| apachelogger | jtechidna: hehe, we were fiddeling with his wlan @ FOSDEM IIRC ;-) | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| jtechidna | it's nice to see Kubuntu get good press right on planet kde :) | 00:00 |
| apachelogger | yes, there is too few of that | 00:01 |
| * JontheEchidna got networking back | 00:46 | |
| * JontheEchidna uninstalls network manager now that he doesn't need it | 00:46 | |
| DaSkreech | Whoot! | 03:00 |
| DaSkreech | Grat apachelogger | 03:00 |
| DaSkreech | I just wanted to confirm that there is no migration plan for those on KDE4 now to Ibex? | 03:00 |
| ScottK-laptop | I think that puts it too strongly. | 03:02 |
| ScottK-laptop | But I don't know the details. | 03:02 |
| * DaSkreech speaks specifically of those users with apps in /usr/lib/kde4/ and settings in ~/.kde4 | 03:04 | |
| ScottK-laptop | The data doesn't get migrated. That's true, but I'd imagine that could be done manually after upgrade. | 03:05 |
| * DaSkreech is pretty sure that cp ~/.kde4 ~/.kde will screw up a lot of crap | 03:06 | |
| ScottK-laptop | I had some KDE4 stuff installed when I upgraded and the packages got replaced OK. | 03:06 |
| ScottK-laptop | Why? | 03:06 |
| DaSkreech | Well wouldn't it over write the data in ~/.kde ? | 03:07 |
| ScottK-laptop | I don't actually know, but the KDE3/KDE4 .kde dirs are generally forward compatible, so I doubt replacing KDE4 data with other KDE4 data would be problematic. | 03:07 |
| DaSkreech | It wouldn't have kde4 data in there | 03:08 |
| DaSkreech | it would be kde3 data from way back when that's all existed | 03:08 |
| JontheEchidna | if it's overwritten it's gone | 03:08 |
| DaSkreech | I know | 03:08 |
| DaSkreech | Which is why I was asking if there is no migration path? | 03:09 |
| ScottK-laptop | I see. | 03:10 |
| ScottK-laptop | I was thinking you wanted to migrate Hardy -> Intrepid and have KDE4 data come forward instead. | 03:10 |
| ScottK-laptop | Not sure how you would merge .kde and .kde4. | 03:11 |
| DaSkreech | Yeah | 03:11 |
| ScottK-laptop | So it looks like moving to bluez 4 changed the whole package structure. kdebluetooth now depends on a transitional package. | 03:13 |
| ScottK-laptop | Someone ought to look into that. | 03:13 |
| NCommander | ScottK, I'm involved in the bluez change, whats the issue | 04:17 |
| ScottK-laptop | First, kdebluetooth now depends on a transitional pacakge. That's not a good plan for the future. | 04:40 |
| ScottK-laptop | So what should it dependon instead? | 04:40 |
| ScottK-laptop | NCommander: ^^ | 04:40 |
| ScottK-laptop | As was a bit suprised to find the bluez-gstreamer package in my default Kubuntu install, but I | 04:41 |
| ScottK-laptop | I've got libgstreamer installed anyway for other reasons, so it's not as far out as I initially thought. | 04:42 |
| ScottK-laptop | NCommander: Do you know if any KDE people tested it? | 04:42 |
| NCommander | Hrm | 04:44 |
| NCommander | I didn't test it in KDE ... | 04:45 |
| NCommander | I don't know if anyone did | 04:45 |
| ScottK-laptop | superm1 asked me to, but I didn't get to it. | 04:45 |
| NCommander | Whats the transitional package kdebluetooth is depending on? | 04:47 |
| ScottK-laptop | bluez-utils | 04:49 |
| NCommander | ScottK, I think you need to depend on package Bluetooth now | 04:49 |
| NCommander | Checking | 04:49 |
| ScottK-laptop | Back in a few. | 04:50 |
| ScottK-laptop | NCommander: Back. | 04:57 |
| NCommander | wb | 04:57 |
| ScottK-laptop | NCommander: Did you see my ping about openexr on sparc a coupld of days ago? | 05:03 |
| NCommander | oh yeah, that slipped my mind | 05:03 |
| NCommander | Crap | 05:03 |
| NCommander | The only machine I can build for sparc is spooky (REVU), so I'm not so sure I can work on that one | 05:04 |
| ScottK-laptop | Err or was it hppa? | 05:04 |
| NCommander | sparc | 05:04 |
| ScottK-laptop | NCommander: That one was hppa: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/openexr/1.6.1-3 | 05:08 |
| ScottK-laptop | I did ping you about a sparc one. | 05:08 |
| * NCommander notes something about you hating me | 05:09 | |
