| belgarath_ | xxubuxx have you tried to run pppconfig? | 00:00 |
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| Zappza | I want to run Ubuntu from my USB stick, however it isn't big enough for it to install. Therefore I thought about xubuntu, The only question I have, is wether the Update Manager is the same in xubuntu as in Ubuntu? | 00:00 |
| Zappza | And what are really the differences between the two versions? | 00:00 |
| Zappza | I really miss a comparison table to be hones | 00:00 |
| Zappza | honest* | 00:00 |
| belgarath_ | Zappza Yep, they work the same! | 00:01 |
| belgarath_ | Zappza: Xubuntu rules... :) | 00:01 |
| Zappza | So the only difference is that xubuntu uses xfce instead of gnome? All the features are the same? | 00:02 |
| xxubuxx | yes, but everything looks normal, except maybe the string in answer to "connect" in the advanced options, which is \d\c, but the lines of explanations say it should normally be void | 00:02 |
| belgarath_ | Zappza Yes! | 00:03 |
| Zappza | Awesome :) | 00:04 |
| Zappza | One more question; I have already configured several boot-cds for the ISOlinux bootloader, is it a problem to just use the same options in kernel and append in the GRUB bootloader which ubuntu uses? | 00:05 |
| Zappza | I am planning to install xubuntu on the usb stick, and have options for booting some other live CD's in the same bootloader. | 00:05 |
| Zappza | Sorry if some answers are a bit stupid, this is one of my first experiences with Linux :P | 00:06 |
| belgarath_ | xxubuxx Some modems need special AT-commands to work properly.... for example US Robotics (my own experience) !?! | 00:07 |
| xxubuxx | i used a Trust modem, i don't know about the AT init string. but that wouldn't explain the first connection being LONG and then the next just hanging? | 00:08 |
| belgarath_ | xxubuxx Have you tried to decrease your cennection speed? if a lower connection speed works maybe you should try to find AT for your modem? Just a thought. | 00:13 |
| xxubuxx | i just lowered the speed to 57600, i'll tell you in a few minutes :) also, i replaced the \d\c with nothing | 00:14 |
| belgarath_ | xxubuxx good luck! | 00:14 |
| xxubuxx | thanks :) | 00:17 |
| xxubuxx | :( | 00:18 |
| xxubuxx | no luck | 00:18 |
| xxubuxx | what did you say about lock-files? | 00:19 |
| xxubuxx | belgarath_: ^^ | 00:19 |
| belgarath_ | xxubuxx I not 100% sure about Xubuntu but when I used ppp the ppp-connection always created a lock-file in /tmp and sometimes I had to remove these files by hand to get the ppp to work again | 00:21 |
| xxubuxx | i'll check, thanks :) | 00:22 |
| belgarath_ | xxubuxx One curious question !?! Why are you still using modem? | 00:23 |
| xxubuxx | it's a eee pc i'm using because my main machine died and i'm waiting for parts to arrive | 00:24 |
| xxubuxx | err... where is /temp? :) | 00:25 |
| zoredache_ | /temp???? or /tmp | 00:26 |
| xxubuxx | oops, /tmp, yes, sorry | 00:26 |
| belgarath_ | xxubuxx ok! :) | 00:26 |
| xxubuxx | i'm a windows user, so i'm having trouble finding stuff in the hard drive with xubuntu | 00:27 |
| belgarath_ | xxubuxx dont forget to show hidden files as well! (Ctrl+h) | 00:27 |
| xxubuxx | i have, but i still see no /tmp | 00:27 |
| xxubuxx | ah, found it | 00:28 |
| belgarath_ | xxubuxx ok | 00:28 |
| xxubuxx | belgarath_: what should i look for? | 00:28 |
| belgarath_ | xxubuxx i am not sure. but hey I can try it out on my eeepc wait a moment!!! | 00:30 |
| xxubuxx | there is a "ior" file in "lock" in gconfd-my_user_name | 00:30 |
