[00:08] <[David]`> guys
[00:08] <[David]`> i need help with java
[00:09] <[David]`> i have java installed
[00:09] <[David]`> i've tried making the symbolic link to the firefox pugins and it works but when i try to load a java applet it says javva executable not found or some crazy shit
[00:10] <[David]`> anyone?
[00:10] <[David]`> at all?
[00:12] <genii> You have sun-java6-jre  and sun-java6-plugin          packages installed?
[00:17] <matisse> Hi, can someone tell me, how I can force my dhcp-server to give me another ip ? Alreasy tried to google, but I didn't find a shell command...
[00:20] <genii> matisse: All you can really do is release the ip and then renew it. But the assignements are made from the server side so you don't have much say about which one you get unless you also control the server
[00:23] <matisse> genii: might there be something to simulate, that the connection to me was lost ? Or is there no way just to wait disconnected because the server has its own default time, when it checks if i'm still in his network ?
[00:24] <genii> matisse: The server will always assign you same IP if lease time has not been exceeded
[00:25] <matisse> well, then i have to do it on the server side
[00:25] <matisse> thanks for the help
[00:25] <bilicki__> my torrent downloads are way too slow, compared to what they are in windows... any ideas why? I tried Transmission, Ktorrent and Deluge, with the same results
[00:25] <genii> np
[00:28] <dr_willis> bilicki__,  normally its due to ports not being forwarded properly
[00:32] <genii> dr_willis: I'd say so too
[00:49] <Delvien> Hey, i need to change colors of the selection area for QT, but i do not have KDE installed (GNOME) Qtconfig doesnt allow me to change alot of colors. Any suggestions?
[00:57] <No1PeaceDragon> got a quick question how do you get the straight line after -O-  in the following -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[00:58] <ign0ramus> No1PeaceDragon: shift + (the key above the enter key)
[00:58] <genii> No1PeaceDragon: It's the dash, usually to right of the zero
[00:58] <ign0ramus> genii: i think he's talking about the upbar or pipe or whatever you call it
[00:58] <genii> I suppose depends on your keyboard layout ...
[00:58] <genii> ign0ramus: Ah the pipe
[00:59] <genii> No1PeaceDragon: The pipe |  is where ign0ramus stated
[00:59] <No1PeaceDragon> ign ty that was it
[00:59] <ign0ramus> you're we|come ;)
[00:59] <No1PeaceDragon> gee someday I will be smart enough to figure this out
[01:00] <ign0ramus> No1PeaceDragon: until then, there's always copy/paste
[01:02] <No1PeaceDragon> lmao thats how I was doing it but figured there had to be a proper way to do it
[01:08] <vilhelm> hello anyone here that knows who to empty /var/log/auth.log
[01:09] <dr_willis> How?   just delete it.
[01:09] <dr_willis> sudo rm  whatever
[01:09] <genii> It just gets constantly re-created
[01:09] <dr_willis> I tend to clean out the archived logs..
[01:09] <dr_willis> but dont worry about the otehrs much
[01:10] <genii> Me too
[01:10] <vilhelm> i can see that someone is trying to access my ssh
[01:10] <genii> vilhelm: Change the default port to something obscure
 i'm pretty new how do i do that?
[01:10] <dr_willis> 'or use iptables and block his ip
[01:11] <dr_willis> cant that ufw tool do that easially
[01:12] <genii> vilhelm: Change the port number from 22 in /etc/ssh/sshd_config to something else (above 1024)
[01:12] <dr_willis>  ufw allow|deny [proto <protocol>] [from <address> [port <port>]] [to <address> [port <port>]]
[01:13] <genii> vilhelm: When you ssh in use syntax of :   ssh -l username ip/name -p port#
[01:13] <dr_willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFirewall
 ok thx
[01:13] <genii> np
[01:16] <Schuenemann> hey, is there any reason 'lshw' is showing my memories as DIMM, and not DDR?
[01:17] <dr_willis> perhaps the system cant tell if its ddr or ddr2 or whatever...
[01:18] <dr_willis> *-bank:1
[01:18] <dr_willis>              description: SODIMM DDR Synchronous 667 MHz (1.5 ns)
[01:18] <Schuenemann> description: DIMM 400 MHz (2.5 ns)
[01:18] <Schuenemann> on gutsy it was DDR
[01:18] <Schuenemann> I changed the motherboard after that
[01:19] <Schuenemann> maybe that makes any difference?
[01:19] <dr_willis> No idea.. its possible that lshw just cant get any better info, so prints out what it can confirm
[01:20] <Schuenemann> I don't think this motherboard would support DIMM (non DDR)
[01:20] <mefisto__> your ddr ram is still dimm
[01:20] <genii> Yup
[01:20] <genii> "dual inline memory module"
[01:20] <Schuenemann> no not DDR?
[01:20] <Schuenemann> so*
[01:20] <mefisto__> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimm
[01:20] <genii> It's a ddr dual-inline memory module, is all
[01:21] <Schuenemann> genii, how can you tell it's DDR?
[01:21] <Schuenemann> there was DIMM non-DDR before
[01:22] <genii> ddr just means double data rate. It's still a DIMM physical profile
[01:22] <Schuenemann> but there is DIMM which isn't DDR, right?
[01:22] <genii> SDRAM
[01:23] <Schuenemann> very old
[01:23] <genii> Yes
[01:23] <Schuenemann> couldn't be 2,5ns I suppose
[01:23] <Schuenemann> okay, thanks
[01:23] <genii> Nowhere near that. Something like 60ns
[01:23] <Schuenemann> was just wondering why it isn't shown as DDR anymore
[01:24] <DaSkreech> Anyone have any experience with grub error 2?
[01:26] <dr_willis> 2? Thats a low one.. :)
[01:26] <dr_willis> cant say ive ever seen that one
[01:26] <dr_willis> # 2 : "Selected disk doesn't exist"
[01:26] <dr_willis> This error is returned if the device part of a device- or full filename refers to a disk or BIOS device that is not present or not recognized by the BIOS in the system.
[01:27] <dr_willis> sounds like (hd0,0) or whatever, is incorrect.
[01:27] <mefisto__> DaSkreech: do you have botha sata and ide hard disks?
[01:28] <DaSkreech> mefisto__: No sata at all
[01:28] <dr_willis> well.. i would check the bios  - be sure the hds are seen...
[01:28] <DaSkreech> They are
[01:29] <DaSkreech> and I pulled everything off the system to make sure that only that drive is on the chain
[01:29] <dr_willis> sounds like may be wanting a different hd## then what esists, or is in the device.map file
[01:29] <dr_willis> or the drive is 'bad' and only partiatly showing up
[01:29] <dr_willis> does a live cd see/access it fine?
[01:58] <shadowhywind> hay all I am trying to reinstall my nvidia drivers, which is complaining about me having a xen kernel.. which i don't have installed.. How can i check if i am running a xen kernel?
[01:58] <dr_willis> uname -a
[01:58] <dr_willis> perhaps will tell
[01:59] <shadowhywind> yah that didn't say anythng, even uname -r says generic
[01:59] <manolo> hello there, for desktop effects, what is better opengl or xrender?
[02:00] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: seems to
[02:01] <DaSkreech> manolo: In theory or in actuality?
[02:02] <manolo> DaSkreech: what will work better for me in actuality
[02:02] <DaSkreech> manolo: No idea what hardware do you have ?
[02:02] <manolo> DaSkreech: GeForce Nvidia 7400 GO or something I think
[02:03] <DaSkreech> I think openGL may win when nvidia release new drivers
[02:03] <manolo> DaSkreech: Im using nvidia 177 driver...I am a linux veteran in a way, but on the gnome side of things.  Yet, I can't get effects to work on Kwin that well with OpenGL
[02:03] <DaSkreech> #kwin ?
[02:05] <manolo> DaSkreech: I'm using the standard KDE 4.1.2 effects by Desktop Settings.  I'm not using Compiz.
[02:06] <DaSkreech> manolo: Honestly it's a bit of a crapshoot right now I know people who have kwin flying and others who can't get it enabled at all
[02:06] <manolo> DaSkreech: Xrender doesn't produce artifacts, but effects don't work that well.
[02:07] <DaSkreech> #kwin would have the best info and also would be able to make the most use of your experience
[02:07] <manolo> Well I thought it was better to use Kwin over COmpiz
[02:07] <manolo> ok
[02:07] <manolo> another question is there a way to hide plasmoids and have them appear only when I click Show Dashboard?
[02:07] <DaSkreech> I'm not even aware of any user stories anywhere in a central area
[02:08] <DaSkreech> Yes but it involves waiting for a few months
[02:08] <manolo> DaSkreech,good I don't want my desktop full of plasmoids all the time.
[02:08] <manolo> you using 8.10?
[02:09] <DaSkreech> I'm trying
[02:09] <DaSkreech> I installed it and now grub can't boot
[02:09]  * DaSkreech kicks grub error 2
[02:10] <manolo> you dual boot with windows?
[02:10] <DaSkreech> haven't used windows in 4 years
[02:10] <DaSkreech> Well might have not used it lnoger but I haven't had it installed for 4 years
[02:10] <DaSkreech> longer
[02:11] <manolo> good idea, well right now I believe gnome 2.24 works better than kde 4.1.2 but kde is more advanced.  I'm testing both ubuntu/kubuntu 8.10
[02:12] <DaSkreech> Well yeah
[02:12] <DaSkreech> one is version 24 and one is version 1
[02:12] <manolo> haha true, but yea I was kind of a KDE naysayer but 4.1 has turned me into a believer
[02:13] <DaSkreech> Really?
[02:13] <manolo> just hope Konqueror switches to Webkit soon
[02:13] <DaSkreech> And 4.1 isn't that good
[02:13] <DaSkreech> manolo: It won't
[02:13] <manolo> I read it would...
[02:13] <DaSkreech> not that it's much if a deal
[02:13] <manolo> darn
[02:13] <DaSkreech> You can load webkit in it
[02:13] <manolo> it won't work on important sites
[02:13] <manolo> how?
[02:13] <DaSkreech> It's what konqueror does
[02:13] <DaSkreech> it's just a front end viewer for backends
 is this something I nee to worry about
[02:14] <vilhelm> Server listening on :: port 1028.
[02:14] <vilhelm> error: Bind to port 1028 on 0.0.0.0 failed: Address already in use
[02:14] <manolo> well how do i get webkit
[02:14] <DaSkreech> make a backend for webkit and konqueror will use it happily
[02:14] <DaSkreech> manolo: Make a backend :)
[02:14] <manolo> how do I do that, a backenf
[02:14] <DaSkreech> It's not ready yet. You can use Aurora I think
[02:15] <DaSkreech> It's awebkit "test" browser
[02:15] <manolo> is it KDE?
[02:15] <manolo> trying to leave this partition out of gnome stuff
[02:15] <DaSkreech> It's certainly not gnome :)
[02:16] <manolo> another quick question, any kde-tv viewers?
[02:16] <DaSkreech> kaffiene but I can't recall if it's ready yet
[02:18] <manolo> dragon player is pretty basic
[02:18] <DaSkreech> manolo: That's it's purpose
[02:18] <DaSkreech> kaffiene is much nicer and I too can't wait till I am not useing dragon player
[02:18] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: ping
[02:20] <dr_willis> My isp.. is having issues it seems
[02:20] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: ping
[02:20] <dr_willis> wife is mad.. shes playing  http://www.buildabearville.com/ and keoe getting hung up on
[02:21] <DaSkreech> You can play that?
[02:21] <dr_willis> It plays find on linux/firefox/ here
[02:21] <dr_willis> step daughter was playing it all weekend
[02:21] <dr_willis> she dident even realize she wasent on a windows machine
[02:22] <DaSkreech> :-)
[02:22] <DaSkreech> What's the name of the Qt Webkit browser?
