[00:02]  * SkEmO bbs
[00:12] <joseph> driver: NV             what does that mean?
[00:12] <joseph> using nVidia
[00:15] <joseph> nvidia drivers arnt working
[00:15] <joseph> gs
[00:15] <joseph> 7600gs
[00:17] <joseph> jussi01: hey there are you too busy to help with video drivers?
[00:23] <joseph> what packages do I need for invidia video?
[00:28] <joseph> anyone?
[00:37] <joseph> computer store needs help with kubuntu 8.04 64 bit nvidia drivers
[00:37] <joseph> somebody
[00:37] <adri__> my desktop disapeared
[00:37] <joseph> I cant find any clues in the forums
[00:37] <adri__> everything is black
[00:38] <Under_Wraps> joseph: what's the problem with your drivers?
[00:38] <Under_Wraps> I use Envyng to install mine YMMV
[00:40] <joseph> I get driver: nv
[00:40] <joseph> but it lists my video card
[00:40] <joseph> I thought the video driver was installed, but dont have 3d support
[00:41] <joseph> I use 8.04.1 64bit
[00:41] <joseph> I have to deliver this pc tonight to a customer. I'm 'almost' in panic mode.      lol
[00:42] <joseph> get all that? Under_Wraps
[00:44] <Under_Wraps> I'm an ATI person, I've never used nvidia and Linux
[00:44] <joseph> ahhh, bummer
[00:44] <Under_Wraps> give envyng a go, it performs magic for me :)
[00:45] <Under_Wraps> http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[00:45] <joseph> thanks
[00:45] <Under_Wraps> also http://albertomilone.com/envyngfaq.html#A
[00:46] <joseph> why does envy get a bad wrap?
[00:50] <Under_Wraps> does it?
[01:06] <Under_Wraps> Dr_willis_: I found this grub snippet http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/grub-very-slow-427442/#post2328584
[01:06] <ofv> Hi. My Kubuntu 8.04 lost internet connection. It can connect to other machines in the Lan, though.
[01:07] <Under_Wraps> all my partitions are ext3, I'm considering changing some of them to ext2
[01:07] <DaSkreech> ofv your route got dropped
[01:07] <Under_Wraps> sounds like your router is borken
[01:07] <ofv> using IP addresses doesn't work, so it isn't a DNS issue.
[01:08] <ofv> DaSkreech: tracert to some IP address on the Internet shows the IP address of my gateway as the first hop. isn't this enough?
[01:08] <DaSkreech> ofv: It goes beyond that?
[01:08] <ofv> succesive hops fail.
[01:08] <DaSkreech> what' the output of the command route ?
[01:09] <ofv> DaSkreech:
[01:09] <ofv> Kernel IP routing table
[01:09] <ofv> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[01:09] <ofv> 172.16.2.0      *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 vmnet8
[01:09] <ofv> 192.168.1.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
[01:09] <ofv> 172.16.148.0    *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 vmnet1
[01:09] <ofv> link-local      *               255.255.0.0     U     1000   0        0 eth0
[01:09] <ofv>  
[01:09] <DaSkreech> !paste
[01:10] <ofv> sorry. on ubuntu pastebin now.
[01:11] <ofv> http://paste.ubuntu.com/55830/
[01:14] <ofv> the previous paste was incomplete. it missed the crucial line.
[01:14] <ofv> now at http://paste.ubuntu.com/55835/
[01:22] <nejode> ofv: are you running a virtual machine?
[01:23] <ofv> nejode: no vmware running.
[01:25] <nejode> ofv: have you tried shutting down VMware and restarting your interface?
[01:26] <ofv> nejode: okay, i'll kill all vmnet* processes and restart eth0.
[01:31] <ofv> nejode: it didn't work.
[01:32] <nejode> ofv: can you get a lease from your router?
[01:33] <ofv> i'm not sure what a lease is, but the machine connects to other machines on the network.
[01:33] <ofv> the only difference of this machine with the others (apart from the OS) is that
[01:34] <afeijo> hey, who knows Dropbox sw ?? pretty cool !
[01:34] <nejode> ofv: can nyou get an IP address from your dhcp-router?
[01:34] <ofv> the kubuntu machine has a IP address assigned by the DHCP server (integrated in the router) based on its MAC address.
[01:35] <ofv> nejode: yes, this machine has an ip address and i can see it from other machines on the lan.
[01:36] <nejode> ofv: but you get a fixed ip address from your router (for port forwarding I presume)
[01:37] <ofv> nejode: i like to use fixed ip addressess, that's all. and it gets the ip address that is specified on the rule on the DHCP settings of the router (192.168.1.7 for mac address 00:etc..)
[01:38] <ofv> the only problem is that traffic to the internet doesn't pass the router/gateway
[01:38] <ofv> (for this specific machine, the others work)
[01:38] <ofv> i'm thinking on re-starting the router, just to try.
[01:39] <nejode> ofv: do you have a switch after the router?
[01:39] <nejode> can you ping the router?
[01:40] <ofv> no. it connects direct to the internet (it's a router/adsl modem).
[01:40] <ofv> yes, i can ping the router from the kubuntu machine.
[01:40] <kubuser> Hello People.
[01:40] <armando> hola por favor me pueden birndar la direccion ubuntu
[01:40] <armando> gracias
[01:41] <kubuser> guys how is sound setup on kubuntu. does ARTS control all sounds?
[01:41] <ScorpKing> morning guys. how can i change the file assosiations from konsole? scribus is opening every single text or anything that might be a text file and it is annoying the crap out of me. where can i look? changing it in kcontrol takes ages.
[01:41] <armando> alguna sala de chat de ubuntu
[01:42] <ScorpKing> !es
[01:42] <ofv> armando: http://www.ubuntu.com
[01:43] <thibaud> y'a quelqun
[01:43] <thibaud> ????
[01:43] <nejode> ofv: well man, try restarting the router...everything else seems ok
[01:44] <ofv> nejode: okay. this means I'll go away for some minutes. thanks for the help so far, nejode.
[01:44] <stdin> !fr | thibaud
[01:44] <kubuser> having issues with mplayer. While playing the video, it plays lot of sharp noise. If the window is hidden behind another window, then it plays the sound ok. Also when minimized.
[01:46] <kubuser> same issue in kmplayer. however, in kmplayer while hiding video, no sound plays.
[01:46] <ScorpKing> kubuser: what codecs do you have installed? have you tried playing it with vlc?
[01:46] <ofv`> it's the router!
[01:46] <ScorpKing> kubuser: kmplayer is just a kde frontend for mplayer
[01:47] <kubuser> ScorpKing: hmmmm. ok good to know. mplayer plays sound fine when video is hidden. When kmplayer is used no sound when video is hidden.
[01:47] <ofv`> how can i assign a fixed ip address inside kubuntu itself, as i do for the windows machines.
[01:47] <kubuser> ScorpKing: how to check what codecs are installed.
[01:48] <ScorpKing> open console an run - aptitude search codecs .it will show "i" on the first line if it's installed
[01:48] <kubuser> ScorpKing: also amarok fails to play mp3s saying audio device is already busy. Weird behavior for out of box install. :)
[01:48] <kubuser> ScorpKing: running the command.
[01:49] <ofv`> nervermind. found it on the debian docs :-)
[01:49] <ScorpKing> kubuser: sounds like your arts daemon is on holiday. run - sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart - in konsole and see if it starts working
[01:49] <kubuser> ScorpKing: ok only shows two lines....
[01:49] <kubuser> v   python2.4-cjkcodecs             -
[01:49] <kubuser> v   python2.5-cjkcodecs             -
[01:50] <kubuser> ScorpKing: hmm... mplayer plays mp3s fine in console... :) restart alsa....
[01:51] <ScorpKing> kubuser: please don't paste more than that here ;) .i think you need some extra repo's enabled for the other codecs
[01:51] <ScorpKing> !find w32codecs
[01:51] <ScorpKing> bah..
[01:51] <stdin> !w32codecs
[01:52] <ScorpKing> ah stdin :) , thanks
[01:53] <kubuser> ScorpKing: hmmmm currently, I have all the universe, restricted, multiverse, main checked in the kubuntu software tab in ADept.
[01:53] <ScorpKing> kubuser: look at that link for w32codecs ^
[01:54] <ISS_Student> What is the Channel for Kubuntu KDE4
[01:54] <kubuser> ScorpKing: medibuntu stuff?
[01:54] <ScorpKing> kubuser: yes, you need the medibuntu repo
[01:55] <kubuser> ScorpKing: cool. I'll read the link and see how to add that. :) In Ubuntu it didn't have those issues. But kubuntu does. kind of different from the other one. :) Good to know all the little things.
[01:55] <kubuser> ScorpKing: thanks. :) I'll get to fixing. :)
[01:56] <ScorpKing> kubuser: i use kaffeine or vlc to play stuff. mplayer seems to give problems now and then
[01:58] <kubuser> ScorpKing: interesting. Kaffeine wouldn't even play the video. haven't tried vlc yet. That's a good idea. I'll try that also. Been a mplayer long timer on gentoo. :)
[02:00] <ScorpKing> kubuser: i found that without the w32codecs a lot of files won't play. install it first and then try again. there is also a non-free-codecs package in one of the repos
[02:00] <DaSkreech> libxine1-ffmpeg
[02:00] <kubuser> ScorpKing: ok. can you help me determine which distro I'm running. Hardy Heron or Intrepid Ibex...? where to check.
[02:00] <DaSkreech> lsb_release -a
[02:01] <kubuser> DaSkreech: cool. thanks. :)
[02:01] <kubuser> gutsy....
[02:01] <ScorpKing> ah yes DaSkreech. i missed that one. kubuser, also install libxine1-ffmpeg
[02:02]  * DaSkreech chuckles
[02:02] <kubuser> ScorpKing: so just apt-get libxnil-ffmpeg....?
[02:03] <ScorpKing> sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[02:03]  * ScorpKing slides some coffee to DaSkreech..
[02:04] <DaSkreech> In a Kubuntu Kup?
[02:04] <kubuser> cool. :)
[02:04] <kubuser> in kubuntu MUG
[02:04] <kubuser> KMug
[02:05] <ScorpKing> haha.. KMug sounds good ;)
[02:06] <kubuser> ok still shows the issue. Plays the video fine in kaffeine if the video is covered. Otherwise, it plays the video choppy and plays lot of noise. No audio
[02:06] <kubuser> no audio that is listenable.
[02:06] <ScorpKing> kubuser: that must be annoying
[02:07] <ScorpKing> what file is it?
[02:07] <kubuser> as if with a lot of distortion.
[02:07] <kubuser> .avi files. probably divx.
[02:07] <ScorpKing> kubuser: run - file <moviefilename> - in konsole
[02:08] <DaSkreech> Hmm I had the same issue yesterday
[02:08] <DaSkreech> Kept trying to solve it then I turned off the machine
[02:08] <DaSkreech>  came back later turned it on and I was good
[02:09] <kubuser> ScorpKing: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 384 x 288, 25.00 fps, video: DivX 3 Low-Motion, audio: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (stereo, 44100 Hz)
[02:09] <ScorpKing> hehe.. maybe it just needs a reboot ;)
[02:09] <kubuser> hehe, linux is getting closer and closer to needing reboot after installs. LOL. Hehe. But as long as it work, eh?
[02:09] <ScorpKing> hmm.. that sould play. the only file i had problems with before are the new realaudio movies
[02:10] <kubuser> so a reboot coming right up.
[02:10] <kubuser> don't worry. Avoid realaudio like the plague.
[02:10] <ScorpKing> kubuser: yeah or you can just hunt for the service in /etc/init.d/ that needs to be restarted ;)
[02:10] <DaSkreech> kubuser: You technically would just need to restart X
[02:11] <kubuser> ScorpKing: eventually, it just becomes easier to reboot. So you just fix all the other issues as well.... :)
[02:11] <kubuser> DaSkreech: hehe so just ctrl-alt-bkspace.... :)
[02:11] <DaSkreech> I'm just saying I discovered that it because of a reboot
[02:11] <DaSkreech> kubuser: Or logout
[02:11] <ScorpKing> kubuser: true but you don't learn anything that way
[02:11] <DaSkreech> that's more graceful and would restart X
[02:11] <kubuser> ScorpKing: oh definitely it's nicer to learn about how the system is setup.
[02:12]  * ScorpKing agrees..
[02:12] <kubuser> anyway.... reboot. quick dinner.... will be back later... :)
[02:12] <kubuser> if you guys are not here.... just saying  thanks very much for your help guys.
[02:12] <ScorpKing> righto.. have fun
[02:12] <kubuser> :)
[02:17] <DaSkreech>  /whisper ScorpKing lets empty out the room to freak him out when he comes back
[02:17] <DaSkreech> Umm
[02:17] <DaSkreech> >_>
[02:18] <ScorpKing> haha
[02:18]  * ScorpKing fights with qemu..
[02:18] <DaSkreech> Get up on the 7 count
[02:18] <DaSkreech> if you stay down for the other three qemu will get the belt
[02:18] <mister-tea> it's astanding 8
[02:19] <draik> How do I search for a certain channel?
[02:19] <ScorpKing> draik: /list <channelname>
[02:19] <lovre_> hi all
[02:20] <ScorpKing> hiya lovre_
[02:20] <ScorpKing> long time no see ;)
[02:21] <lovre_> i have gnome, i used kde 3.x before. Now i would like to try KDE4.1... can i install only kde4.1 without any kde applications? I just want to see how it feels. Last time i did this, it installed tons of applications that i dont want...
[02:21] <lovre_> ScorpKing: yea, how are you doing... :)
[02:21] <DaSkreech> lovre_: Bit confused
[02:21] <lovre_> DaSkreech: yes?
[02:21] <DaSkreech> You want to install KDE without any KDE applications
[02:21] <draik> Thanks ScorpKing
[02:21] <ScorpKing> lovre_: been worse. you won't be able to do that
[02:21]  * Dr_willis_ wonders what kde4 withoug any app  would be.. used for...
[02:21] <DaSkreech> So you just want the wallpapers and sounds ?
[02:22] <Dr_willis_> May as well just go look at kde4 screenshots
[02:22] <Dr_willis_> :)
[02:22] <lovre_> DaSkreech: well, lol
[02:22] <ScorpKing> Dr_willis_: entertainment
[02:22] <DaSkreech> Do plasmoids not cont as applications?
[02:22] <DaSkreech> count?
[02:22] <ScorpKing> yeah they do
[02:22] <Dr_willis_> go get a kde4 live cd.. and test it out safely
[02:22] <Dr_willis_> I still find kde4 very myuch a work in progress.. and not real useable..
[02:22] <lovre_> Dr_willis_: thats a good idea...
[02:23] <ScorpKing> i've got kubuntu 8.10 beta in vmware. it's faster than my host system
[02:23] <DaSkreech> lovre_: Grab an intrepid CD to see where KDE is for Users now or a SUSE Cd to see where it is for develoers
[02:23] <lovre_> i started using Gnome few months ago, because kde3x gave me lots of trouble. and in hope that kde4 will be ok, i was thinking of testing...
[02:24] <DaSkreech> lovre_: Ha ha
[02:24] <DaSkreech> No KDE4 will probably be an interesting ride for you
[02:24] <ScorpKing> does anyone know how the make qemu think it has a usb flash drive instead of a hard drive?
[02:24] <DaSkreech> What was KDE3 fighting you on?
[02:25] <draik> What is the correct pronounciation of SUSE? "Susie" or "Zeus"?
[02:25] <DaSkreech> draik: I can spell it
[02:25] <draik> DaSkreech: LOL
[02:25] <DaSkreech> It's easier to walk around with a Placard and hold it up anytime you refer to it
[02:26] <Dr_willis_> try #SUSE
[02:26] <Dr_willis_> :)
[02:26] <lovre_> DaSkreech: applications were going crazy, everything had problems staying in the kicker tray, it floated in small windows, USB memory keys didnt automount, and other stuff....
[02:26] <DaSkreech> Isn't it #opensuse-kde now ?
[02:26] <DaSkreech> 0_o
[02:26] <DaSkreech> Ahhh well
[02:26] <DaSkreech> KDe4 does none of that
[02:26] <draik> I'll ask in both
[02:27] <lovre_> DaSkreech: so you think it has made some progress...
[02:27] <ScorpKing> draik: i also want to know
[02:27] <draik> "sue-sah"
[02:27] <draik> ScorpKing: That's from #SUSE
[02:28] <ScorpKing> hmm.. thanks
[02:28] <ofv`> the system refused to assign a fixed ipv4 address to eth0
[02:28] <lovre_> is Kaffeine replaced with another application in kde4.1? since i had many problems with it....
[02:28] <ofv`> i did exactly what it says on paragraph 10.6.1.1 here:
[02:29] <ofv`> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html
[02:29] <DaSkreech> lovre_: dragonplayer
[02:29] <ScorpKing> ofv`: sounds like you interfaces file is a bit messed up
[02:29] <DaSkreech> You'll probably want kaffiene back
[02:29] <ScorpKing> your*
[02:29] <ofv`> ScorpKing: i checked it several times. it looks good.
[02:29] <ScorpKing> ofv`: cat you pastebin it?
[02:29] <ScorpKing> can* even
[02:29] <draik> I've been wanting to try other OS's just for user experience. I started a bit of a mini-war in ##mac when I asked for the difference from Linux to a Mac. They derailed from my question and got into their arguments.
[02:30] <ofv`> i can't paste it because the machine has no net connection, but i can copy it. give me a minute.
[02:30] <lovre_> is kde 4.1 stable, or do i download kde 4.0?
[02:30] <ScorpKing> draik: i find that funny :)
[02:31] <ScorpKing> draik: the audio and video editing software is better on mac
[02:31] <draik> ScorpKing: Me too. I was being serious with my questions, not trying to instigate. "Yeah, well I think that Mac..." "No, you're wrong. It's best/better to..."
[02:31] <DaSkreech> lovre_: It's stable
[02:31] <Dr_willis_> lovre_,  i dont find any of the kde4's very stable at this time.. its getting better..... but still
[02:31] <Dr_willis_> :)
[02:32] <Dr_willis_> ya learn what 'not to do' with it real fast.. heh
[02:32] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: I find they push X really hard and X sucks
[02:32] <Dr_willis_> accidently added the 'calculator' plasmid widget to the panel.. and that dident work very well
[02:32] <lovre_> ok, thank you DaSkreech, Dr_willis_
[02:32] <ofv`> ScorpKing: interfaces copied into http://paste.ubuntu.com/55852/
[02:32] <ScorpKing> draik: it would be interesting to know what the difference is. i've never used a mac though
[02:33] <DaSkreech> Yeah I spent a lot of fun time adding everything to the panel to see what would break it
[02:33] <Dr_willis_> I got a Mac.. in the closet.
[02:33] <Dr_willis_> :)
[02:33] <DaSkreech>  4.2 should allow us to pop them back and forth so that should be good
[02:33] <Dr_willis_> I still havent figured out how to MOVE panel gizmos
[02:33] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: It's trivial in 4.1
[02:33] <DaSkreech> as long as they stay on the panel
[02:33] <draik> ScorpKing: Well, from what I gathered, it's very similar. Both based on Unix. I don't know when I'll dare to go back and ask another question.
[02:34] <Dr_willis_> well they got it hidden from me then.. :) I dident see a 'move' in the menus, tryed right/left/middle clicking,
[02:34] <lovre_> another question, i tried to connect my pc to a windows laptop pc, with a crossover cable. Seemed to set up everything nicely, but couldnt connect.... I thought this was supposed to be simple...
[02:34] <Dr_willis_> silly clock was stuck in the middle of the panel.
[02:34] <ScorpKing> ofv`: try this http://paste.ubuntu.com/55854/
[02:34] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: the cashew at the end unlocks the panel and you can slide any plasmoid anywhere you want
[02:34] <ScorpKing> draik: maybe i should try ;)
[02:34]  * ScorpKing giggles..
[02:35] <nejode> ofv: add "network 192.168.1.0" and "broadcast 192.168.0.254"
[02:35] <ofv`> ScorpKing: thanks, I'll do it asap.
[02:35] <DaSkreech> lovre_: How do you mean connect?
[02:35] <ofv`> nejode: thanks, i'll try that too.
[02:35] <Dr_willis_> lovre_,  give them both static ip's seeiof they can ping each other.. if so t- they are networked...
[02:35] <lovre_> Dr_willis_: yea, i did that. but couldnt ping them....
[02:35] <ScorpKing> ofv`: you'll have to add what nejode said for it to work
[02:35] <Dr_willis_> then ya got network settings wrong.. or its not a crossover cable..
[02:36] <ofv`> ScorpKing: okay.
[02:36] <Dr_willis_> lovre_,  or set up a dhcp server on one machine. :)
[02:36] <lovre_> Dr_willis_: it is crossover, cuz i used it before... i used this application to setup: nm-applet
[02:36] <nejode> ofv: *broadcast 192.168.1.254
[02:37] <Dr_willis_> thats the normal network manager applet.   some peple have issues with  the network-manager stuff  at times.. but ive not had any problems
[02:37] <ofv`> nejode: ah! I was just going to confirm that! :-)
[02:37] <lovre_> Dr_willis_: ok thank you
[02:37] <nejode> ofv: i goofed up again>> broadcast 192.168.1.255
[02:38] <lovre_> another one of my questions... I connected a camera to the USB, and i wanted to put some images on it. But it insisted that it was read-only, and whatever i did i couldnt change that, even with root. Why is this
[02:38] <ofv`> nejode: hehe. thanks.
[02:38] <DaSkreech> lovre_: Cause it was mounted read only I Would assume
[02:39] <lovre_> DaSkreech: that is possible. But it was automounted... i didnt mount manuallly..
[02:39] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[02:39] <DaSkreech> and I'm thinking the automount mounted it read only
[02:39] <naught101> how can I get back the old mouse theme? oxygen is crap
[02:39] <DaSkreech> THough .. it should mount it as a USB drive
[02:39] <lovre_> DaSkreech: what can i do about it
[02:39] <ofv`> nejode, ScorpKing: it works. thank you, guys.
[02:40] <naught101> in kde3
[02:40] <DaSkreech> lovre_: I dunno that's what happened I'd have to run the mount command and see the options on the mount point
[02:41] <lovre_> DaSkreech: ok, i will deal with that later. Thank you anyway, i downloaded and burned live kubuntu 8.04 with kde4 and going to try it. Be back in 5 minutes lol
[02:41] <DaSkreech> lovre_: ok I'll be here
[02:42] <ofv`> f
[02:43] <ScorpKing> yw ofv`
[02:45] <nejode> ofv: glad to help
[02:46] <ofv`> time to get some sleep. good night, guys.
[02:46] <freaky[t]> how do i set up kubuntu to mount a drive where i have my files in automatically?
[02:47] <naught101> kubuntu-desktop package doesn't exist any more?
[02:47] <DaSkreech> !fstab | freaky[t] Here
[02:47] <Dr_willis_> freaky[t],  edit the fstab file - if its an internal drive
[02:48] <freaky[t]> ok thanks ill try
[02:48] <freaky[t]> is there any documentation on how to do this?
[02:48] <freaky[t]> it's a ntfs drive
[02:48] <Dr_willis_> you want to read up on ntfs-3g
[02:48] <Dr_willis_> !ntfs-3g
[02:48] <freaky[t]> thank you :D
[02:51] <armando> una vez instaldo :   sudo aptitude install unrar-nonfree ya puedo desconprmir mi archivo de rar
[02:51] <armando> o no
[02:51] <mister-tea> !es
[02:55] <ubuntu> hi, im on live cd at the moment
[02:55] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: we guessed :)
[02:56] <lovre___> this is me, sorrz
[02:56] <lovre___> DaSkreech, it seems i didnt download something right....
[02:56]  * DaSkreech raises eyebrow
[02:57] <lovre___> DaSkreech, it is version kde 4.0 and its all as it was 8 months ago, bad and shitty,... i was hoping for kde 4.1.2....
[02:57] <DaSkreech> lovre_ Ahh curses
[02:58] <ubuntu> a
[02:58] <lovre____> disconnected
[02:58] <DaSkreech> lovre____: did you get a daily ?
