| [Solars] | i wasn't | 00:06 |
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| trashguy | ^^ | 00:07 |
| uvirtbot | trashguy: Error: "^" is not a valid command. | 00:07 |
| [Solars] | strange that my internet starting working again for no reason | 00:12 |
| stainer | quit brb | 00:26 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #279372 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "packaging problem: libmysqld.a relocation R_X86_64_32" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/279372 | 00:26 |
| zul | sommer: ping | 01:48 |
| sommer | zul: yo | 01:49 |
| zul | where is the virtualization section in the server guide? | 01:49 |
| sommer | zul: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/virtualization.html | 01:50 |
| zul | sommer: thanks | 01:50 |
| sommer | zul: np | 01:51 |
| alyawn | if I want cron to email me (xubuntu 8.04), then I have to install sendmail? is that right? | 02:19 |
| sommer | alyawn: you can use another mta like ssmtp or postfix | 02:19 |
| alyawn | that is, email me at an external address | 02:20 |
| alyawn | is one more ubuntu-y than others? | 02:20 |
| sommer | ssmtp is very lightweight it needs to send messages to a "mail hub", so ya it can send to an outside address | 02:21 |
| sommer | while postfix is a full featured mta | 02:21 |
| nxvl | postfix ftw \o/ | 02:21 |
| sommer | heh | 02:21 |
| alyawn | ok.. I think I'll give ssmtp, since all I'm concerned about is getting cron notifications on an external mail account | 02:21 |
| sommer | for simple cron emails I use ssmtp | 02:21 |
| alyawn | I don't need a full blown smtp server | 02:22 |
| alyawn | thanks! | 02:22 |
| sommer | np | 02:22 |
| stainer | w | 03:05 |
| stainer | whoops | 03:05 |
| [Solars] | haha | 03:09 |
| === PrivateVoid_ is now known as PrivateVoid | ||
| FFEMTcJ | i have a recovery menu screen that i dont know what to do with it.. im running 8.04.1 server.. the options are resume dpkg root and xfix.. any ideas | 05:01 |
| kraut | moin | 07:42 |
| scuser | dear all, I'm running this command "ldapsearch -b "dc=sc,dc=bibalex,dc=org" -Y GSSAPI" and getting this error "ldap_sasl_interactive_bind_s: Other (e.g., implementation specific) error (80)" I've checked every suggested solution on the web but in vain could you help me please? | 08:21 |
| === freaky[t] is now known as fReAkY[t] | ||
| scuser | hi all, can anyone help me with this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/54915/ ? | 09:01 |
| [Solars] | res_errno: 80, res_error: <SASL(-1): generic failure: GSSAPI Error: Unspecified GSS failure. Minor code may provide more information (Permission denied)>, res_matched: <> | 09:18 |
| [Solars] | fix your permission | 09:18 |
| scuser | Solars: so how can I fix the permission, or which permission should I fix ? | 09:20 |
| scuser | Solars: which permissions ? | 09:38 |
| robotjox | i was wondering if anyone could help me troubleshoot vhosts on ubuntu I used the Drubuntu guide here: http://groups.drupal.org/node/6266 but it doesn't work :( | 09:46 |
| === mneptok_ is now known as mneptok | ||
| robotjox | i was wondering if anyone could help me troubleshoot vhosts on ubuntu? I can't get it to work - everything points to the same documentroot for some weird reason?! | 11:21 |
| * Gargoyle hides | 11:21 | |
| Gargoyle | ;) | 11:21 |
| robotjox | Gargoyle: hehe | 11:21 |
| Gargoyle | robotjox: The only other thing I can think of is that those vhost files are very minimal. You could try copying the extra directives from the default and editing as needed. | 11:25 |
| robotjox | Gargoyle: good idea! | 11:25 |
| robotjox | thanks | 11:25 |
| Gargoyle | At very least, you might need the <directory> directive | 11:25 |
| robotjox | ok | 11:27 |
| spikyjt | I've setup Postfix+Dovecot and installed pysieved to handle sieve scripts. The sieve scripts are created successfully, but not applied by Dovecot. I have added cmusieve plugin and sieve script path to dovecot.conf, but no joy. Any ideas? Thanks in advance | 11:56 |
| === masACC is now known as maswan | ||
| scuser | hi all, I want to replace the passwd, shadow and groups flat files by openldap db can anyone give me a hint on how to do this ? | 13:20 |
| sommer | scuser: this should get you started: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html | 13:24 |
| FrankT-Qc | Need help with cpu usage limittation on ubunttu server. Anyone can help ? | 13:33 |
| didrocks | jdstrand: when you will be back, do you have any time to have a look on my ufw merge integration? :) | 13:36 |
| draven1005 | I'm having a really... really strange problem and was hoping someone could help. I just built a new server with 6.06. From the server, I can ping anything on my network. However, if I go to a machine that I did not try to ping from the server, the requests time out. As soon as I ping that machine from the server (which works), then the other machine can start to ping the server. | 14:08 |
| draven1005 | i've never seen anything like this before and i dont understand whats happening. | 14:08 |
| zul | Koon: -rc11 fixes tls negotitation problems as well so yeah I would ask for the ffe | 14:10 |