[02:27] <NickPresta> DaSkreech, Arora?
[02:27] <DaSkreech> arora
[02:27] <NickPresta> http://code.google.com/p/arora/
[02:28]  * DaSkreech can't spell things that don't have k in it :(
[02:28] <Daisuke_Ido> qgtkstyle...  NOT friendly with newhuman.
[02:29] <NickPresta> Daisuke_Ido, you can symlink it to Krora if you really want :)
[02:29] <Daisuke_Ido> err...  DaSkreech can, you mean
[02:29] <DaSkreech> Daisuke_Ido: Stop stealing my advice!!!
[02:30] <Daisuke_Ido> i need a smoke, qgtkstyle's got me ticked off
[02:30] <NickPresta> yes, darn
[02:30] <Daisuke_Ido> okay
[02:31] <Daisuke_Ido> it seems to work alright, but doesn't like dark themes
[02:32] <sysflow> hello
[02:33] <DaSkreech> !hi
[02:34] <sysflow> thanks
[03:05] <centaur5> Can anybody tell me where Kmail's configuration settings are stored? I thought they would be in .kde/share/apps/kmail but I guess I'm wrong.
[03:13] <DaSkreech> centaur5: hardy?
[03:13] <centaur5> DaSkreech: yes
[03:14] <DaSkreech> KDE4?
[03:14] <centaur5> Maybe I wasn't wrong. I just checked and it imported some of my settings just not all.
[03:16] <centaur5> I'm actually using Gnome in Ubuntu. Evolution just doesn't support Citadel at all.
[03:16] <DaSkreech> centaur5: Did you install kmail or kmail-kde4 ?
[03:17] <centaur5> Kmail, I didn't know there's a new package.
[03:18] <DaSkreech> .kde/share/apps It should be then
[03:19] <centaur5> DaSkreech: Yeah, I'm sorry I didn't realize it imported some of my settings. It got everything but the incoming information for some reason.
[03:19] <DaSkreech> ah ok
[03:20] <centaur5> I must say, I LOVE how when a hard drive is replaced you can drop the hidden directories back into place and no reconfiguring the desktop or applications!  :)
[03:21] <DaSkreech> centaur5: Welcome to the worst part of LInux :)
[03:21] <coreymon77> centaur5: i must say, i LOVE when i dont have to replace a hard drive
[03:21] <coreymon77> :)
[03:22] <centaur5> If only people knew that. Countless times I reinstall windows machines and they have to redo all customizations and import data files.
[03:22] <centaur5> coreymon77: How do you get out of replacing hard drives?  :)
[03:23] <DaSkreech> centaur5: wait until you've had all yourcustomizations and preferences for years until Yo ucan't remember which yuo made until you go somewhere else and try to use someone else's computer and nothing works caue it's not yours and you can't remember how to fix it cause it's been 6 years since you last had to do it
[03:23] <coreymon77> centaur5: they dont die on me
[03:24] <DaSkreech> damn You linux for being so robust and fitting to my every need!!!
[03:24] <centaur5> Oh, and importing installed application lists sucks too! I love hunting cupboards for countless cds and 99 digit installation keys to get everything back on!
[03:26] <DaSkreech> centaur5: You too will join my cry of Damn you linux for being so good to me!!
[03:28] <centaur5> Yes, I will miss those days of wonderful agony or semi-annual formats and spending hours redoing what I love so very much!  Stupid Ubuntu!  :)
[03:29] <DaSkreech> And it looks good doing it too!! The audacity!
[03:31] <centaur5> But in seriousness, I always heard that dropping the home directory would work just never experienced actually doing.  I think, I'm pretty sure, there was a slight orgasm when my wallpaper and panels were back to how they were when I logged back in after copying the old home over.
[03:32] <manolo> hey I know this is a kubuntu channel, but which do you think does kde 4 better, opensuse 11.1 beta or kubuntu 8.10 beta?
[03:32] <DaSkreech> centaur5: Wait till you install some program you forgot about fortwo months and it remembers the last folder you were in and the project that you were working on 2 years ago before the "Big Wipe"
[03:32] <centaur5> haha
[03:33] <DaSkreech> manolo: Suse is more polished
[03:33] <manolo> DaSkreech, specifically?
[03:34] <DaSkreech> It makes a lot of use of the Qt CSS and custom does a lot of the art
[03:35] <centaur5> Well thanks DaSkreech for helping me with something that I was just being stupid about. I'm sick of working and it's time to go eat!
[03:35] <manolo> so why do you use kubuntu then?
[03:36] <DaSkreech> manolo: RPMs suck
[03:36] <manolo> DaSkreech, true
[03:36] <manolo> you think Kubuntu will get there in terms of KDE implementation?
[03:37] <DaSkreech> If people pitch in :)
[03:37] <DaSkreech> We are already about a 1/3 of Ubuntu population
[03:37] <DaSkreech> It's getting kinda hard to ignore :)
[03:37] <manolo> yea.  Again, I'm enjoying KDE more than I thought I would, yet as I said right now Gnome feels better.
[03:38] <manolo> and don't get me wrong, KDE is great right now.
[03:38] <DaSkreech> Yeah Ubuntu puts a lot of work into making Gnome Very polished
[03:38] <DaSkreech>  Like the time that Suse puts into making KDE polished
[03:38] <manolo> yea I was using opensuse for a month or so and it worked pretty good
[03:38] <DaSkreech> As I said though KDE 4.1 is not really a Wow release.
[03:38] <DaSkreech> It's still just trying to get stuff working
[03:39] <DaSkreech> 4.2 should be a solid release
[03:39] <DaSkreech> 4.3 should be really really nice
[03:39] <manolo> does KDE keep a roadmap?
[03:39] <DaSkreech> part of the fun of being with KDE now is you can see where things are going and jump in with bug reports etc
[03:39] <cuarzoliquido> i'll like to see the same work with something less heavy, like XFCE, windowmaker, fluxbox...
[03:39] <DaSkreech> there is a massive KDE bug jam every sunday :)
[03:40] <DaSkreech> #fluxbuntu
[03:41] <manolo> one thing, does kubuntu prompt restart after big updates? I just updated and there was no restart icon
[03:41] <DaSkreech> Not sure I haven't done that in a while. I know for sure it used to
[03:41] <Dragnslcr> manolo- only for kernel updates
[03:41] <manolo> ok
[03:41] <manolo> so kwin updates won't
[03:42] <Dragnslcr> That's the only time you need to reboot
[03:42] <DaSkreech> ?
[03:42] <DaSkreech> why would it?
[03:42] <cuarzoliquido> but i'm talking about a polished fluxbuntu, some of work that makes difference between XFCE and KDE 4
[03:43] <DaSkreech> cuarzoliquido: That's where you work on a better fluxbox ubuntu
[03:44] <DaSkreech> manolo: kwin is in no way a major update
[03:44] <manolo> sorry, still learning KDE
[03:45] <DaSkreech> manolo: Not a KDE thing. Unix.
[03:45] <DaSkreech> That's just the window manager
[03:45] <manolo> ok sorry
[03:45] <manolo> I know
[03:45] <DaSkreech> no more important than installing a new gedit
[03:45] <manolo> but I also saw some graphic driver updates which I would have expected to ask for restart or a restart of X at least
[03:46] <Stoffer> I have a linux partition, an ntfs windows partition and an ntfs shared partition.  I need to resize the windows partition to make it bigger by taking room away from the ntfs partition.  Is this possible?
[03:46] <DaSkreech> Ah yes that might be true though I can't hinestly ever recall being prompted to reboot X
[03:46] <manolo> okok
[03:46] <DaSkreech> Stoffer: gparted
[03:47] <DaSkreech> manolo: Not saying anything against you. I have a terrible memory :)
[03:47] <manolo> DaSkreech, does plasma right now allow to install new widgets from internet?
[03:48] <DaSkreech> if by right now you mean in this release then yes it does but there are none out there that I know
[03:48] <Stoffer> DaSkreech, is it impossible to figure out or is it fairly easy to use?
[03:48] <DaSkreech> You should be able to install macOSX widgets though
[03:48] <Stoffer> DaSkreech, I don't want to screw up all my paritions
[03:48] <manolo> hmm ok
[03:48] <Stoffer> again
[03:48] <DaSkreech> Stoffer: should be easy
[03:48] <Stoffer> DaSkreech, ok I'll try it, thanks
[03:50] <manolo> DaSkreech, it's just I've seen much more widgets on screenshots than those available rightn ow as default on the plasma widget selector/installer
[03:51] <DaSkreech> manolo: It came out in 4.0 and people made a bunch then they fully rewrote it just before 4.1 adn broke those
[03:51] <DaSkreech> Then everyone started writing for 4.2
[03:51] <DaSkreech> manolo: Oh there is a package for extra plasmoids in kubuntu not installed by default
[03:51] <DaSkreech> do a search for plasmoids
[03:52] <manolo> ok good
[03:53] <manolo> DaSkreech, take a break haha you've answered lots of questions, thanks a bunch
[03:53] <DaSkreech> Time to go home anyway :)
[03:53] <DaSkreech> Fix my broken boxen
[04:03] <ubuntu__> ok, so I'm currently running from a live cd because my install got messed up, I tried reformatting and installing from the cd but it got stuck on "scanning the mirror"
[04:04] <ubuntu__> do I need to make a new cd?
[04:05] <jonatas> algun brasileiro?
[04:15] <root> Hello People.
[04:16] <Guest22096> I am having an issue with my wifi card. The light is blinking. iwlist wlan0 scan says No Scan Results....
[04:16] <kubuser> any ideas?
[04:17] <Samushka> im new to KDE 4, is there any good guides on how to change the default (oxygen) theme in Kubuntu? (i downloadeded a file from kde-look and i just wanna know where to extract/install it)
[04:25] <NewtoUbuntu> how do I use or install kde.. I tried to find it with software installer but it wasn't there
[04:26] <NewtoUbuntu> it isnt on the options menu before I log in
[04:26] <spawn57> you use synaptic to install kubuntu-destkop
[04:26] <NewtoUbuntu> thx
[04:27] <spawn57> there's two version of kde atm, 3.5 and 4.1 ... try both if you can
[04:29] <kubuser> guys is there a wifi utility such as network-manager for kubuntu?
[04:30] <bazhang> knetwork-manager
[04:31] <kubuser> bazhang: ok cool. would this be on the default install?
[04:32] <bazhang> !info knetwork-manager
[04:32] <bazhang> hang on a sec
[04:32] <kubuser> bazhang: typing in knetwork-manager doesn't find anything....
[04:32] <kubuser> bazhang: ok.
[04:33] <bazhang> !info knetworkmanager
[04:33] <bazhang> kubuser, its optional need to install
[04:33] <Arlianin> Hello
[04:34] <kubuser> bazhang: hmmmm ok. only issue is I only have a wifi card. LOL. the pcmcia card with special dongle crapped out.
[04:34] <kubuser> bazhang: will try to put on CD or USB or something. :) thanks for your help.
[04:34] <Arlianin> bazhang: Can I download music to Kubuntu?
[04:34] <bazhang> Arlianin, sure, why not
[04:34] <Arlianin> May I ask how?
[04:35] <bazhang> Arlianin, amarok is popular to use for that
[04:35] <kubuser> bazhang: thanks. nite.
[04:35] <kubuser> :)
[04:35] <Arlianin> bazhang: so I just search in there?
[04:35] <bazhang> kubuser, see you :)
[04:35] <bazhang> Arlianin, you will need to install kubuntu-restricted-extras to play mp3
[04:35] <kubuser> :0
[04:36] <guest__> hello everyone I just finished installing flashplayer on another user and once installed it stated: "please ask administrator to remove xpti.dat from components directory of Mozilla or Netscape browser" Why? and how do I do that??
