i can't kill the process02:09
Naomariklol02:10
Tamagotonotry ' sudo hciconfig hci0 down ' to disable bluetooth and see if the process dies.02:10
Naomarikokay what's a "zombie process" i just logged on root on another tty and it told me there's one running02:11
Naomarikstill running02:11
Naomarikafter issuing that command02:12
Tamagotonobut is it still using 100% cpu?02:12
abdoupirathello friend02:12
Naomarikyeah!02:12
Naomarikit is02:12
dr_willisi dident think it was possible to kill a zombie process.. its a process that died.. but dident die properly02:15
TamagotonoNaomarik: try 'kill -9' then the pid of the zombie02:15
Naomarikaye i just got that advice from #ubuntu02:15
Naomarikand it worked02:15
Naomarikwhat's the -9 switch do?02:16
dr_willisKill with EXTREME prejudice02:16
dr_willis:)02:16
dr_willisone rarely needs to use -902:16
dr_willishttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_process02:16
Tamagotonocrude but effective...02:17
dr_willisTo remove zombies from a system, the SIGCHLD signal can be sent to the parent manually, using the kill command. If the parent process still refuses to reap the zombie, the next step would be to remove the parent process. When a process loses its parent, init becomes its new parent. Init periodically executes the wait system call to reap any zombies with init as parent.02:17
Naomarikhow do i know which process is the zombie02:18
Tamagotonouse 'top' and under the status (S) heading it will be R for running, S for sleeping or Z for zombie02:19
dr_willisZombies can be identified in the output from the Unix ps command by the presence of a "Z" in the STAT column.02:20
dr_willisFrom that wiki page. :)02:20
Naomarikthe zombie process says ccsm <defunct>02:20
Naomarikalright going to restart x and see if my xorg.conf works02:21
b0nnHi all, I get the following error when I run apt-get update:02:23
b0nnW: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org gutsy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 2EBC26B60C5A2783 Medibuntu Packaging Team <admin@lists.medibuntu.org>02:24
b0nnHow do I fix0r it?02:24
b0nnI ran wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update, but no fix02:24
b0nner, it didnt fix02:24
Naomarikok it didn't work02:25
NaomarikTamagotono: mind taking a look at my log?02:25
Tamagotonosend it to pastbin and I'll look02:25
dr_willisHmm..02:25
dr_willis!medibuntu02:25
ubottumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org02:25
dr_willissudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list02:26
* dr_willis reads more...02:26
Naomarikhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/54072/02:26
dr_willissudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update02:26
Naomarikseems that rgb thing is causing a problem02:27
b0nndr_willis: that seems to have done the trick, thanks02:28
dr_willisb0nn,  all i did was read the directions at the medibuntu site. :)02:29
dr_willisnot sure where you got your command from.. i see no mentionof it at that site.02:29
dr_willisNot sure what  medibuntu-keyring   does either. :)02:30
TamagotonoNaomarik: the xorg.conf you posted earlier did not have that line.  Where did it come from?  Can you paste that copy of xorg.conf please02:30
Naomarikyeah02:30
Naomarikhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/54074/02:30
Naomarikand there is no RGB thing in that directory02:31
antonHey how do i install Kubuntu desklist from the konsole?02:31
TamagotonoNaomarik: is the xorg.conf you just posted, the one that you used when X failed to start?02:32
b0nndr_willis: from the ubuntu forums02:32
b0nnhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=503103202:32
dr_willisb0nn,  i would guess that post was out of date with what the medibuntu repo does02:32
Naomarikaye Tamagotono02:32
Naomariktaht one is linked to the log02:33
antonActually..how do I install Kopete desklist? Doesn't really need to be from the konsole02:34
Naomarikwait this one is02:34
Naomarikhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/54063/02:34
Naomarikthe previous one i linked you02:34
Naomarikit has the rgbpath02:34
Naomarikthe other one is similar but the screens don't have 'absolute positioning' on02:35
Naomarikit also failed on me.02:35
b0nnIm still unable to upgrade kde for some reason02:36
b0nnI get "Err http://ppa.launchpad.net hardy/main kde-icons-oxygen 4:4.1.1-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa102:36
Tamagotonothey are failing because X is picky and will crash if there is any problem with your xorg.conf file.  Delete or comment out lines 8,9,and 10 then try again.  If it crashes paste your Xorg.0.conf02:36
b0nnfor several packages02:36
Naomarikaite02:36
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antonI'm willing to make love to the person who tells me how to install kopete desklist plugin02:37
Naomarikrestarting x02:38
Naomarikokay it kinda worked02:40
Naomarikbut on my second display02:40
Naomarikyou know how when windows 98 and lower used to failt o refresh the screen so when you moved a window it drew a million times?02:40
dr_willisYes. :)02:40
Naomarikyeah02:40
Naomarikthat's what my 2nd display is doing02:41
dr_willisi even see that under vista02:41
Naomariki ahven't seen it in vista :)02:41
antonAnyone knows how to install kopete desklist plugin?02:42
TamagotonoNaomarik: not sure what to tell you.  I don't see anything odd in your config.02:44
TamagotonoJust wondering... when you maximise a  window does it expand to 1 or both screens?02:45
Naomariklemme see02:46
Naomarikone screen ;)02:46
Naomarikand taskbar is on one screen02:46
Tamagotonohalf way there!  :)02:46
Naomarikwell02:46
Naomarikhehe02:46
Naomariksuppose so ;)02:46
Naomariktoo bad i can't do this on the fly though like windows02:47
ShadowBelmolvehello, i'm new in kde, i'm using superkaramba and the widgets have a black background =[, is any config?02:47
TamagotonoNaomarik: I have to get going, I have to turn over to the night shift.  I'll be home in about 1.5 to 2 hours and will email you my xorg.conf file then.02:48
Naomarikalrighty thx for helping me Tamagotono02:49
Tamagotononp02:49
antonHow do I install desklist plugin using the konsole?02:51
brad_hello02:53
brad_i need some help on the combiz02:54
brad_anyone interested in helping02:54
falieson1I'm looking for a good music visualizer, like iTunes 8.0 has but for linux of course!02:54
brad_desktop cube02:55
brad_anyone know how to initiate the cube so it is 3 dimensional02:55
brad_using the control alt arrow right keys02:55
brad_and arrow down02:56
brad_ect...02:56
brad_cannot get the screen to 3 dimensionalize like i see it int he book02:56
Naomarikokay new problem, kwin completely doesn't work02:56
brad_can anyone even see my question02:57
brad_or is everyone ignoring me02:57
antonAre you talkin about lifting the active windows brad_?02:57
brad_in the ubuntu book it shows the desktop 3d02:58
brad_i want mine to look like that02:58
b0nnI get a whole lot of 404's when I try to upgrade kde5libs02:58
b0nnErr http://ppa.launchpad.net hardy/main02:58
b0nn^there02:58
antonYou got a link to that book?02:58
b0nnany ideas?02:58
brad_in advanced desktop settings02:58
brad_turning on the 3d cube02:58
antonAh02:58
brad_its all on and installed but i dont seem to have the 3 dim desktop appearance i see int he book02:59
antonIf you have the settings shouldn't you just click the box then choose whatever keys you want to initilize it with?02:59
brad_yes02:59
brad_and i cannot seem to get it to actually 3d for some reason02:59
antonWeird.. You got the drivers all figured out etc?03:00
brad_the control alt right arrow key will actually flip the cube03:00
brad_but i want it to minimize and view the screen as a 3d cube03:00
brad_am i making any sense03:00
brad_maybe not03:00
brad_sorry03:00
antonhahaha03:00
antonNo its cool03:00
antonYou got a scroller on your mouse yeah?03:01
brad_i justed install ubuntu on a wim03:01
antonBetween the two clickers?03:01
brad_and i love it03:01
brad_yes03:01
antonHold that one down and then drag your mouse sideways03:01
brad_oh the scroller is a touch and built in to the touch03:01
brad_probably have to get an external mouse03:02
antonWell I think that's the standard choice for that but you can change it somehow..03:02
antonTo tell you the truth im a newb03:02
antonhaha03:02
antonbrb ciggarett03:02
brad_me to03:03
brad_i probably dont have the touch mouse driver installed correctly03:03
brad_that would be my guess03:03
brad_anyone my sata hard drive failed on this dell inspiron 142003:03
brad_under warratny03:03
brad_so i grabbed another and installed ubuntu while waiting03:04
brad_this is the coolest o.s. ever03:04
brad_i don't want to go back to win vista03:04
brad_anton03:04
brad_you there still03:04
brad_okay03:05
brad_im talking to myself so ill go03:05
brad_later all03:05
antonhaha03:09
antonwait brad03:09
antoni there?03:09
antonweeak03:09
antonwell03:09
antonnight all03:09
zohaib1020can someone help me?03:30
zohaib1020anyone?03:31
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zohaib1020can anyone help me?03:32
zohaib1020my whole partition is messed up atm and i need to find a way to recover my data03:32
Naomariktry #ubuntu more active there atm03:35
zohaib1020ok03:36
xjohnthomasx2can anyone help me with my crossover cat5e cable/network setup??? i have the cable in. i set the ip's and same netmask. i had it working an hour ago. now it just says "ntwork unreachable", and i have no idea whyyyy?????03:38
dr_willisdouble check the settings..  see if they can even ping each other?03:38
Khola a todos03:40
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falieson1using apt-get how do I know what version its installing?03:47
zohaib1020it installs the latest03:48
falieson1right, but how do I know what version that is? my make file says I don't have at least a certain version of libpulse but apt-get install libpulse0 says I have the latest version03:49
zerothisI'm getting an odd behavior with fullscreen games. a "fullscreen" swtiches back to a window that immediately moves from centered to aligning to the upper left corner of the desktop. Xmoto in an example that does this. Other game will minimize immediately, clicking on the window list brings it up then it minimizes again Alt+Tab does the same. Armegetron is an example.03:49
zohaib1020not sure exactly with apt-get but you can use adept03:50
blueswarriorHi every one03:50
blueswarriorI was hoping some one could tell me if it's possible to shares between two kubuntu machines using samba.03:52
dr_willisblueswarrior,  yes its easiall done03:53
dr_willisbut btween 2 linux boxs - nfs may be a better answer03:53
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blueswarriorI was hoping for a gui solution.   I'm still getting used to the command line.  I just need to transfer a few files before I give one of my systems to my mother in law.03:54
dr_willisblueswarrior,   easy way to transfer a few files is to use ssh/scp03:55
dr_willishttp://www.hypexr.org/linux_scp_help.php03:55
dr_willisinstall ssh on both machines,    take note of the ip of the remote machine.03:56
dr_willisthe kde file manager can also supply a ssh/scp front end.. but i forget the way to do it. (not on liniux rigth now)03:56
blueswarriorI'll try to find the front end.03:57
dr_willisscp foobar.txt your_username@ip.of.remote.box:/some/remote/directory03:57
dr_willis:)03:57
dr_willisssh/scp is worth learning.03:58
blueswarrioris it called kssh?03:58
dr_willisKDE’s fish:// protocol abstraction for accessing others systems via ssh is designed to handle situations like this.03:59
dr_willisthat woul;d be a front end to ssh. :) kde has the 'fish://' kioslave that lets it access a remote box via ssh.03:59
chrisruls00does anyone know if it is possible to connect to google talk with kopete? Usually I don't use it but my dad is away and google is the only one that works where he is for some reason.03:59
dr_willisfish://server-hostname:port/path.03:59
blueswarriorI've come a long way since I went 100% linux but I still have much to learn.   hehe I was hoping for a quick  "click this, click that, drag and drop, and wallah! all done!"04:02
dr_willisblueswarrior,  kde's fish: is such a thing.04:02
dr_willisI just dont rember how to make it see the initial network/location04:02
Naomarikalright... anyone know how I can completely reinstall kwin or make it default?04:03
dr_willisother then typing in fish://ip.number.of.box04:03
dr_willisNaomarik,  how did you make it the non-default?04:03
Naomarikcompiz ruined my life :904:03
dr_willisNaomarik,  let me guess.. you removed compiz..04:03
Naomariki installed desktop-manager, then installed compiz via that04:03
dr_willisand now kde wont start right04:03
blueswarrioris it called kfish for kde?04:03
Naomarikno.. if I remove it, i can't boot into kde04:03
Naomarikkde only works with compiz now04:04
Naomarikkwin doesn't work at all04:04
blueswarriorI see fish and kfish in adept right now04:04
dr_willisblueswarrior,  No no no.. In the konqueror file manager, address bar, You use              fish://ip.number.of.box04:04
Naomariki get blackscreen with cursor with kwin04:04
dr_willisblueswarrior,  its allready a built in feature of the file manager04:04
dr_willisNaomarik,  Hmm.. kwin --replace , dosent replace compiz?04:04
Naomarikdoing that give sme the blackscreeen i just said04:04
Naomarikit's like kwin hates me completely04:05
dr_willisNaomarik,  try making a new user, see if it works for them.04:05
Naomarikmaybe it hates my xorg.conf cause ti works with a failsafe xorg04:05
blueswarriorlol  kfish is an aquarium thing04:05
Naomarikgood idea04:05
dr_willisfailsafe xorg.conf - would most likely disable compiz   - due to not having the proper 3d drivers used04:05
Naomarikyeah it does04:06
Naomarikbut it does let me use kwin04:06
Naomarikit's like when i use kwin it doesn't render anything04:06
Naomarikif i move my cursor04:06
dr_williskwin --replace is supposed to tell compiz to exit.04:06
Naomarikit changes depending on what it's over04:06
blueswarriordr willis...  what command do i use to get the ip number of the machine?04:07
Naomariklike if it's over a window border i get the resize cursor04:07
dr_willisblueswarrior,  i would go look at the remote machine, and try the ifconfig command in a terminal04:07
Naomarikdr_willis: it does but it ends up just giving me black screen ;/04:07
Naomariki'll make new user now and see04:07
blueswarriorbetter yet.. anyone know of a site where all the linux commands are listed one easy page?04:07
dr_willisNaomarik,  there is a    ~/.config/compiz(04:08
dr_willisblueswarrior,  there is no such list as 'all of the linux commands' it all deopends oin what you have installed04:08
dr_willisthere are dozens of shell tutorial sites that cover most of them04:08
dr_willisif you want to see 'every' command,, hit the tab key a few times in a terminal. :)04:08
dr_williswillis@black:~/.config/compiz(0 Mb)$04:08
dr_willisDisplay all 2112 possibilities? (y or n)04:08
dr_willisseems i have 2112 commands in my current Path. :)04:09
blueswarriorhehe no...  don't have enough time...04:09
