[02:02] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #280493 in gvfs (main) "connecting to samba share - appears to mount, icon appears on desktop, then disappears and redirected to home folder. (dup-of: 264943)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/280493
[02:26] <[Solars]> i feel like a dumbdumb ic an't remember where the file to edit crontab is... locate crontab didn't work
[02:26] <[Solars]> well it worked but none of the files has the item i need to edit
[02:35] <hads> [Solars]: crontab -e
[02:37] <[Solars]> hads i remember directly editing a file
[02:37] <hads> You mean the system crontab? /etc/crontab
[02:38] <[Solars]> yea
[02:38] <hads> Typically you'd put a script in /etc/cron.* though
[02:38] <hads> If you want it to run as root that is.
[02:38] <[Solars]> its not in /etc/crontab
[02:38] <hads> OK
[02:39] <[Solars]> it was a script that i made run every 15 mins
[02:40] <[Solars]> wanted to change it to every 30 or 45 mins
[02:40] <[Solars]> can't seem to find it now
[02:41] <[Solars]> wonder if there is a gnome tool for such things
[02:41] <stainer> do you have webmin installed?
[02:41] <stainer> webmin can do crontab
[02:41] <[Solars]> webmin = html admin?
[02:41] <stainer> and did you get dhcpd going?
[02:41] <hads> !webmin
[02:41] <[Solars]> yea dhcp working great
[02:41] <ubottu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.
[02:42] <stainer> bah
[02:42] <stainer> webmin runs just fine on mah box
[02:42] <stainer> !pansies
[02:42] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pansies
[02:42] <[Solars]> stainer can't remember where i edit the file for the script
[02:42] <[Solars]> its ran as root i know that much
[02:43] <[Solars]> atleast thats what the logs say
[02:43] <stainer> you have root enabled? and when you su, crontab -e doesn't work?
[02:43] <hads> Oh good, webmin and enabling root.
[02:44] <stainer> sweet huh?
[02:44] <[Solars]> stainer sudo crontrab -l shows the file
[02:44] <[Solars]> err the entry
[02:44] <[Solars]> thanks stainer
[02:44] <[Solars]> owe you another candy bar :p
[02:44] <stainer> hads: I running a box when you were still going at your boob
[02:45] <stainer> you got it?
[02:45] <[Solars]> yepp
[02:45] <stainer> k
[02:45] <[Solars]> just have to restart crontab right?
[02:45]  * hads leaves the experts to it
[02:45] <[Solars]> nvm
[02:45] <stainer> I use jstar as my editor, but hads prolly thinks it is unsecure and will cause a crash or something
[02:46] <stainer> I am not elite enough to use vi
[02:46]  * [Solars] uses vi :P
[02:46] <[Solars]> atleast try to use vi
[02:46] <[Solars]> second to that i use nano when i get frustrated
[02:47] <stainer> jstar is cool... it is like the old wordstar
[02:47] <[Solars]> there was an editor that i loved back in my debian haydays
[02:47] <[Solars]> can't remember it but i think nano replaced it
[02:49]  * [Solars] wonders what other tools gnome has for managing a system
[02:49] <stainer> jstar is part of the jed or joe package... I cant remember which. There are a ton of them in the packages.
[02:50] <stainer> I like that denyhosts package... I got it updating from a server. I haven't had a chinese hacker hit my box all week.
[02:53] <[Solars]> i wonder if it was vim... nay thats not it
[02:54] <stainer> pico?
[02:54] <[Solars]> might be pico... sounds very familiar
[02:54] <stainer> you cna still get it
[02:54] <[Solars]> no need for it anymore
[02:54] <stainer> gotcha
[02:55] <[Solars]> erm there is a computertemp gnome applet... wonder what that looks likle
[02:55] <stainer> heh
[02:55] <stainer> so are you using the server software with desktop installed?
[02:55] <[Solars]> yea
[02:56] <[Solars]> mainly cuase its easier for the wife to do stuff on there
[02:57] <[Solars]> ohh gnome-mud!
