ryanakcaI have an sbuild/schroot setup... I'm building a source package that provides multiple binaries, and I was wondering if it was possible to build only one of the binary packages (since I'm only testing an app included in one and I don't want to bother building the others)00:49
RAOFryanakca: Generally, no.00:57
ryanakcaRAOF: bummer, thanks01:06
* ryanakca does wish that there were a better way than to rebuild kdebase-runtime everytime he tries somethig01:06
RAOFDoes kdebase-runtime actually _support_ only building part of it?01:09
RAOFAlso, distcc and or ccache are likely to be your friend.01:10
ryanakcaRAOF: I had icecc before I reinstalled Intrepid... but this time around I foolishly took amd64 while all of the other computers on my LAN are i386... but I'll look into ccache, thanks :)01:13
Hobbseeajmitch: eagles ban evasion, and me being incompetent at nick banning, it seems.02:08
* Hobbsee usually goes for hosts02:08
* ajmitch dodges the pointy stick02:09
Hobbseeajmitch: do a /lastlog eagles and you'll see why.02:09
* Hobbsee eyes the bantracker with interest, noting that some of the mroe recent trolls have been here under other nicks.02:18
slestaki think i have spotted a problem with II breaking other releases.  is a kernel dev available to discuss?  I was at ubuntu+1 but no joy there02:20
slestakwhen i installed II on sda2, i got xorg breakage on sda3 gutsy install.  nvidia driver would not load on the gutsy partition after reboot.02:22
wgrantslestak: This isn't the channel.02:22
wgrantslestak: Perhaps #ubuntu-kernel.02:22
wgrantUnlikely #ubuntu-devel.02:22
wgrantDefinitely not #ubuntu-motu.02:22
slestakwgrant: tyvm02:22
ajmitchassuming it's a kernel problem at all...02:23
csilk  pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy: Depends: libgtk2.0 which is a virtual package.02:26
csilkaccording to packages.ubuntu.com it is NOT a virtual package02:26
csilkany ideas whats happening here?02:27
wgrantajmitch: #ubuntu-kernel is more likely than here, at any rate.02:27
wgrantcsilk: -002:27
wgrantYou're missing the -0 from the end.02:27
csilkahha, thats what happens you try packaging at 2:28 am.. thanks wgrant :)02:28
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ElbrusI have this package I am building (bug 172804), but it depends on bug 275688 and bug 27615103:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 172804 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] winff - GUI ffmpeg batch video converter" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17280403:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 275688 in fpc "Please sync fpc 2.2.2-3 (universe) with patch from bug #260464" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27568803:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 276151 in lazarus "Please sync lazarus 0.9.24-0-12 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27615103:20
Elbrusespecially the fpc sync is somewhat of an issue (newer upstream version)03:20
Elbrusanybody who can tell me how I should procede with 275688?03:21
wgrantWhy do we want this for Intrepid?03:21
Elbrusall packages work and build in my ppa03:21
wgrantWe are waaaay past FeatureFreeze.03:22
StevenKAnd "Please sync fpc 2.2.2-3 (universe) with patch from bug #260464" doesn't make sense03:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 260464 in fpc "fp-units-gtk2 has undefined references due to GtkFileSystemError removal from GTK" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26046403:22
ElbrusOk, so I should wait till after Intrepid? What can I do in the mean time?03:22
wgrantYou can wait, or you can fix bugs. Ideally the latter. We need more bugfixes.03:23
ElbrusStevenK: what should I do to clarify?03:23
Elbruswgrant: I have the fix for 260464, but I guess because of the newer upstream version it is not wanted?03:24
wgrantBug #26046403:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 260464 in fpc "fp-units-gtk2 has undefined references due to GtkFileSystemError removal from GTK" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26046403:25
wgrantElbrus: It looks fixed to me...03:25
Elbruswgrant: what do you mean?03:25
ElbrusThe problem is that the old version has more issues.03:26
wgrantBug #260464 appears to be fixed.03:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 260464 in fpc "fp-units-gtk2 has undefined references due to GtkFileSystemError removal from GTK" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26046403:26
Elbruswgrant: that is right, but the new version from debian had the same issue03:26
Elbrusso I had to apply the same patch03:26
wgrant  * Added dpatch to fix fp-units-gtk2 undefined references (LP: #260464)03:27
wgrant   - Safe to drop on next sync, Debian has a fixed version03:27
wgrantDoesn't look like it to me.03:27
Elbrusdisregarding the changelog mention, that is there because my package builds on debian03:27
ElbrusI also reported bug 260464 and discussed that with jdong03:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 260464 in fpc "fp-units-gtk2 has undefined references due to GtkFileSystemError removal from GTK" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26046403:28
wgrantThat is the bug I'm talking about, yes.03:28
Elbrusthat is how that remark arrived in the changelog03:28
Elbrusdjong "gave up" on the current version and suggested I try syncing from debian03:29
Elbrusthat works for me :)03:29