| xxubuxx | thanks for being so helpful :) | 00:31 |
| belgarath_ | xxubuxx dont say hey to early, we have not solved anything yet! :) | 00:34 |
| xxubuxx | yes, but still ;-) | 00:34 |
| belgarath_ | xxubuxx :) | 00:35 |
| xxubuxx | is there a way to show the date of files in long format instead of just "today"? | 00:37 |
| belgarath_ | xxubuxx in thunar Ctrl+2 | 00:41 |
| belgarath_ | xxubuxx = detail view in explorer | 00:41 |
| xxubuxx | hmmm | 00:42 |
| xxubuxx | well, i can't get the date in 2008-10-10, but i can live with that i guess | 00:43 |
| belgarath_ | xxubuxx i dont think you have problem with the lock file because you get online, right !?! | 00:44 |
| xxubuxx | i do... for 5 or 6 minutes, even though i'm doing NOTHING | 00:45 |
| belgarath_ | xxubuxx ok then I am 100% sure you dont have a problem with a lock-file | 00:46 |
| xxubuxx | maybe i could paste my pppd config file somewhere so that it can be screened by experts? if only i knew how to find it | 00:46 |
| belgarath_ | xxubuxx yeah.. good idea... | 00:46 |
| * xxubuxx needs guidance to do that :( | 00:47 | |
| belgarath_ | xxubuxx ok. wait I have to find it first! :) | 00:48 |
| xxubuxx | hihihihi | 00:48 |
| belgarath_ | xxubuxx I believe it should be in /etc/ppp | 00:49 |
| * xxubuxx looks | 00:49 | |
| belgarath_ | xxubuxx I dont think I can help you more.... try to find a AT INIT command for your modem and if you send files to gurus dont send pap-secrets without edit because it stores your user/pass in cleartext. Good luck! | 00:54 |
| xxubuxx | thanks for everything, belgarath_ :) | 00:56 |
| belgarath_ | xxubuxx nice chatting with you... bye! | 00:56 |
| xxubuxx | http://pastebin.mozilla.org/548632 this is my ppp config file | 00:58 |
| xxubuxx | if anyone feels like taking a look | 00:59 |
| spasticteapot | Does anyone know if a Fujitsu B6110D will work with Ubuntu? | 04:02 |
| === tuna-fish is now known as tuna | ||
| threa1 | hi all, I | 05:58 |
| threa1 | m surre this is an often asked question, but internet searching hasn | 05:59 |
| threa1 | t helped me out. | 05:59 |
| threa1 | (blated apostrophee/enter) | 05:59 |
| threa1 | i can adjust the acceleration behaviour of the mouse in 'mouse settings' | 05:59 |
| threa1 | however, is there any way to adjust the linear sensitivity of the mouse? | 05:59 |
| homebrewcider | can anyone help please, have a friends computer fired up with a xubuntu live cd so we can get into his HDD, bloody windows and virus, need to access the data on there from my computer | 06:08 |
| threa1 | whree have ou got stuck? | 06:10 |
| homebrewcider | that's all I've done | 06:10 |
| homebrewcider | need to know how to access it, to copy data across | 06:10 |
| homebrewcider | it's connected to the home network | 06:11 |
| homebrewcider | as am I | 06:11 |
| threa1 | can you access your other computers (full) shared folder? | 06:14 |
| threa1 | if your liv disc can see your networked computer, you;re home | 06:14 |
| threa1 | just mount the hard drive you need to get stuff from and copy | 06:14 |
| homebrewcider | can't seem to access other computer, on the other computer I mounted the HDD okay, but can't seem to access it from this one | 06:23 |
| threa1 | to be honest, Im pretty new to XFCE | 06:27 |
| threa1 | more experienced with rescuing iwth kde | 06:27 |
| threa1 | and new to *buntu too | 06:28 |
| threa1 | so Im not sure exactly how to get samba(if that's what you | 06:28 |
| threa1 | re using) | 06:28 |
| threa1 | just right | 06:28 |
| threa1 | the other way to do it | 06:28 |
