[00:06] <[Solars]> i wasn't
[00:07] <trashguy> ^^
[00:12] <[Solars]> strange that my internet starting working again for no reason
[00:26] <stainer> quit brb
[01:48] <zul> sommer: ping
[01:49] <sommer> zul: yo
[01:49] <zul> where is the virtualization section in the server guide?
[01:50] <sommer> zul: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/virtualization.html
[01:50] <zul> sommer: thanks
[01:51] <sommer> zul: np
[02:19] <alyawn> if I want cron to email me (xubuntu 8.04), then I have to install sendmail? is that right?
[02:19] <sommer> alyawn: you can use another mta like ssmtp or postfix
[02:20] <alyawn> that is, email me at an external address
[02:20] <alyawn> is one more ubuntu-y than others?
[02:21] <sommer> ssmtp is very lightweight it needs to send messages to a "mail hub", so ya it can send to an outside address
[02:21] <sommer> while postfix is a full featured mta
[02:21] <nxvl> postfix ftw \o/
[02:21] <sommer> heh
[02:21] <alyawn> ok.. I think I'll give ssmtp, since all I'm concerned about is getting cron notifications on an external mail account
[02:21] <sommer> for simple cron emails I use ssmtp
[02:22] <alyawn> I don't need a full blown smtp server
[02:22] <alyawn> thanks!
[02:22] <sommer> np
[03:05] <stainer> w
[03:05] <stainer> whoops
[03:09] <[Solars]> haha
[05:01] <FFEMTcJ> i have a recovery menu screen that i dont know what to do with it.. im running 8.04.1 server.. the options are resume dpkg root and xfix.. any ideas
[07:42] <kraut> moin
[08:21] <scuser> dear all, I'm running this command "ldapsearch -b "dc=sc,dc=bibalex,dc=org" -Y GSSAPI" and getting this error "ldap_sasl_interactive_bind_s: Other (e.g., implementation specific) error (80)" I've checked every suggested solution on the web but in vain could you help me please?
[09:01] <scuser> hi all, can anyone help me with this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/54915/ ?
[09:18] <[Solars]> res_errno: 80, res_error: <SASL(-1): generic failure: GSSAPI Error: Unspecified GSS failure. Minor code may provide more information (Permission denied)>, res_matched: <>
[09:18] <[Solars]> fix your permission
[09:20] <scuser> Solars: so how can I fix the permission, or which permission should I fix ?
[09:38] <scuser> Solars: which permissions ?
[09:46] <robotjox> i was wondering if anyone could help me troubleshoot vhosts on ubuntu I used the Drubuntu guide here: http://groups.drupal.org/node/6266  but it doesn't work :(
[11:21] <robotjox> i was wondering if anyone could help me troubleshoot vhosts on ubuntu? I can't get it to work - everything points to the same documentroot for some weird reason?!
[11:21]  * Gargoyle hides
[11:21] <Gargoyle> ;)
[11:21] <robotjox> Gargoyle: hehe
[11:25] <Gargoyle> robotjox: The only other thing I can think of is that those vhost files are very minimal. You could try copying the extra directives from the default and editing as needed.
[11:25] <robotjox> Gargoyle: good idea!
[11:25] <robotjox> thanks
[11:25] <Gargoyle> At very least, you might need the <directory> directive
[11:27] <robotjox> ok
[11:56] <spikyjt> I've setup Postfix+Dovecot and installed pysieved to handle sieve scripts. The sieve scripts are created successfully, but not applied by Dovecot. I have added cmusieve plugin and sieve script path to dovecot.conf, but no joy. Any ideas? Thanks in advance
[13:20] <scuser> hi all, I want to replace the passwd, shadow and groups flat files by openldap db can anyone give me a hint on how to do this ?
[13:24] <sommer> scuser: this should get you started: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html
[13:33] <FrankT-Qc> Need help with cpu usage limittation on ubunttu server. Anyone can help ?
[13:36] <didrocks> jdstrand: when you will be back, do you have any time to have a look on my ufw merge integration? :)
[14:08] <draven1005> I'm having a really... really strange problem and was hoping someone could help.  I just built a new server with 6.06.  From the server, I can ping anything on my network.  However, if I go to a machine that I did not try to ping from the server, the requests time out.  As soon as I ping that machine from the server (which works), then the other machine can start to ping the server.
[14:08] <draven1005> i've never seen anything like this before and i dont understand whats happening.
[14:10] <zul> Koon: -rc11 fixes tls negotitation problems as well so yeah I would ask for the ffe
[14:11] <Koon> zul: yep + all those rc9 regressions
[14:11] <zul> yep yep
[14:13] <draven1005> ﻿In other words,  from Server I can ping A.  From B, I can not ping Server.  From Server, I can ping B, then after that point, B can ping server.