wgrantIt looks more like he fixed it, to me.03:29
Elbruswgrant: what I mean, after the fix of bug 260464 my winff package still did not build due to errors, djong got worried and suggested the sync03:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 260464 in fpc "fp-units-gtk2 has undefined references due to GtkFileSystemError removal from GTK" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26046403:30
ScottK-laptopI don't think jdong 'gives up'.  I think he gets distracted by other, shinier crack.03:31
wgrantElbrus: You said "I have the fix for 260464", but it's already fixed.03:31
ElbrusScottK-laptop: sorry, not given up, but he mentioned he "would regret that he was the last uploader".03:31
ScottK-laptopI've been there.03:32
* wgrant too.03:32
Elbruswgrant: I mean, I have the fix for bug 27568803:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 275688 in fpc "Please sync fpc 2.2.2-3 (universe) with patch from bug #260464" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27568803:32
ScottK-laptopRemind me to never, ever sync python-numpy from Debian Experimental again.03:32
Elbrus(my .diff is attached as patch to the bug)03:32
wgrantElbrus: We don't want a new upstream version without very good reason.03:32
Elbruswgrant: ok. I guess I just have to wait then.03:33
ScottK-laptopDear Launchpad: When I'm looking at the UBUNTU sponsorship bug list what posesses you to think I want to look at Debian or upstream bugs?03:34
* Elbrus goes to fixing other bugs :)03:34
wgrantScottK-laptop: Launchpad has no idea that you are talking about Ubuntu. That team is a team - it has no affiliations with a distro.03:35
wgrantScottK-laptop: You could filter /ubuntu/+bugs by subscriber.03:35
ScottK-laptopwgrant: Or I could get grumpy and kvetch some more about how Ubuntu isn't a priority for LP developers.03:36
ScottK-laptopWhich would be more fun?03:36
wgrantScottK-laptop: That one sounds good too.03:37
ScottK-laptopIt's OK though, I'm currently focusing my ire on cbds.03:39
ScottK-laptopApparently if you've only a single binary package it considers the .install optional and just installs everything into the one package.03:40
ScottK-laptopWhen you're trying to make an existing complex package only build one binary, that's not what I want.03:40
jdongScottK-laptop: well I got scared with fpc when the proposed fixes started escalating to syncing the whole compiler stack from Debian....04:34
jdongat first if just a 10-line patch fixed the problem that's within my comfort zone, but I've learned when to stop over these years I've been around :)04:34
ScottK-laptopBTW, I understand backports is calling to you jdong.04:36
jdongScottK-laptop: I've heard too; I'm trying to catch up on everything that has been bombarding me...04:37
CarlFKwhat is the name of the #channel for media-ubuntu ?04:40
ElbrusScottK-laptop, jdong: it was not my intention get the name wrong, my first time remark was right. (but djong would be close to Dutch thats all ;)04:40
ScottK-laptopElbrus: I noticed the transposition, but figured it was a simple typo.  I'm just giving him grief.04:41
Elbrusjdong: so I am sorry, I hope no hard feelings...04:41
* ScottK-laptop decides to finish the bag of dark chocolate peanut M&M's.04:58
* wgrant steals them first.04:59
jdongElbrus: ack my ping script isn't working; no hard feeling at all. Sorry I wasn't able to help you further with FPC05:03
jdongElbrus: it's just out of my comfort zone and I'd rather not make a mistake that affects other Ubuntu users arising out of my ignorant poking around :D05:04
RAOFHm.  Anyone want to comment on a possible gnome-do FFe?  Most of the diff is in adding new upstream icons, and it's now got a gconf schema which'll allow us to have it autostart without popping up on boot.05:55
RAOFThere are also some cosmetic fixes, and a bugfix that I'll want to grab reardless.05:57
RAOFGah.  Being upstream's release guy and a MOTU is often cool, but not so much here :)05:58
RAOFHere's a diffstat http://paste2.org/p/8282206:05
HobbseeRAOF: got testing packages anywhere?06:09
RAOFHobbsee: Not yet.  I can run them up easily if you'd like06:10
HobbseeRAOF: doesn't look like much of a difference.  *shrug*06:15
HobbseeRAOF: new icons are good.06:16
RAOFI'm just cutting a tarball and building a testing package for you.06:16
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RAOFHobbsee: http://www.cooperteam.net/gnome-do_0.6.1.0-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb06:34
HobbseeRAOF: erm...06:34
RAOFOh... you'd like one of (a) source package or (b) i386?06:35
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RAOFHobbsee: http://www.cooperteam.net/gnome-do_0.6.1.0-0ubuntu1.dsc06:36
HobbseeRAOF: i38606:36
RAOFHobbsee: Right.  I'll just update my i386 builder.06:37
HobbseeRAOF: sorry :)06:37
RAOFNo problem :)06:38
* NCommander feels the urge to unleash his inner geek06:40
RAOFNCommander: Review Do, then!06:40
RAOFWhoops.  Need some debhelper gconf loving, apparently.06:42
* NCommander is debating how much he likes the Oxygen icons on revu06:44
ajmitchHobbsee's reviewing?06:46
Hobbseeajmitch: i'll try it out :)06:48
ajmitchshocking :)06:48
StevenKNCommander: You were after me?06:50
NCommanderStevenK, I needed some help uploading things to Debian :-)06:50
* StevenK goes AFK06:50
NCommanderajmitch, there's got to be something in the DPM about running away from work06:51
siretartajmitch!! :-)06:51
ajmitchhow are you?06:51