| ScottK-laptop | Yeah, but I hate everybody. At least you're useful. | 05:10 |
| ScottK-laptop | OK, not hate, but I am in a really foul mood at the moment. | 05:10 |
| * Hobbsee echoes hate back at ScottK-laptop just to make him feel better | 05:12 | |
| ScottK-laptop | NCommander: I give you Bug #279983 | 05:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 279983 in kdebluetooth "kblueplugd crashed with DBusException in call_blocking()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/279983 | 05:15 |
| * NCommander dunks his bluetooth dongle in soda | 05:16 | |
| NCommander | Sorry, I don't have the necessary hardware | 05:16 |
| rgreening | :P | 05:17 |
| rgreening | ~order for NCommander blueberry pie | 05:18 |
| rgreening | dang... no pie | 05:18 |
| NCommander | I love blueberries! | 05:18 |
| NCommander | ;.; | 05:18 |
| NCommander | ARGH | 05:18 |
| rgreening | and blue teeth | 05:18 |
| rgreening | tooth | 05:18 |
| rgreening | :) | 05:18 |
| ScottK-laptop | NCommander: rebuilding doesn't seem to help. | 05:30 |
| DaSkreech | If I'm remastering a Cd and want a personal script installed as a command I'll have to make a Deb? | 05:32 |
| ScottK-laptop | Any kdebluetooth ninjas in the audience ... | 05:35 |
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| yuriy | anybody using fglrx on intrepid? | 05:57 |
| DaSkreech | I might be | 06:33 |
| ScottK-laptop | Riddell: Bug #279983 looks to be a strong sign (according to superm1) that kdebluetooth needs updating to work with the new bluetooth stack uploaded today. | 06:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 279983 in kdebluetooth "kblueplugd crashed with DBusException in call_blocking()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/279983 | 06:37 |
| dbglt | is anyone working on fixing up update-notifier-kde? | 07:33 |
| DaSkreech | mornfall: ping | 07:41 |
| DaSkreech | Drat | 07:41 |
| jussi01 | Morning all! | 08:16 |
| Arby | morning | 08:16 |
| jussi01 | An I just noticed /topic, so Congrats apachelogger! | 08:17 |
| dbglt | hrmm, maybe this channel is better: odd. any reason why python-kde4-doc doesn't include the binary pykdedocs anymore? | 08:35 |
| dbglt | apparently not part of the latest build | 08:39 |
| dbglt | weird | 08:39 |
| stdin | kde4bindings-4.1.2$ find . -type f -name "pykdedocs*" | 09:00 |
| stdin | ./python/pykde4/docs/html/pykdedocs.html | 09:00 |
| stdin | dbglt: doesn't look like it even in the source package | 09:00 |
| dbglt | stdin: yeah, just checked svn as well | 09:01 |
| dbglt | stdin: odd, and kind of annoying | 09:01 |
| dbglt | but oh well! :) | 09:01 |
| thekorn | hi, short question, what's the right target for bug reports about konqueror, kdebase? | 09:40 |
| Hobbsee | thekorn: yes, iirc. | 11:57 |
| apachelogger | jussi01: thx :) | 11:58 |
| smarter | yeah https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267705 :) | 12:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 267705 in facile "Main Inclusion Request: facile" [Undecided,Fix released] | 12:17 |
| Riddell | smarter: what's that needed for? | 12:22 |
| smarter | Kalzium equation solver | 12:22 |
| smarter | I'm creating a debdiff right now | 12:22 |
| smarter | Riddell: if you could please upload that :) http://smarter.free.fr/pkg/kdeedu_4.1.2-0ubuntu1_to_ubuntu2.debdiff | 12:28 |
| Riddell | smarter: that it? no new files needing adding to the packaging? | 12:31 |
| smarter | nop, cmake does the magic stuff | 12:31 |
| smarter | and everything is in the kalzium binary afaik | 12:31 |
| smarter | I could check | 12:31 |
| * smarter debuilds and debian/rules list-missing | 12:31 | |
| smarter | I already did when I hacked my own package because I wanted to use the equation solver, but rechecking can't be bad :) | 12:32 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: should I poke pitti about bug 267599 | 12:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 267599 in qca2-plugin-ossl "Main Inclusion Report for libqca2-plugin-ossl" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/267599 | 12:41 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: yes please | 12:42 |
