[00:21] Bitte spendet mir was, hab grad erst neu angefangen. Brauche jeden Cent um mir ein Bier zu holen!!! http://www.pennergame.de/change_please/7842526/ [00:21] Bitte spendet mir was, hab grad erst neu angefangen. Brauche jeden Cent um mir ein Bier zu holen!!! http://www.pennergame.de/change_please/7842526/ [00:21] Bitte spendet mir was, hab grad erst neu angefangen. Brauche jeden Cent um mir ein Bier zu holen!!! http://www.pennergame.de/change_please/7842526/ [00:21] lol [00:22] He sure got us! [00:25] TheMuso, when were you planning on doing that ALSA upload with the merged bluetooth stuff? [00:38] slangasek: thanks for approving the freeze exceptions [00:42] holaaaaaaaaa [00:42] good morning [00:42] stgraber: n/p :) [00:43] I need your help [00:43] superm1: Very soon, just testing the changes on a 32-bit only arch. [00:43] that I need to make. [00:44] superm1: just granted the freeze exception on nautilus-sendto, if you're handling that one [00:55] Is hppa known to be broken ? I had an iTalc build that FTBFS because of broken dependency. [00:55] The following packages have unmet dependencies: imagemagick: Depends: libmagick10 but it is not going to be installed [00:56] yes, TTBOMK everything from glib2.0 on up the tree is broken on hppa, at least [00:56] hmm, ok [00:57] imagemagick looks to be up-to-date, though [00:58] that was yesterday, maybe it got solved [00:58] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/italc/1:1.0.9.1-0ubuntu2/+build/731156 [00:58] ah, no, libmagick10 depends on glib2.0 as well, interesting :) [00:58] hehe, so that explains :) [01:09] superm1: we will need to get the bluetooth alsa-plugins either into ia32-libs, or create a bi-arch bluez-alsa package. [01:13] superm1: alsa-lib uploaded. [01:13] slangasek: does this ring a bell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/55144/? [01:14] slangasek: someone is trying a -server install in #ubuntu-server but it fails because of dmraid. [01:16] mathiaz: not to me, no [01:17] slangasek: is it normal that it doesn't fetch the Packages file from the cdrom? [01:17] mathiaz: easily explained, though; dmraid isn't on the server CD but dmraid-udeb is, so it's probably an apt-install call that fails and dmraid needs to be seeded for server [01:18] mathiaz: ah, that; there's been some fiddling with Packages/Releases in intrepid for reasons of space right up to the beta, so some warnings are to be expected at least [01:18] mvo has been working on it [01:19] slangasek: hm ok - the latest daily iso seem to have dmraid on them. [01:19] we had the same problem with LTSP on Alternate [01:19] it made the LTSP install to file as only .gz versions of Release and Packages are available [01:19] mathiaz: ah; someone fixed the seed post-beta, then? [01:19] stgraber: right, that one was in the errata IIRC [01:19] I think so yes [01:20] slangasek: btw, that doesn't explain why it wants to install dmraid in the first place [01:21] is it not a case of installing on hardware that needs dmraid? [01:21] the server has solid hardware raid, where the RAID is seen as a SCSI drive. not some cheapass half-baked crap raid ;) [01:21] ah [01:21] Dell Poweredge 2650 [01:21] then a bug should be filed on dmraid for that [01:21] Dell Perc [01:22] slangasek: http://chipzz.safehex.be/syslog [01:22] mathiaz: do any of the server tests include a networkless install? [01:22] Chipzz: the beta doesn't have the dmraid package on the cd. The latest -server iso do include it. [01:22] slangasek: btw, the same hardwrae did not work after installation on hardy - it DOES work on debian etch though [01:22] slangasek: not that I know of. [01:22] mathiaz: yeah I'll try the latest daily [01:23] slangasek: at least my testing always uses networks. [01:23] slangasek: should this be added as a test case? [01:23] just mentioning this as a seperate issue [01:23] mathiaz: sounds like something that ought to be added to the checklist, yeah [01:23] mathiaz: since these are all cases that would be silently resolved when a network is availabel [01:23] le [01:23] slangasek: I think