[00:06] <nikkolai> Hi guys, in hardy i was using the nvidia-glx-new package, but i can't find it on intrepid beta? Has a new name??
[00:06] <TheSheep> !info nvidia-glx-new
[00:07] <TheSheep> ah, that's still hardy
[00:07] <nikkolai> there is a nvidia-glx-new-envy, but not sure if is the same
[00:08] <TheSheep> nikkolai: looks like there are also nvidia-glx-177 and such
[00:08] <TheSheep> and nvidia-glx installs them all
[00:08] <TheSheep> maybe they don't conflict anymore?
[00:09] <nikkolai> no idea :D..  will read a bit about thhat packages... thnx
[00:26] <DCPom> what's the bash command to append text to a file?
[00:29] <mini-man> echo "yada" >> myfile
[00:38] <DCPom>  thanks
[00:49] <Flare183> lol mini-man cool name
[00:49] <mini-man> thx
[00:49] <mini-man> ok... progress made..
[00:49] <mini-man> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=804986
[00:50] <mini-man> I have the same problem, but after adding the line copter noted and rebooting, now even my headphones don't work
[00:50] <mini-man> I just hear static
[00:52] <mini-man> realtek ALC883 chipset
[01:25] <night98> can anyone help me
[01:25] <DCPom> !anyone | night98
[01:26] <night98> i have a labtop that will not get online
[01:28] <night98> i have a wiress network card
[01:29] <night98> >.>
[01:29] <night98> <.<
[01:29] <night98> o.o
[01:29] <night98> god what a group
[01:29] <night98> hello anyone around
[01:30] <DCPom> !punctuation | night98
[01:30] <DCPom> !wireless | night98
[01:31] <night98> ty
[02:51] <DarkTan> will a xubuntu install fit on a 4 gig drive?
[02:51] <DCPom> i believe so
[02:51] <DCPom> i don't remember the exact size
[02:52] <DarkTan> think it will fit happily?
[02:53] <DCPom> it takes 1.5 gb. http://www.xubuntu.org/get#hardy
[02:53] <DarkTan> ok then, thank you
[05:54] <Igorot> who's on intrepid? anyone experiencing windows not sticking? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfwm4/+bug/271188
[06:00] <gkmngrgn> how to enable policykit on xubuntu?
[06:19] <zerothis> ﻿I have some files in a ........../subdirectory on a removable drive. I want them (the subdirectory) to be automatically available in my home directory when the drive is plugged in. Would mount -bind or mount -rbind do this?
[08:56] <maalsa> Hey xubuntu fans, anybody recommend a good distro with Xfce aside from Xubuntu?
[08:58] <TheSheep> maalsa: for what?
[08:59] <maalsa> for... use?
[08:59] <viabobed> I am no pro.... but if I'm not mistaken you could download the other distros and just d/l the XFCE
[08:59] <viabobed> That's how I got it
[09:00] <TheSheep> maalsa: what kind of use, different distros are good for different things
[09:03] <maalsa> TheSheep: I suppose just, "average" use. I've recently been on the hunt for a good distro to switch to. I've tried Xubuntu (like it) and Mandriva (also like it) and I'm just wondering what else is out there
[09:03] <viabobed> TheSheep: You probably know more about this than me
[09:07] <TheSheep> maalsa: everybody thinks that what they do is "average"
[09:08] <maalsa> TheSheep: Nevermind..
[09:12] <viabobed> I've been messing around with XFCE a bit and I have run into two issues.... I came from Kubuntu8.04 KDE4.01 to Kubuntu8.04 XFCE on a older PC
[09:12] <viabobed> Is tat Kubuntu original install bogging down the system?
[09:12] <viabobed> that*
[09:12] <viabobed> The other is the networking to a windows PC
[09:13] <maalsa> viabobed: You've gotten farther than me, can't help you out. I'll be getting dirty within the next few weeks though as I attempt to set up a small thin client network (eep)
[09:13] <TheSheep> viabobed: details?