| Riddell | ScottK-laptop: so superm1 uploaded a new bluetooth stack after beta and then says its the fault of kdebluetooth for not being new enough? | 12:50 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: able to look at bluetooth? I know nothing about it | 12:50 |
| Riddell | https://launchpad.net/bugs/279983 | 12:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 279983 in kdebluetooth "kblueplugd crashed with DBusException in call_blocking()" [High,Confirmed] | 12:50 |
| smarter | Riddell: I just checked again, adding the build-dep is enough to make the eqsuation solver works :) | 13:07 |
| smarter | *equation | 13:07 |
| Riddell | thanks smarter | 13:07 |
| rgreening | Riddell: could this be a dbus issue? I've seen a lot of bug reports coming in from Python with "DBusException in call_blocking()"? | 13:08 |
| rgreening | coincidence? | 13:09 |
| smarter | Riddell: also, could you upload bespin -0ubuntu3? bzr branch lp:~kubuntu-members/bespin/ubuntu && bzr diff -r20..21 > bespin.debdiff | 13:09 |
| * smarter bbl | 13:10 | |
| smarter | see you later guys | 13:10 |
| rgreening | Riddell: Did you upload the qtjambi I sent? If not, hold off, I want to add a quick fix (bug 250002) | 13:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 250002 in qtjambi "wrong classpath is set in designer-qtjambi" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/250002 | 13:10 |
| Riddell | rgreening: I did | 13:16 |
| rgreening | Riddell: Ok, I' | 13:16 |
| rgreening | I'll send a new rev. to fix the afore meantioned bug. closes last qtjambi bug | 13:17 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: bug 279996 | 13:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 279996 in kde-l10n-ml "Wrong package description for kde-ml package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/279996 | 13:20 |
| JontheEchidna | The package desc still has a tiny bit of wa left in there :P | 13:20 |
| * apachelogger doesn't think that is uploadworthy | 13:21 | |
| apachelogger | Riddell: did you upload 4.1.2 l10n yet? | 13:21 |
| rgreening | Riddell: the Dbus Call_Blocking all are either dbus or python related. I wouldn't blame this (necessarily) on bluetooth. I just got an exception and it's for kbluetoothd (which is python based) and calls the dbus error | 13:22 |
| JontheEchidna | Jockey and guidance-power-manager have been getting similar DBus problems | 13:23 |
| rgreening | yep. either we have a dbus or pythnon prob (IMHO) | 13:24 |
| rgreening | s/pythnon /python | 13:24 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: latest l10n is 4.1.2 | 13:24 |
| apachelogger | well | 13:24 |
| apachelogger | if I get round to upload before intrepid... otherwise we are going to fix that for 4.1.3 | 13:25 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: yes | 13:25 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: I can upload a fix if you have a debdiff for that | 13:27 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: I don't have one yet, currently mucking around with -workspace | 13:28 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: what are you doing to -workspace? | 13:28 |
| Riddell | I hvae rendering errors today | 13:28 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: fixing libtaskmanager includes | 13:28 |
| JontheEchidna | which I sorta messed up with my tooltips patch | 13:31 |
| rgreening | Riddell: see bug 139154. I'll test out the patch comment and see if it fixes the dbus exception. | 13:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 139154 in kdebluetooth "kblueplugd crashed with DBusException in __new__()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139154 | 13:33 |
| rgreening | Riddell: it' | 13:34 |
| rgreening | is an old bug it seems... | 13:34 |
| seele | hmm.. ntpd isn't running by default? | 13:34 |
| seele | anyone running a beta install instead of upgrade? | 13:34 |
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| seele | hmm.. was kdesudo supposed to be fixed? | 13:36 |
| jussi01 | seele: I am (running a beta install) | 13:45 |
