[00:02] <macd__> kirkland, I did actually but in a VM...
[00:03] <macd__> mathiaz, are there plans to have an apache-worker compatible PHP?
[00:03] <mathiaz> macd__: what do you mean exactly?
[00:04] <mathiaz> macd__: you'd like to use the threaded version of apache-mpm to run php scripts with mod_php?
[00:05] <macd__> yes mpm-worker, over mpm-prefork
[00:07] <mathiaz> macd__: well - IIRC the reason why we force mpm-prefork is that there are some php extensions/modules that are not thread safe
[00:07] <mathiaz> macd__: that's why we force the use of mpm-prefork.
[00:07] <macd__> understandable
[00:07] <mathiaz> macd__: there was some discussion last year about using mod-fcgid to run php script.
[00:08] <macd__> I found some of that on the ML archives
[00:08] <macd__> or possibly irc logs
[00:08] <macd__> but thanks for the explanation, take it easy
[00:24] <Chipzz> heh
[00:24] <Chipzz> I just tried installing the latest intrepid beta
[00:24] <Chipzz> with encrypted LVM
[00:25] <Chipzz> and the installation of the base system failed
[00:25] <Chipzz> because dmraid could not be installed
[00:25] <Chipzz> known issue?
[00:26] <Chipzz> (ubuntu-server CD)
[00:26] <Chipzz> kirkland, mathiaz: ^^^
[00:27] <Chipzz> (not daily image I think though)
[00:33] <mathiaz> Chipzz: do you have a software RAID chipset in your system?
[00:37] <Chipzz> no
[00:37] <Chipzz> hardware raid
[00:37] <Chipzz> which btw did not work with hardy
[00:37] <mathiaz> Chipzz: what kind of hardware raid ?
[00:37] <Chipzz> but did work with debian etch
[00:37] <Chipzz> mathiaz: dell perc
[00:38] <Chipzz> mathiaz: not the cheapass "pseudo hardware raid" if that's what you mean :)
[00:38] <mathiaz> Chipzz: do you have the installation logs?
[00:38] <Chipzz> solid, real, scsi hardware raid :)
[00:38] <Chipzz> mathiaz: no, but I'm installing with just LVM (not encrypted LVM) now
[00:38] <Chipzz> and that failed too
[00:39] <Chipzz> which file do you want?
[00:39] <mathiaz> Chipzz: /var/log/syslog
[00:39] <Chipzz> heh
[00:39] <Chipzz> it says something about malformed Release file
[00:39] <Chipzz> on console 4
[00:39] <mathiaz> Chipzz: are you using a local proxy?
[00:40] <Chipzz> no, installing from cdrom
[00:40] <mathiaz> Chipzz: right - but you've setup network?
[00:40] <Chipzz> yes
[00:40] <Chipzz> without proxy though
[00:40] <Chipzz> wait
[00:40] <Chipzz> lemme copy the message
[00:40] <mathiaz> Chipzz: ok - so it will try to update the packages from the internet
[00:42] <Chipzz> base-installer: Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu-Server 8.10 _Intrepid Ibex_ - Beta i386 (20080930.2)]/dists/intrepid/Release  Unable to find expected entry  main/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file)
[00:42] <Chipzz> bad burn?
[00:43] <mathiaz> Chipzz: may be - could you try to run the check cd option?
[00:43] <Chipzz> I can
[00:45] <Chipzz> check option from the cd bootloader (isolinux) or from the installation menu?
[00:45] <Chipzz> (running the one from the installation menu atm)
[00:46] <mathiaz> Chipzz: correct
[00:47] <Chipzz> is there a difference?
[00:47] <Chipzz> apparently this one checks each file
[00:47] <Chipzz> does the one from isolinux check the disc as a whole?
[00:47] <mathiaz> Chipzz: I'm not sure actually. I'd guess it's the same.
[00:48] <Chipzz> btw, should there be any reason why it didn't work with hardy?
[00:48] <Chipzz> installed debian etch on it before, which ran without flaws
[00:48] <Chipzz> ok
[00:48] <Chipzz> test successfull
[00:48] <Chipzz> so no bad media
[00:49] <Chipzz> shall I try a nightly?
[00:50] <mathiaz> Chipzz: that could be an option
[00:52] <Chipzz> hrrrm
[00:52] <Chipzz> where do I find those?
[00:52] <Chipzz> looking around on cdimage.ubuntu.com atm
[00:52] <mathiaz> Chipzz: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/
[00:53] <Chipzz> whoops I missed that :P
[01:02] <Chipzz> mathiaz: btw, I wonder why it even wants that package
[01:02] <spowers> what's with this udev rule for renaming my ethernet card to eth1 instead of leaving it alone at eth0?
