murdoksomeone please triage bug 27526900:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 275269 in firefox-3.0 "x-www-browser doesn't work with firefox 3.0 in intrepid" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27526900:45
mrooneyjames_w: oh hey, congrats on motu!00:54
james_wthanks mrooney00:54
bddebian\o/ james_w00:55
james_whey bddebian00:55
bddebianHeya james_w00:55
bcurtiswxwhat is the java package im supposed to install in intrepid01:00
bcurtiswxi want to play yahoo games for example01:00
bcurtiswxubufox doesn't list any options01:00
mrooneybcurtiswx: perhaps the one in ubuntu-restricted-extras01:04
mrooneyjames_w: will you be at UDS? I need to learn some of your package-foo01:05
james_wmrooney: I will, are you going?01:05
mrooneyjames_w: indeed, I am quite excited!01:06
mrooneyyes, apparently I made the list of worthy community members to Canonical.01:07
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Hobbseeget ready to drink lots of beer :P01:07
bcurtiswxmrooney, thx but that java package doesn't work for some reason01:07
mrooneymaybe I can get Canonical support for eeebotu and add those subscription features, even01:08
mrooneyHobbsee: haha. I will have to try some California wines as well!01:08
Hobbseemrooney: canonical support for an irc bot?  it won't happen.01:09
mrooneyHobbsee: err, I meant Canonical hosting, if that makes any difference01:09
james_wHobbsee: are you going this time?01:09
Hobbseejames_w: yes01:09
Hobbseemrooney: yes, i figured.  Same answer.01:09
james_wHobbsee: excellent01:09
Hobbseemrooney: although, if you get elmo sozzled, it might happen01:09
Hobbseejames_w: yes, it shoudl be fun :)01:10
mrooneyHobbsee: :)01:10
* Hobbsee even has some idea of waht she's going to talk about.01:10
mrooneyIf I could get some sort of proof of concept up of the things bdmurray and I have discussed I bet it could seem valuable enough01:10
mrooneyor, if it actually becomes valuable enough random downtime might convince someone01:11
james_wHobbsee: we should make sure to discuss your brainstorm idea I saw recently01:11
Hobbseejames_w: indeed.  that's what my talk will be on.01:11
mrooneythough, hggdh's hosting seems to have been quite solid so far.01:11
Hobbseejames_w: if you've got thoughts before UDS, that'd be cool to konw.01:11
Hobbseemrooney: i think that happened with ubotu.  no dice.01:11
james_wHobbsee: yeah, I'm not sure, but talking about it at UDS will help.01:12
Hobbseejames_w: i hope so.01:12
Hobbseejames_w: at least i've got a fair idea of what sessions at UDS are like now, so have a better idea on how to run it, than i would have if i'd proposed the same thing a couple of years ago01:13
james_wwhat was the last one that you went to?01:14
RAOFHobbsee: What brainstorm idea?01:27
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HobbseeRAOF: the one about losing developers too quickly, and hwo to stop it01:32
RAOFOh, neat.01:33
telexicondevelopers are leaving?01:44
lfaraonetelexicon: There's a high burn out rate in the core team.01:47
mrooneylfaraone: have you tried cookies?01:48
telexiconi thought they were paid?01:48
bddebianStop the madness... :)01:48
lfaraonemrooney: What?01:48
lfaraonekees: lol.01:48
mrooneysending cookies to developers :)01:48
lfaraone* mrooney01:48
lfaraonetelexicon: Not all of them, just the Canonical ones.01:48
telexiconi thought they were all canonical ones01:49
lfaraonemrooney: Oooh, I want one!01:49
lfaraonetelexicon: Canonical encourages unpaid devels. In fact, most are.01:49
lfaraone(don't quote me)01:49
Hobbseelfaraone: motu, actually01:49
telexiconyeah but debian devs help too01:50
lfaraoneHobbsee: there arn't non-canonical main devels?01:50
HewHi. Is it reasonable to mark bug 127705 as fixed? The bug fix in question has been applied to Ubuntu, but there are a number of other issues and multiple upstream bugs. Should I mark as fixed, and ask for other issues to be opened as new bugs if needed?01:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 127705 in compiz "compiz doesn't "talk" when switching windows" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12770501:51
Hobbseelfaraone: there are lots of them, too.01:53
macolfaraone: what do you think crimsun was?01:53
lfaraonemaco: a core devel.01:54
lfaraonemaco: (I'm just sanity-checking.01:54
macolfaraone: and he was never a Canonical employee01:54
lfaraonemaco: I know, as I said, I'm making sure I understand.01:55
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mrooneybdmurray: bug 28103902:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 281039 in update-manager "update manager hangs after partial distribution upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28103902:12
mrooneydid you already file one, I can't remember?02:12
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ElbrusIn view of bugday I reviewed bug 240860, I NormalizedBugFormat it, can confirm it and just added a link to an upstream bug report. Can it be set to triaged?02:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 240860 in firefox-3.0 "selected radiobuttons are grayed out, so you can not see what you just selected (on/off)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24086002:45
