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| filipegarcia | hello | 15:51 |
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| ogra | filipegarcia, so do you know what kind of device it is ? | 15:51 |
| filipegarcia | yes | 15:51 |
| * ogra is currently only familiar with evtouch driven devices | 15:51 | |
| filipegarcia | it's an Lg L1730Sf | 15:51 |
| ogra | can you pastebin your lshal output ? | 15:51 |
| ogra | to paste.ubuntu.com or so | 15:52 |
| filipegarcia | ok | 15:52 |
| bugabundo_work1 | !pastebin | 15:52 |
| ubottu | pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) | 15:52 |
| ogra | ah, looks like people made that model work with evtouch before looks good :) | 15:53 |
| bugabundo_work1 | where are you getting that info, ogra? | 15:53 |
| ogra | google :) | 15:53 |
| bugabundo_work1 | !google ? | 15:53 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about google ? | 15:53 |
| bugabundo_work1 | ehehheeh | 15:53 |
| filipegarcia | lol | 15:53 |
| filipegarcia | i saw a few tutorials about it | 15:54 |
| ogra | all we need now is a proper hal parameter to match against | 15:54 |
| bugabundo_work1 | on another thread remember that 7" laptop I mention? it won't boot from Pen, with u-mobile recent images! it boots fine from generic ubuntu :( | 15:54 |
| filipegarcia | but when i try to change the defenitions in xorg.conf | 15:54 |
| filipegarcia | i have no results | 15:55 |
| ogra | jst get me the lshal output, then we can create a .fdi file from that and lets see :) | 15:55 |
| ogra | bugabundo_work1, wth recent images you mean the daily builds ? | 15:56 |
| bugabundo_work1 | yeah ogra | 15:56 |
| ogra | hmm, that should work though, how does it fail ? | 15:56 |
| filipegarcia | http://paste.ubuntu.com/56015/ | 15:56 |
| bugabundo_work1 | I don't know... it will fail to boot from several pendrives I tried! | 15:56 |
| bugabundo_work1 | orther PCs work fine... | 15:56 |
| bugabundo_work1 | I thaught that laptop was tripping with boot from usb, so I made a new pen image from ubuntu using usb-creator, and was able to boot it just fine... took me while, but it booted... | 15:57 |
| bugabundo_work1 | ogra: it won't even get me to casper/ubiquity | 16:00 |
| ogra | filipegarcia, create a file called: /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-itm.fdi | 16:05 |
| ogra | http://paste.ubuntu.com/56016/ | 16:05 |
| ogra | paste from line two to the end | 16:05 |
| filipegarcia | ok | 16:05 |
| ogra | save the file and reboot, lets see if something hapens with it :) | 16:05 |
| ogra | (and make sure to not have an xorg.conf file ! ) | 16:06 |
| filipegarcia | yeah | 16:06 |
| ogra | or at least no input stuff in it | 16:06 |
| filipegarcia | i remove everything i put there | 16:06 |
| ogra | oh, wait | 16:07 |
| ogra | i pasted the wrong values | 16:07 |
| filipegarcia | ok | 16:08 |
| ogra | http://paste.ubuntu.com/56018/ these numbers are more sane for 7" | 16:08 |
| ogra | it wont be calibrated proerly, even if it works | 16:08 |
| ogra | i assume :) | 16:08 |
| ogra | bugabundo_work1, well, thats weird, since both boot varants simply uses syslinux | 16:08 |
| filipegarcia | rebooting now | 16:09 |
| ogra | *variants | 16:09 |
| bugabundo_work1 | maybe some kind of parameter we need to issue on syslinux? | 16:11 |
| filipegarcia | ogra: i can't see any differences from the previous calibration | 16:11 |
| ogra | well, i was aware that my handrolled image had issues, but the dailies should just work | 16:11 |
| ogra | filipegarcia, but you see events ? | 16:12 |
| filipegarcia | by the way, the axes are switched | 16:12 |
