[00:00] <dr_willis> delilaz,  they have to be in the right sudoers list and groups.
[00:00] <dr_willis> I think theres a gui user admin tool that can enable that.. but i dont rember where.
[00:01] <delilaz> wouldn't that mean to give the new user sudo power? which I don't want to do
[00:02] <bdheeman> How is about I install the beta right now and update/dist-upgrade it after a stable release comes up
[00:05] <delilaz> Is there a command that the root user can use to update apt in another user??? Anyone know?
[00:05] <dr_willis> I tend to just wait a week or 2 after the release and do clean installs. :)
[00:06] <dr_willis> Less of a hassle thta way
[00:06] <bdheeman> delilaz: create group and allow only a set of commands to this groups in the /etc/sudoers
[00:08] <bdheeman> dr_willis: you are right
[00:09] <Nythain> quick problem... in intrepid, im trying to change my refresh rate from 85 to 75, and every time i do, it defaults to "auto" and stays at 85, any suggestions???
[00:09] <delilaz>  Is that done through System Settings? I'm still learning this OS :)
[00:09] <Nythain> yeah, system settings --> display
[00:09] <Nythain> but like i said, it just sets it to "auto" and stays at 85 :(
[00:22] <dr_willis> Hmm...
[00:22] <dr_willis> This is a CRT monitor or LCD?
[00:22] <Nythain> CRT
[00:23] <dr_willis> could be its thinking the crt cant handle 85, and you may need to put in a proper modeline in the xorg.conf
[00:24] <Nythain> well, it handles 85, just wont switch to 75... xrandr tells me its supported, and even when trying to set it manually in xorg.conf it keeps defaulting to 85
[00:35]  * DaskReecH hates the new X
[00:43] <pxc> hey
[00:43] <mowaey> hi pxc
[00:43] <pxc> does anyone here know how to launch vlc without launching the GUI?
[00:43] <pxc> I want to use it in a cron script to rip a Windows Media stream (mplayer crashes, streamripper doesn't support it)
[00:45] <stijn> hey
[00:45] <stijn> i've a question about kubuntu 8.10
[00:45] <stijn> will the KDE4.1.2 also contains KDE 3.5 software?
[00:46] <stijn> cause when I install kubuntu 8.04, it installs KDE3 and 4 apps
[00:46] <stijn> Which i hate
[00:46] <izzyb> I'm trying to get syntax  folding of perl scripts working in vim.  I've added set foldmethod=syntax to my .vimrc file, but it still doesn't work.  I've added vim-perl and vim-scripts in the hopes they would solve the problem but so for no luck.  any idea what I'm missing?
[00:46] <stijn> for example KDE3 konsole and KDE4 console
[00:47] <thismamacooks200> ﻿when I log onto another account's desktop, my music player goes silent. But if I'm running a noisy game, it is still heard. How can I make the music always play?
[00:49] <pxc> hello, all
[00:49] <pxc> i'm working on a little script to record the streaming version of a local radio show that runs once a week at a specific time.
[00:50] <pxc> My question is this: how can I tell VLC to record for a certain length of time and then shut down?
[00:50] <cj7jeep> will someone help me with a login problem.  I am new to ubuntu and am trying to login into my server (on a workgroup not domain)  I can see it but when i double click it just opens folder and nothing there - not even a prompt for a username and password
[00:52] <cj7jeep> anyone?
[00:53] <mowaey> hi cj7jeep
[00:54] <cj7jeep> hello mowaey
[00:54] <cj7jeep> any ideas on the above
[00:58] <DaskReecH> cj7jeep: Hi
[00:58] <DaskReecH> A little more detail. what are you logging into?
[00:59] <cj7jeep> logging into a workgroup
[00:59] <cj7jeep> other users with shared windows folders are ok just server r2
[01:01] <cj7jeep> yes
[01:02] <cj7jeep> does not prompt me for username and password
[01:07] <dr_willis> This is Linux box, connecting to windows shares - correct?
[01:08] <cj7jeep> yes
[01:10] <dr_willis> so you see the remote mchine  address in the file manager like...
[01:10] <dr_willis> smb://mshome/   but cant get to the specific share eh?
[01:11] <dr_willis> in my case fileserver named tiny, became smb://tiny/ which then poped up a dialog for my user/password
[01:11] <zeus> hola?!
[01:12] <dr_willis> Hmm
[01:15] <_2> !info 9wm | w9wm
[01:15] <_2> glenna ?
[01:25] <yurimxpxman> anybody know whether Requiem will still work if I use an older version of iTunes?
[01:39] <_2> !info xapple2
[01:48] <_2> why does nvidia-glx-legacy depend on linux-image-i"3"86 ?  i have linux-image-i686 because intel HDA doesn't work with i386  but can't install propriatery driver or i'll lose sound   ???
[01:49] <_2> syntax error
[01:55] <_2> three things about ubuntu linux i don't like.   1. the installer is bloated.  supose i want to install on an older box with only 128m ram.    2. the release cycle expects everyone to have a bzillion terabytes of bandwidth to dl a new cd iso worth of data each day.   3. they try to hard to make the "reboot will fix anything" crowd feel at home. (i.e. linux != M$  never has, never will, and, we don't want it too, so stop trying.)   <
[02:06] <Daisuke_Ido> _2: 1. alternate install is great for those with limited ram, but to be honest, an amount of ram like that would be better suited to a distro like DSL or Puppy Linux.  2. That's what LTS releases are for, three years of security updates on the desktop.  3. Agreed, though I rarely even need to reboot aside from a kernel update
[02:07] <_2> Daisuke_Ido why so.  i hardly ever use that much ram from a console ?
[02:07] <Daisuke_Ido> from a console
[02:07] <_2> yep
[02:07] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu is by its very nature a graphical distro
[02:07] <_2> nope
[02:07] <_2> it's linux.
[02:08] <Zorix> how does everyone like kde 4 so far in intrepid?
[02:08] <_2> or should i say GNU/Linux
[02:08] <Daisuke_Ido> it's a linux distro aimed at the "everyday" user, which is a group (a majority) that uses a graphical environment
 ubuntu is by its very nature a graphical distro <<< sounds very "reboot will fix anything" oriented
[02:09] <Daisuke_Ido> no
[02:10] <_2> Daisuke_Ido answer me this.   if it's so gui oriented why are there 7 active tty's on your box and only one of them has a gui in it ?
[02:10] <Daisuke_Ido> because the everyday user has no need for seven different guis
[02:10] <_2> so why are the other six running ?
[02:10] <_2> :)
[02:10] <Daisuke_Ido> which is why it activates the one that HAS a gui by default
[02:10] <Daisuke_Ido> for those that choose to use them.
[02:11] <_2> exactly
[02:11] <kalorin> sorry I'll take the gui any day
[02:11] <Daisuke_Ido> if you choose to use them, you're provided for, but not necessarily the target audience
[02:11] <_2> so it's not "by its very nature a graphical distro"   it's simply GNU/Linux
[02:11] <kalorin> command shells are easy to open and it's nice to be able to see them side by side
[02:11] <kalorin> that alone makes the gui >>>
[02:11] <Daisuke_Ido> if you prefer a straight console install, use the server install, which also takes care of the ram limitation
[02:11] <kalorin> _2: I agree, linux is linux, X by it's nature is GUI
[02:12] <Daisuke_Ido> i find it interesting that you continue to quote the original, and not revised statement
[02:12] <Daisuke_Ido> [21:08:01] <Daisuke_Ido> it's a linux distro aimed at the "everyday" user, which is a group (a majority) that uses a graphical environment
[02:12]  * _2 looks for the revision
[02:13] <_2> oh was that a revision ?
[02:13] <_2> ok.
[02:13] <Daisuke_Ido> oi
[02:13] <_2> i thought that was supposed to be an explanation.  sorry, my bad.
[02:14] <_2> Daisuke_Ido will the server installer in hardy run in 128m ?
[02:15] <Daisuke_Ido> it's basically debian's text-based installer
[02:15] <Daisuke_Ido> no reason it shouldn't
[02:15] <_2> i thought they said the minimum was 192 now...
[02:16] <_2> because of extensive use of ramfs or somethin.
[02:16] <Daisuke_Ido> i know the livecd uses a ramdisk, but i don't think the alternate installer does
[02:17] <Daisuke_Ido> but don't quote me on that
[02:17] <_2> hmmm i may be misinformed on that.  i'll do some research.   i know that 64m was not enough for hoary
[02:18] <kalorin> I want to know why my VPN connection to our cisco server suddenly stopped working
[02:18] <_2> 128 was enough to install server   and then 16m was enough to run it.
[02:18] <kalorin> it gets to 80% connected then says that it can't connect
[02:18] <kalorin> I can get to the port and others using the windows client can
[02:18] <kalorin> wondering if the knetworkmanager version changed or if something changed in the cisco that's stopping it
[02:19] <kalorin> is there a log for the knetworkmanager vpn connections that I can see what's going on there?
[02:19] <_2> kalorin should be in /var/log/
[02:19] <_2> not sure tho
[02:19] <_2> and check auth.log on the server.
[02:20] <No1PeaceDragon> Have a question on synaptic when kalorin is helped
[02:20] <_2> jump in now.
[02:20] <No1PeaceDragon> i opened syanptic pack.man. and got this message
[02:20] <No1PeaceDragon> ....
[02:20] <No1PeaceDragon> E: Type '--20:56:03--' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/playonlinux.list
[02:20] <No1PeaceDragon> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[02:20] <No1PeaceDragon> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[02:20] <No1PeaceDragon> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[02:21] <_2> !pastebin | No1PeaceDragon in the future
[02:21] <kalorin> Oct  5 20:12:11 satellite kernel: [ 6531.070988] tun0: Disabled Privacy Extensions
[02:21] <kalorin> that's got to be what's the problem
[02:21] <No1PeaceDragon> I am a noob so I at a lost
[02:21] <dr_willis> No1PeaceDragon,  looks like a typo on line 1 of that file..
[02:22] <_2> No1PeaceDragon pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:22] <dr_willis>  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/playonlinux.list
[02:22] <No1PeaceDragon> Ubotto sorry I didn't know how else to post it
[02:22] <_2> err yeah /etc/apt/sources.list.d/playonlinux.list
[02:23] <_2> looks like a missing # on line one.  but that's a guess until we see the file.
[02:23] <_2> kalorin so it's a kernel change that done it to you.
[02:24] <kalorin> well possibly
[02:24] <kalorin> looking at some boards now seeing if others are seeing the same
[02:24] <kalorin> seems like
[02:24] <kalorin> it
[02:24] <No1PeaceDragon> ok how do you want me to send this?
[02:24] <_2>   http://paste.ubuntu.com
[02:25] <_2> No1PeaceDragon go there ^
[02:25] <_2> bring back the final url
[02:26] <No1PeaceDragon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/54504/
[02:27] <_2> looking
[02:28] <dr_willis> You totally messed up that file. :)
[02:28] <dr_willis> its showing the output of the wget command, not the file itself
[02:28] <_2> eeek looks like the output of blah   2>
[02:28] <No1PeaceDragon> then this noob really messed up?
[02:28] <dr_willis> No idea what you did...