blueswarriorany site where I can get a list of the most commonly used?04:09
dr_willisCommand line tutorial sites  might.04:09
Naomarikdr_willis: any wya to clone a user making a new one? like copying all the groups he belongs to04:09
dr_willishttp://www.digilife.be/quickreferences/quickrefs.htm04:10
dr_willisNaomarik,  as root user, cp the whole dir over. then chown the files to be owned by the new user.. but not sure about the groups..04:10
dr_willisNaomarik,    its very likely that removing that .config/comiz directory - may fix the problem04:10
dr_willisdepending on what other things you did with compiz. :)04:11
Naomarikreally04:11
Naomariki'll cp it over to ~/ :)04:11
dr_williswhy not just rename it. thus disabling compiz. (i think) and logout/back in and see04:12
blueswarriorthanks dr willis...   I also found http://linuxcommand.org04:12
dr_willisIm not a compis expert however.04:12
dr_willishttp://www.digilife.be/quickreferences/QRC/UNIX%20commands%20reference%20card.pdf04:13
Naomarikdr_willis: why isn't rm -R compiz working04:13
Naomarikno error or anything ;/04:14
Naomarikdirectory stays there04:14
dr_willischeck who the owner is, and normally you use rm -rf to remove a directory.04:14
dr_willisor rmdir for a empty dir04:14
dr_willishttp://www.digilife.be/quickreferences/QRC/Bash%20Quick%20Reference.pdf04:15
Naomariki used sudo too didn't work04:15
Naomarikweird04:15
Naomarikmaybe it's in use?04:15
dr_willisshouldent matter04:15
Naomarikanyway  if ic an tell if a file is locked?04:15
Naomarikyeah rmdir doesn't work cause it's not empty04:15
dr_willisfish://ip.number.of.box04:16
dr_willisoops04:16
Naomariki just moved it04:16
dr_willis rm -rf .config/compiz/04:16
dr_willisworked for me04:16
Naomariki had to move it to another directory then sudo remove it04:16
Naomarikand it worked04:16
Naomarikhehe04:16
dr_williswow ... http://www.digilife.be/quickreferences/indexe.html has a lot of neat stuff.. :)04:17
dr_willisa site to definatly bookmark04:17
hugo__hola04:17
blueswarriorhehe I think I might throw in the towel for now and just copy everything to cd's.  no matter how I slice it.. I have a steep learning curve to get through on file sharing in Linux.04:24
blueswarriorsomething tells me this should be much more straight forward..  but then again I'm not a programmer/developer.04:25
lordcrchi04:32
blueswarriorHi04:32
lordcrci'm trying to view a folder in a samba share in konq, using smb://, and it just doesnt compute04:36
lordcrcis it because the folder contains a ø? works fine when i access it from windows (server is a freenas box)04:37
dr_williscan you view other direcories without that special character?04:37
lordcrcyeah04:38
dr_willistry renaming that directory and removing that special char..04:38
lordcrcit doesnt have the folder icon either, even though it certain is a folder (and acts that way in windows)04:39
dr_willisits possible that char is the issue.04:39
lordcrchmm04:39
dr_willisbut i just use american/normal characters.. so never  had any of this kind of issues04:39
lordcrcyeah, that seems to be a common occurance :P (i just bought some software which used my creditcard name as username, and fails to authenticate for what i suspect is the exact same reason, my name contains ø)04:40
dr_willisI dont even have an  ø  on my keyboard. :)04:40
dr_willisHellø04:41
dr_willis:)04:41
lordcrcid have to ssh into the freenas box then, bah, tedious! :D04:41
lordcrcheh04:41
dr_willisI often use winscp to transfer files to/from windows/linux machines04:41
dr_willisive noticed that samba/shares on linux box's can confufse windows machines with the  different naming rules/limits04:42
dr_willisLike a share with directories - called 'Data' and 'data'04:42
lordcrccomes up as ? when i list it through ssh on the freenas box :D04:44
lordcrcah04:44
onemorevoiceanyone know what the command is to choose new video drivers?  I tried rebuilding xorg but all it appears to do is reconfigure my keyboard04:44
lordcrcalso, is the easiest way to un-remix this 8.04 install to just reinstall?04:45
lordcrcrenaming the folder sorta worked04:47
lordcrcnow it complains that all the files inside containing special chars does not exist :)04:47
dr_willisunmix ?04:47
lordcrcyeah im running the kde4 thingy04:47
lordcrci think i wanna try kde3, see if it got less twitches04:47
lordcrcah wait i think i need to enable utf-8 somewhere somehow04:50
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dr_willisYep. sounds like a utf-8 sort of issue to me04:51
naknomikHi I'm using Kubuntu with KDE 4.1 and I want to map the Windows key on my keyboard to the 'K' menu, how do I do that?04:52
dr_willisive seen that askeed befor naknomik  :) i just dont rember the answer.04:52
dr_willisI use the windows key as my 'super' key - so i would not want to do such a thing04:52
naknomikdr_willis: what is super key?04:53
lordcrcit maks you feel super!04:53
lordcrc:D04:53
naknomikI tried the keyboard shortcuts, but could not figure out.04:53
dr_willisthe 'actual' name for the windows key. :)04:53
dr_willisTheres some keyboard shortcut to pop up the K menu..04:54
lordcrcdr_willis: when i tabcomplete the name of the folder over ssh, i get \370 instead of the ø, but it displays as ? :)04:54
naknomikdr_willis: the existing shortcut is Ctrl-F104:56
dr_willisIts Alt-F1 here nak.04:57
naknomikIs there a way to make the task manager use two rows when the panel (or whatever the new name is) bigger?04:58
naknomikdr_willis: aah! yeah, sorry typed wrong, it is Alt-F1 here too.04:59
dr_willisYou may want to clarify that you are using KDE4. :)05:00
dr_willisNot sure thats doable in kde4 at this time05:00
lordcrcdr_willis: interesting, if i use smbclient, i get the ø, and i can "cd ...ø../" and do ls without issues05:00
naknomikdr_willis: I am using KDE4.05:00
lordcrcdr_willis: well ill google around, thanks for your help :)05:02
naknomikBTW, is 'Download widgets from Internet' option broken in KDE 4.1 on hardy?05:02
dr_williskde4.1 is very much a work in progress05:04
dr_willisi think about half of it dosent work for me. :)05:04
Naomarik;/05:05
Naomarikdr_willis: kwin now works05:05
Naomarikafter completely removing compiz05:05
Naomarikand screwing around05:05
Naomariknot exactly sure what did it05:05
dr_willistheres an init script that tweaks some things.. it proberly got removed.05:09
dr_willisor it set the right settings05:09
Naomarikomg i'm getting closer and closer to a nice working environment05:09
Naomarikyeah i saw init scripts everywehre05:09
dr_willisa Nice enviroment WITH kde4? wow..dident think that was possible.05:09
dr_willis:P05:09
Naomarikyeah ;)05:09
Naomarikremoving all these errors slowly05:10
Naomarikany idea why my wlan0 interface won't get an ip sometimes?05:10
Naomariksometimes i'll run dhclient and it will pick one up instantly05:10
Naomarikother times it doens't do anything05:10
Naomarikhave to reboot05:11
dr_willisI have several rolls of 100Ft  Cat6 cable.. I dont need no stinking wireless05:11
dr_willis:P05:11
Naomarik;/05:12
Naomarikany idea why rolling over some icons on the desktop would spike xorg cpu usage?05:13
lordcrcdr_willis: my buddy just rewired the house with cat 7...05:14
lordcrcdr_willis: bit overkill if you ask me but hey :D05:14
dr_willislordcrc,  cat6 was on sale the weekend  i got mine. :)05:15
lordcrcdr_willis: ah hehe, he got it cheap from work, otherwise i'd cost him a fortune05:16
lordcrc:D05:16
dr_willis"Lunchbox discount'05:16
dr_willis:)05:16
naknomikIs Amarok 2.0 broken?05:16
lordcrcjust the connectors are like over $10 each05:16
naknomikI'm unable to play DAAP audio. plays fine from rhythmbox.05:16
mit_how can i install deg with all it's dependecies?05:18
mit_deb*05:18
lordcrcwoha05:20
lordcrcmemory usage with kde4 makes even xp seem light o.O05:21
lordcrcim running konversation and one konsole instance, plus the default background apps, and its using over 450mb of my memory  :/05:21
billyj_hi!05:41
dr_willis!hi05:58
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!05:58
hellhoundhow do i find out which kernel i am using?06:04
dr_willisuname -a06:06
dr_willisshows kernel info and more06:06
DreadKnightis there any way to have this command saved somehow so i won't need to run it each time?06:25
DreadKnightxsetwacom set  stylus Button 2 "button3"06:25
dr_willisThers some init scripts that get ran when ever X starts up.. is one way06:33
NickPrestadr_willis, hes not here anymore =(06:33
dr_willisor that Xsession script..  (proberly not a good idea to mess with it) :)06:33
dr_williswell get him back!06:33
dr_willisthe lazy bum!06:33
* NickPresta runs to find him06:33
dr_willisAt least he dident cuss at us befor he left.06:33
NickPrestathat's true06:33
surgyif i wanted to completely remove wine and everything that i have ever installed into the .wine directory, and destroy my registry settings and everything, i would type this "sudo purge wine"right?06:34
dr_willis'I demand perfect tech support  for this OS! i paid so much money for... err.. oh wait it was free..i Still DEMAND perfection!'06:34
dr_willissurgy,  nope.06:34
dr_willissurgy,  removing system packages will NOT NOT  NOT touch anything in the users homes06:34
dr_willisand that command is totally wrong also. :)06:34
NickPrestasurgy, sudo apt-get purge wine, then rm -rf ~/.wine06:35
dr_willispurging the wine package.. will remove system wine configs.. not user files06:35
surgyNickPresta: i screwed up my wine, and now i want to forget everything i did to the poor thing and install a copy from the repos, the command you gave will remove everything right?06:36
dr_williswhy are you reinstalling wine? you chaneing versions?06:36
dr_willisremovgine .wine will remove all the stuff you installed with wine. correct...06:36
dr_willisHow did you install wine in the first place?06:37
surgydr_willis: well i tried my hand at a custome compile in order to patch a wine 1.5 version. it made spore run perfect, probably better than on windows, but it screwed all my other games, and spore turned out to suck anyhow06:38
dr_willisif you compiled/installed wine from source.. then unless you made it into a .deb.  the package manager no longer will be able to remove it.06:38
dr_willisIve been playing spore on windows. :) racked up 100 hrs so far.. so its an ok game..06:39
dr_willisa little lacking in depth.. but amuseing.06:39
surgylol06:39
dr_willis'SimUniverse'06:39
surgyso just delete my .wine folder and then purge the package, and the install the package from the repos and i should have the latest public stable relase of wine right?06:40
dr_willisHow exactly did you install wine? from source?06:42
surgyyeah06:42
dr_willisif so you  may have to do a bit more.06:42
surgybut i applied a patch06:42
dr_willissince by source - you bypassed the packaing system.. UNless you built it into a deb.06:43
dr_willis!wine06:43
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.06:43
surgyok ok.... you want the long story...06:43
surgylol had a friend come over, he patched and built a deb for me, and then i installed the deb.06:43
dr_willisThats good then06:43
surgynot so long after all.... hmm seamed a bit longer in my heads with all the visuals06:44
dr_willisso yes.. you can use the package manager.06:44
dr_willisthe winehq site has repos to  more up to date wine also.06:44
surgylol i think ill be just fine staying in the more stable releases for now :) the compatibility spectrum seams to be higher with all the workarounds and such06:45
dr_willisif i want games.. i boot to windows..06:45
dr_willisI do think i need to pick up  That Crysis Warhead... it got good reviews.. and its cheap. :)06:45
surgyyeah except i dont want to tear my new computer up :)06:45
surgyi hate windows06:46
surgywhats the command to check my wine version?06:46
dr_willisweirsd06:47
surgyscore06:49
surgyi can read the eula now in cod4 setup06:49
surgymustve done something right06:49
* salohcin grins06:49
Traveler5how do you install nvidia drivers06:53
Traveler5i downloader it from their website, and its a .run file06:53
Traveler5but i have no idea how to install it06:53
dr_willisthats the LAST way you want to try to instll them06:53
dr_willis The hardware-manager tool is the first way to try06:53
surgylol06:53
Traveler5eh?06:53
dr_willisdependign on your exact card.. it should handle it.06:53
surgyi remember the days before the magicle hardware manager :)06:54
Traveler5does it autoinstall them, like does hte one it come with work fine or do i need better drivers06:54
Traveler5i have a 9600gso06:54
dr_willisIn the menus, theres a hardware manger/driver-manager tool that should work in most cases.06:54
surgyim using a 9600 gt and the driver gets me about 45 fps on spore with graphics turned all the way up06:54
dr_willisBUT with some of the newer cards.. it may not work,, in that case. i would try the 'envyng' tool06:54
dr_willisIF that fails.. You  might want to try the ones from nvidia.06:55
Traveler5ok06:55
Traveler5and also, i have two monitors, i cant get them to work06:55
dr_willisI got an 8800gtsxxx06:55
Traveler5i mean like where the screen is extended06:55
salohcin!nvidia06:55
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:55
Traveler5now they only mirror each other06:55
dr_willisyou must install the nvidia drivers.. then enable twinview for the dual monitors06:55
Traveler5how?06:56
dr_willisthen you can tweak them06:56
dr_willisnvidia-settings tool - lets you tweak them AFTER you get the nvidia drivers installed06:56
Traveler5yes...how do i install the nvidia .run drivers06:56
Traveler5or whatever i need to do06:56
salohcin!nvidia06:56
dr_williswe just went over that.. :) sort of..06:56
dr_willistry the hardware-manager tool in the menus, if it fails.. try the 'envyng' tool06:56
dr_willisif that fails try the nviidia.run stuff06:57
dr_willischmod +x whatever.run   , sudo whatever.run06:57
dr_willisa read of the   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto  site should also be done befor trying the nvidia.run drivers06:57
Traveler5i think i tried the envy tool06:58
Traveler5and it didnt download them06:58
Traveler5for some reason06:58
dr_willisperhap try it again.. and be sure of it. :)06:58
dr_willisbut envyng is also 'unsupported'  - but of course using the nvidia.run  is also unsupported...06:58
Traveler5is there any way you can update your version of kubuntu without redownloading it06:59
dr_willisi dont need to use either one.. i have used envyng befor on my laptop and it worked...06:59
Traveler5i have version 7.10 or whatever and i want to update to 8.0406:59
dr_williswhen the next release comes out you can upgrade06:59
dr_willis7.10? egads.. thats old. :) theres your issue.. i think06:59
dr_willis!upgrade06:59
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes06:59
Traveler5oh maybe06:59
Traveler5yay06:59
Traveler5i found that disc in my room and installed it07:00
Traveler5i dunno how old it is07:00
dr_willisthe #'s are the date of the release07:00
dr_willis10th month 200707:00
dr_willis:)07:00
dr_willisend of the month is the date for the next release.07:00
Traveler5thats pretty old then07:00
dr_willisnew relesaes every 6 mo07:01