[04:36] <bazhang> Arlianin, also check !medibuntu
[04:36] <Arlianin> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[04:36] <bazhang> yup
[04:37] <Arlianin>  !medibuntu
[04:37] <chrisruls00> I'm having a little problem upgrading to KDE4 right now..
[04:37] <bazhang> !info kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[04:37] <guest__> anyone???
[04:37] <chrisruls00> when I try to install the KDE4 package it just says it is broken, how should I fix this?
[04:38] <bazhang> chrisruls00, which version
[04:38] <chrisruls00> umm, the one in the default respritory. Is there a better respritory?
[04:40] <chrisruls00> it says the Candidate version is 3.3 in Adept
[04:43] <gkffjcs> I have an instance of nspluginviewer, that has run completely amock, it's using 60%cpu. I've tried killall nspluginviewer, but the process won't die.
[04:43] <gkffjcs> is there some other way to kill it?
[04:45] <bazhang> !version | Arlianin
[04:45] <Arlianin> !shell
[04:46] <znoG_> Hey all. Is anyone aware of a "checking radio buttons or checkboxes doesn't work correctly" bug in Kubuntu?
[04:50] <sancho21_> !audiopulse
[04:51] <sancho21_> !pulseaudio
[04:51] <sancho21_> !ESD
[04:51] <sancho21_> !alsa
[04:53] <sancho21_> !alsa
[04:53] <sancho21_> !arts
[04:54] <sancho21_> !ARTS
[04:54] <bazhang> sancho21_, /msg ubottu please
[05:07] <Stoffer> gparted won't let me resize my ntfs partitions.  is there something else I need to do?
[05:08] <spawn57> ntfs-utils?
[05:08] <chrisruls00> Help! I just ran kde4 for the 1st time. When it booted up it started to play the bootup sound and then I got some sort of error. Nothing loaded after that, all I can do is start applications with alt + F2!
[05:09] <DASkreech> Stoffer: You need the ntfs-utils for gparted to do it
[05:10] <DASkreech> chrisruls00: alt+F2 -> plasma then join #kubuntu-kde4
[05:11] <Stoffer> DASkreech, not in synaptic, do I have to download it online or is it by another name?
[05:12] <DASkreech> !find ntfs
[05:12] <DASkreech> !search ntfs
[05:12] <Stoffer> just got it
[05:12] <DASkreech> bah
[05:12] <Stoffer> installed some other ntfs utilities by another name and it works now
[05:12] <Stoffer> sweet
[05:12] <DASkreech> :-)
[05:13] <Stoffer> i have to shrink my larger parition first
[05:13] <Stoffer> does it matter if I put the empty space before or after it?
[05:15]  * DASkreech shrugs
[05:15] <DASkreech> Depends on what you need it for
[05:15] <manolo> DaSkreech, sorry to bother again
[05:15]  * DASkreech bows
[05:15] <Stoffer> DASkreech, I'm taking away from sda4, and adding to sda1
[05:16] <Stoffer> with sda's 2 and 3 in between
[05:16] <manolo> I can't make amarok 2.0 beta start, it will show Splash, but nothing else.  The text on terminal is quite long ot paste here
[05:16] <DASkreech> !paste
[05:18] <manolo> DaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/54869/
[05:18] <Stoffer> wow... i won't be able to do this without somehow moving the unallocated space right next to the partition i'm trying to expand....dammit
[05:19] <DASkreech> Is Dbus running?
[05:20] <manolo> dbus-daemon is running
[05:20] <DASkreech> hmm
[05:21] <DASkreech> apachelogger: ping
[05:21] <manolo> regular amarok works
[05:22] <DASkreech> Yeah it would I suppose
[05:22] <Spragie> is kubuntu just ubuntu w/ kde?
[05:23] <DASkreech> !kubuntu
[05:23] <Stoffer> if I run gparted from a livecd, will I be able to move partitions around?  The problem is, I'm trying to take space from sda4 and add it to sda1, but I have sda2 and sda3 in between.  Somehow I have to get the unallocated space over next to sda1.  Is this even possible?
[05:24] <DASkreech> That doesn't sound like fun
[05:24] <manolo> DaSkreech so no solution for me then hehe
[05:24] <Stoffer> maybe if I resize one at a time....but I can't unmount the partition i'm currently in!
[05:24] <Stoffer> maaaaaayyyn....
[05:24] <DASkreech> manolo: It's asking for something just need to figure out how to provide it
[05:25] <DASkreech> Stoffer: There is a gparted live Cd
[05:25] <manolo> well dbus is up
[05:26] <Stoffer> DASkreech, yeah, I think it'll work if I do that.  I have an old ubuntu live cd, it should be on that right?
[05:26] <DASkreech> Running it again gives the same error?
[05:26] <DASkreech> You can boot up and install it
[05:26] <DASkreech> However for ntfs the newer it is the better
[05:27] <Stoffer> you have a point there
[05:29] <manolo> DaSkreech, removing .kde/share/apps/amarok solved it
[05:30] <DASkreech> manolo: Umm.. ok
[05:40] <Stoffer> DASkreech, well, gparted definitely seems like it'll do the job off the live CD
[05:40] <Stoffer> repartitioning now
[05:40] <Stoffer> I just hope to God this works
[05:40] <Stoffer> and I don't lose everything
[05:40] <DASkreech> That would suck
[05:41] <Stoffer> I have 6 different operations
[05:41] <Stoffer> 6 opportunities for disaster
[05:41] <Stoffer> and yeah...it's gonna take a while, lol
[05:41] <Stoffer> 1.5 hours per operation?
[05:41] <Stoffer> looks like it
[05:42] <albuntu> Stoffer : i tried gparted this days
[05:42] <DASkreech> You had pretty full drives
[05:42] <albuntu> and for me worked perfectly
[05:42] <Stoffer> yeah... it's a 250GB w/ 4 partitions and a lot of stuff I don't need anymore
[05:43] <DASkreech> rm -r
[05:43] <DASkreech> poof
[05:43] <Stoffer> it's all backed up 2 or 3 times in different volumes, so I'm not that concerned about losing stuff
[05:43] <DASkreech> 250 GB free :)
[05:43] <Stoffer> it's just the installation
[05:43] <Stoffer> yeah, well, I'm sure I can find a use for it later :P
[05:44] <Stoffer> honestly I still have a lot of space free
[05:44] <Stoffer> just 15GB of music, 10GB of pics
[05:44] <Stoffer> that's pretty much it
[05:44] <Stoffer> gparted thinks I'm using a lot more than I am
[05:44] <Stoffer> doesn't help that the windows partition is fragged all over the place
[05:44] <Stoffer> i shoulda defragged it before I did this....hmm....
[05:44] <DASkreech> You should probably defrag it
[05:45] <Stoffer> oh well
[05:45] <DASkreech> Though that would take a few hours a well
[05:45] <Stoffer> too late now
[05:46] <Stoffer> well, time for bed, we'll see what happens in the morning.  Will XP stop complaining about having no disk space left, or will it just stop because it's gone?  Stay tuned!
[05:46] <Stoffer> thanks for your help
[05:46] <DASkreech> Ha ha
[05:47] <Stoffer> g'night y'all!
[05:50] <l3r1k> [Mass Message] -------------> http://myspace.com/j0shieboo
[05:50] <l3r1k> [Mass Message] apologies, wrong alias.
[05:55] <Doc_Savage_82> hello, room...
[05:56] <DASkreech> !hi
[05:56] <DASkreech> !bye
[05:59] <Guest5711> wut
[05:59] <DASkreech> wutwut
[06:00] <Guest5711> nut
[06:00] <Guest5711> thing
[06:01]  * DASkreech laughs
[06:01] <Guest5711> so what is the latest version of kubuntu
[06:02] <Guest5711> did they find a easy fix for gcc problem with 8.04?
[06:02] <Guest5711> DASkreech does your syslog get constantly bombarded?
[06:03] <Guest5711> DASkreech does your syslog get constantly bombarded?       like connection attempt.......... non stop
[06:03] <Guest5711> I cant seem to shake off constant connection attemps
[06:05] <Guest5711> kernel	[17185357.440000] Connection attempt (PRIV): IN=ppp0 OUT= MAC= SRC=66.81.52.86 DST=XX.xx.xx.xx LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=121 ID=54793 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=2841 DPT=445 WINDOW=8760 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
[06:06] <Guest5711> is this just me or are they flooding me?
[06:06] <Guest5711> or on their target list
[06:10] <Guest5711> DASkreech
[06:10] <DASkreech> Si?
[06:11] <Guest5711> DASkreech does your syslog get constantly bombarded?       like connection attempt.......... non stop
[06:11] <DASkreech> If i have a open connection to the net then yes
[06:12] <Guest5711> web or chat?
[06:12] <Guest5711> I dont have a open connection
[06:12] <DASkreech> login attempts
[06:12] <DASkreech> hm
[06:12] <DASkreech> what kind of connection?
[06:13] <Guest5711> yeah a constant connection attemps
[06:13] <DASkreech> connection attempt I mean
[06:13] <Guest5711> kernel	[17185357.440000] Connection attempt (PRIV): IN=ppp0 OUT= MAC= SRC=66.81.52.86 DST=XX.xx.xx.xx LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=121 ID=54793 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=2841 DPT=445 WINDOW=8760 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
[06:13] <DASkreech> People are always running scripts to get into machines
[06:13] <Guest5711> is this like bot net or something?
[06:13] <DASkreech> Yeah
[06:14] <DASkreech> once you don't have stupid passwords you should be ok
[06:14] <Guest5711> how come they dont throw the book at them?
[06:14] <Guest5711> my logs are getting filled
[06:14] <DASkreech> they never stay up long enough for it
[06:14] <DASkreech> By the time you can hunt them down they have vanished and moved on
[06:14] <Guest5711> lol
[06:15] <Guest5711> that is funneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[06:15] <DASkreech> The ones that stay there forever are the ones that make no sense to chase cause they don't even know they are doing it
[06:15] <DASkreech> anyway going to reboot
[06:15] <usamahashimi> Can you help me about that; http://pastebin.com/m5d5d1ab6
[06:16] <Guest5711> why  you are going to reboot:?
[06:19] <UnknownIdiot> how do i add/fix my side scroll wheel on my touchpad in linux (worked perfect in windows.....)
[06:21] <rob> Hello everybody
[06:22] <rob> I'm running kubuntu 8.04.1 my /tmp file is full is there anyway to clean or empty the folder or make it bigger?
[06:27] <usamahashimi> rob: sudo rm -rvf /tmp/*
[06:31] <rob> cool thanks it worked
[06:31] <rob> i apppreciate the help
[06:33] <rob> im trying to rum a vm and its till saying the /tmp folder is full...actually i think it means it too small...is there anyway to make it bigger? all the junk has been cleaned out of it.
[06:37] <rob> properties on /tmp folder 996.0 KB out of 1.0 MB (3% used)
[06:40] <usamahashimi> rob: can you do me a favour?
[06:42] <rob> sure, what do you need?
[06:44] <usamahashimi> rob: fist of all lemme tell you the background, actually currently i am on windows so i am asking for help, and I assure you that there is no danger in it,
[06:44] <usamahashimi> Can you issue some command for me and tel me the result?
[06:45] <rob> yes
[06:46] <usamahashimi> rob: are you in kubuntu or in ubuntu?
[06:46] <rob> kubuntu
[06:46] <usamahashimi> rob: and are you in dialup or dsl/boradband?
[06:46] <rob> broadband satellite
[06:47] <usamahashimi> rob: ok, first of all in konsole issue the comand: sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources
[06:47] <usamahashimi> sorry
[06:48] <DaSkreecH> sources.lst
[06:48] <usamahashimi> rob: ok, first of all in konsole issue the comand: sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:48] <DaSkreecH> list
[06:48] <rob> done
[06:49] <usamahashimi> rob: now find the line: deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy main restricted universe multiverse
[06:50] <usamahashimi> rob: you may copy paste this line in find!