[02:28] <dr_willis> wget http://deb.mulx.net/playonlinux_hardy.list
[02:28] <dr_willis> sudo cp playonlinux_hardy.list  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[02:29] <dr_willis> 'should' get it fixed.
[02:29] <bilicki_> will the 8.10 beta eventually, through updates, upgrade to the stable version of 8.10?
[02:29] <No1PeaceDragon> that goes in command line right?
[02:29] <_2> No1PeaceDragon right
[02:29] <dr_willis> of course. :)
[02:29] <dr_willis> bilicki_,  yes
[02:29] <kalorin> hello?
[02:29] <kalorin> wow i'm still here
[02:29] <kalorin> knetworkmanager crased
[02:29] <kalorin> crashed
[02:29] <No1PeaceDragon> 2 and Dr_willis thanks probably be back lol
[02:30] <_2> No1PeaceDragon the more the more.
[02:30] <_2> i would say the marier but that's not always so
[02:30] <_2> so just come on back.
[02:31] <mister-tea> no some are grumpy
[02:31] <_2> oh mister-tea just shut up.
[02:31] <_2> :)
[02:31] <bilicki_> dr_willis: excellent, it is my humble opinion that Kubuntu 8.10 is the best linux distro right now :)
[02:32] <dr_willis> bilicki_,  last i tried it.. it wouldent even boot on my laptop. :)
[02:32] <dr_willis> but that was 3 weeks ago
[02:32] <mister-tea> i couldn't grt it to boot either
[02:32] <_2> bilicki_ you do know it's early beta
[02:33] <dr_willis> Early beta.. theybetter get a move on! :0
[02:33] <dr_willis> But ya gotta love last minit rushs to meet deadlines
[02:33] <_2> well it is.  </shrugs>
[02:33] <bilicki_> I bought a new dell computer... 8.04 wouldn't boot, fedora would, but after installation, messed up vista and KDE wouldn't boot after one reboot, openSUSE couldn't set up Xorg properly, so GUI didn't work at all...
[02:34] <dr_willis> This is when it pays to lern how to troubleshoot. :)
[02:34]  * dr_willis would guess video card/drivers issues
[02:34] <_2> yeah and use a console
[02:34]  * _2 adds to dr_willis's guess prolly ati
[02:35] <bilicki_> yes, ati radeon 3450
[02:35] <bilicki_> I think
[02:35] <bilicki_> or was it 3540
[02:35] <_2> doesn't really matter, it's all geek to me.
[02:35] <dr_willis> 'ati' says it all.
[02:35] <dr_willis> :)
[02:36] <_2> :)
[02:37] <bilicki_> is there a "sytem information" window (or command) that will tell me info about my system?
[02:38] <mister-tea> lspci
[02:38] <No1PeaceDragon> ok same problem but when use command on hardy list get the following http://paste.ubuntu.com/54506/ the other post still applied tho
[02:39] <bilicki_> ok, it's ati radeon HD 3450 :)
[02:39] <mister-tea> !ati
[02:39] <_2> No1PeaceDragon that one looks ok.
[02:40] <No1PeaceDragon> 2    can I delete the first one so it doesn't give me the error in line one?
[02:41] <_2> No1PeaceDragon you should overwrite it with this on.
[02:41] <No1PeaceDragon> 2 ok thanks
[02:41] <_2> No1PeaceDragon with the sudo cp command
[02:42] <No1PeaceDragon> wow I must be getting smarter I actually knew that miracles never cease
[02:42] <_2> No1PeaceDragon :)
[02:43]  * _2 hopes that No1PeaceDragon hasn't messed up his native /etc/apt/sources.list  in the process.
[02:58] <_2> Gallinger find a name.   and preferably a non-offencive one.
[03:00] <No1PeaceDragon> 2    thank you and Dr_willis now my synaptic works again hopefully play on linux will work as well
[03:00] <_2> No1PeaceDragon welcome.
[03:00] <No1PeaceDragon> hagn all
[03:01] <_2> hagn ?   yahoo code ?
[03:01] <_2> prolly have a good night ?
[03:02] <_2> or aol code ?  :)
[03:03] <franco> Hey
[03:03] <franco> Anyone can help me?
[03:03] <_2> franco it's down the hall on the left
[03:03] <_2> you can't miss it,   there is a sign on the door
[03:04] <franco> >.>
[03:04] <franco> I am serious
[03:04] <franco> I need help
[03:05] <franco> Regarding Kubuntu
[03:05] <franco> can you or can you not help me
[03:05] <mister-tea> !ask
[03:05] <_2> franco oh that kind of help.    :)          what i mean is you can't get help if you don't explain the issue.
[03:05] <Fieldy> has anyone else had thunderbird crash every few days reliably?
[03:05] <franco> okay
[03:05] <BluesKaj> _2 , if you can't help or won't , pls drop the smarta** remarks
[03:06] <_2> BluesKaj ok.  done.
[03:06] <franco> Today I installed Ubuntu for first time and the wireless is not working. I am currently using cable but I would like help to fix the wireless. My wifi card is an Atheros card.
[03:07] <BluesKaj> !wifi | franco
[03:08] <franco> I'm noob on this, can you please tell me which option should I have a look at?
[03:08] <anom01y> !ivtv
[03:08] <BluesKaj> Fieldy, I haven't used t-bird for quite a while due to the link probs it has with default browser , therefore I recommend Kmail
[03:08] <franco> Hey guys
[03:09] <franco> which option in the wifi docs should I look at?
[03:09] <franco> Setting up a Wlan connection or Enabling WPA on Kubuntu or Wireless Access point?
[03:10] <BluesKaj> franco, Have you looked for updated drivers for your card ?
[03:10] <Fieldy> BluesKaj: okay, thanks for the input
[03:10] <franco> Like I said, I have never used linux so I don't know what I can do.
[03:11] <BluesKaj> well, google is still your friend , even in linux , franco :)
[03:11] <franco> What should I do?
[03:11] <franco> The driver was updated I believe
[03:12] <anom01y> how do I restart the ivtv driver, it is not working right now, and I don't want to have to restart the computer. I cannot pkill ivtv either, and modprobe ivtv doesnt do anything to fix my problem.
[03:12] <anom01y> ?
[03:12] <franco> Ok, my card is updated
[03:12] <franco> The wireless still won't work!
[03:12] <anom01y> I keep having the crtl-alt-esc to get it to work
[03:14] <BluesKaj> sorry franco , I'm not an experienced wifi user , still using cat5 on my network
[03:14] <franco> Will anyone here help me?
[03:14] <franco> I just gotta know how to activate it
[03:14] <franco> >.>
[03:14] <mister-tea> franco what is the specific card model
[03:14] <franco> how can I see that through terminal?
[03:14] <mister-tea> lspci
[03:15] <franco> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01
[03:16] <franco> I believe it should be Atheros AR242x 802.11abg
[03:16] <franco> is that what u needed?
[03:16] <mister-tea> yeah hold on
[03:19] <mister-tea> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789824
[03:19] <mister-tea> try somr reading there^
[03:22] <franco> it says to access System > Administration
[03:22] <franco> but administration is not an option
[03:23] <cmburboa> que rollo
[03:23] <cmburboa> hola a todos
[03:25] <mister-tea> !es
[03:25] <cmburboa> ok
[03:25] <cmburboa> what's up everybody?
[03:25] <cmburboa> ejejeje
[03:25] <mister-tea> de nada
[03:26] <cmburboa> neta hablan en ingles aqui?
[03:26] <cmburboa> ajajaja
[03:26] <cmburboa> xD
[03:27] <cmburboa> somebody there?
[03:27] <mister-tea> I might be a little bi lingual but it's english here
[03:27] <cmburboa> ok that's rigth no problem for me!
[03:28] <cmburboa> but it seems like we were the ones here!
[03:28] <cmburboa> are ther someone else?
[03:28] <mister-tea> this is a support channel for kubuntu
[03:29] <cmburboa> o I really sorry im new on kubuntu, so its a perfect way to comunicate my problems
[03:29] <cmburboa> (I've had a lot)
[03:29] <cmburboa> xd
[03:29] <cmburboa> isn'n it?
[03:29] <mister-tea> !ask
[03:30] <cmburboa> ok thank you, but where are the social channels?
[03:31] <Arlianin> Hey guys
[03:31] <mister-tea> do a channel list or #kubuntu-offtopic or such
[03:31] <Arlianin> I entered the link I was suggested and still nothing :/
[03:32] <cmburboa> well, Im fascinated with kubuntu is so better than the windows
[03:32] <mister-tea> i agree
[03:33] <cmburboa> well i dont speak very well the english so excuse me for the wrong expressions! HA!
[03:33] <Arlianin> Guys
[03:33] <Arlianin> someone linked me to
[03:33] <Arlianin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789824
[03:33] <Arlianin> but that is for Atheros 5006 driver
[03:33] <cmburboa> what's that?
[03:34] <Arlianin> I got AR242x not AR5007
[03:34] <Arlianin>  what can I do?
[03:35] <mister-tea> supposedly it works for your card according to what read on google
[03:35] <Arlianin> it didn't
[03:35] <Arlianin> it all worked up to: "cd madwifi-nr-r3366+ar5007"
[03:36] <mister-tea> google your card and include kubuntu and see what you come up with
[03:36] <Arlianin> that part wouldn't load and all the other lines wouldn't load either
[03:37] <cmburboa> ok dudes nice to chat with you
[03:37] <cmburboa> !
[03:37] <cmburboa> kubunut & Linux rules!
[03:38] <mister-tea> kubuntu too
[03:46] <Arlianin> Hey guys
[03:46] <Arlianin> still not working my wireless
[03:46] <Arlianin> >.>
[03:46] <Arlianin> I've followed like 3 tutorials
[03:47] <mcine> my sound are down
[03:47] <mcine> help-me
[03:47] <Arlianin> I got no wireless internet
[03:47] <Arlianin> >.>
[03:48] <Arlianin> I'm Franco!
[03:48] <Arlianin> I still need help for the wireless connection!
[03:48] <mcine> my volume no up
[03:48] <Arlianin> I still need help for the wireless connection!
[03:49] <Guest99223> hello wow Konversation is alot like zinc ..
[03:49] <Arlianin> I still need help for the wireless connection!
[03:50] <Arlianin> ok, this is not helpful
[03:52] <Arlianin> wow.... anyone active here?
[03:52] <Guest99223> yes
[03:52] <Arlianin> anyone helpful online?
[03:53] <johnny> yahoo
[03:53] <Arlianin> I need help with the wireless connection...
[03:53] <Guest78125> hum
[03:54] <Arlianin> can u help me or not?
[03:55] <Arlianin> can u help me or not?
[03:55] <Arlianin> I still need help for the wireless connection!
[03:56] <compilerwriter> !attitude > Arlianin
[03:57] <Arlianin> compiler, I'm requesting for help and each person who answers disconects like 2 seconds after that >.>
[03:57] <DaskReecH> Arlianin: Fun eh?
[03:57] <DaskReecH>  /part
[03:57] <Arlianin> it was fun
[03:57] <Arlianin> not anymore
[03:58] <Arlianin> Dark
[03:58] <Arlianin> Dask*, can you help me please?