dr_willisYep. You may want to wait to the end of the month and just do a clean reinstall of the newest release...07:01
dr_willisorupgrade now, then again in a few weeks...07:01
salohcincan't get a Atheros AR2413 to work :(07:02
Traveler5is there a way to make it not so heavily... konsole based?07:02
Traveler5learning all these obscure commands is a real hassle07:02
salohcinTraveler5: Apply for a job at nVidia07:02
Traveler5:(07:03
dr_willisI dont find them onscure at all07:03
dr_willisvs obscure paths and icons and tabs one has to take to get a task done...07:03
dr_willisa simple command is much clearer.07:03
Traveler5...not really07:04
salohcindr_willis: which change randomly in between versions07:04
dr_willisstart --> this --> that -> advances -> whateverbutton -> slider07:04
dr_willis:)07:04
dr_willissalohcin,  yep..07:04
dr_willisadvanced buttons, on a specific tab = Bad logic. :)07:04
Traveler5do you know most of the commands when you want to do something, or do you have to look them up07:04
dr_willisnow a days it seems the trend it to cross referance/link everything to everything else in vista. :)  makes it 12 ways to get to the same config  area07:04
salohcinTraveler5: Once you appreciate command line it's much much mich more efficient and flexible07:05
dr_willisI know commands exist to do most of all what i need.. and i do know most of them now a days.. and the ones i rarely use.. i know how to  read the docs/manpages/help options07:05
dr_williscommandname --help07:05
dr_willis:)07:05
salohcinTraveler5: GUI is easier to discover. CLI is better to work in07:05
Traveler5how long does it take to become somewhat accustomed to cli07:06
dr_willisfrom an 'irc tech support person' point of view -  the cli is MUCH easier...07:06
salohcinTraveler5: Depends on what you do07:06
dr_willisTraveler5,  start by learning  how to 'lookup/find' things. :) google is our friend.. and stat bookmarking usefull info/pages/sites...07:06
dr_willisand build up your own library.. then read, read, read.. and skim.. then go back to what you need.. when you need it.07:07
salohcinIf you are a photo editor... damn near forever :)07:07
dr_willishow long does it take to get 'good' at photo editing.. :) it takes practice...07:07
salohcindr_willis: How long does it take to get good at photo editing on the command line? ;-)07:07
dr_willishow long does it take to learn to use any tool effiently... it takes pracice07:08
dr_willissalohcin,  theres a great many command line photo editing tools. :P07:08
dr_willis!info imagemagik07:08
ubottuPackage imagemagik does not exist in hardy07:08
Traveler5you would think though that linux would be much more graphically intuitive, especially k/ubuntu which market at general windows users07:08
dr_willisif i spelt that right07:08
dr_willisubuntu dosent really 'market' - Ubuntu exists. :)07:08
Traveler5most people do not want to learn all of this07:08
dr_willisits a tool, not a company. it dosent really do the marketing like you are thinking in MS/Apple Terms07:08
dr_willisI perer to educate the users, not dumb down the tools07:09
salohcinWasn't there that F1 thing?07:09
salohcinTraveler5: For the nVidia thing please complain to nVidia Nothing in FOSS can help you with that07:10
Traveler5well. you think people who have used windows their whole life, who can hardly understand a GUI are going to be able to use linux.... i thought one of its goals was to provide usable alternative to windows07:10
dr_willis Yep.. the hardware driver 'issues' are pretty much the fault of the hardware makers.. not linux07:10
salohcinTraveler5: There is in general very little need to learn the command line07:10
Traveler5im going to update my version07:10
dr_willisI find linux to be a useable alternative...07:10
Traveler5and see if that helps07:10
dr_willisactually vista was supposed to have a 'useble command line' and MS pulled it at the last  moment. if i recall...07:11
dr_willisand vista does have a command line. and yes. ivehad to use it befor..07:11
salohcinNo they had a power command utility07:11
salohcinvast difference07:11
dr_willis'when somthing breaks in windows.. you are stuck trying weird things to hope it gets fixed'  when linux things break.. you can drop down to the lower level (command line) and hopefully debug/fix things..07:11
dr_willisThey got nothing now. :) unless its some unsupported addon.07:12
geeklol07:12
geekalso its so much easier to cut and paste commands ;p07:12
dr_willisYep.07:12
dr_willisstart -> run -> whatever.exe07:13
dr_willis:)07:13
geeklol07:13
salohcinYou do realise the person left like a while back07:13
geekdosen't always work ;p07:13
dr_willisI notied in the windows vista 'start' menu serach feature.. i type the name of the game.. like 'spore' hit enter.. and it dosent run the game.. it searches for the game/name... joy.07:13
salohcinWindows has a screwed up path07:13
dr_willisWindows has screwed up the whole idea of 'learning to use a tool' :)07:14
salohcinOk07:16
salohcinLIttle help07:16
salohcinhow do I list the available wifi networks from command line07:17
dr_willisifwlist  i think...07:17
dr_willisi rarely use wireless07:17
dr_willisiwlist.07:18
dr_willis:)07:18
dr_willisno f07:18
dr_willisLinux makes hard tasks trivial, and trivial tasks redundant.07:18
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DreadKnightheya07:19
dr_willisWindows makes  hard tasks impossible, and trivial tasks repetitive07:19
dr_willis:)07:19
DreadKnightcan anyone please give me the sources.list for intrepid?07:19
dr_willisIm not on intrepid.. sorry07:19
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salohcin!easysource07:19
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about easysource07:19
salohcin!sourceomatic07:20
ubottusource-o-matic is not available anymore, please use Software Sources (in your Applications / K menu) to configure your repositories. Do NOT enable "Proposed updates" unless you're willing to test possibly seriously flawed packages.07:20
dr_williseasysource has been dead for like a year07:20
salohcinSucks07:20
dr_willisand so is that. :)07:20
salohcinWhy?07:20
DreadKnightdunno about easy source07:20
dr_willisno longer anyone wanting to support/take care of it i guess07:20
salohcindr_willis: how do you pastebin from the command line ?07:20
dr_willisor its not really needed any more07:20
DreadKnighti messed up again upgrading from hardy to intrepid on 64 bit; 32 version just works / upgrades07:20
dr_willis!info pastebinit07:20
ubottupastebinit (source: pastebinit): command-line pastebin client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 8 kB, installed size 84 kB07:20
salohcinSweet07:21
salohcinDreadKnight: wouldn't +1 be a better chann?07:21
DreadKnightjust joined there actually07:21
dr_willissalohcin, and you can install it with... You know the commands now... :)  - much easier then click here, there, go to this site.. download, install that... but we dont want to bash on windows any more...07:21
dr_willis:)07:21
dr_willisI thinki will wait a month or so after Intrepid comes out.. befor I upgtrade to it.07:22
salohcin!vista07:22
ubottuvista is a recent version of Microsoft Windows. Discussion on Windows related topics is available in ##windows. General issues on moving from Windows to Ubuntu is convered in the wiki guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows07:22
salohcin!windows07:22
ubottuFor discussion on Microsoft Windows, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents07:22
dr_willisi will wait for Service Pack 1 for Ubuntu Intrepid07:23
DreadKnightis there a a way to upgrade distro from 32 bits to 64 ? xD an easy way?07:23
dr_willisDreadKnight,  none that i know of.07:23
salohcindr_willis: I don't think they do those07:23
dr_willissalohcin,  :)07:23
salohcinDreadKnight: Recompile07:23
dr_williswe did get a Ubuntu 8.04.1 :) dosent that count as a service pack?07:24
salohcinTHat's LTS07:24
salohcinand that's mostly because they shipped a beta Firefox and had to have some way to say we are all final software now07:24
dr_williseven with the 8.04.1 - a clean install has quite a bit of updates/upgrades  right from the start.07:24
dr_willisI wonder if they will have a 8.04.2 with all teh updates07:25
dr_willisI noticed that 8.04.1 installed. it said i had 'updates aviailable' and that machine had not even BEEN connected to the internet yet..  yes.. it said it had updates.. befor it even could check for updates.07:25
dr_willisStill not sure how it did that..07:25
surgydr_willis: you have any experience messing with regedit with wine? i know its a tad off topic, but do you mind looking over this, i think i might be missing a key or and exclude library, http://pastebin.com/m4f07acee07:26
dr_willisIve rarely used regedit, other then to follow some guides/delete junk07:26
dr_williswine output/errors like that are all gibbretish to me.07:27
dr_willisI do need to get that game.. someday.. when i find it on sale07:27
surgywell its an amazing game, and i had it working..... before spore lured me into its trap of empty promises, and there was a semi easy fix for my problem, its complaining about my video card not having enough vertex shaders.07:29
dr_willisI spend all day hanging in IRC = n times for games..07:29
dr_willisas for Spore.. at least it DOES run on my rather low end laptop. :) after i tuned the video settings all the way down...07:29
dr_willisIts about the only recent game - that can run.. other then those casual popcap games..07:30
dr_willisSpore does win the 'most over hyped game of the year' award.07:30
dr_willisand 'biggest dissapointment'07:30
surgyyep07:32
surgyand the creators are amazing, but very limited. and sortof clumsy07:32
tony_Testing 1,2,3, Newbie 1st time.  Sorry.  DOES KUBUNTU BOINC MANAGER FOR SETI HAVE GRAPHICS ENABLED?07:33
tony_boinc up and running doing work.  show graphics is "greyed out"07:34
dr_willissurgy,  Hmm.. speaking of games.. heres a 'gun' controller for FPS games.. :) looks... scary  http://www.tomahawktko.com/cart/index.php?main_page=page&id=32&chapter=0&gclid=CNmVque7j5YCFQIWFQod8lGGEg#crysis07:34
DreadKnightbbl07:35
tony_testing 12307:35
dr_willistony_,  you may have to install some extra packages... i recall there being a seti/boinc wiki page07:35
tony_Thank  you Dr.07:37
trigg3rhey guys! I am really new to kubuntu and i know that i am going to feel really dumb after asking this, but i am trying to download a color theme from kde-look.org and i have the file downloaded and unzipped, i just cannot figure out how to use it!!07:52
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Widget_anyone alive ?07:52
dr_willistrigg3r,  often you run the theme/color selecting tool.. and just drag/drop it onto the  window for the tool and it might load it.07:53
dr_willisWidget_,  yes.07:53
Widget_just having some issues installing in kubuntu.. i downloaded the ATI driver for linux but it's opening as a Text document07:54
dr_willis!ati07:54
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:54
trigg3rdr_willis: when i download the file and unzip it, it is a bunch of files, when i point to the directory in the import color scheme section, it says it is looking for a file07:54
dr_willisthe FIRST thing you shoudl try to do - is use the hardware-manager/driver-,manager tool  and let It install tose drivers07:54
Widget_thanx :)07:54
dr_willistrigg3r,  ive rarey messed witht he color stuff..  it could be theres more to that package then what you think07:55
trigg3rhere is the link if that helps...  http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Ultra+pack+-+220+color+schemes?content=7281107:55
trigg3ri think i need to run something in terminal07:56
trigg3rat the top of that site, it says extract to $home/.kde/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes07:56
dr_willisfrom that name.. it seems its 220 color schemes.. :)07:56
trigg3rohhh!!! i am such an idiot07:57
trigg3ri get it07:57
* dr_willis wonders hoe many color cschemes people need.08:01
dr_willis:)08:01
geek640 colour schemes should be enough for anyone08:01
geek;)08:01
Widget_hmm.. just checked the system settings, looks like an ATI driver is already installed08:01
dr_willisgeek the comments on that  kde-look ultrapack thing.. mentuon a way to get several thousane color schemes.. or somthing.. :) not sure what they are talking about08:04
DarkriftXhow do you start knetworkmanager?08:04
DarkriftXknet<tab> isnt finding anything08:04
dr_williscolourlovers.com08:04
dr_willis 08:04
geekdr_willis: in my case its a joke08:05
geek640 k should be enough for anyone? ;p08:05
dr_willisBut this is serious. :)08:05
dr_willisWe MUST have more color schemes!08:05
andriijaswhich is the easiest way to configure a xorg for a 40" lcd monitor?08:05
Widget_another thing.. i dloaded firefox, though it was an archived file, i extracted it onto desktop but cant seem to find he installation file to install08:05
dr_willisThis is critital to national security. ;p08:05
dr_willisWidget_,  you are doing things the windows way....08:05
dr_willisWidget_,  firefox is  in the repositories.. and can be installed with the packagve manager tool08:06
trigg3rdr_willis: i have one other question for you... I am using compiz (for the cube) and anytime i change display settings in the main appearance section, it gives me an error that says, "the application KWD crashed and caused the signal 11(SIGSEGV)" I can fix it by running the command "compiz --replace" and i have seen where i can make a desktop icon to run that command. is there anyway to fix it permanently?08:06
dr_willisno need to go to any site and download it.08:06
dr_willistrigg3r,  othe then dont use compiz,, or dont use the cube.. :) no idea08:06
frybyehow to purge system of all versions of an application (skype for example) including the manually installed stuff??08:06
trigg3rlol08:06
dr_willisthere is that   fusion-icon tool that might help trigg3r08:06
dr_willis!info firefox08:07
ubottufirefox (source: firefox-3.0): meta package for the popular mozilla web browser. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.3+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1 (hardy), package size 64 kB, installed size 120 kB08:07
DarkriftXsudo apt-get install firefox-3.008:07
Widget_hmm.. ic... i been using windows whole life lol, not use to linux install08:07
DarkriftXWidget_,  sudo apt-get install firefox-3.008:07
dr_willisWidget_,  the reposiutories and the package manager tools are our friend. :)08:07
grendal_primeanyone any good with bluetooth stuff?08:07
dr_willisthey make it so we dont have to do the windows song and dance to download/install things08:07
Widget_ive only used suse b4.. whats the app called to open the repos ? or do i just type in command windows ?08:08
DarkriftXWidget_,  sudo apt-get install firefox-3.008:08
trigg3rdr_willis: would that be in installer?08:08
grendal_primeim able to send things to my phone np, but i want to send some images to the laptop from the phone. i just get cannot connect to device08:08
trigg3rdr_willis: i found it!08:09
grendal_primephone is a treo60 os dist is kubuntu, machine is a delll inspiron142008:09
dr_willisWow - i now have 220+ color schemes. :)08:09