| ogra | i.e. the pointer moves | 16:12 |
| filipegarcia | yes | 16:12 |
| ogra | good | 16:12 |
| ogra | which axes ? horizontal or vertical ? | 16:12 |
| filipegarcia | i guess both | 16:13 |
| ogra | lets try with teh y axis: <merge key="input.x11_options.swapy" type="string">1</merge> | 16:13 |
| filipegarcia | when i go up the pointer moves right | 16:13 |
| ogra | ad that line | 16:13 |
| ogra | *add | 16:13 |
| ogra | sorry, testing that will require some rebooting until we get the basic setup right ... then you can calibrate it | 16:14 |
| ogra | oh and at some point i'd like to see your lshal again to make sure it really uses evtouch now | 16:14 |
| filipegarcia | ok | 16:14 |
| filipegarcia | no problem | 16:15 |
| filipegarcia | so http://paste.ubuntu.com/56021/ | 16:16 |
| filipegarcia | and the axes are still switched | 16:17 |
| ogra | great, evtouch is used .... its only a matter of finding the right options | 16:17 |
| ogra | both ? | 16:17 |
| filipegarcia | yeap | 16:17 |
| filipegarcia | moving up gets the pointer moving right again | 16:18 |
| ogra | <merge key="input.x11_options.rotate" type="string">cw</merge> | 16:18 |
| ogra | try adding that line too | 16:18 |
| filipegarcia | ok | 16:19 |
| filipegarcia | same problem | 16:21 |
| ogra | <merge key="input.x11_options.swapx" type="string">1</merge> | 16:22 |
| ogra | ? | 16:22 |
| ogra | add that too | 16:22 |
| ogra | its really a matter of finding the right combo now | 16:23 |
| filipegarcia | ok | 16:23 |
| filipegarcia | the same | 16:25 |
| filipegarcia | it's wierd though | 16:25 |
| filipegarcia | the point doesn't look like is in the same position every time e put my finger in the same place | 16:26 |
| filipegarcia | pointer | 16:26 |
| filipegarcia | i don't know if i explain myself | 16:28 |
| ogra | yes, thats the broken calibration, though the axis swapping is weird | 16:29 |
| ogra | seems on kernel level its using usbtouchscreen | 16:31 |
| ogra | that has an option: swap_xy | 16:31 |
| ogra | add a line to /etc/modprobe.d/options | 16:31 |
| filipegarcia | upper right corner is ok but upper left corner is down right corner | 16:31 |
| ogra | options usbtouchscreen swap_xy=1 | 16:32 |
| filipegarcia | ok | 16:32 |
| ogra | see if that cchanges the behavior somehow after rebooting | 16:32 |
| lool | persia: Didn't realize we had a release meeting today; usually I get an email :) if you have a list of issues already, that'd be best | 16:34 |
| filipegarcia | it changed to up=down left=right | 16:34 |
| persia | lool, I'm currently only tracking 280014 and the yet unfiled casper change for -mid. I've not reviewed the list of bugs against our packages. Is midbrowser working again? | 16:35 |
| lool | persia: Do you think I can close https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mobile-meta/+bug/274832 at this point, or should I just fix commit it? | 16:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 274832 in mobile-meta "no linux-restricted-modules for lpia flavour" [High,Triaged] | 16:36 |
| lool | I think it's in, so fix released would fit, but didn't verfy myself | 16:36 |
| lool | persia: I think we can now close https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mobile-meta/+bug/274753 | 16:36 |
| persia | Yes, it's Fix Released. I don't know if the fix solves networking on the Q1 (can't test). | 16:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 274753 in mobile-meta "No kernel installed with ubuntu-mobile (dup-of: 274752)" [Undecided,New] | 16:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 274752 in mobile-meta "No kernel installed for ubuntu-mid and ubuntu-mobile flavours" [Critical,Fix released] | 16:36 |
