[00:00] <KenBW2> Agrajag: i dont really know what that means but i'll take your word for it
[00:00] <LjL> KenBW2: it means that instead of relying on the libraries supplied by the system (which may be different versions and flavors depending on your distribution), they come with the libraries they need built right into the binary
[00:00] <dale> last question, how can I define 3/4 shortcuts for an application to come in to focus, like f1 -> firefox, f2 -> emacs, f -> shell
[00:00] <vocx> wallrus, in the options it says "ro", read-only, add "rw" read-writable instead.
[00:00] <LjL> KenBW2: that causes bloat, but makes it runnable on most linux systems
[00:01] <dale> pressing alt+tab is just annoying
[00:01] <KenBW2> LjL: does that mean it could run ion non-Linux OSs?
[00:02] <LjL> KenBW2: err, no, of course not
[00:02] <LjL> KenBW2: i said it makes it runnable on most *linux* systems
[00:02] <vocx> wallrus, http://pastebin.com/md15bbd4
[00:02] <KenBW2> LjL: well i thought "linux" was meaningless unless you were talking something low-level?
[00:02] <Agrajag> KenBW2: nope, it's still a linux ELF binary. You might be able to run it on something like a BSD system which has an ELF loader
[00:03] <Agrajag> but it's unlikely
[00:03] <LjL> KenBW2: you've heard too much nonsense from people who read stuff written by the FSF and don't understand it, then
[00:03] <Vincent91> Quick question: I'm resizing a partition on my Dell XPS M1530 using the GParted live CD. Any clue as to how long it might take? It've been resizing it (220 Gb to 80 Gb) for about 15 minutes now and I wonder if the application is still responding, if it's actually doing something.
[00:03] <KenBW2> LjL: no, i just dont know much :P
[00:03] <Elda> !ubotu Codec
[00:04] <KenBW2> Vincent91: depends how much data is there
[00:04] <f|uke> Vincent91, it could take about 3-6 hrs.
[00:04] <Elda> Meh.... anyone know how to go about getting information on the restricted codec package?  Just reinstalled so adding everything back in :>
[00:04] <Vincent91> About 55 Gb of info on there. 3-6 hrs? Never took that long back when I installed it on my other comp.
[00:04] <LjL> KenBW2, as long as you have the linux kernel, a suitable 3d driver for your video card, and a means of starting programs (a shell), then a binary that's got everything statically linked will do fine.
[00:04] <KenBW2> ubuntu-restriced-extras
[00:04] <blak`> Well thanks to all of you for all the information. I feel very enlightened on partitioning now!
[00:04] <LjL> KenBW2: but that doesn't mean it can work on a different kernel, as that kernel won't even have the slighest idea how to load that binary
[00:05] <Elda> KenBW2, thanks!
[00:05] <f|uke> Well. Maybe it depends on the format. I used it to resize a 150gig NTFS to 130 gig,.. and it took that long
[00:05] <vocx> !codecs > Elda
[00:05] <jvai> long tyme no see, channel!
[00:05] <KenBW2> LjL: im not a programmer so i don't really know how they work, but it makes sense
[00:05] <blak`> OK, new questions... How do I fstab this 6 gig ext3 primary partition to my /home
[00:05] <vocx> KenBW2, it's kinda cool to learn all this stuff as you go.
[00:06] <DasEi1>  http://pastebin.ca/1222217, LjL  >troll
[00:06] <morth_> Hello
[00:06] <KenBW2> vocx: yea that's what i love about Linux - i've learned so much more about computers since i switched
[00:06] <LjL> thanks DasEi1, though we really had no doubt about him to begin with
[00:06] <vassler> help me pls?!
[00:07] <DIL> KenBW2: i feel the same
[00:07] <f|uke> o.O
[00:07] <sjovan> hwy guys, i don't get a ip from my router. i think it could be a wpa issue. running a fresh 8.04 install and i don't really know what to ask for. can some one maby help me?
[00:07] <vassler> how can i remove bass from a mp3
[00:07] <vassler> ?
[00:07] <LjL> vassler, with an equalizer?
[00:07] <KenBW2> vassler: welcome to proprietary formats - what you see is what you get
[00:08] <LjL> KenBW2: well, it's not like you can remove the bass from a Vorbs file, either...
[00:08] <wallrus> nope vocx, i can't even read it.. or 'cd'.. is says i don't have permission
[00:08] <vocx> blak`, http://pastebin.com/m78873abd  instead of /dev/sda1 you could use the uuid
[00:08] <kansan> i have a microsoft mouse, and i would like have it (1) when i click left & right buttons at same time it pastes stuff in the register (2) when i click the middle button it pastes the register.  currently neither works.  microsfot wireless mouse
[00:08] <sjovan> vassler: use the eq...
[00:08] <blak`> vocx: looking now
[00:08] <VSpike> If I have recovered an ext3 fs with ddrescue, but I have a couple of holes (bad sectors), when I do an fsck will it tell me if those holes are in the middle of files?  IOTW, am I in danger of ending up with damaged files _without_being_aware_of_it_?
[00:08] <KenBW2> LjL: thats just a container (i think).  ive long loved the idea of an audio format you can pick bits out of
[00:08] <deathbyninja> does anyone have weird problems with the program windows turning transparent when you maximize them?
[00:08] <LjL> KenBW2: Ogg is a container, Vorbis is a lossy audio format
[00:08] <deathbyninja> only certain parts
[00:09] <KenBW2> LjL: oh yea. does my idea make sense btw?
[00:09] <webas> can anyone please tell how to unrar files not via terminal?
[00:09] <deathbyninja> download linrar
[00:09] <f|uke> deathbyninja, sounds like a compiz setting issue
[00:09] <LjL> KenBW2: of course it does, it's called multi-track audio, been used for decades
[00:09] <vocx> wallrus, did you read my last responses about changing read write? By the way, you do not need to reboot to test this. Just issue the corresponding "mount" commands. Also, instead of using /dev/sda1 use the UUID.
[00:09] <webas> linrar? :) okay i will try
[00:09] <matt__> I have an Ubuntu server running ssh-server. Right now I use a random port for it, but at school the port I am using is blocked, so I can't ssh into the server from school. I know that 20,21,possibly 22 are open. I have been told to never use the "default ports" for security reasons, but if my password it strong, I'll be ok won't i?
[00:09] <vocx> !uuid | wallrus
[00:09] <KenBW2> LjL: is that by definition Open Source?
[00:09] <Shadow__X> hi can someone help me java applets arent working in firefox
[00:10] <LjL> KenBW2: the current agreed-upon definitely of "open source" applies to software, not music
[00:10] <tj83> webas, also, package "rar" is in the repo.. but uncertain of the cli command
[00:10] <deathbyninja> fluke: explain
[00:10] <LjL> definition*
[00:10] <blak`> vocx: i'm still on the live boot of the cd do i need to mount my sda1?
[00:10] <KenBW2> LjL: music *is* software, as long as it's in digital format, right?
[00:10] <LjL> KenBW2: err... no
[00:10] <blak`> vocx: i don't get what you mean for me to do with this pastebin you showed me...?
[00:10] <jasuus> matt__ as long as your password is strong, and your data is not on russias list, youre fine
[00:10] <webas> synaptic and adept havent found anything :(
[00:10] <KenBW2> LjL: is a jpeg not software?
[00:10] <DIL> !audacity
[00:10] <matt__> jasuus: On Russia's list? Oh noes!
[00:10] <LjL> KenBW2: no
[00:11] <LjL> KenBW2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software
[00:11] <tj83> KenBW2, i think "data" would be more correct terminology
[00:11] <KenBW2> LjL: so whats a jpeg?
[00:11] <Agrajag> data
[00:11] <vocx> blak`, I thought you wanted to mount the new partition as /home, so you should put that in the file /etc/fstab   that way, upon reboot the kernel will mount the partitions and you are ready to go.
[00:11] <matt__> jasuus: What about "default" acconts? I log on as matt, so what other things should I perhaps secure?
[00:11] <KenBW2> tj83: fair enough
[00:11] <KenBW2> LjL: open format?
[00:11] <Shadow__X> can someone help me java doesnt work in firefox
[00:11] <blak`> vocx: i can't i don't think.. im on the live cd boot and I can't get to my /sda1 yet?
[00:12] <LjL> KenBW2: "a" jpeg is an digitally coded image, period
[00:12] <DIL> vassler: audacity
[00:12] <KenBW2> LjL: doesn't it have a parent term?
[00:12] <LjL> KenBW2: "JPEG" is a lossy compression format for natural image, encumbered by patents
[00:12] <blak`> vocx: i think i may need to install grub again first huh? since i know have winxp at the beginning of the drive?
[00:12] <LjL> KenBW2, "a" JPEG file is an image, it's not a format.
[00:13] <KenBW2> LjL: right im gonna shut up before i make even more of an ass of myself
[00:13] <vocx> blak`, well, yes you can have access to it immediately, just create a directory and mount it there.   You do not need exactly to reinstall grub because windows is at the beginning of the disc, since in fact grub is at the MBR a reserved space that is not accessible to normal programs or even OS.
[00:13] <morth_> what kind of FTP client do you suggest i use? anyone heard anything good about FileZilla?
[00:13] <jayde_drag0n> can you combine partitions without losing data?
[00:14] <LjL> KenBW2, if you take the divine comedy and put it into ASCII text, that doesn't turn the divine comedy into a "format". it's still the divine comedy, just digitally stored. it's stored *using* a format (ASCII) to encode it.
[00:14] <tj83> blak` lemme understand.. you want to mount /home with a separate partition? if you have trouble getting the answers you need i can try to help /join #seaphor if you like.
[00:14] <tj83> vocx, your welcome also if you would like to make a team effort of it.
[00:14] <jasuus> LjL: interesting format tho
[00:14] <edju> I have a file - /tmp/ssh-JrRTA24190/agent.24190, which cannot be read.  Is that file suspicious?  Anyone know what it's for?
[00:14] <LjL> jasuus: and horribly suited for storing the divine comedy, since it lacks the required accents
[00:15] <vocx> tj83, I saw him first an hour ago... who is helping who?
[00:15] <KenBW2> LjL: so what would you call what i was thinking?
[00:15] <blak`> Well I just moved my / (ubuntu is installed here) to the back of the drive and NTFS is in the front... i'm running ubuntu LIve cd right now...
[00:15] <LjL> KenBW2: what *were* you thinking?
[00:15] <tj83> vocx, i thought you were helping blak` , but he seems a bit confused :)
[00:15] <blak`> I guess I can try to mount in the live cd my moved /?
[00:15] <KenBW2> LjL: the pick-and-choose audio, er, file
[00:15] <LjL> KenBW2: a multi-track audio file
[00:16] <KenBW2> LjL: as a collective term?
[00:16] <blak`> it's ok guys, the more help the better
[00:16] <LjL> KenBW2: a multi-track audio format
[00:16] <vocx> tj83, I am, I was just messing with you. Please take him to your channel.
[00:16] <LjL> KenBW2: actually, many *existing* widely employed formats support multi-track perfectly fine
[00:16] <csilk> edju,  you shoul dbe able to safely delete that file
[00:16] <KenBW2> LjL: as in what do a jpeg, mp3, mpeg, doc etc have in common
[00:16] <LjL> KenBW2: any audio file that contains stereo audio has two tracks - one for right and one for left
[00:16] <csilk> *should be
[00:16] <blak`> Ok I mounted my ubuntu /... so i browse there and run the fstab commands?
[00:16] <LjL> KenBW2: they are formats.
[00:16] <tj83> blak`, please /join #seaphor
[00:16] <vocx> blak`, enter this room #seaphor
[00:17] <Velmont> INTREPID: Hello, -- programs keep crashing. However, when I press the report button in Apport - I finally get to launchpad, there I see many others have the same problem, and I give up. -- Is there a better way? A way of saying "me too" that's easy and will link my infrmation with the other bug? Is my info even uploaded to launchpad? Very often I just go on working when I see there are 10 other bug reports already.
[00:17] <blak`> ok
[00:17] <jayde_drag0n>  can you combine partitions without losing data?
[00:17] <LjL> KenBW2: wait, no, *jpeg, mp3, mpeg, doc* are formats. "A" jpeg, or "AN" mp3, etc, are files. data.
[00:17] <edju> csilk, Yoy know where it's from?  I don't use ssh.
[00:17] <LjL> KenBW2: not everything has a fancy name. data is just called, data.
[00:17] <KenBW2> LjL: i think i was after the formats definition
[00:17] <f|uke> What is the best method to get a remote desktop from my file server?
[00:17] <edju> *Yoy*You
[00:17] <csilk> edju,  if you've never used ssh then no, i have no idea where it came from
[00:17] <Delvien> Can i install FF 2.0 and FF 3.0 at the same time?
[00:18] <LjL> KenBW2: right, but "a" JPEG [image] is not a format. JPEG itself is a format.
[00:18] <KenBW2> LjL: so a file is a file, the way it's stored is a format
[00:18] <LjL> KenBW2: right
[00:18] <DIL> is a rose a hibiscus
[00:19] <f|uke> Meh. Semantics. Don't be a robot.
[00:19] <LjL> KenBW2: or if you want fancier terms, the "file" is "digitally encoded data", and the "format" is "a digital encoding"
[00:19] <webas> why it is so difficult in linux to unrar unzip copy files and folders with many files :|
[00:19] <KenBW2> LjL: ill stick with file and format for now i think :P
[00:19] <LjL> webas: it is?
[00:20] <KenBW2> LjL: btw - are you responsible for LjL-Temp? it's messing wth my tab-completion :P
[00:20] <f|uke> wouldn't the format be "a digital encoding method", and the file would be the encoding itself?
[00:20] <webas> teach me because im quite dissapointed making it via terminal..changing dirs..copying..unraring unziping
[00:20] <LjL> KenBW2: i am, yes
[00:20] <n00b> hey who was i talking to about compiz?
[00:20] <LjL> webas: well, *i* do it via the terminal, *because* it can be much faster than any other way
[00:20] <f|uke> n00b, are you ninja?
[00:21] <n00b> yes
[00:21] <Azhi_Dahaka> ok, i changed the default theme but synaptic refuses to look edecent
[00:21] <f|uke> then it was me :P but you're SOL. I've got to go to class
[00:21] <LjL> webas: if you aren't fond of that, i don't see what's wrong with file-roller (although being a KDE user, there might be a lot of things wrong with it that i don't know about)
[00:21] <n00b> alrighty
[00:21] <n00b> thats cool
[00:21] <f|uke> good luck
[00:22] <wallrus> yay! vocx.. up and running thanks =]
[00:22] <webas> well it is difficult for me :) first i need to go to dir where the file is..then to unrar..then try to copy all files in folders somewhere where i need root privilegies..its very slow process :) it took me 10min each file :D
[00:22] <LjL> webas: wait, you're copying files into some place that you need root privileges to access? *why*?
[00:22] <wallrus> i gotta stop being lazy and read the man files right =\
[00:22] <Logivision> I'm trying to install a windows program on Ubuntu. I have Wine installed. In the middle of the installation it pulls up "Network Neighbourhood" from windows and asks me to select the server from the network. This wont' work of course. Any way around it ?
[00:22] <webas> because thats there the games are :D
[00:23] <LjL> webas: and that's precisely, where? you do know you should never write outside of your home, /usr/local and /opt
[00:23] <LjL> and /etc
[00:23] <Shadow__X> i am having issues with java certain java applets dont work
[00:24] <webas> i know i must copy there :) ljl sadly
[00:24] <n00b> does anyone else know about compiz settings and why they might make windows go all crazy with sections disappearing and what not?
[00:24] <webas> and copy there everyday many times..and so on..
[00:24] <LjL> webas: anyway i don't see what makes it so slow. cd /directory/where/you/need/to/save ; sudo unrar x /path/and/file/to/the/rar/archive
[00:24] <LjL> webas: there, done. and obviously you can use Tab to complete the pathnames, which makes that pretty fat.
[00:24] <LjL> fast, even.
[00:25] <Logivision> anybody ?
[00:25] <LjL> webas: no, you "must" not. you're doing something wrong if you are.
[00:25] <KenBW2> anyone know why my game should look like this: http://4umbqw.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pFaKvYAm8Voq_I2-gHuDGVY4bFqHG7U0d3EpdUTr1Da0cT1WT6leqT28rCCUYTcpGBmKVvH8lW8s/FlightGear.png
[00:25] <harveyd> is there an easy way / possible to assign keyboard shortcuts to focus specific windows, like f2 -> emacs, f3 -> firefox etc
[00:25] <curtis> Logivision, what is the problem?
[00:25] <harveyd> alt+tab gets annoying
[00:25] <webas> i play quake3 .. now im right..am i not? :P
[00:25] <Logivision>  I'm trying to install a windows program on Ubuntu. I have Wine installed. In the middle of the installation it pulls up "Network Neighbourhood" from windows and asks me to select the server from the network. This wont' work of course. Any way around it ?
 because thats there the games are :D
[00:25] <Logivision> whoops extra line
[00:25] <webas> :D
[00:26] <LjL> webas: and why does playing quake3 involve writing to "forbidden" areas daily?
[00:26] <Agrajag> webas: if you're adding mods to quake3, shouldn't you be putting them in ~/.quake3?
[00:26] <webas> maps..helloo.. and i also create maps..so..much testing and stuff..
[00:26] <Agrajag> maps go in ~/.quake3
[00:26] <Agrajag> or ~/.q3a, I don't remember the exact directory name.
[00:26] <n00b> does anyone know what might cause windows to go all funky when i maximize them?
[00:27] <webas> still its in root dir..whole game is :|
[00:27] <Agrajag> no
[00:27] <bobertdos> n00b: Which drivers are you using for your video card?
[00:27] <Memo_> no it isn't
[00:27] <Agrajag> the game looks for maps and mods and stuff in your home directory
[00:27] <LjL> webas: no, of course not. "~" means your home.
[00:27] <VSpike> n00b: funky how?
[00:27] <n00b> bobertdos: radeon
[00:27] <n00b> vspike: it goes transparent to the desktop
[00:27] <bobertdos> n00b: Restricted or proprietary?
[00:28] <webas> hm but the game is there so i need to put maps there...
[00:28] <n00b> bobertdos: default from install. it's a 7000 so it doesn't have any proprietary drivers
[00:28] <Agrajag> webas: no
[00:28] <Memo_> hahah
[00:28] <LjL> webas: if you want to keep believing that, then keep beliving that. we're all telling you that you don't.
[00:28] <Agrajag> webas: I haven't played quake in years, but when I did I put maps, models, etc in my home directory
[00:28] <webas> how to see those .folders?
[00:28] <Memo_> he probably put the game in /
[00:28] <KenBW2> anyone know why my game should look like this: http://4umbqw.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pFaKvYAm8Voq_I2-gHuDGVY4bFqHG7U0d3EpdUTr1Da0cT1WT6leqT28rCCUYTcpGBmKVvH8lW8s/FlightGear.png
[00:29] <Agrajag> webas: ls -a
[00:29] <webas> ye root/usr/local/games/quake3/defrag - maps must be here :D
[00:29] <Agrajag> no, they must not.
[00:29] <bobertdos> n00b: Okay, so it has no restricted drivers, though you could probably still use proprietary ones (from AMD's site). At any rate, what is the output of glxinfo | grep direct (in the terminal)?
[00:29] <hotmonkeyluv> AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGG!!!! LOOK OUT FOR THE MONKEYS!!!!
[00:29] <Xyphy> Can anyone help me out... I can't type ~ in the Terminal but I can type it everywhere else.  I like ~.
[00:29] <Grenyaris> If I were to run out and buy a gigabit nic, which one would I buy for best speed and compatibility with Ubuntu (hardy)?
[00:30] <hotmonkeyluv> Grenyaris, every single nic that i've tried is 100% compatible in ubuntu. even one i found in a dumpster
[00:30] <bobertdos> webas: In a terminal, you can type ls -a [directory] to see all hidden files in the current directory or one you specify.
[00:30] <euxneks> hotmonkeyluv, that's so awesome
[00:30] <hotmonkeyluv> Grenyaris, I don't know about gigabit ones though
[00:30] <euxneks> hotmonkeyluv, dumpster diving for hardware
[00:30] <webas> ye i see but its quite not nice.. :D
[00:30] <hotmonkeyluv> euxneks, heck yeah
[00:30] <euxneks> I actually lol'd
[00:31] <Tu13es> anyone seeing lsusb hanging on 8.10?
[00:31] <hotmonkeyluv> euxneks, I go to dumpsters of huge corporations, just look in them, usually there are some goodies
[00:31] <jak__> hi to all
[00:31] <Azhi_Dahaka> so, nobody knows how to do it?
[00:31] <Xyphy> Anyone know any possible reasons why I cant type tilde in my terminal?
[00:31] <euxneks> hotmonkeyluv, no huge corporations where I live, too bad :P
[00:31] <dr_Willis> hotmonkeyluv,  ive had a few with 'buggy' drivers. :) but i agree over all.. every wired nic ive found has had drivers.
[00:31] <bobertdos> Xyphy: That is admittedly quite odd.
[00:31] <jak__> i've bought a tp-link tl wn321g wifi usb adapter
[00:31] <hotmonkeyluv> euxneks, like a hard drive in an old computer with a MASSIVE porn collection
[00:32] <Xyphy> Yeah no kidding right
[00:32] <n00b> bobertdos: No
[00:32] <Xyphy> It works everywhere else
[00:32] <LjL> webas: you can't see the . folders in Nautilus, the "." means precisely that they're hidden folders. you can see them in the shell, and you also should be able to point Nautilus to them if you type the name in.
[00:32] <Xyphy> ~ see
[00:32] <mophead> #hacklabto
[00:32] <mophead> oops
[00:32] <LjL> Xyphy: keyboard layout is?
[00:32] <hotmonkeyluv> dr_Willis, the funny thing is that I have 3 nics that don't work in windows at all, can't find drivers for the life of me, but work fine in ubuntu by default
[00:32] <Agrajag> You can also hit ctrl-H in nautilus to show hidden files
[00:32] <Azhi_Dahaka> press ctrl+h on nautilus to see hidden folders
[00:32] <jak__> i need to know the chipset name
[00:32] <KDesk> has some one tried amarok2 beta 2 ?
[00:32] <zr0gee> Hey all :p I've got Ubuntu (hardy) dual-booting with Vista atm. Is it possible to boot the 8.10 beta-installer and get it to upgrade my hardy, without messing up the dual-boot-config ?
[00:32] <jak__> how can i do it?
[00:33] <Xyphy> USA
[00:33] <rsc-> anyone use an Apple keyboard for an Ubuntu setup?
[00:33] <LjL> KDesk: better ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[00:33] <rsc-> I'm particularly interested in getting the ctrl-win-alt keys in order
[00:33] <Xyphy> LjL: its on a Lenovo X61... layout is USA
[00:33] <LjL> Xyphy: uhm, i don't remember where the tilde is in the US layout, but perhaps you have a 10x-keys layout set for the terminal with x being the wrong number
[00:33] <LjL> !locales | Xyphy, check
[00:33] <mophead> Hi everyone, have you ever heard of that thing where the toshiba laptop won't recognize the AC adapter?
[00:34] <Xyphy> Thanks all
[00:34] <bobertdos> n00b: then that is why the compiz effects malfunction. Direct rendering is required for that to work. You either need to do some Googling or you need to install the proprietary drivers for your card.
[00:34] <bobertdos> !binary | n00b
[00:34] <bobertdos> !ati | n00b
[00:34] <n00b> bobertdos: thank you
[00:35] <jjulian> hi how can i copy files with root and let the files not be changed to owner root? so that the groups and user who owns this, so the rights, stay how they were originally
[00:35] <k0de> ugh, avoid the ATI cards
[00:35] <KenBW2> LjL: i had a thought, i probably meant Free rather than Open Source?
[00:35] <webas> still unraring unziping copying pasting is hell of the time.. im a human being..not a bot :D im a human being :(
[00:35] <Agrajag> jjulian: cp -p should do it
[00:35] <jvai> i have ati on the thinkpad z60m.. works ok...
[00:36] <zr0gee> I guess beta-questions are a bit offtopic
[00:36] <jjulian> Agrajag, thanks
[00:36] <abe3k> hi guys, say I want to do a simple copy/paste task in nautilus but it requires root permission , isn't there any keyboard combination that'll let me enter the root password instead of going to the terminal and entering sudo ?
[00:36] <voglster> what the gnome printer manager in ubuntu called? how can i start it from cli?
[00:36] <dr_Willis> zr0gee,  thats whats #ubuntu+1 is for
[00:36] <zr0gee> dr_Willis, oh - thank you :)
[00:36] <almostautomated_> rsc- and Memo_: Thanks for the help! :D  I implemented the conf work around and it looks to be working OK now; much appreciated.  Have a great day!
[00:36] <bobertdos> k0de: I have had great success with mine actually. I can use the restricted and proprietary drivers equally well. ;)
[00:36] <dr_Willis> voglster,  ive installed/ran gnome-cups-manager befor
[00:37] <Shadow__X> anyone for java applet issues
[00:37] <jasuus> why is it that i after i chown to root, and set the appropriate permissions, i can click and drag a file to the trash?  It wont let me rm at a terminal tho
[00:38] <bobertdos> Shadow__X: Which flavor of Java are you using?
[00:38] <jasuus> i cant access the file without sudo ... but im able to put it in the trash
[00:38] <jasuus> stupid.
[00:38] <Shadow__X> sun-java 6
[00:38] <abe3k> Say I want to do a simple copy/paste task in nautilus but it requires root permission , isn't there any keyboard combination that'll let me enter the root password instead of going to the terminal and entering sudo ?
[00:38] <Memo_> almostautomated_, you'
[00:38] <bobertdos> Shadow__X: including the sun-java6-plugin?
[00:38] <Memo_> re welcome.
[00:38] <dr_Willis> abe3k,  not that ive seen.
[00:38] <curtis> anyone install need for speed carbon in ubuntu?
[00:38] <curtis> or cedega?
[00:38] <Shadow__X> that wont install i am running 64 bit
[00:39] <abe3k> dr_Willis : ok thanks
[00:39] <bobertdos> Shadow__X: ahh, yes
[00:39] <Shadow__X> what should i do bobertdos
[00:39] <bobertdos> !java64 | Shadow__X
[00:40] <sotec_prod> Best Windows game working in WINE?
[00:40] <jjulian> warcraft 3 ;)#
[00:40] <harveyd> there is no way this is impossible
[00:40] <abe3k> guys which room should I log into to get help about nautilus ?
[00:40] <harveyd> I want to press a keyboard shortcut, and have it focus an application
[00:41] <sotec_prod> besides WoW, or similar games.
[00:41] <Agrajag> abe3k: why are you trying to write to a folder owned by root?
[00:41] <harveyd> really doesnt seem to be possible, which sucks
[00:41] <Killer--Tux> help no sound in zsnes
[00:41] <KDesk> has some one tried amarok2 beta 2 ? I know somebody has.
[00:42] <histo> !anyone | KDesk
[00:42] <abe3k> agrajag : I have openttd and theres a new version online that I've downloaded so I want to overwrite my older files in the /usr/share/games folder
[00:42] <bobertdos> abe3k: If you want, you can run Nautilus with gksudo either in the terminal or in the run menu.
[00:42] <Xyphy> If I change my layout/keyboard model... will the changes take effect immediately?
[00:42] <KDesk> histo: I wat to know the expiriense with amarok 2 beta 2
[00:43] <bobertdos> abe3k: but be careful and do not under any circumstances open Nautilus with plain sudo.
[00:43] <Agrajag> abe3k: did you download and build the source, or did you get a package file?
[00:43] <abe3k> arajag : I downloaded the binaries
[00:43] <histo> !offtopic | KDesk
[00:43] <Agrajag> abe3k: so you have a .deb file, or what?
[00:44] <abe3k> bobertdos : why is that ?
[00:44] <Agrajag> Which package did you get?
[00:44] <abe3k> agrajag : no a zipped archive
[00:44] <bobertdos> !gksudo | abe3k
[00:44] <Xyphy> If I change my layout/keyboard model... will the changes take effect immediately? Or do I have to restart the x client?
[00:44] <Agrajag> It's a pretty bad idea to go messing around with your /usr directory
[00:45] <bobertdos> Xyphy: Eh, it depends
[00:45] <Agrajag> abe3k: Can't you just run the program from your home directory, or remove openttd using the package manager and then istall what you have in /opt or /usr/local?
[00:45] <KDesk> histo: I also dont want the next ubunut nor offtopic
[00:46] <Xyphy> bobertdos: Well I'm changing the layout (trial and error) to see if anything will help fix my tilde issue.  I want to know if I waste my time changing it and checking omitting any other steps.
[00:46] <sotec_prod> I don't know if this is off topic, but I have a need for this, so I'll ask here since it pertains to Ubuntu somewhat. Does anyone know of a GOOD tutorial for replacing XP with Vista without destroying my Ubuntu setup? Same disk, different partitions. Current Ubuntu.
[00:46] <tj111> i had to do a partial-upgrade in intrepid to get today's updates and its been hanging on "Processing triggers for man-db" for about 30 minutes.  Should I just let it keep going, is it ok to kill the process, or what?
[00:46] <abe3k> agrajag : I can run it from my home folder but then I'll be having two version on my ubuntu , one old version which is installed and one unzipped version which I have to navigate to get to
[00:47] <abe3k> arajag : I just want to overwrite my older files with ease
[00:47] <Agrajag> abe3k: so uninstall the one you have, and install the one you downloaded to /usr/local/games
[00:47] <dr_Willis> sotec_prod,  you will need to restore the grub loader, after installing the other os's. Windows also wants to be on the 'first' partition of the drive in most cases.
[00:47] <abe3k> agrajag : ok how do I install ?
[00:47] <bobertdos> Xyphy: Well, I've never had to change my layout, so I'm not certain. Offhand, I don't think a reinitializing X would be necessary.
[00:47] <Agrajag> /usr/local is for stuff not installed by the package manager
[00:47] <Agrajag> I don't know, are there instuctions in the archive?
[00:47] <Xyphy> bobertdos: Thanks.
[00:48] <Agrajag> a file named INSTALL or something similar?
[00:48] <abe3k> agrajag : its a zipped game , I just unzip it and run it, theres no install option
[00:48] <sotec_prod> that's where windows is right now.
[00:48] <Agrajag> abe3k: there is a readme file
[00:49] <abe3k> agrajag: but the one in the repositories installs an older version
[00:49] <deathbyninja> hrmm
[00:49] <Agrajag> abe3k: so uninstall that one, extract this one to /usr/local/games/openttd, and make a symlink from the openttd binary there to /usr/bin/openttd
[00:50] <sotec_prod> grr. Alright, I think I'll give the Vista install a shot. I REALLY want to drool all over dx10 :D
[00:51] <jasuus> vista?
[00:51] <dr_Willis> sotec_prod,  err.. so far from what ive seen DirectX 10 has been a total letdown
[00:51] <jasuus> what is vista
[00:51] <bird_flu> yo guys can anyone give us a hand solving an ndiswrapper problem?
[00:51] <sotec_prod> really?
[00:51] <buffalo> i think its sarcasm
[00:51] <bird_flu> and yes, dx10 is a letdown thusfar
[00:52] <sotec_prod> so the shading goodness and texture awesomeness is not...so...awesome or good?
[00:52] <Xyphy> bobertdos: Let me ask you one more question... When you have an open terminal at the command line usually you have username@computername: $   After the : and before the $, is there supposed to be a ~ there? or is it a -?
[00:52] <jasuus> its a tilde
[00:52] <jasuus> ~
[00:52] <Xyphy> fuck
[00:52] <Xyphy> not for me
[00:52] <case^> rob@rob-desktop:~$
[00:52] <PoisonArrow> Has anyone seen "Pirates of Silicon Valley"?
[00:52] <Pici> Xyphy: It represents your current directory.  And watch the language.
[00:53] <Pici> !ot | PoisonArrow
[00:53] <neeto> I have a DHCP server set up on my computer, and although it gives out an IP address to a computer that wants to connect, it does not forward the DNS information to the client computer. WTF?
[00:53] <case^> PoisonArrow: yes coming to OT?
[00:53] <PoisonArrow> yes
[00:53] <bobertdos> Xyphy: Maybe your home directory isn't properly defined.....
[00:53] <Xyphy> Pici: Sorry... all of my ~ have been replaced with - in terminal
[00:53] <Xyphy> seriously
[00:53] <Xyphy> hmm
[00:54] <Agrajag> Xyphy: what font are you using?
[00:55] <Xyphy> Agrajag: monospace 12
[00:55] <Xyphy> Agrajag: Cant change it either...
[00:55] <Agrajag> you can't change it? Why not?
[00:55] <Xyphy> Dunno... greyed out
[00:55] <roukoun> hi all
[00:56] <NiKeCRu666> hello
[00:56] <Agrajag> Xyphy: Oh, you have "Use the system fixed width font" checked.
[00:56] <Agrajag> Uncheck that and you can set it to whatever you want
[00:56] <morth_> Hello Room
[00:56] <Agrajag> at least that's probably it
[00:56] <Xyphy> YES... thank you Agrajag
[00:56] <Xyphy> Problem fixed
[00:56] <Agrajag> but as far as I know monospace doesn't replace your ~ with -
[00:56] <Xyphy> dunno
[00:56] <Agrajag> so I doubt I've helped you much
[00:56] <Xyphy> Fixed now
[00:56] <Agrajag> oh
[00:56] <Xyphy> Im happy
[00:56] <Agrajag> ok
[00:57] <roukoun> im trying to launch frostwire in my pc but it gives the following error: http://pastebin.com/f100b0e6d... any help appreciated!!!
[00:57] <truebosko> Hi there, is there a way I can delete all directiories name `xx` within a directory, recursive and all?
[00:58] <dr_Willis> truebosko,  some scripting/bash/use of the find command.. can do so..  and no i dont know how off hand. Id have to lookit up/figrue it out. :)
[00:58] <morth_> Could anyone hold my hand with FTP?  im pretty new on it
[00:58] <Xyphy> Agrajag: What is system fixed width font?
[00:58] <dr_Willis> morth_,  why use ftp at all? ssh and sftp can do most transfers
[00:58] <Agrajag> It's just whatever default font ubuntu uses, not sure what the name is
[00:58] <NiKeCRu666> i need som help with my totem player, everytime i try to play a video my computer gets freezed, and i cant even push CTRL+ALT+1  or CRTL+ALT+backspace
[00:58] <KenBW2> can anyone suggest a good game for Ubuntu?
[00:59] <truebosko> dr_Willis: Good point, I'll tinker arund
[00:59] <NiKeCRu666> KenBW2, OPENARENA
[00:59] <dr_Willis> morth_,  i would read up on ssh, and scp then.. and tell the channel what you are trying to do exactly.
[01:00] <morth_> when your talking in read is that a PM?
[01:00] <morth_> red*
[01:00] <Pici> morth_: No, it just hilights to let you know someone has mentioned your na,e.
[01:00] <Pici> morth_: your name, sorry.
[01:00] <morth_> oh ok
[01:01] <Kattollikisd> how can I install the wbar in 8.04?
[01:01] <roukoun> im trying to launch frostwire in my pc but it gives the following error: http://pastebin.com/f100b0e6d... any help appreciated!!!
[01:02] <n00b> what is the default root password?
[01:02] <dr_Willis> n00b,  thjere is none
[01:02] <n00b> ok
[01:02] <Pici> !root | n00b
[01:03] <n00b> so i can't log in as root at all?
[01:03] <n00b> i can't su root?
[01:03] <Pici> n00b: read the link, use sudo.
[01:03] <n00b> ok i figured it out
[01:04] <roukoun> anyone?
[01:04] <the_dude> my ubuntu games dont have any sound, and yesterday they had. im using them alone, and my sound is ok, but they dont play;.....
[01:04] <dr_Willis> n00b,  the 2 are different things.. :) you can switch to root.. yes.
[01:04] <voraistos> Hi I want to compress some uncompressed videos *think extremely large files*, however I want a file compression system, like bz2, NOT video compression like mpg4 or similar... Is this worth it?
[01:04] <con-man> n00b: you could always type "su" in terminal if you dislike using sudo for every command
[01:05] <KenBW2> con-man: whats the difference?
[01:05] <con-man> n00b: in Ubuntu its "sudo su" I think
[01:05] <Agrajag> sudo -s
[01:05] <con-man> it makes it a root terminal
[01:05] <dr_Willis> voraistos,  is large = 1gb or 100gb?
[01:05] <n00b> Question: why would the ati drivers not be able to detect what version of Xfre86 i'm using
[01:05] <KenBW2> con-man: i mean between su and sudo
[01:05] <voraistos> more like 100gb
[01:05] <dr_Willis> do NOT use 'sudo su' :) its redundant.
[01:05] <voraistos> use "su -"
[01:05] <roukoun> im trying to launch frostwire in my pc but it gives the following error: http://pastebin.com/f100b0e6d... can anyone help me?
[01:06] <dr_Willis> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[01:06] <con-man> KenBW2: typing "su" in a terminal makes that terminal a root terminal, thus you no longer have to prefix commands with "sudo" when typing in that terminal
[01:06] <dr_Willis> voraistos,  su dosent work like that on ubuntu by default either
[01:06] <astrollama> histo, I'm trying to do a dist-upgrade, I have an ethernet connection of 100 Mb, but the download of the files isn't going faster than 20 kb (kilo bit, yes, bit)
[01:06] <astrollama> anyone have any tips?
[01:06] <Kattollikisd> how can I install the wbar in 8.04?
[01:06] <dr_Willis> 'The command sudo -i is the equivalent to the 'su -' command.
[01:07] <dr_Willis> !info wbar
[01:07] <punzada> roukoun, try going to into synpatic and reinstalling any of the java-6 packages you have
[01:07] <voraistos> dr_Willis: this gives a clean root login, a terminal in X wont be able to lauch graph apps with this, but you can't be more root than this :)
[01:07] <dr_Willis> Kattollikisd,  go download/install the souce i guess.
[01:07] <bobertdos> !find wbar
[01:07] <punzada> and/or make sure you have all of the normal ones checked off
[01:07] <thechitowncubs> I'm having trouble resizing my Vista partition, any advice?
[01:07] <dr_Willis> voraistos,  read that url.. it explains the issues with the different ways.. in short.. its best to use 'sudo -i' or sudo -s, for non gui apps.
[01:08] <dr_Willis> thechitowncubs,  i let vista resize its own partitions.. it does it faster then ubuntu does.
[01:08] <dystopia> what is a normal value for glxgears + gma 3100? i'm getting only 200
[01:08] <thechitowncubs> dr_Willis: how can you do that?
[01:08] <dang503> hey all
[01:08] <Kattollikisd> dr_Willis, Sorry I did not understand you...
[01:08] <dang503> wonder if someone could help with a small RoR issue and passenger
[01:08] <dr_Willis> thechitowncubs,  boot to vista..  check out the drive manager stuff.. it has a resize feature
[01:08] <voraistos> dr_Willis I agree sudo is the way to go... but on some machines the only user is root and I always su - to get a clean login. oh, well :P
[01:09] <dang503> i was following this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RubyOnRails
[01:09] <IamSOG> is it possible to use a Debian Command or somethig to update my Grub in Xubuntu ?
[01:09] <dr_Willis> Kattollikisd,  if the package is not in the repos.. and you cant find a package for it.. then you compile it from source.
[01:09] <dang503> but when i try to load the rails app, i get a passenger error
[01:09] <thechitowncubs> dr_Willis: appreciate it
[01:09] <dang503> saying rails framework v 2.1.0 failed to load, with the error message: RubyGem version error: activesupport(2.1.1 not = 2.1.0)
[01:11] <IamSOG> is there a way to update my Grub under Xubuntu ?
[01:11] <Dr_Willis_> IamSOG,  clarify what you wish to do with it.. you can always edit the menu.lst all you want..
[01:11] <Explo> IamSOG: grub is the bootloader, y ou can edit it, but you cant really update it
[01:11] <voraistos> So, drWillis, know if compressing that stuff of mine to bz2 is worth a try ?
[01:12] <IamSOG> um... I see
[01:12] <voraistos> dr_Willis
[01:12] <IamSOG> I just need to boot a iso file, but my version can't seem to do it
[01:12] <Dr_Willis_> voraistos,  i doubt if you gain much.. try it and see on a single test case.
[01:12] <truebosko> What's the correct way to update my Python in Ubuntu?
[01:12] <IamSOG> my Grub version is 0.97ubuntu4 .... that sounds old  :D or is it ?
[01:12] <Dr_Willis_> I dident think 'booting an iso file' was doable in a general way - only with some specific kernel.tricks
[01:12] <comicinker> hi! a my problem: can I change the partitions name from /dev/sda2 -> /dev/sda4 with fdisk?
[01:12] <Explo> truebosko: try sudo apt-get update python
[01:13] <truebosko> Explo: No, update doesn't work like that
[01:13] <Dr_Willis_> comicinker,  you dont change partition 'names' like that..     why are you even trying to?
[01:13] <bobertdos> truebosko: sudo apt-get update (to make sure the mirrors are current) && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:14] <NiKeCRu666> please i need som help, how do i reinstall my gstreamer (video) drivers?
[01:14] <truebosko> bobertdos: I've odne an apt-get update, but it doesn't seem Python 2.6 is available in the sources yet, hmm
[01:14] <Swidgen> i've got a hdd with two hidden trash folders, and when i click the trash icon in the lower right of the screen and then do empty trash, one of the folders doesn't get emptied
[01:14] <comicinker> Dr_Willis_: I have been playing around with partition sizes. now gparted my former home partition (sda4) to sda2. I must revert that name
[01:15] <n00b> does utorrent have a linux port?
[01:15] <comicinker> understood?
[01:15] <Dr_Willis_> n00b,  it works with wine..
[01:15] <bobertdos> truebosko Oh, you're looking for 2.6 See, Ubuntu does not roll out updates mid-life unless they are security/bug fixes.
[01:15] <truebosko> bobertdos: Ah thank you, thatm akes sense
[01:15] <n00b> Dr_Willis_ what do you recommend for ubuntu?
[01:15] <Dr_Willis_> comicinker,  only way i can think to do that would be to add 2 parttions ahead of that partition.
[01:15] <n00b> azureus got way heavy in the past 2 years
[01:15] <Swidgen> n00b: i like rtorrent fwiw
[01:15] <Dr_Willis_> n00b,  use whatever you like. :)
[01:16] <Dr_Willis_> wine utorrent.exe works for me, ktorrent works.  others proberly work
[01:16] <roukoun> im trying to launch frostwire in my pc but it gives the following error: http://pastebin.com/f100b0e6d... can anyone help me?
[01:16] <voraistos> eeeek. My gf uses windows as well as ubuntu on her PC... the / is mounted on W automatically, and the drive is filled with weirdly named folders with dlls and setup.exes in them... any idea why microsoft tries to screw up a FS that is not even supported natively on their os ?
[01:16] <bobertdos> truebosko Of course, you can always compile if you wish.
[01:16] <comicinker> Dr_Willis_: in fdisk you can assert the number before creating a partition...
[01:16] <Dr_Willis_> roukoun, be sure you got the actual sun java installed.
[01:17] <truebosko> bobertdos: Yeah, my one issue with that is I have to remove python 2.5 package right? I'm just worried about future collission issues and such
[01:17] <Dr_Willis_> comicinker,  but for existing partitions...  im not sure thats a good thing to be playing with.
[01:17] <truebosko> I don't mind compiling from source, but with Ubuntu I fear doing that .. :-)
[01:17] <comicinker> ok
[01:17] <astrollama> anyone know how I can change my software sources to download from a brazilian server? I am trying to click on it, but it won't change!
[01:17] <jak__> how to remove a package installed on my hd from a livecd??
[01:17] <jak__> i think i have to use fakeroot
[01:17] <jak__> but i don't know how
[01:18] <genii> chroot
[01:18] <Swidgen> astrollama: add it to your sources.list maybe?
[01:18] <bobertdos> truebosko: Meh, trust me, it can't be any worse than Alpha/Beta testing :D
[01:18] <NiKeCRu666> please i need som help, how do i reinstall my gstreamer (video) drivers?
[01:18] <jak__> genii: ups :D
[01:18] <roukoun> Dr_Willis: look at the 28 and 30 lines of the pastebin... i have the 0.6 version installed and it requires 0.4!
[01:19] <truebosko> bobertdos: hehe
[01:19] <voraistos> apt-cache search gstreamer | grep gstreamer
[01:19] <astrollama> swidgen, thanks for the suggestion, ill try it out
[01:19] <Swidgen> astrollama: do so with caution because i'm not 100% sure :)
[01:19] <voraistos> copy/paste the result after typing apt-get install
[01:19] <voraistos> :)
[01:19] <Dr_Willis_> roukoun,  trying it now with my java.. lets see.. where did ya get frostwire from
[01:20] <Dr_Willis_> roukoun,  using frostwire just downloaded from the frostwire homepage, and  [java = 1.6.0_06] works here.
[01:21] <Dr_Willis_> roukoun,   java -version java version "1.6.0_06" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_06-b02)
[01:22] <NiKeCRu666> voraistos, this is what i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/55145/
[01:22] <b3lorixx> What program can burn a AVI file to a disc and play in all DVD players?
[01:22] <roukoun> Dr_Willis: actually it appeared since i uodated my ubuntu to 8.04... i have the same problem with vmware
[01:22] <NiKeCRu666> voraistos, was that about gstreamer for me?
[01:23] <voraistos> IT WAS FOR ANYONE WHO NEEDS TO INSTALL GSTREAMER, I GUESS IT WAS YOU :d
[01:23] <voraistos> ops
[01:23] <voraistos> sorry
[01:23] <voraistos> :D
[01:23] <NiKeCRu666> voraistos, haha :D thank you :D
[01:23] <NiKeCRu666> voraistos, i need to install gtreamer drivers
[01:23] <NiKeCRu666> o r whatever it mean, how can I reainstall them?
[01:24] <voraistos> thats the problem when you type stuff on the computer you're not looking at :D
[01:24] <voraistos> I'll take a look t your paste in a second
[01:24] <Prose> hey, I was wondering if hard drive failure was preceded by detectable symptoms, like they do with volcanoes
[01:24] <NiKeCRu666> voraistos, i worte this on console, apt-cache search gstreamer | grep gstreamer
[01:25] <voraistos> oh yes :d this is just a search :D
[01:25] <voglster> Dr_Willis_, hey question for you about cups printing... im trying to print to a lanier printer... I try and print everything seems fine however nothing comes from the printer... where can i check for errors?
[01:25] <Dr_Willis_> voglster,  /var/log should be some cups logs.
[01:25] <Azlx> problem here, im trying to transfer some files from my ipod, opening it like a flashdrive, to a folder that is locked, how do i go about giving myself admin abilities?
[01:25] <voraistos> the idea is to look for the packages, select the names, copy, then paste after typing apt-get install [paste the stuff here]
[01:25] <Dr_Willis_> voglster,  you can set cups to have verbvose logging for even more info also i belive
[01:26] <NiKeCRu666> uhmn
[01:26] <roukoun> Dr_Willis: any ideas?
[01:26] <Dr_Willis_> roukoun,  not really.  I never upgrade.. i always do clean istalls..
[01:26] <DasEi3>  Azlx:sudo chown <urUsername>   /path/to/ipodfolder/folder
[01:26] <voraistos> so, what i believe you need is all the gstreamer plugins. bad, ugly, etc :)
[01:26] <roukoun> Dr_Willis: ok...
[01:26] <Dr_Willis_> bbl
[01:26] <spiritssight> Do you goes know how "RAGE 128 PRO AGP" does with ubuntu?
[01:27] <NiKeCRu666> voraistos, cuz i have problems with my Totem player, every time i start playing a video, my machine gets freezed and stop responding
[01:27] <DasEi3> spiritssight:which exact model ? 9200,  9800...
[01:27] <voraistos> hmm
[01:27] <android6011> what are the cons of using wubi to install ubuntu rather than a normal install and making a dual boot system?
[01:28] <amason_> android6011: NTFS
[01:28] <voraistos> have you paid a look to the multimedia selector in gnome ?
[01:28] <android6011> amason_: does it really affect ubuntu that much though?
[01:28] <NiKeCRu666> multimedia selector???
[01:28] <Prose> in any case, besides fsck and badblocks, anything else I should be running to check hard drive health ?
[01:28] <b3lorixx> ﻿What program can burn a AVI file to a disc and play in all DVD players?
[01:28] <gauch0> i need to assign to pidgin a "rule" on connect...
[01:28] <voraistos> (and, what happened between "the video works" and "the video crashes the machine" ?)
[01:28] <amason_> android6011: NTFs is pretty crap :)
[01:29] <NiKeCRu666> voraistos, no, i dont think so, how do i do that?
[01:29] <spiritssight> I don't know, the person that told me the specs does not know much about hte system, it looks they copyed from windows what the stuff was but not all the information
[01:29] <android6011> amason_: what is the recommended filesystem? ext3?
[01:29] <voraistos> It should be in the system>preferences menu
[01:29] <spiritssight> if this makes any differents it says 4xTMDS
[01:29] <amason_> android6011: well basically you will run EXT3 on top of NTFS if i am not mistaken
[01:29] <amason_> so you have  the overhead of 2 filesystems
[01:29] <DasEi3> !who|spiritssight:
[01:29] <jvai> b3lorixx, look @ DeVeDe to convert .avi media into .iso then burn the .iso to dvd disc
[01:29] <taget> not really a ubuntu ? but anyone havea feed other than fox the the presidential debates tonight ?
[01:30] <voraistos> if it is not, then it is probably being hidden by default, so you need to edit the menus *well, tick a box :) )
[01:30] <Azlx> DasEi3 you rock!!!! :D thanks a ton.
[01:30] <bugaloo> does anybody use ubuntu-eee (for asus eeePC)? I'd like to know what is the correct keyboard layout on ubunto for eeepc.
[01:30] <android6011> amason_: oh i see. but what if you do a normal install, is ext3 the better of the file systems?
[01:30] <dft> hello, when I select an emerald theme it doesn't take effect
[01:30] <b3lorixx> jvai: can that ISO be played as a movie in DVD players
[01:30] <ryans> Hello, I have a strange issue going on with y laptop. When I am running off battery power and using my wireless card and running flash in firefox my laptop freezes.
[01:30] <DasEi3> spiritssight:so you're not sitting in front of that machine /can't reach it ?
[01:30] <dft> metacity themes work fine
[01:30] <ryans> *with my
[01:30] <dft> and I have advanced desktop effects running
[01:30] <amason_> android6011: ext3 is fine, i use reiser but if your just starting out it doesn't make much different. Basically WUBI is fine ,but it has its limitations
[01:30] <solidturtle> hey everyone, i'm having dificulties getting my wacom intous 3 pad to work with ubuntu
[01:30] <DasEi3> Azlx: like rocking on, np
[01:30] <spiritssight> !tab
[01:31] <jvai> b3lorixx,  yes, the iso will be ok, just be mindful of + or - discs
[01:31] <android6011> amason_: ya i typically use reiserfs too. im not really starting out i was just wondering what those wubi limiations were
[01:31] <amason_> android6011: as long as you understand a wubi install will be slower, and you are subject to the limitations of windows and NTFS its fine
[01:31] <Ryan52> will apport-cli send an email? or does it use some other method?
[01:31] <ryans> Hello, I have a strange issue going on with y laptop. When I am running off battery power and using my wireless card and running flash in firefox my laptop freezes.
[01:31] <voglster> im trying to print to an ip printer that is PS compatible... its setup in cups correctly ppd right from linuxprinting... cups reports print job successful... yet the printer doesnt print anything... anyone have any ideas?
[01:32] <spiritssight> DasEi3: No I don't have the system, I have to make a decition if I want it or not, I don't want to take it if its not going to be good to run ubuntu on
[01:32] <voraistos> ryans, don't use flash then. and get a proper wireless card (<unless you already have one :D )
[01:33] <DasEi3> spiritssight:liitle hard to determine: the radeon's below 9500 won't do the propitary drivers, but the standard out-of the box drivers do 'em all
[01:33] <ryans> That's the lamest help I've ever heard.
[01:33] <FFEMTcJ> Ryan52: it compiles a crash report in /var/crash
[01:33] <ryans> And what's a "proper" wireless card?
[01:33] <solidturtle> i'm trying to install my wacom pad but i can't save the xorg.conf file when i add in the lines for the wacom pad
[01:33] <voraistos> flash for linux sucks even more than for windows, and there is nothing we can do about it. Also web browsers tend to crash easily for some reason.
[01:33] <Ryan52> woah. your like everywhere!
[01:34] <mitnick> server irc.fullnetwork.org
[01:34] <ryans> It freezes the whole system,.
[01:34] <Ryan52> FFEMTcJ: okay, and what does it do with this report?
[01:34] <DasEi3> solidturtle:use sudo gedit
[01:34] <volrath> hey, anyone here using the 8.10 beta?
[01:34] <DasEi3> !ibex
[01:34] <voglster> spiritssight, if you are wondering about a radeon 9000 ish.. i have a laptop with one... works out of the box but the ATI drivers dont.. only iddue i have is I cant get the damn svideo out working (yet ;-))
[01:34] <voglster> issue*
[01:34] <volrath> yah, Ibex, is anyone useing it?
[01:34] <solidturtle> DasEi3: ok, i'll try that, thanks
[01:34] <ryans> Using 8.04 still.
[01:35] <volrath> becuase I decided to try out the Ibex beta, and everything works great, except when I try to play a video file, movie player and VLC just close
[01:35] <spiritssight> Ok, thanks
[01:35] <spiritssight> DasEi3: ok thanks for yiour help\]
[01:36] <DasEi3> np
[01:36] <Pici> volrath: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid/8.10 support/discussion.
[01:36] <dft> I've installed emerald and the engine but the imported themes aren't taking effect, any ideas what's up?
[01:36] <NiKeCRu666> voraistos, i dont know what you were refering to =/
[01:36] <voraistos> ryans, update, upgrade, use a different OS, fill bug reports, learn about computer insecurity and hack adobe.
[01:36] <ryans> Ok, you aren't helpful.
[01:37] <voraistos> NiKeCRu666: if you cannot see the entry in the menu, the you need to edit the menus *right click on the menu and select edit)
[01:37] <ryans> Anyone else wanna try and help with this issue?
[01:37] <Dragonbite> what's the issue? (just got here)
[01:37] <voglster> ryans, whats the issue
[01:37] <ryans> Big block coming up
[01:38] <ryans> Hello, I have a strange issue going on with y laptop. When I am running off battery power and using my wireless card and running flash in firefox my laptop freezes.
[01:38] <ryans> Thank you text cache.
[01:38] <Dragonbite> totally non-responsive? even after a while?
[01:38] <voglster> ryans, complete lockup? as in have to yank the batt/hold power button for 5 seconds? or just a pause then back up and running
[01:39] <voraistos> NikeCRu666: found it ?
[01:39] <ryans> Complete lockup as in have to reboot.
[01:39] <voglster> ryans, no clue ;-)
[01:39] <CaptainMorgan> my screen scrambles when I close the lid of my laptop... almost like it wants to go to screensaver - I go to reopen it and I hit a button trying to clear the mess but nothing happens... I have to reboot every time...
[01:40] <Dragonbite> wonder if it is part of your powersetting turning down your CPU too low for Flash to continue?
[01:40] <Rave1_> ryans  a lotof laptopsgoto apower saving mode  on battery dropping CPU down somewhat
[01:40] <voglster> ryans, have you tried different versions of flash? theres a free one and a non free one...
[01:40] <PoisonArrow> Ok, I have a script that I want to run on startup and in that script it contains the "sudo" command. Is that going to want my password when its run or will it be fine? Also, where do I put the script to run on startup thanks
[01:40] <ryans> I've already turned acpi off and uninstalled the powernowd progrqam.
[01:41] <Hoffer> hi, i am trying to boot Ubuntu using Wubi on my XPS M1730 and i think my hard drive is the problem
[01:41] <voglster> shudder... wubi
[01:41] <Hoffer> yea... i know
[01:41] <genii> voglster: Exactly, yes
[01:41] <Pidgin> wats ubuntu written in/
[01:41] <dr_Willis> PoisonArrow,  it will also depend on what command you are trying to run, You may want to use gksu instead
[01:41] <genii> Pidgin: C
[01:41] <CaptainMorgan> my screen scrambles when I close the lid of my laptop... almost like it wants to go to screensaver - I go to reopen it and I hit a button trying to clear the mess but nothing happens... I have to reboot every time...
[01:41] <DasEi3>  PoisonArrow: you would have to put a request for the pw and then give it into the script // you can use !bum or rc.local to start it at boot
[01:41] <voraistos> read the logs and file a bug report. or pastebin here see if there is a flash/firefox/acpi guru around. As i said before, flash is crap, and this extremely cpu-intensive onsense tends to crash firefox on big systems, so with less power it will only makes things worse (even though it shouldn't)
[01:41] <DasEi3> !bum
[01:41] <voglster> Pidgin, mostly C
[01:41] <genii> Pidgin: For the most part
[01:42] <PoisonArrow> dr_Willis, I see. What is the difference between the two
[01:42] <CaptainMorgan> my visual effects are set to None and in the Screensaver and power settings I have them set to "Blank Screen"
[01:42] <dr_Willis> PoisonArrow,  one is for gui apps.
[01:42] <dr_Willis> !gksu | PoisonArrow
[01:42] <Skky> quick question - if I wanted to turn off eth0/eth1 permamently, is there a command I could use or do I have to modify the interfaces file?
[01:42] <CaptainMorgan> yet it appears to want to find a screensaver for some reason...
[01:42] <CaptainMorgan> or that scrambly mess
[01:42] <Hoffer> voglster: it shouldn't be a problem tho, i think the problem is with ubuntu...
[01:43] <DasEi3> Skky: sudo ifdown ethX
[01:43] <Azlx> how do i modify the color of my name in chat?
[01:43] <PoisonArrow> dr_Willis, I's not for a graphical program, its for my wireless driver
[01:43] <spiritssight> Any one know if "Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet Adapter(LNE100TX v4)" would work
[01:43] <ryans> Well I don't think it's written to a log.
[01:43] <DasEi3> Azlx: pidgin ?
[01:43] <dr_Willis> PoisonArrow,  tell the channel exactly WHAT is is you are trying to run then.. rc.local may be the best place for it
[01:43] <voglster> Hoffer, whats your issue
[01:43] <Skky> DasEi3: and that will keep it turned off even through restarts until I turn it back on?
[01:43] <Azlx> yeah, pidgin
[01:43] <ryans> System freeze means it wont beable to do a thing.
[01:44] <ryans> I've tried everything to.
[01:44] <ryans> If there is a log, where would it be?
[01:44] <DasEi3> Skky: no, no over restart
[01:44] <dr_Willis> logs are normally in /var/log
[01:44] <ryans> I'll give it a gander.
[01:44] <Hoffer> my issue is that I try and run Ubuntu using Wubi and when i select Ubuntu it starts to load and then takes me to this command line prompt kinda thing
[01:44] <voglster> ryans, have you tried different veriosns of flash? is it only with flash?... dont open youtube when on bettery? :-P
[01:44] <Skky> DasEi3: is there a command to keep it off over restart?
[01:44] <PoisonArrow> Well, Im trying to run a hacked version of my rtl8187b driver for my wireless card because it is not supported. So I put it into a script that loads the drivers, sets the essid and password, and starts the dhcp command to get an I.P. and in the process I need to use the sudo command
[01:44] <DasEi3> Azlx: pidgin>preferences>plugins-list, there you can find it
[01:44] <ircbuddy> What resolution is best for displaying the login screen? im on 1024X something and it doesnt display everything
[01:44] <dr_Willis> Hoffer,  says  login: or somting like that?
[01:45] <Azlx> k thx again
[01:45] <voglster> Hoffer, whats the prompt
[01:45] <Hoffer> no it doesn't get that far
[01:45] <pdlnhrd> i tried to install the propritary ati drivers and now when i reboot i X can't start up and drops me to a login screen does anyone know the command to reset the drivers to the origial so i can get X to start... i have two radeon 4850 with two monitors..
[01:45] <DasEi3> Skky: you would either have to use a script or choose another way to disable it permantly
[01:45] <dr_Willis> ircbuddy,  the res shouldnt matter muyc.. unless you are using some weird gdm theme.  1024xXXX should work fine.
[01:45] <voraistos> ryans: there should be some X logs, and definitely some kernel logs. If the system hangs, the kernel has something to do in it. It could very well be related to some proprietary wireless driver that messes up the system, and once flash kicks in, crashes it for good.
[01:45] <luisp797__> anyone know how to configure vncserver I installed the package and rebooted but I can't vnc into the pc please help
[01:45] <Skky> DasEi3: editing the interfaces file?
[01:45] <ircbuddy> dr_Willis:  its not doing something righ then
[01:46] <Magdin77> help register
[01:46] <dr_Willis> luisp797_,  which vncserver did you install?  i normally install vnc4server, and i ssh in, then run the vncserver command. vnc normally does NOT auto-startup as other 'services' do
[01:46] <genii> !register | Magdin77
[01:46] <DasEi3> Skky: comment it, yes should work
[01:46] <CaptainMorgan> anyone ?
[01:46] <dr_Willis> luisp797_,  you can set up vnc do to that.. but thats not the 'standard' way to use it
[01:47] <Hoffer1> sorry i am back
[01:47] <Hoffer1> got disconnected for some reason
[01:47] <luisp797__> how do i start vnc server>
[01:48] <ircbuddy> dr_Willis:  what do i do
[01:48] <dr_Willis> luisp797_,  'vncserver'
[01:48] <gingyu1> 好多人啊
[01:48] <fuzzypig> I have two computers connected to each other by a single ethernet cable. How do I network them?
[01:48] <ryans> Yep nothing label firefox
[01:48] <dr_Willis> ircbuddy,  no idea. Ive not had the issue you could try some other gdm themes.
[01:48] <ryans> *lebeled
[01:48] <Hoffer1> vogsler: i can't remember what the prompt was
[01:48] <Pici> !zh | gingyu1
[01:48] <ryans> >.<;
[01:48] <dr_Willis> fuzzypig,  it is a peer-peer cable? or you using gigibit nic's ?
[01:49] <ircbuddy> dr_Willis:  ok il try one. one sec
[01:49] <fuzzypig> It's two NICs connected to each other by a cable.
[01:49] <fuzzypig> Will that work?
[01:49] <DasEi3>  fuzzypig:patch cable ? share internet ? see :
[01:49] <MRcheese> !d
[01:49] <MRcheese> !C
[01:49] <DasEi3> !nfs
[01:49] <MRcheese> 1C++
[01:49] <ryans> And it looks like acpi is still running, lovely.
[01:49] <voraistos> fuzzypig: is your cable twisted, if it is not (just like standard cables you use with your routers), then it won't work.
[01:49] <ircbuddy> dr_Willis: nope nothing.,
[01:49] <MRcheese> !C++
[01:49] <FloodBot2> MRcheese: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:49] <Pici> MRcheese: What are you trying to do?
[01:49] <tylrd> fuzzypig--> depends if your nic card has an autosense, if it does not, get a switch or a hub in between them
[01:50] <DasEi3>  fuzzypig:  patch cable ?
[01:50] <MRcheese> Pici: programming languages D,C,C++
[01:50] <DasEi3>  tylrd:even autosense needs a patch for direct link
[01:50] <Pici> MRcheese: Try their channels: #d , ##C and ##C++
[01:51] <Hoffer1> hi, i am trying to boot Ubuntu using Wubi on my XPS M1730 and i think my hard drive is the problem, i know Wubi is a problem for some of you, but i don't think thats the problem, i think Ubuntu won't run with my hard drive
[01:51] <tylrd> DasEi3--> they will work if the nic autosense the tx and rx and will adjust accordingly
[01:51] <fuzzypig> I don't know what a patch cable is.
[01:51] <genii> Interesting that C is a ## channel and not official
[01:51] <fuzzypig> It's a cat5 cable.
[01:51] <fuzzypig> A standard ethernet cable.
[01:51] <tylrd> Hoffer1--> you run windows then click on wubi.exe to install
[01:51] <dr_Willis> fuzzypig,  you can just connect a normal cable that way.
[01:51] <Hoffer1> i did that
[01:52] <fuzzypig> I think it's twisted though.
[01:52] <dr_Willis> fuzzypig,  you must use a hub/router/switch, or a crossover/patch cable.. OR use gigibit network cards
[01:52] <Hoffer1> tylrd:the problem is when i try and boot Ubuntu
[01:52] <fuzzypig> I have a switch.
[01:52] <DasEi3> fuzzypig:  if you hold the two plugs next to each other, are colors of wires same on botch=no patch cable   , different=patch
[01:52] <dr_Willis> fuzzypig,  plug both pc's into the switch then.. set both up with static ips,   see if they can ping each other.. if so.. they are networked.
[01:52] <tylrd> Hoffer1--> what happens when you boot ubuntu?
[01:53] <voraistos> dr_Willis I knew it :P twisted just didnt seem right, crossover... right :D /me tries to remember
[01:53] <DasEi3>  tylrd:that would only work on gigabit-cards
[01:53] <dr_Willis> voraistos,  'twisted pair' means the wires in the cable twist around. for better shielding.. I think
[01:53] <Hoffer1> tylrd: it starts to work but then it takes me to this sort of command prompt
[01:53] <tylrd> DasEi3--> incorrect, there are 10/100Mbps nic cards that can do autosense
[01:53] <ircbuddy> Anyone ever had a problem with bad screen resolution at login
[01:53] <Hoffer1> tylrd: i can't remember what it was called
[01:53] <Hoffer1> tylrd: some safe bug something or other
[01:54] <tylrd> Hoffer1--> at boot did you get to select which os to boot from?
[01:54] <fuzzypig> problem with that: the second 'computer' is a print server which is being problematic. It's the size of my fist, and the only way to configure a static IP is to connect to it first.
[01:55] <Hoffer1> tylrd: yes i chose to boot Ubuntu
[01:55] <voraistos> dr_Willis: yes I actually know that, but in crossover cables, you need to invert some of them, leading to twisted wrists :D
[01:55] <Oko2> Is this a techincal support for Ubuntu
[01:55] <Hoffer1> oko2: yes
[01:55] <Pici> Oko2: Yes.
[01:55] <Elda> ys
[01:55] <Elda> *Yes
[01:55] <Hoffer1> lol
[01:55] <Oko2> Good
[01:55] <voraistos> this is geek support, even better than technical support :)
[01:55] <Elda> Indee
[01:55] <tylrd> Hoffer1--> if it didnt work, try to boot to your xp again and do a re-double click the wubi.exe
[01:55] <Elda> d
[01:55] <Oko2> I do not nedone
[01:56] <Oko2> The trafic is incredible?
[01:56] <luisp797_>  i started the vnc4server but I can't remote in any ideas?
[01:56] <Hoffer1> tylrd: i have vista....*cry**shame*
[01:56] <Elda> I dualboot vista too, don't worry :P
[01:56] <hvgotcodes> How can i decrease how fast my load cycle count increases without using hddparm?
[01:56] <DasEi3>  tylrd:autosense means figuring half/full duplex , 10/100 mps, never saw a card that can
[01:56] <Elda> But Im slowly moving to sole Kubuntu dependancy :D
[01:56] <Oko2> I have lost:j #ubunutu
[01:56] <dr_Willis> voraistos,  ;)
[01:56] <tylrd> Hoffer1--> that should work too, i dont have vista so i have not tested that
[01:56] <Pici> Oko2: This is #ubuntu, do you have a support question?
[01:57] <dr_Willis> luisp797_,  you must edit the .vnc/xstartup to run a window manager thats installed on the system.. check the logs in .vnc also..
[01:57] <Hoffer1> tylrd: so you want me to try and reinstall wubi?
[01:57] <fuzzypig> Do I have to configure a static IP to connect to the switch?
[01:57] <fuzzypig> It's a DYNEX 10BASE-T Ethernet Hub
[01:57] <ryans> Hmmm, wonder if 8.10 would work better.
[01:57] <Hoffer1> tylrd: but it was already a legit fresh install of wubi
[01:57] <dr_Willis> luisp797_,  be sure to quit/rerun the vncserver,  after editing that file.. you can accidnetly start 2+ vncservers by mistake.. also use the ip# to connect.. often the hostname wont work.. ie;   vncviewer 127.0.0.1:1
[01:57] <tylrd> Hoffer1--> why not, its not that overly difficult
[01:58] <fuzzypig> Oops, disconnected
[01:58] <tylrd> Hoffer1--> perhaps it did not install correclty the first time
[01:58] <dr_Willis>  10BASE-T? isent that the old coax type?
[01:58] <ryans> Oh did you need more info on what version of linux, etc, etc?
[01:58] <DasEi3>  fuzzypig:a hub is not a switch
[01:58] <Fallenou> hi i have problems with a webcam under ubuntu, i use "Hercules dualpix hd" usb webcam, which is recognized when i plug it in, i have latest 2.6.27 kernel with EasyCam2 tools and ov534 driver, when i launch gstreamer-properties and i click on "Video" and i test my /dev/video0 with v4l2 it show "snow"
[01:58] <genii> dr_Willis: 10base2
[01:58] <luisp797_> where do I find those files?
[01:58] <dr_Willis> genii,  :) ok.. old-skool
[01:58] <Fallenou> but the little light on the webcam brights
[01:58] <fuzzypig> Ok, that's unfortunate. Does that mean I can't connect to it?
[01:58] <Fallenou> so it communicates with the cam
[01:59] <Pici> Fallenou: If you're using Intrepid, the proper channel is #ubuntu+1 for support/discussion.
[01:59] <Fallenou> ok thx
[01:59] <hvgotcodes> How can i decrease how fast my load cycle count increases without using hddparm?
[01:59] <Skky> question - i commented out my "auto eth1" entry in interfaces file, restarted, but eth1 is still starting
[01:59] <Fallenou> it doesn't work better on hardy i would say Pici :p
[02:00] <fuzzypig> I have a hub to work with. How can I connect them?
[02:01] <voraistos> dr_Willis lol 10base-T are the twisted pair cables :D
[02:01] <tylrd> DasEi3--> i mistakenly called the mdi/mdix feature autosense..but you get the idea..
[02:01] <dr_Willis> voraistos,  ive got box's of that old stuff... ive yet to toss out.. :)
[02:01] <DasEi3>  fuzzypig:you need two standard rj45 cables (non-patch)  and then can connect
[02:01] <dr_Willis> pc -- network cable --> hub <----- cable --- pc.
[02:02] <`Matir> Anyone know how I could disable apport for a single session to debug a program?  Otherwise, my core files disappear :)
[02:02] <voraistos> hey, I own an 8086 dr_Willis
[02:02] <dr_Willis> voraistos,  i got a timex sinclare 1000 :)
[02:02] <DasEi3>  tylrd:never saw this unless in gigabit
[02:02] <droopsta915> my computer is having sleep problems, what can i do to set fix sleep problems
[02:02] <genii> dr_Willis: I used to have one of those 99-4a
[02:02] <fuzzypig> Both are connected to the hub via a cat5 cable.
[02:02] <tylrd> DasEi3--> i have used them in 10/100mbps
[02:02] <luisp797_> I fixed my virtual box problem by reloading the application
[02:03] <dr_Willis> fuzzypig, set both up with static ips,   see if they can ping each other.. if so.. they are networked.
[02:03] <voraistos> dr_willis I have a timex wrist movement-powered watch :D
[02:03] <DasEi3>  tylrd:so I believe it now but recommend patch for direct links :P
[02:03] <hendrixski> what's the difference between Ram and Virtual Ram?
[02:03] <fuzzypig> I don't know the ip of the hub.
[02:03] <dr_Willis> voraistos,  an actual wrist watch! :) old-skool
[02:03] <dr_Willis> fuzzypig,  hubs dont have ip's
[02:04] <dr_Willis> 'routers' can have ip's
[02:04] <DasEi3> fuzzzypig: the hub has no own ip
[02:04] <fuzzypig> Then what is the gateway address?
[02:04] <fuzzypig> Don't I need that?
[02:04] <luisp797_> that's the router
[02:04] <dr_Willis> fuzzypig,  depends..  on what you are doing.. if its JUSt 2 machines.. theres not much of a gateway/network...
[02:04] <DasEi3> fuzzzypig: first, give the two network card attached to the hub ip's in the same range
[02:04] <fuzzypig> There is no router connected.
[02:05] <genii> if twp machines connected to each other, their own ip is the gateway
[02:05] <voraistos> dr_Willis it uses no electricity whatsoever, and i dont actually have to turn things around every morning for it to work :P I wished computers were based on that kind of technology, It's just so beautiful inside
[02:05] <fuzzypig> oh
[02:05] <dr_Willis> example ips... 192.168.1.100 and 192.168.1.101
[02:05] <fuzzypig> But neither of the machines are connected, so neither of them have IPs
[02:05] <fuzzypig> There is no router.
[02:05] <dr_Willis> fuzzypig, set both up with static ips,   <--------------------------------- see if they can ping each other.. if so.. they are networked.
[02:06] <DasEi3> fuzzzypig: for example : 192.168.001.101 the one and 192.168.001.102  the second, mask : 255.255.255.0
[02:06] <voraistos> You assign them IPs, router, connection  and whatelse or not
[02:06] <paul_81> can someone help we with a problem in natilus?
[02:06] <dystopia> dr_Willis: maybe he has a firewall running blocking ports...
[02:06] <fuzzypig> No firewall.
[02:06] <fuzzypig> I just had no idea how a hub works.
[02:06] <dr_Willis> dystopia,  at this rate.. we will never know.,.. :)
[02:06] <dr_Willis> hub just switches around some wires.. so things are wired proplery
[02:07] <fuzzypig> We;ve hit a dead end though.
[02:07] <fuzzypig> The second machine is only capable of DHCP.
[02:07] <voraistos> hubs copy the data from one port to paste it on all the other ports. hubs plain suck, but they also are cheap.
[02:07] <fuzzypig> I have to connect to it to enable static IPs
[02:07] <fuzzypig> Because it's a usb print server.
[02:07] <dr_Willis> My USB print server ive had - i could set up staic
[02:08] <dr_Willis> fuzzypig,  install a dhcp server on the other box then is another thing ya could do
[02:08] <DasEi3>  fuzzypig:so make the other pc a dhcp-server
[02:08] <paul_81_> Can someone assist me with a Nautilus question (running ubuntu 8.04 64 bit)??
[02:08] <genii> fuzzypig: When no dhcp server is found, ip range usually defaults to 169.254.x.x range
[02:08] <dystopia> hehe
[02:08] <MRcheese> can we get sued by Microsoft for using c#?
[02:09] <voraistos> probably :D
[02:09] <dystopia> you can get sued for anything...
[02:09] <dr_Willis> You can get sued for doing somtning,, and not doing it,, and not doing it fast enough. :)
[02:09] <MRcheese> even for just typing this/
[02:09] <dystopia> MRcheese: YES!! BOO!!
[02:09] <voraistos> In fact, You used "Microsoft" without their expressed written consent, so you should leave the country while you still can :D
[02:09] <hendrixski> there's nothing to stop Microsoft for suing people using Mono... unless you believe their marketing department which said they promise they won't
[02:09] <fuzzypig> I'm installing ISC DHCP3
[02:10] <paul_81_> Can someone assist me with a Nautilus question (running ubuntu 8.04 64 bit)??
[02:10]  * dr_Willis sues dystopia  for pain and suffering.
[02:10] <fuzzypig> Hopefully it works out of the box.
[02:10] <MRcheese> trademark infringment just like saying ubuntu is a tm infringement
[02:10] <hvgotcodes> How can i decrease how fast my load cycle count increases without using hddparm?  anyway to slow down ext journaling or other options?
[02:10] <paul_81_> Is this a help channel if not can someone direct me to one?
[02:10] <MRcheese> hvgotcodes: Use JFS ext3 sucks
[02:10] <voraistos> mount it as ext2 :D
[02:11] <ailean> guys i need some urgent help in recovering a file. can anyone help?
[02:11] <MRcheese> ext3 writes to the journal every 5 secs
[02:11] <fuzzypig> ok, server is installed.
[02:11] <genii> fuzzypig:If dhcp server doesn't work out..you you can let both boxes timeout. Then use a netmask of 255.255.0.0 and something like nmap to find out what ip the hard-wired dhcp box got
[02:11] <hvgotcodes> MRcheese: yeah can we reconfigure that?
[02:11] <dystopia> paul_81_: this is a help channel
[02:11] <voraistos> you should be able to adjust this in the mount options
[02:11] <hvgotcodes> maybe every minute or 2 ?
[02:11] <MRcheese> there is a way but i forgot
[02:11] <fuzzypig> hm
[02:11] <voraistos> man page
[02:12] <paul_81_> dystopia could you assist me with a problem in Nautilus?
[02:12] <CaptJager> How can I dictate a size of a video convert when using ffmpeg -i input.avi output.flv in terminal
[02:12] <dystopia> paul_81_: ask your question and we'll do our best to help you :-)
[02:12] <Elda> Hurray!  The pizza hut people messed up on their order and somehow ended up cancelling it.  So after straightening it out we are getting free pizza \o/
[02:12] <Elda> Two Large pizzas xD
[02:12] <exonine> Hi, does anyone have any experience with the Asus eee and ubuntu?
[02:12] <RHSanborn> I have a phone as a modem plan with sprint, and a bluetooth enabled phone. Could anyone point me to a decent thread or tutorial for setting up basic bluetooth modem configs?
[02:12] <DasEi3> fuzzypig: the difference between a switch and a hub is mainly that the hub can't autom.  detrmine right pin-setting of cables and is more vulnerable to data-collision, a simple switch avoids those probs and is below 10 EUR
[02:12] <Elda> bah :< wrong chat sorry
[02:13] <genii> exonine: Perhaps the users in channel #eeepc
[02:13] <paul_81_> I have lost the ability to SHIFT+CLICK in nautilus, to select multiple files, is there a way to fix this (xorg.conf possibly)??
[02:13] <dystopia> ailean: there are several programs and even live cds for that but best is to stop r/w to the filesystem
[02:13] <exonine> genii: thanks =)
[02:13] <voraistos> Elda, ever tried the CLI client for pizzahutt online orders ?
[02:13] <dr_Willis> paul_81_,  i dont see how that would be a xorg setting. try with a new user.. see if it works for them..
[02:13] <ailean> dystopia, which program would you recommend?
[02:13] <Mike020> what's the directory to put Piding plugins in?
[02:13] <paul_81_> ...will do BRB
[02:13] <Mike020> Pidgin*
[02:14] <ircbuddy> Why does my login screen not fit the screen?  it it my resolution?   Its like its zoomed in and panned over to the top left. all i see is a input field.
[02:14] <voraistos> /usr/share/something
[02:14] <RonzO> ircbuddy, sounds like you may have to check yoru xorg.conf file. sounds like its defaulting to a higher resolution than it thinks your monitor is
[02:14] <voraistos> or there could be a plugin dir in your home.
[02:14] <jigp> hello:) I can connect to wifi but not lan...after I setup a static in lan, I can't connect...and when I dhcp - I can't connect also.how to restore my default lan dhcp?
[02:14] <DasEi3>  fuzzypig:also the counters of 10/100 mbit are maximum numbers, practically its about a third they do (some nics do better then other)
[02:15] <nickz327> flash videos seem unstable for me and can make firefox crash. I assume this is conflictions with pulse audio. Is this normal? any fixes?
[02:15] <paul_81_> Dr_willis: it still works with a different user...what's my next step to remedy this??
[02:15] <chooch> hey guys
[02:15] <DasEi3> !hi
[02:15] <jjulian> hi got a problem fsck fails cause of filesystem size is 8 blocks bigger then physical size. how can i repair that?
[02:15] <chooch> I got a strange problem
[02:15] <Skky> how do I turn off eth1 permemently?
[02:16] <fuzzypig_> the print server won't time out.
[02:16] <chooch> got ubuntu 8.04 and when I switched to xfce, I can't play streaming radio on firefox
[02:16] <RonzO> Skky, sudo ifconfig eth1 down
[02:16] <dystopia> ailean: depends on filesystem, personally, i'd mount my filesystem r/o, burn a recovery cd in different computer, and then use a GUI program or whatever is provided with that recovery cd
[02:16] <RonzO> Skky, that should keep it from starting. if not, add it as a startup script
[02:16] <danbh_intrepid> chooch: how did you switch?
[02:16] <voraistos> DasEi3 cheap realtek cards can do these speeds, however sending 12 mbps is rather cpu and hdd intensive, so some older machines will fail at the task.
[02:16] <paul_81_> Dr_willis / dystopia: it still works with a different user...what's my next step to remedy this??
[02:16] <ircbuddy> RonzO: ok im in the file waht do i look for
[02:16] <chooch> installed the package and choose xfce session when I login
[02:16] <fuzzypig_> The server needs to be configured before it can use static IP.
[02:16] <jigp> hello:) I can connect to wifi but not lan...after I setup a static in lan, I can't connect...and when I dhcp - I can't connect also.how to restore my default lan dhcp?
[02:17] <ailean> dystopia, ok so what recovery cd?
[02:17] <chooch> "Listen" play music fine
[02:17] <voraistos> DasEi3 i mean megaBytes per sec.
[02:17] <jjulian> hi got a problem fsck fails cause of filesystem size is 8 blocks bigger then physical size. how can i repair that?
[02:17] <RonzO> ircbuddy, look down toward the end of it. i would suggest to google modelines for your monitor, so it can have the correct resolution for it
[02:17] <Skky> RonzO: that turns it off until the next restart, when it comes back on
[02:17] <RonzO> ircbuddy, what is the native resolution for your monitor?
[02:17] <voraistos> rythmbox is also much better than it used to be.
[02:17] <RonzO> Skky, hold on a sec, let me get you a site
[02:17] <MRcheese> does ubuntus kernel have FULL ACCESS TO ALL HARDWARE I/OS AND MEMORY?
[02:18] <ircbuddy> RonzO: im not sure. its a widescreen by gateway
[02:18] <DasEi3> voraistos:I found that realtek and other cheapies are up to 40% slower then intel,hp,dlink and few othrers
[02:18] <RonzO> ircbuddy, go to system > prefferences > screen resolution. what is it running?
[02:18] <danbh_intrepid> MRcheese: why wouldnt it?
[02:18] <dystopia> ailean: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recovery_Is_Possible but if you download a big file on the same filesystem the chance is that you already overwrite the data... the first thing to do is think like forenics: don't touch the filesystem or hdd anymore..
[02:19] <ircbuddy> RonzO: ive had to chage that. with sudo displayconfig-gtk
[02:19] <RonzO> Skky, http://www.neohide.com/automatic-start-up-hamachi-for-ubuntu-hardy-heron . when it says to make the script part, put "sudo ifconfig eth1 down" and follow the rest of the guide from there. its not the same...but it gives you the same idea
[02:19] <MRcheese> KERNEL MODE I MEANT
[02:19] <DasEi3> voraistos:think of a 10 mib hub switching cheap nics to that mode, the result  ...uuhm
[02:19] <danbh_intrepid> !caps > MRcheese
[02:19] <ailean> dystopia, i get that
[02:19] <chooch> danbh_intrepid: what do you suggest?
[02:19] <voraistos> DasEi3 i get more packet loss with them, but nothing alarming, and they do full speed as far as I know.
[02:19] <Skky> RonzO: thanks, i'll read through that
[02:19] <ircbuddy> RonzO: i get everything from 320X240 to 1600X XXXX
[02:19] <RonzO> Skky, yup yup
[02:19] <danbh_intrepid> chooch: I dunno, does it work in the other *buntu you were running?
[02:19] <ailean> dystopia, you've said it a few times now. which recovery tool would you use?
[02:19] <RonzO> ircbuddy, what monitor is it?
[02:20] <RonzO> ircbuddy, the model number i mean =)
[02:20] <DasEi3> voraistos:I found great differences in nfs and samba
[02:20] <afallenhope> is there an UPDATED version of wireshark? the one I have always crashes..
[02:20] <chooch> danbh_intrepid: worked with gnome before
[02:20] <ircbuddy> RonzO: Gateway LE 1963
[02:20] <ailean> dystopia, ok sorry
[02:20] <danbh_intrepid> chooch: does it work with gnome now?
[02:20] <dystopia> ailean: i'd do apt-cache search undel or apt-cache search recover and use one of those console utilities... or recovery is possible :-)
[02:20] <DasEi3> afallenhope: mine is doing fine
[02:20] <chooch> danbh_intrepid: maybe I need to change the sound mixer to something compatible with xfce?
[02:21] <droopsta915> I had a file on my desktop, now it's in my recent documents list, how can i restore it back to the desktop
[02:21] <nickz327> flash videos seem unstable for me and can make firefox crash. I assume this is conflictions with pulse audio. Is this normal? any fixes?
[02:21] <danbh_intrepid> !latest > afallenhope
[02:21] <afallenhope> DasEi3, in the filter type: data contains "yay"
[02:21] <chooch> danbh_intrepid: it's latest version of gnome, forgot the number
[02:21] <dystopia> paul_81_: i suppose its somewhere defined in gconf..
[02:21] <afallenhope> !backports.
[02:21] <danbh_intrepid> chooch: yes, but Im curious, does it work?
[02:21] <ailean> thanks dystopia i didn't realise what you meant :)
[02:21] <voraistos> nickz327: yes it is normal. The people from adobe programmed it this way.
[02:21] <chooch> danbh_intrepid: worked
[02:22] <dystopia> you're welcome!
[02:22] <nickz327> so having a crash like one out of 10 times is normal? no fixes?
[02:22] <danbh_intrepid> chooch: ok, so, does it work in gnome, thats my question
[02:22] <RonzO> ircbuddy, still looking for the native resolution
[02:22] <majik> hey does anyone have any idea why i have 10 apache2 proccess's running?
[02:22] <ircbuddy> RonzO: K Thanks
[02:22] <danbh_intrepid> chooch: I'm asking, assuming you still have gnome installed.  If Im wrong, let me know
[02:22] <chooch> danbh_intrepid: yes, last time I checked. the xubuntu is on my laptop and I gave it to a friend of mine
[02:23] <voraistos> nickz327, no no fixes. You could triy the latest builds of firefox though, since a plugin should theoretically NOT crash firefox.