[01:02] <Chipzz> the hardware RAID is visible to the OS as a SCSI disk
[01:02] <Chipzz> it should be totally transparant
[01:02] <mathiaz> Chipzz: I agree.
[01:03] <mathiaz> Chipzz: there should be more clue in the installation logs.
[01:03] <mathiaz> Chipzz: as to why it tries to install dmraid.
[01:06] <Chipzz> http://chipzz.safehex.be/syslog
[01:06] <Chipzz> hrrrm
[01:07] <Chipzz> I can possibly even give you ssh access to the box
[01:07] <Chipzz> it has a public IP
[01:07] <Chipzz> depends on how fucked up the base system is I guess
[01:07] <Chipzz> but I did manage to install openssh-client in the /target chroot
[01:08] <Chipzz> mathiaz: you want a login?
[01:09] <Chipzz> (if you don't because you don't care enough, that's totally fine with me too :))
[01:09] <slestak> im in a position to transition a server from win 2003 to lamp and wondered if I could get some info on ubuntu paid support sla
[01:10] <slestak> ive seen the website and the pricing, but i am really wanting to know the expertise of the support you get from canonical
[01:10] <Chipzz> slestak: there's a difference between "support" and SLA I suppose
[01:10] <Chipzz> (though I;m not an ubuntu developer nor a canonical employee)
[01:11] <slestak> i guess what i am using as a standard is the rhel support i get from dell.  i have always been suprised (happily) at the depth of experience we get from dell for the single poweredge we have with rehl.
[01:11] <slestak> and the canonical suport cost much less, but its only a bargain if it is useful.
[01:12] <slestak> i am pretty self supporting, but my boss (es) dont sleep well without software support
[01:12] <Chipzz> ,but you mention something there
[01:12] <slestak> hey pay through the nose now, so ive got to get sth
[01:12] <Chipzz> support you get from dell <-> support you get on rhel
[01:13] <Chipzz> dell as a hardware vendor is in a position to give SLA level support
[01:13] <slestak> dell techs have given us os support (not for apps)
[01:13] <Chipzz> rhel as a software vendor much less I think?
[01:13] <slestak> i like ubuntu and use it persnally, im just trying to get a feel if i can take it to work
[01:14] <slestak> in the server room
[01:15] <mathiaz> slestak: there was an article in a linux magazine a couple of months ago where the support from Suse, Redhat and Canonical were compared. Canonical was on pair with Redhat IIRC.
[01:16] <mathiaz> slestak: and for full disclosure I work for Canonical
[01:16] <Chipzz> s/pair/par/ :P
[01:18] <Chipzz> mathiaz: anyway, burning the daily image atm
[01:18] <slestak> mathiaz: man, i would like to see that.  remember if it was LJ or L FOrmat?
[01:18] <Chipzz> you want more info/a login or should I just try that?
[01:19] <mathiaz> Chipzz: try the latest iso
[01:19] <Chipzz> ok I'll do that first
[01:19] <mathiaz> Chipzz: yes - it may have been fixed - I'm discussing the issue in #ubuntu-devel ATM
[01:20]  * Chipzz wishes the bloody DRAC would work correctly
[01:20] <Chipzz> heh
[01:20] <Chipzz> I'm there too :)
[01:22] <slestak> I'll check with sales.  i bet ubuntu marketing will have that article.
[01:22] <slestak> thanks for the info
[01:24] <mathiaz> slestak: it was in the August version of Linux Format
[01:24] <mathiaz> slestak: august 2007
[01:26] <slestak> thx
[01:30] <slestak> mathiaz: found it, available as pdf.  awesome
[01:31] <slestak> im kitting out a lamp server for apache tomcat.  is ubuntu hardy server pretty current and stable with sun jdk?
[01:33] <slestak> i guess thats a loaded question.  i'll load it up and try.  thx for the info
[01:47] <robnyc> anyone here runs X on the server?
[01:50] <gcleric> no but got an issue?
[04:23] <jdub> looks like php5's timezone data in 8.04 is old
[04:24] <jdub> can't see any bugs about timezone stuff under php5 at all tho, which seems odd (even closed)
[05:06] <jdub> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/279980
[05:06] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 279980 in php5 "php5 using bundled tzdata in hardy?" [Undecided,New]
[05:10] <ajmitch> there are workarounds until the timezone info gets updated
[05:10] <ajmitch> like a timezone extension that overrides the internal info
[05:11] <ajmitch> http://pecl.php.net/package/timezonedb/ if you need it
[05:12] <jdub> hrm, also looks like a php5-timezonedb pacakge was removed from intrepid
[05:13]  * ajmitch only hit the problem on etch with NZDT
[05:14] <jdub> oh man
[05:14] <jdub> requires building foo ;)
[05:14] <jdub> mmm, and only php5 in intrepid uses the system tzdata
[05:14] <ajmitch> phpize, make
[05:15] <ajmitch> php is a mess
[05:16] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #279980 in php5 (main) "php5 using bundled tzdata in hardy?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/279980
[05:16] <jdub> heh
[05:16] <ajmitch> it's a little slow
[05:24]  * jdub tries to remember not to build stuff for amd64 on i386 machines...