siretartI'm doing okay, how are you?06:51
didrocksmorning :)06:52
NCommandersiretart, I wanted to talk to you about the ghc transition06:52
ajmitchgood, busy06:52
ajmitchsame as usual :)06:52
siretartNCommander: try sistpoty ;)06:52
siretartsame here06:52
* NCommander fails06:52
NCommandersiretart, so when is people.ubuntuwire.colm returning06:52
* ajmitch thought that was imbrandon's box 06:53
siretartI've been working on ffmpeg lately, that package is a source of enduring joy I tell you06:53
* siretart thought that as well06:53
siretartyou might want to ask imbrandon06:53
siretartajmitch: I just saw a question regarding authtool on ubuntu-devel, maybe you want to reply there?06:54
StevenKNCommander: I'll upload stuff to Debian if you come to UDS.06:54
NCommanderStevenK, fine. Get me sponsorship06:54
* NCommander will fail out of an EMT class to get these things uploaded!06:54
ajmitchsiretart: yeah, it really should have a removal request put in06:54
NCommanderStevenK, there is a chance I can make FOSSCamp if I get sponsorship06:54
ajmitchStevenK: even I uploaded something for him to debian06:55
NCommanderStevenK, he got free FTBFS fixes from me, redeemable in Debian, Ubuntu, Hurd, or Red Hat/CentOS/Fedora06:55
* ajmitch wonders if he can redeem it with openoffice.org on debian gnu/hurd06:55
NCommanderajmitch, ooooh, that's just wrong.06:56
NCommanderajmitch, Duke Nukem Forever will be released bytime OOo finishs building on Hurd06:56
ajmitchit'd keep you busy for a bit06:56
* StevenK is trying to fix pacemaker06:57
StevenKI managed to fix ksimus.06:57
NCommanderajmitch, actually, we did port it for m68k ...06:57
StevenKCacao I got working too06:57
NCommanderStevenK, whats wrong with pacemaker06:57
NCommanderStevenK, what my tip any help?06:57
StevenKNCommander: No, since I'd managed to get it working when you re-surfaced :-P06:58
NCommandersorry ;.;06:58
NCommanderpacemaker is FTBFSing, or something worse?06:58
StevenKpacemaker is just packaging stuff06:58
NCommanderIt's got an outstanding FTBFS bug :-)06:59
NCommanderStevenK, I've got a fix for makedumpfile07:00
NCommandercare to upload once I finish testbuilding07:00
StevenKTo sid or Intrepid?07:01
NCommanderI know not to try you for sid uploads :-)07:01
NCommanderajmitch, would you please review codeblocks for me if possible?07:02
NCommanderW: makedumpfile source: ancient-standards-version (current is 3.8.0)07:02
NCommanderThis package hasn't been touched in ages07:02
StevenKI want to upload ksimus and pacemaker, but I need to fix pacemaker first07:02
NCommanderI have a debdiff ready for you07:02
* StevenK writes a .install file with the help of dh_install --fail-missing, grep, cut and sed07:03
NCommanderThat's the way to do it07:03
NCommandernice, gstreamer is broken07:05
NCommanderStevenK, can you also reset the build records on some packages on ia64 for me?07:07
NCommanderis there a flag to make gzip keep the original file?07:10
RAOFBah.  I was just looking in the wrong place.07:11
NCommanderRAOF, for what?07:11
RAOFHobbsee: http://www.cooperteam.net/gnome-do_0.6.1.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb07:12
RAOFNCommander: For the gconf schemas the new package installed.07:12
StevenKI wonder if this Do leaks like a sieve07:12
* StevenK hides from RAOF07:12
NCommanderRAOF, you know if anyone is working on the gstream FTBFS?07:13
RAOFStevenK: No, we already fixed that gtk-sharp leak :P07:13
StevenKRAOF: I know, I'm baiting :-)07:13
NCommanderHow does a mono project leak?07:14
NCommanderIsn't C# susposed to have GC?07:14
StevenKLike a sieve07:14
RAOFYes.  But the world is full of useful C libraries.07:14
RAOFIn particular, GTK!07:14
NCommanderStevenK, http://pastebin.ca/1220497 - plz upload :-)07:14
RAOFThis Do _also_ won't spontaneously consume a core.07:15
RAOFIt seems we also want to rebuild monodevelop-boo07:15
* NCommander needs to annouce his intent to remove gtk1.2 from the archive07:16
RAOFBut how will we install xmms! :P07:16
StevenKNCommander: Why are you not calling dh_installman any more?07:16
directhexbut how will we use vmware!07:16
RAOFdirecthex: Say _what_?07:17
NCommanderStevenK, because the makefile installs the manpage into the proper place. dh_installman is more for cases when the package provides a manpage that isn't included by upstream07:17
NCommander(i.e., one you write and include in debian/*)07:17
directhexRAOF, vmware-agent is the executable you run on a vmware guest to handle things like window-resize-desktop-resize linking. and last i checked, it was linked against gtk1.207:17
NCommanderStevenK, so I'm creating a 160 task bug in Launchpad :-)07:18
StevenKNCommander: Eeeek!07:18
StevenKNCommander: Bad!07:18
NCommanderStevenK, removal of gtk1.2 tracking bug07:18
NCommanderI want gtk1.2 dead for jaunty07:18
StevenKsteven@liquified:~% apt-cache rdepends libgtk1.2 | wc -l07:19
NCommandermcasadevall@blacksteel:~/src$ apt-cache rdepends libgtk1.2 | wc -l07:19
NCommanderWTF is wrong with your setup :-)07:19
* StevenK haz Hardyz07:20
NCommanderI think its a worthwhile goal07:20
StevenKI think reducing what uses GTK 1.2 is worthwhile, but not removing it07:21
NCommanderwhy not on removing it?07:21
StevenKBecause 160 removals/ports is a large amount of work07:22
NCommanderso have it span multiple releases07:22
NCommanderAnd its less than 160, since there are about 20 theme packages, 5 for gtk1.2, some packages (e16menueditor for one) that probably can be removed, etc.07:22