[02:23] <RonzO> ircbuddy, are you sure thats your monitor? im not finding any info on the internet about it
[02:23] <danbh_intrepid> majik: I think thats just how apache works.  Each process can handle another connection
[02:24] <chooch> danbh_intrepid: I'll be able to the double check if we'll solve something else. VNC server is installed through synaptic but when starting the server, it just dissapeared
[02:24] <ircbuddy> RonzO: Got it at walmart. il get that page for you
[02:24] <chooch> and I could not connect the computer
[02:24] <RonzO> ircbuddy, that would help tons, lol  =)
[02:24] <chooch> I think it should ask for a password
[02:25] <voraistos> majik: if you dont want all these processes, you could try apache1
[02:26] <ircbuddy> http://windowsxp-privacy.net/?id=01502200020
[02:26] <Skky> RonzO: quick question - is there no way to do this through CLI or just editing a file?
[02:26] <ircbuddy> wo nvm
[02:26] <paul_81_> dystopia: nothing in gconf for nautilus relates to SHIFT+CLICK selection of files, any other ideas?
[02:26] <chooch> danbh_intrepid: what do you say?
[02:26] <ezzieyguywuf> if i'v lost my IRC password, is there any way to recover it?
[02:26] <ircbuddy> htf did that get into my notepag
[02:26] <ircbuddy> notepad*
[02:26] <RonzO> Skky, just adding a little script is honestly the easiest way to do it. only takes 2 minutes tops
[02:26] <ircbuddy> wow
[02:27] <ircbuddy> trying to copy a url from walmart dot com gives that
[02:27] <danbh_intrepid> chooch: well, it sounds like you aren't working at the problem computer, so I don't know what to say
[02:27] <Viking667> I've got a weird problem when I start up a OpenOffice.Org Base file, I get two messages both talking about a missing file:  /usr/lib/openoffice/share/basic/WebWizard/script.xlb/  and dialog.xlb/. I've looked up my install, and I don't even have a WebWizard directory... though I do have FormWizard and InstallWizard directories.
[02:27] <RonzO> ircbuddy, ZOMG my computer now has a virus! i must reinstall my ubuntu!!! =P
[02:27] <Viking667> Anything I can do?
[02:27] <dystopia> paul_81_: couldn't find it either.. maybe its a more generic setting, like metacity? you could maybe replace some parts of your homedir... (by moving them from .gconf to .gconf.bak -- for example) otherwise i have no idea...
[02:27] <Skky> RonzO: the problem is that I don't want to have to create a script for every computer i need to do this to
[02:28] <ircbuddy> thats freaking crazy
[02:28] <ircbuddy> il have to type by hand
[02:28] <DasEi3> Viking667: try reinstalling oo
[02:28] <chooch> danbh_intrepid: just help me with the vnc
[02:28] <ezzieyguywuf> anyone know how to recover a lost IRC password?
[02:28] <Viking667> reinstalling. Right.
[02:28] <ircbuddy> Http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5978900
[02:28] <tpw_rules> hi
[02:29] <genii> ezzieyguywuf: Maybe ask in #ubuntu-ops
[02:29] <voraistos> lol this link scanned my computer, found a broken registry and a highly crtical spyware problem in my internet explorer rofl
[02:29] <node357> ezzieyguywuf, /nickserv help sendpass
[02:29] <ezzieyguywuf> thanks
[02:29] <chooch> danbh_intrepid: what should I do in case that the vnc disappear after starting it? and I can't connect to the computer (no router)
[02:29] <Viking667> the filenames don't show up in openoffice.org-*.list under /var/lib/dpkg/info/
[02:29] <Viking667> ... so it's like the deb never even came with them.
[02:29] <voraistos> I have to file a bug report, right ?
[02:30] <danbh_intrepid> chooch: no idea, I've no experience with vnc
[02:31] <RonzO> Skky, you can try to do it in the configuration for the network connections, but it will take you the same amount of time to type "nano -w script" "sudo ifconfig eth1 down" and copy it
[02:31] <chooch> danbh_intrepid: do you know anything about the correct sound mixer for xfce? or anything should work?
[02:31] <puff> Hi,  i'm having run with rsync tonight.
[02:31] <DasEi3> Viking667: know how ?
[02:32] <RonzO> did ircbuddy sign off?
[02:32] <danbh_intrepid> chooch: all I know is how to remove gnome, or xfce.  They might be conflicting
[02:32] <kenshin_> Hey guys, I wanted to try Linux...and after attempting to install gentoo I thought I might go with something a bit easier. The only thing is, I have a Mac (OS X 10.4.11), so I want to put it on a 750gb external HD. I know that Mac uses an EFI bootloader- does Ubuntu support this?
[02:32] <Viking667> DasEi3: actually, no. I'm wondering if I missed an OOo package somehow.
[02:32] <DasEi3> RonzO: yes
[02:32] <lolmac> hello
[02:32] <kenshin_> Any good guides on getting started? I don't want to mess up my computer or the external hd
[02:32] <RonzO> i have his resolution, lol
[02:32] <lolmac> this new version of ubuntu
[02:32] <lolmac> 8.04
[02:32] <lolmac> in this new version
[02:32] <lolmac> can i run it on windows?
[02:32] <DasEi3> Viking667: open aterminal..
[02:32] <FloodBot2> lolmac: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:33] <Viking667> Actually, is there a way to find what deb those files would be in?
[02:33] <chooch> danbh_intrepid: How do I remove it? and if gnome use gdm, what xfce use?
[02:33] <Viking667> must be a apt-* command of some sort, surely
[02:33] <tpw_rules> kenshin_: why dont you try using boot camp?
[02:33] <DasEi3> Viking667:sudo apt-get remove --purge openoffice-org
[02:33] <RonzO> lolmac, you can use wubi to install it. it doesn't run inside of windows persay
[02:33] <danbh_intrepid> Viking667: does the file exist?
[02:33] <puff> Specifically, I'm trying to use rsync to copy data off a dying drive.  However, I'm trying to exclude a particular subdirectory that causes the drive to make odd clicking noises, using rsync --exclude=/media/disk-2/sub/directory/that/causes/problems
[02:34] <lolmac> This new version of ubuntu 8.04, can i run it like the live option, but inside windows? without interrupting the applications?
[02:34] <danbh_intrepid> !purexfce > chooch
[02:34] <DasEi3> Viking667:sudo apt-get install openoffice-org
[02:34] <kenshin_> Can't get bootcamp to work on my comp, I don't think 10.4 supports it as well as 10.5
[02:34] <Explo> lolmac: no
[02:34] <puff> However, it still appears to be trying to do something with theproblme directory, causing problems.
[02:34] <voraistos> kenshin_ as long as your computer can boot from USB, it should be able to boot anything from the usb disk
[02:34] <lolmac> Explo: but the cd
[02:34] <lolmac> says
[02:34] <RonzO> lolmac, but you can run it live without modifying the computer
[02:34] <morth_> What Program should i use for C?
[02:34] <Dr_willis_> !compile
[02:34] <voraistos> vim and gcc
[02:34] <kenshin_> Okay, so then it follows- how do I go about installing it on the external? Should I just put in the LiveCD and go from there?
[02:34] <RonzO> lolmac, windows and linux are different operating systems, and they don't interface the same way
[02:35] <Explo> lolmac: you can install using windows, but you cannot run both at the same time unless you use a virtual program like virtualbox
[02:35] <tpw_rules> puff: you might be able to use ddrescue
[02:35] <kenshin_> If my external HD is password protected would this make much of a difference?
[02:35] <lolmac> Explo: yes
[02:35] <tpw_rules> dont really know my way around it tho
[02:35] <RonzO> kenshin_, yup
[02:35] <Viking667> DasEi3: did _that_ already, but, does that file exist in a typical OpenOffice.org distro release?
[02:35] <Viking667> brb
[02:35] <kenshin_> Ah, okay then I'll remove the password from it.
[02:35] <puff> tpw_rules: Hrrm, maybe, but rsync appears to be working okay otherwise.
[02:35] <tpw_rules> morth_: if you are looking for an ide, i reccommend kdevelop
[02:35] <kenshin_> Okay, thanks for the help- I'm off to try and do this correctly.
[02:36] <lolmac> Explo: the original cd alone of ubuntu, it doesn't have the option to run like a virtual machine? without the need of a other software to virtualize it?
[02:36] <DasEi3> Viking667:not a particulary sure, but open office started on mine right of the box, so I guess so
[02:36] <voraistos> kenshin_ what do you mean by password protected ? you have some sort of hardware interface on it, or simple software encryption ?
[02:36] <tpw_rules> puff: yes, but i believe you would get a more complete backup
[02:36] <chooch> danbh_intrepid: it looks like this command remove all the standard programs... isn't it? what will happen then?
[02:36] <Explo> lolmac: no, there is an installer called wubi that allows you to install it using windows if you can't boot from the cd, but you have to install virtualbox and run it in there if you want to run both at the same time
[02:36] <puff> tpw_rules: I'd like to try that, if I can first finish the rsync backup...
[02:36] <paul_81_> dystopia: FYI it was a compiz setting I wasn't aware of under Grouping / Tabs, a command was bound to SHIFT+BUTTON1, I changed that and now it works again
[02:37] <danbh_intrepid> chooch: you will have xubuntu
[02:37] <voraistos> I am not sure you will be able to keep software encrypted on that disk with ubuntu. however since you seem to want to format it and you have cpu power, you could use the very hardcore encryption available for linux :D
[02:37] <chooch> danbh_intrepid: or maybe the xubuntu desktop will install everything back
[02:37] <paul_81_> Dystopia: thanks for leading me down the path
[02:37] <paul_81_> cheers
[02:37]  * RonzO props feet up
[02:37] <lolmac> Explo: ok
[02:37] <dystopia> paul_81_: cool :-) thanks for sharing the solution
[02:37] <lolmac> thanks
[02:38] <Viking667> DasEi3: can you see if those two filenames I mentioned are on your system?
[02:39] <DasEi3> Viking667:files again ?
[02:39] <Viking667> *sigh*
[02:39] <sd32> I have 4 desktops but it shows 8 desktops in the taskbar, any body know how to get to show the correct number of desktops?
[02:39] <Viking667>  /usr/lib/openoffice/share/basic/WebWizard/script.xlb/  and dialog.xlb/.
[02:39] <puff> Anybody see what's wrong here: http://rsync.pastebin.com/d4a0f2e56
[02:40] <RonzO> sd32, right click and remove one of the panels
[02:40] <hotrod_> hi
[02:40] <boosties> Can anyone help me?
[02:40] <di-sw> hi
[02:40] <RonzO> boosties, ask away
[02:40] <william> Anyone have the link talking about UUID?
[02:40] <danbh_intrepid> Viking667: I dont have those
[02:40] <danbh_intrepid> !UUID > william
[02:40] <Explo> boosties: whats the problem?
[02:41] <voraistos> dr_Willis: gotta go. This "discussion" we had about old computers made me realize how great the old days were to find a very unique machine we'd keep all our lives. nowadays... there isn't much choice, thanks to you-know-who :)
[02:41] <danbh_intrepid> !blkid > william
[02:41] <boosties> I downloaded python and cant seem to find the correct file
[02:41] <sd32> RonzO: thanks
[02:41] <RonzO> np
[02:41] <boosties> anyone help me with this?
[02:41] <ezzieyguywuf> boossties: what do you mean the correct file?
[02:41] <Viking667> hm. Then why is my Base file coming up with those?
[02:41] <Dr_willis_> boosties,  you may want clarify what you are doing.
[02:42] <Explo> boosties: what do you mean?
[02:42] <Viking667> I may have to export database, then import it into a newer database...
[02:42] <boosties> well I am trying to learn Python saw it in the add remove file page, it already says i have it but I cant seem to find it
[02:42] <ezzieyguywuf> boosties: you probably installed python 2.5 , if you mean you can't find the proper command just type python then touble tap <TAB>, and it will list all commands with the name python in them
[02:42] <boosties> If u cant tell i am new to Linux
[02:43] <ezzieyguywuf> boosties: of course, this is done in the terminal. there a loads of great guides for learnin python. I actually just started learning last week myself, and I'm already pretty far along!
[02:43] <ezzieyguywuf> boosties: would you like me to list these guides for you?
[02:43] <donavan_> can anyone tell my how I can open my file browser as root
[02:43] <boosties> yea man
[02:43] <boosties> I thought it was done in terminal but i wasnt sure
[02:43] <Explo> donavan_: type sudo nautilus in the terminal
[02:43] <donavan_> thanks
[02:44] <puff> specifically, rsync (and the failing drive) keeps getting hung up on the foo.net_backup_etc directory, which it's *supposed to be excluding.
[02:44] <puff> http://rsync.pastebin.com/d27a42b07
[02:45] <boosties> explo I did whats the module about?
[02:45] <Guest55703> the 8.10 beta comes out on the 30th right?
[02:45] <ezzieyguywuf> boosties: sure. http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/NonProgrammers lists tons of guides. first I read the non-programmer's tutorial, even though i've learned FORTRAN (i found everything else was way above my head) and now i'm almost through with the "how to think like a computer scientist". both are great introductions, and i'm writing a pretty complex program right now with those two under my belt
[02:45] <DasEi3> Viking667:folder webwizard doesn't exist on my sys
[02:45] <genii> Guest55703: The release version is Oct 30th
[02:45] <boosties> ok thanks
[02:45] <Viking667> hm. Weirder and weirder.
[02:45] <hvgotcodes> what's data=writeback in fstab do?
[02:45] <Guest55703> O.o
[02:45] <boosties> I am trying to learn how to program so any help is well appreciated
[02:46] <Guest55703> k so ill just get it through the update manager right?
[02:46] <ezzieyguywuf> i'm trying to recover my irc password with the "sendpass" command but it says i'm not authorized. can anyone help?
[02:46] <Dr_willis_> boosties theres online books that will teacy you python..  google will track some down for you
[02:46] <RonzO> Guest55703, you can, yes
[02:46] <genii> ezzieyguywuf: Again, I refer you to #ubuntu-ops for this question
[02:46] <Guest55703> is it ok or is it alot better to reinstall?
[02:47] <DasEi3> Viking667:so after reinstalling still same behaviour ?
[02:47] <RonzO> Guest55703, i like reinstalls myself
[02:47] <Guest55703> does it make much difference?
[02:47] <boosties> thanks Dr_Willis_
[02:47] <RonzO> Guest55703, not really, just personal prefference
[02:48] <Guest55703> k ty
[02:49] <boosties> Got another quick question (new to linux) on my mac trying to sign in as SU and Im using my root pw and its telling me I dont have permission does this sound right?
[02:49] <strAlan> is there a way for ubuntu to check any machines that join a network for compliance like updated virus scan, system patches, etc?
[02:50] <klamech> any simple answer to why sudo doesn't respect the .bashrc set aliases?
[02:50] <danbh_intrepid> strAlan: that would be a security hole if it could
[02:50] <bimberi> !root > boosties
[02:51] <william> what program runs the desktop? like icons and whats on the desktop
[02:51] <strAlan> danbh_intrepid, no it's not - it's called network access protection and it's done in Windows domains using NAP
[02:51] <Sowa_> Is there something like UltraMon available for Ubuntu, TwinView is quite limited.
[02:51] <bimberi> william: nautilus
[02:51] <strAlan> danbh_intrepid, if you can't help or answer the question can you please just not saying anything thank you
[02:51] <bimberi> william: (in GNOME)
[02:52] <william> bimberi,  it seems after editing my fstab with UUID's nothing is on my desktop
[02:52] <Rezagrats> If i kill gnome-panel will i lose all my windows/launchers ? also, can i still use the Applications menu using the Meta button (windows icon button)
[02:52] <danbh_intrepid> strAlan: sorry mate, there was actually a big discussion on slashdot regarding the security hole of such a nature.  Thats why I responded
[02:52] <dystopia> ..slashdot.. :>
[02:53] <strAlan> danbh_intrepid, no offence taken
[02:53] <bimberi> william: not sure about that sorry
[02:54] <bimberi> william: is $HOME/Desktop empty?  Does the fstab editing mean you're mounting a different disk that /home is on?
[02:54] <donavan_> anyone had any experience with punkbuster being a punk and not updating.... tried the mannual update and nothing ever tried the PBsetup and it give me some stupid error
[02:55] <strAlan> is there a way for ubuntu to check any machines that join a network for compliance like updated virus scan, system patches, etc?
[02:56] <droopsta915> i have a file with a path on my desktop, but its not on my desktop? how i can i put it on the desktop?
[02:57] <Chowder>  is there any way that I can change the color of the text on the gnome panel?
[02:57] <danbh_intrepid> !security > strAlan   you should check out this page    Maybe nessus is what you are looking for
[02:57] <Rezagrats> For my gnone-panel, where are the Launchers located ?
[02:57] <danbh_intrepid> !security > strAlan
[02:57] <Chowder> Rezagrats: you have to add the launchers
[02:58] <Rezagrats> Chowder, i have launchers _ON_ there... but where are they on my hard disk ?
[02:58] <ubuntunub> how can i manage the performance settings of ubuntu? (min/max CPU frequency, etc.)
[02:58] <Chowder> Rezagrats: /bin
[02:58] <Chowder> for executables
[02:58] <strAlan> danbh_intrepid, no, but thank you for trying
[02:59] <bimberi> Rezagrats: /usr/share/applications (.desktop files)
[03:00] <Kattollikisd> What is the command to open de Trash?
[03:01] <DasEi3> Viking667:sys upated/upgraded ?
[03:01] <david> hello
[03:01] <zetheroo-ubuntu> I am having a very hard time getting my mic to work on my Thinkpad R61 ... please help
[03:01] <david> i have compiz enable but when i watch a movie with totem i see the screen flicker
[03:01] <gera> turn off compiz
[03:02] <Chris_Foster> Kattollikisd: go to Trash:/ in your file browser, i think
[03:02] <Guest84869> that would be a solution but i need it for avant
[03:02] <gera> yea is the same when you play wow or try to open google earth
[03:02] <Chris_Foster> Kattollikisd: it might not work in gnome
[03:02] <Guest84869> gera i noticed it with googel earth also, no fix?
[03:02] <techsupport> how can i completely change computer name ?
[03:03] <gera> i just turn compiz off whenever i use any of those
[03:03] <bimberi> Rezagrats: or perhaps $HOME/.gnome2/panel2.d/default/launchers/  :)
[03:03] <genii> techsupport: man hostname
[03:03] <zimbres> what command should i type to read the man for fgets?
[03:03] <Guest84869> gera, the problem is taht i use awn with no other panels, so i kind of need it
[03:03] <Viking667> DasEi3: upgraded. Not what the problem was.
[03:03] <bimberi> techsupport: hostname command and editing /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[03:03] <DasEi3> Viking667:hardy ?
[03:04] <Rezagrats> Ty bimberi!
[03:04] <Viking667> DasEi3: seems there was a regression problem with migrating old pre-2.x settings... I deleted $user/.openoffice and $user/.openoffice2   - restarted, error has gone away.
[03:04] <bimberi> Rezagrats: np :)
[03:04] <DasEi3> Viking667:sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade      , never wrong
[03:04] <zimbres> how do i read the man of a c standard function?
[03:04] <Chris_Foster> Hi, I have a password saved in firefox, and Im trying to find out what that password is (I cant remember it), any idea how to get it? It apears when I go to the webpage, but It shows as black circles and copy and pasting it comes up with black circles.... Any help please?
[03:05] <piju_> hello anybody know what type of wireless chipset dell inspiron 1420 is using ?
[03:05] <Viking667> DasEi3: except in _this_ case. The error wasn't with OpenOffice itself - i.e. those files have never existed in OpenOffice 2.x.
[03:05] <Viking667> It was with files that USED to be in OpenOffice.org 1.x
[03:05] <daaaman64> anyone know why spell check in openoffice might not be working? the lines don't show up at all :/
[03:05] <Viking667> anyhow, that's all sorted, now I can depart happen.
[03:05] <DasEi3> fine so
[03:06] <Viking667> daaaman64: heh. Can't help there. You turned ON spellchecking in your Options and installed dictionary.?
[03:06] <Chowder> piju_: GOOGLE
[03:06] <Viking667> DasEi3: yup.
[03:06] <DasEi3> nice :)
[03:06] <daaaman64> Viking667, maybe not the dictionary. anyone know what the package is called?
[03:06] <Chris_Foster> daaaman64: It could be because its turned off, and its most likely not a ubuntu fault if its not working. Try an openoffice forum or something simular
[03:06] <zetheroo-ubuntu> why am I getting such bad pickup on my internal mic?
[03:07] <Chris_Foster> Hi, I have a password saved in firefox, and Im trying to find out what that password is (I cant remember it), any idea how to get it? It apears when I go to the webpage, but It shows as black circles and copy and pasting it comes up with black circles.... Any help please?
[03:07] <genii> zetheroo-ubuntu: Maybe you have an Intel HDA soundcard
[03:07] <DasEi3> !repeat|Chris_Foster
[03:07] <Viking667> daaaman64: openoffice.org-dictionary-en-US, I don't know the exact name.
[03:07] <Rezagrats> Chris_Foster, do as much as you can to remember the pass. if you can't find out if you can reset the pass somehow. a suggestion is to use Epiphany web browser. you can check your passwords and to what site they're for. (this may cause a physical security issue if someone got on to Epiphany.(no credit card data is saved in this form))
[03:07] <zetheroo-ubuntu> genii: I think I do ... can this be fixed?
[03:07] <Viking667> you could use apt-cache search openoffice | grep openoffice | grep dictionary
[03:07] <klos> Three tehnologies are now supported in Ubuntu Server Edition 8.04: iSCSI and DRBD.
[03:08] <genii> !intelhda > zetheroo-ubuntu
[03:08] <klos> spelling mistake on the ubuntu page
[03:08] <Chris_Foster> Kk, thanks Ill check it out, sorry for repeating...
[03:08] <Viking667> oh. Sorry. That apt-cache doesn't seem to work
[03:09] <bimberi> klos: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+filebug
[03:10] <tictac232434> !remote
[03:10] <tictac232434> Can someone help me setup a remote connect with another Ubuntu computer?
[03:10] <Viking667> daaaman64: hm. Can't see _any_ dictionary files in there... wonder if they've hooked into aspell/myspell et al.
[03:10] <genii> Viking667: I'm pretty sure it uses the myspell  dictionaries
[03:11] <Viking667> ah. Right.
[03:11] <daaaman64> Viking667, that's what I'm looking at. I have myspell and it still doesn't work :/
[03:11] <Viking667> daaaman64: (1) did you install myspell, and (2) did you install a english dictionary?
[03:11] <daaaman64> yes and yes
[03:12] <tictac232434> Can someone help me step by step through setting up a remote desktop, with another Ubuntu computer on the same network?
[03:12] <Viking667> I'll take a look under my other machine's options. The machine is my wifes, so bear with me.
[03:12] <tylrd> tictac232434--> have you done any tutorials on this subject yet?
[03:13] <techsupport> bimberi, trying to change the name of my computer, have a look http://pastebin.com/m74854169
[03:13] <tictac232434> Umm just the one that comes with the program. But it just explains buttons
[03:13] <g00dfella> hello, I'm trying to compile something and im new to linux and don't think i have the library's in the right places, can someone here help me with that?
[03:13] <iheartmarek_> anyone knwo where the emai (mail client) website is?
[03:13] <iheartmarek_> i can't find it on google anywhere
[03:13] <tictac232434> Can you point me in the direction of a good one?
[03:14] <Darklust> Hey guys, is it possible for me to update Edgy to the newest ubuntu without having to download a newer version?
[03:14] <techsupport> bimberi, also ran command sudo hostname 3800 AMD
[03:14] <techsupport> bimberi, also ran command sudo hostname 3800AMD
[03:14] <gera> try nslookup -q=mx emai
[03:14] <Pici> !hostname | techsupport
[03:15] <zimbres>  what package should i have to be able to read standard c functions?
[03:15] <the_dude> my games dont have any sound, plz help!
[03:15] <Pici> zimbres: you mean the man pages?
[03:15] <Viking667> daaaman64: you gone through "File=>Wizards=>Install new dictionaries" yet? Might be a place to look.
[03:15] <Darklust> Is it possible to update Edgy to the newest ubuntu even without the support?
[03:16] <danbh_intrepid> Darklust: why not do a clean install?
[03:16] <RHSanborn> I'm trying to setup a cell phone as a usb modem, but I need to find out what it's /dev/* name is, is there some way to view a list of active devices?
[03:16] <Darklust> I only have one dvd :(
[03:16] <genii> techsupport: You obviously didn't follow my earlier instruction on reading the manpage of the command hostname. It explains fairly clearly how to change the name
[03:16] <Pici> zimbres: if so, its manpages-dev you want.
[03:16] <techsupport> Pici, right, i did all that still see orudie@ubuntu:~$
[03:16] <Viking667> daaaman64:  then check under Tools=>Options, "Language Settings=>Writing Aids"
[03:16] <the_dude> my games dont have any sound...
[03:16] <zimbres> Pici, I have no entry for c functions for example "man 3 fgets".
[03:16] <zimbres> Pici, OK, i will try
[03:17] <danbh_intrepid> Darklust: do you have lots of bandwidth?  You could just keep upgrading with update-manager
[03:17] <Darklust> Dan: I try that, but it tells me the respositories dont exist.
[03:17] <Darklust> Apparently because Edgy is no longer maintained >.>
[03:17] <danbh_intrepid> Darklust: can you pastebin the error?
[03:17] <gera> hey dude
[03:17] <tictac232434> Tylrd: you there?
[03:18] <Viking667> daaaman64: I clicked on the first "Available language modules" entry, and got a window with some possibilities in it...
[03:18] <Viking667> Anyhow, time I left. I've got a ipv6-ipv4 gateway issue to sort out.
[03:18] <Viking667> (hurricane)
[03:20] <Darklust> Dan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/55162/
[03:20] <iheartmarek_> anyone know of a good terminal based email client?
[03:21] <danbh_intrepid> Darklust: well, you wana do a manual upgrade to feisty?
[03:21] <Darklust> I dont want to download the iso and burn it :(
[03:22] <genii> iheartmarek_: Yes. It's called mail
[03:22] <danbh_intrepid> Darklust: Im talking about a manual, unsupported upgrade with apt-get
[03:22] <Pici> Darklust: You're going to end up downloading more by going through from one release to the next to get to Hardy.
[03:22] <iheartmarek_> genii: where do i get that?
[03:22] <Darklust> Dan: Well yes
[03:22] <genii> iheartmarek_: mailutils package. Then you can use on commandline just the command "mail"
[03:23] <Yud_Zroc> wats the rules for selling ubuntu with a custom builtr computer
[03:23] <danbh_intrepid> Darklust: Pici is correct, the method I help you with will use tons of extra bandwidth, since you will have several other release upgrades to go through
[03:23] <iheartmarek_> does it provide a "gui" through terminal?
[03:23] <iheartmarek_> genii: e.g., http://fortunaty.net/software/emai/screenshots/emai-reading-email-with-context.png
[03:23] <Darklust> Dan: I would still like to know :)
[03:23] <Kira[work]> Hi guys,
[03:24] <danbh_intrepid> Darklust: well, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and change every edgy to feisty
[03:24] <Kira[work]> The instructions for PureFTPd and pureadmin at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureFTP seem to be a bit outdated as far as Hardy is concerned.
[03:24] <Darklust> Dan: That will work?
[03:24] <Kira[work]> Does Hardy's inetd still use inetd.conf?
[03:25] <danbh_intrepid> Darklust: there is a sed command that can do it for you, something like sed -i "s/edgy/feisty/g" /etc/apt/sources.list   BUT DONT DO THAT.  Just do it manually.  Im not sure of the command
[03:25] <danbh_intrepid> Darklust: nope, its going to be a rough ride, but it will be ok
[03:25] <danbh_intrepid> Darklust: lets go to a different chatroom...
[03:25] <Darklust> Which one?
[03:26] <danbh_intrepid> #climl maybe?
[03:26] <genii> iheartmarek_: The one I speak of is more primitive than that. Like this: http://i35.tinypic.com/wqv8cl.png
[03:27] <nickz327> wat would the commands to stop gonme/x11 be?
[03:27] <nickz327> alt f3 to access the terminal right? then what?
[03:27] <hello_scienceAt5> hey guys,,, whats a good command to see what my router, modem's IP is... i tried inetd but to no avail,,, did i goof the command up or is there another on a standard ubuntu install i can use?
[03:28] <genii> nickz327: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:28] <nickz327> and restart would be "same thing" start
[03:28] <nickz327> then login?
[03:29] <Yud_Zroc> correct
[03:30] <blak`> why would i install ubuntu the first time it detects my network card and wireless ... 2nd time i install it doesnt detect any network devices?
[03:30] <nickz327> why shouldn't i switch over to openSUSE? i plan on doing so.
[03:31] <genii> nickz327: Ubuntu support is much better :)
[03:31] <hello_scienceAt5> what about debian?
[03:32] <nickz327> the only thing i could think of is that synaptic is great, but thats it
[03:32] <nickz327> debian isn't a big enough difference
[03:32] <zelrikriando> genii, he will ask you to prove it right now :)
[03:32] <nickz327> too similiar to ubuntu
[03:32] <nickz327> im trying to progressively increase my linux abilities pretty much
[03:32] <genii> nickz327: Try FreeBSD for a while then
[03:33] <nickz327> a bit too big of a step. and i don't see any reason to switch to unix now.
[03:33] <hello_scienceAt5> nickz, ubuntu in my limited opinion is some of the best distros out.  gui, support, coding
[03:33] <blak`> why would i install ubuntu the first time it detects my network card and wireless ... 2nd time i install it doesnt detect any network devices?
[03:33] <nickz327> i'm looking for something a little cleaner, a little less bloated
[03:34] <nickz327> eventually i'll try slackware
[03:34] <lainy> I want to change my unix password (using passwd) to one I was originally using, but I get "Bad: new password is too simple"...but I was originally using it...any way to override this?
[03:34] <genii> nickz327: I'd suggest gentoo then
[03:34] <nickz327> anyway, i have to leave
[03:34] <nickz327> thanks for suggestions
[03:35] <hello_scienceAt5> blak, did you turn any perifs off then on in a diffrent order? you dierent.d somthing diff
[03:35] <blak`> i have /home on its own partition....
[03:35] <blak`> thats all that is diff
[03:35] <hello_scienceAt5> weird
[03:36] <blak`> yea
[03:36] <hello_scienceAt5> but not suprising... idk
[03:36] <blak`> everything worked fine ... smae exact install
[03:36] <blak`> now it doesnt work
[03:36] <blak`> lol
[03:36] <tritium> !enter | blak`
[03:36] <blak`> yea some people say sometimes this happens ... i guess i just have to manually find this
[03:36] <blak`> sorry
[03:36] <tictac232434> Does anyone know how to use a Remote Desktop Viewer?
[03:36] <hello_scienceAt5> wait.. im drunk... you said your netcard is not being seen?
[03:36] <blak`> yes
[03:37] <hello_scienceAt5> what sys are you using? lap, tower, model...
[03:37] <blak`> eeepc 1000h
[03:38] <hello_scienceAt5> ooh k did you check out (I think it is...) www.linux-on-laptops.com for compat probs?
[03:38] <ubuntunub> if i send an msn message to someone who is offline using Pidgin 2.4.1, will they get the msg when they come back online?
[03:39] <m3thod> hi all.
[03:39] <genii> lainy: sudo passwd <username>     should let you set any bad password you like
[03:40] <clayg> what is the name of the "disk mounter" that allows me to access my xp parition? I need the actual name callable by command line
[03:40] <lainy> genii: thank you
[03:40] <jrib> !ntfs > clayg
[03:40] <lainy> genii: i cannot ssh after I changed password...do I need to reset some key?
[03:41] <genii> lainy: Just use whatever password the ssh server is set for
[03:41] <MeVsTheVoices> ﻿How would I duplicate output to a file as well as stdout?
[03:42] <jrib> MeVsTheVoices: COMMAND | tee FILE
[03:42] <clayg> jrib, Thanks, I think this is a different one.  I made a shortcut for it on my taskbar , I need to put it on my girlfriends taskbar  but can't remember what the actual name of the program is and looking through sys>prefs and sys> admin i don't spot it :(
[03:42] <Hilikus> is there a script or CLI program that lets me send a single message on MSN and then disconnects?
[03:42] <lainy> genii: i changed my password but i can only ssh into my server with the old password--that's weird
[03:42] <Hilikus> i want to use MSN as a report system for my machine
[03:42] <MeVsTheVoices> jrib: I just tried that, I got nothig
[03:42] <jrib> MeVsTheVoices: be more specific then
[03:42] <lainy> i used sudo passwd twice to make sure i changed the password
[03:42] <clayg> the one i need is a gui
[03:42] <jrib> clayg: ntfs-config sets up fstab and then it will always be accessible through nautilus
[03:42] <MeVsTheVoices> jrib: Send output of given to a file and to terminal STDOUT
[03:43] <genii> lainy: sshd likely using cached one
[03:43] <freedumMan> how do i find out what path my device is using Example my USB phone is connected but i ran dmesg but i need a path like /dev/??? is there a command to find this out
[03:43] <jrib> MeVsTheVoices: I gave you the answer.  If it isn't working then you need to be more specific about the command you are running
[03:43] <MeVsTheVoices> Tee: Copy standard input to each FILE, and also to standard output.
[03:43] <clayg> jrib, looking like it's the one, thanks alot
[03:44] <lainy> genii: do you know how i might clear that cache?
[03:44] <jrib> MeVsTheVoices: yeah
[03:45] <MeVsTheVoices> jrib: Not, copy standard output to each file, and also to standard output
[03:45] <shamus> Does anybody know any folder sharing applications to share to DLNA devices? samba doesn't do the trick (work for ps3)
[03:45] <jrib> MeVsTheVoices: what exactly are you running?
[03:45] <CuraHack> I have a code, witch is a password for a modem, and I want to decode it.... How can i do that? (I have no idea what kind of encryption)
[03:45] <jrib> MeVsTheVoices: | takes stdout and makes it stdin for tee...
[03:46] <blak`> I have this extra quiet line after two of my menu.lst entries can i delete that?
[03:46] <genii> lainy: Likely sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart            (you'll need to login after again)
[03:46] <akahige> I'm trying to figure out how to alter the speed of my gigabit NIC... according to ethtool, the speed is currently 100Mb/s, but it won't accept a speed alteration command: "ethtool -s eth0 speed 1000 duplex full"... any ideas...?
[03:47] <danbh_intrepid> CuraHack: crack open the modem, reverse engineer the design, use google to discover encryption?
[03:47] <blak`> I guess ... do i only delete the quiet splash part or do i also delete the following line with quiet all by itself?
[03:47] <lainy> genii: i actually tried that already and it doesn't work
[03:47] <lainy> genii: I appreciate your help by the way
[03:47] <henley> Hi to all, my mother tongue is not english. I want to know how you call the first page of a document, where let say at university, you'll put your name, the name of the school, course number etc...
[03:47] <henley> Is it simply a "presentation page"
[03:48] <MeVsTheVoices> jrib: Thank ya, figured it out
[03:48] <usser> akahige, do you have cat6 wires as well as switch?
[03:48] <akahige> @henley: it's usually called a "title page"
[03:48] <Esquilo> henley, you can use #english channel for these questions ;)
[03:48] <blak`> henley: You just center a title on it with whatever seems relevant to what it is about
[03:48] <usser> akahige, a gigabit equipment has to be installed on the entire segment for the card to actually work at gigabit speed
[03:48] <Esquilo> *##english
[03:48] <akahige> @usser: yes.  all components are GB
[03:49] <henley> thanks, in french, its a literal traduction of presentation page
[03:49] <genii> lainy: Nothing immediately comes to mind.
[03:49] <lainy> genii: ok np
[03:49] <blak`> Does anyone know if i should delete the "quiet" line after each entry in my menu.list as well as deleting quiet splash after the kernel lines?
[03:49] <henley> yeah, its for building one in Lyx
[03:49] <oscillocam> lainy: I just have to chime in 'cause it's so weird... does you new password work from the console? are you sure it got changed?
[03:49] <airdogg> I need help building a routing table for my evdo ppp0 connection http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=906126&page=7
[03:49] <henley> I know how in linux but not in windows... need to ask uncle google
[03:49] <usser> akahige, hm dunno then
[03:50] <bobertdos> blak: It really doesn't hurt anything to remove quiet statements. The only thing it may do is make your bootup sequence switch to a verbose text mode where it will just show you all the output of everything it's doing.
[03:50] <akahige> @usser: not only can I not crank the connection speed up to 1000, I can't turn it down to 10Mb, either
[03:50] <lainy> oscillocam: i changed it twice with sudo passwd, but i can still only log in with the old password
[03:50] <genii> lainy: Possibly ssh won't allow insecure password but I think it unlikely
[03:50] <lainy> genii: actually ive now changed it to a secure password
[03:50] <blak`> ok, thankyou bobertdos
[03:51] <tictac232434> Can someone walk me through setting up a remote desktop viewer?
[03:51] <ubuntunub> any way to ensure my CPU is running at 100% in ubuntu?
[03:51] <lainy> it's some sort of rsa key cache
[03:51] <oscillocam> yea, but screw ssh, does it work from the console
[03:51] <lainy> going to google how to reset it
[03:51] <lainy> not sure what u mean
[03:51] <lainy> im using console yes
[03:52] <blak`> ubuntunub: you mean it's running as fast as it can run or it is being utilized to 100% currently?
[03:52] <oscillocam> i mean the password to access your window session or text console whatever you use.
[03:52] <akahige> @tictac: do a "man rdesktop"... you'll see all of the command switches necessary. it's actually easier to run rdesktop from a term than it is to use the GUI
[03:52] <CuraHack> How can I know what kind of encription tare is on a code, (i have the password)
[03:53] <tictac232434> AKA: ty gimme a sec
[03:53] <ubuntunub> i mean i dont want the OS to limit it, like power saving profiles in Vista for example
[03:53] <zetheroo-ubuntu> my internal mic is not working ... please help ...
[03:53] <ubuntunub> i want it to be 100% max all the time
[03:53] <ubuntunub> i dont want its "max" to be limited to 50% for example to save power
[03:54] <zetheroo-ubuntu> installing the latest alsa did not fix this
[03:54] <hotdog003> Hello! I'm respinning the Kubuntu live CD and I was wondering what packages should go into it. I have the kubuntu-live task and the kubuntu-kde4-desktop... but it seems a bit big. What do I have that I shouldn't and what don't I have that I should.
[03:54] <lainy> it'a server; on my local console, i i ssh user@hostname to log in and only old password works.
[03:55] <tictac232434> AKA: Ehh i am still lost...
[03:55] <tictac232434> AKA: I knew how to do it on Windows...
[03:55] <usser> ubuntunub, why is it that you want it at 100%?
[03:56] <oscillocam> oh i see, i was only trying to see if there's another service you can try to log into besides ssh. (like ftp or samba server.) then you would know if it's an ssh or a general auth (pam) issue.
[03:56] <usser> ubuntunub, its gonna scale up once u start doing intensive tasks
[03:56] <lainy> ok
[03:57] <nmaxt2> can someone explain to me how to change xorg video card settings in 8.1?
[03:58] <jrib> nmaxt2: #ubuntu+1 for intrepid help
[03:58] <nmaxt2> ty
[03:58] <lainy> oscillocam: problem solved. my mistake. by using sudo passwd, i was changing the root's passwd, not the user with which i was connecting to
[03:59] <oscillocam> oh great!
[03:59] <zetheroo-ubuntu> anyone know how to get a mic working with Intel HDA sound card?
[03:59] <oscillocam> ah yes
[03:59] <lainy> oscillocam: thanks for your help
[03:59] <oscillocam> sure...
[03:59] <akahige> @tictac: here's an rdesktop command I usually use: "rdesktop -g 1680x1050 -D -x l -a 16 [ip address of target machine]"... the elements are geometry (i.e. screen size), window manager decoration hide, etc., down to the IP address -- you can see them all in the man page. there's nothing to actually set up -- you just call out the elements you want
[04:00] <oscillocam> Why would XFS be slow? I recently had to go with ext3 because it was faster on an HP hardware raid (e600) I'm running. Anyone else using XFS on an HP server?
[04:00] <gTea> if [ $# -eq 0 ]; ...can anyone help me with what $# denotes? some sort of input?
[04:00] <meso1> It's the number of arguments
[04:00] <tictac232434> aka: ty
[04:01] <airdogg> anyone have good knowledge of wireless evdo ppp0 connections and routing tables?
[04:01] <meso1> So if $# is 0, then no command line arguments were passed to your script
[04:01] <gTea> meso1, makes sense. thanks
[04:01] <vilhelm> anyone here that has a phone with wlan?
[04:01] <meso1> gTea are you scripting in bash?
[04:02] <daaaman64> Viking667, thank you for your help. I have yet to get anything working however. But dont' break your back over it.
[04:03] <gTea> meso1, reading an example script in "essential sys admin" by o'reilly. what you said makes sense since they have a case set up with optional flags here
[04:03] <airdogg> anyone have good knowledge of wireless evdo ppp0 connections and routing tables? I have a routing table in windows where connection works good, and i notice the routing table in ubuntu is different can somone look and see what is going on? might be a simple basic fix http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=906126&page=7
[04:05] <tonysssss> is it possible to install xubuntu and retain windows bootloader
[04:06] <Lul2x> hey. I'm currently installing ubuntu and am making my own partitions... I was wondering if I need "bootable flag" turned on for my first partition, which will be used to install ubuntu
[04:06] <tictac232434> Aka: did not work man..
[04:06] <genii> Lul2x: It's not required
[04:07] <tictac232434> Aka:says connection refused I port forwarded and everything...
[04:07] <kansan> i want something to update dyndns for me regularly ... is there something on ubuntu hardy that can do that for me?
[04:07] <Lul2x> gennii, great, thanks. Do you also now what the Mount Option "relatime" means?
[04:07] <jrib> !info ddclient | kansan
[04:07] <airdogg> 2   142 ms    86 ms   127 ms  4.sub-66-174-67.myvzw.com [66.174.67.4]   when i ping 66.174.67.4 it says request timed out. or sometimes destination host unreachable [66.174.67.98 but a tracert returns a ping for it  i need to monitor my ping times to my gateway
[04:07] <genii> kansan: ezipupdate
[04:07] <genii> (as well as ddclient)
[04:08] <kansan> genii, what is easier/better?
[04:08] <Guest96892> hi .. im new to ubuntu .. just installed it right now .
[04:08] <genii> kansan: I've only used ezipupdate and not ddclient so I can only give a one-sided answer to that :)
[04:08] <savage-> hi
[04:08] <savage-> anyone using prelink here?
[04:09] <meso1> I'm using Pidgin - is there a way to suppress enter/leave room messages?
[04:09] <kansan> is there a dyndns alternative?
[04:09] <carpediem> kansan: Zoneedit is free
[04:09] <sram> meso1: i believe not. pidgin sucks for IRC...you should get an actual IRC client.
[04:10] <zetheroo-ubuntu> my mic is not working
[04:10] <zetheroo-ubuntu> very faint sound
[04:10] <meso1> sram, I know it's not fully featured, but if I just want to check out a channel from time to time, I think it's enough.
[04:10] <genii> kansan: Many. http://www.technopagan.org/dynamic/   has a list
[04:10] <zetheroo-ubuntu> and a lot of white noise
[04:10] <carpediem> sram: I've been using IRC since the beginning of time, and I think Pidgin is actually one of the best IRC clients around.  Purist can whine all they want, but it does an excellent job.
[04:11] <meso1> carpe: nice to know someone feels that way
[04:12] <tritium> meso1: not many do
[04:12] <morth_> ugh.. my friend is here with me and he wants to know how he can become a computer hacker/cracker? "Note: dont flame me - its my friend lol:
[04:12] <Rezagrats> Hey guys, my screenshots used to be only about 300KB~ and now they've bolted up to 1MB a piece. any ideas why ?
[04:12] <tritium> meso1: also note that empathy replaces pidgin as the default IM client in Gnome 2.24
[04:13] <genii> Rezagrats: Perhaps you've tripled your screen resolution?
[04:13] <meso1> I'll stick to pidgin because I like that my profile is cross-platform
[04:13] <TrailWhisperer> So is it true that fglrx will not be supported in intrepid?
[04:13] <genii> TrailWhisperer: PErhaps ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:13] <TrailWhisperer> Okay, thanks :)
[04:13] <genii> TrailWhisperer: Although I doubt it
[04:13] <bazooka> hey guys ... kopete keeps showing my address list even after i logout ...how do i stop it from doing that
[04:14] <Rezagrats> Genii, my resolution has always been at 1280x1024
[04:14] <Rezagrats> *.
[04:14] <carpediem> meso1: yeah, that too.  PortablePidgin....pure nirvana
[04:14] <bazooka> anybody knows to fix this up
[04:15] <bytor4232> carpediem: Even better than Finch ;)
[04:15]  * bytor4232 hugs his finch
[04:15] <TrailWhisperer> genii, there are release notes saying as much because of it not being compatible with the new X or something. I couldn't install Intrepid's beta without doing so without the driver.
[04:15] <carpediem> bazooka: that Q may be better answered in #kubuntu
[04:15] <bazooka> ohh please
[04:16] <bytor4232> Of course for IRC, I'm stuck in the stone ages.  I still use ircII
[04:16] <puff> bytor4232: I use emacs.
[04:16] <kansan> desktop-igloo /usr/sbin: sudo ddclient;  Use of uninitialized value in string ne at /usr/sbin/ddclient line 1973.
[04:16] <meso1> Does anyone have any articles on why Empathy is replacing Pidgin as the default?
[04:17] <tritium> meso1: no reason why, just the Gnome 2.24 release notes: http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.24/
[04:17] <bytor4232> meso1: I'm not for it.  My first act will be to apt-get remove empathy and apt-get install pidgin
[04:17] <Rezagrats> Genii: i know why now. if i take a screenshot of something complex (with lots of tiny lines) it shoots up, while if it's something simple it's pretty low in size.
[04:17] <carpediem> bazooka: hmm, well, I'm just saying....kopete is a KDE app after all, #kubuntu is bound to have more KDE users than #ubuntu
[04:17] <Rezagrats> Bye all.
[04:17] <krugar> hello everyone. After installing ntfs-config to have write access to an ntfs partition, I lost the ability to mount volumes without sudo. How can I revert this situation?
[04:17] <mkquist> can a distro upgrade be reversed or is it better to just reinstall?
[04:17] <jrib> mkquist: reinstall
[04:18] <mkquist> thought so
[04:18] <bazooka> carpediem:i am running it on ubuntu
[04:18] <bytor4232> mkquist: I tried that once.  I wound up reinstalling.
[04:18] <bazooka> carpediem:and it is better than piding
[04:18] <carpediem> bazooka: that's not the point...you are more likely to get an answer if you ask people who use it.
[04:18] <bazooka> pidgin *
[04:18] <bytor4232> mkquist: Technically it is possible, however its not plausable.  Your system will have a lot of bugs.
[04:19] <bytor4232> I dont use either.  I prefer Finch...
[04:19] <bazooka> finch is good ?
[04:19] <tictac232434> AKA: I can not get it to work
[04:19] <bytor4232> Finch is a console based libpurple client.
[04:19] <carpediem> if you like CLI apps
[04:19]  * bytor4232 runs Finch in a screen session with Alpine, ircII, and rtorrent
[04:20] <bytor4232> carpediem: I'm not biased twords console apps.  I jsut work at so many different desktops its much more efficient to do things that way.
[04:21] <carpediem> bytor4232: yeah, I understand.  I use to use finch on my Sidekick, it was nice.
[04:21] <zetheroo-ubuntu> I just found out that my sound card is not going to work for me with Ubuntu Hardy ... at least not the mic (internal or external)  ... is this going to be fixed with Intrepid?
[04:21] <meso1> Is empathy compatible with pidgins OTR plugin?
[04:21] <carpediem> (and if the damn IPhone had an ssh client, I'd do use it there too)
[04:21] <bytor4232> carpediem: I start at one desktop, move to my laptop or another desktop in my office, to my pda, then back to the laptop.
[04:21] <mkquist> anyone get file sharing to work in hardy?
[04:21] <demo_> does anyone know what's going on with Dell's Ubuntu support line tonight?
[04:21] <mkquist> lost that from the upgrade, at least the easy way
[04:22] <demo_> it keeps putting me through to non-Ubuntu support
[04:22] <carpediem> bytor4232: "screen" makes finch even better
[04:22] <Pici> demo_: This is just volunteer support here, we have no connection with Dell's support.
[04:22] <demo_> I understand
[04:22] <airdogg> 2   142 ms    86 ms   127 ms  4.sub-66-174-67.myvzw.com [66.174.67.4]   when i ping 66.174.67.4 it says request timed out. or sometimes destination host unreachable [66.174.67.98 but a tracert returns a ping for it  i need to monitor my ping times to my gateway traceroute returns ping time replies ping does not please help
[04:22] <zetheroo-ubuntu> I am pretty upset that my mic is just not going to work in Ubuntu ... very frustrating!!!
[04:22] <meso1> mkquist in what way were you sharing files?
[04:23] <bytor4232> carpediem: Screen is the bomb.  Alpine, Finch, ircII, and rtorrent in one session on my central server.  Makes my day much more efficient.
[04:23] <mkquist> meso1: network shares
[04:23] <krugar> hello everyone. After installing ntfs-config to have write access to an ntfs partition, I lost the ability to mount volumes without sudo. How can I revert this situation?
[04:23] <meso1> NFS or Samba or what?
[04:24] <meso1> krugar make sure suid is set for /bin/mount
[04:24] <bytor4232> carpediem: With that and sshfs, I'm pretty unchained from any desktop.
[04:24] <bazooka> hey guys ... kopete keeps showing my address list even after i logout ...how do i stop it from doing that
[04:24] <zetheroo-ubuntu> this means I have to get a new laptop ...
[04:24] <zetheroo-ubuntu>  :-@
[04:25] <krugar> meso1, thank you. Can you please explain how? I apologize, only started learning about linux a week ago
[04:25] <meso1> zetheroo: have you checked through all of the options in sound preferences... sometimes there are some switches taht are hidden by default
[04:26] <meso1> krugar: type sudo chmod u+s /bin/mount
[04:27] <tritium> meso1, krugar: it's already set suid
[04:27] <krugar> meso1, it worked for one volume. But not the other
[04:27] <meso1> I know its suid by default but something might have changed when he installed it.
[04:28] <krugar> I have since purged the package. But couldn't reclaim rights
[04:28] <meso1> I've actually had a situation (that's long since been resolved) where I needed suid on mount.cifs but NO suid on mount to mount a samba share
[04:28] <Hyourwe> so is XPde just like a theme pack for linux>
[04:29] <Hyourwe> ??
[04:30] <meso1> Isn't the ntfs-3g stuff mounted through FUSE?
[04:30] <dan> there's no package for virtualenv in ubuntu is there?
[04:32] <Geoffrey2> anyone here able to help with wireless problems?
[04:33] <jenna_> is ies4linux the best way to do what it does?
[04:33] <Azlx> is there a command to mount a partition when booting?
[04:34] <Ademan> jenna_: i guess, "best" is pretty subjective
[04:34] <Ademan> i would say it's a good way to get do it though
[04:34] <Ademan> s/get//
[04:34] <nomin> jenna_: try to avoid MS programs
[04:34] <jenna_> Ademan,  great, I'm looking for alterntives
[04:34] <Ademan> jenna_: i suppose you want ie for testing?
[04:35] <jenna_> yeah some sites require them
[04:35] <jenna_> and my work mail doesn't require it but waters the mail "client" down without it
[04:35] <Lul2x> Woot, my base system is now installed!!!
[04:35] <Ademan> oh... have you tried using the user agent switcher jenna_ ?
[04:35] <nomin> jenna_: have you tried using other browsers using wine?  Some site allow firefox, but the windows version, which runs very well on wine.
[04:36] <nomin> opera is another one that I've found to work using the windows version on wine.  This is for websites that supposedly require windows.
[04:36] <jenna_> nomin, check out mail.krgroup.com I'd like to have the calendar function but if you go to it from FF it gives you light
[04:36] <genii> nomin: User Agent is a much simpler solution
[04:37] <nomin> genii: I think I've tried that and it didn't work.
[04:37] <jenna_> then my little brother needs to apply to walmart and it requiress IE
[04:37] <jenna_> and i want his discount lol
[04:37] <gera> BYE PPL HAVE A GOOD NIGHT
[04:37] <Ademan> jenna_: again have you tried using the user agent switcher plugin for firefox?
[04:38] <jenna_> Ademan, I have not
[04:38] <Ademan> jenna_: usually firefox can handle those sites, and the user agent switcher will fool the site into think you're using IE
[04:38] <jenna_> I was busy explaining the whys
[04:38] <jenna_> but happy to hear a how if that is one :)
[04:38] <jenna_> Ademan, that sounds like it's worth a shot, thanks
[04:39] <genii> jenna_: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59
[04:39] <jenna_> genii, thank you
[04:39] <jenna_> getting it now
[04:39] <genii> jenna_: np
[04:40] <Geoffrey2> so, once again nobody here can fix wireless problems?
[04:40] <jenna_> NICE
[04:40] <dontchoke> can someone please point me in the direction of how to install a program?
[04:40] <dontchoke> i want to insatll whois
[04:40] <jenna_> thanks Ademan,genii, and nomin this takes care of alot of problems for me
[04:40] <Ademan> jenna_: glad to hear it, so it's working?
[04:40] <scunizi> dontchoke, it's already installed..
[04:41] <nomin> dontchoke: upen up synaptic package manager
[04:41] <scunizi> dontchoke, system/admin/network tools
[04:41] <jenna_> Ademan, sort of it distorted the srceen a little
[04:41] <dontchoke> scunizi noton my box
[04:41] <jenna_> but it is suitable, i just need to see meeting popups
[04:41] <genii> jenna_: If the site makes use of ActiveX objects the user agent still won't help much. But it can fool a lot of sites into behaving better
[04:41] <dontchoke> The program 'whois' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[04:41] <dontchoke> apt-get install whois
[04:41] <jenna_> or whatever my boss tosses my way
[04:41] <scunizi> dontchoke, it's part of my default install on mine..
[04:41] <corinth> When I used to use KDE, I liked the quick folder panel applet. Is there anything similar to this I can use in Ubuntu?
[04:41] <dVs--> if i have ssh on two computers how would i browsethe other computers files ?
[04:41] <nomin> dontchoke: sudo apt-get install package_name
[04:42] <maco> corinth: you just mean a shortcut to particular folder?
[04:42] <Ademan> dVs--: places->connect to server,  select ssh, and type in the IP address of the other computer, username, and a starting directory to browse
[04:42] <dVs--> coo thankx
[04:43] <dVs--> can i do it with the computer name ?
[04:43] <JasonWoof> my wireless mouse is sending lots of extra events when I move it. Whenever I move it it sends a button-pressed event with button=6 followed immediately by a button-released event for button=6
[04:43] <maco> corinth: you could always put a launcher with the command being "gnome-open /home/me/Movies" or something
[04:43] <Bryce_> Hey, is there anyway that I could make a multi-distro Live CD? Something that would let me choose between a selection of distros when I put in the CD?
[04:43] <jenna_> do you guys know how to use ies4linux?
[04:43] <JasonWoof> this makes it so I can't drag to select in many programs. Any wisdom for me? Can I just disable button 6 in my X config?
[04:43] <l337ingDisorder> hey folks, just wondering how I change my networkdomain
[04:44] <corinth> maco: I liked that I could browse through several folders before actually launching something. I used it for my Videos folder, and quickly looked through different TV show folders before choosing something.
[04:45] <maco> corinth: hm, no i dont think we have that, sorry. but if you use avant-window-navigator (it's a dock) it has an applet for that
[04:46] <corinth> I don't use it. I've tried it, but I just prefer my two panels.
[04:46] <morth_> woot just downloaded some torrants :)
[04:46] <jasuus> how do i auto-identify when i log on
[04:46] <scunizi> jasuus, you mean avoid uname and password entry?.. .you don't want to do that.
[04:46] <vilhelm> hello. I have a HPdeskjet 6540 on my windows xp machine and it's being shared but i cant find it in ubuntu :(
[04:47] <jasuus> oh ok
[04:47] <iceer123> HI!
[04:47] <AzzCoder> vilhelm, the printer on windows is shared trought netbios
[04:47] <AzzCoder> vilhelm, so you surelly need samba client
[04:48] <vilhelm> AzzCoder: I have samb installed
[04:48] <vilhelm> a
[04:48] <genii> AzzCoder: smbclient is default installed
[04:49] <hackbozy> iceer123
[04:49] <hackbozy> iceer123
[04:49] <hackbozy> iceer123
[04:49]  * Geoffrey2 sighs
[04:49] <FloodBot2> hackbozy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:50] <AzzCoder> vilhelm, System \ Administration \ Printing
[04:50] <tyler_d> I have a failed distro upgrade that is failing on 'Generating locales' en_AU.UTF-8 I have checked the forums however cannot get the upgrade to complete
[04:50] <AzzCoder> vilhelm, you need select there Network Printer, and Windows (SMB)
[04:50] <AzzCoder> vilhelm, setup the host and then will appear the printer
[04:50] <tyler_d> my /etc/environment shows en_CA.UTF-8
[04:51] <genii> tyler_d: Yes it hates any locale that is not en_US-whatever
[04:51] <vilhelm> AzzCoder: ok i will give it a try
[04:51] <tyler_d> ﻿genii: so what do I do to correct this?
[04:51] <AzzCoder> vilhelm, okey
[04:51] <Geoffrey2> a notebook with no wireless is kind of useless, to be honest....
[04:51] <genii> tyler_d: Set locale to US  then switch it back after
[04:52] <tyler_d> ﻿genii: sorry for my ignorance, how do I modify that? just change the file?
[04:53] <go_beep_yourself> is ati up to part with nvidia now in linux with their open source linux drivers?
[04:53] <macv1> hi all... i'd like to change the fan settings on my ACER laptop
[04:53] <genii> tyler_d: Yes
[04:54] <genii> tyler_d: man locale should show the possible values you can use
[04:54] <macv1> ﻿go_beep_yourself: since i'm using ATi i have to say NO
[04:54] <vilhelm> AzzCoder: yes now it works :) ... there must have been some conflicts yesterday because i couldn't find it :) thx
[04:55] <go_beep_yourself> macd__-> are you using the new open source drivers by ati
[04:56] <suleyman> here is a puzzler. I have a network like so: FIOS_router -> linksys_router -> my computers. After my ubuntu comes back from sleeping, it can reach the linksys router (192.168.10.1) but not the FIOS router (192.168.1.1). Other computers have no trouble getting thru both routers (I am on that network talking to you now)
[04:56] <macv1> ﻿go_beep_yourself: i tried the restrictd drivers and also the latest release at the ATI site... still had probs
[04:56] <go_beep_yourself> macd__-> ok
[04:56] <vilhelm> AzzCoder: but there is no driver that matches my printer :/
[04:56] <go_beep_yourself> macv1-> ok
[04:56] <suleyman> I did /etc/init.t/network restart   but it did not help
[04:57] <genii> vilhelm: When in doubt the generic postscript driver is usually good for most HP
[04:57] <suleyman> If I reboot the computer I bet it will be fixed
[04:57] <macv1> ﻿hi all... i'd like to change the fan settings on my ACER laptop
[04:57] <l337ingDisorder> hey I'm trying to set up ssh for remote console access... I've installed ssh on the server and ssh-client on the client machine, and I can ping the server from the client, but when I try ssh (ip_of_server) it tells me Connection refused. What steps have I missed?
[04:57] <morth_> hey im trying to send a file over Amsn
[04:57] <vilhelm> genii: yeah I took the driver that was signed only HpDeskjet
[04:58] <carpediem> l337ingDisorder: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[04:58] <morth_> and theres a loading screen saying accepting file transfer transfer
[04:58] <carpediem> l337ingDisorder: (on the server)
[04:58] <genii> carpediem: Hehe beat me to it there
[04:58] <l337ingDisorder> carpediem ok thanks i'll try that :)
[04:58] <here> attempting to install libdvdread3 but getting "no installation candidate" // have added universe and medibuntu repositories //
[04:59] <carpediem> l337ingDisorder: also suggest, install rcconf, then sudo rcconf, and check it as a startup by default
[04:59] <here> "Package libdvdread3 is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[04:59] <l337ingDisorder> carpediem: Temporary failure in name resolution
[04:59] <carpediem> l337ingDisorder: as a result of what?
[04:59] <l337ingDisorder> carpediem: Just tried running 'ssh start' and that was the output
[04:59] <isilion> hi
[05:00] <isilion> i need help plz
[05:00] <isilion> ﻿i cant set color depht to 32 bit on xubuntu
[05:00] <carpediem> l337ingDisorder: no, you need it like sent it
[05:00] <genii> l337ingDisorder: the: sudo /etc/init.d     part is fairly important
[05:00] <l337ingDisorder> with the full path?
[05:00] <l337ingDisorder> k
[05:00] <macv1> ﻿hi all... i'd like to change the fan settings on my ACER laptop
[05:00] <l337ingDisorder> i'm root right now
[05:00] <l337ingDisorder> but i'll add the path
[05:00] <carpediem> l337ingDisorder: well, you shouldn't be
[05:01] <scunizi> isilion, what can you set it too.?
[05:01] <isilion> its 24 now
[05:01] <l337ingDisorder> well howdy do that looks like it worked
[05:01] <isilion> think it can be 16 too
[05:01] <l337ingDisorder> testing
[05:02] <scunizi> isilion, 24bps?  that is 32 bit.
[05:02] <isilion> graphic is a nvidia gforce 4 with nvidia legacy drivers from nvidia site
[05:02] <isilion> humm
[05:02]  * l337ingDisorder tips his hat to carpediem
[05:02] <isilion> then the prob is wine
[05:02] <macv1> can anyone suggest a software for ripping audio from a video file???
[05:03] <isilion> im trying to run spore on wine, i ve patched wine and compiled it
[05:03] <l337ingDisorder> carpediem: It does indeed work! But now it's prompting me for a password for a user that exists on the client system (which I'm logged in as) but doesn't exist on the server
[05:03] <carpediem> l337ingDisorder: ssh servername -l username
[05:03] <isilion> ive installed spore too using wine and when i try to run it
[05:03] <isilion> a message tells that desktop settings must be in 32 bit depht
[05:03] <l337ingDisorder> awesome, thanks carpediem! You've probably saved me about 40 mins of googling and ref-scanning tonight ;)
[05:04] <tyler_d> k still no go... how do I change all my locales to US_en
[05:04] <carpediem> l337ingDisorder: np, now logout of root before I pwn your system.  :p
[05:04] <w_nicram> don't know if that is the right place to ask, but I will.... how do I get USB working in Virtual Box on Hardy?
[05:04] <here> on hardy, apt-get can't find libdvdread3 "E: Package libdvdread3 has no installation candidate
[05:05] <scunizi> w_nicram, did you install vbox from their site or the repos?
[05:05] <w_nicram> scunizi, from their site
[05:05] <macv1> ﻿ w_nicram: search the virtual box site .... there is a good info about this
[05:05] <l337ingDisorder> carpediem: I'm not root on this system - that would be foolish... I'm root on a barebones kiosk I'm putting together
[05:05] <macv1> ﻿ w_nicram: u need to change fstab
[05:05] <scunizi> w_nicram, hang on and I'll give you a link to my fstab.. it has a line you need to put into yours.
[05:06] <w_nicram> scunizi, love you already...:)
[05:06] <carpediem> l337ingDisorder: ah, fair enough
[05:06] <genii> here: Enable universe and try again
[05:06] <morth_> can anyone help me?! im trying to send a file over AMSN and it says 0% accepting file transfer request and nothing is happening..?
[05:06] <scunizi> w_nicram, carefull.. I don't live in that part of town.. http://pastebin.com/f2a4c2b7a
[05:06] <isilion> please help
[05:06] <l337ingDisorder> thanks again for the help - if I was a DM i'd grant you a +5 Sword of Timesaving (or a +5 to your savings throws against time.. or somthing like that)
[05:07] <starn> anybody know how to fix this error? /home/starn/targetware/targetware: error while loading shared libraries: libcurl.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory i've looked in package manager to see if i had libcurl which i do.
[05:07] <w_nicram> scunizi, me neither.... it's pure digital worship....:D
[05:07] <jasuus> there should be no mention of +5 swords here.  It really makes us look nerdy
[05:07] <scunizi> w_nicram, it's the last line in fstab that you need.  :)
[05:07] <carpediem> jasuus: that was great, I almost spit up my beer.
[05:08] <DigitalFiz> this said in a ubuntu channel :P
[05:08] <w_nicram> w_nicram, thanks a thousand...
[05:08] <w_nicram> scunizi, owe you a beer
[05:09] <Azlx> my speakers are not being recognized why is that?
[05:09] <scunizi> w_nicram, oktober fest dark  .. from Andecs in Bavaria will do :)
[05:09] <airdogg> anyone have good knowledge of wireless evdo ppp0 connections and routing tables? I have a routing table in windows where connection works good, and i notice the routing table in ubuntu is different can somone look and see what is going on? might be a simple basic fix http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=906126&page=7
[05:09] <airdogg> 2   142 ms    86 ms   127 ms  4.sub-66-174-67.myvzw.com [66.174.67.4]   when i ping 66.174.67.4 it says request timed out. or sometimes destination host unreachable [66.174.67.98 but a tracert returns a ping for it  i need to monitor my ping times to my gateway traceroute returns ping time replies ping does not please help
[05:09] <Chris_Foster> If I have ubuntu server running samba, does the windows machine I want to connect with have to have some software on it? If so, where can I find the software?
[05:09] <morth_> can anyone help me?! im trying to send a file over AMSN and it says 0% accepting file transfer request and nothing is happening..?
[05:09] <w_nicram> scunizi, this one is going in to my knowledge base
[05:09] <here> hmm.. thanks i had dapper universe but not hardy enabled, prob solved, gracias.
[05:09] <genii> Azlx: Theyre plugged into the microphone port, conceivably?
[05:10] <w_nicram> scunizi, will do :)
[05:10] <Azlx> lol
[05:10] <Azlx> funny, but no, they play when im in windows, but not on ubuntu
[05:10] <w_nicram> scunizi, will ship it with next ubuntu release
[05:10] <l337ingDisorder> carpediem: sorry to keep bugging you but it just occurred to me.. if I add a call to /etc/init.d/ssh start into my ~/.bashrc it will only start when there's a user logged in - specifically the user whose .bashrc is being run... Where should I be calling 'ssh start' so that it runs as soon as the system starts up?
[05:10] <scunizi> w_nicram, It'll be a long fedx flight to San diego
[05:11] <starn> anybody know hot to fix this error?? "error while loading shared libraries: libcurl.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" i have libcurl or at least package manager says i do
[05:11] <standarshy> hey room
[05:11] <w_nicram> scunizi, It'll be even longe since I'm gonna have to go back and forth from Brooklyn
[05:11] <standarshy> I installed ubuntu through wubi
[05:11] <w_nicram> scunizi, but I'll keep it cool
[05:11] <standarshy> and I get an error I try to install updates or try ti enable restricted drivers
[05:11] <Odd-rationale> l337ingDisorder: well, /etc/init.d/sshd start needs to run with sudo... so adding it to ~/.bashrc may not work...
[05:11] <w_nicram> scunizi, in the mean time how about Okocim?
[05:12] <here> hehe.. before i got vid but no audio, now i get audio but no vid (after installing new codecs).. says nothing avail.
[05:12] <scunizi> w_nicram, that's good .. we have a 90+ degree heat wave out here.
[05:12] <Odd-rationale> l337ingDisorder: if you installed the openssh-server, it should automatically start on boot up...
[05:12] <here> (totem)
[05:12] <l337ingDisorder> odd-rationale: Yea and .bashrc only executes once a user logs in..... I need to have it execute even if there's no one logged in at all
[05:12] <frybye> standarshy: and you can post the error to the pastbin??
[05:13] <macv1> ﻿can anyone suggest a software for ripping audio from a video file???
[05:13] <l337ingDisorder> hmm seems like it should be possible to just start the server that's already installed, no?
[05:13] <frybye> the error- message i mean..?
[05:13] <only_> ???
[05:13] <standarshy> I get "e:dpkg was interrupted" "e:_cache-> open() failed, please report"
[05:13] <frybye> so others can see it and help better..
[05:13] <macv1> here: try vlc... u wont need codecs
[05:13] <SchmittyDoesIt> scunizi: try living in Lake Havasu Arizona
[05:13] <here> indeed.
[05:13] <Odd-rationale> l337ingDisorder: like i said, it should already start on boot, if you have installed openssh-server...
[05:13] <w_nicram> scunizi, 90 degrees... whoa -> 55 here
[05:13] <only_> where are you?
[05:13] <l337ingDisorder> odd-rationale: i just installed ssh
[05:13] <morth_> can anyone help me?! im trying to send a file over AMSN and it says 0% accepting file transfer request and nothing is happening..?
[05:13] <pdlnhrd> anyone using ati's proprietary drivers?  i could use some help
[05:14] <only_> where are you?
[05:14] <cilkay> I have apt-cacher working in such a way that if a client requrests a package not in the cache, it will be fetched from an on-line repo. I'm trying to get the same thing working with a preseed PXE installation but so far, I haven't been successful. I have 'd-i mirror/http/proxy string Acquire::http::Proxy "http://myserver:3142", which is exactly what I used in the network client and it worked, but it didn't work. An
[05:14] <cilkay> y ideas?
[05:14] <scunizi> SchmittyDoesIt, one of my favorite winter vaca spots..
[05:14] <Odd-rationale> l337ingDisorder: what package did you install? you should have installed "openssh-server"
[05:14] <l337ingDisorder> Odd-rationale: sudo apt-get install ssh
[05:14] <SchmittyDoesIt> scunizi: you come here a lot?
[05:15] <only_> no
[05:15] <only_> i'm a fresher
[05:15] <Odd-rationale> l337ingDisorder: ok. that is a metapackage that pulls in openssh-server anyways...
[05:15] <scunizi> SchmittyDoesIt, not really.. work keeps me away.. rented a houseboat once.. and been out a couple other times in the last 5 years..
[05:15] <l337ingDisorder> odd-rationale: is there any extra config to openssh-server? cause with ssh all I had to do was install the package and now if I launch /etc/init.d/ssh start   it activates the server
[05:15] <standarshy> hey room, I am having a problem with installing updates, I get the following error http://paste2.org/p/83710
[05:16] <l337ingDisorder> odd-rationale: ok sweet, so that being the case, what do I have to do to make it start automatically on boot up? :)
[05:16] <corinth> Where is the key located in gconf-editor that controls what happens when I double-click a titlebar in gnome?
[05:16] <w_nicram> scunizi, one more if you don't mind => do you know a good sync app for ubuntu? Need to sync files from remote windows server
[05:16] <scunizi> standarshy, did you run the command in the first line?
[05:16] <Odd-rationale> Chris_Foster: you should not need any new software on windows to access samba shares on a ubuntu server: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[05:16] <SchmittyDoesIt> scunizi: That's cool, I've lived here for about 5
[05:16] <Bruce_Wayne> hey i just installed ubuntu today .. how do i update my repositories and stuff
[05:16] <Odd-rationale> l337ingDisorder: it should already... does it not?
[05:16] <scunizi> w_nicram, rsync maybe.. not sure..
[05:17] <l337ingDisorder> Bruce_wayne: system -> administration -> synaptic package manager
[05:17] <w_nicram> scunizi, will try... thanks
[05:17] <l337ingDisorder> Bruce_wayne: for repositories, system -> administration -> software sources
[05:17] <Chris_Foster> Bruce_Wayne: you can open a command prompt and use "sudo apt-get update" or if you perfer GUI, open the package manager and click update, or click the adept notifier in your system tray (if its there)
[05:18] <l337ingDisorder> odd-rationale: well I don't think so.. when I just boot to login prompt, it refuses connections.. once i log in, still refuses connections.. once I run /etc/init.d/ssh start   i can then connect
[05:18] <l337ingDisorder> though hold on a sec... i've been booting to runlevel 1
[05:18] <l337ingDisorder> i'll try normal boot
[05:18] <macv1> ﻿ ﻿hi all... i'd like to change the fan settings on my ACER laptop.... or where i should look for help regarding this?
[05:19] <Odd-rationale> l337ingDisorder: btw, the tab key might be helpful in autocompleteing long nicks...
[05:20] <JasonWoof> how do I disable mouse button 6?
[05:20] <Gork> How do I tell if my installed version of ubuntu 8.04 is the 32bit or 64bit version???
[05:20] <l337ingDisorder> Odd-rationale: oohhh thanks, that'll save a ton of time
[05:20] <Odd-rationale> Gork: "lsb_release -a" ?
[05:20] <l337ingDisorder> Odd-rationale: wish I knew about that years ago rofl
[05:21] <Odd-rationale> l337ingDisorder: lol
[05:21] <IntuitiveNipple> Gork: uname -m
[05:21] <l337ingDisorder> Odd-rationale: hah you were right - i just booted to normal runlevel (5) and shazam, it works without me having to start it
[05:21] <Gork> IntuitiveNipple: Thanks
[05:21] <l337ingDisorder> shazam is still an ok word to use isn't it? the PC police haven't taken that one from us yet have they?
[05:22] <SchmittyDoesIt> l337ingDisorder:  the US actually sold the word 'shazam' to china for 5 million dollars
[05:23] <tyler_d> reconfiguring locales to use US?
[05:23] <l337ingDisorder> uh oh... don't tell anyone, i don't want to have to pay royalties!!
[05:23] <pdlnhrd> anyone using the ati drivers that could give some help?
[05:23] <SchmittyDoesIt> lol
[05:23] <Odd-rationale> pdlnhrd: i'm using the open-source ones...
[05:23] <standarshy> Hey guys, I'm having a problem with the update manager.  I posted the error at http://paste2.org/p/83712
[05:24] <l337ingDisorder> ok so looks like my ssh is set up so thanks again for the help!!
[05:24] <pdlnhrd> Odd-rationale:  do you have dual head setup?
[05:24] <Odd-rationale> pdlnhrd: no. sorry...
[05:24] <yao_ziyuan> network-manager is always automatically installed when some meta package is updated. is there a way to never let network-manager be installed?
[05:24] <pdlnhrd> I have two 28 inch monitors and two radeon 5400's that i can't use together  :(
[05:24] <frybye> SchmittyDoesIt: ... along with 95% of everything else in the US - now the Finance industry itself is being hocked to chineese capital...
[05:25] <Geoffrey2> one more time, can anyone help me with a wireless problem?
[05:25] <frybye> sorry OT I know..
[05:25] <Odd-rationale> Geoffrey2: well, what chipset?
[05:25] <scunizi> !ask | Geoffrey2
[05:26] <frybye> Geoffrey2: just post the question itself - include details - what wireless card/chip - what fault report etc...
[05:26] <Odd-rationale> Geoffrey2: easiest way is to pastebin the output of "lspci"
[05:26] <macv1> ﻿ ﻿hi all... i'd like to change the fan settings on my ACER laptop....any ideas anyone or where i should look for help regarding this?????????
[05:27] <Geoffrey2> scunizi, I've asked in detail about a dozen times over the past three days, generally with no response...so please excuse me if I chose to wait for somebody who can help before elaborating
[05:27] <Odd-rationale> macv1: on some laptops, it can be adjusted in the bios...
[05:27] <frybye> Geoffrey2: that is not the way it is generally done here imho...
[05:27] <standarshy> Odd-rationale: Would you help me with a package error?
[05:27] <Odd-rationale> standarshy: depends... :P
[05:27] <standarshy> I'm having a problem with the update manager.  I posted the error at http://paste2.org/p/83712
[05:28] <macv1> ﻿Odd-rationale: i cant find any options in bios to change cutoff temp or any other fan settings
[05:28] <Doctor_Nick> THAT ONE
[05:28] <joshuajtl> has anyone succeded in sharing files with a virtual machine and ubuntu with virtualbox ose?
[05:28] <Indoctrine> Hi, Doctor_Nick!
[05:28] <pdlnhrd> joshuajti:  yeah... on all my machines
[05:28] <Odd-rationale> standarshy: tried that command with sudo? sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:28] <Geoffrey2> I have a Dell Inspiron 6000, several days ago, I suddenly lost wireless capability, I simply couldn't connect to the router...
[05:29] <standarshy> Odd-rationale: I have, I posted the result lower in the pastebin
[05:29] <kolie> Is there a way to run ubuntu under paravirtualization ( vmi? ) with vmware esx?
[05:29] <pdlnhrd> joshuajtl:  which one did you install?
[05:29] <standarshy> Odd-rationale: starting at line 8
[05:29] <scunizi> Geoffrey2, are you using any encryption?
[05:29] <Geoffrey2> WPA passkey
[05:30] <scunizi> Geoffrey2, have you tried eliminating all encryption on the router and your box to see if it will connect?
[05:30] <Geoffrey2> however, my fiancees laptop can hit the same router without problems...
[05:30] <joshuajtl> pdlnhrd: I'm running vista apparently xvm virtualbox version 1.6.6
[05:30] <frybye> Geoffrey2: also - have you at least tried re-starting the router... power off - wait a bit - poweron and retry...?
[05:30] <frybye> oh...
[05:31] <scunizi> Geoffrey2, is she on ubuntu too? or windows?
[05:31] <Geoffrey2> frybye, yes, I rebooted the router
[05:31] <Geoffrey2> windows vista
[05:31] <macv1> ﻿﻿hi all... i'd like to change the fan settings on my ACER laptop....﻿i cant find any options in bios to change cutoff temp or any other fan settings.................any ideas anyone or where i should look for help regarding this?????????
[05:31] <pdlnhrd> joshuajtl:  what is the host machine  ubuntu or vista?
[05:31] <standarshy> Odd-rationale: any  ideas?
[05:31] <joshuajtl> pdlnhrd: ubuntu
[05:31] <frybye> macv1: yeah of course - in google <grinn>
[05:31] <scunizi> Geoffrey2, so your issue is really with the wpa settings in ubuntu or lack of ubuntu keeping them..
[05:32] <Odd-rationale> standarshy: searching...
[05:32] <Geoffrey2> I believe I have this laptop back in roaming mode...usually it detects 1-2 other wireless routers in range, now it's not seeing any at all
[05:32] <frybye> scunizi: could be other stuff.. his wifi driver corrupted for ex...?
[05:32] <pdlnhrd> joshuajtl;  i don't use vista, but in xp if i go into network places i can see the ubuntu share, did you enable the sharing before you booted the vm?
[05:33] <scunizi> frybye, true.. I don't know wireless that will espicially with wpa.. can you help Geoffrey2
[05:33] <joshuajtl> pdlnhrd: yeah I did enable it before booting... but in network i dont see anything...
[05:33] <macv1> ﻿frybye: i tried googling but all the pages are about DELL or regarding chnges to be made in /proc...   i mean any other irc i can get help regarding this???
[05:33] <frybye> Geoffrey2: had you installed a custom wifi driver yourself - which perhaps needs to be re-istalled after every kernal update...?
[05:33] <pdlnhrd> joshuajtl:  let me boot up my vm real quick
[05:33] <Geoffrey2> ok, let me add a few details...
[05:33] <standarshy> frybye: I just noticed you asked to see the post.  It is http://paste2.org/p/83712
[05:34] <standarshy> frybye: Have you any ideas?
[05:35] <tyler_d> dpkg --configure -a shows Generating locales for en_AU.UTF-8, this is not my language.
[05:35] <tyler_d> ?
[05:35] <Geoffrey2> several days ago I was trying to fix a bug with my login screen...I changed to a plain login screen, at which point I couldn't even see the login window....after hitting numerous keys, I managed to get logged in and switched back to my old theme
[05:35] <frybye> standarshy: I was on about another ? - and must admit i am not an expert myself - more a nubie.. but somebody else can see it now...
[05:35] <Geoffrey2> from THAT point on wireless was gone
[05:36] <Odd-rationale> standarshy: when did this error fist occuer?
[05:36] <standarshy> i see, hmm
[05:36] <standarshy> Odd-rationale: I just installed it ubuntu today and was trying to update it
[05:36] <genii> Geoffrey2: Maybe you hit a combo which disables your wifi adapter. Some laptops have this
[05:36] <frybye> Geoffrey2: I admit my suggestion now is not a typical -linux-way- of solving such a question - but do you happen to have an image you made before the above change..?
[05:37] <Odd-rationale> standarshy: what version of ubuntu?
[05:37] <jasuus> i still dont understand how i can have a file who is owned by root, protected, which i cant open via terminal, but i can click and drag it into the trash
[05:37] <frybye> Geoffrey2: is this on a laptop with an indicator light for when the wifi signal is being detected??? if so - is it there or...?
[05:37] <frybye> if off - you may have disabled it..
[05:38] <standarshy> 8.04-1
[05:38] <pdlnhrd> joshuatl:  machine or transient folders?
[05:38] <frybye> another thing is - on the front of many laptops there is a small slider-switch which disables wifi.. that tends to get hit unnoticed occasionally..
[05:38] <standarshy> Odd-rationale: 8.04-1, the newest one
[05:38] <Xcerca> whats a good c++ development environment that i can use in ubuntu ?
[05:38] <Geoffrey2> my wi/fi light is lit, ifconfig shows wlan0 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST
[05:38] <Odd-rationale> standarshy: well, since you just installed it, i guess you could go ahead and do a reinstall... as i really don't know what is the issue...
[05:39] <Odd-rationale> standarshy: how did you try to update?
[05:39] <standarshy> I may try that
[05:40] <genii> standarshy: i/o error usually indicates hd bad areas or sometimes full. What reports  df -h     ?
[05:40] <standarshy> Odd-rationale: I tried to update by clicking the notice on the system bar
[05:40] <pdlnhrd> joshuatl:  i have mine set as machine folder and it shows up find inside xp... sorry i wish i knew why it doesn't work for you, but i just tested it and it does work
[05:40] <standarshy> Odd-rationale:  I'm sory, what do you mean by df -h?
[05:41] <Odd-rationale> standarshy: run "df -h" in a terminal aste pastebin the output...
[05:41] <Odd-rationale> standarshy: that was genii, btw...
[05:41] <standarshy> ok
[05:41] <genii> standarshy: That was me and not Odd-rationale. df -h     reports the free space remaining on hard drive
[05:41] <pdlnhrd> joshuatl:  did you try to add it as a network place?  (sorry don't know vista terms)
[05:41] <genii> standarshy: An extremely low number can explain if it is full or so
[05:41] <hassan_> exit
[05:42] <Odd-rationale> hassan_: fail
[05:42] <standarshy> Odd-rationale: geni My mistake
[05:42] <joshuajtl> pdlnhrd: yeah didnt see any network places... so i'm going to try updating to virtualbox 2
[05:42] <frybye> Odd-rationale: heheh
[05:42] <genii> (low number under heading "Avail" )
[05:42] <standarshy> genii: http://paste2.org/p/83717
[05:42] <Geoffrey2> frybye, the light is on
[05:42] <pdlnhrd> josuajtl:  i used the one from the actual website  they have .debs to download
[05:42] <frybye> Geoffrey2: sorry pal i am outa ideas.. dont have the knowledge needed to go deeper into this...
[05:43] <Xcerca> is eclipe a good program for development ?
[05:43] <genii> standarshy: OK, space is not the issue then. Can be the drive is experiencing some bad areas on it. Suggest to run filesystem check from recovery kernel boot, or from livecd
[05:43] <frybye> Geoffrey2: I have had the problem with an eeepc using a self-installed wifi driver that after a kernal update had to be re-installed.. but... if this has any relevance to your situation i dont know...
[05:44] <Xcerca> for writing c++, or is there something even better ?
[05:44] <standarshy> I have recently run a scandisk from windows
[05:44] <standarshy> and degfrag
[05:44] <Odd-rationale> Xcerca: well, the best way would be to try out several and decide which one you like best... (dont forget to try out vim :P )
[05:44] <Gork> How do I start up the nvidia control panel or menu from command line?
[05:45] <frybye> Geoffrey2: unfortunatly it can sometimes take a couple of days on here (at best at different times-of-the-day to reach different public...) before one lands somebody who really kn ow this or that particual area...
[05:45] <Sloucher> how do a grep a word and see if it's a regular expression
[05:45] <Xcerca> ﻿Odd-rationale , vim ...  then what do you use as a complier ?
[05:45] <Geoffrey2> frybye, as I recall, my wireless is supported out of the box starting with Heron
[05:45] <genii> standarshy: Thats not the same as running fsck from in linux. Windows can only check windows filesystems
[05:45] <frybye> Geoffrey2: then the above would nto be the issue..hmmm
[05:45] <Odd-rationale> Gork: nvidia-config?
[05:45] <standarshy> can i run fsck from the terminal?
[05:45] <Odd-rationale> Gork: nvidia-settings, i mean
[05:46] <frybye> Geoffrey2: and you dont have a guru locally that you can lean on???
[05:46] <Odd-rationale> Xcerca: gcc ?
[05:46] <Gork> Thanks
[05:46] <frybye> i used too but lost contact recently.. shame shame...
[05:46] <Xcerca> ﻿Odd-rationale  ,  thanks
[05:46] <Geoffrey2> for linux? none that I know of
[05:47] <frybye> Geoffrey2: my trick (as a brit living in berlin-) was to go on the ubuntu-berlin mailing list and offer a knowledge-swap - engl. conversation <> linux help .. worked for a while ...
[05:47] <jerasimos> hello Tiven
[05:47] <jerasimos> Hello to everyone...
[05:47] <Odd-rationale> !hi | jerasimos
[05:48] <standarshy> genii: How do I run fsck?
[05:48] <frybye> only one of the 2 guys who responded was super hot on his linux - had worked for years in commercial/prof. support - 2nd/3rd level support etc.. but no lost touch - he has lost interest whatever..
[05:48] <jerasimos> Glad to be here, Odd.../everyone
[05:48] <jjulian> is there any possibility to install a menu.lst or to get a plain one?