[06:50] <rob> not found
[06:51] <usamahashimi> rob: ok, add the following line at the end of this file;
[06:51] <usamahashimi> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy main restricted universe multiverse
[06:51] <rob> done
[06:52] <usamahashimi> rob: now save and close the file
[06:52] <rob> done
[06:52] <usamahashimi> rob:now, issue the command: sudo apt-get update
[06:56] <rob> still working 99% [waiting for headers]
[06:57] <usamahashimi> rob: Hmm, I think it will take few more seconds
[06:57] <rob> ok finshed
[06:57] <usamahashimi> rob: now open the website: http://pastebin.com/
[06:58] <rob> done
[06:58] <usamahashimi> rob: now return back to konsole and issue commnd: sudo apt-get build-dep wine
[06:58] <usamahashimi> rob: and when it asks for pressing Y or N, Do not press any button
[06:59] <usamahashimi> rob: can you see a long list of packages?
[06:59] <rob> yes
[06:59] <igor__> Are you installing wine?
[07:00] <usamahashimi> rob: copy all the list of packages i.e from the line you issued the command "sudo apt-get update" to the end of the list and paste in the webiste which I told you
[07:01] <usamahashimi> igor__: its a long story, rob is helping me to get the list of dependencies of wine :)
[07:01] <igor__> ooh.. okey..
[07:02] <rob> ok pasted in....now what?
[07:03] <usamahashimi> rob: in the website, below the paste area you can see the the "you name" option
[07:03] <usamahashimi> rob: give any name there and click "Send"
[07:04] <rob> done
[07:04] <usamahashimi> rob: now tell me the address of that website (you can now see that the address has changed)
[07:04] <rob> http://pastebin.com/mb45f2db
[07:05] <usamahashimi> rob: will u give me 1 min to check?
[07:05] <rob> sure
[07:06] <usamahashimi> rob: thanks a lot buddy, you deserve a cup of tea/coffee from me :)
[07:06] <usamahashimi> rob: do you want me to tell you all the reverse process?
[07:06] <rob> cool glad i could help
[07:07] <usamahashimi> rob: if you like, I can tell you all the reverse process?
[07:07] <rob> sure
[07:08] <usamahashimi> rob: before that do you know what is "wine" which I was asking from you?
[07:09] <rob> yes...i know what wine is
[07:09] <usamahashimi> rob: ok lets reverse all the process, Go to Konsole and issuse command: sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:11] <rob> done
[07:11] <rob> also removed entry and saved
[07:12] <usamahashimi> rob: Thats good, you are going ahead :), now issue the command: sudo apt-get update
[07:12] <rob> are you trying to install wine?
[07:12] <rob> done
[07:13] <usamahashimi> rob: yes, my windows PC in office as DSL so i will download packages from here and install in my home PC which is dialup
[07:13] <rob> been there done that
[07:14] <usamahashimi> rob: yes everything is back now, thanks a lot again
[07:14] <rob> you are very welcome
[07:15] <usamahashimi> rob: if you aren't in a hurry, we can talk some more!
[07:15] <rob> sure
[07:16] <usamahashimi> since how much time you are using linux?
[07:16] <rob> been a linux user since ubuntu dapper 6.06
[07:16] <rob> i use linux all the time
[07:17] <rob> got sick of malware and viruses in windows
[07:17] <usamahashimi> rob: so you are an old user, I am using since year 2000 :)
[07:18] <rob> right now this is a dual boot dell dimension 3000 2.26 GHZ windows xp with kubuntu 8.04.1 installed by wubi
[07:19] <usamahashimi> rob: do you create a separate partition for your home directory?
[07:19] <rob> i cant wait till end of month when kubuntu 8.10 gets released
[07:20] <mythsmith> hi! does anyone know of a channel devoted to developing with Qt4?
[07:20] <rob> yes its a virtual install installed into a folder on the windows drive
[07:20] <usamahashimi> rob: so you dont use to allocate a separate partition for your linux!
[07:21] <rob> no...that is correct
[07:21] <rob> it a 15 GB allocation
[07:22] <usamahashimi> i heard that the insallation through wubi is not fully configured and not fully fast as original!
[07:23] <rob> it is slightly slower but it not noticeable
[07:24] <rob> main problem i have is not being able to update menus for installed packages
[07:24] <usamahashimi> do you use res triced codecs?
[07:24] <asm_> hi to all
[07:24] <rob> sudo apdate-menus does not work
[07:24] <rob> yes
[07:25] <asm_> i am using first time kubuntu  plzz help me
[07:26] <usamahashimi> rob: yes, that also does not work in full insallation
[07:26] <rob> asm_ what kinda problem you having?
[07:26] <rob> i read it was a bug in lauchpad
[07:27] <usamahashimi> rob: why dont you use wine, dont you like it? or some other reason?
[07:27] <rob> wine is ok but still buggy......it still needs to be further developed
[07:28] <rob> wine is installed on this system but only works with small programs
[07:29] <rob> wont run my mircosoft 2004 flight sim
[07:29] <usamahashimi> rob: I agree, but still I experiment more and more programs ith wine :)
[07:31] <rob> in my opinion ubuntu I.E. and other linux variants need to be more unified
[07:31] <rob> but they are headed in the right direction
[07:32] <usamahashimi> rob: whether it is micorosot, canonical, redhat or some other, all are doing the same thing and copying each other
[07:32] <rob> ubuntu is not the only linux distro I use...I have many different versions and flavors
[07:33] <rob> but ubuntu is the most user friendly version i have ever found
[07:34] <usamahashimi> rob: i also used many flavour and I found this distro the most complete in every manner, like you I am also a kubuntu fan
[07:36] <rob> 1# ubuntu (any) 2# knoppix 3# Slax 4#DSL      is probably how I would rank them.
[07:37] <usamahashimi> I never use Knoppix and slax, whats are their speciality?
[07:37] <igor__> if I remember Knoppix is a LiveCD distro?
[07:37] <rob> Slax would only be number 3 because it is modular.....if not for that it would be lower
[07:38] <rob> yes knoppis is live
[07:38] <rob> slax is based off of slackware
[07:39] <usamahashimi> rob: does slax has any package manager?
[07:40] <rob> if i remember it doesnt
[07:41] <igor__> so how it is possible to install software to slax?
[07:41] <usamahashimi> rob: what I know you have to compile the packages in slx!
[07:42] <rob> you download the pacakges from the website and then just add then to the iso of the slax image and burn it. then when it boots up it adds the packages and boots up
[07:43] <rob> checkout http://slax.org
[07:43] <igor__> okey..
[07:43] <rob> actually very easy to modify
[07:44] <rob> but i wouldnt recommend it for a everyday distro
[07:44] <usamahashimi> And I heard that its also very fast distro?
[07:44] <rob> it is
[07:44] <igor__> hmm.. I`m using right now Kubuntu
[07:44] <igor__> and I like it))
[07:44] <igor__> really friendly for people.)
[07:45] <rob> give me a sec to look up something
[07:46] <usamahashimi> rob: on np
[07:46] <usamahashimi> rob: OK NP
[07:47] <rob> this is the whole reason i use linux (ubuntu) http://geocities.com/rob_e_press/     <<<<my site
[07:47] <rob> check it out
[07:49] <usamahashimi> rob: ok, lemme check
[07:51] <usamahashimi> rob: Is that you on the front page?
[07:53] <rob> yes
[07:54] <usamahashimi> rob: So you are a handsome guy (like me) :)
[07:55] <rob> lol
[07:55] <Spragie> is the 8.10 beta worth downloading?
[07:56] <usamahashimi> rob: cool website, Bill Gates will mad if he sees that website :)
[07:57] <rob> trust me i havent lost any sleep over worrying about bill
[07:58] <jussi01> !ot
[07:58] <rob> i dont have alot of respect for him
[07:58] <Spragie> jussi01: is the new beta reasonably stable ?
[07:58] <usamahashimi> rob: He just a businessman which cares for his money
[07:59] <jussi01> Spragie: please ask in #ubuntu+1 ;)
[07:59] <Spragie> ;] ty sir
[07:59] <jussi01> rob: usamahashimi: please head over to #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. :)
[08:00] <rob> lets change to that channel
[08:00] <usamahashimi> jussi01: you can also join us :)
[08:00] <usamahashimi> rob: OK
[08:16] <jaakkome__> If I want to run a program - say - from 03:00 to 08:00 every day, how do I set it up with kcron?
[08:17] <jaakkome__> I know how to start a new task at a given time, but how do I end it?
[08:52] <Sa[i]nT> jaakkome__: End the process?
[08:52] <jaakkome__> yep, I just made a pkill command there
[08:53] <Sa[i]nT> Is noone in here helping?
[08:54] <Sa[i]nT> Unless you got a Kubuntu specific question I would ask in #ubuntu alot more active users.
[09:31] <Vietnamese> hi
[09:31] <Vietnamese> hi all
[09:36] <Marekt> Hi can you tell how to create vpn? i use linksys router, do i have to use client and sferver or client and router is enough?
[09:42] <nilwinton> I'm new to Konversation and wanted to know something. What do I fill in the service box to get autoidentified when I join? I tried identify but that doesn't work.
[09:43] <dsmith_> hello, is kubuntu 8.10 goint to be kde 4 only?
[09:52] <lumin-> dsmith_: i think yes
[09:52] <dsmith_> i found the ans. I think
[09:52] <dsmith_> thanks )
[09:52] <dsmith_> I can run both if I want
[09:52] <lumin-> on 8.10?
[09:53] <lumin-> i know kde3 is supported untill 2009
[09:53] <dsmith_> hmmmmm
[09:53] <dsmith_> I use compiz now as well
[09:54] <dsmith_> I think they should run both
[09:54] <dsmith_> kde 4 and kde3
[09:54] <dsmith_> kde4 to me is ugly
[09:54] <lumin-> well you always change the visualization ...
[09:54] <lumin-> like kde3 xD
[09:55] <lumin-> well you can....etc etc
[09:55] <dsmith_> yep, thx GOD for that
[09:57] <dsmith_> wowo
[09:57] <dsmith_> http://www.linux.com/feature/141769
[10:02] <MrKennie> heh, what's up with the latest kaffeine update? It crashes on startup now.
[10:06] <lumin-> MrKennie: really?
[10:06] <lumin-> omg i am gonna to try
[10:06] <MrKennie> lol
[10:06] <lumin-> no no crash
[10:06] <MrKennie> $ kaffeine
[10:06] <MrKennie> ERROR: Communication problem with kaffeine, it probably crashed.
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> MrKennie: dmesg | tail
[10:07] <MrKennie> ooh, a kernel crash!
[10:07] <lumin-> MrKennie: on my computer it was not crashed
[10:08] <MrKennie> no, I know why
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> MrKennie: try renaming the .kaffeine folder in your home dir
[10:08] <MrKennie> I forgot that my laptop resumed when switching it on this morning, battery went flat last night. This causes problems with sunrpc in the kernel
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> ibernate causes more woes than its worth
[10:09] <MrKennie> yea, I just forgot about the issues I have.
[10:10] <MrKennie> resume is slower than a normal boot anyway.
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> hahah classic
[10:10] <lumin-> have u some problem with battery , i dunno but since 2 weeks i get some problem battery suddenly was charged and then it works for 2 minutes... now i have unplugged battery but my laptop says my batterys is still in
[10:10] <lumin-> and it's full charged
[10:11] <MrKennie> no
[10:11] <lumin-> it seems computer doesn't change my battery
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> lumin-: are you disabling acpi on boot?
[10:11] <MrKennie> for the most part, this laptop works very well out of the box. Only thing I do is roll my own kernel from git to speed up booting.
