[00:00] xxubuxx have you tried to run pppconfig? [00:00] I want to run Ubuntu from my USB stick, however it isn't big enough for it to install. Therefore I thought about xubuntu, The only question I have, is wether the Update Manager is the same in xubuntu as in Ubuntu? [00:00] And what are really the differences between the two versions? [00:00] I really miss a comparison table to be hones [00:00] honest* [00:01] Zappza Yep, they work the same! [00:01] Zappza: Xubuntu rules... :) [00:02] So the only difference is that xubuntu uses xfce instead of gnome? All the features are the same? [00:02] yes, but everything looks normal, except maybe the string in answer to "connect" in the advanced options, which is \d\c, but the lines of explanations say it should normally be void [00:03] Zappza Yes! [00:04] Awesome :) [00:05] One more question; I have already configured several boot-cds for the ISOlinux bootloader, is it a problem to just use the same options in kernel and append in the GRUB bootloader which ubuntu uses? [00:05] I am planning to install xubuntu on the usb stick, and have options for booting some other live CD's in the same bootloader. [00:06] Sorry if some answers are a bit stupid, this is one of my first experiences with Linux :P [00:07] xxubuxx Some modems need special AT-commands to work properly.... for example US Robotics (my own experience) !?! [00:08] i used a Trust modem, i don't know about the AT init string. but that wouldn't explain the first connection being LONG and then the next just hanging? [00:13] xxubuxx Have you tried to decrease your cennection speed? if a lower connection speed works maybe you should try to find AT for your modem? Just a thought. [00:14] i just lowered the speed to 57600, i'll tell you in a few minutes :) also, i replaced the \d\c with nothing [00:14] xxubuxx good luck! [00:17] thanks :) [00:18] :( [00:18] no luck [00:19] what did you say about lock-files? [00:19] belgarath_: ^^ [00:21] xxubuxx I not 100% sure about Xubuntu but when I used ppp the ppp-connection always created a lock-file in /tmp and sometimes I had to remove these files by hand to get the ppp to work again [00:22] i'll check, thanks :) [00:23] xxubuxx One curious question !?! Why are you still using modem? [00:24] it's a eee pc i'm using because my main machine died and i'm waiting for parts to arrive [00:25] err... where is /temp? :) [00:26] /temp???? or /tmp [00:26] oops, /tmp, yes, sorry [00:26] xxubuxx ok! :) [00:27] i'm a windows user, so i'm having trouble finding stuff in the hard drive with xubuntu [00:27] xxubuxx dont forget to show hidden files as well! (Ctrl+h) [00:27] i have, but i still see no /tmp [00:28] ah, found it [00:28] xxubuxx ok [00:28] belgarath_: what should i look for? [00:30] xxubuxx i am not sure. but hey I can try it out on my eeepc wait a moment!!! [00:30] there is a "ior" file in "lock" in gconfd-my_user_name [00:31] thanks for being so helpful :) [00:34] xxubuxx dont say hey to early, we have not solved anything yet! :) [00:34] yes, but still ;-) [00:35] xxubuxx :) [00:37] is there a way to show the date of files in long format instead of just "today"? [00:41] xxubuxx in thunar Ctrl+2 [00:41] xxubuxx = detail view in explorer [00:42] hmmm [00:43] well, i can't get the date in 2008-10-10, but i can live with that i guess [00:44] xxubuxx i dont think you have problem with the lock file because you get online, right !?! [00:45] i do... for 5 or 6 minutes, even though i'm doing NOTHING [00:46] xxubuxx ok then I am 100% sure you dont have a problem with a lock-file [00:46] maybe i could paste my pppd config file somewhere so that it can be screened by experts? if only i knew how to find it [00:46] xxubuxx yeah.. good idea... [00:47] * xxubuxx needs guidance to do that :( [00:48] xxubuxx ok. wait I have to find it first! :) [00:48] hihihihi [00:49] xxubuxx I believe it should be in /etc/ppp [00:49] * xxubuxx looks [00:54] xxubuxx I dont think I can help you more.... try to find a AT INIT command for your modem and if you send files to gurus dont send pap-secrets without edit because it stores your user/pass in cleartext. Good luck! [00:56] thanks for