[05:48] <jjulian> with a command?
[05:48] <jjulian> cause after installation i dont have one!!!!
[05:48] <Odd-rationale> standarshy: generally, unless you have a boot entry for it, you need to be in a livecd...as the disk should be unmounted...
[05:49] <jerasimos> Rationale/ubottu...I will be observing and learning
[05:49] <Geoffrey2> Broadcom BCM4311 Airforce 54g
[05:49] <Odd-rationale> standarshy: then, it would be as simple as: fsck /dev/<devicename>
[05:50] <standarshy> Odd-rationale:  hmm, I would have to burn the livecd then because I installed it through wubi
[05:50] <Geoffrey2> I probably need to try earlier in the day when there's more people on
[05:50] <Odd-rationale> standarshy: oh this is a wubi install? then fsck would not work...
[05:50] <Odd-rationale> standarshy: did you defrag in windows?
[05:50] <genii> standarshy: Boot into recovery kernel. Then know what partition/device your / is normally.    You can usually find this by result of: mount       the line which has something like: /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro)          tells you. Then issue: fsck /dev/sda1   (in this case, your /dev may be different!)
[05:50] <frybye> Geoffrey2: there must be a way of re-installing/re-config the driver for  it - dont ask me how though...
[05:51] <standarshy> Odd-rationale: I defraged the drive
[05:51] <elfgoh> Would any1 have problems installing the nvidia proprietary driver using restricted driver manager in the latest intrepid beta?
[05:51] <frybye> Geoffrey2: - early in the days"" is relative.. I will be off to work soon...
[05:51] <frybye> 96:51am
[05:51] <genii> standarshy: You can go from recovery mode to normal after repairs with: telinit 2
[05:51] <frybye> 06:51am
[05:51] <outbri> elfgoh: try asking in #ubuntu+1, intrepid specific channel
[05:52] <Odd-rationale> standarshy: may be a wubi bug... (you should repartition like a real man... :P )
[05:52] <elfgoh> outbri: tks
[05:52] <yao_ziyuan> i dont know why: good packages like gimp 2.6 isn't updated; bad packages like network-manager is updated...
[05:52] <jerasimos> leaving channel for now...
[05:52] <jerasimos> thank you for hospitality.
[05:52] <genii> Odd-rationale: Ah wubi
[05:52] <jerasimos> c-u.
[05:52] <Odd-rationale> genii: yeah, wubi... :(
[05:52]  * genii hates wubi
[05:53]  * Odd-rationale hasn't tried wubi...
[05:53] <jasuus> how do you do that with your name?
[05:53] <standarshy> Odd-rationale: Unforunately I am unable to repartition the drive.  I wanted to shink the partition through vista but I was unable to by more than 500 mb
[05:53]  * jasuus hum
[05:53] <jasuus> ah
[05:53] <outbri> ***hum
[05:54] <Odd-rationale> standarshy: that is correct... vista can only do that...
[05:54] <Odd-rationale> standarshy: shrink the parition with the ubuntu installer instead... but you can only make it 25% less at a time i think as well...
[05:55] <carandraug> anyone knows how to have three different windows (all pdf in this case) to equally divide the screen side by side? I'm using Gnome and compiz
[05:55] <Odd-rationale> carandraug: i *think* compiz has a tiling plugin...
[05:56] <standarshy> ahh, so I can shrink the partition under options if I burn the image and boot from it to install?
[05:56] <carandraug> some WM such as ion and ratpoison allow this. How to do it compiz?
[05:56] <Guest46698> hi .. im new to ubuntu .. is there an equivalent software to limewire for ubuntu ? or else what is the best software to download music .. individual files only .. torrents make you download the entire album
[05:56] <tyler_d> ok so alt-f2 will get you into an rc session.... how do I force kill an rc session?
[05:56] <carandraug> Odd-rationale: you know exactly where?
[05:56] <Odd-rationale> standarshy: yes...
[05:56] <corinth> Where is the key located in gconf-editor that controls what happens when I double-click a titlebar in gnome?
[05:56] <carandraug> Odd-rationale: the options menu is so extense
[05:56] <genii> !info frostwire | Guest46698
[05:56] <genii> hmm
[05:56] <genii> !frostwire
[05:57] <Odd-rationale> standarshy: don't remember... :( been a while since i used compiz-fuion...
[05:57] <Odd-rationale> carandraug: don't remember... :( been a while since i used compiz-fuion...
[05:57] <Guest46698> genii: i tried that ... i dont think it works with hardy
[05:57] <Odd-rationale> standarshy: sorry, that was meant for carandraug
[05:57] <carandraug> Odd-rationale: ok. Thanks anyway. I'll look for it
[05:58] <macv1> hi.... could anyone suggest which software to use for ripping audio from a video file?
[05:58] <macv1>  
[05:58] <standarshy> Odd-rationale: that's brilliant!  I'll definately install it the regular way then
[05:58] <danbh_intrepid> macv1: maybe try LiVES
[05:58] <Odd-rationale> standarshy: good :D
[05:59] <standarshy> Odd-rationale: Just to make sure before I make a mistake, are there any specific instructions I should remember?
[05:59] <macv1> ﻿ danbh_intrepid: is it in the repos?
[05:59] <danbh_intrepid> no
[05:59] <smm289> unvu failed to query video, something, something, something. while trying to come out of hibernate, hardy.  Any ideas?
[05:59] <omolina> hi all
[05:59] <Odd-rationale> standarshy: take a quick search in the ubuntu wiki about dual-booting...
[05:59] <smm289> or unvc, I forgot already, lol
[05:59] <standarshy> alright
[05:59] <standarshy> thanks
[05:59] <standarshy> peace
[06:00] <danbh_intrepid> macv1: I made this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Video%20Editors
[06:01] <danbh_intrepid> macv1: if you find more video editors, add'm up!   I don't know much about video editing, or video editors on linux, so...
[06:02] <omolina> someone used MonoDevelop?
[06:02] <macv1> ﻿ danbh_intrepid: but lives seems to only edit videos.... i want to extract the audio from the video...  i'v tried avidemux... that too doesnt edit the audio.... vlc hangs sometimes...
[06:03] <danbh_intrepid> macv1: well, I would assume that some sort of video editor would have the option to separate out the audio
[06:03] <nooomem> k, I have 2 seperate computers running ubuntu - I want to run a video between the two monitors connected to the computers without changing the monitor setups, is this doable?
[06:03] <Odd-rationale> nooomem: like a kvm switch?
[06:04] <jasuus> macv1: have you tried playing the movie and then setting a tape-recorder real close to the speaker?
[06:04] <carpediem> nooomem: you can run a video on a different computer over the network
[06:04] <macv1> ﻿ danbh_intrepid: previously in XP i used to use nero tools  for editing the audio from avi... but nero linux doesnt seem to have that software!!!
[06:04] <macv1> ﻿jasuus: i want to use as mp3 ....
[06:05] <nooomem> carpediem: I mean, I want to run one video using both monitors
[06:05] <carpediem> nooomem: but to tell you how, I'd need more specifics.  not totally sure what you are trying to do.
[06:05] <nooomem> carpediem: or any arbitrary application for that matter
[06:05] <carpediem> nooomem: do you mean spanned?  or duplicated?
[06:05] <Geoffrey2> here's the thing about the wireless though...it's not just a matter of not being able to connect to the router..I can't even get ubuntu to admit I even have a wireless router
[06:05] <bugaloo> no webcam on default instalation of Ubuntu-eee for eeePC. Any help?
[06:05] <jasuus> macv1 : mplayer?
[06:05] <macv1> anyone using ubuntu studio??? they might have some info bout this...
[06:05] <nooomem> carpediem: but I'd be happy enough with video for now
[06:06] <nooomem> carpediem: spanned
[06:06] <jasuus> macv1: as in mplayer -dumpaudio
[06:06] <macv1> ﻿jasuus: i hated mplayer... so removed it,....are u using mplayer?
[06:06] <jim_p> hi guys
[06:06] <jasuus> yea
[06:06] <jim_p> macv1: me too!
[06:06] <jim_p> macv1: i use mplayer i mean
[06:06] <jasuus> mplayer -dumpaudio -dumpfile movie_audio.mp3 will do it
[06:07] <carpediem> nooomem: eh, really, only way I know to do that is going to be VNC, which isn't going to be good for video.  Its trivial to remotely display an application on a different computer via ssh, but spanned between two computers is...a different story entirely
[06:07] <nooomem> carpediem: sorry, say again if you answered
[06:07] <jim_p> bugaloo: the camera is built in on the eeepc tight? do an lspci
[06:07] <jasuus> macv1: heres a link http://www.linuxmonitor.net/blog/2007/03/extract-audio-from-video-or-online.html
[06:07] <carpediem> nooomem: eh, really, only way I know to do that is going to be VNC, which isn't going to be good for video.  Its trivial to remotely display an application on a different computer via ssh, but spanned between two computers is...a different story entirely
[06:07] <tarrant> Hey when I attempt to play a video (xine, totem-xine, or vlc) I get a strong blue/green tint. In my "multimedia-settings" panel I can disable Xv and colors display correctly but it doesn't apply over to vlc. Any help?
[06:08] <macv1> ﻿jasuus: thanx...
[06:08] <jim_p> tarrant: use some outher output like gl
[06:08] <nooomem> carpediem: in theory, if both computers have access to the file on some common network share, they should be able to intelligently say, ok - you draw this section, I'll draw this section
[06:08] <tarrant> jim_p: how do I specify this?
[06:09] <nooomem> carpediem: but something that does this seamlessly and scales well to more than just two monitors is asking a bit much may be
[06:09] <bugaloo> jim_p: built in, yes
[06:09] <tarrant> nvm think I got it.
[06:09] <jim_p> tarrant: it is inside each players options. video out options
[06:09] <carpediem> nooomem: well, just a sec...
[06:09] <jim_p> bugaloo: lspci?
[06:10] <smm289> what would it take to be able to vnc to a ubuntu client that is at the login prompt
[06:10] <smm289> i'm vinegra, hardy
[06:10] <smm289> using
[06:11] <bugaloo> jim_p: not sure about what I should see
[06:11] <bugaloo> I was using windows (buy with) and it was working
[06:11] <bugaloo> now I cut windows off and installed ubuntu eee
[06:11] <bugaloo> I cant see webcam on lspci
[06:11] <FloodBot2> bugaloo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:11] <bugaloo> but I'm not sure about how it should be shown
[06:11] <jim_p> bugaloo: paste the output of lspci somewhere
[06:11] <bugaloo> jim_p: ok, just a second
[06:12] <ango> hello
[06:13] <skinnymg1> hello
[06:13] <skinnymg1> how is everyone
[06:13] <bugaloo> jim_p: paste.ubuntu.com/55172
[06:14] <IntuitiveNipple> bugaloo: built-in webcam? Usually USB: use the command lsusb
[06:15] <jim_p> bugaloo: what eeepc model do you have?
[06:15] <bugaloo> IntuitiveNipple: humm...
[06:15] <bugaloo> jim_p: eeepc 4g?
[06:15] <bugaloo> IntuitiveNipple: on lsusb I have "eMPIA technology inc."
[06:15] <bugaloo> I dont what this is
[06:15] <jim_p> bugaloo: eeepc 1000, 901, 701 etc
[06:16] <IntuitiveNipple> bugaloo: Show the vendor:product ID, e.g. 054a:4056
[06:16] <RudyValencia> Hi, is it possible to have a different logo / colors for the startup splash?
[06:17] <bugaloo> 0951:1606
[06:17] <jim_p> RudyValencia: yes, look on how to change usplash
[06:17] <jim_p> !usplash
[06:18] <jjulian> weird install error with gutsy i had problems creating the filesystems and partitions, on dev/sdb nothing was mounted besides /dev/sda1 after unmounting it i could create the partitions and fs ... weirdo
[06:18] <IntuitiveNipple> bugaloo: I think that is a memory-card reader ID :) bugalo, post the "lsusb" output to pastebin please
[06:18] <RudyValencia> ah
[06:18] <RudyValencia> cool
[06:18] <DBurke> What's the pastebin?
[06:19] <bugaloo> jim_p: sorry, how can I find that?
[06:19] <bugaloo> IntuitiveNipple: ok, just a second
[06:20] <bugaloo> DBurke: a website where you can paste something to others see
[06:20] <bugaloo> IntuitiveNipple: paste.ubuntu.com/55175
[06:20] <DBurke> bugaloo: Ah, I see.  Thanks.
[06:20] <baldur> hi i got a proplem with my sound on my new ubuntu set up i can make it work with media inside the computer but not when playing on websites
[06:20] <jim_p> bugaloo: there must be a sticker somewhere on the laptop saying its model!
[06:20] <baldur> like youtube
[06:20] <jim_p> !flash
[06:21] <jim_p> nope
[06:21] <RudyValencia> !gnash
[06:21] <jmichels1n> so I have an install of ubuntu and I have /home mounted on a seperate drive. I need to wipe the machine, when reinstalling ubuntu how do I tell the system to remount the home in the proper location?
[06:21] <frybye> Baldur - you probably also need the package mplayer...
[06:21] <carpediem> ubottu's flash advice is lacking.
[06:21] <godmode117> hi, i need help with flash (audio), after installing my new soundcard i have no sound from flash files in firefox. Audio works fine evrywhere else though
[06:21] <bugaloo> jim_p: sorry... only asus eeepc 4g on bottom case
[06:21] <IntuitiveNipple> bugaloo: I think you need to enable the camera first. Do this then redo the lsub command; you should see another device listed: sudo sh -c "echo 1 > /proc/acpi/asus/camera"
[06:21] <baldur> frybye:  ahh yes how do i do that again
[06:21] <bugaloo> IntuitiveNipple: trying
[06:22] <frybye> baldur: us google to search for installing medibuntu repositories is a good idea for media suppoort
[06:22] <Flannel> IntuitiveNipple, bugaloo: echo "1" | sudo tee /proc/acpi/asus/camera
[06:22] <carpediem> baldur: the real solution is "sudo apt-get install libflashsupport"
[06:22] <demism> how does ubuntu load scripts?
[06:22] <mklebel> no XGL in 8.10?
[06:22] <Flannel> mklebel: #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid discussion, thanks.
[06:22] <IntuitiveNipple> bugaloo: lsusb should show an additional entry, something like "046d:c041 Logitech, Inc"
[06:22] <jmichels1n> can I edit the fstab during install to mount the external home drive? I have never edited files on the system during install? will there be any problems when I create the username?
[06:23] <bugaloo> trying the proc command, just a second
[06:23] <frybye> baldur: go to system-administration - start synaptic  then go to packets and add a tick against "3rd-party sources" of similar..
[06:23] <frybye> then search for the package mplayer a f t e r refreshing the list - top left in synaptic window...
[06:23] <IntuitiveNipple> Flannel: Sometimes, it is best to keep the command to be executed clear to avoid too much confusion.
[06:23] <frybye> sorry I cant tell you the exact words for the various things cos I have the German language os here...
[06:24] <bugaloo> IntuitiveNipple: it was already "1"
[06:24] <jim_p> jmichels1n: one at a time. yes about fstab, but it needs some parameters. can you please be more specific with the other 2?
[06:24] <Flannel> IntuitiveNipple: It's still obvious.  sudo sh isn't any good when there are better alternatives.
[06:24] <IntuitiveNipple> bugaloo: That sounds good
[06:24] <lakitu> hey. i got some data that has viruses in it, & when i put it on a partition that drive becomes unbootable. i need to clean the data (at least that is the only hope i know of), but i can only access the data in ubuntu. what is a good virus scanner for ubuntu? i tried avast, & it gave me errors when i tried to remove the viruses, & AVG didn't detect them. any suggestions?
[06:24] <jmichels1n> jim_p: so I have an install of ubuntu and I have /home mounted on a seperate drive. I need to wipe the machine, when reinstalling ubuntu how do I tell the system to remount the home in the proper location?
[06:24] <Freakin_Busy> i'm trying to format a USB drive to FAT32... but i keep getting errors that it does not exist... any ideas?
[06:24] <lakitu> (did avast not work because i was working from the live cd, perhaps?)
[06:24] <godmode117> hi, i need help with flash (audio), after installing my new soundcard i have no sound from flash files in firefox. Audio works fine evrywhere else though
[06:24] <bugaloo> IntuitiveNipple: I forgot to say something...
[06:25] <jmichels1n> jim_p: I guess I can do it the same way I did it the first time, mount the external home partition over the one created on install..
[06:25] <baldur> frybye:  cant find it
[06:25] <bugaloo> IntuitiveNipple: before I install, I tried ubuntu-eee from usb pendrive... and it worked with webcam
[06:25] <frybye> Freakin_Busy: what appl are u suing - gparted??
[06:25] <jim_p> jmichels1n: you will selecrt custom installation, and set the proper mountpoints in fstab
[06:25] <Freakin_Busy> frybye, yes
[06:25] <bugaloo> only after installing on harddisk I can't use it
[06:25] <frybye> baldur: system-administration - you have it??
[06:25] <carpediem> The problem with Flash sound not working (solved by using libflashsupport) is not covered on that the link that ubottu gives out.  So for the love of all that's holy, could we stop using ubottu as a crutch, when he doesn't even answer the question.
[06:25] <frybye> then PacketManager - Synaptic
[06:25] <baldur> frybye:  i found syaptic package thiny but cant find the tick against 3rd partu sources
[06:26] <frybye> firts to Packets or Sources or whatever..
[06:26] <jmichels1n> jim_p: ah great, that will work, thanks
[06:26] <frybye> hang on - like i say I have the German one here.. wait a min please..
[06:26] <n-iCe> any idea trying to access via ssh:  stdin: is not a tty
[06:26] <genii> carpediem: Why not edit the page he points to to reflect the solution
[06:26] <baldur> frybye:  i have found synapatic package manegment
[06:27] <baldur> frybye:  but i cant find the tick in there
[06:27] <Freakin_Busy> balder go System>admin>=Software sources
[06:27] <frybye> settings|repositories
[06:27] <frybye> in synaptic
[06:27] <IntuitiveNipple> bugaloo: http://www.ubuntu-eee.com/wiki/index.php5?title=EeePC_901#Webcam_.26_Bluetooth
[06:27] <frybye> or like he says...
[06:27] <hathiwala> how to solve libx11 error while installing gtk 2.14.3
[06:27] <frybye> either way it amounts to the same...
[06:27] <genii> carpediem: Although I agree with you about the bot being used as a crutch
[06:28] <hathiwala> how to solve libx11 error while installing gtk 2.14.3
[06:28] <hathiwala> how to solve libx11 error while installing gtk 2.14.3	
[06:28] <Freakin_Busy> frybye, you know why my usb don't format?
[06:28] <baldur> frybye:  found it
[06:28] <IntuitiveNipple> bugaloo: In particular, pay attention to the paragraph that begins "The webcam and bluetooth module are disabled by default in the BIOS, you need to turn them on"
[06:28] <baldur> frybye:  what should i add there
[06:28] <bugaloo> IntuitiveNipple: I already did it...
[06:29] <carpediem> genii: really, that is a good question, and I probably should do that.  Kind of annoying it requires a log in
[06:29] <bugaloo> as I said, I was using it with live pendrive
[06:29] <n-iCe> stdin: is not a tty any ideas trying on ssh
[06:29] <jim_p> hathiwala: how do you install gtk2.14.3?
[06:29] <dontchoke> i dont have whois on my system, which one shouldl i use from here?
[06:29] <dontchoke> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=names&keywords=whois
[06:29] <hathiwala> jim_p i have downloaded tar file
[06:29] <qbmaniac> what is the "SUPER" key?
[06:29] <qbmaniac> i mean
[06:29] <qbmaniac> which one is it'
[06:29] <hathiwala> i have installed atk cario & other supported library
[06:29] <jim_p> hathiwala: and you will compile it from source?
[06:29] <bugaloo> but I'll try to download and compile the driver... but not now... it's 02:30am here... I'm going to sleep... no more tries for today, heh... thanks, I'll try these instructions tomorrow
[06:30] <baldur> frybye:  what should i add there
[06:30] <frybye> ubuntu partners and non-free
[06:30] <genii> qbmaniac: The one with the Windows logo on it
[06:30] <smm289> remote desktop into a client that is at the login screen, using Vinegra ? Hardy
[06:30] <hathiwala> yes
[06:30] <qbmaniac> ah thanks !!
[06:30] <qbmaniac> =)
[06:30] <frybye> under third parts...
[06:30] <hathiwala> but while compiling i m getting error of libx11
[06:30] <IntuitiveNipple> bugaloo: That article suggests the camera is UVC, so the uvcvideo kernel module should be handling it. However, if the webcam isn't listed by lsusb the driver can't do anything. Somehow the webcam is currently turned off, it seems.
[06:30] <frybye> and like I said before - use google to find the info on adding medibuntu repositories and also how to add thier pgp keys...
[06:30] <baldur> yeahh should i add some website
[06:30] <IntuitiveNipple> bugaloo: Building the driver won't help right now - the issue is, enabling the webcam so it is found as a USb device.
[06:31] <baldur> frybye: it shows be two web sites should i tick them or add some new ones
[06:31] <hathiwala> Jim_p: it says libX11 not found
[06:31] <baldur> frybye:  ahh ok geti
[06:31] <iceer123> hackbozy
[06:31] <iceer123> hackbozy
[06:31] <iceer123> hackbozy
[06:31] <FloodBot2> iceer123: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:31] <jim_p> hathiwala: yea but you try to install it from SOURCE? why?
[06:31] <T3hWiz0rd> does anyone here have a solution for the "PNG header and library versions do not match
[06:31] <bugaloo> IntuitiveNipple: but it's enabled on BIOS
[06:31] <T3hWiz0rd> problem in savage 2.0?
[06:31] <dontchoke> can someone tell me what a.deb file is?
[06:31] <bugaloo> what is missing?
[06:31] <frybye> baldur: again - first - add the sources already mentioned in the thing.. then in a d d i t i o n to that use google to find info on "adding medibuntu repositories ubuntu" ok?
[06:32] <iceer123> hackbozy
[06:32] <FAJALOU> !deb | dontchoke
[06:32] <hathiwala> jim_p: i am installing latest version of gambas it requres gtk 2.14.3
[06:32] <iceer123> hackbozy
[06:32] <iceer123> hackbozy
[06:32] <FloodBot2> iceer123: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:32] <bugaloo> jim_p: I found the model on BIOS now... it's asus 701
[06:32] <sjea> how do i handle bin cue files
[06:32] <unop> !ops | iceer123
[06:32] <baldur> frybye:  aight i allredy found that i will do
[06:32] <sjea> !bin
[06:32] <T3hWiz0rd> gerr that fragmented... gonna try again... does anyone have a workaround for the "PNG header and library versions do not match" problem with 8.04 and savage 2.0?
[06:32] <jim_p> bugaloo: lol, let me search
[06:32] <IntuitiveNipple> bugaloo: regardless of what it reports, if the USB device isn't reported then something has disabled it. That is what you need to focus on. Once it appears in the lsusb results, the driver will handle it.
[06:32] <sjea> !cue
[06:32] <iceer123> hackbozy
[06:32] <iceer123> hackbozy
[06:32] <tyler_d> looking to force rollback a failed upgrade using dpkg?
[06:32] <root> hello
[06:33] <bugaloo> IntuitiveNipple: so, the lsusb should show any "Logitech" device, is that right?
[06:33] <Guest75696> got a issue with filesystems and xfs expand
[06:33] <n-iCe> any idea trying to access via ssh:  stdin: is not a tty
[06:33] <pan__> how do i control fan
[06:33] <FAJALOU> !ask | Guest
[06:33] <hathiwala> jim_p: can u help me to install GTK ?
[06:33] <carpediem> genii: okay, took your advice, and updated the page.  I'm still going to start a petition to ban ubottu
[06:33] <jim_p> hathiwala: gtk is a serious element of gnome, you may break something if compiling goes wrong. now that i warned you, install libx11-dev
[06:33] <unop> tyler_d, if you have the deb for the previous version, install it with dpkg
[06:33] <frybye> baldur: good - when you have got the medibuntu sources added - then refresh the list in synaptic and search for "mp3" and it will offer stuff for media suport - try searching google for "zdnet ubuntu multimedia support" or similar.. for an article on what exactly to add...
[06:34] <baldur> frybye:  ok
[06:34] <hathiwala> jim_p: no problem if it crash then i will reinstall it
[06:34] <IntuitiveNipple> bugaloo: I'm not sure precisely what lsusb will report, but from everything I've read on the eee the webcam is currently not listed.
[06:34] <frybye> baldur - have  a nice day - I am off to work now.. bye#
[06:34] <dontchoke> wow
[06:34] <jim_p> hathiwala: your call!
[06:34] <dontchoke> to install a deb file you only have to dpkg
[06:34] <tyler_d> ﻿unop: comes back saying that dpkg didn't complete, please run dpkg --configure -a
[06:34] <hathiwala> jim_p: libx11-dev is already installed
[06:34] <dontchoke> and that installs everyting?
[06:34] <FAJALOU> dontchoke:  yes
[06:34] <hathiwala> still geting same error
[06:34] <dontchoke> wow easy
[06:35] <IntuitiveNipple> bugaloo: According to Gentoo, the ID of the webcam on the 701 is eb1a:2761
[06:35] <dontchoke> is that a debian thing?
[06:35] <Flannel> dontchoke: that does.  You need to use gdebi if you need to get dependencies though.
[06:35] <aquawicket> My Login screen keep looping..   If I Ctrl + Alt + F1  and type  /etc/init.d/gdm stop  I can stop it..   if I start it again..  same thing..
[06:35] <FAJALOU> dontchoke: deb is like a windows .exe...
[06:35] <FAJALOU> sorda
[06:35] <unop> tyler_d, i suppose you tried that then?
[06:35] <dontchoke> ah, so what about when its php or something
[06:35] <IntuitiveNipple> bugaloo: In which case, that is the first device reported.
[06:35] <tyler_d> ﻿unop: yes
[06:35] <aquawicket> tried startx also..   it failed
[06:35] <tyler_d> ﻿unop: do you know how I can reverse the failed upgrade?
[06:35] <unop> tyler_d, can you paste the complete output to the !pastebin?
[06:35] <genii> carpediem: :) Good work though on being part of a solution instead of just complaining and not doing anything, as most do
[06:35] <Flannel> tyler_d: Finish the upgrade
[06:36] <Area_51> !google earth
[06:36] <aquawicket> I think since i tried to compile a new X11 and make install..   I killed things
[06:36] <aquawicket> how do I get things back to normal?
[06:36] <jim_p> bugaloo: have you tried loading the ucvideo module?
[06:36] <tyler_d> ﻿Flannel: fails on the language locales
[06:36] <Flannel> tyler_d: That's a known bug, there's a workaround.
[06:36] <bugaloo> IntuitiveNipple: well... that lsusb that I pasted, there was a device on first reported
[06:36] <tyler_d> ﻿Flannel: states that en_AU.UTF-8﻿ is the locale however its not
[06:36] <IntuitiveNipple> bugaloo: Run this command - if you get a result it'll tell you which kernel module supports that device. If there is no result, you'll need to install/build the driver: egrep 'eb1a.*2761' /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/modules.usbmap
[06:37] <tyler_d> ﻿Flannel: I have tried the work-arounds... to no avail thus far
[06:37] <aquawicket> anyone?
[06:37] <bugaloo> I see...
[06:37] <Guest75696> hello guys, got an issued with expanding my xfs partition, i have a 3ware raid card and recently added more drives to my raid 5, fdisk shows that /dev/sda has 2TB  and that /dev/sda1 is a 1TB xfs partition but when i go to gparted to expand it, it refuses saying that partition cannot have length of -1 sectors
[06:37] <IntuitiveNipple> bugaloo: Yes, I noticed that *now* - first time I searched those IDs I got a result that indicated it was another type of device.
[06:37] <tyler_d> ﻿Flannel: locale indicates en_CA.UTF-8
[06:37] <Area_51> what program do i use to open google earth down load
[06:37] <Flannel> tyler_d: You tried killing the locales thing, and then finishing?
[06:38] <drumstyk1> could someone help me with my fstab? someone tried to help me make a partition automount and now i can't see it at all after rebooting...
[06:38] <Flannel> tyler_d: Its not just AU, theres a number of htem.
[06:38] <jim_p> drumstyk1: sure
[06:38] <bugaloo> well... I'll try a little more with your advices :)   If I can't make it work, I'll be back here soon :)
[06:38] <bugaloo> thanks a lot
[06:38] <Flannel> aquawicket: Where did you install them to?
[06:38] <tyler_d> ﻿Flannel: how would I kill the locales thing? ctrl-x doesn't help
[06:38] <aquawicket> X11?
[06:38] <aquawicket> I put it in my home directory    ./configure    make     make install
[06:38] <tyler_d> ﻿Flannel: I understand I need to have this changed to US in order to upgrade... however I cannot get it to change back
[06:39] <Flannel> tyler_d: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/249340  scroll down a bit, theres a post that walks you through it (although I suggest you read the full thread first)
[06:39] <hackbozy> iceer123
[06:39] <hackbozy> iceer123
[06:39] <hackbozy> iceer123
[06:39] <FloodBot2> hackbozy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:39] <aquawicket> now  startx  won't work.. so i think that's what i killed
[06:39] <TRIGG3R> hey guys, i have a buddy who has just installed ubuntu. everything is working beautifully except for the fact that there is no sound.  we have determined that his sound card is a sound blaster, emu10k1x.  i believe that he is just missing the drivers, however after searching have come up empty handed!!  Any help?
[06:39] <drumstyk1> thanks jim_p, can you remind me the command to open the fstab? something like gedit /fstab?
[06:39] <tyler_d> ﻿Flannel:
[06:39] <Flannel> aquawicket: Where did it intall? to /usr/ or /usr/local/?
[06:39] <jim_p> drumstyk1: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[06:39] <aquawicket> --prefix=/usr
[06:40] <drumstyk1> jim_p: /dev/sda3 /mnt/disk vfat fmask=111,dmask=000,auto 0 0
[06:40] <aquawicket> so my guess would be /usr    sry..  i'm new to linux
[06:40] <drumstyk1> i think that line is my problem
[06:40] <genii> jim_p: Please don't recommend to use sudo with graphical apps
[06:40] <Flannel> aquawicket: That was a mistake.  How hard would it be for you to reinstall? (home partition separate? relatively recent install?)
[06:40] <godmode117> hi, i need help with flash (audio), after installing my new soundcard i have no sound from flash files in firefox. Audio works fine evrywhere else though
[06:41] <Flannel> aquawicket: Things you compile always go to /usr/local/* (or your homedir).  /usr/* is for things controlled by package management.
[06:41] <aquawicket> not a huge deal..     I just spent about 3 hours stiing up and compiling libraries to start programming..    :P
[06:41] <jim_p> genii: i am more of a terminal guy, i would say nano instead. next time i will use gkdesu
[06:41] <Flannel> aquawicket: ah.  Good.  Reinstallation would be your best bet then.  Why were you compiling X anyway?
[06:41] <go_beep_yourself> unless you compile with this ./configure --prefix=/usr
[06:41] <jim_p> *gksu
[06:41] <aquawicket> so if i put in GTK+, wxWidgets and suck    /usr/local ?
[06:42] <TRIGG3R> hey guys, i have a buddy who has just installed ubuntu. everything is working beautifully except for the fact that there is no sound.  we have determined that his sound card is a sound blaster, emu10k1x.  i believe that he is just missing the drivers, however after searching have come up empty handed!!  Any help?
[06:42] <Flannel> aquawicket: Why are you compiling those things?
[06:42] <genii> jim_p: Depending on the app sudo can leave normal user locked out of it afterwards
[06:42] <aquawicket> for wxWidgets
[06:42] <Flannel> go_beep_yourself: No, that's wrong.  You *want* stuff in /usr/local/
[06:42] <aquawicket> wxGTK to be exact
[06:42] <Flannel> aquawicket: Whats wrong with the packages in the repositories?
[06:42] <aquawicket> like i said..   kinda new to linux.
[06:42] <go_beep_yourself> TRIGG3R-> im currently getting my xfi soundblaster titanium working right now, got sound through usb logitech headset tho
[06:42] <aquawicket> don't exactly know how to find em
[06:43] <go_beep_yourself> TRIGG3R-> and i already knew it would be some extra work before i bought the xfi
[06:43] <drumstyk1> any ideas of why i can't even see the partition anymore?
[06:43] <macv1> ﻿ danbh_intrepid: ﻿ jasuus: ﻿jim_p:  i realized that avidemux does the audio extraction too... just had to change a few settings
[06:43] <go_beep_yourself> TRIGG3R, is his card xfi?
[06:43] <TRIGG3R> go_beep_yourself: i believe i found the problem, as usaul it was something is, brb with results.
[06:43] <tyler_d> ﻿Flannel: /etc/locale.gen en_US en_US
[06:43] <tyler_d> reboot
[06:43] <tyler_d> dpkg --configure -a
[06:43] <tyler_d> so far so good.... further then it was and lang packages are going through... however I will note that the post you forwarded is extremely helpful, more so then the forums :(
[06:43] <FloodBot2> tyler_d: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:43] <aquawicket> ubuntu comes with  GTK+  ?
[06:44] <Flannel> aquawicket: Alright.  We have packages for development stuff.  Once you reinstall, check out Synaptic Package Manager, it's in system > administration. It'll let you install all sorts of goodies (including these libraries).  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto is some reading on how synaptic itself works, while you wait  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware might also be good to read
[06:44] <aquawicket> aww...  sweet
[06:44] <aquawicket> i like the sound of that
[06:44] <Flannel> tyler_d: That bug is linked from the "known issues" on the upgrade notes (which you should always check before upgrading)
[06:44] <drumstyk1> jim_p: any ideas or should i try someone else?
[06:44] <tyler_d> ﻿Flannel: ummmm.... of course I always check those ***sheepishly****
[06:45] <aquawicket> Thank you very much Flannel..    i'm off to reinstall ...    again..  lol
[06:45] <macv1> ﻿﻿﻿hi all... i'd like to change the fan settings on my ACER laptop....﻿i cant find any options in bios to change cutoff temp or any other fan settings.................any ideas anyone or where i should look for help regarding this?????????
[06:45] <Flannel> tyler_d: Well, from now on you'll remember ;)
[06:45] <jim_p> drumstyk1: can you repeat please?
[06:45] <drumstyk1> /dev/sda3 /mnt/disk vfat fmask=111,dmask=000,auto 0 0
[06:45] <lacostej> I have a failure to suspend. usualy it works. No message in syslog. I enabled --verbose for gnome-power-manager. Didn't help. Any idea on how to investigate ?
[06:45] <go_beep_yourself> macd__-> find out if they are pcm fans
[06:45] <drumstyk1> that is the line in my fstab that was changed and now i can't see the partition
[06:45] <hjay> hey guys, i'm unable to expand my xfs partition using gparted, it gives me an error "partition cannot have -1 sector lengths", it's a xfs partition on a 3ware raid5, current size 1TB, trying to add the extra 1tb i just expanded the array with
[06:45] <Flannel> aquawicket: Don't feel bad about reinstalling.  I reinstalled at least a dozen times when I was starting out.  One of the best ways to learn is to break things!  (well, as long as you don't lose anything in the process)
[06:46] <jim_p> drumstyk1: /dev/sda3 /mnt/disk vfat defaults 0 0
[06:46] <go_beep_yourself> macd__-> i meant pwm fans
[06:46] <FAJALOU> aquawicket:  i can second Flannel i have reinstalled on different computers at least 5 times
[06:46] <aquawicket> very true..    nah..  i got backups..  not gonna loos anything..   just wanna get to programming on linux   :)
[06:46] <FAJALOU> aquawicket: as long as /home is on separate partition that is ;)
[06:46] <FAJALOU> you always wanna do that
[06:46] <drumstyk1> wow, thanks jim_p, i will try that now!
[06:46] <carpediem> macv1: well, it looks like you are getting yourself into complicated territory, but anyway  http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_control_fan_speed
[06:46] <FAJALOU> you'll get there :)
[06:47] <aquawicket> ohh..   good pointer
[06:47] <carpediem> macv1: sorry, that seems to only support thinkpads
[06:47] <go_beep_yourself> how long on average does it take to compile a kernel in ubuntu with default .config?
[06:48] <l337ingDisorder> what's the fastest way to transfer a few small files from an ubuntu system to a debian etch system, neither of which are running any kind of ftp server (afaik)
[06:48] <FAJALOU> go_beep_yourself:  this is dangerous territory, fyi
[06:48] <FAJALOU> !kernel
[06:48] <go_beep_yourself> l337ingDisorder-> scp
[06:48] <go_beep_yourself> FAJALOU-> i know what im doing
[06:48] <go_beep_yourself> FAJALOU-> its compiling right now too
[06:48] <l337ingDisorder> i know the debian etch system is running scp but I'm not familiar with the command line syntax to send a file from this machine to the machine running the sshd
[06:48] <carpediem> l337ingDisorder: sftp
[06:49] <go_beep_yourself> FAJALOU-> but that doesnt answer my question
[06:49] <l337ingDisorder> carpediem ahh ok yea scp only seems to have syntax for downloading FROM the sshd server
[06:49] <FAJALOU> go_beep_yourself:  regardless if you know what you are doing, relatively dangerous, but go for it if you can, i think we all wish we had that skills.  and i dunno, i just use the one given to me ;)
[06:49] <l337ingDisorder> sftp will let me upload?
[06:49] <go_beep_yourself> l337ingDisorder-> not true
[06:49] <baldur> Hi im trying to installl the mediaubuntu thingy and i'm trying to put the APT line ine the sinapatic package management but it doesnt take it :(
[06:49] <l337ingDisorder> oh
[06:49] <hjay> hey guys, i'm unable to expand my xfs partition using gparted, it gives me an error "partition cannot have -1 sector lengths", it's a xfs partition on a 3ware raid5, current size 1TB, trying to add the extra 1tb i just expanded the array with, fdisk says the /dev/sda (the raid card) has 2TB and that /dev/sda1 (the current partition) is 1TB
[06:49] <carpediem> l337ingDisorder: yeah.  you can even do it in nautilus using sftp://myserver
[06:49] <go_beep_yourself> l337ingDisorder-> it can go both ways with scp
[06:49] <FAJALOU> baldur:  are you adding the lines in terminal?
[06:50] <baldur> no
[06:50] <baldur> FAJALOU: no
[06:50] <FAJALOU> !medibuntu | baldur
[06:50] <Kenthree> Hello; every time I add/edit files from windows to my ubuntu samba share the file owner changes to 'nobody'. I know about chown but am I doing something wrong?
[06:50] <FAJALOU> go to "repository how-to" and open up terminal and just follow the steps
[06:50] <vitk> hjay: did you make sure to read the man files for parted[gparted] or are you follow some specific guide?
[06:51] <baldur> FAJALOU: does it mean i cant listen to music trough my browser ?
[06:51] <l337ingDisorder> carpediem: awesome, thanks once more - you're a superhero tonight :)
[06:51] <baldur> FAJALOU: like on youtube and stuff ?
[06:51] <FAJALOU> baldur:  you should be able to open terminal and do all of that....
[06:51] <carpediem> l337ingDisorder: now that you are back, in response to a question you asked a long time ago.... install rcconf and then run it as root to enable ssh on startup
[06:51] <carpediem> dang
[06:51] <hjay> vitk: i looked it up and it saying nothing about this error, and google says nothing about there error
[06:51] <baldur> FAJALOU: ahh ok
[06:51] <baldur> FAJALOU:  let me try it
[06:52] <FAJALOU> baldur:  but the repository add how-to is literally copy and paste of two commands
[06:52] <godmode117> some one please help meh. no flash sound after new soundcard...
[06:52] <ChunkStyle> Can anyone please tell me why Skype wont install on Ubuntu? I get an error saying the architecture i386 is incompatible or some shit...
[06:52] <carpediem> godmode117: install libflashsupport
[06:52] <baldur> FAJALOU: yes i remember how i did it last time now
[06:52] <FAJALOU> !language | ChunkStyle
[06:53] <FAJALOU> ChunkStyle:  are you on an x64 bit computer?
[06:53] <carpediem> ChunkStyle: are you running the amd64 ubuntu?
[06:53] <Jacadry> hi guys, im having problems installing ubuntu on my new computer, i get "buffer i/o error on device fdo" any idées on how i can get pass this?
[06:53] <ChunkStyle> no
[06:53] <go_beep_yourself> FAJALOU-> i have to do this to get the soundblaster xfi titanium working in ubuntu and i was aware of it before i bought the card
[06:53] <baldur> FAJALOU:  done copy'ing what do i do then ?
[06:53] <FAJALOU> go_beep_yourself:  o ok then go for it :)
[06:53] <baldur> FAJALOU:  do i need to restart the browser
[06:53] <godmode117> carpediem: "sudo apt-get install libflashsupport"  ??
[06:53] <FAJALOU> baldur: shouldn't have to...
[06:53] <carpediem> godmode117: that'll do it
[06:54] <FAJALOU> baldur:  wait.
[06:54] <godmode117> ok thanks ill try it
[06:54] <FAJALOU> baldur:  open up terminal and type   sudo apt-get update
[06:54] <dman777> in the subdoers file, what does ALL=(ALL) mean?
[06:54] <ChunkStyle> i used the 7.0+ file from the website
[06:54] <FAJALOU> and then whatever package you were looking for should be there.
[06:54] <ChunkStyle> no luck
[06:54] <baldur> FAJALOU: doing it
[06:54] <FAJALOU> ChunkStyle:  use the one from the repos.  i think there is one...
[06:54] <Jacadry> hi guys, im having problems installing ubuntu on my new computer, i get "buffer i/o error on device fdo" any idées on how i can get pass this?
[06:54] <FAJALOU> !info skype | ChunkStyle
[06:54] <FAJALOU> my bad...
[06:55] <godmode117> carpediem: do i need to restart?
[06:55] <gusx> hi, this x package behave in a way in ubuntu 7.10 and in a differente way in ubuntu 8.4 , can i get the package from ubuntu 8.4 without upgrading ?
[06:55] <go_beep_yourself> FAJALOU-> takes a long time to compile, but it looks like its finishing up now
[06:55] <ChunkStyle> I dont see one
[06:55] <FAJALOU> go_beep_yourself:  huh ok cool that's neat
[06:55] <Natilous> Hi all, I want remaster ubuntu with some Network configurations...anyone can help me ?
[06:55] <baldur> FAJALOU:  not working gonna restart the browser
[06:55] <carpediem> godmode117: shouldn't....may need to restart firefox
[06:55] <FAJALOU> baldur: wait what are you doing?
[06:55] <pan__> acpi -t and sensors are 10 degress off?
[06:55] <FAJALOU> baldur:  PM?
[06:55] <pan__> which one is telling me the right temp?
[06:55] <coolpro> hey
[06:55] <go_beep_yourself> dpkg-deb: building package `linux-image-2.6.24.3-custom' in `../linux-image-2.6.24.3-custom_2.6.24.3-custom-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb'.
[06:55] <baldur> FAJALOU:  yes
[06:55] <coolpro> anybody can help me to test my blog?
[06:55] <godmode117> carpediem: i love you, it worked ;)
[06:56] <godmode117> thanks
[06:56] <macv1> ﻿ carpediem: checked out that fan speed link... could i do the same in acer too or would it mess up the system?
[06:56] <Natilous> Hi all, I want remaster ubuntu with some Network configurations...anyone can help me ?
[06:56] <pan__> acpi -t tells me 52C sensors tells me 41C
[06:56] <go_beep_yourself> coolpro-> is it a wordpress?
[06:56] <coolpro> yes.
[06:56] <carpediem> godmode117: sure thing
[06:56] <go_beep_yourself> coolpro-> sure, private message me
[06:56] <ChunkStyle> i dont get it
[06:56] <carpediem> macv1: hmm, I don't think it would hurt, but I don't think it would work at all
[06:57] <macv1> ﻿ carpediem: k..
[06:57] <carpediem> l337ingDisorder: don't leave....I've got one more thing for you
[06:57] <carpediem> l337ingDisorder: in response to a Q you asked earlier.  Install rcconf, and run it as root to enable ssh on startup.
[06:57] <tyoc> which program can I use for edit video, crop size, select a time from 1:00 to 2:30 and so on?
[06:57] <l337ingDisorder> any idea why system -> preferences -> screensaver would show an empty list, even though I seem to have all the screensaver files in /usr/lib/xscreensaver that are supposed to be there?
[06:58] <Natilous> any help ????
[06:58] <drumstyk1> jim_p: my partition is still not showing up :(
[06:58] <drumstyk1> i can deal with the automount later but i do need stuff off of there tonight for school if u don't mind helping me out
[06:59] <l337ingDisorder> carpediem: you already helped me get it working: It was indeed set to start on boot-up, but I had been booting in runlevel 1. As soon as I booted to runlevel 5 i was able to log in remotely regardless of whether anyone was logged on
[06:59] <jim_p> drumstyk1: can you see its contentsd in /media/disk?
[06:59] <Spragie> why would anyone use windows ?
[06:59] <carpediem> l337ingDisorder: oh, okay
[06:59] <drumstyk1> no, doesn't show up at all
[06:59] <baldur> a
[06:59] <l337ingDisorder> spragie: because their boss demands it be a windows network, usually ;)
[07:00] <carpediem> l337ingDisorder: on your other Q....IMO gnome-screensaver is a POS.  I always end up installing xscreensaver
[07:00] <Flannel> Natilous: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[07:00] <l337ingDisorder> carpediem: I'm using xscreensaver
[07:00] <hjay> hey guys, i'm unable to expand my xfs partition using gparted, it gives me an error "partition cannot have -1 sector lengths", it's a xfs partition on a 3ware raid5, current size 1TB, trying to add the extra 1tb i just expanded the array with
[07:00] <Spragie> l337ingDisorder: lol
[07:00] <carpediem> l337ingDisorder: eh....hmm, really?  ubuntu installs gnome-screensaver by default.
[07:01] <l337ingDisorder> carpediem: yeah this is on the other box, running debian etch with kdebase
[07:01] <l337ingDisorder> carpediem: then apt-get install xscreensaver
[07:02] <jim_p> drumstyk1: is the disk shown in fdisk -l ? can you mount it manually?
[07:02] <carpediem> l337ingDisorder: dunno then.  I guess the only thing I could think of is maybe the files aren't readable by the user.
[07:02] <drumstyk1> oh! jim_p, i found it in /mnt/disk
[07:02] <l337ingDisorder> carpediem: popped into kde and loaded the screensaver applet from the Kde menu and the list is empty
[07:02] <l337ingDisorder> hmmmm
[07:02] <jim_p> drumstyk1: i am sure fstab says /media/disk
[07:02] <l337ingDisorder> so chmod 777 /usr/lib/xscreensaver   ?
[07:03] <carpediem> l337ingDisorder: yeah, that may work...or chmod a+r, I'm not real good with octals.
[07:03] <l337ingDisorder> i'll man chmod
[07:03] <l337ingDisorder> thanks, that's probably what it's gonna take
[07:04] <drumstyk1> ahha! thanks SO MUCH, jim, i am going to try this reboot again
[07:04] <Nukka-G> slackware/slamd64 and FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD own (pwn) you all .. Ubuntu is a distro for uber n00bs and not the linux/unix elite veterans
[07:04] <Kenthree> Hello, whenever I dump files from windows to ubuntu(via samba) they become owned by "nobody", is there a way to automatically make them them the user's?
[07:05] <go_beep_yourself> Kenthree-> check your samba config file
[07:05] <go_beep_yourself> /etc/samba.conf maybe
[07:06] <Kenthree> I have no idea what to look for in there :(
[07:06] <Hail_Spacecake> I'm trying to install ubuntu eee from a usb drive onto an eee pc
[07:06] <go_beep_yourself> Kenthree-> search the file for nobody. open it with gedit, may be easier for you
[07:06] <mmays> is there a im app similar to miranda for linux?
[07:06] <Hail_Spacecake> when I boot it the splash screen shows up briefly, then the screen switches to an initramfs prompt
[07:06] <Kenthree> Thanks' ill have a look
[07:06] <Natilous> Flannel: Thanx.. I can remaster but I want config /etc/network/interfaces with new methods.. but in boot interfaces replace with default..
[07:06] <go_beep_yourself> mmays-> pidgin?
[07:06] <Hail_Spacecake> and I'm not sure how to continue booting from here
[07:06] <go_beep_yourself> mmays-> kopete?
[07:07] <Hail_Spacecake> what makes something go into initramfs anyway?
[07:07] <Natilous> Flannel: I don't know where is default options for interfaces
[07:07] <mmays> tried both of those... is there anything better?
[07:07] <go_beep_yourself> mmays-> miranda runs in linux
[07:07] <hjay> Disk /dev/sda: 1999.9 GB, 1999957393408 bytes
[07:07] <hjay> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 243147 cylinders
[07:07] <hjay> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[07:07] <hjay> Disk identifier: 0xa75f668b
[07:07] <hjay>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[07:07] <FloodBot2> hjay: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:07] <hjay> Disk /dev/sdb: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
[07:08] <mmays>  miranda runs in linux... with wine?
[07:09] <l337ingDisorder> carpediem: wouldn'tcha know it - chmod 777 /usr/lib/xscreensaver && chmod 777 /usr/lib/xscreensaver/* did the trick
[07:09] <go_beep_yourself> mmays-> i think i was wrong about it running in linux, but you can look here for some help lhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_instant_messaging_clients
[07:09] <TRIGG3R> hey guys, i have a buddy who has just installed ubuntu. everything is working beautifully except for the fact that there is no sound.  we have determined that his sound card is a sound blaster, emu10k1x.  i believe that he is just missing the drivers, however after searching have come up empty handed!!  Any help?
[07:09] <go_beep_yourself> TRIGG3R-> i was trying to help you earlier
[07:09] <TRIGG3R> go_beep_yourself: didn't work
[07:09] <mmays> thanks
[07:09] <go_beep_yourself> TRIGG3R-> what didnt?
[07:10] <TRIGG3R> go_beep_yourself: sorry i left my laptop and to his computer, he didnt' have a alsa driver
[07:10] <overrider> hello, i daily have a large dvi connected lcd screen as my main monitor on my laptop. how can i make it so that if i have the main monitor connected, the laptop display stays off. i have the nvidia driver installed and working, so do i have nvidia-settings. can someone point me in the right direction? thank you
[07:10] <go_beep_yourself> TRIGG3R-> is the soundblaster an xfi?
[07:11] <TRIGG3R> he is not sure, when i have him run slpci, it doesn't say anything about it
[07:11] <hjay> hey guys, i'm having trouble expanding my hardware raid partition in gparted, when i try to expand it in gparted, it gives the error "partition can not have -1 length sectors", the partition i'm trying to expand is NOT mounted when i'm trying to resize it, any solution guys? (btw, remember it's hardware raid)
[07:11] <go_beep_yourself> TRIGG3R-> he doesnt have the box it came in?
[07:12] <TRIGG3R> no, it is an integrated sound card
[07:13] <go_beep_yourself> TRIGG3R-> this is the guide im following right now with my soundblaster xfi titanium but it isnt for beginners. it gets the card to work with alsa but theres a link to get it working with oss4 (easier) http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4823915&postcount=675
[07:13] <SexyKen> I have dual monitors and can't figure out how to add viewports to the second monitor any ideas?
[07:13] <snoggleby> Hi I recently installed ubuntu on a partition on a second hard drive but didn't install a boot loader during the installation. I would like to install it now because I've realized I can't just run ubuntu by selecting the other hard drive (I'm using windows on another hard drive) but I don't want to completely reinstall Ubuntu. Is there a way to avoid this?
[07:13] <go_beep_yourself> TRIGG3R-> then if he knows what motherboard he purchased, he should be able to look it up and find out what onboard sound card it uses
[07:14] <techgeek24> hiya, i'm having a problem with my realtek nic not resolving dhcp. I've searched a bunch of places and haven't found anything, any ideas would be welcome
[07:15] <Flannel> !grub | snoggleby
[07:15] <Flannel> snoggleby: The first link there will install the bootloader
[07:15] <snoggleby> Thanks, that's what I was looking for but couldn't find
[07:16] <IntuitiveNipple> techgeek24: feed us more specifics :)
[07:16] <fluid> ive got a laptop with a missing screen that im trying to install ubuntu on (i installed feisty fine when it had a screen)... its hooked up to my tv via svideo. the cd has no errors, but will not start x.
[07:16] <fluid> any ideas?
[07:16] <guest__> Hello people,I had just install Ubuntu 8.04,I type in console users-admin and Users Setting come up but I an't add any user,can some one help me please
[07:17] <hjay> hey guys, i'm having trouble expanding my hardware raid partition in gparted, when i try to expand it in gparted, it gives the error "partition can not have -1 length sectors", the partition i'm trying to expand is NOT mounted when i'm trying to resize it, any solution guys? (btw, remember it's hardware raid)
[07:17] <fluid> its saying vga disconnected, and svideo disconnected
[07:17] <rajec> guys I am using evince document viewer to read pdf files but when I copy paste some text to some text editor it add extra empty lines between sentence
[07:18] <xTheGoat121x> Greetings everyone... I've got an interesting one.  I set up my girlfriend's computer with Ubuntu... and I can't get the clock straightened out!  It constantly shows that the time is 4 hours behind what it actually is
[07:18] <IntuitiveNipple> xTheGoat121x: Check what locale the system believes it is in, and timezone
[07:18] <Flannel> xTheGoat121x: Is this dualbooting with windows?  And, is your timezone offset 3, 4, or 5?
[07:18] <xTheGoat121x> It's probably a screw up with the clock setting in the BIOS, but I wanted to make sure it wasn't something else, first.
[07:19] <Flannel> xTheGoat121x: Ubuntu will synchronize time, so it'll correct itself (and the BIOS clock) if there's not something else misconfigured or arguing with it.
[07:19] <xTheGoat121x> Flannel, she dualbooted for a short time... I haven't actually had the time to set up the dual boot yet... I guess it's really a dead point since I'll have to wipe the drive anyway
[07:20] <xTheGoat121x> Flannel, I sure hope it'll synch up properly... I'm going to get that configured for sure right now.
[07:20] <techgeek24> ok well, it shows up in ifconfig, it works in windows (dual booting) dhcp works with the wireless card, using r8169 driver....
[07:20] <hjay> hey guys, i'm having trouble expanding my hardware raid partition in gparted, when i try to expand it in gparted, it gives the error "partition can not have -1 length sectors", the partition i'm trying to expand is NOT mounted when i'm trying to resize it, any solution guys? (btw, remember it's hardware raid)
[07:21] <Jokker> www.google.co.th
[07:21] <embarger> How can I install help for my kDevelop?
[07:21] <embarger> Help me please ^_^
[07:22] <soliac> what about the kdevelop-doc package?
[07:22] <iceer123> gdgdfx
[07:24] <xTheGoat121x> Flannel... got her setting up NTP and whatnot right now... hopefully it should work
[07:24] <w7> hai
[07:25] <zetheroo-ubuntu> I tried the Intrepid Live CD on my machine and the sound issues were worse than in Hardy .... is there no hope in sight for me and those like me with Audio issues?
[07:25] <zetheroo-ubuntu> I was under the impression that buying a computer with Intel-based components was a safe bet with Linux
[07:25] <w7> maaf gnggu mau g jd tmn q?
[07:26] <tomsh> someone try ubuntu 8.10 on dell studio slim?
[07:26] <taishi28012> Does anyone have a suggestion for a simple CLI alternative to network-manager?
[07:26] <w7> hai
[07:26] <zetheroo-ubuntu> I guess one can never be certain .... no matter what ppl tell you
[07:26] <danbh_intrepid> taishi28012: why not iwconfig or ifconfig?
[07:27] <danbh_intrepid> taishi28012: wait, I guess they don't do the roaming thing...
[07:27] <taishi28012> danbh_intrepid: I guess I could have cron run a bash script that would connect me depending on the results of iwlist but that just seems unecessary
[07:27] <acu> I want to capture audio and video from my webcam - I am able to use ffmpeg to capture video but I do not know how to capture audio - can anyone help ?
[07:28] <TRIGG3R> no, it is an integrated sound card
[07:28] <TRIGG3R> hey guys, i have a buddy who has just installed ubuntu. everything is working beautifully except for the fact that there is no sound.  we have determined that his sound card is a sound blaster, emu10k1x.  i believe that he is just missing the drivers, however after searching have come up empty handed!!  Any help?
[07:28] <piju_> acu, xvidcap
[07:29] <xTheGoat121x> Flannel, got it sycnhronized, all's well.  Thanks for being my sounding board.
[07:29] <Tanalark> good evening, all.
[07:29] <Tanalark> have a pretty annoying problem I'd like some help solving, if anyone's got time.
[07:30] <Cha0sUbuntu> i updated my new install of ubuntu and now my internet is not working anyone have pointers?
[07:30] <zetheroo-ubuntu> any Ubuntu maintainers or developers around?
[07:30] <acu> piju: I thought xvidcap will capture the screen only - so I can capture the webcam too
[07:30] <xTheGoat121x> Tanalark, well, what's it in relation to?
[07:30] <Tanalark> I just installed 8.04.1 yesterday, and everything seems to be working great.... except the internet connection.
[07:30] <Tanalark> it's very spotty.
[07:30] <xTheGoat121x> Tanalark, wired or wireless?
[07:31] <Tanalark> actually both.. though the wired only started giving me problems a few minutes before I switched back to XP (dual boot).
[07:31] <Cha0sUbuntu> to give more perspective, if i log into the new update from grub it has an Xconf error so i log into the one below and it doesnt have inter net
[07:31] <Tanalark> the funny thing is that eveyrthing was working fine when the Live CD was in...
[07:31] <Tanalark> and things are working as well as they always have with XP
[07:32] <xTheGoat121x> Tanalark, hmmm... unfortunately, I'm not quite sure where to start with that one.
[07:32] <Tanalark> it's spotty in that sometimes the connection will be fine... but then it just randomly drops.  usually right after i've started a packet download or something.
[07:32] <Tanalark> yeah... that's my problem, too.. I tried changing the DNS settings... checking the gateway, etc..
[07:32] <Tanalark> when the connection isn't working, it won't even ping the default gateway.
[07:33] <Tanalark> also, it's been failing to save the settings for my wireless router.
[07:33] <Tanalark> that's something I noticed, actually... it's not keeping the changes I make sometimes to the settings.
[07:33] <Cha0sUbuntu> Synaptic Package Manager can not download and retevie packages anyone know why this might be?
[07:33] <Tanalark> check your 'net connection.. Ive been having problems with that all day
[07:34] <WIGGMPk> What exactly is the "Default Mixer Tracks" and the "Device" that is selected mean? Meaning, if I want to use PulseAudio my Device selected says HDA NVidia (Alsa mixer) does that still mean im using ALSA?
[07:34] <Cha0sUbuntu> ill have internet and get updates but to get other software it cant get it
[07:34] <Tanalark> Thegoat.. the main thing that gets me is that it's so erratic. there seems to be no pattern to the network failures except that they usually happen right after a long or high-volume transfer starts.
[07:35] <Flannel> Cha0sUbuntu: Pastebin the output of sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install [package you want]
[07:35]  * Tanalark shrugs.. "I'm a newbie, too, to be honest..  battling problems with the 'net, myself."
[07:35] <Flannel> Cha0sUbuntu: where [package you want] is the name of some package you want to install.
[07:36] <zetheroo-ubuntu> is there a hardware database somewhere with compatible and non-compatible devices for Ubuntu?
[07:36] <xTheGoat121x> Tanalark, I gotcha, totally, on the random 'net thing.  Last time I had that problem, it was with my wireless router, not my laptop, unfortunately.
[07:36] <Flannel> !hardware | zetheroo-ubuntu
[07:36] <Tanalark> that really sucks... why would you think it's only happening with ubuntu and not XP?
[07:36] <Flannel> zetheroo-ubuntu: Its not exhaustive, of course.
[07:37] <xTheGoat121x> Tanalark, I would imagine it would have something to do with either the driver or Ubuntu's network management system, you know, a setting in there somewhere.
[07:37] <Tanalark> fair enough.
[07:37] <Tanalark> any ideas on a fix?
[07:37] <zetheroo-ubuntu> Flannel: thanks ... would you know anything about the support for Intel HDA devices in Intrepid?
[07:37] <xTheGoat121x> Tanalark, because if the equipment works fine in Windows....
[07:38]  * Tanalark nods.. "makes perfect sense, Goat."
[07:38] <womble123> anyone aut to give me a hand with something?
[07:38] <Tanalark> it does sound like a driver problem, but I don't know where to start with the repair process... is there a place I can find driver fixes?
[07:38] <xTheGoat121x> Tanalark, I'd say the first step in the process would be to search the forums for your particular model of wireless card, see if anyone else has had the same issue.
[07:38] <Tanalark> wireless card, or wireless router?
[07:38] <WIGGMPk> What exactly is the "Default Mixer Tracks" and the "Device" that is selected mean? Meaning, if I want to use PulseAudio my Device selected says HDA NVidia (Alsa mixer) does that still mean im using ALSA?
[07:39] <zetheroo-ubuntu> would another kernel work with my card better?
[07:39] <Flannel> zetheroo-ubuntu: You'd have to ask in #ubuntu+1, also, check to see what the kernel version that's in intrepid supports.
[07:39] <xTheGoat121x> Tanalark, wireless card.  Because if there aren't any dropouts on XP, then it can't be the router -- otherwise you'd be getting the same problems on XP...
[07:39] <xTheGoat121x> That's how it was with mine.
[07:39] <Tanalark> doh. :)
[07:40] <Tanalark> I should have thought of that.
[07:40] <xTheGoat121x> Tanalark, it's fine.
[07:40] <xTheGoat121x> Tanalark, I've done that too.
[07:40] <Tanalark> ok... I'll take a look and see what I can find... the ubuntu forums from the main support page?
[07:40] <xTheGoat121x> Tanalark, ubuntuforums.org
[07:40] <zetheroo-ubuntu> Flannel: I read here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SndHdaIntelSoundProblems that the codec for my hardware is not in the kernel (2.6.24-19-generic) ... is it possible that its in other kernels?
[07:40] <Tanalark> sounds great.  thanks a lot, guys.
[07:40] <Tanalark> I'll come back with what info I find and let y'all know how it goes.
[07:41] <xTheGoat121x> Tanalark, best of luck!
[07:41] <badfish> tried the restricted media yet?
[07:41] <badfish> i forget what it's called
[07:41] <Tanalark> thanks again. :)
[07:42]  * xTheGoat121x wishes he could've done more in that situation
[07:42] <zetheroo-ubuntu> Flannel: btw .. my device is the first one in the list there
[07:42] <womble123> been searching but cannot find a way to get spdif working
[07:42] <Flannel> zetheroo-ubuntu: You mean in -server or -rt?  no
[07:42] <zetheroo-ubuntu> Flannel: I dunno ... thats just what the docs say
[07:45] <darkblue_B> I want to add a .deb.. I can see it at ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/pgadmin3  ... how do I edit /etc/apt/sources.list ?? nothing I add seems to work so far
[07:45] <zetheroo-ubuntu> Flannel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SndHdaIntelSoundProblems in that link my device is the first in the list .... and it says "codec not in kernel doc list"
[07:45] <Flannel> darkblue_B: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[07:46] <darkblue_B> gutsy
[07:46] <Flannel> darkblue_B: deb ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted universe multiverse
[07:46] <darkblue_B> trying
[07:46] <Flannel> zetheroo-ubuntu: Ah, now that I've read said page.  No.  Kernel doesn't support that (or at least, that version of the kernel)
[07:47] <Leonheart> Hi
[07:47] <zetheroo-ubuntu> Flannel: geez ...
[07:47] <Leonheart> did ubuntu 8.10 now support sata on 4530?
[07:48] <Flannel> Leonheart: #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid questions, thanks.
[07:48] <Leonheart> ok,
[07:48] <Flannel> zetheroo-ubuntu: that page (and that bug) are for Hardy, no idea about intrepid.
[07:48] <trandyr> If I have a question, do I just shout it out, or is there some sort of order/line? Sorry, I'm new to this. :-p
[07:49] <zetheroo-ubuntu> Flannel: I booted up with the Live CD of 8.10 beta and the sound was worse than in Hardy
[07:49] <darkblue_B> Flannel: :-(  nope
[07:49] <Flannel> darkblue_B: did you update after adding it?
[07:50] <cilkay> trandyr: Just ask.
[07:50] <darkblue_B> synaptic reload read a lot of files
[07:50] <darkblue_B> anyhting else I need to do?
[07:50] <Flannel> darkblue_B: Did it give you an error on that repository? or success? or what?
[07:50] <darkblue_B> hmm no errors
[07:50] <darkblue_B> it read 80 files
[07:50] <Flannel> darkblue_B: pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get update`
[07:50] <Flannel> !paste | darkblue_B
[07:51] <darkblue_B> ok
[07:52] <jim_p> i am back!!!
[07:52] <co_cr_ceMalam> hhhh
[07:52] <co_cr_ceMalam> klo
[07:52] <portit> Hi, I have Ubuntu 8.04 on this i845G chipset based desktop and it flickers often when I scroll a page.
[07:52] <co_cr_ceMalam> me too
[07:53] <Flannel> !id | co_cr_ceMalam
[07:53] <baldur> hey guys what mp3 player do you guys recomend ??
[07:53] <darkblue_B> http:/paste.ubuntu.com/55191/ Flannel
[07:53] <Flannel> baldur: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:53] <co_cr_ceMalam> mmmmmm????
[07:53] <baldur> Flannel:  aight
[07:54] <Flannel> darkblue_B: Alright, and then what error do you get when you try: sudo apt-get install pgadmin3  ?  go ahead and pastebin that output too.
[07:54] <Leonheart> geeh... my totem player is fine to mp3 player
[07:54] <darkblue_B> hhmmm I ust see the older version in synaptic
[07:54] <DualBootn> I updated my 2.6.20-15 to 2.6.20-17 and now its having x server issue about my Nvidia card, i have tried recover from grub and it says it has reset restricted drivers but how do i load back into ubuntu from the kernal im sorry i dont know im a total noob to linux systems
[07:54] <darkblue_B> I dont see the 1.8.x  .. just 1.4.x
[07:55] <Flannel> darkblue_B: Gutsy only has 1.4.x
[07:55] <Flannel> darkblue_B: 1.4.3, to be exact.
[07:55] <darkblue_B> ohhhh
[07:55] <darkblue_B> Postgres is 8.3
[07:55] <darkblue_B> 1.4.2 gives a dumb error when opening tables
[07:56] <darkblue_B> well that must be it then
[07:56] <DualBootn> anyone to guide me to the direction i need to be?
[07:56] <Flannel> darkblue_B: In gutsy, postgres is 8.2, I believe.
[07:56] <darkblue_B> well, I upgraded to 8.3 thats fine
[07:58] <DualBootn> anyone?
[07:58] <abe3k> sudo hi guys
[07:58] <WIGGMPk> DualBootn: when you first turn on the computer.. do you see the Grub menu or does it just count and disappear?
[07:59] <KRABEN> sudo su
[07:59] <rebel_kid> warning stupid question... is http UDP or TCP?
[08:00] <abe3k> I have a question, when I type ls -l in the terminal what do these numbers mean ? ie. drwxr-xr-x  (((2)))  root  root     4096 2008-09-29 05:31
[08:00] <abe3k> what does this number 2 mean ?
[08:00] <zaggynl> rebel_kid: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2616.txt
[08:00] <DualBootn> grub loads up and i have the choice of Ubuntu 2.6.20-17 and 2.6.20-15 if i load 20-17 (this showed after i downloaded updateds) it says x server problems then if i go to the revoery of that number it says reseting resisted drivers
[08:00] <WIGGMPk> rebel_kid: i think wiki would prolly be a better place for an answer tot hat
[08:00] <Flannel> rebel_kid: TCP, and #ubuntu-offtopic is probably the place for those sorts of questions in the future.
[08:00] <abe3k> usser : hey there  :)
[08:00] <jim_p> !achi
[08:01] <DualBootn> but after that it takes me to command promt
[08:01] <jim_p> !ahci
[08:01] <zaggynl> rebel_kid: wikipedia says TCP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Http
[08:01] <rebel_kid> thanks
[08:01] <DualBootn> if i should load system from promt i dont know how ...
[08:01] <WIGGMPk> DualBootn: I am assuming you are using the 2.6.20-15 kernel now then?
[08:01] <abe3k> anyone knows what these numbers after the read and write permissions mean ?
[08:01] <abe3k>  ie. drwxr-xr-x  (((2)))  root  root     4096 2008-09-29 05:31
[08:02] <Flannel> abe3k: You added the parenthesis, yes?  Thats the number of references.
[08:02] <WIGGMPk> DualBootn: its getting you to a shell to "recover" the system..
[08:02] <Flannel> !repeat | abe3k
[08:02] <Falcons_roost> freenode.org #Ubuntu
[08:02] <abe3k> flannel : yes I added them, what do you mean by references ?
[08:02] <darkblue_B> ok Flannel thx for your help.. I guess thats all for now
[08:03] <WIGGMPk> DualBootn: what exactly does the x server problem say? does it give you a blue screen?
[08:03] <Flannel> abe3k: That number is the amount of inodes pointing to that file
[08:03] <Vivek> Do you have a channel for Ubuntu mentors ?
[08:03] <Flannel> Vivek: What do you mean?
[08:03] <abe3k> flannel : I'll pastebin you my ls -l
[08:03] <DualBootn> in grub there is Ubuntu 2.6.20-17 and Ubuntu 2.6.20-17 (recovery mode)
[08:03] <Flannel> abe3k: you don't need to.
[08:03] <abe3k> flannel : some of them show 59 !
[08:04] <Flannel> abe3k: that's not abnormal.  You have a lot of subdirectories in that folder.
[08:04] <abe3k> flannel : yes its a harddisk
[08:04] <Vivek> A place where NM can meet the Ubuntu developers.
[08:04] <WIGGMPk> DualBootn: i really cant guide you thru the recovery mode.. but you can prolly load that to the shell then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the driver to vesa to get into the system
[08:05] <DualBootn> how can i do this?
[08:05] <Flannel> Vivek: NM?
[08:05] <abe3k> flannel : ok thanks for the info :)
[08:05] <Vivek> New Maintainers.
[08:05] <WIGGMPk> DualBootn: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:05] <Flannel> Vivek: Ah!  You probably want #ubuntu-motu
[08:06] <WIGGMPk> DualBootn: you should prolly back it up first... "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup"
[08:06] <DualBootn> k
[08:07] <WIGGMPk> DualBootn: after you back up that file... edit it.. "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and look for a section where it says Driver nvidia and change it to vesa
[08:08] <DualBootn> After i back it up will it tell me it was backed up or just to next line
[08:08] <WIGGMPk> DualBootn: it will just return to the next line.. if you want to check.. change the directory like this: "cd /etc/X11"
[08:09] <WIGGMPk> DualBootn: then use the list command like this : ls
[08:09] <Leonheart> wht the diferent beetween gtk and xface?
[08:09] <WIGGMPk> DualBootn: it will show you all the files in that directory and you'll see the file you backed up.. BTW.. its a capital X... /etc/X11/
[08:10] <DualBootn> understood thanks
[08:10] <WIGGMPk> DualBootn: hope it helps you get back into the system.. from there you'll have to get another person to help with the nvidia drivers
[08:11] <DualBootn> thanks wiggmpk
[08:11] <WIGGMPk> DualBootn: your very welcome
[08:16] <Vivek> Flannel: Thanks for the info.
[08:16] <DualBootn> is there a command to start the system from shell
[08:18] <naut> If you were going to run W2K virtually inside Linux what would you use
[08:19] <Sazhen86> naut:  Probably VirtualBox
[08:19] <Leonheart> use WINE
[08:19] <Leonheart> or CROSSOVER
[08:20] <naut> Leonheart, a lot of the applications I want don't seem to run under wine
[08:20] <Leonheart> naut: did u mean run windows app or run full win desktop in view?
[08:21] <cilkay> naut: If you have a CPU that has the virtualization extensions (Vt in Intel), you can run a kvm kernel and run Windows at native speed in qemu.
[08:21] <naut> Leonheart, I was thinking of running an OS virtually, but it is so that I can run certain applications
[08:22] <naut> cilkay, it's a laptop with an intel core 2 duo
[08:22] <dtech> v8.04 ... is there a step-by-step method, install log, or verbose option that might tell me why several hours into the install and all I have is an empty screen??
[08:22] <cilkay> naut: You'd have to see if the CPU and the BIOS supports hardware virtualization.
[08:22] <cilkay> Actually, if the BIOS has an option for it, your CPU would support it.
[08:23] <l337ingDisorder> I might as well just drop anchor in here, I've been in and out so much tonight..
[08:23] <l337ingDisorder> hopefully this'll be my last question of the night:
[08:23] <DualBootn> now that im back into my system anyone know how to obtain new Nvidia Drivers
[08:24] <pan__> sensors displays 10 degress C less than acpi -t any reason?
[08:24] <blueeagle> So I want this script I've made to run every three hours and one minute and also at reboot unless it was last run less than three hours and one minute ago. I am examining cron, but I don't see it being very helpful.
[08:24] <l337ingDisorder> does anyone know of a good program to scan a remote (web) directory periodically and download-to/delete file from the local machine to match up with the remote directory?
[08:25] <Leonheart> tht shoul ice freezer in ur cpu :P
[08:25] <l337ingDisorder> blueeagle: evolution -c calendar
[08:25] <blueeagle> l337ingDisorder: Are you thinking about something remote synchronisation (ie rsync)?
[08:25] <DualBootn> WHY cant Synaptic Package Manager retreive anything @@!!! >.>;;
[08:25] <cilkay> l337ingDisorder: rsync with cron
[08:26] <l337ingDisorder> blueeagle: rsync eh.. will look into that, thanks :)
[08:26] <blueeagle> l337ingDisorder: Not running evolution nor the calendar and the script needs to run regardless of who (if anyone) has logged in.
[08:26] <l337ingDisorder> cilkay: yeah I figured cron would come into it for the scheduling
[08:26] <Leonheart>  l337ingDisorder: if u can't find tht program anywhere, then ask freebasic team to make that app. ##freebasic :P
[08:27] <dtech> is this the best channel for install questions/issues?
[08:28] <DualBootn> im about to give up in Ubuntu and go back to Windows
[08:28] <blueeagle> l337ingDisorder: Just don't try to rsync http://*.* because your harddrive isn't big enough for the whole internet. ;p hehe
[08:28] <acp> hi
[08:28] <blueeagle> dtech: Try asking and find out.
[08:28] <blueeagle> dtech: (ie. don't ask to ask, just ask. If you don't get a satisfactory reply, look elsewhere)
[08:29] <dtech> I did ask!
[08:29] <DualBootn> anyone know why synaptic wont retireve packages
[08:30] <blueeagle> dtech: No, ask the real question that you want to ask.
[08:30] <Leonheart> maybe /join #ask can help :P
[08:30] <dtech> I DID !!
[08:30] <blueeagle> dtech: So you're just conducting a survey to find out where you can ask about stuff?
[08:30] <Leonheart> dtech: the aswer is "Not Always"
[08:31] <dtech> [10/08-03:22] <dtech> v8.04 ... is there a step-by-step method, install log, or verbose option that might tell me why several hours into the install and all I have is an empty screen??
[08:31] <blueeagle> dtech: (ie. you're not having trouble installing ubuntu, you just want to know in case you meet someone that does or run into trouble later?)
[08:31] <blueeagle> dtech: That might be the screen saver.
[08:31] <blueeagle> dtech: Try pressing [Shift] to wake your screen back up.
[08:32] <acp> is there a way or possible that when a doc is created from MS office and open it to openoffice the structure/format  wont be change? I already add msfonts. the doc that was created in MS office is different once you open it to openoffice?
[08:32] <cilkay> acp: How is it "different"?
[08:32] <cilkay> How complex is this document?
[08:33] <acp> cilkay, alignments, indention
[08:33] <cilkay> acp: And by the way, you might want to ask on #openoffice.org
[08:33] <Leonheart> dtech: may wrong frequency. try SHIFT+CTRL+ALT and then  "-"
[08:33] <dtech> nope ... it hasn't finished installing ... or at least it hasn't displayed any messages since I started the install ... an empty desktop (with function mouse) appears at random, but nothing else
[08:33] <cilkay> acp: How complex is the document, again?
[08:34] <acp> just ordinary docs, k ill post this to #openoffice
[08:34] <blueeagle> acp: MS office does not use the open document format and OOo does not do everything the exact same way as MS does. Some minor differences may occur because of that. Check your tab-stop settings and make sure that your font and margins match up with what you used in MS Office.
[08:34] <Leonheart> there is so many incompatibility beetween MSOFFICE AND OPENOFFICE document format
[08:35] <Leonheart> and the most incompatible is the equation :P
[08:35] <dtech> CD-ROM light has been flickering continuous for several hours in different patterns ... I did get a a screen once that allowed a CD-check (passed)
[08:35] <blueeagle> dtech: How much RAM does this computer have?
[08:35] <m3thod_> anyone know where i can get openoffice.org 3.0
[08:35] <cilkay> I get MS Office documents from other people all the time. I edit them and save them back in MS Office format and they have no idea that I'm using OOo.
[08:35] <blueeagle> dtech: It might be that you're running out. If that is the case you might need the alternate install cd.
[08:36] <m3thod_> or how do u save as windows read
[08:36] <dtech> dunno ... old laptop ... does it matter?
[08:36] <Leonheart> the best way is save your ms-office document in ms-office first as RTF format. tht may help
[08:36] <blueeagle> dtech: If you run out it does. Ie. 256 mb is not enough to run the graphical installer.
[08:36] <acp> cilkay, Just plain typed docs with indention bullet points, its not that major my customers just adjust it the way its was. I guest Ill take blueeagle advice. thanks
[08:36] <Leonheart> m3thod_: openoffice.org
[08:36] <blueeagle> dtech: 512 should be enough for xubuntu and ubuntu but iirc not kubuntu.
[08:36] <Leonheart> http://openoffice.org
[08:37] <dtech> I thought Ubuntu was linux based?
[08:37] <blueeagle> dtech: Also the installer, for some reason, does not check if there's enough ram.
[08:37] <blueeagle> dtech: It is. But even linux can run out of memory if you use too much of it.
[08:37] <cilkay> Kubuntu runs fine in 512M.
[08:37] <m3thod_> leonheart: been their and cant seem to install 3.0 having troubles
[08:37] <cilkay> Albeit a bit slow on a P3/850 ThinkPad.
[08:38] <blueeagle> dtech: ie, the finished installation will run *buntu with 256 mb of ram, but the installation application requires alot.
[08:38] <Leonheart> maybe xubuntu is fit for old pc
[08:38] <m3thod_> save to desktop and still cant find directory. have extracted to desktop as well
[08:38] <dtech> shit I can run Win2K on 128MB ... and it's a pig! ... your telling me linux needs 512MB?
[08:38] <Leonheart> m3thod_: just extract all deb using archive manager and run it. it should fine :P
[08:38] <cilkay> dtech: First, watch your language. Second, a Linux distro circa 2000 would run on a 386.
[08:38] <blueeagle> dtech: One of the reasons this happens is because when installing you haven't got access to a swap partition so everything needs to fit in memory. That makes 256 mb too little.
[08:38] <Runamok81> Ubuntu might, other distros are extremely lightweight
[08:39] <m3thod_> yeah i thought u could put linux on your 50 buck box u have stashed away in your cuboard
[08:39] <blueeagle> dtech: I am not telling you that linux needs it. If you use the alternate install cd you'll be ok.
[08:39] <stdin> dtech: you can use the alternate CD to install on a system with less memory
[08:39] <Runamok81> <---  has a question about VIRTUALIZING XP + FTP transfers
[08:39] <blueeagle> Runamok81: Do you want to share it with the rest of the class?
[08:40] <dtech> alternate install CD ... I can find that on the same website?
[08:40] <manish> any body indian here please
[08:40] <l337ingDisorder> blueeagle: rsync and cron are exactly what I'm going to need, thanks :)
[08:40] <blueeagle> dtech: You can.
[08:40] <Leonheart> a did u forget to use swap area? but yeah. using 256 for Ubuntu is very slow
[08:40] <Runamok81> Has anyone found a way to get a virtualized Windows XP SP3 to have a Decent FTP connection?
[08:40] <nsprams> wassup manish?
[08:40] <blueeagle> l337ingDisorder: Good stuff. Have fun. :)
[08:40] <cilkay> dtech: If you're trying to run it on something that has the computing power of an iPod, you're probably wasting time installing a X/K/Ubuntu. Ubuntu Light might be an option. Puppy Linux or Damn Small Linux are couple of others.
[08:40] <manish> want to connect to internet using Reliance usb data card
[08:40] <Runamok81> Mine is incredibly slow
[08:40] <dtech> I'll give it a shot ... tnx!
[08:40] <nsprams> ah.. im fairly new to this.. :(
[08:40] <Runamok81> I'm using Virtualbox OSE 1.62 and Virtualizing Windows XP SP3
[08:41] <Runamok81> FTP transfers DRAG
[08:41] <Runamok81> bad
[08:41] <l337ingDisorder> one last question for the heads before I leave - and this isn't really an ubuntu question inasmuch as debian... but I'm here so I'll ask ;) I have a basic debian setup on another machine and it has quiet in the boot params for the grub entry but it still spews all kinds of init stuff on the screen during boot-up and between x sessions... anyone know how to stop that?
[08:42] <xorand> what's the best software to use if I want to run a virtual copy of Solaris?
[08:42] <dtech> cilkay:  seems like linux is QUICKLY losing its advantage over M$ if its getting as fat as they are for resources!
[08:42] <Runamok81> Current Setup:  Ubuntu 8.04, Virtualizing Windows XP SP3 via VirtualBox 1.6.2
[08:42] <l337ingDisorder> xorand: vmware :)
[08:42] <donkey-phone> solaris is slow in virtualbox
[08:42] <blueeagle> l337ingDisorder: bootsplash or somesuch will hide it.
[08:42] <xorand> thanks guys
[08:42] <cilkay> dtech: What are you going on about? Have you tried Vista lately?
[08:42] <blueeagle> l337ingDisorder: I'm not sure which splash-system is the prefered one these days tho.
[08:42] <donkey-phone> it's kinda funny because virtualbox belongs to sun
[08:42] <l337ingDisorder> dtech: ubu 8.10 still comes under vista by a good 150-200mb
[08:42]  * xorand is still a Vista virgin and proud of it :)
[08:42] <dtech> Vista is a white elephant
[08:42] <blueeagle> l337ingDisorder: What it really does is show a nice little image instead of all the debug data.
[08:43] <donkey-phone> umm.. vista is no virgin
[08:43] <Runamok81> I'm currently running Vista + XP SP3 +  Ubuntu
[08:43] <l337ingDisorder> blueeagle: will it also hide the debug data between x sessions?
[08:43] <Leonheart> l337ingDisorder: login as root and modify grub text boot data. tht should minimize ur boot config screen :p
[08:43] <Runamok81> fun stuff on a Compiz Cube
[08:43] <fluid> is there a way to specify the max resolution the livecd can use at boot time? please say yes. :P
[08:43] <jitu3485> I am not able to view youtube video on my ubuntu hardy , using firefox 3.0.3
[08:44] <dtech> The US government has already stated it will not use Vista, ever! ... that is a powerful statement
[08:44] <Runamok81> jitu3485...  you need to install flash
[08:44] <blueeagle> dtech: Please remember that the graphical login is a full implementation of *buntu but without the ability to write to swap. Even windows xp's installation procedure defaults to something like the alternate install of *buntu. Also I believe that 512 wouldn't be enough to run a full XP w/o swap and a big installer program.
[08:44] <jitu3485> Runamok81, but i did it , sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:44] <l337ingDisorder> Runamok81: yea, turn on the 3d windows too, and drag one so it's halfway across 2 desktops
[08:44] <dtech> anyway ... off to find the 'other' install CD ...
[08:44] <donkey-phone> w00t
[08:45] <Leonheart> glad it
[08:45] <Runamok81> hmmmmm  jitu3485
[08:45] <blueeagle> dtech: If you define a swap partition and enable it before starting the graphical installer you should be ok.
[08:45] <jitu3485> also gnash
[08:45] <Runamok81> one second...  googling abit,  I run Firefox 3 and Hardy 8.04  works fine
[08:46] <dtech> actually a full Windows XP install will run with about 280MB of memory without a swap ... and a PE install can do it at about 140MB
[08:46] <Runamok81> jitu3485,  quick question are you running 64-bit ... or using AMD?
[08:46] <jitu3485> Runamok81, i386
[08:47] <portablejim> Anybody found a solution to the gnome panels disappearing when the shutdown button is clicked (Ubuntu Eee 701)?
[08:47] <Leonheart> dtech: tht swap partition should help bit. but usually slow app run so much. coz ubuntu take about 170MB for running withouth emmbed i thing
[08:47] <Runamok81> same here
[08:48] <Leonheart> portablejim: maybe desktop effect problem. there is much display problem for ubuntu too :P
[08:48] <dtech> blueeagle: swap file in linux .... hahaha ... I just learn linux doesn't have a 'c' in it! ... there's no way I'm gonna figure out how to create a post-install swap-file in it! *grin*
[08:48] <donkeyofdarkness> LENNOX!
[08:48] <blueeagle> dtech: Actually it's a swap partition.
[08:48] <dtech> :-)
[08:48] <manish> any one knows how to connect to the internet usingreliance data card
[08:49] <donkeyofdarkness> It can be a swapfile
[08:49] <donkeyofdarkness> use fat32
[08:49] <manish> internet through reliance data card
[08:49] <Runamok81> so sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree   WAS SUCCESFUL, BUT NO WORKY???
[08:49] <manish> can somebodyhelp me please
[08:49] <blueeagle> donkeyofdarkness: you can also swap to a mysql database if you want to...
[08:49] <donkeyofdarkness> = O
[08:49] <donkeyofdarkness> That would pwn
[08:49] <blueeagle> donkeyofdarkness: No it would not.
[08:49] <jim_p> manish: what does lspci say for that card?