[14:13] <Koon> zul: should I open a separate bug just for the Ffe ? Or do it inside the current bug ?
[14:14] <brousch> draven1005, pinging by hostname or by ip address?
[14:14] <draven1005> brousch: same results with both
[14:15] <zul> Koon: seperate bug, add the changelog, diffstat yadda yadda
[14:15] <draven1005> brousch: the name resolves, but i'm not able to route to the host
[14:15] <brousch> draven1005, i have no ideas, sorry
[14:52] <jdstrand> didrocks: hi! yeah, I started to look at it and have decided that I will incorporate it, but it won't be in Ubuntu until jaunty
[14:52] <jdstrand> didrocks: thanks for your work on it! :)
[14:52] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #279632 in openldap2.3 (main) "package slapd 2.4.9-0ubuntu0.8.04.1 failed to install/upgrade: Unterprozess post-installation script gab den Fehlerwert 1 zur?ck" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/279632
[14:53] <didrocks> jdstrand: my pleasure. Glade that you appreciate it :)
[14:53] <jdstrand> didrocks: I've got some security updates to do, so I likely won't merge it into trunk for a bit
[14:54] <didrocks> jdstrand: I just hope you will be able to merge it in a easy way, when it will be the time ;)
[14:54] <jdstrand> didrocks: it'll be the first code changes I work on when I get back to ufw
[14:55] <jdstrand> didrocks: so I shouldn't have a problem :)
[14:55] <didrocks> jdstrand: great :)
[14:58] <klos> hey ive got a messed up vserver runnign suse 10. i can only access it via ssh and if possible i would like to switch the distribution to ubuntu server
[14:58] <klos> is this possible?
[14:58] <draven1005> I can ping anything on the network from my 6.06 server.  But I can not route to the server from any host that has not first be pinged (or made any other form of connection) from the server.   Server can ping A, A can ping Server.  B can NOT ping Server until after Server pings B.     Any ideas?
[15:06] <scuser> hi all, where could I find kdb5_ldap_util ?\
[15:16] <StevenK> I get a FTBFS in myodbc with an undefined reference to `mysql_odbc_escape_string', and I was under the impression the server team looked after mysql-dfsg-5.0?
[15:16] <rysiek> hi guys
[15:17] <rysiek> I am an admin of an Ubuntu Server 6.06.x machine (yeah, I know, an oldie-goldie)
[15:18] <rysiek> and I am starting to find myself in need of virtualisation
[15:18] <rysiek> short question is: what would you guys suggest, taking into account that re-installing the system from scratch (read: Xen) is a no-go?
[15:19] <rysiek> and yes, it's a Xserver-less setup
[15:19] <rysiek> and yes, I am scorching google on this, too ;)
[15:21] <StevenK> VMWare Server?
[15:21] <rysiek> and from the Free-as-in-speech part of the world?
[15:21] <rysiek> StevenK: besides, does VMWare Server run without Xserver?
[15:21] <StevenK> Certainly does
[15:23] <rysiek> m'kay, thanks for the hint
[15:23] <rysiek> although I would prefer a FLOSS solution (is there any?)
[16:02] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #279655 in openvpn (universe) "[FFe] Merge openvpn 2.1_rc11-1 from Debian" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/279655
[16:35] <draven1005> Anyone ever install MySQL with csv-storage-engine
[16:56] <ivoks> umm... linux-virutal is for guests, right?
[16:56] <_ruben> yes
[17:12] <Koon> zul: Ffe request for openvpn has been posted, feel free to review it (bug 279655)
[17:12] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 279655 in openvpn "[FFe] Merge openvpn 2.1_rc11-1 from Debian" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/279655
[17:15] <_ruben> wonder if openvpn 2.1 will ever reach final .. been beta/rc for ages now
[19:15] <james_w> hi all. I want to alert you to bug 275432. It only affects server installs really.
[19:15] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 275432 in policykit "libpolkit requires files from policykit for polkit_context_init to work" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/275432
[19:17] <ivoks> hm... odd
[19:18] <ivoks> -virtual kernel freezes on my vmware
[19:18] <ivoks> and always during apt-get :/
[19:27] <sommer> I think I've seen that too... but with kvm
[19:27] <ivoks> something is missing in kernel :/
[19:28] <ivoks> i just realized that it doesn't freeze
[19:28] <ivoks> apt-get hangs
[19:28] <ivoks> and i can't even ctrl+c it
[19:28] <ivoks> i can kill, but can't room top - that freezes too
[19:28] <ivoks> very strange
[19:28] <sommer> ya, I thought it was just me
[19:29] <sommer> actually planned on digging into the issue deeper this evening :0
[19:29] <ivoks> :)
[19:29] <ivoks> sommer: is that with hardy or intrepid?