| persia | I just considered that closed as a dup. It can be explicitly closed if you like. | 16:37 |
| ogra | filipegarcia, ok, is that cosistent ? | 16:37 |
| filipegarcia | yes | 16:37 |
| ogra | then drop the three lines we added to the .fdi again | 16:37 |
| filipegarcia | ok | 16:38 |
| ogra | and see if it moves in the right directions | 16:39 |
| ogra | dont care about accuracy yet, thats calibration we'll tackle later | 16:39 |
| ogra | only the axes are intresting | 16:39 |
| filipegarcia | same thing | 16:40 |
| filipegarcia | up=down left=right | 16:40 |
| ogra | hrm | 16:40 |
| ogra | you dropped the three lines ? | 16:40 |
| ogra | and rebooted ? | 16:40 |
| filipegarcia | yea | 16:41 |
| filipegarcia | both | 16:41 |
| ogra | if you add the swapy line again, does anything change ? | 16:42 |
| filipegarcia | will see | 16:42 |
| filipegarcia | same thing | 16:44 |
| lool | persia: Err right, it's a dup; got it from last release meeting's log | 16:45 |
| ogra | still up=down left=right | 16:45 |
| ogra | ? | 16:45 |
| filipegarcia | yeap | 16:45 |
| lool | persia: Looks like all bugs mentionned at last release meeting are fix released, which is nice! | 16:45 |
| ogra | then drop the module option again from /etc/modprobe.d/options | 16:45 |
| ogra | that apparently didnt help | 16:45 |
| lool | persia: So nothing particular to report to release team, apart that we'd like to switch -mid to --automatic mode? | 16:45 |
| filipegarcia | well now is ip=down | 16:45 |
| filipegarcia | before that was up=right | 16:46 |
| persia | Well, we'd like to switch to --automatic mode *after* we sort 280014. That's it for me, but I've only been playing with the installer, and haven't done much usage testing. | 16:46 |
| ogra | right, so drop the module setting, and add the rotate line back | 16:46 |
| ogra | that should keep the axes correct, but rotate clockwise | 16:46 |
| filipegarcia | and still keep the swapy ?? | 16:47 |
| ogra | no, drop all swap things | 16:48 |
| ogra | only keep the rotate | 16:48 |
| filipegarcia | ok | 16:48 |
| persia | lool, Have you been using -mid? Do you know if we've any other showstoppers? | 16:48 |
| filipegarcia | and now up=right | 16:49 |
| lool | persia: I can't think of any | 16:49 |
| ogra | filipegarcia, and right ? | 16:50 |
| lool | persia: jax10 is poorly supported, but I think that's acceptable, and I need to retest with lrm | 16:50 |
| filipegarcia | right=up | 16:50 |
| persia | lool, OK. Then I think we're good. There might be issues with testing, but as RC is really our first big round of testing, that's only to be expected. | 16:50 |
| ogra | weird | 16:50 |
| persia | Yeah. D4 too :( | 16:50 |
| ogra | so down = left, left = down i guess | 16:51 |
| filipegarcia | yes | 16:51 |
| * ogra tries to imagine what filipegarcia is seeing :) | 16:51 | |
| ogra | my brain melts :) | 16:51 |
| filipegarcia | lol | 16:51 |
| ogra | change "cw" to "ccw" in the rotate line | 16:52 |
| filipegarcia | ok | 16:52 |
| persia | lool, 281100 is probably interesting to you, but already on the list. | 16:52 |
| filipegarcia | same thing | 16:53 |
| filipegarcia | up=right | 16:53 |
| filipegarcia | down=left | 16:53 |
| ogra | hrm | 16:55 |
| ogra | can i see your current lshal again = | 16:55 |
| ogra | ? | 16:55 |
| filipegarcia | shure | 16:55 |
| filipegarcia | http://paste.ubuntu.com/56027/ | 16:57 |
| bugabundo_work1 | you guys still at it ?? uau | 16:58 |
| * ogra wonders why the rotate doesnt do anything at all | 16:58 | |
| ogra | ccw should have reversed the cw behavior | 16:59 |