something is bugged with the initrd, as that was where it was failing with hardy [01:24] failed to mount the root partition [01:24] could you file a bug about that? [01:25] I can, but I want to try the latest beta first [01:25] (obviously) [01:25] or should a bug be filed against hardy too? [01:27] hardy is meant to be supported beyond the end of intrepid's support cycle, so it'd be nice to catch & fix such issues [01:28] slangasek: btw, if needed I could give you "console access" [01:28] the thing has a remote access controller [01:28] requires IE and java though :( [01:28] superm1: You're a mythbuntu guy right ? [01:29] I tried to upgrade the DRAC firmware tonight, which *should* have fixed it, but alas [01:30] Chipzz: I'm afraid I don't have time to look at this directly, hence encouraging you to file bugs :) [01:30] sure :) [01:30] I meant more along the lines of: "if needed" [01:31] I'll be glad to have to bloody thing installed *at all* really [01:31] sigh [01:31] * Chipzz swears [01:31] no network interfaces detected?? [01:31] Intel GigE? [01:32] yeah [01:32] update your kernel :) [01:32] (if you can) [01:32] stgraber: with te installer? [01:32] stgraber: daily installer image [01:33] well, anything that's a kernel with e1000 back in should work [01:33] slangasek: can this be fixed after installation? I suppose so? [01:33] today's daily for instance [01:33] stgraber: trying the latstes daily as we speak [01:34] that's what failing in the first place [01:34] *latest [01:34] * Chipzz swears again [01:35] it dropped me to the checklist [01:35] I select "Detect disks" [01:35] I select "Partition disks" [01:36] which does the same as "Detect disks" and subsequently drops me back to the checklist [01:36] disk-detect: FATAL: Module dm_mod not found [01:36] fail :P [01:40] erm [01:41] current daily appears to be severly broken? [01:41] # ls /lib/modules/ [01:41] 2.6.27-4-generic [01:41] # cd /cdrom/pool/main/l/linux [01:42] # ls *2.6.27-4*udeb | wc -l [01:42] 4 [01:42] ??? [01:42] only 4 kernel udebs for the running kernel? [01:42] that won't work :P [01:43] there are modules for 2.6.27-5 [01:44] yes, there were image build failures all around today; 2.6.27-4 was meant to already be superseded, I'm not sure why the initramfs has the wrong kernel if that's the case [01:45] should yesterdays image work better? [01:45] yesterday's won't have networking [01:45] but it should be intact otherise [01:45] w [01:45] I can live with that I guess [01:46] I can then use the previous cd to chroot into the installed image and run apt-get upgrade :P [01:46] haxxx++ [01:46] :P [01:48] going out for a smoke === jamesh__ is now known as jamesh [03:18] slangasek: drbd8 ok for ffe? [04:18] stgraber, that's what they tell me at least [04:18] slangasek, yeah i'll take care of uploading the nautilus-sento sru tomorrow [04:19] TheMuso, ah that makes an interesting problem. i'm wondering how necessary it is though considering alsa stuff isn't working on sco (only a2dp) [04:20] superm1: I don't know, but if skype has a remote chance of working, its worth doing. [04:21] TheMuso, well if I get my headset to operate via SCO, sure [04:21] TheMuso, upstream will be having a bug fix release later this week that should be more optimistic, so i'll see then [04:23] TheMuso, how does skype even operate on 64 bit though? [04:23] all 32 bit compat libraries? [04:23] superm1: ok, can you please update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cases when you have time ? [04:23] superm1: Using ia32-libs/lib32asound [04:23] stgraber, i'll defer that to tgm4883. [04:23] superm1: I had a note "Add Mythbuntu to the tracker" but I'd like to know the details, so for each testcases please add a line to the table [04:23] superm1: ok :) [04:51] zul: acked in the bug [04:51] superm1: did you have any more info on "sco is supposed to work" from upstream? [04:52] slangasek, yeah they're at a summit right now working on a few audio related bugs [04:52] heh, k [05:57] is there python module that wraps or binds or anything to expose what dpkg does? [05:58] the