| seele | jussi01: is Set date and time automatically turned on for you in System Settings > Date & Time? | 13:46 |
| * jussi01 looks | 13:47 | |
| jussi01 | seele: no. | 13:47 |
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| seele | hmm.. do you think ntp should be turned on by default? most computers have a network connection, and even if it drops (such as with a laptop), it won't throw an error, it just waits until the connection comes back | 14:13 |
| Riddell | I'm sure we (used to) have ntp running by default, as a daemon not at the kde level | 14:14 |
| rgreening | ntpd is a good thing | 14:15 |
| Riddell | seele: yep, ntp should run when a network connection is made | 14:29 |
| seele | Riddell: we can do it for Ibex? | 14:34 |
| Riddell | seele: we do, and always have | 14:35 |
| seele | ntp but not the kde daemon? | 14:37 |
| Riddell | right | 14:38 |
| Riddell | kde is the wrong level to have you time sync being done | 14:38 |
| seele | ok.. so how do we fix the problem of the option not being turned on in system settings? | 14:39 |
| seele | is it looking at the kde daemon instead of elsewhere? it's misleading if it is turned off but ntpd still updates time | 14:40 |
| Riddell | probably we should just remove that from the UI | 14:41 |
| seele | hum | 14:46 |
| nixternal | are we install pidgin by default? | 14:47 |
| nixternal | wow I can spoke this morning :) | 14:48 |
| seele | why would we have pidgin? | 14:48 |
| Riddell | nixternal: no | 14:48 |
| nixternal | ahh, it is probably left over from my gnome install | 14:48 |
| seele | is kopete borked? | 14:48 |
| nixternal | forgot i did that | 14:48 |
| nixternal | seele: it is for me | 14:48 |
| nixternal | I send people messages and it is in HTML markup | 14:48 |
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| Riddell | nixternal: can we test that? | 14:56 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I just added --dist-upgrade to update-manager-kde you'll be pleased to know | 14:56 |
| smarter | Riddell: I just noticed update-notifier-kde was not running, I started it and a systray popup said that I had "Apt Authentification Issue", it asked me to click on "Run this action now"(strange name for a button), but nothing happened when I clicked on it | 15:12 |
| smarter | and according to the command line, it's trying to run gksu | 15:13 |
| smarter | /bin/sh: gksu: not found | 15:13 |
| smarter | this line appears everytime I click on the button | 15:13 |
| Riddell | smarter: what's in /var/lib/update-notifier/user.d/ ? | 15:14 |
| smarter | apt-auth-failure.note firefox-3.0-restart-required fuse-utils-needs-users-added-to-fuse-group user-must-execute-asoundconf-set-default-card | 15:15 |
| smarter | in apt-auth-failure.not there is: | 15:15 |
| smarter | Command: gksu -- synaptic --non-interactive --update-at-startup --hide-main-window | 15:15 |
| Riddell | smarter: I'm poking mvo on #ubuntu-devel | 15:30 |
| * smarter looks :) | 15:30 | |
| * jussi01 sighs that flash is so horrible in intrepid. :( | 15:41 | |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I don't have update-manager-kde | 15:42 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: you're missing ouy | 15:42 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: you're missing out | 15:42 |
| Riddell | update-notifier-kde I mean | 15:43 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: update-notifier-kde: Unknown option 'dist-upgrade'. | 15:43 |
| Riddell | you'll need the version that probably isn't in the archives yet | 15:44 |
| apachelogger | *nod* | 15:44 |
| * apachelogger prepares workspace for upload | 15:45 | |
| Riddell | apachelogger: workspace? I think JontheEchidna is doing stuff to that | 15:45 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: ye got my patch? | 15:45 |
| apachelogger | yus | 15:45 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: I hope you didn't forget to unbreak something :P | 15:45 |
| JontheEchidna | kool | 15:45 |
| Riddell | toscalix! | 15:46 |
| JontheEchidna | Oh, crap | 15:49 |
| JontheEchidna | Lancelot uses the Taskmanager lib | 15:49 |