[09:15] <viabobed> maalsa: Thanks... TheSheep: PCSpecs; Amd Athalon 1400+, 256MB RAM, Generic Laptop Video Card
[09:16] <maalsa> viabobed: did you uninstall KDE?
[09:17] <TheSheep> viabobed: how much ram does it use without any app running?
[09:20] <viabobed> I downloaded the "remix version of kubuntu online and found it to heavy for this system
[09:20] <viabobed> before I went to the XFCE system... I got KDE4.01 which improved plenty of issues
[09:20] <viabobed> No I have not uninstalled KDE... I found the command to do that using apt-get protocal
[09:20] <viabobed> but, I am afraid its going to be unstable
[09:20] <viabobed> since thats my original install
[09:21] <viabobed> 160-180MB was the number I have been seen lately
[09:21] <maalsa> maybe a lighter distro period will help speed things up
[09:22] <maalsa> if you like the ubuntu base, there's always fluxbuntu (but you have to be a fan of fluxbox)
[09:28] <TheSheep> viabobed: can you open the system monitor, enable the 'writable memory' tab and see what's taling the most of it?
[09:33] <viabobed> Right now I cant check to compare.. I have ffox, pidgeon, and adept running an update
[09:33] <viabobed> But ill tell you how its running with these apps...
[09:33] <viabobed> Ok update finished... 54% CPU usage, 91MB usage memory and swap, 157MB
[09:33] <viabobed> Not bad after closing ffox and update
[09:33] <viabobed> but still reasonably slow
[09:34] <viabobed> Uninstall KDE?
[09:34] <viabobed> .user
[09:34] <viabobed> :( wifi disconnect
[09:34] <viabobed> ﻿54% CPU usage, 91MB usage memory and swap, 157MB
[09:34] <viabobed> (04:25:59 AM) viabobed: Not bad after closing ffox and update
[09:34] <viabobed> (04:26:07 AM) viabobed: but still reasonably slow
[09:34] <viabobed> Sure
[09:37] <viabobed> Ok opened System Monitor.. I have ffox on top with 24MB, GNome System Monitor and Pidgeon on top or writable memory
[09:37] <viabobed> After that nm-aplet
[09:38] <TheSheep> what's next?
[09:39] <TheSheep> and maybe something is using cpu constantly?
[09:40] <viabobed> xcfe4panel, xcfemenu, keded4... but by the time you get to keded4 the writable memory usage is 1.5MB
[09:40] <viabobed> let me check what is using CPU
[09:46] <viabobed> I am looking at everything and... I guess this CPU might be to weak for the OS
[09:46] <viabobed> Because system monitor is on top of cpu usage at the moment
[09:46] <viabobed> then pidgeon, and kded4 jumps the most
[09:46] <viabobed> So.. i guess its pretty normal
[09:46] <viabobed> I just am not used 54% of cpu on minimal aps
[09:46] <viabobed> and playing chess vs cpu puts the cpu to 100%
[09:47] <TheSheep> what's kded4?
[09:47] <TheSheep> :/
[09:47] <viabobed> I have no idea
[09:47] <TheSheep> try killing it :)
[09:47] <viabobed> Might be one of the KDE files
[09:48] <viabobed> Killed it
[09:48] <viabobed> 40-45% Cpu
[09:48] <viabobed> Helped a bit
[09:49] <viabobed> Believe me if I new all of the critical processes to the system I would have killed everything but that
[09:50] <viabobed> On Xp i try to keep my list less than 29 processes
[09:50] <viabobed> I have 6 things autostarting including one I added for the "attempt" to setup the home network
[09:51] <viabobed> I guess.. If anything I'll research the system files later
[09:52] <viabobed> Last question was, do you have any links/bookmarks on the networking of Kubuntu 8.04 with XFCE with Windows NT based pcs?
