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uvirtbot`New bug: #280493 in gvfs (main) "connecting to samba share - appears to mount, icon appears on desktop, then disappears and redirected to home folder. (dup-of: 264943)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28049302:02
[Solars]i feel like a dumbdumb ic an't remember where the file to edit crontab is... locate crontab didn't work02:26
[Solars]well it worked but none of the files has the item i need to edit02:26
hads[Solars]: crontab -e02:35
[Solars]hads i remember directly editing a file02:37
hadsYou mean the system crontab? /etc/crontab02:37
[Solars]yea02:38
hadsTypically you'd put a script in /etc/cron.* though02:38
hadsIf you want it to run as root that is.02:38
[Solars]its not in /etc/crontab02:38
hadsOK02:38
[Solars]it was a script that i made run every 15 mins02:39
[Solars]wanted to change it to every 30 or 45 mins02:40
[Solars]can't seem to find it now02:40
[Solars]wonder if there is a gnome tool for such things02:41
stainerdo you have webmin installed?02:41
stainerwebmin can do crontab02:41
[Solars]webmin = html admin?02:41
stainerand did you get dhcpd going?02:41
hads!webmin02:41
[Solars]yea dhcp working great02:41
ubottuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.02:41
stainerbah02:42
stainerwebmin runs just fine on mah box02:42
stainer!pansies02:42
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about pansies02:42
[Solars]stainer can't remember where i edit the file for the script02:42
[Solars]its ran as root i know that much02:42
[Solars]atleast thats what the logs say02:43
staineryou have root enabled? and when you su, crontab -e doesn't work?02:43
hadsOh good, webmin and enabling root.02:43
stainersweet huh?02:44
[Solars]stainer sudo crontrab -l shows the file02:44
[Solars]err the entry02:44
[Solars]thanks stainer02:44
[Solars]owe you another candy bar :p02:44
stainerhads: I running a box when you were still going at your boob02:44
staineryou got it?02:45
[Solars]yepp02:45
stainerk02:45
[Solars]just have to restart crontab right?02:45
* hads leaves the experts to it02:45
[Solars]nvm02:45
stainerI use jstar as my editor, but hads prolly thinks it is unsecure and will cause a crash or something02:45
stainerI am not elite enough to use vi02:46
* [Solars] uses vi :P02:46
[Solars]atleast try to use vi02:46
[Solars]second to that i use nano when i get frustrated02:46
stainerjstar is cool... it is like the old wordstar02:47
[Solars]there was an editor that i loved back in my debian haydays02:47
[Solars]can't remember it but i think nano replaced it02:47
* [Solars] wonders what other tools gnome has for managing a system02:49
stainerjstar is part of the jed or joe package... I cant remember which. There are a ton of them in the packages.02:49
stainerI like that denyhosts package... I got it updating from a server. I haven't had a chinese hacker hit my box all week.02:50
[Solars]i wonder if it was vim... nay thats not it02:53
stainerpico?02:54
[Solars]might be pico... sounds very familiar02:54
staineryou cna still get it02:54
[Solars]no need for it anymore02:54
stainergotcha02:54
[Solars]erm there is a computertemp gnome applet... wonder what that looks likle02:55
stainerheh02:55
stainerso are you using the server software with desktop installed?02:55
[Solars]yea02:55
[Solars]mainly cuase its easier for the wife to do stuff on there02:56
[Solars]ohh gnome-mud!02:57
stainerI got mine in a closet. 1U that my wife got me for our 20th anniversary02:57
[Solars]kewl beans02:57
[Solars]I want to get one or two UPnP devices for the house02:58
[Solars]and do some streaming02:58
stainerI am trying my hand at setting up postfix/imap/squirrelmail I have retiredand.boldlygoingnowhere.org sending and receiving email. I am setting my parents up with email accounts on that one.03:00
[Solars]heh03:01
[Solars]haven't realyl tried hosting my own domain and such yet either.. .would love to03:01
stainerI am using dyndns.com, works great with a dynamic dsl account03:02
[Solars]how much?03:03
stainerfree03:03
[Solars]still have to pay for a name?03:03
stainerthe have lots to choose from... they have names like boldlygoingnowhere.org and you can add something before it.03:04
stainercheck "host services"03:05
[Solars]erm don't like there free hostnames :p03:05
[Solars]err domains03:05
stainerthey have some plain ones... but you can get them to one that you register for $40 or so a year and that includes the registering03:06
[Solars]thats not too bad03:06
staineryeah03:07
[Solars]wonder if i get the domain, if i would bog down my residental line03:09
staineryou have dsl?03:09