| Koon | zul: yep + all those rc9 regressions | 14:11 |
| zul | yep yep | 14:11 |
| draven1005 | In other words, from Server I can ping A. From B, I can not ping Server. From Server, I can ping B, then after that point, B can ping server. | 14:13 |
| Koon | zul: should I open a separate bug just for the Ffe ? Or do it inside the current bug ? | 14:13 |
| brousch | draven1005, pinging by hostname or by ip address? | 14:14 |
| draven1005 | brousch: same results with both | 14:14 |
| zul | Koon: seperate bug, add the changelog, diffstat yadda yadda | 14:15 |
| draven1005 | brousch: the name resolves, but i'm not able to route to the host | 14:15 |
| brousch | draven1005, i have no ideas, sorry | 14:15 |
| === tclineks_ is now known as tclineks | ||
| jdstrand | didrocks: hi! yeah, I started to look at it and have decided that I will incorporate it, but it won't be in Ubuntu until jaunty | 14:52 |
| jdstrand | didrocks: thanks for your work on it! :) | 14:52 |
| uvirtbot` | New bug: #279632 in openldap2.3 (main) "package slapd 2.4.9-0ubuntu0.8.04.1 failed to install/upgrade: Unterprozess post-installation script gab den Fehlerwert 1 zur?ck" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/279632 | 14:52 |
| didrocks | jdstrand: my pleasure. Glade that you appreciate it :) | 14:53 |
| jdstrand | didrocks: I've got some security updates to do, so I likely won't merge it into trunk for a bit | 14:53 |
| didrocks | jdstrand: I just hope you will be able to merge it in a easy way, when it will be the time ;) | 14:54 |
| jdstrand | didrocks: it'll be the first code changes I work on when I get back to ufw | 14:54 |
| jdstrand | didrocks: so I shouldn't have a problem :) | 14:55 |
| didrocks | jdstrand: great :) | 14:55 |
| klos | hey ive got a messed up vserver runnign suse 10. i can only access it via ssh and if possible i would like to switch the distribution to ubuntu server | 14:58 |
| klos | is this possible? | 14:58 |
| draven1005 | I can ping anything on the network from my 6.06 server. But I can not route to the server from any host that has not first be pinged (or made any other form of connection) from the server. Server can ping A, A can ping Server. B can NOT ping Server until after Server pings B. Any ideas? | 14:58 |
| scuser | hi all, where could I find kdb5_ldap_util ?\ | 15:06 |
| StevenK | I get a FTBFS in myodbc with an undefined reference to `mysql_odbc_escape_string', and I was under the impression the server team looked after mysql-dfsg-5.0? | 15:16 |
| rysiek | hi guys | 15:16 |
| rysiek | I am an admin of an Ubuntu Server 6.06.x machine (yeah, I know, an oldie-goldie) | 15:17 |
| rysiek | and I am starting to find myself in need of virtualisation | 15:18 |
| rysiek | short question is: what would you guys suggest, taking into account that re-installing the system from scratch (read: Xen) is a no-go? | 15:18 |
| rysiek | and yes, it's a Xserver-less setup | 15:19 |
| rysiek | and yes, I am scorching google on this, too ;) | 15:19 |
| StevenK | VMWare Server? | 15:21 |
| rysiek | and from the Free-as-in-speech part of the world? | 15:21 |
| rysiek | StevenK: besides, does VMWare Server run without Xserver? | 15:21 |
| StevenK | Certainly does | 15:21 |
| rysiek | m'kay, thanks for the hint | 15:23 |
| rysiek | although I would prefer a FLOSS solution (is there any?) | 15:23 |
| uvirtbot` | New bug: #279655 in openvpn (universe) "[FFe] Merge openvpn 2.1_rc11-1 from Debian" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/279655 | 16:02 |
| draven1005 | Anyone ever install MySQL with csv-storage-engine | 16:35 |
| ivoks | umm... linux-virutal is for guests, right? | 16:56 |
| _ruben | yes | 16:56 |
| Koon | zul: Ffe request for openvpn has been posted, feel free to review it (bug 279655) | 17:12 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 279655 in openvpn "[FFe] Merge openvpn 2.1_rc11-1 from Debian" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/279655 | 17:12 |
| _ruben | wonder if openvpn 2.1 will ever reach final .. been beta/rc for ages now | 17:15 |
| === fReAkY[t] is now known as freaky[t] | ||
| james_w | hi all. I want to alert you to bug 275432. It only affects server installs really. | 19:15 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 275432 in policykit "libpolkit requires files from policykit for polkit_context_init to work" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/275432 | 19:15 |
| ivoks | hm... odd | 19:17 |
| ivoks | -virtual kernel freezes on my vmware | 19:18 |
| ivoks | and always during apt-get :/ | 19:18 |
| sommer | I think I've seen that too... but with kvm | 19:27 |
| ivoks | something is missing in kernel :/ | 19:27 |
| ivoks | i just realized that it doesn't freeze | 19:28 |
| ivoks | apt-get hangs | 19:28 |
| ivoks | and i can't even ctrl+c it | 19:28 |
| ivoks | i can kill, but can't room top - that freezes too | 19:28 |
| ivoks | very strange | 19:28 |
| sommer | ya, I thought it was just me | 19:28 |
| sommer | actually planned on digging into the issue deeper this evening :0 | 19:29 |
| ivoks | :) | 19:29 |
| ivoks | sommer: is that with hardy or intrepid? | 19:29 |
| sommer | intrepid | 19:30 |