[09:52] <viabobed> I appreciate all of your time TheSheep
[09:52] <TheSheep> viabobed: go to settings maanger, sessions and startup and untick the 'start kde services at startup'
[09:52] <TheSheep> viabobed: might help
[09:52] <viabobed> Ok
[09:53] <TheSheep> that will slow down startup of kde apps a little, but relieve system resources when not using kde apps
[09:53] <viabobed> Great
[09:54] <viabobed> While I was at it I removed the update managers and the printer spooler
[09:54] <viabobed> Since i don't need those for a while
[09:54] <viabobed> I only left networking and power management since im on a laptop
[09:54] <viabobed> :)
[09:57] <viabobed> TheSheep thanks for all of the help
[09:58] <viabobed> I think I am going to run a bit leaner now
[09:58] <viabobed> I gotta head out
[10:02] <Woo> Why won't my process just die when I kill it?
[10:11] <TheSheep> Woo: it it a zombie?
[10:11] <Woo> Yes.
[10:12] <TheSheep> zombies are dead already, can't kill them
[10:12] <TheSheep> Woo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_process
[10:12] <Woo> Shit... I'll have to break the emergency glass then.
[10:12] <TheSheep> Woo: they are harmless
[10:13] <Woo> It's not that. The process was a daemon for a program I was running, and I can't restart because it won't rot.
[10:14] <TheSheep> Woo: how did you start that daemon?
[10:15] <Woo> I think I just said deluge in the terminal.
[10:16] <TheSheep> and that terminal is still running?
[10:16] <Woo> No, I rebooted the machie.
[10:17] <TheSheep> and that still didn't get rid of the process? %)
[10:17] <Woo> Things are working now.
[10:17] <TheSheep> \o/
[10:25] <Woo> But it was annoying having to restart since it would not dissappear so I could restart the application.
[10:39] <fragpad> hi
[10:41] <knome> hello
[16:09] <cephi> anybody have an idea how i can figure out why evince always runs at startup for me?  very annoying
[16:10] <knome> cephi, you possibly have saved it at session
[16:10] <cephi> hmmm
[16:10] <knome> cephi, turn off all the progs, then on the log out screen select "save session..."
[16:10] <knome> then log in again, evince shouldn't start
[16:10] <cephi> ok, will try, thx
[16:11] <knome> but on the next logout, remember to check out
[16:11] <knome> (the "save...")
[16:11] <cephi> right
[16:11] <cephi> brb logout
[16:13] <cephi> hey it worked thanks
[16:13] <knome> np
[16:14] <cephi> Now for the other really annoying part of my startup: can anyone tell me how to get xubuntu to remember my WPA password?  Currently, I have to enter it every time
[16:23] <knome> cephi, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157808
[16:23] <knome> cephi, basically, if you set the password to <none>, it will not ask for it, because it's empty
[16:28] <cephi> hm, but it doesn't want a password for the gnome keyring from me; it wants the WPA passwords itself
[16:28] <knome> ah, sorry for misreading
[16:29] <knome> removing/backuping the keyring file might still be a good idea, though
[16:31] <cephi> i'll have a go at it
[17:07] <KlrSpz> anyone have any idea why i can't add the volume plugin to my panel? running hardy
[17:10] <KlrSpz> http://pastebin.com/m5dae87e0
[17:12] <bytor4232> Wonderful.
[17:12] <KlrSpz> ?
[17:12] <bytor4232> I just updated my laptop, which is running Intrepid, and now my mouse and kbd doesn't work.
[17:12] <KlrSpz> fun
[17:12] <bytor4232> I'm CLI baby
[17:13] <KlrSpz> xorg issue?
[17:13] <bytor4232> I'm sure
[17:13] <KlrSpz> you using an xorg.conf or it's autoconfig stuff?
[18:17] <ReiKn> hello.. could someone help with configuring xubuntu 8.10b to use a printer which is shared from a windows vista computer?