everything, belgarath_ :) [00:56] xxubuxx nice chatting with you... bye! [00:58] http://pastebin.mozilla.org/548632 this is my ppp config file [00:59] if anyone feels like taking a look [04:02] Does anyone know if a Fujitsu B6110D will work with Ubuntu? === tuna-fish is now known as tuna [05:58] hi all, I [05:59] m surre this is an often asked question, but internet searching hasn [05:59] t helped me out. [05:59] (blated apostrophee/enter) [05:59] i can adjust the acceleration behaviour of the mouse in 'mouse settings' [05:59] however, is there any way to adjust the linear sensitivity of the mouse? [06:08] can anyone help please, have a friends computer fired up with a xubuntu live cd so we can get into his HDD, bloody windows and virus, need to access the data on there from my computer [06:10] whree have ou got stuck? [06:10] that's all I've done [06:10] need to know how to access it, to copy data across [06:11] it's connected to the home network [06:11] as am I [06:14] can you access your other computers (full) shared folder? [06:14] if your liv disc can see your networked computer, you;re home [06:14] just mount the hard drive you need to get stuff from and copy [06:23] can't seem to access other computer, on the other computer I mounted the HDD okay, but can't seem to access it from this one [06:27] to be honest, Im pretty new to XFCE [06:27] more experienced with rescuing iwth kde [06:28] and new to *buntu too [06:28] so Im not sure exactly how to get samba(if that's what you [06:28] re using) [06:28] just right [06:28] the other way to do it [06:28] is copy to a USB stick or HDD using your live cd [06:28] yeah, that's a last resort [06:29] trying to do it right for starters [06:29] hehe [06:29] is your other computer linux or windows [06:29] the working one? [06:30] either way, if sharing is a problem between the two [06:30] you can start an SSH server on the live CD compy [06:30] then ssh in from your working one [06:30] and ccopy files through that [06:30] if you [06:30] you're un windows, winscp is pretty easy [06:31] filemanager and ssh client in one [06:31] (sorry about the typos, am new to this eee keyboard) [06:32] my comp-good one linux, other-trashed windows running live cd [06:37] ok [06:37] also to be honest, i only have one linux box [06:37] so i [06:37] ve never had to share linux to linux so far [06:37] (but will change now :D) [06:37] but what do you think of the ssh option? [06:40] ssh is overkill in LAN shares [06:40] you'll almost never need secure transfers [06:41] and ecnrypting takes bandwidth = slower speeds [06:41] so any advice knome? [06:41] knome: correct [06:41] I [06:41] m just more familiar with ssh :$ [06:42] in any case [06:42] new kernel time [06:42] see you gyus round [06:45] any ideas? [06:46] homebrewcider, hmm. [06:47] can you wait a sec [06:47] ok [06:51] !samba [06:51] Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. Also see https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/212098 [06:51] you have read that? [06:52] homebrewcider, [06:53] checking [06:54] other computer is a windows computer but runninga linux live cd atm [06:54] that is the dilemna [06:55] so do you need temporary or permanent solution? [06:55] yes, samba is windows file sharing on a linux computer [06:55] temp [06:56] well i'd suggest a usb stick then, if you have one [06:56] just to get the files off to copy and burn, then nuke the other computer [06:56] gonna take ages via usb [06:56] how much? [06:56] would prefer to access via network and drag over [06:56] how much data do you have? [06:57] 30gig + [06:57] k... [06:57] photos, docs etc [07:00] and what is actually the problem, can't you get samba installed or...? [07:03] how do I install it on the live cd computer? [07:06] normally? [07:07] sudo apt-get? [07:08] for example [07:09] says already newest version [07:09] then you have it [07:10] but running command samba does nothing [07:10] try applications -> system -> shared folders [07:12] ok, folder is "shared" now [07:15] can I mount it now [07:22] hi, just installed xubuntu-desktop, but it stuck on log-in. any ideas how to debug it ? thanks ! [07:23] Hallelujja