[09:21] <kwwii> amazing...people now think that the bug tracker is for commentary
[09:21] <kwwii> "I represent all ubuntu users because I am an unbuntu user" - great statement
[09:22] <ziroday> kwwii: where?
[09:26] <kwwii> ziroday: in a bug report...no worries
[09:27] <ziroday> ah :)
[14:15] <dashua> http://picpaste.com/Screenshot-1.png
[14:15] <dashua> Some new murrine tweaks to human-murrine.  What do you think?
[14:40] <kwwii> dashua: what did you change?
[15:13] <zniavre> dashua:  icon theme is great what name it is please?
[15:38] <dashua> kwwii: I added the new new glazestyle=5 and lowered the contrast to .65 which gives a nice subtle look.  Also added GtkEntry::honors-transparent-bg-hint = 1 for  rounded entries in web pages.
[15:38] <dashua> zniavre: A combo of the Breathe Icon Set and whats missing from that is Human.
[15:53] <Nece228> im using murrine storm cloud right now
[15:53] <Nece228> it seems to be faster than other murrine themes
[16:15] <zniavre> dashua:  thank you
[16:17] <dashua> zniavre: Np :)
[16:34] <dashua> zniavre: Sorry, reboot new Nvidia drivers 177.80.  Working good :)
[16:35] <zniavre> still beta drivers ?
[16:53] <rsc-> hiiii
[16:58] <kwwii> howdy
[17:00] <kwwii> rsc-: just answered your email
[17:00] <rsc-> yeah, seeing what i can do about the colors
[17:01] <thorwil> tweaking earthen ibex?
[17:06] <rsc-> yep.
[17:06] <rsc-> on a side note, i managed to get some cumin today from the grocery store and 'adjusted' my leftover chili with it. :p
[17:07]  * rsc- now regrets making earthenibex waaayyy too messy
[17:07] <thorwil> adjusting chili with cumin is new to me
[17:07] <rsc-> "adjusting" meaning just reheating it and adding more spices to it
[17:08] <rsc-> (because I cooked it /without/ cumin)
[17:08] <rsc-> uploading a preview of the adjusted one now (with more gold-ish colors)
[17:08] <thorwil> =8-[]
[17:09] <rsc-> =8-[]?
[17:09] <rsc-> http://dump.ambiescent.com/i/cave3.jpg
[17:09] <thorwil> rsc-: hair-big-eyes-mouth open-wide regarding cooked /without/ cumin
[17:10] <rsc-> haha.
[17:10] <rsc-> I didn't have any. :P
[17:10] <rsc-> (for the record, now i got more than enough)
[17:10] <rsc-> i thought it was in response to the comment about the gold color.
[17:10] <thorwil> that's not earthen ibex any longer. i like it better
[17:11] <rsc-> yeah. I'm not sure about the new additions right now though (the dust and the gems)
[17:11] <zniavre> it looks prehistorical (if the word is correct) i like it
[17:12] <thorwil> rsc-: where's the bg texture from?
[17:12] <rsc-> yeah, i think Kenneth was the one who was pointing towards the "cave painting" direction
[17:12] <thorwil> yes
[17:12] <rsc-> thorwil, layered from a few textures from cgtextures.com
[17:12] <rsc-> (crosses fingers that that'd be alright :()
[17:13] <rsc->  http://dump.ambiescent.com/i/cave2.jpg before adjustment
[17:13] <thorwil> rsc-: do they have any words about licenses on that sit?
[17:13] <rsc-> "No payment or royalties are required to use these Textures"
[17:13] <rsc-> "The use of Textures is non-exclusive, royalty free, and you have the right to modify them"
[17:13] <thorwil> rsc-: no doubt, the new one fits titlebar color better
[17:14] <rsc-> thorwil, titlebar color of human?
[17:14] <thorwil> rsc-: lacks a word about re-distribution. but i guess if no single texture can be made out in your image, it'Äs safe
[17:14] <thorwil> yes
[17:15] <thorwil> or any toned down orange
[17:15] <rsc-> thorwil, im just quoting snippets from their document
[17:15] <rsc-> i think theres a clause about it there
[17:15] <thorwil> ah found the page
[17:16] <rsc-> http://www.cgtextures.com/content.php?action=license
[17:16] <rsc-> yep.
