[00:00] where did the e come from in my initial query [00:00] maybe don't answer that [00:24] that should be aliased to reisub too :) [00:25] jdong, and we await your brave alias [00:26] ! is reisub sysrq [00:26] I'll remember that, ompaul [00:27] !forget is reisub sysrq [00:27] !reisub sysrq [00:27] I'll remember that, ompaul [00:28] !searc reisub [00:28] Sorry, I don't know anything about searc reisub [00:28] !search reisub [00:28] Found: is reisub sysr, reisub sysr, forget [00:28] nice [00:28] !forget [00:28] I know nothing about forge yet, Flannel [00:28] .... [00:28] ubottu: forget forget [00:28] I'll forget that, Pici [00:28] !search reisub [00:28] Found: is reisub sysr, forget*, reisub sysr [00:29] jdong, ompaul: i type r, s, e, i, u, b in succession, after "raising skinny elephants is utterly boring", think it was ribeiro who told me [00:29] http://lifehacker.com/software/linux-tip/gently-restart-a-frozen-system-298891.php [00:29] LjL: thats... inside out [00:29] hmm [00:30] ubottu: forget forget [00:30] I know nothing about forget yet, Pici [00:30] pici sorrry [00:30] I give up. [00:30] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REISUB [00:30] !forget \forget [00:30] I know nothing about \forget yet, ompaul [00:30] Shows why you need to do EI before S (scroll down) [00:30] !forget `forget` [00:30] I know nothing about `forget` yet, ompaul [00:31] !forget 'forget' [00:31] I know nothing about 'forget' yet, ompaul [00:31] !forget [00:31] I know nothing about forge yet, ompaul [00:31] !forgt [00:31] Sorry, I don't know anything about forgt [00:31] !forge [00:31] Sorry, I don't know anything about forge [00:31] hmm [00:31] stdin, ^^ sorry [00:31] * ompaul hides [00:31] I know nothing vs I dont know anything.... [00:31] !-forget [00:31] I know nothing about forge yet, Flannel [00:31] Why the two different error messages? [00:32] I love you too ubot5` [00:32] Flannel, I gave up on that : [00:32] :) [00:32] what exactly are you trying to do? [00:32] !forget [00:32] I know nothing about forge yet, ompaul [00:32] hmmm, I wonder if one is a removed command, the other is a nonexistant one [00:32] !search reisub [00:32] Found: is reisub sysr, forget*, forget 'is reisub sysr, reisub sysr [00:33] ompaul: nice... [00:33] Flannel: probably doesn't matter much as you unmount later anyway [00:33] stdin, ^^ fix that before I break it more [00:33] (*if* you wait long enough between u and b) [00:33] I'll have to do it by hand :p [00:33] LjL: Well, if you dont let stuff stop gracefully before synching, there may be unsynched things from the termination [00:33] stdin, ergo the sorry [00:33] Flannel: i thought an unmount implied a sync [00:34] LjL: normally, not with sysreq I dont think. [00:34] LjL, umount does in a sane place but as Flannel says sysrq is not normal [00:35] We probably ought to also mention on that factoid that it is those keys for US-QWERTY only. And other keyboards will have to compensate [00:35] Flannel, i can't think of a keyboard where any of those keys is in the wrong place... [00:36] LjL: well, dvorak people would be pushing the keys themselves, not the letters. [00:36] ah well, the dvorak weirdos. [00:36] so, assuming they had a qwerty keyboard, instead of an actual dvorak keyboard [00:37] Flannel, they got dvorak keyboards they are supposed to know what they are doing [00:37] LjL: I know theres some foreign keyboards that do too. Although, hmm, maybe not those keys. [00:37] Flannel: no, not those keys [00:37] you get AZERTY [00:37] QZERTY [00:37] and i think QsomethingERTZ [00:38] but the reisub keys are firm in their place [00:43] !search reisub [00:43] Found: [00:43] !search printscreen [00:43] Found: sysrq [00:44] Lofde_ called the ops in #ubuntu+1 () [01:41] !sysrq [01:41] In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing, in succession, R, E, I, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key [01:41] !