StevenKHave you discussed this with seb128?07:23
StevenKAnd upstream? :-)07:23
NCommanderUpstream - Debian?07:24
StevenKNo, upstream being GTK upstream07:25
NCommanderdidn't they stop supporting 1.2 yearsago?07:25
StevenKI'm not sure07:26
NCommanderI'll talk to seb12807:28
NCommanderAlthough I would be curious to see if Launchpad could handle a 160 task bug without grinding to a halt07:28
directhexcan it handle a 16 task bug without grinding to a halt?07:28
* StevenK has played that game07:29
directhexoh, yeah, no more loki installers for commercial games! :o07:29
RAOFSo... no-change rebuilds _just_ add a build1 changelog entry, right?  No maintainer mangling, etc?07:32
* RAOF uploads monodevelop-boo, then.07:32
RAOFActually, no.  Check for launchpad bugs first!07:34
StevenKThere's a bug?07:34
RAOFNo, there isn't.07:34
RAOFI was just checking that.07:34
RAOFObviously no one uses it, or they'd have noticed that it's not installable.07:35
NCommanderRAOF, the best types of packages :-P07:38
NCommanderStevenK, so makecoredump ...07:38
* StevenK pushes the upload time back07:38
* NCommander pushes StevenK a time zone forward07:39
StevenKI'm +11, there isn't much more forward07:39
RAOFHobbsee: Having gnome-do fun?07:39
* StevenK refuses to move to New Zealand07:39
* NCommander reachs down from the sky and drops StevenK somewhere in Washington State07:40
StevenKNCommander: dpkg-source: warning: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but there is no XSBC-Original-Maintainer field07:40
NCommanderStevenK, the maintainer has an @canonical.com email ...07:43
NCommanderOk, strictly speaking the policy says ubuntu.com ...07:44
NCommanderStevenK, I assume you want me to fix it07:45
ajmitchStevenK: you know you want to move to NZ...07:49
NCommanderStevenK, I need to run for a few minutes, bbiab07:50
StevenKNCommander: Nah, I can deal07:54
StevenKNCommander: makedumpfile uploaded08:05
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NCommanderThank you StevenK08:44
NCommanderStevenK, question; is it possible to retroactively promote something to main to resolve a bug in a released version?08:54
StevenKNCommander: Certainly08:55
StevenKNCommander: Requires an MIR and approval from ubuntu-mir08:56
NCommanderStevenK, I think it was bumped in a later release to main08:56
mr_pouitNCommander: that's the contrary (xubuntu was demoted to universe)08:56
NCommandermr_pouit, but xubuntu was in main dapper/feisty/gutsy08:57
* NCommander beats his head on his desk08:57
NCommandercan you recommend something in universe from main?08:58
NCommander(I figure thats the next best alternative since it strictly speaking isn't a depends08:58
directhexsuggests only, and no build-deps08:58
NCommanderFigured as much08:58
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HobbseeRAOF: works nicely.  Nice icons.10:46
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AnAntis DKMS something like module-assistant ?12:06
directhexyes, but automagic12:07
directhexi.e. no manual m-a a-i required on kernel updates12:07
AnAntok, what should change in my package to support DKMS ? and is DKMS going to be used in Debian ?12:08
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bigonAnAnt, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=48159012:10
ubottuDebian bug 481590 in wnpp "ITP: dkms -- Dynamic Kernel Module Support framework" [Wishlist,Open]12:10
AnAntthat means, not yet12:11
AnAntanyways, what should change in my package to support DKMS ?12:12
liwwould anyone be willing to sponsor system-cleaner 1.10 from http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=system-cleaner ? it fixes fairly severe problems (wrong packages being removed, crashes in some circumstances)12:41
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james_wI'm looking at bug 242572, it looks like a bug fix version, but the upstream changelog is very terse14:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 242572 in wxsvg "Upgrade wxsvg package to b11" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24257214:10
james_wit builds fine, but there are no rdepends to test with14:10
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james_wanyone want to back me up in uploading, or suggest an alternative course of action14:11
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cody-somervilleScottK, it may just be me but the backport of pidgin seems to disconnect MSN when people add you to their contact list :P14:31
ScottKcody-somerville: Talk to jdong.  I didn't do that one (I don't think).14:40
RainCTSomeone is asking in my LoCo's ML if it's possible to specify a fallback mirror in /etc/apt/sources.list... Is it?14:42
ScottKRainCT: Can't you just point at two mirrors and the highest version number available will get downloaded?14:47
ScottKI think that accomplishes that use case.14:47
wgrantWon't apt fall through to any other mirrors with the same version?14:48
slytherinRainCT: What do you eman by fallback mirror?14:49
slytherinRainCT: I have IITM (IIT Madras) mirror in my sources.list as well as archive.ubuntu.com. Any package which is not available at IITM mirror is pulled from a.u.c.14:51
bddebianHeya gang14:53
slytherinsuperm1: are you planning to put bluez 4.11 in PPA?14:54
sebnerhoi bddebian14:54
slytherinsuperm1: and when are we actually planning to bribe the release team to approve the exception? :-P14:55
