[00:46] <The-Kernel> hum...new install of xubuntu...hald takes 5 minutes to start on boot up
[00:48] <The-Kernel> now, I get a fail to initlize hal when I load gdm
[01:05] <BunnyRevolution> hi.  i'd like to play a dvd in xubuntu hardy.  is there something i'm not doing right?
[01:05] <BunnyRevolution> do i need extra codecs?
[01:06] <favro> !dvd
[01:41] <homebrewcider> can someone help me access another computer on my lan please? I'm on my xubuntu box, the other is a heavily stuffed windows box currently runnung a live xubuntu cd. I can see the files I want to get with lanshark program but can't copy them across
[01:44] <zoredache> one fairly easy method would be to install and start openssh-server on the livecd box.  Then simply use gftp-gtk to connect via ssh and copy stuff accross
[02:06] <eranj> hey guys
[02:17] <cruzer> yeah, i just installed xubuntu on an old laptop, the wifi works but my graphics card doesnt. the card isint a major card. is there anyway i cant get it to native res?
[03:02] <jean-louis> it's not easy to add an application to the deskbar, hard find icons, no drag and drop possibility
[04:04] <tonysssss> hey
[04:04] <tonysssss> is it possible to install xubuntu while retaining the windows bootloader?
[04:07] <Odd-rationale> tonysssss: i believe so... see the !grub factiod...
[04:08] <tonysssss> whats that
[04:12] <David-A> !grub
[04:12] <David-A> !factiod
[04:13] <David-A> ,factiod is I am one
[04:14] <David-A> !factiod
[04:15] <David-A> ,factiod
[04:15] <David-A> ,forget factiod
[04:17] <David-A> David-A: no, I don't know what I am doing
[05:48] <JinKazama> hi all. when I type ./networking restart to restart my network interfaces, after restart command prompt stops and maybe keep waiting for some other command. I exit from that with Alt+C byt I don't know if that is right. ...  ? :-)
[05:49] <Odd-rationale> JinKazama: try "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[05:51] <JinKazama> yes. that I typing to restart. but after restart the command prompt stops ... and waits for somethin else. I don't know what to do then...
[05:53] <Odd-rationale> JinKazama: does the command i posted do that?
[05:53] <JinKazama> yes
[05:54] <Odd-rationale> JinKazama: you should seee: netwoking        [stop]
[05:54] <JinKazama>  * Reconfiguring network interfaces...                                   [ OK ]
[05:54] <JinKazama> sotirov@sotirov-laptop:~$  * Stopping NTP server ntpd
[05:54] <JinKazama>    ...done.
[05:54] <JinKazama>  * Starting NTP server ntpd
[05:54] <JinKazama>    ...done.
[05:54] <JinKazama> and then stops and waits ...
[05:55] <Odd-rationale> stops at sotirov@sotirov-laptop:~$ ?
[05:56] <JinKazama> this is the code from terminal I paste it here
[05:58] <Odd-rationale> JinKazama: well, that looks ok...
[05:58] <JinKazama> after second " ...done" I don't know hwt to do. btw the network works propertly. my question is if after restart I myst type Alt+C to exit ?
[05:58] <JinKazama> *what to do ...
[05:59] <Odd-rationale> JinKazama: alt+c? or ctrl+c ?
[05:59] <JinKazama> yes ... sorry :) Ctrl+C
[06:00] <Odd-rationale> i don't think you should... but if it works... :P
[06:00] <JinKazama> :)
[06:00] <JinKazama> ok. thanks Odd-rationale :)
[11:55] <o7andrew> hey guys, what version are you all using now?
[11:56] <o7andrew> oh crap
[11:56] <o7andrew> lol
[11:56] <o7andrew> I'm on 7.10
[11:57] <o7andrew> I'
[11:59] <wormsxulla_> hello. i'm running 7.10 on a eee pc, and i don't have a system beep, but sound does work. could anyone help?
[12:00] <o7andrew> 've just installed xubuntu, and loved the fact that it found and connected my wireless card automagically >much like windows... I also used 'standby' and that worked like really fast > I loved that... but I'd really like to set up hibernation <after grub | as I'm dual-booting my friends windows box> and I was wondering if anyone here knows how to do that??
[12:02] <o7andrew> thinkmassive: cool name bro"
[12:03] <o7andrew> I'll be back in the next day or so, c.u.all
[12:19] <zairo> hi. how to resize the icon on xubuntu desktop. i use compiz. before this is work like a charm using setting > setting manager > desktop.
[15:59] <b3nw> there isn't a xubuntu+1 channel I assume?