[10:11] <lumin-> ActionParsnip: i think no i have not changed that stuff
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> lumin-: is the battery seated properly
[10:12] <lumin-> yes
[10:12] <lumin-> but now ActionParsnip i have not plugged and it still says i have the battery plugged
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> MrKennie: boot times are quite blase to me. i can wait an extra few seconds to boot
[10:13] <lumin-> that is strange
[10:13] <MrKennie> I got a 5 second improvement on mine. It's still think it's fast anyway but I like tweaking things
[10:14] <lumin-> MrKennie: mm i like stable things :D
[10:14] <MrKennie> anyway, better reboot to get rpc back
[10:14] <MrKennie> lumin-: I use the ubuntu-hardy git tree, I jsut remove all the stuff I don't need.
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> 5 seconds, id hardly rate it as worth it but playing is fun
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> MrKennie: you can disable unnecessary ttys if you want a slightly faster boot
[10:16] <MrKennie> I like those
[10:16] <lumin-> ok i will reboot
[10:16] <MrKennie> ActionParsnip: yup, playing is fun :)
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> i work on pcs all day so I want the easy road to relax, otherwise i'll feel like im at work
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> which sucks
[10:20] <MrKennie> that's better. kaffeine working again. Although crashing is not good, it's jsut because my nfs mounts were not available because of the kernel oops.
[10:21] <MrKennie> ActionParsnip: yea, I understand.
[10:23] <MrKennie> ActionParsnip: I use to do the same a few years ago and I either played WoW in the evening or not use my computer at all
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> i rarely us mine except some chatting and bowsing
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> i cant sit on my computer all day like most "enthusiasts" do
[10:38] <ulises_> holas
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> howdy
[10:39] <ulises_> alguien me puede decir como se instalan los programas en kubuntu esk no tengo idea de linux
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> !es | ulises_
[10:40] <ulises_> gracias como entro¿ esque tampoco se usar el konversation
[10:44] <arctodus> hey guys, I just switched from ubuntu 8.04 to kubuntu 8.04 remix kde4, i can't seem to change the icons, though they are installed via system settings
[10:45] <Guest75183> fuck all
[10:45] <Guest75183> pussy
[10:46] <arctodus> ?
[10:46] <MrKennie> heh
[10:46] <Hondo_Kitsune> Some idiot on a live CD
[10:46] <Hondo_Kitsune> n=root@117.1.233.137 (root)
[10:47] <arctodus> Can someone help with an icon issue?
[10:47] <Hondo_Kitsune> arctodus: where are your icons missing from?
[10:48] <arctodus> Hondo_Kitsune: ty for helping, they are not missing, but after installing new ones, they do not update
[10:48] <arctodus> they remain as the default icons
[10:48] <Hondo_Kitsune> Hmm, I don't know much about KDE4 unfortunately, i am sticking with KDE3.x until it is no longer shipped.
[10:48] <Hondo_Kitsune> there is a #kde on this network, they might know more
[10:49] <arctodus> okay, I will give them a try, ty vm Hondo_Kitsune
[10:49] <Hondo_Kitsune> arctodus: np
[10:52] <Guest75183> hi all
[10:58] <rsingh> hie
[11:19] <LegoalsFaol> howto uninstall a widget from my kubuntu desktop?
[11:22] <slhk> LegoalsFaol: right click on it and choose "remove this widget"
[11:22] <slhk> LegoalsFaol: you may have to do "unlock widgets" before
[11:24] <LegoalsFaol> but this doesn't unistall it from the avaible widgets
[11:37] <Saka_> hi   all
[11:43] <vilhelm> hi Saka
[11:47] <Saka_> i'm having issues to step 7 with the upgrade's tutorial on this page -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades/Kubuntu . the progress bar for "preparing the upgrade" comes to 100% then nothing happened. just returned to desktop.
[11:51] <Saka_> anyone ready to help me ?
[11:51] <Saka_> i read the docs ... but no answer to my problem
[11:52] <cactusy1> will kubuntu work on my hardware?
[11:53] <ghostcube> Saka_: hmm no idea what could cause this
[11:53] <Saka_> sources ?
[11:53] <ghostcube> cactusy1: ??? a bit more info maybe
[11:54] <ghostcube> Saka_: normally the updater changes the sources by itself and disables 3rd party ones
[11:54] <Saka_> is there a special repository for dist upgrade devel ?
[11:54] <Saka_> k
[11:54] <ghostcube> Saka_: any updates u need to do before the upgade ?
[11:55] <Saka_> i checked and done them. it was kaffeine
[11:55] <ghostcube> maybe ask in #ubuntu+1
[11:55] <ghostcube> if anyone knew anything about
[11:55] <ghostcube> i havent done the upgrade till now
[11:56] <slhk> Saka_: instead of launching the upgrade with Alt+F2 try to execute it in a terminal, you may get more informations about what is happening
[11:56] <ghostcube> yeah this would help too :|
[11:56] <ghostcube> whx is the alt + f2 thing mentioned :|
[11:58] <tekgeeklt> why not do a full wipe and a fresh install?  also 8.10 is in alpha stage still has bugs I would not use it yet anyway unless you want to test it out and if so just play with a live cd to check it out
[12:00] <Saka_> ok. i'll see
[12:01] <Saka_> for nfo : i just have a computer at work to test these distrib so, fresh install or upgrade is the same for me.
[12:02] <Saka_> i preferred to run the upgrade instead of re-installing the distrib.
[12:02] <ghostcube> Saka_: maybe an bug in update system
[12:02] <ghostcube> wait a bit
[12:02] <Saka_> oki
[12:03] <tekgeeklt> well since its not even in a full release you cant trust the OS completely
[12:11] <zez_zez> hello, I have a problem with mouse wheel
[12:11] <zez_zez> I had upgraded to intrepid from hardy
[12:12] <zez_zez> when I use my user the mouse whell scroll left/right
[12:13] <zez_zez> with a new user (empty home) everythingh work
[12:13] <zez_zez> any suggestion?
[12:16] <bluelight> which linux burning software have a port for windows?
[12:17] <jussi01> hrm, none that I know of.
[12:24] <ghostcube> hmm in kde windows there isnt any burning software too
[12:25] <Saka_> ^ k3b
[12:34] <mofux> hi
[12:35] <mofux> i installed kubuntu (hardy) via wubi, dual booting with vista, it ran just fine for few months now, but now when starting up i only get a "BusyBox" shell
[12:36] <mofux> does anyone has a clue?
[12:36] <dr_willis> I dont use wubi. but it sounds as if the initrd may be messed up, or a kernel update got messed up. Try booting some of the older kernels perhaps.
[12:37] <mofux> i think maybe the path/hdd to the initrd is just messed up or something
[12:38] <dr_willis> possible.
[12:39] <mofux> dr_willis: do you know how i can check the path to the initrd it is trying to boot from?
[12:39] <dr_willis> I know nothing about wubi or how it boots.  , not sure what sort of configs it uses.
[12:39] <mofux> dr_willis, ok
[12:40] <mofux> is there a wubi channel by the way?
[12:40] <dr_willis> Not that i hae ever seen
[12:40] <dr_willis> !wubi
[12:42] <JuJuBee> What's the deal with FireFox 3 and the bookmarks toolbar going blank?
[12:50] <lokai> OK how do you get NickServ to send you a new password (or key) via email?
[12:51] <dr_willis>  - /msg nickserv help   -  im not sure how ya do it. :)
[12:51] <Pici> lokai: ask the staffers in #freenode
[12:51] <Pici> dr_willis: you can't it needs to be initiated by a freenode staff member.
[12:51] <Pici> ^insert a comma somewhere in there
[12:52] <dr_willis> Pici,  if you say so..
[12:52] <dr_willis> I always use 'password' for my password.. :)
[12:52] <lokai> thanks
[12:53] <mofux> it's working again, i'm in kubuntu now
[12:53] <mofux> i added "generic.all_generic_ide=1" to the boot options
[12:53] <mofux> in grub
[12:53] <mofux> dunno if that really did the trick or if it's just a random success, but it works for now
[13:02] <LORD_NABOCOP> una pregunta
[13:02] <Pici> !es | LORD_NABOCOP
[13:02] <LORD_NABOCOP> cuando intento abrir el adept intaler me dice k la base de datos esta siendo usada por otro proceso
[13:06] <JuJuBee> So I have an empty bookmarks toolbar and I purged firefox-3.0 but still when I run firefox, I get v.3?  How?
[13:09] <dr_willis> Purging a package.. will not remove the users setting files.
[13:10] <dr_willis> I got FF 3.0.3 here.. is there a newer?
[13:14] <JuJuBee> dr_willis : but if ff3 is not installed, how can it run?
[13:14] <dr_willis> never noticed. never worried about it.
[13:14] <JuJuBee> Any ideas on what is going on w/ empty bookmarks toolbar?  I can't even bookmark anything now.
[13:14] <dr_willis> cached in ram perhaps.
[13:14] <JuJuBee> Even after restart?
[13:15] <dr_willis> Ive not seen any empty bookmarks problems.. i do tend to  use delicious to keep my bookmarks
[13:15] <dr_willis> sounds to me like it dident uninstall then.
[13:16] <JuJuBee> I use foxmarks for bookmark sync
[13:16] <JuJuBee> adept doesn't show it as installed.
[13:16] <JuJuBee> only shows firefox-2 installed.
[13:19] <slhk_> it may still be running even if you closed the window, so it is faster when you open a new one; don't know exactly how it works
[14:14] <BluesKaj> tried installing kubuntu hardy with wubi on wifes pc, but the repos won't connect ..connect error
[14:22]  * genii hands out coffees
[14:38] <genii> Pretty darn quiet in here
[14:40] <MrKennie> ya
[14:42] <JuJuBee> Can anybody reccomend a USB wireless adapter for Kubuntu (Linksys ?)
[14:42] <MrKennie> not so much the make but the chip it uses
[14:43] <JuJuBee> What chip should I be looking for?
[14:44] <genii> Atheros usually
[14:44] <genii> The ADM8211 chipset is also not horrible
[14:44] <MrKennie> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Devices/USB
[14:50] <pim> hello
[14:50] <pim> My KDE windows have lost the bars at the top
[14:50] <pim> how can I fix it?
[14:52] <genii> pim: Compiz?
[14:52] <pim> no, standard KDE 3.5.10
[14:52] <pim> no beryl or compiz
[14:53] <genii> pim: alt-f2      kwin --replace
[14:53] <genii> Usually it's the window manager or the decorator causing it
[14:54] <pim> I can't execute a command from the alt+f2
[14:54] <pim> I can't acces any program really
[14:55] <genii> pim: Maybe you have some other issue then
[14:55] <pim> will it also work from the command line?
[14:55] <genii> pim: Will work from Konsole but not from separate console of ctrl-alt-(f1-f6) since needs to be in current one
[14:56] <pim> ah well I'm in a different one now, using irssi
[14:56] <pim> I could try another reboot
[14:56] <DarwinLinux7> Anyone use KDE 4.1??
[14:57] <pim> I think I'll go for another reboot, and then try again
[14:57] <genii> DarwinLinux7: Probably most of the people in #kubuntu=kde4 do :)
[14:57] <genii> = -> -
[14:57] <DarwinLinux7> thx
[14:58] <DarwinLinux7> My KDE 4.1 is running bleeding slow
[15:01] <pim> well kwin --replace worked, but I don't see why rebooting didn't
[15:01] <pim> thanks :-)
[15:03] <JuJuBee> genii : any "N" adapters you know work under linux?
[15:04] <genii> pim: np
[15:05] <genii> JuJuBee: Not offhand
[15:05] <JuJuBee> K thanks
[15:05] <JuJuBee> I will keep looking.