[02:59] <lovre____> DaSkreech, what you mean
[02:59] <DaSkreech> Where did you get the cd ?
[02:59] <kubuser> Hello People.
[03:00] <freaky[t]> DaSkreech dr_Willis thanks for your help ;D
[03:00] <DaSkreech> kubuser: What about robots?
[03:00] <kubuser> DaSkreech: robots?
[03:00] <kubuser> Hello People.
[03:00] <lovre____> DaSkreech, here: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu
[03:00] <kubuser> 0111011010011000 robots!
[03:00] <DaSkreech> lovre____: Ah no I said to get a daily :)
[03:01] <kubuser> DaSkreech: so still no go after reboot.
[03:01] <lovre____> DaSkreech, can you give me the link please?
[03:02] <DaSkreech> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/
[03:02] <stdin> Chris_Foster: right click the KMenu -> Menu Editor, you can set it from there
[03:02] <DaSkreech> kubuser: So there goes your theory :)
[03:02] <kubuser> DaSkreech: well now, I'm not sure.... Maybe intall Ubuntu...?
[03:02] <Chris_Foster> stdin: ?
[03:03] <DaSkreech> kubuser: Whats the history of the problem ?
[03:03] <stdin> Chris_Foster: to bind a command to a key combo
[03:03] <Chris_Foster> stdin: okay, thanks
[03:03] <kubuser> DaSkreech: my Ubuntu box works fine on divx stuff.
[03:03] <Chris_Foster> stdin: Never would have thought to look there :)
[03:03] <lovre____> DaSkreech, so to download interpid?
[03:04] <lovre____> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/?
[03:04] <DaSkreech> yes
[03:04] <kubuser> DaSkreech: history is that it's a new install. moved gentoo box to kubuntu. just got the wifi working. Now got samba working. copied the media stuff over. installed mplayer.... then video problem.
[03:04] <kubuser> DaSkreech: installing vlc....
[03:04] <DaSkreech> :-)
[03:05] <stdin> Chris_Foster: you can set it from 'System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts -> Command Shortcuts', but the first way is quicker to get to
[03:05] <lovre____> be back....
[03:06] <Chris_Foster> stdin: okay, I think I'll go with the second way because Im using kbfx and I couldn't find it
[03:06] <draik> Is anyone here familiar with BackTrack 3? I want to get into using it, but don't know where to start.
[03:06] <rull> usb o hard disk?
[03:06] <Chris_Foster> draik: could you clarify "no knowing were to start"?
[03:07] <Chris_Foster> draik: bt3 is a tool OS, its used to break security of computers and is equipped with many tools to do so, try learning what the tools do first
[03:07] <draik> Chris_Foster: Not so much. I want to get into security testing and such by starting with my own home network. I want to hack everything and see where my vulnerabilities are so that I can cover my butt.
[03:07] <rull> i have it in a "asus eee pc" and work good
[03:08] <Chris_Foster> draik: I'm just starting to experiment with it myself, and there really is no tutorial on how to hack, because almost every time you hack something it will be different. That's the fun and complication of it
[03:09] <rull> mmm with airscript
[03:09] <rull> one module of back track..
[03:09] <rull> 1= scan victim...
[03:09] <Chris_Foster> draik: A good idea is to start with wireless security, I found that relativelly easy
[03:09] <rull> 2= asociation..
[03:09] <rull> 3=attack
[03:09] <draik> Chris_Foster: I'm all for the fun and complicated. It is by far the best way to learn. I keep a few notebooks next to my desk so that I can take note of what I did, saw, thought and learned.
[03:09] <rull> yes
[03:10] <Chris_Foster> draik: good idea, although I've never found it to do anything but waste my time. :) everyones different
[03:10] <rull> i wrote a mini-guide about testing my network
[03:10] <draik> It's about what happened when I did something different.
[03:12] <rull> iĺl go to bed, in spain is 04:12 a.m ...... zZz
[03:12] <rull> good night all ^^
[03:13] <Chris_Foster> My first hack was I connected to my router by using "tcpdump -n" and copying to router address and entering the settings to view my moms laptops internal IP address then I scanned her computer, got blocked by windows firewall, so I turned it off on her system and scanned again, found a disk sharing exploit and I had managment over her whole system :)
[03:13] <jimmy51_home> hello, i've got a bluetooth headset (normally paired with cellphone) i'd like to pair with my kubuntu box to use as a headset.  how can i do that?
[03:14] <rull> one rapid guide... 1º airodump-ng, 2º aireplay-ng...3ºaircrack-ng... is easy
[03:15] <stdin> jimmy51_home: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothHeadset
[03:15] <jimmy51_home> thanks stdin.... checking
[03:16] <Chris_Foster> rull: I was so confused at first because I bought a wireless adapter that didn't support packet injection, so I couldnt figure out why everyone was doing it in 5 mins and it took my a week :P
[03:17] <rull> Chris_Foster: ouch.. in this situation i will buy a "atheros" adapter ;)
[03:18] <dekkong_2> hehe i have a zyxel AG 220 wireless adapter and it worked out of the box :)
[03:18] <Chris_Foster> rull: yeah, I went out and got a different one. I had just bought it that day, so I could return it. When The dude asked why, I tried to make it sound as confusing as possible without laughing, the look on his face was priceless considering im 14 :D
[03:19] <rull> my level of english is bad, i dont understand very good Chris_Foster, sorry xD
[03:20] <jimmy51_home> std:  do i follow the pulseaudio stuff?
[03:20] <jimmy51_home> (i don't know what that is.... so i fear it's ubuntu specific...)
[03:20] <jimmy51_home> whoops, stdin:  do i follow the pulse audio stuff?
[03:21] <Chris_Foster> rull: It's all good. I took the wireless adapter back and explained it to the guy, and he looked really surprized a 14 year old kid just told him all this complicated stuff
[03:21] <stdin> jimmy51_home: kubuntu does not use pause audio, so no
[03:22] <jimmy51_home> stdin: what's the kubuntu equivalent to this:  pactl load-module module-alsa-sink device=bluetooth
[03:22] <jimmy51_home> and... pactl load-module module-alsa-source device=bluetooth   ?
[03:23] <stdin> jimmy51_home: ignore the pause audio part
[03:24] <rull> Chris_Foster: he he, right , now i understand ;), is true, you re so young for this themes, but.. is good that you learn and read about it ;) remember.. is your network security! haha ;)
[03:24] <jimmy51_home> stdin:  ok.  stdin:  hmmm, it's not doing something right.  ALSA lib pcm_bluetooth.c:460:(bluetooth_hsp_hw_params) BT_SETCONFIGURATION failed : Input/output error(5)
[03:25] <Chris_Foster> rull: :D
[03:25] <Chris_Foster> rull: Well, I'm gonna go watch my tv show, nice talking to you
[03:26] <stdin> jimmy51_home: what command is that from?
[03:26] <jimmy51_home> playing a sample file
[03:26] <rull> Chris_Foster:  he he, me too Chris ;), iĺl go to sleep, because in spain is 04:26 a.m, and tomorrow iĺl go to clas XD
[03:27] <rull> Chris_Foster: see u men ;)
[03:27] <Chris_Foster> rull: Yep :)
[03:27] <stdin> jimmy51_home: try disconnecting/reconnecting the headset
[03:28] <mister-tea> is the headset on discovery mode?
[03:28] <jimmy51_home> yup, light's on solid
[03:29] <jimmy51_home> stdin, mister-tea:  ok, now it's attempting to play, but i don't hear anything
[03:29] <jimmy51_home> ah, ended up with same error
[03:31] <cesbel> hola, como estan todos
[03:32] <mister-tea> muy bien
[03:32] <mister-tea> !es
[03:32] <cesbel> alguno de ustedes me podria ayudar con un problema con kstarupconfig
[03:32] <jimmy51_home> this is a brand new motorola H500
[03:34] <jimmy51_home> does sudo modprobe snd-bt-scod mean anything to you guys?
[03:34] <draik> !es | cesbel
[03:34] <jimmy51_home> is that a module i should use?
[03:36] <cesbel> anybody know how can I do for solving a problem with kstartupconfig
[03:38] <mister-tea> cesbel whats the problem?
[03:39] <armando> ya entendi
[03:39] <cesbel> I write my username and my password, but I cannot enter in any sesion, neither gnome nor kde
[03:40] <cesbel> In the screen appear a message related with kstartupconfig
[03:41] <cesbel> RIght now I am working in gnome failure mode (I don't know if this is the right way of writing)
[03:42] <x_link> Hi!
[03:42] <x_link> Hurmm.
[03:42] <x_link> If I want to start the calculator.
[03:42] <x_link> Shouldn't I just write "calc" in "run command"?
[03:42] <mister-tea> !enter
[03:42] <x_link> It has alwaysed worked befrore.
[03:43] <cesbel> the problem is that I upgrade the system from ubuntu 8.04 to ubuntu 8.10 beta
[03:43] <dstambou> x_link: install speedcrunch, awesome calc :)
[03:43] <dstambou> x_link: and comes up with "calc"
[03:43] <x_link> dstambou: But I already have a calc.
[03:43] <x_link> dstambou: But it's just not working now, always worked before
[03:44] <dstambou> x_link: I've no idea why it won't show. It may use a different name, may need to edit the menu entry
[03:44] <Guest9271> i enable the nvidia drivers from restricted drivers can anyone tell me how to use it
[03:45] <DaSkreech> If lovre comes back someone ping me
[03:45] <x_link> Guest9271: sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-new, then change "nv" to "nvidia" in your xorg.
[03:45] <Guest9271> how to do that
[03:46] <Guest9271> x link i install the compiz but can;t use it untill i solve this prob
[03:46] <x_link> Guest9271: I just told to how?
[03:46] <x_link> sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-new
[03:46] <x_link> Then you have the driver.
[03:46] <Guest9271> yup
[03:47] <x_link> After that you do -> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf  there you change "nv" to "nvidia" and save it. After that you restart X.
[03:49] <x_link> I really don't understand this with my calc.
[03:49] <Guest9271> x link
[03:49] <Guest9271> its already nvidia
[03:49] <x_link> Okey.
[03:49] <x_link> Then what's the problem?
[03:49] <Guest9271>   Identifier     "nVidia Corporation G72M [GeForce Go 7400]"
[03:49] <Guest9271>     Driver         "nvidia"
[03:50] <Guest9271> the prob is that my comiz is not working
[03:50] <x_link> Guest9271: Good, then you're using nVIDIA.
[03:50] <x_link> Guest9271: Have you installed all the right files?
[03:50] <Guest9271> yup
[03:51] <x_link> Okey
[03:51] <Guest9271> when i run this compiz --replace
[03:51] <x_link> Installed fusion-icon?
[03:51] <x_link> sudo aptitude install git-core
[03:52] <Guest9271> when i run this compiz --replace
[03:52] <x_link> Guest9271: When you have done that then you write:
[03:52] <x_link> git-clone git://anongit.opencompositing.org/users/crdlb/fusion-icon && cd fusion-icon && sudo make install
[03:53] <x_link> Guest9271: Listen to what I say.
[03:53] <Guest9271> ok
[03:53] <x_link> I mean, do what I said.
[03:53] <Guest9271> right mate no worries
[03:53] <Guest9271> its downloading
[03:55] <x_link> Guest9271: Okey, tell me when it's done.
[03:55] <Guest9271> ok
[03:55] <x_link> sudo aptitude install git-core
[03:55] <x_link> You do that first and then the other command.
[03:55] <Guest9271> kbefore that command git-clone git://anongit.opencompositing.org/users/crdlb/fusion-icon && cd fusion-icon && sudo make install
[03:56] <x_link> That second command, the long one, it should be ONE line so you know.
[03:56] <jimmy51_home> dang.
[03:56] <Guest9271> yup
[03:56] <x_link> Okey.
[03:56] <jimmy51_home> i just tried 4 different procedures to get a bluetooth headset to work with kubuntu
[03:56] <x_link> Guest9271: Done both commands now?
[03:56] <x_link> jimmy51_home: =/
[03:56] <Guest9271> stull downloading
[03:57] <jimmy51_home> the end result is.... bluetooth doesn't work and now amarok crashes when i click on an mp3
[03:57] <x_link> Guest9271: Okey, shouldn't take that long.
[03:57] <Guest9271> don know y taking so long
[03:57] <x_link> jimmy51_home: Does it crash with other players as well?
[03:57] <Invelios> What packages are needed to compile plasmoids?
[03:57] <x_link> Guest9271: Strange.
[03:58] <ubuntu_> hi
[03:58] <Guest9271> now its downloaded
[03:58] <jimmy51_home> x_link: no.... and it doesn't crash if i open amarok, and then play the file from within.  it just crashes when i click on one
[03:58] <jimmy51_home> weird
[03:58] <x_link> jimmy51_home: Ahha okey, odd.
[03:58] <x_link> Guest9271: Okey, good.
[03:58] <x_link> Guest9271:
[03:58] <lovre____> DaSkreech: are you here
[03:58] <x_link> sudo aptitude install compiz compiz-bcop compiz-core compiz-fusion-bcop compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-kde compiz-plugins compizconfig-backend-kconfig compizconfig-settings-manager libcompizconfig0 libcompizconfig0-dev
[03:59] <DaSkreech> It depends on if you are here
[03:59] <x_link> Guest9271: Run that now, as ONE line.
[03:59] <jimmy51_home> i guess i'll just have to stick with windows for my SIP phone + bluetooth
[03:59] <jimmy51_home> suzucks
[03:59] <DaSkreech> lovre____: Nice tail
[03:59] <x_link> jimmy51_home: Sorry I can't help you =/
[03:59] <lovre____> DaSkreech: >) bah, other one is registered...
[03:59] <DaSkreech> ;-)
[03:59] <DaSkreech> By you?
[03:59] <x_link> Guest9271: I really have to go now.
[03:59] <x_link> But run that last command as well.
[03:59] <jimmy51_home> x_link: no prob.  maybe it will work in the next release
[03:59] <DaSkreech> You are nicer with the tail anyway :)
[03:59] <Guest9271> x link
[04:00] <Guest9271> after that
[04:00] <x_link> And when that's done just press Alt+F2 and write fusion-icon.
[04:00] <Guest9271> jus give me a hint
[04:00] <lovre____> DaSkreech: thank you
[04:00] <x_link> Guest9271: Okey?
[04:00] <lovre____> DaSkreech: anywazy, im in kde4.1 now, and its greeeeeat! just one question, why dont my applications show in try, for example konversation and amarok. they say they will sit there but i dont see them
[04:00] <Guest9271> k
[04:00] <lovre____> DaSkreech: yes, registered by me, but cba to identify atm
[04:00] <x_link> Guest9271: When your current download is done, that long command, press Alt+F2 and write ->  fusion-icon.
[04:01] <Guest9271> k
[04:01] <DaSkreech> lovre____: konversation and amarok don't turn up in the tray?
[04:01] <x_link> Guest9271: Sorry, forgot one thing. You have to install emerald as well.
[04:01] <lovre____> DaSkreech: yes
[04:01] <lovre____> DaSkreech: they dont :s
[04:01] <x_link> Guest9271: sudo aptitude install emerald when your current download is done.
[04:01] <Guest9271> yes
[04:01] <x_link> Now i have to go.
[04:01] <DaSkreech> lovre____: Both are KDe3 that might have something to do with it
[04:01] <x_link> Guest9271: Join #Compiz-Fusion if it doesn't work after.
[04:02] <x_link> It's 05:01 here now, so I should go to sleep =)
[04:02] <x_link> Good night!
[04:02] <lovre____> DaSkreech: and kopete too.. nothing is going in the tray :^
[04:02] <DaSkreech> lovre____: Whats in the tray?
[04:03] <lovre____> show dashboard, klipper, knetwork, kmix, and device notifier, clock ofcourse
[04:04] <lovre____> DaSkreech: by the way, this looks way awesome tbh. i only hope there wont be many bugs... >s
[04:04] <DaSkreech> And kopete doesn't turn up?
[04:04] <DaSkreech> that's strange
[04:04]  * genii puts on a pot of coffee
[04:04] <lovre____> DaSkreech: could it be because im on live version. although i doubt it
[04:05]  * DaSkreech shrugs. It's a daily :) I have no idea what changes were made
[04:05] <dstambou> my tray is screwy in kde4, glitches all over the place :p
[04:05]  * DaSkreech sits by genii and gets out a KMug
[04:05] <lovre____> DaSkreech: ok, dont bother :)
[04:05] <DaSkreech> dstambou: Such as ?
[04:05] <lovre____> DaSkreech: thank you for your time :
[04:06]  * DaSkreech shakes the box and looks in
[04:06] <DaSkreech> lovre____: You can have some more I have a litte left
[04:06]  * genii fills DaSkreech's Kubuntu Mug to the brim with delicious coffee
[04:07] <lovre____> DaSkreech: ehehehe, amused :)
[04:08] <lovre____> DaSkreech: is katapult still active or is there something else
[04:09] <DaSkreech> lovre____: try alt+F2
[04:09] <DaSkreech> it does a lot of katpult type stuff
[04:09] <lovre____> DaSkreech: i see
[04:09] <DaSkreech> Katapult is still coming along
[04:09] <DaSkreech> and there is another project quicksand that I'm hoping will be available for Ibex
[04:09] <lovre____> DaSkreech: kk
[04:26] <kubuser> clear
[04:26] <DaSkreech> cls
[04:35] <kubuser> DaSkreech: :)
[04:36] <kubuser> still trying to determine who uses KMail and KOrganizer and etc....
[04:42] <mike-solidus> how do i mount an ntfs drive?
[04:44] <genii> !ntfs
[04:44] <mike-solidus> !FUSE
[04:44] <kubuser> that ntfs-3g is really cool. however some issues with putting it in fstab.
[04:45] <kubuser> lot of configuration.... :) but it rocks!!!
[04:45] <kubuser> !
[04:45] <mike-solidus> i'm trying to get it to mount when clicking the filesystem, don't care about automounting
[04:45] <kubuser> clicking? in dolphin?
[04:45] <mike-solidus> it says i don't have privaliges and to rebuild fuse, is there simply a different fuse package with privalages built in?
[04:45] <mike-solidus> yeah with dolphin
[04:46] <kubuser> Not sure about KDE as I'm new. With xfce and such click actions use fstab entries for mounting.
[04:46] <kubuser> I'm sorry I shouldn't have interrupted genii as he probably has better info.
[04:48] <mike-solidus> hmm, its cool, just needa find out how to mount it somehow, i know i can automount through tutorials, but i'd like to do it thorugh kde's userspace filesystem so i can access it via dolphin easily
[04:48] <mike-solidus> it claims i need a different version of fuse because i'm an unprivaliged user
[04:52] <genii> kubuser: I only use ext4 and XFS these days so no expert on ntfs :) But thanks for the high esteem
[04:52] <genii> mike-solidus: Hm. Is this username you are on the first user which was made with install, or another name added subsequently?
[04:53] <genii> (they do not get added to adm/sudo enabled group by default)
[04:53] <mike-solidus> genii: it's the only user on the install
[04:54] <mike-solidus> genii: besides root, letme see if i can get the actual error message for you, dolphin hides it pretty quick
[04:55] <genii> Probably another argument for not running as root
[04:57] <mike-solidus> and error occured while accessing "Volume (ntfs)'. the system responded: unprivileged user can not mount NTFS block devices using the external FUSE library. Either mount the volume as root, or rebuild NTFS-3G with integrated FUSE support and make it setuid root. Please see more information at http://ntfs-3g.org/support.html#unprivaliged
[04:57] <juacom99> #kubuntu-es
[04:57] <juacom99> sorry i didn't mean to send that
[05:07] <genii> mike-solidus: Have you compiled anything on your box yet? eg: Do you have build-essential and other stuff like that already
[05:08] <mike-solidus> genii: no, but i did it through the first link you gave me with the automated python program, its wierd that fuse isn't compiled with support since kubuntu is usually run by the user instead of root though
[05:08] <genii> mike-solidus: I found an explanation of why here: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9748
[05:09] <mike-solidus> kk, so its an error with fuse itself kinda
[05:10] <genii> Looks like
[05:11] <jimmy51_home> where do i set file type associations?
[05:11] <jimmy51_home> do i just open with, other, and check the box for remember association?
[05:11] <genii> Inside the file
[05:13] <jimmy51_home> ah, click the little wrench
[05:13] <jimmy51_home> thanks
[05:13] <jimmy51_home> have you ever heard of adept running as a little window with a green ball icon, instaead of running in the system tray?
[05:14] <genii> If you are in kde4 and added a systray widget to desktop, possibly
[05:15] <jimmy51_home> kde3.5, and it only happens on some boots
[05:15] <mike-solidus> jimmy51_home its a conflict with compiz
[05:16] <Guest13722> omg, can someone help me register a name?
[05:16] <genii> !register
[05:18] <AdamTech1> ok got it
[05:18] <AdamTech1> just had to refresh my memory as I registerd before
[05:18] <AdamTech1> thanks anyway
[05:18]  * genii hands out another round of coffees in shiny new Kubuntu mugs
[05:19] <AdamTech1> #winehq
[05:19]  * mr---t- sips slowly
[05:19] <AdamTech1> dang
[05:19] <jimmy51_home> mike-solidus:  ah
[05:19] <genii> mr---t-: Hiya
[05:19] <AdamTech1> ummm how you swith channels again?
[05:19] <genii> /j #name
[05:19] <AdamTech1> oh ok thanks
[05:19] <genii> np
[05:20] <mr---t-> another night guiding the lost kubuntu user
[05:21] <AdamTech1> well i have used it before, just thought i would give it a shot again
[05:21] <AdamTech1> anyone used wine before?
[05:22] <anethum_a> hey i just installed the nvidia 177.80 driver and it killed my sound...what do i need to check to see whats wrong?
[05:23] <AdamTech1> i downloaded a .tar.bz2 file and how do i get it to install?
[05:24] <genii> Um, perhaps see if the thing you just downloaded is available instead from in the package manager
[05:26] <genii> AdamTech1: Is this wine you are trying to install?
[05:26] <AdamTech1> it won't i get an error
[05:26] <AdamTech1> and yes
[05:27] <genii> AdamTech1: Follow the instructions at: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[05:27] <AdamTech1> i did
[05:27] <genii> What exactly does the error message say?
[05:27] <AdamTech1> its not woking
[05:27] <genii> !doesnwork
[05:27] <genii> !doesntwork
[05:28] <genii> eg: What exactly does the error message say
[05:28] <AdamTech1> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[05:29] <EagleSn> AdamTech1 paste the error, using http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[05:30] <AdamTech1> omg the error is right there
[05:30] <AdamTech1> the full error is right there
[05:30] <EagleSn> provide a link please
[05:31] <AdamTech1> ?!?! for what?
[05:31] <EagleSn> a link to see your error
[05:31] <AdamTech1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/55886/
[05:31] <DaSkreech> apt-get install -f
[05:32] <genii> uhoh battery alert... AFK finding charger
[05:32] <AdamTech1> what will "install -f" do?
[05:32] <mr---t-> force
[05:32] <EagleSn> force install
[05:33] <anethum_a> in that case, perhaps i'll try sound work -f
[05:33] <anethum_a> ;)
[05:34] <AdamTech1> when i use the install -f i get : http://paste.ubuntu.com/55888/
[05:34] <DaSkreech> -f is fix install not force
[05:34] <EagleSn> you have to use sudo
[05:35] <anethum_a> any ideas about why the latest nvidia driver killed my sound?
[05:36] <EagleSn> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install wine
[05:37] <mr---t-> DaSkreech: really ? i thought it was force
[05:37] <mr---t-> my bad
[05:39] <anethum_a> :~$ sudo kmix
[05:39] <anethum_a> ERROR: Communication problem with kmix, it probably crashed.
[05:40] <anethum_a> xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers
[05:41] <ScorpKing> see what alsamixer does
[05:41] <ScorpKing> cheers guys, have fun
[05:41] <anethum_a> :~$ sudo alsamixer
[05:41] <anethum_a> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[05:42] <enyawix> kde 4.x ?