| uvirtbot` | New bug: #279754 in kvm (main) "Intrepid fails to install onto virtio block device" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/279754 | 19:30 |
| sommer | ivoks: with intrepid guest, but I've also seen it with debian guests | 19:30 |
| ivoks | hm... i'm seeing this with hardy guest on hardy | 19:30 |
| sommer | ah, might be a different issue than | 19:30 |
| ivoks | or the same :D | 19:31 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: could summarize the evdev bug you've fixed in kvm? | 19:33 |
| sommer | I'll see what I can come up with this evening, up the logging or something | 19:33 |
| ivoks | i've watched the logs, noting in it | 19:33 |
| ivoks | i might debug kernel... | 19:33 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: basically, i ported a patch that existed for virt-manager to qemu and the qemu inside of our kvm package | 19:36 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: right - what was the problem? | 19:37 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: by virt-manager, i mean gtk-vnc | 19:37 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: oneliner: incorrect keymapping | 19:39 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: detailed explanation: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2008-August/026076.html | 19:39 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: ok - thanks - I'll dig into that | 19:39 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: we went with soren's option 3 | 19:39 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: which was the "hardest", but the "most correct" of the 3 approaches | 19:40 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: and we're all better people because of it ;-) | 19:40 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: ok - that's the message I'll try to get accross then - better-people-we-are-now-:D | 19:40 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: you working on a blog post, or something? | 19:42 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: yeah - the monthly archive report | 19:56 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: you could also mention the hal integration i did | 19:57 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: done :D | 19:57 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: fwiw, i responded to soren's note on ubuntu-devel, "closing" the issue and pointing at the bug/patch | 20:14 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: most for internet crawlers and googlers out there searching this issue | 20:14 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: the thread had left it sort of "open" | 20:14 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: thanks for reminding me to do that ;-) | 20:15 |
| kirkland | i had been meaning too | 20:15 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: so you've fixed both qemu and kvm? | 20:16 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: yes | 20:16 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: there's a qemu package in universe, which i patched and pushed out | 20:17 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: and there's a qemu that's internal to our kvm package | 20:17 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: i don't entirely understand why we did it that way | 20:17 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: but it's been patched in all 3 places | 20:18 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: http://paste.ubuntu.com/55094/ <- is that a good overview ? | 20:18 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: you might want to mention gtk-vnc, which is what virt-manager uses | 20:21 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: that's where the original patch came from | 20:21 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: i ported to kvm/qemu | 20:21 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: bug 279754 - we were just dicussing that in the meeting this morning | 20:34 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 279754 in kvm "Intrepid fails to install onto virtio block device" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/279754 | 20:35 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: how do you install on a virtio device? | 20:39 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: i always install to a plain image file | 20:40 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: when you define your root disk in libvirt you can set the bus attribute to virtio | 20:42 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: http://libvirt.org/formatdomain.html#elementsDisks | 20:43 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: when specifying the target device - you can set the bus to virtio | 20:43 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: in which case your device will be seen as /dev/vda in your guest. | 20:44 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: you can do the same with a network device and set it to use virtnet | 20:44 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: through the