| bugabundo_work1 | guys good luck. let me know how it goes. | 16:59 |
| bugabundo_work1 | time for me to go | 16:59 |
| bugabundo_work1 | [[]] | 16:59 |
| filipegarcia | can i try the rotation in the modprobe ? | 17:00 |
| bugabundo_work1 | The Purple 8 Ball says: It's possible | 17:00 |
| ogra | nope, the kernel driver doesnt have a rotate option | 17:00 |
| ogra | oh, wait ! | 17:00 |
| filipegarcia | bugabundo_work1: ok, and again. thank you | 17:00 |
| ogra | you might need to capitalize the CW or CCW | 17:00 |
| ogra | try that | 17:00 |
| filipegarcia | ok | 17:00 |
| ogra | big letters :) | 17:00 |
| bugabundo_work1 | The Purple 8 Ball says: It's possible | 17:00 |
| filipegarcia | i put CW and is now up=right so changed to CCW | 17:02 |
| filipegarcia | but | 17:03 |
| filipegarcia | same thing | 17:03 |
| ogra | still up=right ? | 17:04 |
| filipegarcia | yes | 17:04 |
| filipegarcia | with CW and CCW | 17:06 |
| * ogra looks at the driver code | 17:07 | |
| filipegarcia | i didn't thought that this gave so many work | 17:09 |
| ogra | so the code definately looks for capitalized CW/CCW | 17:10 |
| ogra | try to make : rotate being Rotate | 17:11 |
| ogra | in the .fdi file | 17:11 |
| ogra | with a big R | 17:11 |
| filipegarcia | ok | 17:11 |
| ogra | so i doubt that will change a thing | 17:13 |
| filipegarcia | by the way, what's the difference between using the fdi and the xorg.conf ?? | 17:13 |
| filipegarcia | yeah same thing | 17:13 |
| filipegarcia | up=right | 17:14 |
| ogra | xorg.conf mostly ignores input settings by default nowadays, and the new calibration tool uses hal | 17:15 |
| filipegarcia | ok | 17:15 |
| ogra | but it looks to me like the rotation isnt respected at all | 17:16 |
| ogra | which is weird, since i find it in all documents for that device | 17:16 |
| ogra | and it looks like its being used in the code as well | 17:16 |
| ogra | if you add the swapX (not Y) how does it change ? | 17:18 |
| ogra | (leave CW in) | 17:18 |
| filipegarcia | in others tutorials the where using rotate cw and swapy =1 | 17:18 |
| filipegarcia | will try that | 17:18 |
| ogra | yes, we tried that first "rotate cw and swapy =1 " :) | 17:19 |
| ogra | bt you said it didnt change the axes | 17:19 |
| filipegarcia | yeap | 17:19 |
| filipegarcia | can it be because swapy is not swapY ? | 17:20 |
| ogra | shouldnt, but try it | 17:20 |
| filipegarcia | ok | 17:20 |
| ogra | it shouldnt make any difference if the variables are capitalized or not | 17:21 |
| ogra | for the values it might though | 17:21 |
| ogra | but try it, you have the device :) | 17:22 |
| ogra | i cant help much apart from giving you the options ... | 17:23 |
| filipegarcia | well | 17:23 |
| filipegarcia | swapX and swapY is the same | 17:23 |
| filipegarcia | up=right | 17:23 |
| filipegarcia | down=left | 17:23 |
| ogra | try them capitalized | 17:24 |
| ogra | SwapX or SwapY | 17:24 |
| filipegarcia | ohh | 17:24 |
| filipegarcia | ok | 17:24 |
| ogra | but i doubt it will change a thing | 17:25 |
| filipegarcia | so swapy=Swapy=SwapY=swapY | 17:30 |
| filipegarcia | also with the X | 17:30 |
| filipegarcia | the same | 17:30 |
| filipegarcia | up=right | 17:30 |
| ogra | and left right didnt change either ? | 17:30 |
| filipegarcia | nop | 17:31 |
| ogra | i'm out of ideas :( | 17:35 |
| ogra | the rotate option should definately have an effect ... it doesnt though | 17:36 |
| filipegarcia | this guy is using the same monitor | 17:36 |
| filipegarcia | http://ihc.silverskar.se/2007/10/making-l1730sf-touchscreen-work-on.html | 17:36 |
| filipegarcia | but i guess is an older ubuntu version | 17:36 |
