[08:32] <mvo> hey seb128!
[08:33] <seb128> hello mvo
[08:33] <seb128> mvo: how are you?
[08:36] <mvo> good, thanks. I have fine tea here, what more could I want :) ?
[08:37] <seb128> ;-)
[08:40] <seb128> mvo: could you look to the new comment on bug #273414?
[08:40] <mvo> sure
[08:42] <seb128> thanks
[08:54] <huats> morning everyone
[08:54] <didrocks> morning
[08:54] <didrocks> seb128: you ping me yesterday?
[08:54] <seb128> lut didrocks huats
[08:55] <seb128> didrocks: yes, I'm wondering why you based you swfdec0.8 update on the 0.6 version rather 0.7 which was the "almost 0.8 version"
[08:55] <huats> hey seb128
[08:56] <didrocks> seb128: it's an error, simply, I was looking for swfdec in package.ubuntu.com and didn't see this version
[08:56] <didrocks> I will correct it now
[08:56] <seb128> didrocks: ok, maybe you could rebase on 0.7 so we don't loose changes makes this cycle
[08:56] <seb128> thanks
[08:57] <didrocks> and for the package to against susbribe the bug, I use swdec0.7?
[08:57] <seb128> didrocks: no, just use the bug you have now
[08:57] <didrocks> ok, and was it correct to open it against an older package (as the revision number is in the package name)
[08:57] <didrocks> ?
[08:58] <seb128> didrocks: no real opinion on that, opening on ubuntu or the old name is working
[08:59] <didrocks> ok :)
[08:59] <didrocks> is it ok to correct it for tomorrow evening?
[08:59] <didrocks> (not at home this evening)
[09:01] <seb128> didrocks: yes, but debian newed some packages recently so there is a chance that we get 0.8 sync on debian before ;-)
[09:01] <didrocks> that will not be so bad (appart from my package counting) :-)
[09:02] <seb128> don't worry about the package count ;-)
[09:02] <didrocks> I am not ^^
[09:07] <huats> seb128: don't listen to him... he keeps telling me his packaging rank :)
[09:09] <didrocks> huats: yes, I use a RSS field to link it towards huats' page ;)
[09:09] <huats> :)
[09:10] <didrocks> I really think everyone were sick when we decided to elect YOU as a president ^^
[09:10] <huats> :)
[09:11] <huats> I'll remember that didrocks ;)
[09:11] <didrocks> huats: hehe :)
[09:23] <huats> seb128:  regarding the bakery/glom update. I'll contact murrayc to know a bit more about it... since in the glom sources they require bakery2.6 and I cannot find anything higher than 2.5...
[09:23] <seb128> huats: ok
[09:23] <seb128> huats: did you get any reply yet?
[09:24] <huats> no... I have notice that the other day... but I recheck this morning... so I am sending him an email right now...
[09:26] <seb128> ok
[09:36] <glatzor_> mvo, morning
[09:37] <mvo> hey glatzor_!
[09:37] <glatzor_> mvo, I created a patch to make use of update-alternatives for gnome-codec-install, see #280633
[09:38] <seb128> bah, alternatives
[09:39]  * mvo ponders
[09:41] <mvo> glatzor: thanks - I don't like alternatives, but I like diverts even less :) you want to be able to remove g-a-i right? otherwise it might be sufficient to have a check in the g-a-i codec install
[09:43] <glatzor> mvo, currently packagekit depends on gnome-app-install :/
[09:43] <glatzor> mvo, the update-app-data script is required for the desktop files processing
[09:43] <glatzor> mvo, what kind of check do you mean?
[09:44] <mvo> glatzor: oh, I see. we could move the script out into app-install-data-ubuntu, but that is not ideal either I guess
[09:47] <glatzor> mvo, the problem is that it requires the CoreMenu class from gai
[09:48]  * mvo nods
[09:48] <mvo> so we need another split :) python-g-a-i and g-a-i
[09:48] <glatzor> mvo, so basically we would have to ship update-app-install , AppInstall.update AppInstall.Core and AppInstal.Util in a separate package
[09:49] <glatzor> mvo, I would suggest app-install-core since it is no very usable
[09:49] <glatzor> as a python module
[09:50] <mvo> right
[09:50] <glatzor> I will open a bug and append the pathc
[09:51] <mvo> glatzor: ok, but I will not apply it for intrepid (the split) because we are in deep freeze
[09:52] <glatzor> mvo, that is ok
[09:52] <mvo> glatzor: the update-alternative should be fine I think (I just glanced over it though)
[09:52] <mvo> glatzor: thanks!
[09:52] <glatzor> mvo, thanks
[10:31] <huats> seb128: I had an answer from murray
[10:31] <seb128> huats: likely saying that's the debian package being outdated?
[10:32] <huats> so it is a new ABI/API which can be installed in parallel with the actual one
[10:32] <huats> he didn't mention that :)
[10:32] <seb128> right, that was expected
[10:32] <huats> yep
[10:32] <seb128> that's just (debian?) ubuntu not having the new version yet
[10:32] <seb128> so you know what you have to do now ;-)
[10:32] <huats> :)
[10:32] <huats> yep
[10:32] <huats> I'll do that
[10:33] <huats> but it will be for jaunty I think..
[10:33] <huats> because of the deep freeze...
[10:33] <huats> but I am preparing it
[10:36] <seb128> huats: there is no such freeze yet
[10:36] <huats> ok
[10:36] <huats> seb128: so I am working on it right now...
[10:38] <seb128> huats: good ;-)
[10:39] <huats> :)
[13:02] <crevette> seb128: tada !! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-user-share/+bug/280715
[13:02] <crevette> my request is not missing something
[13:02] <crevette> ?