apt module is the closest I know of [05:58] There's python-apt [05:58] I am surprised to find p1 = Popen(['dpkg', '--get-selections'], stdout=PIPE) [05:58] yeah, i figured as much [05:59] if self.isstr(pkglist) == True: oh my... [06:00] er... before I jump on coding style.. if self.isstr(pkglist): would be preferred, right? [06:04] how should I submit a patch for /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/NvidiaDetector/nvidiadetector.py ? [06:05] open a bug report in lp and attach it mabye... [06:05] StevenK, there's still something odd with this bluez upgrade since adding bluez-utils back in as a transitional. it doesnt seem to be transitioning. bluez-utils keeps getting held back unless you explicitly say to install it [06:06] StevenK, do you have any suggestions on what's missing from the transition? [06:07] Hmmm [06:08] I thought perhaps it needed a conflicts/replaces on a bunch of the old no longer present packages, so I put that into the ppa, added the ppa as a source and attempted dist-upgrade, but same thing [06:13] superm1: You're using apt-get upgrade? [06:13] StevenK, apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade, trying to use update-manager [06:14] StevenK, none of them want to offer me bluez-utils. [06:14] dist-upgrade shouldn't hold back bluez-utils [06:15] yeah that's what i thought; and why this seems so perplexing [06:16] superm1: what's the full output of 'apt-get install bluez-utils'? [06:16] slangasek, http://paste.ubuntu.com/55173/ [06:17] i'm wondering if perhaps having the recommends on "bluetooth" is what's throwing things [06:19] superm1: I think for starters, you should Replaces: bluez-input/bluez-network/bluez-serial, without bothering with Conflicts: to force removal [06:19] the Conflicts aren't required and get in the way; the packages ought to be autoremovable afterwards anyway [06:20] slangasek, they *do* conflict though [06:20] why? [06:20] slangasek, they provide the same libraries that are in the bluez package now [06:20] no, that's what Replaces: is for [06:21] Replaces: means "the files from this package should supersede the files in the other package" [06:21] so you don't need the Conflicts: to accomplish this [06:21] Hum, i've always seen the combination together conflicts/replaces. You are referring to the "bluez" package, correct? (Not adding this stuff to bluez-utils transitional package) [06:22] yes [06:22] Conflicts/Replaces is for libraries, usually, when they provide the same files [06:22] And you only want one installed at a time anyway [06:23] so likely this should cover the case entirely? I'll upload a test src package to the PPA to ensure it's resolved right. [06:23] the combination of conflicts/replaces together has a subtly different meaning; it's often useful to do because if you only have a Replaces:, then installing and subsequently removing a replacing package has unexpected effects [06:23] but in this case, that's completely irrelevant [06:32] + blacklist cherry # we do not like red fruits [06:32] pitti: ^^ what a terrible regression to introduce in an SRU! [06:35] * Hobbsee steals, and eats, the blacklisted strawberries. [06:39] * Mithrandir tickles Hobbsee and while she recovers, steals the not-yet-eaten strawberries. [06:41] oy! [06:41] * Hobbsee puts Mithrandir through the Industrial Blender (tm) [06:41] oi! [06:41] I'm not blendable! [06:41] Will Mith Blend! [06:41] ;) [06:42] Mithrandir: Industrial Blender does not seem to agree with your claim. [06:42] Hobbsee: Industrial Blender seems to have spit me out in one piece. [06:44] good! Then i'll have the strawberries back. [06:45] I've already eaten them. [06:45] you can have some grapes, but you'll have to pick them yourself. [06:45] they're quite good, though [06:45] they're not overly interesting... [06:45] erichj: I think you want #ubuntu-kernel [06:46] Hobbsee: wow, you're a mind-reader :) [06:46] Treenaks: no, but I do sometimes read #ubuntu+ [06:46] Treenaks: no, but I do sometimes read #ubuntu+1 [06:46] thanks Hobbsee [06:46] erichj: you're welcome. They may