[05:25]  * ajmitch remembers having exactly that problem recently, sadly enough
[05:34] <jdub> ajmitch: could you mark that confirmed and importantish?
[05:43] <e-jat> jdub, still here?
[05:43] <jdub> e-jat: hi
[05:43] <e-jat> i just wanna send ya your pic @ police station :)
[05:44] <e-jat> nice post :]
[05:44] <jdub> ?
[05:44] <e-jat> remember ya case in MY ?
[05:45] <jdub> ha ha
[05:45] <e-jat> where should i sent to ?
[05:45] <jdub> jdub@bethesignal.org is fine
[05:45] <jdub> heh
[05:45]  * jdub connects the dots ;)
[05:46] <e-jat> ok then ..
[05:46] <e-jat> attaching ..
[05:46] <e-jat> wonder if u could come too with pia next month
[05:47] <jdub> e-jat: hopefully, seems it is still being negotiated
[05:48] <e-jat> ic
[07:56] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #280011 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "libmysqlclient15off ABI changed without SOVER bump?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/280011
[08:32] <kraut> moin
[10:18] <makkro> hey all. I've just installed Ubuntu 64bit and grabbed a xen-image but when I reboot there is no menu where to choose kernel as in Debian, have I missed something?
[12:38] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #280123 in dhcp3 (main) "dhcp3-server needs initscript adjustment for network manager managed mode" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/280123
[13:05] <zul> Koon: ^^^ can you have a look at that when you get a chance
[13:06] <Koon> zul: sure
[13:06] <zul> Koon: thanks
[14:32] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #280176 in samba (main) "hardy->intrepid upgrade failed" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/280176
[14:43] <tjaalton> soren: this change in multipath-tools; "Fix preinst script to modprobe dm-multipath" makes the package install to fail if it's installed by appending the package to pkgsel/include
[14:43] <tjaalton> because there's no modules.dep yet
[14:45] <tjaalton> oh, that was already filed as bug 182009
[14:45] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 182009 in multipath-tools "multipath-tools fails to install when the dm-multipath module is not found" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182009
[14:51] <tjaalton> soren: hmm, that's a change made by fabbione, which is no longer an employee, right?
[14:53] <ogra> but still ubuntu maintainer :)
[14:54] <tjaalton> ok, so I'll make him the owner of the bug then :)
[15:27] <RediXe> Anyone have any suggestions on offsite backup's? Just looking for thoughts/idea's
[15:29] <ivoks> bacula :D
[15:29] <ivoks> bye
[16:47] <Koon> mathiaz: about bug 274365 -- my fear is that it's not easy to "fix" sun-java6 because -bin effectively needs -jre and -jre effectively needs -bin
[16:47] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 274365 in tomcat6 "Installation over Sun JVM might fail if JVM is not yet configured" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/274365
[16:48] <mathiaz> Koon: hm - I see your point. It may be a bug in dpkg/apt though.
[16:49] <mathiaz> Koon: the problem is that even though there is this circular dependency it should be sorted out for tomcat6.
[16:49] <Koon> mathiaz: the bug is that those two packages should probably just be one, but that's a big change to push now, especially as some packages depend on -bin where they should depend on -jre
[16:49] <mathiaz> Koon: smart-pm is able to handle that situation correclty.
[16:49] <Koon> that's because it's "smart" :)
[16:49] <mathiaz> Koon: right - I'll probably sponsor your upload.
[16:50] <mathiaz> Koon: it's just that adding || true to the init script may not catch other errors.
[16:50] <brousch> is there a tomcat6 backport to hardy?
[16:50] <Koon> mathiaz: tbh I thought tomcat6 would also fail to start if something else was using port 8080, so that would catch that too. However if the port is taken tomcat6 still starts
[16:51] <Koon> mathiaz: we probably need to rewrite the whole usage of jsvc there, to get smarter status and log files
[16:51] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #280265 in network-manager-openvpn (universe) "Wrong handle of passwords (dup-of: 275608)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/280265
[16:51] <Koon> world-unreadable log files are another bug coming from jsvc usage
[16:52] <Koon> brousch: no
[16:53] <mathiaz> Koon: worl-unreadable?