[02:57] <stainer> I got mine in a closet. 1U that my wife got me for our 20th anniversary
[02:57] <[Solars]> kewl beans
[02:58] <[Solars]> I want to get one or two UPnP devices for the house
[02:58] <[Solars]> and do some streaming
[03:00] <stainer> I am trying my hand at setting up postfix/imap/squirrelmail I have retiredand.boldlygoingnowhere.org sending and receiving email. I am setting my parents up with email accounts on that one.
[03:01] <[Solars]> heh
[03:01] <[Solars]> haven't realyl tried hosting my own domain and such yet either.. .would love to
[03:02] <stainer> I am using dyndns.com, works great with a dynamic dsl account
[03:03] <[Solars]> how much?
[03:03] <stainer> free
[03:03] <[Solars]> still have to pay for a name?
[03:04] <stainer> the have lots to choose from... they have names like boldlygoingnowhere.org and you can add something before it.
[03:05] <stainer> check "host services"
[03:05] <[Solars]> erm don't like there free hostnames :p
[03:05] <[Solars]> err domains
[03:06] <stainer> they have some plain ones... but you can get them to one that you register for $40 or so a year and that includes the registering
[03:06] <[Solars]> thats not too bad
[03:07] <stainer> yeah
[03:09] <[Solars]> wonder if i get the domain, if i would bog down my residental line
[03:09] <stainer> you have dsl?
[03:09] <[Solars]> yea
[03:09] <[Solars]> err
[03:09] <[Solars]> no
[03:09] <[Solars]> cable atm
[03:10] <stainer> unless you are hosting mail for 25000 or something, I wouldnt worry about it
[03:10] <[Solars]> wouldn't be mail hosting that i be worried about :p
[03:12] <stainer> unless you where hosting something else, I wouldn't worry about it.
[03:13] <[Solars]> :)
[03:14] <stainer> I ran a counter strike server, forums, and all the stats as webpages on old box, with 1.5 dsl at the time.
[03:14] <[Solars]> erm i think i have some python scripts hanging
[03:14] <stainer> you have enough bandwidth
[03:15] <[Solars]> erm whats the cmd for showing processes?
[03:15] <stainer> top
[03:15] <[Solars]> erm that doesn't show all
[03:15] <[Solars]> wanted to grep :p
[03:15] <stainer> ps
[03:16] <stainer> ps -aux
[03:16] <stainer> man ps
[03:16] <[Solars]> heh -aux wrong OS lol
[03:16] <stainer> Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html
[03:17] <stainer> I am from NC, everything is hard for me
[03:17] <[Solars]> erm 5 python processes but dunno which one is hanging
[03:21] <[Solars]> stainer where you the one that was helping me with my bash script?
[03:21] <[Solars]> i need to add something to it if that was you
[03:21] <[Solars]> read a variable from a file /some/dir/*.pid then after it removes files, kill -9 pid
[03:22] <stainer> not me
[03:22] <[Solars]> getting tired of python hanging up :p
[03:22] <stainer> you can use top to figure out which one is broke
[03:22] <[Solars]> yea but i constantly get them
[03:22] <Redixe_home> groupadd developers   usermod -g developers steven     groupmod -g 1013 developers       ... is that how I would add a new group, add my user to it, and then set the gid of the group?
[03:23] <stainer> top press F the x and use <> to sort
[03:23] <[Solars]> so my 'program' does nothing while those files are hanging till python times out
[03:25] <[Solars]> adduser <user> <group> <=- thats how i thought you added users to a group
[03:25] <[Solars]> could also addgroup <groupA> <groupB>
[03:26] <Redixe_home> well adduser is adding the user and then adding that user to that group ... I think ... ran it and it says user steven exists
[03:26] <[Solars]> your right
[03:26] <[Solars]> erm
[03:26]  * [Solars] mans adduser
[03:27] <[Solars]> adduser, addgroup - add a user or group to the system
[03:27] <[Solars]> my bad :P
[03:27] <Redixe_home> the ways I listed seems to have worked .. rebooted the machine but id steven doesn't show that I'm part of group developers so I re added myself and the gid is set right this time
[03:27] <[Solars]> useradd <user> <group>
[03:27] <[Solars]> got them mixed :P
[03:27] <[Solars]> thats kewl
[03:28] <[Solars]> more then one way to skin a cat
[03:29] <stainer> Redixe: http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za/courses/build/sys-admin/ch05.html
[03:29] <stainer> its in english
[03:29] <Redixe_home> stainer, thanks
[03:30] <stainer> I would tell you to try webmin, you can do all that in webmin, but evidently it will cause you to go sterile and become blind.