trigg3rdr_willis: you seem to know alot about linux and kubuntu, what do you think of opensuse?08:10
geeklol08:10
dr_willistrigg3r,  not used suse or any rpm based disrto in years.08:10
geektrigg3r: considering the channel...08:10
* geek hated the package manager when i used 10.1 ;p08:11
italiano_hola08:11
dr_willisAll disrtos are tools..   so use the ones that do what you want.. and toss the others.. :)08:11
grendal_primesusy blows chuncks..the reinvent everything as far as administration tools.08:11
geeklol08:11
* geek is an apt/smart affectionado08:11
dr_willisIts gotten where the main differance these days in disrto . are just the 'specilized tools they include'08:11
italiano_alguien k hablaaaa español08:11
italiano_o italiano08:11
dr_willisor the silly tweaks they do to gnome/kde08:11
andriijasanyone who knows how i can change the hz on my display resolution?08:12
trigg3rgeek: yeah yeah i am just trying to get opinions, pretty much everyone has said ubuntu and kubuntu, but i heard opensuse today and really have ne idea what the difference is except that kubuntu is more "user friendly"08:12
geektrigg3r: I used to use it. VERY polished KDE, very user friendly. package manager sucks ;p08:12
italiano_can you  tell me about de kubuntu08:13
geeki liked it ;p08:13
geek!de08:13
ubottuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de08:13
Tybear241083hi people. I am not using kubuntu but ubuntu but I thought maybe someone in here is able to shed some light on my problem.08:13
geektrigg3r: best place to ask is their own channel though08:13
trigg3rgeek: you know how you can ( i don't know the word for it but like now when i log in i can choose between kde3 and kde4 and ubuntu)? can you do that with opensuse08:14
Tybear241083I am trying to get my sound and my graphics to work properly but I have no Idea how to install the drivers08:14
geektrigg3r: you can do that with ANY distro actually08:14
Tybear241083I have got what I think are the right ones from the manufacturer for linux but they just seem unable to run08:14
trigg3rcool08:14
geekTybear241083: need a little more details i'd think08:15
Tybear241083[geek] k... what do you need08:15
Tybear241083??08:15
geekTybear241083: well, if its something someone has come across they might know08:16
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geekbut you'd need to say what graphics card/sound card for that ;p08:16
Tybear241083[geek]  I have been searching but can't find anything to go on on the internet. I have NVIDIA 7050/nforce 610i chipsets with intel core2duo and a biostar mother board08:17
Widget_sry guys, where do i type in "sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0", im in Adept Manager atm08:17
Tybear241083UBUNTU found graphics drivers and I enabled them but the problem is I am very irritatingly got only 800X600 resolution08:18
dr_willis!terminal08:18
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal08:18
yad__Hi how do you get external hard disks to work08:18
dr_willisWidget_,  in the Konsole terminal window08:18
dr_willisWidget_,  close out adept.. OR use adept and serach for 'firefox-3'08:19
dr_willistheres always 12+ ways to do somthing in linux...08:19
dr_willisactually just searching for 'firefox' should show firefox3 and firefox208:19
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Widget_ah yep, awesome, thnx guys :008:21
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Widget_:)*08:21
Widget_and lastly,  Tcl/Tk (i think its called).. does that come pre-installed in kubuntu ? according to amsn site, it said it's needed in order to be installed08:23
Tybear241083anyone got NVIDIA chipsets on their PC? I am having problems getting 5.1 sound and anything better than 800X600 resolution on my screen08:23
Naomariki just switched from kde4 to gnome and it's way better ;)08:25
Naomarikmuch faster08:25
yad__Hi i have two questions08:26
yad__The first one is how i find my external harddisk08:26
Widget_i used gnome once cause the name of it attracted me.. but then i tried kde and found it more comfortable :p08:29
geekWidget_: install amsn through the repos ;p08:30
Widget_ya, was gonna look there, but thought just incase, ide ask bout that tcl/tk :)08:30
Widget_!ati08:32
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:32
Tybear241083ubotto: thanks!! that might help me..... not sure if I have been there yet but thanks08:36
coral_hi, my wireless modem works fine with wvdial, but not with kppp, does anyone know why that would be?08:37
coral_kppp is "unable to open modem"08:37
Ayabaraanyone know how I can delete all my wlans, so gnome and kde network managers act like they find them for the first time?08:37
coral_but I would prefer to use kppp as it puts network icon in tray, and minimises to tray08:37
geekAyabara: you can delete them from kwallet08:38
Widget_bleh.. i only got a radeon 9200 in my PC :S08:43
coral_anyone know why kppp wouldnt work when wvdial does?08:43
Widget_thought i had a 9550.. must be another card in my room :(08:43
Widget_ok, im off.. thanx for ur help guys :) *wave*08:46
eagles051387can an lvm be crerated after u have setup ur machien with one hard drive or does it have to be done during installation of kubuntu08:46
fgarceseduardohello, i've just installed kubuntu 8.04.1 on my aspire one08:47
aomegax4hi08:47
fgarceseduardobut i can't make the wifi work!, I've installed the madwifi driver  but nothig08:47
fgarceseduardoany idea?08:47
eagles051387fgarceseduardo: i have see a good number of people have issues with madwifi driver08:48
aomegax4how can I convert flac to mp3? which program can I use?08:48
fgarceseduardoeagles: but as far as i know is the only way to use the wifi on the aspire one08:49
fgarceseduardoand also i have another problem, etc/modules doesn't allow me to edit it08:50
fgarceseduardoin order to put ath_pci08:50
Ayabarageek: but do you know in which folder the info can be found=08:53
Ayabara?08:53
coral_anyone know why kppp doesnt work when wvdial does?08:53
fgarceseduardoyes08:53
geekAyabara: er,, no, i just deleted the knetworkmanager keys from kwallet and it was taken care of ;p08:54
simon_Hello09:18
simon_my wirless dosn't seem to work it dosn't start as root09:18
eagles051387simon_: in konsole run lspci and let me know what kinda wifi card you got09:28
eagles051387why does wine now come with internet explorer09:28
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Frekubecause its the killer app  :)09:30
simon_my card is an "Atheros Hardware Access Layer (HAL)" or Support for Atheros 802.11 wirless LAN cards09:30
simon_it stand "it in use" but dosn't seem to work09:31
Sa[i]nTI got an Atheros card.09:34
eagles051387Sa[i]nT: is it working for ya09:34
Sa[i]nTeagles051387: Of course. What seems to be wrong with yours?09:35
eagles051387Sa[i]nT: not mine its simon_09:35
simon_???09:35
Sa[i]nTWhat's wrong with it?09:35
eagles051387simon_: he wants to know whats wrong with ur card09:36
simon_it dosn't start in root09:36
simon_and i can't administrate it to!09:36
eagles051387simon_: does it start normally09:36
simon_No09:36
eagles051387as a normal user09:36
Sa[i]nTHmmm, using ndiswrapper?09:37
eagles051387Sa[i]nT: atheros uses the madwifi driver right09:37
simon_i think it dosn't is opperate whit the exe. system in kubuntu09:37
Sa[i]nTeagles051387: Yes. But it would seem that 8.04 worked out of the box.09:37
simon_ok09:37
simon_??? box?09:37
eagles051387Sa[i]nT: interesting i have seen a number of people have issues with it09:37
simon_hm...09:38
eagles051387simon_: it means it comes setup and works with out doing anything to it09:38
Sa[i]nTI mean, working with first install. Earlier versions I've had problems. Use madwifi and make sure you follow the directions.09:38
Sa[i]nTIs ath0 in iwconfig?09:38
simon_yes but i use a laptop09:38
simon_ath0?09:38
simon_how to download madwifi09:39
Sa[i]nTIt could be different. When you do iwconfig, does it show a wireless device?09:39
eagles051387simon_: can u wire urself to the network09:39
simon_w809:39
roozbehHow can i convert my NTFS partitions to ext3 format without missing my datas in kubuntu ?09:39
eagles051387roozbeh: u cant09:39
Sa[i]nThttp://madwifi.org/09:39
simon_lo        no wireless extensions.09:39
simon_eth0      no wireless extensions.09:39
Frekubackup data 1st ?09:39
eagles051387!pastebin | simon_09:39
ubottusimon_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:39
roozbeheagles051387: i am now in kubuntu 8.10 beta09:39
eagles051387roozbeh: on the live cd09:40
Sa[i]nTsimon_: Well, that means that your sys is'nt picking it up. You just need to install the driver and whatnot.09:40
roozbeheagles051387: and can not mount my ntfs partitions09:40
simon_no09:40
eagles051387roozbeh: is this the live cd you are currently on09:40
simon_what not?09:40
charlysjHOLAZZ09:40
simon_ok09:40
Sa[i]nTsimon_: Go to http://madwifi.org/ and download and install it. Follow directions, should fix it up.09:41
roozbehHow can do it on live cd ?09:41
simon_ok09:41
roozbeheagles051387: How can do it on live cd ?09:41
eagles051387roozbeh: whats ur native language09:41
roozbeheagles051387: persian09:41
eagles051387roozbeh: ill point ya to the persian channel if that would be easier for ya09:42
roozbeheagles051387: im in persian channels09:42
eagles051387roozbeh: ok09:42
roozbeheagles051387: but no body is online09:42
simon_it is zipped wher shud i add it?09:42
eagles051387roozbeh: normally what you do is just put the cd that has kubuntu off of it and boot onto it to test it out prior to installation09:43
eagles051387roozbeh: can you boot into ur windows partition09:43
Sa[i]nTsimon_: http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/FirstTimeHowTo09:44
budg_should be ok09:44
simon_um i dosn't use chipset can that be a problem?09:48
Sa[i]nTWhat you mean?09:48
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flowingfire2Hi everyone.  I'm running Kubuntu 8.04 -- the version with KDE 4.  I'm having trouble, because there is no "kconsole" anymore.  The SystemSettings panel has a feature where you should be able to engage auto-login.  However, it's all greyed out.  I can't even use it.  It says in the help that you need to press the "administrator mode" button, but there isn't one.  HELP!09:59
Tybear241083does anyone here know anything about changing screen resolution using x server or something like that?09:59
flowingfire2...10:00
* flowingfire2 guesses there are more people with questions than with answers here10:00
simon_exit10:02
lilbryanhi10:03
Tybear241083flowing fire: I tend to agree..... I am too much of a noob to help anyone......10:03
flowingfire2lol same here, Tybear10:04
eagles051387sup guys10:05
flowingfire2hi. :D10:05
eagles051387btw guys10:05
eagles051387!ot10:05
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!10:05
eagles051387thats the channel for any ot chat plz guys10:05
eagles051387is there anythign i can try and assist u guys with this morning10:05
kaggiohi all, is kubuntu 8.10.x86_64 live gonna run on a i386??? i just want to try the live on this i386 , when i'll install it will be on a x86_6410:05
eagles051387kaggio: no10:06
kaggiook thanks10:06
flowingfire2Well, Kubuntu w/ KDE 4 is a bit difficult to customize...  I need to be in "administrator mode" to change features in system settings, but there is not button for that.10:06
eagles051387kaggio: there are 2 options one for a 64bit system and then there is the other one for 32bit u want the first option10:06
eagles051387flowingfire2: try in kubuntu-kde4 channel10:07
flowingfire2k10:07
flowingfire2thx10:07
kaggioeagles051387, yes i know. i already have the 64bit version. it's just i can't turn the 64 laptop on until i flash the bios. (nvidia card problem). so i want to try it anyway. nevermind. i'll download the 386 version10:08
simon_???10:09
eagles051387kaggio: interesting when running kubuntu 64bit never had to flash my bios at all to get it to run10:09
kaggioeagles051387, do you even read what i say???10:09
eagles051387kaggio: ya what kinda card do you have10:09
kaggioi have to flash the bios for the nvidia problem10:09
kaggio8400m gs10:09
kaggiodell alread issued a new bios the very day the problem came out10:10
kaggioi have it here but i don't have a usb floppy yet10:10
kaggiobought the flopppy waiting for it to arrive10:10
eagles051387kaggio: gotcha10:10
kaggio=)10:11
eagles051387kaggio: what kinda issue you experiencing with ur video card10:11
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kaggioeagles051387, the video sometimes disappear... that's the first simptom. if you know the problem of these cards10:13
eagles051387kaggio: is it just specific to that card or even desktop cards10:14
Sa[i]nTkaggio: Does the vid turn blue or just nothing?10:14
kaggioSa[i]nT, the video disappear for few seconds. that's all atm. yesterday i turned the laptop off and decided to wait for bios upgrade10:14
kaggioeagles051387, afaik mobiles10:15
kaggioeagles051387, only 8400m and 8600m10:15
eagles051387kaggio: ok had me worried there for a min10:16
kaggioeagles051387, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVIDIA#Defective_mobile_video_adapters10:19
eagles051387kaggio: :)10:20
kaggio;)10:20
eagles051387kaggio: to clarify what x86_x64 means10:20
kaggioi know whatit means but go on10:20
kaggioyou might know better than me10:20
eagles051387kaggio: basically its a 64bit system with some packages that might not have been ported for a 64bit system yet10:20
eagles051387its for backward compatibility with older 32bit apps10:21
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kaggioeagles051387, i see thanks. anyway almost everything is still 32 XD; 64 it's a mirage for now. (at least on consumer intel/amd)10:23
eagles051387kaggio: not necessarily10:24
eagles051387i just built a beast of a rig10:24
kaggiowell you recompiled?10:24
eagles051387kaggio: im going to pst ya this is ot10:24
simon_Hi all10:37
simon_my boardcom wirless dosn't seem to work10:37
eagles051387simon_: thought u had an atheros10:38
simon_yes10:38
simon_i have10:38
eagles051387u said broadcom above10:39
simon_mhm10:40
eagles051387simon_: im confused lol10:40
etfbJust installed a game called criticalmass and the graphics on the menu are broken.  I'm sure that's happened on previous distros too (I'm on Hardy now).  Does this sound familiar to anyone?10:40
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mynamehelp my wirless dosn't work ath0 is missing10:45
mynameatheros 802.1110:45
etfbmyname: There are about a million things that could be wrong.  What steps have you taken so far?10:46
mynamelocked at the root startup and it dosn't start at root10:46
etfbOK, start at the beginning.  What version of Kubuntu are you on?10:47
mynamei have downloaded atheros hardware access layer (HAL) and Aupport for Atheros 802.11 wirless lan cards10:47
mynamever?10:47
mynamehow to cheak it my ver.?10:48
etfbGutsy, Hardy, Intrepid, etc.10:48
mynameKDE or something10:49
bazhang!version10:49
ubottuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -rc » in a !shell10:49
geekanyone knows if there's any way to save in nano without quitting?10:50