virt-manager wizard? | 20:50 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: hm - I don't think so | 20:51 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: I'm using virsh to create the vm definition | 20:51 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: I think that's what we pulled out for hardy - the ability to set virtio as an option in virt-manager | 20:51 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: although I'm not sure exactly. | 20:52 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: okay, i don't use virsh... what are the commands to create a virtio disk? | 20:52 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: the easiest way is to dump the guest configuration with the dumpxml command | 20:52 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: virsh dumpxml name-of-guest | 20:52 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: then edit the xml file | 20:52 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: and redefine the guest with the define command | 20:53 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: virsh define name-of-guest.xml | 20:53 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: hmm, i must not be asking the right question.... | 20:53 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: when i create a virtual machine, i do everything from the command line, and there are just two steps | 20:53 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: qemu-img create | 20:53 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: kvm -hda foo.img | 20:54 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: hm - I don't know then. | 20:54 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: I'm using libvirt to manage the kvm machines | 20:54 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: there is probably a switch somewhere to say that it should use a virtio driver | 20:55 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: -drive file=/dev/ubuntu/vm_t-dovecot,if=virtio | 20:56 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: ^^ that seems to be the option to attach a drive with virtio in kvm | 20:57 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: how did you create /dev/ubuntu/vm_t-dovecot ? | 20:58 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: it's an lvm snapshot | 20:58 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: how do you create that | 20:59 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: you can use a normal lv also | 20:59 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: with the lvcreate command | 21:00 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: may be you cannot use virtio when you're using files - only if you're using a device on the host. | 21:00 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: okay, i'll need to set up a new intrepid host with LVM then | 21:01 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: it'll either be late tonight or tomorrow before i can reinstall a test machine here with LVM | 21:12 |
| === mcasadevall is now known as NCommander | ||
| uvirtbot` | New bug: #279819 in openldap (main) "intrepid: slapd: Unrecognized database type (bdb) " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/279819 | 21:15 |
| RediXe | I am using ACL to set group and permissions when a new file or directory is created but how can I get the group and permissions set when a file is saved to the directory? | 21:28 |
| ivoks | RediXe: saving file = creating file | 21:35 |
| RediXe | ivoks: if I right click and say new file it's fine. If I scan in something and hit file save the permissions are not the same | 21:36 |
| juak | hello, need help with iptables missing libs | 21:36 |
| ivoks | RediXe: you have to change permissions on existing files | 21:36 |
| juak | on default installation of hardy server, and trying to use the ROUTE modules it fails with "iptables v1.3.8: Couldn't load target `ROUTE':/lib/iptables/libipt_ROUTE.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" | 21:37 |
| RediXe | ivoks: ? Right now we run a script after saving a file to the directory that changes the owner/group and sets permissions. It does it recursively. | 21:38 |
| ivoks | route? | 21:38 |
| RediXe | ivoks: Without that script the newly saved file is set as the user:user instead of user:mygroup and has read only rights. | 21:39 |
| ivoks | RediXe: are you talking about ACL or normal unix permissions? | 21:39 |
| juak | yes, the 'route' iptables jump target | 21:40 |
| RediXe | ivoks: I used ACL to have it auto set the group and permission for me. ( setfacl -dm g:escrow:rwx /home/common/ ) ... I need the files placed in /home/common to have the group escrow with rwx no matter how that file is placed in that directory | 21:41 |
| ivoks | RediXe: you are mixing ACL with classic user/group permissions | 21:43 |
| ivoks | RediXe: if you set ACL -dm for a group | 21:43 |
| ivoks | (btw, you should do -Rdm) | 21:43 |
| ivoks | then you are setting ACL for a group, and the group in classic sense is irrelevant | 21:44 |