| JontheEchidna | meaning the toolitps patch broke it | 15:50 |
| apachelogger | that explains a lot | 15:51 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: time to remind you of apachelogger's primary rule of packaging | 15:51 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah yeah... | 15:51 |
| JontheEchidna | patches are evil (tm) | 15:51 |
| JontheEchidna | just means more work for me, lol | 15:54 |
| smarter | JontheEchidna: ooh, that's why lancelot was not working anymore | 15:54 |
| apachelogger | IMHO you should grab all the plasma related stuff and grep for other stuff that links against tasmanager | 15:54 |
| * smarter was sure this patch was going to causes some problems :P | 15:55 | |
| apachelogger | well, it's a patch :P | 15:55 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: first line of the debdiff exceeds 80 chars | 15:58 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: did you take the changes for a testdrive? | 15:59 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: tooltips still work | 16:03 |
| apachelogger | k | 16:03 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Apparently asking for testing with KDE is enough. It's not an issue if it's not actually done (bluetooth). | 16:07 |
| JontheEchidna | Crap, Lancelot's taskmanager code is the same in trunk as it is in 4.1.... | 16:11 |
| smarter | JontheEchidna: maybe it needs a rebuild? | 16:14 |
| JontheEchidna | maybe | 16:14 |
| kde4 | #digikam | 16:15 |
| JontheEchidna | That would cause binary incompatibility, come to think of it | 16:15 |
| apachelogger | kde4: eh? | 16:23 |
| apachelogger | is bug 280099 actually a bug? | 16:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 280099 in kdebase-workspace "Clock and Window switcher is huge on panel resize" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/280099 | 16:24 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: I didn't fix it all the way | 16:27 |
| JontheEchidna | Lancelot fails to build here \o/ | 16:27 |
| * Riddell adds libqca2-plugin-ossl to seeds | 16:27 | |
| apachelogger | Riddell: please add xterm as well | 16:28 |
| Riddell | why? | 16:28 |
| apachelogger | needed for KDM's failsafe | 16:28 |
| apachelogger | I actually think we should just add it as dep for kubuntu-desktop as all the other -desktop's depend on it as well | 16:28 |
| Riddell | it was removed from the seeds because we have good terminal applications this millenium | 16:29 |
| Riddell | if kdm needs it, then kdm should depend on it | 16:29 |
| apachelogger | kdm recommends it | 16:29 |
| Riddell | sorted | 16:29 |
| apachelogger | hm | 16:29 |
| apachelogger | ok | 16:29 |
| * apachelogger won't fixes the bug report | 16:29 | |
| Riddell | is it really in the ubuntu.desktop seed? | 16:29 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: oh, or maybe not. I think it's fixed all the way | 16:30 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop | grep xterm | 16:30 |
| Riddell | hmm, so it is, I'm sure that was removed some releases ago | 16:30 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: maybe we should patch kdm to use konsole, I guess if kdelibs is broken KDM won't start anyway | 16:31 |
| Riddell | it should use konsole if xterm isn't around at least | 16:32 |
| * apachelogger looks for some existing alternatives | 16:33 | |
| apachelogger | or maybe write a shell script | 16:34 |
| JontheEchidna | Yay, lancelot works after a rebuild | 16:45 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/55316/ | 16:48 |
| JontheEchidna | can haz sponsor? | 16:48 |
| apachelogger | uploaded | 16:53 |
| apachelogger | workspace also uploaded | 16:53 |
| JontheEchidna | thinking about it | 16:53 |
| JontheEchidna | it does need workspace 0ubuntu6 to work | 16:53 |
| JontheEchidna | or else it'll ftbfs | 16:54 |
| apachelogger | I guess it will ftbfs then :P | 16:56 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: next time bump the build-dep | 16:56 |