myname8.04 Hardy10:50
etfbbazhang: Cool, I always wondered that...10:50
mynameRelease:        8.0410:50
mynameCodename:       hardy10:50
etfbmyname: Next question: did you upgrade from the previous version, or did you do a clean install?10:51
mynamei installed from a Iso DVD i made on my other computer Vista10:51
etfbmyname: So this is your first time with Ubuntu?10:52
mynameyes it is my first time on kubuntu10:52
etfbmyname: That makes it easier.  It means that you don't need to undo old mistakes. I never upgrade from old versions; the settings always get messed up.10:53
mynameok10:53
mynameso how to fix?10:53
etfbmyname: So: it used to be a Windows computer?  Or is it still dual-boot, half-and-half?10:53
mynamedual prossesor10:54
mynameintal Pentium dual-core inside10:54
etfbDo you know the meaning of "dual boot"?  I'm assuming you're Norwegian, right?  I'm not sure how technical I can get and still be understood.10:55
mynameoh it is an acer computer10:55
mynameyes im form Norway10:56
mynameem... i think soo10:56
bazhang!no10:56
ubottuHvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!10:56
mynameskall jeg stikke til #ubuntu-no10:56
mynameshod i go?10:56
tamerhello everyone10:57
mynameetfb?10:57
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etfbmyname: There are probably more people on #kubuntu than there are on #ubuntu-no.10:57
tameri keep getting "RETR command did not succeed. Error retrieving a message. Mail server localhost responded:negative vibes from me@myaddress." on using thunderbird to retrieve my hotmailaccount emails10:58
mynameok10:58
tameryea,,, and i have installed the hotmail plug ins for tb10:58
etfbmyname: And your English is good enough; might as well keep trying here.  I can help a bit, and others will help if we can find out what is happening.10:58
mynameok10:58
etfbmyname: Feel free to say "please explain" if you don't understand.  It's better than guessing.10:59
mynamethat's is understood10:59
mynamehehe yes10:59
etfbNow: are you using a laptop or a desktop?10:59
mynamelaptop10:59
etfbAnd it's an Acer, is it?  When did you install Kubuntu?11:00
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WidgetKaffeine keep trying to install a codec pack but then gets and error saying it's already installed.. it keep trying though.11:00
tamercls11:01
tamerhello there11:01
etfb!medibuntu>Widget11:01
ubottuWidget, please see my private message11:01
etfb!medibuntu>me11:01
ubottuetfb, please see my private message11:01
mynameyes an acer. i installed kubuntu when i klick-ed on restore to factory but it walk't longer then that it lost windows11:02
etfbmyname: So: Windows is not on your laptop now?  Only Kubuntu?11:02
mynameyes11:03
etfbDid the wireless work when you had Windows?11:03
mynameyes11:04
etfbWhen you press Alt+F2, do you get a dialog box with the title "Run Command"?11:05
mynameyes11:05
Widgetsilly question, but, how do i see what version of Kubuntu I have ? havn't used this in a whlie11:06
etfbType knetworkmanager and press Enter.  Be careful of spelling.11:06
mynameyes11:06
mynameand it dosn't happen anything11:07
etfbWidget: bazhang just told me that -- I never knew.  It's lsb_release -rc   in a shell, of course.11:07
bazhangerr -a11:07
bazhangalso !version if you forget :)11:07
Widgetthnx guys =)11:08
mynameok11:08
bazhangetfb, ^^ :)11:08
etfbmyname: Look at the icons on the bottom right of your screen11:08
mynameok11:08
mynamei have a box that is for internett11:08
etfbmyname: Right click.  See if it lists any wireless access points.11:09
mynamenow!11:09
mynameit isn't there11:09
Widget!medibuntu11:09
ubottumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org11:09
etfbmyname: My dinner's ready, so I have to go.  I suggest asking on the Norwegian list too.  I'll be back later to see how you go.11:10
mynameok11:11
mynamei doing it11:11
Widgetcrap.. my adept crashed now won't go back in.. i try apt-get commands like the error message says to but doesn't work11:18
jussi01!aptfix | widget11:20
ubottuwidget: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »11:20
jussi01Widget: tried that?11:20
Widgetdid, but just opened a new line11:21
Widgetnothing appeared on screen11:21
jussi01Widget: what exactly did you put?11:22
Widgetjussi01: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a11:22
jussi01and adept still doesnt start?11:22
Widgetnope11:23
jussi01what is the error message from adept?11:23
Widget"The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem."11:23
jussi01so have you run apt-setup and apt-get update?11:24
jussi01youll need to run those with sudo11:24
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Widgetsudo apt-setup ?11:24
jussi01yep11:25
Widgetsudo: apt-setup: command not found11:25
Widgetthis is within konsole isnt it ?11:25
jussi01yes11:25
Widgethmm11:25
jussi01thats weird. so what does apt-get update return?11:26
Widgetsame message with sudo apt-update11:26
jussi01which is?11:26
Widget"sudo: apt-update: command not found"11:27
jussi01no, what about: sudo apt-get update11:27
Widget"E: Type 'sudo' is not known on line 56 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list"11:27
Widgetthats from sudo apt-get update11:28
jussi01hrm, you are running these in terminal? and its not a root terminal?11:28
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Widgetnot sure bout root.. i just went k-menu > system > Konsole - Terminal program11:29
jussi01hrm, thatws really weird.11:29
jussi01and you have a default kubuntu install?11:29
jussi01what does plain apt-get update return?11:30
Widgeti think so.. ive added a couple programs though.. VLC and firefox11:30
Widget" E: Type 'sudo' is not known on line 56 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list "11:30
jussi01Widget: hrm, sounds like your sources list is broken11:31
Widgeti was trying to add a repo for medibuntu.. then it broke11:31
jussi01Wicked: ok, opent the sources list and remove whatever you added11:31
jussi01I know the problem now11:32
jussi01Wicked: sorry, that was for Widget11:32
Widgetah11:32
Widgetlol11:33
Widgetok, how do i open sources ? apt-get source ?11:33
jussi01no11:33
jussi01sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list11:33
Widgetim not sure i added any though...11:34
Widgeti tried.. but i dont think i added the repo line properly11:34
jussi01Widget: it sounds like you did.11:34
jussi01Widget: is there a line starting with sudo there?11:35
Widgetjussi01: not that i can see11:35
Widgetoh.. sec11:36
jussi01Widget: ok, can you copy the contents and pastebin the file for me11:36
Widgetyes.. and its for medibuntu11:36
jussi01make the konsole window full screen :)11:36
Widgetya :p11:36
Widgetjussi01: sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/source$11:36
Widgetoops.. sef11:36
Widgetsec*11:36
jussi01Widget: remove that whole line11:36
Widgetdont think i pasted right11:36
derin.11:37
jussi01Widget: so do tis exactly, remove that line you paste to me, press ctrl+x then y and then enter.11:37
Widgetjussi01: just by highlighting and [del] ?11:38
Widgetoh. yep sed11:38
jussi01Widget: no, you need to do it only by arrow keys11:38
jussi01and delete11:38
Widgetits asking me to "File Name to Write"11:40
jussi01Widget: and it has one there, right?11:40
jussi01just press enter if so11:40
Widgetlooks like, ye[11:40
Widgetyep*11:40
Widgetok, enetreed11:41
jussi01Widget: now do: sudo apt-get update11:41
Widgetlist is gone and went back to normal terminal screen11:41
Widgetk11:41
Widgetnup.. "E: Type 'sudo' is not known on line 112 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list"11:41
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myname#ubuntu-no11:42
jussi01Widget: seems as though you didnt delet e it properly, lets try this a little different11:42
Widgethmm.. ya.. i went back to the list and its still there11:42
jussi01do this: kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list11:42
jussi01its easier this way11:43
Widgetoh.. GUI ?11:43
stephanehello11:44
Widgetk... its running11:44
Widgetsources.list kate window is open11:44
stephanepetite question pour installer un driver wifi de broadcom 432211:44
stephanequand je suis la procédure qui se trouve ici : http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/README.txt11:45
stephanemake -C /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/build M='pwd'11:45
stephaneme renvoie systématiquement l'erreur suivante11:45
jussi01!fr11:46
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr11:46
stephanescuse me11:46
stephanesp I re explain in my poor english :)11:46
jussi01Widget: so now please remove that line and save/close11:46
jussi01stephane: just /join #kubuntu-fr11:46
stephaneI try to get my Dell Studio Wifi functionning11:46
Widgetjussi01: ok, done11:47
jussi01Widget: noe sudo apt-get update :)11:47
stephanewhen I run as it said to do the command : scripts/Makefile.build:41: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-19-generic/pwd/Makefile: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type11:47
jussi01now*11:47
stephanewhy I can't make the wifi module ?11:48
Widgetok.. cool, it went through and did a bunch of updating stuff.. though at the end it says "W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org hardy Release: The following signatu                   res couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC                   26B60C5A2783"11:48
zapata_bonjour, j'arrive à pinguer www.google.fr en console (par exemple) mais impossible de l'ouvrir avec Konqueror.. Pourquoi ?11:48
jussi01!fr | zapata_11:49
ubottuzapata_: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr11:49
zapata_ok ! sorry !11:49
Widgetjussi01: can load into Adept now.. thanks heaps :D11:50
jussi01Widget: ok, could you run that kdesudo command again and pastebin me the contents of that sources list?11:50
jussi01ok :)11:50
Widgetok, sec11:50
jussi01Widget: nevermind actually11:50
xbxbDo I need the alternate CD if I want my whole system encrypted (except a small /boot partition) right from the start or can I do this with the desktop live CD?11:50
Widgetus ure ?11:50
Widgetu sure*11:51
jussi01Widget: just run: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update11:51
jussi01Widget: remember to close adept11:51
zapata_hello, I try to use Konqueror but it not work fine....11:51
zapata_I can ping www.google.fr, for example on console but nothing in Konquetor... Why ?11:52
Widgetjussi01: ok, installed the medibuntu-keyring then did the update.11:53
jussi01Widget: so you should be fine to go back to work now :)11:56
Widgetyup, thanks heaps :D11:56
jussi01Widget: you are most welcome :)11:58
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andypls1hi12:11
cath_is there any way to follow windows links (*.lnk files) in samba shares?12:16
TuTUXGhey i got this error when i try to run ./configure to build a program from src : in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE libraries installed. This will fail.12:16
TuTUXGSo, check this please and use another prefix!12:16
TuTUXGanyone can help?12:16
cath_TuTUXG: is there a readme or install.txt file with instructions?12:19
TuTUXGcath_, let me see12:20
TuTUXGcath_, no it's not on the README file, i will try this:  export KDELIBS=/usr/lib/kde3 && ./configure --prefix=/usr12:23
TuTUXGand it fails too..12:23
DexterFhi12:29
DexterFis there an 8.10 iso?12:29
TuTUXGcath_, nvm i will just extract the binary from deb file12:30
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stephanebye12:52
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anbuhai guys12:57
anbuam new to kubuntu12:57
TheGentlemanHello, I cant understand the way Kubuntu (8.04 with KDE 3.5.10) manages an external screen on a laptop. Made a few attempts, but only screwed  my Xorg settings (now restored)    can anyone help?13:00
Thorman compiz13:03
Thorooppss, sorry13:04
DexterFTheGentleman: gpu vendor?13:06
TheGentlemannvidia13:06
TheGentlemanusing restricted drivers13:06
DexterFhmmm. nope, no clue. I know it's possible, but dunno how. #nvidia perhaps?13:07
TheGentlemani will give a try. Thanks for your attention DexterF13:08
DexterFyw13:08
whileimhereHi I have upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10. What is the kde desktop for this one is it 4.0 or 4.1?13:13
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chfwiggum!de13:36
ubottuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de13:36
boritekhello, how can i make less work with moushewheel-scrolling in konsole ???13:50
boritekless cant be mousewheel-scrolled in Konsole!13:50
boritekhow can is make it able to do that?13:50
ultragexпривет всем13:56
JackWinterhi, no matter what i try i can't get rid of the problem with kded racing and consuming many resources.  if i create another user account and login, then the problem has gone away.  so i think i can exclude it being a kernel/hardware issue.  i've managed to mess up something in kde.  am using kde 3.5.9 (kubuntu 8.04).  i guess the only thing remaining is to create a new login and transfer the data i need.  how do i migrate kontact/kmail and my14:21
JackWinterkonqueror bookmarks ?  i think the rest of the enviroment i can setup again with no big problems.14:21
Dragonathfrom what I understand, all user related stuff is in your home folder14:22
Dragonathin hidden subfolders14:22
Dragonathmaybe you will find your bookmarks and e-mails there14:22
JackWinteryeah, i get the same understanding14:22
Dragonathand then it's just a matter to copy and past14:22
Dragonathpaste*14:22
Dragonathin fact if you just copy the konqueror and kmail folders it should be enough14:23
DragonathI'm no expert though14:23
DragonathI've never done this14:23
JackWinterwas hoping someone would tell me the exact location or provide a link :)  thanks in anycase, gonna go browse the disk...14:23
Dragonathwell if you're feeling adventrous you can grep in your home folder for a link that's in your bookmarks or an e-mail14:24
Dragonathand see what files they are in14:24
DragonathI have a question as well14:27
DragonathI installed the kde multimedia package or something named similar to that, now I have a bunch of multimedia editing apps, which is really nice, however doesn't that package include a kernel as well?14:27
Dragonathlooking in menu.lst I see "Ubuntu 8.04.1, kernel 2.6.24-19-rt".. is that it?14:28
JackWinterdon't know.  i think that is the last -rt kernel in the repositories.  shure you didn't install it yourself ?14:31
DragonathI usually don't install kernels by myself14:33
DragonathI just update them when adept manager tells me that a new one is out14:33
JackWinterstill not sure of the usefulness of the rt kernel for multimedia.  i am using the -16-rt kernel.  is the one that works the best for audio apps for me.  the .19 behaves erratic here.  they say that that the .27 kernel and a new xorg are gonna solve many problems.14:33
maximechaud :noel:14:34
JackWinteri suppose that a -rt kernel might have been deemed nescessary for the multimedia apps...14:34
Dragonathwell multimedia aps need a low latency kernel from what I hear14:34
Dragonathbut I've recorded okay with the current kernel as well14:34