[08:50] <portablejim> The problem still remains w/o compiz turned on.
[08:50] <donkeyofdarkness> probably slow
[08:50] <donkeyofdarkness> but still..
[08:50] <donkeyofdarkness> I must do it
[08:50] <Leonheart> Runamok81: try just extract deb archive and put in filesystem root
[08:50] <donkeyofdarkness> I want to swap over the internet
[08:50] <Leonheart> maybe tht help :p
[08:50] <blueeagle> donkeyofdarkness: YOu would see a tad overhead on such a setup, yes.
[08:50] <donkeyofdarkness> yes
[08:50] <donkeyofdarkness> It would fail
[08:50] <donkeyofdarkness> horribly
[08:50] <donkeyofdarkness> but it would be lulz
[08:51] <Runamok81> thanks
[08:51] <blueeagle> donkeyofdarkness: No, it would work but it wouldn't be usable.
[08:52] <Runamok81> Anyone know how to speed up FTP transfers w/ an Win XP Guest OS?
[08:52] <Leonheart> Runamok81: ind data.tgz or something tht should have usr directory. tht ur need for. paste to filesystem and see if tht work or not xD
[08:52] <manish> please someone help on reliance datacard
[08:52] <donkeyofdarkness> Runamok81, virtualbox?
[08:52] <Runamok81> yessir donkey
[08:53] <mindframe> why is bash picking up arguments for python/perl scripts as individual commands?
[08:53] <donkeyofdarkness> Runamok81, it has an option to use a gigabit NIC
[08:53] <Leonheart>  Runamok81: can u just use ftp tansfer program
[08:53] <jim_p> manish: what type of card is it? usb, pci, pcmcia?
[08:53] <Runamok81> yeah, I could select that... but it doesn't seem logical.. I mean FTP just CRAWLS
[08:53] <VSpike> Just recovering an ext3 file system from a damaged disk.  There is one hardware sector that I didn't get.  Looking at its position with dumpe2fs, it's in an area called "Reserved GDT Blocks" in Group 0.  Looks to me like that should be harmless to data.  Is that right?
[08:54] <Runamok81> no sir Leonheart
[08:54] <blueeagle> VSpike: What does google say about GDT blocks?
[08:54] <Runamok81> I am using a proprietary Windows program linked to ActiveSync
[08:54] <Runamok81> it updates via FTP
[08:54] <Runamok81> (I am flashing a Smartphone to a new ROM)
[08:55] <Runamok81> fun stuff
[08:55] <VSpike> blueeagle: I can find mentions and discussion of them, but no clear definition yet
[08:56] <Leonheart> Runamok81: Using WINE or CROSSOVER to run win app should be faster than using virtual system
[08:56] <Runamok81> hmmm...  can anyone else test their FTP connection inside a guest Windows XP?
[08:56] <VSpike> blueeagle: best answer is this, probably http://archives.free.net.ph/message/20060508.023346.df45ee08.en.html
[08:56] <blueeagle> VSpike: http://fedoraforum.org/forum/archive/index.php/t-108411.html
[08:56] <blueeagle> first hit when googling ext3 gde blocks
[08:56] <Runamok81> well, Leonheart..  I'm a bit iffy on using WINE to run ActiveSync + A ROM Flasher written for Windows
[08:56] <fiber> hi, i
[08:57] <macv1> hi all.... can file roller open 7z files???
[08:57] <macv1>  
[08:57] <VSpike> blueeagle: yeah, same link.  So do you take that to mean that they are not in use normally?
[08:57] <Runamok81> I haven't tried it, but I guess I could....
[08:57] <Leonheart> Runamok81:  then you should try CROSSOVER. tht should fine :P
[08:57] <blueeagle> VSpike: "It means that blocks have been reserved in order to allow on-line
[08:57] <blueeagle> resizing."
[08:57] <fiber> i'm having an odd problem.... i can't authennticate using gnome-screensaver OR the about section of the system pref's, however any sort of terminal-based authentican and gdm work fine... has anyone encountered this? i looked on google and haven't found anything useful
[08:57] <Leonheart> even tht wine mod to :(
[08:57] <blueeagle> VSpike: It would help if you read the answers to the questions. :)
[08:58] <Runamok81> one sec... googling for an answer (activesync + WINE)
[08:58] <VSpike> blueeagle: I did.  I just wanted to confirm that I had understood the answer correctly.
[08:59] <blueeagle> VSpike: Well the GDE blocks, as the answer reads, are there to allow for resizing a volume without unmounting it first.
[08:59] <blueeagle> VSpike: So you did understand it correctly as far as I can tell.
[08:59] <Runamok81> looks like WINE is a NO GO for ActiveSync 4.5
[09:00] <ElijahDuBarryVT> how to understand wich video player use mozilla?
[09:00] <Leonheart> Runamok81: Bad :(
[09:00] <VSpike> blueeagle: does it mean that they are only in use during online resizing?  If you have done an online resize, will they contain important data for ever more?  Or as they are used, do they get taken out of the reserved GDT blocks pile and become something else (inodes or whatever?)
[09:00] <Runamok81> yeah, and to think.  I have to virtualize windows to flash my PPC to run Linux...  Hee hee
[09:01] <VSpike> blueeagle: Actually, I am 99% sure I never grew that FS so I can probably assume they are dead space :)
[09:02] <blueeagle> VSpike: The way I would do this is to have this reserve availible at all times except during a resize operation. This is, if I understand it correctly, a temporary location where the resizer moves data while changing the structures. After a resize operation is complete these blocks ought to be cleared.
[09:02] <VSpike> blueeagle: that would be my guess too
[09:02] <macv1> ﻿ hi all.... how can i make file roller open .7z files???
[09:03] <ActionParsnip2> yo yo yo
[09:03] <Leonheart>  macv1: is normal archive manager doesn't fit for it?
[09:03] <Runamok81> macvl... it should work by default
[09:03] <Runamok81> are .7z files associated to file roller?
[09:04] <Leonheart> pick on "open with other application"
[09:04] <blueeagle> macv1: Did you try "file -> open" and open the file in file roller?
[09:05] <blueeagle> macv1: Are you sure that the archive is not corrupt?
[09:05] <ActionParsnip2> macv1: sudo apt-get install p7zip; p7zip -d /path/to/stuff.7z
[09:06] <Runamok81> Current Setup:  Ubuntu 8.04, Virtualizing Windows XP SP3 via VirtualBox 1.6.2
[09:07] <Runamok81> FTP is crippled on the guest OS
[09:07] <ActionParsnip2> Runamok81: server or client?
[09:08] <Runamok81> FTP D/L's through Windows XP are crippled
[09:08] <blueeagle> Runamok81: Is the hardware you're running this setup on up-to-date?
[09:08] <Runamok81> sure, as of a month ago
[09:08] <ActionParsnip2> Runamok81: is crippled synonymous with slow?
[09:08] <Runamok81> yes, parsoin
[09:08] <Runamok81> parsnip
[09:08] <Runamok81> ridiculously slow
[09:08] <ActionParsnip2> Runamok81: ok so you are connecting to FTP servers with what application?
[09:08] <Runamok81> but still functional
[09:09] <blueeagle> Runamok81: Is FTP the only affected protocol or is all network communication slow?
[09:09] <Runamok81> no, so far only FTP
[09:09] <blueeagle> Runamok81: Did you try transfering from that ftp server with the host os?
[09:09] <Runamok81> the application attempting to connect is called BuildOS.. it uses FTP to update the program
[09:09] <blueeagle> Runamok81: (ie. to determine that there's not a choke on the way to the ftp server)
[09:10] <ActionParsnip2> Runamok81: maybe its a config in there
[09:10] <Runamok81> gotcha
[09:10] <Runamok81> don't have ftp program installed in Ubuntu... one sec
[09:10] <ActionParsnip2> Runamok81: you do, its called ftp
[09:11] <ActionParsnip2> Runamok81: dpkg -l | grep ftp
[09:11] <blueeagle> Runamok81: ftp user:pass@example.com
[09:11] <Rhonda> I got notified through a PTS derivate subscription in Debian about a change to the irssi package and thus found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[09:11] <Rhonda> ... and it makes me wonder, is that really a freenode-only related problem?
[09:12] <Rhonda> If not, why aren't there hints given for other networks? Would switching to port 7000 work for OFTC? And ... isn't that workarounds causing more problems for the general users and firewall admins?
[09:12] <digdug> I have an application I'm running in wine; if I launch it from a terminal window, I get a bunch of "file not found" errors displayed to the standard output; is there a way for me to trace/debug or whatever to try to see what files this application is attempting to access?
[09:12] <Runamok81> $ dpkg -l | grep ftp  return an installed client...
[09:12] <digdug> an easy way*
[09:12] <Runamok81> one sec
[09:12] <ActionParsnip2> Runamok81: yes, think about what the command says
[09:13] <steve_> how do to make Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless work in hardy 8.04?
[09:14] <Runamok81> <--- is messing with FTP
[09:14] <ActionParsnip2> steve_: restricted driver modules or madwifi-tools i believe
[09:14] <steve_> <ActionParsnip2: thanks
[09:15] <fluid> so when im installing ubuntu, is there a way to make it so that it will use 800x600 as the resolution by default when it boots X from the cd at the first boot prompt? im losing it after X starts :(
[09:15] <ActionParsnip2> steve_: use wired til you get fully updated and drivered up
[09:15] <Runamok81> hmmm no way to determine the ftp server being used inside Windows XP...
[09:15] <Runamok81> netstat returns all TCP connections to the virtual
[09:16] <ActionParsnip2> fluid: you need to set it in xorg.conf and you may need to install your graphics drivers
[09:16] <Runamok81> FTP is crippled on the guest OS
[09:16] <fluid> i cant rightfully do that when booting from teh cd
[09:16] <blueeagle> fluid: VGA safe mode is an option at boot iirc.
[09:16] <macvr> guys i got disconnected.... any ideas on .7z file?
[09:16] <ActionParsnip2> Runamok81: so the guest OS is running an ftp server which you are connecting to from another PC?
[09:17] <Runamok81> are .7z files associated to file roller?
[09:17] <blueeagle> macvr: Have you tried file->open from fileroller?
[09:17] <Runamok81> correct...
[09:17] <blueeagle> macvr: Are you sure your archive is not corrupt?
[09:17] <fluid> i also tried the "safe graphics mode" and that didnt work either.
[09:17] <ActionParsnip2> macvr: sudo apt-get install p7zip; p7zip -d /path/to/stuff.7z
[09:17] <ActionParsnip2> fluid: you absolutely can
[09:17] <blueeagle> macvr: Have you tried the p7zip application?
[09:17] <Runamok81> one sec.. let me clarify parsnip
[09:17] <fluid> hmm
[09:17] <fluid> hang on a sec.
[09:17] <Runamok81> Current Setup:  Ubuntu 8.04, Virtualizing Windows XP SP3 via VirtualBox 1.6.2
[09:18] <Runamok81> I'm running a windows program attempting to update via FTP
[09:18] <macvr> ﻿ActionParsnip2:  there is no such archive
[09:18] <iamwho> how do i share stuffs between my xp (host) and linux (guest) on my vmware
 i loaded madwifi, how do i use it?
[09:18] <ActionParsnip2> macvr: you change the /path/to/stuff.7z to YOUR file
[09:18] <blueeagle> macvr: You did change /path/to/stuff.7z to the actual path to your archive, didn't you?
[09:19] <macvr> ﻿ActionParsnip2:  oops
[09:19] <Runamok81> FTP is riduculously slow, ONLY on guest OS
[09:19] <ActionParsnip2> steve_: it gives drivers and tools for stuff, look in your menus, you may need a reboot
[09:19] <ActionParsnip2> macvr: i have no way of knowing where the file is do I. I assumed you'd replace the path
[09:20] <Leonheart>  iamwho: use shared document folder
[09:20] <blueeagle> Runamok81: MTU might be causing head aches.
[09:20] <iamwho> ok i did
[09:20] <iamwho> but i cant get it to work
[09:20] <blueeagle> Runamok81: Did you try another ftp client in the guest os or just the one?
[09:20] <iamwho> i shared a folder in c:
[09:20] <Runamok81> what should I adjust to?  I have access to my Wireless router
[09:20] <iamwho> enbaled it in vmware
[09:20] <ActionParsnip2> Runamok81: do ftp transfers run slow from all servers, or just that one??
[09:20] <iamwho> how do i mount the hgfs ?
[09:21] <Leonheart>  iamwho: the another way is use flash usb drive for it
[09:21] <fluid> the screen in my laptop is messed up (video is always corrupt). so i use it running s-video to a television (its a media pc anyway)... it boots, i can switch to s-video and watch it boot, but as soon as X starts it switches back to the messed up lcd, and will not switch back to svideo. im assuming its because of the resolution.
[09:21] <Runamok81> all FTP transfers are slow inside the guest OS ONLY
[09:21] <Leonheart> but it need replug :P
[09:21] <AdvoWork> is there any way in ubuntu, to have say a folder (which is a folder on my ftp site) so that i can just drag and drop across the file system?
[09:21] <Runamok81> from multiple servers
[09:21] <macvr> ﻿ActionParsnip2: i didnt realize the command fully.... ok it works... but password protected... how do i add the password?[i know the password]
[09:21] <ikonia> Runamok81 guess OS is brdiging out of the host, and your using wirless, thats just a limiting factor of how virtualization can effect you
[09:21] <ikonia> Runamok81: I meant guest
[09:22] <Runamok81> hmmm...
[09:22] <ActionParsnip2> macvr: http://www.digipedia.pl/man/p7zip.1.html
[09:23] <blueeagle> Runamok81: Did you try ftp from the XP command line?
[09:23] <ActionParsnip2> macvr: id be more wary what you paste to your terminal, read what people write then not only will you learn but you won't trip over like that
[09:23] <blueeagle> Runamok81: I've seen a few poor ftp clients on windows to know that not all are very well coded.
[09:23] <Runamok81> would a wired connection make a difference?  I'm guessing this was just a protocol issue... whatwith the connection going through a virtualized NIC card... to HOST OS... etc...
[09:23] <ikonia> Runamok81 a wired connection may make a difference as they are easier to bridge in that the interfact hook is simpler
[09:23] <Runamok81> okay thanks blueeagle.. but there is no way to identify the FTP server
[09:24] <ActionParsnip2> Runamok81: try filezilla in your windows system, it may be a misconfigured app
[09:24] <macvr> ﻿ActionParsnip2: i usually read the command... but  was in a hurry so didnt check!!!!
[09:24] <blueeagle> Runamok81: oh, and follow the adviec ActionParsnip2 just gave. Some people find it funny to tell people to run commands that whipe their harddrives.
[09:24] <macvr> ﻿ ﻿ActionParsnip2: ﻿ thank you.... is there a GUI front end for p7zip?
[09:24] <Leonheart> the problem is. I have two PC, so one is for windows and the another is for ubuntu. I have no problem with virtualbox :P
[09:24] <ActionParsnip2> blueeagle: you'd be suprised how many people say "Couldn't find file file.zip" etc
[09:24] <Leonheart> becoz i don't need it :P
[09:24] <kuldeep> Hi TakiTone
[09:25] <blueeagle> ActionParsnip2: And some people are still looking for the "Any" key.
[09:25] <ActionParsnip2> macvr: no idea, i use cli for decompression, guui is too slow
[09:25] <ActionParsnip2> unrar x ./file.rar
[09:25] <ActionParsnip2> unzip file.zip
[09:25] <ActionParsnip2> beats any stupid gui
[09:25] <Runamok81> well, I'm not familiar with FTP command line interactions,  I've always used cuteFTP or other GUI based interfaces
[09:25] <macvr> ﻿ ﻿ActionParsnip2: .. k... thank you... what to doo noobs like me... got to get away from WINDOZE!!!
[09:26] <thomasite> Hello
[09:26] <blueeagle> ActionParsnip2: you forgot tar x[z|j]vf file.tar.[gz|bz2]
[09:26] <dialman> I can't connect to my windows SMB share from ubuntu. I can ping it. Can't figure out smbclient to connect. Any ideas?
[09:26] <Runamok81> so, for some specific help... from the windows command prompt... how do I determine open FTP connections?
[09:26] <ActionParsnip2> blueeagle: exactly
[09:26] <Runamok81> specifically, the server I'm connected to
[09:26] <ActionParsnip2> Runamok81: netstat -a
[09:27] <blueeagle> dialman: You haven't set up your smb credentials correctly.
[09:27] <ActionParsnip2> Runamok81: just like any other OS
[09:27] <Runamok81> tried that
[09:27] <Runamok81> all connections are TCP
[09:27] <thomasite> I have a question. I installed a version of Scilab on my system. Now that there's a newer version of Scilab, I want to uninstall the older one. However, when I looked for scilab using either Synaptic Package Manager or Add/Remove, scilab didn't appear in the list. How do I remove it? Thanks.
[09:27] <Leonheart> is tht firefox can use ftp://
[09:27] <Leonheart> :P
[09:27] <ActionParsnip2> Runamok81: ftp uses tcp
[09:27] <blueeagle> dialman: ie. your local username/password are not automagically transferred to samba username/passwords
[09:27] <ActionParsnip2> tftp uses udp
[09:27] <dialman> SMB share is setup not to need username or password. Eg. from windows I can 'just connect' without a username or password.
[09:28] <Leonheart> seem like we can use apache for share :P
[09:28] <wartalker> how to set the window position at the bottom
[09:28] <Runamok81> think I found her
[09:28] <blueeagle> dialman: Try looking in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[09:28] <ActionParsnip2> dialman: id set a password for security
[09:28] <thomasite> Hi. I'm sorry for repeating this. ﻿I have a question. I installed a version of Scilab on my system. Now that there's a newer version of Scilab, I want to uninstall the older one. However, when I looked for scilab using either Synaptic Package Manager or Add/Remove, scilab didn't appear in the list. How do I remove it? Thanks.
[09:29] <ActionParsnip2> dialman: did you sudo smbpasswd <your username>
[09:29] <ActionParsnip2> thomasite: sudo dpkg -r scilab
[09:29] <digdug> I need to serve a java webapp, what web server is recommended?
[09:30] <blueeagle> thomasite: Usually, when upgrading you just need to install the new version and it will upgrade automagically. I assume you've tried that and Scilab is an exception to this rule. :)
[09:30] <wartalker> there is Always On Top, is there Always At Bottom?
[09:30] <ActionParsnip2> !apache | digdug
[09:30] <digdug> actionparsnip2: does apache support java webapps out of the box?
[09:30] <thomasite> Thanks, I'll try your suggestions. :)
[09:30] <IntuitiveNipple> digdug: Tomcat, maybe?
[09:31] <blueeagle> wartalker: Not as far as I know, but I do see that sometimes that can be useful. You should try posting a feature request to the developers of the window manager you're using (gnome, xfce or kde)
[09:31] <blueeagle> wartalker: What exactly are you trying to pin to the bottom?
[09:32] <ActionParsnip2> digdug: no idea, id imagine not but id see it as a configurable item. I doubt very little works out of the box
[09:33] <IntuitiveNipple> digdug: If you want to run tomcat behind apache, use the JK connector
[09:33] <thomasite> I tried "﻿sudo dpkg -r scilab" but it didn't work. I got this message: dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove scilab which isn't installed.
[09:33] <wartalker> ﻿blueeagle: my terminal is transparent, i want to it is at the bottom
[09:34] <ActionParsnip2> thomasite: then its not installed
[09:34] <blueeagle> thomasite: how did you install scilab?
[09:34] <neoprog> Hello
[09:34] <Leonheart1> geeh. stupid modem cable :(
[09:34] <blueeagle> !hello
[09:34] <ActionParsnip2> thomasite: did you just copy binarys to a location or did you use a .deb or source
[09:35] <Leonheart1> again... my ghost
[09:35] <neoprog> i have a probleme whit kvm : when i lauch my vm the color of screen is bad
[09:35] <Xcerca> is there a channel for programing with ubuntu ?
[09:35] <Xcerca> or just programing in linux ?
[09:35] <blueeagle> Xcerca: That depends on the language in which you want to develop applications in.
[09:35] <Xcerca> c++
[09:35] <thomasite> I have it in my laptop. I followed the instructions on the Scilab website. I used tar xfz scilab....
[09:35] <ActionParsnip2> Xcerca: try #c++
[09:35] <blueeagle> Xcerca: Did you try #c++
[09:35] <thomasite> It's a binary
[09:36] <Xcerca> no but now i am , thanks
[09:36] <tyberion> Hello, anybody know whether theres something like CoverSutra (MAC) for Linux?
[09:36] <blueeagle> thomasite: Then you just need to delete the directory in which it was extracted to.
[09:37] <blueeagle> tyberion: What does Conversutra do?
[09:37] <ActionParsnip2> thomasite: then simply delete the folder you run scilab from and extract the new one to the same place
[09:37] <blueeagle> tyberion: IM clients that are populare are pidgin (gtk) and kopete (qt).
[09:37] <thomasite> Okay. Thanks. :)
[09:38] <ActionParsnip2> !im
[09:38] <ActionParsnip2> !kopete
[09:39] <blueeagle> thomasite: amarok support global shortcuts me thinks.
[09:39] <blueeagle> thomasite: But it might require kde for the global shortcuts to work.
[09:39] <blueeagle> !amarok
[09:40] <Leonheart1> !totem
[09:40] <Leonheart1> :P
[09:40] <blueeagle> thanks lion. That was what I was trying to get. :)
[09:40] <ActionParsnip2> amarok can also have an XUL controller so you can control playback via firefox (as it needs XUL which IE doesnt do0
[09:40] <paul68> Goodmorning how can I check that my php is running correctly and how to access php over my browser
[09:40] <blueeagle> why is xmms in that list? THat project is dead long time ago.
[09:41] <ActionParsnip2> paul68: http://localhost<some stuff here> id imagine
[09:41] <ActionParsnip2> !xmms > blueeagle
[09:41] <blueeagle> ActionParsnip2: Still it's listed with !totem.
[09:42] <Leonheart1> !mplayer
[09:42] <ActionParsnip2> blueeagle: send a new definition to ubottu so they change it
[09:42] <ActionParsnip2> mplayer is fantastic
[09:42] <blueeagle> ActionParsnip2: Agreed.
[09:42] <paul68> ActionParsnip2: when I do that I get "it Works" where are the files locally stored
[09:42] <ActionParsnip2> paul68: thats the test screen
[09:43] <ActionParsnip2> paul68: have you coded any php yet?
[09:43] <blueeagle> paul68: If you get "It works" then it probably works.
[09:43] <ActionParsnip2> paul68: thats the webserver test page
[09:43] <paul68> ActionParsnip2: yes I did but only under windows and not yet under linux
[09:44] <digdug> I installed tomcat6 using synaptic, and the tomcat server is installed and running on localhost:8080 without me needing to do anything, very nice
[09:44] <digdug> now to see if I can get this webapp installed
[09:44] <ActionParsnip2> paul68: then how can you test something you havent created yet? You need to get access to the php scripts so they can be displayed
[09:44] <ActionParsnip2> digdug: firefox http://localhost:8080
[09:45] <blueeagle> paul68: Personally I prefer to use quanta when developing php. However there are plenty of other editors out there and many people claim some are better than the rest. In the end it's a matter of taste and what you feel comfortable with.
[09:45] <blueeagle> paul68: Just thought you'd might like to know. ;)
[09:45] <manish> can somebody help me with how to install firefox'
[09:45] <manish> and thunderbird
[09:45] <paul68> ActionParsnip2: yes I have some work ready however I don't know where these files are stored in linux
[09:45] <ikonia> manish what's up?
[09:45] <manish> i have downloaded the tar.bz2 files from teh site
[09:46] <ikonia> manish: firefox is installed by default on most ubuntu installs
[09:46] <ikonia> manish: you don't need to download tar files
[09:46] <powertool08> manish: sudo apt-get install firefox thunderbird
[09:46] <ikonia> manish: firefox is installed by default, and thunderbird is in the ubuntu software repository
[09:46] <ActionParsnip2> manish: you dont need those
[09:46] <acp> hi, Im running a internet-shop running ubuntu I know there is now known virus, should I still protect my self from virsus and malware from external devices? what application can you suggest? mostly usb drive are being inserted
[09:46] <manish> i use kubuntu and
[09:46] <paul68> blueeagle: thanks where do I have to put my files that I want to test under php
[09:46] <digdug> I was mostly just saying that I got a working install so people knew which package I used from the repos, but thanks for the help ActionParsnip2
[09:46] <manish> want to use the tar.bz2 to install it
[09:46] <ActionParsnip2> manish: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0 thunderbird
[09:46] <manish> please help
[09:46] <ikonia> manish: if you open your package manager and select firefox and thunderbird as packages you'll be fine
[09:46] <ikonia> manish: do'nt install from tar file
[09:46] <blueeagle> paul68: under /var/www/ somewhere
[09:47] <manish> ok
[09:47] <manish> thanks for that
[09:47] <manish> i will do that
[09:47] <blueeagle> manish: Why would you want to use the tar.gz?
[09:47] <ikonia> manish: they are in the ubunto software repos
[09:47] <paul68> blueeagle: thanks
[09:47] <blueeagle> paul68: anytime.
[09:47] <manish> kubuntu
[09:47] <manish> are they there also
[09:47] <ikonia> manish: kubuntu and ubuntu use the same repo
[09:47] <ActionParsnip2> manish: same deal
[09:47] <manish> and is thunderbird too much bggy
[09:47] <blueeagle> paul68: also please read up on securing your web server.
[09:47] <manish> buggy
[09:47] <ikonia> manish: then don't usei t
[09:47] <ActionParsnip2> manish: same with nubuntu, edubuntu, fluxbuntu
[09:48] <manish> ok
[09:48] <ActionParsnip2> manish: works for me
[09:48] <Leonheart1> ? nudebuntu??? O.o
[09:48] <ActionParsnip2> manish: there are alternatives
[09:48] <ikonia> Leonheart1 no - nubuntu
[09:48] <ActionParsnip2> !nubuntu
[09:48] <manish> no because last time i used it, in later stages it started giving much problems
[09:48] <thomasite> Thanks for the help, people. Have a nice day!
[09:48] <manish> what are the alternatives
[09:48] <Leonheart1> :P
[09:48] <zoom_b> Hello
[09:48] <blueeagle> !email
[09:49] <blueeagle> hmm..
[09:49] <blueeagle> manish: kde has got it's own email client that's not thunderbird.
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> Leonheart1: http://www.nubuntu.org/
[09:49] <manish> waht are the alternatives for thunderbird which are as effective as thunderbird
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> !mail | manish
[09:49] <Leonheart1> hehe... I just joke. nudebuntu :P
[09:50] <Xcerca> has anyone installed code::blocks in ubuntu ?
[09:50] <ikonia> Leonheart1 yes, you said that
[09:50] <Leonheart1> ubuntu without skin theme :P
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> manish: theres evolution, thunderbird, kmail, pine
[09:51] <Leonheart1> I like thunderbird
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> manish: theres thousands to choose from
[09:52] <zoom_b> guys, I have some trouble configuring ubuntu, could anyone help me?
[09:52] <Leonheart1> start asking
[09:52] <Xcerca> zoom_b , what problems ?
[09:52] <zoom_b> got on a laptop
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> i use thunderbird as it knows the weird googlemail stuff, I share the folder across my LAN so all my thunderbirds can read and update the same profile folder
[09:52] <blueeagle> zoom_b: shoot
[09:52] <zoom_b> and I can`t get the soundcard running
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> zoom_b: what soundcard?
[09:53] <blueeagle> zoom_b: Have you checked that your speakers aren't just muted?
[09:53] <zoom_b> it`s pretty much my first linux so I have no idea what to do
[09:53] <zoom_b> no, no mute
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> zoom_b: lspci
[09:53] <blueeagle> zoom_b: do you know how to open a terminal yet?
[09:53] <zoom_b> yeah
[09:53] <zoom_b> I do
[09:53] <zoom_b> momnet
[09:53] <blueeagle> zoom_b: try running alsamixer
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> read the screen, one line will be your soundcard, paste ONLY that line in here
[09:53] <zoom_b> I got right nex to me
[09:53] <blueeagle> zoom_b: then check if master and PCM are muted or set at 0 volume.
[09:53] <Leonheart1> maybe ur sound card is not supported
[09:54] <Leonheart1> the driver
[09:54] <blueeagle> zoom_b: to toggle mute/unmute press the [M] key.
[09:54] <zoom_b> 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia
[09:54] <zoom_b> thats the soundcard
[09:54] <Kartagis> how do i know if real time clock function is supported by my kernel?
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> ok cool, lets get websearching
[09:55] <Leonheart1> If you go out and find save to system clock. then tht not realtime clock (maybe)
[09:55] <blueeagle> zoom_b: So both master and PCM channels are unmuted and has got the volume turned up?
[09:55] <Leonheart1> when shut down
[09:55] <zoom_b> yup
[09:55] <manish_> what are the alternatives for thunder bird as good as it
[09:55] <manish_> hello how do i use ipod with kubuntu
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> !ipod | manish
[09:55] <blueeagle> zoom_b: Ok, we'll have to wait until ActionParsnip gets done seaching the web then. :)
[09:55] <manish_> is there some way to use it
[09:56] <zoom_b> thx
[09:56] <joth> Whenever I try to play a YouTube video on Firefox, it freezes after a couple of seconds. No sound either. Any help would be much appreciated.
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> zoom_b: http://www.datanorth.net/~cuervo/blog/linux-on-the-satellite-a215-s7407/ there is an audio section near the top detailing how to set up your soundcard
[09:56] <blueeagle> ActionParsnip: You do realize that I just told people that you were my biatch, don't you? :p hehe
[09:56] <ikonia> joth how did you install flash ?
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> blueeagle: if you want ;)
[09:56] <manish_> hello
[09:56] <joth> I don't remember installing it
[09:56] <zoom_b> ok, on it ;)
[09:56] <ikonia> joth: install the package flashplugin-nonfree, and restart firefox
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> manish_: they all have advantages, id try a few
[09:57] <joth> I'll try that, thanks!
[09:57] <joth> Hmm...it's already installed
[09:58] <ikonia> joth: ah so it is installed
[09:58] <manish_> can i use ipod with kubuntu
[09:58] <ikonia> joth: is it any flash sites, or just videos
[09:59] <ikonia> manish_: yes
[10:00] <blueeagle> manish_: google for: kubuntu ipod
[10:00] <blueeagle> manish_: You should find http://swik.net/Kubuntu+ipod which appears to be helpful.
[10:00] <joth> Other flash sites are a bit jerky, and still have no sound, but they don't freeze altogether.
[10:02] <thesaltydog> this morning's hardy update has broken the language pack in Firefox. Now I have everything back in english instead of italian
[10:02] <Leonheart1> can just ubuntu have dev package CD :-D
[10:02] <joth> Everything used to work fine - I suspect a recent update broke things.
[10:03] <blueeagle> manish_: make that http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/07/04/how-to-use-amarok-to-manage-your-ipod-in-ubuntu/
[10:04] <NET||abuse> hey guys. I had a setup before where if i held down the Alt+Mouse3 it resized the current window with the mouse, irespective of the mouse location.
[10:04] <NET||abuse> How can i set that up on this machine?
[10:06] <blueeagle> manish_: Oh, and if you want to see something cool. Pop in an audio cd and open it in konqueror. You'll see that konqueror provides mp3, flac and ogg folders where you can just drag and drop files to rip them. ;)
[10:07] <okidogi> hi,how can i make firefox3 the default brower while not firefox2?
[10:07] <Leonheart1> and if u need place too place coffen or beer. u can use that CD Lid too :P
[10:08] <blueeagle> NET||abuse: kde does that by default.
[10:08] <paul68> blueeagle: a question about quanta is there a way to directly set the editor as php standard
[10:09] <blueeagle> paul68: So that it uses php highlighting by default?
[10:09] <Leonheart1> !yakuake
[10:09] <okidogi> it happens when i click on a href, firefox2 , it's bothering.
[10:09] <paul68> blueeagle: yes please
[10:09] <shone> @okidogi try this: system > preferences > custom > "firefox-3.0"
[10:09] <blueeagle> paul68: looking into it
[10:10] <okidogi> shone: no custom menu
[10:11] <shone> @okidogi the drop-down menu, choose custom instead of firefox
[10:12] <shone> @okidogi then youll be able to type in the command you want the system to perform when you click on a link
[10:13] <okidogi> shone: i fowllowed this: system>preference but no custum
[10:13] <shone> @okidogi sry
[10:13] <hanak> whats the linux host key?
[10:13] <shone> @okidogi its on the internet tab
[10:13] <shone> @okidogi under web browser heading
[10:14] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[10:14] <jianfei> lol
[10:14] <okidogi> shone: i see...
[10:14] <paul68> blueeagle: I see under highlighting php however after restarting it comes back to html
[10:14] <hanak> !hostkey
[10:14] <Leonheart1> oh noooo
[10:14] <shone> @okidogi ok so instead firefox choose 'custom'
[10:15] <trilobit`> whoa!
[10:16] <Leonheart1> !geany
[10:16] <kremsner> hy there, I am searching for a Screensaver, like the one in MacOSX, the one which takes the Pictures of your Favorite folder and recreates a picture, anyone know something like that?
[10:16] <okidogi> shone: it's system->preference-> and then prefered applications
[10:16] <okidogi> shone: 3x :)
[10:16] <paul68> blueeagle: I see under highlighting php however after restarting it comes back to html
[10:17] <blueeagle> paul68: I am looking into making a template load by default, but it's not as easy as I think it should be.
[10:17] <Leonheart1> !geany
[10:18] <blueeagle> paul68: I'll write a feature request to the quanta devs so we might see a "default highlight" along with the default indentation style in the "configure editor" window.
[10:18] <Leonheart1> is Geany is syntax highlighting
[10:18] <Leonheart1> and IDE for compiler of course :P
[10:19] <trilobit`> It is said that you can install debian .deb packages in ubuntu. How far does such truth go ?
[10:19] <paul68> blueeagle: thanks  you can notify me through paulus4605 gmail.com
[10:19] <Leonheart1> It use the same debian core of course :P
[10:20] <trilobit`> Leonheart1: true that, but still I'd expect certain dependency issues when it comes to package namings.
[10:21] <Leonheart1> I hate download the depedency. gaaahh....
[10:21] <Leonheart1> i'm offline man :P
[10:22] <shone> anybody know how to open .ram files without helix player ?
[10:23] <trilobit`> shone: would that be as opening text files without an editor ?
[10:23] <jmv> Bonjour
[10:23] <ghaleb> hello, how can I record each keystroke on my ssh connections ?
[10:23] <shone> @trilobit' helix droped dead when i set up pulseaudio
[10:24] <jmv> Est ce que qqu'un parle français ?
[10:24] <shone> @trilobit' isnt there any other way to play the thing
[10:24] <jmv> OK, bye
[10:25] <trilobit`> shone: I don't use .ram files much. I'll have to search for it if you like.
[10:25] <abby87> !fr
[10:25] <shone> @trilobit' i dont either, just need to open one radio stream
[10:25] <shone> @trilobit' ill be here for some time
[10:25] <abby87> !fr | jmv
[10:26] <shone> @trilobit' if you find something interesting let me know tnx :)
[10:29] <peter771> I want to upgrade alsa to the latest version and also make it visible in synaptic making it easier to remove should it go horribly wrong, I am using Ubuntu Gutsy
[10:29] <peter771> how should I go about doing this?
[10:30] <Leonheart1> does it better upgrade to hardy :?
[10:31] <scuser> hi all, I'm using ubuntu 8.04, I've been trying to login to the system where the information about the user is saved in ldap db and the authentication is via kerberos; I've watched the auth.log on the server, the user was granted a ticket but the user didn't login as it can't find the information on the server, how can I solve this problem
[10:32] <suns> salve
[10:32] <suns> i'm italian
[10:32] <suns> where i can speak about amule?
[10:32] <Leonheart1> !amule
[10:33] <suns> !amule
[10:33] <paul68> blueeagle: thanks  you can notify me through paulus4605 gmail.com
[10:34] <meek> hi
[10:34] <meek> anyone need help?
[10:34] <Leonheart1> maybe
[10:34] <ikonia> many people, if you hang around people will ask questions
[10:35] <meek> righteeo
[10:35] <Leonheart1> help! i need some money. :P
[10:35] <meek> i know that game
[10:35] <Leonheart1> can u gimme ?
[10:35] <shone> heres (a dumb) one: can i open ram files without helix player?
[10:35] <Caveman> meek: wow, strange to get someone asking if anyone has questions!!
[10:36] <meek> Caveman: I try.. hehe
[10:36] <Leonheart1> he wanna help. he don't need question
[10:36] <meek> Caveman: im in #windows too
[10:36] <Caveman> lol
[10:36] <Caveman> fun fun!
[10:36] <scuser> hi all, I've added the necessary lines to common-account and added ldap to nsswitch.conf but there were no response for the ldap user
[10:36] <meek> boredom lol
[10:36] <strange> hah meek from efnet? (#divx-classics a few years ago) ?
[10:36] <Leonheart1> and I'm in DOS 32-bit
[10:36] <Caveman> although I work wiht windows 9 to 5
[10:36] <Caveman> hah
[10:37] <ikonia> scuser you need to change the resolution order to "ldap" files rather than files
[10:37] <meek> strange: no i dont think that was me
[10:37] <paul68> Caveman: windows 95 lol
[10:37] <meek> ha yes
[10:37] <peter771> does anyone know how to install the latest version of alsa instead of the one in the repository?
[10:37] <ikonia> peter771 why do you need it ?
[10:38] <ikonia> peter771: changing the alsa version can have serious effects on your system
[10:38] <scuser> ikonia: yes, through nsswitch.conf I added passwd: files ldap, and the same for group and shadow, does this mean that the info in db is unreachable or incorrect ?
[10:38] <Leonheart1> salsa with alsa
[10:38] <ikonia> scuser that means it will use files before ldap
[10:38] <strange> meek: i still think it was something about a dolphin church springs to mind when i see your nick :P
[10:38] <ikonia> !offtopic
[10:39] <scuser> ikonia: I've tried it as ldap then files and the same happens, the user takes the ticket but it never logs in
[10:39] <peter771> ikonia, the latest version used in intrepid includes a fix for my sound card however I don't want to upgrade to intrepid as 8.04 causes serious system freezes
[10:40] <ikonia> scuser from the client can you query the ldap directory
[10:40] <ikonia> peter771 I see, have you considered waiting for a backport, or contactng the alsa-ubuntu maintainers to query a backport ?
[10:41] <peter771> ikonia: so its not possible otherwise to compile alsa 1.0.17 to work with the gutsy kernel?
[10:41] <scuser> ikonia: sure through ldapsearch
[10:42] <ikonia> peter771: it is possible, it just can have seiours effects as sound is a pretty "linked" component to the desktop
[10:42] <ikonia> scuser: so from the client you can query the server using ldap search and see the user details your trying to login as ?
[10:43] <Leonheart1> im-death.a
[10:43] <peter771> ikonia, I know I've tried the howto's on the forums before with negative consequences which is why I wondered if an entry could be made in synaptic making it easy to revert back to the current version of alsa in the gutsy repo
[10:43] <scuser> ikonia: the results are shown on the terminal, but the strange thing is that the debug log on the server produces permission denied to open berkely db, but I can see the user details
[10:44] <ikonia> peter771 thats why I said contact the maintainer for a backport
[10:44] <Caveman> help
[10:44] <ikonia> scuser ok - have you checked your binding user credentials ?
[10:44] <Leonheart1> canonical claim there is 8 Million Ubuntu user
[10:44] <ikonia> Caveman: what's the issue
[10:44] <ikonia> Leonheart1: please stop with offtopic noise
[10:45] <Leonheart1> <Just info>
[10:45] <scuser> ikonia: what is the binding user credentials ? kerberos tickets or what ?
[10:45] <ikonia> Leonheart1 no - offtopic noise
[10:45] <Caveman> ikonia: oh my bad,, I forgot a / haha
[10:45] <ikonia> scuser when your querying ldap from the command line your binding as you, who have you set up the "system" to bind as ?
[10:46] <Caveman> trying to learn how to use ircii client
[10:46] <Caveman> its killing me!!
[10:46] <Caveman> lol
[10:46] <Caveman> but I'm sure i'll get used to it
[10:46] <ikonia> Caveman not to worry
[10:46] <Dudema1> Is there a way to get nautilus to open some other folder instead of the home folder by default?
[10:46] <Dudema1> i.e. open ~/Documents instead of the home folder at startup?
[10:46] <ikonia> Dudema1 I think there is a gconf setting for that
[10:47] <scuser> ikonia: sorry can't get you
[10:47] <Leonheart1> yeah. maybe just nake new panel will goog
[10:47] <Dudema1> how does one open up gconf again?
[10:48] <ikonia> Dudema1 gconfeditor
[10:48] <Leonheart1> never do it before though
[10:48] <ikonia> scuser your slapd.conf on your client machine, who are you binding as
[10:49] <Dudema1> nothing, ikonia
[10:49] <ikonia> Dudema1v search the package manager for gconf editor
[10:49] <ikonia> Dudema1 sorry that was for you
[10:49] <scuser> ikonia: slapd.conf is only on the server not on the client machine
[10:49] <Dudema1> ikonia: ah
[10:49] <apolo> bonjour mr
[10:49] <ikonia> scuser I thought you had to have one on the client to specify which server you needed to bind to
[10:49] <legend2440> Dudema1: gconf-editor
[10:50] <Dudema1> legend2440: there we go
[10:50] <iceman> hi guys ! I'm trying to make my DVI output work on my laptop running Hardy. Do you have any pointers on how to do that?
[10:50] <Dudema1> iceman: would you be from the uplink community by any chance?
[10:50] <ikonia> iceman plug the monitor in and open the screen resolultion appliction
[10:51] <scuser> ikonia: you mean ldap.conf, here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/55222/
[10:51] <ikonia> scuser: ahh thats it - thank you
[10:51] <iceman> Dudema1: hum, I have been part of ubuntu-be for some time, but now I'm concentrating on my thesis, so I'm not as involved as before
[10:51] <ikonia> scuser arn't you missing a user in there
[10:52] <scuser> ikonia: which user ?
[10:52] <ikonia> scuser: one moment, let me see if I can get access to my ldap config
[10:52] <iceman> Dudema1: but I'm not quite sure what you mean by "upstream community"
[10:53] <Dudema1> iceman: I said uplink community, not upstream community
[10:53] <Heimatlos22> halo
[10:53] <Heimatlos22> valaki magyarul?
[10:53] <Dudema1> iceman: no matter, I mistook you for someone else.
[10:53] <iceman> ikonia: I have already tried to do that, but it only shows a "unknown screen", and seems to do nothing when I click "detect screens"
[10:53] <iceman> Dudema1: okay ^^
[10:53] <cableroy> i got a problem playing mp3, it has been working before but here is the problem. mplayer file.mp3 don't work no error but don't play, mpg123 don't work, rhythmbox don't work, xmms works but doesn't skip to next song after one is finished.. suggestions?
[10:55] <mgolisch> cableroy: mostlikely its some problem with your output plugin
[10:55] <mgolisch> like you selected pulseaudio but no pulseaudio server is running
[10:56] <cableroy> mgolisch: ok, i'll take a look at it
[10:57] <stanman1> hi, anyone have ubuntu 8.04 server running?
[10:58] <ikonia> yup
[10:58] <stanman1> ..and openvz?
[10:58] <ikonia> nope
[10:58] <stanman1> darn...
[10:58] <stanman1> anyone using openvz?
[10:59] <Leonheart1> !openvz
[10:59] <iceman> ikonia: do you know more about making the DVI output work? as I said the screen resolution application doesn't seem to detect my LCD screen...
[10:59] <blueeagle> paul68: The simplest workaround is to just save the file as myfile.php and then it will change highlighting autmagically.
[10:59] <Leonheart1> me too
[11:00] <ikonia> iceman then you have to hardcode it in xorg
[11:00] <murlidhar> !info openvz
[11:00] <murlidhar> !info openvz | stanman1
[11:01] <iceman> ikonia: and I'm guessing it isn't possible to hardcode the fact that it should use the LCD screen if it's connected and the laptop screen otherwise...
[11:01] <ikonia> iceman no, no you should be able to hardcode it
[11:01] <ikonia> iceman: what video card do you have in the laptop
[11:02] <iceman> it's an intel chip
[11:02] <ikonia> don't see that as being a problem
[11:02] <ikonia> !dualhead
[11:02] <ikonia> there you ho
[11:02] <ikonia> go
[11:02] <FloodBot1> ikonia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:04] <iceman> ikonia: I'm not really planning on using both screens at once. I just want to be able to use the DVI output when I plug it in
[11:04] <scuser> ikonia: hey any new ideas?
[11:05] <iceman> I thought that sort of things would work automagically now...
[11:05] <ikonia> scuser: just reading my configs now
[11:05] <blak> How do you know that ntp is actually working correctly? mine is always at 0 across the board when i do ntpq -plist
[11:05] <iceman> especially as it works when I use my DVI to VGA adapter
[11:06] <ikonia> iceman: doesn't you laptop have a function key sequnce to swap to dvi/vga out ?
[11:06] <scuser> konia: ok can I see it if it's ok?
[11:06] <ikonia> scuser just checking there is nothing serious in it before displaying
[11:06] <iceman> ikonia: yep, and it works fine when I use my DVI to VGA adapter, but not when I directly plug a DVI cable in
[11:06] <ikonia> iceman sounds like a bug
[11:07] <scuser> ok
[11:07] <ikonia> scuser well one thing I can tell you is that my ldap.cofn file which includes kerberos is MUCH bigger than yours
[11:07] <iceman> ikonia: ok, where should I report this?
[11:07] <ikonia> iceman launchpad
[11:08] <iceman> ikonia: that, I know. what package? xorg?
[11:08] <ikonia> iceman gnome-desktop
[11:08] <scuser> ikonia I'll show you another one that may be the one you need as there are 2 ldap.conf files and we don't know which one is used
[11:08] <ikonia> scuser /etc/ldap.conf and /etc/openldap/ldap.conf ;)
[11:08] <quentusrex> Hello. I have an apache server. The host name is set properly, but the domain isn't. How do I change the domain that apache believes references to my server?
[11:09] <ikonia> quentusrex use the ServerName directive
[11:09] <blak> How do you know that ntp is actually working correctly? mine is always at 0 across the board when i do ntpq -plist
[11:09] <quentusrex> how?
[11:09] <scuser> ikonia : yes
[11:09] <ikonia> blak: stop ntp for 2 minutes, then do an ntpdate and see what the drift is
[11:09] <ikonia> quentusrex edit the config file and change the ServerName directive to your FQDN
[11:09] <blak> ikonia how do i stop it?
[11:10] <ikonia> blak use the init script
[11:10] <rdx> Anyone here know anything about ubuntustudios rt-kernel and nvidia drivers?
[11:10] <blak> if i do ntpdate it says  no servers can be used, exiting
[11:10] <ikonia> scuser my config is going to be quite different to yours, for some reason (I don't know why) I've got the ldap servers bind details in kerberos
[11:10] <ikonia> blak you have to specify a time server to sync against
[11:11] <blak> i have the gnome time applet supposedly syncing...
[11:11] <charley_Brown> hello everyone!
[11:11] <ikonia> blak not what I suggested
[11:11] <scuser> ikonia: how?
[11:11] <ikonia> scuser a good question, this isn't mysetup
[11:11] <trav> I have an ubuntu 7.04 cd, and a computer that's not on the net... yet
[11:11] <trav> if I install 7.04 on it, and connect it, will it be able to jump straight to 8?
[11:11] <scuser> ikonia: please If you can let me see it please
[11:12] <trav> or will it freak out and require big downloads?
[11:12] <ikonia> scuser I'v asked, waiting for them to confirm it's fine
[11:12] <ikonia> scuser: also trying to get access to "my" configs which are more simple
[11:12] <scuser> ikonia: ok
[11:12] <ikonia> trav it will require big downloads
[11:12] <ikonia> trav: you may find it easier to just download 8.04 and do an install
[11:12] <trav> hmm
[11:12] <blak> where is this init and how do i use it ikonia?
[11:12] <trav> yeah, I was thinking that
[11:12] <ikonia> blak /etc/init.d
[11:13] <ikonia> blak: or use update-rc.d
[11:13] <trav> my isp hosts ubuntu on a mirror at http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/ubuntu/ubuntu/ but I can't find the cd image
[11:13] <blueeagle> I am in need of running a script every three hours and one minute (not 1 minute passed every 3rd hour). Does anyone know how that may best be accomplished?
[11:13] <trav> or maybe I can and don't recognise it
[11:13] <blueeagle> ie if it runs at noon then it needs to run at one past three and two passed six.
[11:13] <ikonia> blueeagle put it in cron, 3,6,9,`12,16,20,00
[11:14] <blak> where is update-rc.d located?
[11:14] <blueeagle> ..then at three past nine and four past midnight and five past three.
[11:14] <ikonia> trav they are repo mirrors
[11:15] <ikonia> blueeagle youd have to script that then
[11:15] <trav> so that's different from the cd image then :/
[11:15] <ikonia> trav they are the software repos
[11:15] <charley_Brown> hey! andy of oyu guys has an idea how to get a KDE-Application installed under Ubuntu (gnome). When i do "configure" i get this error: X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[11:15] <blueeagle> ikonia: I was afraid of that. :/ And I so love bash scripting. :p
[11:15] <charley_Brown> sorry for the spelling
[11:15] <ikonia> charley_Brown don't build from source
[11:15] <trav> so the packages I see in the package manager go into the url that I posted, so I'm looking in the wrong spot
[11:15] <trav> thanks ikonia
[11:15] <ikonia> charley_Brown what application do you want
[11:15] <charley_Brown> i have only the source
[11:16] <ikonia> trav you got it
[11:16] <ikonia> charley_Brown what's it called
[11:16] <blak> ikonia: where is that last file you reference?
[11:16] <ikonia> blak it's binary
[11:16] <charley_Brown> it's this one: http://www.gantz-edv.de/mlo/kmlofax_e.html
[11:17] <ikonia> trav: http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/ubuntu/releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[11:17] <charley_Brown> i installed buildessential
[11:17] <trav> aha! victory is mine! ftp://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/ubuntu/releases/8.04.1/
[11:17] <userconfused> hi people
[11:18] <ikonia> charley_Brown your going to need a LOT more than that
[11:18] <ikonia> charley_Brown: that package isn't in the repo's either, which is a shame
[11:19] <trav> oh hey,
[11:19] <trav> ikonia you already tole me :P
[11:19] <trav> thanks
[11:19] <lordleemo> charley_Brown: sudo apt-get install kdelibs-dev
[11:19] <trav> s/tole/told
[11:19] <blip-> i just installed a deb package for the latest version of launchy on ubuntu 8.04... it now shows up installed in synaptic,  but running the "launchy" does not bring up any window or anything.
[11:20] <blip-> i simply followed this:  http://phorolinux.com/how-to-install-launchy-on-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron.html
[11:21] <rapha> Hi all!
[11:22] <themidnight1> blip: did it get installed in apps-->acc?
[11:22] <rapha> Is there any chance I can get OpenOffice.org 2.4.1 packages for Dapper Drake AMD64 anywhere?
[11:22] <ikonia> rapha nope
[11:22] <rapha> :-(
[11:22] <ikonia> rapha pretty slim odds on that
[11:22] <rapha> IA32 packages that will somehow run anyways then, ikonia?
[11:22] <charley_Brown> ﻿lordleemo: i think i installed that yeasterday already, but let me check...
[11:22] <ikonia> rapha: best bet is to contact the ubuntu package maintainer and request a backport
[11:23] <rapha> ic
[11:23] <rapha> How do I find out who it is?
[11:23] <ikonia> rapha the names are listed on launchpad
[11:23] <rapha> k, thanks ikonia!
[11:23] <blak> ikonia: if i do sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org i get  ntpdate[15742]: no server suitable for synchronization
[11:24] <ikonia> blak check your spelling
[11:24] <ikonia> just worked fie for me
[11:25] <charley_Brown> i installed kdevelop 4:3.5.1 yesterday - is this the same?
[11:25] <blak> i did sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org    exactly
[11:25] <blak> ikonia: do i need to start ntp agian?
[11:25] <ikonia> sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org 8 Oct 11:24:24 ntpdate[22530]: step time server 193.0.71.133 offset -33.667354
[11:25] <ikonia> blak no
[11:26] <Ow> cfbnk
[11:26] <ikonia> blak: can you ping pool.ntp.org
[11:26] <blak> ikonia: not started and i do sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org and it gives me tha terror
[11:26] <ikonia> blak can you ping it
[11:26] <blak> ikonia: yes fine
[11:26] <ikonia> blak something on your network (firewall maybe) is blocking ntp then
[11:27] <blak> ikonia: it isn't because i did sudo ntp -stop
[11:27] <ikonia> blak no
[11:27] <ikonia> blak: ps -ef | grep ntp will show that ntp should not be running
[11:28] <blak> its running
[11:28] <ikonia> blak then it shouldn't be
[11:28] <ikonia> blak: I told you to stop it
[11:28] <blak> thought i did lol
[11:28] <charley_Brown> ﻿ ﻿lordleemo: is waht i installed the same?
[11:29] <blak> * Stopping NTP server ntpd                                                     [ OK ]
[11:29] <charley_Brown> ﻿ ﻿lordleemo: i tried your apt-get, but it wouldn't work
[11:29] <blak> ok its not ther enow ikonia
[11:29] <lordleemo> charley_Brown: see if you have x-window-system-dev   qt dev   and  kdelibs-dev   installed
[11:30] <charley_Brown> i look in synaptics?
[11:30] <lordleemo> charley_Brown:  look in synaptics
[11:31] <nsprams> Hi folks, when mounting a window share.. i am not able to access.. and the system hangs..
[11:31] <nsprams> can anyone help me.. with this?
[11:31] <ikonia> themidnight1 what are you doing ?
[11:31] <blueeagle> How do I go about starting a php command line script at boot time?
[11:32] <ikonia> blueeagle call the php cli interface in a script
[11:32] <rapha> ikonia: Hey, another question. I kept searching a bit in aptitude, and there is a package 'openoffice.org-ure' listed there, but I can't install it ("No candidate version found for openoffice.org-ure") - any chance I might find that around somewhere for OOo 2.0 AMD64?
[11:32] <ikonia> rapha if you re-read the error you'll find it's telling you the issue
[11:32] <ikonia> "no install candidate availabl3"
[11:32] <blak> ikonia: still getting  ntpdate[16463]: no server suitable for synchronization found
[11:32] <blueeagle> ikonia: Well which script would that be. I've never done any scripts for /etc/init.d before.
[11:33] <ikonia> blak is ntp running
[11:33] <blak> ikonia: its not running
[11:33] <ikonia> blueeagle you need to make a new one, or put it in rc.local
[11:33] <rapha> ikonia: yeah, sure, but why does it then list the package in the first place? Isn't that an indicator that it once existed?
[11:33] <ikonia> blak then as I said earlier something is blocking your server from doing ntp
[11:33] <ikonia> rapha no
[11:33] <rapha> k :-/
[11:34] <nsprams> Hi folks, when mounting a window share.. i am not able to access.. and the system hangs..  can anyone help ?
[11:34] <blak> ikonia: i would only have the defaults blocked from a new instlall of 8.04.1
[11:34] <ikonia> blak router or ISP ?
[11:34] <blueeagle> ikonia: ahh.. googling for rc.local then. :)
[11:34] <rapha> Maybe I'll just try building it myself.
[11:34] <blak> ikonia: oh good call, i actually am behind a router, i forgot, i usually dont use this AP
[11:34] <NET||abuse> blueeagle: kde does it by default, any way to get gnome to do it? referenceing my earlier question about resizing windows with alt+mouse3 and drag
[11:35] <NET||abuse> and I have to simulate mouse3 with holding down left and right click
[11:36] <blueeagle> NET||abuse: I don't use gnome so I wouldn't know, surry.
[11:36] <blueeagle> sorry*
[11:36] <NET||abuse> i've looked in system->prefs->keyboardshortcuts but ther's no way i can see to assign mouse clicks as events
[11:36] <blueeagle> ikonia: Is it cocher to put: "php /path/to/script.php &" into rc.local for a script that will perpetually run?
[11:36] <blueeagle> kosher*
[11:36] <NET||abuse> It was a settings in feisty with compiz i remember, now on fresh hardy install without compiz(vmware) and can't do any window resizing this way anymore :(
[11:37] <ikonia> blueeagle dno't see why not
[11:37] <bastid_raZor> NET||abuse; try the middle click and alt to resize
[11:37] <NET||abuse> bastid_raZor: I've only 2 button mice
[11:37] <bastid_raZor> NET||abuse; by middle. i meant the scroll wheel.. oh...
[11:38] <NET||abuse> bastid_raZor: yeh my mouse wheel doesn't have a click in, so it's not a button,  but holding both buttons should simulate button 3
[11:38] <quantumelixir> Could anyone tell me what the use for a passphrase(while using ssh-keygen) is?
[11:38] <NET||abuse> though maybe my mouse device isn't configured to do this correctly,
[11:38] <NET||abuse> hmm, i have Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" in xorg.conf
[11:39] <nsprams> Hi folks, when mounting a window share.. i am not able to access.. and the system hangs..  can anyone help ?
[11:39] <NET||abuse> ahhhh, on my track pad it works.. but not on my external usb mouse??
[11:39] <NET||abuse> damnit
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> maybe the trackpad is capturing the 3 button emulation thing (?)
[11:41] <NET||abuse> it seems to be working on track pad, yeh, why wouldn't it follow through to usb mouse?
[11:41] <NET||abuse> fairly standard usb mouse
[11:41] <NET||abuse> i could switch mice in the office later and try other one. s
[11:41] <Samushka> Hello, im practicing how to compile applications from SVN and BZR, it's all going good... one annoyance is having to re-run .autogen and then finding out im missing something, then running it again, something else is missing, etc etc ... is there any way to run autogen to list all the missing packages, so i can just install then in one shot instead of re-running autogen all the time?
[11:41] <NET||abuse> hmm, ok, well i'm one step closer :)
[11:41] <quantumelixir> What is the use for a passphrase(while using ssh-keygen)?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> quantumelixir: to create a security key for encryption
[11:42] <NET||abuse> quantumelixir: means you don't get to decrypt the content under protection by that key without using that passphrase
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> NET||abuse: id try the 2nd mouse, although 3rd button emulation is on, perhaps the mouse cant send both left and right click signals together
[11:43] <NET||abuse> i sometimes use it to protect my ssh certificated sessions, when you import your public key into the known-hosts file on a remote server, you can login without a password,
[11:43] <blak> ikonia: i bet my university blocks that port
[11:44] <zetheroo-ubuntu> Is there a way to install Windows XP Pro on a machine that only has Ubuntu on it without having to reformat and start from scratch?
[11:44] <ikonia> blak quite possibly
[11:44] <scuser> ikonia: system doesn't contact nsswitch.conf for retrieving users and passwords, how can I configure the system to check nsswitch to get the user info
[11:44] <Oprtz> hi, i have a home LAN network, consisting of 2 computer, 1 is windowsXp and the other is ubuntu 8.04(this machine) i want to access the shared files of my windowsXp and viceversa, can i do this ? if yes how? i dont know abt ubuntu networking
[11:44] <ikonia> zetheroo-ubuntu yes, pre-partition the disk
[11:44] <AMD007> Gedit hangs on my system, what can be the problem??
[11:44] <ikonia> scuser it should use nsswitch.conf
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo-ubuntu: you can resize partitions with gparted, then when you have free space, install xp to that gap
[11:45] <ikonia> !samba > Oprtz
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo-ubuntu: you will need to reinstall grub though as xp will write the bootsector with its own
[11:45] <scuser> ikonia: I disabled the lines passwd, group and shadow and I still can login ?
[11:45] <zetheroo-ubuntu> ActionParsnip : so thats all? ...
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> AMD007: reinstall gedit
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo-ubuntu: yeah
[11:45] <ikonia> scuser disabled ?
[11:45] <NET||abuse> ActionParsnip: yeh, this is one possability, it's a usb dongle to a wireless logitec mouse
[11:45] <ikonia> scuser: define disabled
[11:45] <Oprtz> Ubutto : ok
[11:45] <AMD007> ActionParsnip : i did it
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> AMD007: is there a config file in ~/  ?
[11:45] <Oprtz> ikonia:  i dont know how to install samba
[11:45] <NET||abuse> ActionParsnip: ok, poo to it.
[11:45] <ikonia> Oprtz: read the pm ubottu sent you
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> NET||abuse: logitech doesnt like linux too much
[11:46] <zetheroo-ubuntu> ActionParsnip : but how can I resize the partition when I am booted into it?
[11:46] <quantumelixir> NET||abuse: So if I want to ssh into a computer then should I know a passphrase besides the password?
[11:46] <NET||abuse> ActionParsnip: aww, so annoying
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo-ubuntu: you boot to livecd
[11:46] <zetheroo-ubuntu> ActionParsnip : ok... thanks
[11:46] <Oprtz> ikonia: ok buddy
[11:46] <scuser> ikonia: here is the nsswitch.conf file http://paste.ubuntu.com/55232/
[11:46] <AMD007> ActionParsni : with which filename (config file)
[11:46] <ikonia> scuser commenting them out sets them to default which is "files"
[11:47] <NET||abuse> quantumelixir: well if you have published your rsa key to the remote server into it's known-hosts file, then you don't generally need to provide a password for that system, but then to protect the rsa key used in this process you can just passphrase the key itself, means that you have one password for all systems you login to,
[11:47] <scuser> ikonia: oh, I see
[11:47] <NET||abuse> that prevents physical access to your pc being a problem
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> AMD007: is there one called .gedit
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> AMD007: or .geditrc
[11:48] <AMD007> ActionParsni : no its not available, i did sudo ls -la
[11:48] <NET||abuse> quantumelixir: at least phsyical access to your pc being a BIT less of a security problem anyway..
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> AMD007: basically you need to find where gedit keeps its settings
[11:48] <quantumelixir> NET||abuse: you mean if that computer considers me a known host then I needn't provide password/phrase?
[11:48] <AMD007> ActionParsnip : hmm
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> AMD007: try cd ~/; find -name gedit*
[11:49] <NET||abuse> quantumelixir: so if you ssh into lots of servers, with different root passwords, when you first get access to them, you can publish your ssh-keygen'd key to that server, and not have to remember the root credentials for that server, just your rsa key passphrase
[11:49] <blueeagle> ikonia: It didn't work to run "php scriptname.php &" as it gets stopped when put in background. :/
[11:49] <AMD007> ActionParsnip : ok wait
[11:49] <ikonia> blueeagle nohup it
[11:49] <iceman> my keyboard layout is correct in CLI ttys and in my GNOME session. However, it isn't correct in GDM. How do I change it WITHOUT creating a xorg.conf file?
[11:49] <blueeagle> googling
[11:49] <ikonia> iceman xorg.conf is nothing to do with gdm
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> iceman: you have an xorg.conf file
[11:49] <quantumelixir> NET||abuse: So the passphrase becomes an alias for many root pwds?
[11:50] <NET||abuse> quantumelixir: if you generate your key without a passphrase, then send the key to the remote servers known-hosts file, then when you login with ssh root@remoteserverip it will drop you STRAIGHT to the root prompt, no password
[11:50] <NET||abuse> quantumelixir: kinda :)
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> quantumelixir: id log in as a user with sudo access
[11:50] <NET||abuse> quantumelixir: yeh, more or less, in an inexact metaphore that would be kinda correct
[11:50] <scientus> can i rerun the menu.1st creation script?
[11:50] <scientus> i accidentally deleated my windows line
[11:50] <NET||abuse> quantumelixir: hehe, how do you like that for clarity :)
[11:50] <scuser> ikonia: is there any log file I can trace to see if the client contacts the LDAP server during login or not ?
[11:50] <quantumelixir> NET||abuse: Thanks a lot!
[11:50] <scientus> and i dont want to figure outhow to get it working again
[11:51] <ikonia> scuser snoop the network with tcpdump or either real, see the auth.log on the server,
[11:51] <NET||abuse> quantumelixir: basically you also have to make sure the remote hosts sshd.conf has the allowtrusted hosts settings to be set. ... one sec while I lookup what that directive is though
[11:51] <iceman> ikonia: hum, my layout was correct before, but now that I deleted my xorg.conf, it isn't anymore. If they aren't supposed to be related, this is a bug.
[11:51] <quantumelixir> NET||abuse: About the protocol itself.. we require separate public-private key pairs for each connection right?
[11:52] <ikonia> iceman well in that case you must have forced a language in your xorg
[11:52] <ikonia> iceman why did you delete your xorg
[11:52] <blueeagle> ikonia: Well that helped, but even sleep() in php causes it to use 90+% cpu. :/
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> scientus: i dunno about recretaing, heres the syntax of the file. back it up before you play so you can roll back if you screw up (as you have seen) http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/56461-grub-menu-lst-chainloader-help-needed.html
[11:52] <blueeagle> ikonia: Thanks for the guidance tho. Really appreciated.
[11:52] <iceman> ikonia: to see if the screen auto-detect would work better, and it does !
[11:52] <ikonia> blueeagle php cli stuff normally spikes at startup then settles down - I don't know why
[11:52] <scientus> i dont have a problem with lithe linux lines
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> iceman: you need to set kb layout in xorgconf to the correct country
[11:53] <scientus> ubuntu has allways gotten the hard drive numbers wrong on every install ive done
[11:53] <icesword> iceman, hehe, nice nick
[11:53] <scientus> or the root it sends to the kernel giving me itraramfs
[11:53] <blip-> why doesn't Launchy show icons for the programs, it shows an empty white icon for some progs like skype and pidgin\
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> scientus: there are parts for windows too, find the word chainloader
[11:53] <NET||abuse> quantumelixir: the 2 directives in question are RSAAuthentication yes and PubkeyAuthentication yes in /etc/sshd_confg
[11:53] <iceman> ActionParsnip: I don't have a xorg.conf anymore, I don't want to restore it because my DVI screen won't work if I do
[11:53] <NET||abuse> quantumelixir: the pub/private key thing? not sure what you mean?
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> iceman: why didnt you simply rename instead of delete?
[11:54] <quantumelixir> NET||abuse: As in, we require different pairs for different connection right?
[11:54] <maxagaz> how to use empathy ?
[11:54] <scientus> there i found stuff with the right language
[11:54] <maxagaz> how to add an account ?
[11:54] <blueeagle> ikonia: Again you are right. Thanks a million. ;)
[11:54] <iceman> ActionParsnip: actually, that's what I did...
[11:54] <ikonia> blueeagle no problem
[11:54] <ikonia> blueeagle: I wish I could explain why that happens
[11:54] <scientus> the kernel install deb i ran deleated those entries
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> maxagaz: http://nixcraft.com/getting-started-tutorials/3293-create-new-user-account-ubuntu-linux-command-line.html
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> iceman: then rename back
[11:55] <catmando> hello all
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> iceman: you can always comment out lines
[11:55] <iceman> ActionParsnip: then I'll be back where I started, without my DVI screen.
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> iceman: you may have to go there first to get to the goal
[11:55] <quantumelixir> NET||abuse: When I ssh into a new host is a new public private key pair generated?
[11:56] <scientus> it deleated the importand parts even when i said keep the old version really suxs
[11:56] <scientus> cause i changed the format a little
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> scientus: maybe you hit save earlier
[11:57] <dns53> php has the wrong time as the state has switched over to daylight saving at a different time, how do i manually change it
[11:57] <scientus> no i hit save, then keep, then it said changed on disk
[11:57] <iceman> ActionParsnip: I don't know what you mean. Situation was : correct kb layout in GDM and NO detection of DVI screen. After renaming of the xorg.conf, I got WRONG layout in GDM (correct everywhere else) and external DVI screen detected (yeah!)
[11:57] <scientus> it was above the 'eample part's so it just reset that part
[11:57] <scientus> *example part
[11:58] <quantumelixir> NET||abuse: Sorry,  I think I got confused a bit. Everyone has only one private-public pair no matter how many hosts they connect to right?
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> iceman: ok then with the display all good, set your keyboard language in xorg.conf
[11:58] <iceman> ActionParsnip: to do that, I'll have to restore it, which would again break my external display...
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> iceman: if you dont restore it you wont have any settings for your x server and one will be made
[11:59] <makkro> have installed a xen kernel but it wont show up in menu.lst Ubuntu server 8.04 64Bit, have run grub-update, any ideas?
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> makkro: how did you install it?
[12:00] <makkro> apt-get
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> makkro: strange, i thought itd update stuff
[12:00] <makkro> ActionParsnip, me too
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> makkro: only thing i can suggest is backup your menu.lst and add it manually
[12:01] <iceman> ActionParsnip: I don't understand what you mean. My screens work better without a xorg.conf (which is now obsolete, as xorg is supposed to autoconfigure). If I restore it my external screen won't work.
[12:02] <aunvoh> anyone feel like helping a noob with virtual box? i can't get my sound to work
[12:02] <makkro> ActionParsnip, have tried it, cannot boot on that kernel
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> iceman: your system needs an xorg.conf
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> iceman: it sets up the mouse, keyboard and display
[12:03] <iceman> ActionParsnip: I'm currently operating my computer without a xorg.conf file... I moved it then rebooted my laptop.
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> then ive no idea
[12:04] <iceman> ActionParsnip: Xorg 7.2 doesn't need an xorg.conf file
[12:04] <iceman> ActionParsnip: for most configs, anyway
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> are you using intrepid?
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> or are you using hardy?
[12:05] <iceman> ActionParsnip: nope, hardy
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> good
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> well ive always and probably always will have an xorg.conf
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> similarly i configure my network in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:05] <iceman> ActionParsnip: ow, don't be so pessimistic
[12:06] <iceman> someday you'll just plug your screen in, and everything will just autoconfigure, the way it's supposed to be
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> iceman: i dont like auto anything
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> i want control
[12:06] <scuser> ikonia: I changed it to passwd ldap only without files and it is still logging, does this mean that it switched to the files ?
[12:07] <osfameron> I just want it all to magically work
[12:07] <dns53> auto is great when it works perfectly the first time
[12:07]  * osfameron hates the xorg.conf and edits it only under duress, and only because the control panels ubuntu provide (as at GG) are completely worthless
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> i hate it, i push in a cd and i have to disable a tonne of stuff jumping in my face offering me stuff
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> massively annoying
[12:08] <iceman> computers are tools, you shouldn't have to tweak it and work on it. You should work WITH it.
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> i do work with it. i want it to work hen i want, not it trying to second guess me and get it wrong
[12:08] <iceman> and for me, that means the more things work automagically, the glader I am
[12:11] <nakata> hi
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> hi nakata
[12:12] <Jack[-_-]asS> hello i got ubuntu 7.10 installed on my comp but i also got xp with it...how can i remove ubuntu 7.10 complete without harming xp
[12:12] <Jack[-_-]asS> ??
[12:13] <havocstorm> hey guys
[12:13] <havocstorm> has anyone checked out the 8.01 betas?
[12:13] <dns53> Jack[-_-]asS you need to remove the boot loader entry using the windows recovery console and then delete the partition
[12:13] <jrib> Jack[-_-]asS: run 'fixmbr' from your windows install disk and format the ubuntu partition
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> Jack[-_-]asS: you will need to use the xp cd to reinstall the bootloader, then simply head into xp and reformat your linux partition to ntfs / fat32 so it can be used as storage space for windows
[12:13] <jrib> havocstorm: there's no such thing.  But if you want to discuss intrepid, please use #ubuntu+1
[12:14] <havocstorm> jrib, thanks
[12:15] <Jack[-_-]asS> so i need to boot with win xp disc and delete-format that partiotion that linux using
[12:15] <Jack[-_-]asS> than what?
[12:16] <jrib> Jack[-_-]asS: and fix the mbr, that's it
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> Jack[-_-]asS: no, when the boot has come to ask for first input, press f6
[12:16] <dns53> Jack[-_-]asS i believe there is a recovery console option on the cd, and you run fixmbr to wipe the boot menu, after that you can remove any partitions linux related
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> Jack[-_-]asS: you will drop to recovery console and you can fixmbr
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> Jack[-_-]asS: i'd ask in ##windows as this is not a ubuntu support question
[12:17] <Jack[-_-]asS> ok thanks anyway
[12:17] <Jack[-_-]asS> i try that
[12:17] <Oprtz> ikonia:  i am now able to see my windows machine from ubuntu, but cant access its share folders ?
[12:18] <Jack[-_-]asS> i dont want to delete my files from xp i got a very important things on it
[12:18] <Jack[-_-]asS> thanks
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> Oprtz: are you challenged for a username and password?
[12:18] <thomaspivot> i have a program running as a daemon...inside the program i have code which makes system() call to change password for a user...its like system(echo password | passwd user --stdin) ...but the issue is that since it is running as daemon it doesnt have access to stdin, stdout, stderror ... is there any workaround such that i can achieve the functionality that i am trying for?
[12:18] <Oprtz> ActionParsnip:  NO
[12:19] <Chousuke> thomaspivot: that's... not very secure.
[12:19] <MrKennie> Jack[-_-]asS: before you start playing with your filesystems, I stringly suggest you backup if you have important files.
[12:19] <bimberi> MrKennie: +1
[12:19] <Oprtz> it shows a waiting icons and then nothing shown
[12:19] <NET||abuse> aww, pidgin doesn't know lastlog :(
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> Oprtz: id check the sharing permissions on the windows side are ok, you should be getting asked for username and passwords
[12:20] <NET||abuse> quentusrex: did you figure out the ssh key thing? sorry went away for a while
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> MrKennie: if the data is important you should have a backup anyway
[12:20] <MrKennie> ActionParsnip: of course
[12:20] <Oprtz> can i send u the image on imageshake ?
[12:20] <Chousuke> thomaspivot: you're going to have to figure out another way to change the user's password from code. system() is not it
[12:20] <Chousuke> thomaspivot: but, a more important question: why the hell are you changing a user's password from a daemon?
[12:21] <aunvoh> anyone have experience getting Virtual box audio to work?
[12:21] <thomaspivot> @Chousuke ... is there any other non interactive way of doing it ...i just need to reset to a predetermined value
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> aunvoh: have you installed the extras?
[12:21] <jrib> aunvoh: make it use pulseaudio
[12:21] <Chousuke> thomaspivot: look at how passwd does it.
[12:22] <jrib> !pm | aunvoh
[12:22] <Chousuke> the code is open, so just get it and use it as an example.
[12:22] <thomaspivot> Chousuke: passwd needs a confirmation ...which is what i am trying to simulat ethrough echo and pipe
[12:22] <ikonia> thomaspivot: I suggest you take this to a programming channel
[12:23] <Chousuke> thomaspivot: the confirmation is just something passwd does; what you're interested in is the part of passwd that changes the password
[12:23] <thomaspivot> ok ..where can i get the code for passws
[12:23] <ikonia> thomaspivot: it's in core-utils
[12:23] <ljsoftnet> what's a good theme for gnome, that can shrink buttons, menus, and windows?
[12:23] <Chousuke> thomaspivot: and don't store the password in plaintext in your code
[12:23] <Chousuke> thomaspivot: store the hash that you're going to be putting in the passwd file
[12:24] <thomaspivot> ok ...got that
[12:24] <Chousuke> or shadow, I guess :/
[12:25] <makkro> ActionParsnip, now the menu.lst with xen works,, had to install xen-hypervisor
[12:25] <thomaspivot> Chouske :ok i will go the programming route ...trying to find sourcode for passwd
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> makkro: no idea, I dont even know what xen is
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> makkro: congrats on the xen booting :D
[12:25] <ikonia> ActionParsnip software hypervisor
[12:25] <makkro> ActionParsnip, virtualizing
[12:26]  * ActionParsnip is still none the wiser
[12:26] <makkro> ActionParsnip, & thanx :)
[12:27] <jak-o> hi to all
[12:27] <jak-o> where can i find gnome.desktop??
[12:27] <jak-o> in my archlinux it is in /etc/X11/sessions
[12:27] <jak-o> but i can't find it ubuntu
[12:28] <jrib> jak-o: try 'locate gnome.desktop'
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> jak-o: sudo find / -name *.desktop | grep gnome
[12:28] <dns53> /usr/share/xsessions/
[12:29] <Guest12351> no matter what i boot ,xp another linux version ther is always showing up that fu... screen where i chose xp or linux 7.10
[12:29] <Guest12351> i am stuck
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> Guest12351: can you rephrase please
[12:29]  * ActionParsnip looks baffled
[12:30] <goldmetal> howto add a 2ndary dns ip into my box?
[12:30] <ikonia> goldmetal stick it in resolv.conf
[12:30] <Guest12351>  i am trying to boot any other cd xp or linux
[12:30] <Guest12351> i cant
[12:30] <ikonia> Guest12351: set you bios to boot from cd
[12:30] <goldmetal> ikonia, is it safe to manually edit resolv.conf?
[12:30] <ikonia> goldmetal yup
[12:31] <Guest12351> i try that i set my primary on cd , secondary on cd even third but nothing
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Guest12351: is your bios setup to boot the cd
[12:31] <Guest12351> yes
[12:31] <ikonia> Guest12351 then the D's are faulty
[12:31] <ikonia> CD
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Guest12351: do you have multiple cd trays?
[12:31] <ikonia> or the drive
[12:31] <jak-o> thank you all!
[12:31] <Guest12351> no
[12:31] <ikonia> either way - it's not an ubuntu issue
[12:32] <Guest12351> i got only one cd tray and i set all booting from cd but nothing
[12:32] <ikonia> Guest12351 the the cd/bios/drve is faulty
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Guest12351: do you have another bootable cd?
[12:32] <goldmetal> ikonia, do i need to restart some sort of service, so my system is aware of my changes in etc/resolve ?
[12:33] <ikonia> goldmetal nope, should be dynamic
[12:33] <Guest12351> well i got xp service pack 1  , service pack 2, i try even protech
[12:33] <goldmetal> ikonia, hm... looks like it's working
[12:33] <Guest12351> nothing
[12:33] <ikonia> Guest12351 then it's a hardware fault
[12:33] <nhorning> hello?
[12:33] <ikonia> nhorning hi
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Guest12351: looks like the drive then. id check internal connections and bios settings
[12:33] <Guest12351> any sugestions
[12:33] <nhorning> good, it's working
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> Guest12351: and is out of the scope of this room
[12:34] <nhorning> need help with my network mangager in ibex
[12:34] <nhorning> is this the right place?
[12:34] <ikonia> nhorning join #ubuntu+1 for 8.10 support
[12:34] <nhorning> k
[12:34] <quangcuong_manch> hi
[12:34] <ikonia> quangcuong_manch hello
[12:34] <Guest12351> ActionParsnip where i need to go to get that help?
[12:34] <callan_> hello
[12:34] <Guest12351> is there any room
[12:34] <quangcuong_manch> hi
[12:34] <quangcuong_manch> hi
[12:34] <quangcuong_manch> hi
[12:34] <FloodBot1> quangcuong_manch: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:35] <Pici> Guest12351: ##hardware
[12:35] <quangcuong_manch> ke tao
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Guest12351: some hardware room.
[12:35] <icesword> funny
[12:35] <quangcuong_manch> fuck
[12:35] <DJones> !ops | quangcuong_manch
[12:35] <callan_> who is quangcuong_manch?
[12:35] <callan_> man?
[12:35] <icesword> quangcuong_manch, ...
[12:36] <apolo> #ubunut.fr
[12:36] <callan_> hello!iceword
[12:36] <callan_> Can I know you?
[12:36] <ikonia> callan_ this is a support channel, not a chat channel, type "/topic" for more information
[12:36] <icesword> callan_, yes? excuse me?
[12:38] <bimberi> ikonia: you need to be added to the !ops list
[12:38] <ikonia> bimberi: I'm aware thanks
[12:39] <icesword> haha
[12:43] <cwe19_89> iii
[12:43] <linny> anyone here use a miezu media player with ubuntu ?
[12:49] <FD_F> i cant hear sound lspci output : b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[12:49] <FD_F>  ,thanks for helping
[12:52] <callan_> mylogic ?Who?
[12:53] <mylogic> ?
[12:54] <callan_> boy ?
[12:54] <ikonia> callan_: how do you know quangcuong_manch he was kicked before you joined
[13:01] <msshams> when i try to do this command: http://paste.ubuntu.com/55249/ i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/55250/ can you help me please?
[13:01] <FD_F> i ant hear sound alsamixer ok lspci output :  Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01) ,thanks for help
[13:01] <FD_F>  
[13:02] <jrib> msshams: why are you running that?
[13:02] <ikonia> msshams: I can tell that -O3 with lavac is not good
[13:02] <dns53> msshams those are warnings, contact the developers if you are concerned
[13:04] <ATA_Dark_Shadow> greetings, if /etc/init.d/saslauthd would allways starts to try sasldb rather then pam as mechanism, where do i need to look other then /etc/default/saslauthd?
[13:04] <msshams> jrib: i want to compile flv2mpeg4
[13:05] <msshams> ikonia: but without the -O3 i get same error
[13:05] <ikonia> msshams they are just warnings
[13:05] <ikonia> msshams: it sounds like you don't really understand what your doing
[13:06] <ikonia> msshams: I'd suggest you use the versions in the ubuntu repo's unless you have a specific reason not to
[13:06] <msshams> ikonia: but after this warning, command finished. and it can't compile
[13:06] <ikonia> msshams: so you need the errors not the warnings
[13:07] <ikonia> msshams: I strongly advise you not to continue though
[13:08] <david> Hi everyone can you read me?
[13:08] <Pici> david: loud and clear
[13:09] <Guest71511> Thanks.... I have a serious problem and need help please???
[13:09] <Guest71511> Last night I was cleaning up my disk space and obviously deleted something I shouldn't have done
[13:09] <Pici> Guest71511: Just ask.
[13:09] <krish_> how to install java in ubuntu?
[13:09] <Guest71511> This morning I started the computer and I have lost all my toolbars
[13:10] <acp> !libxdamage
[13:10] <Guest71511> I managed to connenct here in a panic as I had a file on the desktop otherwise I dont know what I would have done.
[13:10] <LjL> !info libxdamage1 | acp
[13:10] <Guest71511> If I click on to lower this page into the background it disappears instead of staying below on the tool bar
[13:10] <Pici> !java > krish_
[13:10] <Guest71511> is it libx that controls all this??
[13:11] <krish_> thanks ubuttu
[13:11] <LjL> !resetpanel | Guest71511
[13:11] <dns53> krish_ there are many versions, perhaps you want openjdk-6-jre
[13:11] <krish_> did nt get u dns
[13:11] <prem> i have written a c program i a text editor and saved it in a file , now how do i compile and run it in gcc compiler
[13:12] <LjL> prem: gcc -o executable-name file.c
[13:12] <Guest71511> LjL How can I resetpanel??? I can right click on panel but it doesn't give me this otpion
[13:12] <ikonia> prem: there are guides on building software on tldp.org
[13:12] <Guest71511> Remember I have nothing on my screen.
[13:12] <trilobit`> prem: or:  gcc -Wall executable-name file.c     to see all messages including the warnings
[13:12] <prem> what is "executable-name"
[13:12] <LjL> Guest71511: hit alt+f2 then type "xterm" to start a terminal
[13:12] <ikonia> prem: there are guides on building software on tldp.org
[13:13] <LjL> prem: the name you want to give to your executable
[13:13] <th0r> can someone point me to a good how to for getting an Acer broadcom wifi card working in ubuntu?
[13:13] <prem> thank
[13:13] <prem> thank u
[13:13] <ikonia> !broadcom
[13:13] <th0r> thanks
[13:13] <trilobit`> prem: correction: gcc -Wall -o executable-name file.c
[13:14] <Guest71511> LjL noyhinh happens???
[13:15] <Guest71511> LjL nothing happens
[13:15] <voland> Good day to you all. Could anybode help me with s3 Trio 64V+ videocard?
[13:15] <LjL> Guest71511: well, it was worth a try. i'm not even entirely sure i've understood what the situation is - you say you've got nothing on screen, yet you said you could right click on the panel (so you have a panel?)
[13:15] <Guest71511> LjL if I could get access into the terminal I could do as ubottu tells me, but???? Any idea?
[13:16] <LjL> Guest71511: hit ctrl+alt+f1 to go to a textmode terminal, type it in there, then ctrl+alt+f7 to go back to X
[13:18] <mib_b4blih> When I connect to an IP as: ssh <
[13:18] <slavik> is there a tomboy like applet that has alarm clock functionality???
[13:18] <mib_b4blih> When I connect to an IP as: ssh <IP> how do I know if that is connecting to an internal network address or an IP in the internet?
[13:19] <mari_ntutu> ﻿I have to create a system with around 100-150 users, I have changed the gnome desktop, icons, background, etc, ﻿I want all the users to have the same gnome-nautilus configuration, ﻿how can i create users with the same config? ﻿I have tried to copy gnome and nautilus folders  (.gcong, .nautilus, etc) to the new user home folder, ﻿its works ok but some application still think the new user is the one i copy the folders 
[13:19] <LjL> mib_b4blih: you don't, you need to know what your internal network's IPs look like
[13:19] <trilobit`> mib_b4blih: you provide the ip address where you connect. You don't know where that ip is ?
[13:19] <slavik> mari_ntutu: /etc/skel
[13:19] <ikonia> mib_b4blih: you set it up - you should know if that ip is internal or external
[13:20] <jrib> mari_ntutu: read library.gnome.org admin guide
[13:20] <fffff> a
[13:20] <fffff> fffppp
[13:20] <mari_ntutu> slavik: i know skel, but its gonna be the same results
[13:20] <mib_b4blih> But isnt there a possibility that there is an external IP that I'd like to connect to that has the same IP as an internal one?
[13:20] <LjL> fffff: use #test if you want to try out IRC, please don't spam this channel
[13:20] <colchonero> sadfsfsf
[13:20] <colchonero> hrhrhrhr
[13:20] <colchonero> jejeje
[13:20] <slavik> mari_ntutu: ??? copy the files to skel, or modify the adduser script or create your own user creation script
[13:20] <ikonia> mib_b4blih no
[13:20] <colchonero> marikona!!