[16:53] <brousch> koon, thanks
[16:53] <mathiaz> Koon: isn't that a good thing
[16:53] <mathiaz> Koon: OTOH apache2 access logs are also world-readable IIRC
[16:54] <Koon> mathiaz: they are created with umask 600, which is kinda restrictive
[16:54] <Koon> and hardcoded into jsvc.
[16:54] <mathiaz> Koon: agreed - 600 is too restrictive
[16:55] <Koon> you cannot fix that unless you put jsvc out of the picture (or you add a feature to it to change that hardcoded umask)
[16:55] <Koon> and jsvc handles running as an unpriviledged user.
[16:55] <RediXe> What is the preferred way to mount a network directory for multiple users? Been using sshfs but having permission issue's so thinking about trying something else.
[16:55] <Koon> so that's... complicated.
[16:56] <Koon> but that's one of my improvement plans for Jaunty
[16:56] <Koon> in addition to apache integration
[16:57] <Koon> mathiaz: I'd also welcome your insights on bug 260687 -- that's a pretty bad one that we should probably target for release
[16:57] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 260687 in samba "Purging samba breaks login (pam_smbpass.so segfaults)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/260687
[16:58] <Koon> aka "do not apt-get install libpam-smbpass"
[17:56] <mathiaz> kirkland: for the virtio issues:
[17:56] <mathiaz> kirkland: 1. for block device (virtio) only the installer doesn't work
[17:57] <mathiaz> kirkland: If you install it with a ide bus and then switch to virtio (and modify sda->vda) it works
[17:57] <kirkland> mathiaz: leading one to believe that it's the installer issue
[17:58] <kirkland> mathiaz: judging by the error message i saw, it looked like a grub problem
[17:58] <mathiaz> kirkland: probably - the installer may not recognize /dev/vd* devices
[17:58] <mathiaz> kirkland: I'm checking if virtnet works outside the installer
[18:03] <mathiaz> kirkland: virtio_net works in an intrepid guest.
[18:03] <mathiaz> kirkland: so it seems that there is only an issue in the installer.
[18:04] <mathiaz> kirkland: see bug 257739 on how to start a kvm instance with a virtio_net interface
[18:04] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 257739 in linux "intrepid guest install with virtio net doesn't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/257739
[18:04] <mathiaz> kirkland: this is a regression wrt to hardy
[18:04] <kirkland> mathiaz: okay
[18:15] <slicslak> i dumped some scripts in /etc/cron.hourly but they don't seem to be running
[18:15] <jmedina> slicslak: did you read the cron logs?
[18:25] <mathiaz> nijaba: looking at the minimal install for the -server iso. It will install the -server kernel flavor.
[18:26] <mathiaz> nijaba: how would we get the -virtual flavor?
[18:26] <mathiaz> nijaba: ie - how do we get the equivalent of JeOS ?
[18:26] <nijaba> mathiaz: first step: net linux-image-virtual need to be built
[18:26] <nijaba> mathiaz: which was not the case last time I hecked with soren
[18:27] <mathiaz> nijaba: right - there is a package linux-image-virtual but it doesn't ship the right stuff apparently (it has the -server bits in it)
[18:27] <nijaba> mathiaz: then soren said that it could be preseeded.  I was arguing with him that it hould be the default
[18:28] <mathiaz> nijaba: correct - however the description may mislead people
[18:28] <nijaba> mathiaz: when I said default, I mean default for the minimal install
[18:28] <mathiaz> nijaba: the description is: Install a minimal system
[18:28] <mathiaz> nijaba: there isn't any mention of virtual environment there
[18:28] <nijaba> mathiaz: yes, this is poorly chosen if the goal is to provide an alternate to JeOS
[18:28] <mathiaz> nijaba: if -virtual is installed by default, most of the install on real hardware will not work
[18:29] <mathiaz> nijaba: ok.
[18:29]  * nijaba should have brought it up at the last meeting.  Adding it for the next one
[18:32] <nijaba> mathiaz: added for next meeting
[18:40] <mathiaz> nijaba: well - we'll have to try to get it fixed earlier then that because next week is KernelFreeze
[18:41] <nijaba> mathiaz: hmmm  right!
[18:42] <nijaba> mathiaz: do you have room for it?  my prefered option would be to have both "minimal install" and "JeOS for virtual environements"
[18:43] <mathiaz> nijaba: well - first the -virtual packages need to be fixed
[18:44] <mathiaz> nijaba: once I can try to have a look at it.
[18:44] <nijaba> mathiaz: according to pete, ben was supposed to be on it
[18:44] <mathiaz> nijaba: but that may require some work to sort out which seed should installed and so on
[18:46] <nijaba> mathiaz: bug 276292, marked as Fix released!