Elbrus^ anybody wants to help me with triaging?03:00
hggdhElbrus, looking into it now03:23
hggdhElbrus, you can set the Importance also. Since it was not set, I put it as low.03:24
Elbrushggdh: I don't have the rights to set the importance...03:31
Elbrushggdh: thanks03:31
* mrooney waves at hggdh04:23
bdmurraymrooney: likely a dup of 28023604:27
bdmurraybug 28023604:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 280236 in update-manager "update-manager --dist-upgrade gets stuck at the end" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28023604:27
mrooneybdmurray: indeed, should it be marked as a duplicate since it is getting stuck at the same step?04:29
bdmurraymrooney: sorry my firefox is being slow04:31
mrooneybdmurray: better file a bug :)04:32
ElbrusI reviewed bug 275396, I NormalizedBugFormat it and I can confirm it. Can somebody set it to triaged and priority low? The duplicate is NO dublicate of this bug and that one should be marked incomplete.04:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 275396 in firefox-3.0 "about: screen wrong version number (1.9.0.x instead of 3.0.x)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27539604:34
bdmurraymrooney: probably a duplicate if the version is the same but using the "cleaning up" phase to determine duplicity isn't that foolproof04:35
mrooneywell it says specifically ldconfig04:36
mrooneywe don't know it got stuck at read(0, precisely, you are right04:36
bdmurray'It happened again, this time after "processing triggers for man-db"'04:36
bdmurrayI'd imagine its a dupicate but it'd probably best to confirm somehow04:38
mrooneyyes, though, is there a way to do that? you can't really duplicate that specific update, other than ask that if it happens again to do an strace and see if the same thing is happening04:39
RAOFmike-solidus: By installing gnome-control-center, and running "gnome-appearance-properties", I'd wager.04:39
bdmurrayElbrus: you can make bug 274656 not a duplicate if you want04:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 274656 in firefox-3.0 "User Agent string incorrect (3.0.3) (dup-of: 275396)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27465604:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 275396 in firefox-3.0 "about: screen wrong version number (1.9.0.x instead of 3.0.x)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27539604:40
bdmurraybug 275396 and bug 279083 are probably related04:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 275396 in firefox-3.0 "about: screen wrong version number (1.9.0.x instead of 3.0.x)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27539604:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 279083 in firefox-3.0 "firefox 3.0.3 on intrepid reports 3.0.1 as user agent" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27908304:43
bdmurrayer, I ment 274656 and 27908304:43
Elbrusbdmurray: I cannot find where to make it NOT a duplicate (maybe I do not have the rights?)04:44
bdmurrayElbrus: click on "Mark as duplicate" when viewing bug 27465604:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 274656 in firefox-3.0 "User Agent string incorrect (3.0.3) (dup-of: 79083)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27465604:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 79083 in python-gd "removal request" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/7908304:46
bdmurrayhmm, that's interesting04:47
bdmurrayoh he, a 2 is missing04:47
Elbrusbdmurray: sorry, I made a mistake04:48
bdmurrayElbrus: that's alright, no worries04:49
Elbrusbdmurray: its fixed now04:49
Elbruscan you remove the duplicate by entering noting in the mark as duplicate box?04:49
bdmurrayElbrus: yes, that's correct04:50
Elbrusbdmurray: what do you think, would some text there help?04:51
Elbrusbdmurray: I mean, ask Launchpad to supply some help text?04:52
bdmurrayI'd imagine its in the works04:52
Elbrusbdmurray: could you set the bug as triaged? And priority low?04:53
bdmurraybut you could look to see if there is a bug at http://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/04:53
Elbrusbdmurray: malone is bug tracker for launchpad?04:59
bdmurraymalone is the old name for the bug tracking component of launchpad05:00
Elbrusah, I see it now05:00
bdmurraylaunchpad does a lot of things ;)05:00
ElbrusI know, I use a PPA05:00
bdmurrayOkay, so that would be a different component of launchpad05:01
bdmurrayI've updated the about: bug05:01
Elbrusbdmurray: thanks05:03
bdmurrayNo problem, thanks for helping out!05:05
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yotuxwant to help but am confused on how to help with bug triage05:47
Elbrusyotux: I had the same feeling recently: just figure out what you think, and if in doubt, just put your question here.06:02
Elbrusyotux: and be polite and complete in your comments to a bug when you mark/triage.06:03
Elbrusyotux: I hope you saw https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage06:04
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thekorngood morning07:41
dholbachgood morning07:57
thekornhi dholbach08:05
dholbachhi thekorn08:05