| threa1 | is copy to a USB stick or HDD using your live cd | 06:28 |
| homebrewcider | yeah, that's a last resort | 06:28 |
| homebrewcider | trying to do it right for starters | 06:29 |
| threa1 | hehe | 06:29 |
| threa1 | is your other computer linux or windows | 06:29 |
| threa1 | the working one? | 06:29 |
| threa1 | either way, if sharing is a problem between the two | 06:30 |
| threa1 | you can start an SSH server on the live CD compy | 06:30 |
| threa1 | then ssh in from your working one | 06:30 |
| threa1 | and ccopy files through that | 06:30 |
| threa1 | if you | 06:30 |
| threa1 | you're un windows, winscp is pretty easy | 06:30 |
| threa1 | filemanager and ssh client in one | 06:31 |
| threa1 | (sorry about the typos, am new to this eee keyboard) | 06:31 |
| homebrewcider | my comp-good one linux, other-trashed windows running live cd | 06:32 |
| threa1 | ok | 06:37 |
| threa1 | also to be honest, i only have one linux box | 06:37 |
| threa1 | so i | 06:37 |
| threa1 | ve never had to share linux to linux so far | 06:37 |
| threa1 | (but will change now :D) | 06:37 |
| threa1 | but what do you think of the ssh option? | 06:37 |
| knome | ssh is overkill in LAN shares | 06:40 |
| knome | you'll almost never need secure transfers | 06:40 |
| knome | and ecnrypting takes bandwidth = slower speeds | 06:41 |
| homebrewcider | so any advice knome? | 06:41 |
| threa1 | knome: correct | 06:41 |
| threa1 | I | 06:41 |
| threa1 | m just more familiar with ssh :$ | 06:41 |
| threa1 | in any case | 06:42 |
| threa1 | new kernel time | 06:42 |
| threa1 | see you gyus round | 06:42 |
| homebrewcider | any ideas? | 06:45 |
| knome | homebrewcider, hmm. | 06:46 |
| knome | can you wait a sec | 06:47 |
| homebrewcider | ok | 06:47 |
| knome | !samba | 06:51 |
| ubottu | Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. Also see https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/212098 | 06:51 |
| knome | you have read that? | 06:51 |
| knome | homebrewcider, | 06:52 |
| homebrewcider | checking | 06:53 |
| homebrewcider | other computer is a windows computer but runninga linux live cd atm | 06:54 |
| homebrewcider | that is the dilemna | 06:54 |
| knome | so do you need temporary or permanent solution? | 06:55 |
| knome | yes, samba is windows file sharing on a linux computer | 06:55 |
| homebrewcider | temp | 06:55 |
| knome | well i'd suggest a usb stick then, if you have one | 06:56 |
| homebrewcider | just to get the files off to copy and burn, then nuke the other computer | 06:56 |
| homebrewcider | gonna take ages via usb | 06:56 |
| knome | how much? | 06:56 |
| homebrewcider | would prefer to access via network and drag over | 06:56 |
| knome | how much data do you have? | 06:56 |
| homebrewcider | 30gig + | 06:57 |
| knome | k... | 06:57 |
| homebrewcider | photos, docs etc | 06:57 |
| knome | and what is actually the problem, can't you get samba installed or...? | 07:00 |
| homebrewcider | how do I install it on the live cd computer? | 07:03 |
| knome | normally? | 07:06 |
| homebrewcider | sudo apt-get? | 07:07 |
| knome | for example | 07:08 |
| homebrewcider | says already newest version | 07:09 |
| knome | then you have it | 07:09 |
| homebrewcider | but running command samba does nothing | 07:10 |
| knome | try applications -> system -> shared folders | 07:10 |
| homebrewcider | ok, folder is "shared" now | 07:12 |
| homebrewcider | can I mount it now | 07:15 |
| yinoneh | hi, just installed xubuntu-desktop, but it stuck on log-in. any ideas how to debug it ? thanks ! | 07:22 |