not be up yet, either. [06:48] Hobbsee: it still looks cool ;) [06:48] Treenaks: :) [07:28] Good morning [07:29] pitti! [07:29] Morning pitti [07:30] StevenK, I've offically had my first cold day in hell bug in Debian [07:30] slangasek: cdbs symlink> yes, that's an Ubuntu modification in /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/debhelper.mk [07:30] slangasek: eww, that indeed shouldn't happen [07:30] NCommander: Hah [07:30] StevenK, its an NMU, its a new upstream release, and its needed to clear a blocker in lenny [07:31] If that isn't cold day in hell criteria, I have no idea what is [07:31] slangasek: SRU regression> hm, would you accept pineapples instead? [07:32] pitti: blacklisting pineapples would be ok [07:33] * pitti ɐıןɐɹʇsnɐ oʇ sǝʌɐʍ [07:33] Haha [07:33] * StevenK kicks gnuradio's upstream. [07:33] pitti, ok, I missed the joke, can to explain? [07:34] NCommander: I went through great efforts to make it readable from the southern hemisphere [07:34] They seem to use memcpy() and such all over the place, but don't include ? [07:34] StevenK, did I methon that in the process of releasing a new upstream, there is ALSO a soname bump [07:34] * NCommander turns his laptop upsidedown [07:34] slangasek: I have to discuss that with the kernel guys then; they do like pineapples [07:35] pitti, you have WAY too much time on your hands [07:35] pff, fruity kernel people [07:35] we need a blueberry kernel module [07:35] THat would be delicious. [07:35] Mango! [07:35] s/blueberry/marionberry/ [07:35] NCommander: I just have a weird way of naming kernel modules in test suites :) [07:35] pitti, no kidding. [07:35] Just as long as it isn't a lemon [07:35] ;-) [07:36] pitti, you have weird test suites, I get weird bugs [07:39] slangasek: So, who on the server team should I be bugging for this myobdc FTBFS? [07:39] StevenK: whoever uploaded the new version of mysql that broke the ABI? [07:39] StevenK: have you filed a bug yet about libmysqlclient15off being broken? [07:39] I was planning on [07:40] * StevenK does so [07:43] slangasek: Bug 280011 if you want to stamp it and do stuff with it [07:43] Launchpad bug 280011 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "libmysqlclient15off ABI changed without SOVER bump?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/280011 [07:45] slangasek: Maybe adding more information since I'm not really clear on the issue. [07:45] StevenK: "upstream dropped ABI entry points without changing the soname" [07:47] * StevenK thinks about dropping it in zul's lap [07:53] slangasek: Is it worth milestoning? [07:53] StevenK: yes === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [07:53] slangasek: Done. [07:54] superm1, ping [08:04] gr_fft_vcc.cc:78: error: 'memcpy' was not declared in this scope [08:04] SIGH [08:04] lool, you around? [08:05] StevenK: #include kthx :) [08:05] lool, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=494316 [08:05] Debian bug 494316 in libsmbios1 "libsmbios 2.0" [Wishlist,Open] [08:05] slangasek: But I've had to do it for like 30 files [08:06] StevenK: yes, it's a shame the compiler didn't lart the author when it was first written? :) [08:06] Right [08:06] Maybe I need to write a Perl script. [08:07] Search every file that contains memcpy() and doesn't contain [08:07] slangasek, being able to use memcpy() without string.h was one of those long standing GCC quarks :-) [08:11] slangasek, speaking of quirks, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/275410 - I'm just curious if this still needs any other work [08:11] Launchpad bug 275410 in firefox-3.0 "firefox wrapper script breaks sensible-browser, gnome-www-browser, and firefox-3.0" [High,Triaged] [08:11] NCommander: I was hoping asac would ack the fix and roll it into his next update, seeing how there are no Vcs headers for the package and he's listed as the maintainer, not core-dev [08:12] Ah. I just wanted to make sure that didn't get forgotten since its currently breaking a few things in Xubuntu nicely [08:13] I'd suggest following up with asac directly; it won't be