-sysrq [01:41] sysrq has no aliases - added by ompaul on 2008-09-12 20:29:51 - last edited by ompaul on 2008-09-12 20:30:33 [01:42] !reisub sysrq [01:42] I'll remember that, ompaul [01:42] !printscreen [01:42] Sorry, I don't know anything about printscreen [01:44] stdin, thanks [02:05] is my name fine/ [02:38] If you have to ask... [03:29] In #ubuntu-server, micah said: ubottu: there is a debian package for webmin and it works fine [03:29] ubottu: tell micah about worksforme [03:49] roight. [04:37] In ubottu, liuxg515 said: I am sorry ,this is my first time here. what do you mean? [06:47] How do i forward a channel again? I can't seem to find the documentation on it [06:49] oh, found it. [09:58] some really old bans pointing to -ot [09:59] sorry pointing to read topic [10:33] cheeky is basically incapable of using irc in a meaningful way [10:34] that is for certain [10:35] I am gone away for a while [10:35] cya [10:43] back [10:46] wanker! [10:46] * picca has quit (Remote closed the connection) [10:46] lovely [10:47] wow [10:47] to be expected [10:47] how to win friends and influence people [10:48] well when you come in with a will ubuntu switch to kde question to start off, not likely to end well [10:48] hahaha [10:48] point [10:59] Cheeky, how may we assist you [10:59] wish i was never exposed to this life that i have stated to explore [10:59] !coc | Cheeky read this [10:59] Cheeky read this: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ [11:00] !guidelines | Cheeky and this [11:00] Cheeky and this: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [11:00] bazhang: i feel it was unfair that justy coz i was talking to you and not to that dude who banned me had the right to do so just coz i didnt answer him .. that pretty freaking sad [11:00] Cheeky, no. [11:00] Cheeky, many people tried to help you and you ignored them [11:01] Cheeky, many times ignored them and repeated your same question again and again. [11:02] and how did you knowi ignored them?...did you assume .. coz maybe you did .. my asnweres to their questions .. were nto addressed to them i didnt know how to add all of them but i still suffecient infomation that they culd grasp that i have adressed that their question listn if this is a whole power trip wat ever leave me out of it [11:02] iam sorry [11:03] about 4 people answered you questions [11:03] Cheeky, you not only ignored them, but refused to read the links provided you. [11:03] i dunno why i ineed to talk to you guys and ask to be let in if you guys dont want me there or reall expect that every person who joins that room or used has to to answer you gusy questrions and wat ever [11:04] Cheeky, dont try to blame others for your lack of irc etiquette. [11:04] i think you didnt read my messages i said i used one of the programs the docs gave me [11:04] Cheeky, no. [11:04] i am not fluent with terms [11:04] that are in linux [11:04] Cheeky, you did not pay attention. [11:04] thought ubuntu room was for newbies [11:04] Cheeky, you refused to follow others suggestions. [11:05] Cheeky, and just repeated the same question over and over disrupting the channel. [11:05] wat ever man [11:05] you guys run this show [11:05] have at it [11:06] Cheeky, being a new user is not an excuse for not following through. [11:06] maniheer, how may we help you. [11:06] it aint no excuse [11:06] came to say sorry for yesterday [11:06] to LjL [11:06] maniheer, okay [11:06] i also see they forwarded #ubuntu-ontopic to #ubuntu [11:06] maniheer, will forward to him. thanks [11:07] maniheer, if there is nothing else... [11:07] we all are humans if we dont make mistakes ,.. we wont learn and .. i dont need to appologize to poeple toget into rooms ...you guys have some issure [11:07] wow ... my experience with ubunut and web cams [11:07] heh .. [11:08] Cheeky: if thats your stance, there is nothing more to discuss [11:08] and the community that tries to grow and promote a something but .. only to find that you gusy i guess power trip [11:08] Cheeky, any thing else? [11:08] nah nothing else [11:09] Cheeky, if not, then please read the /topic here. [11:09] please why dont you kick me [11:09] no need. [11:09] you can just part yourself. [11:09] nah .. come on you guys do this all the timeand then wait for pple to applogize to you guys [11:10] Cheeky, no. [11:10] Cheeky, this is not about us vs you [11:10] Cheeky, this is about a very busy room that you were disrupting. [11:10] Cheeky: We try to keep the channels open for all comers, when