testverek [10:57] each time I boot on xubuntu I have to write compiz & to have windows borders [10:58] how to solve this problem ? [10:58] !compiz [10:58] Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion [11:15] i can't synchronise the time, I choose a server but it doesn't work [11:20] i can't synchronise the time, I choose a server but it doesn't work === ablomen_ is now known as ablomen [12:13] hi, just installed xubuntu-desktop, but it stuck on log-in. any ideas how to debug/solve it ? thanks ! [12:41] yinoneh, how exactly is it stuck? [12:49] cody-somerville: upon hitting the 'Enter' on login, I see an empty screen [12:50] yinoneh, At the login screen, click "sessions" [12:50] and then select xfce4 [12:50] and then click oaky [12:50] then login (make sure to click make xfce4 the default) [12:50] and it should work [12:50] let me test (will logout gnome). Thanks [14:06] anybody used lanshark? [14:06] hm, the developer? [14:06] file sharing program [14:06] !anyone [14:06] A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [14:08] anyone have any idea on how to use it, I can browse the folder I want to download from on the other computer, but when I click "download to" and click on a location, it says, "download complete" but it ain't where I wanted it === coldhak is now known as Pete_I === Pete_I is now known as coldhak [15:25] who can help me with a broken system? [15:26] simple question...if I reinstall from the "Recover" function on the CD, will I lose my data files? [15:34] anybody home? [15:36] if you're removing the partition or some such, yes [15:36] should be able to reinstall just fine as long as you don't mess with your data partition. best back it up to be safe though [15:38] if your data files are on the same partition as everything else, then yes, you'll lose it when you reinstall [15:40] ok, quick ?....i've been tols that if I "sudo rm /home/username/.session" and rebbot, that gthis will fix the problem....correct? [16:17] anybody here? [16:18] !ask [16:18] Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-) [16:18] Yep :) [16:18] .i removed /.xsession*, but that did not fix the problem. I still get same message: /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup... Setting IM through im-switch for locale=en_US. Start IM through /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/all_ALL linked to /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/default. mkdtemp: private socket dir: Permission Denied. [16:19] When do you get that? [16:19] on boot-up, after splash screen [16:20] let me guess, you removed writing rights to the /tmp directory? [16:20] well, not sure. "trying" to get Apache/mysql/Joomla installed...so probably [16:21] sunsetloungejc: what does 'ls -ald /tmp' say? [16:21] 1 sec [16:23] drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2008-10-7 [16:24] hi [16:26] How can I see shared folders in a windows network? [16:29] Sheep, any hope for me? [16:30] sunsetloungejc: I get - drwxrwxrwt 7 root root 4096 2008-10-08 01:26 /tmp - so you need to add rights back for group and others [16:30] sunsetloungejc: sudo chmod +t /tmp [16:30] sunsetloungejc: should help [16:30] u RAWK!!! [16:30] and maybe sudo chmod a+rwx /tmp [16:30] but that +t is important [16:31] 'k [16:31] now reboot? [16:32] a login should work [16:32] :-X [16:34] Whew! I can live another day! (saved our daughter's pix) [16:34] THANX!! THANX!! THANX!! THANX!! THANX!! [16:35] it there an easy way to add an application which is in a sub-menu on the desk bar ? [16:35] it's doesn't look possible to just drag and drop the icon of an application [16:36] one more thing....