[18:46] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 276292 in linux-meta "Metapackages for virtual flavour are missing" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/276292
[18:47] <mathiaz> nijaba: right - but the -virtual package contains all the -server stuff.
[18:48] <mathiaz> nijaba: I'm not sure how the -virtual package is supposed to work though.
[18:49] <nijaba> mathiaz: should we bug soren for this?
[18:49] <mathiaz> nijaba: I've asked in #ubuntu-kernel
[18:50] <nijaba> mathiaz: ok, thanks
[18:54] <sylvaing> nijaba: what do you think about: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/obm/+bug/259776/comments/5
[18:54] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 259776 in obm "MIR for obm" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[18:55] <nijaba> sylvaing: looks good.  I'll reply that we don't intend to install by default
[18:57] <sylvaing> ok, so I change packaging to set username/password by debconf, or not ( use default username/password)
[19:07] <slicslak> i dumped some scripts in /etc/cron.hourly but they don't seem to be running.  syslog does report: /USR/SBIN/CRON[21468]: (root) CMD (   cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)   what could be the issue?  the scripts are owned by root and are executable.
[19:33] <slicslak> ahhh, they were named .bash and that's not allowed.  wierd.  ok.
[19:55] <Lycan`server> hey everyone
[19:55] <Lycan`server> Hostname: ubuntu - OS: Linux 2.6.24-19-server/i686 - CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 (1495.198 MHz) - Processes: 57 - Uptime: 20h 18m - Load Average: 0.00 - Memory Usage: 47.14MB/503.17MB (9.37%) - Disk Usage: 0.94GB/73.49GB (1.28%)
[19:55] <slicslak> careful, you might start a record with that 20h uptime!
[19:55]  * Nafallo wonders why we even care...
[19:56] <KelebekTurkce787> www.adiyamankampus.com
[19:57] <LeChacal> I have to modprobe my NIC drives right now every time my system boots what do i do to have them auto load upon boot? thank you
[19:58] <KelebekTurkce787> ý am sewrver
[19:58] <KelebekTurkce787> lazým
[19:58] <KelebekTurkce787> aq
[20:00] <slicslak> LeChacal, configure your kernal to include them or include your modprobes in a system startup script.  the latter is probably easier although i don't know offhand which script would be best.
[20:02] <robnyc> slicslak, ? record with 20h lol
[20:02] <robnyc> its my first server ever and i put ubu
[20:02] <robnyc> is there's a development release going on for ubuntu-serveR?
[20:02] <LeChacal> slicslak: how about putting it in /etc/modules?
[20:02] <slicslak> robnyc, yes, it was my lame attempt at some humor.  :)
[20:03] <robnyc> do-release-upgrade -d :)
[20:03] <slicslak> LeChacal, or /etc/modprobe.d/ ?  here is where i'm too new to this distro.  but one of those is probably the solution.
[20:04] <KelebekTurkce787> HELP
[20:04] <LeChacal> slicslak: ok thank you ill try that
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[20:07] <robnyc> slicslak, you running release or development =P
[20:08] <slicslak> robnyc a mix but mostly release
[20:09] <robnyc> oh ok
[20:09] <robnyc> im upgrading to development now :)
[20:11] <slicslak> robnyc, nice.  for what reasons?
[20:12] <robnyc> slicslak, play
[20:30] <robnyc|server> new kernel
[20:43] <stweston> hello, all. I seem to be having trouble installing Lynx on my new server install.
[20:45] <RediXe> !bind9
[20:48] <RediXe> Anyone around that might be able to help me set up bind9? http://ulyssesonline.com/2007/11/07/how-to-setup-a-dns-server-in-ubuntu/ is the guide I'm following but it's failing to startup at the end.
[20:49] <Gargoyle> stweston: You would probably get an answer if a. You asked a question, and b. gave a bit more details. (I assume you have tried sudo apt-get install lynx)
[20:50] <stweston> yes. I have. How do I install Lynx without sudo apt-get install lynx?
[20:50] <stweston> or is there not a way to work around this?
[20:50] <Gargoyle> what do you mean without sudo... ?
[20:50] <stweston> I don't know, frankly.
[20:51] <stweston> It's just saying "package lynx has no installation candidate"
[20:51] <Gargoyle> stweston: OK, open a terminal window and type sudo apt-get install lynx
[20:51] <stweston> I'm in Ubuntu Server, not a regular install.
[20:51] <Gargoyle> what version of ubuntu?
[20:51] <stweston> that's what I just got
[20:51] <stweston> 8.04.1
[20:53] <Gargoyle> Worked straight up on mine, you tried updating the package list?
[20:53] <stweston> no. not yet
[20:53] <stweston> how, exactly?