| Travelerxxx | Hallelujja testverek | 07:23 |
| jean-louis | each time I boot on xubuntu I have to write compiz & to have windows borders | 10:57 |
| jean-louis | how to solve this problem ? | 10:58 |
| TheSheep | !compiz | 10:58 |
| ubottu | Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion | 10:58 |
| jean-louis_ | i can't synchronise the time, I choose a server but it doesn't work | 11:15 |
| jean-louis_ | i can't synchronise the time, I choose a server but it doesn't work | 11:20 |
| === ablomen_ is now known as ablomen | ||
| yinoneh | hi, just installed xubuntu-desktop, but it stuck on log-in. any ideas how to debug/solve it ? thanks ! | 12:13 |
| cody-somerville | yinoneh, how exactly is it stuck? | 12:41 |
| yinoneh | cody-somerville: upon hitting the 'Enter' on login, I see an empty screen | 12:49 |
| cody-somerville | yinoneh, At the login screen, click "sessions" | 12:50 |
| cody-somerville | and then select xfce4 | 12:50 |
| cody-somerville | and then click oaky | 12:50 |
| cody-somerville | then login (make sure to click make xfce4 the default) | 12:50 |
| cody-somerville | and it should work | 12:50 |
| yinoneh | let me test (will logout gnome). Thanks | 12:50 |
| homebrewcider | anybody used lanshark? | 14:06 |
| TeXnicer | hm, the developer? | 14:06 |
| homebrewcider | file sharing program | 14:06 |
| TheSheep | !anyone | 14:06 |
| ubottu | A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? | 14:06 |
| homebrewcider | anyone have any idea on how to use it, I can browse the folder I want to download from on the other computer, but when I click "download to" and click on a location, it says, "download complete" but it ain't where I wanted it | 14:08 |
| === coldhak is now known as Pete_I | ||
| === Pete_I is now known as coldhak | ||
| sunsetloungejc | who can help me with a broken system? | 15:25 |
| sunsetloungejc | simple question...if I reinstall from the "Recover" function on the CD, will I lose my data files? | 15:26 |
| sunsetloungejc | anybody home? | 15:34 |
| coldhak | if you're removing the partition or some such, yes | 15:36 |
| coldhak | should be able to reinstall just fine as long as you don't mess with your data partition. best back it up to be safe though | 15:36 |
| coldhak | if your data files are on the same partition as everything else, then yes, you'll lose it when you reinstall | 15:38 |
| sunsetloungejc | ok, quick ?....i've been tols that if I "sudo rm /home/username/.session" and rebbot, that gthis will fix the problem....correct? | 15:40 |
| sunsetloungejc | anybody here? | 16:17 |
| vinnl | !ask | 16:18 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-) | 16:18 |
| vinnl | Yep :) | 16:18 |
| sunsetloungejc | .i removed /.xsession*, but that did not fix the problem. I still get same message: /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup... Setting IM through im-switch for locale=en_US. Start IM through /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/all_ALL linked to /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/default. mkdtemp: private socket dir: Permission Denied. | 16:18 |
| vinnl | When do you get that? | 16:19 |
| sunsetloungejc | on boot-up, after splash screen | 16:19 |
| TheSheep | let me guess, you removed writing rights to the /tmp directory? | 16:20 |
| sunsetloungejc | well, not sure. "trying" to get Apache/mysql/Joomla installed...so probably | 16:20 |
| TheSheep | sunsetloungejc: what does 'ls -ald /tmp' say? | 16:21 |
| sunsetloungejc | 1 sec | 16:21 |