[13:21] <^_ecO_^> Hi all!!!=))
[13:21] <FreshPrince> hi @ all
[13:21] <slavik> mari_ntutu: you're an admin, you should be able to write such scripts :)
[13:21] <FreshPrince> hi ^_ecO_^ =P
[13:21] <LjL> mib_b4blih: unless your network is configured in an insane way, no (ikonia, i assure you that a network can be ;)
[13:21] <savage-> anyone installed prelink on ubuntu before?
[13:21] <mib_b4blih> ikonia: But I thought IP addresses behing a proxy were different/unrelated to the ones outside it
[13:21] <Murder>  FreshPrince Whence you?
[13:21] <ikonia> mib_b4blih: your not making any sense
[13:21] <LjL> fffff: do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[13:21] <^_ecO_^> I'm from Russia! Hello Freak's
[13:21] <esi2> hello mamaracho
[13:21]  * ^_ecO_^ :)
[13:21] <^_ecO_^> haha
[13:21] <ikonia> mib_b4blih: I usggest you read up on networking
[13:21] <mari_ntutu> ok, thanks everyone
[13:21] <FreshPrince> Murder, what?
[13:22] <ikonia> !ru | ^_ecO_^
[13:22] <LjL> ^_ecO_^: i don't like being called a freak
[13:22] <FreshPrince> !ch
[13:22] <Murder>  FreshPrince From what you strange?
[13:22] <FreshPrince> Murder, i dont understand what u mean :(
[13:22] <esi2> who paint in ubuntu?
[13:22] <^_ecO_^>  LjL sorry, I don' t understand you=(
[13:22] <esi2> i dont speak english
[13:22] <mari_ntutu> slavik: i know that, but i dont mean just copy, i need to reconfigure for example the gconf
[13:22] <mari_ntutu> anywqay thanks
[13:22] <LjL> fffff: then please don't speak unless you have a support question, or want to answer a question, because this channel is pretty busy as it is. try #ubuntu-offtopic if you just want to chat
[13:22] <ikonia> esi2: what language do you speak
[13:22] <Sexy_guy> ñóêààààààààà
[13:22] <Sexy_guy> âîò ìóäàê
[13:22] <FloodBot1> Sexy_guy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:22] <FloodBot2> Sexy_guy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:23] <^_ecO_^> õàõà
[13:23] <fffff> ok,ok
[13:23] <^_ecO_^> DDDDD
[13:23] <Sexy_guy> íåïîíèìàåò ìíó
[13:23] <Guest71511> LjL entered terminal and did what ubottu told me but it didn't exist? If I minimize this panel it goes completely off screen. How can I recuperate it?
[13:23] <jrib> mari_ntutu: the guide I told you about addresses your situation
[13:23] <esi2> i speak spanish
[13:23] <mib_b4blih> ikonia: so I use the ssh <IP> when I want to connect to a host on the same side and use the same form when I want to connect to a host on the other side
[13:23] <slavik> mari_ntutu: scripts :)
[13:23] <LjL> !ru
[13:23] <mari_ntutu> jrif: yep, i ll av a look in that, thanks
[13:23] <fffff> good by
[13:23] <remoteCTR1> my unlock button in network-manager is greyed out, how can i fix that?
[13:23] <^_ecO_^> à ÿ ÷óâàêà íå ïîíèìàþ
[13:23] <^_ecO_^> ñóêà
[13:23] <fffff> good bye
[13:23] <^_ecO_^> îíè ôëóäÿò æ¸ññêà
[13:23] <Sexy_guy> âîò äðîçäèíà
[13:23] <^_ecO_^> îëåíè
[13:23] <FloodBot2> ^_ecO_^: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:23] <ikonia> 'qk ^_ecO_^
[13:23] <slavik> ^_ecO_^: УТФ8!!!
[13:23] <esi2> i speak spanish
[13:23] <ikonia> !es > esi2
[13:23] <blueeagle> !es > esi2
[13:23] <LjL> esi2: puedes entrar en #ubuntu-es para español si quieres
[13:23] <remoteCTR1> gawd are the kiddies loose or what?
[13:23] <mari_ntutu> jrib: okok
[13:23] <blueeagle> remoteCTR1: They are.
[13:24] <remoteCTR1> tsss
[13:24] <mari_ntutu> jrib: but i dont want sabayon!!
[13:24] <jrib> mari_ntutu: but the guide offers more!
[13:25] <rakib> hi I want to execute some commands just when booting the pc. the commands need root permission to be executed. so i have written the commands to /etc/rc.local. the commands are http://paste.ubuntu.com/55262/ but the commands don't seem to work. can any one suggest me what should to do ?
[13:25] <mib_b4blih> ikonia:  Irrespective of whether the host resides inside/outside the same network as mine I'd always use "ssh <IP>"?
[13:25] <mari_ntutu> jrib: as far i can see nop, Just tell "Associating users with a particular profile" within sabayon
[13:25] <ikonia> mib_b4blih: yup
[13:25] <Guest71511> LjL Can I send u a private message, if you have time??
[13:25] <mari_ntutu> jrib: i read that around 147 times :)
[13:25] <LjL> Guest71511, much better to ask in the channel, i'm not even a GNOME user myself
[13:26] <remoteCTR1> i get an error when invoking network-admin: (network-admin:10517): Gtk-WARNING **: Unknown property: GtkComboBox.items and ** (network-admin:10517): CRITICAL **: Unable to lookup session information for process '10517' what is wrong there please? i cant unlock
[13:26] <Guest71511> LjL Thks
[13:26] <jrib> mari_ntutu: what are you reading exactly?
[13:26] <mib_b4blih> ikonia: What I asked earlier was: How can the program tell between two hosts having the same IP but residing on different sides of the network?
[13:26] <rakib> can any one suggest me !!!!!!!!
[13:26] <LjL> mib_b4blih: it can't
[13:26] <ikonia> rakib why make aliases, just invoke the stop / start commands
[13:26] <ikonia> mib_b4blih they don't
[13:26] <Guest71511> When I minimize the tool bars in Gnome they disappear off the screen so I don't have any panels?' Any ideas how to recuperate them please?
[13:26] <mari_ntutu> jrib: "Desktop Administrators' Guide to GNOME Lockdown and Preconfiguration" from d begining till d end
[13:26] <LjL> mib_b4blih: that's why hosts in an internal network should NOT have IPs that are assigned to public use
[13:26] <remoteCTR1> rakibi suggest you ast a question
[13:27] <Dirac> tau ate aqui?
[13:27] <LjL> mib_b4blih: examples of IPs assigned to *private* uses are 10.x.x.x and 192.168.x.x (iirc)
[13:27] <ikonia> mib_b4blih: I suggest you purchase a book on basic networking to get an overview
[13:27] <LjL> !br | dirac
[13:27] <rakib> ikonia: will that do ?
[13:27] <ikonia> rakib: yup
[13:27] <ikonia> rakib: don't need aliases
[13:27] <rakib> ikonia: it is the only problem for not executing ?
[13:27] <paul68> I if you work with 4 different workspaces, is there a way to modify the homepage from your browser for each workspace?
[13:27] <mib_b4blih> LjL: Oh. I didnt know these things were standardised. We have it like that here.
[13:27] <ikonia> rakib ?
[13:28] <mib_b4blih> ikonia: Can you suggest a book?
[13:28] <LjL> mib_b4blih, of course the IP addressing space is standardized, if it weren't you wouldn't have an internet
[13:28] <ikonia> mib_b4blih tons on amazon, o'reilly is always a good publisher
[13:28] <paul68> so you have for workspace 1 as browsers homepage google
[13:28] <mib_b4blih> LjL: Evidently, I'm a newbie :D
[13:28] <paul68> for the second for example ubuntu
[13:28] <blueeagle> paul68: As far as I know no webbrowser are aware or care which workspace they are opened on. Nor should they imo.
[13:29] <jrib> mari_ntutu: well it also mentions gconf and pessulus before sabayon even.  And tells you that you should see the GNOME Desktop System Administration Guide for more in depth information on gconf.  And that guide tells you how to set default values for gconf system-wide
[13:29] <mib_b4blih> ikonia: I search for books on TCP/IP?
[13:29] <rakib> ikonia: my commands don't seem to work as expected. is it due to the aliases ? if i remove the aliases then they would surely execute ?
[13:29] <ikonia> mib_b4blih: just "networking"
[13:29] <mib_b4blih> ikonia: or on general networking
[13:29] <paul68> blueeagle: ok thanks
[13:29] <ikonia> rakib thats right
[13:29] <mib_b4blih> ikonia: Thanks
[13:29] <rakib> ikonia: thanks
[13:29] <mib_b4blih> LjL: Thanks for your time!
[13:29] <Guest71511> Last night I deleted some files and this morning when I started my computer I have no tool bars. Any ideas how I can bring them back to the panel again plese?
[13:30] <ikonia> Guest71511: you asked that about 2 minutes ago
[13:30] <ikonia> Guest71511: people have been going through options with you
[13:30] <kibibyte> im lokking how to make urlencode in bash
[13:30] <LjL> Guest71511: you have no *toolbars*, or you have no *panels*? those aren't the same thing
[13:30] <Guest71511> ikonia - u are right, but nothing has helped so far
[13:30] <ikonia> Guest71511 so how is asking again going to make it wotrk
[13:30] <mib_b4blih> One more thing. The passphrase for a private key in SSH protects what and from whom?
[13:31] <LjL> Guest71511, it helps us if you give us feedback on the advice we give. for instance, i don't know what happened when you tried the ctrl+alt+f1 thing and reset the panel from there.
[13:31] <ikonia> mib_b4blih read up on networking
[13:31] <Guest71511> Apologies I am confusing everyone. I have no tool bars at the top or at the bottom so can't access anything. It's a sif they are out of the screen area.
[13:31] <ikonia> mib_b4blih: your running before walking
[13:31] <LjL> mib_b4blih: it protects you from people who somehow gain physical access to your computer (or access to your files, anyway) from getting your private key with ease
[13:31] <blueeagle> Guest71511: Did you press CTRL+ALT+{KeyPad+}
[13:31] <Guest71511> LjL I thought I replied. I tried this but nothing happened
[13:32] <Guest71511> blueeagle : I will try thks.
[13:32] <LjL> Guest71511: you said nothing happened when you had tried the alt+f2 then "xterm" thing
[13:32] <jim_p> has firefox 3.03 reached the repos
[13:32] <Guest71511> blueeagle which is the KeyPad* key??
[13:32] <jim_p> ???
[13:32] <mib_b4blih> ikonia: Isn't Networking a big undertaking for learning something like SSH? I just want to be able to SSH..
[13:32] <Guest71511> LjL I will try again
[13:32] <ikonia> mib_b4blih you can ssh
[13:32] <ikonia> mib_b4blih so no problem
[13:32] <LjL> mib_b4blih: if you want to be able to ssh, just type "ssh <IP>" as we've been saying all along
[13:32] <blueeagle> Guest71511: That is the big "+" key on the rigth of the keyboard (ie the keypad)
[13:33] <blueeagle> Guest71511: Above the key labled "enter" all the way to the right unless ofcourse you're on a laptop.
[13:33] <mib_b4blih> ikonia: Of course I can. I was just asking if it wasnt necessary to learn Networking first, as you had suggested
[13:33] <ikonia> mib_b4blih not to use ssh, but to understand your questions - yes
[13:33] <Guest71511> LjL It tells me it cant display
[13:33] <LjL> mib_b4blih: no, but it's necessary if you want to satisfactorily answer the questions you asked about internal and public IPs
[13:34] <Guest71511> blueeagle will try
[13:34] <mib_b4blih> LjL: ok..
[13:34] <smm289> windows has a device manager to tell you what drivers and hardware components are installed, Does Hardy have something similiar
[13:34] <Ven]n> i have a bootable usb stick with the ubuntu 8.04 image on it.. how do i install ubuntu to that same usb stick? its 4 GB
[13:34] <blueeagle> smm289: lspci and lsusb usually do the trick.
[13:34] <erUSUL> smm289: "sudo lshw"
[13:34] <LjL> smm289: yes, there is the "lshw" command that does that, and there is also a graphical interface that uses it in GNOME, although i don't remember where it is (don't use GNOME)
[13:34] <qweqweqwe> fuck
[13:35] <mib_b4blih> The passphrase protects my private key from people who have access to my computer?
[13:35] <Guest71511> blueeagle it did nothing
[13:35] <LjL> mib_b4blih: yes, as well as people who somehow gain access to your files in /home, as i said
[13:35] <blueeagle> Ven]n: I do not recomend you do that. USB sticks have got limited lifetimes and they "wear out" as you write to them.
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[13:35] <blueeagle> Guest71511: Ok. Was worth a shot.
[13:35] <Guest71511> blueeagle it seems all my tool bars are off the screen for some reason? I can't recuperate them
[13:36] <blueeagle> Guest71511: and by "toolbars" you mean "panels". Please use the right name for them. ;)
[13:36] <Ven]n> bluedusk, the alternative is my SSD :)
[13:36] <Guest71511> blueeagle thks I appreciate your help
[13:36] <Guest71511> LjL Appreciate your kind help too
[13:36] <Ven]n> bluedusk, its a netbook
[13:36] <mib_b4blih> LjL: But I can easily cat id_rsa and read the contents!
[13:36] <ikonia> mib_b4blih: join #ssh or buy the orielly ssh book
[13:36] <Ven]n> blueeagle, *
[13:36] <ikonia> mib_b4blih: your asking general help, which is nothing to do with ubuntu
[13:36] <blueeagle> Ven]n: However if you want to do this you need to make the usb stick bootable and extract the files from the ISO-image to a partition and boot from that usb stick and then you can install it.
[13:36] <LjL> mib_b4blih: noticed how it says "Proc-Type: 4,ENCRYPTED" at the start of that file?
[13:37] <mib_b4blih> ikonia: Im using cgi:irc. Have problems with logging into that channel using a proxy connection.
[13:37] <Ven]n> blueeagle, thats already done.. but youre saying i can just select the usb key in the installation?
[13:37] <blueeagle> Ven]n: You may need the alternate install iso to do this tho.
[13:37] <Ven]n> uhh
[13:37] <ikonia> mib_b4blih sorry, that doesn't make ubuntu an gernal chat channel, the o'reilly book on ssh is VERY good
[13:37] <mosta213> salut
[13:37] <LjL> !fr | mosta213
[13:37] <ikonia> mib_b4blih: I use it on a regular basis
[13:37] <blueeagle> Ven]n: Well it would probably be /dev/sd0 unless you've got scsi or sata drives installed. In which case you'd need to identify the stick.
[13:38] <mib_b4blih> LjL: Oh!! I'm really asking dumb questions. Sorry!
[13:38] <mosta213> hello
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> Ven]n: sudo fdisk -l will show it
[13:38] <mib_b4blih> ikonia: Will check it out!
[13:38] <sysdef> mib_b4blih: if you loose your private key you have enough time to disable it and generate a new one while the bad guys brutforcing your key
[13:38] <Ven]n> blueeagle, ive used unetbootin to create the bootable usb with ubuntu
[13:39] <Guest71511> blueagle I did all you advised correctly. Perhaps you can correct me on terminology. At the top and bottom of the screen there are lots of icons. Is this called the toolar or panels?
[13:39] <Ven]n> im just wondering if i can install from like E:/extracted_image to E:/
[13:39] <Ven]n> so i can make changes to the image and not use the "use ubuntu live without adding changes to your computer"
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> Ven]n: linux doesnt use drive letters, just mount points and devics
[13:39] <Ven]n> ActionParsnip, i know that. it was an example
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> Ven]n: thats cool, i take nothing as taken in here
[13:40] <Ven]n> :)
[13:40] <wers> how do i change my computer's name? :D
[13:40] <Ward1983> how do i get rid of network-manager and the applet?
[13:40] <Pici> !hostname | wers
[13:40] <nsprams> Hi folks, when mounting a window share.. i am not able to access.. and the system hangs..  can anyone help ?
[13:40] <LjL> Ward1983: you should be able to just uninstall network-manager, last time i checked it wasn't a hard dependency of anything
[13:40]  * ActionParsnip makes mental note of hostname trigger
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> nsprams: how are you mounting it?
[13:41] <Ward1983> LjL, great :) will try
[13:41] <nsprams> ActionParsnip: using smbmount
[13:41] <smm289> gnome-Device Manager, is a nice GUI device manager, the name is accurate ;)
[13:41] <wers> thanks, pici!
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> nsprams: ok with fstab or commandline?
[13:41] <nsprams> ActionParsnip: using command line..
[13:41] <smm289> can Hardy connect with 802.11N?
[13:41] <Guest71511> LjL and blueeagle Thks for your help this morning. Can either of you suggest where I can go from here????
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> nsprams: can you ping the system?
[13:42] <nsprams> yes
[13:42] <nsprams> it mounts ... but when i try to access.. it goes like a loop
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> nsprams: is their a fireall on the windows pc?
[13:42] <jim_p> new opera 9.60 today!!
[13:42] <nsprams>  ls /mnt/windows-shares/NY2/NY2/NY2/
[13:42] <nsprams> ls: reading directory /mnt/windows-shares/NY2/NY2/NY2/: Object is remote
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> nsprams: and if so is it allowing the correct access
[13:42] <smm289> does Hardy have support for 802.11n?
[13:42] <blueeagle> nsprams: You're doing smbmount on a share that is running on another system?
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> smm289: id imagine so
[13:43] <LjL> Guest71511: given the little i know of the situation, i'd suggest creating a new user for yourself (and then moving over your personal files), as it looks to me like you have deleted configuration files
[13:43] <nsprams> blueeagle: yes
[13:43] <blueeagle> nsprams: Is this other system running windows or samba?
[13:43] <nsprams> blueeagle: windows
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> Guest71511: you could rename all the gnome config folders and reboot
[13:43] <Guest71511> LjL Perhaps a good idea. How can I do that?
[13:43] <blueeagle> nsprams: Do you have a user account on the windows server?
[13:43] <smm289> Action: its just that I have an intel 802.11n card in my laptop, but its only connecting at a G rate.  I used to connect with N fine under windows
[13:43] <nsprams> ActionParsnip: how do i check if it has any thing wrong..
[13:43] <Guest71511> ActionParsnip Thks how can I do that
[13:44] <nsprams> blueeagle: yes, i can connect from windows... but i am trying to use ubuntu for all my office needs now... stuck with this
[13:44] <LjL> Guest71511: well, you can do it from the GNOME settings, but since you probably can't access them, you can "sudo adduser newusername". then you also need to add it to some important groups, such as "admin" (the one that lets you use sudo), that's done with "sudo adduser username groupname". type "groups" as your user to see what groups it currently belongs to, and replicate those
[13:44] <Guest71511> LLjL Can I not reload the deleted files?
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> Guest71511: http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/ but use mv instead of rm
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> nsprams: can you give me your mountng command please
[13:45] <Guest71511> LjL I am sure if I do this i will get lost in the process.
[13:45] <blueeagle> nsprams: Have you run (as root): smbpasswd -add <username> <password>
[13:45] <nsprams> ActionParsnip: blueeagle : will paste the command.. one sec
[13:45] <jim_p> smm289: is there a kde equivalent for gnome-device manager?
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> blueeagle: isnt that to be ran on a samba server, not one connecting to a file sharing windows box???
[13:46] <Guest71511> ActionParsnip. This sounds a great idea. Sorry being a newbie what do you mean by use mv instead of rm???
[13:46] <blueeagle> ActionParsnip: You may be right. I haven't done this for years. :)
[13:46] <nsprams> sudo smbmount //ip-soft.net/shares/ /mnt/windows-shares/ -o username=psadhees
[13:46] <LjL> Guest71511: seems pretty straightforward to me. "adduser" adds the user. "groups" show you what groups you belong to. "adduser <user> <group>" adds a user to a group.
[13:46] <jim_p> smm289: and where is it? i installed it and i lost it :P
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> Guest71511: do the action on the folders it specifies individually but use mv to rename, delete only once you have a sound config
[13:46] <nsprams> blueeagle: ActionParsnip: the command is "sudo smbmount //ip-soft.net/shares/ /mnt/windows-shares/ -o username=psadhees"
[13:46] <Guest71511> LjL Thks. Appreciate what you say
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> Guest71511: try to keep deleteing broken configs to a minimal so you can roll back
[13:47] <smm289> Jim_P: I beleive I saw a KDE version of device manager, I found the Gnome version in the Add/Remove... system tools
[13:48] <smm289> Jim_P: It should be located under applications/System Tools
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> nsprams: is it shared over wan?
[13:48] <Guest71511> ActionParsnip. I am going to try what you say. do I just click on the web llink or type this in the terminal?
[13:48] <jim_p> smm289: thanks a lot. i was looking for it in control panel
[13:48] <blueeagle> nsprams: try: mount -t smbfs -o username=psadhees,workgroup=yourworkgroup,guest //ip-soft.net/shares /mnt/windows/shares
[13:48] <nsprams> ActionParsnip: its our office share..
[13:48] <nsprams> blueeagle: trying now
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> Guest71511: you need to go to the site, if you read the folder list it specifies to rm, you need to rename them using mv (E.g. mv .gconf gconf_old)
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> Guest71511: as an example
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> Guest71511: just give them different names to what they have
[13:50] <blueeagle> ouchh.. "office share"... That sounds ehh... dangerous.
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> nsprams: id check the hostname you are connecting to. the .net means the system has to hit that domain first, which is on the www
[13:50] <Ward1983_> how can i update without installing newer kernels on ubuntu 7.10? i had to use 7.10 because i needed a older kernel
[13:50] <nsprams> ActionParsnip: ok
[13:51] <nsprams> blueeagle: it is a lill dangerous! :p
[13:51] <confused> hi people!
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> nsprams: the host name is not ip-soft.net
[13:52] <confused> i've a trouble with grub
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> nsprams: that is on the internet
[13:52] <nsprams> ActionParsnip: hmm.. yah.. thinking about how i can find the host..
[13:52] <confused> anyone may help me?
[13:52] <blueeagle> nsprams: I'd recomend mentioning to your boss that a document management system does cost less than what may happen with documents on a shared drive.
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> nsprams: it'll be some short name
[13:52] <Pici> !ask | confused
[13:52] <Abs0looteBeginne> ﻿hi. i need help at understanding two ssh parameters in ~.ssh/config file: there is "Host" and "Hostname" - i read the man 5 ssh_config but for me its still not clear what is what. could someone pls explain me what parameter is mandatory and whats not ?  - my primary target is to pre-configure some port-forwardings that always gets active if the user connects to one of 4 possible hosts. for example those hostnames may be host1.dyndns
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> nsprams: go to the system, right click my computer -> properties -> computer name tab
[13:53] <ikonia> Abs0looteBeginne you may find better support in #openssh
[13:53] <LjL> !away > trilobit`-away    (trilobit`-away, see the private message from Ubotu)
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> nsprams: you want the leftmost word of the full computername
[13:53] <confused> ok
[13:53] <jrib> Abs0looteBeginne: Host is just your nickname for that connection.  Hostname is the hostname you are actually connecting to
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> nsprams: like mines sptuk05.rtix.local so my pc is called sptuk05
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> nsprams: thats what you need to change your mount command to
[13:54] <nsprams> ActionParsnip: we used to access it like \\IPsoft tools!\shares\NY2\docs\Operations\IPsoft\ClientLogin  from RUN on windows..
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> the system name has a space. dear lord
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> nsprams: then put quotes round it
[13:55] <nsprams> oh.. sorry.. that got replaced..
[13:55] <nsprams> its the domin name that needs to go there..
[13:55] <nsprams> ipsoft.net
[13:55] <nsprams> that is
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> no, just the computer name
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> that is holding the files
[13:56] <OsamaK> Mono problem: <http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5922732#post5922732>
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> nsprams: you can also run ipconfig /all in a cmd prompt and at the top will be the host name
[13:56] <nsprams> ActionParsnip: \\ipsoft.net\shares\NY2\docs\Operations\IPsoft\ClientLogin is how we access from windows..
[13:56] <smm289> is anyone here connected at 802.11N rates, I can't get past a G connection, and googles not being much help this moring
[13:56] <nsprams> but i do not have access to the system..
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> nsprams: thats because you are naming the whole domain, not a pc
[13:57] <nsprams> ActionParsnip: how do i figure out the host ?
[13:57] <blueeagle> nsprams: Don't tell me that the computer is named ipsoft.net?
[13:57] <nsprams> blueeagle: nah, its not!
[13:57] <ikonia> blueeagle tahts dns it will default to the domain record for the domain
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> nsprams: walk to the system and run ipconfig /all in a cmd prompt, at the top it will say hostname, thats what you need
[13:57] <blueeagle> ahh..
[13:57] <ikonia> blueeagle: there will be a hostname but it's not shown
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> nsprams: or if you know its IP you can use that
[13:58] <nsprams> ActionParsnip: thanks, i do not know the physical location of the box, let me check if someone here knows..
[13:58] <nsprams> :(
[13:59] <blueeagle> nsprams: Try sending it a ping and follow the sound. :p
[13:59] <dany_21a_> nsprams: what happens if you ping ipsoft.net?
[13:59] <blueeagle> dany_21a_: That would give him an ip address which he could use instead of the hostname, wouldn't it?
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> dany_21a_: thats the name of his domain, we need the computername holding the data
[14:00] <dany_21a_> bluedusk: jep
[14:00] <dany_21a_> blueeagle: sorry, ^
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> you could have mailserver.ipsoft.net and file01.ipsoft.net
[14:00] <blueeagle> dany_21a_: no worries. :)
[14:00] <linkinxp> hello i would like to make a little app to display my current mac address , i will like to have it in gnome panel, how i lookup my mac address string?
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> linkinxp: ifconfig
[14:00] <blueeagle> ActionParsnip: They use smb shares to share documents... do you think they've got several servers? o.O
[14:01] <linkinxp> ActionParsnip, i know that. but how i call it from a script?
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> blueeagle: we have thousands at my place of work
[14:01] <blueeagle> ActionParsnip: servers or smb shares?
[14:01] <linkinxp> ActionParsnip, only the HWaddr
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> linkinxp: just call it like you do in a shell, but in a bash script
[14:01] <jlilly> So I'm having some issues with my wireless. Specifically that the connection drops in and out. Any thoughts? (Running on a MBP)
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> linkinxp: you're gonna be sed and grepping to cut the flack out
[14:02] <jlilly> I'm using the ath_pci driver via madwifi
[14:02] <nsprams> dany_21a_: sorry i missed your question , it pings to IP 199.106.237.143
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> linkinxp: lemme see if its been done
[14:02] <linkinxp> ActionParsnip,  Grep and Sed? let me find out .
[14:02] <linkinxp> ActionParsnip, thanks!
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> nsprams: then use that instead of the hostname
[14:02] <nsprams> ok, trying now
[14:03] <Raku-chan> Ultra mixer load error
[14:04] <dany_21a_> nsprams: try to open smb://199.106.237.143 in konq or nautilus
[14:05] <blueeagle> Linuturk: ifconfig |grep HWaddr|grep eth0|awk {'print $5'}
[14:06] <blueeagle> Linuturk: That's probably awkabuse.
[14:06] <Linuturk> blueeagle, probably not talking to me :)
[14:06] <nsprams> dany_21a_: trying..
[14:06] <Raku-chan> hello my ukltramixer can't load the music i have
[14:06] <blueeagle> Linuturk: That would be correct. :p
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> blueeagle: looks decent
[14:06] <blueeagle> linkinxp: ifconfig |grep HWaddr|grep eth0|awk {'print $5'}
[14:06] <dr-lee> hi
[14:06] <linkinxp> bluedusk, wow let me try :S
[14:07] <blueeagle> linkinxp: ifconfig |grep eth0|awk {'print $5'}
[14:07] <linkinxp> awesome
[14:07] <blueeagle> grepping for hwaddr was redundant
[14:07] <linkinxp> ho ok
[14:07] <linkinxp> i can change it to wlan0
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> some people have leet bash skillz
[14:07] <dr-lee> i have searched some hours and cant find an answer....can you help me??
[14:07] <blueeagle> just replace eth0 with wlan0
[14:07] <jlilly> dr-lee: don't ask to ask. just state your question.
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> !ask | dr-lee
[14:07] <linkinxp> thanks i need to learn that
[14:07] <Pici> Raku-chan: What is ukltramixer?
[14:08] <dany_21a_> blueeagle: prefix it with LC_ALL=C
[14:08] <dr-lee> how can i install or check out if ahci is installed..i want to use ahci sata harddiscs
[14:08] <blueeagle> dany_21a_: Why?
[14:08] <dr-lee> on ubuntu 8
[14:08] <jlilly> linkinxp: if you're looking for some bash tricks, you might find some here: http://justinlilly.com/wp-content/uploads/bash_profile
[14:08] <linkinxp> jlilly, i will read right now, thanks
[14:08] <jlilly> ^^ my bashrc in ubuntu (in transitition from mac)
[14:08] <dany_21a_> blueeagle: on a german locale it would print out "Adresse", because the string looks like: eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  Hardware Adresse 00:50:fc:b1:xx:xx
[14:08] <linkinxp> now how can i make an app in the panel gnome with that info??
[14:09] <dft> hello, anyone know of a better way to get the date of a file instead of ls -ltr --time-style=+%s and piping the result into awk?
[14:09] <blueeagle> dany_21a_: Good point.
[14:09] <blueeagle> linkinxp: Did you get what dany_21a_ said?
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> dr-lee: is that fake raid?
[14:09] <dany_21a_> blueeagle: i also hate, that some commmandline tools a localized...
[14:09] <blueeagle> linkinxp: LC_ALL=C ifconfig |grep eth0|awk {'print $5'}
[14:09] <linkinxp> bluedusk, yes
[14:09] <arturd> am siemka
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> dr-lee: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-288935.html
[14:10] <linkinxp> blueeagle, yes, but how i put a TextLabel in there? in gnome panel? :?
[14:10] <dft> hello, anyone know of a better way to get the date of a file instead of ls -ltr --time-style=+%s and piping the result into awk?
[14:10] <dr-lee> thank you
[14:10] <cowboyd> Hi, I just took a "partial distribution upgrade" of the 8.10beta about 5 minutes ago, and I fear that it is hung on the "cleaning up" step. The last line in the terminal output is "ldconfig deferred processing now taking place."    I'm a bit worried at this point about how to proceed without destroying something major. Anyone have advice on what to do?
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> dft: if it works then sweet
[14:10] <blueeagle> linkinxp: I don't use gnome so I wouldn't know.
[14:10] <dft> it does
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> cowboyd: id give it a bit
[14:11] <nsprams> dany_21a_: smb://199.106.237.143 doesnt show any files..
[14:11] <paul68> blueeagle: I've to keep an close eye on your answers I already learned a lot from you today thanks for that
[14:11] <dft> but I'm wondering if there is a better way while using bash shell scripting
[14:11] <cowboyd> ActionParsnip: it's been at it for over 10 minutes, and I don't see any noticeable cpu or disk usage
[14:11] <dr-lee> i read this article allready..seems very complicated but i will try
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> nsprams: i think you are trying to connect to the wrong thing, you keep giving the address of internet things
[14:11] <linkinxp> blueeagle, thanks, ill find out thanks for your help
[14:11] <blueeagle> linkinxp: echo some label `LC_ALL=C ifconfig |grep eth0|awk {'print $5'}`
[14:11] <linkinxp> and every1's
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> cowboyd: what time is it where you are?
[14:12] <cowboyd> 9:12am
[14:12] <blueeagle> linkinxp: In the command line that will yeld: some label <mac address here>
[14:12] <blueeagle> paul68: :)
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> cowboyd: ok just curious if you could leave it over nigth
[14:12] <dr-lee> second question...how can i install fingerprint software for ubuntu..which software and daemon do you recommend for fingerprint readers ?
[14:12] <cowboyd> ActionParsnip: lol, unfortunately I just got into work!
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> cowboyd: waste some time for another 20mins say giving it 30 mins total
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> cowboyd: ah
[14:13] <cowboyd> ActionParsnip: I'll go get some coffee, delay, etc....
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> best way
[14:13] <nsprams> ActionParsnip: dany_21a_ blueeagle : thanks much for all your help.. i will see if i can get the IP , that i should be connecting to..
[14:13] <icnpunk> who have safe and easy full disk back for linux?
[14:14] <cowboyd> ActionParsnip: If that is the case, it would be nice if it at least gave some sort of response, like "this could take up to 30 minutes"
[14:15] <cowboyd> also, am I endangering the process by using IRC?
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> cowboyd: indeed but i think its eithe taking its sweet time or hng in which caseyou're gonna have to look at your processes
[14:15] <dft> cowboyd: IRC will corrupt your soul
[14:15] <dft> let alone your system:)
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> cowboyd: no, should be ok. the new programs are not used until yuo run them
[14:16] <Pici> dft: You can probably use stat to get the time faster.  i.e.: stat -c %x file.ext  : fyi, it may use your shell's builtin stat, so change to bash if you're using something else (it didn't work properly for me in zsh)
[14:16] <dft> Pici: ty I'll check it out
[14:16] <Raku-chan> bye
[14:17] <cowboyd> ActionParsnip: So, I'm going to wait 20 minutes before doing anything, but if it is hung, what should I do to minimize fail?
[14:18] <dr-lee> dmraid is for raid..look like if i have to make this option fakeraid to use the ahci sata hot pluggin feature, am i right?
[14:18] <dr-lee> isnt there a lil more easy way?
[14:18] <Kartagis> if i am getting 'C++ compiler cannot create executables' error, do i need to
[14:18] <Kartagis> if i am getting 'C++ compiler cannot create executables' error, do i need to get gcc?
[14:19] <jrib> Kartagis: you need build-essential
[14:19] <peter_> Hi. I want to build a Qt/embedded application from source on ubuntu. Where is it available from? Thanks.
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> cowboyd: you can brig up a terminal and type ps -ef
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> cowboyd: you may have a hung app
[14:19] <Kartagis> thanks jrib
[14:20] <blueeagl1> ikonia: Ok, now the script is running. In three hours and ten seconds we'll know if it works. :)
[14:20] <paul68> blueeagle: do you have by any chance a working solution to get a creative labs fatal1y working under ubuntu
[14:21] <BlueEagle> paul68: "working" and "creative" does NOT belong in the same sentence.
[14:21] <paul68> blueeagle: lol
[14:21] <BlueEagle> paul68: You'll have to look elsewhere for that. I refuse to do any kind of support on Creative products.
[14:22] <Pici> paul68: Other people in this channel may be able to help though, be patient.
[14:22] <paul68> blueeagle: no problem
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> BlueEagle: how about its difficult to get *creative* sound cards *working*
[14:24] <dr-lee> thanks for your help though....seems like linux is still an operating system for the it proffessionals...all the time when i want to install a lil hardware functionality i have to compile kernel or kernel modules...this is much too complex and complicated for normal users :(((
[14:24] <BlueEagle> ActionParsnip: How about creative is fucking their customers by releasing crippled drivers to force people to by new sound cards?
[14:25] <Pici> BlueEagle: That language is not necessary.
[14:25] <BlueEagle> sorry about the language.
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> dr-lee: its not hard to compile stuff, dont be afraid
[14:25] <BlueEagle> Pici: I am just a tad upset about their businessmodel, as you probably noticed.
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> BlueEagle: just research whats compatible and buy that rather than buying blind and getting a tonne of grief
[14:26] <mcplectrum> how can i force hardy to use 75hz instead of 60? At the moment only 60hz is available, but the monitor supports 75hz
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> BlueEagle: they make more money by supporting windows so they put more effort into supporting that which is an excellent business model for creatinve as it generates maximum cash
[14:26] <cowboyd> ActionParsnip: yeah, I'll give it 5 more minutes, but which process do I need to kill off? update-manager? Also, where (if at all) should I file a bug in order to help out?
[14:26] <dr-lee> ok ..thanks again..very last question...do you recommend using sata drives in ahci mode on ubuntu..i read that there are still many bugs and i havent found one guy who is saying that he recommends this functionality??
[14:27] <BlueEagle> ActionParsnip: I am talking about the Vista drivers they released (or rather didn't) and when some guy released working drivers they threatened to slap him with a lawsuit for distributing his fix.
[14:27] <anderson> hi
[14:27] <anderson> i need help
[14:27] <BlueEagle> !ask > anderson
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> cowboyd: look at whats running in the list and what the apps are called that you are running to update
[14:27] <remu> hey guys, I'm running the Intrepid Beta, but I have what I believe is a general question. I was having problems with my sound, so I added irqpoll as a kernel option which solved my sound issues, but it seems to make the system less responsive, especially the touchpad. Does anyone know if it is possible to apply the irqpoll only to the soundcard?
[14:27] <anderson> i dont speak english
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> BlueEagle: thats vista for you, i ran it for a month on MSDN license. It sucked
[14:28] <Pici> !br | anderson
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[14:28] <anderson> im not register in channel ubuntu-br
[14:28] <Pici> !register > anderson
[14:28] <BlueEagle> ActionParsnip: Well, it's not Vistas fault as it's Creative that willfully withold drivers that are known to work properly for the sake of having users upgrading their hardware.
[14:28] <dr-lee> any1 here who can recommend using ubuntu with sata drives in ahci mode ??
[14:28] <anderson> how make for register
[14:28] <cowboyd> ActionParsnip:  ok, since this is a dist-upgrade, there are alot of packages
[14:29] <Pici> anderson: See the message from ubottu
[14:29] <murlidhar> can anybody help me setup my tvcard in linux ?
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> cowboyd: true, you may have to websearch a little so you know whats going on
[14:29] <cwraig> murlidhar, what kind of card do you have?
[14:29] <murlidhar> i have installed tvtime already but not able to see any programs
[14:30] <zoli2k> /join #ubuntu-hu
[14:30] <murlidhar> cwraig: it's card with conexant chip on it
[14:31] <TuTUXG> BlueEagle, basically, all the hw companies who only release proprietary drivers are doing the same thing
[14:31] <overrider> trying to install a dependency to get virtualbox to work right it says: "Depends: linux-image-2.6.24-20-generic  but it is not installable" . Searching for mentioned package, it doesnt show up. How can i enable it? It seems my sources.plist is correctly. thanks
[14:31] <Kartagis> http://www.sudrap.org/paste/4796/ <--- why do i get that?
[14:31] <ne2k__> how can I view the current state of a NAT masquerading table? Is it possible to kill a specific connection through a NAT router by issuing a command?
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> overrider: let me guess you are on kernel 2.6.24.19?
[14:31] <ikonia> Kartagis autoheader is not installed on your system
[14:32] <cowboyd> ActionParsnip: yeah, I've search, but not getting to many hits
[14:32] <ikonia> Kartagis:  command not found
[14:32] <overrider> ActionParsnip, yes i am. just installed from the ubuntu cd i downloaded and installed
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> ne2k__: type route
[14:32] <MasterOfZen> http://www.meine-nackte-ex.cc.gd/?ref=3411396
[14:32] <cwraig> murlidhar, do you know if linux has identified your card correctly?
[14:32] <overrider> ls -l
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> overrider: you install virtualbox then theres a module pertaining to vbox which must match your kernel number. let me fire up my box
[14:33] <ne2k__> ActionParsnip: what has the routing table got to do with it?
[14:33] <ward__> what is mapping hotplug in /etc/network/interfaces used for?
[14:33] <murlidhar> cwraig: i am not sure
[14:33] <dr-lee> k. u linux guys want the ordinary linux users like me doin kernel and module compiling....now i know why i everyone is suggesting installing a bootloader so you can at least work after unsuccesful kernel compile
[14:33] <mctag> loey all
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> ne2k__: it'll show you routes that are active which should show you some info
[14:33] <ikonia> dr-lee you need a boot loader to boot linux - you can't work without one
[14:33] <NET||abuse> How can i get the nm-applet to use the pptp connection settings for when i need to vpn to work?
[14:33] <overrider> ActionParsnip, thats right. but then selecting that package it says it cannot install it because it needs the linux-image-2.6.24-20-generic, which it cannot find. and i cannot find it using the synaptic either
[14:33] <ikonia> dr-lee: thats nothing to do with compiling a kernel
[14:34] <anderson> why change nick name
[14:34] <ne2k__> dr-lee: man, you should be taking the lid off your hard drive and remagnetizing bits of it by hand
[14:34] <dr-lee> hehehe
[14:34] <anderson> i never make this
[14:34] <ward__> what is mapping hotplug in /etc/network/interfaces used for?
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> overrider: the thing its trying to install, change the name to end in 19 and it will sail
[14:34] <mctag> need some help with 8.04 lts   (wipe all existing lvm/raids)
[14:34] <dr-lee> thank you guys anyways
[14:34] <TuTUXG> dr-lee, i have used linux (ubuntu and suse) for 5 years and on at least 12 different laptops and I have never need to compile kernel
[14:34] <ikonia> mctag: what is the issue
[14:35] <cwraig> murlidhar, can you open the file manager and go to /dev  in that folder should be a file called video0 or something similar
[14:35] <ne2k__> ActionParsnip: why would seeing routes tell me what the NAT masquerading table was?
[14:35] <cwraig> TuTUXG, wow thats an achievement
[14:35] <mctag> ikonia been stuck between istalls - the new install autodetect all depreciated pars
[14:35] <SurfnKid> hi guys, im trying to set up the ports to access a computer via SSH
[14:35] <ikonia> mctag delete the partitions at a partition level
[14:35] <SurfnKid> which ports should I open?
[14:35] <SurfnKid> port 22 only?
[14:36] <alsor> 22
[14:36] <alsor> yuh
[14:36] <dr-lee> i wanted to use the terratec usb dvb-t device..therefore i had to compile kernel modules and change firmware...i want to use ahci and i have to compile kernel as it seems, i want to use music software andi need realtime kernel...everything needs compiling kernels and modules :((
[14:36] <TuTUXG> cwraig, i repair laptops for friends
[14:36] <SurfnKid> alsor: ok cool
[14:36] <ward__> SurfnKid, yes 22 should do it (tcp btw)
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> ne2k__: sorry, i misunderstood
[14:36] <SurfnKid> thanks
[14:36] <ne2k__> SurfnKid: tcp port 22
[14:36] <alsor> SurfnKid: al right
[14:36] <murlidhar> cwraig: will that be a folder ?
[14:36] <cwraig> SurfnKid, 22
[14:36] <mctag> ikonia: tryed that when recreate mdadm or lvm initalise alwas the old crap
[14:36] <cwraig> murlidhar, no it will be a file
[14:36]  * SurfnKid is now more assured than ever with several different sources of confirmation
[14:36] <abe3k> hi guys :), I have a question, is it possible to view my windows registry from ubuntu ?
[14:36]  * SurfnKid is relieved :]
[14:37] <ward__> lol
[14:37] <ne2k__> alsor: cwraig: there is no such thing as "port 22". there is udp port 22, and there is tcp port 22
[14:37] <dr-lee> everyone says compile but i am after 25 years hanging infront of the screen still no it specialist..shit
[14:37] <SurfnKid> gotta run
[14:37] <murlidhar> cwraig: yes there is file called video0
[14:37] <ikonia> mctagif how are you deleting the partitions and at what stage are you deleting them
[14:37] <ikonia> mctag: keep in mind you need to have the volumes stopped the the logical volumes deactived
[14:37] <mctag> ikonia isnt there any way to  wipe that crap exept  wipe or dd
[14:37] <BlueEagle> TuTUXG: But not all threaten to sue people who provide 3rd party fixes.
[14:37] <ward__> what is mapping hotplug in /etc/network/interfaces used for?
[14:37] <cwraig> murlidhar, do you have a webcam or some other kind of video input device?
[14:38] <ikonia> mctag: so you've not done fdisk on the physical devices (not meta drives) and removed the partitions
[14:38] <murlidhar> cwraig: nope . just the tvcard .
[14:38] <anphi> hi, I've got an KUbuntu USB-Stick that will not start X or bash and just stops in an busybox (initramfs) every time I boot it
[14:38] <dr-lee> copy and pasting some lines in the terminal windows which i dont understand is allright for me but compiling without knowing what i am doin there is quite dangerous..there is risk that i am compiling malware in the kernel
[14:38] <abe3k> is it possible to view a windows registry from ubuntu ?
[14:38] <ikonia> abe3k not relaly
[14:38] <ikonia> really
[14:38] <alsor> ne2k__: yes, u r right:)
[14:38] <ne2k__> abe3k: you can probably run regedt32 under wine. not sure, though
[14:39] <abe3k> no I mean my windows from another partition
[14:39] <LjL> ne2k__: yeah but wine's own regedit uses a different format, so you'd have to try windows' own
[14:39] <TuTUXG> BlueEagle, just because there are no one that knowledgeable to write a better driver for stuff like graphic cards
[14:39] <mctag> ikonia: ack. mdadm has a lot of bugtraqs   the last time i wiped the drives to get rid of the prob.  takes a loooong time on 2 500 gb
[14:40] <dr-lee> time to take some bottles of anti sadness beer :((
[14:40] <ward__> mctag, i want 2.5terrabyte too!
[14:40] <ward__> lol
[14:40] <mctag> ward_ 2x 500
[14:40] <mctag> =-P
[14:40] <cwraig> murlidhar, ok there is a good chance that that is your tv card then, i have never used tvtime but i have used xawtv to debug tvcard inputs, i would recommend installing that (sudo apt-get install xawtv) then running xawtv from the command line and see what comes up
[14:41] <cwraig> ne2k__, yea i suppose the question was about firewalls so i should have been more specific
[14:41] <tony_> irc.freenode.org/vbox
[14:41] <mctag> ward_ : 1 tb is still too expensive here
[14:41] <murlidhar> cwraig: ok i will install it right now
[14:41] <dr-lee> thanks and cu !
[14:41] <dr-lee> bye
[14:41] <ward__> mctag, aaah lol still thats a lot, i have 580GB, but on the other hand i have 2 WD 10000rpm raptors :D
[14:41] <BlueEagle> ActionParsnip, Pici, paul68: If you're interested in what I'm on about please read http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&thread.id=116332
[14:41] <LjL> !info chntpw | abe3k, despite the description, google says this might be a full-fledged registry editor
[14:42] <Dudema1> I keep getting a packages sum mismatch whenever I try to update my packages information.
[14:42] <abe3k> ljl : I just found this search :D
[14:42] <trilobit`> LjL: point taken in away's
[14:42] <etag> can some one point me link for installing jboss server on ubuntu?
[14:42] <ward__> i love my raptors in RAID0 :)
[14:42] <LjL> abe3k: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=678747 as well
[14:42] <mctag> waard_: rented a box   500gb  raid with xen
[14:42] <Kartagis> is autoheader included in autoconf?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> ward__: you seen SAS in raid 50?
[14:43] <ward__> mctag, i never tried xen up till now
[14:43] <ward__> ActionParsnip, nope, but sounds cool
[14:43] <mctag> waard_: using vhosts
[14:43] <mctag> ?
[14:43] <ward__> mctag, im not sure what you mean, and the name is ward :p not waard
[14:44] <Dudema1> Why do I continuously get this whenever I run sudo apt-get update?
[14:44] <Dudema1> W: Failed to fetch http://ae.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> ward__: oh only lots
[14:44] <mctag> *bow*  ward_
[14:44] <ward__> ActionParsnip, for a desktop those 2 raptors work great :)
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> ward__: 4 x SCSI HDDs to make 1 logical drive
[14:44] <ward__> lol mctag use tab completion its a double _ at the moment :p
[14:44] <anderson> hi help please
[14:45] <Dudema1> !ask
[14:45] <murlidhar> cwraig: installed it but it's not showing any channels
[14:45] <ward__> ActionParsnip, sounds good too, but i only have a desktop, no server so i use SATA :)
[14:45] <mctag> nah  i'm oldskool
[14:45] <anderson> i cant the register in the channel ubuntu-br
[14:45] <BlueEagle> TuTUXG: If you're interested in my rant I can /msg it to you. I don't see any point in continuing in here. :)
[14:45] <anderson> is hard
[14:45] <ward__> ActionParsnip, ive been thinking though, i have 2 regular drives of allmost the same size, maybe im gona put them into raid0 all 4
[14:45] <mctag> afk
[14:45] <TuTUXG> BlueEagle, it's ok, im just random chatting
[14:46] <BlueEagle> :)
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> ward__: or raid 10
[14:46] <ward__> ActionParsnip, i dont need redundancy anyway :D might aswell go for speed
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> ward__: or raid 5 with one drive as disk parity
[14:47] <ward__> ActionParsnip, if it was a server i would go for RAID5, imho the best combo between speed and redundancy
[14:47] <cwraig> murlidhar, ok, i think its safe to assume that your card is setup correctly from a hardware/driver point of view, you will now need to scan for channels and this is where you will need to ask someone else maybe hit up #mythtv i dont know much about the use of these cards only their setup
[14:47] <abe3k> ok so I think a cool idea would be to copy windows registry to overwrite wine's registry and view it
[14:47] <murlidhar> cwraig: k thanks .:)
[14:47] <BlueEagle> ward__: The speedgains from raid0 is only apperant on very large files. On small files the access times eat up any potential gain from running raid0. Atleat that's what I'm told.
[14:47] <ward__> abe3k, no need for overwrite
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> abe3k: you can simply view the .reg file with yuor favourite text viewer, its a text file
[14:48] <ward__> abe3k, you could export the whole registry and read it as a file with regedit :)
[14:48] <ibeL> g
[14:48] <abe3k> ward__ : so I can use wine's regedit
[14:48] <ward__> lol ActionParsnip beat me to it
[14:48] <cwraig> abe3k, cant you just export the regsitry from regedit in windows?
[14:48] <abe3k> ward__ : windows registry is in binary mode
[14:48] <ward__> abe3k, never tried it but that would seem logical yes, you should ask in #wine to make sure
[14:49] <friezeart> hello. i am trying to install a mail server plus some imap mechanism, so i can access mail securely. previously i used courier-imap ssl and postfix, but i think there is newer software. had seen tutorials on ubuntu sites before now i just cant see to find them
[14:49] <abe3k> cwraig : but I have to log into windows which I don't want to do
[14:49] <ward__> abe3k, im sure you can export the windows registry into a reg file like ActionParsnip also said
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> abe3k: itll make a file of about 5Mb then you can read it in nano
[14:49] <abe3k> ActionParnsip : windows registry isn't a text file I guess
[14:49] <ward__> lol too lazy to boot windows, well then i dont think we can help you any further, at least not me
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> abe3k: or be smart and use something like: cat ./file.reg | grep <search string>
[14:50] <BlueEagle> ward__: I would create a backup of the registry files that wine generates before copying over the ones from your windows drive.
[14:50] <ward__> BlueEagle, im not the one planning to do that :p
[14:51] <abe3k> ActionParsnip : this is windows registry for software "/media/sda1/WINDOWS/system32/config/software.sav" and its binary
[14:51] <ward__> BlueEagle, abe3k wants to read his windows registry in wine and we allready told him its best to export his registry in windows and then open it in wine, no need to overwrite
[14:51] <cwraig> abe3k, if i remember correctly there was some kind of group policy that let you run commands in windows on shutdown, you could dump your registry on each shutdown to a text file and then import it into wine each time (theres prob a command line thing for that too)
[14:51] <Frozenball> I hate Windows registery
[14:51] <wtgee> Hola...where did the 'turn trackpad off while typing' feature go in Ibex?
[14:51] <Frozenball> the *nix way is much better
[14:52] <BlueEagle> ward__: My bad on the nick. But as he sais, he doesn't want to boot into windows. THat leaves overwriting as the only viable option unless you want to start modding regedit to take a parameter and open a different file. :)
[14:52] <thiebaude> !ibex
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> Frozenball: win3.1 had config files like *nix
[14:52] <wtgee> thibaude: sorry, thanks
[14:52] <ward__> BlueEagle, nah just exporting it would be best, if he doesnt want to boot windows then why is it on his drive?
[14:53] <thiebaude> your welcomed, wtgee
[14:53] <BlueEagle> ward__: nostalgia? :p
[14:53] <cwraig> BlueEagle, haha
[14:53] <ward__> BlueEagle, lol
[14:54] <Ibrahim> hello , I have just try to install intrepid on my dell inspiron 6400 but boot process hang after splash screen appeared. I can do nothing after that.. Any suggestion?
[14:54] <Pici> Ibrahim: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid/8.10 support/discussion.
[14:54] <ward__> what is mapping hotplug in /etc/network/interfaces used for?
[14:54] <anphi> hi, I've got an KUbuntu USB-Stick that will not start X or bash and just stops in an busybox (initramfs) every time I boot it
[14:55] <albano> aloooooooooooooooooooooo
[14:56] <ward__> pfff
[14:56] <ward__> does anyone know a lot about /etc/network/interfaces?
[14:56] <ward__> i need to know what mapping hotplug is used for
[14:57] <wang> irc.pythian
[14:57] <ward__> :s
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> ward__: mapping hotplug?
[14:58] <ward__> ActionParsnip, correct, do i need it?
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> ward__: im conversant with the file
[14:59] <ward__> ActionParsnip, probably not if you dunno about it :)
[14:59] <thiebaude> ward_:you trying to do something with usb?
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> ward__: not heard of it
[14:59] <Lamba> i used to have an app years ago on gentoo where you could pipe in text and it'd give you an ascii art bubble writing of it, bout 2-3" high. - cant for the life of me remember what it was called though. anyone seen it in ubunru repos ?
[14:59] <ward__> ActionParsnip, ok then im gonna try if it works without, because one interface is connected to my neighbours wifi network and it can fall away sometimes
[14:59] <wtgee> warn__:  usb network cards?
[15:00] <ward__> ActionParsnip, i thought it could be needed to reconnect automatically
[15:00] <ward__> thiebaude, nope not at all why do you think that?
[15:00] <ward__> thiebaude, /etc/network/interfaces is used to store the configuration of network interfaces
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> ward__: just comment out the line then sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[15:01] <mctag> re
[15:01] <ward__> ActionParsnip, ah nice i thought i really had to reboot to make sure it worked, didnt now restarting networking would do it :)
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> ward__: nar reboots are for windows and kernel updates
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> ward__: linux is made for uptime dude
[15:01] <thiebaude> ward:just googling to see if i could come up with an answer
[15:01] <ward__> ActionParsnip, actually its possible to do a kernel update without rebooting since a while ago :p
[15:02] <dxj313> hello
[15:02] <ward__> thiebaude, ah ok no problem :)
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> ward__: nice
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> ward__: id still reboot to make sure it comes up ok from cold
[15:02] <mctag> ward_: know a way to remove all lvm /raid without remove  or dd / wipe ?
[15:02] <ward__> thiebaude, another tip: if you type the first few letters of a nickname press tabl to use tab completion, :) (works in a terminal aswell for files and dirs)
[15:02] <ikonia> you can't do kernel updates without rebooting
[15:02] <ikonia> thats impossible
[15:02] <ward__> ActionParsnip, will do, its a VM anyway :) gonna try to loaddbalance between 2 interfaces
[15:02] <ward__> brb
[15:03] <luddite> hi: has anyone done the upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 and had all drivers and modules successfully working without re-making?
[15:03] <Pici> !ibex | luddite
[15:03] <ikonia> luddite: 8.10 support is in #ubuntu+1 and it's still in beta so it WILL break
[15:03] <luddite> ok thatnks very mucj
[15:03] <luddite> wont upgrade
[15:03] <luddite> :-) YET
[15:03] <ferronica> how to log in as root in ubuntu 8.04? (in Text mode)
[15:03] <ward_> mctag, i only use fakeraid in windows, no raid in linux :( dunno sorry
[15:04] <ikonia> ferronica: you don'ty
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> luddite: when its time to upgrade your system will tell you
[15:04] <ikonia> dont
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> luddite: if its all working why are you wanting to fix it?
[15:04] <ferronica> ikonia: what?
[15:04] <thiebaude> luddite:did you sudo apt-get update-manager -d?
[15:04] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: actually it won't as 8.04 is an LTS release so it shouldn't alert that 8.10 is available
[15:04] <thiebaude> did
[15:04] <ferronica> ikonia: didnt get you
[15:04] <ikonia> ferronica: you don't login as root
[15:04] <Slart> ferronica: use sudo for all your root needs
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> im gonna sit on hardy for a long while its nice
[15:04] <ferronica> ikonia: why so, if i want to work as root then what i have to do?
[15:05] <thiebaude> me too actionparsnip
[15:05] <mctag> ward_ whish i'd  bought that raid controller
[15:05] <ikonia> ferronica: use sudo
[15:05] <thrope> hi - using ubuntu 8.10 my time and date setttings (including unlock) are greyed out and setting date at the command line just gets reset (it's an hour out) - how can I change the time?
[15:05] <ikonia> !intrepid | thrope
[15:05] <thiebaude> there is problems with intel onboard cards
[15:05] <ferronica> ikonia: in text mode also (Alt+F1)
[15:05] <thrope> ikonia: sorry its 8.04 not 8.10 - the current one
[15:05] <ikonia> ferronica: yes
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: graphics, sound, wireless?
[15:06] <luddite> ActionParsnip: when i upgrade to 8.04 it totally fucked up my system so i needed to fresh install -(i backup everything b4 i do installs so no data was lost). so im wondering if this will be another dismal failure like what most  people experienced last upgrade?
[15:06] <mctag> ikonia: got an idea ?  to wipe all former crap ?
[15:06] <ferronica> ikonia: Oh, i wanna to do some renaming of file in usr, what command should i use?
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> luddite: i always do a clean install due to the woes ive heard
[15:06] <ikonia> ferronica: sudo mv
[15:06] <thiebaude> actionparsnip:in 8.10 i tried to change plug n play to intel 815 and then when i rebooted the os would not load
[15:06] <luddite> cool - point taken
[15:06] <ikonia> mctag: use fdisk to destroy the partition
[15:06] <luddite> i will try though
[15:07] <luddite> i only have wifi and webcam drivers needed
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> ferronica: e.g sudo mv ~/somefile.txt /usr/bin/
[15:07] <luddite> compiz settings DAMN
[15:07] <luddite> can they be saved
[15:07] <ward_> mctag, if you mean fakeraid its not very usefull in linux anyway, software raid is faster i read several times
[15:07] <mctag> ikonia: did that overwrote it some times the damn kernel still redetect the old lvm
[15:07] <ikonia> mctag how can it detect lvm if the partitions are gone
[15:08] <thiebaude> !lvm
[15:08] <jrib> luddite: upgrades have always run smoothly for me after final release using only official repositories (no third party)
[15:09] <ikonia> mctag: your /etc/mdadm.conf has the raid entries removed I assume
[15:09] <thiebaude> jrib:all the upgrades over the past 4 yrs went perfect, it's just this one i have a problem
[15:09] <mctag> ubottu: great: i spend  hours reading bgtrqs ....
[15:09] <ikonia> thiebaude your upgrading to a beta release
[15:09] <mctag> ikonia: no. new system.
[15:09] <thiebaude> !ubottu
[15:10] <Pici> !8.10
[15:10] <ikonia> mctag I cannot understand how you could have raid or lvm data detected if you fdisk'd and removed the partitions on the disks
[15:10] <mctag> seems to be common tho
[15:10] <jatt> hi today i got a laptop with ubuntu on it. When I run
[15:10] <jatt> xclock
[15:10] <jatt> I get
[15:10] <thiebaude> ikona:yes
[15:10] <jatt> No protocol specified
[15:10] <jatt> why/
[15:10] <ikonia> thiebaude what do you expect ?
[15:10] <jatt> ?
[15:11] <eg3> does anyone know where the Administration->"Screens and Graphics"  to setup the second monitor went on ubuntu 8.04
[15:11] <mctag> ikonia: me nether.... they seem to be gone. if you want to set up new ones -dev busy
[15:11] <ferronica> ikonia: i am trying to change that ubuntu logo left top corner to something else
[15:11] <Ward1983> how do i setup /etc/network/interfaces ?
[15:11] <Ward1983> im startign to get insane from it
[15:12] <thiebaude> ikonia:that's right, now i'am back in 8.04
[15:12] <ikonia> ferronica ok?
[15:12] <mctag> ward1983: vim ?
[15:12] <ne2k__> eg3: I think it's done through preferences->screen resolution
[15:12] <Ward1983> mctag, huh?
[15:12] <ikonia> mctag are these the only two disks in the system ?
[15:13] <mctag> ikonia: ack raid1
[15:13] <Dudema1> Why do I keep getting package sum mismatches whenever I try and update my software sources no matter which server I update from?
[15:13] <mctag> Ward1983: OKAY TAKE MC
[15:13] <mctag> ETC NET
[15:13] <mctag> caps sorry
[15:13] <eg3> ne2k__, hmmm its not activating my second monitor on my laptop? i know hte nvidia drivers had a tool but i cant find that executable
[15:13] <Lamba> quick note, that command i was looking for (ascii art cli) was "figlet". just came to me :)
[15:13] <thiebaude> ikonia:i was back in 8.04, but last nite i upgraded to 8.10 and let plug n play detect my graphics card, don't have any problems now.
[15:13] <Ward1983> mctag, huh? :s
[15:14] <Ward1983> mctag, wth are you talking about lol
[15:14] <Pici> Lamba: 'toilet' also exists and has a few more features.
[15:14] <Dudema1> lavatory, too
[15:14] <Ward1983> bath too ?
[15:14] <Ward1983> :p
[15:14] <Ward1983> bathtub
[15:14] <Pici> !info toilet
[15:15] <Dudema1> but can somebody tell me why do I *keep* getting package sum mismatches no matter which update server I select in Software Sources?
[15:15] <Dudema1> It's driving me insane
[15:15] <mctag> Ward1983: try vim /etc/net......
[15:15] <Ward1983> mctag, duh... its just that what i put in there doesnt work
[15:15] <cwraig> thiebaude, i think that nvidia app was under applicaitons system tools nvidia
[15:15] <Ward1983> mctag, ill pastebin it :)
[15:16] <thiebaude> brb i got 32 mb of updates in 8.10
[15:16] <mctag> Ward1983: 8.04 ?
[15:17] <mctag> Ward1983: vim /etc/network/interfaces
[15:17] <Ward1983> mctag, 7.10 (need older kernel)
[15:17] <mctag> ah
[15:17] <Ward1983> mctag, ffs I KNOW
[15:17] <Ward1983> lol
[15:17] <Ward1983> mctag, its just thqt what i put in that file doesnt seem to work
[15:17] <mctag> hehehe
[15:17] <Ward1983> mctag, this is the ocntent: http://paste.ubuntu.com/55294/
[15:17] <VulKnO> hello world!!
[15:18] <Ward1983> hello VulKnO
[15:18] <Dudema1> goodbye, cruel world!
[15:18] <Dudema1> no, not really
[15:18] <Ward1983> lol
[15:18] <dxj313> hello,this is my first to ubuntu xchat
[15:18] <`snake> i want to search the entire home folder and subfolders for a specific filename.xyz from the command line, whats the easiest way to do so? ls grep?
[15:19] <ne2k__> in case anyone read my question and thought "hmm, I wish I knew that", the answer, I have discovered, is /proc/net/ip_conntrack
[15:19] <ne2k__> `snake: find
[15:19] <Pici> `snake: find ~/ -name filename.xyz
[15:19] <cwraig> dxj313, welcome
[15:19] <ne2k__> `snake: cd ~; find -name filename.xyz
[15:19] <VulKnO> help!!!!::: in windows vista with python
[15:19] <VulKnO> import sys
[15:19] <VulKnO> sys.platform
[15:19] <VulKnO> >>> 'win32' or 'win64' or 'winvista'
[15:19] <`snake> thanks
[15:19] <FloodBot2> VulKnO: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:19] <`snake> im so lazy ;)
[15:19] <dxj313> thank you
[15:19] <Ward1983> what is wrong with this /etc/network/interfaces file? http://paste.ubuntu.com/55294/
[15:19] <Pici> VulKnO: This is Ubuntu support, not Windows or Python. Try ##windows or #python .
[15:20] <Dudema1> guys, I keep getting a hash sum mismatch in packages.gz whenever I run apt-get update?
[15:20] <ne2k__> Ward1983: errm, it's got lots of xs in it?
[15:20] <Dudema1> any advice on how to rectify the situation?
[15:20] <cwraig> Dudema1, i also had one earlier today but it went away after an hour when i re updated
[15:20] <Slart> Dudema1: try using a different mirror
[15:20] <Ward1983> ne2k__, thats done on purpose lol, what was there is right :)
[15:20] <cwraig> Dudema1, if your really desperate for updates you could try another mirror
[15:21] <mctag> Ward1983: live cd ?
[15:21] <tiago> fgr
[15:21] <Ward1983> mctag, no haha :D
[15:21] <tiago> i there
[15:21] <quentusrex> How do I stop apache? when I run /etc/init.d/apache2 restart it complains that the pid isn't running. But there are 10 apache2 listed in ps -A
[15:21] <Guest17452> :)
[15:22] <Guest17452> hellou
[15:22] <VulKnO> I have a python script to download *. deb of ubuntu in win but not if it works in winvista
[15:22] <Guest17452>  chaert
[15:22] <Ward1983> hello Guest17452 / tiago
[15:22] <Guest17452> i there
[15:22] <Ward1983> you dont speak english?
[15:22] <Ward1983> what language do you speak? there are local channels aswell
[15:23] <Guest17452> im portuguese
[15:23] <Guest17452> so my english is a litle bad
[15:23] <mctag> Ward1983: same range?  fuqin .x.x.
[15:23] <jim_p> !greek
[15:23] <Ward1983> Guest17452, /join #ubuntu-pt for portuguese support :)
[15:23] <Guest17452> i ned hel to install a driver ati in unbutu
[15:24] <Guest17452> /join #ubuntu-pt for portuguese support
[15:24] <Ward1983> just "/join #ubuntu-pt"
[15:24] <Ward1983> (without the quotes)
[15:24] <Guest17452> sorry thanks
[15:25] <Caesi> hey there
[15:25] <amanu> i messed up with my display manager how can i get back
[15:25] <Caesi> ho do I run a *.run file? :)
[15:25] <Guest17452> olá está ai alguem
[15:25] <jrib> Caesi: why?
[15:25] <BlueEagle> Caesi: chmod o+x filename.run
[15:25] <amanu> Caesi:are u using xp?
[15:25] <jrib> !pt | Guest17452
[15:25] <quentusrex> I get the error "Authentication information not available. Please refer" any time I try to log into trac.
[15:25] <Guest17452> ola
[15:25] <lliw00> im looking to replace the boot disk in my home server. whats anyones opinion on the diy ssd vs. hdd arguement?
[15:25] <BlueEagle> Caesi: then do ./filename.run
[15:25] <Ward1983> Guest17452, you're stil in the main ubuntu channel lol
[15:26] <amanu> i recently installed kde
[15:26] <shadowbq> Anybody know how to add a new user without a password passed auth only ssh key based auth?
[15:26] <Caesi> I'm trying to install vodafone-mobile-connect-driver
[15:26] <Caesi> and it comes as a *.run file
[15:26] <jrib> lliw00: try ##hardware
[15:26] <amanu> but i think its packages
[15:26] <amanu> are broken how to retrieve
[15:26] <mctag> Ward1983: running on 7.10  non virt hardware ?
[15:26] <amanu> im unable to login
[15:26] <amanu> what can i do
[15:26] <danbh_intrepid> amanu: can you pastebin the error?
[15:27] <Slart> lliw00: I have a ssd and I would say it's not really worth the money
[15:27] <jrib> Caesi: did it not come with documentation?
[15:27] <Ward1983> mctag, no its a vmware VM
[15:27] <magnetron> shadowbq, you need to generate keys for all the users that should login to ssh via keys.
[15:27] <Caesi> not really
[15:27] <Ward1983> mctag, the ranges are fine
[15:27] <mctag> argl
[15:27] <Ward1983> mctag, the ip's are fine, not in the same range :) i knew that
[15:27] <albano> gente alguem ai fala portuguez
[15:27] <magnetron> !pt | albano
[15:27] <shadowbq> magnetron, I know how to generate keys, I was wondering if there is a PAM setting or the like in ubuntu?
[15:27] <Pici> !pt | albano
[15:27] <mctag> non abla portugesh
[15:27] <Slart>  /away
[15:27] <mctag> =)
[15:28] <danbh_intrepid> !pm | amanu
[15:28] <magnetron> shadowbq, you mean, so the user can only login via ssh, not local?
[15:28] <shadowbq> magnetron, completely disable password based auth is the goal.
[15:28] <albano> my city brasil sao paulo
[15:28] <VulKnO> q tal spanish
[15:28] <amanu> danbh_intrepid: im unable to see diaplay to login after reboot
[15:28] <amanu>  as i  installed kde manager
[15:28] <amanu>  in ubuntu 8.04
[15:28] <amanu>  no im in another runnins os
[15:28] <Slart> !es
[15:28] <FloodBot2> amanu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:28] <mctag> Ward1983:  nope there was a briding issue imo
[15:28] <magnetron> !br | albano
[15:28] <danbh_intrepid> amanu: try this command sudo tasksel install kubuntu-desktop
[15:28] <thiebaude> !
[15:28] <Ward1983> mctag, damn :( ffs
[15:29] <Ward1983> mctag, what is briding?
[15:29] <Ward1983> mctag, bridging?
[15:29] <jrib> Caesi: in general you make the file executable and then give it's path in a shell.  So chmod +x file  followed by  ./file   for example
[15:29] <magnetron> shadowbq, generate keys for the users, then disable password authentication in the sshd config
[15:29] <shadowbq> magnetron, yes. This is ubuntu server not a desktop. root disabled via ssh, root only on actual terminal tty0.
[15:29] <albano> magneton fala minha lingua
[15:29] <Ward1983> mctag, my VM is NATed, and the other interface is a USB wifi NIC
[15:29] <Vallhalla81> !linux
[15:29] <amanu> danbh_intrepid:no im not talking about the ubuntu im using the error is on my dual boot (another ubuntu)
[15:29] <mctag> Ward1983:  just read a lot openvz/xen/vmware
[15:29] <amanu> how can i type
[15:29] <Caesi> hm didn't work jrib
[15:30] <jrib> !didn't work | Caesi
[15:30] <albano> #ubuntu br alo
[15:30] <magnetron> shadowbq, you can disable password auth for all accounts in the sshd config
[15:30] <Ward1983> mctag, i do not intend to become a virtualisation expert, i jsut use it sometimes to test stuff out like now
[15:30] <thiebaude> lol
[15:30] <jrib> Caesi: how exactly did it not work?
[15:30] <shadowbq> magnetron, all other users access via ssh key based only.
[15:30] <thiebaude> jrib::)
[15:30] <magnetron> shadowbq, yes
[15:30] <Caesi> I'm using the terminal right? so I type chmod +x file
[15:30] <Ward1983> mctag, the problem is i do not feel like isntalling ubuntu 7.10 on my machine, i allready have 8.04
[15:30] <danbh_intrepid> amanu: did you try to install the kde-login thing?
[15:30] <Caesi> then what exactly do I have to type in?
[15:31] <mctag> Ward1983: got you. can you ping the vm from the host or did you fuq (uhm, i  mean mess =)) it up there )
[15:31] <amanu> danbh_intrepid: i can see onl;y grub> in safe mode at black screen can i type this there"sudo tasksel install kubuntu-desktop"
[15:31] <Caesi> ah it's doing something :)
[15:31] <jrib> Caesi: file should be the actual name of your file.  And you need to be in the directory your file is in
[15:31] <Caesi> yeah sure
[15:31] <Caesi> now it's working (seems so at least)
[15:31] <danbh_intrepid> amanu: can you use ctrl+alt+f1  to get to a tty?
[15:32] <li_> hi
[15:32] <amanu> danbh_intrepid:i installes kde from terminal and to see how it will be i rebooted
[15:32] <Caesi> of course there's some error
[15:32] <amanu> and then changed session to kde
[15:32] <Ward1983> mctag, i can ping it after i manually do a ifconfig eth0 up and a dhclient eth0 (or set it staically)
[15:32] <BlueEagle> amanu: if you only get grub> then you're not even past the boot loader.
[15:32] <amanu> after i cant find display manager working
[15:32] <Ward1983> mctag, but i put the same settings in /etc/networking/interfaces and there they dont work
[15:32] <albano> meu nome daniel de bauru sp alguem fala portuguez
[15:32] <jrib> albano: /join #ubuntu-pt
[15:32] <Ward1983> ffs wtf is it today with the portuguese people :s
[15:33] <thiebaude> !pt
[15:33] <albano> ???  sei la que isso ubutu  so novato aqui
[15:33] <magnetron> Ward1983, ubuntu is probably gaining ground in Brasil.yay!
[15:33] <amanu> i can get upto this "running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)" [ok]
[15:33] <amanu> and after that a cursor just blinki9ng
[15:33] <Ward1983> magnetron, yeah bot so many so close after each other lol
[15:33] <jrib> albano: para entrar no canal portugues, escreve isto:  /join #ubuntu-pt
[15:34] <amanu> BlueEagle:i can get upto this "running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)" [ok]
[15:34] <amanu> and after that a cursor just blinki9ng
[15:34] <danbh_intrepid> amanu: can you give the exact command you used to install?
[15:34] <amanu> no disply after that as usual
[15:34] <albano> alo
[15:34] <amanu> danbh_intrepid:yes
[15:34] <amanu> sudo apt-get install k-desktop
[15:34] <FreshPrince> guuuut, ubuntu funktioniert super auf dem laptop :)
[15:34] <amanu> i think so
[15:35] <amanu> danbh_intrepid:to install kde
[15:35] <thiebaude> !de
[15:35] <amanu> desktop
[15:35] <albano> brasil ninguem
[15:35] <b3nw> what magic does it take to get firefox to allow me to choose what I want to do with a file, instead of opening the annoying totem-plugin crap?
[15:35] <b3nw> i've set the content type
[15:35] <albano> o moçada
[15:35] <danbh_intrepid> amanu: did you run the tasksel command I gave you?
[15:35] <thiebaude> hiel freshprince
[15:35] <amanu> danbh_intrepid:as i said the problem is not in the ubuntu im now logged in
[15:36] <amanu> it is in the other dual booted ubuntu
[15:36] <amanu> shall i type thids here
[15:36] <murlidhar> cwraig: it's not setup. dmesg shows it as unknown.
[15:36] <jrib> albano: aqui so falamos ingles.  Eu disse-te para escrever    /join #ubuntu-pt    se tu queres falar portugues
[15:36] <danbh_intrepid> amanu: can you then run the command on the broken system?
[15:36] <amanu> danbh_intrepid:i have 2 ubunut running on my system
[15:36] <danbh_intrepid> amanu: whats your native language?
[15:37] <amanu> danbh_intrepid:im not even getting login screen for that  broken one
[15:37] <amanu> danbh_intrepid:hindi]
[15:37] <amanu> danbh_intrepid:is im not clear?
[15:37] <danbh_intrepid> amanu: well, I feel like that I'm not being clear...
[15:37] <amanu> danbh_intrepid:any problem with my way of speaking?
[15:38] <amanu> danbh_intrepid:ok i will try to be clear
[15:38] <amanu> listen
[15:38] <amanu> i have two ubuntu versions installed on my current system
[15:38] <danbh_intrepid> amanu: I think you should try that command, and Im unclear as to whether you tried it, or as to why you cant try it
[15:39] <Ash-Fox> !dmix
[15:39] <amanu> danbh_intrepid:i cant get even the log in session for my broken system
[15:39] <Tundrayeti311> anyone know if there are major issues w/ USB devices with coreaudio recently?
[15:39] <danbh_intrepid> !tty | amanu
[15:39] <danbh_intrepid> amanu: can you get to one of those, on the broken system?
[15:39] <amanu> i can get upto this "running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)" [ok]
[15:40] <amanu> danbh_intrepid:as i said the problem is not in the ubuntu im now logged in
[15:40] <danbh_intrepid> amanu: can you get to a terminal?
[15:40] <Ven]n> if i install ubuntu to a usb key.. what file system should i use?
[15:40] <Caesi> jrib, how can I change file permissions from mode 0600 to 0660 ? chmod 660 file ?
[15:40] <Ven]n> is it bad to use fat32?
[15:40] <danbh_intrepid> amanu: a tty terminal
[15:41] <jrib> !permissions > Caesi
[15:41] <amanu> i dont know what is a tty terminal
[15:41] <Batty4> om
[15:41] <danbh_intrepid> !tty > amanu
[15:41] <Caesi> thanks!
[15:41] <elpargo> amanu, it's an old terminal, you basically don't have those today just emulators.
[15:41] <tylrd> amanu--> its a console,
[15:42] <GleepGlop>  i have an old QNX console, amber screen ohhh
[15:42] <murlidhar> can anybody help me setup my pixeltv pro card ? dmesg show it as unknown/generic and lsmod loads the bttv driver
[15:43] <qbmaniac> Remote Desktop Viewer... does it work through the internet?
[15:43] <ogre> is there a way to add a whole folder of music to my ipod using rhythmbox?
[15:43] <GleepGlop> qbmaniac: if you use NAT correctly
[15:44] <tylrd> qbmaniac--> rdp do yes
[15:44] <Caesi> thanks jrib & ubottu and all other guys.. bye
[15:44] <qbmaniac> ogre: i haven't been able to, at least not with itouch
[15:44] <amanu> danbh_intrepid:i will reboot now
[15:44] <JackPhil> where to find the old pkg?
[15:44] <amanu> i can get upto this "running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)" [ok]
[15:44] <qbmaniac> say at my house i set it up, opened 5900 in the firewall and set up a password... how would i set up a client connection from work?
[15:44] <murlidhar> amanu: after that what happens
[15:44] <amanu> after that shall i need to press ctrl+alt+f1
[15:44] <danbh_intrepid> amanu: yeah, get to that point, then try to get to the tty, then try the tasksel command: sudo tasksel install kubuntu-desktop
[15:44] <amanu> nothing juat a cursor blinkin
[15:44] <amanu> g
[15:44] <tylrd> qbmaniac--> google for vnc and rdp tutorials
[15:44] <Ven]n> qbmaniac, dont forget to open port in router
[15:45] <qbmaniac> Ven]n, i did so.
[15:45] <qbmaniac> let me look for some tutorials then
[15:45] <danbh_intrepid> amanu: if you can't login, then  what I'm saying is no good
[15:45] <amanu> danbh_intrepid:how to get tty
[15:45] <qbmaniac> because when i try  to connect, and press find, it says looking in localhost
[15:45] <qbmaniac> pff
[15:45] <amanu> danbh_intrepid:yes i cant see login screen
[15:46] <murlidhar> amanu: try the recover option and run fschk manually
[15:46] <amanu> danbh_intrepid:because i changed my desk as kde which was broken
[15:46] <danbh_intrepid> amanu: can you get to the tty?
[15:46] <amanu> murlidhar:how to try recover option?
[15:46] <murlidhar> amanu: ok do you see a cursor blinking ?
[15:47] <amanu> danbh_intrepid:tell me exactly how a tty look like?
[15:47] <amanu> murlidhar:yes i can see cursor blinking
[15:47] <murlidhar> amanu: type sudo tasksel install kubuntu-desktop
[15:47] <danbh_intrepid> amanu: black screen, white text, with a login prompt
[15:47] <amanu> after this line this "running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)" [ok]
[15:48] <amanu> danbh_intrepid:just like a terminal?
[15:48] <amanu> ok
[15:48] <danbh_intrepid> amanu: yeah
[15:48] <amanu> i will try
[15:48] <murlidhar> sigh!
[15:48] <murlidhar> :/
[15:48] <amanu> ok bye for now i will be back soon
[15:49] <albano> alguem ai
[15:49] <amanu> bye danbh_intrepid,murlidhar
[15:49] <murlidhar> can anybody help me setup my pixeltv pro card ? dmesg shows it as unknown/generic and lsmod loads the bttv driver
[15:49] <murlidhar> amanu: ok bye
[15:49] <ikonia> murlidhar is it supported ?
[15:49] <danbh_intrepid> amanu: cya later
[15:49] <murlidhar> ikonia: afaik it is
[15:50] <ikonia> murlidhar what makes you think it is ?
[15:50] <murlidhar> ikonia: this is the same lspci output i get as he is getting it here http://frodo.syminet.com/~deep/bttvlin.html
[15:50] <devsoul> pls help  , how to run in ubuntu lineage gracia :S
[15:50] <devsoul> with wine i have DirectX error
[15:51] <ikonia> murlidhar so whats the problem
[15:51] <NET||abuse1> just testing echo
[15:51] <telmich> hello
[15:51] <albano> valeu galera abraço
[15:51] <ikonia> !es | albano
[15:51] <prakash_> hello..need an alternative for windows movie maker in ubuntu
[15:51] <qbmaniac> ikonia, that wasnt spanish
[15:51] <qbmaniac> pff
[15:51] <Niek> is there an easy way to ask Ubuntu what download speed and what upload speed I am currently 'using' ?
[15:51] <telmich> I just installed ubuntu using the alternate cd; now there is no x11 running/gdm starting after install; what is the correct ubuntu way to get the normal graphical stuff running?
[15:52] <ikonia> qbmaniac: what was it
[15:52] <qbmaniac> either french or portugese
[15:52] <ikonia> !br | albano
[15:52] <LSD|Ninja> telmich: use a desktop CD :P
[15:52] <murlidhar> ikonia: i tried dmesg and i get get unknown/generic as he was getting it . he provided a solution but i am not able to make that solution work for myself
[15:52] <albano> #ubuntu-es
[15:52] <LSD|Ninja> telmich: seriously, alternate CDs are made of serious fail
[15:52] <telmich> LSD|Ninja: that would have taken some hours, because the installer was so slow
[15:52] <ikonia> murlidhar lcpci just works off a file it doesn't matter what that says
[15:52] <devsoul> some help me for run lineage2?
[15:52] <prakash_> can some one suggest me  an alternative for windows movie maker in ubuntu
[15:52] <albano> aL
[15:53] <murlidhar> ikonia: ok he has written on the page that he has pixelview pro tv which is same as mine
[15:53] <prakash_> can some one suggest me  an alternative for windows movie maker in ubuntu
[15:53] <ikonia> murlidhar: ok, so what's teh issue
[15:53] <ikonia> prakash_: ask once - then wait for a response
[15:54] <ikonia> prakash_: you've asked 3 times in 1 minute
[15:54] <jatt> hi I do have a 3com pci card (from an old pc) and want to use it in my laptop. Is there a HW device that allows to do this? Like a PCI->USB adapter?
[15:54] <danbh_intrepid> prakash_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Video%20Editors
[15:54] <Niek> is there an easy way to ask Ubuntu what download speed and what upload speed I am currently 'using' ?
[15:55] <prakash_> thnx...i'll check it out.....
[15:55] <murlidhar> ikonia: i did tvtime-scanner to scan the channels but it doesn't find any channels and dmesg show the card as unknown .
[15:55] <Odd-rationale> Niek: try : http://whatismyip.com/speedtest/index.asp
[15:55] <murlidhar> ikonia: this was my issue
[15:56] <murlidhar> prakash_: go to channel #ubuntu-bots and read the channel topic
[15:56] <keneda> man i'm having alot of problems with installing flash player in ubuntux64
[15:56] <keneda> i got quik on x32 but not on x64
[15:56] <ikonia> murlidhar is that the right driver for the card
[15:56] <ikonia> murlidhar are you using teh same exact model as him
[15:56] <keneda> is there an installer ??
[15:56] <Jeruvy> Niek: in admin -> system tools, system monitor, resources show network recv/send rates
[15:57] <keneda> so i could view flash website ??
[15:57] <murlidhar> ikonia: i even tuner is exactly the same . Philips PAL
[15:57] <murlidhar> ikonia: yes*
[15:57] <prakash_> danbh_intrepid:ya i tried  kino and avidmux tools
[15:58] <prakash_> danbh_intrepid:but they are not the simple
[15:58] <murlidhar> prakash_: my best bet would be to google for it " video editing tools in linux "
[15:58] <ikonia> murlidhar have you tried it with other TV applications
[15:59] <murlidhar> ikonia: yes xawtv and tvtime . and tvtime support bttv drivers . i just cross checked from their site .
[15:59] <Odd-rationale> prakash_: unfortunately, in my search, there is not a good, simple video editor for linux yet... the closes i could find is kdenlive... which is good when it works... :|
[15:59] <harveyd> Im looking to assign keyboard shortcuts that will focus particular applications, like pressing f1 to focus firefox
[15:59] <prakash_> danbh_intrepid:my requirement is to make a video out of my photos with some effects and a background audio...
[15:59] <danbh_intrepid> prakash_: and LiVES?
[15:59] <harveyd> anyone know if / how this is possible
[16:00] <prakash_> odd-rationale:ya..but kdenlive works rarely
[16:00] <prakash_> Lives ....i should try now
[16:00] <noodlesgc> prakash_ have you tried cinelerra?
[16:00] <VulKnO> OK ::: http://vulkno.blogspot.com/
[16:00] <murlidhar> harveyd: if using gnome then look in preference>keyboard shortcuts
[16:00] <ikonia> murlidhar contact the guy who wrote teh guide tehn, see if he can offer any advice
[16:01] <a_godumov> hi, is there somebody with iwl4965 wireless cards?
[16:01] <murlidhar> ikonia: k thanks:)
[16:01] <ikonia> a_godumov: just ask teh question
[16:01] <aleboco> hi guys. is there any way to limit my network interface to 11mb from the boot already?
[16:01] <irieKEN> Anyone know where the automagic kernels generation gets its drive# values from? It keeps generating my grub entries to boot from hd(2,0), making me have to change it to hd(0,0) every time I do a kernel update.
[16:01] <ikonia> murlidhar bit of a weak response I admit, but if he's got it working and wrote a guide he seems like a good start
[16:01] <prakash_> noodlesgc:ya.....but i am still looking for a simpler one..
[16:01] <a_godumov> OK
[16:01] <harveyd> mur, I am using gnome, but there isnt actions for these, if I know how to do it from bash it would be a good start
[16:01] <ikonia> aleboco iptables and qos
[16:01] <a_godumov> is it possible to create an ad hoc wireless network with the iwl4965 card?
[16:02] <a_godumov> because i`ve been trying to do that for the last week and i am almost desperate now
[16:02] <ikonia> a_godumov i don't believe many linux drivers will support that
[16:02] <a_godumov> why not?