[20:53] <Gargoyle> hang on
[20:53] <stweston> okay
[20:53] <Gargoyle> !apt
[20:54] <Gargoyle> You should read that...
[20:54] <Gargoyle> but the update command is sudo apt-get update
[20:55] <stweston> okay
[20:56] <stweston> I think I have the problem of no internet connection...
[20:56] <stweston> but it installed just fine with an ethernet
[20:57] <Gargoyle> ah, ok. Dunno of lynx is on the cd!
[20:57] <Gargoyle> I always have a working net connection!
[20:58] <stweston> I think it should've worked fine, though
[20:58] <stweston> it installed with the Ethernet that's plugged in
[20:58] <stweston> just half an hour ago
[20:58] <Gargoyle> try pinging google
[20:58] <stweston> how?
[20:58] <stweston> (I'm a real newbie at the cmd line.)
[20:58] <Gargoyle> ping www.google.com
[20:58] <stweston> okay
[20:59] <stweston> says "unknown host"
[20:59] <stweston> and the site, of course.
[20:59] <Gargoyle> ok, pastebin your output from ifconfig
[20:59] <stweston> okay
[21:00] <stweston> wait -
[21:00] <stweston> I can't pastebin because of no internet!
[21:00] <Gargoyle> ok, do you have an eth0 device listed?
[21:00] <stweston> it just has one line saying: "ping: unknown host www.google.com"
[21:00] <Gargoyle> no.. the output from "ifconfig"
[21:00] <stweston> I don't know much about these commands you're talking about. I need to know the command to use it
[21:01] <stweston> iconfig?
[21:01] <stweston> of
[21:01] <stweston> if*
[21:01] <stweston> ifconfig?
[21:01] <Gargoyle> ifconfig
[21:01] <Gargoyle> yes
[21:01] <stweston> oh. I see now
[21:01] <Gargoyle> should look something like http://pastebin.com/d7f373e93
[21:01] <stweston> yes. I have eth0
[21:01] <RediXe> Trying to restart bind9 and I get "rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused"   checking /var/logs/messages I find  [UFW BLOCK INPUT]:     I ran "sudo ufw allow 953" to try and open it up but no luck.
[21:02] <Gargoyle> stweston: what does it say for inet addr?
[21:03] <stweston> 192.168.2.11
[21:03] <stweston> what does that have to do with this?
[21:03] <Gargoyle> stweston: ok, is it on the same network as your computer?
[21:03] <stweston> this one? yes
[21:03] <stweston> the one I'm talking to you on.
[21:03] <Gargoyle> do you know the IP of your router?
[21:03] <stweston> I don't think so...
[21:03] <Gargoyle> what type of machine is it?
[21:04] <stweston> but I'm guessing that it's the same as my mac that I'm talking to you on - custom machine.
[21:04] <stweston> it's connected by Ethernet with internet sharing applied
[21:05] <Gargoyle> So the server is connected via your mac?
[21:05] <stweston> yes
[21:05] <stweston> it has no other way
[21:05] <Gargoyle> ok, open a terminal on your mac
[21:05] <stweston> the router's too far away for a wireless B adapter.
[21:05] <stweston> okay
[21:05] <Gargoyle> and type netstat -rn
[21:06] <stweston> and I'm looking for the gateway?
[21:06] <Gargoyle> it should say "default" in the first column
[21:06] <stweston> okay
[21:07] <stweston> yeah
[21:07] <stweston> it does
[21:07] <Gargoyle> and the ip?
[21:07] <stweston> 192.168.0.1
[21:08] <stweston> I think
[21:08] <Gargoyle> ok, finally, on your mac - also run ifconfig
[21:08] <stweston> okay
[21:08] <stweston> then?
[21:09] <Gargoyle> Now the ifconfig on a mac is different than linux, but you should have some addresses for 192.168.2.x and 192.168.0.x ?
[21:09] <stweston> okay... I'll search
[21:09] <Gargoyle> Prolly just need the 2.x one?
[21:10] <stweston> yeah. the 2.x one. the x is 1
[21:10] <Gargoyle> OK, from the linux machine, try ping 192.168.2.1
[21:10] <stweston> got [some number] bytes of data
[21:11] <stweston> at the end.
[21:11] <Gargoyle> ok, ctrl-c to stop it, and try again to 192.168.0.1
[21:11] <stweston> okay
[21:12] <stweston> same
[21:12] <stweston> still working, though
[21:12] <Gargoyle> and finally, ping 216.239.59.104
[21:12] <stweston> okay
[21:13] <stweston> still the same
[21:13] <stweston> is that good or bad?