macohey guys, is there a master bug somewhere for the fact that when you update firefox, it stops working until it's restarted?  i mean, i know that's why it tells you to restart, but i've come across two bug reports about it, and i'm not sure what to do with them08:59
macomake that three09:02
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thekorndbus-send --print-reply --dest=com.leonov.Backend /LeonovBackend com.leonov.Backend.searchTasks dict:string:string:"project","firefox"11:41
thekornupps, sorry, wrong window11:41
Rafikhi all11:59
RafikThe Volume control bar should disappear when you click elsewhere no ?12:00
persiaRafik, Never did that for me.12:09
ograpersia, it did before13:00
ograpersia, that changed upstream in latest gnome sadly13:00
* ogra is quite annoyed by that too, though it helps on mobile where you might need two attemts to match the slider with your finger13:00
persiaogra, Did it?  Hrm.  I remember being frustrated by that *long* ago, and don't remember it going away.  Perhaps just a matter of failing to notice when things work :)13:03
timing_Hello guys, how can I trigger people to fix a bug I submitted 7 months ago?13:51
timing_send them beer?13:52
timing_I mean this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/20904713:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 209047 in linux "Sound did work in 2.6.24-5 but not in 2.6.24-7 till 2.6.24-16" [Undecided,Incomplete]13:52
timing_It's probably very easy to fix, but it seems like there is nobody fixing it13:53
timing_crimsun and ogasawara replied on the byg13:54
timing_crimsun did a 'fix' which wasn13:54
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mbtslomo: Are you there/available?17:25
slomombt: yes17:32
mbtslomo: Hey, have a debugger open and attached currently re: bug 27980017:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 279800 in gstreamer0.10 "GStreamer update (7-Oct-2008, Intrepid) causes Banshee crash" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27980017:32
mbtCurrent debug session is attached to the bug, up to the current gdb prompt anyway.  But I am having some trouble getting the info you requested.17:32
slomombt: one moment please :)17:33
mbtslomo: No problem, thanks for looking! :)17:34
slomombt: so after calling gst_object_get_name(0xblabla) you didn't get a line like $1 = (gchar *) 0x87d7908 "audioconvert0"17:37
slomombt: but instead it just said that the thread exited and banshee was running again?17:37
slomombt: not sure if i asked that already but do you get the same failure when playing the same file in totem? (run totem from a terminal to see if the assertions are hit)17:38
mbtRight.  Apparently it hung waiting for a mutex.  Banshee wasn't completely running, just running enough for the UI to work and not be considered dead by the WM.17:38
mbtDunno, I know that it's random in Banshee, it's not by the file, it just happens.17:38
mbtDoes totem do playlists?17:38
slomoiirc yes17:39
mbtAhh, k.  Well, I can play music there for a little while and see if it crops up that way, too.17:39
mbtAny idea how to get gdb to squeeze out the return value from gst_object_get_name()?17:40
slomombt: ok, if it takes a mutex that's sad :) let's work around that... simply try "print ((GstObject *) 0xblabla)->name"17:40
mbtAlrighty, one sec17:40
slomoand the same way "print ((GstObject *) 0xblabla)->parent", if it's not 0 do "print ((GstObject *) 0xblabla)->parent->name"17:40
mbtslomo: Paydirt!17:41
mbt$3 = (gchar *) 0x7f99c40da430 "proxypad5", $4 = (GstObject *) 0x22458a0, and $5 = (gchar *) 0x7f99c40fe670 "sink" respectively17:42
slomogreat... ok, now even more ugly ;)    "p (char*) g_type_name (((GTypeInstance *)0x22458a0)->g_class->g_type)"17:44
mbtHrm, that one hurt:  $6 = 0xffffffffd10a7a71 <Address 0xffffffffd10a7a71 out of bounds>17:45
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mbtslomo: Don't know if this helps, but every time I try that I get that exact same address... though if I print ((GTypeInstance *)0x22458a0)->g_class->g_type I get 3460259217:49
mbtIs there another way that I can turn that number into a meaningful value?17:50
slomombt: doesn't help, sorry :) no idea what to do now... one moment ;)17:51
mbtslomo: No problem, not in a hurry.  :)17:51
mbtslomo: Am using http://pastebin.com/m7a095f72 to keep the debugging session posted, so I don't spam the bug, fyi...17:52
slomombt: could you run banshee with "GST_DEBUG_NO_COLOR=1 GST_DEBUG=*STATE*:5 banshee &> log" until it crashes and upload the created log somewhere?18:13
mbtslomo: Sure thing.18:27
mbtI'll also go ahead and upload the core file from gdb to the bug18:27
mbtMaybe someone can do a decent post-mortem on it18:27
mbtslomo: Goodness, I hope it crashes soon, lol, this log is growing very quickly18:41
mbtslomo: The attachments from the most recent run are on the LP bug19:10
lycannyc-workhey everyone, i just ran the last update and my gdm doesnt have gnome in the sessions so when i log in it just stays in the brown screen19:13
_Zeus_ah, here we are19:17
_Zeus_what were the updates?19:17
slomombt: thanks19:35
slomombt: i'll take another look tomorrow19:37
slomombt: thanks for your help :)19:37
mbtslomo: No biggie, thank you for yours!  I just hope it's not a difficult fix, lol19:37
slomombt: it will be difficult to fix :P19:37
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