[16:08] <knome> b3nw, no
[16:08] <knome> b3nw, #ubuntu+1 is for all "flavors"
[16:12] <b3nw> knome - thanks
[16:12] <knome> np
[16:13] <wormsxulla_> hi. does anyone know about connecting an imode phone (used as a modem) to a pc with xubuntu?
[16:14] <jals> what app can i use to encode wav files to mp3?
[17:05] <Ahtenus> I want to connect to shared folders on a windows computer, how do I do that?
[17:05] <TheSheep> Ahtenus: using some smb client
[17:06] <zoredache> !fusesmb
[17:06] <Ahtenus> k
[17:15] <TheSheep> jals: sound converter, for example
[17:26] <jals> cheers TheSheep
[17:55] <Awsoonn> what is a good pdf reader for xubuntu?
[17:56] <TheSheep> the default one
[17:56] <TheSheep> evince
[17:56] <Awsoonn> I was hopeing for something that didn't rely on gnome.
[17:57] <Myrtti> er
[17:57] <Myrtti> since when has evince relied on gnome?
[17:57] <Awsoonn> It's listed as a dependancy, let me look again maybe I made a mistake
[17:57] <TheSheep> on the contrary, I think xubuntu devs helped removing the gnome deps from it
[17:57] <Myrtti> please do
[17:57] <zoredache> gtk != gnome
[17:58] <TheSheep> !info evince-gtk
[17:59] <Awsoonn> libgnome2-0 (>= 2.17.3) listed as a depends
[17:59] <Myrtti> yeeeesss?
[18:00] <Awsoonn> ah ha! evince-gtk :)
[18:00] <TheSheep> it still relies on gnome-icon-theme, but I guess you'll have to live with that
[18:01] <Awsoonn> hmmm, I got to learn something today.  :)
[18:01] <Awsoonn> next question is, what is dbus?
[18:01] <Awsoonn> I thought that was a gnome framework for messaging between programs and such.
[18:02] <bytor4232> !dbus
[18:02] <bytor4232> dang
[18:02] <Awsoonn> :P
[18:03] <bytor4232> D-Bus is a message bus system, a simple way for applications to talk to one another. In addition to interprocess communication, D-Bus helps coordinate process lifecycle; it makes it simple and reliable to code a "single instance" application or daemon, and to launch applications and daemons on demand when their services are needed.
[18:03] <zoredache> simply strike the 'gnome' part of your statment and it sounds like you have a good idea
[18:03] <bytor4232> from http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus
[18:04] <bytor4232> Hm.  It was developed by RedHat.  Interesting.
[18:04] <Awsoonn> right on, I am just rying to keep this machine as lean on the memory as possible is my goal. It's kinda old...
[18:04] <bytor4232> Turn off the gnome and kde sessions in "Sessions and Startup" in the settings manager.
[18:05] <TheSheep> reduce color depth and resolution
[18:05] <bytor4232> TheSheep: never thought about doing that.
[18:05] <bytor4232> TheSheep: My processor may be a tad on the slow side, but I have plenty of ram.
[18:07] <Awsoonn> bytor4232: session tip < - THANKS
[18:16] <Ahtenus> I used this guide to set up fusesmb:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb but there is two problems;1. I can only see my one computer. pinging the other comuter works.2. My win comuter can read my share but not write to it.
[18:19] <Ahtenus> Anyone?
[18:19] <cody-somerville> Ahtenus, hi
[18:19] <Ahtenus> hi
[18:20] <Ahtenus> you read my problem right?
[18:20] <Ahtenus> question..
[18:20] <cody-somerville> Yup
[18:21] <bytor4232> Ahtenus: Usually if noone answers, we don't know or don't have time.  You could always try in the #ubuntu channel since this is more of a core system issue, rather than xubuntu specific.
[18:21] <cody-somerville> Ahtenus, you probably didn't set your username and password correctly in the fusemb config
[18:22] <zoredache> for the computer you are having problems with, make sure you are in the correct workgroup, make sure you aren't firewalling 'file and print sharing'.  Make sure computer name use the characters [-a-z0-9] only.
[18:22] <Ahtenus> I souldn't enter my user password or?
[18:23] <danielm> zoredache++
[18:23] <knome> kaffeine can play dvd's, but gxine or vlc not.
[18:25] <TheSheep> !dvd | knome
[18:25] <knome> TheSheep, yes?
[18:26] <knome> doesn't really help with my problem
[18:27] <TheSheep> knome: from what you described, should help
[18:28] <knome> can you be more verbose, like how?
[18:29] <cody-somerville> gxine uses a different backend then what Xubuntu uses by default (gstreamer)
[18:29] <knome> a-ha
[18:29] <knome> so would totem be the preferred player?
