[00:00] oh [00:00] this client sucks [00:18] <[Solars]> heh i hate bx [00:58] I reading an article in Linux Magazine all about webmin and how it works with ubuntu, if anyone was interested. [00:58] !webmin [00:58] webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead. [00:58] !otherwaystoinstallcrapthatdontinvolveapt [00:58] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [01:03] <[Solars]> stainer lies! [01:06] sometimes you can get stuff that aren't even .deb packages. Some people will even install stuff from source, and God forbid, compile their own kernel. [01:06] hippies [01:08] <-- free thinker [01:08] <[Solars]> i remember when you were forced to compile my own kernels [01:08] on a 386 with 640k of ram [01:09] and it took several hours [01:10] or at least it seemed [01:10] :) [01:13] <[Solars]> erm mine always took over an hour [01:13] <[Solars]> i still have a set of old slackware floppies [01:14] hahaha [01:20] kirkland: just wanted to say you do good work... don't let the haters get you down :) [02:38] If a folder has the owner "root" and the group "escrow". Both have Read and Write access. If user "steven" is in group escrow, should he be able to edit that folder and the stuff inside or would I also need to have "root" added to the group "escrow"? === PrivateVoid_ is now known as PrivateVoid === mathiaz_ is now known as mathiaz [03:37] Redixe_home: Your question still current? [03:37] Redixe_home: Yes, if the user is in the group and the group has permissions, then the user will have those permissions [03:37] The user root can do anything anyway, so root doesn't need to be in the escrow group [03:38] I wish I could be root in real life. Then i wouldn't have to pay bills and stuff. rm -rf /bills === Jell1 is now known as crus1 === crus1 is now known as javaperl [05:25] hello i want to know how i can add another internal hardrive to my ubuntu server setup [05:33] Leading question Thorsten11, you mean how to physically add it or how to get it detected in the OS? === freaky[t] is now known as fReAkY[t] [05:51] how to get it detected in the OS [05:53] i am wanted to add more hd space on my server without swapping hd's. I just wanted to know if add a second hd was easy enough === fReAkY[t] is now known as freaky[t] [05:58] wow my english was horrible there and its my primary tongue lol [05:58] =p [06:03] Thorsten11: shove it in there and it'll be detected [06:03] (within reason) [06:04] lol great thanks [06:04] thats all i needed to hear [06:05] Heh, Ubuntu recognises my 320GB drive but my BIOS says it's 137GB... given, it's a P3 [06:19] kirkland: I've tested the latest -server iso. virtio network seems to work [06:19] mathiaz: thanks, i did too [06:19] mathiaz: i was going to confirm what i saw with you tomorrow [06:20] kirkland: there has been another commit to the kernel tree [06:20] mathiaz: there's still an issue with the disk [06:20] mathiaz: we're closer [06:20] mathiaz: there's something wrong with the bootloader installation [06:20] kirkland: that has not been uploaded yet [06:20] kirkland: so we should plan to test again this configuration once the kernel is updated or d-i [06:20] mathiaz: k [06:20] kirkland: right - I haven't looked into the virtio block issue [06:21] kirkland: it's not a regression though. [06:21] mathiaz: i'm going to spend more time on it tomorrow [06:21] kirkland: I don't think installing on a virtio block device was supported/working in hardy [06:21] mathiaz: the installer was in bad shape until about 4pm today, though [06:21] mathiaz: no, i saw the same problem there [06:21] mathiaz: i think we're pretty close [06:22] kirkland: hm - ok. I'll ask about the commit to the kernel tree in the release meeting tomorrow [07:21] `find -name .svn -prune -o -type f` includes directories called .svn but not files within them [07:21] Is there any way to have the .svn directories not listed? [07:23] Aha, got it, they appear in the output, but they're not parsed by -exec :) [07:40] * delcoyote hi [07:46] how to find the performance checking for dns dhcp [07:54] please anyone tell me to do performance checking for DNS [07:54] or proxy server [08:06] sommer: happy b-day! :D [08:08] * Koon hugs sommer too (hi, ivoks !) [08:31] Koon: hi ;) === Doc|Serverising is now known as Indoctrine [09:02] how to move mysql data dir to another dir? [09:02] shutdown mysql [09:02] when i move it to /home/mysql [09:02] mv /var/lib/mysql /home/mysql [09:03] mysqld cannot start [09:03] you have to configure it [09:03] i