[03:59] <DaskReecH> I have no ide
[03:59] <Arlianin> oki
[03:59] <Arlianin> :/
[04:00] <mcine> ai jose tui e brasileiro?
[04:00] <BluesKaj> !pt
[04:00] <mcine> jose!!
[04:00] <DaskReecH> Arlianin: I don't know what the problem i
[04:00] <DaskReecH> is
[04:01] <jose> no mexicano
[04:01] <jose> you
[04:01] <BluesKaj> !es
[04:01] <mcine> brasileiro
[04:01] <Arlianin> Dark, the problem is that my wifi doesn't load
[04:01] <Arlianin> so I can't connect through wireless
[04:01] <jose> ok
[04:01] <mcine> ce entende de ubuntu amd64?
[04:01] <DaskReecH> You read the Wifi link?
[04:03] <DaskReecH> !wifi | Arlianin
[04:04] <Arlianin> Dask I've already read that
[04:04] <Arlianin> that didn't help me a bit
[04:04] <Arlianin> >.>
[04:11] <kevin_> hello all, can anyone tell me which repository I should use to get the 'unrar' application?
[04:12] <Arlianin> use
[04:12] <Arlianin> sudo apt-get install rar
[04:13] <kevin_> Arlianin: thnaksI tried that and  get the following: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable
[04:13] <kevin_> should I try later?
[04:14] <kevin_> (I thought may be it was in a repository that I am not subscribed to)
[04:16] <Arlianin> doubt it
[04:16] <Arlianin> I did that and it worked for me
[04:16] <Arlianin> :)
[04:17] <kevin_> thanks anyway... I wonder if teh servers are busy.
[04:18] <Arlianin> Sf
[04:18] <Arlianin> can u help me?
, probably not .. new Kubuntu user .. .1st day of using it ....
[04:20] <sf-irc> sorry
[04:20] <Arlianin> Same as me
[04:20] <Arlianin> xD
[04:20] <Arlianin> I need help with wireless
[04:20] <Arlianin> I might have to change to Debian
[04:20] <Arlianin> >.>
[04:21] <sf-irc> well, BF suggests that you go to the ubuntuforms.org to see if you can search for your issue there ... or try the #ubuntu channel
[04:40] <franco__> #ubuntu
[05:18] <DaskReecH> Arlianin: Fixed?
[05:19] <yao_ziyuan> would like to create a "shortcut" command, say, "upup", which executes "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade", how?
[05:19] <Arlianin> Yeah Dask
[05:19] <Arlianin> it got fixed
[05:19] <Arlianin> :)
[05:19] <mario_> hello
[05:20] <DaskReecH> !hi
[05:24] <DaskReecH> Anyone have any idea how to resolve a grub error 2 ?
[05:25] <bdizzle> hi, I'm lately having problems with my camera and digiKam
[05:25] <bdizzle> I tried to download the pictures off of it and it says "Unknown erro, Could not lock the device."
[05:27] <bdizzle>  any ideas on how to get it to work?
[05:27] <mario_> mhmh
[05:28] <mario_> A camera storage is much like a usb pendrive filesystem isn't it?
[05:29] <mario_> has anybody used a projector or beamer with (k)ubuntu
[05:30] <DaskReecH> mario_: I'll hazard a wild guess and say yes
[05:31] <mario_> daskreech: it's kind of messy cause normally they have a lot less resolution than a screen
[05:32] <bdizzle> yes, it is
[05:32] <bdizzle> for a temp fix, I just took out the SD card and put it in the SD card slot
[05:34] <DaskReecH> mario_: So you need dualhead controls?
[05:37] <mario_> daskreech: yes i don't know whether to use the kubuntu display settings tool  or the nvidia one.
[05:45] <DaskReecH> mario_: I'll wager nvidia right now. The kubuntu is still undergoing work
[05:45] <DarkShinigami> I'm not sure what is happening, but I cannot SSH into my desktop and my desktop cannot SSH into this laptop. Cannot find server. The IPs are correct. Any hints?
[05:46] <DarkShinigami> Also, where is the known_hosts file? I forgot.
[05:46] <DaskReecH> ~/.ssh
[05:46] <DarkShinigami> Thank you DaskReecH
[05:52] <DarkShinigami> I get SegFault with ssh. How can I fix this?
[05:55] <DaskReecH> DarkShinigami: what's the error?
[05:55] <DarkShinigami> DaskReecH: Segmentation fault
[05:56] <DaskReecH> what's the command that you are using?
[05:59]  * gkffjcs LOLOLOLOL
[06:00] <DarkShinigami> DaskReecH: ssh 192.x.x.x
[06:00] <DarkShinigami> I get asked for the password, then I get segmentation fault
[06:00] <DaskReecH> DarkShinigami: They both started segfaulting on the same day?
[06:00] <DaskReecH> oh
[06:00] <DaskReecH> hmm
[06:00] <DaskReecH> woah
[06:00] <DaskReecH> and you can walk over and login to the machines fine?
[06:01] <geremy> ssh is segfaulting?
[06:01] <DarkShinigami> Yes, as of today.
[06:01] <DarkShinigami> I am about 2 feet away from each one
[06:01] <geremy> did you apply new selinux rules?
[06:01] <DaskReecH> DarkShinigami: Were they updated?
[06:01] <DarkShinigami> geremy: Yes, ssh is segfaulting.
[06:01] <geremy> did you roll your own or get it out of the repos?
[06:02] <DarkShinigami> geremy: Doubt it. I haven't done anything with rules.
[06:02] <DarkShinigami> DaskReecH: Updated? Last update was maybe two days ago
[06:02] <geremy> can you pastebin the output of ssh -v <machine>
[06:02] <DaskReecH> DarkShinigami: was ssh used the day after?
[06:03] <DarkShinigami> I don't recall the last time I used it
[06:03] <DaskReecH> ah might have been a botchy update then
[06:03] <geremy> be a hell of a botch
[06:04] <geremy> are you using a command like authprogs, etc?
[06:04] <linuxmce> anyone know how to install ati drivers?
[06:04] <DaskReecH> hi linuxmce
[06:04] <DaskReecH> !ati
[06:05] <geremy> ubottu terrifies me
[06:05] <DarkShinigami> geremy: No, I'm not using anything other than Yakuake for my terminal.
[06:05] <geremy> that's reassuring
[06:05] <geremy> ?
[06:05] <geremy> so?
[06:06] <DarkShinigami> !pastebin
[06:06] <geremy> just copy and paste
[06:08] <DarkShinigami> geremy: It's lengthy... http://paste.ubuntu.com/54549/
[06:10] <geremy> is that having entered your password properly?
[06:10] <geremy> or no?
[06:10] <DarkShinigami> Yes
[06:11] <geremy> hmm does it work with RSA?
[06:11] <DarkShinigami> How do I check?
[06:11] <geremy> you don't have rsa set up?
[06:11] <DarkShinigami> Not to my knowledge
[06:11] <geremy> you own these machines?
[06:12] <DarkShinigami> Yup, both are mine and are 2 feet away from each other
[06:12] <geremy> k, first off, these are x86_64?
[06:12] <DarkShinigami> x86
[06:12] <DarkShinigami> No 64
[06:13] <geremy> hmm ok
[06:13] <geremy> alright, lets try this
[06:13] <geremy> you have a flash drive?
[06:14] <DarkShinigami> Sadly, no
[06:14] <DarkShinigami> Not on hand, anyway.
[06:15] <geremy> you have any way other than ssh to get into the machines?
[06:15] <DaskReecH> or a screwdriver
[06:16] <DarkShinigami> SSH is the only method I have for remotely accessing each of them from the other.
[06:16] <DarkShinigami> DaskReecH: Yeah, but I don't think so ;)
[06:16] <geremy> DaskReecH: i prefer a dry martini, but a screwdriver'll do
[06:19] <geremy> DarkShinigami: well, neither of them would happen to be accessable across the public web, would they?
[06:19] <DarkShinigami> Nope
[06:19] <geremy> DarkShinigami: well damn
[06:20] <geremy> do you have a floppy, a cdr, anything?
[06:20] <DarkShinigami> Not on the laptop
[06:20] <geremy> alll righty then. I'm running out of options.
[06:20] <DarkShinigami> Laptop is DVD-R
[06:20] <DarkShinigami> Can't burn
[06:22] <geremy> well, my only remaining suggestions would be to get an ssh client on the server, generate an RSA keypair there, add the rsa pubkey to your .ssh/authorized_keys, then copy the id_rsa file to your laptop
[06:22] <geremy> its a backasswards way of doing it, but it will work
[06:53] <aaron_> Hi, I just installed the Ibex Beta and ran into a few snags...can anyone help please?
[06:57] <cb_> salut à tous
[06:57] <cb_> j'ai une petite question : je suis sous kubuntu kde3.5.10 et une fois j'ai activé des effets graphiques pour voir ce que cela donne
[06:57] <cb_> j'aimerais les desactiver maintenant
[06:58] <cb_> comment faire ?
[06:58] <cb_> je ne trouve pas
[07:00] <Jucato> !fr | cb_
[07:00] <cb_> sorry
[07:00] <cb_> I ask my question in english
[07:00] <cb_> sorry I did not realise
[07:01] <cb_> I have a question
[07:01] <cb_> I am on kubuntu kde 3.5.10 and 4.1
[07:01] <cb_> now using 3.5.10
[07:01] <cb_> but I enable one special effect
[07:02] <cb_> and I would like to switch it off
[07:02] <cb_> how to do it ?
[07:02] <cb_> I don't find  ! If someone have an idea it would be very helpfull
[07:02] <vietnamese> hello
[07:03] <cb_> hi vietnamese
[07:03] <vietnamese> i want setup a system linux
[07:03] <vietnamese> how to?
[07:04] <vietnamese> like windows
[07:04] <cb_> I am not sure to understand your need : do you want to install linux ?
[07:05] <vietnamese>  a system linux
[07:05] <vietnamese> all
[07:06] <cb_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[07:06] <cb_> did you read this page ?
[07:08] <vietnamese> have got : LDAP ,posswall, mail, web, NIF ...
[07:09] <vietnamese> you has install fosswall ?
[07:09] <vietnamese> i can't setting openVPN over fosswall
[07:10] <vietnamese> help me, please!
[07:15] <vietnamese> are you here?
[07:53] <cb_> how to disable the special effect of kde ?
[07:59] <cb_> how to disable the special effect of kde ?
[08:05] <emilsedgh> cb_: System Settings->Desktop->Desktop Effects
[08:05] <emilsedgh> cb_: there is a checkbox, named 'Enable desktop effects'
[08:05] <emilsedgh> just uncheck it :P
[08:07] <cb_> I have a french system so I check ...
[08:08] <cb_> Yes I found desktop effet ( on system  )
[08:08] <cb_> Thanks Now I log out and log in I imagine
[08:10] <cb_> Thanks it works
[08:10] <cb_> now I loose the history I don't know who helped me
[08:11] <Sa[i]nT> cb_: I believe that would be emilsedgh.
[08:13] <emilsedgh> np cb_ :)
[08:18] <cb_> emilsedgh thanks
[08:24] <crimsaq> I've got kubuntu 8.04, and I havent been able to get sound with work in FireFox whatsoever.