[17:16] <rsc-> really nice resource site, jsut found it recently
[17:17] <thorwil> "Can I use these textures in my Open Source (Creative Commons, GPL, etc) project?
[17:17] <thorwil> No, unfortunately the textures cannot be used in Open Source projects because the licenses are not compatible. Allmost all Open Source licenses allow redistribution of the materials, which is not allowed for these textures."
[17:18] <rsc-> right
[17:18] <rsc-> hehe
[17:18] <rsc-> oh well.
[17:18] <thorwil> but that likely is about unmodified re-distribution
[17:18] <rsc-> yeah
[17:18] <rsc-> i think it's saying it in the context of including the unmodified file as, say, a 3d texture in a GPL'd piece of software
[17:20] <thorwil> yes
[17:21] <thorwil> rsc-: i'm not sure the gems will be understood as such, but they are a nice touch
[17:22] <rsc-> they made more sense when that area was darker (i.e., not on the one i showed), i was planning to do some sort of space-y abstract thing there
[17:22] <rsc-> but with the new color direction im not sure anymore
[17:24]  * thorwil sets as background
[17:24] <rsc-> ah whatever, i'll figure out where to go from here :)
[17:24] <rsc-> cool :)
[17:24] <thorwil> rsc-: human windows on top if it look almost cold in comparison
[17:25] <rsc-> cold?
[17:26] <thorwil> rsc-: yes. cave3 has a quite warm feel and the grey and muddy orange of the windows loose in that competition
[17:26] <rsc-> i was afraid of that.
[17:26] <rsc-> i just toned down the saturation a bit
[17:27] <thorwil> rsc-: now reducing saturation could fix that, but would also risk to make it drab. i would try to make it just a bit darker
[17:27] <rsc-> im just afraid of repeatnig the "way-too-dark" mistake of earthenibex
[17:28] <rsc-> hehe
[17:28] <thorwil> understandable
[17:28] <rsc-> i'll call it a night and do the adjustments tomorrow (its 12 midnight here) :)
[17:28] <thorwil> kwwii: is changing the titlebar color an option?
[17:28] <thorwil> rsc-: ooh, sleep you very well!
[17:33] <rsc-> who did the warty wallpaper?
[17:33] <rsc-> that looked nice.
[17:50] <Borzo> gidday
[18:07] <kwwii> thorwil: not really
[18:07] <kwwii> thorwil: we could change it slightly but not by very much
[18:08] <kwwii> in the meantime I spoke to mark about the themeing
[18:08] <kwwii> and he thinks that although we did say we would include something new we should wait until we have our new team together
[18:20] <kwwii> and with that, I will spend some time helping my son with his homework
[18:20] <kwwii> bbl
[18:38] <thorwil> hello Borzo
[19:01] <Borzo> hi thorwil
[20:55] <kwwii> thorwil: do you know of any way to subscribe to all the Kyūdō pages at once?
[20:55] <kwwii> I am subscribed to the main page, but that doesn't change much
[20:56] <thorwil> kwwii: no, have been wondering myself
[20:57] <thorwil> kwwii: i will post to the list about any more noteworthy edit/addition
[20:57] <thorwil> although opening all pages in tab to cycle through them and clicking subscribe everywhere doesnt take long :)
[20:59] <kwwii> thorwil: yeah, I'll do that in the end, just thought I should ask first
[21:00] <kwwii> I am not the wiki-king in any sense
[21:00]  * kwwii doesn't like wikis (but don't tell anyone)
[21:01] <thorwil> hmm, didn't use wikis much before. it's a good tool for this
[21:05] <kwwii> I was born before the days of computers...been thinking about getting a t-shirt that says "I hate emails"
[21:05] <thorwil> lol
[21:06] <thorwil> just added a section "Means to Express the Message" to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/KyudoGuidelines/Message
[21:07] <thorwil> all other edits already on the ML
[21:07] <thorwil> good night!
[21:07] <kwwii> night man, sleep well
[21:07] <kwwii> see you soon