Dragonathmaybe I'm not very picky :)14:35
maximedoes anyone speak french here? =$14:35
Dragonath!fr14:36
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr14:36
JackWinterdepends on how low latency you want.  (for audio).  i have managed to run a wine app at over 90% cpu usage with the 16-rt kernel.  but i have to do some other tricks too to pull it off :)14:36
kaggioJackTop, Dragnslcr : -rt stands for realtime latency14:36
guerrier-cachalosomeone's here ?14:36
kaggiono14:36
guerrier-cachalook.14:36
guerrier-cachaloA little problem happened for several time14:37
guerrier-cachaloWhen I want the computer to hibernate, he say : error ........ kbd 914:38
JackWinterkaggio: it's more a realtime kernel containing some patches making task switching work better14:38
Dragonathwhat are the drawbacks of the -rt kernel?14:39
Dragonathis there anything that can go seriously wrong if I switch?14:39
ubuntu_help14:39
guerrier-cachalono14:39
JackWinternone that i know of.  possibly higher overhead which might be a problem on slower computers.  like i said for multimedia i have the best result with -16-rt14:40
kaggioJackWinter, yes; Dragonath not at all14:40
ubuntu_why14:40
guerrier-cachalojuste when I reboot, he can't14:40
guerrier-cachaloI need to re-reboot :)14:40
JackWinterDragonath: don't think you will have any problems.  i can boot a plain or -rt kernel while running prop nvidia drivers.  seems to work fine.14:40
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zydashello14:41
JackWinterhave installed vbox which has kernel modules too, and all seems to work well.14:41
Dragonathok thanks14:41
JackWinterDragonath: in case of problems you can always boot with the old kernel...14:42
wesley_Where can i ask Kubuntu to pack Kdenlive ?14:44
kaggioit should be there. i have it on debian sid.14:45
andypls1http://demo.roopletheme.com/newsflash/14:45
wesley_i mean the kde4 version14:46
kaggiommm iirc i have kde4 version, can't check now, i'm not on debian14:47
wesley_i use kubuntu 8.0414:49
wesley_last timd i checked repo no kde4 version14:49
zydashi, anybody resolved zd1211rw lockup ?14:51
RurouniJoneswesley_: http://www.kdenlive.org/node/1314:52
sancho21When I play an mp3, which one is contacted first? alsa, or audiopulse?14:52
RurouniJonesYou can be sure there will be a news announcement when the port is close14:52
wesley_They release the beta tomorrow14:53
peacehow to unrar files?? i was trying to instal un-rar free via synaptic but it becomes a zombie process.. :(14:54
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ari_stresshi guys15:30
ari_stressanyone using kde4.1? why i cannot adjust the fonts in menu, they are all so big. see http://www.arinet.org/Screenshot99.png15:30
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avihaybari_stress:  you should ask in the kde 4 channle: KDE 4 support in #kubuntu-kde4 |15:32
ari_stressavihayb: yes, i'm there too15:33
amaliettaciao15:36
amalietta............15:40
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cgrandashallo15:42
cgrandasniemand da?15:43
stdin!de15:44
ubottuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de15:44
peacecan anyone tell me how to modify the k menu line ( whole bottom line ) in a way i want??? i just wanted to get original kmenu instead of kde4..and i messed up all line :D15:48
jwjust in the process of reinstalling.  what should be the broadcast ip?  the ip of this box is 192.168.0.315:50
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stdinjw: probably 192.168.0.25515:51
jwthanks stdin. that's what i though but wasn't entirely shure anymore15:52
stdinjw: it really depends on your netmask though15:52
Pensa`MIAanyone has a repo for koffice-kde4 hardy available?15:53
stdineg: IP: 192.168.0.3 with Netmask: 255.255.255.0 = Broadcast: 192.168.0.25515:53
Pensa`MIAnever mind, they are being worked on15:53
Pensa`MIAsorry15:53
jwstdin netmask is: 255.255.255.015:54
stdinjw: then 192.168.0.255 is right :)15:54
jwthanks, pity i can't open the manual network config anymore :)15:54
anton_Morning! Does anyone know how to install the kopete desklist from konsole+16:04
fgarceseduardohello, i need help, I've installed kubuntu 8.04.1 on my aspire, I0ve followed all the steps on the installation guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne, in fact everything goes ok, evn camera and sound, but not wifi?16:19
fgarceseduardoany idea for configuring the wifi? pleas i really need help16:20
Cracker_Jaxo/16:24
Freddy2hi16:27
Freddy2after asking firefox people it seems that ff's save dialog should me somehow OS dependent, so.. can i somehow customize it? i want to change the icons for the places, but i don't know where i should look for16:28
tzdhi guys! I'm thinking of upgrading to kde4.1 beta release (kubuntu 8.10). I currently have kubuntu 8.04 with kde 3.5.9 installed. I'm wondering if all my application settings etc will remain if i upgrade and if the upgrade will remove unecessary packages that i won't use?16:29
kout_d16:52
giuseppe_hello16:53
giuseppe_i have a litte problem with iphone and ubuntu.....16:53
kout_d16:53
giuseppe_how i make a wireless connection?16:53
giuseppe_i make an ad-hoc wireless connection from ubuntu........ but iphone don´t see it16:53
wsjunioris knetworkmanager supposed to be working in intrepid?16:54
giuseppe_i use wicd16:54
giuseppe_what is intrepid???16:55
kout_d16:55
fgarceseduardogiuseppe: the new version of ubuntu is teh  8.10 right now is on beta for test16:56
fgarceseduardocan someone help me with my wifi problem?16:57
giuseppe_so the problem is ubuntu?16:58
Farghanyone of U know how I can solve this small mistery ?  when I play a live radio in firefox works fine as lonf FF has the focus.  If I switch to another program, the sound stops16:58
Farghreturing back to FF, the music resumes16:58
jwwhat would be the standard location to mount extra partitions or what would be the best under kde, in /media or /mnt ?16:58
OutoLumojw, IRRC its /media17:04
OutoLumohms17:04
OutoLumohmh17:04
jussi01jw: usually automounted things go into /media and other random stuff that you mount, network shares, others go into /mnt (IMHO)17:08
DarkShinigamiHow do I delete junk from my desktop? I deleted a few Kubuntu ISO's from a separate internal drive and it seems to be sticking to my main hard drive and taking up space.17:17
stdinDarkShinigami: go to trash:/ in konqueror or dolphon and right-click -> empty trash17:19
pimwhen will the latest version of kde 3.5 be added to the repositories?17:20
stdinpim: you mean 3.5.10? it's in hardy-backports17:20
DarkShinigamistdin: Thank you. :)17:20
pimhow would I update using the backports?17:22
paddlerHi all, trying to get KDE 3.5 to recognise a Sony Walkman and put an icon on the desktop. I can maually mount it and write to it no problem, but can't figure out the missing link that would get KDE to create a desktop icon for it when plugged in.17:22
stdinpim: from Adept Manager, Adept -> Manage Repositories, Updates tab and click "Unsupported Updates"17:22
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pimdoes apt also have a cli parameter for this?17:23
stdinpim: you can edit your sources.list manually too add it17:24
pimah that would be nice17:24
pimlet me see17:24
pimthanks stdin17:25
trigg3rhey guys, does anyone know the command, that will let you be able to choose between kubuntu and ubuntu at the login screen... i tried sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop, but that didn't work.17:31
hairy918any iptables wizards here?17:33
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aik-kdeho18:00
kout_hihiugñi18:01
fgarceseduardotgger: i thouhgt is apt get gnome desktop18:01
fgarceseduardobut i'm not sure18:01
l3onhi all... someone can say me which is the name of this app -> http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=copyinggf9.png ???18:03
l3onI'd create a bug, but I don't know if it's dolphin or something else18:04
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SSJ_GZl3on: I think this bug might be at occurring at a level below Dolphin.  Give me a few minutes and I'll check ...18:05
l3onok :)18:05
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ubuntoilhello18:06
SSJ_GZl3on: It's in kwidgetjobtracker.18:07
anbuhi18:08
SSJ_GZl3on: The maintainer is not on IRC atm, but I'll ping him when I see him next and see if it's a known issue.18:08
l3onSSJ_GZ: ok, where can I open a new bug? on LP ?18:08
SSJ_GZl3on: LP?18:08
l3onLaunchPad18:08
SSJ_GZl3on: What version are you using? This bug may have been already fixed in trunk: http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=84659518:10
l3onSSJ_GZ: Kdebase Version: 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu1 (Intrepid)18:11
SSJ_GZl3on: It's probably not worth filing a bug, then, but if you do, include the websvn URL above and ask for a backport.18:12
l3onOk, but how do you understand what is the bug ? :D18:12
l3onYou are writing as you know it ! :D18:13
SSJ_GZl3on: I remember seeing someone mention it somewhere, and I just tracked down the fix :)18:14
l3onlol18:14
Tm_TSSJ_GZ: nice work, son18:15
l3onSSJ_GZ: so, I do not to ask to open a new bug ?18:15
SSJ_GZAnd that's the end of that chapter18:15
SSJ_GZl3on: It's up to you.18:15
l3on(the problem is very stupid, in the img posted some lines ago take a look to the remaning time)18:15
SSJ_GZl3on: Either way, it should be fixed in 4.2.18:16
l3onok18:16
l3onnp18:16
pimwhere would I find the correct line to add to my sources.list to include the backports for kubi?18:20
anbumovie\18:25
anbumovie link18:25
Sa[i]nTWhich movie?18:25
KRF!backports18:26
ubottuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging18:26
KRFpim ^18:26
pimYeah I already found it actually :) but thanks KRF18:27
pimAdept Updater gives me a whole list of Qt 4 things18:30
pimIs it trying to install KDE4?18:30
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trigg3rhey guys, i installed ubuntu using "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and it installed18:41
Speedyhy all18:43
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SpeedyI just inslaled kubuntu18:43
DallaShello18:43
SpeedyAnd my /mp3 dosen't works18:43
SpeedyI need some help18:44
pimhave you tried amarok?18:45
Sa[i]nTIf it's a fresh install. Have you installed the gstreamer packs yet?18:46
Sa[i]nTSo you can play .mp3 files.18:46
Speedyyup18:46
Speedyis working now18:46
Speedyhaded to restart it18:46
SpeedySo kbunto is 90% safer then windows?18:47
SpeedyNo viruses?18:47
CyDgstreamer packs? wouldn't kubuntu-restricted-extras be easier?18:47
CyDthat way you get mp3, flash, java, etc..18:47
afeijoits possible that every cron I have, send the output to a different email?18:47
Sa[i]nTSpeedy: Virii for linux would be tricky. And everyone is like focused on destroying windows.18:47
Speedywow I need java to18:47
Speedywill it auto dld?18:47
CyDi'd do the above mentioned package, unless someone has a better suggestion18:48
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CyDmy post-install usually involves firefox, kubuntu-restricted-extras, and medibuntu report for libdvdcss2+w32codecs18:48
CyD*repo18:48
SpeedyWhat's with destop 1 and 2?18:50
trigg3rhey guys, i installed ubuntu using "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and it installed, now i want to get rid of it, so i used "sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop"  However, the install package was like 800MB and the remove package was only 53 k.  i also noticed that all of the gnome programs are still there, do i have to remove all of them manually?18:51
Tm_T!purekde18:51
ubottuIf you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »18:51
CyDSpeedy: once you're used to multiple desktops (workspaces), you won't be able to live without em :)18:52
Tm_T!fi | Teisei18:53
ubottuTeisei: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi18:53
TeiseiHuh? Tm_T, that wasn't necessary18:53
SpeedyWhat's with destop 1 and 2?18:54
Tm_TTeisei: I know, just wanted to point out18:54
CyDSpeedy: umm my above comment...18:54
TeiseiTm_T: Thanks, but I already know18:54
Tm_TTeisei: good, yw18:55
Speedycool18:55
trigg3ri used the site that the bot recommended and it doesn't seem to have worked! can anyone help18:56
SpeedyBut I can't find java18:56
Tm_T!java | Speedy18:56
ubottuSpeedy: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper18:56
SpeedyI use kubuntu18:56
SpeedyAnd my 1st impresion18:56
Speedyis theat is cooler then windows18:56
Tm_TSpeedy: Kubuntu is Ubuntu18:57
Speedyooo :D18:57
SpeedyI can't make it18:59
Speedyi can't see fromm where to install it18:59
jesus_Hi18:59
CyDSpeedy: please install 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' from your add/remove programs. it includes the lastest greatest java18:59
CyD!kubuntu-restricted-extras18:59
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:59
Speedy:D18:59
SpeedyCyd u a OP?19:00
angelooi19:00
CyDSpeedy: nope19:00
angeloboa tarde19:00
angeloalguem sabe como usar o asmn?19:00
Speedywhere can I find theat thing?19:00
DallaSis there any way to use different wallpapers for the multi backgrounds?19:01
CyDSpeedy: if you click on the K menu, you should see 'Add/Remove Programs'19:01
webasinteresting question dallas :)19:01
DallaSthat would be cool19:01
CyDthen use the search box in that program19:01
CyDDallaS: absolutely19:02
Speedycool19:02
SpeedyI think I will remove windows19:02
CyDwhen choosing wallpapers, click the dropdown that says 'All Desktops'19:02
Speedyhmmm19:03
trigg3ri installed kubuntu originally from the cd, and installed ubuntu using "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop". Now i am trying to uninstall ubuntu, and used "sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop" however it doesn't seem to have removed the ubuntu programs. from searching, i realized that i should have used aptitude instead of apt-get because it is easier to remove! so now i am trying to get rid of all of these gnome programs. can anyone tell19:03
trigg3rme the eadiest way to do so?19:03
Speedyif I use Serrch it crshes19:04
ubuntu!reinstall grub19:05
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about reinstall grub19:05
ubuntu!grub19:05
ubottugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto19:05
CyDtrigg3r: it seems like Tm_T had the best info for you19:05
SpeedyCyD19:06
SpeedyIf i type JAVA in the serch box19:07
Speedyit crashes19:07
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DallaSum i dont see what you are talking about19:07
DallaSabout the background19:07
zer0ohelp with WINE?19:07
CyDDallaS: kde3 or 4?19:07
Tm_T!wine | zer0o19:08
ubottuzer0o: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.19:08
trigg3rCyD: is !purekde a command for konsole?19:08
Tm_Ttrigg3r: nope19:08
CyDtrigg3r: no that prompted the bot to give you some info19:08
CyD!purekde19:08
ubottuIf you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »19:08
sal_ciao19:09
jussi01!it | sal_19:09
ubottusal_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)19:09
DallaSis anyone having problems with macomedia flash websites like youtube?19:09