[08:24] <crimsaq> any ideas?
[08:25] <crimsaq> to work*
[08:36] <noaXess> where is a good place to ask about racoon and/or sh programming
[08:36] <noaXess> ?
[08:47] <jw> just made a new install of kubuntu 8.04 and had sound on my 2 cards.  just installed realtime kernels, and booting them there is no sound what so ever.  i can't even find /proc/asound at all.  any ideas ?
[08:58] <ocs> hi. which is the best desktop video capture for kubuntu (with kde4) ? I've tried istanbul but it doesn't work very well, so i'm searching some alternatives
[09:25] <kblin> hi folks. I'm trying to build the 8.10 kernel in 8.04 to help check if a bug was fixed for 8.10. however, the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile don't work for me, there's no makedumpfile deb for 8.04
[09:25] <kblin> what's the ubuntu 8.04 way to build a kernel?
[09:36] <mattosai> Total linux newb here, I just installed Hardy on my laptop and though the sound works if I use headphones, the laptop speakers don't make any sound.  How do I go about fixing this?
[09:37] <noaXess> does anybody use kvpnc? i try it, but not really happy with it.. is there any other gui for racoon?
[09:43] <busfahrer> Hi. I am trying to setup the TV Out of my nvidia geforce 7600gs card. According to google there are GUI ways to do this today, so I tried to install nvidia-settings. However, trying to install that package would remove nvidia-glx-new, which I assume are my vidcard drivers. Any help on that one, please?
[09:43] <busfahrer> Oh, I'm using Kubuntu 7.10 i386
[09:47] <DreadKnight> heya, upgraded yesterday to intrepid, i also made updates on my mom's ubuntu hardy and the internet doesn't works on both of them
[09:47] <DreadKnight> tried my laptop at work (intrepid), also no internet..
[09:49] <kblin> DreadKnight: define "no internet"
[09:49] <kblin> DreadKnight: does local networking still work?
[09:53] <DreadKnight> kblin, i won't see any shares from the network here at work
[09:53] <administrateur> hi all
[09:54] <DreadKnight> kblin, anyway, the knetworkmanager sucks hard in intrepid
[09:54] <kblin> DreadKnight: shares?
[09:54] <DreadKnight> kblin, yeah.. local network :P shares on other computers inside the network
[09:54] <kblin> DreadKnight: isn't that samba?
[09:55] <kblin> I was asking about networking
[09:55] <DreadKnight> kblin, i'm very noobish when it comes to networking / internet stuff
[09:56] <kblin> DreadKnight: then I hope you've got some time to learn it, given that you're running a beta release distro :)
[09:56] <DreadKnight> read about on ubuntu forums about  'no internet connection' issues on intrepid
[09:57] <kblin> DreadKnight: kidding aside, can you check ifconfig and route -n to see if your ip address and default route is set?
[09:57] <DreadKnight> kblin, trying right away
[09:58] <DreadKnight> i might have bad luck with intrepid and no internet connection at home (there was a storm...), since my mom's hardy doesn't works concerning internet as well like i said
[09:59] <DreadKnight> or bad updates in both cases
[09:59] <kblin> well, I'm currently using an up-to-date 8.04 box, and all I can say is that networking is fine
[09:59] <kblin> so it might indeed just be your line
[10:00] <DreadKnight> kblin, backports and all the stuff enabled?
[10:02] <kblin> just hardy-proposed
[10:03] <DreadKnight> i see 127.0.0.1 around there  mask 255.0.0.0 and a lot of 0 for packets
[10:04] <DreadKnight> no numbers in route -n
[10:04] <DreadKnight> the tray icon globe thingy is greyed out
[10:06] <kblin> ok
[10:06] <kblin> so loopback networking is fine ;)
[10:06] <kblin> DreadKnight: is this wireless or wired network you're using?
[10:09] <DreadKnight> kblin, at home i tried both; here at work only wired
[10:09] <DreadKnight> going away for a while, gonna get a 8.04 cd and try it home and at work as well
[10:09] <DreadKnight> bbl
[10:09] <saka_> i'm upgraded the 8.04 version to the 8.10
[10:10] <Under_Wraps> Hi
[10:11] <Under_Wraps> can anybody help me with http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3097952.0
[10:12] <Under_Wraps> I cannot enable DMA on my HD
[10:20] <angela> ciao
[10:21] <angela> ciao
[10:21] <angela> !list
[10:22] <junkY_San> hi, i have installed the latest kubuntu (8.10). i have setup an encrypted root fs during the installation. i also have setup an encrypted home for my user. but i never get asked for the password of the home folder. is the encryption working?
[10:23] <kblin> junkY_San: did you set up an encrypted lvm or did you encrypt / and /home separatelt?
[10:24] <kblin> *separately
[10:24] <junkY_San> kblin: manually i did nothing. i set this all up during the installation wizard
[10:24] <junkY_San> i have to look at the fstab, one second please
[10:24] <kblin> how many different passwords did you set?
[10:24] <junkY_San> 2
[10:24] <kblin> hmm
[10:25] <junkY_San> i have to say i really like the encryption of the root device. is it all done during the initrd?
[10:26] <kblin> junkY_San: I guess so. I haven't tried the beta yet
[10:26] <weedar> Why isn't there Firefox and Thunderbird compiled with QT instead of GTK?
[10:26] <kblin> ask in #mozilla
[10:27] <kblin> besides, qt and gtk are quite different
[10:27] <kblin> so it's not as if you'd be able to swap them in five minutes
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:45] <john__> yes
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> its dead in here
[10:45] <john__> ok
[10:46] <NCommander> ActionParsnip, you can fix that by apt-getting phoenix-down
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> !phoenix-down
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> !info phoenix-down
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> I guess kubuntu just works ;)
[11:05] <weedar> kblin: Thanks, sorry for the late reply :)
[11:10] <ocs> weedar: wht's kblin ?
[11:11] <kblin> ocs: me
[11:30] <thale__> Got a kinda strange VPN/DNS question.
[11:31] <thale__> I have a local DNS server, and when I VPN in, I get a DNS server assigned by the vpn concentrator
[11:31] <thale__> What I would like is to have my pc query one, then the other if the query isn't answered
[11:31] <thale__> does that make sense?
[11:31] <jw> anyone seen this before (on kubuntu 8.04)?  upon installing and booting with a realtime kernel, alsa is no longer available
[11:38] <Guest62452> How do i add webcam and mic utilities for kmess ?
[11:51] <struktured> anyknow know where to acqure "/usr/share/cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake"? I can't compile any kde4 applications as of result of this file missing
[11:51] <struktured> apologies for the terrible english, past my bed time
[11:53] <ghostcube> maybe ask in kubuntu-kde4 :)
[11:54] <eric_> How do i install webcam and mic plugins for kmess ?
[11:55] <struktured> /join #kubuntu-kde4
[11:56] <ghostcube> eric_: no idea so far here :) i just use skype :)
[11:57] <eric_> does anyone here use kmess ?
[12:04] <buntfalke> hi
[12:04] <buntfalke> Will the 8.10 release still contain kde 3.x?
[12:19] <buntfalke> Will the 8.10 release still contain kde 3.x?
[12:21] <ghostcube> nope
[12:24] <linux_> прет мужики
[12:25] <buntfalke> ghostcube: thanks
[12:25] <ghostcube> buntfalke: on kubuntu.org there is an articel about what happens if u update to 8.10
[12:25] <buntfalke> oh, thanks. i'll have a look.
[12:26] <linux_> Подскажите прогу для тестирования hdd под Linux
[12:26] <ghostcube> !ru | linux_
[12:28] <buntfalke> ghostcube: which one? is it not a news article on the frontpage?
[12:29] <ghostcube> ehm moment
[12:29] <ghostcube> buntfalke: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades/Kubuntu
[12:29] <ghostcube> read the first line
[12:30] <buntfalke> ah, thanks. i thought there would be a more detailed article, too :-)
[12:30] <kblin> that's not an article about what happens on upgrade
[12:30] <buntfalke> i found that one yet, though i didnt read it, as it looked like "random generic upgrade instructions only anyway"
[12:31] <ghostcube> kblin: it will overwrite kde3
[12:31] <ghostcube> so thats what he asked if there will be an kde3 and the answer is just no
[12:31] <kblin> true
[12:31] <ghostcube> :
[12:31] <ghostcube> :)
[12:32] <kblin> but that's just about the default settings, it seems
[12:33] <kblin> ghostcube: but I agree that's a major difference
[12:33] <buntfalke> Well. Luckily 8.04 has support until "April 2011" (wikipedia)
[12:33] <buntfalke> so i dont need to worry too much :-)
[12:33] <kblin> ghostcube: which is why I'm trying to compile just the 8.10 kernel, without too much success so far
[12:34] <ghostcube> kblin: afai understand it right the kde3 will be completely overwritten or ? i dont know only read the article on kubuntu.org oO
[12:34] <kblin> ghostcube: they're talking about settings
[12:34] <kblin> so I figure this is the application settings in ~/.kde
[12:34] <buntfalke> i'd guess the same way
[12:34] <ghostcube> kblin: yeah true
[12:35] <buntfalke> kblin: what's the kernel issue/
[12:35] <kblin> buntfalke: the 8.04 kernel is horribly broken with kvm
[12:35] <kblin> and the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile seem to be for 8.10 already
[12:36] <kblin> at least the makedumpfile package is 8.10 only
[12:36] <buntfalke> oh. might be. Well, I am using the vanilla kernels only.
[12:36] <kblin> make-kpkg fails trying to create the docs
[12:36] <kblin> (e.g. when I try to do this the old way)
[12:36]  * buntfalke has to leave
[12:37] <buntfalke> thanks for the kde info kblin, ghostcube
[12:37] <ghostcube> np
[12:37] <buntfalke> byebye
[12:37] <kblin> take care
[12:37] <ghostcube> by
[12:40] <MrKennie> kubuntu 8.04 isn't LTS afaik
[12:41] <lee_> hi
[12:44] <dr_willis> !hi
[12:44] <eagles051387> dr_willis: hey
[12:45] <lee_> o lala
[12:51] <eagles051387> hi LeeJunFan
[12:52] <dfaure> is it a known bug that the numeric keypad doesn't work in vim-in-konsole? (works everywhere else though). I get newline+letter instead of a number there.
[12:53] <dr_willis> hmm
[12:53] <dr_willis> You may want to try the 'vim-full' package, the default vim-tiny - may have some limits
[12:54]  * dfaure closes his eyes on the fact that this installs vim-gnome ;)
[12:54] <dr_willis> because its working here fine.. I always install the vim-full package first thing however.
[12:54] <dfaure> hmm I see, it's due to kde4-konsole. Works ok in kde3-konsole.
[12:55]  * dr_willis dosent want to get started on 'kde4' :)
[12:55] <eagles051387> dr_willis: care to help me with something on kde4
[12:55] <dr_willis> I dont use kde4.
[12:56] <dr_willis> I dont find it useable at this time.
[12:56] <eagles051387> :p
[12:56]  * dfaure uses kde4 -- and fixes those bugs ;)
[12:56] <dr_willis> perhaps some day the filemanager, and panel will quit crashing with normall ussage...