you dont listen to instructions or follow advice you make the room more busy and others cannot get help [11:11] jussi01: i have been a user in ubuntu and only come to ubuntu coz i like that lace its been something diffferent that i love comeing back to every day for the last 3 weeks just coz i didnt reply back to some one names ompaul he didnt have the right to kick me .. [11:11] i justy dont feel its unfair [11:12] Cheeky: thats not what happened [11:12] and this isn't the first time you've been "guided" to stay on track/topic in #ubuntu [11:12] i thought linux and some programmers that i have met there have a different vision that i respect and beleive [11:12] not this [11:12] I know I've spoke to you twice [11:12] oh yeah [11:12] ikonia: he mentioned if i dont reply back to wat he said he will kick me if i ever ask about web cam/ [11:13] Cheeky: you where not responding to his question and just kept hitting the channel with the same question over and over [11:13] he was trying to help you and you where ignoring it, and just distrupting the channel [11:13] and I know I have spoken to you before about repeating the same question over and over and over in chanel before [11:13] hmm [11:13] Cheeky: the operators are there to make sure the room runs smoothly, while I didnt see the situation, it sounds though you were disrupt ting the channel and denying others a chance to get help. [11:14] I have a problem with a user I banned harassing me about the ban in private. [11:14] and he won't stop. [11:14] Nafallo: just ignore it dude [11:14] yeah it sounds .. wat ever man [11:15] if you wish me that fine .. if you guys have the power to let me in .. iam not gonna bege to join back in [11:15] no one is asking you to beg [11:15] apparently he's harassing others as well was just reported on the channel I banned him from :-/ [11:15] Cheeky: until you agree to abide by the guidelines set up for the channel - guidelines for everyones benefit - we will not unban you. [11:16] i feel like iam punished .. when i truly .. doent feel like i deserve it .. its like the system .. [11:16] oh well. keep an eye out for 'zoddan' I guess :-) [11:16] Nafallo: thank you [11:18] Cheeky, you wont be let back in then. [11:18] on wat ground? [11:18] Cheeky: the ones that have been explained to you, and your attitude in here [11:18] refusing to follow the coc and the guidelines Cheeky [11:19] so you guys choose huh [11:20] sorry i .... dont feel like i didnt something wrong ... i get banned coz .. i didnt respond to some one in the chat [11:20] Cheeky: it's just moderation to keep the channel working esasy [11:20] Cheeky: you then went into #ubuntu-offtopic and started bad mouthing ompaul [11:20] that i admit [11:20] was that the right thing to do, or the right way to do deal with something you feel was wrong [11:20] no [11:21] Cheeky, I have noticed you before today as well. [11:21] but wat do you expect when you get banned from a place from a dude you cant ask whty [11:21] so just think about why you where removed (keep in mind I've spoke to you around 2 times also to get you to keep on track in #ubuntu) and think about how you asking the same question over and over [11:21] Cheeky, this is a community of volunteers. [11:21] Cheeky: what do I expect ? I expect you to not go bad mouthing people in other channels [11:21] even if he banned you, making comments in other channels is not going to help your situation [11:22] Cheeky, if he did not, I would have. [11:22] you should also expect you fellow mates not to ban ppl just coz they didnt reply to them [11:22] Cheeky: thats not what happened [11:22] yes it did [11:22] Cheeky: and the fact that you can't grasp that [11:22] omg [11:22] Cheeky, that is simply not the case. [11:22] Cheeky: he offered you help, I offered you help, two other people offered you help, you simpley kept asking the same question over and over again [11:22] Cheeky, you cant re-write history that has logs. [11:23] not trying [11:23] Cheeky, you were asked repeatedly to stop. [11:23] Cheeky, and many folks made suggestions which you completely ignored. [11:23] i wuld liek to see the logs and paste exactly where he said he will ban me if he didnt reply to his