[21:14] <Gargoyle> Good, your linux machine can see the net, it just can't resolve names - your mac is not doing DNS proxy
[21:14] <Gargoyle> ok, on your linux console, type sudo nano -w /etc/resolv.conf
[21:14] <stweston> wait...
[21:14] <stweston> that was supposed to be on the mac?
[21:14] <stweston> sorry
[21:15] <Gargoyle> did you do the pings from linux?
[21:15] <stweston> yes
[21:15] <stweston> but they were all the same
[21:15] <Gargoyle> ok, thats correct
[21:15] <stweston> okay
[21:15] <Gargoyle> on your linux console, type sudo nano -w /etc/resolv.conf
[21:15] <stweston> hey!
[21:15] <stweston> did that
[21:15] <Gargoyle> you should just have two lines... search and nameserver?
[21:16] <stweston> okay...
[21:16] <stweston> yes
[21:16] <Gargoyle> what is the nameserver?
[21:16] <stweston> same as the thing on the mac - 192.168.2.1
[21:16] <Gargoyle> ok, change it to 192.168.0.1
[21:16] <stweston> okay
[21:16] <Gargoyle> press ctrl-x
[21:16] <Gargoyle> answer y to save
[21:16] <Gargoyle> and hit enter
[21:17] <stweston> okay
[21:17] <Gargoyle> you back to your console now?
[21:17] <stweston> no
[21:17] <Gargoyle> still in nano?
[21:17] <stweston> still says "modified" at the top-right, too
[21:18] <stweston> maybe the wrong key? I've got a weird key mix-up
[21:18] <Gargoyle> ahh,
[21:18] <stweston> not software, but where the keys are located
[21:18] <stweston> nope
[21:18] <stweston> ctrl-x doesn't do anything
[21:18] <stweston> just a beep
[21:18] <Gargoyle> when you press ctrl x does it change at the bottom?
[21:19] <stweston> yes
[21:19] <stweston> it did
[21:19] <stweston> but now it just gives beeps
[21:20] <Gargoyle> what does it say at the bottom?
[21:20] <stweston> file name to write (path)
[21:20] <stweston> the (path) is the path to the conf file
[21:20] <Gargoyle> hit enter
[21:21] <stweston> okay
[21:21] <stweston> there we go
[21:21] <Gargoyle> now try ping www.google.com
[21:21] <stweston> back in the Terminal
[21:21] <stweston> looks like nothing at this point, but I'll wait and see
[21:21] <stweston> unknown host
[21:22] <stweston> should I try http?
[21:22] <stweston> http://
[21:22] <Gargoyle> nope
[21:22] <stweston> okay
[21:22] <stweston> what would that do?
[21:22] <stweston> just, hypotheticaly
[21:22] <Gargoyle> http:// is not part of a host name.
[21:22] <stweston> oh
[21:22] <stweston> gotcha
[21:22] <Gargoyle> it's the protocol
[21:22] <stweston> okay
[21:23] <Gargoyle> On your mac, bring up your network preferences
[21:23] <stweston> okay
[21:24] <stweston> done
[21:24] <Gargoyle> just list what you have for ip address, subnet, gateway and dns server for your ethernet
[21:24] <stweston> okay...
[21:25] <stweston> ip address is 169.254.176.201
[21:25] <stweston> subnet mask is 255.255.0.0
[21:25] <stweston> dns has nothing
[21:25] <Gargoyle> eh. Do you have more than one ethernet?
[21:26] <stweston> no
[21:26] <stweston> I'm not directly connected to the router. it's a wireless thing
[21:26] <stweston> connection*
[21:26] <Gargoyle> I thought we had 192.168.2.1 from ifconfig before.... never mind. Change it to Manually
[21:27] <stweston> hm...
[21:27] <stweston> okay
[21:27] <stweston> manually?
[21:27] <Gargoyle> set your IP to 192.168.2.1, subnet to 255.255.255.0
[21:27] <stweston> okay
[21:27] <stweston> wait - which one?
[21:27] <stweston> the mac?
[21:27] <Gargoyle> yup. for your ethernet?
[21:28] <stweston> ...
[21:28] <stweston> you mean for the ethernet sharing?
[21:28] <stweston> the mac is connected wirelessly
[21:28] <Gargoyle> what version of mac os is it?
[21:28] <stweston> 10.5
[21:29] <Gargoyle> On the internet sharing page, do you have share connection from wifi, to computers on ethernet?
[21:29] <stweston> yes
[21:30] <Gargoyle> Hmm, then I am sure you need to set the ethernet up as 192.168.2.1
[21:30] <stweston> okay...
[21:30] <stweston> on which, and how?
[21:31] <Gargoyle> in your mac, under the network settings
[21:31] <stweston> okay
[21:31] <stweston> the DNS server?