[05:43] <enyawix> looking for a distro that has it
[05:43] <anethum_a> kde 4.1.2 Kernel 2.6.24-21-generic nvidia proprietary driver 177.80
[05:44] <kavon> so will kubuntu be using NetworkManager 0.7 and have all those snazzy features ubuntu ibex will have?
[05:46] <stdin> kavon: kubuntu will have whatever ubuntu has, it has to
[05:46] <stdin> they share the same base
[05:48] <anethum_a> ok, today i installed the newest nvidia driver, 177.80, and it killed my sound, any help???
[05:48] <EagleSn> kavon network manager 0.7 is not working well for me in Kubuntu 8.10 beta, it just does not list any available wifi
[05:50] <genii> anethum_a: Incidentally in future don't use sudo to run kde or gnome applications
[05:51] <genii> anethum_a: It makes their resource files owned by root and therefore not allowed to be read or altered by the user they should rightfully need to be run by
[05:52] <anethum_a> oh, i was only trying sudo becuase they weren't working initially, but thanks for that info
[05:53] <anethum_a> kmix will not start and anything sound related seems to have died
[05:53] <genii> This is how initially simple problems become compounded....
[05:54] <genii> anethum_a: My first guess is that your chipset is integrated. What does command:     lspci | grep Audio              report as your soundcard make?
[05:54] <anethum_a> 00:07.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP67 High Definition Audio (rev a1)
[05:55] <genii> anethum_a: Looking it up
[06:01] <genii> anethum_a: It uses the intel hda driver.    does command:    lsmod | grep snd_hda_intel            report anything?
[06:02] <anethum_a> nothing
[06:03] <genii> anethum_a: Try:   sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel                  and then try previous command again, pastebin result of that please
[06:04] <genii> There is also a known issue with intel made hda cards, the fix for which may also work on this one. But we will see first about just loading the driver
[06:07] <anethum_a> http://pastebin.com/d54cfb27f
[06:07] <anethum_a> thats all its giving me
[06:07] <genii> Reading
[06:08] <genii> anethum_a: You forgot the dash between snd and hda when loading the module
[06:08] <genii> eg: snd-hda-intel    and not snd hda-intel
[06:08] <anethum_a> same results
[06:09] <mr---t-> isn't it underscore?
[06:09] <anethum_a> i tried a combination of dashes and underscores just for kicks
[06:09] <genii> mr---t-: It's underscore when lsmod dash when modprobe
[06:10] <mr---t-> o
[06:11] <genii> Hmm. "unknown symbol" generally means compiled for incorrect kernel version
[06:12] <genii> anethum_a: Can you pastebin result of command:    dmesg | tail              please
[06:13] <anethum_a> http://pastebin.com/d19252939
[06:14] <genii> Reading
[06:16] <genii> anethum_a: OK. I think you should follow the instructions for getting regular intel hda to work, since it involves compiling the driver, which will in this case overwrite the one giving grief
[06:16] <genii> !intelhda
[06:16] <enyawix> is kubuntu 64bit milti arch?
[06:17] <enyawix> will debian .deb packages work with kubuntu?
[06:17] <anethum_a> ok, great. if its not terribly important that i do this now, i'd like to wait until tomorrow as i've really got to get in the bed!
[06:18] <genii> anethum_a: Nothing should blow up before tomorrow ;)
[06:19] <anethum_a> thanks a bunch for your help you're a lifesaver
[06:19] <zerothis> ﻿I have some files in a ........../subdirectory on a removable drive. I want them (the subdirectory) to be automatically available in my home directory when the drive is plugged in. Would mount -bind or mount -rbind do this?
[06:19] <anethum_a> hopefully i can get it straightened out tomorrow. g'night!
[06:21] <genii> enyawix: 64 bit works on both amd and intel.       second answer: most debian packages will. But it is not a good idea to install them because when they do not work, failure can mean a system which is not operational. Usage of debian packages on (k)ubuntu is discouraged, and not supported
[06:28] <unitypunk> hey...
[06:30] <enyawix> genii is flash working on 64 bit version? and can I install more than one version of gcc and switch between then with gcc-config?
[06:33] <genii> enyawix: Yes.Yes. And Yes.
[07:04] <dinci> hello there - what are the min. system requirements for kubuntu 8 beta
[07:04] <dinci> ?
[07:04] <genii> dinci: They should know in channel #ubuntu+1
[07:05] <dinci> genii: why not here?
[07:06] <Jucato> because this channel isn't for "the next release of *buntu"
[07:06] <genii> dinci: Someone here actually might know. But it's not the channel for beta releases
[07:07] <genii> dinci: The minimum requirements for 8.04 are approximately Pentium 2 400Mhz system with 256Mb RAM and 3Gb hard drive.
[07:09] <dinci> perfect - thank you. I didn't find that on their website in FAQ section :) they should add it!
[07:10] <dinci> then here is a question for you: I just upgraded my dapper drake to edgy eft. apt-get update showed only errors. I replaced the previous sources.list from dapper. did the update - it worked.
[07:11] <genii> dinci: There is not a question in that statement
[07:11] <dinci> than dpkg -r to the xubuntu desktop and some related applications (kept only kde). rebooted and guess what bustbox /in/sh: can't acces tty; job control turned off
[07:13] <TRIGG3R> can anyone explain to me step by step, how to make an extended partition using the live cd?
[07:13] <enyawix> #ubuntu
[07:14] <dinci> Now I have oly the (initramfs) prompt and have no idea what to do - because the busybox can appear from various reasons
[07:14] <dinci> (as I read on the net)
[07:14] <dinci> genii: am I on the right channel for this question?
[07:15] <genii> dinci: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279884
[07:15] <genii> dinci: Yes, this is the support channel for ubuntu. It would not work very well if it there were no questions being asked and answered
[07:17] <genii> Insert a "k" before "ubuntu" in above statement  ;)
[07:17] <anbu> any one help me mount an usb pen drive
[07:17] <anbu> it says permission denied
[07:18] <anbu> pls help
[07:18] <anbu> urgent
[07:18] <anbu> am newbe
[07:18] <anbu> genii
[07:18] <anbu> pls help
[07:19] <freaky[t]> is there any good UML tool for kubuntu?
[07:19] <genii> anbu: How is it you are attempting to mount the drive?
[07:19] <anbu> when i plug my drive it shows
[07:19] <genii> command-line,dolphin,konqueror, etc
[07:19] <mike-solidus> is the new amarok out in packages yet?
[07:19] <anbu> konqueror
[07:20] <anbu> genii - konqueror
[07:20] <genii> anbu: Is the username you are logged on with made after installing kubuntu, or the first name made during the install?
[07:21] <anbu> first made
[07:21] <anbu> genii - first made
[07:21] <genii> mike-solidus: I've heard amarok2 is available but have no experience or other knowledge of it
[07:21] <genii> anbu: OK. What filesystem is on there?
[07:21] <anbu> genii - its fat32
[07:22] <mike-solidus> genii: cool, do you know how to force katapult to reindex applications. after upgrading to the beta it still trys to load all my kde3 apps which it can't find
[07:22] <genii> mike-solidus: No idea
[07:23] <mike-solidus> kde4 is amazing
[07:23] <mike-solidus> i tried it at 4.1 and it was really crappy, but this version rocks
[07:24] <genii> anbu: Please remove the drive. Wait 20 seconds. Then plug it back in. Then in konsole issue:   dmesg | tail         and please put the result in a pastebin and report here the URL
[07:24] <genii> !paste
[07:24] <genii> anbu: If unfamiliar with pastebin see the bots instruction above
[07:25] <anbu> ok gennii thanks
[07:25] <TRIGG3R> can anyone explain to me step by step, how to make an extended partition using the live cd?
[07:29] <genii> TRIGG3R: See http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Partition/#mixed
[07:29] <anbu> genii its herehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/55910/
[07:29] <anbu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/55910/
[07:29] <genii> anbu: Reading
[07:31] <anbu> genii did u read
[07:33] <genii> anbu: OK. Issue: sudo mkdir /media/sdc1;sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdc1 /media/sdc1 -o exec,rw,users
[07:34] <anbu> mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/sdc1': File exists
[07:34] <genii> anbu: You should after be able to navigate to it through konqueror..storage media
[07:34] <dinci> alt+f1 -> boot log. alt+f7 -> initramfs prompt. i understand grub doesn't know the swap. I edited the grub -replaced UUID with /dev/hda2. Booted - same error. On reboot the old UUID is still there (?)
[07:35] <anbu> genii - it show error  'mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/sdc1': File exists'
[07:35] <genii> dinci: Editing it in grub prompt works for 1 boot. To make it permanent edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:35] <genii> anbu: Thats fine. Just do the second part then
[07:35] <genii> anbu: EG:        sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdc1 /media/sdc1 -o exec,rw,users
[07:36] <anbu> mount: /dev/sdc1 already mounted or /media/sdc1 busy
[07:36] <anbu> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdc1 is already mounted on /media/sdc1
[07:36] <genii> anbu: OK. first then, do:    sudo umount /media/sdc1
[07:37] <anbu> thanks genii its worked
[07:37] <anbu> thanks a loooooot
[07:37] <genii> anbu:You're welcome
[07:37] <anbu> but it shows access denied when i write some thing
[07:38] <dinci> genii: I don't have the boot directory when ls-ing from the (initramfs) prompt. that ain't the problem. error persists when booting from grub without UUID
[07:38] <genii> anbu: OK. 1 minute
[07:39] <anbu> ya
[07:41] <rod_> Hi all
[07:42] <anbu> hi rod
[07:42] <dinci> yo rod
[07:43] <rod_> new to kubuntu trying out the toys
[07:43] <genii> anbu: sudo umount /media/sdc1   once more. Then: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdc1 /media/sdc1 -o user,rw,exec,umask=0               this time
[07:44] <genii> dinci: So using hda2 still gave some grub error and will not come up into system?
[07:44] <dinci> genii: unfortunately
[07:44] <stdin> I think "uid=1000,gid=1000" would be good ^ there
[07:45] <genii> stdin: Thanks for paying attention :)
[07:45] <stdin> genii: just looking in whilst compiling codeblocks ;)
[07:45] <anbu> yes it work
[07:45] <anbu> where u get this information genii
[07:45] <genii> anbu: Google :)
[07:46] <anbu> but i search for an hour and i can't how u can
[07:46] <genii> anbu: Specifically in this case from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=152966
[07:46]  * genii google-fu's!
[07:47] <anbu> oh that's good this is the distinction between knowladgable and me
[07:47] <genii> dinci: Able to boot to livecd at all?
[07:47] <dinci> genii: livecd worked
[07:47] <anbu> once again thanks genii.
[07:47] <genii> anbu: You're welcome
[07:48] <genii> dinci: From livecd would be useful to know output of: sudo fdisk -l          so to try and deduce where to point grub for loading kernel
[07:49] <genii> dinci: In pastebin preferably :)
[07:51] <dinci> genii: tried stdin's sugestion. boot blocked. splash disabled. kernel panis - not syncing:attempted to kill init
[07:53] <dinci> but there's a syntax error: 0xid=1000 ..
[07:54] <dinci> I'm wrinting "uid=1000,gid=1000"
[07:54] <genii> dinci: If you're going to upgrade from 6.06 to 8.04 anyhow maybe just download an 8.04 cd and install directly instead of bothering to try and rescue the 6.06 failed 6.10 upgrade
[07:54] <dinci> that's what I thought ..
[07:54] <dinci> :)
[07:54] <genii> dinci: The uid/gid recommendation was for anbu and not you
[07:54] <dinci> damn
[07:55] <genii> stdin: You should put username to which instructions are directed in the body of a reply so as not to cause confusion .... ;)
[07:55]  * genii runs and hides
[07:58] <genii> dinci: Anyhow, sudo fdisk -l    should have some info on your hd like what the partitions are named and then you could experimentally try them in turn from editing the grub prompt
[07:58] <genii> hda1 hda2 hda3  or so on
[08:00] <tekgeeklt> anyone have a recommendation for a ftp server that has a gui and not to difficult to setup?
[08:12] <dinci> genii: thank you for your help. god bless you
[08:13] <genii> dinci: You're welcome, although how effective the assistance was may be of some debate
[08:16] <unitypunk> hey
[08:18] <unitypunk> anyone around?
[08:18] <genii> unitypunk: Somewhere between 2 and 290 perhaps
[08:19] <unitypunk> yay!
[08:19] <genii> unitypunk: Please state the nature of your Kubuntu emergency
[08:21] <unitypunk> bahaha
[08:21] <unitypunk> im having some wifi issues i think
[08:24] <chfwiggu1> !bot
[08:24] <unitypunk> i cant stay connected to irc on the deskto
[08:26] <chfwiggu1> unitypunk: ure up now 10 mins
[08:27] <unitypunk> im not on the desktop
[08:27] <unitypunk> its trying to get synaptic
[08:27] <unitypunk> but it keeps hanging up
[08:30] <genii> !aptfix
[08:37] <unitypunk> brb
[08:40] <unitypunk> hmm
[08:40] <unitypunk> like waiting for na time bomb...
[08:51] <Ratchet4620>  hey um i thgink im in a bit of a jam...  I'm in the middle of upgrading from KDE3 to 8.10 and i think the install is frozen
[08:52] <Ratchet4620> anysugestions on what to do?
[08:53] <Ratchet4620> anybody ?????
[08:54] <chfwiggum> Ratchet4620: :) its impossible to upgrade from kde3 to 8.10. u can do so from kde3 to kde4 or from 8.04 to 8.10
[08:54] <genii> chfwiggum: Beat me to it
[08:54] <chfwiggum> fast typer :)
[08:54] <Ratchet4620> is a noob XD
[08:54] <Ratchet4620> 8.04 to 8.10
[08:55] <Ratchet4620> that what i ment
[08:55] <genii> Ratchet4620: Perhaps you should consider not installing beta software :)
[08:55] <genii> Ratchet4620: That aside they may be able to help or know something about how to assist you in the cannel for 8.10 which is #ubuntu+1
[08:59] <jfesalvanera> hello
[08:59] <jfesalvanera> does anybody here knows how to setup wifi
[08:59] <amerigo> hello I got a problem with kino
[08:59] <unitypunk> im on the trouble maker now..
[08:59] <unitypunk> cant you telll :-/
[09:00] <amerigo> is impossibile to conveert in mpeg format ...
[09:00] <jfesalvanera> hmmm
[09:01] <amerigo> kubuntu 8.04.1
[09:01] <amerigo> kino just installed
[09:02] <amerigo> unitypunk: probabily you must activate zeroconf
[09:03] <unitypunk> whats that :-/
[09:04] <jfesalvanera> does anybody here knows how to setup wifi
[09:04] <jfesalvanera> any help
[09:04] <chfwiggum> jfesalvanera: must specify your problem. names, versions. cant help you
[09:05] <amerigo> sorry unit i was telling to jfesalvanera
[09:06] <jfesalvanera> im using ubuntu 8, I had a problem how to setup wifi connection
[09:06] <unitypunk> gah
[09:06] <unitypunk> that is so frustrating.
[09:07] <jfesalvanera> what driver do i need to install so that my wifi works?
[09:10] <unitypunk> oh look
[09:10] <unitypunk> desktop made it back online again.
[09:16] <amerigo> !kino
[09:16] <amerigo> !mdeie
[09:16] <amerigo> !media
[09:16] <amerigo> !codecs
[09:19] <amerigo> somebody can help me with kino??
[09:22] <amerigo> i can't export avi in mpeg format
[09:24] <amerigo> button is gray...
[09:31] <genii> !info konverter
[09:31] <genii> Hmm
[09:34] <unitypunk> amerigo, what were you saying about zeroconf
[09:34] <amerigo> hardy is 8.04
[09:34] <amerigo> ??
[09:34] <unitypunk> yes.
[09:35] <unitypunk> im pretty sure
[09:35] <amerigo> manDVD work in hardy?
[09:35] <unitypunk> got no idea.
[09:36] <unitypunk> i am super new to linux.
[09:36] <unitypunk> i take it back
[09:36] <unitypunk> super ignoarant.
[09:37] <amerigo> Zeroconfig may be the daemon that search Wi-Fi connection
[09:37] <amerigo> if you have access code may be very simple to huck a Wi-Fi connection
[09:38] <unitypunk> i dont follow you?
[09:38] <amerigo> i don't have wifi system ... i don't know exactly
[09:38] <unitypunk> oh.. heh
[09:38] <amerigo> in Admin >>System
[09:39] <unitypunk> knetwork manager shows up as staying connected to the wap
[09:39] <amerigo> there is something like that
[09:39] <amerigo> you can found configuration
[09:39] <amerigo> of system
[09:39] <amerigo> and wifi connection
[09:39] <amerigo> one of them have zeroconf
[09:40] <amerigo> you had to found this procedure...
[09:40] <amerigo> but may be halso a firewall configuration
[09:40] <amerigo> in this case toy must check it
[09:40] <amerigo> also
[09:41] <amerigo> this is what I know
[09:41] <unitypunk> not firewall.
[09:48] <chfwiggum> i have some difficulties :) with i think the xine engine.when i use amarok and mirointernettv(depends on democracy player) under kde4 it seems the video driver for xine isnt set correctly.tried most of the drivers to change in console b/c xine gui crashes when it comes to change video drivers.manipulated xorg.conf - no change.the mplayers work all nicely, kaffeine also, but crashes when i try to set xine-parameters in the gui.
[09:49] <chfwiggum> probs only with amarok2-video and democracyplayer
[09:50] <amerigo> !xine
[09:50] <chfwiggum> :(
[09:51] <chfwiggum> in mplayer i chose x11 for video_driver but cant find it in xine-maybe different name?
[09:54] <chfwiggum> maybe someone may lend me his xorg.conf to compare? on an ubuntu install democacy works like a charm out of box
[09:54] <chfwiggum> *democracy
[10:02] <unitypunk__> gah
[10:02] <unitypunk__> why cant i mount this hard drive :/
[10:03] <unitypunk__> well i know why..
[10:04] <unitypunk__> but it wont let me fix it..
[10:04] <chfwiggum> unitypunk__: which hard drive?
[10:05] <unitypunk__> its a 160g ntfs drive
[10:06] <chfwiggum> want it to mount at start? did u put it in /etc/fstab?
[10:11] <unitypunk> chfwiggum,  its not in fstab.
[10:11] <unitypunk> and.. it timed out again.
[10:11] <chfwiggum> unitypunk: do u want it to be mounted at boottime?
[10:11] <unitypunk> sure, but im not spcificly trying to do it at boot, i was trying to do it now.
[10:12] <chfwiggum> ok ill help
[10:13] <chfwiggum> unitypunk: open a console
[10:13] <unitypunk> ok
[10:13] <chfwiggum> unitypunk: blkid
[10:13] <unitypunk> didnt do anything
[10:13] <chfwiggum> unitypunk: sudo blkid
[10:13] <chfwiggum> sry
[10:13] <unitypunk> ah
[10:14] <chfwiggum> then u open /etc/fstab in kate as root
[10:14] <chfwiggum> to write
[10:14] <chfwiggum> like alt+f2  kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[10:15] <unitypunk> rgr
[10:15] <chfwiggum> unitypunk: rgr?
[10:15] <unitypunk> kate is up
[10:15] <chfwiggum> yup
[10:16] <chfwiggum> now in console there u find ur hd with an UID
[10:16] <unitypunk> mmhmm
[10:16] <chfwiggum> this UUID u copy in fstab
[10:16] <chfwiggum> in a new line :)
[10:17] <unitypunk> done
[10:17] <tMish> where do I report fde4 bug
[10:17] <tMish> where do I report kde4 bug
[10:17] <chfwiggum> so this line starts with UUID=some number
[10:17] <unitypunk> got it
[10:17] <chfwiggum> then u make a folder in your home directory
[10:18] <chfwiggum> wher u want this hd to be mounted
[10:18] <unitypunk> does it matter where i make it?
[10:19] <unitypunk> can i put it with the other hard drive in /media
[10:19] <chfwiggum> well if u want read/write acces as a normal user it should be in YOUR /home/unitypunk directory
[10:19] <unitypunk> oh.. ok
[10:19] <chfwiggum> or whatever ur username is
[10:20] <unitypunk> new folder named anything i want?
[10:20] <chfwiggum> sure
[10:20] <unitypunk> done
[10:20] <chfwiggum> back to /etc/fstab
[10:20] <chfwiggum> first UUID
[10:20] <unitypunk> k
[10:20] <chfwiggum> then space then the path to your new hd-folder
[10:21] <chfwiggum> then space then ntfs ?(u said?)
[10:21] <chfwiggum>  space defaults space 0 space 2
[10:22] <unitypunk> okay
[10:22] <unitypunk> got all that
[10:22] <chfwiggum> no quotes around the UUID? then save that thing:)
[10:22] <unitypunk> saved.
[10:23] <unitypunk> reboot?
[10:23] <chfwiggum> kewl now in console lets mount all in fstab with mount -a
[10:23] <chfwiggum> no reboot its not M$
[10:23] <chfwiggum> :)
[10:23] <joy> hello
[10:23] <unitypunk> didnt work
[10:23] <chfwiggum> sudo mount -a?
[10:23] <joy> may i ask how to delete most visited site?
[10:23] <unitypunk> gave me the same thing about being denied
[10:24] <chfwiggum> only sudo can mount !!
[10:24] <unitypunk> because ntfs iss marked to be inuse
[10:24] <unitypunk> no
[10:24] <unitypunk> i did sudo mount -a
[10:24] <joy> i want to delete all the site i recently visit
[10:24] <unitypunk> log file indicates unclean shut down
[10:24] <joy> can you help me how to do this?
[10:25] <chfwiggum> want to paste that fstab line? leave out your username
[10:25] <joy> where can i find log file?
[10:25] <unitypunk> yerr
[10:25] <joy> is it at the konqueror?
[10:26] <unitypunk> the line with uuid?
[10:26] <chfwiggum> yep
[10:26] <joy> hey unitypunk
[10:26] <joy> can you help me?
[10:26] <mty4806> soone plz... I need some serious help.... drivin me nutz
[10:27] <unitypunk> UUID=DED08416D083F2D7 /home/unitypunk/storage ntfs 0 2
[10:27] <mty4806> have a new, FRESH install... just finished updating...
[10:27] <unitypunk> no joy, i suck at this stuff..
[10:27] <unitypunk> im trying to learn myself :-/
[10:27] <mty4806> fresh formated HDD.... 1tb internal. 3 partions ext3
[10:28] <joy> ok
[10:28] <unitypunk> my dad got a 1tb external.. im jelous..
[10:28] <mty4806> mounted in each perspective folders under /home/XXX1 - 3
[10:28] <joy> me too
[10:28] <joy> anybody here...
[10:28] <mty4806> I cant write to any of them...
[10:28] <joy> hey mty4806
[10:28] <mty4806> ya ya
[10:28] <mty4806> waz - up joy
[10:29] <joy> can you help me how to delete all the site i recently visited?
[10:29] <carib909> Cannot open network services on KDE4 Kubuntu authentication error. Any ideas
[10:29] <mty4806> visited some ... pern sites dont want to be found out
[10:29] <mty4806> ????
[10:29] <joy> no
[10:29] <mty4806> ooohh
[10:29] <joy> i want to delete it
[10:29] <mty4806> ok, well under firefox, cust clear the cash
[10:30] <joy> im here at office
[10:30] <joy> its prohibited here
[10:30] <joy> dont them to find out
[10:30] <mty4806> oohhh
[10:30] <joy> can you help me
[10:30] <carib909> They can still tell what sites you visited. Registered on servers.
[10:30] <joy> where can i find firefox
[10:30] <mty4806> ummm... is this a corperate system ur using?
[10:31] <joy> yes
[10:31] <joy> im using linux
[10:31] <mty4806> if it is, good luck with permissions... you will prolly need to be sudo....
[10:31] <carib909> What browser is joy using?