[12:56] <dr_willis> but i will wait.
[12:57] <dfaure> dr_willis: yep I fixed a large amount of crashes lately.
[12:57] <dr_willis> post bug reports/fix's then.. :)
[12:57] <dfaure> dr_willis: I defy you to find a crash in konqueror or dolphin in 4.1.2
[12:57] <dr_willis> I plan on waiting a LONG time befor i try kde 4.XXX again
[12:58] <dr_willis> perhaps some day it will actually offer me somtning i need.
[12:59] <dfaure> dr_willis: bug reports that I fixed? here are some: bug:171117 bug:169436 bug:167851 bug:160057
[12:59]  * dr_willis gives dfaure  a gold star for being a good Linux user.
[12:59]  * dfaure senses some irony
[12:59] <geek> lol
[13:00] <eagles051387> dr_willis: i want 1
[13:00] <dr_willis> Im sticking with my jwm+rox-filer combo for the foreseable future.
[13:00] <geek> dr_willis: ditto. i'm tempted to not upgrade when intrepid comes out even, and i'm using fairly vanilla KDE (black theme, modded for visibility)
[13:01] <dfaure> that's your choice, I'm just saying that I'm interested in any filemanager crash you find in 4.1.2 or later.
[13:01] <dr_willis> Ive noticed the 'lack of contrast' in a lot of default themes - getting annoying also..
[13:01] <eagles051387> kde4 is nice but still has things missing
[13:01] <geek> dr_willis: black on black in a LOT of cases....
[13:01] <dr_willis> but at least now we have gotten away from  the pinstripes everywhere tht was common for a long time..
[13:02] <dfaure> geek: only with an old .kderc afaik, hasn't happened here for 2 years or so
[13:02] <dr_willis> I did find a thing on kde-look.org with 200+ color schemes.
[13:02] <geek> dfaure: i'm using a system which had a fresh hardy install
[13:02] <tyson_> is it considered bad practice to install software, say, eclipse, within my home directory (as opposed to /usr/local/bin, or, /opt) ?
[13:03] <dfaure> geek: strange
[13:03] <geek> dfaure: two different systems too
[13:03] <dr_willis> tyson_,  if i want stuff to be accessed by a user.. and not messing with the whole system.. i dont see why it would be bad..
[13:03]  * geek used to run kubuntu on a server before i decided i didn't need a terminal server
[13:04] <ahox> is there a good irc client for kde4?
[13:04] <dfaure> konversation isn't ported yet, but kopete with the jabber-to-irc bridge seems to work nicely, although that's admitted convoluted :-)
[13:04] <geek> piry
[13:05] <dr_willis> does irssi in a konsole window count? :)
[13:05] <geek> konversation is one of my favourite KDE apps ;p
[13:05] <dfaure> geek: me too.
[13:05] <ahox> jabber2irc sounds interesting, any howtos?
[13:05] <Dragnslcr> Konversation works fine in KDE4
[13:05] <geek> dr_willis: maybe if its on yakuake ;p
[13:05] <geek> instant boss mode
[13:05] <ahox> well, while I really like konversation, it does have some trouble when I have the desktopeffects enabled
[13:05] <eagles051387> im having issues with samba
[13:05] <dfaure> ahox: with a jabber account, join the groupchat kubuntu%irc.kde.org on server irc.kdetalk.net
[13:15] <peace> can anyone teach me how to unrar..i have a hard time with it...again :D
[13:15] <Tm_T> peace: use ark
[13:16] <dr_willis> unrar e file.rar
[13:16] <dr_willis> i belive
[13:16] <dr_willis> or install and use 'unp'
[13:16] <peace> unrar x filename works.. if i unrar a thing that has many parts..then the unrared stuff has the size of the part.. example 15mb... thats lame...and ark doesnt work with .rar
[13:17] <dr_willis> if you install the proper rar packages - ark should work
[13:17]  * dr_willis is not clear on what peace  said about the 'parts' stuff...
[13:17] <geek> dr_willis: multipart archives
[13:17] <peace> if i would have installed the proper rar packages..then i would have succeded. what packages are for ark to unrar rars? :)
[13:17] <dr_willis> ive unrar'ed multipart archives just fine
[13:17] <dr_willis> I belive you want to use e, not x.
[13:17] <geek> peace: unrar-nonfree works with arc for me
[13:18] <geek> ark
[13:18] <dr_willis> or it may depend on the archive
[13:18] <peace> i think i installed both..nonfree and free unrar
[13:18] <peace> eh..
[13:19] <dr_willis> I think the 2 may have some differnt command line options also
[13:20] <peace> in adept..yes rar is installed..in synaptic...unrar and unrar free is also installed
[13:21] <peace> any other advice?
[13:29] <peace> ok..i managed somehow.. for the love of god please remember to advice to those who gets same problem... ( to select all rars and check them as executable ) this solves the mistery of suffering :|
[13:38] <ahox> Using my gmail account I get an unknown error when connecting to kubuntu%irc.kde.org@irc.kdetalk.net - any ideas?
[13:39]  * dfaure is no expert; ask in #kopete maybe.
[14:00] <sirina> hi!
[14:00] <eagles0513875> !hi | sirina
[14:01] <sirina> thx! - does anybody know if there is a buglist or something akin for hardy with kde4 package?
[14:05] <eagles0513875> sirina: all bugs can be found at launchpad.net also you can report bugs there
[14:19] <sirina> thx a lot, eagles0513875 :-)
[14:22] <BluesKaj> Is there a fix for k3b / libk3b3 upgrade problem ? I have a k3b upgrade broken dependency issue with libk3b2/libk3b3.
[14:28] <BluesKaj> NM , just noticed its for KDE4 only...bah!
[14:43] <Kosmofield> What does the following apt-message mean?... "The following packages have been kept back: k3b" :/ ??
[14:44] <rjb> Kosmofield: apt is not upgrading them at this time, possibly due to dependency issues
[14:44] <Kosmofield> aha, but the may be updated later then? Oki ^_^
[14:44] <rjb> are you running apt-get at the cli?
[14:45] <Kosmofield> yes, mostly for update & upgrade
[14:45] <rjb> then try apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:46] <Kosmofield> I use hardy but I don't want kde4, is it safe to run that command, does I get kde4 packages also?
[14:47] <ghostcube> Kosmofield: it wont update to inteprid it only takes the hardy packages :)
[14:48] <Kosmofield> oki, thanks :)
[14:48] <NikLP> Hi, I've just installed php/mysql/apache and all the other gubbins - how do I go about securing this machine as if it were "on the web" ?
[14:48] <ghostcube> NikLP: iptables or any firewall script
[14:49] <ghostcube> and php restrictions inside the allowed functions
[14:49] <NikLP> hm there's a generic firewall app that people mention, iic?
[14:49] <NikLP> iirc?
[14:49] <BluesKaj> Kosmofield, there's an issue with K3B and KDE3 , for some reason the libk3b3 upgrade needs kde4 not kde3 ,... why this is so is a mystery to me.
[14:49] <NikLP> ghostcube: not sure what you mean about php restrictions there mate?
[14:50] <ghostcube> look on google u can disallow many php functions only needed for exploiting an xss
[14:50] <ghostcube> NikLP: shorewall or fwbuilder should work for servers
[14:50] <ghostcube> or a small one is lokkit
[14:51] <NikLP> ghostcube: cool thanks - which is the "industry standard" though?
[14:51] <Kosmofield> the command  'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' don't do anything, do I need to activate some other repos?
[14:51] <ghostcube> Kosmofield: is this k3b update ?
[14:52] <Kosmofield> I have the backport repo also, It may be that there's a newer version with missing dependencies
[14:53] <ghostcube> Kosmofield: what package is to be hold back
[14:53] <Kosmofield> ghostcube: k3b only
[14:53] <ghostcube> sudo apt-get install k3b
[14:53] <ghostcube> its an error
[14:53] <ghostcube> :)
[14:54] <ghostcube> wrong build package
[14:54] <Kosmofield> k3b is already installed :/
[14:54] <ghostcube> sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:55] <Kosmofield> Nothing happens, it seems that k3b has some unsatisfied dependencies
[14:55] <ghostcube> :|
[14:56] <ghostcube> should not happen
[14:57] <Kosmofield> not a big issue, I not often burn any dvds
[14:59] <NikLP> hm how can I get synergy working?? I'm typing synergyc <hostname> but nothing happens?
[14:59] <NikLP> I have of course setup the relationship in the server and it's running :p
[15:01] <Kosmofield> apt-get issue solved :)
[15:04] <michaesaur> hi.  how do i upgrade to kde4?
[15:04] <michaesaur> or install alongside?
[15:05] <genii> install kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[15:06] <NikLP> anyone?
[15:07] <NikLP> using synergyc -f <hostname> I just get failed to connect to server: timed out :/
[15:09] <michaesaur> genii: is there a difference between kde4 & kubuntu-kde4-desktop?
[15:10] <genii> michaesaur: kde4 is a component of kubuntu-kde4-desktop, which is a meta-package that pulls in a bunch of kde4 applications and the kubuntu kde4 theme, etc
[15:13] <michaesaur> genii: i'll see what happens.
[15:28] <bbeck> Hey, is anyone else having any difficulty with amarok-nightly?  Mine crashes shortly after attempting to start it.
[15:30] <afeijo> where can I check my mail configuration? I use Maildir, but mutt and others are sending to /var/user/mail, I guess it is postfix config?
[15:30] <ghostcube> mutt is working with mbox afaik or ?
[15:31] <afeijo> mutt and mail cmd dont open Maildir, so I cant see my last emails as it is probably going to Maildir
[15:31] <afeijo> so mutt is opening /var/user/mail file
[15:33] <afeijo> ops, /var/mail/user
[15:33] <afeijo> what is the name of postfix config file?
[15:34] <eagles0513875> afeijo: etc is where all config files will be located
[15:34] <eagles0513875> afeijo: most likely under /etc/postfix
[15:35] <afeijo> thanks, checking...
[15:40] <BluesKaj> just installed kde4.1.2 ...seems much more mature than previous devs
[15:41] <BluesKaj> except I don't still care for the kicker/kmenu setup
[15:44] <NikLP> someone care to recommend a firewall package?
[15:46] <stdin> NikLP: either Guidedog for Firestarter
[15:46] <stdin> BluesKaj: you mean the KickOff menu?
[16:12] <Sa[i]nT> Whats a program to manage my startup files?
[16:13] <gorswin> Quick question. when Kmail imports ssl and tls server certs where are they saved?
[16:13] <gorswin> Sa[i]nT I think I saw that in kcontrol panel
[16:14] <adrian> aloha
[16:15] <gorswin> Sa[i]nT type kcontrol  in term and see if what you need is there
[16:15] <gorswin> adrian hiya
[16:26] <mbahamonde> hi, i just installed intrepid and noticed that the plasma add widgets from internet doesn't work. the list doesn't populate. maybe the feed is corrupted? the wallpaper downloader works though
[16:26] <Pici> mbahamonde: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid/8.10 support/discussion.
[16:29] <mbahamonde> Pici: will do. thanks !
[16:30] <michaesaur> hello.  how do i switch back to kde3 login from kde4?