bddebianHello sebner14:55
superm1slytherin, it's in the ppa....14:59
slytherinsuperm1: Ok. I didn't check today14:59
superm1slytherin, along with bluez gnome 1.815:00
slytherinsuperm1: I don't know how much difference it is going to make for me. But still I will test it. What about the plan to actually get it into intrepid?15:01
superm1slytherin, that will be up to slangasek15:02
slangasekbribe early and often15:02
superm1slytherin, i personally think the packages are in pretty good order and a significant improvement, etc.15:02
slytherinsuperm1: Yes, in my opinion 3.x has many blues. So upgrading to 4.x is preferred provides it doesn't create more problems.15:04
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RainCTScottK, wgrant, slytherin: OK, thanks. I wasn't sure if just listing two would work. (I didn't answer before because I'm at school right now :P)15:30
superm1slytherin, did you get a chance over the weekend to look at a possibly tooltip patch?15:31
slytherinsuperm1: nah, I was in office on Saturday also and sleeping most of the day Sunday. :-)15:32
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james_wanyone running Intrepid have 5 minutes to test something for me?15:50
sebnerjames_w: /me15:51
james_winstall xournal and try drawing with a mouse/trackpad15:51
james_wthanks sebner15:51
james_wensure "Use XInput" is turned on in the menu15:51
sebnerjames_w: kk15:51
Laneyworks fine15:52
sebnerjames_w: yep, fine15:52
james_wjust my system then it seems15:54
james_wthanks, I'll upload15:54
araif any one is interested in testing infrastructure, cr3 is giving now a session at #ubuntu-classroom16:03
sistpoty|workhi folks16:52
sebnerhuhu sistpoty|work :)16:57
sistpoty|workhi sebner16:58
sebnersistpoty|work: how is life going? :)17:10
sistpoty|worksebner: quite good, and for you?17:11
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sebnersistpoty|work: now making 3 months of vacation :P17:11
sistpoty|worksebner: wow, I envy you :P17:11
sebnersistpoty|work: not if I tell you what I have to make after vacation :P17:12
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* sistpoty|work heads home... cya17:22
lucasjames_w: great work on xournal, thank you :)17:30
james_wlucas: no problem17:31
james_wlucas: did you get hit by the flood?17:31
sebnerjames_w: btw, what now about wordpress?17:31
lucasyup, I'm PTS-subscribed17:31
james_wsebner: I didn't see your updated patch17:31
sebnerjames_w: because there is nothing to update. the fix we were talking about is in the actual debian version we merge17:32
sebnerjames_w: some days I alrady told that to you. maybe you missed it17:33
james_wsebner: your merge included 2 security fixes, and one fix for a problem introduced by the first fix.17:33
james_wA different bug about the first security fix was marked "Won't Fix"17:34
james_wso either that was wrong and we want that fix, or we want to cherry-pick the second security fix17:34
sebnerjames_w: we didn't want it but as Debian now has it we get it automatically and it doesn't hurt us I think17:35
james_wsebner: yes, but in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wordpress/+bug/269301/comments/3 it is suggested that we don't want the fix anyway17:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 269301 in wordpress "[CVE-2008-3747] - wordpress before 2.6.1 ssl problem might allow remote attackers to gain administrative access by sniffing the network for a cookie" [Undecided,Won't fix]17:37
james_wwhat do you think?17:37
sebnerjames_w: I think we just didn't want it apply manuelly but as now debian has the fix I think it's no problem to merge it17:38
james_wsebner: that's not how I read it, and the debdiff in that bug actually references the Debian upload, suggesting it was made after the fix was uploaded to Debian17:39
sebnerjames_w: well as I understand we backport ssl and fix it. or we don't backport ssl and wait until wordpress 2.6 which has ssl per default and fixed17:40
james_wsebner: ok, please prepare an upload with just the latest security fix, leaving out the SSL stuff17:47
james_wsebner: and update the merge bug accordingly please17:47
sebnerjames_w: ai ai, Sir17:47
sebnerit's Ay Ay17:48
sebnerjames_w: but for a better review I merge the acutal version und just disable the ssl fix. Seems a little bit easier and faster to me. Hope that's ok for you since you'll sponsor it17:58
james_wmake sure the changelog doesn't list the versions you didn't merge, and the version number is just an ubuntuX update from the current Intrepid version17:59
james_wotherwise MoM may do the wrong thing17:59
james_wother than that I don't mind how you get to the final diff :-)18:00
sebnerjames_w: I'm wondering what speaks against a -8ubuntu1 version18:00
james_wit could work I guess18:01
sebnerjames_w: bug #27726718:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 277267 in wordpress "Merge wordpress 2.5.1-8 from Debian(Unstable)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27726718:02
james_wI'd prefer not to though18:02
sebnerbah :P18:02
james_walso because merges are harder to sponsor :-)18:02
RoAkSoAxare merges still going on?18:03
sebnerjames_w: no excuses. you are a MOTU and I want to become one (next month) :)18:03
sebnerRoAkSoAx: sure, BUGfixing :P18:03
RoAkSoAxsebner, so i can still do merges to fix bugs?18:04
james_wRoAkSoAx: sure18:04
sebnerRoAkSoAx: of course18:04
RoAkSoAxwhy didn't i know that before... lol :P xD18:04