[10:31] <mty4806> firefox i presume
[10:31] <chfwiggum> joy: no ladies' pics at work if u dont have write access :)
[10:31] <joy> konqueror
[10:32] <joy> its konqueror
[10:32] <joy> yeah
[10:32] <joy> hey
[10:32] <joy> somebody help me
[10:33] <chfwiggum> joy: ure doomed
[10:33] <mty4806> so um yeah.... I need to modify permissions for all 3 of my partisons within one drive, mounted at /home/"folder 1- 3"
[10:33] <unitypunk> chf
[10:33] <unitypunk> i got it..
[10:33] <mty4806> cant write to them withought sudo
[10:33] <chfwiggum> bring it on
[10:33] <unitypunk> had to force it.
[10:33] <mty4806> this is my drive for netatalk file locations
[10:33] <joy> hey
[10:33] <chfwiggum> unitypunk: it works?
[10:33] <joy> chfwiggum
[10:33] <unitypunk> yeah
[10:33] <unitypunk> hey..
[10:33] <joy> unitypunk
[10:34] <unitypunk> its in my fstab twice
[10:34] <joy> can you help me
[10:34] <joy> im using konqueror
[10:34] <chfwiggum> unitypunk: once is enough if ure sure delete the second
[10:34] <mty4806> if your corp is any good they prolly log all internal network activity via a proxy svr
[10:34] <chfwiggum> or comment it out with #
[10:34] <unitypunk> one was there before you
[10:35] <unitypunk> *before i added the one
[10:35] <chfwiggum> comment it out
[10:35] <unitypunk> "?
[10:35] <unitypunk> quotes?
[10:35] <unitypunk> or ##?
[10:35] <chfwiggum> one # at beginning of line is enough
[10:35] <unitypunk> k
[10:35] <joy> hello
[10:35] <chfwiggum> then save it maybe u want to reboot to prove your work
[10:36] <joy> i cant follow
[10:36] <unitypunk_> brb
[10:36] <mty4806> so yeah.... I need to make write premissions to 3 partions... for read/write alll folders in each partion
[10:37] <carib909>   Cannot open network services on KDE4 Kubuntu authentication error. Any ideas
[10:37] <mty4806> btw, ever notice in the showtime siers "Weeds" there isnt a single IBM??? APPLE is #1, ubuntu is #1.1
[10:37] <unitypunk> damn its late.
[10:37] <mty4806> well in iraq its jsut about lunch time
[10:37] <unitypunk> lol
[10:37] <mty4806> <<--- deployed US SOLDIER
[10:38] <jussi01> !ot
[10:39] <mty4806> so yeah.... havin a lil issue
[10:39] <smutje> hi
[10:39] <mty4806> and I just broke my chair.... now I have 2 issues
[10:40] <smutje> could somebody tell me how to change grafic size
[10:40] <mty4806> grafic.... specify plz
[10:41] <smutje> i wanna use 1024x768
[10:41] <smutje> or 1280x768
[10:41] <mty4806> do you have the restricted drivers installed?
[10:41] <smutje> i only can use 640x or 800x
[10:42] <smutje> no
[10:42] <mty4806> nvidia, or ati?
[10:42] <smutje> nvidia
[10:42] <smutje> uptget nvidia ?
[10:42] <mty4806> well that is ez.... go to system/admin/ hardware drivers
[10:44] <smutje> thx
[10:44] <carib909> Help on network connections please
[10:44] <mty4806> np smutje
[10:45] <mty4806> i have to go to the px... my chair brokeded....
[10:49] <amerigo> nobody have idea why export in mpeg is disabilited...?
[10:49] <amerigo> pgrm. Kino  -  Hardy 8.04.1
[10:50] <amerigo> i can't export
[10:51] <powertool08> how many minutes can I overburn an 80 min cd? Is 87:44 too much?
[10:53] <waylandbill> powertool08: 90 seconds depending on media
[10:53] <chfwiggum> Guest79985: depends on the material u got, but 87 might be too long
[10:54] <powertool08> waylandbill: hmm, so I guess I'm not going to get those last ones on there :/
[10:54] <waylandbill> no. not 7 minutes. :)
[10:55] <powertool08> waylandbill: and it wouldn't do 4:04 over?
[10:56] <chfwiggum> powertool08: well on some german sonys i heard 85 was possible
[10:56] <powertool08> waylandbill: I guess a better question is, how do I find the size of the files to be added in k3b?
[10:56] <powertool08> chfwiggum: Hmm... I just have a boring samsung
[10:57] <chfwiggum> powertool08: it really depends on the cds u got
[10:57] <chfwiggum> not the writer
[10:57] <powertool08> chfwiggum: If I go for it will it just burn to the edge and then stop mid-song when I play or will it fubar my drive?
[10:58] <powertool08> chfwiggum: oh, well cheap imation's for the media
[10:58] <chfwiggum> powertool08: no harm to hardware, maybe u check it out
[10:58] <powertool08> chfwiggum: I think I will, thanks :)
[10:58] <waylandbill> you won't hurt the hardware, you just will make a frisbee... or a beverage coaster..
[10:59] <waylandbill> you are essentially writing on the lead area. If you write too much, there will no room for the lead and it wont get written making the disc no good.
[11:00] <powertool08> waylandbill: ok
[11:07] <powertool08> well it burned but the last song cuts off 1:49 into it, oh well...
[11:08] <chfwiggum> powertool08: so how much did u put on it?
[11:09] <powertool08> chfwiggum: I went with the 84:04
[11:09] <chfwiggum> not too bad :)
[11:10] <powertool08> chfwiggum: so it cut about a minute and a half from the last track, and the last 3 don't have cd text with them
[11:10] <chfwiggum> ah 82 aint world record :)
[11:14] <powertool08> guess I should get some sleep... its 5:15 am and I have to be up at 7
[11:14]  * powertool08 bids goodnight to irc
[11:27] <mty4806> nahhh its 127pm in iraq... ur good
[11:31] <JackWinter> horay, just setup /boot/grub on another partition and made a custom menu.lst  works a charm.  considering adding a 5:th os now :)
[11:31] <JackWinter> is the kubuntu 4.10 beta out yet ? and which level ?  rc ?
[11:32] <mty4806> hey jack... can u help me?
[11:33] <JackWinter> mty4806: don't know if i can :)  what's the prob ?
[11:34] <mty4806> kk... here check it out... I got an internal 1tb, 3 partons, mounted in /home/"fldr1 - 3" but I cannto write to them... each drive is for somthing differnt... 1 music, 2 fam pics& vida, & 3 time machine to run with netatalk.
[11:34] <jarek_> hello! i have ubuntu and want to install on it kubuntu, how? sudo apt-get install kde? that is all? :)
[11:34] <mty4806> but I cant write to them... adn I need ALL users to be able to write
[11:35] <mty4806> write read, create, move ... all permissions?
[11:35] <mty4806> can I just chmod 770 /home/ fldr 1-3?
[11:39] <waylandbill> mty4806: the way I would handle that is to put the users you want to access into a group and give write access to that group.
[11:40] <waylandbill> mty4806: giving write access to the world would do what you want, but is almost always a bad idea.
[11:40] <mty4806> ok.... last time I did that I had to reinstall cause I messed sumthin up...
[11:40] <mty4806> what I did i unno
[11:40] <JackWinter> mty4806: ok, as i've been told lately the traditional way is the mount media in /media but that shouldn't matter, you can do as you like.  are the disks writable at all ?  depends on the options used in /etc/fstab  lastly i suppose you can chmod them.  770 would make them accessible for yourself and users in your group.  maybe 644 would be a better choise ?
[11:41] <mty4806> well lets try...
[11:42] <JackWinter> mty4806: or 666...  would make them read/write for all users
[11:43] <mty4806> ok, the devil chmod... got it....
[11:44] <mty4806> ok creating a folder is says permissions denied
[11:44] <mty4806> do I need to reboot?
[11:45] <JackWinter> no need to reboot
[11:46] <mty4806> no work yet
[11:46] <crusty> hey
[11:46] <JackWinter> first of all for what user are they ?  ls -l  shows that
[11:46] <waylandbill> you shouldn't ever have to reboot unless you install a new kernel. :)
[11:48] <mty4806> ls: cannot access /home/music/lost+found: Permission denied
[11:48] <mty4806> total 0
[11:48] <mty4806> d????????? ? ? ? ?                ? lost+found
[11:48] <mty4806> matthew@File-Hopper:~$
[11:49] <mty4806> wtf is that?
[11:49] <JackWinter> try sudo ls -l then
[11:49] <mty4806> k
[11:50] <mty4806> drwx------ 2 root root 16384 2008-10-10 09:32 lost+found
[11:51] <JackWinter> so that belongs to user root from group root, and is rwx only for root, so no one can access it....
[11:51] <mty4806> k how do I amke it part of the "users" group
[11:52] <JackWinter> sudo chown user:group filename
[11:52] <mty4806> K can I just do that to a directory?
[11:53] <JackWinter> think you can do it reccursive with -R option, so try "sudo chown -R mty:mty /home/music"
[11:54] <JackWinter> replace mty with your username:group
[11:55] <mty4806> what is the default user group?
[11:56] <JackWinter> i assume you are under kubuntu.  in that case it would be the same as your username.  look with "ll -l *" in your home dir...
[11:56] <mty4806> ok.. tried that... heres the error
[11:56] <mty4806> Error removing file: Permission denied
[11:57] <mty4806> that is with rght clk creat new folder
[11:57] <JackWinter> can you pastebin the /etc/fstab file ?
[11:57] <mty4806> shure...
[11:58]  * JackWinter still wonders if there is a kubuntu 8.10 beta :)
[11:59] <mty4806> k its there
[11:59] <mty4806> mty4806 fstab
[11:59] <mty4806> http://paste.ubuntu.com/55955/
[12:01] <JackWinter> ok that looks fine.  you did create the mount parts in /home before mounting the partitions right
[12:01] <mty4806> i created the parts during install
[12:03] <JackWinter> no i mean the mountpoints.  in /home you would have to do "sudo mkdir music" "sudo mkdir TimeMacheen" etc.  also be careful about upper/lower case...
[12:03] <mty4806> like I said.... they were created during inital install...
[12:04] <JackWinter> ok.  what happened when you did chown above ?
[12:04] <mty4806> just took it
[12:04] <mty4806> no errors
[12:05] <JackWinter> and how does a "sudo ll -l *" in /home look like ?
[12:05] <JackWinter> sorry ls -l *
[12:05] <mty4806> d????????? ? ? ? ?                ? lost+found
[12:06] <mty4806> drwx------ 2 matthew matthew 16384 2008-10-10 09:32 lost+found
[12:06] <mty4806> this is sudo
[12:08] <JackWinter> is this in /home ?
[12:09] <mty4806> http://paste.ubuntu.com/55956/
[12:09] <mty4806> sry
[12:11] <JackWinter> ok, looks like music belongs to you know.  and if you do the same in /home/music ?
[12:12] <mty4806> permissions denied for cd
[12:15] <JackWinter> actually i wonder if this is right.  (still a bit of a noob).  my mountpoints are 755 once the media has been mounted in any case...
[12:16] <mty4806> ok. here seeing how there is nothing in them folders... I will delete them.... and erase them from fstab
[12:16] <mty4806> recreate.... but I need them to remount auto after reboot
[12:17] <amerigo> i had to install gtk+ for kubuntu hardy 8.04
[12:17] <amerigo> what should i use?
[12:18] <JackWinter> probably you have to set them 755 if they are for your own use, and 777 if they are for all users of the machine...
[12:19] <mty4806> ok.... here we go
[12:19] <mty4806> sudo chmod -R /home/
[12:19] <amerigo> ok
[12:19] <mty4806> ???
[12:19] <JackWinter> no, that's a bad idea :)
[12:19] <amerigo> mty4806: with how you are speaking?
[12:20] <mty4806> JackWinter
[12:20] <amerigo> ok sorry
[12:20] <waylandbill> you don't want universal access to all user's folders to all users. that's definately an accident waiting happen.
[12:21] <waylandbill> not to mention that Jill may not want Jack to see her... files...
[12:21] <mty4806> the "server" is only for serving personal files on home network from OS X
[12:21] <mty4806> this system will be used by none.... screen keyboard, mouse all disconected with fiber to router
[12:22] <mty4806> and then stuffed in a closet
[12:22] <JackWinter> and what are you going to use nfs ?
[12:22] <mty4806> netatalk
[12:22] <JackWinter> sorry don't know that.  if it was nfs then it would be easy :)
[12:22] <waylandbill> if you don't need multiple users then just create a single account for storing the files then.
[12:22] <randry> I have problem with wireless
[12:23] <JackWinter> i don't think you need to worry about all these users and access rights
[12:23] <randry> anyone can help?
[12:23] <waylandbill> randry: perhaps if you could be more specific we can try.
[12:24] <randry> ok
[12:24] <mty4806> well OS will require login.... default username is os x registerd name. ie "Matthew Yax" and then TM will conect and create immage of system
[12:24] <randry> if I run lspci
[12:24] <randry> there is no WLAN01
[12:24] <randry> only eth0 and io0
[12:25] <randry> I have installed ndiswrapper but it won't work
[12:25] <mty4806> ok, I am out...
[12:27] <randry> and it can't recognise my broadcom
[12:27] <randry> it says uknown device 4311
[12:28] <randry> any suggestion?
[12:28] <randry>  it says  ::0000:06:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4311 (rev 01)
[12:31] <waylandbill> last I knew that line was handled by the b43 kernel module and didn't need ndiswrapper.
[12:31] <randry> so
[12:31] <randry> What can I do?
[12:32] <waylandbill> is it listed in the Hardware Drivers Manager?
[12:32] <randry> what do u mean
[12:32] <randry> I run lspci
[12:33] <randry> it was listed there
[12:34] <randry> even the light showing wireless is not on
[12:34] <waylandbill> I mean... in the k-menu, go to system, and select "Hardware Drivers Manager"
[12:35] <waylandbill> the broadcom should be in there and not enabled. enabling it requires a hard wire network connection to download the b43 firmware.
[12:36] <randry> there is no hardware driver manger , do u mean device manager?
[12:39] <Dr_willis_> for the b43 stuff.. some times you need to do a little more work.. dependong on the exact wireless chipset. (or at least ive had to)
[12:39] <randry> I can't find there , is it Mobile PCI bridge
[12:40] <randry> what is b43?
[12:41] <randry> and system>administration>networking says enter password invalid
[12:42] <Dr_willis_> it would want your first users password - i imagine..
[12:43] <randry> I have only one user
[12:44] <randry> What can I do know?
[12:47] <Dr_willis_> I just  got here.. so have no idea what you are trying to do.
[12:48] <randry> I want to get my wireless working
[12:49] <waylandbill> randry is trying to get his 4311 wireless running. ndiswrapper is installed.
[12:49] <Dr_willis_> K -> system -> Hardware Drivers Manager
[12:49] <Dr_willis_> is the hardware driver tool under Kubuntu 8.04 Kde 3
[12:49] <Dr_willis_> !wireless
[12:50] <Dr_willis_> I would check the docs and wiki pages for that specific card also.
[12:50] <randry> mine is ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[12:50] <Dr_willis_> some take  a little extra work
[12:50] <Dr_willis_> I have No clue on 6.06 -  I would suggest upgrading.
[12:50] <waylandbill> oh.. dapper.. that's why there's no hardware driver manager. :)
[12:50] <Dr_willis_> that card may not even be supported on 6.06
[12:50]  * Dr_willis_ points out that the VERSION of the release.. is very impiorntant thing to mention when asking a question. :)
[12:51] <randry> there is no hardware Driver manger
[12:51] <Dr_willis_> randry,  yep.. i forget what its called in 6.06 - it may be restricted-manager, or somthing named lilke that..
[12:51] <waylandbill> if the version isn't told, we assume the current release. :-D
[12:51] <Dr_willis_> But thats no guarentee that card will work in 6.06
[12:51] <randry> how do I upgrade it
[12:51] <Dr_willis_> wireless has been much improved in 8.04
[12:51] <Dr_willis_> !upgrade
[12:52] <waylandbill> I'm pretty certain the b43 module is not in dapper.
[12:52] <randry> really
[12:52] <waylandbill> I want to guess that it came with fiesty or gutsy
[12:53] <randry> so wireless will not work in ubuntu dapper
[12:53] <waylandbill> you may be able to get ndiswrapper working, but you may save some frustration by upgrading
[12:54] <waylandbill> having a kernel module is better than a windows driver wrapper for sure.
[12:54] <Dr_willis_> if you are going to upgrade.. you may want to wait till the 8.10 release is out..  and just do a clean new install.
[12:56] <Dr_willis_> 8.10 due out at the end of this month
[12:56] <randry> there is a windows wireless driver inside system>administration
[12:56] <randry> and a button add
[12:57] <Dr_willis_> if there are no modules/drivers for that broadcom chipset.. it wont matter what buttens are there..
[12:58] <Dr_willis_> I would hit the ubuntu forums and serch for '6.06 B43XX' where XX is your proper chipset #
[12:58] <randry> mine is 4311 i think
[12:59] <randry> ok
[12:59] <kiran> #nightlabs
[13:10] <H|V_3ala2> hey
[13:10] <Caveman> names
[13:10] <randry> hey
[13:11] <H|V_3ala2> I have a problem installing kubuntu 8,10
[13:12] <H|V_3ala2> fresh istallation,,,,,stops at a screen with text mod,,,,,ubuntu@ubuntu:"$
[13:12] <H|V_3ala2> any1 here knows what to do?
[13:13] <Dr_willis_> clarify a bit..
[13:13] <Dr_willis_> You Installed.. and it installed succesuffly? but you get  the LOGIN: prompt at boot up?
[13:14] <H|V_3ala2> no
[13:14] <H|V_3ala2> It's on booting
[13:14] <H|V_3ala2> after the loading screen
[13:15] <Dr_willis_> thats not very clear...
[13:15] <H|V_3ala2> ok,,,,listen
[13:15] <Dr_willis_> you mean after grub.. then ya see the silly bar animation, you then do not see the KDM login screen. but instead get a login: or is it going straight to a Shell Prompt?
[13:15] <H|V_3ala2> when u want to install it or run the live,,,,u put the cd to boot
[13:15] <randry> Have u found something there Dr_willis
[13:16] <Dr_willis_> randry,  somthing where?
[13:16] <H|V_3ala2> I have selected language
[13:16] <H|V_3ala2> and then pressed enter
[13:16] <randry> in forum 6.06 b4311
[13:16] <H|V_3ala2> loading screen apear,,,then finish,,,and it says bios year==0...then mouse cross apear
[13:17] <H|V_3ala2> but only for 2 secs
[13:17] <Caveman> H|V_3ala2: so you get ubuntu@ubuntu$: prompt ?
[13:17] <H|V_3ala2> yea
[13:17] <Caveman> so
[13:17] <H|V_3ala2> at the end that's what I get
[13:17] <Caveman> it looks like you might have booted into text mode
[13:17] <Caveman> this is the live cd you said?
[13:17] <H|V_3ala2> yea
[13:17] <Caveman> right
[13:17] <Caveman> what kind of video hardware do you have?
[13:17] <H|V_3ala2> sis mirage 3
[13:18] <Dr_willis_> you said it was  a 'fresh installation'   which dident make sence then..
[13:18] <Caveman> H|V_3ala2: hrmm, ok this a laptop or desktop?
[13:18] <H|V_3ala2> laptop
[13:18] <Dr_willis_> Ive seen lot of people in here with 'sis' problems.
[13:18] <Caveman> make model?
[13:18] <H|V_3ala2> I meant by fresh that's not I'm upfrading
[13:18] <H|V_3ala2> it's 671
[13:19] <randry> 671?
[13:19] <H|V_3ala2> yea sis mirage 3 671
[13:19] <H|V_3ala2> sorry 672
[13:20] <Caveman> hrmm
[13:20] <Caveman> ok
[13:20] <H|V_3ala2> the cd works on core duo2 laptop
[13:20] <Caveman> well there have been video problems with that model I seem to remember
[13:20] <H|V_3ala2> but not on mine
[13:20] <Caveman> wait let me dig up the thing I was reading the otherday
[13:20] <Caveman> one sec
[13:20] <H|V_3ala2> ok
[13:21] <Caveman> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=808203
[13:22] <H|V_3ala2> ok
[13:22] <H|V_3ala2> I got it
[13:22] <Caveman> yeah looks like that it has problems with that model
[13:22] <Caveman> but I'd suggest maybe try running the text mode installler
[13:22] <Caveman> if you are trying to install
[13:22] <H|V_3ala2> even when I try safemode,,,it doesn't start
[13:22] <Caveman> as it sounds like its getting to a textlogon prompt
[13:22] <H|V_3ala2> yea
[13:22] <Caveman> H|V_3ala2: try the option that says install
[13:23] <Caveman> and then it should ask
[13:23] <Caveman> if it wants' text or gui
[13:23] <Dr_willis_> The live cd may not like the sis card.. it maybe best to install using the alternative installer
[13:23] <Caveman> say text
[13:23] <Caveman> yeah
[13:23] <Caveman> what Dr_willis_ said
[13:23] <Dr_willis_> I dident think the live desktop cd had the text installer.. I think the live-dvd does have both..
[13:23] <H|V_3ala2> hmmm
[13:23] <Caveman> yeah I don't know
[13:23] <Caveman> I don't use the live cd much
[13:24] <Caveman> I normally just use netinstall
[13:24] <Caveman> heh
[13:24] <randry> I have a problem also using wget , Dr_willis , are u familiar with wget?
[13:24] <H|V_3ala2> even when I try to install,,,,on certain step it says faild to start xserver
[13:24] <Caveman> yeah
[13:24] <Caveman> H|V_3ala2: your going to have to get everything installed in textmode
[13:24] <Caveman> and then mess around with the video settings
[13:25] <Caveman> that link I gave should help you with that
[13:25] <H|V_3ala2> aha
[13:25] <H|V_3ala2> or mabe I should just upgrade?
[13:25] <Caveman> yeah you might find the alternative installer disk the way to go
[13:25] <Caveman> that's a text based installler
[13:25] <H|V_3ala2> I mean install 8.04 the upgrade
[13:25] <Dr_willis_> It may be worth trying the 8.10 live cd
[13:26] <Caveman> should allow you to get the OS up and running
[13:26] <Caveman> Dr_willis_: is that out?
[13:26] <H|V_3ala2> 8.04 works
[13:26] <Dr_willis_> Caveman,  its being worked on - due out at end of month
[13:26] <Caveman> Dr_willis_: ohhhhhh right
[13:26] <Caveman> good stuff
[13:26] <Dr_willis_> Caveman,  :) so its oit..b ut not finalized
[13:26] <H|V_3ala2> but 8.04 is boring
[13:26] <randry> Is anyone here familiar with WGEt?
[13:27] <Caveman> randry: depends what you want to do with wget
[13:27] <Caveman> fireway
[13:27] <Caveman> if it know we'll answer
[13:27] <Dr_willis_> wget has some very detailed man pages. :)
[13:27] <H|V_3ala2> u know by the way it's the same error installin the ubuntu 8.10
[13:27] <Dr_willis_> !info kwget
[13:28] <Dr_willis_> bummer.. i know theres a front end or 2 to wget also.
[13:28] <Caveman> blah, wget is better than kwget heh
[13:28] <randry> it says always connecting to campusnet.ac.za and then proxy not found
[13:28] <Caveman> randry: does your network need a proxy server?
[13:28] <Caveman> can you get a direct connection to the server your trying to get to ?
[13:29] <randry> the problem is I'm no longer in this university
[13:29] <manish> what is the repository for KDE 4.1
[13:29] <Caveman> right.
[13:29] <randry> I don't know if I should change something
[13:29] <manish> can somebody tell me please
[13:29] <H|V_3ala2> kde 4.1 rocks
[13:29] <Caveman> so your trying to connect to the server from outside?
[13:30] <randry> yes
[13:30] <Caveman> right
[13:30] <manish> ya HJV but i dont the repositories that i need to enable
[13:30] <Caveman> can you do it in a borwer?
[13:30] <manish> can you please tell me
[13:30] <Caveman> *browser even
[13:31] <Caveman> manish: google? http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-KDE-4-1-On-Ubuntu-8-04-91034.shtml
[13:31] <H|V_3ala2> dunno manish,,,I'm not even able to run a new system runs it
[13:31] <Dr_willis_> !kde4
[13:31] <Dr_willis_> that url tells ya how to install kde4.1
[13:32] <H|V_3ala2> what's the best operating system have ever made?