[03:30] <[Solars]> stainer is it a bad idea to add a user to www-data ?
[03:30] <[Solars]> group
[03:30] <[Solars]> but but but ubottu says its borked!
[03:30] <[Solars]> !webmin
[03:30] <ubottu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.
[03:31] <[Solars]> :)
[03:31] <stainer> I dunno... I wouldn't, I would enable the thing so they can do public_html in their home dir.
[03:31] <[Solars]> its not that
[03:31] <[Solars]> the script moves the files from /dir/a to /dir/b and keeps the group tag
[03:32] <[Solars]> so i was wondering if i should add the user(s) to that group or change the group id all together for those moved files
[03:32] <[Solars]> if that makes sense
[03:33] <stainer> you can link a dir to www-data that belongs to someone else
[03:33] <[Solars]> the dest. dir is a smb dir
[03:33] <[Solars]> so my entire network has access to it
[03:34] <[Solars]> program a downloads needed stuff.... crontab script moves completed stuff ...
[03:34] <stainer> you can limit access with .htaccess
[03:34] <stainer> even password it
[03:34] <stainer> http://patterson.kicks-ass.net/~stainer/
[03:34] <[Solars]> don't want to limit access
[03:35] <[Solars]> just to make it so i don't have to sudo every time i want to move or rename a file ;p;
[03:35] <[Solars]> smb users don't have that problem
[03:35] <[Solars]> its just doing it locally it has the problem
[03:35] <stainer> goto /var/www/ then ln -lf /path/to/file /nameofdiryouwant
[03:36] <[Solars]> what does that do?
[03:36] <stainer> then hostname/dir in browser
[03:36] <stainer> that make a symbolic link in your www dir
[03:36] <[Solars]> nay its not a html dir
[03:36] <[Solars]> don't want to html share it
[03:36] <stainer> ah
[03:37] <stainer> sorry, I misunderstood
[03:37] <[Solars]> a web-app is downloading stuff via a apache/php interface to /dir/it/wants
[03:37] <[Solars]> i then take the files (via a crontab) from /dir/it/wants and move them to /dir/i/want
[03:38] <[Solars]> ./dir/i/want is a smb
[03:38] <[Solars]> problem is me managing the files on the local machine requires me to sudo
[03:38] <[Solars]> cuase i am not part of that user group
[03:39] <[Solars]> -rw-r--r-- 1 www-data www-data 183476236 2008-10-08 20:06 Star
[03:39] <stainer> have the crontab run a chown or whatever
[03:39] <stainer> after it moves the files
[03:39] <Redixe_home> Would anyone of you happen to bind9 guru's? :)
[03:39] <stainer> not me, sorry... I can try to find a howto for ya
[03:39] <[Solars]> stainer yea i need to adjust the script to do that, so two things to do with that script
[03:40] <Redixe_home> stainer, I found a guide and followed it (actually followed like 3) but still not working
[03:40] <[Solars]> 1) kill pid's 2) chmod moved files
[03:43] <[Solars]> how do you lookup a domains infomation?
[03:43] <[Solars]> like who owns it and such
[03:43] <stainer> instead of calling the script run * * * * /bin/mv -R /dir/a /dir/b then * * * * /bin/chown (however chown works)
[03:44] <stainer> whois at command line
[03:44] <stainer> whois google.com
[03:44] <[Solars]> heh the script is a bit more complex then that stainer
[03:44] <stainer> k
[03:44] <stainer> I suck at bash
[03:44] <stainer> dig 'domain name' gives some info too
[03:45] <[Solars]> wow i want an old domain name that got revoked
[03:46] <[Solars]> wonder why it was revoked
[03:46] <stainer> non payment?
[03:47] <[Solars]> no idea
[03:47] <[Solars]> i should contact them
[03:47] <[Solars]> its a server name i used to play on when i first started playing with linux
[03:50] <stainer> Redixe: Sorry, not very good with bind... I would just follow the directions on howtoforge
[03:50] <stainer> and you already have that kinda info
[03:56] <[Solars]> hopefully, i can get that domain name un-revoked
[03:59] <stainer> ok, its my bed time. night :)
[05:05] <unix_infidel> anyone know of a comprehensive guide to getting X + *box running on ubuntu server (preferably a virtualbox geared tutorial)
[05:08] <unix_infidel> 115 people and no joy...?