[16:31] <michaesaur> the login manager.
[16:34] <NikLP> cool I got synergy working :)
[16:34] <NikLP> can't get on the web now tho :p
[16:34] <NikLP> what do I need to allow in guarddog to allow me to connect to google etc??
[16:37] <allen> have KD3 with 2 error msg that seem to be related. at boot error reads KDE Par, under that Malformed URL and under that System/ when this began to occur I lost ability to trash as well something about io-slave and klauncher
[16:43] <allen> I would not object to anyone contacting me directly with any suggestions or options at chef11994@sbcglobal.net
[16:43] <Arlianin> !join #ubuntu
[16:44] <vilhelm> Hello... does anyone know why it lags in full screen on youtube?
[16:47] <miltone> salut à tous
[16:48] <miltone> comment ca va
[16:48] <michaesaur> how do i autoremove a kde4 update?
[16:49] <Arlianin> Hello
[16:49] <Arlianin> Can anyone please help me?
[16:50] <michaesaur> Help me first.  First come first serve.
[16:50] <miltone> #join ubuntu-fr
[16:50] <miltone> #ubuntu-fr
[16:52] <michaesaur> how do i autoremove packages from a metapackage?
[16:54] <miltone> join #ubuntu-fr
[16:54] <miltone> #ubuntu-fr
[16:54] <miltone> #join ubuntu-fr
[16:54] <michaesaur> j/ #ubuntu
[16:54] <miltone> mmm ok thank
[16:55] <miltone> join/ #ubuntu-fr
[16:55] <miltone> j/ #ubuntu-fr
[16:55] <miltone> j/#ubuntu-fr
[16:55] <miltone> join/#ubuntu-fr
[16:55] <miltone>  ppffff
[16:56] <miltone> bullshit join
[16:56] <jussi01> /join #ubuntu-fr
[16:56] <jussi01> miltone: ^^^like that
[16:56] <miltone> mmm ok jussi01
[16:56] <jussi01> :)
[16:57] <miltone> thank man
[16:57] <jussi01> no probs
[16:57] <NikLP> try "help" :p
[16:57] <Aleksander-pl> Hello. I am trying to install Brother DCP-150C printer. I've installed driver packages and configured printer in kcontrol, yet it still doesn't work.
[16:57] <desarrollo05> hi
[16:57] <NikLP> I am still looking to get my internet connection working - it fails after I installed guarddog - not sure what to do next?
[16:58] <desarrollo05> anybody write spanish?
[16:59] <jussi01> !es | desarrollo05
[16:59] <desarrollo05> jussi you write spanish?
[17:00] <desarrollo05> jussi do u write spanish?
[17:00] <Aleksander-pl> desarrollo05: go #ubuntu-es
[17:00] <jussi01> desarrollo05: no.
[17:00] <Aleksander-pl> another channel.
[17:00] <desarrollo05> ah ok...
[17:01] <jussi01> desarrollo05: type /join #kubuntu-es
[17:01] <desarrollo05> well ok...
[17:01] <desarrollo05> thx everybody..
[17:01] <desarrollo05> nice to meet you vatos y chavas!!!
[17:01] <Aleksander-pl> Anyone has any idea how to configure Brother with Ubuntu?
[17:07] <peace> how to make firestarter load on boot without asking password? :)
[17:12] <compilerwriter2> OK you gurus out there I started up an internet update to the Ibex last night.  Somewhere in the middle of the mess my dsl connection took a crap.  I now have a machine that will only boot into single user mode.  I have a usb stick installed on the back that I want to use to backup my data and then I will do a cdrom clean install.  How do I get the blasted usb stick mounted? I can't remember how manually mount an
[17:12] <Pici> sudo mount /dev/devicename /media/mountname
[17:13] <compilerwriter2> pici what should I call the thumbdrive in devicename?
[17:15] <compilerwriter2> pici I am doing something wrong it says that mount point doesn't exist.
[17:15] <Pici> compilerwriter2: no, you need to create the mountpoint.
[17:16] <Pici> its just an empty directory.
[17:16] <XMan> Donde estoy....
[17:16] <compilerwriter2> Pici so I just need to mkdir in /media?
[17:16] <Pici> !es | XMan
[17:16] <Pici> compilerwriter2: yep.
[17:16] <Pici> compilerwriter2: sudo mkdir /media/something
[17:17] <XMan> Hello...
[17:17] <XMan> bye
[17:18] <compilerwriter2> now the device doesn't exist pici
[17:20] <compilerwriter2> pici I have the mount point now how do I get the machine to see the drive
[17:21] <compilerwriter2> pici Can I get a cdrw to write from the comand line?
[17:22] <jmux> compilerwriter2: cat /proc/partitions shoud show you the detect devices and partitions
[17:23] <The-Compiler> hi vaiursch :)
[17:24] <compilerwriter2> jmux I havd sda sda1 sda2 sda5 and then I think these are the thumb.  I have sdb and sdb1
[17:25] <compilerwriter2> jmux should then try to mount sdb to the mountpoint I created?
[17:25] <jmux> compilerwriter2: no, sdb is the disk, sdb1 is the partition
[17:26] <compilerwriter2> jmux so I should then try to mount sdb1
[17:26] <jmux> compilerwriter2: yes
[17:28] <compilerwriter2> Now then I just need to copy my home directory etc to the thumb and I can start over. Am I correct Jmux?
[17:29] <jmux> compilerwriter2: If the thumb is using any linux file system (means no fat32) you should be fine
[17:30] <compilerwriter2> jmux how would I check that out?
[17:30] <jmux> compilerwriter2: mount
[17:31] <thedark> hello everyone
[17:31] <compilerwriter2> jmux is vfat ok?
[17:32] <jmux> no - that's fat32, as all sticks are normally formatted for win, which doesn't know most unix file attribs
[17:33] <thedark> I am trying to use Mplayer to "rip" rm streams, but for some reason it Mplayer as a standalone player won't play them (which would let me dump them to wave), but they will play in the Firefox plugin
[17:34] <compilerwriter2> I need to format the stick then don't I jumux
[17:34] <compilerwriter2> s/jumux/jmux
[17:34] <jmux> compilerwriter2: you should be fine, if you use tar
[17:35] <compilerwriter2> just create a tarball and write it to the stick in vfat?
[17:36] <jmux> compilerwriter2: simply tar it to the stick, somethink like tar -cf /media/stick/my-backup.tar /home/myhome
[17:39] <jmux> compilerwriter2: check out the tar manpage - I guess you would also need --preserve and probably compress it (-z or -j)
[17:39] <compilerwriter2> will do jmux
[17:40] <compilerwriter2> thanks jmux
[17:41] <compilerwriter2> One more thing jmux how does one suspend and then restart a job in the background.  I think it is a ^z and then one does something to put the process back into motion in the background.
[17:42] <compilerwriter2> jmux does one just type bg jobnumber?
[17:42] <Pici> fg to bring a process to the foreground again
[17:43] <jmux> compilerwriter2: jobs list all jobs, bg + fg <jobid> puts them where you want
[17:49] <compilerwriter2> Thanks jmux it is amazing how much one forgets when one doesn't have to use the terminal on a daily basis.
[17:58] <thedark> so nobody knows how I can get Mplayer to play .rm streams?
[17:59] <NickPresta> thedark, mplayer isn't play the real media stream by default?
[17:59] <GWillakers> thedark: send me a link to an .rm stream
[18:00] <ghostcube> thedark: hmm what codec pack si used in mplayer options ?
[18:00] <ghostcube> ffmpeg ?
[18:00] <NickPresta> thedark, try mplayer -v -v STREAMURL and see what it says
[18:01] <ghostcube> and if not playing add -playlist as option too
[18:01] <ghostcube> if this works
[18:01] <jw> hmm tried to install sun java6rte and the installation exited with errors.  no i get a msg that the apt-get database is in use ?
[18:02] <thedark> okay give me a sec, thanks for the advice
[18:05] <afeijo> its possible to reorder my accounts on thunderbird ?
[18:06] <MrKennie> not sure, have you tried dragging them?
[18:06] <thedark> sthanks ghostcube, it seems to be working
[18:07] <thedark> wonder why it doesn't work in the gui
[18:07] <ghostcube> thedark: with the playlist option ?
[18:07] <thedark> nm I take it back
[18:07] <ghostcube> lol
[18:08] <ghostcube> thedark: btw did u install w32codecs ?
[18:08] <thedark> is that in the repo?
[18:08] <NickPresta> !info w32codecs
[18:08] <MrKennie> !medibuntu
[18:10] <compilerwriter2> jmux I just realized that I have tar in the tar file I just created.  That can't be good.  Perhaps I should try again?
[18:12] <Vermux> how do I specify the interfaace wich I want to ping from?
[18:12] <NickPresta> Vermux, ping -I interface (capital eye)
[18:12] <ghostcube> sorry was afk :)
[18:13] <jmux> compilerwriter2: Shouldn't be a problem, if one of the tar'ed files is a tar
[18:14] <thedark> okay I　installed it and it worked :)
[18:14] <thedark> oy vay this command line stuff takes some getting used to though
[18:15] <cknowles> Is it possible to copy an entire install of kubuntu to another drive... i.e. if upgrading a harddrive, do an exact copy of the origional drive onto the new one so that all programs, settings etc remain without having to do a fresh install?
[18:17] <thedark> okay so now I have the url streams I want to record in a playlist.txt file, and am going to use this: mplayer -playlist playlist.txt -ao pcm -aofile mystream.wav -vc dummy -vo null
[18:18] <thedark> but how do I make sure that mplayer doesn't overwrite the previous stream when it moves to the next stream, since they are all the streams are set to be saved with the same filename?
[18:21] <thedark> come on this has to be an easy one after all that!
[18:21] <thedark> is there a way to set it to save it with a variable filename?
[18:22] <thedark> or will it by default no overwrite files and save files as mystream1.wav mystream2.wav mystream3.wav etc.
[18:24] <emremetin> deneme
[18:28] <charmed> hi
[18:29] <afeijo> I have .tif file with several images, can I see it with kubuntu?
[18:31] <ntimmy> Hi all
[18:32] <ntimmy> What named russian ubunru chanel?
[18:32] <trappist> !ru
[18:33] <ntimmy> thanks
[18:35] <emilsedgh> could someone paste his /etc/init.d/kdm file for me?
[18:41] <thedark> okay easy question:　how do I save a file with the current time from the CL? I know for the date it would be date +%b%d.mp3 for example
[18:44] <trappist> thedark: try %T
[18:45] <trappist> thedark: man strftime for more options.  if that doesn't give you anything, sudo apt-get install manpages-dev
[18:45] <thedark> The Corporation_date +%b%d%t.mp3
[18:46] <thedark> how does that look?
[18:46] <trappist> the t is case-sensitive
[18:46] <trappist> so, %T not %t
[18:46] <ntimmy> recovery /etc/init.d/kdm from apt-file search name_of_packet and reinstall  finded packet
[18:47] <thedark> cool, thanks
[18:47] <tnt_> hi all, i am an new user on ubuntu and i search how to install flah player, an persoons for me help please
[18:47] <ntimmy> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/
[18:47] <trappist> !flash
[18:48] <tnt_> yes flash
[18:48] <trappist> tnt_: I was asking the bot to help you.  refer to ubuttu's comments.