[13:32] <Dr_willis_> C64 Geos
[13:32] <Dr_willis_> :)
[13:33] <Dr_willis_> the C128 Geos was good also.
[13:33] <H|V_3ala2> bad that I didn't hear about them
[13:33] <H|V_3ala2> windows98sec edtion was nice
[13:33] <Caveman> best os ever made..
[13:33] <Caveman> man that's a hard call
[13:33] <Caveman> I mean its a very personal decision
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> amiga :D
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> hahha
[13:34] <H|V_3ala2> but at least we can say vista is not among them
[13:34] <H|V_3ala2> xD
[13:34] <Dr_willis_> OS's are tools..  some tools are better at some tasks then others.. You dont want to use a claw hammer to drive fence posts.. :)
[13:34] <Caveman> haha yeah
[13:34] <Caveman> although vista is ok on the right hardware
[13:34] <Caveman> just wish they hadn't changed all the m enus
[13:34] <Caveman> server 2008 is kinda cool
[13:34] <Caveman> *loves all those new GPs*
[13:34] <Caveman> but that's another topic
[13:35] <H|V_3ala2> hahaha
[13:35] <H|V_3ala2> some rest to pc'z
[13:35] <H|V_3ala2> or just before som1 hurts his system
[13:36] <H|V_3ala2> xD
[13:36] <Caveman> yeah
[13:36] <H|V_3ala2> what's the longest duration that some system stayed with u before it crashed?
[13:37] <Caveman> and needed a reboot
[13:37] <Caveman> or rebuild?
[13:37] <H|V_3ala2> rebuild
[13:37] <H|V_3ala2> xD
[13:37] <Caveman> ohhh
[13:37] <Caveman> right..
[13:37] <Dr_willis_> ive had 3+mo uptime on some of my home machines..
[13:37] <H|V_3ala2> haha
[13:37] <Caveman> well my current linux desktop install of ubuntu
[13:37] <H|V_3ala2> brb
[13:37] <Caveman> started out ages ago
[13:37] <Caveman> its been through three lots of hardware
[13:37] <Caveman> same install
[13:38] <Caveman> that's probably 3 years worth
[13:38] <Dr_willis_> 1+week is commonplace here.. one month+  a bit rarer.. but some boxs get that.
[13:38] <Caveman> although my windows desktop at work isn't doing badly
[13:38] <compilerwriter> !ssh
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html
[13:38] <Caveman> its up to 2 years
[13:38] <Caveman> without a rebuild
[13:38] <Dr_willis_> Grandson likes to press the prety blue buttons
[13:38] <Caveman> in terms of uptime..
[13:38] <Caveman> I don't keep huge uptimes
[13:38] <Caveman> like ot reboot my boxes from time to time
[13:39] <Dr_willis_> I like to power down.. and clean the dust bunnies out of the box's every other month also
[13:39] <Caveman> but the server that runs my tape library is up to 300 days
[13:39] <Dr_willis_> :)
[13:39] <H|V_3ala2> back
[13:39] <Caveman> Dr_willis_: oh your good! I'm bad with that
[13:39] <Caveman> hahah
[13:39] <H|V_3ala2> 2years r coooooool
[13:39] <Caveman> I tend to pay attention when the fans start making those bad noises
[13:39] <Dr_willis_> I do use a aircompressor.. thats not great on a pc.. :) but that compressed air in a can is too much $$
[13:39] <Caveman> or I get temperature alarts
[13:39] <Caveman> yeah
[13:39] <H|V_3ala2> looool
[13:39] <Dr_willis_> I got a Pomerianian Dog.. he gets fur everywhere
[13:40] <Caveman> I steal the compressed air from work for my clean outs
[13:40] <Caveman> heh
[13:40] <H|V_3ala2> lol
[13:40] <freaky_t> what can i use to read .pdf files in kubuntu? im on intrepid and kpdf doesn't exist
[13:40] <randry> When I was trying to get something using wget it gave me this
[13:40] <JackWinter> hm long shot.  i just deleted some file (by mistake) that i didn't want to lose.  they are not in the trash.  anyway to recover them from a ext3 partition ?
[13:40] <randry> Resolving campusnet.xxx.ac.xx... xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> freaky_t: xpdf
[13:40] <H|V_3ala2> I'm just running a huge fan to cool my pc
[13:40] <randry> Connecting to campusnet.xxx.ac.xx|xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx|:xxxx... connected.
[13:40] <randry> Proxy request sent, awaiting response... 502 Proxy Error ( The ISA Server denied the specified Uniform Resource Locator (URL).  )
[13:40] <randry> 14:38:01 ERROR 502: Proxy Error ( The ISA Server denied the specified Uniform Resource Locator (URL).  ).
[13:40] <freaky_t> ActionParsnip: thank you
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> !pdf | freaky_t
[13:41] <randry> Do i need to change something somewhere
[13:41] <Caveman> randry: sounds like either you have a proxy server on your network that it can't get through
[13:41] <Caveman> or there is one at the remote end
[13:41] <Caveman> does a web browser get to the page?
[13:41] <Caveman> if it does
[13:42] <Caveman> check the proxy settings
[13:42] <Caveman> in the browser
[13:42] <Caveman> and then try those in wget
[13:42] <Caveman> or if your using an isa proxy
[13:42] <Caveman> install the isa client
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> ease up on CR dude
[13:42] <Caveman> and wget will tunnel through it
[13:42] <randry> yes the network have a login and password , but it says this even I when was outside the network
[13:43] <Caveman> randry: can you get to the page from your browser on the machine your running this command on?
[13:43] <randry> let me try
[13:46] <Kage_Jittai> !kget
[13:47] <randry> Caveman I can't it says login as anonymous  ... login incorrect....
[13:48] <randry> Caveman , where can I enter login and password?
[13:48] <Caveman> randry: looks like your going to haveto find a username and passowrd!
[13:48] <Caveman> if you get it working in the browser
[13:48] <Caveman> just replicate those setttings in wget
[13:49] <Caveman> and it should all work )
[13:49] <Caveman> anyway, I'm heading off
[13:49] <randry> I have username and password , but I dont know where can i enter it
[13:50] <randry> setting in wget? where is it ?
[13:55] <BluesKaj> Hoedy
[13:55] <BluesKaj> err howdy :)
[13:56] <randry> Last question : My headphone was not working, and now it works but with a pitch noise
[13:56] <randry> how can i cancel this noise
[13:58] <BluesKaj> randry: pitch noise ?...could you elaborate
[13:58] <H|V_3ala2> disable mic sound
[13:58] <H|V_3ala2> mabe?
[13:59] <manish> what is the file where synaptics db is stored
[13:59] <manish> my synaptic does not open
[13:59] <manish> what should i do
[13:59] <manish> Please help
[13:59] <randry> I have but it still there
[14:00] <manish> please can some body tell where to edit synaptic database
[14:00] <randry> a pitch noise == like beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[14:01] <H|V_3ala2> like a sound commin from magnetic field
[14:01] <randry> I don't know how to call it
[14:01] <H|V_3ala2> that's what I guess
[14:02] <randry> like a radio fm = beeeeeeeee
[14:02] <H|V_3ala2> intresting
[14:02] <H|V_3ala2> haha
[14:03] <randry> I'm not joking
[14:03] <H|V_3ala2> is it ur cellphone?
[14:03] <H|V_3ala2> try to move it and see
[14:03] <randry> cellphone?
[14:03] <randry> move my cellphone?
[14:03] <BluesKaj> feedback H|V_3ala2 ,is prolly right. Mute the mic input
[14:04] <H|V_3ala2> he muted the mic
[14:04] <H|V_3ala2> what u suggest blueskaj?
[14:04] <randry> yes I muted int MIC
[14:04] <nightdragon> damn... wheres a german channel when you need it
[14:05] <H|V_3ala2> there is german chan
[14:05] <H|V_3ala2> try kubuntu-de
[14:05] <BluesKaj> !de | nightdragon
[14:05] <randry> And from  my alsamixer command I don't have headphone volume bar
[14:05] <nightdragon> nice, but i was talking more along the lines of general german conversation :)
[14:05] <H|V_3ala2> haha
[14:06] <randry> both MASTER and PCM control the headphone
[14:06] <H|V_3ala2> hmmmmmmmm
[14:08] <randry> H|V_3ala2 are u kidding me
[14:08] <H|V_3ala2> kiddin ya with what?
[14:09] <randry> the noise stop when i touched the headphone jack
[14:09] <H|V_3ala2> woooooo
[14:09] <nightdragon> its a grounding problem
[14:10] <nightdragon> just FYI
[14:10] <randry> but after 5 s it come again
[14:10] <nightdragon> oh, thats not a grounding problem... most likely its a bad mike
[14:10] <randry> mike?
[14:10] <H|V_3ala2> magnitics sux
[14:10] <H|V_3ala2> he means mic
[14:10] <huydq> hi
[14:10] <nightdragon> some of the "higher end" mikes have a noise cancelation feature where they shut off the mike pickup after 5 seconds... the problem is apparently that you have noise in your line
[14:11] <huydq> I AM VIETNAMESE
[14:11] <huydq> I AM VIETNAMESEhelp me
[14:11] <nightdragon> i would get a power conditioner on your computer (aka surge protector)... that should clear things up
[14:11] <randry> ok
[14:11] <nightdragon> if that doesnt work, you can ususally pick up a low pass filter from radio shack, that would work too
[14:11] <huydq> I WANT TO ACV|TIVE ROOT user ! WHAT DO I DO ?
[14:11] <huydq> I WANT TO ACV|TIVE ROOT user ! WHAT DO I DO ?
[14:11] <huydq> I AM VIETNAMESEhelp me
[14:11] <huydq> I WANT TO ACV|TIVE ROOT user ! WHAT DO I DO ?
[14:11] <nightdragon> huydq: the first thing to do is to stop typing
[14:12] <nightdragon> because when you repeat your lines its annoying
[14:12] <randry> ok
[14:12] <huydq> i have reset password for ROOT user
[14:12] <nightdragon> what you do to get into root is type su
[14:12] <nightdragon> and it will prompt you for your PW
[14:12] <huydq> i have reset password for ROOT user
[14:12] <nightdragon> but be careful because you can do some nasty stuff with root
[14:12] <BluesKaj> !root | huydq
[14:13] <nightdragon> pssh... scripts? how blasse. :-P
[14:13] <nightdragon> i enjoy the finger excercise. :)
[14:13] <H|V_3ala2> HAHA
[14:13] <huydq> thanks !
[14:13] <nightdragon> and you can easily set a root password by logging into single user mode and using passwd
[14:14] <nightdragon> although i doubt huy here would be able to figure that out
[14:14] <||arifaX> I want to use bigmem x86 kernel from debian in my kubuntu (hardy) is it easy going or problematic?? has someone a good link for a howto?
[14:15] <H|V_3ala2> I'm sick of computers
[14:15] <randry> nightdragon how do i cancel this line noise
[14:16] <nightdragon> randry: is it a USB headset? or the old fashioned jack kind?
[14:16] <nightdragon> H|V_3ala2: i vote abacases.
[14:16] <randry> not usb
[14:16] <nightdragon> theres your problem
[14:17] <nightdragon> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080714104355AAwToYq
[14:17] <nightdragon> get your wires from your mic away from any high frequency sources
[14:17] <nightdragon> (like a CRT monitor)
[14:17] <H|V_3ala2> lol
[14:17] <BluesKaj> randry:  are you using a crt screen or lcd ?
[14:17] <nightdragon> or if your cable is shot
[14:17] <nightdragon> your best option is a USB headset though... those things have sound processors in them that block that stuff out good
[14:17] <randry> crt , lcd ?
[14:18] <nightdragon> is the thing big and fat or really thin
[14:18] <nightdragon> your monitor that is, not your mother in law :)
[14:18] <H|V_3ala2> haha,,,he thought I was kidding when I said magnitic field
[14:18] <nightdragon> no that is what it is... electonics 101
[14:19] <randry> ok
[14:19] <randry> but when i touched the jack it stopped
[14:19] <AlephTwo> Any grub wizards here today?
[14:19] <nightdragon> randry: the question is.. is your monitor a really big heavy one, or is it a flat panel?
[14:19] <nightdragon> we need to know this to help you
[14:20] <randry> mp3 player headphone
[14:20] <H|V_3ala2> ok u may try to isolate the end of the wire
[14:20] <nightdragon> oh this is an mp3 player?
[14:21] <randry> I don't know what a monitor is?
[14:21] <H|V_3ala2> it's his pc,,,but he is using mp3 headphone
[14:21] <AlephTwo> monitor = screen = display
[14:21] <nightdragon> randy: its what you are looking at right now as we speak
[14:21] <nightdragon> you are reading my words off of it
[14:21] <randry> no , the headphone
[14:21] <nightdragon> that is called a monitor
[14:22] <nightdragon> a screen... its a tv for your computer
[14:22] <nightdragon> you get my meaning?
[14:22] <randry> ohhh
[14:22] <nightdragon> ...and the lightbulb clicks on :)
[14:22]  * AlephTwo needs a grub guru. Feel free to volunteer =)
[14:22] <randry> monitor = flat = laptop
[14:22] <nightdragon> ok... cool
[14:22] <huydq> hi
[14:22] <nightdragon> in this case... the hum is probably caused by a broken set of headphones
[14:23] <huydq> i want to active ROOT user ? can you help me ?
[14:23] <nightdragon> but it could also be that you have the wire next to your power brick (the thing you use to charge your computer... you plug it into the wall)
[14:23] <AlephTwo> huydq: open a console. Type the following: sudo -s
[14:23] <nightdragon> make sure its kept away from that.
[14:23] <huydq> i changed password for ROOT succesful
[14:23] <randry> but there is no noise when I use it on windows
[14:23] <nightdragon> then its a software problem
[14:24] <nightdragon> go into your volume control
[14:24] <nightdragon> and turn down the volume to your microphone.
[14:24] <nightdragon> and disable "Mic Boost" if its checked
[14:24] <huydq> no, my idea is Logiin with ROOT account at panel login !
[14:24] <nightdragon> that should help
[14:24] <huydq> HELP ME 1
[14:24] <huydq> HELP ME
[14:24] <nightdragon> huydq
[14:24] <huydq> no, my idea is Logiin with ROOT account at panel login !
[14:24] <nightdragon> calm down
[14:24] <nightdragon> you dont DONT want to do that
[14:25] <nightdragon> you never want to run linux with root normally
[14:25] <nightdragon> because that bypasses all of linux's security features
[14:25] <huydq> I Know ! but i want check Account !
[14:25] <nightdragon> what account?
[14:25] <huydq> ROOT
[14:25] <huydq> I want to login with root acc
[14:26] <randry> nightdragon I don't have a volume control for headphone and I have muted mic
[14:26] <AlephTwo> root account is disabled by default
[14:26] <huydq> yes , its disable !
[14:26] <nightdragon> right
[14:26] <huydq> NOw, i want to enable it !
[14:26] <nightdragon> you only want to use root when you need to
[14:26] <nightdragon> because you can do sooo much damage with it
[14:26] <nightdragon> one little command running as root
[14:26] <nightdragon> and your whole computer could be wiped
[14:27] <nightdragon> and unlike windows, you cant recover data that has been deleted with linux
[14:27] <huydq> can you show me, that i do !
[14:27] <huydq> can login with ROOT acc
[14:27] <huydq> Help me !
[14:28] <nightdragon> do you want to be logged in as root while you use your linux? like all the time?
[14:28] <huydq> Can enable ROOT user !
[14:28] <huydq> Ok
[14:28] <huydq> Ok
[14:28] <huydq> Help me !
[14:28] <nightdragon> i'm asking you a question
[14:28] <huydq> Ok, I want to login ROOT at this time ,
[14:29] <nightdragon> àm bạn muốn sử dụng tất cả các gốc thời gian trên máy tính của bạn?
[14:29] <huydq> ua
[14:29] <AlephTwo> huydq: System Settings -> advanced -> login manager <- this should be able to configure root login.
[14:29] <H|V_3ala2> xD
[14:29] <huydq> Bat chuc nang ROOT nhu the nao
[14:29] <randry> ok I give up , I am bored of it
[14:30] <H|V_3ala2> I dun like headphones
[14:30] <nightdragon> lol
[14:30] <H|V_3ala2> I use big speakers
[14:30] <nightdragon> using ROOT in your daily sessions is just a really, really bad idea... you know?
[14:30] <huydq> Uhm
[14:30] <huydq> Ban oi
[14:30] <huydq> cho minh hoi
[14:31] <H|V_3ala2> and huydq,,,,nightdragon was using a transelator
[14:31] <huydq> minh dang muon bat chuc nang ROOT
[14:31] <H|V_3ala2> is that helps?
[14:31] <nightdragon> oh jeez
[14:31] <randry> lol
[14:31] <H|V_3ala2> lol
[14:31] <huydq> I want to login with ROOT
[14:31] <nightdragon> ...lol i dont know vietnamese
[14:31] <H|V_3ala2> see I knew it
[14:31] <nightdragon> huydq: login to WHAT? to bash (The shell?)  or to KDE?
[14:31] <randry> I can speak chinese
[14:32] <nightdragon> i can speak japanese and german
[14:32] <nightdragon> but no viet
[14:32] <H|V_3ala2> I speak english and arabic
[14:32] <randry> viet ,is it like chinese or japanese
[14:32] <nightdragon> nothing like it
[14:33] <randry> i speaks french , matlab,fortran ,C++
[14:33] <H|V_3ala2> they look like each other somtimes
[14:33] <nightdragon> lol
[14:33] <nightdragon> fortran... i bow to you, sir
[14:33] <H|V_3ala2> but the defer in language
[14:33] <H|V_3ala2> lol
[14:33] <nightdragon> i dont know any aincent dead languages myself
[14:33] <H|V_3ala2> hahaha
[14:33] <randry> is fortran a dead language?
[14:33] <nightdragon> only in my dreams
[14:33] <randry> lol
[14:34] <randry> I know some using Pascal
[14:34] <nightdragon> fortran is an evil product of the 50's
[14:34] <randry> *someone
[14:34] <nightdragon> much like buddy holly
[14:34] <AlephTwo> Anybody know how to configure grub with external sata card (2 drives) and internal ide (pri slave). Installing & booting from ide. BIOS reads sata last. Kubuntu reads sata first. I believe it's messing with device.map and menu.lst, but I'm a bit confused as to the details.   :|
[14:34] <nightdragon> pascal is a newb language... try C++ or java
[14:34] <nightdragon> java is a hippe language, but C++... now thats a mans language
[14:34] <randry> fortran is good but it makes life difucult
[14:34] <nightdragon> with all its pointy goodness
[14:35] <nightdragon> theres nothing that can be done in fortran that cant be done in C++ in half the time
[14:35] <nightdragon> except for writing the program on punch cards... you cant do that in C++
[14:36] <H|V_3ala2> I was excited about studying computers
[14:36] <H|V_3ala2> but,,,it gets boring at som point
[14:36] <randry> fortran is good ,
[14:36] <MrKennie> !ot
[14:36] <H|V_3ala2> u feel like u r talkin to a machine
[14:37] <nightdragon> party pooper :-P
[14:37] <H|V_3ala2> and when u try to program somethin it says bad syntax too much
[14:37] <nightdragon> H|V_3ala2:  thats because you are talking to a machine
[14:37] <nightdragon> and for me, it ususally says Segmentation Fault too much
[14:38] <mit> conky + kde4.1 == works well?
[14:38] <H|V_3ala2> that was when I used to run visual basic
[14:38] <MrKennie> please take this conversation elsewhere
[14:38] <randry> nightdragon , if I use wget with a ISA server do i need to change something in .wcget?
[14:38] <nightdragon> what is an ISA server?
[14:38] <nightdragon> !google ISA
[14:38] <nightdragon> :(
[14:38] <H|V_3ala2> haha
[14:39] <randry> a server with username and password
[14:39] <nightdragon> as far as i know, ISA is a bus type thats used on motherboards
[14:39] <H|V_3ala2> see u want it smarter
[14:39] <nightdragon> the bot doesnt seem to do anything useful lol
[14:39] <H|V_3ala2> haha
[14:39] <nightdragon> randry: no, you just provide that with a command line switch
[14:39] <nightdragon> did you RTFM?
[14:39] <MrKennie> did you? this is ot in this channel, please take it to #kubuntu-offtopic
[14:40] <randry> but it says login as anonymous .. login incorrect
[14:40] <H|V_3ala2> wooooo
[14:40] <H|V_3ala2> MrKennie
[14:40] <H|V_3ala2> dun take it seriously
[14:40] <nightdragon>                              one of IPv6, IPv4, or none.
[14:40] <nightdragon>        --user=USER               set both ftp and http user to USER.
[14:40] <nightdragon>        --password=PASS           set both ftp and http password to PASS.
[14:40] <MrKennie> H|V_3ala2: tell that to the ops, it's channel policy
[14:40] <nightdragon> sorry for the bad form
[14:40] <nightdragon> but yeah thats the comand
[14:40] <H|V_3ala2> it's not a governmental place
[14:41] <nightdragon> MrKennie:  not to seem rude, but if you havent noticed i am indeed helping with a legitimate question here.
[14:41] <randry> so is it wget --user=...  --password =... ftp://....?
[14:42] <nightdragon> wget <url> --user=(username) --password=(thepassword)
[14:42] <nightdragon> wget is worthy of worship by the way
[14:42] <randry> ok I will try
[14:42] <nightdragon> just thought you should know that :)
[14:43] <randry> ok
[14:43] <randry> it work fine
[14:43] <nightdragon> good to hear.
[14:43] <randry> thank oy
[14:43] <nightdragon> no problems :)
[14:43]  * nightdragon thinks he is starting to like it here
[14:44] <H|V_3ala2> haha
[14:45] <H|V_3ala2> what everybody does?
[14:46] <randry> nightdragon , it works for inside the network but when I am trying to wget something outside the network it goes to campusnet.xx.xx
[14:46] <randry> Proxy request sent, awaiting response... 502 Proxy Error ( The ISA Server denied the specified Uniform Resource Locator (URL).  )
[14:46] <randry> 15:44:39 ERROR 502: Proxy Error ( The ISA Server denied the specified Uniform Resource Locator (URL).  ).
[14:46] <NightDragon> ouch. Thats because you have some sort of firewall. Contact your system administrator.
[14:46] <NightDragon> unless....
[14:47] <NightDragon>       --proxy-user=USER       set USER as proxy username.
[14:47] <NightDragon>        --proxy-password=PASS   set PASS as proxy password.
[14:47] <NightDragon> try that
[14:47] <NightDragon> if you need a user and pass for your proxy
[14:48] <randry> it s not working
[14:50] <NightDragon> yeah talk to your sys admin then... cause something freaky is going on
[14:50] <randry> campusnet.xx.xx is for my university , and now I'm outside the Unive network, but it still says resolving campusnet.xx.xx
[14:52] <NightDragon> yeah go bitch at them... they'll help you out... i cant because i dont know the details of your lame-ass university network
[14:52] <NightDragon> i mean seriously, what uni has a firewall that restrictive?
[14:52] <NightDragon> thats weak sauce.
[14:52] <randry> ok
[14:52] <randry> thanks
[14:52] <AlephTwo> sounds like my works network
[14:53] <randry> and have u used DC_gui before?
[14:53] <NightDragon> lol
[14:53] <AlephTwo> fscking net-nanny software
[14:53] <randry> lol
[14:53] <H|V_3ala2> haha
[14:53] <NightDragon> nope
[14:53] <randry> why do u laugh
[14:53] <NightDragon> i'm laughing about the work network thing
[14:53] <H|V_3ala2> we don even have wirless network on our university
[14:54] <AlephTwo> Access to site xxx is blocked: Category: reference
[14:54] <AlephTwo> category: pretty-much-anything
[14:54] <H|V_3ala2> just couple of pcs on the library
[14:54] <NightDragon> you should send your boss a hosts file that redircts all of the websites he uses to kiddie porn
[14:54] <AlephTwo> Sod 'em. My adsl is faster than their network anyhow.