| RediXe | ivoks: I'm not very good at this user/group thing :P Is it possible to have the file's that are placed in /home/common to have there group set to escrow and to have the group permission of rwx automatically or do we have to manually change the group and permissions by hand? | 21:47 |
| ivoks | RediXe: you can have automaticaly, yes | 21:48 |
| ivoks | RediXe: if that's an SMB/CIFS share, you could force group in smb.conf | 21:48 |
| RediXe | ivoks: the /home/common is being shared with sshfs to other employees | 21:49 |
| ivoks | eh | 21:49 |
| ivoks | i don't know about that filesystem | 21:50 |
| ivoks | but you could fix that on lower level | 21:50 |
| ivoks | example: | 21:50 |
| ivoks | # mkdir /tmp/TEST | 21:50 |
| ivoks | # chmod 3775 /tmp/TEST | 21:50 |
| ivoks | # chown root:users /tmp/TEST | 21:51 |
| ivoks | $ touch /tmp/TEST/bla | 21:51 |
| ivoks | if user is member of users group, the file would be owned by users group | 21:51 |
| ivoks | even tough it's primary group is something else | 21:52 |
| ivoks | for that you don't need ACLs | 21:52 |
| ivoks | so... | 21:52 |
| ivoks | chmod 3775 /home/common | 21:52 |
| ivoks | chown root:escrow /home/common | 21:53 |
| ivoks | all of your users need to be members of escrow group for this to work | 21:53 |
| RediXe | ivoks: remove the ACL i have on it? | 21:53 |
| RediXe | ivoks: The users are part of escrow | 21:53 |
| ivoks | there's no need to remove ACL, leave it for now | 21:54 |
| ivoks | test this solution | 21:54 |
| * [Solars] thinkgs ivoks is the helper god of the channel monday-friday morning to afternoon support | 22:02 | |
| RediXe | ivoks: It seems to be almost working - the group was set to escrow but group only had read only access | 22:04 |
| ivoks | RediXe: that's another issue | 22:04 |
| RediXe | ivoks: lol, and what's my solutions? :P | 22:05 |
| ivoks | each user has an umask value | 22:05 |
| ivoks | if that value is 027, then all files created would be 750 | 22:05 |
| ivoks | if umask is 007, then all files would be 770 | 22:05 |
| RediXe | How do I find the umask value? | 22:06 |
| ivoks | in ~/.profile | 22:06 |
| ivoks | RediXe: are those ubuntu clients? | 22:06 |
| RediXe | ivoks: yes - ubuntu server and clients | 22:07 |
| RediXe | well xubuntu clients | 22:07 |
| ivoks | RediXe: then change on each client machine /etc/profile | 22:07 |
| ivoks | RediXe: at the end of the file, there's umask 022, change it to 002 | 22:07 |
| ivoks | RediXe: another option is to check options for sshfs | 22:07 |
| ivoks | RediXe: maybe it is possible to force permissions | 22:08 |
| RediXe | ivoks: I really have no idea - my boss set up the sshfs and said here is where I'm at and this is where I want to be | 22:09 |
| ivoks | RediXe: have you tried mounting with option gid=escrow? | 22:11 |
| ivoks | or, even better | 22:11 |
| ivoks | gid=escrow,umask=002 | 22:11 |
| ivoks | that should work | 22:11 |
| RediXe | ivoks: changing the umask in /etc/profile from 022 to 002 didn't change the permission | 22:11 |
| ivoks | RediXe: it didn't change on existing files | 22:12 |
| RediXe | Did that on the client machine | 22:12 |
| RediXe | Well I went in there and saved a new file to check | 22:12 |
| ivoks | user should logout and log in again also | 22:12 |
| RediXe | ahhh okay | 22:12 |
| ivoks | to pick up new settings | 22:12 |
| RediXe | ivoks: Yup that seemed to work .. now I can check about using those options above when mounting | 22:14 |
| ivoks | RediXe: mount options would be better solution than changing umask in /etc/profile | 22:14 |
| ivoks | but... i never worked with sshfs, i don't know if something like that is possible | 22:17 |
| maw | anyone using likewise-open for AD authentication when using SSH? | 22:29 |
| RediXe | ivoks: It appears to work .. right click file owner and group have read/write yet getting access denied when trying to delete the test files | 22:30 |
| ivoks | files are content of directory | 22:30 |
| ivoks | if you don't have rw access to a dir, you can't change it's content | 22:31 |
| ivoks | thus, you can't delete or create files | 22:31 |
| RediXe | drwxrwsr-t+ 20 root escrow 4096 2008-10-07 16:29 common | 22:31 |
| ivoks | ah... i'm tierd | 22:32 |
| ivoks | tired even | 22:33 |
| RediXe | ivoks: You might have had it right in the first place - boss ran the script to chmod and chown the directory | 22:34 |
| RediXe | ivoks: so he over wrote the 3775 | 22:34 |
| RediXe | ivoks: meh, it's read only | 22:35 |
| ivoks | RediXe: i've explained couple of ways to solve this, not it's up to you to play with it | 22:36 |
| ivoks | it's midnight here and i have no plans on sticking here for another minute | 22:36 |
| RediXe | ivoks: I am :P | 22:36 |
| RediXe | ivoks: Well, thanks for the help ... I'll be back tomorrow to bug you some more | 22:36 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: ping | 23:40 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: have you tested today's server iso's? | 23:40 |
| robnyc | sup everyone | 23:41 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: nope | 23:42 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: has the world ended? | 23:42 |
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