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[06:16] <unix_infidel> anyone on my earlier question?
[06:27] <unix_infidel> trying to get a linux guest with NAT communicating with a windows host.
[10:08] <kraut> moin
[10:40] <lionel> Hi. Does somedoby already encounter a problem with Outlook clients (yes, I know sorry...) with postfix 2.5 with SSL port ? It works great with Thunderbird and with Outlook on port 25, but trying on SSL port leads me to a non understandable "client host rejected: Access denied" in logs :(
[10:41] <lionel> (I said postfix 2.5 because the same Outlook works with a postfix 2.2 on a Dapper server)
[12:56] <ScottK> lionel: What version of Outlook.
[12:57] <ScottK> lionel: Which port do you consider the 'ssl' port?
[12:57] <lionel> ScottK: I found my problem (sorry for not answering myself)
[12:57] <lionel> it's a Outlook 2003
[12:58] <lionel> In fact, in hardy, the following option was added to smtps (or submission) :  -o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject
[12:58] <lionel> and even when I ask for smtp-auth on my outlook client, it does send authentication
[12:59] <lionel> and I'm rejected :)
[12:59] <lionel> I'm afraid it's a pure Outlook problem :(
[13:04] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #280712 in samba (main) "Accessing printing properties for some drivers causes excessive load on CPU" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/280712
[13:07] <ivoks> fwiw i've tested drbd, gfs2 and rhcs in intrepid and everything works ok
[13:07] <ivoks> zul: good morning :)
[13:12] <zul> hi ivoks
[13:12] <zul> i uploaded drbd8 by the way
[13:13] <ivoks> i know
[13:13] <ivoks> i've tested it already
[13:13] <zul> goody ;)
[13:13] <ivoks> it's missing links for runlevels
[13:13] <zul> grrr...
[13:13] <ivoks> that's easy to fix... don't worry
[13:13] <zul> well send me a patch then :)
[13:14] <ivoks> sure will
[13:14] <ivoks> sorry, i didn't notice that problem :(
[13:14] <zul> its ok
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[13:25] <ghaleb> hello, a bug in intrepid! I have installed a fresh version of interpid, then installed  freeradius-2 , but it can't find /etc/freeradius/modules, no such file or directory
[13:30] <ivoks> report the bug on launchpad
[13:31] <ghaleb> ivoks: I want to be sure first
[13:31] <ScottK> ghaleb: See Bug #277103
[13:31] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 277103 in freeradius "[intrepid] freeradius modules are missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277103
[13:31] <ghaleb> ScottK: thanks
[14:01] <scuser> hi all, does anyone know what should I install to run the command lsvcgssd, or is there any alternative command ?
[14:11] <ivoks> scuser: you know what's that for?
[14:17] <zul> ghaleb: just fixed in the latest upload
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[14:18] <ghaleb> zul: in freeradius2.1.0  ?
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[14:18] <zul> ghaleb: yeah I just uploaded the fix
[14:19] <ghaleb> zul: at launchpad ?
[14:19] <zul> ghaleb: yeah give it a couple of hours to propogate
[14:20] <ghaleb> zul: oh thank you very much .. and thanks for your efforts
[14:20] <zul> np
[14:21] <tomsh> some have try to do a vsftpd server with virtual user and mysql integration
[14:21] <tomsh> virtual home dir auto creation at first login is possible?
[14:22] <ghaleb> zul: the comment has been update
[14:22] <ghaleb> zul: how to get your fix ?
[14:23] <zul> ghaleb: wait basically
[14:33] <ghaleb> zul: does this build include eap-tls, eap-peap ?
[14:36] <zul> ghaleb: I dont think so since you need to have openssl enabled with it which we cant ship
[14:37] <ghaleb> zul: then the same shit happens .. download source and rebuild
[14:38] <ghaleb> what about libfreeradius2 ?
[14:38] <zul> ghaleb: yep
[14:38] <zul> what about it?