[16:02] <a_godumov> and i think that the problems appeared ever since kernel 2.6.24
[16:02] <prakash_> noodlesgc:we promote ubuntu in our college...but regarding video editors ,students are expecting a tool which is as simple as windows movie maker
[16:02] <murlidhar> harveyd: actually i don't use gnome and i don't think it can be done using bash .
[16:03] <aleboco> ikonia, what? is it not possible with ifup?
[16:03] <a_godumov> before that i had a perfectly working ad hoc with a bcm4318 card and after that i just couldn`t get my ad hoc to work
[16:03] <noodlesgc> prakash_ try avidemux
[16:03] <prakash_> noodlesgc:thts the reason i am very particular about "simple"
[16:03] <ikonia> aleboco adhoc mode, thats not just bringing up the card
[16:03] <harveyd> im basically trying to tdo alt+tab but with predefined windows
[16:03] <a_godumov> no with kernel 2.6.26-1 i see the same error messages i got before
[16:03] <Rainmakr> blah
[16:03] <harveyd> no bother, cheers, nobody seems to know how to do this, it seems like it would be popular / useful functionality
[16:04] <a_godumov> the card works fine with network-manager in managed mode but i want to set up an ad hoc network
[16:04] <a_godumov> does anybody know how to do that?
[16:04] <philippe_> I have done a lot of print work with my VirtualBox Windows XP operating system. Now, when I want to print in Ubuntu, the printer is no longer detected. I have rebooted two times with no luck. In system/printer, printer is marked "off" when it is powered and connected. any idea?
[16:04]  * Rainmakr looks for food
[16:04]  * harveyd  wonders if im feeling brave enough to try writing it
[16:04]  * Rainmakr horny looks on people
[16:04]  * harveyd #gnome
[16:04] <ikonia> Rainmakr: stop please
[16:04] <jrib> harveyd: check into wmctrl
[16:04] <aleboco> ikonia, i understand. but i only need to force the card to be 11mb in whatever network
[16:05] <ikonia> aleboco ooh sorry, I thought you where asking about another question
[16:05] <ikonia> aleboco: iwconfig has a"rate" option
[16:05] <harveyd> that looks perfect, thanks
[16:05] <snot> I'm trying to install ubuntu server edition on a box of mine. However can't find dmraid on the cd... also I dont have dpkg in my path
[16:05] <snot> anyone know how I can activate ym raids?
[16:05] <ikonia> snot: I strongly advise against using fake raid
[16:05] <ikonia> snot: very strongly
[16:05] <snot> ikonia: it's hardware raid
[16:05] <aleboco> ikonia, i know that option. but does that mean that i cannot longer use k/networkmanager?
[16:06] <ikonia> snot raid on the motherboard ?
[16:06] <snot> ikonia: I usually just activate it with dmraid -ya
[16:06] <snot> ikonia: yes
[16:06] <ikonia> snot thats fake raid
[16:06] <ikonia> snot: that is not hardware raid
[16:06] <ikonia> aleboco not sure on that one
[16:06] <aleboco> ikonia, is there anyway to add something to rc.local?
[16:06] <Jeruvy> ikonia: fake raid?  you mean software raid.
[16:06] <ikonia> aleboco don 't see why not
[16:06] <snot> ikonia: I already configured my box with hardware raid (a second one as well)
[16:06] <ikonia> Jeruvy no, I mean fake raid
[16:07] <snot> ikonia: but I cant see it
[16:07] <ikonia> snot if your using hardware raid you don't need dmraid
[16:07] <aleboco> i'll try
[16:07] <Jeruvy> ikonia: elaborate please
[16:07] <aleboco> thanks
[16:07] <snot> ikonia: on debian etch I did
[16:07] <snot> ikonia: but what do I need then?
[16:07] <ikonia> snot then it's fake raid - not hardware raid
[16:07] <snot> ikonia: I belive you active them the same way
[16:07] <ikonia> Jeruvy fake raid is a cross between software and hardware raid
[16:07] <ikonia> snot no you don't
[16:07] <ikonia> snot your using fake raid
[16:08] <snot> I have two raided disk's showing and on my deb box they are visible in /dev/mapper/
[16:08] <ikonia> snot ?? that doesn't mean anything
[16:08] <jatt> Hi I have a laptop with internet connection and want to conect another computer to the laptop. Do I need two ethernet cards in the laptop?
[16:09] <Tundrayeti311> Can anyone help me w/ soundcore module or USB audio sound card?
[16:09] <snot> ikonia: so even though I go into the bios like menu for configuring raid devices and create a volumn by a given name and then later on activate that device using dmraid -ya... it's some sort of software raid?
[16:10] <harveyd> jrib: thank you loads
[16:10] <philippe_> jatt, most of people use router/switch for these kind of setup
[16:10] <hendra> hii
[16:10] <philippe_> jatt, but you can use two network card in the laptop yes
[16:10] <harveyd> ill just need to fiddle around with bash a bit I think
[16:10] <hendra> anyone installed 8.10?
[16:11] <hendra> << waiting for Intrepid Ibex
[16:11] <snot> anyone know how I can activate my hardware raid so I shows during the install?
[16:11] <BlackDesign> hendra, not yet... I'm waiting untill 30th october ;)
[16:11] <hendra> << Indonesian
[16:11] <hendra> oh
[16:11] <hendra> could I order t shipit?
[16:12] <BlackDesign> Not yet I guess
[16:12] <hendra> << Lil bit confuse using Gnome X Chat
[16:12] <BlackDesign> hendra, right now, only the Beta version is out ;)
[16:12] <hendra> generally using mIRC :p
[16:12] <trilobit`> hendra: get kvirc  It's friendlier
[16:12] <female> d
[16:12] <sempron> hei, I have a laptop with WLAN card. But the card is not activate, and the button for activate the card is broken. How can I activate the WLAN card? tnx :)
[16:12] <hendra> wew Beta
[16:13] <BlackDesign> or Xchat ;)
[16:13] <BoSJo> Hi all. I got a HTC Shift with a bad HD on it, so now i'm USB Stick with Ubuntu. HD is not visible in Partition Editor (Gparted
[16:13] <hendra> XCHat
[16:13] <snot> ikonia: you still there?
[16:13] <trilobit`> sempron: you mean you have a wifi card ?
[16:13] <BlackDesign> Lol, 2,8 seconds lag
[16:13] <hendra> Beta has lot bugs?
[16:13] <BoSJo> So any recomendations on what to do to try and save the HD?
[16:13] <sempron> ﻿trilobit: yes
[16:14] <ATA_Dark_Shadow> greetings, what would be the correct def locations of smtpd.conf and smtp for pam authentification ; usually it should be /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf and /etc/pam.d/smtp i would guess, what if they were not used by the system?
[16:14] <female> ehmmm..!!!
[16:14] <female> sf
[16:14] <trilobit`> sempron: show us what gives:  lspci | grep wifi
[16:15] <BlackDesign> hendra, Beta still has some bugs... Not that many
[16:15] <hendra> << using sudo wvdial :p
[16:15] <hendra> Oh
[16:15] <female_> ?
[16:15] <Pici> !ot
[16:15] <hendra> Intrepid Ibex
[16:16] <hendra> Jaunty Jacklope
[16:16] <art1st> hello. i need saslauthd - but i dont know which package it came with. trying to get postfix going with sasl
[16:16] <art1st> any idea
[16:16] <sempron> trilobit: that comando dosent work, noting happend
[16:16] <hendra> its english??
[16:16] <trilobit`> sempron: lspci doesn't work ?
[16:16] <Pici> !id | hendra
[16:17] <sempron> I copy and paste that you send, but noting happend when I ran it in terminal
[16:17] <KDB9000> Is there anyway to increase the hover time when moving files? Most the time when I am moving files, a cut across the Places pane and it touches network sometime and then my system slows down while it try to talk to Network Server and then just starts transferring to / (but fails).
[16:17] <ATA_Dark_Shadow> art1st do a "apt-cache search sasl |grep lib " and take the ones you need,
[16:17] <trilobit`> lspci | grep wifi
[16:17] <sploozer> I'm currently using tcpdump "tcpdump -i ethx -l -n | grep ICMP which is fine, but I will be outputting that to a file and I want to cat that dump files and displays any ICMP packets which do NOT have a matching sequence number, any ideas how to output manipulate that dump file with awk and sed ?
[16:17] <jatt> philippe_: thanks. I guess there are external network cards I can buy and connect to the usb ports of my laptop/
[16:18] <HenryHeron> Hi, can any one tell me if it is possible (& how to, if so) to install a program that has a '.sh' ending. I downloaded a Mathematica player that was for Linux... Thanks
[16:18] <sempron> should I run as sudo?
[16:18] <trilobit`> sempron: or just give "lspci" and see to find anything that relates to wireless in the list
[16:18] <hendra> << I cant join other chanel
[16:18] <maniheer> HenryHeron, sh filename.sh
[16:18] <Cerberus_> HenryHeron: sh ./filename.sh
[16:18] <Tundrayeti311> I have a USB sound card not being properly detected, and I'm not sure what step to take next for troubleshooting, can anyone help?
[16:19] <f190> hi i am trying to run the code "amixer set Master mute" everytime i log off, how would i approach this?
[16:19] <HenryHeron> maniheer: does this mean you do this in the terminal after cd <pathname>?
[16:19] <KDB9000> trilobit`, mine has it listed under Network controller for my wireless and Ethernet controller for the wired. Just an FYI
[16:20] <BlueEagle> Tundrayeti311: Which sound card are we talking about?
[16:20] <sempron> this happend when I paste it and ran it:    00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 Host Bridge (rev 01)
[16:20] <sempron> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge
[16:20] <sempron> 00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller
[16:20] <sempron> 00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller
[16:20] <sempron> 00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB2 Host Controller
[16:20] <FloodBot2> sempron: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:20] <sempron> 00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 SMBus Controller (rev 11)
[16:20] <maniheer> HenryHeron, yep
[16:20] <ikonia> FloodBot2: I would do that using a startup/shutdown ticket
[16:20] <ikonia> sciprt I mean
[16:20] <ikonia> ooh
[16:20] <Pici> ikonia: FloodBot2?
[16:20] <Tundrayeti311> BlueEagle: Lexicon Omega, it's supposed to be plug and play, and has worked before
[16:20] <RichiH> ikonia: FloodBot2 is.. a bot
[16:20] <ikonia> Pici: slag
[16:20] <ikonia> RichiH: I know
[16:20] <Pici> :)
[16:20] <HenryHeron> maniheer:Thanks, & are there other commands?
[16:20] <BlueEagle> Tundrayeti311: Do you know which module handles that card?
[16:21] <ikonia> f190: I would do that using a startup/shutdown init script
[16:21] <trilobit`> KDB9000: I'd guess it depends on the card itself then.
[16:21] <orehon>  just a random question... What is the best project and network to download music under linux?
[16:21] <Tundrayeti311> BlueEagle: yeah soundcore
[16:21] <maniheer> HenryHeron, of its insttallion
[16:21] <f190> ikonia, i am not too familiar with writing scrips and runlevels etc. can you instruct me on how to set this up?
[16:21] <maniheer> HenryHeron, if ur installing a program, u might want to use sudo
[16:21] <KDB9000> trilobit`, why, does your lcpci say wifi?
[16:21] <ikonia> !upstart | f190
[16:21] <keneda> ok
[16:21] <ikonia> !init | f190
[16:21] <keneda> i give up
[16:22] <HenryHeron> maniheer:& then the installer does the rest?
[16:22] <Shane|Work> Hello all, I have a Ubuntu Hardy VPS that seems to have lost it's modprobe command, is there a package I can aptitude reinstall to restore it?
[16:22] <f190> thanks ikonia
[16:22] <maniheer> HenryHeron, should do
[16:22] <keneda> can anyone tell me is there any flash player install for ubuntu x64 ???
[16:22] <keneda> please ???!!!
[16:22] <hendra> wew
[16:22] <ikonia> Shane|Work: how did you lose it
[16:22] <BlueEagle> Tundrayeti311: Have you confirmed that soundcore is loaded?
[16:22] <BlueEagle> Tundrayeti311: lsmod|grep soundcore
[16:22] <ikonia> keneda there isn't, but you can use the 32bit version
[16:22] <HenryHeron> maniheer:Thanks kindly!
[16:22] <keneda> i did try
[16:22] <Shane|Work> ikonia: I have no clue, I haven't added or removed any packages lately but i'm getting /bin/sh: modprobe: not found
[16:22] <ikonia> keneda: if you install the flashplugin-nonfree pakcage it will do it for you
[16:22] <keneda> it wouldn't work
[16:22] <maniheer> HenryHeron, no prob
[16:22] <Guest55887> Hi and good morniing guys, I need info about user management, where can I find some?
[16:22] <Shane|Work> and which modprobe returns nothing
[16:22] <sempron> the network controller is this:  Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[16:22] <trilobit`> KDB9000: Well, actually it did say "unknown" before and I had to compile a module for it myself.
[16:23] <ikonia> Shane|Work: first thing to do is do a find on the box for it
[16:23] <Tundrayeti311> BlueEagle: yes its loaded
[16:23] <keneda> two day and two nights
[16:23] <ikonia> keneda install the flashplugin-nonfree package
[16:23] <keneda> i have
[16:23] <ikonia> keneda: how did you install it
[16:23] <keneda> the screen goes gray that's it
[16:23] <trilobit`> sempron: you could do "dmesg | grep wifi" as well and see if anything shows up.
[16:23] <hendra> i heard suse 11 cant boot by ubuntu's grub
[16:23] <hendra> plan to quad boot
[16:23] <unop> Shane|Work, what does  echo $PATH  give you?
[16:23] <KDB9000> trilobit`, ah
[16:23] <ikonia> keneda: how did you install it
[16:24] <keneda> i followed the instructions
[16:24] <trilobit`> sempron: or "Wifi" instead of "wifi". Can't be sure, my laptop is at home.
[16:24] <snot> ikonia: no response?
[16:24] <keneda> i think
[16:24] <hendra> now using triple boot,xp leopard ubuntu :p
[16:24] <ikonia> snot response for what ?
[16:24] <Guest55887> Hi and good morniing guys, I need info about user management, where can I find some?
[16:24] <KDB9000> sempron, that is similar to mine.
[16:24] <keneda> right now i'm half awake
[16:24] <monster_night_ne> hi
[16:24] <ikonia> hendra mac os is not licensed to run on non-mac hardware
[16:24] <snot> ikonia: so even though I go into the bios like menu for configuring raid devices and create a volumn by a given name and then later on activate that device using dmraid -ya... it's some sort of software raid?
[16:24] <hendra> im using kalyway :p
[16:24] <Shane|Work> unop: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[16:24] <keneda> i just got my windows drive got mounted
[16:24] <monster_night_ne> you dont answer
[16:24] <ikonia> snot my advice is don't use fakeraid
[16:25] <snot> ikonia: but what should I use then?
[16:25] <ikonia> snot: that is a software raid called "fakeraid"
[16:25] <ikonia> snot: use software raid
[16:25] <monster_night_ne> ok
[16:25] <keneda> some how they ejected for some resome
[16:25] <monster_night_ne> bye
[16:25] <ikonia> snot: not fake raid
[16:25] <keneda> reson
[16:25] <unop> Shane|Work, hmm.  odd.  does this give you anything?  ls -l /sbin/modprobe
[16:25] <hendra> anyone tried suSE 11??
[16:25] <snot> ikonia: I dont get it, my mother board supports raid... why nmot use that?
[16:25] <sancho21> How to know, which apps eat my bandwith most?
[16:25] <ikonia> !offtopic | hendra
[16:25] <keneda> how do you reset the mount
[16:26] <hendra> wew
[16:26] <monsoon_king> hi all
[16:26] <ikonia> snot: because its fake raid, and thats a terrible technology, even worse in linux
[16:26] <keneda> because i still see the drives there
[16:26] <sempron> hmm, when I ran  it this happend:  server@server-laptop:~$ dmesg | grep wifi
[16:26] <sempron> server@server-laptop:~$
[16:26] <monster_night_ne> hello every body
[16:26] <keneda> but I can't access it
[16:26] <BlueEagle> Tundrayeti311: Is it listed in /proc/asound/cards
[16:26] <BlueEagle> ?
[16:26] <keneda> and there's dupes
[16:26] <snot> ikonia: ok
[16:26] <monsoon_king> what is the command to see my present DNS srvers and gateway in ubuntu?
[16:26] <KDB9000> sempron, what is the problem?
[16:26] <keneda> one i can't access
[16:26] <ikonia> monsoon_king: netstatn -rn
[16:26] <hendra> nslookup
[16:26] <trilobit`> sempron: try with "Wifi" (capital W) and see again ?
[16:26] <ikonia> nox-Hand: shows your gateay
[16:26] <ikonia> oops
[16:26] <hendra> CMIIW :p
[16:26] <ikonia> monsoon_king: shows your gateway
[16:27] <ikonia> monsoon_king: look in /etc/resolv.conf for your dns servers
[16:27] <unop> monsoon_king, cat /etc/resolv.conf  #for your DNS servers
[16:27] <Tundrayeti311> BlueEagle: no, lsusb shows it as "Texas Instrument" whichi find weird
[16:27] <keneda> i need to delete those but some how i don't have privilagages
[16:27] <f190> my multimedia keys function, but the mute color change has not been working. However, if i manually go to aumix or amixer and mute, the color changes. why is this?
[16:27] <keneda> blah blah
[16:27] <KDB9000> trilobit`, are you sure about that? I ran the commands in mine and came up with nothing. what kind of wifi card do you have in your laptop?
[16:27] <sempron> the same happend
[16:27] <keneda> hello ?
[16:28] <ikonia> keneda: what ?
[16:28] <keneda> scroll up
[16:28] <maniheer> !hi | keneda
[16:28] <trilobit`> KDB9000: athereos
[16:28] <ikonia> keneda: your just making random noise
[16:28] <keneda> i know
[16:28] <keneda> and my ubuntu is making random malfunction too
[16:28] <BlueEagle> Tundrayeti311: Would you mind trying to unload and reload the kernel module?
[16:28] <sternocera> Hi. I have a xubuntu system that will be used in an embedded installation...I want to remove all unnecessary packages. How can this be done? Thanks.
[16:29] <BlueEagle> Tundrayeti311: modprobe -r soundcore && modprobe soundcore
[16:29] <hendra> im lucky use ubuntu
[16:29] <ikonia> sternocera: use the package manager to remove the package
[16:29] <hendra> ubuntu detects my hardwares
[16:29] <keneda>  
[16:29] <KDB9000> trilobit`, it must act differently then. I have a broadcom like sampron
[16:29] <keneda> not mine
[16:29] <keneda> i have to force mine
[16:29] <keneda> i think mine is posses
[16:30] <nedwyn> gs
[16:30] <f190> ah i see why the colors are not changing on my multimedia keys. for some reason the keys adjust the PCM volume, rather than the master volume.
[16:30] <hendra> gOS is .deb??
[16:30] <keneda> i can't even watch you tube
[16:30] <nedwyn> I
[16:30] <hendra> anyone tried gOS?
[16:30] <keneda> but i can on hackintosh
[16:30] <nedwyn> hi
[16:30] <trilobit`> KDB9000: lol. You made me doubt myself, but here  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-478350.html  it's a reference that I remembered it correctly. Second post. :)
[16:31] <hendra> keneda,Im using Kalyway :p
[16:31] <nedwyn> alguem fla em portugues?
[16:31] <BlueEagle> !pt > nedwyn
[16:31] <Pici> hendra: You've been told more than once that this channel is only for Ubuntu support.  Please try to stay on topic.
[16:31] <nedwyn> oiiii
[16:31] <maniheer> oiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[16:31] <KDB9000> trilobit`, when you do an ifconfig or iwconfig what does it say your wireless is named?
[16:31] <Tundrayeti311> BlueEagle: Unfortunately I'm at work atm, so I can't, but I'll try that when I get home... ty for your help :)
[16:31] <ikonia> maniheer: stop it
[16:32] <hendra> oke
[16:32] <nedwyn> ke graça tem isso?
[16:32] <hendra> sorry
[16:32] <nedwyn> hehe
[16:32] <maniheer> nedwyn started it
[16:32] <keneda> ok
[16:32] <Shane|Work> ikonia: it seems somehow the ubuntu-minimal package and dependencies got removed, i'm reinstalling it now to see if that helps (i came to this idea by examining packages isntalled on my other box)
[16:32] <keneda> can some please
[16:32] <ikonia> maniheer: doesn't matter
[16:32] <keneda> please
[16:32] <keneda> help me out
[16:32] <Pici> !helpme
[16:32] <FloodBot2> keneda: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:32] <BlueEagle> Tundrayeti311: Also tail your /var/log/messages and grab what happens when you unplug and replug it.
[16:32] <maniheer> ikonia, lol :P
[16:32] <hendra> just ubuntu :p
[16:32] <keneda> oopps
[16:32] <keneda>  sowwie
[16:32] <nedwyn> ei kem sao v6?
[16:32] <ikonia> maniheer I'm not laughing
[16:32] <keneda> ok
[16:32] <BlueEagle> !pt | nedwyn
[16:32] <maniheer> ikonia, hard to see on an irc channel
[16:33] <tyberion> hey humm, how can I reset my audio device
[16:33] <keneda> ubuntu - kubuntu - ebuntu --- what are these variations ???
[16:33] <Uops> kde or gnome???
[16:33] <tyberion> any way to do so
[16:33] <tyberion> ?
[16:33] <keneda> i'm new
[16:33] <trilobit`> KDB9000: I can't test right now as my laptop is at home. But it showed "Athereos Wireless ar52(something) interface revision 01"
[16:33] <maniheer> Uops, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:33] <ikonia> Uops try them see what YOU like
[16:33] <hendra> is ipV6 makes internet connection slower?
[16:33] <ikonia> hendra: it can do
[16:33] <Shane|Work> unop: the ubuntu-minimal package gave me modprobe back
[16:33] <ikonia> hendra: if your not on an ipv6 network
[16:33] <BlueEagle> keneda: ubuntu uses gnome as it's default desktop. Kubuntu uses KDE and xubuntu uses xfce. As for edubuntu I'm not sure what's with it. For more information see ubuntu.org, kubuntu.org, xubuntu.org and edubuntu.org
[16:34] <slashzul> are there any native ubuntu programs similar to itunes?
[16:34] <hendra> im not
[16:34] <slashzul> I want to listen to streaming music
[16:34] <mib_b4blih> While using OpenSSH there are two private key locations: one at /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key and the other at ~/.ssh/id_rsa Which one is being used?
[16:34] <hendra> Ubuntu's default is ipv6?? CMIIW
[16:34] <KDB9000> trilobit`, well like i said, i ran your commands on my laptop with a broadcom and nothing shows up
[16:34] <keneda> bleu --- simple english .. i'm still trying to learn the lingo
[16:34] <keneda> again please
[16:34] <ikonia> mib_b4blih the one in your home dir is your personal one, the other is the host machine
[16:34] <BlueEagle> mib_b4blih: Both. ssh_host is the host key while id_rsa is the client key.
[16:34] <ikonia> hendra no - ubuntu has ipv6 modules installed by default
[16:34] <trilobit`> KDB9000: I'm sure it depends on the card as that's what I used to make mine functional. It was a HAL issue.
[16:35] <mib_b4blih> ikonia: So there are two sshds running: one for me and one for the host machine?
[16:35] <hendra> oh
[16:35] <ikonia> mib_b4blih: no
[16:35] <BlueEagle> mib_b4blih: ie. the client key is what you provide when accessing other ssh servers and the server key is what is used when others connect to your server.
[16:35] <ikonia> mib_b4blih: one damone
[16:35] <KDB9000> trilobit`, i see, what was his issue (he left it looks like)
[16:35] <ikonia> mib_b4blih: multiple keys
[16:35] <Tundrayeti311> BlueEagle: I can tell you that this happens from syslog: Oct  1 19:56:51 user-desktop kernel: [  165.080770] usb 1-4: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 5 Oct  1 19:56:52 user-desktop kernel: [  165.292689] usb 1-4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Oct  1 19:56:52 user-desktop NetworkManager: <debug> [1222909012.179232] nm_hal_device_added(): New device added (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devi
[16:35] <tyberion> can any1 tell me how I can reset my audio device?
[16:35] <keneda> Bleu --- i don't know what is the diff from the rest
[16:36] <BlueEagle> tyberion: What do you mean by "reset" it?
[16:36] <teamr> sup biatches
[16:36] <regeya> o-O
[16:36] <ikonia> teamr: your language is not acceptable
[16:36] <regeya> >-<
[16:36] <teamr> ...
[16:36] <maniheer> tyberion, restart PC
[16:36] <mib_b4blih> ikonia: So depending on who I login as, the daemon uses a different private key?
[16:36] <maniheer> tyberion, :P
[16:36] <Ward1983> if i set my interfaces with /etc/networking/interfaces it doesnt work, and if i do it with ifconfig and iwconfig it does work, what can be my problem? i know the lines in /etc/networking/interfaces are all correct
[16:36] <trilobit`> KDB9000: Most probably the interface was not showing up at all. I would have gone first to update the pci database of periferics signatures (can't remember the command for that) and then getting a newer madwifi tarball.
[16:36] <ikonia> mib_b4blih: no and yes
[16:36] <tyberion> no other way? it says audi device is busy"(
[16:36] <ikonia> mib_b4blih: one moment
[16:36] <tyberion> audio* that is
[16:36] <mib_b4blih> ikonia: Yes..
[16:37] <sempron> my internett disconected : (     someone who have answar on why my wifi card isnt activated?
[16:37] <hendra> how to disappear verbose mode on ubuntu's boot?
[16:37] <ikonia> mib_b4blih: http://hell.org.ua/Docs/oreilly/tcpip2/ssh/index.htm
[16:37] <keneda> is there anyone here that is not that bz that could educate me a little ??
[16:37] <maniheer> tyberion, anything important running?
[16:37] <keneda> i'm not asking much
[16:37] <keneda> jus ta little time
[16:37] <KDB9000> sempron, take a look at this. it helped me with my broadcom 4311 wifi card. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Hardy
[16:37] <ikonia> keneda you can ask ubuntu specific questions and the channel will respond
[16:37] <ATA_Dark_Shadow> greetings, postfix/saslauthd problem, what would be the correct locations for the default install : /etc/pam.d/smtp and /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf ; both are ignored from the system, any idea where i could look?
[16:37] <tyberion> maniheer: nah not at all... but I had that problem several times now..
[16:37] <tylrd> Ward1983--> did you ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 after you modified your interfaces file?
[16:38] <hendra> ???
[16:38] <regeya> !ask | keneda
[16:38] <BlueEagle> Tundrayeti311: Sorry. I'm drawing blank on that log. :/
[16:38] <Ward1983> tylrd, i jsut rebooted to be sure
[16:38] <mib_b4blih> ikonia: Will try to see if I can find the answer there
[16:38] <maniheer> tyberion, have u got more than one program trying to get to the audio
[16:38] <KDB9000> trilobit`, with mine it was a case of the legacy drivers being used, just needed to update the firmware and used the new b34 driver and it works
[16:38] <ikonia> mib_b4blih maybe easier to get a grips with the basics
[16:38] <tylrd> Ward1983--> and what happens after a reboot?
[16:38] <tyberion> maniheer: everything closed..
[16:38] <KDB9000> trilobit`, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Hardy if you want to take a look
[16:38] <mib_b4blih> ikonia: But I thought a private key is like an "identity". How can a host be schizophrenic!!
[16:38] <keneda> ubuntu what is the difference between ubuntu - kubuntu-xubuntu-edubuntu
[16:38] <keneda> there
[16:39] <regeya> o/~ oh my bucket's got a hole in it o/~
[16:39] <BlueEagle> keneda: Asked and answered.
[16:39] <ikonia> mib_b4blih a private key is a per user key
[16:39] <Tundrayeti311> BlueEagle: np :) ty for help
[16:39] <BlueEagle> keneda: ubuntu uses gnome as it's default desktop. Kubuntu uses KDE and xubuntu uses xfce. As for edubuntu I'm not sure what's with it. For more information see ubuntu.org, kubuntu.org, xubuntu.org and edubuntu.org
[16:39] <ikonia> mib_b4blih: so the server will authenticate the key on a per user basis
[16:39]  * regeya says "whoops, wrong channel, where's the cahnnel undo button"
[16:39] <BlueEagle> Tundrayeti311: Wasn't much. :/
[16:39] <ikonia> mib_b4blih: the host key is for host based authentication
[16:39] <keneda> ubuntu what is KDE ?
[16:39] <maniheer> ubuntu = gnome kubuntu=KDE xubuntu=XFCE edubuntu=gnome with school stuff
[16:39] <regeya> !kde
[16:39] <BlueEagle> keneda: KDE is another desktop manager.
[16:39] <keneda> ubuntu what is xfce
[16:39] <DJones> !kde > keneda
[16:39] <ikonia> keneda: you may do well to read http://www.ubuntu.com to udnerstand the basics
[16:39] <maniheer> !xfce
[16:39] <regeya> keneda:  http://www.kde.org/
[16:39] <keneda> ooohhhh
[16:39] <keneda> now i'm learning
[16:40] <trilobit`> KDB9000: I'm sure it's different for athereos interfaces, for me it was  AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[16:40] <keneda> desktop manager is also known as shell ???
[16:40] <mib_b4blih> ikonia: So when I connect to the daemon somehow does it resolve the correct key through my username or hostname?
[16:40] <keneda> yes / no ?
[16:40] <ikonia> mib_b4blih: user
[16:40] <Pici> keneda: no.
[16:40] <keneda> ok
[16:40] <ikonia> keneda: read www.ubuntu.com to get an introduction to ubuntu
[16:40] <maniheer> keneda, desktop manager = wallpaper and maybe icons
[16:40] <Pici> keneda: The Desktop Manager is the graphical environment.
[16:40] <keneda> ahhhhh
[16:41] <InetKen> Is DVD burning broken in Hardy?
[16:41] <keneda> i was thinkin of that
[16:41] <mib_b4blih> ikonia: thats the one in ~/.ssh/id_rsa right?
[16:41] <KDB9000> trilobit`, ya, just about every card manufacture will be different
[16:41] <ikonia> mib_b4blih correct
[16:41] <BlueEagle> keneda: A desktop manager handles the window placement and decorations along with (in most cases) panels where clocks, menus and minimized windows are shown.
[16:41] <keneda> but different thing came out
[16:41] <ikonia> mib_b4blih but thats your private key - not public key
[16:41] <hendra> Tried install KDE
[16:41] <hendra> My ubuntu become Kubuntu :D
[16:41] <maniheer> BlueEagle, thats a window manager
[16:41] <keneda> is red hat still the same as ubuntu
[16:41] <mib_b4blih> ikonia: Yes. I know.
[16:41] <mib_b4blih> ikonia: So when does it use the private key in the /etc/ssh/ ?
[16:41] <maniheer> keneda, no, redhat is crap
[16:41] <keneda> i know ubuntu is linux
[16:42] <mib_b4blih> ikonia: The "host" private key
[16:42] <ikonia> mib_b4blih: thats not the private key
[16:42] <ikonia> mib_b4blih: for host based authentication
[16:42] <BlueEagle> keneda: For example when you start windows the first explorer.exe instance acts as a desktop manager displaying icons and the start menu and the toolbar.
[16:42] <keneda> ok
[16:42] <keneda> so red hat is like dos or windows 3.1
[16:42] <ikonia> keneda: no
[16:42] <mib_b4blih> ikonia: Meaning which hosts to trust?
[16:42] <ikonia> keneda: ubuntu discussion only please
[16:42] <keneda> ok
[16:42] <ikonia> mib_b4blih: thats it
[16:42] <BlueEagle> keneda: Ahh, as maniheer correctly pointed out. The correct name for it is "window manager", not desktop manager as I said.
[16:42] <Pici> keneda: ##linux exists for general linux support.
[16:42] <keneda> just trying to figure out the evolution of linux
[16:43] <keneda> thats all
[16:43] <mib_b4blih> ikonia: But the file is between Begin & End Private Key markers
[16:43] <ikonia> keneda: read www.ubuntu.com for an overview
[16:43] <mib_b4blih> ikonia: the one in /etc/ssh
[16:43] <ikonia> mib_b4blih: yes, thats right
[16:43] <ikonia> mib_b4blih: it's a host based key
[16:43] <BlueEagle> keneda: Do you mind if I send you some private messages?
[16:43] <keneda> hit me
[16:43] <mib_b4blih> ikonia: Can you please be a little more clear on host based authentication?
[16:43] <InetKen> I've made several CD and DVD coasters, only help I could find online points to kernel upgrade.
[16:43] <emorris> hi, with zenity --list --checklist, is there a way to make the options selected by default?
[16:43] <ikonia> mib_b4blih: it's just an extra layer on top of user based auth
[16:44] <cferriby> hoe can i change the folder properties of a partition i have mounted in /data its is basically what my home folder is. i would also like to link it to my home folder so that that is my home folder
[16:44] <sysdoc> Firefox in 2 x sessions gives the error "Firefox is already running...etc" Removing the .parentlock file allows it to open in both sessions, but only once. does anyone know how to remove this file permanently, because on open the file is recreated? Or is there a way to have the x session open a different profile?
[16:44] <ikonia> sysdoc rm the file
[16:44] <ikonia> sysdoc: it's in your home dir
[16:44] <mib_b4blih> ikonia: So how does the authentication work? The host based one.
[16:45] <ikonia> mib_b4blih same as keys, your client has a key, the server has a key and you can say only authenticate X clients
[16:45] <InetKen> Brasero and K3b both fail and slowing writing down to 4x doesn't help.
[16:45] <ikonia> mib_b4blih: all covered in the link I sent you as this is nothing to do with ubuntu support
[16:45] <sysdoc> ikonia: the file is recreated once firefox is opened
[16:45] <Vlad> hi all i have a problem with ubuntu
[16:45] <ikonia> sysdoc: thats right
[16:46] <mib_b4blih> ikonia: Thanks
[16:46] <sysdoc> Needing a workaround to have a different profile or ???
[16:46] <ikonia> sysdoc: /join #firefox
[16:46] <sysdoc> Yea there ya go
[16:47] <emorris> never mind, TRUE and FALSE
[16:47] <ikonia> sysdoc: someone (developers in there) may know ?
[16:47] <Vlad> i installed ubuntu on my macbook following the famous "macbook on ubuntu" guide, re-fit find my linux partition, i select it, the screen becomes white with the tux image and no more.
[16:47] <Vallhalla81> Vlad please ask your question
[16:47] <harveyd> ok,, very close to getting this working
[16:47] <KDB9000> When a drag files over the Network Servers (to another window) it pauses while it is trying to find the network servers and then starts transferring after a while to /. how can i stop this from happening and still keep the places pane up?
[16:47] <harveyd> ﻿wmctrl -i -a "$(wmctrl -l | awk '/Firefox/ {print $1; exit}')" works fine from command line
[16:48] <harveyd> but when I set it to a keyboard shortcut in gconf editor, it doesnt, unless I dont use the $()
[16:48] <UbuntuDrummerBoy> Can Edubuntu be installed w/ the Kubuntu package?
[16:48] <ikonia> UbuntuDrummerBoy yup
[16:49] <test_> ey people, whre is the history log of installed files, that show synaptic when you see the history in the first menu of the app?
[16:49] <ikonia> test_ dpkg.log
[16:49] <UbuntuDrummerBoy> ikonia thanks, you just install the kubuntu first than the edubuntu education package afterward?
[16:49] <Vlad> did anyone installed ubuntu on macbook using re-fit, here?
[16:49] <ikonia> UbuntuDrummerBoy yup
[16:49] <cferriby> hoe can i change the folder properties of a partition i have mounted in /data its is basically what my home folder is. i would also like to link it to my home folder so that that is my home folder
[16:49] <test_> dpkg.log ikonia whre it is located?
[16:49] <ikonia> test_: /var/log
[16:49] <test_> thx ikonia
[16:49] <emorris> UbuntuDrummerBoy: install Edubuntu, then from System>Administration>Synaptic Package Manager, then install the package called kubuntu-desktop
[16:50] <test_> also other question, what directories apart of /home/usr is important to backup in you gonna reinstall?
[16:50] <ikonia> test_ thats it
[16:50] <test_> if* instead of in
[16:50] <ikonia> test_: unless you want global configs
[16:50] <allen54> .
[16:50] <trilobit`> cferriby: before you had your home folder in /data and that's where you have mounted your new partition now ?
[16:50] <test_> OK
[16:50] <emorris> cferriby: don't do this, change the options in /etc/fstab
[16:50] <test_> thx ikonia
[16:51] <UbuntuDrummerBoy> I thought you had to select a base install first now w/ the newest install then the education package next?
[16:51] <test_> people, if I use now the beta versoin, do I need to download again in a month?
[16:51] <test_> or the updates will maintain it?
[16:51] <ikonia> test_ depends if things break
[16:52] <ikonia> test_: 8.10 support is in #ubuntu+1
[16:52] <trilobit`> test_: most probably the updates will replace what will be obsoleted and will replace the necessary parts.
[16:52] <cferriby> i redid my computer with a duel boot with ubuntu being my main os and xp as another so i wanted to have my home folder and my mydocuments folder be a separate shared fat32 partition
[16:54] <Awsoonn> via cli how can i output the first 100 lines of a file?
[16:54] <ikonia> Awsoonn head -100
[16:54] <trilobit`> Awsoonn: head -100 filename
[16:54] <Awsoonn> wow, i knew it would be simple.. but yea... awesome! THanks!
[16:54] <keneda> can you play games on ubuntu ?
[16:54] <idolo> O.o
[16:54] <idolo> ure u can
[16:55] <ikonia> keneda there are limited linux games
[16:55] <keneda> really
[16:55] <keneda> wow
[16:55] <UbuntuDrummerBoy> Does Edubuntu have content filtering for the Internet?  If so, what packages are being used?
[16:55] <Pici> !games | keneda
[16:55] <keneda> so emulation then right
[16:55] <emorris> keneda: you could try wine
[16:55] <genii> UbuntuDrummerBoy: I'm pretty sure it uses DansGuardian
[16:55] <trilobit`> I can play Spore with Wine!
[16:55] <keneda> wow ... this is really going and gonna piss bill gates
[16:56] <ikonia> keneda mind your language please
[16:56] <keneda> oh sowwie
[16:56] <test_> /var/log/dpkg.log will be enoug for get again the applications?
[16:56] <test_> how I will import it?
[16:56] <ikonia> keneda: if you read http://www.ubuntu.com as I suggested you'll get solid overview
[16:56] <InetKen> Any input on CD/DVD burning problems?
[16:56] <keneda> just just speak my mind alot
[16:56] <test_> so taht synaptic open the log and get again the apps
[16:56] <idolo> keneda:  well u can play games when u emolete them with supported programs for ubuntu
[16:56] <harveyd> ok, very close to getting this working, got 2 commands both work fine from shell, only one works when set as a keyboard shortcut
[16:56] <harveyd> http://pastebin.me/48ecd7b2c9182
[16:57] <keneda> i try to censor it
[16:58] <idolo> ok c ya guys
[16:58] <UbuntuDrummerBoy> genii: Does it ask you to set it up during the install or is it somehting you go find and have to mess w/?
[16:58] <idolo> bu-bye
[16:58] <UbuntuDrummerBoy> anyone else on Internet content filtering.  What does Edubuntu/Kubuntu/Ubuntu use?
[16:59] <Vlad> hi all i have a problem with ubuntu + refit. here is my  gpt and mbr tables: http://pastebin.ca/1222824  can anyone help me please???
[16:59] <dugas> Hi everybody.
[16:59] <InetKen> UbuntuDrummerBoy, I normally use a separate box with Dan's Guardian.  e.g. Ipcop firewall/content filter.
[16:59] <cheeky_> morning i was curiouse if there is a text editor that can have its backgrough tranparents like how the terminal can become transparent, i use gedit to write my java code ; does anyone know if ged it or any other editor has that functionality?
[17:00] <InetKen> UbuntuDrummerBoy, you could also build a box with Ubuntu, Squid, Dan's Guardian
[17:00] <ikonia> cheeky_: eterm and standard gnome-terminal can be transparant
[17:00] <InetKen> UbuntuDrummerBoy, I only say this because it is memory hungry.
[17:01] <basso> Anyone used the Matrox Dualhead2GO on ubuntu?
[17:01] <dugas> hi, i have an ide hard drive, connected to my computer via usb; this hard drive is formatted as hfs+ and it is being detected in my logs, but i cant mount it.
[17:01] <biggerfisch> does anyone know where is the KDE4 config file is? I cant log in with kde4 because the desktop effects broke my desktop
[17:01] <cheeky_> ikonia, yeah i know i have my terminal set up to be transparent but iam talking about gedit going transparent ?
[17:01] <ikonia> cheeky_ no it can't
[17:02] <UbuntuDrummerBoy> InetKen:  right now I'm using Gentoo and is a pain to maintain.  Single box.  Want to install Kubuntu w/ the Edubuntu ed pacakage.  but absolutely need content filtering over the internet just on that one box.
[17:03] <genii> dugas: hfsplus and hfsutils packages. You also need to load the kernel driver afterwards for it.
[17:03] <cheeky_> ikonia, is there an editor that has such capability ?>
[17:03] <maquina17> hi
[17:03] <dugas> genii, i have both of those installed, how do i load the kernel driver for it ?
[17:03] <InetKen> UbuntuDrummerBoy, there is a How-To for single desktop Dan's Guardian in the Ubuntu forums.
[17:03] <jim_p> cheeky_: nano on a transparent terminal :P
[17:03] <maquina17> i cant stay in thegain for 2min
[17:03] <UbuntuDrummerBoy> InetKen/ can you give me a link?
[17:04] <flourish> hello, i have a question about apache , can i ask here?
[17:04] <InetKen> UbuntuDrummerBoy, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=207008
[17:04] <jim_p> flourish: yea
[17:04] <genii> dugas: The exact module name I'm not sure. But syntax is like:   sudo modprobe hfs           or so. You can find the exact name of it by:  modprobe -l|grep hfs
[17:05] <dugas> thanks genii, ill check that out.
[17:05] <maquina17> some where talk spanish?
[17:05] <genii> dugas: np
[17:05] <trilobit`> !es
[17:05] <qbmaniac> ubuntu-es
[17:05] <qbmaniac> maquina entra a #ubuntu-es
[17:05] <qbmaniac> ahi te explican
[17:05] <InetKen> No takers on my CD/DVD burning woes?  Man I would hate having to have an XP dual boot just for this problem.
[17:05] <keneda> hey hey hey i learn alot from Blue --- thanks Blue for the 411
[17:06] <InetKen> That or use my old Ubuntu box.
[17:06] <lbo_ken> hi every body , im wodering where ic ould find the step by step to make a tri-boot  xp, vista and ubuntu  that its sure to work  ( im rebuilding my pc  beside the partition and xp installed nothing is installed yet
[17:06] <keneda> is there anyone here that can advice me about asus eee pc and asus eee box ??? please
[17:06] <flourish> Thanks, I want to log my server's log to a new one every month, that is this month is access.log.Oct and next month is access.log.Nov; as i known i can accomplish this by rotatelogs, but ..
[17:06] <Vinay_> hello all - in hardy, does gnome or kde desktop accept password for super user mode? They both seem to reject correct password.
[17:06] <cheeky_> jim_p, true m8 but then again i would like my syntax highlighting and my tab scroll
[17:06] <Myrtti> Vinay_: there isn't supposed to be a superuser (ie. root) password
[17:07] <jim_p> cheeky_: gvim?
[17:07] <sempron> how can I login as root?
[17:07] <Myrtti> Vinay_: have you set up such in your system?
[17:07] <Myrtti> !root | sempron
[17:07] <Vinay_> Myrtti - I can login with ssh in root user
[17:07] <flourish> but the number of certain month is not fixed, so how can i implement it
[17:07] <flourish> ?
[17:07] <Myrtti> Vinay_: have you set up a password for root?
[17:07] <genii> Vinay_: Aside from the system itself having root locked out, X normally won't let you run as root anyways by default
[17:07] <Myrtti> Vinay_: there is no root password.
[17:07] <cheeky_> jim_p, never heard of it .. have to let you know i am just starting out on linux so not  that familiar with programs
[17:08] <jim_p> cheeky_: you can give it a change if you are good with vim
[17:08] <trilobit`> flourish: you already should have it there access.log and access.log1 right ?
[17:08] <keneda> nopes no one can advice ? hmmm wierd so many smart one but none can spare advice ...
[17:08] <keneda> >;-)
[17:08] <InetKen> Vinay_, ssh as user then sudo su -
[17:08] <Vinay_> Myrtti - is X root user different from root user in ssh
[17:08] <FreshPrince> hum
[17:09] <FreshPrince> i've installed the flashplayer but i can't watch videos on firefox? why that?
[17:09] <flourish> trilobit`: yes, but i can't find how this happens
[17:09] <Vinay_> I am trying to use NX to get gui working for admin
[17:09] <keneda> fresh ... same here
[17:09] <keneda> are you runing x64
[17:09] <jim_p> keneda: can you repeat the question?
[17:09] <keneda> ubuntu
[17:09] <sempron> but when I try to open the partition I can not do someting because the owner is Root
[17:10] <sempron> what can I do with that?
[17:10] <kbrosnan> FreshPrince: you may have conflicting flash players, uninstall gnash or swfdec players
[17:10] <keneda> jim -- are you familiar with asus eee pc and asus eee box ?
[17:10] <jim_p> sempron: what partition?
[17:10] <flourish> I do not know the way apache does
[17:10] <jim_p> keneda: no, but i am familiar with non working hardware due to the lack of some module
[17:11] <trilobit`> flourish: I'd have a look at /etc/cron.*/ directories
[17:11] <keneda> jim --- on what system >
[17:11] <mgolisch> keneda: whats the problem?
[17:11] <trilobit`> flourish: I'm no cron expert, but there lie cron jobs for several parts of the system and there are several scripts that take care of different jobs there. One of them is apache related.
[17:11] <jim_p> keneda: on any system! tell me and i will look it up
[17:11] <cheeky_> jim_p, i should but i only tried vim once .. and kinda had trouble so i stuck with nano .. and now gedit .. oh wel
[17:12] <keneda> ﻿mgolisch: -- i'm thinkn of buying one
[17:12] <jim_p> cheeky_: me too, stuck with nano
[17:12] <cheeky_> jim_p, hehe
[17:12] <flourish> trilobit`: thanks , i will do some search there
[17:12] <mgolisch> keneda: http://www.array.org/ubuntu/source.html  the guy there maintains a special kernel for the eeepc with support for all stuff, works well here
[17:12] <jim_p> keneda: please use jim_p as my name to make my taskbar blonk and me to look
[17:13] <mgolisch> wlan,bluetooth,sound,lan had no problems yet, hardy runs fine on my 1000h
[17:13] <beshrkayali> hello, any dude from Syria in here?
[17:13] <keneda> so which one should i get
[17:13] <bingung> hello, anyone can help me out with opera irc chat issues pls ?
[17:13] <keneda> box or the notebook
[17:14] <basso> Anyone used the Matrox Dualhead2GO on ubuntu?
[17:14] <Tundrayeti311> !enter > keneda
[17:14] <bustaplz> What is the best way method for installing the latest nvidia drivers for a 8800GTS on 8.04. I've tried running the .run package from nvidia and using the System > Admin > Hardware Drivers and both cause me to boot into Low Graphics mode and then get a black screen.
[17:14] <keneda> sorry
[17:14] <trilobit`> flourish: What you need probably lies in  /etc/logrotate.d
[17:14] <alicev> hallo i cant install pctv dvdb-t stick solo on 8.04
[17:14] <alicev> how can i inst.
[17:14] <alicev> ?
[17:14] <bingung> hello, anyone can help me out with opera irc chat issues pls ?
[17:15] <keneda> ok brb
[17:15] <Tundrayeti311> !repeat > bingung
[17:15] <kaii> bustaplz: rename your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.busta, install the .run package and do a reboot then.
[17:15] <flourish> trilobit`: I have seen /etc/logrotate.d/apache2 before , but i can not understand the file
[17:15] <jim_p> bustaplz: this is the wrong way. use apt instead and insert a Driver entry in xorg.conf
[17:15] <Kemon> How do I hide shares on Desktop?
[17:15] <lbo_ken> can anyone tell me a website where i can find the process to do to have  a trip boot xp vista and linux ?
[17:16] <bingung> sorry
[17:16] <jim_p> lbo_ken: do you have all of them installed now?
[17:16] <flourish> trilobit`: i do not know the meaning of the items list in brace
[17:16] <Kemon> Problem with booting Linux and Windows?
[17:16] <FreshPrince> kbrosnan: those are not installed, both of them
[17:16] <FreshPrince> :(
[17:16] <bustaplz> Right now I'm using what amounts to I guess default install. It works but I have no 3d. I've used the .run package several times and can NOT get it to work right.
[17:16] <lbo_ken> not yet i wanted    to have the process to do it before i just installed xp so far
[17:16] <jim_p> bingung: can you mention the problem?
[17:16] <trilobit`> flourish: then "man logrotate" will explain you far more than I could.
[17:16] <bustaplz> I think I've tried using aptitude installing nvidia-glx-new
[17:16] <lbo_ken> cause ik now there is a way i saw few montsh ago about using   vista bootloader
[17:16] <Ash-Fox> How does one disable ALSA's OSS (/dev/dsp) compatability?
[17:17] <bustaplz> can not get any drivers to function right
[17:17] <kbrosnan> FreshPrince: as was asked above are you on a 64 bit os?
[17:17] <FreshPrince> kbrosnan: no on x86
[17:17] <jim_p> bustaplz: the "normal" way is to use apt and not the .run from nvidia
[17:17] <beshrkayali> okay... can i install ubuntu i3??   on amd athlon x2?
[17:17] <kbrosnan> FreshPrince: does the flash plugin show up on tools -> addons-> plugins?
[17:18] <jim_p> kbrosnan: nope. it shows in about:plugins i think
[17:18] <Ash-Fox> How does one disable ALSA's OSS (/dev/dsp) compatability? - Currently I'm resorting to a very bad cronjob that chmods /dev/dsp to 000 on boot.
[17:18] <trilobit`> flourish: Also, it seems the logs are rotated weekly by default. What you could do is change weekly with monthly and then a simple cronjob to rename them with .month extension.
[17:18] <bingung> anyone using opera ?
[17:18] <kaii> Ash-Fox: insert "blacklist alsa-oss" into /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[17:18] <slashzul> are there any native ubuntu programs similar to itunes?
[17:18] <flourish> trilobit`: Oh, yes.^_^ I have read the manual about rotatelogs, it amazeing to have another command --- logrotate^_^
[17:18] <jim_p> bingung: me!!!
[17:18] <Ash-Fox> kaii, cheers!
[17:18] <slashzul> to stream in music?
[17:18] <beshrkayali> can i?
[17:18] <jim_p> slashzul: songbird and amarok
[17:19] <bingung> jim_p : can u chat irc with opera ?
[17:19] <slipp3d> anyone trying out the beta ??? I'm wondering why i'm hanging
[17:19] <trilobit`> flourish: I'd just replace weekly with monthly and then just rename the files. :)
[17:19] <kaii> Ash-Fox: its "snd_pcm_oss" not "alsa-oss"
[17:19] <jim_p> bingung: is there an option for it? i dont think there is
[17:19] <slashzul> amarok only downloads/uploads music. what about something to listen like a radio station in itunes?
[17:19] <Ash-Fox> kaii, I was about to say, couldn't see it in /proc/modules - cheers again :)
[17:20] <jim_p> slashzul: amarok can do that too.
[17:20] <jasuus> does anyone else think gnucash blows
[17:20] <kaii> Ash-Fox: an do a "sudo rmmod -f snd_pcm_oss" or reboot your system then.
[17:20] <bingung> jim_p : when i'm using windows, there's option mail and chat in opera, but in ubuntu, the options is removed, is it true ?
[17:20] <jim_p> slashzul: you must know the url though
[17:21] <jim_p> bingung: i know about the mail option, never seen the chat one
[17:21] <flourish> trilobit`: Thanks a lot. This is much more better than use the rotatelogs command.
[17:21] <jim_p> bingung: can you point me where it is?
[17:21] <TeamR> hey. anyone know how to add a server, but use a specific port in xchat?
[17:21] <xbxbxb> when I plug in a network cable to one of my 2 network cards, how do I find out to which card I have plugged it (eth0 or eth1)?
[17:22] <FreshPrince> kbrosnan: well if i go to the add-ons he gives me an error: (Fehlercode: sec_error_expired_certificate)
[17:22] <bingung> jim_p : u can see in the tools - mail and chat accounts, in windows, in chat account we can connect to irc with the chat account, but i'm new in ubuntu, just wandering, if this is normal or what
[17:22] <trilobit`>  What does this message mean?   TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 212.55.221.162:25/1612 shrinks window 3807174802:3807176215. Repaired.
[17:22] <jim_p> bingung: let me take a closer look!
[17:23] <bingung> jim_p : u can see in the tools - mail and chat accounts --- in ubuntu is disable  and unclickable
[17:23] <bingung> jim_p : ok
[17:23] <jim_p> bingung: what opera version do you have?
[17:23] <kbrosnan> FreshPrince: how about going to the plug-ins tab
[17:23] <bingung> jim_p : opera 9.27
[17:24] <bustaplz> okay sorry i lost connection
[17:24] <jim_p> bingung: yea i found it there it is. please upgrade to todays opera 9.60
[17:24] <bustaplz> jim_p: still there?
[17:24] <bingung> jim_p : are u using 9.60 and the chat account clickable ?
[17:24] <shubbar> what does user 99 mean?
[17:24] <Babylykke> Anyone here that can recommend me a program similar to Adobe Bridge/Lightroom that can handle NEF (raw) files, please?
[17:25] <jim_p> bustaplz: you go to Tools > Accounts something > Do you want to make a new one etc
[17:25] <Pici> shubbar: In what context?
[17:25] <jim_p> Babylykke: raw as in... captured by a camera in raw format?
[17:26] <bustaplz> jim_p: why do I need to make a new account?
[17:26] <hendra> << failed install YM
[17:26] <jim_p> bustaplz: i have no idea!
[17:26] <shubbar> pici, files uploaded using my cms on a virtual host
[17:26] <Babylykke> jim_p: Yes. Nef raw files from Nikon D70s
[17:26] <hendra> depencencies :p
[17:26] <jim_p> bustaplz: let me make one and tell you
[17:26] <hendra> need libglib 1.2
[17:26] <Pici> shubbar: It may be specific to your CMS if that is where you are seeing that log.
[17:27] <FreshPrince> kbrosnan: its nto listet there..
[17:27] <FreshPrince> *not
[17:27] <hendra> how convert .rpm to .deb?
[17:27] <jim_p> Babylykke: there are programs for the job. let me check
[17:27] <test_> hendra alien
[17:27] <shubbar> pici, i see user 99 with ftp client
[17:27] <jim_p> hendra: with alien. do NOT do so
[17:27] <l0calh0st> Hello
[17:27] <l0calh0st> Can i enable in Rhythmbox simple information about now playing track?
[17:27] <Babylykke> I was hoping for someone could recommend me one... but since you have to search I can search myself.
[17:28] <bingung> jim_p : does your opera - tools - mail and chat account clickable ? cause that's the only reason i'm using opera
[17:28] <Babylykke> THank you anyway.
[17:28] <hendra> sory,my english is ....
[17:28] <hendra> Im Indonesian
[17:28] <l0calh0st> To looks like: http://localh0st.ma.ciasny.net/pliki/xdfsffxfcerhythmbox.png  when i move cursor on tray icons
[17:28] <Pici> shubbar: grep 99 /etc/passwd   if its a UID.
[17:28] <jim_p> bingung: yea!
[17:28] <kbrosnan> FreshPrince: type about:plugins in the address bar to double check, but it sounds like the flash player plugin is not correctly installed
[17:28] <shubbar> babylykke, how about gimp with ufraw plugin
[17:28] <NIghtVision> any idea why transmission in ubuntu does not have a blocklist deal compared to the mac version?
[17:29] <beshrkayali> hello, where can i download ubuntu dvds?
[17:29] <bingung> jim_p : thx very much
[17:29] <jim_p> bingung: i just did an account!
[17:29] <ChrizC> Hi, every time I try to install my Ubuntu using a CD from their Request a Free CD link, I get a SQUASH-FS error, any idea why this is? (it's not an md5 problem)
[17:29] <os2mac> Hi! trying to setup a cronjob to backup my /home/ directory to a external USB drive. I would like to use RDIST so that it only updates any files that have been added/changed so the backup doesn't take all night. how do I deal with sudo in such a cronjob?
[17:29] <Babylykke> shubbar: Ok for editing one picture.. but I need a program to import, batch converting to jpg and to view lots of pictures.
[17:30] <beshrkayali> hello? anyone?
[17:30] <jim_p> ChrizC: badly written data on the disk. burn at lower speed
[17:30] <beshrkayali> where can i download ubuntu DVDs?
[17:30] <Pici> Babylykke: Perhaps rawstudio?
[17:30] <kbrosnan> NIghtVision: might be an older version than what transmission releases on their website
[17:30] <Babylykke> I did this in Windows with RawShooter + Lightroom, but here in Ubuntu I`m not sure what to use.
[17:30] <bingung> jim_p : thx, i tried to update the opera now
[17:30] <jim_p> !download > beshrkayali
[17:30] <ChrizC> jim_p; read my statement again. this time at a lower speed.
[17:30] <Babylykke> Pici: I`ll have a look. Thank you :D
[17:30] <Pici> !dvdiso | beshrkayali
[17:31] <bustaplz> jim_p: haha! Let me ask you this, how do I configure xserver to use nvidia drivers. When I run #sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  as I have in the past, it only asks me about keyboard options.
[17:31] <jim_p> ChrizC: <ChrizC> Hi, every time I try to install my Ubuntu using a CD from their Request a Free CD link, I get a SQUASH-FS error, any idea why this is? (it's not an md5 problem)? this one
[17:31] <beshrkayali> okay thanks ubottu, guys :)
[17:31] <kbrosnan> NIghtVision: i.e. the feature was added after Ubuntu locked the version of applications for the distro for release
[17:31] <ChrizC> jim_p; yes. notice the bit where it says "a Cd from their Request a Free CD link"?
[17:32] <bingung> jim_p : another newbie quest, after i'd download, should i uninstall my former opera, or i can just install a new one ?
[17:32] <jim_p> ChrizC: yea. its a bad disk then
[17:32] <jim_p> !opera
[17:32] <ChrizC> jim_p; I've never heard of a bad disc from their request a cd function.
[17:32] <FreshPrince> kbrosnan: hum its not listet there.. well i installed flash with apt-get install flashplugin
[17:32] <jim_p> bingung: can you wait some minutes and i will show you the repo way ok??
[17:32] <NewtoUbuntu> hi
[17:33] <bingung> jim_p : thx
[17:33] <shubbar> babylykke, my nikon d80 is only 3 month old and i haven't experimented with NEF files yet
[17:33] <NIghtVision> @kbrosnan yea apt-cache show info says  1.06-0ubuntu4
[17:33] <NIghtVision> its @ 1.34 on their site....
[17:33] <Babylykke> shubbar: You should shoot in raw.
[17:33] <kbrosnan> FreshPrince: are you using a custom insatall of firefox? if you don't know check the output of which -a firefox
[17:33] <NewtoUbuntu> I have a toshiba satellite a205 s4707 and a new install of ubuntu with no sound?
[17:33] <NIghtVision> guess i am compiling
[17:33] <bingung> ubottu : thx
[17:33] <shubbar> babylykke, i think f-spot has a plugin to view raw
[17:33] <os2mac> trying to setup a cronjob to backup my /home/ directory to a external USB drive. I would like to use RDIST so that it only updates any files that have been added/changed so the backup doesn't take all night. how do I deal with sudo in such a cronjob?
[17:33] <jim_p> ChrizC: squash thing errors are cause when the "zipped" kernel cannot "unzip" itself, so... if the cd is faulty...
[17:34] <NewtoUbuntu> how do I check to see if there is a sound driver installed for there is no speaker in the taskbar
[17:34] <ChrizC> jim_p; have you heard of a faulty cd from Ubuntu?
[17:34] <jim_p> Babylykke: are you still there?
[17:34] <FreshPrince> kbrosnan: the output brings me /usr/bin/firefox
[17:35] <Babylykke> Yes.
[17:35] <Babylykke> and rawstudio looks good :D
[17:35] <shubbar> babylykke, where do you post you pics?
[17:35] <jim_p> ChrizC: no, but all points to bad disk
[17:35] <natbet> what is the command at system > Adminstration > display?
[17:35] <NewtoUbuntu> how do I check to see if there is a sound driver installed for there is no speaker in the taskbar
[17:35] <Babylykke> on my homepage with imagevuex.com flashscript.
[17:35] <Babylykke> and some at photosight.org
[17:35] <Babylykke> To bad http://www.lightcrafts.com/linux/index.html ain`t free :S
[17:35] <ChrizC> jim_p; then what am I supposed to do about it? my drive will not burn an iso and I can't wait for another cd...
[17:36] <jim_p> Babylykke: http://www.rawtherapee.com
[17:36] <jim_p> ChrizC: i dont know
[17:36] <trilobit`> Does anyone know what does this message mean?   TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 212.55.221.162:25/1612 shrinks window 3807174802:3807176215. Repaired.
[17:36] <ChrizC> and they call this a help channel...
[17:37] <Babylykke> jim_p: PERFECT! ;D
[17:37] <faria_> how cam i print any config file ??
[17:37] <bingung> chrizC : rude :)
[17:37] <ChrizC> yet fair
[17:37] <FreshPrince> kbrosnan: i dont know where the problem could be
[17:37] <faria_> how cam i print any config file ??
[17:38] <kbrosnan> FreshPrince: any plugins folder in ~/.mozilla or ~/.mozilla/firefox ?
[17:38] <bingung> chrizC : hahahha, get stressed out same as me :)
[17:38] <Pici> !patience
[17:38] <ChrizC> don't you !patience me
[17:39] <Pici> ChrizC: Then don't give me a reason to.
[17:39] <FreshPrince> kbrosnan: no
[17:40] <FreshPrince> hm
[17:40] <FreshPrince> strange.
[17:40] <strange> yes.
[17:41] <kbrosnan> FreshPrince: my next thought would be to do a complete uninstall of the flash player then reinstall
[17:43] <kaigan> hi
[17:44] <bingung> jim_p : still there ? awaiting for your knowledge :)
[17:44] <slipp3d> what should I do if i'm stuck here...update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-6-generic
[17:44] <muffi1> Hi there, I have a via epia MS motherboard connected with tvout to my tv. If I boot live cd the terminal goes green and the xserver goes black. It runs ok with an external monitor. I tried with a sabayon slax live cd and it boots ok. My question is : is any way to change the the boot parameters to have the same result? I already tried the framebuffer at 800x600
[17:45] <shubbar> babylykke, did you find what you are looking for?
[17:45] <Babylykke> Think Raw Therapee can do the job :D but it looks terrible :O
[17:48] <Pici> slipp3d: If its 8.10 that you are installing/upgrading to then you should be asking in #ubuntu+1
[17:48] <muffi1> thx
[17:50] <faria_> how can i print any config file ??
[17:50] <_Zeus_> eh?
[17:51] <_Zeus_> faria_: what does that mean
[17:52] <Zappza> Hi!
[17:52] <Zappza> I installed ubuntu to my memory stick, and chose to install the bootloader on the memorystick itself, however it won't boot. Says something about not finding the file needed
[17:52] <Zappza> Can get the exact message if wanted
[17:53] <_Zeus_> Zappza: i think we need the actual error
[17:53] <techsupport> how can i make user owner of a directory ?
[17:54] <Tundrayeti311> techsupport: chown
[17:54] <Zappza> Allright, I'll be back in ten :=
[17:54] <_Zeus_> techsupport: sudo chown user.group FILE
[17:54] <Zappza> :)
[17:54] <jokibroki> hello all, how are you today.
[17:55] <Uplink> when doesn 8.10 come out?
[17:55] <jokibroki> i have a question about ubuntu hardy 8.04. Whenever i want to stream audio files through mozilla firefox I am not able to do that, I can only stream video files. Anyone knows the solution to this
[17:56] <jokibroki> Also, my cd/dvd burner is not being recognizes by ubuntu hardy 8.04.
[17:56] <NewtoUbuntu> ok I have sound but how do I control it without having to go into alsamixer?
[17:56] <jokibroki> recognized
[17:56] <Uplink> NewtoUbuntu: dont you have keyboard keys?
[17:56] <NewtoUbuntu> not for vol
[17:56] <Masticore> I have just installed a new font, I can change to the font in gedit, but not the terminal. How do I fix this?
[17:57] <Uplink> Masticore: try in profile settings?
[17:57] <_Zeus_> Masticore: right click on the terminal, profile?
[17:57] <NewtoUbuntu> the video player only has mute on it
[17:58] <Masticore> Uplink, _Zeus_: tried that, the font doesnt come up in the font list
[17:58] <NewtoUbuntu> ok I have sound but how do I control it without having to go into alsamixer?
[17:58] <super-jim> !video
[17:58] <_Zeus_> Masticore: umm, restart the terminal?
[17:58] <Uplink> Masticore: edit<profiles then uncheck "use the system fixed width font"
[17:58] <Burakumin> I was sitting here trying to find a way to help the cause of getting Ubuntu used by everyone and it struck me we need to find a way to advertise Ubuntu to people
[17:58] <_Zeus_> there we go
[17:58] <Uplink> Masticore: oh... hmm
[17:58] <_Zeus_> Uplink: good point
[17:58] <Burakumin> we need to make some noise about it to get people interested in it
[17:59] <super-jim> Uplink, 8.10 is coming out, ? when?
[17:59] <_Zeus_> oct 30?
[17:59] <Uplink> this month i believe
[17:59] <Masticore> Uplink: its unchecked
[17:59] <karname> salam barnameye matlab vase linux ham neveshte shode?
[17:59] <Uplink> Masticore: it should appear
[17:59] <_Zeus_> Masticore: and you have restarted it after that?
[17:59] <Killeroid> Hi, anyone installed the new broadcom wireless drivers from broadcom? Is it worth it replacing the b43 driver with it?
[17:59] <RichiH> !tr
[17:59] <Masticore> _Zeus_: you mean close all terminals and open them again?
[17:59] <Uplink> yea that can work
[18:00] <_Zeus_> Masticore: you probably should
[18:00] <Masticore> too bad I didnt screen irssi :o
[18:00] <Uplink> lol
[18:00] <Uplink> whats up with irssi
[18:01] <Uplink> i feel fine with xchat
[18:01] <super-jim> !flgrx
[18:02] <jokibroki> my dvd/cd burner is not recognized by K3B anyone knows why?
[18:02] <jijutm> hi all, facing a bit of a trouble.. with an IBM x3400 / Xeon 2.0 / 6GRAM, loaded with Hardy 64 Bit.. shows only 3.9G ram
[18:03] <LordKovu> I was wondering can I add debian repos to synaptic? I'm looking for an SMS gateway and I found one.. for debian. I figured, Ubunutu was debian based, however I don't know what version of debian ..
[18:04] <beautifulsnow> Hello, anyone know how to add WICD to start at boot? (daemon list)
[18:04] <jijutm> it was hardy server 64 bit ..
[18:04] <danbh_intrepid> LordKovu: thats supposed to be a very bad idea
[18:04] <hendrixski> I have a newer version of a program in a .deb in a repo (which I backported with prevu) but when I go to install it apt is still looking at the older version... how do I get apt to favor packages in my newer repo over other repo's?
[18:04] <_Zeus_> LordKovu: bad idea
[18:05] <danbh_intrepid> LordKovu: I think its beyond dangerous, in that it is sure to mess up your system.  If you want to take a risk, you could just try installing a single package, and see if it works...
[18:05] <trilobit`> hendrixski: _Zeus_: Could "alien" be used on debian native .deb packages ?
[18:05] <_Zeus_> trilobit`: no idea
[18:05] <hendrixski> trilobit`: I suppose you could try... but it's not made for that... try dpkg -i instead
[18:05] <trilobit`> _Zeus_: what about the opposite... is it possible to get ubuntu .deb's into debian ?
[18:05] <Zappza> Back again, the error message says "Error 25 - Disk Read error". The bootloader has configured it self to boot from hd(2,0).
[18:06] <Prez00> hello
[18:06] <erwin_> hi i'm using xvnc, does anybody know why upon connection, i'm greeted with only one terminal screen.. instead of my desktop?
[18:06] <_Zeus_> trilobit`: no idea again
[18:06] <Prez00> i am on 8.04, how do i restart compiz?  my widget screenlets are not showing up and restart all screenlets does not work, any suggestions?
[18:06] <trilobit`> Some distros claim that their .deb's are upstream debian compatible as well, namely Mepis Linux.
[18:06] <danbh_intrepid> LordKovu: what is an SMS gateway?
[18:06] <_Zeus_> i think alien should work for both
[18:07] <erwin_> danbh_intrepid: system that handles sms'es
[18:07] <hendrixski> trilobit`: .debs will work on any debian distribution
[18:07] <hendrixski> the problem is dependancies
[18:08] <cem_> s.a
[18:08] <danbh_intrepid> !info gammu | LordKovu
[18:08] <trilobit`> hendrixski: that's what I thought too. Some extra work might be needed to indicate equivalents of packages between the debian-based-distro and debian itself. How hard would that be to do ?
[18:08] <erwin_> danbh_intrepid: i think his looking for kannel :D
[18:09] <hendrixski> trilobit`: or you can backport the packages... using tools like prevu
[18:09] <trilobit`> hendrixski: oh, didn't know that.
[18:09] <hendrixski> :-)
[18:09] <hendrixski> I'm backporting right now actually
[18:09] <outbackwifi> hello
[18:10] <trilobit`> hendrixski: I'll see this prevu thing right now too. ^^
[18:10] <erwin_> hi i'm using xvnc, does anybody know why upon connection, i'm greeted with only one terminal screen.. instead of my desktop?
[18:10] <outbackwifi> erwin_: in your startup script you should specify something other than xterm
[18:10] <hendrixski> I'm backporting trac-git from intrepid to Hardy... and I need it to prefer a newer package in a different repository than the one in the main repositor... how do I set apt to prefer the newer version?
[18:10] <Vallhalla81> Hi i have installed ubuntu to a usb drive and got it to boot to the login screen after i put in user name and password i get just a blank sandy screen and mouse pointer i can get a tty
[18:11] <LordKovu> danbh_intrepid: looking for kennel, I've tried that one (gammu) and to be quite honest.. it sucks. lol.
[18:11] <Zappza> I get this error message when booting Xubuntu from my memory stick "Error 25 - Disk Read error". The bootloader has configured it self to boot from hd(2,0).
[18:11] <Zappza> Anybody have a clue how to solve it?
[18:11] <outbackwifi> Zappza: at the grub screen press e and edit the kernel line to reflect the correct root disk
[18:12] <trilobit`> hendrixski: is it what they call package pinning ?
[18:12] <ssapphiree> привет всем ))
[18:12] <outbackwifi> !ru | ssapphiree
[18:12] <Guiri> !xvmc
[18:12] <outbackwifi> !vnc
[18:12] <erwin_> outbackwifi: can't i set it to my gnome desktop?
[18:12] <outbackwifi> erwin_: yes you can
[18:12] <Vallhalla81> Can anyone advise
[18:13] <Prez00> ok, i can start other screenlets, but not the stocks one, which is supposed to be running..
[18:13] <erwin_> outbackwifi: how?, btw i'm using tightvnc not x11vnc
[18:13] <Guiri> Is there a command that'll let me know if I setup the XvMC in my xorg correctly? I used the man page for the intel driver
[18:13] <Zappza> Yeah, I've understood that, but what is the correct root disk? I have only one harddrive in my laptop, and I have installed xubuntu to my usbstick, will the bootloader read the harddrive it starts from as hd(1,0)?
[18:13] <Prez00> restarted compiz, did not help
[18:13] <outbackwifi> erwin_: that doesnt matter, i would look into a file called xstartup inside my .vnc folder
[18:14] <erwin_> outbackwifi: ok will look...
[18:14] <Guest59792> hello
[18:14] <Kwietsche3> anyone german? =)
[18:15] <outbackwifi> !de | Kwietsche3
[18:15] <Vallhalla81> !de
[18:15] <qbmaniac> deutschman!
[18:15] <qbmaniac> ich weiss keine deutsch :)
[18:15] <Kwietsche3> oh, merci =)
[18:15] <rdx> Any reason why Audacious hasn't been updated to 1.5.1 in the software repo?
[18:16] <kitche> rdx: no need to since it has no security updates
[18:16] <danbh_intrepid> !latest > rdx
[18:16] <danbh_intrepid> rdx: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/audacious
[18:17] <SpaceBass> hey folks
[18:17] <SpaceBass> I'm trying to use a physicial windows partition in VMware and running into issues
[18:18] <SpaceBass> I can get the intital windows splashscreen then it hangs
[18:18] <DJones> !de > qbmaniac
[18:19] <Zappza> Yeah, I've understood that, but what is the correct root disk? I have only one harddrive in my laptop, and I have installed xubuntu to my usbstick, will the bootloader read the harddrive it starts from as hd(1,0)?
[18:20] <danbh_intrepid> Zappza: cat /boot/grub/device.map                        try that command, see if it helps
[18:20] <ramsundar> hello guys I need a channel for xen support in ubuntu?
[18:20] <ramsundar> does any one know?
[18:21] <Zappza> danbh_intrepid: Where should I write in the command?
[18:21] <danbh_intrepid> !terminal | Zappza
[18:22] <hendrixski> trilobit`: that would be pinning you're right... I'll google that
[18:22] <Zappza> Yeah, I know about the terminal, the thing is that I can't boot the system as the bootloader is failing
[18:23] <erwin_> outbackwifi: i tried startx and gdm start but i still couldn't get my desktop :(
[18:23] <danbh_intrepid> Zappza: oh, I see.  I dunno
[18:23] <outbackwifi> erwin_: you should use a command like startgnome, let me confirm that for you
[18:24] <Zappza> danbh_intrepid: When I installed xubuntu, the device I installed it to was sdb(0,0) is this the one?
[18:24] <DigitalFiz> Zappza, maybe boot from a livecd then check it?
[18:25] <Technoviking> can some someone send me a test PM
[18:25] <Zappza> Yeah, I could give that a try :)
[18:25] <xbxbxb> Help! 30 min ago my internet worked perfectly, then I tried to install an ATI driver that messed around with my X server--had to uninstall it. But now my internet does not work. I see 2 new devices eth0:avahi and eth1:ahavi. When I try to configure eth0 and eth1, network tools says 'interface not found'. what to do?
[18:25] <danbh_intrepid> Zappza: you are trying to install to an external drive?  I'm really not that good with grub...
[18:25] <danbh_intrepid> xbxbxb: ubuntu?
[18:25] <ziad> hello
[18:25] <skurakai1> hi. i have problem with webcam. if i shutdown ubuntu webcam still on.
[18:25] <ziad> ?
[18:25] <Zappza> danbh_intrepid: Yeah, I am trying to install it to my usb stick
[18:26] <xbxbxb> danbh_intrepid: apparently, yes.
[18:26] <danbh_intrepid> xbxbxb: you sure the uninstall didnt remove anything else?
[18:26] <Ahtenus> ﻿I used this guide to set up fusesmb:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb but there is a problem: I can only see my own computer. pinging the other comuter works.
[18:26] <ziad> i want driver for dell1525 for ubuntu
[18:26] <xbxbxb> yes, and it didn't work before I uninstalled
[18:27] <danbh_intrepid> xbxbxb: wait, so its never worked?
[18:27] <outbackwifi> erwin_: check this out http://pastebin.com/f1bc1a20f your xstartup should look like this
[18:27] <outbackwifi> !driver
[18:27] <xbxbxb> danbh_intrepid: it did, before I installed the ATI driver. It's a new install. it worked the first time I booted. the 2nd time (now) it doesn't
[18:28] <Elda> Quick question... what is the name of the file where my xserver settings are stored?  I need to change the resolution for a projector by hand :>
[18:28] <erwin_> outbackwifi: thanks! will try it out
[18:28] <Ahtenus> ﻿﻿I used this guide to set up fusesmb:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb but there is a problem: I can only see my own computer. pinging the other comuter works.
[18:29] <oric> hehe
[18:29] <outbackwifi> !repeat | Ahtenus
[18:29] <danbh_intrepid> xbxbxb: well, installing the ATI shouldnt harm your network stuff, AFAIK.  All I know to suggest is to sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop               to make sure you didnt remove too much
[18:29] <Elda> I think it's xorg.conf but I am not quite sure
[18:30] <danbh_intrepid> Elda: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:30] <outbackwifi> Elda: it is /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:30] <Elda> ty :)
[18:30] <Zappza> After a search on the web, it seems that the ID for usbdrives is hd(0,0)
[18:30] <Zappza> Will try that now :)
[18:30] <outbackwifi> Zappza: let us know if that fixed it
[18:30] <xbxbxb> danbh_intrepid: I don't think it will help. my two network cards don't show up in /etc/network/interfaces anymore... just my loopback device
[18:31] <outbackwifi> xbxbxb: did you try with smbclient on a terminal?
[18:31] <erwin_> outbackwifi: great! it worked.. thank you!
[18:31] <outbackwifi> erwin_: yw
[18:31] <danbh_intrepid> xbxbxb: well, that command wont do anything, unless something is broken...  so no harm in trying it
[18:32] <Elda> Meh... I cannot seem to find any entries pertaining to the resolution at which something is shown.  Would this normally be in the xorg.conf?  Or somewhere else?
[18:32] <Elda> This being for KDE
[18:32] <rdx> Anyone been able to configure the Dell D430 UMTS card at Ubuntu?
[18:32] <xbxbxb> outbackwifi: no? what's smbclient?
[18:33] <outbackwifi> Elda: should normally be in the Screen section of xorg.conf
[18:33] <Guiri> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep XvMC returns that XvMCSurfaces and XvMC are not used in the intel driver, but I thought XvMC was now enabled for the 915 chipset
[18:33] <outbackwifi> !smbclient
[18:33] <Mixed_--_> anyone in here experienced with setting up a file and printer server?  I want to know if it's more secure to use network ubuntu or any other ubuntu flavor with file and printer sharing configured
[18:33] <outbackwifi> xbxbxb: its a cli samba client; pretty useful for troubleshooting samba
[18:34] <xbxbxb> I'm not even using samba
[18:34] <outbackwifi> !survey
[18:34] <Mixed_--_> !networking
[18:34] <Kassah-lappy> is there any way to disable the touchpad on my laptop?
[18:34] <Mixed_--_> !linux
[18:34] <outbackwifi> xbxbxb: you arent? i thought you said fusesmb
[18:34] <AJP> Hi! How can I make my Transmission work?
[18:34]  * Scunizi read about Broadcom wireless drivers for linux just released with the help of Dell & Canonical.. http://blogs.computerworld.com/new_linux_broadcom_wi_fi_drivers_arrive
[18:34] <outbackwifi> Kassah-lappy: i know how it can be done on an eeepc
[18:35] <Kassah-lappy> I like the nipple pointer and my sometimes used external mouse... but the touchpad just causes problems =/
[18:35] <Dedi> can anyone recommend a wysiwyg editor?
[18:35] <xanax`> hello
[18:35] <outbackwifi> Dedi: openoffice writer
[18:35] <Kassah-lappy> outbackwifi, is it a hardware turn off? or a software?
[18:35] <Dedi> outbackwifi: also for html?
[18:35] <AJP> Hi! How can I make my Transmission work?
[18:35] <outbackwifi> Kassah-lappy: it unloads the synaptics module on press of a hotkey
[18:35] <outbackwifi> Dedi: yes
[18:35] <Mixed_--_> Dedi, to build webpages try kompozer
[18:35] <Dedi> outbackwifi: thanks
[18:36] <Kassah-lappy> hmm
[18:36] <Kassah-lappy> I've got spare hotkeys
[18:36] <Dedi> Mixed_--_: thanks will try both
[18:36] <Guiri> Anybody?
[18:36] <outbackwifi> Kassah-lappy: exactly, i used a spare one and wrote a script
[18:36] <xbxbxb> outbackwifi: fusemb? who said that?
[18:36] <outbackwifi> xbxbxb: sorry mustve been someone else :)
[18:36] <xbxbxb> ...
[18:37] <Kassah-lappy> outbackwifi, what's the module name? I'm not seeing
[18:37] <Kassah-lappy> syn anything in lsmod
[18:37] <outbackwifi> Kassah-lappy: its called psmouse on my laptop
[18:37] <jamieyg3> i just installed ubuntu, does it come with a webserver and mysql?
[18:38] <Pici> jamieyg3: No, but you can install one from the repositories
[18:38] <outbackwifi> jamieyg3: not unless you installed ubuntu-server and selected LAMP
[18:38] <Pici> !lamp > jamieyg3
[18:38] <outbackwifi> xbxbxb: in fact it was Ahtenus
[18:38] <AJP> Hi! How can I make my Transmission work?
[18:38] <jamieyg3> ok thanks
[18:38] <DigitalFiz> AJP, take it to a mechanic
[18:39] <outbackwifi> AJP: thats too vague, please be more specific
[18:39] <Kassah-lappy> outbackwifi, hmm... unloading that module got the nipple mouse too =(
[18:39] <AJP> I can't download anything... I can't get connection
[18:40] <kernando> i need help connecting to another computer through crossover cable just so i can ftp to it to move files...i have the host set up with a static ip 19.168.0.109..and i have this machine set up with 192.168.0.9 but when i try to connect it wont work.. what am i supposed to put under gateway address?
[18:40] <outbackwifi> Kassah-lappy: sorry, like i said my eeepc doesnt have that other mouse. I use this with an external usb mouse so that i can type uninterrupted
[18:40] <xbxbxb> outbackwifi: so, you can't help me?
[18:40] <Dillizar> can i upgrade to 8.10 now :D or i need to wait for 22 days?
[18:40] <Cerberus_> kernando: no gateway needed
[18:40] <outbackwifi> xbxbxb: not unless i know what your problem is
[18:40] <Cerberus_> kernando: can you ping each other?
[18:40] <Kassah-lappy> yeah... I agree... this will have to do for now
[18:41] <outbackwifi> Kassah-lappy: if you'd like, ill pastebin my script that also includes a nifty python based notifier
[18:41] <kernando> how do i ping in ubuntu?
[18:41] <DigitalFiz> AJP, try changing the port see if your isp is blocking that port or they maybe even blocking p2p traffic period
[18:41] <rdx> Dillizar: Alt+F2 -> update-manager -d will let you update to the development release
[18:41] <outbackwifi> kernando: ping hostname (or ip address)
[18:41] <Cerberus_> kernando: please prefix your replies with the persons name your repling to.   Open a terminal from Applications - Accessories, then ping 192.168.0.9
[18:41] <thibault> I want to now how I can get IP adresse of all stations wich are connected on my local network?
[18:41] <Kassah-lappy> outbackwifi, that would be nice... since I can proboly adapt it to disable just the touchpad when I figure out how
[18:42] <Cerberus_> thibault: install nmap and do a ping scan
[18:42] <Technoviking> can someone send me a test /msg
[18:42] <AJP> DigitalFiz: How do I know which port to use?
[18:42] <outbackwifi> Kassah-lappy: ok
[18:42]  * Cerberus_ Technoviking test
[18:42] <LjL> i "export DISPLAY=192.168.0.2:0.0" (which is a computer with X running and "xhost +" [yes, i know]), and start an x program, but i keep getting "Error: can't open display", what gives?
[18:42] <Cerberus_> grr.
[18:42] <Dillizar> rdx: is it good? and how big is the upgrade
[18:42] <ollie> Hi, after trying to get my webcam to work by following the steps on http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-785756.html , ubuntu hangs when it boots at Starting Bluetooth... Can anyone help?
[18:42] <Dillizar> rdx: i mean is it done ?
[18:42] <Hilikus> how do i disable the mesages from debian security status??
[18:42] <Technoviking> thanks all
[18:42] <thibault> Sorry, xchat stoped working, Can you tell me again plz?
[18:43] <outbackwifi> Kassah-lappy: toggle script is at http://pastebin.com/f1bc1a20f
[18:43] <Cerberus_> thibault: install nmap and do a ping scan
[18:43] <Kassah-lappy> outbackwifi, thanks
[18:43] <outbackwifi> Kassah-lappy: notification is at http://pastebin.com/f322b8e73
[18:43] <kernando> Cerberus_ shouldnt i ping 192.168.0.109?
[18:43] <Cerberus_> kernando: well if you are on the machine that has the ip 192.168.0.9 then yes.
[18:43] <xbxbxb> outbackwifi: I stated my problem above.
[18:43] <outbackwifi> Kassah-lappy: oops toggle script is http://pastebin.com/f502b22f3
[18:44] <rdx> Dillizar: I experience some trouble with the nm-applet (network manager) just disappearing. Works fine for me otherwise.
[18:44] <xbxbxb> outbackwifi: my network does not work anymore. eth0 and eth1 are down
[18:44] <thibault> Cerberus_ Thks
[18:44] <Cerberus_> thibault: np.
[18:44] <xbxbxb> outbackwifi: I can't configure them because network tools says 'interface does not exist'
[18:44] <Kassah-lappy> outbackwifi, that looks slightly better ;)
[18:44] <outbackwifi> xbxbxb: do you have connections on both of them?
[18:44] <scampbell> xbxbxb: I would open a terminal and su - root then ifconfig -a to see if they are there to start.
[18:44] <kernando> Cerberus_  it gave me this output PING 192.168.0.109 (192.168.0.109) 56(84) bytes of data.
[18:44] <outbackwifi> Kassah-lappy: sorry
[18:44] <thibault> Cerberus_ : mmm Actually I get ping: unknown host scan
[18:44] <Skyrail> How can I get the terminal to open up in a certain folder when I click on a shortcut? What about running a certain command? I just want one for python development (opens up in my python folder), one for normal work, another for mysql, another for SSH etc. So instead of opening up a new blank console and typing in this each time it opens up the console with the command pre-run ready for me to enter in my password
[18:44] <Dillizar> rdx: ok i am upgradeing now :D are you saying that i might have problems with connecting to the internet?