DallaSi get this grey bax with a play button in the middle19:10
trigg3rCyD: ohhh! i tried that, and it doesn't seem to have worked, when i use the big long command under "remove ubuntu packages" konsole returns "E: Couldn't find package gconf-editorgdm"19:10
DallaSbox19:10
CyDDallaS: flash is ok here19:11
zer0oalright can somebody help with UFW ?19:12
kc8pxy_is there a good reason my window manager keeps crashing when i change desktop resolutions?  i get a crash window, and my window decorations go away.19:14
DallaSi dont know how to change wallpapers for multiple desktops19:17
trigg3rso once this purekde thing is done, am i going to have to reinstall some things for kubuntu?....it seems to be removing alot more then was installed19:18
wsjuniori got this error with qt-language-selector, could anybody help me with this? http://pastebin.com/m35f5bb6019:22
jwany reason for /mnt/sdb1 not being mounted at boot ?  the uuid is correct...  http://pastebin.ca/1220023  maybe access rights ?19:29
dr_willisis it a ntfs filesystem?19:31
jwno, it's an ext319:32
dr_willisi dont see an entry in that fstab for sdb119:32
dr_willislet me look again...19:32
dr_willisDouble check that fstab.... either im blind.. or theres no sdb1 in it.19:32
SpeedyI can't find my favorite networck chanel19:32
SpeedyAny one now duel masters mirc chnels?19:33
jwthe last line /mnt/sdb1  the dir exists in /mnt, is root:root and 75519:33
jwdr_willis: the uuid is correct19:33
jwi can mount it from system settings - advance - disk and filesystems (which in fact added the line)19:34
* dr_willis resizes his browser...19:34
dr_willisthere it is19:34
dr_willisthat fstab line has some issues...19:35
dr_willis UUID=9fc99740-3c81-4532-b091-fd336f59b08b /mnt/sdb1 auto nouser,noauto,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 019:35
dr_willissuch as using 'auto and noauto' in the options...19:35
dr_willisand you may want to set the filesystem type, not use 'auto'19:35
dr_willisNot sure what 'nouser' even does. :) i dont recall ever needing that..19:36
jwhehe it was created by kubuntu, half of it still is greek :)19:36
dr_willisand depending on what you keep on the disk,  noexec, and nodev, and nosuid - may not be what you want19:36
dr_willisI would stick with just 'defaults' for the options19:36
MrKennieisn't relatime better than atime? (speed wise)19:36
dr_willis UUID=9fc99740-3c81-4532-b091-fd336f59b08b /mnt/sdb1 ext3 defaults  0 019:37
dr_willisnormally ubuntu puts things in /media/ not /mnt  also. :)19:38
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jwok, so you would reccomend me to create the sdb1 in /media and use the line above ?19:39
jwwith /media/sdb1 :)19:40
MrKenniejw: you can use whatever name you like as a mount point19:43
SpeedyI can't instal the fuking java19:43
MrKennieSpeedy: please mind your language19:44
Speedysry19:44
SpeedyBut I am angry19:44
MrKennieSpeedy: what is the problem?19:44
jwMrKennie: yeah, but i'd prefer to do it the ubuntu way in ubuntu.  makes no big difference to me anyway.  used to have it mounted in my home, but thought since i share it with nfs here at home another mount point might be better19:45
MrKenniejw: :)19:45
Speedywhell19:46
Agent_bobon a low end 500mhz p3 box it takes about 4:42 to install windows 95 including the three reboots required.   is there a linux installer that can compare to that ?    even an old one?19:46
Speedyi can't make java working19:46
Agent_bobwhat's the max -m that tune2fs will accept ?    i was attempting to use -m 99  and all i get is "bad reserced block ratio"19:47
MrKennieSpeedy: at what point does java not work? Are you trying to install it? getting the plugin working? Explain.19:48
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Speedywhell this is hard19:49
Speedyit dld it19:49
MrKennieAgent_bob: you know, I find it hard to even compar anything to do with Linux with win 95 ;)19:49
Speedyand then it thells me it can't19:49
Speedy:P19:49
Speedylol19:49
SpeedyLinux is grate even then windows media center19:49
MrKennieSpeedy: what downloaded it? adept?19:49
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SpeedyHow can you comparr it to win95? :D19:50
Agent_bobMrKennie much easier to compair win95 to linux than any other windows  imo.19:50
Speedywhell19:50
MrKennieAgent_bob: nope, still stuck there, sorry ;)19:50
SpeedyI dld ....19:50
Speedywait19:50
Speedylet me get the wright names19:50
Agent_bobok according to my test " Q=100 ;until tune2fs -m $Q /dev/hda ;do Q=$(($Q-1)) ;done "   50% is the highest number that tune2fs will accept.19:51
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speedy__sry19:55
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MrKennieAgent_bob: I'm stuck on that one because they are two totally different things. And technically you could install linux on even less powerful hardware in less the time you did with win95. But anyway.19:56
Agent_bobMrKennie wasn't talking about the "power" was talking about the install time.20:00
MrKennieAgent_bob: so was I20:00
Agent_bobwhat installer will do that ?20:01
MrKenniedebian minimal20:01
MrKennieand ubuntu jeos20:01
Agent_bobwill install in less than 5 minutes ?   format to running ?20:01
MrKennieI've not timed it actually but its over very quickly. Next time i do it I will time it.20:02
Agent_bobhave a url to the installer (iso) ?20:02
MrKennie!jeos20:03
ubottuJeOS (pronounced "Juice") is Just enough Operating System.  It is an efficient variant of the Ubuntu Server operating system, configured specifically for virtual appliances. See http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/jeos for more information.20:03
jussi01!minimal20:03
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD20:03
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Agent_bob https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD  <<< doesn't  i've tried that.20:04
jussi01Agent_bob: also, tried dsl?20:05
jussi01dsl was great for me on a similar machine20:05
Agent_bobyes20:05
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ANDREAILHA20:06
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Agent_bobdsl is close, but about twice the time.  the self config process getting the system up and running is kinda slow.  the actual file copy process is very comparable.20:06
delilazHi all, I have a question.  My mouse seems to go crazy if I make any sudden moves with it, it works fine in Windows XP, any idea why this happens? It's an hp ps/2 mouse.20:11
Agent_bobwrong mouse protocal ?20:13
Agent_bobperhaps wrong mouse driver(module) in the kernel ?    should be psmouse20:14
Agent_boblsmod | grep psmouse20:14
BluDog_Anchoritewhats the command to make fsck clean a resiserFS ? I am getting filesystem NOT clean on boot.20:14
BluDog_Anchoritesystem boots, but I wonder if I can clean it.20:15
Agent_bobroot fs ?20:15
BluDog_Anchoritewell, being a single partiton, yes20:15
BluDog_Anchoriteim on the machine now.  old lappy.20:16
Agent_bobforce an fsck at boot.    ummm set the mount count above the max mount count20:16
BluDog_Anchoritei thought there was a command to force fsck on next boot20:16
Agent_bobthat will ^20:16
BluDog_Anchoritedidn't seem to see it in the man pages20:16
MrKenniesudo touch /forcefsck20:17
MrKenniethen reboot20:17
Agent_bobthat would be /etc/init.d/check[root,all]fs specific wouldn't it ?20:18
Agent_bobseems to be in  /etc/init.d/checkfs.sh  on dapper.20:19
BluDog_Anchoritei see checkfs.sh in init.d20:19
delilazhow do I check for the right mouse driver??20:21
Agent_boblsmod | grep mouse20:21
delilazdo I have to type that as super user?20:22
Agent_bobno20:22
delilazok thanks Agent_bob will check20:22
Agent_bobdelilaz you should also check the mouse protocal in /etc/X11/xorg.conf    "assuming you use that file"20:23
Agent_bobdevice core pointer20:23
delilazok I checked with lsmod and it does say psmouse20:23
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RenzoreKAny K programs for analyzing free space? Where its being lost (I know df works) but looking for something easier to look at20:24
Agent_bobRenzoreK you mean du ?20:24
Agent_boband yes there is an app that makes a pie chart of disk usage...  i don't recall the name.20:25
||arifaXRenzoreK: http://kdirstat.sourceforge.net/20:25
MrKenniewhich is in the repos20:26
||arifaXMrKennie: yep it is20:26
Agent_bob!info kdirstat20:26
ubottukdirstat (source: kdirstat): graphical disk usage display with cleanup facilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.4-4 (hardy), package size 268 kB, installed size 876 kB20:26
||arifaXbtw I searched for "treesize for linux"20:26
||arifaXat google20:26
Agent_bobdu -sh :)20:26
RenzoreK||arifaX:  I used that once in PCLOS but in Kubuntu the binary doesnt seem to work so well on this system20:27
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RenzoreKWasnt there something like Kdiskfree or something? A simple util20:28
||arifaXRenzoreK: works good here and seems pretty fast. well than check du -sh and write your own :)20:28
||arifaXjust kidding20:28
Agent_bob!info filelight20:30
ubottufilelight (source: filelight): show where your diskspace is being used. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 608 kB, installed size 1740 kB20:30
Agent_bob!info xdiskusage20:30
ubottuxdiskusage (source: xdiskusage): Displays a graphic of your disk usage with du. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.48-7ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 26 kB, installed size 100 kB20:30
RenzoreKgdmap works just fine. Found it in the repos20:30
RenzoreK:D20:30
Agent_bob^ :)20:31
RenzoreKThanks everyone for the wide selection :)20:31
RenzoreKI may need to try a few20:31
Agent_bobvisit the last one there ^ :)20:31
delilazalso checked in xorg.conf and the mouse configuration it says ExplorerPS/2 so that would be correct... any other reason why mouse would go crazy? maybe a new mouse will solve the problem??20:32
Agent_bobtry ImPS/2 maybe.20:32
BluDog_Anchorite99% of the mouse problems i have found are due to a bad mouse, or dead batteries.  Spent 2 days trying to figure out why left click went away, to find it was just broke.20:33
delilazso erase Exploere and write im?20:33
Agent_boband turn eumlate3button off.20:33
BluesKajhiyas20:34
BluDog_Anchoriteif you CAN, confirm that the device actually works on a different machine.  that may be faster.20:34
Agent_bobBluDog_Anchorite i have only had one mouse die on me. and i don't do wireless.20:34
BluDog_AnchoriteAgent_bob: i am on number 3, but that is over MANY years20:35
delilazAgent_bob, wouldn't that turn off the scrolling button?20:35
delilazand is "lm" and i or an L?20:35
BluDog_Anchoritedelilaz: it shouldnt, as most mice with a wheel ARE 3 button mice. you can usually use the Scroll wheel as a 3rd button20:36
Agent_bobdelilaz eye I20:36
delilazcool thanks BluDog20:37
delilazThanks Agent_bob I'll try that then, hopefully I won't mess anything up lol20:37
Agent_bobdelilaz safty.  make a copy of the line you intend to edit.  then comment it out with #  and edit the copy20:38
BluDog_Anchoriteor make a backup of the whole file20:38
Agent_bobto revert move the # down one line     o.O20:38
Agent_bobBluDog_Anchorite if you only mess with one aspect, yes.  but if you tweek many things.   then you may only want to revert one section.20:39
Guest67750romania20:39
BluDog_Anchoritewhen playing with DSL, the comment trick bit me a few times.  I just stay safe by doing the whole file.  personal preference20:39
Agent_bob!romania20:39
ubottuDaca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro20:39
BluDog_Anchoritenot that your method is not good20:40
delilazdamn sounds complicated, i'm not a linux genius20:40
Agent_bobdelilaz it's not complicated.   it's just editing a text file.20:40
Agent_boband we were discussing ways to keep a backup of the changes you make.20:41
BluDog_Anchoritenot really.  cp ./file.txt ./file.backup.txt20:41
Agent_bobsudo  ^20:41
webashow to fix kmenu line...??? :) any guide will be highly appreciated20:41
delilazok thanks Agent_bob and BluDog, highly appreciated20:42
BluDog_Anchoritesure thing20:42
Agent_bobwebas fix ?   what's wrong with it ?   what version of kde ?   what version of ubuntu ?20:42
webaskubuntu 4kde .. i deleted kmenu and i added widget original kmenu.. and now it looks very messy..its in right place and i want in left place..20:43
webasi tried deleting all widgets..but tis very pain.. :D20:43
Agent_bob!kde420:44
ubottuKDE 4.1.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.1 - Support in #kubuntu-kde420:44
Agent_bobthey probably know in there ^20:44
webasthanks20:45
BluDog_Anchoritehey Agent_bob, you know of any way to add a serial jack to a device that doenst have one ?20:46
BluDog_Anchoritesay, a laptop, circa 193020:46
Agent_bobBluDog_Anchorite some boards have the comb for it but no actual "plug"  but being a lappy, it's not as likely.20:47
BluDog_Anchoriteno external "breakout-box" style thing you have heard of20:47
Agent_bobnope20:47
BluDog_Anchoritei hate not being able to console in from this lappy20:48
Agent_bobmight get a usb>serial adapter for it20:48
Agent_bobassuming usb interface20:48
BluDog_Anchoritethat was my last option, and I was trying to avoid that route20:48
BluDog_Anchoritebeen doing a lot of console work on switches lately20:48
Agent_bobusb=universal serial bus   iirc20:49
BluDog_Anchoritei dont have my ethernet to serial cable home, or i was gonna try that20:49
BluDog_Anchoritebbl20:50
Agent_bobi made a partition on my debian box.   well several really   so now i could install grub on it.   i probably need the refresher course on grub i haven't used it in so long.20:56
sebastian_where can i donwload e17?20:57
favro!info e1720:57
ubottuPackage e17 does not exist in hardy20:57
Agent_bobsourceforge.net ?20:57
favro?20:57
Agent_bob!info enlightenment20:58
ubottuenlightenment (source: enlightenment): The Enlightenment Window Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.16.7.2-5 (hardy), package size 398 kB, installed size 1004 kB20:58
Agent_boblooks like e1620:58
favrohttp://maketecheasier.com/get-enlighted-try-enlightenment-for-your-ubuntu-hardy/2008/05/23 - here's one20:59
kblinhi folks21:00
Agent_bob1:0.16.7.2 is in dapper 1:0.16.7.2-5 is in hardy    pfft21:04
Agent_bob2-3 ^21:04
favroand e17 has been available for 3 years that I know21:05
emma!torrents21:07
ubottuKubuntu Hardy Heron (8.04) torrents can be obtained at http://se.cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/8.04/release/ (KDE 3.5.9) or http://se.cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-kde4/releases/8.04/release/ (KDE 4.0.3)21:07
kblinwhat's the best way to try the 8.10 kernel on my 8.04 box?21:10
Agent_bobsomeone told me that ktorrent is broken   "all versions of it"21:10
Agent_bobkblin build it.21:11
BluDog_AnchoriteAgent_bob: ktorrent is somewhat broken21:11
Agent_bob!source21:11
ubottuYou can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html21:11
BluDog_Anchoriteit leaks ram like a sieve21:11
Agent_bob!kernel21:11
ubottuThe core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - See also: /msg ubottu stages21:11
leobuenas noches..21:12