| apachelogger | I think my desktop containment just exploded | 16:59 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: can you reproduce bug 280134 | 17:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 280134 in kdebase "konqueror does not respect the open externally called URL in new tab setting" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/280134 | 17:05 |
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| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: yes | 17:08 |
| apachelogger | weird, does work here | 17:08 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: what happens if you don't minimize the window? | 17:08 |
| JontheEchidna | still new window | 17:09 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: please make a snapshot of your konqueror config dialog | 17:10 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: you try launching it from kmail? | 17:10 |
| JontheEchidna | yes | 17:11 |
| JontheEchidna | oh | 17:11 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm, maybe that's why | 17:11 |
| * JontheEchidna missed a setting | 17:11 | |
| JontheEchidna | nope, still no good | 17:13 |
| apachelogger | screenshot | 17:13 |
| JontheEchidna | actually | 17:14 |
| JontheEchidna | it works, just not with the initial window | 17:14 |
| apachelogger | well | 17:14 |
| apachelogger | it doesn't claim so, does it? :P | 17:14 |
| JontheEchidna | I opened konq via kmenu | 17:14 |
| JontheEchidna | clicked a clickly link in kmail -> new window pops us | 17:15 |
| JontheEchidna | *up | 17:15 |
| JontheEchidna | clicked another link in kmail, new tab in new window shows up | 17:15 |
| apachelogger | m | 17:15 |
| apachelogger | hm | 17:15 |
| apachelogger | maybe mention that and forward the report to kde | 17:15 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: plz join #oxygen | 17:56 |
| * Riddell uploads adept to hardy-proposed with skip_intrepid patch | 18:04 | |
| Riddell | rgreening: uploaded update-notifier hanks | 18:38 |
| Riddell | thanks | 18:38 |
| rgreening | Riddell: np. one less to cause headaches :) and dup bugs and no update notifications... :) | 18:39 |
| rgreening | plus, it annoyed me. it was always crashed. hehe | 18:39 |
| rgreening | Riddell: I have an update for qtjambi coming too. | 18:40 |
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| Riddell | rgreening: qtjambi up | 19:11 |
| rgreening | Riddell: qtjambi fix is in progress. A couple of things to correct. ie. bug 250002. Also, there's a problem with the designer-qtjambi CLASSPATH. Working on that now. | 19:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 250002 in qtjambi "wrong classpath is set in designer-qtjambi" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/250002 | 19:12 |
| rgreening | Riddell: in qtjambi-examples-wrapper, we have java -cp /usr/share/java/qtjambi.jar:/usr/share/java/qtjambi-linux32-gcc.jar:/usr/share/java/qtjambi-examples.jar com.trolltech.launcher.Launcher. the linux32 would be a problem on 64 bit. So that needs to be corrected. | 19:14 |
| rgreening | how woudl I do that for the wrapper (allow 32 or 64)? | 19:14 |
| Riddell | it's a shell script, just check which file exists | 19:16 |
| Riddell | if [ -e /path/tolinux32 ]; ... | 19:16 |
| Riddell | something like that | 19:16 |
| rgreening | ah... good idea | 19:16 |
| rgreening | I was thinking on editing it preinstall via the packaging. | 19:17 |
| rgreening | but a global check would work just as well. | 19:17 |
| rgreening | ok, a new rev will be necessary to fix these extra problem I found... oh well... | 19:18 |
| rgreening | On 64 bit Linux, will uname -m show x86_64 always? | 19:41 |
| Riddell | no | 19:42 |
| rgreening | ok, wondering the "right" way to determine if the system is 64 or 32 | 19:43 |
| rgreening | think I found a good ex in jcontrol | 19:45 |
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| rgreening | Riddell: sent off final qtjambi fix. ver ubuntu3 should be built. ubuntu2 can die. | 20:30 |
| rgreening | Riddell: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3713 - SuSE k.n.m native for KDE4... close | 20:32 |
| yuriy | has kdebluetooth been tested with the new bluetooth stack? | 20:36 |