[18:44] <xbxbxb> outbackwifi: just on one, but it worked 30 min ago
[18:44] <xbxbxb> scampbell: yes, they are there
[18:44] <Cerberus_> kernando: did it say request timed out?
[18:45] <xbxbxb> scampbell: although they are missing in /etc/network/interfaces
[18:45] <xbxbxb> scampbell: I added them by hand
[18:45] <Cerberus_> thibault: you should do:  nmap -sP 192.168.0.* for example.
[18:45] <outbackwifi> xbxbxb: what does sudo ethtool eth0 tell you? (pastebinit if you must)
[18:45] <rdx> Dillizar: No, but the applet might crash (alt+f2 -> nm-applet to restart)
[18:45] <kernando> Cerberus_  nope its just sittin there like that with a blinking black cursor box..
[18:45] <techsupport> Hi! trying to add shares to samba smb.conf, really not sure how to do this .....
[18:45] <AJP> DigitalFiz: How do I know which port to use?
[18:45] <trhckr> Hi
[18:46] <Cerberus_> kernando: ok, then its timing out.  that means you can't ping each other.  are you sure both machines are configured to be on the same 192.168.0 network with the netmask of 255.255.255.0 ?
[18:46] <ollie> Hi, after trying to get my webcam to work by following the steps on http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-785756.html , but now ubuntu hangs when it boots at Starting Bluetooth... Can anyone help?
[18:46] <Kassah-lappy> outbackwifi, wow... that notify script is nice! good job
[18:46] <DigitalFiz> AJP, try them?
[18:46] <Cerberus_> ollie: stop repeating.  someone will answer if they know
[18:46] <xbxbxb> outbackwifi: I can't pastebin, since it's on the PC with no internet connection :( but the last line says "link detected: yes".. does that mean that the cable is connected?
[18:46] <outbackwifi> Kassah-lappy: tx i just copied and modified an existing script
[18:46] <outbackwifi> xbxbxb: yes
[18:46] <scampbell> xbxbxb: so the network interfaces work, it's the gui that's confused.
[18:47] <thibault> Cerberus_ I only get this line aftec your command: Starting Nmap 4.53 ( http://insecure.org ) at 2008-10-08 19:45 CEST
[18:47] <xbxbxb> what can I do now?
[18:47] <Kassah-lappy> outbackwifi, good you have added credit to the file... mind if I use this in some of my other apps?
[18:47] <Mixed_--_> anyone knows how to setup a file and printer sharing only to local IP's???
[18:47] <outbackwifi> xbxbxb: now do a sudo ifconfig etho ipaddress up
[18:47] <Cerberus_> thibault: it may take a while.   you can add -v if you want it to be more verbose
[18:47] <kernando> yes
[18:47] <outbackwifi> Kassah-lappy: not at all go ahead
[18:47] <Kassah-lappy> cool =)
[18:47] <Cerberus_> kernando: are you sure you are using a cross over cable then
[18:47] <Dillizar> hmm rdx 999MB that will take 1h and the instalization few more i will format my pc :D just need to make a home particion
[18:47] <jasuus> theres a bunch of AT&T guys outside working on a big box.   They have about a half-dozen manuals around them and they looked confused.  Its funny.
[18:47] <kernando> Cerberus_  yes
[18:47] <kernando> o
[18:47] <enrico_> italiani?
[18:48] <outbackwifi> !offtopic | jasuus:
[18:48] <kernando> Cerberus_  i think i may have found the problem (but i dont know how to solve it) everytime i got back into the network settings the wired connection doesnt have the box checkmarked
[18:48] <pronoy_> how to uninstall wine ?? and then reinstall it ??
[18:49] <Cerberus_> kernando: that i'm not sure about, but maybe someone else in here could help you to figure out why the network manager isn't saving your settings.
[18:49] <xbxbxb> outbackwifi: I did this: sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.102 up ... does not give out any information and just returns... and ping 192.168.1.1 still does not work
[18:50] <outbackwifi> xbxbxb: hangon, what does sudo route -n tell you
[18:50] <King_Kickass> i was starting the 8.10 update, but it pissed me off that its taking so long, so I shutdown the computer. now it sais "kernel panic - not syncing: ...... unable to mount root fs ....."
[18:50] <Cerberus_> sucks to be you.
[18:50] <Cerberus_> :)
[18:50] <Cerberus_> jk
[18:50] <FloodBot2> Cerberus_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:50] <Cerberus_> haha
[18:50] <kernando> lol\
[18:50] <jasuus> King_Kickass: patience is a virtue.  May you suffer and learn from your sins.
[18:51] <xbxbxb> outbackwifi: is it enough to just type in what route -n tells me for eth0 (and leave out the eth1 entries)?
[18:51] <outbackwifi> King_Kickass: looks like you didnt "Shutdown" you pulled the "Plug"
[18:51] <King_Kickass> so what am I supposed to do know? format the system?
[18:51] <Cerberus_> King_Kickass: uh huh.
[18:51] <jasuus> King: yes
[18:51] <outbackwifi> King_Kickass: boot with a livecd and repair the fs
[18:51] <King_Kickass> no outbackwifi I shutdown properly, it didnt even give me a fukin warning
[18:51] <Cerberus_> outbackwifi: highly doubtful that will work.
[18:51] <meuserj> I'm on a permanent ethernet connection... network manager erroneously thinks I am offline and so all apps start in offline mode... I could uninstall network manager, but I want to keep it if I can for other functionality like vpn support...
[18:52] <outbackwifi> meuserj: select manual config
[18:52] <King_Kickass> ok livecd thx
[18:52] <Dedi> anyone knows another wysiwyg editor? (kompozer just crashes all the time, oo writer cant handle images sizes)
[18:52] <xbxbxb> outbackwifi: destination: 192.168.1.0, gateway: 0.0.0.0, genmask: 255.255.255.0, flags: U, metric: 0, ref: 0, use:0.
[18:52] <xbxbxb> (for eth0)
[18:52] <jasuus> King: im not sure thats gonna work
[18:52] <Cerberus_> i dont think that would fix kings problems at all.
[18:52]  * outbackwifi wonders why
[18:52] <Cerberus_> he maybe able to boot from livecd and backup his files though
[18:53] <kernando> so would anybody know why my network manager isnt saving my wired settings?
[18:54] <outbackwifi> xbxbxb: you need to  add a default route; it should look like sudo route add -net 0.0.0.0 gw 192.168.1.1
[18:54] <Ahtenus> ﻿﻿I used this guide to set up fusesmb:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb but there is a problem: I can only see my own computer. pinging the other comuter works.
[18:54] <meuserj> outbackwifi: should have mentioned, this is on intrepid... it doesn't have the manual config option anymore
[18:54] <outbackwifi> !intrepid | meuserj
[18:55] <exco> does anybody know how to get a bluetooth mouse working with the new bluetooth-applet?
[18:55] <outbackwifi> !bluetooth
[18:55] <wang> ubottu: I got a question related
[18:56] <exco> outbackwifi: that documentation is outdated. there is no more hidd
[18:56] <outbackwifi> exco: in hardy?
[18:56] <chamuscas> hello
[18:56] <anders_> haj2u ubottu
[18:56] <anders_> doesn't it do leetspeak?
[18:56] <anders_> seriously.
[18:56] <jamieyg3> how do i find out what ip address ive been assigned
[18:56] <exco> outbackwifi: my bad. Forgot that I'm already on 8.10
[18:57] <Slart> jamieyg3: ifconfig in a terminal
[18:57] <jamieyg3> thanks
[18:57] <outbackwifi> jamieyg3: right click on network icon and click on connection information
[18:57] <chamuscas> so can anyone help me with wine, i already red the help page of ubuntu about wine but i still have some problems, anyone want's to help me ?
[18:58] <xbxbxb> outbackwifi: I did add it with route add ... what to do now?
[18:58] <jasuus> just ask your question
[18:58] <Slart> chamuscas: just ask your question.. if people want to help you they will answer.. you could try asking in #iinehq too
[18:58] <outbackwifi> xbxbxb: just ping now
[18:58] <xbxbxb> outbackwifi: does not work. it says "from 192.168.1.102 .... destination host unreachable"...
[18:58] <Slart> chamusca: sorry.. #winehq
[18:59] <eirik_> anders_: this is your mom. go to bed
[18:59] <outbackwifi> xbxbxb: describe the connection to the gateway, is it over crossover?
[18:59] <chamusca> so i do i solve the dual screen problem of wine ?
[18:59] <Cerberus_> hahaha
[18:59] <chamusca> How
[18:59] <xbxbxb> outbackwifi: I have one router and two PCs directly connected to it
[18:59] <jasuus> !offtopic | eirik_
[18:59] <Pici> !nickspam > Mitty
[18:59] <xbxbxb> outbackwifi: the router is then connected to the internet with another cable
[19:00] <jljzjl> Hi. Are there any debs available for Amarok Beta 2, or should I compile it from source? Thanks in advance.
[19:00] <anders_> eirik_: oh noes!!!!
[19:00] <Pici> !nickspam > enl810d
[19:01] <outbackwifi> xbxbxb: is it a pingable router? some have icmp response turned off
[19:01] <xbxbxb> I can ping it with this PC
[19:01] <xbxbxb> outbackwifi: ^
[19:02] <outbackwifi> xbxbxb: oh ok
[19:02] <techsupport> Help please... trying to add a share in smb.confg with samba
[19:02] <chamusca> overlap problems with wine, i can't understand ubuntu's explanation
[19:02] <outbackwifi> xbxbxb: do you have two nics on the pc that doesnt work?
[19:02] <Cerberus_> techsupport:  ok ...whats the problem
[19:02] <xbxbxb> xbxbxb: yes
[19:02] <xbxbxb> er
[19:03] <xbxbxb> outbackwifi: yes, eth0 and eth1
[19:03] <jos_> the sound in youre tube wont work?
[19:03] <jos_> sound is working on system oke
[19:03] <techsupport> Cerberus_, tried to set the sare as public, and guests allow = yes, still not accessable error in windows
[19:03] <outbackwifi> xbxbxb: and the cable is connected to eth0 or eth1?
[19:03] <xbxbxb> eth0
[19:03] <xbxbxb> outbackwifi:
[19:03] <xbxbxb> ^
[19:04] <outbackwifi> xbxbxb: can you do a sudo ifconfig and tell me what it says on ip address for both eth0 and eth1
[19:04] <Cerberus_> techsupport: read only = no, guest ok = yes.     those two should give you waht you want (along with path of course)
[19:04] <Zappza> If I use a LiveUSB with persistant changes enabled, can I install drivers and install updates?
[19:04] <Cerberus_> Zappza: yes.
[19:05] <xbxbxb> outbackwifi: eth0: 192.168.1.177, eth1: 192.168.1.160
[19:05] <chamusca> how do i solve the wine overlapping screen problems ?
[19:05] <Cerberus_> techsupport: also, what is your security line set to
[19:05] <rockaxe> hi tooangle
[19:05] <outbackwifi> xbxbxb: do a sudo ifconfig eth1 down
[19:06] <outbackwifi> xbxbxb: and then ping; it should work
[19:06] <techsupport> Cerberus_, sec plz
[19:06] <xbxbxb> outbackwifi: IT WORKS :D
[19:06] <xbxbxb> outbackwifi: what the heck was causing the problem?
[19:06] <Mixed_--_> anyone knows how to setup a file and printer sharing only to local IP's???
[19:06] <souldier> hello
[19:07] <souldier> im having a problem with vnc on hardy heron
[19:07] <outbackwifi> xbxbxb: both the interfaces were in the same subnet so the packets didnt know where to go
[19:07] <souldier> why is that that i can only connect to vnc when the computer is logged in
[19:07] <souldier> i just noticed that
[19:07] <xbxbxb> outbackwifi: will it help to just disable eth1 permanently?
[19:07] <trekok3> hello
[19:07] <souldier> i restarted my server and i couldnt vnc to it
[19:07] <outbackwifi> xbxbxb: yes of course
[19:07] <xbxbxb> outbackwifi: how do I do that, so eth1 will be down after a reboot?
[19:07] <souldier> so i had to fisically login
[19:07] <souldier> and then vnc from my other computer
[19:07] <jimcooncat>  I'm displaying Linux apps (firefox, thunderbird, liferea) on my users' Windows desktops via Xming. Works great. I'd like to have more consistency when they do a "file open" or other file operation, as some of their programs will show "J:\jim\doc\" and others as "/J/jim/doc" (J being a shared folder). Any ideas? Can I make things more consistent?
[19:08] <outbackwifi> xbxbxb: check your /etc/network/interfaces and comment out the line that says eth1 auto
[19:08] <outbackwifi> souldier: you are probably using Vino and not tightvnc
[19:08] <xbxbxb> outbackwifi: OK, thank you very very much
[19:09] <outbackwifi> xbxbxb: yw
[19:09] <souldier> outbackwifi: im using the vnc that comes with ubuntu
[19:09] <techsupport> Cerberus_, all i hpave is pat = /my/path, read only = No, guest ok = Yes
[19:09] <souldier> just enabled it
[19:09] <outbackwifi> souldier: thats just the listener
[19:09] <Cerberus_> techsupport: ok, what about security = ?
[19:09] <souldier> outbackwifi: what do you think i should do?
[19:10] <outbackwifi> souldier: you should install tightvncserver
[19:10] <outbackwifi> souldier: and configure the xstartup to start gnome
[19:10] <techsupport> Cerberus_, under [global] i have security = ADS , but nothing about secuirty under [share]
[19:10] <outbackwifi> souldier: if you look at todays logs, i helped someone do the same thing
[19:10] <souldier> how can i check the logs?
[19:10] <B3z3rk3r> hey outback
[19:11] <outbackwifi> B3z3rk3r: hi
[19:11] <Cerberus_> techsupport: security = ads?   hmm...  well, are you on an active directory domain?  if so i'm not sure.  if not, change it to security = user   (or = share)
[19:11] <souldier> outbackwifi: how can i check the logs?
[19:11] <outbackwifi> souldier: irclogs.ubuntu.com i think
[19:11] <techsupport> Cerberus_, yes i am on an active directory domain
[19:11] <rockaxe>   chat.youthtech.com
[19:12] <Pici> !logs | souldier
[19:12] <outbackwifi> tx Pici
[19:12] <Cerberus_> techsupport: then i'm not sure to be honest.  you could make your samba server be a stand alone server and not a part of the domain by changing the security setting
[19:14] <outbackwifi> souldier: its actually here --> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/10/08/%23ubuntu.html
[19:14] <souldier> outbackwifi: yea im reading
[19:14] <techsupport> Cerberus_, anything we could think about to actually keep the security = ADS but still get my to work ?
[19:14] <Cerberus_> techsupport: personally no, i have no experience with such a configuration
[19:15] <trekok3> are there problem with WIFI in ubuntu now?
[19:15] <gma_> how do you get ubuntu to prompt you for sensible resolution and refresh rate in X? dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg only asks about my damned keyboard!
[19:15] <outbackwifi> gma_: system-->preferences-->screen resolution
[19:15] <Cerberus_> gma_: System - Preferences - Screen Resolution
[19:15] <Cerberus_> haha
[19:15] <outbackwifi> :p
[19:16] <Cerberus_> ya beat me to it
[19:16] <outbackwifi> sorry
[19:16] <Cerberus_> haha  salright
[19:16] <trekok3> what?
[19:16] <gma_> I tried that, but it only offers me 60Hz. I know the card and monitor can do 85, as they were doing it a few hours ago before a heron upgrade
[19:16] <outbackwifi> trekok3: thats  a very vague question. please state your problem
[19:16] <outbackwifi> gma_: try changing it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:17] <gma_> (sorry, can't reply direct as your nick is black on black -- nicely higlighted irssi)
[19:17] <souldier> outbackwifi: where can i download the tightvncserver ?
[19:17] <gma_> but I've tried that too. deleted a bunch of wanky modelines and similar
[19:17] <B3z3rk3r> gma_ anything higher than 70 is a waste tho?
[19:17] <outbackwifi> souldier: sudo apt-get instal tightvncserver
[19:17] <outbackwifi> souldier: sudo apt-get install tightvncserver
[19:17] <gma_> no, my dad gets a headache if it's lower than 85
[19:18] <gma_> he's very sensitive to flicker
[19:18] <B3z3rk3r> or is it 60? i can never remember
[19:18] <Cerberus_> the higher the better
[19:18] <B3z3rk3r> one of the two  =p
[19:18] <gma_> so is there no longer a console based config screen that prompts you for the resolution settings you want?
[19:18] <souldier> outbackwifi: couldnt find package
[19:18] <outbackwifi> gma_: hardy or intrepid?
[19:19] <Tundrayeti311> !res | gma_
[19:19] <gma_> the stuff built in to the desktop (Applications -> Other -> Screens and thingy) set me back to 640x480 and didn't indicate it was going to overwrite xorg.conf
[19:19] <outbackwifi> !info tightvncserver
[19:19] <outbackwifi> souldier: you need universe enabled
[19:19] <Cerberus_> souldier: actually, its xtightvncserver
[19:19] <B3z3rk3r> souldier: google "tight vnc" should be a free DL
[19:19] <edlv> i have downloaded skype and please tell me how to install
[19:19] <gma_> Tundrayeti311: thanks, but I know what's what in principle. I was hacking modelines in the late 90s, but these days things have moved on. only they seem to have gone a bit backwards in the last two years
[19:19] <Cerberus_> aptitude search tightvnc
[19:20] <outbackwifi> !info tightvncserver | Cerberus
[19:20] <trekok3> I had problem with WIFI  connection in Ubuntu 7.04. The signal was broken after some time
[19:20] <rjelliso> i saw a gopher tonight
[19:20] <atomekk> edlv:  sudo dkpg -i skype.deb
[19:20] <jperkins> I'm having trouble with screen resolution. I have a GeForce 6200 PCI, and a widescreen Acer X163w (1360x768). i'm using the non-free drivers. I can't get my screen resolution below 1440x900.
[19:20] <Cerberus_> aw, i stand corrected.  the package i saw was for the client outback
[19:20] <jperkins> any help? :P
[19:21] <outbackwifi> trekok3: have you installed and tried with hardy (8.04)
[19:21] <souldier> ok
[19:21] <souldier> already installing
[19:21] <edlv> atomekk: it says command not found
[19:22] <jperkins> anyone? :P
[19:22] <atomekk> edlv:  ahh sorry my fault  s/dkpg/dpkg
[19:22] <gma_> jperkins: have you had a look at the Modes setting in the Screens section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[19:22] <gma_> jperkins: you will need one entry there for each resolution that you can switch into
[19:23] <gma_> jperkins: if you start editing that file (manually or with a GUI) take a backup first. it can be a whores ass to get it right.
[19:23] <jperkins> gma_: there's nothing in there about custom resolutions
[19:24] <souldier> outbackwifi: already installed it, what do I do know?
[19:24] <gma_> jperkins: what does it say next to Modes
[19:24] <gma_> jperkins: ?
[19:24] <jperkins> umm one sec
[19:25] <outbackwifi> souldier: launch it by typing tightvncserver and following the prompts
[19:25] <souldier> outbackwifi: done
[19:25] <gma_> is there a package with non free ati drivers in it?
[19:25] <gma_> I think that might be my issue
[19:25] <gma_> (I've got a radeon 7000/VE)
[19:25] <outbackwifi> souldier: now follow the way to add gnome session from that irc log and then connect from remote without logging in
[19:26] <alicev> ha
[19:26] <alicev> hallo
[19:26] <edlv> atomekk: it says cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[19:26] <jperkins> gma_: there is no modes section
[19:26] <alicev> who is ? http://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1g9kiorhfgdvb1iglmrw8j7uh2.jpg
[19:26] <gma_> jperkins: it must be autodetecting the lot then. in which case, I'm out of date and I'm afraid I can't help...
[19:27] <outbackwifi> !offtopic | alicev
[19:27] <SpaceBass> I'm trying to use a physicial windows partition in VMware and running into issues
[19:27] <SpaceBass> I can get the intital windows splashscreen then it hangs
[19:28] <jperkins> does anyone else have any idea?
[19:28] <jperkins> it has a bunch of resolutions except 1360x768
[19:28]  * SpudDogg hugs rsync
[19:28] <the_eraser> now when metacity has compositing why doesnt it support alpha in window decoration? :(
[19:28] <outbackwifi> jperkins: you need to add the modes you want to that list
[19:29] <jperkins> how? :P it's been a really long time since i've done any of this, and last time i used linux the modes were all in there
[19:29] <jperkins> and i just had to add the new ones
[19:29] <jperkins> and it worked
[19:29] <jperkins> now my xorg.conf has almost nothing in it
[19:29] <kernando> How can i find out if ubuntu recognizes my ethernet controller. its not a pci slot it is built into my mobo
[19:30] <B3z3rk3r> kernado, chances are very good that it will be automaticaly deteceted
[19:30] <outbackwifi> kernando: lspci
[19:30] <david_> In desperation!!! Help!!! Last night I cleaned up my disk and obviously deleted something I shouldn't. Now when my desktop appears I have no tool bar at the top or bottom so no icons to enter anywhere. They have disappeared how can I retrieve them?? Anything I minimize is completely lost out of the screen??? Ideas please
[19:31] <kernando> ohh i guess when i reinstalled network manager my problems were solved! yay
[19:31] <souldier> outbackwifi: im at the xstartup file inside the .vnc directory
[19:31] <souldier> what now?
[19:31] <outbackwifi> souldier: paste that script from the pastebin
[19:31] <Fazer2> why are there no updates for intrepid since a week?
[19:31] <B3z3rk3r> kernando, lol.. well done =p
[19:31] <dvyjones> When trying to convert a video with libfaac (for audio), I get the error that libfaac is an unknown coded. I have installed ffmpeg from medibuntu, and tried to compile it from source, but neither works.
[19:32] <Pici> Fazer2: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid/8.10 support/discussion.
[19:32] <greencookie> What are some of the WMs I can use in Ubuntu?
[19:32] <the_eraser> yay opera 9.6 is out
[19:32] <outbackwifi> !windowmanager
[19:32] <Sonderblade> which package contains netbeans ide?
[19:32] <souldier> outbackwifi: done
[19:32] <souldier> is that it?
[19:32] <greencookie> er..
[19:32] <outbackwifi> greencookie: gnome, kde, xfce, fluxbox
[19:32] <B3z3rk3r> using Emerald is working out for me
[19:32] <david_> Desktop help?? My tool bars have disappeared, how can I recuperate them as I cant do anything without them.
[19:32] <outbackwifi> souldier: yes
[19:32] <Pici> Sonderblade: netbeans
[19:32] <kernando> B3z3rk3r hehe u have no idea how happy i am
[19:32] <SpudDogg> Sonderblade, apt-cache search netbeans
[19:32] <outbackwifi> souldier: did you start the server?
[19:33] <greencookie> outbackwifi: I'm currently using awesomeWM and was wondering which other WMs fell in its class?
[19:33] <souldier> no. i guess i most do something like ./xstartup ?
[19:33] <greencookie> outbackwifi: I dont want DM's like gnome or kde :)
[19:33] <atomekk> edlv: did you wrote exact skype (deb) filename ?
[19:33] <outbackwifi> greencookie: please dont conduct surveys here
[19:33] <greencookie> outbackwifi: thanks for the help. its not a survey, just a question. bye.
[19:33] <outbackwifi> souldier: nope, type vncserver and follow the prompts
[19:34] <souldier> outbackwifi: ok i did that... New 'X' desktop is souldier-laptop:2
[19:34] <outbackwifi> souldier: now connect from remote like so vncviewer thispc:2
[19:35] <rskumar_> how can I save the list of all the packages installed in current system. I need to reinstall from fresh, and then install all those packages.. manually listing them is a tedious task.
[19:35] <anabolix> i need to reinstall windows and im not sure if i should completely clean out ubuntu and windows or just format the part where windows is on... any thoughts or help on this?
[19:35] <souldier> outbackwifi: i dont understand why the :2 ?
[19:35] <outbackwifi> souldier: thats the display number
[19:35] <dvyjones> When trying to convert a video with libfaac (for audio), I get the error that libfaac is an unknown coded. I have installed ffmpeg from medibuntu, and tried to compile it from source, but neither works.
[19:35] <rskumar_> anabolix: you can just install windows on the same drive it is.. and then reinstall grub to mbr
[19:35] <outbackwifi> souldier: you prolly have something else on 1
[19:35] <dvyjones> Any ide how to get it to work?
[19:35] <dvyjones> s/ide/idea
[19:36] <souldier> ah i had rune the tightvncserver thing already
[19:36] <jperkins> outbackwifi: my xorg.conf is very bare compared to how it was last time i used linux last year..
[19:36] <souldier> didnt know it was already running
[19:36] <outbackwifi> rskumar_: just go to /var/cache/apt/archives
[19:36] <jperkins> i remember i could add the custom resolutions to a list that was already there
[19:36] <jperkins> but there's not even a list
[19:36] <anabolix> rskumar_: how would i install grub back into mbr? sorry i R new
[19:36] <outbackwifi> anabolix: grub-install /dev/hd?
[19:36] <rskumar_> outbackwifi: means... that contains downloaded packages. and most of them are deleted after sometime, if you dont change the settings in synaptic
[19:37] <atmahasan> سلام
[19:37] <anabolix> outbackwifi its as simple as that?
[19:37] <outbackwifi> !ar
[19:37] <Fazer2> do you know any good standalone IRC client like chatzilla? I'm on it right now as add-on to firefox, but the standalone version doesn't want to install
[19:37] <Pici> !sa | atmahasan
[19:37] <outbackwifi> anabolix: yes normally
[19:37] <shearn89> Fazer2: try xchat or irssi
[19:37] <anabolix> outbackwifi, thanks
[19:37] <Tundrayeti311> Fazer2: Standalone no, but i like pidgin
[19:38] <atmahasan> I in persian team
[19:38] <anabolix> exit
[19:38] <shearn89> try / quit
[19:38] <atmahasan> Iran
[19:38] <outbackwifi> !persian
[19:39] <shearn89> !ir
[19:39] <souldier> outbackwifi: how can i delete the :2 one i just created ?
[19:39] <[T]ank> whenever thunderbird maximizes it goes larger than my screen so that I cannot it the close button on the top right... how can I fix this?
[19:39] <rskumar_> anabolix: after you cleaned the windows drive, you need to install windows on same,, dont touch the linux drive.. when windows isntalls, it will wipe the mbr and write only its entry.. then after installation is finished,. load the Ubuntu live cd, and in cmd do the grun install , read the  grub man pages and other resources on internet and copy down the commands... and also beware about the Disk numbering in Grub, it starts with 0 while in linux it start
[19:39] <shearn89> [T]ank: you can hold alt and left click to move the window
[19:40] <outbackwifi> souldier: vncserver -kill :2
[19:40] <[T]ank> my resolution is set correctly... but thunderbird is maximizing perfectly just so that the menu drop downs are the very top.
[19:40] <rskumar_> anyone here, I need to save the list of all the packages I have installed in the current system
[19:40] <rskumar_> how can I generate the list of all installed packages
[19:40] <outbackwifi> rskumar_: just go to /var/cache/apt/archives and do a ls -l > packagelist.txt
[19:40] <x29a> hey folks, i just read about the cycle-killer thin with harddrives on ubuntu and that normally a harddrive has like 300000 to 600000 cycles. i just checked mine and i have 1.5M, should i be worried? did the patch, now no new parkings, check http://rafb.net/p/pyY22y26.html
[19:40] <[T]ank> shearn89: alt+ left click does not let me move it :-(
[19:41] <shearn89> rskumar_: try "dpkg -l" (thats an el not a 1)
[19:41] <david_> Help? Can anyone advise please. My menu bars at top/bottom have disappeared as I deleted some files yesterday. In terminal how can I recupate them?
[19:41] <shearn89> [T]ank: try hitting F11? It could be maximised to fullscreen.
[19:41] <Niosus> is this the channel to ask help?
[19:41] <outbackwifi> !ask | Niosus
[19:41] <[T]ank> shearn89: also no good....
[19:42] <chamuscas> does anyone knows how to solve the wine overlapping screen problem ?
[19:42] <shearn89> [T]ank: try alt and middle click? might let you resize it...
[19:42] <Rando_> How do I check for system updates via an SSH session?
[19:42] <[T]ank> i can minimize from right clicking on the task bar... but max is too big for the screen.
[19:42] <shearn89> rskumar_: if dpkg -l works, then use "dpkg -l >> packagelist.txt"
[19:42] <mape2345> Hello
[19:42] <souldier> outbackwifi: how do i know if its already listening?
[19:42] <Odd-rationale> Rando_: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[19:42] <Niosus> is there a way to make new windows open on top? everytime i open a window now it open under the active window
[19:42] <rskumar_> outbackwifi: i did said, that doesnt contain the list of installed packages. why didnt you verified it. that contains those packages which were downloaded. Like if you did only download not intall option, then there is problem.. also, note that the default settings always deletes the old packages after some days, so your list wont be guarenteed ...
[19:43] <[T]ank> shearn89: no on the middle click to.
[19:43] <rskumar_> shearn89: yup, seems a good option, let me try
[19:43] <outbackwifi> souldier: netstat -l should tell you (among other things)
[19:43] <[T]ank> everything else on the computer works just as it should. I only have this issue with Thunderbird
[19:43] <BrokenPipe> I'm running 8.10 through simply updating my sources.list, and there was a small upgrade today.  It seems to have changed bluetooth functionality.  Anyone familiar with that and could explain what happened? Where did the command 'hidd' go? That was the only way I could get my Apple Wireless Keyboard to work.
[19:43] <david_> Can anyone tell me please how to enter a new user?
[19:43] <Pici> !ibex | BrokenPipe
[19:43] <shearn89> [T]ank: i'm out of ideas i'm afraid...
[19:44] <SpudDogg> I just got finished installing ubuntu on my ps3, and tried rebooting...now it just sits at the kboot prompt.  nothing happens when i hit enter or any other key.  any ideas?
[19:44] <outbackwifi> rskumar_: sorry, try the method that shearn89 suggested
[19:44] <david_> I am the only person who has access tomy computer and I want to enter a new user, is it easy to do?
[19:44] <shearn89> david_: try something like system -> users? should be there somewhere.
[19:44] <outbackwifi> david_: systems--> administration--> users and groups
[19:44] <dvyjones> When trying to convert a video with libfaac (for audio), I get the error that libfaac is an unknown coded. I have installed ffmpeg from medibuntu, and tried to compile it from source, but neither works. Any idea on how to fix it?
[19:44] <shearn89> ^
[19:45] <rskumar_> outbackwifi: shearn89 , yes that is dpkg -l | awk '{ print $2 }' , solved it :) thanks you all a lot :)
[19:45] <dvyjones> Or how to convert files for MediaTomb to stream it on the PS3...
[19:45] <david_> shearn89  outbackwifi the problem is that I have lost my menu bars at top and bottom and the only access I have is to my terminal
[19:45] <david_> what do I type in my terminal?
[19:45] <shearn89> david_: its something like useradd. do "useradd --help"
[19:46] <mape2345> I have a question: I have a ubuntu server and I have to administer it remotely. I use SCP to connect to it but I want to have full access to all files (I would use private key auth). How can I get full access to all files? I read on ubuntu site that enabling root user is very bad and so on. I don't have any other solutions
[19:46] <shearn89> david_: you want to make sure you create a home directory for the new user.
[19:46] <david_> shearn89 how do I do that?
[19:46] <hateball> mape2345: ssh in and go about your business as normal
[19:46] <shearn89> rskumar_: np. I only recently discovered awk '{print $#}' - so useful.
[19:46] <hateball> mape2345: sudo and so on
[19:46] <Pici> david_: you should user adduser instead of useradd.
[19:46] <outbackwifi> mape2345: you need to connect to it using ssh and sudo
[19:46] <shearn89> david_: hit alt-f2, type xterm, and then do "adduser --help"
[19:46] <outbackwifi> mape2345: and then scp from there
[19:46] <mape2345> I use winscp and it doesn't allow any sudo's after login
[19:47] <hateball> mape2345: use putty
[19:47] <david_> If I create a new user will the gnome come back with the menu bars at top and bottorm or will it be the same?
[19:47] <outbackwifi> mape2345: and pscp
[19:47] <mape2345> Thanks, I will try
[19:47] <ward_> why does my wlan1 interface magically become wlan2 ???
[19:47] <david_> I just need to reinstate the menu bars, thinking a new user may do this
[19:47] <shearn89> david_: if you copy all the settings using the right adduser options, it should go back to normal.
[19:47] <Hilikus> does anyone know of a way to use MSN as a report system from ubuntu? either a bot thats always online or an app that logs in, sends the report and logs out??
[19:47] <hateball> david_: are you using compiz or something?
[19:47] <outbackwifi> ward_: what happened to wlan0 ?
[19:47] <david_> shearn89 - thks. In terminal do I type in     adduser
[19:48] <ward_> outbackwifi, it became wlan1 offcourse lol
[19:48] <outbackwifi> Hilikus: whats MSN?
[19:48] <david_> hateball what us compiz??
[19:48] <shearn89> david_: you want "adduser --help", and then read through the output.
[19:48] <Hilikus> outbackwifi msn messenger
[19:48] <hateball> david_: apparently not then ;)
[19:48] <MrKennie> Hilikus: probably easier to use something like jabber
[19:48] <david_> shearn89 will try - thks, Im getting desperate
[19:48] <strange> or irssi
[19:48] <strange> with bitlbee server
[19:48] <Hilikus> MrKennie i tried that but jabber doesnt support offline msn messages
[19:48] <dvyjones> When trying to convert a video with libfaac (for audio), I get the error that libfaac is an unknown coded. I have installed ffmpeg from medibuntu, and tried to compile it from source, but neither works. Any idea on how to fix it?
[19:49] <outbackwifi> !repeat | dvyjones
[19:49] <shearn89> dvyjones: try "apt-cache search libfaac"
[19:49] <shearn89> dvyjones: libfaac may not be installed.
[19:49] <exco> is there an Intrepid channel?
[19:49] <shearn89> exco: ubuntu+1
[19:49] <Pici> exco: #ubuntu+1
[19:49] <exco> thanks, shearn89, Pici
[19:51] <Niosus> how can i let new windows open on top of the other windows? atm it opens under the active window...
[19:51] <MrKennie> Hilikus: I think there are some python bindings for libmsn
[19:51] <kansan> i have a microsoft mouse, and i would like have it (1) when i click left & right buttons at same time it pastes stuff in the register (2) when i click the middle button it pastes the register.  currently neither works.  microsfot wireless mouse
[19:51] <david_> shearn89 I didn't get far at all!!! Is there no way I can reinstate the system to what is was at midnight yesterday like in Windows
[19:52] <Hilikus> MrKennie yes, but none of them AFAIK support offline messages which was implemente in msnp 13
[19:52] <eek> hi all
[19:52] <MrKennie> Hilikus: I see
[19:52] <shearn89> david_: you could wipe your home directory and start again?
[19:52] <eek> looking for help w/ wireshark. is anybody here familar and willing to lend a hand?
[19:53] <shearn89> eek: i know a little...
[19:53] <rockyrock> ﻿I use netbeans in ubuntu. When i develop a GUI app and run it, sometimes the window's content doesn't appear!
[19:53] <rockyrock> any ideas?
[19:53] <eek> shearn89 pm me please
[19:53] <david_> shearn89 do you think this will bring back the menu bars that have gone missing and causing me so much worry?
[19:53] <shearn89> david_: maybe. Have you tried right-clicking on the desktop, and going add toolbar?
[19:53] <david_> shearn89 when I right click it doesn't give me that option
[19:54] <R4V3N> quit
[19:54] <david_> If I minimize this screen it disappears completely
[19:54] <R4V3N> exit
[19:54] <david_> and I cant recuperate it
[19:54] <madrazr> when I run a cgi script in browser I get the error "The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request". So when I try to run the same script in shell I get his error, "Warning: unknown mime-type for "Content-type:text/html\n\n" -- using "application/*"
[19:54] <madrazr> can someone help me please?
[19:54] <shearn89> david_: ah. did adduser not give you anything?
[19:54] <l0calh0st> Someone know how to enable OSD display in Rhythmbox?
[19:55] <david_> I couldn't get anywhere with it. Do you know if I reload the program again I will lose all my files like pictures, videos, music etc.,?
[19:55] <david_> shearn89 this message above was for you - sorry
[19:55] <Skky> question - are there any scripts in the init.d folder that start up eth1 /
[19:56] <Skky> ?
[19:56] <Hagg1> Hai, how do I copy the vinagre-settings/bookmarks from one account to another?
[19:56] <david_> shearn89 or do you think its a home directory problem?
[19:56] <outbackwifi> Skky: no, the /etc/network/interfaces does that
[19:56] <LordKovu> anyone know of a good xml editor ?
[19:56] <shearn89> david_: If you reinstall ubuntu you'll lose it all. I'm not sure what's gone wrong though...
[19:56] <shearn89> david_: i'm out of ideas i'm afraid...
[19:57] <Frijolie> I'm trying to install a tarball and am getting an error during compile. Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by gnome-libs install
[19:57] <Frijolie> I've got the build-essential package installed...any ideas?
[19:57] <cdc_> Hey all, I am trying to setup a share drive on my ubuntu samba server to be accessible over the internet for me here at work. Ideally it will be a media folder that lets me play the music like a shared drive instead on downloaded the music then playing it on my work computer.
[19:57] <MrKennie> Frijolie: you need to install the relevant *-dev packages
[19:57] <david_> shearn89 then I wont reprogam!!! I am sure its a simple problem. I deleted some files last night and the menu bars aren't appearing and anything I minimize is lost of the screen so I cant recuperate. Im sure its something simple
[19:58] <Frijolie> MrKennie: how do you know what the relevant packages are?
[19:58] <david_> Just a question of having the luck someone might be able to help me?
[19:58] <Pici> david_: What files did you delete?
[19:58] <shearn89> david_: hmmm. You could try and find the recycle bin using the terminal.
[19:59] <MrKennie> Frijolie: use synaptics to search for them or use apt-cache search in a terminal
[19:59] <david_> Pici I deleted Evolution mail, avidemus, pykaraoke, Opera, Epiphany and limewire
[19:59] <Pici> david_: How did you delete them?
[19:59] <MrKennie> Frijolie: I think you need libgnome2-dev in your case but that should give you a clue for any further requirments
[19:59] <ward_> how can i keep the damn name of the wireless interface? :s
[19:59] <Frijolie> MrKennie: how do you know what *dev files I need to fix the error
[19:59] <ward_> ffs this is annoying
[20:00] <david_> Pici when I switched on the computer this morning I had no menu bars at the top or bottom of the screen. Without them I cant do anything as I have no access to Applications etc.,
[20:00] <david_> shearn89 how could I find the recycle bin?
[20:00] <Frijolie> MrKennie: I'm installing libgnome2-dev metapackage now..I'll see if that will help
[20:00] <outbackwifi> !trash
[20:00] <node357> ubottu should have a factoid on restoring panels :/
[20:00] <david_> shearn I am willing to try anything under the circumstances
[20:01] <Pici> david_: Have you tried the !resetpanels info from ubottu?
[20:01] <shearn89> !resetpanels
[20:01] <node357> ah!
[20:01] <david_> Pic no I havent
[20:01] <Frijolie> MrKennie: D'oh! Nope still getting same error
[20:01] <david_> how do I do that
[20:01] <shearn89> david_: that looks like it'll work.
[20:01] <Pici> david_: look what ubottu just said
[20:01] <shearn89> !reset panels | david_
[20:01] <MrKennie> Frijolie: what is it you are trying to install?
[20:01] <shearn89> !resetpanels | david_
[20:01] <Frijolie> drip
[20:02] <Frijolie> MrKennie: drip 0.9. A DVD ripper
[20:02] <MrKennie> Frijolie: dvdrip?
[20:02] <david_> Shearn89 I can try, b ut what is the character in between panels   ??  david_
[20:02] <Frijolie> MrKennie: no, not dvd::rip
[20:02] <MrKennie> Frijolie: ok, just making sure :)
[20:02] <bingungbangett> when i open amarok, errors appear "DCOP communication error, there was an error setting up inter-process communication fir KDE. The message return by the system was : could not open network socket, Please check that the DCOP server was running"  ----- anyone can help me out please ?
[20:02] <MrKennie> Frijolie: I guess you need to find out from the documentation what it requires to build and then you will need to find the -dev packages.
[20:03] <shearn89> david_: the command is written by ubotu a few posts above mine.
[20:03] <chamuscas> does anyone know how to solve the overlapping screen problem of wine ?
[20:03] <Tundrayeti311> bingungbangett: Are you using KDE? Is DCOP running?
[20:03] <Frijolie> MrKennie: it's looking for gnomeConfig.sh in /usr/local/lib. Never heard of that file..I'll check the docs again
[20:04] <MrKennie> Frijolie: look at ./configure --help too
[20:04] <chamuscas> does anyone know how to solve the overlapping screen problem of wine ?
[20:04] <chamuscas> does anyone know how to solve the overlapping screen problem of wine ?
[20:04] <Tundrayeti311> !repeat | chamuscas
[20:04] <techsupport> anyone familiar with how to add a share to Active Directory with samba - smb.conf ?
[20:04] <bingungbangett> Tundrayeti311 : sorry i'm newbie for ubuntu, i'm using Ubuntu, should be GNOME right ? and I don't know waht's DCOP is
[20:04] <Sa[i]nT> What's the offtopic chan?
[20:04] <chamuscas> !patience
[20:04] <shearn89> !offtopic
[20:05] <souldier> i just installed tightvnc, and connected to another tightvnc server also on ubuntu and for some reason i just get a terminal window when i connect
[20:05] <souldier> no desktop
[20:05] <chamuscas> ok :)
[20:05] <Frijolie> well they have an option in there "./configure --without-pic", which I'm using, but still get the error
[20:05] <Frijolie> MrKennie:
[20:06] <souldier>  i just installed tightvnc, and connected to another tightvnc server also on ubuntu and for some reason i just get a terminal window when i connect
[20:06] <souldier>  no desktop
[20:06] <david_> shearn89 tried what ubottu told me but that command doesnt exist?
[20:06] <MrKennie> Frijolie: drip looks a bit dead to me, last package ubuntu had was in gutsy.
[20:06] <shearn89> david_: what this "gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel"?
[20:07] <david_> shearn89 I'd like to try in terminal  !reset panels but which character is the line in between panels and david_?
[20:07] <Frijolie> MrKennie: you've had experience with dvd::rip?
[20:07] <ferronica> i can open and edit menu.lst without sudo :(
[20:07] <bingungbangett> Tundrayeti311 : can u explain and help me please
[20:07] <shearn89> david_: no no - you don't type !resetpanels in the terminal, you type "gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel" without the quotes.
[20:07] <edlv> what is a home directory?
[20:07] <Tundrayeti311> bingungbangett: yeah default for ubuntu is gnome... i get this error sometimes too... see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=472949
[20:07] <shearn89> edlv: where all your docs are stored, like my documents.
[20:08] <david_> shearn89 I did that and was told no command found
[20:08] <MrKennie> Frijolie: yes, it's not bad. There are some good guides on using it.
[20:08] <shearn89> david_: really? hmmm... let me google.
[20:08] <edlv> shearn89:home folder
[20:08] <shearn89> edlv: yeah - its like "my documents" on windows.
[20:08] <Fazer> testing xchat-gnome
[20:08] <edlv> shearn89:so..thats the home directory?
[20:09] <bingungbangett> Tundrayeti311 : thx for the link, i go find out first, thx
[20:09] <shearn89> edlv: yah.
[20:09] <edlv> thanks shearn89
[20:09] <Tundrayeti311> bingungbangett: np
[20:09] <shearn89> david_: got it (i think)
[20:09] <shearn89> david_: can you see internet?
[20:10] <david_> shearn89 uff!!! hope so Im getting desperate
[20:10] <david_> shearn89 I can get into it somehow in a round about way
[20:10] <shearn89> david_: as long as you can see the web page, it should work.
[20:10] <david_> i will try anything shearn89
[20:10] <shearn89> david_: have a look here: http://www.watchingthenet.com/restore-panels-in-ubuntu-back-to-their-default-settings.html
[20:10] <abhishek> hi all
[20:10] <jamiejackson> what's the most no-fuss smtp solution for ubuntu? i just need to be able to send out emails from apps i develop (and not allow any external relaying through it)
[20:11] <david_> shearn89 I will give it a try. Many thks, report back later.
[20:11] <shearn89> david_: cool.
[20:11] <Frijolie> MrKennie: alright, maybe I'll just give that a try I guess "dvd::rip"
[20:13] <_21h_> hi all
[20:13] <_21h_> i want to sync my nokia 6230 with evolution contacts
[20:13] <_21h_> how to do this?
[20:13] <shearn89> _21h_: not sure. have you tried google?
[20:13] <soundray> _21h_: check out gnokii
[20:14] <Myrtti> _21h_: opensync / multisync might do it
[20:14] <Slart> _21h_: try some of the mobile phone apps available.. yammu, gnokii, multisync and so on
[20:14] <_21h_> soundray, gnokii have pipe to evo?
[20:14] <Freakin_Busy> hey, i want to make a stand alone web server to do many things. i want it to stream audio, host apache, host FTP, as well as host irc bots. Is the ubuntu server the right thing for this?
[20:14] <shamus> Distrobution upgrade is stuck on removing nvidia-kernel-common (unused package), would it kill my system to force quit the disto upgrade?
[20:15] <soundray> _21h_: I don't know, but you may need gnokii to communicate with it *at all*
[20:15] <shearn89> Freakin_Busy: yep - there's an "install lamp" option which sets up a lamp server really easily. Then you can stick mt-daapd on it to stream music.
[20:15] <eTiger13> http://wiki.gandi.net/en/hosting/using-linux/tutorials/ubuntu/virtualhosts on step2, why are there two directory folders?
[20:15] <Freakin_Busy> shamus, walk away for 10 mins and wait for it
[20:16] <shamus> Freakin_Busy, it's been running for about 20 minutes already
[20:16] <Freakin_Busy> and the ftp and apache i can just add respectively?
[20:16] <shearn89> Freakin_Busy: LAMP sets up apache, mysql, php. I'm sure you can then add the IRC and ftp bits.
[20:16] <souldier> can someone help me with a VNC related problem?
[20:16] <shearn89> souldier: hit me with the qu.
[20:16] <Freakin_Busy> ok.. sounds good
[20:17] <Slart> !ask | souldier
[20:17] <_snoopin_> can i install ebox to manage squid when squid has already been installed on the box earlier. and its still running
[20:17] <Freakin_Busy> shamus, if it's stuck you don't have much options do you?
[20:17] <shamus> Freakin_Busy, I suppose, but would it break my install?
[20:17] <Slart> _snoopin_: I think so, yes.. I don't think squid needs to be restarted.
[20:17] <Freakin_Busy> you'd have to do it again
[20:17] <ferronica> i can open and edit menu.lst without sudo ?
[20:17] <shearn89> shamus: i've found its normally pretty sturdy. Try and cancel it. You should be okay as long as you don't reboot.
[20:18] <yash> hello can someone help me with the installation process? i'm having a hard time with it.
[20:18] <ferronica> can anyone help me please:(
[20:18] <shearn89> yash: ask away.
[20:18] <souldier> shearn89: i installed tighvnc on a pc, and added some code on the xtstart file so i could connect to vn even without having to physically login on the other pc, but for some reason when i connect, I just get a gray screen with a terminal
[20:18] <jasuus> how long does it take for newly released versions to be found on the archive?  as in python 2.6 isnt there
[20:18] <shearn89> !ask | ferronica
[20:18] <Slart> ferronica: nope.. you can't
[20:18] <_snoopin_> Slart: i've tried that before. but when i login to ebox, the cache is grayed. and i can't manage the squid
[20:18] <Pici> !latest | jasuus
[20:18] <yash> im not getting past the menu of the install menu
[20:18] <abhishek> Does any one know about software that bypass proxy restrictation on ubuntu besides JAP and your freedom
[20:19] <Slart> _snoopin_: might be something else that is wrong then.. or I've misunderstood how ebox works. I've only tried it once or twice
 yes it is
[20:19] <kansan> i have a microsoft mouse, and i would like have it (1) when i click left & right buttons at same time it pastes stuff in the register (2) when i click the middle button it pastes the register.  currently neither works.  microsfot wireless mouse
[20:19] <Freakin_Busy> yash, go into the live boot first
 i can do it :(
[20:19] <david_> shearn89 This could be a solution which I will try, but the character which is a squiggly hyphen which is it?
[20:19] <shearn89> souldier: don't you need to start X on the remote server? I've only just started using ssh, so i could be wrong.
[20:19] <_snoopin_> could you please point me where to go to set the ebox to work with my squid?
[20:19] <shearn89> david_: its a tilde - either above the hash on a gb keyboard, or sometimes in the top left of the keyboard.
 dont know how, just double click then, click on display edit then save
[20:20] <shamus> shearn89: you wouldn't happen to know the name of the process, would you?
[20:20] <yash> i have tried this Freakin_busy but does not work either... thats why i am ??
 dont know whats going on,
[20:20] <shearn89> shamus: for the update? is it in a terminal?
[20:20] <Pici> ferronica: Open a terminal, type whoami and press enter.  What does it say?
[20:20] <Slart> ferronica: the file menu.list is owned by root.. you need to run an editor as root.. or use sudoedit to edit it
[20:20] <david_> shearn89 it isnt on my keyboard!! Any suggestions
[20:20] <Slart> ferronica: sorry.. menu.lst
[20:20] <shearn89> david_: just replace it with "/home/<username>/"
[20:20] <ferronica> Pici: student
[20:21] <shearn89> david_: so i think its "/home/david/.gconf/apps" or whatever.
[20:21] <_snoopin_> what is the best soft ware for irc in ubuntu 8.04
[20:21] <shamus> shearn89: It's a partial upgrade inside of distro upgrade because something was broken and it decided it wanted to download pretty much everything again
[20:21] <Pici> !best | _snoopin_
[20:21] <dvyjones> irssi :D
 but here no, just double click edit save
[20:21] <ichbinesderelch> _snoopin_: no best software, depens on what you like :P
[20:21] <david_> shearn89 I found it thks. be back soon, fingers crossed!
[20:21] <shearn89> _snoopin_: a matter of personal choice, but i like xchat or irssi.
 i am not logged in as root
[20:21] <shearn89> shamus: are you using synaptic or the terminal?
[20:21] <kwyjibo> is there a way to make kde apps automatically mimic my current GTK+ theme?
[20:21] <jgold> I'm using the gimp version 2.4.5-1ubuntu2 on Ubuntu 8.04 and I'm finding that all the image filters are grayed out.  Does that mean I need some extra package or have I just screwed something up somehow?  How do I fix it?
[20:21] <shearn89> david_: cool.
[20:21] <shamus> shearn89: synaptic
[20:22] <Pici> ferronica: And what does ls -l /boot/grub/menu.lst   say?
[20:22] <shearn89> shamus: i think there's a task manager clone somewhere in the system menu.
[20:22] <_snoopin_> can you mention atlease one? i don't see it in the internet section in application
[20:22] <jasuus> where do we usually put src files?
[20:22] <yash> i am stuck with the installation menu of ubuntu... can someone help on this?
[20:22] <shearn89> _snoopin_: try xchat.
[20:22] <Slart> !in!in | ferronica
[20:22] <Slart> !in | ferronica
[20:22] <shearn89> yash: which bit?
[20:22] <yash> installation
[20:23] <rockyrock> how can i create pdfs with ubuntu?? is there any software for that like Acrobat?
[20:23] <yash> the installation wont start
[20:23] <danbh_intrepid> _snoopin_: pidgin is the default irc client in ubuntu
[20:23] <shearn89> yash: which bit of the installation? there's lots of steps...
[20:23] <_snoopin_> i have to install that first right, shearn89?
[20:23] <ActionParsni1> !medibuntu > ActionParsnip
[20:23] <shearn89> _snoopin_: yeah i think so.
[20:23] <Slart> ferronica: I'm having problems understanding you.. perhaps you'd be better off asking someone else
[20:23] <ActionParsni1> rockyrock: you should have a pdf printer already installed
[20:23] <shearn89> yash: can you give us more info?
[20:23] <yash> the first one... im not getting past the ubuntu loading screen...
 Pici: -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6077 2008-10-09 00:12 /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:23] <david_> shearn89 what a nightmare! I typed in the first line gconftool--recursive.unset etc., and up came   -bash no such file command
[20:23] <shearn89> yash: ah okay - try starting in safe graphics mode.
[20:23] <x29a> ok, no feedback, fine, im concerned anyway, take care
[20:23] <yash> what do you want to know...
[20:24] <rockyrock> ActionParsni1: what do you mean by pdf printer?
[20:24] <ActionParsni1> yash: try disabling acpi
[20:24] <Slart> rockyrock: I don't think there's anything in linux like acrobat.. but many programs can export to pdf.. openoffice and such
[20:24] <shearn89> david_: ah okay. I found a simpler solution just now. hold onl.
[20:24] <_snoopin_> danbh_intrepid: omg...i don't realize that. i only use pidgin to logini to my im such as yahoo and msn
 no problem
[20:24] <ActionParsni1> rockyrock: choose print and choose the pdf printer
[20:24] <david_> shearn89 you really have patience, appreciated
 Pici knows me :)
[20:24] <ActionParsni1> rockyrock: it will write  a pdf
[20:24] <jasuus> how do i unzip bziped files?
[20:24] <vallhalla81> hi there i was installing ubuntu to a second drive and it seems to have mesed up my grub i am using live cd to talk now grub error is error15 can i fix this?
[20:24] <ActionParsni1> jasuus: bunzip
[20:24] <Pici> ferronica: The permissions are not set correctly.  sudo chmod 644 /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:24] <rockyrock> Slart, ActionParsni1: i want to scan them from my scanner
[20:24] <danbh_intrepid> _snoopin_: yeah, just go to accounts, and add an irc account
[20:24] <jgold> Why would the gimp have all its filters grayed out?  Is there some extra package necessary?
[20:25] <shearn89> david_: here you go: "cd ~/.gconf/apps" then "mv panel panel.old", then hit ctrl-alt-backspace.
[20:25] <yash> shearn89... my ubuntu installation starts... it says busybox installer... then it goes on listing some command lines...
[20:25] <ferronica> Pici: i think all permission granted :(
[20:25] <ichbinesderelch> vallhalla81: reinstalling grub would be easiest solution
[20:25] <ferronica> Pici: i think all permission granted :(
[20:25] <Pici> ferronica: yes, It shouln't be set like that.
[20:25] <_snoopin_> thanks
[20:25] <shearn89> yash: busybox? are you using ubuntu ultimate?
[20:25] <ActionParsni1> rockyrock: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/scan-to-pdf-using-gscan2pdf-in-ubuntu.html
[20:25] <yash> tried even test cd and it goes the same
[20:25] <vallhalla81> ﻿ichbinesderelch: how would i do that please?
[20:25] <ferronica> Pici: but i did nothing to permission
[20:25] <Pici> ferronica: It wouldn't do it on its own.
[20:25] <ferronica> Pici: should i run the above command
[20:25] <Pici> ferronica: yes.
[20:25] <yash> no the desktop edition
[20:25] <ferronica> Pici: ok
[20:26] <ActionParsni1> !codecs > ActionParsnip
[20:26] <vallhalla81> !grub
[20:26] <yash> got the cd shipped today...
[20:26] <shearn89> yash: is there an error code or anything?
[20:26] <ActionParsni1> !codecs
[20:26] <jasuus> ah its bunzip2
[20:26] <ActionParsni1> jasuus: tab completion rocks ;)
[20:26] <Slart> vallhalla81: grub errors often happens when grub can't find the boot devices/hard drives/partitions because something's changed since the install.. you can always reinstall grub.. check the forums.. there are lots and lots of threads about grub problems
[20:26] <david_> shearn89 sounds difficult but will try and come back
[20:27] <shearn89> david_: it should be fine. you're not deleting the panel file, just moving it.
[20:27] <yash> no shearn89... just says something like [ XXX.XXXX] XXXX XXXXXX { } frozen
[20:27] <yash> and then it goes and goes
[20:27] <david_> shearn89 again no command found.
[20:27] <ferronica> Pici: did nothing happend :(
[20:28] <Tundrayeti311> If I wanted to setup a master directory on a server, and be able to have clients sync up to directory only for old, missing, versions of files in this directory, where would I start?
[20:28] <shearn89> david_: really?? you're just moving a file tho.. It must have the "mv" command.
[20:28] <Pici> ferronica: try modifying it without sudo now.
[20:28] <david_> I think I am gonig to try and retrieve any files and reprogram, its incredibel such a simple fault that I have to go to this extreme no?
[20:28] <sudoconfused> cya david_
[20:28] <ActionParsni1> vallhalla81: you need to find out what the error means
[20:28] <yash> it does not work likde described in the support forum
[20:28] <shearn89> david_: you're typing without the quotes yeah?
[20:28] <ActionParsni1> vallhalla81: the fact that grub errors means its installed, just not configured right
[20:28] <yash> im a bit lost with the installer shearn89
[20:28] <vallhalla81> ﻿ActionParsni1: looking in to it now ty
[20:29] <shearn89> yash: okay. When you put the cd in and reboot, try choosing "safe graphics mode" from the menu.
[20:29] <ferronica> Pici: without sudo i can modify :(
[20:29] <david_> shearn89 I literally typed in     cd~/.gconf/apps    with no spaces and intro and up came no command found
[20:29] <shearn89> david_: ah - you need a space between cd and ~
[20:29] <Slart> Tundrayeti311: you want people to be able to download these files from some kind of server?
[20:29] <ActionParsni1> vallhalla81: you probably need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to use correct devices and make sure /etc/fstab is mounting the drives properly
[20:29] <node357> always mind the spaces david :)
[20:29] <shearn89> david_: cd is the command and ~/etc the arguments.
[20:29] <Pici> ferronica: Thats odd. I need to run right now, perhaps someone else can help.
[20:30] <ferronica> Pici: student@student-desktop:~$ sudo chmod 644 /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:30] <ferronica> student@student-desktop:~$ ls -l /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:30] <ferronica> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6077 2008-10-09 00:57 /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:30] <Tundrayeti311> Slart: yeah, but only old, missing ones, not the whole thing
[20:30] <shearn89> !pastebin | ferronica
[20:30] <asonge_> anyone got laptop suggestions in a nutshell for ubuntu? i'd like a laptop with more than 800px of vertical space, but anyway
[20:30] <gusx> quit
[20:30] <Slart> Tundrayeti311: so you want people to only be able to get a few files.. not all of them?
[20:30] <cipherz> d
[20:30] <yash> okay shearn89.. ill try this and check what happens
[20:30] <yash> thanks
[20:30] <Tundrayeti311> Slart: I guess i need some sort of revision control? know any for linux?
[20:30] <shearn89> yash: np. post again if  you get stuck.
[20:30] <SurfnKid> hi, i have a problem that a Sony camera doesnt mount on ubuntu
[20:30] <cipherz> hello, I have made a persistent pendrive, it works great and all but, when I make changes such as add a user, it is added - but when I reboot it is gone
[20:30] <ActionParsni1> asonge_: lenovo make goodubuntu fiendly systems
[20:30] <yash> quit
[20:31] <SurfnKid> it says it cannot mount volume, and the error message on the syslog is something about flush
[20:31] <asonge_> ActionParsni1: i got that impression, do i have to watch for broadcom chipsets?
[20:31] <ferronica> Pici: any idea whats going on ?
[20:31] <SurfnKid> can someone help me find out why on one computer it mounts, and on another computer the camera is turned on via usb and the system doesnt mount it?
[20:31] <Tundrayeti311> slart: I want people to be able to update this directory on their machine w/o copying over the whole thing
[20:31] <Slart> Tundrayeti311: I would just put the files on some kind of ftp server/samba/nfs server.. doesn't really matter.. and then use rsync or similar from the clients
[20:31] <ActionParsni1> asonge_: i do personally but some people dont mind them
[20:31] <ActionParsni1> !hcl | asonge_
[20:31] <asonge_> Tundrayeti311: subversion seems to be the de facto standard, git is great
[20:31] <Chandan> Hi madhu, are u there, I am chandan
[20:31] <david_> shearn89 tried that an all it does is place a $ sign an nothing else
[20:31] <Slart> Tundrayeti311: it's hard for the server to know what files the client needs.. leave that to the client
[20:32] <SurfnKid> can anyone tell me how to fix an automount problem?
[20:32] <asonge_> ActionParsni1: you still can't ad-hoc on them is the issue...and i have an iphone i like to tether to over wifi on roadtrips
[20:32] <Tundrayeti311> slart: asonge_: ok, ty for help
[20:32] <kansan> how come audacious can't play a mp3 stream; http://www.radioparadise.com/musiclinks/rp_128-1.m3u .. when i click open location in audacious i get:  ERROR: neon: neon.c:1157 (neon_aud_vfs_getc_impl): <0x8356d68> Could not getc()!; id3_file_vfsopen: file failed;
[20:32] <Slart> !rsync
[20:32] <kane77> can anyone help me. I'm having an emergency here. All of a sudden my /home partition disapeared (system can't find one) so I can't even login. How can I diagnose the problem?
[20:32] <ActionParsni1> asonge_: you could use bluetooth
[20:32] <asonge_> ActionParsni1: not on the iphone afaik
[20:32] <shearn89> david_: okay. close the terminal, then hit alt-f2, type "xterm" (without quotes), and then copy and paste the following:      cd ~/.gconf/apps & mv panel panel.old & ls
[20:32] <ActionParsni1> asonge_: ive no idea
[20:32] <Slart> kane77: boot from a live cd.. see if the home partition is still there
[20:33] <asonge_> iphone bluetooth is neutered to all hell
[20:33] <david_> shearn89 will try
[20:33] <Slart> kane77: gparted would work for an initial check
[20:33] <xomp> Yes, here it is :) http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e285/xomp/1223481109515.jpg
[20:33] <kane77> Slart: ok, will try that now, be right back and will let you know
[20:33] <xomp> whoops, wrong window. sorry
[20:33] <shearn89> david_: oh wait - the & should be &&.... sorry.
[20:34] <chamuscas> hello, i have a problem with wine. When i execute an windows aplication my screen splits into two unfocased screens
[20:34] <ActionParsni1> chamuscas: try #wine
[20:34] <genii> #winehq even
[20:34] <david_> shearn89 it didnt work it said display isnt set so I cant move
[20:34] <ActionParsni1> chamuscas: or see if there is a config you need to manipulate
[20:34] <ActionParsni1> genii: that too
[20:35] <chamuscas> ActionParnsil, i already tried it and already read the ubuntu wine
[20:35] <david_> shearn89 Think it will be easier to take out all my files to DVD and reinstall
[20:35] <chamuscas> ActionParsnil, i'll try those ones tank you :)
[20:35] <shearn89> david_: no it should work.
[20:35] <ActionParsni1> chamuscas: you could rename to ~/.wine folder then rerun, it will regenerate the folder
[20:35] <shearn89> david_: try the commands individually:     cd ~/.gconf/apps           then            mv panel panel.old              then            ls.
[20:35] <david_> shearn89 but nothing happened after it said display isnt set
[20:35] <chamuscas> ActionParsnil, wait a config, i already tried it but =/ didn't find anything usefull
[20:35] <shearn89> david_: ^^
[20:36] <ActionParsni1> chamuscas: does it do it with allapps?
[20:36] <bjytech> hey when I enable the "NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (latest cards)" driver after I re-boot all I get is a gray screen, any ideas?
[20:36] <david_> shearn89 but when I type in cd etc., it says command not found
[20:36] <ActionParsni1> bjytech: what nvidia do you have?
[20:36] <bjytech> 8600gt m
[20:36] <shearn89> david_:  you have to put the space between "cd" and "~/.gconf/apps"
[20:37] <ActionParsni1> bjytech: try removing it then sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[20:37] <chamuscas> ActionParsnil, are we talking about the same problem :p, it's like this when i use a windows program two overlapped screens appear
[20:37] <david_> shearn89 I have tried that but still the same.  Let's not waste anymore of your time... Thanks anyway
[20:37] <bjytech> ok
[20:37] <ActionParsni1> bjytech: ive not set that card up myself
[20:37] <Bruce_Wayne> hi .. how do i register a nick ? and how do i get irssi to bring me here as soon as it starts ?
[20:37] <chamuscas> ActionParsnil, i have a ati
[20:37] <shearn89> david_: oh well... sorry. sounds quite messed up if cd isn't even there.
[20:37] <Slart> !register | Bruce_Wayne
[20:37] <ActionParsni1> !register | Bruce_Wayne
[20:37] <david_> shearn89 thks again wishe me luck
[20:37] <Slart> Bruce_Wayne: and you need to add servers and channels in irssi.. check the help file or the irssi site
[20:37] <shearn89> david_: good luck mate! i'd go for a reinstall. sounds totally screwed.
[20:38] <Bruce_Wayne> Slart: thanks
[20:38] <shearn89> Bruce_Wayne: do a google for "irssi autostart script" or something similar.
[20:38]  * shearn89 is going to get ready to go out.
[20:38] <Slart> cd isn't an executable file.. it's not like you can loose it..
[20:38] <shearn89> Slart: either way, its well messed.
[20:39] <Bruce_Wayne> Slart: how does one do a dcc file send thru irssi ?
[20:39] <jgold> Hello.  I'm trying to use a blur filter with the gimp on Ubuntu 8.04, but all of the individual blur options (gaussian and so on) are grayed out.  How can I fix that?
[20:39] <qb|work>  /dcc i guess?
[20:39] <Slart> Bruce_Wayne: no idea.. haven't tried
[20:39] <MasterAslan> does anyone know how to enable channels 12-13 on wireless.  Specifically with b43 drivers.
[20:39] <jgold> I've tried a few google searches on the topic but found nothing informative.
[20:40] <Tanalark> hi, all.
[20:40] <Tanalark> so.. .quick questions:
[20:40] <Slart> jgold: what kind of image are you editing?
[20:40] <jgold> It's an XCF.
[20:40] <Tanalark> how do I find out what kernel I'm using?
[20:40] <Bodsda> jgold, you may have more luck in #gimp
[20:40] <MasterAslan> Tanalark: uname -r
[20:40] <shearn89> jgold: have you installed all the extras?
[20:40] <jgold> Bodsda: thanks.  I'll try that.  Though this doesn't seem to happen on Fedora.
[20:40] <Slart> jgold: not all filters are available for all formats.. ie 2 color black and white  and so on
[20:40] <Tanalark> also, I'm working with an Intel Wireless Pro 3945 ABG card..
[20:40] <jgold> shearn89: what extras?
[20:41] <jgold> shearn89: do I need some additional package?  What's the name of it?
[20:41] <Tanalark> apparently Hardy stopped including the specific driver for that card, so I'm trying to find it.
[20:41] <jgold> What would have filters?
[20:41] <Mixed_--_> anyone knows how to setup a file and printer sharing only to local IP's???
[20:41] <Bodsda> jgold, it seems strange that the blurs are greyed out, heir standard so no extras needed afaik -- maybe try reinstalling gimp as a last resort
[20:41] <Bruce_Wayne> does anyone know how to dcc file send in irssi ?
[20:41] <Tanalark> I heard that iwlwifi is the thing to use, but I don't know how to find and install it.
[20:41] <jgold> Bodsda: okay, I'll give that a shot.  Thanks for the suggestions.
[20:41] <Slart> jgold: try just selecting new, template 640x480.. then see if blur is still disabled
[20:41] <Bodsda> no probs jgold :)
[20:41] <erUSUL> Bruce_Wayne: /dcc send nick file (or something like that) &help dcc has all the details
[20:41] <Tanalark> by the way, thanks, MasterAslan
[20:41] <MasterAslan> yw
[20:42] <Grenyaris> Running Ubuntu server, and I create a new user account with password, then login, and it tells me "no directory. logging in with home=/"   SO what did I do wrong?
[20:42] <jgold> Slart: aha!  It's not grayed out on that!  That should enable me to work around the issue.  Thank you!
[20:42] <[T]ank> what program handles a .uif extension?
[20:42] <Bodsda> Grenyaris, can you confirm the directory definately doesnt exist?
[20:42] <Slart> jgold: check colour depth, if you're using RGB and so on
[20:42] <greencookie> Where can I get a list of native ubuntu apps?(like xclock)
[20:43] <Bruce_Wayne> help dcc
[20:43] <jgold> Slart: will do.  Thanks again.
[20:43] <Tanalark> ok.. so it looks like i'm using the 2.6.24-19 kernel... which is supposed to have iwlwifi drivers already installed.
[20:43] <Grenyaris> I didn't create the directory, and yes, it does not exist...I though it created everything on first login?
[20:43] <Sonderblade> is j2ee available as an ubuntu package?
[20:43] <Tanalark> but my wireless card is still going crazy.  any ideas?
[20:43] <rockyrock> i can't update my system! I always get this error when i try to reload Synatpic list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/55393/  any ideas?
[20:44] <jgold> Slart: it's indexed color.  That makes sense.
[20:44] <Slart> rockyrock: try using another mirror
[20:44] <Slart> jgold: yes.. that would make sense
[20:44] <MasterAslan> anyone know how to enable wireless channels 12 and 13?
[20:44] <stweston> hello, all. I'm having trouble installing Lynx on my Ubuntu Server install.
[20:45] <rockyrock> Slart: i dont want to do that! I have a slow internet!
[20:45] <kane77> Slart, I'm back.. The problem seemed to fix itself.. I rebooted and booted into livecd, one of the disks was missing there, I turned off the computer and then turned it on and booted normal system and everything seems to be in order..
[20:45] <rockyrock> Slart: i have Dialup
[20:45] <Slart> kane77: well.. let's blame .. eh.. solar flares then =)
[20:45] <rockyrock> Slart: do you have another solution?
[20:45] <stweston> anyone?
[20:45] <Bodsda> Grenyaris, yes it should -- not too sure hat the prob is -- have you tried creating the user again?
[20:45] <Slart> rockyrock: why would that keep you from changing mirrors?
[20:46] <Tanalark> anyone?
[20:46] <kane77> Slart, hmm.. let's. It is very weird and I'm not sure if I should be worried about my disk.. What can I do to check it?
[20:46] <rockyrock> Slart: cuz the system will reload the source list again from start!
[20:46] <guntbert> Grenyaris: how did you create the new user? with adduser?
[20:46] <stweston> I need help installing Lynx on my Ubuntu Server installation.
[20:46] <stweston> can anyone help?
[20:47] <anders_> isn't it in the repos ?
[20:47] <Slart> Tanalark: if you don't get an answer just repeat your questions every 10 minutes or so.. that will give newly arrived people a chance to see it.. just asking "anyone?" in this channel usually get drowned out.. noone wants to search for your last line to see what the actual problem was
[20:47] <anders_> try sudo apt-get install lynx
[20:47] <stweston> I did
[20:47] <stweston> it doesn't work
[20:47] <anders_> can you be more specific ?
[20:47] <stweston> I'm getting errors
[20:47] <serge> cwirc
[20:47] <Slart> kane77: you can use s.m.a.r.t if your disk supports it.. take a look at smartctl
[20:47] <stweston> saying "the package has no installation candidate"
[20:47] <greencookie> what program displays my computer information like memory usage and hdd space. something like the applet in fluxbox.
[20:48] <pronoy_> how do i uninstall wine and reinstall it ??
[20:48] <Guest28212> I have lost my menu bars top/bottom of the screen. Thru terminal can I burn files to disc????
[20:48] <Slart> rockyrock: well.. you're going to have to reload that list anyways.. if you don't want to reload it you can ignore the error
[20:48] <mstrobert> Guest28212, genisoimage -R -J . > /tmp/iso && wodim speed=8 /tmp/iso
[20:48] <rockyrock> Slart: but that error will be fixed by the server's owner right?
[20:49] <Tanalark> My Intel Pro/Wireless 3945 ABG wireless card is going crazy.  I heard the way to go was to use iwlwifi, but I'm using the 2.6.24-19 kernel... which is supposed to have iwlwifi drivers already installed.  any ideas?
[20:49] <Slart> rockyrock: might be.. but you'll never know if you don't reload the list
[20:49] <Guest28212> mstrobert - dont understand. Once I am in terminal what do I type in?
[20:49] <MasterAslan> pronoy_: sudo apt-get purge wine
[20:49] <rockyrock> Slart: i like Japanese servers they're very fast
[20:49] <MasterAslan> pronoy_: then sudo apt-get install wine
[20:49] <Slart> greencookie: lshw is a terminal command for it.. there might be a gui tool too
[20:49] <mstrobert> Guest28212, go to the dir that you want to burn to CD. Then type:  genisoimage -R -J . > /tmp/iso && wodim speed=8 /tmp/iso
[20:49] <MasterAslan> Tanalark: in what way is it going crazy?
[20:49] <Slart> rockyrock: then find another japanese mirror
[20:50] <rockyrock> Slart: :(
[20:50] <Tanalark> well, i'm able to use it right now.  But periodically, it will just cut out.  Usually right after I've started a package download or the like.
[20:50] <Tanalark> anything that requires any significant bandwidth
[20:50] <Guest28212> mstrobert I dont have menu bars on the screen so can only use the terminal command. I wont be able to go to any director no?
[20:50] <MasterAslan> Tanalark: and it doesn't do this with windows?
[20:51] <Guest28212> mstrobert after the prompt in the terminal I need to type in what command?
[20:51] <Tanalark> nope.. working just perfectly.
[20:51] <mstrobert> Guest28212, if you have a terminal open, you can change to any directory by typing:   cd  directorynameHere        For example:  cd /home/bob/Documents
[20:51] <Tanalark> never stopped working at all.
[20:51] <greencookie> what is a good resource manager for ubuntu?
[20:51] <mstrobert> Guest28212, then the command you type to burn that directory to CD is: genisoimage -R -J . > /tmp/iso && wodim speed=8 /tmp/iso
[20:51] <brian__> Could someone answer what I hope is a quicky? I want to dual boot my machine with wubi.  My question, is if I install 8.04, will I be able to do an upgrade within Ubuntu when 8.10 comes out, or would I have to reinstall completely?
[20:51] <MasterAslan> Tanalark: to be honest not really sure what to do.
[20:52] <MasterAslan> brian__: yes you will
[20:52] <Slart> greencookie: there is also lshw-gtk ..
[20:52] <Guest28212> mstrobert thks will try
[20:52] <mstrobert> Guest28212, you're welcome. I hope that works for you.
[20:52] <dfgas> i am looking for something to limit what times for example 9pm-8am that kids are not aloud on the computer and stuff like that, how do i do this? what do i need?
[20:52] <Grenyaris> guntbert, yes with adduser, but that is all I used "sudo adduser username"
[20:52] <Tanalark> I understand... do you have any idea where I might go for answers?  I'm at the intellinuxwireless.org website, and they aren't very helpful.
[20:52] <Slart> brian__: these days you should be able to update to the next version when it comes out
[20:52] <brian__> Masteraslan: Thanks a ton! 8.10 still seems a bit buggy, and I'm going to install this on my work computer.
[20:53] <Slart> brian__: there were some problems with the earlier versions.. but the ubuntu guys are getting better =)
[20:53] <MasterAslan> I'm using 8.10 and its been pretty stable
[20:53] <psor> hi all
[20:53] <keyco> хи алл
[20:53] <keyco> hi all
[20:53] <psor> who know chat where
[20:53] <brian__> well for example, I'm talking to you from a fresh 8.10 install, and xchat crashed once, and locked the entire machine once, before I got in here to be able to talk to you guys.
[20:53] <Bruce_Wayne> hi is there a limewire for hardy ?
[20:53] <keyco> can anyone help me with my mic?
[20:53] <psor> young people tolk in english ?
[20:53] <Slart> dfgas: I'm pretty sure there are ways of limiting logins.. let me do a quick search..
[20:53] <greencookie> Slart: do I have to download that?
[20:54] <LjL> !offtopic | psor
[20:54] <Slart> !p2p | Bruce_Wayne
[20:54] <dfgas> Slart, cool
[20:54] <greencookie> I just want one for my wmii screen. I have xclock now I want to add something else to it. Slart .
[20:54] <Bruce_Wayne> !edonkey
[20:54] <keyco> can anyone help me with my mic?
[20:54] <guntbert> Grenyaris: you must create the homedir by addding ' --home <place of homedir>' to 'sudo adduser...'
[20:54] <Slart> keyco: don't repeat your question to often, once every 10 minutes is enough
[20:55] <keyco> CAN ANYONE HELP ME WITH MY MIC????????????
[20:55] <keyco> TY
[20:55] <Grenyaris> guntbert: so how do I fix it at this point? just add the directories manually?
[20:55] <Slart> keyco: wow.. you really didn't improve at all.. stop with the caps
[20:55] <golden-dragon> hello
[20:55] <Tanalark> 'lo. :)
[20:56] <greencookie> keyco: I can hear you all the way in Minnesota, I don't think you need a mic :)
[20:56] <Slart> dfgas: here's a thread about it from the forums.. apparently there are some ways.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=387670
[20:56] <golden-dragon> i am a newb
[20:56] <MasterAslan> http://www.91courtstreet.net/wordpress/2008/02/03/how-to-limit-daily-desktop-usage-in-ubuntu/
[20:56] <Guest28212> mstrobert can I send u a private message please?
[20:56] <MasterAslan> dfgas: ^^
[20:56] <mstrobert> Guest28212, yes
[20:56] <guntbert> Grenyaris: or you could delete the user and create her again, have a look at 'man adduser' or type at least 'adduser --help'
[20:57] <golden-dragon> wooow... 1418 users?
[20:57] <johnny87> ciao a tutti
[20:57] <golden-dragon> thats a lot
[20:58] <Slart> golden-dragon: there is an offtopic channel for discussing the awesomeness of #ubuntu.. we try to keep it support only in here
[20:58] <Grenyaris> and one last question, isn't "cd ~" the command to return to the /home/[current logged in user] directory?
[20:58] <Slart> golden-dragon: if you have a question you're more than welcome to ask it =)
[20:58] <paul68> BlueEagle: can  I ask you something in pvt
[20:59] <Slart> Grenyaris: yes
[20:59] <Slart> Grenyaris: or rather.. you return to the home folder of the currently logged in user.. it doesn't have to be in /home/username
[20:59] <guntbert> Grenyaris: yes, but 'cd' is sufficient as well, but it works only, when the homedir exists ;)
[20:59] <golden-dragon> can you DL music in here?
[20:59] <Slart> Grenyaris: but by default that's the place
[21:00] <Slart> golden-dragon: nope
[21:00] <golden-dragon> this is a chat room?
[21:00] <MasterAslan> anyone know how to enable channels 12 and 13 on wireless for broadcom cards?
[21:00] <keyco> I NEED SOME HELP WITH MY MIC PLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:00] <Tanalark> heh... sort of.  it's more for support.
[21:00] <Slart> golden-dragon: yes.. for supporting the ubuntu operating system
[21:00] <Slart> keyco: you'll get kicked if you keep this up..
[21:00] <golden-dragon> thats cool
[21:01] <keyco> hello?
[21:01] <keyco> CAN ANYONE HELP ME WITH MY MIC PLSSSSSSSSS
[21:01] <jlilly> +1 for kick
[21:01] <Tanalark> +2
[21:01] <Tanalark> (he can't spell please)
[21:01] <arrrghhh> can anyone help me install rtgui for rtorrent?  i can't seem to compile rtorrent with xml-rpc for some reason
[21:01] <Scunizi> keyco: if they could they would have answered.. try back later
[21:02] <keyco> oh ok
[21:02] <keyco> ty
[21:02] <keyco> i though noone read me
[21:02] <keyco> sry
[21:02] <luke> hi, i recently built a system. my MB is a ASUS M3A78 Pro and came with a realtek ALC1200 sound card. my sound is playing but skips every minute or so...
[21:02] <Grenyaris> When I do "cd ~" I get taken to ~, where only one directory exists "Maildir", but if I go to /home there is my "home directory" ...
[21:02] <luke> can anyone help?
[21:02] <Slart> keyco: yes we did.. we told you to stop screaming and repeating..
[21:02] <pronoy_> can anyone please tell me how to check the version of gimp installed ? Ubuntu
[21:02] <Slart> pronoy_: usually <programname> --version in a terminal
[21:02] <jlilly> Grenyaris: ~ is your home directory /home is a container for all home directories
[21:02] <keyco> well i didnt see that
[21:02] <keyco> sry again
[21:02] <arrrghhh> pronoy_, with synaptic
[21:03] <Tanalark> wouldn't it be on the "about" part of the help menu?
[21:03] <Slart> pronoy_: there's probably an About-dialog in gimp too
[21:03] <Hilikus> is there a way to send output to the console when the script is not running in that same console? the job is running in the background by a different user but i want to see the messages in MY stdout
[21:03] <Grenyaris> Oh, DUH, my bad...
[21:03] <jlilly> Grenyaris: np. :)
[21:04] <pronoy_> Slart: lol......and how do i download the latest version....its saying its already downloaded the latest version...when there's a newer version available !?
[21:04] <Slart> pronoy_: there might be a newer version available from the gime people.. but it has to be packaged, tested and so on before it's available from the repos..
[21:04] <babo> how do i find out how large a folder and it's children is ?
[21:04] <erUSUL> babo: du -hs folder/
[21:05] <pronoy_> Slart: available at getdeb
[21:05] <paul68> goodevening how van I acces my trash through the terminal?
[21:05] <pronoy_> Slart: so i guess its stable
[21:05] <babo> thanks
[21:05] <Slart> pronoy_: so you might not get the absolutely latest version when you install it in ubuntu.. but it will be a version that works
[21:05] <guntbert> congratulations for that effective 'cooling down', thank you > Scunizi
[21:05] <Tanalark> ditot
[21:05] <Slart> pronoy_: if you trust the getdeb people to make that judgement for you, go ahead
[21:05] <Tanalark> ditto, even
[21:06] <justin__> hey, is there anyone that can help me, i am new to ubuntu, and i deleted something i shouldnt have
[21:06] <pronoy_> Slart: i think i do......thanks...just found out how to....thanks for helping
[21:06] <Guest28212> Can anyone please guide me how to enter a new user please
[21:06] <Slart> pronoy_: you're welcome
[21:06] <jlilly> paul68: it may be a hidden file in either your home folder or desktop folder
[21:06] <Slart> justin__: deleted it using the file manager? or the command line?
[21:06] <guntbert> !trash | paul68
[21:06] <Scunizi> guntbert: I believe in the KISS principle first.. "Keep it simple stu...."  :) thanks.
[21:06] <jlilly> Guest28212: I believe you can do that via the administration panel
[21:06] <jamiejackson> sudo adduser, Guest28212
[21:07] <MasterAslan> anyone know how to enable channels 12 and 13 on wireless.  I'm searching the internet but not finding anything.  got broadcom card
[21:07] <paul68> thanks Ubottu and guntbert
[21:07] <genii> !info ttysnoop | Hilikus
[21:07] <erUSUL> Guest28212: System>Admin>Users and groups
[21:07] <Guest28212> jlilly   jamiejackson   I tried using add user but got a warning I couldnt open display
[21:07] <justin__> well i dont know what i did, its where the aps like firfox and stuff doc when they are minimized, i had gtk i think(looks like mac) so i deleted the one that was on ubuntu with the fresh install, and not gtk is gone
[21:07] <Guest28212> shall I try sudo adduser?
[21:07] <jlilly> sure.
[21:08] <Guest28212> thks fingers crossed then!
[21:08] <jlilly> you need sudo power to make users anyway
[21:08] <okinoki> Hi. Noob question here: in ifconfig, how do i tell which interface is my wireless card? Both of them say "Link encap: Ethernet"
[21:08] <justin__> the gtk and the other one are gone now
[21:08] <jlilly> okinoki: look at the letters. eth0 is likely hardwired
[21:08] <Slart> justin__: ah.. the gnome-panel..
[21:08] <techsupport> I mapped a network drive in windows server 2003, but i'm getting access denied error when trying to create or browse files, is there anything i could do  ?
[21:08] <erUSUL> okinoki: run "iwconfig" instead
[21:08] <guntbert> Guest28212: have a look at 'adduser --help' first
[21:08] <dZen|n|> hello
[21:08] <okinoki> awesome, thanks erUSUL
[21:09] <MasterAslan> okinoki: normally if you go iwconfig it will list your wireless
[21:09] <greencookie> where can I get help for wmii?
[21:09] <dZen|n|> Can I get help about drupal installation in here ?
[21:09] <Slart> justin__: do you still have the panel in the top part of the desktop?
[21:09] <Guest28212> jlilly   jamiejackson   I tried that and told command not found
[21:09] <okinoki> got it, thanks jlilly MasterAslan
[21:09] <justin__> slart_ yeah the gnome panel, i had no idea what it was called, i have only messed with linux for about a day now, so i am very new to it
[21:09] <justin__> yeah its in the top part
[21:09] <Slart> justin__: right click on the top panel, select "Add panel"
[21:09] <Slart> justin__: sorry.. "New panel"
[21:09] <Tanalark> so here's another question... anyone know how to get more mouse customization options in Hardy?
[21:09] <justin__> ok
[21:10] <guntbert> Guest28212: did you have a look at 'adduser --help' ?
[21:10] <Tanalark> it's pretty frustrating not to even be able to set the scrolling speed or make the "back" button work on this mouse
[21:10] <Guest28212> guntbert yep tried everything to no avail and Im getting desperate
[21:10] <Slart> justin__: did you get a new empty panel now?
[21:10] <justin__> yeah i did
[21:10] <justin__> whats next?
[21:10] <methods> how do i know if i need a software sound mixer like artsd ?
[21:10] <Slart> justin__: right click on that new panel.. select "Add to panel"
[21:10] <guntbert> Guest28212: no reason to be desperate, lets take step after step - ok?
[21:11] <arrrghhh> does anyone use rtorrent with a web frontend?