[21:31] <stweston> or what?
[21:31] <Gargoyle> dns and gateway can be blank
[21:31] <stweston> I don't have the option to edit it, I don't think
[21:32] <Gargoyle> You changed the dropdown at the top to Manually?
[21:32] <stweston> oh! it has a self-assigned IP, for some reason
[21:32] <stweston> it doesn't have that. it has Automatic and Edit
[21:33] <stweston> edit locations
[21:33] <Gargoyle> Not that one, next one down.
[21:33] <stweston> that's it
[21:33] <stweston> oh...
[21:33] <stweston> gotcha
[21:33] <Gargoyle> :)
[21:34] <stweston> done
[21:34] <Gargoyle> What values do you have for the wifi / aiport ?
[21:34] <stweston> airport is still at max. connection
[21:35] <Gargoyle> yeah, under network settings, pick airport from the list on the left
[21:35] <stweston> okay
[21:35] <Gargoyle> just wanna double check gateway and dns
[21:35] <stweston> done
[21:35] <stweston> okay
[21:35] <Gargoyle> router and dns
[21:35] <stweston> advanced, or what?
[21:35] <stweston> wait - what, exactly?
[21:35] <Gargoyle> oh, crap... I dont have wifi... leme check my laptop
[21:35] <stweston> doesn't list either
[21:36] <stweston> so, does this mean you have a few macs at home?
[21:37] <Gargoyle> yup
[21:37] <Gargoyle> :)
[21:37] <stweston> sweet
[21:37] <stweston> I'll be right back
[21:37] <stweston> gotta do a couple things
[21:37] <stweston> okay?
[21:37] <Gargoyle> just try pinging www.google.com from the linux box quick
[21:37] <stweston> okay
[21:38] <stweston> hey!
[21:38] <stweston> it works!
[21:38] <Gargoyle> Cool, you should be able to update apt, and install lynx now.
[21:38] <stweston> should I cancel?
[21:38] <stweston> okay
[21:38] <Gargoyle> yeah
[21:39] <stweston> ...
[21:39] <stweston> still no installation candidate
[21:39] <stweston> could be that it's obsolete
[21:39] <stweston> I dunno
[21:39] <Gargoyle> does sudo apt-get update work?
[21:39] <stweston> oh...
[21:39] <stweston> right
[21:39] <stweston> yay!
[21:40] <stweston> thank you so much!
[21:40] <Gargoyle> no problem
[21:40] <stweston> I'll just wait until I get Lynx installed, then I'll go.
[21:40] <stweston> see ya, and thanks!
[21:40] <stweston> again
[21:40] <Gargoyle> cya
[21:40] <Gargoyle> :D
[21:42] <RediXe> Anyone want to help me tackle setting up DNS? I think I'm close but still rndc is still failing with connection refused
[22:12] <RediXe> Any dns guru's out there?
[22:15] <trashguy> i know the bind
[22:15] <RediXe> Trying to setup bind on an Ubuntu Server: http://ulyssesonline.com/2007/11/07/how-to-setup-a-dns-server-in-ubuntu/ is the guide I tried to follow. I managed to get it to restart and can run dig with the results: http://pastebin.com/d1202abad    If I assign my connection dns to my dns server I can't get to anywhere with www.domain.com. I can type in IP and get there just fine.
[22:45] <bogey-> How would you configure syslog to take all messages from one host and send them to a file?
[22:51] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #280428 in openvpn (universe) "Prompted for VPN (openvpn) user info at boot-up" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/280428
[22:58] <[Solars]> you can do tail -f <file> >> to shared directory/file (i think)
[22:59] <trashguy> ?
[22:59] <trashguy> grep the host name
[23:06] <Andy80> hi all
[23:08] <Andy80> I've installed Apache2, php5 ecc.... on my Ubuntu 8.04.1, when I try to visit http://localhost/mysite (it's located under /var/www/mysite and I've added/enabled site in /etc/apache2/sites-available/mysite ecc....) it want me do download a phtml file :( while if I visit http://localhost/mysite/index.php the page loads correctly... how can I fix this?thanks!
[23:09] <bogey-> Can anyone tell me how to set syslog-ng to send all messages FROM 192.168.1.1 TO /var/log/pix.log?
[23:36] <MatBoy> does someone know a good openfiler alternative with ubuntu /
[23:53] <J_86> how do i change the hosts name, using the command line, in ubuntu server?
[23:53] <trashguy> ?
[23:54] <trashguy> MatBoy, FreeNAS
[23:54] <trashguy> freebsd based
[23:54] <trashguy> and pro
[23:56] <J_86> if i just edit /etc/hostname...will the break something? :)
[23:56] <J_86> that*