[15:05] <genii> JuJuBee: I'm currently still using a G pcmcia adapter
[15:06] <petyko> hy all
[15:07] <JuJuBee> This is driving me crazy.  My bookmarks toolbar is empty.  I use kubuntu and ff3.  I can't even re-sync (foxmarks) to get them back.  What should I do?
[15:15] <JuJuBee> !java
[15:16] <genii> JuJuBee: sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-plugin      are the two you need for that
[15:17] <JuJuBee> Hmmm, says they are already installed, but a website tells me they are not. (SUN.com)
[15:17] <genii> The -plugin one is for the browser
[15:18] <KR-data> what is the best way to permanently add an extra ip to eth0?
[15:18] <JuJuBee> Also tried to load one of those "Live Chat" windows for assistance with ordering and it also said I need to install java It is enabled in ff.
[15:18] <JuJuBee> The plugin is installed also
[15:18] <genii> KR-data: Make an alias for it with another ip in the /etc/network/interfaces file.    man interfaces       has the manual page with some examples
[15:18] <stdin> JuJuBee: see if it's listed in "about:plugins"
[15:19] <KR-data> genii, ok, thanks
[15:19] <genii> KR-data: You're welcome
[15:20] <JuJuBee> application/x-java-applet;version=1.6 (along with other versions ... earlier)?
[15:21] <JuJuBee> gcjplugin.so ?
[15:21] <genii> KR-data: They are named like eth0:0 eth0:1    etc etc
[15:22] <KR-data> genii, I've seen them before, since I've used "ifconfig eth0 add ...."
[15:23] <genii> KR-data: Some info here http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/ubuntu-linux-creating-ethernet-alias-for-eth0-network-device.html
[15:25] <KR-data> genii, I'll read, learn and ask some more ^^
[15:25] <dfaure> how do I read the changelog for a kubuntu package I just installed?
[15:26] <amerigo> hello...
[15:27] <gvv> hi
[15:27] <amerigo> somebody can help me??
[15:27] <gvv> how are you?
[15:27] <amerigo> i'm fine
[15:27] <gvv> ok
[15:27] <amerigo> thank you
[15:27] <amerigo> so
[15:28] <gvv> you speak spanish??
[15:28] <amerigo> i'm running firefox but it say that I need gtk-2.10
[15:28] <amerigo> a pochito
[15:28] <gvv> oooo
[15:28] <amerigo> where i can get it
[15:28] <gvv> ok
[15:28] <amerigo> ????
[15:29] <gvv> because i am mexican
[15:29] <amerigo> good
[15:29] <gvv> where you from??
[15:29] <Pici> !es | gvv
[15:30] <amerigo> but i   like english
[15:30] <gvv> ok
[15:30] <amerigo> Pici: Have you an help??
[15:31] <Pici> amerigo: What are you trying to do?
[15:31] <amerigo> i'm trying to install gtk 2.10 or more
[15:32] <amerigo> i've already installed gimp...
[15:32] <Pici> amerigo: What is telling you that you need that? I'm confused as to what running firefox has to do with this.
[15:32] <amerigo> i've have installed firefox 3
[15:33] <amerigo> it say that i need to install gtk 2.10
[15:33] <amerigo> or better the latest version
[15:33] <Pici> How did you install FF3?
[15:33] <amerigo> i don't know what is...
[15:34] <Pici> Or how are you trying to install FireFox3?
[15:34] <amerigo> ah ok
[15:34] <amerigo> firefox 3
[15:34] <amerigo> yes
[15:34] <Pici> How?
[15:34] <amerigo> compiling
[15:34] <Pici> amerigo: What version of Kubuntu are you using?
[15:35] <amerigo> 2.6.15-52-386
[15:36] <amerigo> it say :
[15:36] <amerigo> We're sorry, this application requires a version of the GTK+ library that is not installed on your computer.
[15:36] <amerigo> You have GTK+ 2.8.
[15:36] <amerigo> This application requires GTK+ 2.10 or newer.
[15:36] <amerigo> Please upgrade your GTK+ library if you wish to use this application.
[15:36] <albuntu> !pastebin | amerigo
[15:36] <amerigo> ok
[15:36] <amerigo> again?
[15:37] <amerigo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/55014/
[15:40] <wizkoder> hy everybody
[15:40] <genii> !hi
[15:41] <wizkoder> We just installed kubuntu on 2 more machines at work .-)
[15:41] <wizkoder> slowly but surely we are taking over :-)
[15:41] <genii> Nice
[15:42] <Noia|AFK> Hello
[15:42] <kyraneth> hi
[15:42] <amerigo> Pici: still alive?
[15:45] <wizkoder> any coders here? I have a problem with subversion. When I say "svn import mWeb file://srv/www/mWeb4" I get "Local URL 'file://srv/www/mWeb4' contains unsupported hostname"
[15:51] <ocs> (kubuntu 8.04 with kde 4) hi, how can i a) change the number of desktops and b) associate to each one a specific wallpaper ?
[15:53] <ghostcube> ocs in systemsettings for a)   this only possible afaik withj compiz and disabled desktop drawing
[15:53] <ghostcube> for b
[15:54] <ghostcube> but i dont know this for kde4
[15:54] <ocs> ghostcube: the questions are both for kde4... i don't find a) in system settings
[15:54] <ghostcube> tight click on desktop doesnt help either ?
[15:54] <ghostcube> rifht
[15:54] <ghostcube> :|
[15:54] <ghostcube> damn fingers
[15:55] <ocs> nothing
[15:55] <ghostcube> #kubuntu-kde4
[15:55] <ocs> good idea, thnks
[15:56] <webas> why i can freely surf the root directory? :)
[16:00] <genii> wizkoder: try 3 slashes instead of two after file:
[16:02] <wizkoder> I tried all different possibilities. from 1 to 3 slashes. No futher clue
[16:03] <karja> hello
[16:04] <karja> is it any swedish here?
[16:07] <karja> hey
[16:08] <pim_> !se
[16:08] <karja> tack
[16:10] <bbeck> I have a question about dia, does anyone know if there is a channel for it?
[16:17] <christian_> hi
[16:28] <webas> i must change nvidia refresh rate each time i load kubuntu..any way to avoid this? :)
[16:29] <Thor> what is the best program for ripping cd's ?
[16:29] <pim_> Thor that depends on your preferences
[16:29] <ehsan> Hi all
[16:30] <pim_> if I were you I'd just have a look on the web to see what is available
[16:30] <orest> hi
[16:30] <ehsan> how can i install the envy on my kubuntu?
[16:30] <ehsan> how can i install the envy on my kubuntu?
[16:30] <Thor> pim_: u r right, but...never used ripping programs under linux
[16:31] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install envyng-qt ehsan
[16:31] <bazhang> !info envyng-qt
[16:31] <ehsan> bazhang: thanks
[16:31] <bazhang> np
[16:33] <ehsan> what have i to do now by this message? "E: Couldn't find package envyng-qt"
[16:33] <favro> !envy
[16:34] <favro> ehsan: you need the universe repository enabled
[16:34] <ehsan> can explain more?
[16:34] <favro> !repos
[16:35] <ehsan> favro: how can i do this?
[16:37] <favro> ehsan: are you using adept?
[16:37] <ehsan> i just tried by apt-get
[16:37] <ehsan> favro: i have it
[16:38] <favro> ehsan: well done :)
[16:39] <ehsan> favro: what is waiting for me in adept?!!
[16:39] <ehsan> favro: :D
[16:39] <amerigo> i have no gtk+ application how can i install it ????
[16:40] <favro> ehsan: I thought you would need to add the universe repository but you didn't
[16:40] <ehsan> favro: ok
[16:40] <amerigo> an idea, please...!!!
[16:41] <ehsan> favro: so how can i add ?
[16:41] <favro> ehsan: add what?
[16:42] <favro> amerigo: do you mean theme for gtk apps?
[16:42] <ehsan> favro: nothing!
[16:42] <favro> hehe
[16:44] <ehsan> favro: now i just want install envy favro! can you guide me?
[16:45] <favro> ehsan: I never need to use it - but sudo apt-get install envyng-qt should work
[16:46] <ehsan> favro: it doesn't work!
[16:47] <ehsan> favro: thank you favro
[16:47] <favro> ehsan: sorry  - one sec
[16:48] <ehsan> favro: your time is over!
[16:48] <ehsan> favro: :D
[16:48] <ghostcube> never use envy
[16:48] <ghostcube> :|
[16:49] <ehsan> ghostcube: why?
[16:49] <ghostcube> crap and not needed
[16:50] <favro> ghostcube: it's in the repos now
[16:50] <ghostcube> doesnt matter
[16:50] <ehsan> ghostcube: what is your offer?
[16:50] <favro> ehsan: in adept click in the top left   adept - select manage repositories - and select the universe repo
[16:51] <ghostcube> what grafic card is this ?
[16:51] <ehsan> ghostcube: nvidia
[16:51] <ghostcube> moment pls
[16:51] <amerigo> i'm tryiyng to install firefox 3
[16:51] <ehsan> favro: ok
[16:51] <ghostcube> ehsan: what card is this 8xxx or 9xxx
[16:51] <amerigo> when i play it say that I need gtk+ 2.10
[16:52] <ghostcube> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[16:52] <ghostcube> thi is the guide to follow and it works
[16:52] <ehsan> ghostcube: 5xxx
[16:52] <ghostcube> so whyx not using nvidia-glx-new ?
[16:52] <ghostcube> instead of envy crap ?
[16:53] <favro> amerigo: how did you install it?
[16:53] <amerigo> I've also downloaad gtk 2.14
[16:53] <favro> amerigo: I mean firefox...
[16:53] <amerigo> i've extract it in opt
[16:53] <ehsan> ghostcube: i could not install it
[16:53] <amerigo> a moment
[16:54] <amerigo> i don't remember exactly
[16:54] <ehsan> favro: i can't see "manage repositories
[16:54] <favro> amerigo: use the firefox in the repositories - if you install that all the stuff needed to run it will be installed
[16:54] <amerigo> ok
[16:54] <amerigo> i've exxtrated it in opt/
[16:55] <ghostcube> ehsan: open the restricted repositories and install nvidia-glx-new
[16:55] <favro> ehsan: and envyng-qt is in the universe repo so select that
[16:56] <amerigo> that my process
[16:56] <amerigo> sudo tar -jxvf  firefox-3.0.tar.bz2 -C /opt
[16:56] <ghostcube> favro: pls dont emntion env
[16:56] <ghostcube> so we have the stress in compiz later
[16:56] <amerigo> sudo tar -jxvf firefox-3.0.3.tar.bz2 -C /opt
[16:56] <favro> !envy
[16:56] <amerigo> sorry
[16:56] <ghostcube> doent matter
[16:56] <amerigo> rm firefox-3.0.3.tar.bz2
[16:57] <amerigo> then i've try to start with firefox
[16:57] <amerigo> but i've get this error
[16:58] <amerigo> ! paste bin
[16:58] <amerigo> ! paste-bin
[16:58] <favro> !paste
[16:59] <amerigo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/55041/
[16:59] <amerigo> and that is all
[16:59] <amerigo> then i've trry to install gtk+ 2.00
[17:00] <amerigo> but in apt get i got a Break in this installation
[17:01] <Pici> amerigo: What does lsb_release -rc  say?
[17:01] <Pici> And sorry I ran off before, a server broke.
[17:01] <amerigo> 6.06 Dapper
[17:03] <ghostcube> bbl
[17:03] <Pici> amerigo: I suggest that you upgrade to Hardy if you want this to work properly.  Otherwise this *might* work, but I give no promises: http://techieblurbs.blogspot.com/2008/09/how-to-run-firefox3-on-ubuntu-edgy.html
[17:04] <anarchy> does anyone have intel HDA sound working in the 8.10 beta?