forgotten, anyway [08:17] Tim Spriggs is building an auto builder for Nexenta, and has created a web interface for browsing packages.. [08:17] It also lists the ubuntu repository [08:17] you can open a package by selecting the letter, see the various versions available, and expand it to see the dependencies [08:17] http://builder.tajinc.org/?f=package_index [08:19] * StevenK kicks gnuradio and wields grep [08:19] ex : http://builder.tajinc.org/?f=package_status&view_method=name&package_name=g%2B%2B [08:19] StevenK: hrm, gnuradio, does that mean someone fixed python-wxgtk2.6? [08:20] slangasek: python-wxgtk2.6 was broken? [08:20] StevenK: if 'import wx' not working is broken, yes [08:20] StevenK, find . -name '*.c' | while read x; do if grep -q memcpy "$x" && ! grep -Fq '' "$x"; then echo "bad: $x"; fi; done [08:20] liw: I was half-way through writing that ... [08:21] liw: Thanks :-) [08:21] * StevenK fixes it to be -name '*.c' -o -name '*.cc' [08:21] if it's C++ it should probably include something like , shouldn't it? [08:22] The amount of .cc files that are using stdio.h / stdlib.h rather than iostream in this source is scary [08:23] yay for properly written C++ then :/ [08:23] Tell me about it :-( [08:24] And gtklookat has defeated me again, but I'm not sure what to do about it, since upstream seems to have dumped it, and the API/ABI has changed a lot [08:26] shows how much people like iostream too [08:27] pitti: as per last comment in bug 268674, 20080929 language packs should be removed from hardy-proposed since they (or part of them) do not have firefox translations anymore [08:27] Launchpad bug 268674 in language-pack-fi-base "[intrepid] Firefox Finnish localization non-existent in the package, other locales available" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/268674 [08:27] Error: Launchpad bug 20080929 could not be found [08:29] Mirv: ah, only the Finnish ones, or all of them? [08:29] pitti: I haven't checked others, asac's comment sounds like it would affect others, too [08:30] bah; yay for stability [08:31] pitti: hmm, like with 8.10, also 8.04 some have translations (eg. swedish) and apparently some don't. so I don't know which ones are affected, but Finnish at least. [08:32] if the launchpad export format has changed it should theoretically affect more than one language... [08:58] my system is semi broken.. i can't get x to load because my graphics modules need to be recompiled but i can't install kernel-source or linux-headers [08:58] anolis: This isn't a support channel. [08:58] oh.. where is the support channel... sigh [08:59] anolis: /topic - #ubuntu for dapper-hardy, #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid [08:59] thanks [09:10] tjaalton: bug #260675: do you have kernel commit access, or what more needs to happen to move this along? [09:10] Launchpad bug 260675 in wacom-tools "[intrepid] Wacom Xorg module is incompatible with the kernel module shipped in kernel packages." [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/260675 [09:11] slangasek: nope, I've sent it to ubuntu-kernel@ and it was ack'ed but apparently hasn't been committed yet [09:11] ok === mdz_ is now known as mdz [09:25] liw: find -name '*.c' | xargs grep -l memcpy | xargs fgrep -L '' is easier both to read and to write, I think :) [09:25] cjwatson, if you know about -L, yes :) [09:26] hm, I mistakenly sent that e-mail from @canonical.com (because evolution is confused and gets the address wrong when I reply-to-list), but usually the list manager has stopped such a mail and I've resent... now it didn't [09:26] I wonder why? [09:27] liw: ubuntu-devel should whitelist email addresses owned by developers registered on Launchpd. [09:28] +a [09:28] wgrant, I haven't changed those [09:28] hm, but I have @canonical there [09:29] Maybe you got caught in some update lag last time. [09:29] I havent' changed my e-mail addresss there for over a year, afaik [09:29] Hmmm. [09:30] I can't seem to change it at all [09:31] slangasek: thanks for the input on bug #25588 - i've suggested that par2 remains in