already configured [09:03] my.cnf [09:03] ln -s /home/mysql /var/lib/mysql [09:03] don't touch that file [09:03] start mysql [09:03] there's conf.d directory in ubuntu [09:04] create /etc/mysql/conf.d/my_custom_conf.cf [09:04] and add: [09:04] [mysqld] [09:04] datadir = /home/mysql [09:04] in my.cnf or conf.d? [09:05] 10:04 < ivoks> create /etc/mysql/conf.d/my_custom_conf.cf [09:05] 10:04 < ivoks> and add: [09:05] i am trying [09:05] if you create a symlink to the database dir you don't need to change the config [09:06] much easier imho [09:06] .cf?or.cnf? [09:06] cnf, right [09:07] any file name? [09:07] correct [09:09] just this step? [09:10] just those two lines, yes [09:11] it would be wise to change log-bin too [09:11] since, bin-logs can be big if you have lots of SQL queries [09:11] should i change my.cnf? [09:11] i think i already said not to touch that file [09:12] i just add this file,but still not working [09:12] then something else is wrong, not datadir [09:13] 081010 16:12:41 InnoDB: Operating system error number 13 in a file operation. [09:13] InnoDB: The error means mysqld does not have the access rights to [09:13] to...? [09:14] InnoDB: the directory. [09:14] InnoDB: File name ./ibdata1 [09:14] InnoDB: File operation call: 'open'. [09:14] InnoDB: Cannot continue operation. [09:14] i get this message [09:15] well, does mysql user has access to your datadir? [09:15] i give the rights to mysql user [09:15] what's in /home/mysql directory? [09:15] use chown [09:15] the fils which copy from /var/lib/mysql [09:16] and what does 'ls -dl /home/mysql' looks like? [09:17] drwxrwxrwx 3 mysql mysql 4096 2008-10-10 15:38 mysql [09:17] i give all rights to this directory [09:19] and files in it? [09:20] are they owned by root or mysql? [09:20] mysql [09:20] not root [09:24] ps ax | grep mysql [09:24] maybe you have mysql running already? [09:24] not running [09:26] i use 64bits server edition [09:26] lsof /var/lib/mysql/ibdata1 [09:26] lsof /home/mysql/ibdata1 [09:27] both shouldn't retrun anything [09:27] errr [09:27] Operating system error number 13 [09:27] that's permission denied [09:27] how do you start mysql? [09:27] both nothing returned [09:28] sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start [09:28] and 'ls -dl /home/mysql/ibdata1'? [09:28] -rwxrwxrwx 1 mysql mysql 10485760 2008-10-10 15:38 /home/mysql/ibdata1 [09:29] why is everything 777? [09:30] i did this. because 666 not work,so i try 777 [09:30] all files in /home/mysql should be 660 [09:30] find /home/mysql -type f -exec chmod 660 {}\; [09:30] find /home/mysql -type d -exec chmod 700 {}\; [09:30] chmod 755 /home/mysql/mysql [09:31] chmod 600 /home/mysql/mysql_upgrade_info [09:31] chmod 644 /home/mysql/debian-5.0.flag [09:31] chmod 755 /home/mysql [09:32] chown -R mysql:mysql /home/mysql [09:33] ok,i did all above.but still not working [09:33] same error message [09:34] what's in your /etc/mysql/conf.d/custom_file.cnf? [09:34] or however you called it [09:34] [mysqld] [09:34] datadir=/home/mysql [09:34] just this two lines [09:34] do you still have a backup of original /etc/mysql/my.cnf? [09:35] i have restored this file [09:36] and still doesn't start? [09:36] when i delete custom_file.cnf [09:36] mysqld can started [09:36] yes [09:36] but then it uses /var/lib/mysql [09:37] yes [09:37] when it uses /var/lib/mysql,it's ok [09:38] stop mysql [09:39] rm -rf /home/mysql [09:39] stoped [09:39] cp -a /var/lib/mysql /home/mysql [09:40] finish [09:40] then? [09:41] still not working [09:46] just a sec... phone [09:48] create a file /etc/mysql/conf.d/custom.cnf [09:48] add in it: [09:48] [mysqld] [09:48] datadir = /home/mysql [09:48] save it and start mysql [09:50] no use.. [09:50] i try this in cent os, it works,but in ubuntu it fails [09:52] hm [09:53] is ubutun security policy too stricted? [09:53] /home is on separate partition? [09:53] aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa [09:53] yes [09:53] correct [09:53] apparmor :D [09:53] separate partition [09:54] apparmor profile doesn't allow mysql user to read outside /var/lib/mysql [09:54] run this: [09:54] aa-complain /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld [09:54] how to fix it? [09:54] then? [09:54] and then start it [09:55] ok.it works [09:55] but this is just a workaround [09:55] cause, your logs will get filled with apparmor complaints [09:56] ....... [09:56] how to fix it? [09:56] open file /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld [09:56] at the end, before