[17:05] <Pici> anarchy: 8.10 support is in #ubuntu+1
[17:05] <ghostcube> favro: so even ubotu tells its pure crap
[17:06] <ghostcube> why do u mention it befoe checking the other methods in here ?
[17:06] <favro> ghostcube: scroll up fool
[17:06] <ghostcube> ok guys bbl :|
[17:06] <ghostcube> favro: envy is pure crap and not needed :| for nothing its not an magic cookie
[17:06] <ghostcube> but nm bbl
[17:06] <favro> ghostcube: scroll up fool
[17:07] <ghostcube> he asks for envy and u told hime how so why ?
[17:08] <ghostcube> and iam not a fool we will meet in compiz hoepfully some day :D
[17:08] <ghostcube> well see hoos the fool
[17:08] <ghostcube> whoos
[17:08] <ghostcube> rofl
[17:08] <ghostcube> ok so out now
[17:08] <favro> ghostcube: quote - <bazhang> sudo apt-get install envyng-qt ehsan
[17:08] <favro> he just needed a repo
[17:08] <ghostcube> he didnt need anvy :|
[17:08] <ghostcube> *e
[17:09] <favro> I didn't recommend it
[17:09] <ghostcube> i know but why do you dont say stop in here even if its mentioned guys its not an critic to youuuuuuuu its an critic to envy
[17:09] <ghostcube> maaaan
[17:09] <ghostcube> so
[17:09] <ghostcube> :|
[17:10] <favro> you were wrong I wasn't recommending it
[17:10] <Pici> Envyng is in the Ubuntu repositories because it fills a void where the most-recent proprietary drivers would not normally be included in the release.
[17:10] <ghostcube> you know when the guys used envy step in to compiz channel they tell us kubuntu guys told us to use it and we can only say ok youre system is crap now cause you used it
[17:10] <ghostcube> favro: ok then sorry
[17:10] <ghostcube> :D
[17:11] <ghostcube> Pici: thats not the point if u use an working and well informing howto u wont need envy
[17:11] <ghostcube> its not doing anything else than u would do
[17:12] <ghostcube> its just it does strange things no one can follow sometimes
[17:12] <ghostcube> :|
[17:12] <ghostcube> its just if its poossible to get the drivers manual without envy try it :|
[17:12] <Pici> ghostcube: File a bug in the envyng package then. /me shrugs
[17:13] <ghostcube> Pici: rofl
[17:13] <ghostcube> i dont want blame anyone in here cause its good we all help but i just think envy is the last method to be mentioned :|
[17:13] <ghostcube> and all in compiz-fusion do so
[17:14] <favro> !foss
[17:14] <ghostcube> i know that but favro would u yourself use envy if you know manual will work too just a question :)
[17:15] <favro> ghostcube: I never need to consider envyng
[17:15] <ghostcube> lol
[17:15] <favro> !lol
[17:15] <Whitor> <=- has had very bad experiences with envy...
[17:16] <Whitor> stay away from it, if you can
[17:16] <favro> afaik it comes with an uninstall script for a reason
[17:16] <Whitor> its a driver install cop-out if you ask me... a script that does its best... but isn't perfect
[17:16] <ghostcube> favro: thats not working yeah
[17:17] <favro> it's more to do with the binary drivers than anything else
[17:17] <Whitor> If you install something ... then uninstall it... (this might be a windows hangover but...) the system isn't in /exactly/ the same state that it was in before the original install ...
[17:18] <Whitor> imho
[17:18] <ghostcube> Whitor: yep exactly
[17:18] <ghostcube> but now i have to drive home :) cu later
[17:19] <Whitor> bye
[17:31] <LordCrc> hi
[17:34] <LordCrc> I'm trying to connect to my kubuntu laptop via vnc. Krfb doesn't work. I used x11vnc which works but is so slow it's almost useless. I've tried vnc4server, but then i just get a konsole window and nothing more, and I can't seem to figure out how to get a regular desktop (with "taskbar" and all that) started with it. Any tips? What's the "best" solution?
[17:36] <favro> LordCrc: in the users home dir on the kubuntu laptop is a .vnc folder - in there is the xstartup file
[17:37] <LordCrc> right
[17:37] <LordCrc> not sure what to put there tho :)
[17:38] <favro> can you paste it?
[17:38] <favro> !paste
[17:38] <LordCrc> ah hmm 2 sec :)
[17:40] <LordCrc> ah hmmm display is all scrambled now, yay
[17:42] <LordCrc> 2 sec just gotta reboot the thing
[17:42] <favro> you can comment (#) the line opening xterm
[17:42] <favro> hehe
[17:43] <LordCrc> it didnt like hibernate :/
[17:46] <LordCrc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/55054/
[17:46] <LordCrc> there we go
[17:46] <favro> k
[17:47] <LordCrc> so comment out the x-terminal thingy?
[17:48] <favro> comment lines 5 + 6 and then add startkde
[17:48] <LordCrc> ah
[17:48] <LordCrc> startkde :D
[17:48] <LordCrc> aaaight lemme try
[17:48] <favro> luck
[17:51] <LordCrc> aaaight nice
[17:51] <LordCrc> works fine :)
[17:51] <favro> :)
[17:52] <LordCrc> hmm so how would i make i start vncserver each time i start the lappy?
[17:52] <favro> I do that from my .bash_profile
[17:54] <LordCrc> hmm when i log out, the display is somehow scrambled (seems like the display mode is wrong somehow, i see like 2-3 copies of the screen, offset along the horizontal)
[17:55] <favro> are you logging out through vnc?
[17:55] <LordCrc> no this was on the laptop itself
[17:55] <LordCrc> happened before too
[17:55] <LordCrc> so not vnc related
[17:55] <favro> k
[17:57] <LordCrc> ill try disabling the ati driver
[17:58] <jonah> hey guys i just updated to beta with adept and on reboot when i try login it worn't work and gives the error "Not starting K display manager (kdm-kde4); it is not the default display manager."  how can i fix this so i can log in? please help
[17:58] <favro> it prob needs vga=775 or similar set in menu.lst
[17:58] <favro> LordCrc: ^
[17:58] <LordCrc> ah
[17:59] <favro> LordCrc: some lappy's do
[18:00] <LordCrc> but it's the kde login screen that gets scrambled?
[18:01] <favro> that screen uses the same graphics as the boot afaik
[18:01] <favro> !usplash
[18:02] <favro> it uses only 16 colours
[18:04] <LordCrc> ah
[18:08] <LordCrc> weird cause initially the login screen is fine and uses the proper resolution (1280x800 if i remember correctly)
[18:13] <CppIsWeird> can you edit the sudoers file without using vim?
[18:13] <genii> CppIsWeird: Yes any editor. However visudo has error checking to make sure syntax is good
[18:14] <Pici> CppIsWeird: set $VISUAL or $EDITOR to your editor of choice then invoke visudo.
[18:15] <CppIsWeird> genii, where is the file located?
[18:15] <genii> CppIsWeird: in /etc
[18:16] <CppIsWeird> Pici, how does one set these variables?
[18:17] <Pici> CppIsWeird: Preferably in your ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile
[18:17] <CppIsWeird> okie dokie
[18:17] <Pici> CppIsWeird: Or on the fly: VISUAL=nano sudo visudo
[18:17] <CppIsWeird> thanks for the help.
[18:43]  * genii hands out more coffees
[18:46] <microchipv420> hello everyone, I am new to kubuntu, I just switched over from ubuntu, I am using 8.04 remix kde4, here is my question: everytime I set up my desktop and widgets the way I want them, it reverts back to default after I log off
[18:46] <microchipv420> can someone help with that?
[18:46] <Pici> microchipv420: #kubuntu-kde4 may be able to.
[18:46] <microchipv420> kewl
[18:46] <microchipv420> ty Pici
[18:46] <Pici> yw
[18:56]  * genii hands Pici a large coffee
[19:00] <w8tah> hi folks - new kubuntu computer here - works great execpt that mpg and avi movies play nasty -- looks like they are in about 16 colors and generally look awful
[19:00] <w8tah> ive got the win32codecs what else do i need?
[19:06] <||arifaX> how do I set the rights for my cdrom to use k3b without root privileges. could not found a wizard for that but thougt there was one in earlier versions
[19:09] <mathijs> Hi all, was amarok-kde4 removed from intrepid today?
[19:10] <Pici> mathijs: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid/8.10 support/discussion.
[19:10] <mathijs> ok
[19:11] <Arne> hi
[19:13] <Arne> hope you can help me: I am trying to install kubuntu on an external hard disk. So after the partition I have to select where to put the boot loader. How can I get to know what I need to insert instead of [hda0] fpr my external hd?
[19:17] <paolo_> plz help me.. :) I can't access to dvd rom. The hardware is ok (tried with windows and it works)
[19:45] <webas> hi i need help to restore grub at least.. i failed installing windows also :( bad day i guess
[19:47] <jussi01> !grub | webas
[19:48] <webas> i get an error while searching boot/grub/stage1 ..
[19:55] <webas> if i use command like df /boot/ or df / i always see that filesystem is - instead of /dev/sda3 or smth
[19:57] <Nowak89> hmm
[19:59] <favro> try df -h /
[20:00] <Predator106> I hope this is a good channel to put this in, but is there a great KDE replacement for gedit. I really liked gedit, but I don't like gnome now that I'm in KDE
[20:00] <Predator106> I've heard great things about Kate, but I'm really unimpressed... is there a better (by opinion) one?
[20:00] <webas> try to use kate as less as possible :P
[20:01] <webas> can you help me with grub? predator?
[20:01] <Predator106> what problems are you having?
[20:02] <emilsedgh> penguiniator: whats wrong with kate?
[20:02] <emilsedgh> ah
[20:02] <emilsedgh> sorry penguiniator, Predator106 ^^
[20:02] <Predator106> lol...
[20:02] <webas> im having many problems..cant even install windows..so i want to fix grub.. in grub then i write find boot/grub/stage1 i get - error15 file not found
[20:03] <emilsedgh> Predator106: kwrite looks more like gedit though.
[20:03] <Predator106> @emilsedgh well I don't know, maybe I don't like kate because it's not gedit, lol. I really liked how in gedit i set it to a black background and the C++ highlighting was awesome looking for quick source viewing
[20:03] <joseph_> hello, anyone can point me to a 'how-to' on using windows account defined in windows server from kubuntu
[20:03] <emilsedgh> Predator106: you can change highlighting colors in kate
[20:05] <penguiniator> Hmm... my remark about Kate was a couple of days ago, I think... had something to do with a problem I was having with control characters in files I edit in Kate. I think it was not really Kate. It comes from emails I get from someone I work for. He sends web content to me from his Mac. I read it in Kmail. And edit it in Kate. His editor puts control characters in what should be plain text files.
[20:09] <Predator106> emilsedgh: I'm not ignoring you, heh, just started reading it now
[20:09] <emilsedgh> heh :P
[20:09] <Predator106> and as for 'boot/grub/stage1' you forgot the slash in front
[20:09] <Predator106> not sure if you didn't type that in irc
[20:09] <Predator106> or if that's exactly what you did in the terminal
 that was directed to you emilsedgh, btw
[20:13] <emilsedgh> Predator106: sorry, i dont get it, i didnt ask anything Predator106...
[20:13] <Predator106> oh crap, wrong guy...
[20:13] <Predator106> meant webas
[20:13] <emilsedgh> Predator106: hehe :P
[20:13] <Predator106> heh, you probably thought I was crazy
[20:13] <emilsedgh> Predator106: its my turn to 'lol'
[20:18] <no1uknow> I have some how hosed up knetworkmanager and can not get it to see any wireless devices now... is there a way to reset it?