message [11:23] if you could please bring it up or show me [11:23] ill will show you [11:23] Cheeky, no need. [11:23] why not [11:24] Cheeky, I witnessed it all. [11:24] thats proof [11:24] on my side [11:24] isnt it [11:24] please show me so i can show [11:24] and what you are saying is simply not correct in any way shape or form. [11:24] dont you think i have the right to do so ? [11:24] then please show me howi can show the logs ? [11:24] please? [11:24] !logs [11:24] Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - For LoCo channels, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ [11:24] no. [11:24] it's fine I have no problem with you seeing the log [11:25] you need to read those links I gave you and come back at some point in the future [11:25] Cheeky, when you have understood the meaning of the ubuntu community. [11:25] i cant seem to find the logs of the chat room i was in [11:26] was there a paticular file i need to look for so i can justify my statement ? [11:26] pavlz seems to have stopped [11:26] yes [11:26] :) [11:26] I've tried to speak to him in a pm, but he does seem limited by the device he's typing on [11:26] he was running debian or using debian repos with ubuntu [11:27] I think so, but I couldn't quite get any info out of him [11:27] that cant end well :) [11:27] ultabreaksit mark 2 [11:27] he may not be, but it's hard to tell [11:28] for those times when 1 breakage is not enough [11:29] is there a file in paticular i need to find toshow my logs of that chat in that directory >? [11:29] Cheeky: this is going nowhere [11:30] Cheeky: seriously just walk away for a few hours, and have a ponder about this all came about [11:30] Cheeky, how about coming back in a few days [11:30] what? [11:30] i just want to show ... my argument doesnt matted .. if i get back in or not at least just do my part [11:30] ultabreaksit has birthed a successor? :( [11:30] elkbuntu: ? [11:31] ultabreaksit mark 2 [11:31] Cheeky: we've read the logs - hence why we are saying "thats not what happened" [11:31] Cheeky: so it maybe best if you just sit down and had a think about how this all came about, [11:31] ok fair enuff but can i see wat you saw? [11:31] Cheeky: you've just been given the link to see the logs [11:31] elkbuntu, some one using debian repos with ubuntu [11:32] ikonia: i clicked on it but it opened different logs [11:32] Cheeky: re-read it [11:32] Cheeky: as in re-read the link and the text in the link [11:32] i mean .alot of links wih in it in thr browser [11:32] Cheeky: thats right [11:32] Cheeky: so find the link for the channel you where in [11:33] all i know was i typed in #ubuntu in pidgin [11:34] how does that relate to anything ? [11:34] you've been given the link for the logs [11:34] it doesn't matter what client you use, it is still recorded in the logs [11:34] @btlogin [11:35] through the link rthat were given by the bot i navigated to this link http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/2008/10/05/ ...... in that i dunno wat room i was in coz all i typed in was #ubuntu in pidgin [11:35] Cheeky, why do you want to argue this? [11:35] thats the wrong link [11:35] lets stop this [11:35] Cheeky, it wont make things better. [11:35] Cheeky, you were in the wrong. end of story. [11:35] fine i just want to show you guys something .. coz after alli spend all this time taking to ytou guys might as well show you wat i meant right [11:36] Cheeky: just go away for a time, and think about how this situation came about, then we can progress it forward [11:36] Cheeky: we've read the logs [11:36] Cheeky, accept it and move on. [11:36] why cant you please how me the logs or give me a hard time with finding the logs i just wanna see .. and point it out [11:36] this is soo unfair [11:36] this is getting old now [11:37] Cheeky: please follow the advise and just take a break and think about how you got here [11:37] Cheeky, no its not unfair. [11:37] Cheeky, this is unfair to those who use ubuntu other than you. [11:37] Cheeky, we are taking time to spend with you and others are not being helped as a result. [11:38] its totally unfair .. dont help me with my problem .. for asking the communuity and not replying to one