[19:30] <sommer> intrepid
[19:30] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #279754 in kvm (main) "Intrepid fails to install onto virtio block device" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/279754
[19:30] <sommer> ivoks: with intrepid guest, but I've also seen it with debian guests
[19:30] <ivoks> hm... i'm seeing this with hardy guest on hardy
[19:30] <sommer> ah, might be a different issue than
[19:31] <ivoks> or the same :D
[19:33] <mathiaz> kirkland: could summarize the evdev bug you've fixed in kvm?
[19:33] <sommer> I'll see what I can come up with this evening, up the logging or something
[19:33] <ivoks> i've watched the logs, noting in it
[19:33] <ivoks> i might debug kernel...
[19:36] <kirkland> mathiaz: basically, i ported a patch that existed for virt-manager to qemu and the qemu inside of our kvm package
[19:37] <mathiaz> kirkland: right - what was the problem?
[19:37] <kirkland> mathiaz: by virt-manager, i mean gtk-vnc
[19:39] <kirkland> mathiaz: oneliner: incorrect keymapping
[19:39] <kirkland> mathiaz: detailed explanation: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2008-August/026076.html
[19:39] <mathiaz> kirkland: ok - thanks - I'll dig into that
[19:39] <kirkland> mathiaz: we went with soren's option 3
[19:40] <kirkland> mathiaz: which was the "hardest", but the "most correct" of the 3 approaches
[19:40] <kirkland> mathiaz: and we're all better people because of it ;-)
[19:40] <mathiaz> kirkland: ok - that's the message I'll try to get accross then - better-people-we-are-now-:D
[19:42] <kirkland> mathiaz: you working on a blog post, or something?
[19:56] <mathiaz> kirkland: yeah - the monthly archive report
[19:57] <kirkland> mathiaz: you could also mention the hal integration i did
[19:57] <mathiaz> kirkland: done :D
[20:14] <kirkland> mathiaz: fwiw, i responded to soren's note on ubuntu-devel, "closing" the issue and pointing at the bug/patch
[20:14] <kirkland> mathiaz: most for internet crawlers and googlers out there searching this issue
[20:14] <kirkland> mathiaz: the thread had left it sort of "open"
[20:15] <kirkland> mathiaz: thanks for reminding me to do that ;-)
[20:15] <kirkland> i had been meaning too
[20:16] <mathiaz> kirkland: so you've fixed both qemu and kvm?
[20:16] <kirkland> mathiaz: yes
[20:17] <kirkland> mathiaz: there's a qemu package in universe, which i patched and pushed out
[20:17] <kirkland> mathiaz: and there's a qemu that's internal to our kvm package
[20:17] <kirkland> mathiaz: i don't entirely understand why we did it that way
[20:18] <kirkland> mathiaz: but it's been patched in all 3 places
[20:18] <mathiaz> kirkland: http://paste.ubuntu.com/55094/ <- is that a good overview ?
[20:21] <kirkland> mathiaz: you might want to mention gtk-vnc, which is what virt-manager uses
[20:21] <kirkland> mathiaz: that's where the original patch came from
[20:21] <kirkland> mathiaz: i ported to kvm/qemu
[20:34] <mathiaz> kirkland: bug 279754 - we were just dicussing that in the meeting this morning
[20:35] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 279754 in kvm "Intrepid fails to install onto virtio block device" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/279754
[20:39] <kirkland> mathiaz: how do you install on a virtio device?
[20:40] <kirkland> mathiaz: i always install to a plain image file
[20:42] <mathiaz> kirkland: when you define your root disk in libvirt you can set the bus attribute to virtio
[20:43] <mathiaz> kirkland: http://libvirt.org/formatdomain.html#elementsDisks
[20:43] <mathiaz> kirkland: when specifying the target device - you can set the bus to virtio
[20:44] <mathiaz> kirkland: in which case your device will be seen as /dev/vda in your guest.
[20:44] <mathiaz> kirkland: you can do the same with a network device and set it to use virtnet
[20:50] <kirkland> mathiaz: through the virt-manager wizard?
[20:51] <mathiaz> kirkland: hm - I don't think so
[20:51] <mathiaz> kirkland: I'm using virsh to create the vm definition
[20:51] <mathiaz> kirkland: I think that's what we pulled out for hardy - the ability to set virtio as an option in virt-manager
[20:52] <mathiaz> kirkland: although I'm not sure exactly.