suggests and we mark this invalid, as par2 is really optional. [09:31] Launchpad bug 25588 in backuppc "Backuppc should recommend par2 instead of suggesting" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25588 [09:32] asac: fyi, we'll be pushing soon a new release of openvpn to fix more rc8/rc9 regressions. Shouldn't affect n-m-openvpn but I thought it would be good to let you know. See bug 279655 for details. [09:32] Launchpad bug 279655 in openvpn "[FFe] Merge openvpn 2.1_rc11-1 from Debian" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/279655 [09:40] wgrant: liw isn't in ubuntu-dev so isn't covered by the auto-whitelisting [09:41] with wgrant's help on #launchpad I did manage to change my e-mail settings, though (and removed all the addresses that LP is not, in my opinion, allowed to register for me :) [09:43] cjwatson: Oh, true, oops. [09:44] liw: lars@c.c is on the ubuntu-devel whitelist - relatively close to the bottom so I presume it's fairly recent [09:45] liw: should lars@u.c be there as well? [09:45] cjwatson, lars@ubuntu.com is how I'm subscribed, so that should be OK; lars@canonica.com is not supposed to e-mail the list ever, so it should not be on the whitelist, either [09:46] ok, I've flipped them [09:46] thanks [09:46] Koon: ok. please test with NetworkManager thoroughly ;) [09:46] in any case, not a big problem, I was just surprised at the new behavior [09:47] asac: I'm on it :) [09:47] the whitelist is generally maintained by "hey, that person is sensible, why am I having to moderate their mail" [09:47] so it's whatever address happened to be on the most recent sensible mail [09:47] cjwatson, I think you may want to smack anyone who thinks I'm reasonable [09:48] cjwatson, I've cancelled via mailman all the @canonical mail I've sent, when it has been caught up in the moderation queue, as far sa I know [09:52] pitti, have you seen my mail? [09:52] tkamppeter: yes, I did [09:57] liw: I have duly smacked myself [10:03] cjwatson, :) [10:06] superm1: if you have a minute today, could you please test the jockey in hardy-proposed for b43 and wl? [10:06] superm1: would be great to get that verified soon, so that -21 can move to -updates [10:08] slangasek: if an application is in main, can a recommends and suggests be in universe? it just cant be in build-depends or depends? [10:15] stefanlsd: suggests can, recommends can't [10:16] (now that recommends are installed by default) [10:16] cjwatson: thanks. :) [10:17] stefanlsd: suggests is ok, recommends isn't === RAOF_ is now known as RAOF === asac_ is now known as asac === luisbg__ is now known as luisbg_ === thegodfather is now known as fabbione [11:37] Mirv: please test http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/rosetta/fi.tar.gz [11:49] asac: looks good so far, installed it and everything seems to work [11:50] asac: also the location bar google search works now [11:57] ArneGoetje: when are you going to upload language packs? [12:09] * pitti giggles at Soyuz -- "Estimated build start: 0 seconds ago", and that for 5 minutes already [12:33] mvo: gtk2hs finally can be upgraded :) thanks for your help! [12:40] calc: do you have bug 272772 on your radar still? [12:40] Launchpad bug 272772 in ubuntu-docs "packages that Depend/Recommend/Suggest firefox (meta-package) must alternatively Depend/Recommend/Suggest abrowser" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272772 [12:41] sistpoty|work: excellent, thanks a lot for the fix :) [12:41] mdke: ^^ that bug is fix committed for ubuntu-docs. whats the status on that? [12:41] mvo: heh, np ;) [12:41] pitti: FYI, it seems that the module name has changed back (you fixed https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/246969 ) [12:41] Launchpad bug 246969 in module-init-tools "[Intrepid] snd_pcsp module causing lockup when running as a VMWare guest" [Medium,Fix released] [12:41] asac, and chance that we see the upstream fix for bug 269188 in intrepid ? [12:41] Launchpad bug 269188 in firefox "Extreme slowness, "Firefox is already running" error for >3 users launching