leoalguien que pueda ayudare?21:13
Agent_bobso has ubuntu ran it's course?   or why isn't someone interested enough to patch ktorrent ?21:13
leoadyudarme digo21:13
leo#kubuntu-es21:13
Agent_bob/join #channel21:14
BluDog_AnchoriteAgent_bob: i wish i knew. i use ktorrent daily, and have it stripped to no plugins.  still leaks.  i wiould fix it myself if i had any clue how to21:14
kblinBluDog_Anchorite: valgrind might help there21:14
BluDog_Anchoritei miss using the bandwidth scheduler21:14
kblinBluDog_Anchorite: but you'll probably need to build ktorrent with debug symbols21:14
BluDog_Anchoritekblin: it's been SO long since i did debuging for E, that i forgot how to.  would take me a few weeks ot get back up to speed21:15
Agent_bob"ubuntu is dead!"21:15
BluDog_Anchoriteperhaps if i have  alight week at work21:15
Agent_bob"long live ubuntu!"21:15
BluDog_AnchoriteAgent_bob: it was dead when they butchered X in hardy.21:16
favroAgent_bob: ktorrent is not ubuntu heh21:16
Agent_boba veak veek @ verk21:17
BluDog_Anchoriteheh21:18
Agent_bobBluDog_Anchorite squeeky wheels get greesed!  and imo ubuntu is now dragging linux in a very non-linux dirrection.   but i'm old school so hey.21:18
Agent_bobfavro as per "<favro> Agent_bob: ktorrent is not ubuntu heh" it's in main,updates,security   so it is ubuntu.  as all packages in main are "ubuntu" packages.21:24
kblinpff, the "kernel/compile" page is so out of date21:24
* kblin goes to build a vanilla kernel21:24
favroAgent_bob: my point was one package does not make/break a distro21:24
Agent_bobbuild a chocolate one.21:25
BluDog_Anchoritesure does, for some people21:25
BluDog_Anchoritewith so many distros to chose from21:25
* Secutor is away: Gone away for now.21:25
kblinAgent_bob: I'll laugh later while the kernel is compiling21:25
Agent_bobfavro but if it's broken and it's in security updates and bug fix updates repos   it says a lot about how much they actually care about getting it right.21:26
favroI'll agree with that :)21:26
* Agent_bob points out the reason he said "they" in that context. i do not C++21:27
jwin fstab what are the proper lines for ntfs, vfat, and hfs+ systems ?21:28
jwjust default for options ?21:29
Agent_bobman mount    scroll down to the fs specific options and see21:30
eagles051387night all21:34
prxqhi. anyone knows perchance how to access all the printers supported by hplip from the install-new-printer dialog?21:35
prxqthe installed version of hplip supports my printer, but the driver is not listed in the window.21:35
edward_hey room21:36
Agent_bobedward_ channel21:37
Agent_bobyahoo has rooms   where they say "asl" all day21:37
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Rioting_pacifisthow do i install a 32bit library to a 64 system21:42
Agent_bobguest is now known as root,  root is now known as me,  me is not root.21:43
Agent_bob!32bit21:43
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about 32bit21:43
Agent_boberrr...21:43
Rioting_pacifist!6421:43
ubottuAMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/23ewcf for more information.21:43
Agent_bob!find ia3221:44
ubottuFound: lsb-core, lsb-cxx, lsb-desktop, lsb-graphics, lsb-languages (and 3 others)21:44
Agent_bobnow just that do any of those have to do with that21:44
Agent_bobpfft i give up.21:44
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marachello21:59
uglyboyhi everyone...22:05
brandihi.22:05
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uglyboyhow is everybody ?22:05
moj0risingpretty good22:06
uglyboygood to hear22:06
moj0risingI've moved my ubuntu installtion to a different laptop that has pretty much all the same hardware. Everything works great...22:06
moj0rising...except for the sound.22:06
moj0risingThe sound adapter is detected fine but there is no volume.22:07
moj0risingdoes anyone know how I might fix this issue?22:07
moj0risingI've tried volume, alsamixer and a few other similar things.22:07
uglyboywell, i'm a rookie here. just trying out linux now for the first time and i'm more than lost !!!22:07
moj0risingeven with everything turned all the way up, I can't really hear sound.22:08
moj0risingthat's all right, uglyboy.22:08
uglyboyif there is anyone in mood to give me some guide lines will be most appretiated22:09
moj0risingwhat are you looking for uglyboy?22:10
uglyboyemmm, just to give you a hint! have no idea what's goin on :p22:10
uglyboyjust got tired of messing with my windows and thought of giving linux a try22:10
moj0risingum...22:11
moj0risingwell you could try going to ubuntuguide.org22:11
bilickiuglyboy: so is anything not working?22:11
moj0risingthat's a good place to start22:11
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moj0risingthen you can go through and see what you'd like to change.22:11
uglyboywell, the pc is working!22:11
moj0risingto customise your system.22:11
uglyboystill trying to find how to run exe files22:12
moj0risinghaha. you can't.   ;)22:12
NickPrestauglyboy, in short, you don't. You can use wine to run some windows applications but you should look for a native solution22:12
uglyboyah ok ! then i did nothing wrong :p22:12
uglyboywhere do i find softwate and drivers then ?22:12
uglyboybtw, thanks in advance for the help here22:12
bilickiuglyboy: you cannot run Windows files in linux (unless you use this program called Wine). Why do you want to run exe files? Most applications that you need are available for linux anyway22:12
NickPrestauglyboy, look in Adept for software. That is your package manager. You don't really need to worry about drivers as they are automatically installed, for the most part22:13
uglyboyah ok thanks22:13
bilickiuglyboy: what program would you like to install?22:13
NickPresta!adept > uglyboy22:13
ubottuuglyboy, please see my private message22:13
uglyboyfor example ccleaner22:13
NickPrestauglyboy, no need. No register or leftover files from old driver versions :)22:14
NickPrestaregistry*22:14
uglyboyah ok22:14
NickPresta!lnw22:14
ubottuWant to know the differences between Windows and Linux? This guide, called "Linux is Not Windows" is a pretty good read -- http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm22:14
uglyboywell, didn't know the drivers are installed automaticaly and was trying to install the msl live update22:14
NickPrestamsl?22:14
uglyboymsi22:15
uglyboyfor my drivers22:15
uglyboybut since you told me all is ok then no need to22:15
NickPrestawhich hardware are you having problems with?22:15
uglyboywell, nothing yet .... guess i thought i had to install the drivers like i did in windows22:16
uglyboydidnt know till now that they are on automaticaly22:16
NickPrestauglyboy, no. :) That is one of the advantages of Linux. You don't run all over the internet looking for silly drivers and applications to install22:16
uglyboythat's good to know!22:16
uglyboyhow about an explorer? do i need firefox now?22:17
bilickiuglyboy: you have Konqueror22:17
NickPrestaFirefox is a popular browser. Konqueror is good too.22:17
bilickiuglyboy: but you can install firefox too22:17
uglyboyyea i know22:17
NickPrestaThere is Opera and Mozilla, etc. Whichever you like22:17
uglyboyyea, and how do i install firefox since i can't run the exe file?22:17
bilickiuglyboy: if you find the konsole, and type in "sudo apt-get install firefox", it should work22:18
uglyboyah ok thanks22:18
moj0risingkonqueror is very good. I like firefox best. you can easily install it with adept.22:18
bilickiuglyboy: it is that easy, it will ask you for your password22:18
Guest34611Is there an deamon tools - like for kubuntu ?22:18
NickPresta!mountiso22:18
ubottuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » or use the "gmountiso" package - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify downloaded ISO images using !MD5 before !burning.22:18
moj0risingapt-get, as bilicki says, is probably easier, actually22:19
NickPrestaGuest34611, ^22:19
Guest34611so what do i type in the console to mount an ISO ?22:19
Guest34611or is there a program22:19
NickPrestaGuest34611, sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint or gmountiso. Read the factoid22:19
NickPresta!mountiso > Guest3461122:19
ubottuGuest34611, please see my private message22:19
Guest34611I'd prefer a program, just a deamon tools look alike22:20
NamShubmount is a program :)22:20
Guest34611so i type sudo apt-get install mount ?22:20
NickPrestaGuest34611, you already have mount installed.22:20
Guest34611where ?22:21
chrisruls00uglyboy If you are looking for programs on your own you should go to System>Adept Manager under your menu. Then search for the program you want, If it shows up click on it and then click "request Install" This also searches discriptions so if you are searching for a generic application (lets say a music player) you could enter that into search as well and then just read the descriptions of what pops up. Also see if there is the22:22
chrisruls00kubuntu icon next to it because that means it should work well in Kubuntu.22:22
NickPrestaGuest34611, either install the gmountiso program through Adept or you will have to use the command line. Did you read the message ubottu send you?22:22
NamShub-- /bin/mount most probably22:22
Guest34611yes but it talked about mountpoint , when i asked what it was i got a nice "i'm jsut a bot" message22:23
uglyboysorry to bump in again . so all the programs i need i find them in adept manager?22:23
NickPrestaGuest34611, a mount point is a directory, for example. You create a directory, like say "myisomount" in your home folder. Substitute 'myisomount' in <mountpoint>22:24
moj0risingah ha! my sound issue is fixed. There is an item in my mixer called "PCM" and another called "front"22:24
NickPrestauglyboy, yeah22:24
moj0risingI turned PCM all the way up...22:24
moj0rising...that helped a good bit...22:24
uglyboyand how do i know which one to install?22:24
moj0rising...then I turned front all the way up and my sound was loud!   :D22:24
NickPrestauglyboy, it will resolve dependencies for you. So install the 'root' package and it will bring in everything it needs22:24
uglyboywhat i put in search ? for example firefox...22:24
uglyboyah ok22:24
NickPrestauglyboy, you put in Firefox, or web browser, or mozilla. The search is fairly smart22:25
uglyboythanks22:25
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vilhelmHello everyone ... been along time since i've been using kubuntu :)22:28
NickPrestavilhelm, that's a shame :)22:28
vilhelm<NickPresta> I know :)22:29
DaskReecHAnyone have any insight on grub?22:29
DaskReecHI'm getting a grub error 2 on booting22:30
yad__hi22:38
yad__i cant find my external hard disk after ive plugged it in via usb22:38
yad__anyone now what could be the problem22:39
DaskReecHyad__: Does it tturn up in /dev ?22:39
yad__whats that22:39
isaac_wenassssssssssssssssssss22:39
ubuntu__hi22:40
ubuntu__well, i'm testing kubuntu 8.10 beta22:41
yad__daskreech what is dev22:41
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bdheeman /msg NickServ identify qa4bizi7e22:42
DaskReecHyad__: Ok :) how are you looking for the drive?22:42
DaskReecHbdheeman: Time for a change22:42
yad__in dolphin22:42
Picibdheeman: I suggest you change your password.22:42
DaskReecHyad__: IT doesn't turn up in /media ?22:42
bdheemanyes, sure22:42
yad__in sstorage media?22:43
DaskReecHyad__: yeah22:43
bdheemani'm surprised how it passed over here22:43
yad__i dont think so22:43
yad__no one with any tips how to connect a external hard disk22:47
yad__?22:51
vilhelmAnyone know if there is anyway to fix the full screen problem on youtube?.. it lags with fullscreen22:53
RenzoreKvilhelm: Using nvidia proprietary drivers ?22:53
vilhelm<Renzorek> nope22:54
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bdheemanre, hi22:57
jwhmm, just installed a realtime kernel on kubuntu 8.04 and now alsa is broken.  any idea how to troubleshoot ?22:57
bdheemani'm testing kubuntu 8.10 beta22:57
bdheemanfirst of typing anything is giving an annoying flicker, driver is vesa, because 'sis' did not work for my 671/771 card22:59
webashow to fix kmenu line...??? :) any guide will be highly appreciated22:59
webaskubuntu 4kde .. i deleted kmenu and i added widget original kmenu.. and now it looks very messy..its in right place and i want in left place..22:59
Bsimshow do I tell kde to recreate the menu from scratch23:02
webasmenu? :) you mean bottom line?23:04
Bsimswebas: the kmenu entries23:05
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kebomixFree Programming ebooks With Direct Links Here http://request-ebooks.blogspot.com/23:06
webasim not sure.. i would like to change in my way the bottom line menu :)23:06
kblinuh, crud23:08
jwkebomix has been around irc today spamming...23:11
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gschoenbauerHallo zusammen.23:11
delilazhello room, I created a new user but when I restart the computer to sign in as the new user the computer prompts me to "type in a new password" (root enforced) but I didn't give the new user a password. What can I do?23:12
glade88hola! where can I get a kubuntu 8.10 CD ISO?23:17
jwdelilaz: sign in as your old user, and give the user a pw ?23:17
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delilazjw: true but I wanted it to be a passwordless account23:20
delilazAlso under password it states Last changed: and give an old date 1969, am I supposed to change that date to the present?23:22
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jwdelilaz: no idea, still a noob with many things :)23:23
jwdelilaz: maybe the date is the problem...23:23
fgarceseduardohello, i can't make mi wifi to work23:23
delilazjw: I tried and saw that I can't change it anyway lol23:24
fgarceseduardoi have an atheros r500 card but nothing seems to be usefull, i've tried madwifi and change kernel to 2.26.7. costum for my lap (aspire one)23:24
fgarceseduardoany one can help me?23:24
fgarceseduardoso, i need hel with my wifi on my aspire one, I've installed madwifi drivers and i've changed the kernel, but when i tipe iwconfig at the terminal no wireless is detected23:27
fgarceseduardoany ides, or guides, or something in order to have my wireless on?23:28
delilazfgarceseduardo: u can try this site http://linux-wless.passys.nl/ ,see if it helps23:31
fgarceseduardodelilaz: than's i will tray it23:33
delilazno prob23:34
vampdog#midnight-torrents23:37
Rioting_pacifistusing firefox over X on a sun server (via ssh -XC) keeps freezing up my local X23:40
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bdheemanI see a lot of flicker while typing in any application or pressing keys when no applications is active23:49
mowaeyhola a toda la comunidad de Ubuntu23:53
mowaeyalguien me recibe23:54
mowaey?¿23:54
bdheemanਪਗੋਰ ਪ੍ਕਕਕਿ23:56
mowaeyhi23:57
mowaeysomebody understand me23:57
mowaeyhi everybody!23:57
dr_willisHmm>23:57
bdheemanmowaey: I don't think so23:57
bdheemanis not this an English specific channel?23:59
delilazI got the new user to work, now anyone know how I can access apt updates on the new user?23:59
dr_willisI only speak english. :)23:59
dr_willisNo Hoblo23:59

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