[Solars]yea03:09
[Solars]err03:09
[Solars]no03:09
[Solars]cable atm03:09
stainerunless you are hosting mail for 25000 or something, I wouldnt worry about it03:10
[Solars]wouldn't be mail hosting that i be worried about :p03:10
stainerunless you where hosting something else, I wouldn't worry about it.03:12
[Solars]:)03:13
stainerI ran a counter strike server, forums, and all the stats as webpages on old box, with 1.5 dsl at the time.03:14
[Solars]erm i think i have some python scripts hanging03:14
staineryou have enough bandwidth03:14
[Solars]erm whats the cmd for showing processes?03:15
stainertop03:15
[Solars]erm that doesn't show all03:15
[Solars]wanted to grep :p03:15
stainerps03:15
stainerps -aux03:16
stainerman ps03:16
[Solars]heh -aux wrong OS lol03:16
stainerWarning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html03:16
stainerI am from NC, everything is hard for me03:17
[Solars]erm 5 python processes but dunno which one is hanging03:17
[Solars]stainer where you the one that was helping me with my bash script?03:21
[Solars]i need to add something to it if that was you03:21
[Solars]read a variable from a file /some/dir/*.pid then after it removes files, kill -9 pid03:21
stainernot me03:22
[Solars]getting tired of python hanging up :p03:22
staineryou can use top to figure out which one is broke03:22
[Solars]yea but i constantly get them03:22
Redixe_homegroupadd developers   usermod -g developers steven     groupmod -g 1013 developers       ... is that how I would add a new group, add my user to it, and then set the gid of the group?03:22
stainertop press F the x and use <> to sort03:23
[Solars]so my 'program' does nothing while those files are hanging till python times out03:23
[Solars]adduser <user> <group> <=- thats how i thought you added users to a group03:25
[Solars]could also addgroup <groupA> <groupB>03:25
Redixe_homewell adduser is adding the user and then adding that user to that group ... I think ... ran it and it says user steven exists03:26
[Solars]your right03:26
[Solars]erm03:26
* [Solars] mans adduser03:26
[Solars]adduser, addgroup - add a user or group to the system03:27
[Solars]my bad :P03:27
Redixe_homethe ways I listed seems to have worked .. rebooted the machine but id steven doesn't show that I'm part of group developers so I re added myself and the gid is set right this time03:27
[Solars]useradd <user> <group>03:27
[Solars]got them mixed :P03:27
[Solars]thats kewl03:27
[Solars]more then one way to skin a cat03:28
stainerRedixe: http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za/courses/build/sys-admin/ch05.html03:29
stainerits in english03:29
Redixe_homestainer, thanks03:29
stainerI would tell you to try webmin, you can do all that in webmin, but evidently it will cause you to go sterile and become blind.03:30
[Solars]stainer is it a bad idea to add a user to www-data ?03:30
[Solars]group03:30
[Solars]but but but ubottu says its borked!03:30
[Solars]!webmin03:30
ubottuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.03:30
[Solars]:)03:31
stainerI dunno... I wouldn't, I would enable the thing so they can do public_html in their home dir.03:31
[Solars]its not that03:31
[Solars]the script moves the files from /dir/a to /dir/b and keeps the group tag03:31
[Solars]so i was wondering if i should add the user(s) to that group or change the group id all together for those moved files03:32
[Solars]if that makes sense03:32
staineryou can link a dir to www-data that belongs to someone else03:33
[Solars]the dest. dir is a smb dir03:33
[Solars]so my entire network has access to it03:33
[Solars]program a downloads needed stuff.... crontab script moves completed stuff ...03:34
staineryou can limit access with .htaccess03:34
stainereven password it03:34
stainerhttp://patterson.kicks-ass.net/~stainer/03:34
[Solars]don't want to limit access03:34
[Solars]just to make it so i don't have to sudo every time i want to move or rename a file ;p;03:35
[Solars]smb users don't have that problem03:35
[Solars]its just doing it locally it has the problem03:35
stainergoto /var/www/ then ln -lf /path/to/file /nameofdiryouwant03:35
[Solars]what does that do?03:36
stainerthen hostname/dir in browser03:36
stainerthat make a symbolic link in your www dir03:36
[Solars]nay its not a html dir03:36
[Solars]don't want to html share it03:36
stainerah03:36
stainersorry, I misunderstood03:37
[Solars]a web-app is downloading stuff via a apache/php interface to /dir/it/wants03:37
[Solars]i then take the files (via a crontab) from /dir/it/wants and move them to /dir/i/want03:37
[Solars]./dir/i/want is a smb03:38