[14:54] <randry> H|V_3ala2 where is ur university?
[14:54] <randry> lol
[14:54] <H|V_3ala2> in*****
[14:54] <NightDragon> lol
[14:55] <NightDragon> luckily
[14:55] <H|V_3ala2> egypt
[14:55] <H|V_3ala2> xD
[14:55] <NightDragon> my uni is a Inet2 uni... its freaky fast over here... fastest connection in the state
[14:55] <H|V_3ala2> hehe
[14:55] <randry> u must be joking, Egypt is an advanced country
[14:55] <AlephTwo> Bunch of crappily-locked down windows machines with norton antichrist corporate edition and some dodgy usb-blocking software which hooks badly into win... Useless bunch of cnuts!
[14:56] <H|V_3ala2> that's what they told u
[14:56] <H|V_3ala2> hehe
[14:56] <NightDragon> does egypt follow the sharia?
[14:56] <H|V_3ala2> no,,,they follow rules
[14:56] <H|V_3ala2> law
[14:56] <tekoraik> How to preview thums of videos in dolphin in kde 4.1? Please, who can help-me?
[14:56] <H|V_3ala2> otherwise many bitches would be killed
[14:56] <H|V_3ala2> yxD
[14:56] <NightDragon> aleph: easy way around that. pop in a ubuntu live CD and grab all their files, and then go to your competitor :)
[14:56] <randry> In madagascar the download rate is 100 b /s
[14:57] <NightDragon> well yeah i mean is egypt ruled by islamic law
[14:57] <H|V_3ala2> not islamic
[14:57] <AlephTwo> NightDragon: Funnily enough, I have kubuntu live cd's hanging around the place =) I need them to remove my programs which I wrote, etc...
[14:57] <H|V_3ala2> it's just like the international law
[14:57] <H|V_3ala2> with some modfications
[14:58] <NightDragon> you tell them that their computer science security policy is retarded and i could break it with probably little resisitance
[14:58] <NightDragon> ...and i'm a comp sci student :)
[14:58] <randry> really
[14:58] <H|V_3ala2> kraiky
[14:59] <H|V_3ala2> danger danger
[14:59] <H|V_3ala2> xD
[14:59] <AlephTwo> They leave physical machine next to me, in a secure room (which they can't easily access) and then try to lock it down. sigh. Some people have no idea
[14:59] <tekoraik> How to preview thums of videos in dolphin in kde 4.1?
[14:59] <NightDragon> the general rule of thumb is
[14:59] <NightDragon> if i have physical access to it
[14:59] <NightDragon> i can break it
[14:59] <NightDragon> *break into it
[14:59] <NightDragon> (but i guess the other meaning also applies ;) )
[14:59] <AlephTwo> lol
[15:00] <H|V_3ala2> COOOOOOL
[15:00] <AlephTwo> screwdriver? check. Paperclip? check. Live CD? check. =)
[15:00] <NightDragon> lol
[15:00] <NightDragon> even if its linux
[15:01] <H|V_3ala2> u have intel inside
[15:01] <H|V_3ala2> xD
[15:01] <NightDragon> edit grub to boot up linux into single user mode, do a init 1, do a  passwd, and boom
[15:01] <NightDragon> i just set the root password without knowing it
[15:01] <NightDragon> couldent be easier
[15:01] <NightDragon> ....oh, thats a linux box you say?
[15:01] <NightDragon> well let me get my Ophcrack liveCD out and frak your computer
[15:02] <AlephTwo> boot from cd. sudo -s. mount boot drive. chroot to boot drive. Leave password alone - no traces ;)
[15:02]  * NightDragon likes
[15:02] <AlephTwo> or copy shadow file to usb & hack at leisure from home
[15:03] <NightDragon> mmm... a rlogin session does wonders
[15:06] <H|V_3ala2> any1 heard the news?
[15:06] <AlephTwo> ?
[15:06] <huydq> HI
[15:06] <H|V_3ala2> usa announces its broke
[15:06] <huydq> I want to ENABLE ROOT account . WHAT DO I DO ?
[15:06] <H|V_3ala2> has no mune
[15:07] <huydq> I want to ENABLE ROOT account . WHAT DO I DO ?
[15:07] <NightDragon> oh jeez this guy again?
[15:07] <H|V_3ala2> lol
[15:07] <NightDragon> H|V_3ala2:  we really cant be broke in the traditional sense of the word
[15:07] <NightDragon> since our currency is the defacto currency for world trading
[15:07] <huydq> i have changed password ROOT account and NOW i reset my computer to login with ROOT , but i have no seen ROOT
[15:08] <H|V_3ala2> yea
[15:08] <AlephTwo> huydq: you mean your login screen is not giving you root as a user?
[15:08] <huydq> YES !
[15:08] <H|V_3ala2> usa will claim its mune from the other countries
[15:08] <H|V_3ala2> as saudi arabia
[15:09] <AlephTwo> Then you have to unhide the account from the login options in system settings -> advanced -> login options (or something. No linux in front of me atm)
[15:09] <huydq> i want to see users , example : ROOT , other users .. to choose login !
[15:09] <huydq> Help me !@
[15:10] <huydq> Command to enable ROOT account ???
[15:10] <NightDragon> huydq you need to articulate what is it you need before we can help you
[15:10] <AlephTwo> You have to unhide the root user from the login screen. In system settings (like control panel in windows). Go to advanced and experiment with the login options
[15:11] <rohan> hey.. can anyone help me regarding LVDS in kubuntu.?
[15:11] <huydq> Help Me ?
[15:11] <huydq> ENable ROOT account ?
[15:11] <rohan> ermm?
[15:12] <huydq> i login with simple user , can use "SUDO " command to SU root but i want to see ROOT acc at login panel
[15:12] <huydq> hwlp mw !
[15:13] <AlephTwo> huydq: unhide the root user in login options.
[15:13]  * AlephTwo is booting linux now to talk huydq through the process...
[15:13] <huydq> Ok
[15:13] <AlephTwo> kde3?
[15:14] <huydq> Help ,me
[15:14] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> AlephTwo: what do i run to bring up the kde3 settings dialogue?
[15:14] <rohan> hey... i am using an exterrnal LCd with kubuntu, my GFX is nvidia 8600M GT.. now the LVDS and VGA output is all messed up..
[15:14] <rohan> LVDS is above the VGA and it wont change
[15:15] <juacom99> cuould sombody please help me. I change my file xorg.conf and now my kubuntu is broken.
[15:15] <juacom99> i-m on  the live cd now
[15:15] <AlephTwo> MitsuoDeshoDesho: the system settings program
[15:16] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> eh?
[15:16] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> i doubt its in the menues
[15:16] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> i'm on kde4/1
[15:16] <AlephTwo> the program is called system settings
[15:16] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> .1
[15:16] <AlephTwo> MitsuoDeshoDesho: type: kdesu /usr/lib/kde4/bin//systemsettings
[15:17] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> i need the kde3 one
[15:17] <AlephTwo> huydq: open the system settings panel thingie
[15:17] <AlephTwo> MitsuoDeshoDesho: that'll give you root access to the panels
[15:17] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> eh?
[15:17] <rohan> AlephTwo: Please can u help me. I'm also new to kubuntu.
[15:18] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> well, its simple. i'm using konversation, kde3 app. whenever i click a link lynx comes up. i want to change that
[15:18] <AlephTwo> That's a different thing...
[15:18] <AlephTwo> konversation preferences, I think
[15:19] <amerigo> thank you for Kino i've solved
[15:19] <AlephTwo> huydq: Do you have your system settings or control panel (kde3 equivalent) open?
[15:20] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> AlephTwo, oh, there is browser setting
[15:20] <AlephTwo> you found it?
[15:20] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> yes
[15:20] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> thank you
[15:20] <AlephTwo> np
[15:20] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> last time i changed it on kde3 settings
[15:21] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> for default browser
[15:21] <AlephTwo> I'm new to kde4 myself... You'll probably find that you can also change it there.
[15:21] <rohan> How to succesfully connect to an ext LCD in 8.04
[15:21] <rohan> ?
[15:22] <jmux> randry: try wget --proxy=no or change your /etc/wgetrc or ~/.wgetrc *_proxy entries
[15:22] <huydq> AlephTwo
[15:22] <huydq> AlephTwo: I open KDE 3
[15:22] <huydq> AlephTwo: I open KDE 3
[15:22] <huydq> and i want to enable ROOT user !
[15:22] <AlephTwo> ok. Go to your control panel thing (system settings in the menu, I think. I use kde4 so I can't help with the name)
[15:23] <huydq> Ok , you say continue
[15:23] <huydq> AlephTwo:
[15:23] <AlephTwo> go to the advanced section
[15:23] <huydq> Ok, !
[15:23] <huydq> CONTINUE
[15:23] <stdin> !root
[15:23] <AlephTwo> go to login options
[15:23] <huydq> Ok
[15:24] <huydq> COntinue
[15:24] <stdin> you don't need to enable root, ever
[15:24] <huydq> AlephTwo
[15:24] <AlephTwo> Click on the users tab (I think)
[15:24] <huydq> AlephTwo: continue
[15:24] <huydq> Ok
[15:24] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> stdin, what if you really want to?
[15:24] <AlephTwo> Remember. I'm running kde4, so my things are different
[15:24] <huydq> Ok
[15:24] <AlephTwo> Now you see a list of excluded users?
[15:24] <stdin> MitsuoDeshoDesho: why would you ever want to?
[15:24] <stdin> !supportroot
[15:24] <huydq> I see ROOT , but it is hidden
[15:25] <MitsuoDeshoDesho> stdin, just for the sake of doing so
[15:25] <AlephTwo> So tick it to unhide it
[15:25] <huydq> AlephTwo:
[15:25] <huydq> I see ROOT , but it is hidden
[15:25] <huydq> I see ROOT , but it is hidden
[15:25] <stdin> people often want to enable root because they don't know how to use sudo, teach them how to use sudo and all problems go away
[15:25] <huydq> AlephTwo
[15:25] <AlephTwo> enable the administrator button
[15:25] <AlephTwo> (click = enable)
[15:27] <huydq> AlephTwo: Otherwhile , can you use command to enable ROOT user ?
[15:27]  * AlephTwo is downloading kubuntu 8.04.1 with kde3... Seems less painful that way.
[15:27] <huydq> AlephTwo: Otherwhile , can you use command to enable ROOT user ?
[15:27] <huydq> AlephTwo: Otherwhile , can you use command to enable ROOT user ?
[15:27] <AlephTwo> huydq: ?
[15:27] <AlephTwo> I don't understand your question
[15:27] <stdin> !repeat | huydq
[15:27] <huydq> because, i do not enable
[15:27] <stdin> why do you need to enable root?
[15:28] <AlephTwo> Switch on your administrator (press the administrator button. Bottom right, I think)
[15:28] <huydq> Can YOU use a command to enable ROOT
[15:28] <huydq> AlephTwo
[15:28] <Freku> he is not listening
[15:28] <Freku> pff
[15:28] <Freku> talking to a brick wall
[15:28] <Freku> :)
[15:28] <AlephTwo> You can open a console and type sudo -s
[15:29] <AlephTwo> gives you a root console
[15:29] <stdin> huydq: WHY do YOU want to enable ROOT?
[15:29] <AlephTwo> if you want to open an application as root. Open a console and type in kdesu </full/path/to/program>
[15:29] <huydq> I have prolem when i use user orginar
[15:29] <stdin> AlephTwo: doesn't need to be the full path if it's in the normal path
[15:29] <AlephTwo> If you want to login as root (for whatever reason) then you have to unhide root from login options. You also have to enable the root account
[15:30] <Freku> and that problem is ?
[15:30] <AlephTwo> you sure stdin ? In kde4 I have to give full path to kde4 binaries, even though they are tab-complete
[15:30] <huydq> Ok
[15:30] <huydq> Thanks @!
[15:30] <stdin> AlephTwo: thet aren't in the normal path
[15:30] <stdin> fixed in intrepid btw
[15:30] <AlephTwo> sec.
[15:31] <AlephTwo> my path lists /usr/lib/kde4/bin as first option. Still kdesu can't find them.
[15:31] <AlephTwo> sorry, $PATH
[15:32] <stdin> AlephTwo: it's not a standard path, sudo does not search $PATH, it has a pre-defined secure path. (for security reasons)
[15:32] <AlephTwo> ah. that'd explain that then
[15:47] <bebe> hello
[15:47] <bebe> can someone help me with this ?
[15:47] <bebe> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[15:47] <bebe> See `config.log' for more details.
[15:48] <bebe> i did apt-get install gcc but i received this :
[15:48] <bebe> gcc is already the newest version.
[15:48] <bebe> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[15:49] <jmux> bebe: at least you should apt-get install build-essential
[15:49] <glade88> which package is responsible for theming apps with oxygen theme in kde4.1.2 ?
[15:52] <eml> Hmm I need some help now. For some reason my /home/ partition is apparently full, but du -h /home/ clearly says it takes 16GB of space, and the partition is 42GB big... dcop is acting out too. Any ideas?
[15:53] <AlephTwo> tried du -hsc /home ?
[15:54] <AlephTwo> possibly not recursing into subdirs (not too familiar with du syntax)
[15:54] <JuJuBee> I have 2 (of 14) computers that are acting up.  I have to manually restart nis before nis users can log in after a reboot.  Where can I look to see what the problem is?  /etc/rc1.d ?
[15:57] <david> how do I get libgtk with the new kde4 adept manager? I cant find it. I need gtkmozembed
[15:57] <AlephTwo> check your repositories maybe?
[16:01] <bebe> how to install boost ?
[16:01] <kabo> anyone here using kchmviewer? i only get this message "
[16:01] <kabo> Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:
[16:01] <kabo>  klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'ms-its'.
[16:02] <bebe> does anyone know ?
[16:07] <user6> my keyboard some time don't works
[16:07] <AlephTwo> Wireless? Check batteries. Cabled? Check connection.
[16:08] <user6> without no reason stop to write and i had to restart the system
[16:08] <user6> no ps2
[16:08] <AlephTwo> Did the mouse work?
[16:08] <genii> usb keyboards also sometimes go into power-saving state
[16:08] <user6> normal
[16:08] <AlephTwo> Were you in a shell?
[16:08] <user6> perfectly
[16:09] <user6> go on
[16:09] <AlephTwo> You were in x?
[16:09] <user6> normaly
[16:09] <freefu> aircrack with intel wlan 4965AGN a kernel of 2.6.25 or higher, aircrack-ng (=> RC1), :(
[16:10] <lkjasa> How do I downgrade the KDE 4 remix to KDE 3.5?
[16:11] <user6> AlephTwo: ?
[16:11] <AlephTwo> So you were in X. Typing in a window. Your keyboard stopped for no reason. Yes
[16:11] <AlephTwo> ?
[16:11] <user6> yes
[16:11] <AlephTwo> Ok. Try this. Sometimes worked for me:
[16:11] <user6> system is 8.0
[16:11] <user6> hardy
[16:11] <user6> 8.04
[16:11] <AlephTwo> When the keyboard stops working, highlight some text and paste it into the window you're typing into (highlight = copy)
[16:12] <user6> noooooooooooooooooo, whT YOU SAY??
[16:13] <AlephTwo> That looks suspiciously like your keyboard is broken
[16:13] <user6> yes but for you
[16:14] <user6> canging keyboard problem is solved?
[16:14] <AlephTwo> If your keyboard is frozen. Can you open a new console to type? Or is it frozen for everything?
[16:14] <user6> ok
[16:14] <user6> sorry
[16:14] <user6> ...
[16:14] <AlephTwo> PS2 keyboards cost about 5euro. Beg, borrow or steal one from a friend to try.
[16:14] <AlephTwo> even better, try a usb keyboard (in case your psaux port is broken)
[16:14] <user6> is noo the problem
[16:15] <user6> but it works perfecly for the second pc attacched
[16:15] <user6> usb is better?
[16:15] <AlephTwo> Then your socket (the part which is attached to the pc) is broken maybe? Alternatively, you have the keyboard plugged into the mouse psaux port?
[16:16] <user6> why is i restart system it works?
[16:16] <genii> user6: Perhaps if you have your keyboard attached to two computers at once with perhaps a keyboard/video/mouse switch, this can also explain non-responsiveness
[16:16] <user6> he second is xp
[16:16] <genii> "[11:15] <user6> but it works perfecly for the second pc attacched"
[16:16] <user6> the
[16:17] <user6> yes
[16:17] <AlephTwo> Could be a blocking IO process.
[16:17] <user6> perfectly
[16:17] <user6> infact
[16:17] <AlephTwo> user6: Do you unplug the keyboard and plug it into the XP machine?
[16:18] <user6> no is always attacched with a shitch
[16:18] <AlephTwo> Try unplugging it from the switch and plugging it directly into the computer
[16:18] <user6> always attacched
[16:18] <pim> Hello, my kwin doesn't work propery after rebooting. Is there any way to remove it, and then reinstall it?
[16:18] <AlephTwo> Your switch could be broken on one side
[16:18] <user6> ok
[16:18] <user6> still done
[16:18] <AlephTwo> Or try a usb keyboard (to make sure your connector isn't broken)
[16:18] <user6> done
[16:19] <AlephTwo> done?
[16:19] <user6> yes
[16:19] <AlephTwo> You have plugged the keyboard directly into the ps2 port on your linux pc?
[16:19] <AlephTwo> It is still frozen?
[16:19] <user6> yes
[16:19] <AlephTwo> which question?
[16:19] <user6> both
[16:19] <AlephTwo> Use the mouse to open a console
[16:20] <user6> ok
[16:20] <AlephTwo> try to type into the console
[16:20] <user6> i've also keyboard on the screen
[16:20] <AlephTwo> (if it's still frozen. try resetting the machine. keep the keyboard plugged into the ps2 port directly).
[16:20] <user6> it's ok
[16:21] <AlephTwo> user6: keyboard is ok or keyboard on screen is ok?
[16:21] <user6> already done two times
[16:21] <user6> no screen
[16:21] <AlephTwo> yes, but you haven't done it while the keyboard is plugged into the computer directly
[16:21] <user6> hard keyboard stops to work
[16:22] <AlephTwo> I would recommend a usb keyboard test. I think your ps2 port might be broken
[16:22] <user6> it isn't broken because it works perfectly on xp machine
[16:22] <AlephTwo> not the keyboard plug. the socket which is in the linux pc
[16:22] <user6> ok
[16:25] <genii> AlephTwo: There is also a quirk with some intel usb chipsets that affect ps2 keyboards which needs some kernel switch like usb-handoff which can be to blame. But I think his box is unloading keyboard driver when he has it on xp box
[16:26] <lokpest> kubuntu 8.04 isnt LTS, right?
[16:26] <genii> lokpest: Due to the release schedule of kde vs gnome, yes
[16:26] <AlephTwo> I suspect a dodgy switch myself. If it's 'sparking' mid-switch, it might fry is ps2 port
[16:27] <lokpest> genii: yes as in: yes it is, or yes you are correct?
[16:28] <genii> lokpest: As in you are correct, it is not an LTS
[16:29] <lokpest> ok, then wikipedia is wrong
[16:29] <lokpest> again! ;-)
[16:29] <batti5> hi im batti5, i installed kubuntu interpred ibex beta, all ok but i can`t set the res higher the 1024x768 on my intel 815 card, can anyone help?
[16:29] <Tm_T> !ibex | batti5
[16:30] <pim> Is there anything I should know about before uninstalling kde?
[16:31] <genii> pim: Probably make sure you have some other thing like xfce installed in case it fails horribly
[16:31] <AlephTwo> shell commands =)
[16:31] <jussi01> pim: not much, going for pure gnome?
[16:31] <AlephTwo> bash-howto
[16:31] <pim> no I just want to reinstall it
[16:31] <batti5> but iterpred works good
[16:32] <jussi01> !puregnome | pim
[16:32] <AlephTwo> I'd learn how to use apt from the shell before I did that if I were you.
[16:32] <pim> I've got xfce installed now, how would I start xfce from the command line?
[16:32] <batti5> and  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidVersion has no information about video card
[16:33] <pim> AlephTwo I know my way around apt
[16:33] <AlephTwo> Then a  quick apt-get reinstall kde-base etc. should work fine for you, no?
[16:34] <pim> ah
[16:34] <genii> pim: You should still be able to have login manager like gdm
[16:34] <stdin> batti5: intrepid support only in #ubuntu+1
[16:34] <batti5> in hardy its easy you can select video card & monitor from the settings
[16:34] <batti5> ok
[16:34] <glade88> whats the binary package for konqueror? kdebase?
[16:35] <pim> AlephTwo would doing sudo apt-get purge kde-base in a console now remove my kde base system?
[16:35] <stdin> glade88: 'dpkg -S bin/konqueror' would show you, or "apt-cache showsrc konqueror". but, yes
[16:35] <glade88> stdin: thanks
[16:35] <stdin> pim: why do you need to reinstall kde?
[16:35] <AlephTwo> almost definitely
[16:36] <pim> because it doesn't work quite right when I boot my pc
[16:36] <stdin> and that reinstall command won't work
[16:36] <pim> it doesn't show titlebars
[16:36] <pacheco__> hii
[16:36] <AlephTwo> are you sure that it's not just a preference issue?
[16:36] <stdin> pim: even after alt-f2 -> "kwin --replace" ?
[16:36] <pim> and it insists on starting KDE system monitor and firefox
[16:36] <pim> yes, kwin --replace fixes the issue
[16:37] <stdin> pim: set KDE to start with a blank session
[16:37] <pim> but having to fix it every time I boot isn't exactly ideal
[16:37] <pim> stdin how would I go about doing that?
[16:37]  * genii suspects compiz is running
[16:37]  * pim shakes no
[16:37] <stdin> pim: system settings -> Advanced -> session manager
[16:38] <stdin> set to "Start with an empty session"
[16:38] <glade88> stdin: I have a harmless error (not crash, but just curious about it!)
[16:38] <glade88> stdin: kwin: X Error (error: <unknown>[DAMAGE+0], request: XDamageDestroy[DAMAGE+2], resource: 0x4a003cc)
[16:38] <pim> stdin any command line way of doing that?
[16:38] <AlephTwo> lol
[16:38] <stdin> pim: why can't you use system settings?
[16:39] <pim> I can, but I prefer to use the cli for most things
[16:39] <glade88> stdin: I get it when I do kwin --replace and then, open *any* new window
[16:39] <stdin> glade88: something to do with the X11 libs, so I don't really know. maybe the people in #kde or (more likely) #kde-devel know
[16:40] <glade88> stdin: thanks, is this worth a bug report? or should I ask in #kde-devel first ?
[16:40] <pim> I'll go for a quick init 6 now
[16:41] <stdin> glade88: ask first
[16:41] <stdin> (besides, KDE 3's kwin is dead)
[16:42] <glade88> stdin: I guess the kwin-kde4 is something they made a cocktail with compiz
[16:42] <glade88> it does compositing by default but unlike kde4, it uses compiz
[16:42] <stdin> not exactly, it has some similar features to compiz, but it's not based on compiz
[16:42] <glade88> but actually, I dont really know it kde4.0 also used compiz
[16:43] <glade88> stdin: but why do have compiz running by default then?
[16:43] <stdin> compiz is a window manager, as is kwin
[16:43] <stdin> Gnome has compiz because the gnome window manager (matacity) does not do compositing
[16:43]  * AlephTwo crosses fingers in the (vain) hope that is wifi card comes up without ndisfuckingwrapperconfighell
[16:43] <glade88> well, when I do compiz --replace it has the same effect as kwin --replace
[16:44] <glade88> stdin: thats not true, metacity does a bit in transparency and thumbnail mipmaps
[16:44] <stdin> glade88: I didn't say "transparency", I said "compositing" ;)
[16:44] <stdin> with "compiz --replace" you're telling the compis window manager to replace the currently running one (kwin)
[16:45] <glade88> right, but metacity versions older than hardy did not have transparency and mipmapped thumbnails
[16:45] <JuJuBee> I have a service that is not starting at boot (NIS), how can I fix this?