| ScottK | yuriy: Yes. Doesn't work. | 20:53 |
| yuriy | same here | 20:55 |
| yuriy | i just installed bluetooth-gnome, and I have to say this works nicer than kdebluetooth even when the latter does work | 20:55 |
| apachelogger | hm | 20:56 |
| apachelogger | revert bluetooth stack change? | 20:56 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: what to do with bug 220474 | 20:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 220474 in kdebase "kdesu hogs cpu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220474 | 20:56 |
| yuriy | apachelogger: hmm? | 20:56 |
| yuriy | libbluetooth has been upgraded to version 4 | 20:57 |
| apachelogger | when? | 20:57 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: we don't use kdesu anymore, right? | 20:57 |
| JontheEchidna | it shouldn't be causing problems in Intrepid | 20:57 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: well, I think one can still install kde without kdesudo | 20:57 |
| yuriy | apachelogger: a couple days ago. mario limonciello sent mail to (among others) kubuntu-devel | 20:58 |
| apachelogger | even if it's not in $PATH | 20:58 |
| apachelogger | yuriy: well, it breaks compatibility with kbluetooth obviously | 20:58 |
| ScottK | yuriy: Bug #279983 | 20:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 279983 in kdebluetooth "kblueplugd crashed with DBusException in call_blocking()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/279983 | 20:58 |
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| ScottK | apachelogger: Yesterday. | 20:58 |
| apachelogger | I suggest testing kbluetooth svn, if that exists. | 20:59 |
| apachelogger | otherwise I reverting the lib change would probably make a lot of sense | 20:59 |
| apachelogger | s/I/ | 21:00 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Tonio_ has done most of the bluetooth stuff. Hopefully he'll make an appearance and have some magic fix. | 21:02 |
| ScottK | Part of the rationale for going forward was the the old lib was pretty broken with the current kernel. | 21:02 |
| ScottK | I think reversion isn't going to happen. | 21:03 |
| apachelogger | hm | 21:03 |
| ScottK | Just add this one to your list when next Jono claims that Kubuntu is treated equally and there are only two devs working on Gnome. | 21:03 |
| apachelogger | why did no one test kbluetooth before the version bump? | 21:03 |
| ScottK | I didn't have time. | 21:03 |
| ScottK | The real question is why did they go ahead with no kbluetooth testing. | 21:04 |
| ScottK | I'd suggest maybe Riddell should take that up with slangasek. | 21:04 |
| apachelogger | yeah, Riddell should do that ;-) | 21:04 |
| apachelogger | We should make a list of screw ups and throw it at Jono, so he can do something to prevent them in the future. | 21:05 |
| apachelogger | jjesse: Please make sure to mark bugs as incomplete when you request information. | 21:06 |
| JontheEchidna | Man, we have a ton of incomplete bugs in workspace | 21:06 |
| apachelogger | I am so looking forward to close them :P | 21:11 |
| ScottK | Personally I think if it's a real problem it's better to leave it open and maybe someone else has the problem and adds the info later. | 21:12 |
| ScottK | If it's incomplete because it's not clear there is a real problem, then I think closing is fine. | 21:13 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: in general most of the KDE bugs are actually missing information | 21:13 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: there aren't many incompletes without response really | 21:14 |
| apachelogger | 13 results | 21:15 |
| ScottK | OK. I just think that generally in Ubuntu bug closing is too agressive. | 21:16 |
| apachelogger | I agree. | 21:18 |
| apachelogger | But especially for the big KDE meta packages it is difficult, if we don't keep them clean it's pretty easy to get lost. | 21:18 |
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| apachelogger | bug 176152 is awesome | 21:32 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 176152 in kdebase "cancelling massive konqueror file operations does not cause konqueror to properly cease disk operations" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176152 | 21:32 |