[18:30] <cody-somerville> right
[18:30] <knome> ok
[18:30] <knome> so it can't show the menus of this dvd, for example
[18:31] <cody-somerville> Yea, Totem doesn't support that :P
[18:31] <cody-somerville> I use vlc myself
[18:32] <knome> may i ask why totem is the default then?
[18:32] <TheSheep> because we cannot ship vlc because of legal resons
[18:33] <TheSheep> some reactionary countries, like USA or Japan have laws against it :)
[18:56] <ruif13> hi
[18:56] <ruif13> i've a xubuntu server installed in a p3-550 machine
[18:56] <ruif13> but the distro have a lot of installed software i need to uninstall all.
[18:57] <ruif13> is anyway to put xubuntu like a fresh install or i need it to install it again?
[18:57] <TheSheep> ruif13: you can just uninstall the programs you don't need...
[18:57] <ruif13> hum but i have some wrong configs i don't reemember like
[18:57] <ruif13> apache settings etc
[18:58] <ruif13> and zivios wrong setups
[18:58] <ruif13> and i need to setup xubuntu like a new one install
[18:58] <TheSheep> you can purge the configs when uninstalling
[18:58] <ruif13> what is the best way?
[18:58] <ruif13> hum
[18:58] <ruif13> not bad idea
[18:59] <ruif13> and i can do a new fresh install over network?
[18:59] <ruif13> i've a good internet conection
[18:59] <TheSheep> /var/lib/apt/extended_states <-- contains information on whether a package was automatically installed as a dependency, or installed explicitly by you
[18:59] <TheSheep> yes, you can
[19:00] <TheSheep> with the mini cd
[19:00] <TheSheep> !install
[19:00] <ruif13> because i don't have cdrom in that machine :S and flopy disk too
[19:00] <TheSheep> there are many options
[19:03] <ruif13> hey TheSheep you tell me the file extended_states have all installed sw?
[19:03] <TheSheep> ruif13: not necessarily
[19:04] <ruif13> hum
[19:04] <TheSheep> only the packages for which extended information needs to be saved
[19:05] <TheSheep> you can get a list of all installed software with dpkg -l
[19:05] <Sa[i]nT> How come I can't change my background image. Been trying for a while now.
[19:07] <TheSheep> Sa[i]nT: what's the error?
[19:08] <Sa[i]nT> TheSheep, I don't have the desktop option in my settings. I'm guessing whichever one makes it to where I can change my desktop image. Is this something I did'nt download or something?
[19:08] <TheSheep> Sa[i]nT: no, it should be in the default xubuntu installation
[19:08] <TheSheep> Sa[i]nT: xfdsektop4
[19:09] <Sa[i]nT> TheSheep, xfdesktop4 is already the newest version. Hmmm
[19:10] <TheSheep> try xfce4-mcs-plugins and xfce4-mcs-plugins-extra
[19:12] <Sa[i]nT> TheSheep, They are the newest version as well.
[19:12] <Sa[i]nT> TheSheep, Is there some other way to invoke the desktop settings?
[19:12] <TheSheep> and you don't have 'desktop' entry in the settings manager?
[19:12] <Sa[i]nT> TheSheep, Exactly.
[19:14] <TheSheep> xfce-setting-show backdrop
[19:15] <Sa[i]nT> TheSheep, No such plugin
[19:16] <TheSheep> let me check something
[19:16] <TheSheep> dpkg -S /usr/lib/xfce4/mcs-plugins/backdrop_settings.so
[19:16] <TheSheep> xfdesktop4: /usr/lib/xfce4/mcs-plugins/backdrop_settings.so
[19:17] <TheSheep> Sa[i]nT: reinstall xfdesktop4
[19:17] <Sa[i]nT> TheSheep, ok, trying.
[19:19] <Sa[i]nT> TheSheep, Still no desktop option. GAHH
[19:19] <TheSheep> Sa[i]nT: do you have that file?
[19:19] <TheSheep> Sa[i]nT: is this xubuntu?
[19:19] <Sa[i]nT> TheSheep, I have everything. I've been trying to get this to work forever.
[19:20] <Sa[i]nT> TheSheep, xfce, yeah.
[19:20] <Sa[i]nT> brb
[19:20] <TheSheep> Sa[i]nT: I'm not asking about xfce, I'm asking about the ditribution
[19:48] <jals> sound converter doesn't seem to be ripping at the proper bitrate
[22:23] <Genelyk> why xubuntu 8.10 beta, have  pidgin  and xchatirc ??
[22:25] <zoredache> why?  why not?
[22:26] <Genelyk> xubuntu is  for  machine low power
[22:28] <zoredache> so which do you have objections with?  I would be happen if both where dropped...
[22:41] <Genelyk> uhmm