[14:38] <ghaleb> it's supposed to has libfreeradius-eap
[14:39] <zul> its disabled probably because there is no openssl support as I stated before
[14:40] <ghaleb> I see
[14:40] <ghaleb> thanks
[14:40] <zul> I would like to ship it but we cant
[14:40] <ghaleb> yeah .. it's really important
[14:40] <ghaleb> everybody ask about it
[14:41] <zul> I know but there is nothing we can do about it because of the license
[14:42] <ghaleb> yeah .. I see
[14:44] <CrummyGummy> Hi all, I'm trying to install tftpd in Hardy. I read somewhere that ipv6 needs to be disabled. Is this true. I added to the blacklist file. Do I need to reboot after this?
[14:45] <CrummyGummy> oops
[14:56] <CrummyGummy> Any other ideas? I get the following output in syslog.
[14:56] <CrummyGummy> tftpd: serving file from /srv/tftp/
[14:56] <CrummyGummy> tftpd: read: Connection refused
[15:32] <mok0> How did my postgres server end up listening to port 5433 instead of 5432?? I never touched postgresql.conf
[15:33] <mok0> Took forever to find that snag
[16:46] <shoot^> hey guys. My wireless isn't working, so I'd like to run the networking wizard which ran during install/setup. How can I do this?
[17:01] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #280814 in samba (main) "Correct man page for uid and gid" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/280814
[17:44] <nxvl> sommer: happy pre-birthday! (better to say it now, because tomorrow you might be drunk, right?)
[18:02] <sommer> nxvl: heh possibly... thanks man
[18:02] <nxvl> \o/
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[19:48] <tafsen> How can I start programs at startup if I don't have a GUI?
[19:58] <jpugh> tafsen: add a script to /etc/init.d and use update-rc.d to manage how it starts
[19:58] <jpugh> tafsen: what is the app
[20:02] <tafsen> rtorrent
[20:02] <tafsen> jpugh: But I'll guess I'll be adding more progs later on
[20:13] <jpugh> a lot of apps will have init scripts...not sure if rtorrent does - doubt it
[20:13] <tafsen> #!/bin/bash
[20:14] <tafsen> rtorrent
[20:14] <tafsen> would that do it?
[20:15] <tafsen> jpugh: Btw, what parameters do I use with update-rc.d ?
[20:21] <jpugh> your script would work and you need update-rc.d <script> defaults to simply run it
[20:21] <jpugh> man update-rc.d gives you detail
[20:22] <jpugh> make sure your script is executable
[20:36] <tafsen> jpugh: Isn't it a bad idea to run programs like rtorrent as root?
[20:36] <hads> That's not something you'd want to rn as root.
[20:37] <hads> YOu can start them as your user from cron with @reboot
[20:39] <jpugh> agreed - never said it was a good idea
[20:39] <jpugh> you could sudo -u <user> from your script as well
[20:41] <tafsen> hads: That sounds like a good idea :)
[20:43] <hads> tafsen: A nifty way to start things as boot is to start them with `screen -d -m -S name_here /path/to/command` from cron
[20:43] <hads> THen when you want to conect to them you can use `screen -r name_here`
[20:50] <Koon> mathiaz: could you have a look at bug 260687 and let me know if that sounds like a reasonable fix, I can work on it tomorrow
[20:50] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 260687 in samba "Purging samba breaks login (pam_smbpass.so segfaults)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/260687
[20:54] <jpugh> hads: that is pretty nifty
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[21:04] <mathiaz> Koon: I'll have a look at it later today
[21:05] <Koon> mathiaz: great !
[21:05] <RediXe> Folder is showing owner is root, group is escrow and group has read write. My user is part of group escrow yet she can't save or create anything inside the folder because permission denied
[21:07] <RediXe> ls
[21:07] <RediXe> oops
[23:12] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #280982 in cyrus-sasl2 (main) "SEGV in threaded SASL apps" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/280982
[23:42] <Redixe_home> If a folder has the owner "root" and the group "escrow". Both have Read and Write access. If user "steven" is in group escrow, should he be able to edit that folder and the stuff inside or would I also need to have "root" added to the group "escrow"?
[23:49] <stainer> hi
[23:50] <[Solars]> answer your pms! lol