| ogra | well, thats what i was looking at first :) | 17:37 |
| filipegarcia | yeah | 17:37 |
| ogra | Option "MinX" "295" | 17:37 |
| ogra | Option "MinY" "200" | 17:37 |
| ogra | Option "MaxX" "3815" | 17:37 |
| ogra | Option "MaxY" "3948" | 17:37 |
| ogra | Option "ReportingMode" "Raw" | 17:37 |
| ogra | Option "Emulate3Buttons" | 17:37 |
| ogra | Option "Emulate3Timeout" "50" | 17:37 |
| ogra | Option "SendCoreEvents" "On" | 17:37 |
| ogra | Option "Rotate" "cw" | 17:37 |
| ogra | Option "SwapY" "1" | 17:37 |
| ogra | and we did set all these values exactly the same way | 17:37 |
| ogra | and apparently your lshal output reflects it | 17:38 |
| filipegarcia | yes | 17:38 |
| ogra | the prob is that the rotate is ignored | 17:38 |
| filipegarcia | in my lshal it talk about usbtouchscreen driver | 17:39 |
| ogra | yes | 17:39 |
| filipegarcia | is it normal | 17:39 |
| ogra | alias: mtouchusb | 17:39 |
| ogra | alias: itmtouch | 17:39 |
| ogra | alias: touchkitusb | 17:39 |
| ogra | thats what modinfo usbtouchscreen reports | 17:39 |
| ogra | itmtouch is included in it, which is what your touchscreen uses | 17:40 |
| ogra | and at least the swap_xy parameter worked | 17:40 |
| ogra | so the kernel driver is correct | 17:40 |
| filipegarcia | i see | 17:40 |
| ogra | can you for laughs run the calibration tool and see what it does with your axes ? | 17:44 |
| ogra | its in System->Administration | 17:44 |
| ogra | the code seems to forcefully ignore rotate in calibration mode, i wonder if it behaves different | 17:45 |
| filipegarcia | i try before the touchcal | 17:45 |
| filipegarcia | but i have nothing in system->admin | 17:45 |
| ogra | you are on the ubuntu-mobile image, right ? | 17:46 |
| filipegarcia | no | 17:46 |
| ogra | erm | 17:46 |
| filipegarcia | :$ | 17:46 |
| filipegarcia | sorry | 17:47 |
| ogra | but you are on intrepid ? | 17:47 |
| filipegarcia | in ubuntu 8.04 LTS | 17:47 |
| ogra | gah | 17:47 |
| ogra | well, then all we did cant work | 17:47 |
| ogra | the new calibration tool and hal input stuff is only in intrepid | 17:47 |
| ogra | sigh, i should have asked that first ... sily me | 17:48 |
| persia | at least it makes sense now :) | 17:48 |
| filipegarcia | i told to bugabundo that | 17:48 |
| filipegarcia | i should told to you also | 17:48 |
| ogra | persia, yeah, after 3h :P | 17:48 |
| filipegarcia | sorry | 17:48 |
| ogra | nah, my fault | 17:48 |
| ogra | i sholdnt make assumptions :) | 17:48 |
| ogra | especially not while supporting people | 17:49 |
| filipegarcia | specially people that don't understand a thing you are supporting | 17:49 |
| filipegarcia | what you are supporting | 17:50 |
| ogra | intrepid :) | 17:50 |
| ogra | (8.10) | 17:50 |
| filipegarcia | should i try that? | 17:50 |
| ogra | only that has the hal-input fixes and new evtouch calibration | 17:50 |
| Celtiore | hi from france | 17:50 |
| Celtiore | nothing new about aigo p8860 or compal jax10 about touchscreen ? | 17:51 |
| ogra | filipegarcia, if you like to :) 8.10 will release end of the month and is largely stable | 17:51 |
| filipegarcia | ok | 17:51 |
| persia | Celtiore, I think it's still not working :( You might try the latest daily, but I think there's a driver issue. | 17:51 |
| ogra | yeah, no free driver for the touchscreen | 17:52 |
| * ogra would love a jax10 to actually poke on that | 17:52 | |
| Celtiore | i see | 17:52 |
| filipegarcia | well the work day is over now. will download in the weekend and on monday will tell you something | 17:53 |
| filipegarcia | thank so much for you time ogra | 17:53 |
| Celtiore | persia, can you give me the weblink for the daily build ? | 17:53 |