james_wRoAkSoAx: a merge of just about anything from Debian testing will be worthwhile18:04
sebnerRoAkSoAx: but new upstream versions aren't that often bufixes :P18:04
james_wwell, not just about anything, but many things18:04
sebnerjames_w: mind sponsoring more of my future work to be able to comment on my application?18:05
james_wsebner: stick it in the queue, and if it's good I'll sponsor it :-)18:05
RoAkSoAxso should i just look for a package that needs to be bugfixed and then see in debian and merge it?18:05
james_wsebner: anything else currently in the queue that is waiting for a sponsor?18:05
sebnerjames_w: unfortunately not. that's why I said "future work"18:06
james_wRoAkSoAx: you could look at MoM, and look at the changes in Debian and see if we want them18:06
sebnerRoAkSoAx: qa.ubuntuwire.com/rcbugs18:06
nxvlRoAkSoAx: BUT, you need a FFe anyway18:06
james_wsebner: fix more bugs :-p18:06
nxvlRoAkSoAx: and the merge need to be a Bug fixing update18:06
sebnerjames_w: I will :P18:07
james_wnxvl: not for bugfix only merges18:07
RoAkSoAxoh ok cool, thnks guys :)18:07
sebnerjames_w: so, interested to comment?18:07
nxvljames_w: well, is there any? :P18:07
james_wsebner: I don't think I've sponsored enough yet, sorry.18:07
james_wnxvl: Debian is frozen too, so I would hope so.18:07
nxvljames_w: but lenny is freezed18:08
sebnerjames_w: I told about future work. so if I'll fix more stuff and you can review it and THEN you maybe want to comment?18:08
nxvli'm still uploading to sid18:08
sebnernxvl: I don't mind about experimental too :P18:08
james_wsebner: sure, I'll comment if I sponsor enough.18:09
geserHi *18:09
sebnerjames_w: cool, thx ;)18:09
sebnerhuhu geser :D18:09
geserHi sebner18:09
nxvlsebner: experimental scares me18:09
sebnernxvl: I would install more software if it wouldn't be so stupid to install that stuff18:10
gesersebner: do I see it correct that you've found a new sponsor? :)18:10
sebnergeser: sure. :) So he can comment on my application18:10
sebnerjames_w: geser is my sync ACK robot/hero :D18:11
james_wheh :-)18:11
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slytherinsuperm1: any idea what this error is - http://paste.ubuntu.com/54707/18:37
superm1slytherin, yeah it's from the script that doesnt come in the package18:37
superm1that is18:37
superm1it sits in /dev and does that18:37
slytherinso nothing serious right?18:38
superm1slytherin, i dont think it's serious, but it's nothing new either18:39
james_wsebner: would you like me to sponsor the wordpress merge?18:49
slytheringeser: have some time to look at universe part of bug #26076519:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 260765 in gst-plugins-bad0.10 "DVD playback does not work anymore" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26076519:11
geserslytherin: I can try to look at but I can't promise19:15
geserslytherin: have you tried to contact slomo?19:16
slytheringeser: No. As far as I know he is on holiday (or was till yesterday).19:17
sebnerjames_w: I'm wondering that you ask O_o19:26
james_wsebner: I thought maybe you were providing the alternate patch, but you didn't, so I assume that you want the merge sponsoring19:26
sebnerjames_w: alternate patch?19:27
sebnerjames_w: you mean cherrypick the fix?19:27
james_wsebner: yeah19:28
sebnerjames_w: well, I though doing it my way is a lot faster, easier and cleaner (smaller debdiff)19:28
sebnerjames_w: so if you are fine with it, yes, please sponsor19:28
james_wbut it's harder and slower for me :-)19:28
sebnerjames_w: everythink (also being MOTU) has a good and a bad side :P19:29
james_wit's more work for me to review the changes, as the debdiff you provide is just generally showing changes we already have, rather than the new stuff, it requires a little more work to get the package to use as the base of the update, and it requires an extra argument to debuild19:30
james_wsebner: true :-)19:30
james_wit's not a criticism of you, it's true for all merges19:30
james_wit's something I'm going to fix though19:30
sebnerjames_w: kk, I can do it the other way too, it's really no problem if you insist19:31
* sebner just wants to make james_w happy :)19:31
directhexnyerk, one of the boycottnovell types has jumped onto my moonlight ITP19:37
directhexthis is gonna get messy pretty quickly19:38
fabrice_spHi. Can somebody check bug #271630, just to see if I miss some basic data for a FFE?19:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 271630 in kwave "[sync Request] Kwave FTBFS in Intrepid" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27163019:38
fabrice_sp(james_w, for example ;-))19:39
directhexhe _IS_ a sexy beast19:40
slytherinfabrice_sp: can you not simply patch current source to fix FTBFS?19:40
fabrice_spslytherin: the problem is that FTBFS is because of KDE 419:40
james_wfabrice_sp: yeah, having a bug in the current version isn't a reason to not require a FFe19:40
james_wfabrice_sp: but if the new upstream version is the only way to fix the problem it can be a good reason to grant one19:41
fabrice_spslytherin: so I had to get new upstream version.19:41
james_wfabrice_sp: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess says you are missing a build log and an install log19:42
directhexand a donut!19:42
james_wfabrice_sp: the former could be a pointer to the log from the build in your PPA19:42
james_woh yes, the donut, don't forget that19:42