[18:48] <stdin> thedark: I just use "+%Y%m%d%H%M%S" to get a timestamp
 go www.adobe.com and follow from links  your need flash player for linux
[18:49] <tnt_> no i'am search how to use command targz and i'm not have see an help for this on the comments
[18:49] <trappist> if I just need something that will increment as time passes, I use %s for the epoch (seconds since 1970-01-01 00:00:00)
[18:50] <ntimmy> use mc
[18:50] <trappist> tnt_: tar xf filename.tar.gz
[18:50] <bayram> hi
[18:50] <tnt_> thx
[18:50] <stdin> tnt_: just install the package "flashplugin-nonfree"
[18:50] <stdin> that'll download, extract, install and set up flash
[18:50] <tnt_> ok
[18:51] <stdin> easiest way is "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" from a terminal
[18:51] <tnt_> yes i have the file (flash) but how the manip, for install i have an icon i'm clicking but it's not an install with windows
[18:52] <stdin> you don't need to do that, just run that command I posted
[18:53] <tnt_> ok ok i try just one or two minute
[18:56] <jw> i have a java program that i'd like to create a mnu item for.  what is the command and path for sun jave6 jre executable ?
[18:59] <tsb> Intrepid will still ship kde3.5 right?
[19:09] <stdin> jw: just use /usr/bin/java
[19:09] <afeijo> I have files to nobody:sambashare, but I cant save it thru my network.  Only if I change it to feijo:sambashare.  How can I improve it?
[19:09] <stdin> tsb: no
[19:15] <jw> stdin: thanks got it going with /usr/bin/java -jar x.jar
[19:25] <||arifaX> hi, my wireless won't work if I boot up without enabling it during boot. if I enable it afterwards no wlan0 is present. tried restarting networking,udev but no chance. any ideas (hp 6715b notebook)
[19:35] <Arlianin> Hello!
[19:36] <npresta> !hi | Arlianin
[19:44] <l3r1k> [Mass Message] Apologies to all clients for the network issues we're currently experiencing. Back online in approximately 1 hour.
[19:49] <webstyle> can you heklpp methi broadcom 4306?
[19:49] <webstyle> i can see wifi networks but i cant connect to them
[19:49] <webas> everytime i load kubuntu i have 1desktop only..not 4 as i choosed from compiz..neither 2..as default..how to fix?
[19:50] <ghostcube> webas: thats normal
[19:50] <ghostcube> kde has 1 workspace compiz makes 4 out of this
[19:51] <webas> kde has 2desktops by default :|
[19:51] <ghostcube> u can change this by using an different switcher miniprog
[19:51] <ghostcube> webas: not with compiz
[19:51] <webas> eh..okay
[19:52] <ImLiz> hello everyone, can anyone tell me how to edit xorg.conf???
[19:52] <ghostcube> sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:52] <ghostcube> make backup before this
[19:53] <vampdog> total noob here first time using ubuntu or linux in any form need some help on connecting to an irc network and channel
[19:53] <ImLiz> ghostcube: I've already made backup thank you :)
[19:54] <ImLiz> Also when I make the changes do I save or just close the file?
[19:55] <ntimmy> Save
[19:55] <ImLiz> Another question, anyone know how to make a user that's not root have access to  apt updates??
[19:56] <ImLiz> ntimmy: thanks
[19:57] <ntimmy> sudo useradd -m user_name
[19:57] <ntimmy> I'm do that... sudo su
[19:58] <ntimmy> and passwd to change root password.
[19:58] <ninjafury> guys, how do I upgrade from 8.10 alpha to beta. running (kdesudo "adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel") tells me I don't have kdesudo.
  apt-get install kdesudo
[19:59] <ninjafury> ntimmy: tried that, it says I've got it
[19:59] <ntimmy> Sorry for my english
[19:59] <Arlianin> Hey guys
[19:59] <Arlianin> I got a question
[19:59] <ImLiz> ntimmy: thanks again, hope it works :)
[20:00] <Arlianin> Guys
[20:00] <Arlianin> I got 64 bits Kubuntu
[20:00] <Arlianin> and i wanna play tibia
[20:00] <Arlianin> which is for 32 bits
[20:00] <Arlianin> I know a guy who made it work
[20:00] <Arlianin> but how can I make it work for me?
[20:01] <ntimmy> HZ
[20:01] <ninjafury> I'm assuming the upgrade instructions on kubuntu.org are only for Hardy users. So how do Intrepid Alpha users upgrade to the beta?
[20:02] <favro> ninjafury: they'll know in #ubuntu+1
[20:08] <ninjafury> favro: thanks
[20:12] <ImLiz> ok using sudo useradd -m user_name didn't work because the user_name already exists... anyone else know how I can make a non-root user have access to adept????
[20:15] <ImLiz> maybe by editing the secondary group in system settings??"""""""
[20:19] <Jampiter> Hi, I'm having trouble with Kubuntu freezing in KDE4, mainly when I'm using firefox. I'm forced to restart every time this happens. Any ideas on how to remedy this?
[20:20] <favro> ImLiz: afaik since adept makes changes to the system the user would need to be in the admin group
[20:20] <webas> vga is okay? jampiter?
[20:21] <Jampiter> webas: I'm not sure what that is :(
[20:21] <favro> Jampiter: they might know about that in #kubuntu-kde4
[20:21] <npresta> Jampiter: support for KDE4 in #kubuntu-kde4
[20:21] <npresta> darn, beat by a second ;)
[20:21] <Jampiter> Thanks :)
[20:21] <Jampiter> I'll ask there
[20:24] <ImLiz> favro: wouldn't that give the user total access like the root user???
[20:25] <favro> ImLiz: yes it would
[20:25] <ImLiz> yet I wouldn't want the second user to be able to mess around with the system
[20:26] <favro> ImLiz: it would need those rights as it writes files systemwide
[20:26] <favro> afaik
[20:27] <ImLiz> favro: I see, and there's no other way? Not even a way that the root user can install those applications for the second user?
[20:28] <favro> ImLiz: if the app is installed and the user starts it it should work
[20:31] <ImLiz> ok, because I have flash installed but when I sign in as the other user, I still have to install flash again :/
[20:31] <webas> how to make all links to open via firefox..instead of konqueror?
[20:32] <ImLiz> webas: make firefox you default browser
[20:33] <webas> thnx
[20:34] <ninjafury> Where does FSTAB keep its log?
[20:34] <dr_willis> Im not sure fstab has a lot..
[20:34] <dr_willis> log.
[20:34] <dr_willis> the fstab file is just where mount looks for some settings, and so forth. So any logs would be from system logs, or other services.
[20:35] <dr_willis> all logs are  normally in /var/log  if there is one
[20:35] <ninjafury> dr_willis: cheers
[20:38] <franco_> lmLiz: How do I install ia32?
[20:38] <genii> franco_: Should be a package named ia32-libs
[20:39] <franco_> yeah
[20:39]  * genii hands out a round of coffee in shiny new Kubuntu mugs
[20:40] <rocciamax> Hi all
[20:42] <rocciamax> M'e' sparita la barra delle applicazioni... qualcuno ha idea di come recuperarla?
[20:42] <dr_willis> !es
[20:42] <dr_willis> or was that French?
[20:42] <dr_willis> !fr
[20:43] <rocciamax> Ox--- sorry, did nor tealize. Twas italian.
[20:43] <genii> dr_willis: italian I beliebe
[20:43] <genii> *believe
[20:43] <coucouf> that wasn't french I can tell :p
[20:43] <rocciamax> I thought i was in it-ubuntu. Sorry.
[20:43] <dr_willis> Its all greek to me.
[20:43] <dr_willis> :)
[20:43] <rocciamax> half latin, half ghreek, in fact :D
[20:43] <coucouf> :D
[20:44] <franco__> Genii: How do I install ia32-libs?
[20:44] <rocciamax> BTW... i fiddled with ATI proprietary drivers... and now i'm without an application bar.
[20:44] <genii> franco__: Perhaps try:   sudo apt-get update       then: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[20:45] <rocciamax> Now... how do I get my application panel back?
[20:53] <senorpedro> hi folks
[20:53] <senorpedro> !java
[20:53] <senorpedro> !java-plugin
[20:54] <genii> !info sun-java6-plugin
[20:55] <senorpedro> man i have the icedtea-java7-plugin installed...is it possible to use that with firefox?
[20:57] <senorpedro> !info icedtea-java7-plugin
[20:57] <senorpedro> !howto set link icedtea-java7-plugin
[20:58] <genii> update-alternatives
[21:01] <senorpedro> !info update-alternatives
[21:01] <senorpedro> !help update-alternatives
[21:02] <senorpedro> !help java 64bit
[21:03] <webas> just install firefox and install kubuntu restricted extras via terminal only...
[21:03] <webas> if you have 64bit kubuntu or ubuntu
[21:04] <senorpedro> i need java to work in firefox
[21:04] <senorpedro> in 64bit kubuntu
[21:04] <senorpedro> everything else works perfekt
[21:04] <webas> so do in my way
[21:04] <webas> im on 64bit
[21:04] <webas> :D
[21:05] <dr_willis> !java
[21:05] <senorpedro> what did you install? icedtea-java7-plugin ?
[21:05] <dr_willis> No idea on the 64bit stuff however...
[21:06] <webas> senorpedro | sudo apt-get kubuntu-restricted-extras i guess this is the normal line
[21:06] <kiba> hi
[21:06] <webas> and then you just install firefox via adept
[21:06] <kiba> therer this thing called Filter that keep poping up
[21:07] <webas> its easy as it should be
[21:07] <senorpedro> man i did that
[21:07] <senorpedro> i have everything installed
[21:08] <senorpedro> i think my symlinks are screwed
[21:08] <senorpedro> theres no java link in ~/.mozilla/plugins
[21:08] <webas> if you have done those two things then it should work..at least it works for me in this way.. everytime i jump on linux
[21:13] <kiba> there is this filter box thingy that keep poping up
[21:13] <kiba> how do I get rid of it?
[21:15] <kiba> nvm
[21:16] <dr_willis> checked the 'disable filter box thingy' check box?
[21:19] <abdoupirat> hello every bady
[21:24] <ntimmy> what named ubuntu russian chanel
[21:25] <rickest> !ru
[21:26] <itsatrick> Why is it that Takbar Compiz still shows windows on all desktops?  It's annoying.
[21:33] <yad__> hi why is ,y text really nig as if i had 800X600 screensize altough it says that i have larger
[21:33] <yad__> really big i mean
[21:34] <phitoo> Hello all!
[21:35] <phitoo> Trying to install Intrepid as a KVM machine and I keep getting a Segmentation fault during the install process.
[21:35] <janzkarija> hello
[21:36] <phitoo> The same happens for Ubuntu, Kubuntu amd64 arch and for Ubuntu i386.
[21:36] <janzkarija> where can i find firefox.deb :S
[21:36] <janzkarija> i386
[21:36] <phitoo> Any similar experiences?