| Celtiore | i don't have save it | 17:53 |
| persia | Celtiore, /topic | 17:53 |
| Celtiore | lol | 17:54 |
| Celtiore | thanks you | 17:54 |
| ogra | filipegarcia, well, thanks for the lshal data, i can at least add a file for your device to intrepid | 17:54 |
| ogra | filipegarcia, and indeed feedback for intrepid is appreciated ;) | 17:54 |
| Celtiore | i need mid or mobile ? for aigo p8860 ? :p | 17:54 |
| filipegarcia | ok | 17:55 |
| filipegarcia | you will hear from me again on monday :) | 17:55 |
| filipegarcia | thank you | 17:55 |
| ogra | cool, thanks :) | 17:56 |
| persia | Celtiore, I'd recommend -mid for the Aigo, but you might like -mobile. | 18:00 |
| Celtiore | ok thanks you | 18:13 |
| Celtiore | persia, mid img : fatal server error / no screens found ! | 18:28 |
| persia | Yeah, it doesn't support the pouslbo video chipset. Unfortunately, the drivers don't work with the intrepid version of X. | 18:29 |
| Celtiore | lol | 18:30 |
| persia | You can force it to use the vesa driver. One way to do that is to add 'Driver "vesa"' to the display device setting in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. | 18:30 |
| Celtiore | i'm very lucky | 18:30 |
| Celtiore | touchscreen driver closed | 18:30 |
| persia | You can get there with Alt-F2, and stop it switching back to the error with `sudo stop session` | 18:30 |
| Celtiore | thanks you i try later | 18:31 |
| persia | Once you've editing xorg.conf, you can use `sudo start session` to bring up the desktop. I have to do the same on my D4 :( | 18:31 |
| Celtiore | thanks you | 18:31 |
| persia | Celtiore, No, thanks for helping test. You're one of the primary testers on real hardware at this point, as not too many people have MIDs on which Ubuntu can be installed. | 18:33 |
| * ogra hopes Celtiore at least paid a decent price :P | 18:34 | |
| ogra | but by own experience the non working HW is usually the most expensive :) | 18:34 |
| persia | ogra, Unfortunately commonly. Mine was cheap, but it came with strings. | 18:36 |
| Celtiore | persia, working, wrong resolution but working | 19:10 |
| Celtiore | i have another question | 19:10 |
| Celtiore | where is the application who display all the icons on the desktop ? | 19:10 |
| persia | What's that? | 19:10 |
| persia | It's called kourou. | 19:11 |
| Celtiore | thanks you | 19:13 |
| Nanojit | Is there something like a changelog for the ubuntu mobile images? | 22:13 |
| persia | Nanojit, Not really. There are changelogs for the individual packages, but the daily images are just snapshots of the archive state at the same time every day. | 22:14 |
| Nanojit | Ok... | 22:15 |
| persia | Nanojit, Are you looking for something specific? | 22:15 |
| persia | Or just a list of changes on a regular basis? | 22:15 |
| Nanojit | persia, Nope.. Just wanted to know if there was some kind of changelog with highlights from one snapshot to the other. | 22:16 |
| persia | No. There's the intrepid-changes list that describes all the changes happening to intrepid over time, but nothing flavour-specific. | 22:17 |
| Nanojit | What's that list's url? | 22:18 |
| persia | https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Intrepid-changes | 22:18 |
| Nanojit | Thanks. | 22:19 |
| persia | Be warned, it's not exactly a low-traffic list. Set up your filter *before* you subscribe. | 22:19 |
| persia | (well, some days it's low traffic, but sometimes you'll get 100 emails in 5 minutes) | 22:19 |
| Nanojit | I'll just browse the online archives. :p | 22:20 |
| persia | Nanojit, That works :) | 22:22 |
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