[Solars]problem is me managing the files on the local machine requires me to sudo03:38
[Solars]cuase i am not part of that user group03:38
[Solars]-rw-r--r-- 1 www-data www-data 183476236 2008-10-08 20:06 Star03:39
stainerhave the crontab run a chown or whatever03:39
stainerafter it moves the files03:39
Redixe_homeWould anyone of you happen to bind9 guru's? :)03:39
stainernot me, sorry... I can try to find a howto for ya03:39
[Solars]stainer yea i need to adjust the script to do that, so two things to do with that script03:39
Redixe_homestainer, I found a guide and followed it (actually followed like 3) but still not working03:40
[Solars]1) kill pid's 2) chmod moved files03:40
[Solars]how do you lookup a domains infomation?03:43
[Solars]like who owns it and such03:43
stainerinstead of calling the script run * * * * /bin/mv -R /dir/a /dir/b then * * * * /bin/chown (however chown works)03:43
stainerwhois at command line03:44
stainerwhois google.com03:44
[Solars]heh the script is a bit more complex then that stainer03:44
stainerk03:44
stainerI suck at bash03:44
stainerdig 'domain name' gives some info too03:44
[Solars]wow i want an old domain name that got revoked03:45
[Solars]wonder why it was revoked03:46
stainernon payment?03:46
[Solars]no idea03:47
[Solars]i should contact them03:47
[Solars]its a server name i used to play on when i first started playing with linux03:47
stainerRedixe: Sorry, not very good with bind... I would just follow the directions on howtoforge03:50
stainerand you already have that kinda info03:50
[Solars]hopefully, i can get that domain name un-revoked03:56
stainerok, its my bed time. night :)03:59
unix_infidelanyone know of a comprehensive guide to getting X + *box running on ubuntu server (preferably a virtualbox geared tutorial)05:05
unix_infidel115 people and no joy...?05:08
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unix_infidelanyone on my earlier question?06:16
unix_infideltrying to get a linux guest with NAT communicating with a windows host.06:27
krautmoin10:08
lionelHi. Does somedoby already encounter a problem with Outlook clients (yes, I know sorry...) with postfix 2.5 with SSL port ? It works great with Thunderbird and with Outlook on port 25, but trying on SSL port leads me to a non understandable "client host rejected: Access denied" in logs :(10:40
lionel(I said postfix 2.5 because the same Outlook works with a postfix 2.2 on a Dapper server)10:41
ScottKlionel: What version of Outlook.12:56
ScottKlionel: Which port do you consider the 'ssl' port?12:57
lionelScottK: I found my problem (sorry for not answering myself)12:57
lionelit's a Outlook 200312:57
lionelIn fact, in hardy, the following option was added to smtps (or submission) :  -o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject12:58
lioneland even when I ask for smtp-auth on my outlook client, it does send authentication12:58
lioneland I'm rejected :)12:59
lionelI'm afraid it's a pure Outlook problem :(12:59
uvirtbot`New bug: #280712 in samba (main) "Accessing printing properties for some drivers causes excessive load on CPU" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28071213:04
ivoksfwiw i've tested drbd, gfs2 and rhcs in intrepid and everything works ok13:07
ivokszul: good morning :)13:07
zulhi ivoks13:12
zuli uploaded drbd8 by the way13:12
ivoksi know13:13
ivoksi've tested it already13:13
zulgoody ;)13:13
ivoksit's missing links for runlevels13:13
zulgrrr...13:13
ivoksthat's easy to fix... don't worry13:13
zulwell send me a patch then :)13:13
ivokssure will13:14
ivokssorry, i didn't notice that problem :(13:14
zulits ok13:14
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ghalebhello, a bug in intrepid! I have installed a fresh version of interpid, then installed  freeradius-2 , but it can't find /etc/freeradius/modules, no such file or directory13:25
ivoksreport the bug on launchpad13:30
ghalebivoks: I want to be sure first13:31
ScottKghaleb: See Bug #27710313:31
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 277103 in freeradius "[intrepid] freeradius modules are missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27710313:31
ghalebScottK: thanks13:31
scuserhi all, does anyone know what should I install to run the command lsvcgssd, or is there any alternative command ?14:01
ivoksscuser: you know what's that for?14:11
zulghaleb: just fixed in the latest upload14:17
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ghalebzul: in freeradius2.1.0  ?14:18
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zulghaleb: yeah I just uploaded the fix14:18
ghalebzul: at launchpad ?14:19