james_wwell, two, you need two motu-release ACKs for a FFe19:43
fabrice_spA virtual donut?19:43
fabrice_spoh: 2 virtual donuts then :-)19:43
directhexmmmmm krispy kreme!19:43
fabrice_spjames_w and directhex: Bug updated. For the donut, you can get it at http://www.krispykreme.com/images/pumpkinspice08_pop.jpg19:48
james_wmmm, thanks19:49
directhexew, pumpkin donut? srsly? yanks are crazy!19:49
james_wunfortunately you bribed the wrong person, I'm not a member of motu-release19:49
fabrice_spArghh: this will be 3 donuts, then!19:49
fabrice_sp(and yes: pumpkin donuts :-) )19:50
webtech_m33hello.. i am looking for a how to, to rebuild a .deb package19:50
webtech_m33 i dpkg-buildpackage and created a new .deb file19:50
webtech_m33it installs fine19:50
webtech_m33but when i do an apt-get upgrade... the system wants to reinstall the ubuntu package19:51
webtech_m33i am trying to get postfix with quote support19:51
james_wwebtech_m33: you need to increment the version number19:51
james_wwebtech_m33: or rather add a suffix19:51
webtech_m33the changelog?19:51
james_wadd +webtech_m33 or similar on the end of the version number19:52
webtech_m33i added a q at the end19:52
webtech_m33and it still wants to override it19:52
webtech_m33postfix (2.5.1-2ubuntu1q) hardy; urgency=low19:53
james_wwebtech_m33: have you rebuilt and installed the resulting .deb?19:53
* sebner still dunno if james_w insists ^^19:54
slytherinwebtech_m33: use dpkg --compare-version to actually see if your version is greater than ubuntu version19:54
sebnerhuhu DktrKranz19:54
james_wyou installed the correct .deb? not the same one as last time from your shell history?19:54
fabrice_spwebtech_m33: actual hardy version is 2.5.1-2ubuntu1.219:54
DktrKranzguten abend sebner19:54
james_wsebner: no, I'll sponsor it, I'm just on something else at the moment19:54
sebnerjames_w: ah kk, but I keep that in mind for future merges :)19:55
sebnerDktrKranz: thumbs up :D19:55
sebnerDktrKranz: now james_w sponsors my stuff so he can comment on my application ;)19:57
* cody-somerville pings motu-sru.19:58
DktrKranzsebner, so... no more sponsoring for me? \o/   \o/   \o/20:01
webtech_m33i think i have old source20:03
webtech_m33that;s why when i added a q to the end of the changelog20:03
webtech_m33it wants to over ride it20:03
webtech_m33cd ..20:07
webtech_m33poof... works now20:09
sebnerDktrKranz: you haven't sponsored for months :P20:15
Ayabaradevfil, any idea when the digikam-kde4 beta4 package will be in? I'm considering compiling from source if it's not in the near future20:18
DktrKranzsebner, you should have applied for months :)20:19
sebnerDktrKranz: /me just didn't want to be rejected ;)20:19
DktrKranzsebner, Y.R.B.20:20
sebnerDktrKranz: S! I. K. Y.20:20
sebnerRainCT:   ^ ^20:21
DktrKranzRainCT, search "achmed" on youtube (tm)20:22
RainCTbut what's Y.R.B.?20:23
directhexBLEH. i need to make my ITP reply sound good, but this guy seems to have been adding soundbites as to why it's unpackagable for hours20:23
sebnerRainCT: watch the video ;)20:23
RainCTsebner: I've seen it like 5 times :)20:23
sebnerRainCT: then you FAILED20:23
RainCTuhm.. I think I even have it on the hard disk xD  but I'm busy right now, breaking REVU :P20:24
DktrKranzRainCT, hint: You Rac### Bas####"20:24
sebnerRainCT: \o/20:24
sebnerDktrKranz: mind !ohmygod :P20:24
DktrKranzsebner, I know ;)20:25
* RainCT blames siretart for having 3 revu directories on spooky :P20:27
sebnerRainCT: what improvements can we expect? :)20:29
RainCTsebner: do you like emails?20:30
DktrKranzRainCT, -ETOOMANYEMAILS, but we like build logs :)20:30
sebnerRainCT: depending on the content :P20:30
RainCTsebner: comments ^^20:31
sebnerRainCT: hmm, ok mail notification isn't a bad idea :D20:31
RainCTman I've just done at least 6 or 7 successive uncommit-commit-push-pull sequences XD20:32
RainCTto fix stupid mistakes that is.. my brain seems to be frozen -.- xDD20:33
sebnerRainCT: hrhr20:35
siretartRainCT: uh?20:36
sebnerRainCT: btw, any news to mom, dad?20:36
sebnerMoM, DaD :P20:36
RainCTsebner: ask Canonical :)20:36
RainCTthey are *slow*20:37
sebnerRainCT: you are my connection to them :P20:37
* Adri2000 asked Keybuk something like 2 days ago, no answer20:39
sebnerAdri2000: ah, k20:39
james_wAdri2000: he's travelling20:39
Adri2000ok, that might explain it then20:40
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RoAkSoAxheya guys, does anyone knows when are the sponsored ppl for UDS are going to be announced?20:42
cody-somervilleI think sometime today20:47
stefanlsddoes anyone have an idea why bzr branch lp:~ubuntu-dev/mplayer/ubuntu  just seems to hang...?20:51
stefanlsdmaybe its a LP thing with big repo's?20:52
slytherinstefanlsd: may be it is bzr thing with bug repos. :-)20:53
james_wslytherin: your probably hitting the bug where it doesn't take in to account something it does at the start when calculating progress, when that thing can take quite some time on large remote repositories20:55
james_werr, stefanlsd sorry20:56
stefanlsdjames_w: yeah. its been about 20 minutes tho and du -h says 28K20:59
lukehasnonamecalc: ping21:04
sharmson intrepid beta, anyone know why 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log' and 'less /var/log/Xorg.0.log' would show the whole log, while 'more /var/log/Xorg.0.log' only shows the top of it21:11
sharmsis that just a bug I should file or is that a known issue21:11
cody-somervillemore should page it21:12