person i get banned and then i dont even get help how to navigate and show you my logs [11:38] ha [11:38] ok [11:38] Cheeky, please come back in 4 or 5 days, perhaps a week. [11:38] man [11:38] sure [11:38] forget it [11:38] great. [11:38] wat ever wat goes around comes around [11:38] ok [11:38] bye Cheeky [11:39] do i have to leave or o something ? [11:39] Cheeky: it would be nice please. [11:39] yes please. [11:39] please kick me [11:39] for shits sake [11:39] Cheeky: please be mature enough to walk away [11:39] please [11:39] no necessito [11:40] nah not with some one who i dodnt see is mature enuff [11:40] wat ever man [11:40] ok [11:40] he's been a problem before. [11:40] yes indeedy [11:47] [hopeless] (n=evilz@202.122.154.103): hot deal maker spamming porn messages to other users including yours truly [11:48] currently in PM [11:48] you guys there? [11:48] Cheeky, how may we help you [11:49] i need to know wat link or namei need to find out my log in a paticular room :) [11:50] Cheeky: you where told before [11:50] before you started speaking with swear words [11:50] and acting like a child [11:50] Cheeky: getting the logs is not going to change anything, so it is possibly better for you to take a break and come back when you are prepared to talk politly [11:50] you gave me link right ... ? [11:50] Cheeky: there is nothing futher to discuss [11:51] Cheeky, come back some time later. [11:51] please .....all i am asking is that you assist me with finding my logs ..so .. that i can then think abnout how i cam here... [11:51] Cheeky, say in four or five days. [11:51] pleaase i dont want to come back to ubuntu [11:51] i want to see my logs for that room [11:51] Cheeky: ok, then I suggest you leave [11:52] !logs [11:52] Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - For LoCo channels, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ [11:52] Cheeky, then no reason to be here arguing with us [11:53] well actually there is .. coz i want to show you guys something that you guys are just bluntly ignoring [11:53] and asking me to come a few days later [11:53] Cheeky: we have read the logs [11:53] ok can i see themplease? [11:53] Cheeky: and you showing us "something" won't change your attidue in this channel [11:53] i can findit on the linkyou send me [11:53] Cheeky: you've been given the link twice [11:53] there is nothing more to discuss [11:55] ok [11:55] foundit [11:55] here [11:55] 10:22] Cheeky, as you have not replied to my civil questions if you mention web cams again I will ban you [11:55] isnt that unfair ? [11:55] Cheeky: there was more than that one line [11:55] Cheeky: and that doesn't change your attitude in this channel [11:55] but isnt that unfair? [11:56] Cheeky: there is nothing more to discuss [11:56] Cheeky, no. [11:56] ah ok [11:56] then [11:56] Cheeky, there was more than an hour before that of you asking again and again. [11:56] and many folks giving answers and you ignoring them completely. [11:56] so ppl get banned for not repling ppl question? [11:56] Cheeky: thats not what happened [11:57] and you know that [11:57] maybe i was respodning to one guy [11:57] and you've had that explained to you [11:57] no dude [11:57] Cheeky, you were disrupting the channel for a long long time. [11:57] and you've been rude and offensive, and an "issue" in this channel [11:57] this unfair [11:57] thats a pretty good list [11:57] wow [11:59] Cheeky, any other channel than #ubuntu and you would be out and banned inside of five minutes. [11:59] thats all you have to say yes .. i did .. but i didnt mean .. 2 .. but i get kicked out by ompaul .. coz .. i didnt reply back to him .. that very fari in your eyes not saying i was perfect i was lil pissed about teh whole web cam thing i need ti for my parent and midst getting kicked [11:59] Cheeky: do you think you've behaved nicley in here [11:59] bazhang: please dont assume .. i have been in other rooms and met many firends [11:59] no [11:59] not not all [11:59] do you think you gusy have been fair to me? [12:00] Cheeky: yes very [12:00] Cheeky: we have been polite, answered your questions, listened, [12:00] Cheeky, more than fair. [12:00] Cheeky, at some point you have to diy [12:00]