| sunsetloungejc | drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2008-10-7 | 16:23 |
| jean-louis | hi | 16:24 |
| Ahtenus | How can I see shared folders in a windows network? | 16:26 |
| sunsetloungejc | Sheep, any hope for me? | 16:29 |
| favro | sunsetloungejc: I get - drwxrwxrwt 7 root root 4096 2008-10-08 01:26 /tmp - so you need to add rights back for group and others | 16:30 |
| TheSheep | sunsetloungejc: sudo chmod +t /tmp | 16:30 |
| TheSheep | sunsetloungejc: should help | 16:30 |
| sunsetloungejc | u RAWK!!! | 16:30 |
| TheSheep | and maybe sudo chmod a+rwx /tmp | 16:30 |
| TheSheep | but that +t is important | 16:30 |
| sunsetloungejc | 'k | 16:31 |
| sunsetloungejc | now reboot? | 16:31 |
| favro | a login should work | 16:32 |
| sunsetloungejc | :-X | 16:32 |
| sunsetloungejc | Whew! I can live another day! (saved our daughter's pix) | 16:34 |
| sunsetloungejc | THANX!! THANX!! THANX!! THANX!! THANX!! | 16:34 |
| jean-louis | it there an easy way to add an application which is in a sub-menu on the desk bar ? | 16:35 |
| jean-louis | it's doesn't look possible to just drag and drop the icon of an application | 16:35 |
| sunsetloungejc | one more thing....(should be even simpler.... | 16:36 |
| sunsetloungejc | I mistakenly unzipped some files to the /home/user folder. and I can't remove them | 16:36 |
| TheSheep | sunsetloungejc: run thunar with 'gksu thunar' | 16:39 |
| sunsetloungejc | ok | 16:40 |
| sunsetloungejc | so i can now remove them? | 16:40 |
| sunsetloungejc | u ARE the Xubuntu Guru! :-D forgive my newbie-ness | 16:43 |
| TheSheep | sunsetloungejc: careful with that axe, Eugene | 16:45 |
| Wrinkliez | is there any application that will uninstall any files or packages that came with a file? it seems that whenever i do basic removal in add/remove, it doesn't clear all the files it installed | 16:45 |
| sunsetloungejc | Sheep...yes, sir. Absoultely, sir. No excuses, sir. | 16:47 |
| sbarg | Wrinkliez: if you're OK with the command line, try "apt-get autoremove". From the apt-get man page... "autoremove is used to remove packages that were automatically installed to satisfy dependencies for some package and that are no more needed. | 16:49 |
| favro | I've found sudo apt-get --purge package works the best | 16:52 |
| Wrinkliez | o okay | 17:02 |
| Wrinkliez | thanks sbarg | 17:02 |
| Wrinkliez | and favro :) | 17:02 |
| jean-louis | it worked perfect, thanks a lot | 18:17 |
| Ahtenus | So i want to connect my laptop with ati card to my tv via S-video how do i do that? | 19:35 |
| Ahtenus | Too bad no one here :( | 19:44 |
| bytor4232 | Ahtenus: first you need the right cable. | 19:44 |
| bytor4232 | Ahtenus: Then you can use xrandr to span your desktop onto the tv card. | 19:44 |
| bytor4232 | Ahtenus: Or you can cold-boot your laptop with the cable plugged in and it should show up on your TV. | 19:44 |
| bytor4232 | Ahtenus: At least thats how it works for me. | 19:44 |
| Ahtenus | ok I'll try rebooting.. | 19:45 |
| bytor4232 | Darnit | 19:46 |
| bytor4232 | I said cold boot. A warm reboot won't cut it in most cases. | 19:46 |
| bytor4232 | Power off then back on. | 19:46 |
| cruzer | everytime i put in a cd (xubuntu/ubuntu/arch) it will go into the setup but it will either say that there is an error with the disk,"nobody cares", or just freeze | 20:21 |
| cruzer | ah | 20:22 |
| cruzer | anyone ever had a problem like this | 20:22 |
| belgarath_ | cruzer: Are you trying to boot xubuntu from a cd? | 20:25 |
| cruzer | im trying to use the alternative install | 20:25 |
| cruzer | xubuntu says error cd | 20:25 |