| apachelogger | "1. Create a large file hierarchy (by "large", I mean one that contains hundreds of thousands of directories and a million or more files)." | 21:32 |
| apachelogger | Won't fix => reproducing fails at step 1 | 21:32 |
| apachelogger | :P | 21:32 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Massive file transfer is one of the places where switching from fish to sftp will help. Last time I tried it with fish, if you wanted to transfer 50,000 files it would try to open 50,000 connections with the remote. I forkbombed myself once that way. | 21:43 |
| * apachelogger didn't use fish in years | 21:44 | |
| * apachelogger can't reproduce that bug with 4k folders and 16k files | 21:45 | |
| ScottK | Come on, he said lots .... | 21:45 |
| ScottK | ;-) | 21:46 |
| JontheEchidna | you should cp the folder that has that and place it in the lowest subdirectory | 21:46 |
| apachelogger | hm | 21:48 |
| * ScottK recalls once accidentally being recursive in a file copy script. | 21:49 | |
| apachelogger | 10,000 loops creating 9 directories (each one a sub dir of the previous one) and storing 4 empty files in each dir | 21:49 |
| ScottK | That was the day I learned about command line length limitations for rm. | 21:49 |
| apachelogger | :) | 21:49 |
| apachelogger | I once looped a gpg exec in a wrapper script | 21:50 |
| apachelogger | took down the system in no time | 21:50 |
| apachelogger | almost 2k loops finished | 21:50 |
| ScottK | The fish fork bomb is my favorite though. It was to a shared server account and their system worked perfectly. My account was totally dead and everone else's was fine. | 21:50 |
| apachelogger | hehe | 21:51 |
| ryanakca | apachelogger: *points to the reply to bug 278634 *... beyond my abilities now :) | 22:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 278634 in ubiquity "[Intrepid Beta] KDE does not use the language selected during install" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/278634 | 22:17 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: ^ | 22:18 |
| apachelogger | I have no idea how this was taken care of in KDE 3 | 22:18 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: dunno, that's my priority item for tomorrow | 22:20 |
| apachelogger | ok | 22:20 |
| Riddell | has anyone asked superm what he was thinking when he uploaded an untested bluez? | 22:20 |
| apachelogger | not yet | 22:20 |
| ScottK | Riddell: The reply I got was along the lines of "I asked for people to test it." | 22:24 |
| Riddell | he never asked me | 22:25 |
| ScottK | Riddell: slangasek made a comment about viewing the old version as sufficiently broken on the current kernel that the risk of it getting worse was low. | 22:25 |
| ScottK | Riddell: He did send mail to kubuntu-devel | 22:25 |
| ScottK | Of course I had file transfer before and I don't now, so it's a regression for me. | 22:26 |
| Riddell | humph | 22:26 |
| reisi | should i be able to compile (as i did with kubuntu 8.04 w/ kde4) kde4 apps from cmake sources with the latest beta? (kde-devel installed) | 22:27 |
| reisi | or should i start firing package bugreports; cmake reports that it cannot find KDE4InternalConfig.cmake | 22:27 |
| Riddell | yes you can compile, we wouldn't get very far if you couldn't | 22:28 |
| reisi | Riddell: of course :) but i mean should i now install some other meta-package than kde-devel (with previous version kde4-devel was enough)? | 22:29 |
| Riddell | kde-devel should suffice | 22:30 |
| reisi | ok FindKDE4Internal is where it should be but for some reason cmake still pukes | 22:35 |
| reisi | now that kde4 has moved to /usr it seems that cmake-2.6 scripts have a hard time actually finding anything | 22:51 |
| reisi | FindKDE4.cmake expects kde4-config to be /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kde4-config, as it nowdays is /usr/bin/kde4-config | 23:06 |
| reisi | should i file a bugreport on cmake package on this one? | 23:07 |
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