[13:03] <seb128> crevette: "    - Add libnotify1 to Depends" that looks wrong, the shlibs should list libraries automatically
[13:04] <seb128> crevette: otherwise the bug looks correct
[13:04] <crevette> ah okay
[13:09] <crevette> bug updated
[13:09] <crevette> thnaks for you rhelp
[13:29] <pitti> Keybuk: FYI, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2008-10-09
[14:27] <mvo> no mpt ?
[15:31] <didrocks> seb128: I can update tomorrow evening gimp to 2.6.1. It is a bugfixes release (http://developer.gimp.org/NEWS-2.6) (thx to kagou) :)
[15:32] <didrocks> or maybe, do we prefer to wait for debian and ask a sync ?
[15:32] <seb128> didrocks: I'm rather on waiting on debian to do it, they have been quick on 2.6.0 and upstream has no tar.gz so we would have different tarball if we were doing the uipdate before debian
[15:33] <didrocks> ok, yes, no need to create a new tar.gz in the archive which will differs from debian one :)
[15:48] <huats> seb128: bug 280776
[15:48] <seb128> huats: looking
[15:48] <huats> sure
[15:49] <huats> Keybuk: Hi
[15:50] <huats> Keybuk: do you remember you point the fact that I have explicitly put the maintenerfield update in the changelog
[15:50] <huats> ?
[15:51] <Keybuk> yes
[15:51] <huats> I think I have find one of the cause of this pitfall : the fact that the update-maintener script does it...
[15:51] <huats> :)
[15:51] <Keybuk> yes, we know
[15:51] <Keybuk> there's a bug about that
[15:51] <huats> Keybuk: oh I have just noticed that right now..
[15:51] <huats> :)
[15:51] <huats> I haven't looked at the related bugs...
[15:51] <huats> that was the next step :)
[15:52] <huats> so thanks :)
[15:53] <seb128> huats: it stopping doing so some months ago in intrepid no?
[15:53] <seb128> stopped rather
[15:54] <huats> seb128: may be...
[15:54] <seb128> huats: I think pitti changed that in july during the distro sprint
[15:54] <huats> but I still have an hardy for production...
[15:54] <huats> ok
[15:54] <huats> I'll have a look ...
[15:54] <seb128> huats: you are saying that you don't test updates? ;-)
[15:54] <huats> sure I test updates
[15:54] <huats> on my vm
[15:54] <huats> :)
[15:55] <seb128> ah ;-)
[15:55] <huats> but I don't package on intrepid I have to admit :)
[15:55] <huats> (I plaid guilty)
[15:55] <huats> :)
[15:55] <huats> i will soon upgrade...
[15:55] <seb128> that's alright, maybe the change should be backported, you can probably install the intrepid version on hardy easily
[15:56] <huats> sure... I'll have a look
[15:57] <huats> seb128: sorry for the 'confirmed' and wishlist... :(
[15:57] <huats> (on the libxml++ bug)
[15:59] <seb128> huats: oh, no need to be sorry, I just added the comment to show that I was looking at it
[16:01] <huats> I know
[16:01] <huats> but I should have put that already...
[16:10] <mvo> seb128: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mvo/tmp/fusa-foo.diff is the proposed fusa debdiff - needs to deal with the case were the fusa applet is missing entirely, not sure how much harder this will be
[16:10] <mvo> no tedg?
[16:11] <mvo> review of the strings would be nice too
[16:11] <mvo> (POTFILE.in change needs to go into a patch)
[16:17] <mvo> seb128: can I put gnome-panel into bzr now ;) ?
[16:17] <mvo> (well I did already locally ...)
[16:22] <seb128> mvo: you should add a patch in the debian directory to change the POTFILES.in and not modify the source directly, otherwise the changes look fine from a quick glance
[16:22] <seb128> mvo: I'm not sure you need to log out, gconf is supposed to pick dynamically changes, but that might not work correctly
[16:24] <ember_> seb128: scrollkeeper dep on a package is gotta be replaced by rarian-compat right?
[16:25] <seb128> ember: what?
[16:26] <ember> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rarian/+bug/276878
[16:28] <seb128> right, it'll makes easier to have it better ranked on upgrade
[16:28] <seb128> but don't open bugs or send changes for that
[16:28] <seb128> we will do it when doing normal uploads
[16:29] <ember> yes i was looking at tomboy upgrade and saw that bug on desktop-meeting
[16:29] <mvo> seb128: yeah, I was too lazy for this at first
[16:30] <mvo> seb128: I tested it, it does not change the position of the fusa one dynamically
[16:30] <seb128> mvo: ok
[16:47] <huats> seb128: I think my email to murray has been taken seriously : he has just released a new version of glom and a new of bakery :)
[17:01] <seb128> hey mpt
[17:01] <mpt> hi seb128
[17:02] <seb128> mpt: we talked about enable log by default in pidgin some time ago, I'm doing the change now, what option would you change? enable log for messages and discussions looks correct?
[17:03] <mpt> seb128, yep, both of them
[17:04] <seb128> mpt: ok, good, thanks
[20:17] <norsetto> doh, gimp 2.6.1 is out already
[23:13] <lool> glatzor: Poor you
[23:13] <lool> glatzor: Let the people who think it should be different fight it upstream
[23:13] <lool> You should't receive all the complaints when yuo did all the deb/ubuntu integration work  :-(
[23:14] <glatzor> lool, oh, I am aware of the problems and also had to struggle with them. thanks for stepping in
[23:15] <glatzor> see you!
[23:15] <lool> sleep tight