[20:27] <Predator106> no1uknow: You could try just deleting the settings or reinstalling that package
[20:27] <Predator106> I'm not sure where the settings would be, probably under your /home/ or something
[20:28] <no1uknow> I'll give it a shot
[20:28] <genii> ~/.kde/share/config/knetworkmanagerrc
[20:28] <Predator106> ah, there we are
[20:28] <no1uknow> I think I mess up the /etc/network/interface I'm a newbie to this
[20:29] <genii> no1uknow: If you make entries to that file network manager thinks the device is manually configured already and basically ignores it
[20:29] <no1uknow> ah so comment out the interface file?
[20:29] <no1uknow> all lines
[20:30] <no1uknow> okay I'm in good shape on the knetworkmanagerrc
[20:31] <Predator106> good
[20:33] <genii> no1uknow: The /etc/network/interfaces      should have only 2 lines in it:   auto lo          and: iface lo inet loopback           then network manager can be used for eth0 wlan0  or so on
[20:37] <no1uknow> genii: okay those lines are correct then thanks
[20:37] <no1uknow> hmm
[20:49] <came0> #computers
[20:52] <came0> Hey guys I need help extracting information from a text file.   I have a ~1000 line text file, each line containing the following:   'company1..company2..1.1.08' (no quotes and company names and dates vary)  I need to parse this and output a file with only the "company2" on each line.  Any ideas how to do this?  Python has been sugessted but I am not familiar with the language.  Any easier ways?
[20:53] <came0> Excel can do it with some VB, but I dont have any windows machines here.
[20:56] <Predator106> can openoffice do it?
[20:56] <freaky[t]> is it safe to upgrade from dapper to hardy?
[20:56] <freaky[t]> by changing the entries in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[20:56] <came0> Predator106:  not that I can see
[20:56] <Predator106> @came0 ok, not sure then, aside from using bash commands
[20:57] <Predator106> @freaky Is dapper just prior to hardy?
[20:57] <Predator106> can't remember absolutely
[20:58] <Tm_T> Dapper Edgy Feisty Gutsy Hardy
[20:58] <compilerwriter> What on earth is going on now that Kontact is telling me it can't connect to host localhost?
[21:00] <Predator106> in which case, no, I would not do that big of an upgrade
[21:00] <Predator106> the command I believe is sudo apt-get upgrade-dist
[21:00] <Predator106> but the general rule of thumb is, after a clean install, only upgrade to 1 release after yours
[21:00] <Predator106> after that it will probably get pretty bad
[21:00] <Predator106> so I do not really recommend it
[21:01] <genii> freaky[t]: You can upgrade from LTS to LTS with update-manager-core
[21:04] <freaky[t]> genii: ?? how? just install it?
[21:05] <dr_willis> !info update-manager-core
[21:05] <dr_willis> its proberly installed by default. :)
[21:05] <freaky[t]> yea but that friend of me doesnt know where it is and i dont know either;P
[21:06] <freaky[t]> can't i just change the entries in /etc/apt/sources.list do a apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get upgrade ?
[21:06] <dr_willis> just run the command from a terminal...
[21:06] <dr_willis> that command i think does that.
[21:06] <freaky[t]> update-manager-core ?
[21:06] <freaky[t]> oO
[21:06] <Predator106> would you even have to change the sources file?
[21:06] <Predator106> (not sure)
[21:07] <freaky[t]> yes
[21:07] <freaky[t]> of course
[21:07] <Predator106> yeah, it made sense, but I just never heard of anyone doing that portion of it
[21:07] <dr_willis> used to be you had to.
[21:08] <dr_willis> depends on how you upgrade
[21:08] <Predator106> so what if you did do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade or whatever
[21:08] <Predator106> not sure if its upgrade-dist or dist-upgrade
[21:08] <freaky[t]> dist-upgrade
[21:10] <dr_willis> thats the old way i thinlk to upgrade.. I was thinking   update-manager-core was the newer way
[21:10] <dr_willis> but i rarely upgrade releases.
[21:17] <comicinker> can I send a command to Amarok to start playing music (via ssh)?
[21:18] <trappist> comicinker: you'd probably use dcop for it
[21:18] <no1uknow> thanks for the help earlier... knetworkmanager can now see the wireless networks, but its holding at 28% when trying to connect...
[21:19] <trappist> no1uknow: anything interesting in dmesg
[21:19] <trappist> ?
[21:19] <comicinker> !dcop
[21:19] <no1uknow> trappist: lookin
[21:21] <genii> no1uknow: You have wpasupplicant package installed?
[21:21] <no1uknow> genii: checking
[21:21] <comicinker> trappist: using dcop, would it result to an on line terminal command? or script?
[21:22] <no1uknow> genii: affirmative
[21:25] <trappist> comicinker: could go either way.  you could do it with a one-liner, or you could write a script with fancy features, and like build an ssh interface to amarok
[21:27] <comicinker> docs?
[21:29] <trappist> comicinker: there are probably some.  I would run kdcop to check out amarok's dcop interface, and use google to see what kind of syntax to use.  I do this like 2-3 times a year, so I have to google it every time.
[21:31] <genii> no1uknow: No immediate ideas on it. Although this also sometimes happens with my machine too, I usually end up rebooting it and it works past 28% again. Restarting the network etc doesn't clear it up for some reason
[21:37] <no1uknow> genii: thanks, rebooting is how I got the wireless networks to display... kewl I keep playing from here
[21:39] <ale_> someone with experience in hardy live usb?
[21:40] <ale_> following instructions at pendrive.com, the result is a system with kdeglodals and other files with mod 000
[21:43] <lexo> Hi all
[21:43] <ScorpKing> hiya lexo
[21:44] <lexo> how are you?
[21:44] <ScorpKing> lexo: not bad. anything you need help with?
[21:45] <lexo> nothing
[21:45] <ScorpKing> !ot
[21:45] <ScorpKing> :)
[21:45] <lexo> :D
[21:45] <lexo> where do you come from?
[21:54] <venik> Does anyone know how to record with Audacity?  It used to work, but no longer...
[21:55] <ScorpKing> venik: it happens to me too. no idea how to fix it though
[21:56] <venik> someone said that we have to remove PulseAudio
[21:56] <venik> which might make my machine melt... who knows?
[21:56] <ScorpKing> hmm.. i'll keep that in mind next time
[21:58] <venik> well, removing pulse audio did not solve the problem
[21:59] <Mixed_--_> !forum
[22:04] <bloodwing> hello?
[22:04] <bloodwing> anyone there right now?
[22:05] <bloodwing> hello?
[22:05] <bloodwing> hello?
[22:05] <bloodwing> hello?
[22:05] <bloodwing> hello?
[22:06] <trappist> bloodwing: just ask a question man
[22:07] <bloodwing> huh
[22:07] <bloodwing> im jus borred... sorry.
[22:07] <trappist> yeah please don't do that
[22:19] <ys> hi! is there any way to run opengl apps under kubuntu with the NV driver?
[22:21] <ScorpKing> ys: it should just run. glgears is one
[22:25] <ys> ScorpKing: it doesn't
[22:25] <ys> ScXlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[22:26] <ys> Error: couldn't get and RGB, Double-buffered visual
[22:26] <ScorpKing> ah. you need to set glx in xorg.conf
[22:27] <ScorpKing> oh and it's glxgears btw
[22:27] <ys> yep, i noticed
[22:27] <ys> but can i load the glx extension with the NV driver?
[22:28] <ScorpKing> ys: i have a nvidia card, the drivers are loaded and glxgears works
[22:29] <ys> ScorpKing: you mean the nvidia binary-only drivers, isn't it?
[22:29] <ys> i don't want to run that drivers
[22:29] <ScorpKing> nah, the ones that comes with *ubuntu
[22:30] <ys> weird
[22:30] <ScorpKing> nvidia-glx-new to be exact
[22:32] <ScorpKing> ys: i see that glx is loaded in my xorg.conf as well
[22:33] <ScorpKing> nite guys
[22:35] <biopod> hi, anyone knows of a kde native application that can download automatically from RSS feeds?
[22:36] <reldruh> biopod: Kontact has a nice feed reader
[22:37] <biopod> reldruh: i need a feed reader that can download the links (after filtering them)
[22:38] <reldruh> biopod: I feel like I've seen that option before in kontact, but I can't find it now. Maybe it's in the kde3 version?
[22:40] <ys> so, somebody knows how to get GL working with the free NV driver?
[22:44] <BluesKaj>  installed kde4.1.2 now my login screen is frozen , mouse and kb is frozen as well.
[22:48] <BluesKaj> anyone here, I don't see any dialogue?
[22:48] <psyco> Hey guys, crazy problem here.
[22:48] <psyco> I added 1 GB of RAM (total 2GB now) and I added a new video card.
[22:49] <psyco> But now when I try to boot up kubuntu gets stuck at Starting Up...  and windows loads the starting screen then reboots.
[22:49] <psyco> Anyone know what went wrong.
[22:50] <BluesKaj> which video card psyco ?
[22:50] <psyco> Also, the video card is a dual monitor one. It booted up once but when I restarted X it never worked again.
[22:50] <psyco> ATI All in Wonder 9600 PRO
[22:50] <psyco> I used to have a Radeon 9200
[22:51] <psyco> What does recovery mode do if I boot up with that?
[22:52] <dougp> no more talk ?
[22:52] <BluesKaj> you might be able to reconfigure X to make it work
[22:52] <psyco> BluesKaj: yeah thats what I was thinking but I dont know how...
[22:53] <dougp> try editing the config text file
[22:53] <psyco> also, booting up in windows (same HD) not even safe mode works.
[22:53] <BluesKaj> psyco:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:53] <BluesKaj> uhoh , card driver problem maybe
[22:53] <psyco> BluesKaj: How do I do that if I cant boot up? live CD?
[22:55] <BluesKaj> ctrl+alt+f1 or f2 after starting the kernel , it'll bring you to a TTY prompt -terminal
[22:55] <dougp> have you tried booting to safe mode
[22:55] <BluesKaj> then do the commands
[22:55] <dougp> yes
[22:56] <cide> what?
[22:56] <psyco> I cant even get to the kernel. It just gets stuck on Starting Up  ... XD
[22:56] <dougp> then yes, use a live cd
[22:56] <psyco> ok
[22:56] <BluesKaj> when you choose the OS at startup is what i meam
[22:57] <BluesKaj> mean
[22:57] <psyco> oh ok
[22:57] <BluesKaj> gotta go , I can't X to start either
[22:57] <BluesKaj> later , good luck
[22:58] <psyco> XD I can't get a kernel at grub. Ill just use a live cd
[22:58] <psyco> ugggh its times like these I'd rather get a GRUB error XD
[23:01] <dougp> how do i turn off screensaver in bash
[23:06] <joshuajtl> hi folks I need to export JAVA_HOME properlly for an app I want to install, but I don't know... can anyone help me pls?
[23:07] <administrator> ello
[23:09] <psyco> Ok guys, so my major problem has a new development. I put my old vid card back and now, noting will boot up (still) so I think there is some sort of hardware corruption....
[23:12] <psyco> does anyone know if faulty RAM could cause a OS to not boot??
[23:12] <psyco> even though my PC sees the entire 2GB (1 GB and 1 GB that might be broken.
[23:17] <ys> yes, faulty RAM should cause a OS to not boot
[23:17] <ys> run the memtest86+ on the grub menu
[23:27] <dougp> ello
[23:44] <carib909> Help please. I cannot get to any of my network services or settings un kubuntu 8.04 Authentication error when I unlock!
[23:46] <carib909> Anyone available?
[23:55] <sean> Hey,
[23:56] <Guest72201> anyone know  how to setup dual screens (so that they are like one big one)
[23:57] <YAOMTC> I have the 32-bit Kubuntu, and I want to switch to the 64-bit version that I have on CD here. What would be the best way to go about this, allowing me to transfer/keep my files without an external hard drive?