(should be even simpler.... [16:36] I mistakenly unzipped some files to the /home/user folder. and I can't remove them [16:39] sunsetloungejc: run thunar with 'gksu thunar' [16:40] ok [16:40] so i can now remove them? [16:43] u ARE the Xubuntu Guru! :-D forgive my newbie-ness [16:45] sunsetloungejc: careful with that axe, Eugene [16:45] is there any application that will uninstall any files or packages that came with a file? it seems that whenever i do basic removal in add/remove, it doesn't clear all the files it installed [16:47] Sheep...yes, sir. Absoultely, sir. No excuses, sir. [16:49] Wrinkliez: if you're OK with the command line, try "apt-get autoremove". From the apt-get man page... "autoremove is used to remove packages that were automatically installed to satisfy dependencies for some package and that are no more needed. [16:52] I've found sudo apt-get --purge package works the best [17:02] o okay [17:02] thanks sbarg [17:02] and favro :) [18:17] it worked perfect, thanks a lot [19:35] So i want to connect my laptop with ati card to my tv via S-video how do i do that? [19:44] Too bad no one here :( [19:44] Ahtenus: first you need the right cable. [19:44] Ahtenus: Then you can use xrandr to span your desktop onto the tv card. [19:44] Ahtenus: Or you can cold-boot your laptop with the cable plugged in and it should show up on your TV. [19:44] Ahtenus: At least thats how it works for me. [19:45] ok I'll try rebooting.. [19:46] Darnit [19:46] I said cold boot. A warm reboot won't cut it in most cases. [19:46] Power off then back on. [20:21] everytime i put in a cd (xubuntu/ubuntu/arch) it will go into the setup but it will either say that there is an error with the disk,"nobody cares", or just freeze [20:22] ah [20:22] anyone ever had a problem like this [20:25] cruzer: Are you trying to boot xubuntu from a cd? [20:25] im trying to use the alternative install [20:25] xubuntu says error cd [20:26] i burned it a few times [20:26] slow [20:26] on different cd's [20:26] does other cds work well? [20:26] (with the same drive) [20:26] ok.. and you are sure that you have a working cd/dvd-player !? [20:27] well [20:27] i was able to use the windows xp installer [20:27] and install xp on it [20:27] with a cd [20:28] ok... sounds weird. and your cdrom is a normal ide-drive ? [20:29] well, its a laptop [20:29] so i dont quite no [20:29] *know [20:33] hm... this is a tricky one.... maybe try to disable/enable dma in bios. can you boot on usb? maybe you should try to put xubuntu on a usb-stick and install from that. [20:33] yeah i was thinking about that [20:33] would www.pendrivelinux.com be a good place to start? [20:37] I still think its a little non-intuitive to add a blank launcher, and have to fill it in manually or with appfinder. [20:37] er [20:37] sorry [20:37] wrong channel. [20:49] cruzer, did you check the md5sum of the iso? [20:50] maybe the download just got corrupted [20:51] 4 in a row? [20:54] oh wait [20:54] how awesome is that [20:55] xubuntu has wubi [20:55] ill installfrom windows [21:06] im trying to use vino, do i need to run a command after i use vino-preferences to start the server or? [21:20] It appears that Xubuntu ins't much lighter than Ubuntu. Is there something else that can be done or would I need a different distro for 450 mhz and 128 ram? [21:25] ram very slow [21:25] test fluxbuntu :) [21:25] centaur5: or try puppylinux... [21:26] Thanks, I have a bunch of old machines to fix up and donate and Xubuntu still doesn't run so well. [21:28] Just out of curiosity. I thought Xubuntu was the answer to 98 being discontinued. Since it still requires basically as much RAM as Ubuntu what do you gain with Xubuntu? [21:29] it runs faster with that ram [21:29] plus it uses xfce, which is preferred by many people [21:29] just because it's xfce [21:30] xubuntu is fasted with 256 ram [21:30] I don't know, it seemes faster with 4GB :p [21:30] Okay, I guess I'll continue looking into Fluxbuntu then cause it still takes so long to even browse the web. [21:30] for 128 ram is fluxbox :) , [21:32] Do you think I can still network install Fluxbuntu and does it still use Ubuntu mirrors? [21:33] mmm [21:35] or test antixmepis 7,5, is based in debian and attach synaptic [21:37] Hmm...I don't think people would understand how fluxbox works looking at screenshots. [21:37] you might get better answers about fluxbuntu on #fluxbuntu [21:38] Thanks for your help. [21:38] you could also look at jwm, or fvwm [21:58] my full screen on youtube and others is not really a full screen [21:58] the actual window with picture is almost smaller than default youtube pic, and the sides are just filled with white color