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| ara | morning! | 07:05 |
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| sbeattie | morning ara! | 07:10 |
| sbeattie | does anyone know if there's a way to run hardy's update-manager in a debug mode? I've had it happen where, with enough packages to install, it just downloads them, says it installed them, but doesn't actually do it. | 07:12 |
| ara | evening sbeattie ;-) | 07:12 |
| persia | sbeattie, What sort of debug information are you trying to extract? | 07:13 |
| sbeattie | uh, a clue as to why it's not actually installing packages? | 07:13 |
| persia | That's harder then. The actual installation is done by a call to synaptic, which then processes the changes in the requested apt-cache. | 07:14 |
| ara | sbeattie: have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingUpdateManager? | 07:14 |
| sbeattie | hrm, I just realized I probably don't have apport turned on either. | 07:14 |
| ara | sbeattie: did it fail in a particular package? | 07:15 |
| ara | morning thekorn | 07:50 |
| thekorn | good morning ara | 07:51 |
| davmor2 | Morning Everybody | 08:01 |
| davmor2 | mvo: morning Dude do you deal with upgrades or is it someone else? | 08:02 |
| mvo | hey davmor2 | 08:16 |
| mvo | davmor2: I do that | 08:16 |
| davmor2 | mvo: cool upgrading from hardy to intrepid you get the logout (greenman) top right and the fusa switch user/log out/switch off to the left of n-m applet is this known? | 08:19 |
| mvo | davmor2: yes, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fast-user-switch-applet/+bug/274146 | 08:23 |
| ubot5` | Launchpad bug 274146 in fast-user-switch-applet "Has not yet replaced the existing log out applet" [High,In progress] | 08:23 |
| mvo | davmor2: its not tirivial, we will add a notification about this for the user so that he can click on a button and that updats his config | 08:24 |
| mvo | automatically modifiying user configs is something we don't want to do | 08:24 |
| davmor2 | Okay | 08:24 |
| mvo | davmor2: it should land today (hopefully) | 08:25 |
| davmor2 | give me a ping if it does I can re-test on Monday | 08:26 |
| mvo | cool, thanks | 08:26 |
| davmor2 | mvo: Looks like everything else work pretty much fine | 08:27 |
| mvo | excellent | 08:27 |
| mvo | cd upgrades still need some love, but otherwise we should be in good shape | 08:27 |
| davmor2 | mvo: Nvidia updated without any issues which I know played up at one point, so looking good | 08:28 |
| mvo | cool! that is good to know | 08:28 |
| mvo | real HW testing, especially with nvidia and ati is great | 08:28 |
| davmor2 | mvo: I need to get hold of an ati card. I got nvidia and intel so I'm only missing ati to round off my hardware collection :) | 08:30 |
| ara | mvo: one question. I am trying to automated distribution upgrades. When reaching the dialog that stats "Do you want to start the upgrade?" and that you have two buttons, Cancel and Start Upgrade... | 10:37 |
| ara | mvo: the accessibility seems to be not working at that point | 10:37 |
| ara | mvo: if I try to run at-poke or accerciser, they get stuck | 10:38 |
| ara | mvo: so I cannot get the assistive information | 10:38 |
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| mvo | ara: right, I think that this is a problem with the way the accessability stuff works. update-manager switches to root for the actually install | 11:08 |
| mvo | and IIRC/AFAIK when doing that (via gksu/sudo) the layer does no longer work | 11:08 |
| mvo | now I wonder if it is possible to just run the automatiation as root too (or even log into a root desktop session) for this testing | 11:09 |
| ara | mvo: mmm, yes, I guess that would be the only solution | 11:09 |
| ara | mvo: thanks :-) | 11:09 |
| mvo | ara: cheers, let me know how it all works out, I'm very interessted in your work on this | 11:12 |
| mvo | ara: what VM solution do you use ? | 11:13 |
| ara | mvo: virtualbox | 11:13 |
| mvo | ara: does it support a non-gui mode too? so that you can e.g. attach vnc to it but it runs otherwise non-interactive and headless? kvm can do this, but it has other disadvantages (like needs HW support and snapshot seems to be broken) | 11:14 |
| ara | mvo: I don't know, I will check that | 11:18 |
| mvo | not important, I was just curious :) I am frustrated with kvm sometimes (especially because of the broken snapshot support) and I am curious about alternative | 11:20 |
| thekorn | hi, has anyone ever heard about a bug where after an installation of intrepid no swap is used? | 17:48 |
| persia | thekorn, I've encountered timing issues with swap loading sometimes, but trying to turn it on post-boot always seems to work. I figured it was just my setup for encrypted swap being based on an out-of-date HOWTO. | 17:49 |
| thekorn | persia: hmm, I did two clean installations in a row now, swapon -s is showing the swap device, but used stays at 0 | 17:54 |
| thekorn | so I'm wondering what's going on there | 17:54 |
| sbeattie | thekorn: what's free show? | 17:55 |
| davmor2 | sbeattie: Duh it's a show that's free ;) | 17:55 |
| thekorn | 4883752 | 17:56 |
| persia | thekorn: have you applied enough memory pressure to force swap? What about your swappiness tunable? | 17:58 |
| persia | It usually takes me a VM session and a bunch of other stuff to start using swap. | 17:58 |
| thekorn | persia: memory is at 89% right now, so I think swapping should have started | 18:00 |
| thekorn | oha! swappiness is 99 | 18:03 |
| mcas | can anyone tell me how i can start the gnome applet to change my cpu speed? | 18:06 |
| mcas | how is the command? | 18:07 |
| SiDi | Hello | 18:34 |
| SiDi | Anyone who knows where i may find the Ibex official themes ? | 18:36 |
| persia | SiDi, I'd recommend starting with a liveCD. | 18:37 |
| SiDi | Well i just wanna get the 2 themes :) | 18:39 |
| SiDi | If possible without DLing the whole CD | 18:39 |
| SiDi | i'm a bit limited in terms of bandwidth | 18:39 |
| persia | SiDi, Yes, but I don't know. You might ask in #ubuntu-art | 18:40 |
| SiDi | Alright, thanks | 18:41 |
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