[20:52] <kirkland> mathiaz: okay, i don't use virsh...  what are the commands to create a virtio disk?
[20:52] <mathiaz> kirkland: the easiest way is to dump the guest configuration with the dumpxml command
[20:52] <mathiaz> kirkland: virsh dumpxml name-of-guest
[20:52] <mathiaz> kirkland: then edit the xml file
[20:53] <mathiaz> kirkland: and redefine the guest with the define command
[20:53] <mathiaz> kirkland: virsh define name-of-guest.xml
[20:53] <kirkland> mathiaz: hmm, i must not be asking the right question....
[20:53] <kirkland> mathiaz: when i create a virtual machine, i do everything from the command line, and there are just two steps
[20:53] <kirkland> mathiaz: qemu-img create
[20:54] <kirkland> mathiaz: kvm -hda foo.img
[20:54] <mathiaz> kirkland: hm - I don't know then.
[20:54] <mathiaz> kirkland: I'm using libvirt to manage the kvm machines
[20:55] <mathiaz> kirkland: there is probably a switch somewhere to say that it should use a virtio driver
[20:56] <mathiaz> kirkland: -drive file=/dev/ubuntu/vm_t-dovecot,if=virtio
[20:57] <mathiaz> kirkland: ^^ that seems to be the option to attach a drive with virtio in kvm
[20:58] <kirkland> mathiaz: how did you create /dev/ubuntu/vm_t-dovecot ?
[20:58] <mathiaz> kirkland: it's an lvm snapshot
[20:59] <kirkland> mathiaz: how do you create that
[20:59] <mathiaz> kirkland: you can use a normal lv also
[21:00] <mathiaz> kirkland: with the lvcreate command
[21:00] <mathiaz> kirkland: may be you cannot use virtio when you're using files - only if you're using a device on the host.
[21:01] <kirkland> mathiaz: okay, i'll need to set up a new intrepid host with LVM then
[21:12] <kirkland> mathiaz: it'll either be late tonight or tomorrow before i can reinstall a test machine here with LVM
[21:15] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #279819 in openldap (main) "intrepid: slapd: Unrecognized database type (bdb) " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/279819
[21:28] <RediXe> I am using ACL to set group and permissions when a new file or directory is created but how can I get the group and permissions set when a file is saved to the directory?
[21:35] <ivoks> RediXe: saving file = creating file
[21:36] <RediXe> ivoks: if I right click and say new file it's fine. If I scan in something and hit file save the permissions are not the same
[21:36] <juak> hello, need help with iptables missing libs
[21:36] <ivoks> RediXe: you have to change permissions on existing files
[21:37] <juak> on default installation of hardy server, and trying to use the ROUTE modules it fails with "iptables v1.3.8: Couldn't load target `ROUTE':/lib/iptables/libipt_ROUTE.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[21:38] <RediXe> ivoks: ? Right now we run a script after saving a file to the directory that changes the owner/group and sets permissions. It does it recursively.
[21:38] <ivoks> route?
[21:39] <RediXe> ivoks: Without that script the newly saved file is set as the user:user instead of user:mygroup and has read only rights.
[21:39] <ivoks> RediXe: are you talking about ACL or normal unix permissions?
[21:40] <juak> yes, the 'route' iptables jump target
[21:41] <RediXe> ivoks: I used ACL to have it auto set the group and permission for me. ( setfacl -dm g:escrow:rwx /home/common/ )    ... I need the files placed in /home/common to have the group escrow with rwx no matter how that file is placed in that directory
[21:43] <ivoks> RediXe: you are mixing ACL with classic user/group permissions
[21:43] <ivoks> RediXe: if you set ACL -dm for a group
[21:43] <ivoks> (btw, you should do -Rdm)
[21:44] <ivoks> then you are setting ACL for a group, and the group in classic sense is irrelevant
[21:47] <RediXe> ivoks: I'm not very good at this user/group thing :P    Is it possible to have the file's that are placed in /home/common to have there group set to escrow and to have the group permission of rwx automatically or do we have to manually change the group and permissions by hand?