sharmsmore only returns slightly more than head21:14
sharmsguess I will just send a bug21:14
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RainCTyeha, e-mail notifications are up and running21:18
calche left right before i saw his ping21:18
RainCT(only for comments, and you've to subscription to each package individually though. notifications for new uploads and a "receive notifications about all my packages" will come soon)21:18
bddebianHeya ajmitch21:23
zulhey ajmitch21:28
calci look away he asks for me then quits again21:31
calcthis dude is annoying :\21:31
calcif he wants something he needs to ask it and not quit within 7m :\21:32
* calc is trying to update OOo to rc421:32
sebnercalc: \o/, so final release again pushed back?21:33
calcsebner: its set for Oct 13 i think21:34
sebnercalc: I see, thx :)21:34
calcyea unless something comes up by this friday21:35
calcbut its way too late to make it into intrepid at this point21:35
calcit might go into backports or something a later date but i don't know yet, still discussing it with colin21:35
sebnercalc: I know, you told me some days ago ^^21:36
calcsebner: ok21:41
calcis there somewhere i can download a package that is accepted but not in the general mirror system for Debian?21:41
calcbut not yet in there i mean21:41
calcor do i just have to wait a while?21:41
gesercalc: did it leave already incoming.d.o?21:44
calcgeser: yea21:44
calchow long after that does it show up on mirrors?21:45
sebnercalc: some hours21:46
gesersorry, I don't know, but I guess the push-mirrors should have it at first21:46
calcgeser: is there a list of the push mirror somewhere?21:50
calcah i found it :)21:51
calcgoogle seach of debian.org :)21:51
james_wanyone from motu-release around?22:18
ScottKYes, but I already told you yes.22:21
ScottKMon Oct  6 12:33:29 2008 -040022:22
james_wabout launchpadlib?22:22
james_wthis is a non-FFe question22:22
ScottKAh.  Sorry.22:23
ScottKWhat's the question then?22:23
james_wI'm looking at bug 242572, and I was interested in your thoughts on whether it should be uploaded22:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 242572 in wxsvg "Upgrade wxsvg package to b11" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24257222:23
james_wit looks bugfix-only to me, though upstream tries to obfuscate that with terse changelog entries, and regenerating lots of auto-generated files.22:24
* ScottK looks22:24
james_wso it's not an FFe approval question, but a question of whether it would be good for the release22:24
james_wit has no rdepends22:26
james_wthe reporter makes it sound worthwhile, but I have reservations just from the nature of the thing, so I'm reluctant to just upload it22:26
ScottKI can understand.22:26
ScottKDo you know what the 'important bug' is that is fixed?22:27
james_wno, I don't actually, good point22:28
james_wfabrice_sp: hey, I know you're in here now, could you help us decide what to do with wxsvg?22:29
james_wthe two changes explicitly named in the changelog are22:29
james_w* fixed frame accurate displaying of image from video file22:29
james_w* extended media decoder to get stream information#22:30
james_wnot really sure what they mean22:30
ScottKThe other question is, why do we care to fix it.  It's lib with no rdepends.  Is it actually useful for anything?22:31
james_wScottK: yeah, I was also thinking that. I'd even question why we have it in the archives at all. It's from debian-multimedia, so I guess it was explicitly requested22:32
wgrantWe did import a lot of stuff semi-automatically early on.22:33
james_wah, ok22:33
ScottKFrom even odder places.22:33
ScottKMaybe siretart knows.22:33
ScottKHe's involved in debian-multimedai.22:33
james_wthe date of the original update is also a bit of a concern to me22:33
james_wok, fabrice_sp doesn't seem to be around, I'll quiz him tomorrow, thanks ScottK22:41
ScottKNo problem.22:41
DktrKranzare you aware of some tricks to fetch $distro-changes mbox archives from lists.ubuntu.com using {wget,curl}? I receive "403 forbidden" error23:16
nhandler_DktrKranz: You need to set the referer to lists.ubuntu.com23:16
nhandler_This is due to the new robots.txt file23:16
DktrKranzah... weird23:17
DktrKranzbut works, thanks nhandler_23:18
nhandler_No problem DktrKranz. I found that out while I was helping emgent get his UTU script working again.23:18
DktrKranzheh, underlying code was written by me, and now I use a variant to fetch weekly packages for our newsletter23:19
DktrKranzbut I had to download it by hand :/23:20
nhandler_DktrKranz: The only issue is, now that we attach the old format of the message, you can't just search for Changed-By: _____. If you do, your count will be twice as high as it actually is.23:21
DktrKranzwasn't .changes file treated as an attachment? (and thus ignored?)23:23
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nhandler_DktrKranz: They now have it as an attachment and in the message body. The .mbox file displays both of these. I have been trying to contact emgent to help him fix the utu script again.23:24
nhandler_For my version of the script, I have it searching for a Changed-By line following a Maintainer line. This follows the old format, which ensures that it catches all of the changes.23:25
DktrKranzsounds reasonable23:27
james_wugh, debian/cdbs/1/...23:33
james_wat least the changes therein are docuemented23:34

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