last }, add this: [09:56] /home/mysql/ r, [09:57] /home/mysql/** rwk, [09:58] just this two lines? [09:58] yes [09:58] then stop mysql [09:58] run: [09:58] aa-enforce /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld [09:58] and then start mysql [10:00] during distribution upgrades, keep an eye on that file [10:00] ok [10:00] thanks [10:00] you'll have to add these two lines [10:00] if you would like to try... [10:00] do you have 2-3 minutes to test something? [10:00] yes [10:01] could you delete those lines you added and create new file? [10:01] /etc/apparmor.d/custom.mysqld [10:01] with these lines: [10:01] ok,i try [10:01] /usr/sbin/mysqld { [10:02] #include [10:02] /home/mysql r, [10:02] /home/mysql/** rwk, [10:02] } [10:03] hm... i'm not sure that will work, but let's try [10:03] finished [10:03] then? [10:03] aa-enforce /etc/apparmor.d/* [10:04] any errors? [10:04] no [10:04] try restarting mysql [10:05] does it work? [10:05] failed... [10:05] bah... [10:05] try removing that line #include from your new file [10:06] then run /etc/init.d/apparmor restart [10:06] and then start mysql [10:06] need aa-enforce [10:06] ? [10:06] no [10:06] it's already enforced [10:07] still failed [10:07] bah... [10:08] ok, than just delete that file and add those two files to /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld [10:08] hah,give up~ [10:09] right... we'll have to work on how to configure 'custom' apparmor profiles as an addition to already existing profiles [10:09] however strange that sounds :D [10:10] ha [10:10] for those that still don't know: [10:10] Wikipedia moves to Ubuntu Server :D [10:13] thanks a lot. [10:13] np [10:14] aa just use in ubuntu? [10:16] and suse, iirc [10:16] apparmor is a security shield [10:17] this armor is too strong~ [10:17] :) [10:20] i am going to offline,Bye~ [10:22] New bug: #281188 in samba (main) "Panic or segfault in Samba" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/281188 [10:30] please anyone tell me to do performance checking for DNS [11:07] gane: I have used a tool called dnsperf a while back, don't think it is packaged though, so you might have to take the source and compile them. === freaky[t] is now known as freaky_t === freaky_t is now known as freaky[t] === freaky[t] is now known as freaky_t [11:32] what is the version of used for server [11:32] what is the version of kernel used for server [11:32] 2.6.24-19-server [11:51] shall i get this config file [11:51] Deeps, what sre the features support by this kernel [12:04] Deeps, i want to enable smp in the kernel source how to [12:07] <_ruben> smp is enabled by default [13:31] ivoks, Koon thanks :) === freaky_t is now known as fReAkY[t] === fReAkY[t] is now known as freaky_t [13:54] Koon: have you tested the pam_smblogin fix? [13:55] zul: yes, quite extensively [13:55] cool so I can upload the debdiff for you as soon as I finished this SRU [13:56] I was worried that the samba-common upgrade would find /var/lib/samba "owned" by samba but that's not the case [13:56] ok sounds good thanks for the fix === freaky_t is now known as fReAky_t [14:36] is there any way to let sshd chmod files after they got transferred via scp (on the incoming side)? or let sshd automatically trigger a hookscript after file transfers ? === fReAky_t is now known as freaky_t === benkant_ is now known as benkant [14:56] Koon: uploaded it by the way [14:56] yay ! [15:03] lamont: hi! ping re feedback on bug #279316 [15:03] Launchpad bug 279316 in bind9 "SRU for bind9 to 9.4.2.dfsg.P2 on hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/279316 [15:04] this channel is now support :O [15:05] meh [15:06] jdstrand: looking now - anything particular you want on there that isn't asked for in the text already? [15:06] FAT32 is so useless [15:07] steven in group escrow can't edit a directory that is owned by root in group escrow with read and write... what would cause this? [15:08] I'm guessing something with sshfs is causing the problem :( [15:08] lamont: just a comment on regression potential [15:10] lamont: also, can you briefly comment on: [15:10] 16:28 < jdstrand> lamont: also, I noticed that we went from libisc32 to libisc35, but it looks like only bind9 binaries use it-- can you mention that as well? [15:12] RediXe: the directory *containing* the directory which should be edited is group escrow & has g+w ? [15:14] phaidros: On the server, the directory is /home/common /home is rwxr-xr-x root root ... while common is rwxrws--- root escrow ..... would the /home be ruining it? [15:14] jdstrand: done and done. [15:15] RediXe: yes. the user shoud have correct permission for the file/dir *and* the dir containing that one. [15:17] phaidros: So should I move the common folder to /common (because I also have /home/finance that is not part of group escrow but group finance)? [15:17] lamont: \o/ thanks man! [15:19] jdstrand: sorry for taking so long. :-( [15:19] RediXe: yes, this could be a solution. [15:20] lamont: I had my part in that as well... [15:20] phaidros: Is it a smart solution or is there a more "preferred" way? Just curious, trying to make sure I don't start doing something the "wrong" way that I might regret later on. [15:21] jdstrand: win! [15:23] RediXe: you only have two choices for that case: either move the content, which users should be able to edit somewhere else, *or* give the users the permissions where the files actually are. smart is, to never give users to many permissions, so they cannot mess, even accidentially. [15:23] RediXe: how you approach this is just a matter of taste. [15:26] phaidros: So lets say I put /companyname/common and /companyname/finance ....companyname is rwxrwx--- root companyname ---- /companyname/common is rwxrw---- root escrow ----/companyname/finance is rwxrw---- root finance ..... As long as the user was in group companyname and escrow that user could access /companyname/common but not /companyname/finance right? [15:26] RediXe: correct. [15:26] phaidros: I think I'm starting to get this stuff down finally :P [15:27] RediXe: until you understand it fully, it seems illogical. once u got it, you even stumble here and there over nice things, like sticky bits and such .. happens to everybudy :) [15:28] phaidros: Well I thank you a ton for your help! [15:28] np [15:35] phaidros: sudo usermod -g rps steven would add steven to the group rps right? .. ran id steven and I see I'm part of that group but I don't see a group I was in like it replaced it somehow [15:39] greetings,postfix : i was told for ubuntu there were some changes in the location of the smtpd.conf , what would be the right location today ? /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd ? [15:40] ATA_Dark_Shadow: Yes as for many, many years before today. [15:44] kirkland: so I think that installation with virtio network interface is working for intrepid, correct? [15:44] mathiaz: i need to test today's iso, but i think so [15:44] where should i start to look for an error why postfix possibly does not "contact" saslauth? (i have saslauthd with -d started ; testsaslauth works fine and shows infos) [15:44] nijaba: wrt to JeOS. There are two things that need to be done - -virtual installation + install the minimal seed instead of the standard? [15:45] Is there a limit on how many groups a user can belong too? [15:45] mathiaz: yes [15:45] mathiaz: did you solve the -virtual kernel issue? [15:45] nijaba: yes - it's all good [15:45] \o/ [15:46] nijaba: I can just seed them on the -server iso [15:46] nijaba: we just need to fix the installer options and figure out the seed installation. [15:46] mathiaz: that would be GREAT [15:46] nijaba: could this be considered as a regression from hardy? [15:46] ATA_Dark_Shadow: It's probably because postfix by default is in a chroot. If you look in the Ubuntu Server Guide it'll tell you how to get it to talk to saslauthd. [15:47] mathiaz: certainly, as we decided to pull the JeOS iso, considering that this feature would be present [15:47] nijaba: ok. [15:48] ScottK ill check that guide again, maybe i missed something the first time, my postfix isnt in the chroot anymore though, ill have another look [15:48] kirkland: how does the openiscsi look? [15:48] mathiaz: delayed to next week; Etienne is going to recreate his test environment and we're goign to work on it then [15:49] ATA_Dark_Shadow: Then if it's not in the chroot, then guide will be wrong. [15:50] kirkland: ok. === ivoks2 is now known as ivoks [16:14] sommer: bday happy a you wish i :) [16:16] * nxvl waves on sommer [16:16] ScottK still no use, i changed back to chroot enviroment, i still can "login" with testsaslauth and recieve mails without "saslauth" but when i try to send a mail through a mail client i get authentification failed, and saslauthd seems not to get called [16:16] soren: happy birthday (if you aren't drunk already/still) [16:19] errr [16:19] sommer: ^^^ [16:19] soren: sorry [16:19] :P [16:20] ivoks: heh, thanks [16:20] nxvl: nope not yet, still at work :) [16:21] *yet* is the key [16:21] :D [16:22] on my birthdays i always end when a friend driving mi gf home and another driving me [16:22] :D [16:23] lol, as long as you get there it's all good [16:23] ATA_Dark_Shadow: I don't have time for detailed assistance right now. My advice is very carefully go over the recommendations in the server guide and see where yours is different. Sorry. [16:24] can anyone suggest a good tool for keeping track of a couple dozen ubuntu servers? I'd like to use ssh-agent and pubkey auth to handle the auth part, but I'm still stuck on some sort of way to show me a list of these servers. [16:25] spowers: you could put them into an ldap directory [16:25] working on that, actually [16:25] the main reason i'm using ubuntu-server instead of debian is the easy availability of likewise-open [16:26] which is fantastic in our windows environment [16:26] the list part is really more about how do i put the list in front of my eyeballs [16:26] most of my experience dealing with linux has been about how to safely cram as much stuff onto a single machine as possible, and the whole thing is inverting right now [16:26] ldapsearch would work to list them... but also maybe just list them in a wiki page? [16:27] hmm [16:27] i wonder if i can tell firefox to handle ssh:// or something [16:28] not sure about that, I was just thinking about my server specific documentation is in a wiki [16:29] you might be able to do something creative like place links to a shell script that will open a terminal and start a telnet session :) [16:32] how do i increase the size of my lvm root partition? [16:44] with live cd [16:44] ivoks: bacula uploaded to hardy-proposed againa now we wait :) [16:45] Does anyone use an off site Back-up service that they would recommend? === trashguy_ is now known as TrashGUY [17:06] ivoks: live cd doesn't seems to have lvm enabled.. [17:09] acemo: did you lvchange -ay ? [17:10] or lvm vgchange -ay [17:10] or lvm vgchange -ay [17:11] thefish: i tried to use lvextend but that gives a bunch of errors [17:11] acemo: what kind of errors? [17:11] did lvdisplay show the volumes? [17:12] lvdisplay also gives a few errors.. but does show the volumes.. lemme type over the errors [17:14] "/proc/misc: No entry for device-mapper found. Is device-mapper driver missing from kernel? Failure to communicate with kernel device-mapper driver." that 2 times and then "Incompatible libdevmapper 1.02.27 (2008-06-25)(compat) and kernel driver" [17:16] mm ok maybe the livecd kernel doesnt have lvm :/ [17:17] nah first time i tried lvm it said its not installed yet and have to type this to install so i installed hoping it would work [17:18] is it posisble with the ubuntu-server cd to setup a lvm that uses 4 disks during the installation? [17:18] acemo: what does vgchange -a y do? [17:19] it used to be that only the alternative cd supports lvm, so i always take that one [17:19] dont know if its still the case [17:19] same errors + the text 0 logical volume(s) in volume group "Leonardo" now active [17:20] mm wierd it sees the group [17:20] live cd and server cd do support creating a lvm during the install [17:20] thefish: I think that is still the case [17:20] acemo: really, I didn't know the desktop cd could. [17:20] acemo: ^ there you go then [17:20] dont have a knoppix disk about do you? [17:21] or the alternate cd [17:21] thefish: i got an empty cd and a dvd burner :) [17:21] ;) [17:22] with all due respect to the various *buntu CDs, i still keep a knoppix disk about [17:22] im sure theres a *buntu cd with similar powers somewhere [17:23] if you have a server disk about you could try that as well [17:24] acemo: actuall... still there? [17:24] modprobe dm-mod [17:24] still here [17:24] sudo modprobe dm-mod [17:25] try that ^ [17:25] it gives no output [17:25] shouldnt [17:25] alright [17:26] not try vgdisplay etc [17:26] now [17:26] it shows the volume group now, with no errors [17:27] huzzah! [17:27] so now you should be able to proceed as before [17:27] lvextend -L+1G /dev/Leonardo/root seems to work.. [17:27] kees: jdstrand: how can I run the test-dovecot.py from qa-regression-testing? [17:27] atleast it says its resized successfully [17:27] acemo: dont forget you also need to resize the fs [17:28] kees: jdstrand: I've tried sudo ./test-dovecot.py -v but all the tests fails [17:28] is there a command to let it extend to the max w.o having to calculate how big this will be? [17:28] mathiaz: it should have instructions at the top [17:28]