[21:11] <justin__> ok i see
[21:11] <Slart> justin__: you'll get a new window with a lot of stuff you can add to the panel.. select Window List.. it's at the bottom of the list
[21:11] <dZen|n|> Can I get help about drupal installation in here ?
[21:12] <m3gab0y> Hey all! I have FEDORA installed now, I want to install UBUNTU (KUBUNTU) without touching FEDORA and without making FEDORA unbootable. Is there any way to achieve this?
[21:12] <justin__> AWESOME thanks a bunch Slart, your a life saver lol, i am so new to ubuntu i feel dumb lol
[21:12] <Slart> justin__: no worries, you're welcome
[21:12] <jamiejackson> Guest28212
[21:12] <jamiejackson> what's the user name
[21:14] <guntbert> Guest5222: hello?
[21:14] <erUSUL> m3gab0y: choose not to install the ubuntu grub boot loader during install (you may have to choose advanced options somewhere)
[21:15] <cwill747> things such as google earth and games online make the screen flash, any help? I'm using an ATI card with the accelerated graphics driver
[21:15] <ward_> someone in linux advised me to use the udev of my wifiNIC because the name keeps changing after every reboot, what is udev and/or are there other ways to solve this extremely ennoying issue?
[21:16] <bingungbangett> how can i sarch driver for my notebook webcam ? i've been googling about the manufacture, but can't get any information, anyone help me please, i'd install "camorama webcam viewer", but it won't work and stated "error, could not connect to video device (/dev/video0), please check connection"
[21:16] <cwill747> !info udev | ward_
[21:16] <Guest65941> Can someone please confirm the correct terminology for me for the menu bars/ tool bars?? at the top and bottom of the screen?
[21:17] <m3gab0y> erUSUL this ok but how can i boot ubuntu later?
[21:17] <sevenseeke1> ummm, innocent question, no flames please: I know what Debian thinks, but not Ubuntu... What are your guys thoughts about Python eggs and deb packaging?
[21:17] <ward_> cwill747, are there other ways to solve it aswel?
[21:17] <cwill747> ward_: no idea, i can't solve your problem, that's just what udev is haha
[21:17] <erUSUL> m3gab0y: you will have to configure fedoras grub to boot it
[21:17] <ward_> cwill747, lol ok no problem thanx :)
[21:18] <erUSUL> m3gab0y: sorry but i'm away as of now. good luck
[21:18] <m3gab0y> i don't know exactly what to add to the config such as kernel path and so on
[21:18] <spsneo> how to use bzr behind proxy server?
[21:19] <Chaotic_Descent> how do I hide hidden file folders in the window that FireFox uses to upload and save files?
[21:19] <emorris> hi, my webcam on /dev/video0 has been working fine up until now, but recently is has just stopped working, and I get errors like mplayer: could not connect to socket, mplayer: No such file or directory. Are there any troubleshooting steps I could look at, or does this sound like a hardware problem?
[21:20] <spsneo> how to use bzr behind proxy server?
[21:20] <guntbert> sevenseeke1: I'm sure you will find partners for such a discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[21:20] <sevenseeke1> guntbert: thank  you, I appreciate any input as I am now getting back into packaging
[21:21] <Chaotic_Descent> It's not just FireFox. all my applications seem to have hidden files set to display. but not the regular file browser. (uh... what's it called? Nautilus?)
[21:21] <Chaotic_Descent> but I can't find a setting to turn it off.
[21:21] <moo_cow> is there any reason i should not use oss4?
[21:22] <moo_cow> could someone tell me the difference between oss4 and alsa. i may have to use oss4 to have sound :\
[21:22] <Slart> moo_cow: creative x-fi user?
[21:22] <moo_cow> Slart: yes :\
[21:23] <bingungbangett> how can i sarch driver for my notebook webcam ? i've been googling about the manufacture, but can't get any information, anyone help me please, i'd install "camorama webcam viewer", but it won't work and stated "error, could not connect to video device (/dev/video0), please check connection"
[21:23] <Slart> moo_cow: I think oss is an older sound system... there might be problems with more than one process using the soundcard and such
[21:23] <Chaotic_Descent> what is the file browser used for uploading/downloading/saving/loading called that's not Nautilus?
[21:23] <moo_cow> Slart: it appears that the xfi beta driver doesnt work with all xfi cards. it looks like all xfi cards are listed except the one i have, the titanium.
[21:23] <Slart> moo_cow: alsa and especially alsa with pulseaudio handles that much better.. there might be other advantages for alsa over oss too
[21:24] <moo_cow> Slart: is there no way to have eax 5 for gaming and having working alsa sound in linux on a dual boot system?
[21:24] <zebralinux> My Desktop icon got accendtily renamed, when i renamed i back it wont have the same function, any help !!
[21:24] <techsupport> can anyone help me with samba ?
[21:24] <Slart> moo_cow: I wouldn't know.. I just know that creative are some very nasty people.. (and should be the first against the wall when the revolution comes) =).. I still have a creative card myself but it's an audigy
[21:25] <guntbert> Chaotic_Descent: many programs have their file-dialogues built in, I don't think, there will be options to configure
[21:25] <moo_cow> Slart: there tech support is really nasty to talk to also
[21:25] <moo_cow> s/there/their
[21:25] <agyament> hi
[21:25] <chino> you guys aren'te running firefox through aoss and then flash blocks sound
[21:26] <Slart> moo_cow: well.. since creative doesn't release any info about their cards it might be hard
[21:26] <agyament> does anyone know here, that how can I download the internet ?
[21:26] <Chaotic_Descent> guntbert: there is, because it wasn't always like this, and many applications seem to use the same application to upload/download/save/load files.
[21:26] <Slart> !hu | agyament
[21:26] <moo_cow> Slart: are other sound card companies releasing info on their cards?
[21:26] <zebralinux> anyone know how to get Desktop icon back ???????????????
[21:26] <Slart> moo_cow: I don't know.. but they seem to be better supported in linux at least
[21:26] <guntbert> Chaotic_Descent: maybe, but I'm not aware of it, sorry
[21:27] <moo_cow> Slart: not sure why oss4 can work with xfi but alsa cant come up with an implementation for them
[21:27] <greencookie> agyament: you want to download the internet? hmmm :)
[21:27] <Slart> moo_cow: but it's really just the x-fi series that doesn't work, afaik
[21:27] <tyoc> SOme of you know which is the name for the nvidia drivers in 8.10?
[21:27] <Chaotic_Descent> It's just really hard to go into "my documents" when it's 6 pages down past all these hidden folders, but it's 3 pages up from the bottom. UHG!
[21:27] <emorris> !ask | techsupport
[21:27] <bingungbangett> anyone can help me out with the webcam  pls
[21:27] <crimsun> Slart: / moo_cow: careful.  Certain X-Fi models /do/ work, because they're just rebranded Audigy LSes using ca0106.
[21:27] <moo_cow> Slart: do you think that will change in the future?
[21:27] <Chaotic_Descent> This is very inconvenient not to be able to turn off hidden files. :P
[21:27] <jamieyg3> hey im a new linux user and i installed ubuntu.. how come the fonts, like while browsing the web, look like shit compared to windows?
[21:27] <agyament> greencookie: yes all of it
[21:28] <techsupport> emorris, thanx, i have been asking the question for the past 2 days and no one is replying , perhaps you could help ?
[21:28] <zebralinux> bingungbangett, yes, use amsn, it has support for webcams
[21:28] <Slart> moo_cow: I sure hope so.. or someone else will step in a start selling a good sound card with linux drivers
[21:28] <guntbert> !language | jamieyg3
[21:28] <Tanalark> kind of in the same boat with you, Jamieyg3.
[21:28] <Slart> moo_cow: but for the x-fi cards... I don't know.. I think they reverseengineered the audigy cards so it might be possible
[21:28] <emorris> techsupport: probably not, but just ask the question
[21:28] <bingungbangett> zebralinux : no i meant i can't use my webcam from my notebook in ubuntu, maybe the driver, but i can't find out what kind of webcam i have here
[21:28] <jaksa> how can i download computer?
[21:29] <Tanalark> anyway... i'm off for now.. thanks for the help
[21:29] <BlueEagle> bingungbangett: lsusb
[21:29] <emorris> techsupport: as you can see, it is very busy in here, so answers are variable
[21:29] <Slart> jamieyg3: tried installing the microsoft fonts?
[21:29]  * moo_cow wants to slap creative 3 billion times
[21:29] <agyament> jaksa, im interested in that too
[21:29] <zebralinux> bingungbangett, you have a 9 inch eee notbook ?
[21:29] <jaksa> :D
[21:29] <bingungbangett> blueagle : what's the exact command in terminal for lsusb
[21:29] <BlueEagle> moo_cow: Good.
[21:29] <techsupport> emorris, ok, i mapped a network drive in windows, the path to the drive is /media/500gbBackup on my ubuntu server,
[21:29] <BlueEagle> bingungbangett: that would be: lsusb
[21:29] <bingungbangett> zebralinux : benq s41-455
[21:29] <jamieyg3> slart no i would have no idea how to do that haha
[21:29] <BlueEagle> bingungbangett: You might need to have root privileges.
[21:29] <jaksa> it's 8.9inch not 9
[21:29] <jaksa> :D
[21:30] <Slart> !info msttcorefonts | jamieyg3
[21:30] <techsupport> emorris, when trying to browse or crate folders, i get error access denied, so i'm guessing it has to do with permissions, but not sure how to set that
[21:30] <emorris> techsupport: all on one line
[21:30] <jamieyg3> thanks slart
[21:30] <smoovep> php mail() .. where is it .. is it in php.ini ??
[21:30] <Slart> jamieyg3: "sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts" in a terminal
[21:30] <xbxb> Is it a general policy for freshly installed linux applications to look into the user's home directory and check if the app's corresponding folder already exist and if so, use it? So that they'll take over the settings & logs of the last installation?
[21:30] <emorris> techsupport: are your permissions in /etc/fstab ok?
[21:30] <zebralinux> anyone know how to get Desktop directory back ????????
[21:30] <Slart> jamieyg3: it might not be enough.. some website creators do weird things with browser detecting. but it might make it a little better
[21:31] <jamieyg3> ok thanks
[21:31] <smoovep> program is calling @mail .. its php .. but where do i define smtp.. is it php.ini?
[21:31] <jamieyg3> it seems to be installing in my terminal window now
[21:31] <bingungbangett> blueeagle : just some info about BUS, broadcom corp., and suyin corp. -- what's that mean ?
[21:31] <BlueEagle> bingungbangett: Those are all the devices connected to your usb ports. Most likely one of them identify your webcam
[21:32] <BlueEagle> bingungbangett: And from that we can determine which driver you need.
[21:32] <techsupport> emorris, i didnt even know about that ... going to look now
[21:32] <techsupport> emorris, any hints on what i should set there ?
[21:32] <BlueEagle> !paste > bingungbangett
[21:32] <guntbert> bingungbangett: pastebin the output of lsusb, and tell us the url
[21:32] <guntbert> BlueEagle: :)
[21:33] <patapuma> how do i search the forums for a thread that must exist about a biege screen hang problem after login?
[21:33] <patapuma> every time i search i get different threads because they move so fast
[21:33] <smoovep> found it.. but can i have php.ini send email to/from another mailserver?
[21:33] <dmsuperman> I'm having a problem connecting to a database
[21:33] <Slart> patapuma: well.. the word beige might be good enough.. don't think you'll get many hits on that
[21:33] <bingungbangett> ok ubottu
[21:33] <dmsuperman> This is basically my exact problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=300730
[21:33] <patapuma> or biege....
[21:33] <zebralinux> how can i get my Desktop directory back ????? anyone...
[21:33] <bingungbangett> guntbert : wait a sec
[21:34] <dmsuperman> It takes about 5 seconds to connect, but once connected it runs fine
[21:34] <jamieyg3> what is a good irc client for ubuntu
[21:34] <dmsuperman> All machines are on the exact same subnet
[21:34] <emorris> techsupport: I thought there would have been a man page, but there doesn't seem to be one.
[21:34] <BlueEagle> jamieyg3: I prefer irssi.
[21:34] <dmsuperman> Behind the same physical router, even
[21:34] <zebralinux> jamieyg3, xchat is awesome
[21:34] <Slart> patapuma: google thinks beige is more common.. might be a language thing though
[21:35] <dmsuperman> zebralinux: mkdir ~/Desktop
[21:35] <Slart> jamieyg3: xchat is popular.. irssi is command line but also popular
[21:35] <bingungbangett> guntbert / blueeagle : http://paste.ubuntu.com/55403/
[21:35] <jamieyg3> ok thanks
[21:35] <souldier> hello
[21:35] <wallrus> i'm using ubuntu 8.04 and firefox 3.0.3, and when i mute the sound here it doesn't seem to mute flash on websites like youtube etc. is there a way to change that? or is it a firefox thing?
[21:35] <souldier> im having trouble with a second hdd on my pc
[21:35] <zebralinux> dmsuperman,  is that that different from: cd /home/my_username ; mkdir Desktop ??
[21:36] <jamieyg3> when i downloaded xchat it says the file type is not supported or somthing
[21:36] <emorris> techsupport: can you pastebin it?
[21:36] <techsupport> emorris, are you familiar with samba as a domain member ?
[21:36] <BlueEagle> bingungbangett: Which other usb device have you got attatched along with your webcam?
[21:36] <zebralinux> dmsuperman,  now all shortcuts will end up in home directory
[21:36] <jamieyg3> archive type not supported actually
[21:36] <dmsuperman> I'm having issues connecting from an ubuntu machine to a windows machine over mysql. This basically sums it up pretty well: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=300730 It takes about 5 seconds just to connect to the server, in linux only, no matter what tool I use (mysql cli, php, sqlyog, etc.). Once connected, it's fast. All machines are behind the same physical router
[21:36] <souldier> i have two hard drives, one had windows and the other didnt, installed ubuntu on the one that didnt have ubuntu, i used gparted on ubuntu to format NTFS the other hard drive, but i cant mount it!!! please help me!
[21:36] <bingungbangett> blueeagle : sorry to tell u i don't know, it's attached in my notebook
[21:36] <Slart> jamieyg3: downloaded? just run "sudo apt-get install xchat"
[21:36] <jamieyg3> i downloaded the xchat that says it's for fedora 9 or somthing, will that work with ubuntu
[21:36] <dmsuperman> zebralinux: Yes, it's the same as cd ~; mkdir Desktop
[21:36] <Guest65941> My gnome desktop is missing the menu bars at the top and bottom when I started my computer today. Last night I deleted quite a lot from the computer so I deleted something I shouldn't. Is there an easy way to reinstate??
[21:37] <dmsuperman> zebralinux: (~ is the same as /home/current_user)
[21:37] <emorris> techsupport: a bit
[21:37] <jamieyg3> slart, oh ok thanks, i just googled xchat and there was a download button
[21:37] <Slart> jamieyg3: or search in synaptic for xchat
[21:37] <souldier> im getting the cannot mount volume. security policy... etc.
[21:37] <BlueEagle> bingungbangett: Well, could you try detatching your webcam and do lsusb again?
[21:37] <souldier> please help me!
[21:37] <zebralinux> dmsuperman,  can u try to delete your Desktop icon
[21:37] <johnny87> hi
[21:37] <BlueEagle> bingungbangett: or is this a buldt-in kind of cam?
[21:37] <zebralinux> dmsuperman,  and then recreate it
[21:37] <dmsuperman> zebralinux: icon?
[21:37] <dmsuperman> zebralinux: What icon?
[21:37] <zebralinux> dmsuperman,  directory i mean
[21:37] <techsupport> emorris, here are instructions, i seem to follow and instead get worse results than what i already have http://pastebin.com/m60062c10
[21:37] <dmsuperman> zebralinux: I just told you mkdir ~/Desktop recreates it
[21:37] <Slart> jamieyg3: most linux distros has some kind of system for downloading/installing software.. debian and ubuntu uses apt.. it insures that software works together and is at least a little tested
[21:38] <bingungbangett> blueeagle : it's impossible to detached, it attached permantely on my notebook screen
[21:38] <Gin> I am copying files form one drive to another and I am only getting 4.2 MB/s they are both sata drives. any one knows why it is so slow?
[21:38] <emorris> techsupport: i thought you were going to paste your fstab
[21:38] <zebralinux> dmsuperman,  why dont shortcuts created on to desktop end up in Desktop ??
[21:38] <BlueEagle> bingungbangett: Ahh.. buildt in. Which make and model notebook do you have then?
[21:38] <jamieyg3> slart, ah ok thanks, i had no idea haha
[21:38] <dmsuperman> zebralinux: I don't know what you mean...desktop icons end up on desktop, yeah
[21:38] <Guest65941> Is there any way I can divide my computer to keep all files etc., separate from programs?
[21:39] <dmsuperman> Guest65941: They're called folders
[21:39] <albuntu> Gin : is the sata support in bios active ?
[21:39] <bingungbangett> blueeagle : benq s41-455 --- tried to find the information by googling, can't get any of them, just 1.3mpx webcam
[21:39] <Slart> Gin: both internal drives?
[21:39] <zebralinux> dmsuperman,  ok but can u try this:  mv Desktop desktop
[21:39] <Guest65941> dmsuperman thks.
[21:39] <guntbert> BlueEagle: bingungbangett webcam is probably from suyin, as I have the same broadcom device and no webcam
[21:39] <dmsuperman> zebralinux: ...why
[21:39] <Slart> Guest65941: install your home folder on a separate partition
[21:39] <Gin> Slart, yes, they are both internal drives
[21:39] <zebralinux> dmsuperman,  rename your Desktop directory
[21:39] <jamieyg3_> hey i made it in xchat
[21:39] <zebralinux> see what happends
[21:39] <Gin> albuntu, ut should be active. it is a new mobo
[21:39] <dmsuperman> zebralinux: No
[21:39] <BlueEagle> guntbert bingungbangett: That would probably make the broadcom some bluetooth thingy then?
[21:39] <ward_> there is some little tool tool to graphically view your connections, does anyone know the name? i forgot it and i need it
[21:39] <zebralinux> lol
[21:39] <Guest65941> Slart does this mean I have to reinstall the programs to do that
[21:39] <Slart> Gin: well.. it sounds awfully slow.. I get about 10x that speed.
[21:39] <ward_> its apt-getable
[21:39] <Tundrayeti311> Guest65941: You could use a partition
[21:40] <thalin> anybody know if the intrepid-server daily build is supposed to have e1000 reenabled?
[21:40] <guntbert> BlueEagle: could well be
[21:40] <dmsuperman> I'm having issues connecting from an ubuntu machine to a windows machine over mysql. This basically sums it up pretty well: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=300730 It takes about 5 seconds just to connect to the server, in linux only, no matter what tool I use (mysql cli, php, sqlyog, etc.). Once connected, it's fast. All machines are behind the same physical router. Any ideas?
[21:40] <Slart> Guest65941: nope.. you can move it without reinstalling.. but it takes a little work and some planning
[21:40] <wallrus> ﻿i'm using ubuntu 8.04 and firefox 3.0.3, and when i mute the sound here it doesn't seem to mute flash on websites like youtube etc. is there a way to change that? or is it a firefox thing?
[21:40] <yash> hello got a problem with installation of ubuntu. can someone help me on this?
[21:40] <bingungbangett> guntbert : maybe, and i has bluetooth built in too, but no issue for bluetooth
[21:40] <Tundrayeti311> !gparted | Guest65941
[21:40] <wallrus> ward_ system > administration > network tools
[21:40] <Slart> thalin: intrepid stuff in #ubuntu+1
[21:40] <dmsuperman> zebralinux: You're asking me to do something, for no reason, which serves no purpose, without giving me a reason
[21:40] <Guest65941> Tundrayeti311 thks
[21:40] <dmsuperman> zebralinux: No, thanks
[21:40] <thalin> Slart: thanks, will check there
[21:40] <dmsuperman> zebralinux: I've told you if you deleted your desktop, then mkdir ~/Desktop to get it back
[21:40] <emorris> techsupport: where is this valid_users thing you posted from?
[21:40] <ward_> wallrus, no its some other tool, its apt-getable
[21:40] <ward_> wallrus, its not installed by default
[21:41] <Slart> ward_: etherman?
[21:41] <albuntu> Gin : check this
[21:41] <luite_> does anyone here have xen with libc6-xen working on hardy, 32 bit without hvm? or know how to make it work? :)
[21:41] <ward_> Slart, let me check im not sure
[21:41] <albuntu> Gin : check this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=826647
[21:41] <Slart> !info etherman
[21:41] <Guest65941> Slart I think I need to reinstall the Ubuntu CD again to reprogram as I am having problem with gnome. How would I start separating beforehand so I dont lose the folders
[21:41] <ward_> Slart, yes :D thanx
[21:41] <Aleksandros> âñåì ïðèâåò
[21:41] <yash> someone could help me with the installation of ubuntu?
[21:41] <ward_> Slart, i promise i will never forget it again :p
[21:41] <guntbert> bingungbangett: so your webcam seems to be manufactured by Suyin Corp., search for that for a start
[21:42] <Slart> Guest65941: just create a partition and copy your home folder to it
[21:42] <BlueEagle> b4d_ace: try installing luvcview
[21:42] <techsupport> emorris, from samba manual
[21:42] <bingungbangett> blueeagle / gubert : so how can i find the suyin driver and install in my ubuntu ?
[21:42] <Slart> Guest65941: nb!, copy!.. not move
[21:42] <hadronzoo> I'm having a problem getting multiple monitors working in Hardy.  Both monitors are recognized perfectly and cloning works, but it is impossible to make one screen to the right or left of the primary screen.  They always overlap.
[21:42] <BlueEagle> b4d_ace: mis-nicked.
[21:42] <BlueEagle> bingungbangett: try installing luvcview
[21:42] <Slart> ward_: hehe..
[21:42] <quickes> ïðèâåò
[21:42] <Guest65941> Slart you make it sound so easy. How do I start partitioning?
[21:42] <georgeaf> anyone interested in helping me in a HUGE pppd prob ?
[21:42] <bingungbangett> blueeagle : ok
[21:42] <albuntu> Gin : from what i read there you have to check your HD jumpers
[21:42] <ward_> Slart, huh its not in the repo :s
[21:43] <ward_> Slart, aaaah it was etherape
[21:43] <Slart> Guest65941: partitioning is done using gparted.. or system, administration, partition editor
[21:43] <emorris> techsupport: not sure to be honest, you may/probably will get better answers in #samba, or if not, #linux
[21:43] <zebralinux> dmsuperman,  ok but that will recreate the directory but not its functionallity
[21:43] <ward_> Slart, thats allmost a clone of etherman
[21:43] <Slart> ward_: ah.. they might have changed the name.. or something
[21:43] <bingungbangett> blueeagle : luvcview -- can't find any from my add/remove application
[21:43] <zebralinux> dmsuperman,  If you look att the directory in nautilus u see it has a special emblem on it
[21:44] <georgeaf> anybody good in pppd enough to solve my prob ?
[21:44] <Guest65941> Slart so if I go to terminal (which I can still do without my menu bars) what do I type in?
[21:44] <zebralinux> dmsuperman, how to get that ??
[21:44] <albuntu> !ask | georgeaf
[21:44] <hadronzoo> I know I probably need to setup a virtual screen in xorg.conf, but I was hoping Hardy would do it for me
[21:44] <Slart> Guest65941: you need to create a partition that's big enough for your files.. copy everything to it.. I'm not really sure how to keep the installer from killing it but there ought to be a way.. please do a backup first though
[21:44] <Guest65941> Slart I cant get into sysem, administration etc., as I have no menu bars
[21:44] <sevenseeke1> packaging question: if packaging a module for an existing package... that module does not use versions except for the parent application's version, then do I use that version for the module or a date and svn repos revision?
[21:44] <BlueEagle> bingungbangett: sudo apt-get install luvcview
[21:44] <zebralinux> anyone knows how to recreate Desktop directory and its functionallity ???????+
[21:44] <georgeaf> lol ok
[21:44] <Slart> Guest65941: to start the partition editor? gksudo gparted
[21:44] <smoovep> how to configure php to use a different smtp server ?
[21:45] <georgeaf> but it's somehow big
[21:45] <jamieyg3_> made it here with irssi
[21:45] <Slart> Guest65941: if that doesn't work you have to install it first.. sudo apt-get install gparted
[21:45] <Guest65941> Slart could I just try terminal and type in gksudo gparted
[21:45] <Slart> jamieyg3_: congrats.. like it?
[21:45] <Slart> Guest65941: sure.
[21:45] <xomp> !ru
[21:45] <Guest65941> Slart will it then show me thru what to do
[21:45] <jamieyg3_> ya i guess so, i like how it was easy to install haha
[21:45] <Slart> Guest65941: not really.. but you'll have to use it to create a new partition
[21:46] <freaky[t]> how do i remove a user from a group (commandline)?
[21:46] <Guest65941> Slart once I have created a new partition what do I do
[21:46] <tcameron> freaky[t] - usermod comes to mind
[21:46] <georgeaf> pppd gives me a wierd authentication prompt. I knew it was authentication my monitoring the modem port on windows and then discovered that windows sends some garbage containing my username and password in between. Why doesn't pppd do that and how can i know what type of authentication it is ? The log is here http://www.pastebin.ca/1222972
[21:46] <jarco> hello, What is the best software on linux/ubuntu to create music? it of course needs to be free :)
[21:46] <Slart> Guest65941: you create a partition, format it (use ext3), then copy the files from your home to that new partition
[21:46] <guntbert> Guest65941: you should get your menu with <CTRL> F1
[21:46] <Slart> !best | jarco
[21:47] <tcameron> freaky[t] - usermod -G prolly
[21:47] <Guest65941> Slart can I send you a private message plse?
[21:47] <Slart> Guest65941: sure
[21:47] <Guest65941> thks
[21:47] <Skky> anyone have any experience with iTunes through Wine?
[21:47] <jarco> hello, What is the good and well known software on linux/ubuntu to create music? it of course needs to be free :)
[21:47] <jarco> better??
[21:47] <freaky[t]> with usermod -G i can set groups the user is also in. what do i do if the user is in 2 groups and i want to remove one group? how do i get all groups a user is in?
[21:47] <Slart> Skky: check the applicatin database.. appdb.winehq.org
[21:47] <Slart> jarco: much better =)
[21:47] <tcoupload> hi
[21:47] <joshuablount> Any ideas or links for setting up a ad-hoc network inside of Intrepid ?
[21:47] <georgeaf> pppd gives me a wierd authentication prompt. I knew it was authentication my monitoring the modem port on windows and then discovered that windows sends some garbage containing my username and password in between. Why doesn't pppd do that and how can i know what type of authentication it is ? The log is here http://www.pastebin.ca/1222972
[21:47] <Tundrayeti311> jarco: Ardour, Hydrogen with Jack is what i have used
[21:48] <jarco> Tundrayeti311: is there a package for it?
[21:48] <bingungbangett> blueeagle : done, using ctrl f2, luvcview, nothing happen
[21:49] <pal> how to update envy to install new 177.80 nvidia drivers? it shows only 173 the last?
[21:49] <Tundrayeti311> jarco: yeah !ubuntustudio > jarco
[21:49] <zebralinux> anyone good with nautilus ??????????+
[21:49] <albuntu> pal : why dont you use the restricted drivers ?
[21:49] <Tundrayeti311> !ubuntustudio > jarco
[21:49] <Mr> hi
[21:49] <pal> u mean instal from pkg2.run?
[21:49] <albuntu> pal : go to system - administration - hardware drivers and enable them
[21:49] <jarco> doestn that change my complete ubuntu layout etc Tundrayeti311?
[21:50] <hadronzoo> is it possible output Ubuntu's current configuration to an xorg.conf file?  I'm looking at the file that came with the installation and it's impossibly generic.  Is the configuration performed at startup?
[21:50] <georgeaf> pppd gives me a wierd authentication prompt. I knew it was authentication my monitoring the modem port on windows and then discovered that windows sends some garbage containing my username and password in between. Why doesn't pppd do that and how can i know what type of authentication it is ? The log is here http://www.pastebin.ca/1222972
[21:50] <bingungbangett> blueeagle : sorry alt f2 luvcview -- nothing happen
[21:50] <pal> if i enable nvidia drivers it will install 173 ver
[21:50] <Tundrayeti311> jarco: it adds packages and modules... changes your wallpaper etc... nothing that you couldn't undo imo... you could of course hand pick the packages etc
[21:51] <albuntu> pal : first uninstall what you installed from envy and after that enable them
[21:51] <pal> alrady uninstalled 173
[21:51] <jarco> mm Tundrayeti311 i will try the package with the name u mentioned before if that doesnt work out i ll try studio.
[21:51] <dmsuperman> I'm having issues connecting from an ubuntu machine to a windows machine over mysql. This basically sums it up pretty well: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=300730 It takes about 5 seconds just to connect to the server, in linux only, no matter what tool I use (mysql cli, php, sqlyog, etc.). Once connected, it's fast. All machines are behind the same physical router. Any ideas?
[21:52] <pronoy_> is there any pc suite by sony ericsson for ubuntu
[21:52] <pronoy_> ????
[21:52] <pronoy_> please help
[21:52] <bingungbangett> blueeagle : are u still there ?
[21:52] <xomp> gibt es eine Deutsch-Kanal?
[21:52] <Slart> pronoy_: probably not
[21:52] <Slart> !de | xomp
[21:52] <pal> when i started administration-hardware there no nvidia available
[21:52] <xomp> danke herr Slart :D
[21:53] <Slart> xomp: you're welcome =)
[21:53] <pronoy_> Slart:darn........and hey gimp 2.6 is better try it...if you use it
[21:53] <pal> If i don't Section "Module" in xorg is it normal?
[21:53] <albuntu> pronoy_ : i am with you. gimp is perfect
[21:54] <Slart> pronoy_: I'll wait until the next version of ubuntu
[21:54] <pronoy_> Slart: cheers :)
[21:54] <pronoy_> albuntu: cheers :)
[21:54] <smoovep> php to send email .. i have postfix install .. what else is needed?
[21:54] <georgeaf> pppd gives me a wierd authentication prompt. I knew it was authentication my monitoring the modem port on windows and then discovered that windows sends some garbage containing my username and password in between. Why doesn't pppd do that and how can i know what type of authentication it is ? The log is here http://www.pastebin.ca/1222972
[21:55] <pal> I want to install driver manualy, but wiki recomends to add Load "glx" in xorg, but i don't have module section
[21:55] <_snoopin_> question: is it okay if i use ubuntu desktop version to become my squid server?
[21:55] <Dr_willis_> pal you can add the section at the end.
[21:56] <pal> Load "glx" IS it important?
[21:56] <Dr_willis_> i forget what glx is for.. somthing to do wih 3d video I thought.
[21:56] <ompaul> pal, it is there by default these days you must be reading something from a long time ago
[21:57] <_snoopin_> somebody?
[21:57] <albuntu> Dr_willis_ : yes. it has to do with 3d video
[21:57] <danbh_intrepid> Dr_willis_: how about, graphic library extensions
[21:57] <Dr_willis_> pal its in my xorg.conf
[21:57] <pal> i don't understand how my driver works whithout this i mean 173
[21:57] <pal> where?
[21:57] <_snoopin_> question: is it okay if i use ubuntu desktop version to become my squid server? whats the drawback?
[21:57] <albuntu> danbh_intrepid : lol. thanks. i'll remember it next time
[21:58] <danbh_intrepid> albuntu: im just guessin :p
[21:58] <Dr_willis_> pal modules sectioni have is right below the serverlayout section. I proberly generated/tweaked this xorg.conf with the nvida-settings tool
[21:58] <_snoopin_> is it okay if i use ubuntu desktop version to become my squid server? whats the drawback?
[21:59] <danbh_intrepid> _snoopin_: resources? and security?
[21:59] <albuntu> danbh_intrepid : glx -> get live experience. lol
[21:59] <karlag> hi all!!
[21:59] <pal> see my xorg whith 173 driver installed http://pastebin.com/m1227ca4e
[21:59] <albuntu> karlag : hi
[22:00] <danbh_intrepid> pal: looks good
[22:00] <_snoopin_> i use p4 3.0ghz 2gb ram 80gb hdd. and its behind another router that doesn't have port forwarding
[22:00] <pal> there no Section "Module" and it is work
[22:00] <_snoopin_> any outside connection has been blocked
[22:00] <freaky[t]> can i add/remove a user from a group by editing /etc/group ?=
[22:00] <Dr_willis_> pal heres my xorg.conf - that i am using   http://pastebin.com/f192abfbc
[22:01] <Dr_willis_> freaky[t],  you can.. but you want to be carefull i belive.
[22:01] <freaky[t]> Dr_willis_: yea i have no idea how i can find out in what groups a user is and how to remove a group from that user
[22:01] <freaky[t]> without editing the file
[22:01] <pal> but u have section Module and load "glx"
[22:01] <Dr_willis_> freaky[t],  grep the file for the users name. :) for the first part...
[22:01] <albuntu> freaky[t] : you cant remove a group from the user but you can remove a user from a group
[22:02] <freaky[t]> albuntu: that's what i eman ;p
[22:02] <freaky[t]> mean
[22:02] <tcameron> freaky[t]: - use id from the command line
[22:02] <albuntu> freaky[t] : i am just kidding. i know what you meant ;)
[22:02] <tcameron> that will tell you the groups
[22:02] <_snoopin_> danbh_intrepid: what sort of resource are you refering to?
[22:02] <tcameron> then use usermod -G to edit the list of supplementarty groups
[22:02] <freaky[t]> tcameron: id?
[22:02] <tcameron> yeah
[22:03] <tcameron> type id and hit enter
[22:03] <freaky[t]> tcameron: oh ok
[22:03] <Polysics> hi all
[22:03] <freaky[t]> tcameron: but with usermod -G i can only submit a list of groups. is the user deleted from all other groups i dont submit there?
[22:03] <kansan> i cant get streaming mp3 to work with *any* music player on ubutn u hardy.  :(
[22:04] <Polysics> i'm a bit rusty... how od i get the version of a package that is not installed, but is in the repository, on the cli?
[22:04] <danbh_intrepid> freaky[t]: YES
[22:04] <freaky[t]> that sucks
[22:04] <danbh_intrepid> freaky[t]: BE CAREFUL!!!!
[22:04] <danbh_intrepid> freaky[t]: just use the -a argument
[22:04] <pan__> anyone know how to fan control the cpu?
[22:04] <kelder> kansan: i dont think i did anything special to stream mms radio channels in rhythmbox
[22:05] <freaky[t]> danbh_intrepid: yea but how do i remove the user from a group ;p
[22:05] <Hilikus> is there a way to send output to the console when the script is not running in that same console? the job is running in the background by a different user but i want to see the messages in MY stdout
[22:06] <freaky[t]> if i want to add a user to a group i can also do adduser <user> <group>
[22:06] <tcameron> freaky[t]: perl time
[22:07] <Ntemis> hello
[22:08] <Ntemis> is there a way to sync my htc diamond with ubuntu?
[22:08] <tcameron> freaky[t]: or something like id tcameron | awk '{ print $3 }'
[22:08] <Il_Folletto_di_U> .
[22:08] <tcameron> that will give you the groups
[22:08] <Dr_willis_> awk is a wonder tool. ;)
[22:08] <tcameron> id tcameron | awk '{ print $3 }' | awk -F = '{ print $2 }'
[22:09] <vwasthename> hey,, what is the best msn client
[22:09] <tcameron> 505(tcameron),8082(beatles)
[22:09] <danbh_intrepid> freaky[t]: gpasswd
[22:09] <Dr_willis_> !im | vwasthename
[22:09] <tcameron> danbh_intrepid - nice, didn't know that one
[22:09] <vwasthename> k thx
[22:09] <danbh_intrepid> tcameron: google'd it
[22:10] <Ntemis> anyone here to help me out sync contacts from htc diamond with ubuntu?
[22:10] <danbh_intrepid> freaky[t]: tcameron: to remove a user: gpasswd -d user group
[22:11] <freaky[t]> danbh_intrepid: thank you :D
[22:11] <smoovep> Question: php script is set to email php.ini is set for local 25 and postfix is install .. mail log shows www-data@hostname sent (delivered to mailbox) .. im not receiving the mail in my inbox.. any idea?
[22:13] <carthik> I have a weird problem on a Hardy machine. If I do Ctrl+alt+f1 to switch to the console, when I then do a Ctrl+alt+f7, I dont get the gdm login screen. Why is this?
[22:13] <carthik> I ave to restart gdm to get the login screen
[22:16] <Esquilo> I'm trying to help in Launchpad Answers, but I don't know how can I see the newest questions in my language. How can I do it?
[22:17] <Esquilo> If I go in "Most active projects" I can see it all plainly perfect, completely organized
[22:18] <IceGuest_75> so where can one find a REAL lost of good irc servers/channels?
[22:20] <keyco_> sry but where are stored ubuntu module options?
[22:21] <HtheB> hi all
[22:21] <Gusano> hi HtheB
[22:22] <albuntu> hi HtheB
[22:22] <HtheB> how are you all ^^
[22:22] <Gusano> on the phone :)
[22:22] <albuntu> sleepy
[22:22] <HtheB> I'm kinda new in this linux world...
[22:22] <HtheB> I tried to use some transformation pack for ubuntu :P
[22:22] <HtheB> (to give ubuntu a vista look)
[22:23] <HtheB> though, I couldn't manage to get it to work :(
[22:23] <albuntu> HtheB : gnome-look.org you have anything you want there
[22:23] <HtheB> yeah I did :(
[22:23] <HtheB> (remember, me == n00b
[22:23] <HtheB> )
[22:24] <BenB> hey.... I'm trying to move a mysql database from one machine to another. I shut down mysql, rsynced the DB files to new machine, adapted /etc/mysql.my.cnf on the new machine, and chowned and chmoded the files to be owned by "mysql", as said in my.cnf. yet, I get in syslog:
[22:24] <yash> hello all. im havning problems with installation of ubuntu
[22:24] <yash> could someone help me on this?
[22:24] <BenB> mysqld[4667]: 081008 23:19:33 [Warning] Can't create test file /foo/mysql/mythtv-core.lower-test mythtv-core kernel: [  190.645229] audit(1223500773.885:20): type=1503 operation="inode_permission" requested_mask="r::" denied_mask="r::" name="/foo/mysql/mysql/host.frm" pid=4666 profile="/usr/sbin/mysqld" namespace="default"
[22:24] <albuntu> !pastebin | BenB
[22:24] <xbxb> what happens when I do /etc/init.d/networking stop ... will this disable all networking, internet access, all network interfaces and TCP/IP connections?
[22:25] <HtheB> hi yash
[22:25] <HtheB> what is your prob. exactly?
[22:25] <yash> hello HtheB
[22:25] <Gin> hi, how can you force hd check on next reboot?
[22:25] <BenB> albuntu: I know pastebin, thanks. these were just 2 lines.
[22:25] <albuntu> BenB : isnt it more simple for you to dump the database to a file and import it at the new database ?
[22:25] <BenB> albuntu: no.
[22:25] <Gin> i want to fs check my /home and / partition
[22:26] <erUSUL> Gin: "sudo touch /forcefsck"
[22:26] <BenB> albuntu: but it's an alternative, if I can't get this solves.
[22:26] <albuntu> BenB : maybe #mysql can help you better with your problem
[22:26] <yash> HtheB ubuntu will not install. it displays the busybox dialog... then goes like status: {DRDY} [ XXX.XXXX] ata01.exception.....
[22:27] <Gin> erUSUL, how can you tell i de defragment the partitions?
[22:27] <yash> then goes on like this for long time until i reboot
[22:27] <erUSUL> Gin: no defragmenters in linux (except xfs afaik)
[22:27] <erUSUL> !defragment
[22:27] <erUSUL> !fragmentation
[22:27] <HtheB> do you have an original ubuntu CD?
[22:27] <HtheB> or did you burned it
[22:28] <yash> yes
[22:28] <erUSUL> !find fragmentation
[22:28] <HtheB> maybe you didnt burn it right?
[22:28] <yash> just shipped today
[22:28] <HtheB> hmm...
[22:28] <HtheB> did you tried to run the "live cd" ?
[22:28] <return13> lol
[22:28] <angel> Hi is it possible to install flash player in ubuntu? i cant view any video in youtube
[22:28] <yash> yes
[22:28] <BenB> albuntu: it should be a simple permission problem, but I just don't get it.
[22:28] <HtheB> angel,
[22:28] <HtheB> it is
[22:28] <yash> even to insall directly
[22:28] <yash> will not work even to test the cd
[22:29] <yash> will not work
[22:29] <HtheB> yash: hmm... I'm kinda new into this ubuntu things :(
[22:29] <angel> is it possible?how can i install flash player for my firefox?
[22:29] <paradoxxxaz> use wubi!
[22:29] <yash> okay.does not matter
[22:29] <HtheB> angel: just go to www.youtube.com
[22:29] <yash> thanks for the help
[22:29] <yash> ;)
[22:29] <HtheB> click on a movie
[22:29] <albuntu> BenB : have you checked your user permissions ? have you tried with root that operation ? from what i see you are right. it should be a permissions problem
[22:29] <HtheB> yash: I'm rly sry :(
[22:29] <return13> @angel firefox3 will ask you if it should look for it
[22:29] <MetalHeadDead> what is the best torrent client for ubuntu?
[22:30] <albuntu> BenB : look if your user is in the mysql group
[22:30] <erUSUL> !best | MetalHeadDead
[22:30] <erUSUL> !torrents | MetalHeadDead
[22:30] <angus> hi
[22:30] <erUSUL> !torrent | MetalHeadDead
[22:30] <MetalHeadDead> ok.... what is the preferred client
[22:30]  * erUSUL flooding the channel ...
[22:30] <MetalHeadDead> im using transmission and it's slow, what are the other options?
[22:30] <albuntu> MetalHeadDead : i use kde and for me ktorrent is perfect
[22:31] <erUSUL> MetalHeadDead: transmission is what is installed by default
[22:31] <MetalHeadDead> ok thanks, i'll check out ktorrent
[22:31] <erUSUL> MetalHeadDead: i use deluge-torrent
[22:31] <albuntu> MetalHeadDead : if its slow you have to check port forwarding
[22:31] <zen4u> can't mount usb mem stick fat 32, any ideas?
[22:31] <return13> MetalHeadDead, - i really like rtorrent
[22:32] <MetalHeadDead> albuntu: it's really slow 182 b/x
[22:32] <MetalHeadDead> b/s
[22:32] <vassler> does anyone know how to remove bass in a mp3, and/or increase volume?
[22:32] <HtheB> What is the best "windows vista" look a like "theme" for Ubuntu?
[22:32] <albuntu> MetalHeadDead : check portforwarding because maybe its not a client problem. its the router that is blocking the ports. you are behind a firewall maybe
[22:32] <MetalHeadDead> ahh, now i'ts going faster
[22:33] <HtheB> Tried many, but I cant find the "best" one
[22:33] <HtheB> does anyone has a suggestion? :)
[22:33] <return13> Mean-Machine: rtorrent is a console based client, written in c++ and very fast
[22:33] <dmsuperman> I'm having issues connecting from an ubuntu machine to a windows machine over mysql. This basically sums it up pretty well: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=300730 It takes about 5 seconds just to connect to the server, in linux only, no matter what tool I use (mysql cli, php, sqlyog, etc.). Once connected, it's fast. All machines are behind the same physical router. Any ideas?
[22:33] <MetalHeadDead> albuntu: it just started off slow im goin at 140 k/s now
[22:33] <vassler> does anyone know how to remove bass in a mp3, and/or increase volume in linux/ubuntu?? pls help me!?
[22:33] <linkmaster03> I need help getting the "Extract Here" option on right-click for .zip files. They open with file-roller but I don't have a right click option. I have the right click option on .tar.gz archives.
[22:34] <dmsuperman> vassler: audacity
[22:34] <return13> MetalHeadDead: rtorrent is a console based client, written in c++ and very fast - there are also nice guis for it
[22:34] <albuntu> MetalHeadDead : ok but anyways check portforwarding.com for your router and you will have full speed making the guides there
[22:34] <vassler> dmsuperman: yes, but how in audacity?
[22:34] <szal> !nvidia
[22:34] <MetalHeadDead> thanks all
[22:34] <dmsuperman> vassler: It has a multitude of ways, you're going to want to research that
[22:35] <dmsuperman> vassler: I know for the volume it has it right in the menus. Install it and play with it before asking to be spoon fed the answer
[22:35] <BenB> albuntu: yes, I have checked them several times: http://pastebin.ca/1223125
[22:35] <belkinhelp2> can someone help me troubleshoot my network?
[22:35] <lukasz_> siema
[22:36] <zen4u> Can't mount usb 2.0 mem stick any ideas?
[22:36] <belkinhelp2> i just added a laptop and POOF....no more PCs shown in network tab
[22:36] <Flare183> zen4u: I might be able to help
[22:36] <belkinhelp2> hardy heron
[22:36] <moo_cow> belkinhelp2: sounds like a network explosion
[22:36] <Flare183> lol
[22:36] <belkinhelp2> funny
[22:36] <Gusano> idd :)
[22:36] <zen4u> Thanks Flare183
[22:36] <belkinhelp2> adding a pc just made my day
[22:37] <belkinhelp2> turned if off to see what would happen
[22:37] <belkinhelp2> nada...still no other pcs to be found
[22:37] <Flare183> zen4u: ok, open a terminal and type in lsusb, does anything come up? If so pastebin it and give me link for it
[22:37] <vassler> dmsuperman: well thanks for being an ass, and btw, i have install the software months ago and still cant figure it out, and b4 you tell to anything else, know what the heck your doing youself.
[22:37] <belkinhelp2> remote desktop still finds them though...odd huh?
[22:37] <vassler> does anyone know how to remove bass in a mp3, and/or increase volume in linux/ubuntu?? pls help me!?
[22:37] <vassler> other than dmsuperman.
[22:38] <belkinhelp2> so why can remote desktop find them but not the network tab?
[22:38] <Flare183> !language | vassler
[22:38] <carthik> If I switch to vt1 using ctrl-alt-f1 and then back to ctrl-alt-f7, the gdm login screen is not there anymore. Its replaced by some terminal text that says "restarting foo .... restarting bar... etc" what is going on?
[22:38] <belkinhelp2> any network ubuntu gurus here tonight?
[22:38] <Gusano> belkinhelp2: are they in the same workgroup?
[22:38] <moo_cow> belkinhelp2: check if you are in the same network. i assume you are using samba.
[22:38] <dmsuperman> vassler: You asked forh elp, I gave you a valid answer
[22:38] <belkinhelp2> Yes, all in the same workgroup
[22:38] <albuntu> BenB : i am sorry i cant help you. try #mysql . maybe someone knows
[22:38] <moo_cow> belkinhelp2: i meant workgroup not network
[22:38] <belkinhelp2> yes, im using samba
[22:39] <dmsuperman> vassler: Your question of "how" meant you've neverctually looked, because the options are in plain view if you only open a menu
[22:39] <belkinhelp2> yes, all in same workgroup
[22:39] <moo_cow> belkinhelp2: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[22:39]  * HtheB cries
[22:39] <belkinhelp2> moo_cow...i already rebooted the entire PC
[22:39] <belkinhelp2> same result
[22:39] <moo_cow> belkinhelp2: what if u do "connect to server" and choose samba?
[22:39] <linkmaster03> I need help getting the "Extract Here" option on right-click for .zip files. They open with file-roller but I don't have a right click option. I have the right click option on .tar.gz archives. Please help me. (.zip files open with file-roller, but the icon nor the extract here right-click option appear)
[22:40] <moo_cow> belkinhelp2: nmap their windows sharing ports. if they are closed, may be firewalled.
[22:40] <belkinhelp2> Moo_cow....i go through places-network and then "workgroup"....it searches....then nothing
[22:40] <dmsuperman> I'm having issues connecting from an ubuntu machine to a windows machine over mysql. This basically sums it up pretty well: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=300730 It takes about 5 seconds just to connect to the server, in linux only, no matter what tool I use (mysql cli, php, sqlyog, etc.). Once connected, it's fast. All machines are behind the same physical router. Any ideas?
[22:40] <BenB> albuntu: thanks
[22:40] <belkinhelp2> moo_cow....the other PCs have been fine and online for months now....i simply added a laptop about 5 minutes ago....now none of them appear in the network tab
[22:41] <belkinhelp2> BUT remote desktop can find them...i can log in too
[22:41] <dentistmod> Hello.
[22:41] <moo_cow> belkinhelp2: did you try my other 2 suggestions?
[22:41] <dentistmod> If a NBA player is traded to another team, does he have the right to refuse?
[22:42] <albuntu> dentistmod : only ubuntu players here. lol
[22:42] <dentistmod> ohhh, I see.
[22:42] <Gin> I have a problem with transfer speed form sata to sata drive. the driver from which I transfer to has 2 partitions. a ntfs windows partition and 2 linux partitions (/ and  /home). form windows partition to my other hd (ext3) I get 40MB/s but from my /home partition to that same drive I got 4Mb/s any idea?
[22:42] <belkinhelp2> moo_cow....doing restart now...but like I said...ive alread rebooted once
[22:42] <Prez00> dentistmod: he can refuse only if he wasn't modprobed correctly...
[22:43] <dentistmod> I see, I have no idea what that means.
[22:43] <noobuntu> belkinhelp2: i meant about nmap and nautilus connect to server.
[22:43] <albuntu> Prez00 : hahaha lol
[22:43] <sevenseeke1> tee-hee
[22:43] <pen> any good mind mapping programs?
[22:43] <belkinhelp2> noobuntu....hold please....trying second suggestion now
[22:44] <mjbt38> HOla
[22:44] <sevenseeke1> hahaha, that was great
[22:44] <sevenseeke1> Prez00: +1 for humor
[22:44] <albuntu> Prez00 : maybe try sudo apt-get remove <Player_name>
[22:44] <Flare183> pen: Dia maybe?
[22:44] <pen> Flare183, are you sure?
[22:44] <Flare183> pen: Just try it
[22:44] <sevenseeke1> pen: Semantik
[22:44] <kingtekrin> can anyone help me? I am trying to be able to start up in xp or ubuntu. I have the xp disk and stuff, but I dont know how to create a 40gb partition for the xp... I dont want to use virtual box anymore
[22:45] <Flare183> !dia
[22:45] <Flare183> crap
[22:45] <pen> heh
[22:45] <belkinhelp2> wow...this is new....seahorse nautilus module initialized
[22:45] <belkinhelp2> Initializing nautilus-share extension
[22:45] <belkinhelp2> Segmentation fault
[22:45] <belkinhelp2> what happened here?
[22:45] <belkinhelp2> why is my nautilus fried?
[22:45] <Flare183> kingtekrin: You should have installed XP first then Ubuntu
[22:45] <albuntu> kingtekrin : use the ubuntu live cd. go to system - administration - partition editor
[22:45] <kingtekrin> lol... so there isnt a backwards way?
[22:46] <belkinhelp2> noobuntu....nautilus no work
[22:46] <kingtekrin> look I have had ubuntu for about three weeks, fully
[22:46] <kingtekrin> but now i need xp too...
[22:46] <noobuntu> kingtekrin: if you install xp last in a dual boot, it will remove grub and possibly your linux partitions since the installer doesnt recognize ext3. i had to use testdisk once to recover my files.
[22:46] <Prez00> sevenseeke1, albuntu: funny goes a long way..
[22:46] <belkinhelp2> noobuntu....I just updated to heron
[22:46] <kingtekrin> and virtual box doesnt cut it
[22:46] <kingtekrin> crap
[22:46] <kingtekrin> lol
[22:46] <Gin> something very wrong with my /home partition
[22:46] <danbh_intrepid> Gin: whats wrong?
[22:47] <MetalHeadDead> how often is a new ubuntu released on disk?
[22:47] <albuntu> kingtekrin : as i sad you before use the live cd. install xp in your new partition and reinstall grub
[22:47] <MetalHeadDead> and do you have to have the disk, or can you just d/l the updates
[22:47] <danbh_intrepid> MetalHeadDead: every 6 months
[22:47] <albuntu> MetalHeadDead : 2 times a year
[22:47] <Gin> danbh_intrepid, copying file form that partition I only get 4MB/s
[22:47] <Dr_willis_> MetalHeadDead,  new release every 6 mo.. the 8.04.1 was a bit of an exception since its an LST release.. it wsa a updated in btweeen release
[22:47] <noobuntu> belkinhelp2: not sure if that new ufc firewall in ubuntu. if nmap shows ports not as open, may be a firewall on the windows machines.
[22:47] <BenB> albuntu: turns out ubuntu was at fault indeed: ubuntu uses apparmor by default. I never would have imagined that.
[22:47] <Dr_willis_> BenB,  ive never seen anything bout apparmour being used by default.
[22:47] <danbh_intrepid> Gin: ah, sounds like a hardware problem.  Its ext3,, right?
[22:48] <BenB> albuntu: adding the dir to /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld worked.
[22:48] <MetalHeadDead> Dr_willis_: that's what i was wondering, because i used to have version 3 and it wouldnt let me upgrade to 8.04
[22:48] <Dr_willis_> !apparmour
[22:48] <noobuntu> !oss4
[22:48] <noobuntu> !oss
[22:48] <Dr_willis_> !apparmor
[22:48] <MetalHeadDead> now i have 8.04 but when 9 comes out i'll have to d/l the image and reinstall?
[22:48] <BenB> Dr_willis: well, quite obviously it is: http://pastebin.ca/1223128 . when I edited /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld , it worked.
[22:48] <Dr_willis_> i wonder employed = enabled. :) perhaps it does
[22:48] <Gin> danbh_intrepid, yes, don't think it is hardware problem. on the same hd transfering form / I get 40MB/s
[22:48] <danbh_intrepid> !upgrades > MetalHeadDead
[22:48] <albuntu> BenB : maybe you installed apparmor without knowing. i had the same problem with apparmour for a port problem before. i didnt know that it can cause this kind of problem too
[22:49] <danbh_intrepid> Gin: is it ext3?
[22:49] <Gin> danbh_intrepid, it is ext3
[22:49] <danbh_intrepid> Gin: mmmmmaybe it just the location on the platters?
[22:49] <Gin> danbh_intrepid, I had to delete files several times because I used that partition /home to 100%
[22:50] <BenB> albuntu, Dr_willis: possible that I installed apparmor without remembering. still, installing and having it activated for certain apps are very different things. it should not be *used* for mysql unless I tell it to.
[22:50] <Dr_willis_> !!info apparmor
[22:50] <kingtekrin> ok then, can anyone tell me how to get virtual box with xp to recognize my USB ports and such?
[22:50] <BenB> Dr_willis: I know what apparmor is.
[22:50] <Dr_willis_> Looks like its standard..  cant say that ive ever seen anyone else in here have issues with it.
[22:50] <Gin> danbh_intrepid, could that caused this slow transfer?
[22:50] <mjbt38> Hey i have a question about xchat and how to use the scripts
[22:50] <MetalHeadDead> what does LTS stand for?
[22:50] <albuntu> kingtekrin : #virtualbox
[22:50] <mjbt38> is there a command list ? im unaware of ?
[22:50] <Dr_willis_> mjbt38,  the xchat.org homepage has VERY good docs. :)
[22:50] <Gin> MetalHeadDead, long term support
[22:50] <genii> !lts | MetalHeadDead
[22:51] <MetalHeadDead> ahh ty
[22:51] <BenB> Dr_willis: I simply wanted to change the data dir for mysql - which is not the strangest thing in the world.
[22:51] <linkmaster03> !virtualbox | kingtekrin
[22:51] <mjbt38> ty dr_wilis ...i've been ready....just not finding it all...i will keep lookin tho...thankx for the quick response
[22:52] <attickid> hello,I installed a genius tablet. I can move the cursor with the tablet, but when I press the pen against the tablet It pastes what  I had copied before, but it doesnt really make a "click"
[22:52] <linuxnewperson> i need help my my ubuntu 8.04  just wont update it fails ..   something to do with "Could not download all repository indexes"  what it says  .
[22:52] <BenB> kingtekrin: you need to enable the USB device in the virtualbox GUI
[22:52] <ubuntu_todd> what's the shortcut key to copy the commands in terminal. I am using default modes in Ubuntu
[22:52] <BenB> kingtekrin: (this is a security measure, so that your guest can't read your USB keyboard keypresses, e.g. passwords)
[22:52] <albuntu> linuxnewperson : pastebin your output so someone can help you
[22:53] <linuxnewperson> i tried also but no
[22:53] <kingtekrin> o
[22:53] <albuntu> !pastebin | linuxnewperson
[22:53] <Gin> danbh_intrepid, I think I'm gonna format my /home drive
[22:53] <Gin> I mean partition
[22:53] <danbh_intrepid> Gin: well, if it is the cause, it would be like that from the beggining
[22:54] <ubuntu_todd> What's the shortcut key to copy a command of part of it.
[22:54] <Gin> danbh_intrepid, I only notive this slow transfer lately. before I didn't have to transfer big files. so it wasn't probably slow
[22:54] <danbh_intrepid> Gin: partitions on the outer parts of the harddrive have higher data throughputs than those toward the middle.  I think.  Unless the drive is variable speed...
[22:54] <danbh_intrepid> Gin: other than that, I've no idea
[22:55] <Gin> danbh_intrepid, yea, but not that slow. 4MB/s??
[22:57] <attickid> hello,I installed a genius tablet. I can move the cursor with the tablet, but when I press the pen against the tablet It pastes what  I had copied before, but it doesnt really make a "click"
[22:57] <phoenixz> can "touch" also change the "changed" timestamp?
[22:58] <Dr_willis_> phoenixz,  i thought  it did.  but that may beonly because i use it to make new files normally.
[22:59] <soundray> phoenixz: it changes both the "accessed" and the "modified" timestamp
[22:59] <Pici> phoenixz: yes, see it's manpage.
[22:59] <go_beep_yourself> why is it that when my graphics fail to start in ubuntu, i cant switch to a virtual console using control alt f1 or any of the f keys???
[22:59] <ShaneSveller> is anyone on running ubuntu from a compactflash card?
[23:00] <roe> go_beep_yourself waht does that mean?
[23:00] <Dr_willis_> go_beep_yourself,  you may want to disable the framebuffer on the console if its enabled.. some video cards/drivers have issues with it.
[23:01] <loonysalmon> Does anybody have a good suggestion for DVR software?
[23:01] <Dr_willis_> loonysalmon,  MythTV
[23:01] <loonysalmon> thanks, is there a version of that for windows as well?
[23:01] <freebsd_fan> i can't find out if asus f7f laptop would work with ubuntu
[23:01] <freebsd_fan> i tried wikipedia list of supported hardware
[23:01] <clayg> is there anyway to change my default "sending" email address (outgoing) in thunderbird?  I keep responding to craigslist casual hookups using my realname@gmail.com
[23:01] <freebsd_fan> any clies?
[23:01] <go_beep_yourself> Dr_willis_-> i think its only happening when the nvidia driver isnt configured and the graphics dont start. how can i disable that framebuffer just temporarily so i can get to a virtual console?
[23:02] <Salsero_Nash> hello I need a with my proftpd
[23:02] <freebsd_fan> also i have sitecom usb surround sound for it
[23:02] <linkmaster03> Salsero_Nash: what's wrong
[23:02] <Salsero_Nash> I have in a server
[23:02] <Dr_willis_> go_beep_yourself,  i always use 'nosplash' and 'nofb' as kernel boot options - that way i get a nice normal text only consoel.
[23:02] <go_beep_yourself> Dr_willis_-> thanks, ill reboot and try that
[23:03] <linkmaster03> Dr_willis_: oo, what's 'nofb' do? I only have 'nosplash'
[23:03] <Dr_willis_> go_beep_yourself,  ive seen some other odd things with nvidia in the past.. you dont happend ot have a tv hooked up to it do you?
[23:03] <go_beep_yourself> Dr_willis_-> no i dont
[23:03] <Dr_willis_> go_beep_yourself,  one video card i had for some reason defaulted to the TV OUT. if i dident have the nvidia drivers installed. :)
[23:03] <Dr_willis_> linkmaster03,  noframebuffer.
[23:03] <Salsero_Nash> linkmaster03: whit anonymous config
[23:03] <Dr_willis_> linkmaster03,  it gets the console as as near a 'normal old fashioned way' as it can get.
[23:04] <Salsero_Nash> linkmaster03: and ask me for pass and is very slow
[23:04] <Jensh> I've just installed Ubuntu and have some network problems.. I can ping IPs outside the local network, but 100% packet loss. If I try to ping hostnames I get the errormessage "Hostname not found". I have tried to add the DNS searchpath, but this doesn't help. When I run ifconfig I only get a IPv6 adress.. I have also tried to manually add DNS adresses found through ipconfig in windows, but this eventually just delayed the "Hostname not found" errormessag
[23:04] <Salsero_Nash> linkmaster03: the server?s slock show me that exist a conflict with IPv6
[23:04] <Salsero_Nash> en my DNS
[23:05] <Azhi_Dahaka> howdy
[23:05] <albuntu> Jensh : what version of ubuntu are you using and what is your network card
[23:05] <phpstar> helow everyone
[23:05] <Salsero_Nash> I can dsiable my IPv6 because is by default in proftpd and DNS can live in the server with IPv6
[23:05] <danbh_intrepid> Jensh: dig is a command to test DNS stuff, FYI
[23:05] <Dillizar> !daa
[23:06] <phpstar> is  it possible to setup secure browserbased FTP ??
[23:06] <Dillizar> does any body knows how to extract a .daa file?
[23:06] <Andy80> hi all
[23:06] <phpstar> yes dillzar
[23:06] <pvh_sa> hey there... i'm trying to get a canon mp210 multi-function printer to work on ubuntu... problem is, the option dialogue is a bit sparse and it doesn't allow me to set draft mode...
[23:06] <KenBW2> I'm trying to run the Android SDK. I've followed all the instructions on the Android page, but I'm struggling to figure out how to actually run it. Anyone help?
[23:06] <vilhelm> has anyone tried ubuntu ultimate edition?
[23:06] <Dillizar> phpstar: tell me
[23:06] <socom> hi
[23:06] <Gin> danbh_intrepid, I formatted my /home partition and I can copy about 500MB in a few seconds now! :-)
[23:07] <phpstar> dillzar: u have to use poweriso program if u using windows
[23:07] <Azhi_Dahaka> how can i enable secure shell in my ubuntu box?
[23:07] <Gin> something was very wrong with that filesystem
[23:07] <albuntu> !poweriso | Dillizar
[23:07] <Dillizar> phpstar: tell my girlfrine will kill me
[23:07] <Jensh> im using 8.04 and the network card is integrated in my motherboard wich is a EVGA nForce 680i SLI nf680i SLI, S-775
[23:07] <albuntu> Dillizar : use poweriso
[23:07] <Dillizar> oholiks: i use ubuntu?
[23:07] <phpstar> google poweriso
[23:07] <Jensh> thanks danbh ill try it afterwards ;)
[23:07] <danbh_intrepid> Gin: crazy, so all it needed was a format.  Too bad you didnt try a fsck.  Maybe that would have fixed it
[23:07] <phpstar> is  it possible to setup secure browserbased FTP ??
[23:08] <genii> Dillizar: poweriso or magiciso will open it and you can convert to standard iso. magiciso works under wine as well
[23:08] <linkmaster03> Dr_willis_: where do i add 'nofb' in menu.lst? the line for the boot option starting with 'kernel    /boot/'etcetc
[23:08] <Gin> danbh_intrepid, I did try that
[23:08] <gray--> phpstar: you can't use an sftp client?
[23:08] <albuntu> Dillizar : try aptitude search poweriso
[23:08] <Gin> danbh_intrepid, I am surprised  that fsck did not fixed it
[23:08] <phpstar> no
[23:08] <phpstar> i have 300 customers
[23:08] <phpstar> and all wants webbased
[23:08] <Dillizar> 10x genii now my girlfriend will not kill me and not make me put windows again :D
[23:08] <danbh_intrepid> Gin: yeah, that sucks
[23:09] <gray--> and you'd like to teach them all to use firefox to use secure ftp?
[23:09] <phpstar> and FTP is not secure :(
[23:09] <phpstar> firefox also use fireftp
[23:09] <phpstar> i cant each them coz they r pretty much dumb
[23:09] <phpstar> is it possible i create secure apache and inside apache i install vsftpd
[23:10] <ryanakca> phpstar: no clue what the question was, but setup sftp, and then get them an easy to use SFTP client...
[23:10] <gray--> try asking in the apache channel on that one
[23:10] <Jimmey> I am having trouble mounting my sansa clip MTP usb device. Even the failsafe method of connecting it to the computer isn't registering the device - Anyone have any suggestions?
[23:10] <phpstar> rryanka my clients dont wanna use FTP client
[23:10] <phpstar> they like browser base
[23:10] <MetalHeadDead> is it worthwhile to convert my .mp3's and .wma's to og-vorbis?
[23:11] <gray--> they need to get used to not liking browser based methinks
[23:11] <Gin> this fix really gave my ubuntu a new life
[23:11] <Azhi_Dahaka> hi, how can i enable the secure shell on my ubuntu box?
[23:11] <albuntu> Gin : lol
[23:11] <gray--> fireftp isn't a good option?
[23:11] <ryanakca> phpstar: look for a sftp webapp... http://sftp.thinfile.com/sftp/ comes up with a quick google search.
[23:12] <pvh_sa> MetalHeadDead, i wouldn't do that... because going form a lossy format (mp3 and wma) to another lossy format (ogg) is going to lose quite a bit of quality...
[23:12] <phpstar> thx
[23:12] <Dr_willis_> linkmaster03,  i add it to the default options line. that way it gets added to all kernels when you run update-grub
[23:12] <ryanakca> phpstar: more quick google searching. http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/1576/
[23:12] <MetalHeadDead> pvh_sa: ok i knew it would but i wasnt sure if it would be noticeable or not.  im trying to make my instally as media friendly as possible
[23:13] <vexellon> what is the wine channel?
[23:13] <phpstar> thx
[23:13] <eitreach> vexellon: #wine
[23:13] <vexellon> I am getting this error in apt: W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com hardy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263
[23:14] <eitreach> vexellon: have you downloaded the key?
[23:15] <vexellon> eitrach, how do i?
[23:16] <Dillizar> thank you very a lot all powersio works :D i am alive
[23:16] <vexellon> eitreach, how do i do that?
[23:16] <lfaraone> Hey, anyone here familiar with pptpd? How would I denote a /16 block of IPs in the /etc/pptd.config file? (like 192.168.0.0 to 192.168.255.255)
[23:16] <genii> vexellon: Follow the concise instructions at http://winehq.org/site/download-deb
[23:16] <albuntu> Dillizar : good to hear that
[23:17] <Dillizar> :D
[23:17] <EdUdE> urge.net
[23:18] <deaftone> anyone know of an app for load balancing multiple gateways?
[23:19] <kansan> i have a microsoft mouse, and i would like have it (1) when i click left & right buttons at same time it pastes stuff in the register (2) when i click the middle button it pastes the register.  currently neither works.  microsfot wireless mouse
[23:20] <Dillizar> albuntu: cuz i have put my hdd in 4 different PC and different MB how can i set my drivers for this MB
[23:21] <Dr_willis_> kansan,  middle click is normally set to paste the selection.. try selecting somthing in a teminal then middle clicking.. you are saying that dosent work? the 'selection' is a little different from the 'clipboard' also.
[23:21] <dmsuperman> I'm having issues connecting from an ubuntu machine to a windows machine over mysql. This basically sums it up pretty well: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=300730 It takes about 5 seconds just to connect to the server, in linux only, no matter what tool I use (mysql cli, php, sqlyog, etc.). Once connected, it's fast. All machines are behind the same physical router. Any ideas?
[23:22] <xomp> help, I can't install this theme I have, says it failed. I'm dragging the theme package "theme.tar.gz" to the "Appearance" window in Gnome and that's when I get the error.
[23:22] <dmsuperman> xomp: You're sure it's a gnome theme?
[23:22] <Dr_willis_> xomp,  uncompress the package to some other directory and look at whats in it.. it may be in nexted subdirs..or the wrong kind of theme file
[23:22] <xomp> dmsuperman, yah, got it from gnome-look.org
[23:23] <dmsuperman> xomp: More than just gnome themes are on gnome-look.org
[23:23] <dmsuperman> xomp: Emerald themes, for instance
[23:23] <drich0> I'm running UbuntuStudio 8.04 and my backtick/tilde key only works if I press it twice.  I have a Logitech Ultra-X keyboard.
[23:23] <xomp> dmsuperman, I'm aware of that, the theme I got is GTK2.x
[23:23] <nickrud> and not all the themes uploaded to gnome-look are even packaged right
[23:23] <JanHus> Dear Sirs
[23:23] <JanHus> Could I ask a question?
[23:24] <nickrud> JanHus, no need to ask to ask, just ask ;)
[23:24] <Dr_willis_> JanHus,  ask the actual question :)
[23:24] <md22> is ubuntu good for someone who wants to learn to develop aps in Linux ?
[23:24] <nickrud> md22, yes, install build-essential for the basic compilation tools
[23:24] <xomp> Dr_willis_, when I extract the theme package there are several folders like 16x16, 48x48 etc. EXTRAS, scalable, index.theme.
[23:24] <JanHus> Hey, you are unbelievable!!
[23:24] <Dr_willis_> md22,  yes. about any linux fits that description.
[23:24] <K-Rich> Hi, anyone got a minute?
[23:24] <JanHus> Thank you!
[23:25] <md22> ok nice
[23:25] <Dr_willis_> xomp,  looks like an icon theme package to me.
[23:25] <xomp> dr_Willis, ahh ok
[23:25] <JanHus> I use Adobe Pro and Abbyy FineReader for my e-documents
[23:25]  * midoi hi
[23:26] <drich0> I'm running UbuntuStudio 8.04 and my backtick/tilde key only works if I press it twice.  I have a Logitech Ultra-X keyboard and my keyboard layout is set for that specific keyboard.  Any ideas?
[23:26] <md22> one other thing does ubuntu support hardware acceleration for ati cards (eg radeon hd 3850)
[23:26] <nickrud> md22, if ati adds it to their non-free driver, ubuntu can use it
[23:26] <JanHus> my prime languages are Greek and English. Are there any Linux programmes that are doing the same?
[23:26] <HemeAtWork> Why would files not show up in Gedits file browser plugin?
[23:26] <f|uke> Whats a solid FTP server ?
[23:27] <Dr_willis_> !ftp
[23:27] <nickrud> JanHus, I've been able to read just about any pdf (haven't looked in greek, but it supports utf8) in evince
[23:27] <Dedi> anyone knows another wysiwyg editor? (kompozer just crashes all the time, oo writer cant handle images sizes)
[23:27] <f|uke> !FTPd
[23:27] <md22> nice. . i am gonna start the install.﻿I'll see you guys on the other side
[23:28] <f|uke> too many ><    none to reccomend?
[23:28] <pen> anyone using google notebook extension in firefox?
[23:28] <JanHus> nickrud, to read ok but to OCR?
[23:28] <xiamx> nice .. bot...
[23:28] <pen> why does it refresh the page when I open the pop-up
[23:28] <drich0> f|uke: I usually use pureftpd
[23:28] <K-Rich> I changed my workgroup using shares-admin (this also changes /etc/samba/smb.conf on the workgroup line. after a reboot i am in the correct workgroup, but i now have an icon for the other workgroup (in Places > Network > Windows Shares)  This workgroup doesn't exist, how do i remove the icon?
[23:29] <f|uke> Thanks drich0. Does it have a GUI? Secure and functional?
[23:29] <xiamx> drich0: me 2 lol
[23:29] <attickid> pen: me
[23:29] <xiamx> f|uke: if you want a gui,   webmin is good for all server configuration
[23:29] <f|uke> ah, solid.
[23:29] <drich0> f|uke: I haven't gotten into the config too much.  Generally just load it up and use it on my LAN
[23:29] <nickrud> JanHus, ocr is not something I've used in linux myself. I haven't heard good things, either: but I don't want to spread fud so I'll say my knowledge there is sadly lacking
[23:29] <pen> attickid, do you know how to solve the bug for google notebook extension?
[23:30] <f|uke> Right. I just want to access my desktop from anywhere.
[23:30] <K-Rich> f|uke: vnc?
[23:30] <JanHus> nickrud, who else could help me?
[23:30] <f|uke> Already set up,. vnc through ssh.. but I want to retrieve files
[23:30] <drich0> JanHus: For OCR, I've used gocr with some success, might be worth a try
[23:31] <nickrud> JanHus, ask here about every 10 minutes or so. Probably within the hour someone who uses ocr will pass thru
[23:31] <basti> f|uke, scp
[23:31] <xiamx> f|uke: ssh + tftp
[23:31] <f|uke> I will look into both of those ;)
[23:31] <Dr_willis_> ssh is our friend.. down with ftp
[23:31] <nickrud> scp !!!
[23:31] <Dr_willis_> if you have ssh setup.. dont bother with ftp
[23:32] <f|uke> Gotcha. scp. I'll read up on it. Cheers
[23:32] <attickid> pen: what bug are you talking about?
[23:32] <nickrud> or connect your file browser to the remote machine so you can drag & drop
[23:32] <nickrud> *through ssh
[23:32] <Gin> my system is so much faster :-)
[23:33] <f|uke> nickrud, can you give me a clue on where to start with that?
[23:33] <nickrud> f|uke, places->connect to server
[23:33] <xiamx> Anyone knows why  when i try to login from ssh, the delay between enter username & password is so long?
[23:34] <DigitalFiz> local network?
[23:34] <f|uke> oh. wow.thats easy O.o
[23:34] <xiamx> yes
[23:34] <xiamx> i also tried to connect gentoo, was much faster
[23:34] <nickrud> f|uke, pretty nice: the remote server will show up in the file select dialog and everything. Very nice for quick work on a remote web site
[23:34] <DigitalFiz> its trying to resolve your local ip which is cant there is a setting in the sshd_config to not try and resolve hosts
[23:34] <pen> attickid, when you want to open notebook from the statusbar the page will refresh
[23:35] <xiamx> how can i set that config in sshd_config?
[23:35] <DigitalFiz> edit it?
[23:35] <f|uke> Thanks nickrud :)
[23:35] <xiamx> DigitalFiz, where is the config file?
[23:36] <DigitalFiz> use locate to find it
[23:36] <nickrud> f|uke, one more thing: make a bookmark of it, so you can reopen conviently
[23:36] <Bobbob> Anyone able to help me get my USB RF Mouse working? It is definately not plugging and playing...
[23:36] <attickid> pen: I dont have such bug
[23:36] <attickid> pen: maybe you gotta ask in the googlewebsite
[23:36] <xiamx> DigitalFiz, is sshd_config the file name?
[23:36] <DigitalFiz> xiamx, yes
[23:36] <pen> attickid, are you using firefox2?
[23:36] <drich0> xiamx: /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[23:36] <Dr_willis_> its worth reading a few ssh docs :)
[23:36] <Mo9a7i> Hi there , what's the best release of ubuntu is best for my INSPIRON 1520 core2duo , (Standard or 64 bit) ?
[23:36] <pen> attickid, and did you set the notebook as pop-up? not pop-in?
[23:36] <xiamx> drich0, thanks
[23:37] <Bobbob> I assume I have to modify my xorg.conf but I'm not sure what I actually need to do and I can't find a tutorial on the forums
[23:37] <xiamx> DigitalFiz, thanks too
[23:37] <f|uke> holy crap. root access just like that o.o
[23:37] <Dr_willis_> Mo9a7i,  how muych ram.  - i alwyas use 32bit distros..
[23:37] <Mo9a7i> 2 GBs
[23:37] <nickrud> nah, much more fun to muck around with config files blindly :)
[23:37] <Dr_willis_> Mo9a7i,  i would stick with the 32bit then.
[23:37] <Mo9a7i> Dr_willis_ , thank you :) i'll start downloading and installing
[23:38] <PicciCore> che è quaa
[23:38] <Bobbob> Anyone able to help me get my USB RF Mouse working? It seems to be detected, but it doesn't function...
[23:38] <PicciCore> lol
[23:38] <nickrud> Bobbob, first thing, make sure it's being recognized as hardware: unplug it, and in a terminal type   tail -f /var/log/syslog   , then plug it in. The terminal will show a series of messages, hopefully saying it was recognized by the kernel
[23:38] <drich0> My backtick/tilde key only works if I hit it twice (not a dirty/sticky key -- consistently works if i hit it twice).  any ideas?
[23:39] <_Zeus_> it's broken?
[23:39] <drich0> don't think so
[23:39] <_Zeus_> get another keyboard?
[23:39] <drich0> otherwise i would think it wouldn't work consistently with two presses
[23:39] <LjL> drich0: you're using an international layout
[23:39] <drich0> LjL: no
[23:39] <LjL> _Zeus_, give advice if you know what you're talking about...
[23:39] <drich0> i set the keyboard layout to the specific kb
[23:39] <LjL> drich0: try hitting it and then hitting Space
[23:40] <_Zeus_> LjL: thanks, but i don't need your sarcasm
[23:40] <drich0> LjL: yes, that works
[23:40] <LjL> _Zeus_: and he doesn't need your nonsensical advice
[23:40] <K-Rich> Can anyone help me with a networking issue?
[23:40] <Bobbob> okay, stuff definatly happened when I plugged it in
[23:40] <LjL> drich0: you're using an international layout - i insist
[23:40] <LjL> drich0: like US International, if you're in the US
[23:40] <_Zeus_> !coc | LjL
[23:40] <drich0> LjL: If i hit the backtick key then space, it outputs the backtick.  OK, so it's international then, how do i change that?
[23:40] <jjohnson> sigh, im having a problem getting my laptops wirelss to work, would anyone be able to hel (visit http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=940944 for discription of problem)?
[23:40] <nickrud> _Zeus_, so abide by it
[23:40] <LjL> drich0: try hitting it and then hitting the letter "n" - you'll probably see what this is about
[23:41] <_Zeus_> nickrud: i'm just trying to help?  what do you mean>
[23:41] <LjL> !kidding | _Zeus_
[23:41] <nickrud> as ljl said, useful advice is helpful
[23:41] <drich0> LjL: I hit backtick then "n", nothing
[23:41] <_Zeus_> LjL: what do you mean kidding?  i wasn't
[23:41] <nickrud> Bobbob, did it say all good? Like a driver got loaded, etc?
[23:41] <LjL> drinci meant tilde, not backtick. anyway you can also try backtick and then "a"
[23:41] <pen> attickid, so?
[23:41] <pen> you there?
[23:41] <Bobbob> seems to be recognized as a "usb_device_62a_0_noserial_if0"
[23:41] <zezom> for some reason my update manager does not check for updates it's self and I have to manually check it every now and then, does any one know what kicks off the update manager?
[23:41] <nickrud> Bobbob, if you're not sure, copy the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[23:42] <Bobbob> I dont see anything about a driver
[23:42] <Bobbob> wait
[23:42] <LjL> _Zeus_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines - see the "When helping, be helpful" section
[23:42] <Bobbob> saids something about USB v1.10 Mouse
[23:42] <K-Rich> Can anyone help me with a networking issue?
[23:42] <attickid> pen: I use firefox
[23:42] <attickid> pen: I got pop in
[23:42] <LjL> drich0: meant tilde, not backtick. anyway you can also try backtick and then "a"
[23:42] <attickid> pen: ;P sorry
[23:42] <nickrud> K-Rich, ask the question, someone may recognize the symptoms
[23:42] <Headcase> Is there an easy fix if i've forgotten my root password... but have access to the box itself
[23:42] <drich0> LjL: Yes, i tried backtick then 'a' and got an a with an accent
[23:42] <K-Rich> ok
[23:43] <K-Rich> I changed my workgroup using shares-admin (this also changes /etc/samba/smb.conf on the workgroup line. after a reboot i am in the correct workgroup, but i now have an icon for the other workgroup (in Places > Network > Windows Shares)  This workgroup doesn't exist, how do i remove the icon?
[23:43] <Headcase> Someone said something about getting into single user mode, and editing /etc/shadow
[23:43] <pen> attickid, you are not being specific
[23:43]  * nickrud sidles away from samba questions
[23:43] <pen> attickid, and you didn't say if your page refresh or not
[23:43] <Headcase> so far i'm stuck on how to get it to boot into single user mode with grub
[23:43] <Bobbob> its on a laptop with a working touchpad if that impacts this procedure nickrud
[23:43] <KingDong> i am new to ubuntu, what is the crontab format to run a command hourly ?  60 * * * * /some/command ??????????????
[23:43] <drich0> LjL: How do I turn off the international layout?
[23:43] <LjL> drich0: precisely. what's happening is that you have a keyboard layout that uses "combining" characters: if you hit ~ and then "n", you get ñ. if you hit ` and then "a", you get à. and several other combinations
[23:43] <Dr_willis_> !cron
[23:43] <LjL> drich0: i'm not on GNOME, but i have another computer that has it, so hold on a second and i'll check
[23:43] <drich0> LjL: Great, thanks
[23:44] <nickrud> Bobbob, probably not, my wireless rf mouse worked fine. (amazing how the mind goes blank when unused, I haven't troubleshot mice for a couple months and things come back slooowly)
[23:44] <pen> anyone using firefox 3.0.3 and google notebook extension experiences bug like open pop-in will refresh the current page?
[23:44] <attickid> pen: my page doenst refresh
[23:45] <pen> attickid, are you using firefox 3.0.3? and what version of google notebook are you using?
[23:45] <LjL> !layout | drich0
[23:45] <Bobbob> this channel keeps lagging for me...
[23:45] <pen> ?
[23:45] <nickrud> Bobbob, and I'm on a virtual machine that pretends to be a wired mouse, so I can't refresh my memory
[23:45] <Dr_willis_> Bobbob,  use a smaller font. :) it helps
[23:45] <attickid> pen: im using firefox 3.0.1  the notebook is set as pop in and notebook version is 1.0.0.22
[23:46] <pen> attickid, ubuntu8.04?
[23:46] <LjL> drich0: i can't find it precisely, as i don't have a US keyboard myself... but i really think it's a matter of selecting "US" instead of "US Intl", or instead of "US with dead keys", though i can only guess
[23:47] <drich0> LjL: Got it.  Thanks a million.  That was driving me nuts.  I looks like 'USA International (with dead keys)' was set up instead of 'USA (Default)'
[23:47] <LjL> drich0: yes, that would be it.
[23:48] <drich0> Writing patches in pd is definitely a hassle with a two-press tilde :)
[23:48] <eneias> ola
[23:48] <hard^^> hi
[23:48] <eneias> brasil?
[23:48] <attickid> pen: ubuntu 7.10
[23:48] <szal> !br | eneias
[23:48] <Headcase> so anyone know how to 'reset' my root password ?
[23:48] <eneias> ubuntu pt
[23:48] <pen> attickid, hm
[23:49] <szal> eneias: /j #ubuntu-pt
[23:49] <Dr_willis_> Headcase,  boot live cd, chroot to installes system. use passwd command . is one way
[23:49] <Pici> Headcase: Ubuntu does not use root with a password by default, have you changed this?
[23:50] <Dr_willis_> Headcase,  'set' is different from 'reset' :)   tis is assumingyou actually set a root password.
[23:50] <JanHus> nickrud, drich0, thanx!
[23:50] <kFj> hi. im getting the following error when trying to run openoffice :[Java framework] Error in function createSettingsDocument (elements.cxx).javaldx failed!
[23:50] <kFj> i dont have a userprofile folder in my home dir.
[23:51] <[Solars]> !password | Headcase
[23:51] <Pici> !sudo | Headcase
[23:51] <eneias> oi
[23:51] <eneias> alguem pode me ajudar?
[23:51] <K-Rich> I changed my workgroup using shares-admin (this also changes /etc/samba/smb.conf on the workgroup line. after a reboot i am in the correct workgroup, but i now have an icon for the other workgroup (in Places > Network > Windows Shares)  This workgroup doesn't exist, how do i remove the icon?
[23:52] <eneias> ola
[23:52] <Pici> !br | eneias
[23:53] <SleazyC> Anyone have any experience working with the intel 915G integrated graphics. Can't get any type of 3d rendering or games to work in Wine and I think it has to do with vid drivers not being configured or installed right
[23:54] <jasuus> is there anyway to stop the messages that show "has quit" and "has joined"
[23:55] <jasuus> or "has left"
[23:55] <Dr_willis_> jasuus,  read the docs for your irc client.. for a starters.. :)
[23:55] <kieko> hi
[23:55] <kieko> anyone know of an equivalent to http://www.yousendit.com/ for sending files, but that is better maybe?
[23:55] <jasuus> never!
[23:55] <Dr_willis_> jasuus,  then.. no theres no way... :)
[23:55] <jasuus> darn
[23:55] <jjohnson> yawn
[23:56] <Dr_willis_> jasuus,  perhaps if ya told us what irc client you are using....
[23:56] <morth_> Hello room
[23:56] <jasuus> Xchat
[23:56] <jjohnson> sup morth
[23:56] <morth_> not much how about yourself?
[23:56] <DigitalFiz> jasuus, right click on the channel and be enlightened
[23:57] <Dr_willis_> jasuus,  tjers a optiopnm to hide part/joins via the /commands (conferance mode) or you can edit the settings-> advanced-> text events
[23:57] <jjohnson> nm just sitting here pretending to work lol ;)
[23:57] <jasuus> ok thanks
[23:57] <morth_> lmao true enough
[23:57] <Dr_willis_> xchat has a VERY well done faq/docs at their homepage...
[23:57] <jasuus> i was just being a lazy arse
[23:58] <DigitalFiz> also there is #xchat
[23:58] <pen> anyone using firefox 3.0.3 and google notebook extension experiences bug like open pop-in will refresh the current page?
[23:58] <haroot> hi
[23:58] <jjohnson>  WHY OH WHY, did my next door cubicle buddy have to order that BBQ chicken, it smells so good, and im so hungary
[23:59] <drich0> thanks for the help guys
[23:59] <jasuus> um BBQ chx
[23:59] <clayg> is there anyway to change my default "sending" email address (outgoing) in thunderbird?  I keep responding to craigslist casual hookups using my realname@gmail.com