| cruzer | i burned it a few times | 20:26 |
| cruzer | slow | 20:26 |
| cruzer | on different cd's | 20:26 |
| knome | does other cds work well? | 20:26 |
| knome | (with the same drive) | 20:26 |
| belgarath_ | ok.. and you are sure that you have a working cd/dvd-player !? | 20:26 |
| cruzer | well | 20:27 |
| cruzer | i was able to use the windows xp installer | 20:27 |
| cruzer | and install xp on it | 20:27 |
| cruzer | with a cd | 20:27 |
| belgarath_ | ok... sounds weird. and your cdrom is a normal ide-drive ? | 20:28 |
| cruzer | well, its a laptop | 20:29 |
| cruzer | so i dont quite no | 20:29 |
| cruzer | *know | 20:29 |
| belgarath_ | hm... this is a tricky one.... maybe try to disable/enable dma in bios. can you boot on usb? maybe you should try to put xubuntu on a usb-stick and install from that. | 20:33 |
| cruzer | yeah i was thinking about that | 20:33 |
| cruzer | would www.pendrivelinux.com be a good place to start? | 20:33 |
| bytor4232 | I still think its a little non-intuitive to add a blank launcher, and have to fill it in manually or with appfinder. | 20:37 |
| bytor4232 | er | 20:37 |
| bytor4232 | sorry | 20:37 |
| bytor4232 | wrong channel. | 20:37 |
| thinkmassive_ | cruzer, did you check the md5sum of the iso? | 20:49 |
| thinkmassive_ | maybe the download just got corrupted | 20:50 |
| cruzer | 4 in a row? | 20:51 |
| cruzer | oh wait | 20:54 |
| cruzer | how awesome is that | 20:54 |
| cruzer | xubuntu has wubi | 20:55 |
| cruzer | ill installfrom windows | 20:55 |
| nnull | im trying to use vino, do i need to run a command after i use vino-preferences to start the server or? | 21:06 |
| centaur5 | It appears that Xubuntu ins't much lighter than Ubuntu. Is there something else that can be done or would I need a different distro for 450 mhz and 128 ram? | 21:20 |
| Genelyk | ram very slow | 21:25 |
| Genelyk | test fluxbuntu :) | 21:25 |
| Odd-rationale | centaur5: or try puppylinux... | 21:25 |
| centaur5 | Thanks, I have a bunch of old machines to fix up and donate and Xubuntu still doesn't run so well. | 21:26 |
| centaur5 | Just out of curiosity. I thought Xubuntu was the answer to 98 being discontinued. Since it still requires basically as much RAM as Ubuntu what do you gain with Xubuntu? | 21:28 |
| TheSheep | it runs faster with that ram | 21:29 |
| TheSheep | plus it uses xfce, which is preferred by many people | 21:29 |
| TheSheep | just because it's xfce | 21:29 |
| Genelyk | xubuntu is fasted with 256 ram | 21:30 |
| zoredache | I don't know, it seemes faster with 4GB :p | 21:30 |
| centaur5 | Okay, I guess I'll continue looking into Fluxbuntu then cause it still takes so long to even browse the web. | 21:30 |
| Genelyk | for 128 ram is fluxbox :) , | 21:30 |
| centaur5 | Do you think I can still network install Fluxbuntu and does it still use Ubuntu mirrors? | 21:32 |
| Genelyk | mmm | 21:33 |
| Genelyk | or test antixmepis 7,5, is based in debian and attach synaptic | 21:35 |
| centaur5 | Hmm...I don't think people would understand how fluxbox works looking at screenshots. | 21:37 |
| zoredache | you might get better answers about fluxbuntu on #fluxbuntu | 21:37 |
| centaur5 | Thanks for your help. | 21:38 |
| zoredache | you could also look at jwm, or fvwm | 21:38 |
| floating | my full screen on youtube and others is not really a full screen | 21:58 |
| floating | the actual window with picture is almost smaller than default youtube pic, and the sides are just filled with white color | 21:58 |
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