[21:48] <ivoks> RediXe: you can have automaticaly, yes
[21:48] <ivoks> RediXe: if that's an SMB/CIFS share, you could force group in smb.conf
[21:49] <RediXe> ivoks: the /home/common is being shared with sshfs to other employees
[21:49] <ivoks> eh
[21:50] <ivoks> i don't know about that filesystem
[21:50] <ivoks> but you could fix that on lower level
[21:50] <ivoks> example:
[21:50] <ivoks> # mkdir /tmp/TEST
[21:50] <ivoks> # chmod 3775 /tmp/TEST
[21:51] <ivoks> # chown root:users /tmp/TEST
[21:51] <ivoks> $ touch /tmp/TEST/bla
[21:51] <ivoks> if user is member of users group, the file would be owned by users group
[21:52] <ivoks> even tough it's primary group is something else
[21:52] <ivoks> for that you don't need ACLs
[21:52] <ivoks> so...
[21:52] <ivoks> chmod 3775 /home/common
[21:53] <ivoks> chown root:escrow /home/common
[21:53] <ivoks> all of your users need to be members of escrow group for this to work
[21:53] <RediXe> ivoks: remove the ACL i have on it?
[21:53] <RediXe> ivoks: The users are part of escrow
[21:54] <ivoks> there's no need to remove ACL, leave it for now
[21:54] <ivoks> test this solution
[22:02]  * [Solars] thinkgs ivoks is the helper god of the channel monday-friday morning to afternoon support
[22:04] <RediXe> ivoks: It seems to be almost working - the group was set to escrow but group only had read only access
[22:04] <ivoks> RediXe: that's another issue
[22:05] <RediXe> ivoks: lol, and what's my solutions? :P
[22:05] <ivoks> each user has an umask value
[22:05] <ivoks> if that value is 027, then all files created would be 750
[22:05] <ivoks> if umask is 007, then all files would be 770
[22:06] <RediXe> How do I find the umask value?
[22:06] <ivoks> in ~/.profile
[22:06] <ivoks> RediXe: are those ubuntu clients?
[22:07] <RediXe> ivoks: yes - ubuntu server and clients
[22:07] <RediXe> well xubuntu clients
[22:07] <ivoks> RediXe: then change on each client machine /etc/profile
[22:07] <ivoks> RediXe: at the end of the file, there's umask 022, change it to 002
[22:07] <ivoks> RediXe: another option is to check options for sshfs
[22:08] <ivoks> RediXe: maybe it is possible to force permissions
[22:09] <RediXe> ivoks: I really have no idea - my boss set up the sshfs and said here is where I'm at and this is where I want to be
[22:11] <ivoks> RediXe: have you tried mounting with option gid=escrow?
[22:11] <ivoks> or, even better
[22:11] <ivoks> gid=escrow,umask=002
[22:11] <ivoks> that should work
[22:11] <RediXe> ivoks: changing the umask in /etc/profile from 022 to 002 didn't change the permission
[22:12] <ivoks> RediXe: it didn't change on existing files
[22:12] <RediXe> Did that on the client machine
[22:12] <RediXe> Well I went in there and saved a new file to check
[22:12] <ivoks> user should logout and log in again also
[22:12] <RediXe> ahhh okay
[22:12] <ivoks> to pick up new settings
[22:14] <RediXe> ivoks: Yup that seemed to work .. now I can check about using those options above when mounting
[22:14] <ivoks> RediXe: mount options would be better solution than changing umask in /etc/profile
[22:17] <ivoks> but... i never worked with sshfs, i don't know if something like that is possible
[22:29] <maw> anyone using likewise-open for AD authentication when using SSH?
[22:30] <RediXe> ivoks: It appears to work .. right click file owner and group have read/write yet getting access denied when trying to delete the test files
[22:30] <ivoks> files are content of directory
[22:31] <ivoks> if you don't have rw access to a dir, you can't change it's content
[22:31] <ivoks> thus, you can't delete or create files
[22:31] <RediXe> drwxrwsr-t+ 20 root     escrow   4096 2008-10-07 16:29 common
[22:32] <ivoks> ah... i'm tierd
[22:33] <ivoks> tired even
[22:34] <RediXe> ivoks: You might have had it right in the first place - boss ran the script to chmod and chown the directory
[22:34] <RediXe> ivoks: so he over wrote the 3775
[22:35] <RediXe> ivoks: meh, it's read only
[22:36] <ivoks> RediXe: i've explained couple of ways to solve this, not it's up to you to play with it
[22:36] <ivoks> it's midnight here and i have no plans on sticking here for another minute
[22:36] <RediXe> ivoks: I am :P
[22:36] <RediXe> ivoks: Well, thanks for the help ... I'll be back tomorrow to bug you some more
[23:40] <kirkland> mathiaz: ping
[23:40] <kirkland> mathiaz: have you tested today's server iso's?
[23:41] <robnyc> sup everyone
[23:42] <mathiaz> kirkland: nope
[23:42] <mathiaz> kirkland: has the world ended?