[16:45] <glade88> metacity has an extra "lighter effects" in gconf since hardy
[16:45] <JuJuBee> do I use update-rc.d ?
[16:46] <glade88> stdin: yes, I know compiz --replace would do that.. but a compiz --help-all will give the exact arguments that kwin --help-all will
[16:46] <glade88> so they are strikingly similar, unlike the kwin in KDE4.0
[16:46] <stdin> exactly the same? that's odd
[16:47] <glade88> a min..
[16:47] <stdin> I don't have compiz installed, so I can't tell
[16:47] <AlephTwo> anybody have a quick & dirty howto for broadcom bcm4306 wireless card?
[16:48] <stdin> !bcm43xx
[16:48] <AlephTwo> cheers
[16:48] <glade88> stdin: maybe I see it now.. compiz calls have been linked to kwin in kde4.1.2 -- the compiz --help-all shows the properties for kwin!!
[16:48] <stdin> glade88: what does "ls -l $(which compiz)" say?
[16:49] <glade88> http://pastebin.com/m30e2edd4
[16:49]  * glade88 checks
[16:49] <glade88> glade@Mean-Machine:~$ ls -l $(which compiz)
[16:49] <glade88> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 10458 2008-10-09 17:16 /usr/bin/compiz
[16:49] <glade88> glade@Mean-Machine:~$
[16:50] <stdin> ahh, I see. "/usr/bin/compiz" is actually a script which checks for compositing support and falls back to kwin/matacity
[16:51] <glade88> so still like kde4.0, its kwin which does all the compositing here..
[16:51] <stdin> no, it sees you don't have compositing so runs 'kwin "$@", which passes all the arguments to kwin, in this case "--help"
[16:51] <glade88> I would rather prefer compiz on my intel GMA950.. which IMHO work *much* smoother..
[16:51] <glade88> stdin: oic
[16:52] <stdin> I remember actually making the change to that script to get it to find kwin now :p
[16:52] <glade88> lol
[16:52] <glade88> stdin: you a MOTU ?
[16:53] <stdin> not exactly, I haven't got around to putting in my motu application yet
[16:53] <stdin> though I have several packages in universe ;)
[16:53] <stdin> and many-a-patch
[16:53] <glade88> nice.. you you're rather, a to-be MOTU ;)
[16:54] <stdin> I'm a MOTP (Master Of The Patches)
[16:54] <stdin> :p
[16:54] <glade88> lol
[16:54] <glade88> is the ccsm for GTK same for KDE ?
[16:54] <stdin> ccsm is only in GTK, but runs in KDE if you have the GTK libs (like firefox)
[16:55] <stdin> compiz is *very* GTK-centric
[16:55] <glade88> right..
[16:58] <glade88> kde 4.1.2 is awesome.. I dumped gnome already :D
[16:59] <stdin> I've used KDE 4 as my primary desktop since KDE 4.0 beta
[17:02] <glade88> is there a plasma widget for controlling screen brightness ?
[17:14] <glade88> whats the command line for KDE window decorator? its not kde-window-decorator..
[17:16] <glade88> oh my.. compiz with kde4.1.2 gives *ugly* mouse cursors
[17:24] <compilerwriter> Blueskaj you in?
[17:24] <compilerwriter>  /who
[17:24] <compilerwriter> Jucato are you around?
[17:37] <apparle> how to select the audio driver in dragon video player
[17:40] <apparle> how to change the sound driver from ALSA to OSS
[17:43] <frozzenfire> hey guys
[17:43] <frozzenfire> i have a question here
[17:43] <frozzenfire> im downloading kubuntu here
[17:43] <apparle> don't waste time, ask right away
[17:43] <frozzenfire> and its downloading an iso file
[17:44] <frozzenfire> do i need to burn that before i install it on ubuntu?
[17:44] <AlephTwo> you have ubuntu installed?
[17:44] <frozzenfire> yes
[17:44] <AlephTwo> Then you can install it from package manager
[17:44] <AlephTwo> directly
[17:45] <frozzenfire> how do i do that? im sorry im really new to linux
[17:45] <AlephTwo> open up adept manager
[17:45] <AlephTwo> or whatever the ubuntu version is
[17:45] <AlephTwo> anybody know the name of the kde meta-package?
[17:46] <frozzenfire> do u mean add and remove program thing?
[17:46] <AlephTwo> yup. look for kde-standard or something like that
[17:46] <AlephTwo> (inside the add/remove programs)
[17:47] <frozzenfire> none for kde standard
[17:47] <AlephTwo> Ask on the #ubuntu forum for the commands to change to kubuntu from ubuntu
[17:47] <frozzenfire> maybe i should update the 400 files that needs to be before doing that huh lol
[17:47] <AlephTwo> or the name of their package manager
[17:47] <frozzenfire> kk gotcha
[17:49] <nliojnio> oi
[17:49] <frozzenfire> synaptic
[17:49] <frozzenfire> thats the package manager name for ubuntu
[17:49] <AlephTwo> run synaptic
[17:50] <frozzenfire> leme find it lol
[17:50] <AlephTwo> look for the kde-standard package (the gnome one is called gnome-standard, so I hope kde is similar ;)
[17:50] <frozzenfire> hope soo lets see how to open this thing ol
[17:51] <AlephTwo> It should ask for your password
[17:52] <dhendu9411> does anyone know how to get kolourpaint to be able to save as a gif?
[17:55] <dhendu9411> hello?
[17:55] <AlephTwo> Not me
[17:56] <AlephTwo> Tried file -> save as & then choose gif from the options box?
[17:56] <rawbin>  Greets. Was trying to build bleeding edge using kdesvn-build and kdebase builds are failing. The logs say :  CLucene/clucene-config.h: No such file or directory. This is on an Ubuntu Hardy machine and the libclucene-dev package is installed. The file in question seems to be at  /usr/lib/CLucene/clucene-config.h while the build is expecting it at /usr/include. What gives ? Thanks.
[18:11] <bobrg20> hi
[18:11] <bobrg20> DCC SEND 123456789012345
[18:11] <bobrg20> hi
[18:11] <bobrg20> DCC SEND 123456789012345
[18:11] <bobrg20> DCC SEND 123456789012345
[18:11] <bobrg20> DCC SEND 123456789012345
[18:11] <Fieldy> thank you.
[18:16] <CPrgmSwR2> Hi
[18:16] <CPrgmSwR2> I am having an issue with sound in intrepid
[18:17] <CPrgmSwR2> I get sound in kde4, but I can't get amaork or juk to play sounds
[18:20] <apparle> CPrgmSwR2: are you using ALSA drivers or OSS drivers??
[18:21] <CPrgmSwR2> How do I find out
[18:22] <CPrgmSwR2> more than likely alsa I would assume
[18:22] <CPrgmSwR2> Does intrepid unstall mp3 support
[18:25] <CPrgmSwR2> http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5530823
[18:25] <CPrgmSwR2> Apparently I am not alone
[18:27] <chfwiggum> CPrgmSwR2: try that : http://forum.vectorlinux.com/index.php?topic=7374.0
[18:27] <||arifaX> I am currently in menuconfig trying to configure a x86 kernel for 4gb memory support. I saw that 4gb is already enabled shall I go to 64gb or do I have to change the vmsplit option. a little help is needed.
[18:28] <apparle> can I request kde4 CDs beforehand
[18:29] <stdin> apparle: https://shipit.kubuntu.org/ will change to intrepid soon, you can then request CDs
[18:30] <CPrgmSwR2> I don't have that settings amarok
[18:30] <stdin> CPrgmSwR2: intrepid support in #ubuntu+1
[18:35] <chfwiggum> CPrgmSwR2: are libxine-misc-plugins and amarok-xine installed?
[18:38] <CPrgmSwR2> amarok-engine-xine was missing
[18:41] <eml> One of my partitions (used for /home) is having some major failures, I can't get it booted and I've remade it twice and tried fixing it and all that jazz. I need some assistance to failseek it, I'm  "limited" to the shell.
[18:41] <AlephTwo> eml: can you mount it manually?
[18:42] <OutoLumo> Hi!
[18:42] <AlephTwo> eml: ?
[18:42] <eml> AlephTwo, Yes, but when the system tries doing so manually it fails, I think it's got something to do with the UUID= stuff in /etc/fstab
[18:42] <OutoLumo> I have a question concerning re-installing the system.
[18:42] <eml> AlephTwo, And thank sbtw, I hadn't even thought of mounting it manually
[18:43] <AlephTwo> I can't remember how to get uuid of your drives. Maybe fdisk -l?
[18:43] <OutoLumo> 1) How can I grab a list of installed packages so that I can easily re-install them? Is there a way to determine the seeders?
[18:44] <eml> AlephTwo, Nope
[18:44] <eml> AlephTwo, Actually that should list partition tables bu tit doesn't
[18:45] <AlephTwo> udevinfo will give you the correct UUID of your drive (if that's been altered in fstab)
[18:45] <AlephTwo> ... maybe =)
[18:46] <eml> AlephTwo, "udevinfo <what>"?
[18:46] <AlephTwo> that's the $$$$ question.
[18:46] <eml> fdisk /dev/sda doesn't work either :-O And for some reason it has assigned my normal IDE-disk to /dev/sda instead of /dev/hda
[18:47] <AlephTwo> You have a sata/ide mix of drives?
[18:47] <eml> Nope, I have one IDE and one external (USB) which is usually /dev/sda
[18:47] <eml> Though I did install it using VMWare, which has never been a problem before
[18:48] <AlephTwo> tune2fs -l /dev/sda1 (or whatever) should give you UUID =)
[18:49] <eml> Ah, thank you
[18:49] <AlephTwo> after that it's making sure your fstab options are all nice n happy
[18:49] <eml> Yep
[18:49] <AlephTwo>  
[18:49] <eml> Let's hope this is the only problem... Likely there's something else wrong since this shouldn't happen. This hard drive is like 7 years old or so =)
[18:49] <AlephTwo> also, you can use ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ to get uuid's =)
[18:50] <lokpest> hmm, just upgraded to Hardy and I have to packages that adept uppdate tells me there are new versions of, but it dont seem to download them
[18:50] <eml> Ah, good to know, thanks again AlephTwo
[18:50] <AlephTwo> I suspect your drive is fsck*d... If you get it going. I'd advice a backup
[18:50] <AlephTwo> *advise
[18:50] <lokpest> err, that was wrong
[18:51] <lokpest> it downloads them, but dont seem to _install_ them
[18:51] <AlephTwo> If the drive is dying. It could be overheating. I hear of some people freezing their drives for a while (in bags, obviously) to put enough life into them to drag the data off. Good luck!
[18:51] <eml> AlephTwo, Well it works fine now
[18:52] <eml> Seems like it's only the partition
[18:52] <OutoLumo> lokpest, using aptitude, press U and G...
[18:52] <AlephTwo> yeah, but a 7-year old drive is going to be on it's way out. I'd recommend a backup =)
[18:52] <eml> True
[18:52] <eml> Everything's bakced up on the external one already
[18:52] <eml> I don't trust this one enough to keep music/whatever/important/stuff on it
[18:53] <AlephTwo> No. Just your home partition ;P
[18:53] <eml> Yep
[18:53] <eml> I don't keep anything of greater importance there :P
[18:54] <AlephTwo> Multi-user machine? Then I bet they store crap in their home folders =)
[18:54] <eml> Nope single-user =)
[18:55] <AlephTwo> then you're fine then =)
[18:55] <eml> Yup
[18:55] <eml> Won't be too bad upgrading to 200gb or so either
[18:55] <AlephTwo> Lucky you. I've got to wrestle with a complaining grub config soon :(
[18:55] <eml> I think this one deservs to rest
[18:55] <eml> :/
[18:55] <AlephTwo> lol
[18:56] <AlephTwo> When you plug a pci sata card & drives into a machine which has ide drive(s) installed. Fun really starts to happen
[18:57] <eml> : D
[18:57] <AlephTwo> The BIOS puts the SATA drives after the IDE chain. Linux puts them before. Grub gets all confused and refuses to play :(
[18:58] <eml> Sounds like something I wouldn't be able to solve nor have the patience to fiddle with :P
[18:59] <AlephTwo> It's basically fiddling with the /boot/grub/device.map and /boot/grub/menu.lst files. It's just a matter of getting the configs right (hopefully)
[18:59] <eml> Alright
[19:00] <AlephTwo> Unfortunately I have to wait for my upgrade-all to finish...
[19:00] <DreadKnight> anyone managed to upgrade from hardy kde4 mix to intrepid?
[19:00] <AlephTwo> Might play some urban terror, methinks
[19:02] <webas> where to make firefox default player and link opener..i cant take it anymore
[19:02] <eml> Ah I used to play urban terror actually
[19:02] <eml> But nowadays drumming takes most of my time
[19:04] <andrei_> всем привет
[19:04] <blunder> hey guys
[19:04] <andrei_> hi
[19:05] <andrei_> how are you
[19:06] <blunder> I am using a 2wire dsl modem and it massively reboots when I attemp to connect to it using kubuntu 8.04
[19:06] <blunder> how are you
[19:07] <DreadKnight> anyone with an Intel GMA 950 under intrepid btw?
[19:08] <blunder> I think I just found a way to remotely reboot 2wire devices
[19:08] <w8tah> in kde4 how do i get the pager to change desktops as i scroll the mouse wheel?
[19:09] <blunder> I am positive that I could reboot every 2wire wireless dsl modem from my notebook
[19:13] <Lokiase> can anyone tell me what "upgrade all" in the adept manager means
[19:14] <lamiaa> hi
[19:15] <lamiaa> there is anyone here?
[19:15] <unitypunk> Lokiase, upgrade all will upgrade all available packages i believe
[19:15] <unitypunk> think of it as batch updater
[19:16] <lamiaa> hi
[19:16] <lamiaa> ji
[19:16] <lamiaa> sdskd
[19:16] <lamiaa> khskh
[19:16] <lamiaa> shjsh
[19:20] <webas> when i connected camera to windows it was automatically detected as removable hdd..why on kubuntu its not so? what to do?
[19:26] <||arifaX> webas: some cameras use special drivers under windows. some have to be configure how they show to the os. for example as hard-drive or camera. maybe a simple change in your camera's setup will help you out!
[19:27] <||arifaX> webas: search for usb setup in your cameras menues
[19:27] <webas> its already in usb mode ye i tried :)
[19:28] <lufthanza> ok, i've installed ubuntu from the base packages (base install and built up from there
[19:28] <lufthanza> i'm having trouble with alsa though
[19:28] <lufthanza> it works and yet it doesn't
[19:29] <||arifaX> webas: well maybe it is just not mounted
[19:29] <DreadKnight> wireless issues fixed in intrepid?
[19:29] <lufthanza> it's not loading snd-hda-intel automatically, and i cannot use alsamixer or kmix to control volumes
[19:29] <webas> its sure mounted how can it be overwise :( i have done it manually :) eh...
[19:30] <lufthanza> when I load snd-hda-intel, i still cannot use kmix or alsamixer for control, and yet, sound works in kde
[19:30] <||arifaX> webas: so what's not working?
[19:31] <webas> my camera ( not web cam ) is not detected as removable hdd as in windows :)
[19:31] <||arifaX> webas: so you cannot access the files or is it just because it is not detected as removable just fixed?
[19:32] <webas> its not deteced at all.. hm..where to look for it..maybe i dont know where to look for it :|
[19:32] <lufthanza> anyone know how to configure alsa properly?
[19:32] <david> hello
[19:32] <||arifaX> webas: you wrote its mounted ? didn't you
[19:33] <Colonel_Panic> Ie
[19:33] <Colonel_Panic> Hy
[19:33] <webas> i mounted manually plugging in usb..but maybe i should go in linux on some hard to get in folder to see all plugged stuff?
[19:34] <artur_> how can i find out my kde version?
[19:34] <||arifaX> webas: when you plug-it in. what does a "dmesg" in a command-window say? (it should says something about /dev/sxx where xx could be a-f or something
[19:35] <Colonel_Panic> Hey all
[19:35] <Colonel_Panic> I'm installing a new hard drive
[19:35] <ared> hi there
[19:35] <Colonel_Panic> But Qtparted won't boot for some reason, so I can't create a partition
[19:36] <Colonel_Panic> I mean
[19:36] <Colonel_Panic> it won't star5t
[19:36] <webas> it fills whole termnal i cant even see the beggining.. :D
[19:36] <Colonel_Panic> The OS boots fine
[19:36] <||arifaX> webas: look at the end
[19:37] <webas> i should plug out floppy cos it takes almost everything + ethernet.. nothing about photocamera sill searching
[19:37] <||arifaX> webas: or repeat and always check the end
[19:37] <bebe> hello
[19:37] <bebe> does anyone has any ideea of this error ?
[19:37] <bebe> FATAL:  invalid value for parameter "work_mem": "-B"
[19:37] <Colonel_Panic> my root partition, an 8.7GB partition,  is 97% full
[19:38] <bebe> i use postgresql
[19:38] <Colonel_Panic> >y /home partition is 426GB and it's pretty full as well
[19:38] <administrateur> salut
[19:38] <administrateur> tlm
[19:38] <Colonel_Panic> I just installed a new internal HDD
[19:38] <Colonel_Panic> a 1TB Seagate
[19:40] <Colonel_Panic> My plan is to create a new storage partition on that volume and move most of my permanent data there, then repartition my old 500MB hard drive to give me a 30GB root partition
[19:41] <Colonel_Panic> My problem is, Qtparted won't start when I try to open it
[19:41] <webas> http://pastie.org/289595.txt
[19:41] <Colonel_Panic> Can anyone help?
[19:42] <webas> ye why you need qtparted ?
[19:42] <Colonel_Panic> I need to create an ext3 partition on my new hard drive
[19:42] <Colonel_Panic> then I need to repartition my old hard drive to create a bigger root partition
[19:43] <||arifaX> webas: did you correctly plug-it out of windows (with the wizard) or just disconnected (caused file system errors)
[19:43] <Colonel_Panic> I might also want to expand my swappartition
[19:43] <webas> this report is while camera is still plugged in :)
[19:43] <Colonel_Panic> is there a better way to do this?
[19:44] <Colonel_Panic> When I make the new partition, do I need to specify it as a /homke partition?
[19:44] <Colonel_Panic> oops /home
[19:44] <webas> use gparted
[19:45] <webas> okay im tired thanks for help..next time gl..
[19:45] <Colonel_Panic> installing gparted now
[19:45] <OutoLumo> Colonel_Panic, no
[19:45] <Colonel_Panic> wait...
[19:46] <Colonel_Panic> gparted ought to already be installed, right? I mean, if I have QTParted...
[19:46] <Colonel_Panic> OutoLumo, what?
[19:47] <OutoLumo> You just make a partition, mount is somewhere (eg /home2), copy /home to it, unmount /home and /home2 and mount the new partition as /home. Then adjust /etc/fstab accordingly
[19:47] <Colonel_Panic> OK first I have to create the partition on this 1TB drive, right?
[19:47] <Colonel_Panic> I use gparted to do that, no?
[19:48] <OutoLumo> that's the idea
[19:48] <Colonel_Panic> OK I'm running gparted now
[19:48] <OutoLumo> use gparted to partition the 1TB disk as you wish.
[19:48] <Colonel_Panic> how long shold it take to detect all my drives?
[19:49] <Colonel_Panic> *should*
[19:49] <OutoLumo> Will you put it all on the new 1TB disk?
[19:49] <Colonel_Panic> OK mit doesn't seem to see my 1TB drive
[19:49] <Colonel_Panic> OK, my long-term plan is this:
[19:50] <Colonel_Panic> I have a server case with 6 hot-swappable drive bays
[19:50] <Colonel_Panic> and one internal drive bay
[19:50] <OutoLumo> ok
[19:50] <Colonel_Panic> the root partition and all the system stuff will reside on the 500MB drive that's in the internal bay
[19:51] <Colonel_Panic> along with documents I'm working on
[19:51] <OutoLumo> Along with swap, I guess?
[19:51] <Colonel_Panic> yes
[19:51] <Colonel_Panic> that's 500MB, plenty of space for working in
[19:51] <Colonel_Panic> the 1TB drive is in the 1st hot-swap bay
[19:51] <OutoLumo> Ok, it seems you want swap, root and homepartitions on that drive
[19:52] <Colonel_Panic> my long-term goal is to create a huge RAID 5 array for all my long-term storage
[19:52] <Colonel_Panic> I don't have anonugh drives to do that at the moment, and I don't have a RAID controller yet, so I'm using this 1TB drive inj the meanwhile
[19:52] <OutoLumo> Where are you going to mount the RAID?
[19:52] <Colonel_Panic> geez my typing sucks today...
[19:53] <Colonel_Panic> OK anyway what I plan to do is, use this drive for the time being, then when I get the RAID controller and more drives, I'll install all of them in the rest of the hot-swappable bayss
[19:54] <Colonel_Panic> transfer all the data from this 1TB drive to the RAID array, then erase this drive and use it as my spare
[19:55] <Colonel_Panic> so in the end I will have a 4TB RAID 5 array plus 1 parity drive and one spare filling all 6 bays
[19:55] <Colonel_Panic> OK?
[19:55] <OutoLumo> Ok, so now you need to detect the TB -disk, partition it as swap, root and home.
[19:55] <OutoLumo> What's your filesystem of choise the root and home, btw?
[19:55] <Colonel_Panic> no, I'm going to use this 1TB drive as storage only. My OS will not reside on the RAID array
[19:56] <OutoLumo> Single-user machine? You might want to mount the RAID under /home
[19:56] <OutoLumo> OK...
[19:56] <Colonel_Panic> I want to detect this 1TB drive, transfer all my permanent data over there, then repartition my 500MB system drive to engarge the root partition and shrink the /home partition
[19:57] <Colonel_Panic> hold on, i left out a step
[19:57] <OutoLumo> In that case: backup everything on the TB, repartition 500MB: grow swap and root, shrink home
[19:57] <Colonel_Panic> I have to detect then CREATE A PARTITION on the 1TB drive, then do all the rest
[19:57] <Colonel_Panic> OK
[19:58] <Colonel_Panic> OK
[19:58] <Colonel_Panic> I think I may have to adjust my BIOS settings to detect this drive
[19:58] <OutoLumo> ok, so the problem is really detecting the disk...
[19:58] <bebe> how to start my postgresql ?
[19:58] <OutoLumo> Is it SATA?
[19:58] <smutje> hi
[19:58] <sorush20> plasma panels are only being added to the top of my screen
[19:58] <bebe> how to start my postgresql ?
[19:59] <smutje> somebody out hohere who can explain me
[19:59] <Colonel_Panic> Oh wait... it already sees the 1TB drive. All I have to do is partition it now.
[19:59] <smutje> how to use virtuell box?
[19:59] <smutje> VirtualBox kernel driver not installed. The vboxdrv kernel module was either not loaded or /dev/vboxdrv was not created for some reason. Please install the virtualbox-ose-modules package for your kernel, e.g. virtualbox-ose-modules-generic..
[19:59] <smutje> VBox status code: -1908 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED).
[19:59] <smutje> Fehlercode:
[19:59] <smutje> 0x80004005
[19:59] <smutje> Komponente:
[19:59] <smutje> Console
[19:59] <smutje> Interface:
[19:59] <smutje> IConsole {1dea5c4b-0753-4193-b909-22330f64ec45}
[19:59] <OutoLumo> Colonel_Panic, ok, you have a go then :-)
[19:59] <smutje> what should i do now ?
[19:59] <Colonel_Panic> I'll create 1 ext3 partition on there
[19:59] <smutje> how to install vm_driver ?
[19:59] <Colonel_Panic> Then transfer all my data there
[20:00] <smutje> please i need help
[20:00] <Colonel_Panic> Should I put my root partition on there as well?
[20:01] <mr---t-> what is the replacement photo editor for f-spot
[20:01] <genii> smutje: Read carefully what you pasted especially about something called virtualbox-ose-modules
[20:02] <smutje> genii thx
[20:02] <bebe> how to start my postgresql ?