[21:36] <neoneurone> hi all. Which package provides g++ ? I have g++-4.2 but I don't have the g++ command
[21:40] <newton> ciao a tutti
[21:40] <yad__> hi i have two newbie questions for  you
[21:40] <janzkarija> minge munni siis kui te aita
[21:41] <yad__> the first one is why my screen looks like    800X600 altough the settings says larger
[21:46] <KRF> neoneurone, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=g%2B%2B&mode=exactfilename&suite=hardy&arch=any
[21:46] <benbloom> ok really simple question
[21:47] <benbloom> how do you exit a vnc session?
[21:47] <benbloom> i tried ctr+c and it doesnt do anything
[21:47] <rickest> benbloom: is it running full screen?
[21:48] <benbloom> yeah
[21:48] <benbloom> also I can't seem to get it to run unless it's full color (error message is rect too big
[21:48] <KRF> !package build-essential
[21:49] <rickest> benbloom: try pressing F8, that should give you a menu
[21:49] <KRF> !show build-essential
[21:52] <benbloom> hmm I can't remember how I get past the rect too big error
[21:52] <neoneurone> KRF, found it. Thanks
[21:52] <rickest> did F8 help benbloom
[21:53] <benbloom> yes
[21:53] <benbloom> that does the trick
[21:53] <benbloom> thanks! (typing now from my other computer via vnc)
[21:54] <benbloom> rickest: is there a way to make a larger resolution fit in a smaller oone?
[21:55] <benbloom> I guess that wouldn't really work now that I think about it
[21:56] <rickest> benbloom: http://kvm.qumranet.com/kvmwiki/FAQ#head-0e277db4c2a9b0e5da11422f5245530fe972cd8a
[22:01] <zer0o> hi i have a slow flash streaming even if have a high speed internet connection, can anybody help?
[22:01] <webas> try ubuntu channel to ask as well
[22:01] <zer0o> i have kubuntu
[22:02] <zer0o> if i try there they'll send me here :D
[22:03] <webas> :D
[22:03] <webas> you use firefox?
[22:04] <ntimmy> Yes and opera. Opera the best.
[22:04] <benbloom> thanks rickest, seems simple enough
[22:04] <grendal_prime> when you ssh into a box. the fingerprint check that happens. is it checking against  /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key.pub ?
[22:05] <zer0o> webas: yes
[22:07] <webas> cant help
[22:07] <zer0o> y?
[22:07] <afeijo> ppl, can I have my home shared folders thru ssh as a folder on /mnt/ ?
[22:07] <afeijo> I'm at office
[22:08] <zer0o> alright then just tell me how do i sudo open ksysguard to modify the nice value of my movieplayer
[22:08] <zer0o> ?
[22:09] <snikker> how can i see the information displayed at boot ?
[22:10] <busfahrer> Hi. I want to install nvidia-settings, but when I try to, it would remove nvidia-glx-new, which I assume is my video driver. It also suggests to install nvidia-glx-legacy. My card is fairly recent (7600GS). Any help on how to get nvidia-settings installed?
 envyng can help to you
[22:12] <busfahrer> ntimmy: It doesn't seem to be available in the repository. I'm using Kubuntu 7.10 i386 by the way.
[22:12] <ntimmy> working from X11
[22:12] <ijn> hi all
[22:12] <ijn> where to install manually the file .so in order to play flash in konqueror?
[22:12] <ijn> can anyone help?
[22:13] <ijn> is the version 10 of adobe flash
[22:13] <ijn> and i want it to install it like I do in firefox
[22:14] <ntimmy> see /usr/lib
[22:14] <ijn> just put the  .so file in usr/lib/firefox
[22:14] <ijn> but where it goes in  for konqueror?
[22:14] <afeijo> ppl, can I have my home shared folders here in my office on a folder in /mnt/ ?
[22:16] <Jampiter> Hi, how do I switch on antialiasing for 3D effects with onboard graphics?
[22:16] <Arlianin> Hey
[22:16] <Arlianin> Anyone here has ever played Tibia?
[22:19] <ntimmy> http://www.ehow.com/how_2033422_install-plugins-konqueror.html
[22:19] <Arlianin> Anyone has played Tibia?
[22:19] <ntimmy> about plugins for konqueror
[22:20] <ntimmy> google know all
[22:21] <ign0ramus> hey all.  how do i stop ksystraycmd to stop displaying all open windows in the systray (kicker)?  it just started happening after i installed kde4.1.2...
[22:22] <ign0ramus> i can kill the task, and that works for the session, but it doesn't appear to be a package that can be removed (I have no need for this 'feature')
[22:41] <RenzoreK> Are there any half decent graphical dockbars that work for KDE other than ksmoothdock? any others in the repos??
[22:43] <jussi01> RenzoreK: awn is good, even though its not native, it works well.
[22:49] <kj2222> can any one help me.... how   can  I tell if I have the unrar  program installed on my system?
[22:53] <blacksands> what is the file extension
[22:54] <blacksands> is it a tar.gz?
[23:07] <invsblduck> anyone here using a GeForce 8600 GT w/ nvidia-glx driver ?
[23:08] <dr_willis> Hmm.. got an 8800gtsxxx here.
[23:09] <dr_willis> I do seem to recall some others with issues with 8600's but ive no personal experience with them
[23:09] <invsblduck> i just placed an order for one (for my work pc).
[23:09] <invsblduck> was gonna run kubuntu with it.
[23:10] <genii> dr_willis: I'v got also an 8800 gts
[23:10] <dr_willis> invsblduck,  its very likely - you will have no issues at all.
[23:10] <invsblduck> i'm guessing i can make it work fine, but i wanted to hear some success stories first :)
[23:10] <invsblduck> coolness
[23:11] <dr_willis> most of the issues i recall was with the older nvidia drivers.
[23:11] <genii> my 7600gt and 8800gts both work flawlessly under 8.04 with proprietary drivers
[23:11] <dr_willis> i salmost got a 8600 for this box.. then spurged on the 8800.. then the newer ones came out  2 weeks later.. :)
[23:11] <invsblduck> genii: great, ty
[23:18] <invsblduck> dr_willis: i've made that mistake before :)
[23:18] <invsblduck> dr_willis: now i always see what's on the horizon before i purchase..
[23:19] <invsblduck> (of course that could lead to an infinite waiting game :)
[23:19] <dr_willis> invsblduck,  :) yep. but it was the best value at that time.
[23:19] <dr_willis> and it does the job. I rarely game.. but it has plenty of power for when i do game
[23:19] <invsblduck> so, kubuntu is like the best linux distro i've ever used
[23:20] <invsblduck> kde 4.1.x of course
[23:20] <invsblduck> i'm a brand new convert
[23:20] <invsblduck> i've been using debian for a long time (~10 yrs), and gentoo for a long time
[23:21] <invsblduck> i even built a 32-node distcc compile farm for gentoo i was so into it...
[23:21] <armando> hola a todos
[23:21] <armando> alguien q sepa ubunut
[23:21] <armando> soy nuevo en esto
[23:21] <genii> !es
[23:22] <armando> gracias
[23:23] <invsblduck> but i don't think i'm ever going back...i installed hardy on my new dell laptop, and it's pretty much like a dream (except for one inexcusable thing ;) ...
[23:23] <coreymon77> which is?
[23:23] <invsblduck> i've always been too proud to look at ubuntu
[23:23] <invsblduck> "it's for noobs" etc.
[23:23] <invsblduck> i'm really impressed, it's really great. :)
[23:23] <deardeath> Greetings!
[23:24] <deardeath> Who would be kind enough to help out a noob with Display related issues on Hardy?
[23:24] <invsblduck> coreymon77: an atkeyboard.c bug from 2005 related to acpi that causes my keyboard to go nuts when i type
[23:24] <coreymon77> oh, cant help you with that
[23:25] <invsblduck> no. apparently not.  i've been reading launchpad bug reports and kernel.org bug reports for a week, and it's really confusing
[23:25] <invsblduck> i've never seen anything like it in my history of using linux
[23:26] <invsblduck> and it's *years old* ... i don't get it.
[23:26] <dr_willis> old bios bug they cant get a kernel patch to fix ?
[23:26] <invsblduck> seems to affect a lot of ubuntu users, i've never seen it before for some reason
[23:26] <dr_willis> acpi=off  i imagine is the normal suggestion?
[23:26] <invsblduck> dr_willis: right
[23:27] <invsblduck> dr_willis: brand new bios on my dell notebook
[23:27] <dr_willis> Icve had to do that on some of my machines for ages.. then suddendly a new disrto/release - fixes whatever issue it was.. and i dont need it any more
[23:27] <dr_willis> 'brand new laptop' = BINGO.. :) exactly what i had to use it for last time
[23:27] <invsblduck> hehe
[23:27] <dr_willis> bios makers/laptop makers tend to do 'weird' things at times.
[23:28] <deardeath> Anybody around to help out?
[23:28] <dr_willis> My laptop was running its clock at like 10x normal speed.. every 6 min.. the clock would show an hr had passed.
[23:28] <dr_willis> a bios update fixed that
[23:28] <dr_willis> invsblduck,  its possile the next ubutnu release might fix your issue also.
[23:28] <genii> dr_willis: I had a box like that too
[23:28] <invsblduck> deardeath: what's up?
[23:29] <invsblduck> dr_willis: it's incredible to see a bug report that started in 2005 and was last modified 1 week ago
[23:29] <invsblduck> dr_willis: apparently it's not fixed in 2.6.27, which is targeted for 8.10
[23:29] <deardeath> I installed Hardy few hours ago, and have been trying to deal with its graphical issues.
[23:29] <dr_willis> if the bios makers are making the bug.. :) or common mistake.. or making the same mistake a dozen different ways...
[23:29] <webas> ati card deardeath?
[23:30] <deardeath> My computer's video card (Nvidia FX5200) supports 1024/768 60hrtz at Windows.
[23:30] <deardeath> Though somehow I cannot seem to get to that point on Ubuntu
[23:31] <dr_willis> deardeath,  lets see common checklist.. you did install the nvidia drivers? you are using a DVI or Analog cable?
[23:31] <invsblduck> deardeath: i'm new to ubuntu, but i heard that nvidia-settings and nvidia-glx are good things to have :)
[23:32] <deardeath> I had them both, and I'm pretty new ot Linux.
[23:32] <deardeath> well not new but have been a newbie for many years
[23:32] <deardeath> The odd thing is 8 months ago the ubuntu I installed worked perfectly with my graphics card.
[23:32] <deardeath> Though this one won't.
[23:34] <invsblduck> egrep '\(EE' /var/log/Xorg.log.0
[23:34] <invsblduck> any useful errors?
[23:34] <invsblduck> bah
[23:34] <invsblduck> /var/log/Xorg.0.log i think
[23:35] <deardeath> I'll have to check that out.
[23:35] <deardeath> actually let me get some sleep and I'll drop by here again.
[23:35] <deardeath> Cheers
[23:43] <Ybeddyj> i'm using kubuntu intrepid, when i click on any of my other disk partitions nothing happens ... its as if i didnt click them....is there a package i'm missing that allows it to mount the partitions when i click on them...
[23:44] <genii> Ybeddyj: #ubuntu+1 for intrepid
[23:44] <Ybeddyj> tk you