Firefox in LTSP environment" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/269188 [12:41] pitti: or at least, on my system it has [12:42] \sh: could you look at #277175 please? [12:42] Hobbsee: gdm? [12:42] Hobbsee: oh, that [12:42] ogra: i asked you to help me to evaluate that issue ;) [12:42] ogra: well at least the extreme slowness part [12:42] asac, well, that fixed apparently [12:42] Hobbsee: right, I get pcspkr again, but snd_pcsp still exists [12:42] *thats [12:43] pitti: ah, right. [12:43] ogra: so its the urandom issue? [12:43] pitti: so they both do now. brilliant :-\ [12:43] asac, seems teh fix is changing FF to use /dev/urandom instead of /dev/random [12:43] asac, right [12:43] ogra: i cant believe that this is the only issue here :/ [12:44] i'm not sure, i also suspect the xcb changes to play a rold but have no clue how to verify that [12:44] ogra: given that /dev/random was used before i dont see how this might have popped up just now [12:44] especially since people complain about openoffice in hardy as well [12:45] pitti: hey, would be awesome if you could please take a look at bug 267599 without the plugin google talk is not working in Kopete, so we should get it in main for Intrepid. [12:45] Launchpad bug 267599 in qca2-plugin-ossl "Main Inclusion Report for libqca2-plugin-ossl" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/267599 [12:45] *role [12:45] apachelogger: I saw the bug mail, but I'm pretty swamped ATM (and I already did some MIRs today, *hint* *hint* team members) [12:48] * apachelogger pokes asac doko and lool with the mir bug ^ [12:48] :P [12:48] Are we going to have syncs processed at some point? [12:49] apachelogger: runtime dependency of jabber, does that mean it gets loaded through dlopen? [12:49] <\sh> bug #277175 [12:49] Launchpad bug 277175 in ia32-libs "ia32-libs is missing libgnutls26" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277175 [12:50] asac: good question, will have to check, I am not sure if kopete loads the plugin or libqca2 [12:50] apachelogger: what jabber feature is broken/gets cured by this? [12:51] or is jabber completely broken now in kopete? [12:51] asac: ssl encryption [12:51] other than that it works [12:53] hmm ... wasnt ssl incompatible with GPL? [12:54] wgrant: I'll do those today yes, why? [12:54] seb128: Just wondering, as there are lots pending. [12:54] wgrant: ubuntu was frozen for a while for beta [12:54] seb128: Right, but that was almost a week ago now. [12:55] Anyway, as long as they get done fairly soon, all is good. [12:55] wgrant: well, people have been busy since apparently, will do those today sorry about the delay [12:55] Thanks. [12:55] you're welcome [12:56] <\sh> asac: I'm on it [12:56] \sh: great! [12:57] \sh, and not done yet ? slacker ! [12:57] :) [12:57] <\sh> ogra: bah ,-> [12:57] hehe [12:57] asac: the plugin is LGPL [12:58] since we add more and more to ia32-libs, maybe we should just add all libs from main there? :-D [12:59] we could drop everything from it and just call debootsrap --arch i386 from the postinst :) [12:59] <\sh> asac: I wonder if we need to replace libgnutls13 to libgnutls26 or just add libgnutls26...I do now the first shot [12:59] \sh: hmm ... i would say adding the new lib might be safer [13:00] apachelogger: how does the plugin use openssl? doesnt it link against it? [13:01] asac: it does [13:04] asac: kopete links against QCA, QCA tries to load the ossl plugin, which is in fact a qplugin and gets loaded via http://doc.trolltech.com/4.3/qpluginloader.html [13:04] mvo: Hey, I discovered the specification about the debdelta/etc stuff yesterday and I was wondering: is there anything working already? (ie, I know that some of the tools work but could I use them right now to update my system?) [13:07] ping superm1 [13:18] apachelogger: what was used for ssl support before? [13:19] asac: qca-tls [13:19] along with libqca1c2 === cprov1 is now known as cprov [13:24] RainCT: there is some code based on aptsync available, but its pretty crufty - it would be interessting to resurrect it [13:26]