zulghaleb: yeah give it a couple of hours to propogate14:19
ghalebzul: oh thank you very much .. and thanks for your efforts14:20
zulnp14:20
tomshsome have try to do a vsftpd server with virtual user and mysql integration14:21
tomshvirtual home dir auto creation at first login is possible?14:21
ghalebzul: the comment has been update14:22
ghalebzul: how to get your fix ?14:22
zulghaleb: wait basically14:23
ghalebzul: does this build include eap-tls, eap-peap ?14:33
zulghaleb: I dont think so since you need to have openssl enabled with it which we cant ship14:36
ghalebzul: then the same shit happens .. download source and rebuild14:37
ghalebwhat about libfreeradius2 ?14:38
zulghaleb: yep14:38
zulwhat about it?14:38
ghalebit's supposed to has libfreeradius-eap14:38
zulits disabled probably because there is no openssl support as I stated before14:39
ghalebI see14:40
ghalebthanks14:40
zulI would like to ship it but we cant14:40
ghalebyeah .. it's really important14:40
ghalebeverybody ask about it14:40
zulI know but there is nothing we can do about it because of the license14:41
ghalebyeah .. I see14:42
CrummyGummyHi all, I'm trying to install tftpd in Hardy. I read somewhere that ipv6 needs to be disabled. Is this true. I added to the blacklist file. Do I need to reboot after this?14:44
CrummyGummyoops14:45
CrummyGummyAny other ideas? I get the following output in syslog.14:56
CrummyGummytftpd: serving file from /srv/tftp/14:56
CrummyGummytftpd: read: Connection refused14:56
mok0How did my postgres server end up listening to port 5433 instead of 5432?? I never touched postgresql.conf15:32
mok0Took forever to find that snag15:33
shoot^hey guys. My wireless isn't working, so I'd like to run the networking wizard which ran during install/setup. How can I do this?16:46
uvirtbot`New bug: #280814 in samba (main) "Correct man page for uid and gid" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28081417:01
nxvlsommer: happy pre-birthday! (better to say it now, because tomorrow you might be drunk, right?)17:44
sommernxvl: heh possibly... thanks man18:02
nxvl\o/18:02
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tafsenHow can I start programs at startup if I don't have a GUI?19:48
jpughtafsen: add a script to /etc/init.d and use update-rc.d to manage how it starts19:58
jpughtafsen: what is the app19:58
tafsenrtorrent20:02
tafsenjpugh: But I'll guess I'll be adding more progs later on20:02
jpugha lot of apps will have init scripts...not sure if rtorrent does - doubt it20:13
tafsen#!/bin/bash20:13
tafsenrtorrent20:14
tafsenwould that do it?20:14
tafsenjpugh: Btw, what parameters do I use with update-rc.d ?20:15
jpughyour script would work and you need update-rc.d <script> defaults to simply run it20:21
jpughman update-rc.d gives you detail20:21
jpughmake sure your script is executable20:22
tafsenjpugh: Isn't it a bad idea to run programs like rtorrent as root?20:36
hadsThat's not something you'd want to rn as root.20:36
hadsYOu can start them as your user from cron with @reboot20:37
jpughagreed - never said it was a good idea20:39
jpughyou could sudo -u <user> from your script as well20:39
tafsenhads: That sounds like a good idea :)20:41
hadstafsen: A nifty way to start things as boot is to start them with `screen -d -m -S name_here /path/to/command` from cron20:43
hadsTHen when you want to conect to them you can use `screen -r name_here`20:43
Koonmathiaz: could you have a look at bug 260687 and let me know if that sounds like a reasonable fix, I can work on it tomorrow20:50
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 260687 in samba "Purging samba breaks login (pam_smbpass.so segfaults)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26068720:50
jpughhads: that is pretty nifty20:54
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mathiazKoon: I'll have a look at it later today21:04
Koonmathiaz: great !21:05
RediXeFolder is showing owner is root, group is escrow and group has read write. My user is part of group escrow yet she can't save or create anything inside the folder because permission denied21:05
RediXels21:07
RediXeoops21:07
uvirtbot`New bug: #280982 in cyrus-sasl2 (main) "SEGV in threaded SASL apps" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28098223:12
Redixe_homeIf a folder has the owner "root" and the group "escrow". Both have Read and Write access. If user "steven" is in group escrow, should he be able to edit that folder and the stuff inside or would I also need to have "root" added to the group "escrow"?23:42
stainerhi23:49
[Solars]answer your pms! lol23:50

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