[20:02] <Colonel_Panic> should I use an MS-DOS volume label?
[20:03] <DreadKnight> any opera users around?
[20:03] <OutoLumo> I think I't optional
[20:04] <OutoLumo> its
[20:05] <mr---t-> anyone know a good photo editor for kubuntu?
[20:06] <trappist> gimp!
[20:06] <trappist> !gimp
[20:06] <DreadKnight> gimp gimp horay..
[20:06] <DreadKnight> wondering if latest opera still has an IRC client integrated.... haven't used it in a while and i just can't find it around in the interface anymore heh
[20:06] <mr---t-> ok let me try it , I thought it was only for graphics
[20:07] <mr---t-> thanx
[20:07] <trappist> mr---t-: it's great for photos.  it compares decently with photoshop, though most (objective) users would say it's a little less powerful and a little less usable
[20:07] <genii> !cinelerra
[20:07] <PolitikerNEU> I think digikam has some basic photo editing features included
[20:08] <genii> gimp is king however
[20:08] <trappist> you can find plenty of OSS zealots to tell you it blows photoshop out of the water, though
[20:08] <chfwiggum> DreadKnight: yeah that irc client was nice, maybe they have it as a plugin
[20:09] <DreadKnight> chfwiggum: searched for a plugin/widget thingy but no luck..
[20:10] <chfwiggum> DreadKnight: opera is the best browser since years, im too sad i changed to firefox for  no reason
[20:11] <DreadKnight> chfwiggum: same here; want to ditch gtk firefox asap
[20:11] <DreadKnight> i had the 'pure open source
[20:11] <DreadKnight> ' mania
[20:11] <trappist> I still use firefox if only because I can't stand the way opera selects which tab to focus when you close a tab, and last time I checked I couldn't configure it.  oh, and I'm addicted to adblock.
[20:11] <ubuntu> jest jakis polak? :D
[20:11] <trappist> !pl
[20:11] <chfwiggum> DreadKnight: http://www.opera.com/products/desktop/chat/index.dml
[20:12] <ubuntu> #ubuntu.pl
[20:12] <trappist> #ubuntu-pl
[20:12] <Colonel_Panic> for image editiong, I prefer using Photoshop under Wine
[20:12] <Colonel_Panic> only problem is, some of the keyboard shortcuts don't work
[20:12] <mr---t-> trappist: thanks gimp works great
[20:12] <genii> !gimpshop
[20:12]  * genii sips
[20:12] <chfwiggum> trappist: opera had addblock first. was writing my own filters 6 years ago
[20:12] <Colonel_Panic> hmmm... I ought to try gimpshop
[20:13] <Colonel_Panic> @ this point, I only use Gimp for basic stuff
[20:13] <trappist> chfwiggum: yeah I found some solutions, but they all required more work on my part than I was interested in putting out
[20:13] <AdamTech1> how do you do that sip thing genii?
[20:13] <Colonel_Panic> Wine is pretty awesome
[20:13] <genii> /me does something
[20:13] <DreadKnight> chfwiggum: for some reason i can't customize it so i can enable the chat panel, it's greyed out... heh
[20:13] <genii> AdamTech1: See above
[20:14] <thetmx> Hi to everybody.
[20:14] <DreadKnight> chfwiggum: was just browsing that page actually xD ty anyway
[20:14] <Colonel_Panic> I've found that most of the Win apps I used to use will work great under Wine, except you might need to do a little tinkering and configuration first
[20:14] <chfwiggum> DreadKnight: sry i cant help u there, but i made up my mind-tomorrow ill change back to opera again :)
[20:14] <Colonel_Panic> One of the best things I've learned from using Linux is how to solve problems
[20:14] <DreadKnight> chfwiggum: haha
[20:15] <chfwiggum> true
[20:15] <Colonel_Panic> Opera is a fine browser
[20:15] <genii> Colonel_Panic: Thats one of the reasons I love it so much
[20:15] <Colonel_Panic> I wonder when FF will come out woth a multithreaded version
[20:15] <DreadKnight> i encourage open source, but some stuff just remains crap and needs to get deprecated...
[20:15] <thetmx> is there someone who know a channel about Grub installation help?
[20:15] <Colonel_Panic> Opera is fast as hell
[20:15] <genii> I wonder when FF will come out with firefox-qt
[20:16] <DreadKnight> i'm considering chrome
[20:16] <DreadKnight> i don't use adblock anyway
[20:16] <Colonel_Panic> \Fuck Chrome
[20:16] <chfwiggum> DreadKnight: not really
[20:16] <Colonel_Panic> Chrome is very insecure
[20:16] <genii> hehe !language
[20:16] <Colonel_Panic> sorry
[20:16] <Colonel_Panic> Chrome has issues
[20:16] <Colonel_Panic> it's still in beta anyway
[20:16] <DreadKnight> multithreaded, open source, webkit, nicely designed, light weight...
[20:17] <Colonel_Panic> if you're running Linux, why in the world would you want Chrome?
[20:17] <DreadKnight> just no working damn linux version...
[20:17] <DreadKnight> told my reasons
[20:17] <Colonel_Panic> The only idea I like about Chrome is the notion of a "sandbox tab" a.k.a. "porn tab"
[20:17] <Tm_T> ...
[20:18] <DreadKnight> can browse porn without that as well
[20:18] <Colonel_Panic> and maybe the fast Javascript rendering engine
[20:18] <Colonel_Panic> well it's not necessarily for porn you know
[20:19] <DreadKnight> i use a real irc client and have plasmoids on my desktop; giving up on opera heh xD
[20:19] <Colonel_Panic> the idea is that it doesn't accept cookies or use Javascript so you can use it without being tracked or run the risk of getting malware
[20:19] <DreadKnight> just can't manage to get the irc client inside running
[20:19] <DreadKnight> Colonel_Panic: i know what it does
[20:19] <Colonel_Panic> It also doesn't keep history
[20:19] <Colonel_Panic> Well I like that idea
[20:19] <DreadKnight> no malware in linux i guess xD
[20:19] <Colonel_Panic> I haven't run across any
[20:19] <Colonel_Panic> Linux is not 100% secure though
[20:19] <DreadKnight> i know
[20:20] <DreadKnight> but doesn't compares to windoze
[20:20] <Colonel_Panic> anyway, OutoLumo, should I use the MS-DOS volume title, or some other?
[20:20] <DreadKnight> it's so easy to be an administrator for my parents pc's
[20:20] <genii> Thats not even like comparing apples and oranges. It's like trying to compare apples and moon rocks
[20:21] <OutoLumo> Colonel_Panic, I think the volume label is optional for hard disks, but not sure.
[20:21] <Colonel_Panic> OK I'm creating a partition now
[20:22] <Colonel_Panic> It's going to be really nice to have some elbow room on this machine again
[20:22] <chfwiggum> DreadKnight: ok now u got me. i actually installed opera on my old ubuntu box here. ill look out for the client
[20:24] <DreadKnight> chfwiggum: xD no worries man
[20:25] <administrateur> who is french please
[20:25] <administrateur> ?
[20:25] <chfwiggum> DreadKnight: works fine for me, quick install, quick irc access, quite smooth operation
[20:25] <administrateur> ya til des utilisateur francai?
[20:25] <Tm_T> !fr | administrateur
[20:25] <jimmy51_> is there a linux app i can use to try to recover a NTFS volume that's screwing up?
[20:26] <administrateur> thank you
[20:26]  * AdamTech1 does not think so
[20:26] <eddieftw> hey all what is the kde4 kdm package name?
[20:26] <administrateur> sorry i don't understand i speak english very little
[20:27] <shadowhywind> does anyone know how to lock the computer from the console
[20:27] <Tm_T> shadowhywind: KDE3 ?
[20:27] <shadowhywind> kde4
[20:27] <eddieftw> kdm-kde4, got it
[20:28] <shadowhywind> Tm_T: but does it matter? would think the command would be the same
[20:28] <Tm_T> shadowhywind: nope, not the same then
[20:31] <chfwiggum> shadowhywind: maybe this helps :  http://www.debianhelp.org/node/9114
[20:32] <AdamTech1> Is there a way to get your own channel?
[20:33] <Tm_T> AdamTech1: just join, it will be created if there isn't one already
[20:33] <shadowhywind> thanks will look into it
[20:33] <vlad> on unbuntu is there eny way to open windows and unbuntu linux in the same time
[20:34] <AdamTech1> Tm_T: Thanks
[20:34] <mr---t-> genii:  I installed gimpshop with g-debi and now I can't find it
[20:35] <chfwiggum> mr---t-: tried locate gimpshop?
[20:36] <mr---t-> yes no responce
[20:37] <radovich> does anyone have a problem loading pages that contain a lot of flash in firefox? it freezes for a long time. is there a fix?
[20:37] <Colonel_Panic> OutoLumo, I'm considering making this RAID array a FAT32 partition, or maybe even NTFS
[20:37] <Linux-Power> hey will PCI-express video cards not work under kubuntu (linux)?, some guy told me they were commercial cards, not for normal home computer use?
[20:38] <OutoLumo> Colonel_Panic, Fat32 has file size limitations. Why would you want to make NTFS?
[20:39] <OutoLumo> Colonel_Panic, Are you going to access it *directly* from Windows? How about Samba?
[20:39] <Colonel_Panic> to maintain compatibility, should I wish to transfer the array to a Windows machine at some time in the future
[20:39] <Colonel_Panic> Yeah, actually I don't have any kind of defragmentation tools under Linux so I may as well just make it ext3
[20:39] <genii> pong
[20:39] <genii> !pong
[20:39] <genii> Hmm
[20:39] <OutoLumo> ok. In that case I believe NTFS should be better.
[20:39] <genii> Ah, I'm alive!
[20:39] <OutoLumo> XFS?
[20:40] <Colonel_Panic> XFS?
[20:40] <w8tah> can someone tell me how in kubuntu 8.10 to make the mouse wheel change desktops
[20:40] <Colonel_Panic> what's the advantage there?
[20:40] <OutoLumo> Extended File System.
[20:40] <Colonel_Panic> is that different from ext3?
[20:41] <mr---t-> genii: I installed gimpshop with g-debi and now I can't find it
[20:41] <OutoLumo> Well, it was designed for higher end systems
[20:41] <chfwiggum> nobody using reiserfs here?
[20:41] <OutoLumo> Really, servers and RAID systems might find ext -systems limiting
[20:41] <Tm_T> my phone uses ext2
[20:41] <vlad> hi there can i use unbuntu linux and windows in the same time?
[20:41] <bomber_> w8tah:  Go to start--- system settings--- mouse and make change there
[20:42] <Tm_T> !dualboot | vlad
[20:42] <OutoLumo> chfwiggum, I use. I'm getting rid of it.
[20:42] <chfwiggum> vlad: no
[20:42] <chfwiggum> OutoLumo: y?
[20:42] <Tm_T> !vm | vlad
[20:42] <Colonel_Panic> OutoLumo, I've created the partition, now I have to make KDE recognize it. Do I need to edit /etc/fstab?
[20:43] <OutoLumo> chfwiggum, poor support prospects?-)
[20:43] <OutoLumo> Colonel_Panic, that's a good way. But temporarily, it's enough to mount it somewhere
[20:44] <basy> hi, im looking for FTP client that can scan FTP server directory tree and store that into file ...
[20:45] <Colonel_Panic> May as well edit fstab. I'm going to to ve using it on a regular basis.
[20:45] <Colonel_Panic> *to be*
[20:45] <OutoLumo> As for filesystems for RAID, here's a list... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems
[20:47] <OutoLumo> Ok, you still need to mount it as well. Just putting it to fstab wont do that.
[20:48] <Colonel_Panic> what do I need to put in /etc/fstab?
[20:50] <chfwiggum> OutoLumo: a fine link
[20:51] <Tm_T> !fi | OutoLumo
[20:56] <irwinew> salve
[20:57] <irwinew> ??
[20:57] <genii> back
[20:58] <genii> mr---t-: If you had gimp installed already need to remove that since it's 2.4 version and gimpshop linux is 2.2 version. To run gimpshop just issue in terminal/konsole: gimp
[20:58] <OutoLumo> Colonel_Panic, I found this too: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Root-RAID-HOWTO.html :-)
[21:01] <Colonel_Panic> OutoLumo: what do I need to put in /etc/fstab?
[21:02] <OutoLumo> Look at the other entries there... they should gibve
[21:02] <OutoLumo> give a good idea
[21:04] <OutoLumo> auto means that its mounted automatically at boot
[21:05] <Colonel_Panic> all I see in /media/sdb1 is "lost+found"
[21:06] <OutoLumo> Colonel_Panic, Also this might be interesting discussion: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/388
[21:07] <OutoLumo> show me the fstab line
[21:08] <Colonel_Panic> OutoLumo: all I see in /media/sdb1 is "lost+found"
[21:08] <OutoLumo> Try creating a file in there
[21:08] <Colonel_Panic> do I need to create a new directory in there with my username and chmod it to allow access only by myself?:
[21:09] <OutoLumo> that's a good way
[21:12] <lwizardl> hi
[21:12] <lwizardl> whats better to share printers printer hooked to Ubuntu and shared with windows or printer hooked to windows and shared with ubuntu?
[21:15] <vlad> what is the easyest way to instal Flash player?  (tar.gz; .Rpm or Yum ?????
[21:15]  * genii hooks his printer to the switch and uses it from whatever platform
[21:15] <vlad> can enywhone help me ?
[21:17] <trappist> vlad: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[21:18] <vlad> thanks trappist
[21:20]  * _jabba smacks all the people that pm him and disappear
[21:20] <Colonel_Panic> OutoLumo: nothing is showing up in /media
[21:20] <rg535748> I want to install ns2 how do I do that?
[21:20] <OutoLumo> Colonel_Panic, you have mounted it there, right?
[21:20] <vlad> trappist:  can u tell me how do i find .... a website to help me to use better the terminal .... i whant to learn a lot more about linux...  where shod i start?
[21:21] <OutoLumo> Colonel_Panic, with command "mount" ?
[21:21] <Colonel_Panic> I mounted it at/media/sdb1
[21:22] <trappist> vlad: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/
[21:22] <Colonel_Panic> I mean /media/hdb1
[21:23] <Colonel_Panic> wait... no my mistake. it is sdb1
[21:24] <chfwiggum> vlad: most commands http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/cmd/
[21:24] <rg535748> how do I check what version of kubuntu I have?
[21:25] <OutoLumo> Colonel_Panic, and there is no /media/sdb1 ?
[21:26] <OutoLumo> (you could mount it as /media/tera if you wanted)
[21:26] <trappist> vlad: please keep it in the channel
[21:27] <Colonel_Panic> OK it's there
[21:27] <Colonel_Panic> transferring files now
[21:29] <vlad> how can i make my unbuntu look like this?  like cube and stuff like that
[21:29] <rg535748> When I try to build ns2 I get the following error:
[21:29] <rg535748> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot creat
[21:29] <rg535748> e executables.
[21:29] <rg535748> anyone seen this before?
[21:29] <OutoLumo> Colonel_Panic, btw, I have a similar project ahead: I need to repartition my harddisk and just got a external drive for backup.
[21:29] <vlad> i am alowed to put internet adresses in here? in main channel?
[21:30] <vlad> how can i make my unbuntu look like this?   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTHCYjFWqHA  like cube and stuff like that
[21:30] <OutoLumo> Colonel_Panic, the difference is that I plan to reinstall the system partition; I might be forced to wipe the entire disk as well, as I need to reinstall windows as well.
[21:31] <pim> what's the standard all-comprising kde package called?
[21:31] <pim> kde-base right?
[21:32] <OutoLumo> vlad, start here: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/category/compizberyl/
[21:33] <vlad> thanks OutoLumo
[21:33] <OutoLumo> pim, kde ?
[21:33] <pim> nah kdebase
[21:34] <Colonel_Panic> Yeah, if you're reinstalling Windows anyway you may as well reformat the Windows system partition
[21:35] <OutoLumo> pim, sorry, I missed the word "standard" :-P
[21:35] <Colonel_Panic> OutoLumo: I just tried to open a file that I'd copied to the new HDD but I got an error and it wouldn't open
[21:35] <Colonel_Panic> It's an mp3 file and it opens fine on the original hard drive
[21:36] <OutoLumo> SInce the Windows-installer is oblivious of partitions, I either have to repartition the disk from scratch or install it using virtual machine. And since I need to grow root and swap partitions anyway...
[21:37] <OutoLumo> Colonel_Panic, checked the md5 sum?
[21:39] <Colonel_Panic> One sec
[21:42] <nah> hi i need some little help with kubuntu
[21:43] <MrKennie> !ask | nah
[21:43] <nah> i've changed my graphic card to the one in motherboard and now i can't changee screen resolution more than 800x600
[21:44] <OutoLumo> nah, You need to reconfigure X?
[21:44] <OutoLumo> (how was that done again?)
[21:45] <Colonel_Panic> OK how do I check the MD5 sum?
[21:45] <MrKennie> nah: do you know what grpahics card you have?
[21:45] <OutoLumo> Colonel_Panic, to start with, you could check the file size...
[21:45] <Colonel_Panic> yeah those are all right
[21:45] <K1lo> Hi all!
[21:45] <nah> well i tried but after i set keybord it actually dissapear and then i cant even start kde
[21:46] <OutoLumo> Colonel_Panic, then `md5sum filename` should give you the sum of that file. Check the two files and compare sums.
[21:46] <nah> im using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg commend
[21:47] <K1lo> Out of interest, does the beta kubuntu use the ati restricted driver by default?
[21:47] <MrKennie> nah: do you know what grpahics card you have?
[21:47] <OutoLumo> nah, hmm...
[21:47] <K1lo> ati x200m *shudder
[21:47] <OutoLumo> nah, you have checked that the driver is supported?
[21:47] <Colonel_Panic> OK if I copy it to the desktop, it plays fine
[21:47] <K1lo> ok, will figure out how to sort it out - not had much experience with kde. Mostly just used gnome before
[21:48] <nah> nvidia 6150
[21:48] <K1lo> yeah it works under ubuntu
[21:48] <Colonel_Panic> but it won't open directly from the new hard drive
[21:48] <MrKennie> nah: you might get better resolution using the nvidia drivers
[21:48] <K1lo> so I am sure it will work with kubuntu ;P
[21:48] <MrKennie> nah: I had a similar problem with a 6000 series
[21:48] <nah> i had nvidia card before
[21:48] <MrKennie> nah: oh right.
[21:49] <nah> before it broke down:(
[21:49] <nah> it was 7300 and now i have the one in motherboard
[21:49] <MrKennie> nah: is it still using the nvidia driver now?
[21:49] <OutoLumo> Colonel_Panic, you might have an issue with permissions... try softlinking the directory from the desktop :-P
[21:49] <Colonel_Panic> OK I'm going to wait until this other directory finishes copying
[21:50] <Colonel_Panic> maybe that's the cause of it not opening
[21:50] <nah> i think yes... a havnt deinstall anything
[21:50] <MrKennie> nah: in system settings -> Monitor & display and hit the Hardware tab and it should tell you
[21:52] <nah> well it is using the nv drivers
[21:52] <MrKennie> nah: or K -> System -> Hardware Drivers Manager will confimr if you are using it or not.
[21:52] <MrKennie> nah: right
[21:52] <MrKennie> nah: if you go to the Hardware Drivers Manager as above you can install the nvidia drivers and see if that fixes it.
[21:53] <zabbadapp> My computer can't boot from a usbstick with a 8.10beta image (using usbtostick.sh). I have no cds to burn. I can boot into a Knoppix live-cd or a Mythbuntu live-cd. Is it possible to initiate a usb-boot from within those?
[21:54] <MrKennie> !ibex | zabbadapp
[21:56] <zabbadapp> its a 4 year old left over machine I just want to try the beta on ... but ok, out of curiosity -- is it possible to boot like that? or do I need to install a dummy OS first to get a grub menu to maybe select the usb-device.
[21:57] <zabbadapp> (the "can't boot" I mentioned means that the computer seems incapable of booting from usb-sticks, regardless of beta status of the OS on it)
[21:58] <OutoLumo> zabbadapp, hmm...
[21:58] <MrKennie> zabbadapp: can your PC boot from USB?
[21:58] <zabbadapp> apparently, no
[21:58] <genii> zabbadapp: Install debbootstrap onto the usb stick from cd or wherever else. Then chroot there and install whatever.
[21:59] <OutoLumo> zabbadapp, you could mount the stick and try to jailroot from that mounted partition somehow?
[22:00] <zabbadapp> good ideas, I will google about chroot a bit ... else i'll buy some blank cds tomorrow :-(
[22:01] <webas> how can i install diablo2 lod via wine if it tells me to insert another cd and i insert..i press ok..and it doesnt install anymore :)
[22:04] <OutoLumo> zabbadapp, buying cd:s might be faster, using chroot more educating ;-)
[22:07] <nah_> MrKennie i did it and now its finnaly work:) thanks for help
[22:35] <unitypunk> how can i get a remote shell?
[22:44] <fba> hello peoples
[22:47] <freeman192038> hi, someone know where i can find mod_slotlimit package? it's a project that i've found on sourceforge
[23:06] <anethum_a> hi, i am in the process of reinstalling alsa using this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto . i am trying to compile alsa-utils and i am running into a problem. this is what im getting:http://pastebin.com/m2ef929f5
[23:08] <anethum_a> problem occurs at line 103 apparently
[23:09] <anethum_a> "/bin/bash: xmlto: command not found"
[23:12] <anethum_a> any ideas???
[23:13] <lkjasa> anethum_a: try installing xmlto ...
[23:13] <lkjasa> just a guess
[23:15] <anethum_a> umm....forget my question...lol yeah, it helps if i have the xmlto package installed ;)
[23:16] <anethum_a> it helps me sometimes if i write out my problems... ;)
[23:18] <ron_64> where do I find the beta 8.10 kubuntu download for a amd64, the site shows 8.04 kde remix??
[23:20] <mm_202> This may be a stupid question, but why is Kubuntu using 2.6.24[-21], not the latest?  (since 2.6.27 just came out...)
[23:23] <qualified> hay h r u?
[23:26] <qualified> asas
[23:27] <qualified> haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
[23:43] <vlad> heloo there i need some help i whant to open on my linux... Alsow my windows ... enywhone can help me whit that?
[23:44] <vlad> trappist:  are u there?
[23:44] <Guest24534> Hi all, do you know a shell command to unedrstand which RAm is installed on my nitebook?
[23:44] <Guest24534> I need this information because I wanna upgrade my notebook memory!
[23:45] <rhH>  /SQUERY Alis HELP EXAMPLES
[23:45] <giuseppe_> so... anyone
[23:46] <vlad> enywhone knows how i open my windows in my linux?
[23:46] <Flare183> vlad: You mean your windows partition?
[23:46] <vlad> yeah
[23:47] <Flare183> Guest54777: top might help
[23:47] <Flare183> !ntfs | vlad
[23:47] <Under_Wraps> following an experiment with ext2 and LILO, Adept has broken with 'The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem....'  But, Synaptic works, so does apt-get. I've replaced sources.list and reinstalled adept
[23:47] <Under_Wraps> any ideas?
[23:48] <giuseppe_> do you know a shell command to unedrstand which RAm is installed on my nitebook?
[23:48] <giuseppe_> I need this information because I wanna upgrade my notebook memory!
[23:48] <acx> hola
[23:48] <acx> algun español?
[23:49] <acx> como cambio la resolucion de pantalla en kubuntu? no lo encuentro.. soy novatillo
[23:49] <Under_Wraps> giuseppe_: I Goggled for 'ubuntu ram type' and the first reply was very informative :)
[23:49] <Under_Wraps> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=588081
[23:49] <Flare183> !es | acx
[23:50] <acx> thanks
[23:50] <giuseppe_> Under_Wraps: now I try... thanks
[23:50] <Flare183> np
[23:50] <vlad> ubottu and afther i mount it
[23:51] <vlad>  how do i open it?
[23:51] <Flare183> omg
[23:51] <Flare183> !ntfs | vlad
[23:51] <Flare183> do what it says on the link
[23:51] <Flare183> !fuse > vlad