[18:57] <KlrSpz> ﻿anyone have any idea why i can't add the volume plugin to my panel? running hardy -- ﻿http://pastebin.com/m5dae87e0
[18:57] <TheSheep> KlrSpz: try drag and drop
[18:57] <TheSheep> KlrSpz: it's a bug
[18:58] <KlrSpz> christ
[18:58] <KlrSpz> that's weird, cuz it's on and off when it works or doesn't
[19:00] <KlrSpz> TheSheep: thanks for the quick response, appreciate it
[19:19] <steven__> hello
[19:19] <steven__> is the only way to reconfigure xorg by the cd?
[19:19] <Odd-rationale> steven__: you can do "sudo dpgk-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[19:20] <steven__> tried that
[19:20] <steven__> tells me i'm overwriting customizable configuration
[19:20] <Odd-rationale> yeah...
[19:22] <steven__> any ideas?
[19:22] <steven__> it doesn't change anything
[19:23] <steven__> doesn't even let me choose resolutions
[19:23] <steven__> mouse keyboard
[19:23] <steven__> boom back to command line
[19:23] <Odd-rationale> !resolution
[19:24] <steven__> hmm
[19:24] <steven__> i will look
[19:24] <TeXnicer> !alternative nick
[19:24] <TeXnicer> !_
[19:25] <TeXnicer> steven__, watch your "__"
[19:27] <steven__> ?
[19:31] <steven__> lost...
[19:32] <steven__> hardy heron is the only one i've had this prob with
[19:34] <Bradasdf> Help, new to os, eepc, can't see bottom of windows
[19:34] <knome> Bradasdf, alt+drag
[19:34] <Bradasdf> thx
[19:35] <Bradasdf> Just got it today
[20:55] <oklinux> what kind of mini-man are you ?
[20:56] <mini-man> ?
[20:56] <oklinux> sorry
[20:56] <mini-man> :D
[20:56] <oklinux> I thougt your name is mini-van
[20:56] <mini-man> lol xD
[20:57] <oklinux> you run xubuntu ? too
[21:37] <mini-man> where is the firefox32 icon at? I thought it was /usr/share/pixmaps/firefox32-3.png... which I replaced...but the default firefox icon is still showing up when I restart firefox32
[21:41] <DCPom> you can probably download it from google,
[21:41] <DCPom> or do a find/locate command
[21:55] <DCPom> !pdf
[22:26] <mini-man> bah. why have all my icons suddenly disappeared in all firefoxes? I have 3 versions of 3.x (vanilla used by ubufox, another used by swiftfox, and yet another used by firefox32 apparently?) and all show x's for icons in the toolbar
[22:26] <mini-man> googled it and tried removing the 'linux32' before the firefox32 shell script... that didn't help
[22:39] <mauilion> Hi I am trying to figure out how to keep the panel from grouping windows of the same type.
[22:39] <mauilion> hopefully for just terminal
[22:39] <mauilion> any ideas?
[22:41] <mini-man> right-click on the very first few pixels of the task list
[22:41] <mini-man> properties
[22:41] <mini-man> in the dropbox select never group tasks
[22:43] <mauilion> rocking Thanks ++mini-man
[22:43] <mini-man> np
[22:44] <Odd-rationale> mini-man: tried changing your icon theme?
[22:44] <mini-man> Odd-rationale, yes, several times
[22:45] <mini-man> even reinstalled each and every one of the versions i have installed, one by one
[22:45] <Odd-rationale> mini-man: hmm.. idk, maby backup your bookmarks and remove ~/.mozilla
[22:47] <freeman192038> hi, someone know where i can find mod_slotlimit package? it's a project that i've found on sourceforge
[22:50] <zoredache> I doubt there is a package.  It appears to have been released just 5 weeks ago
[22:50] <zoredache> if you install the -dev package that matches your running version of apache you probably should be able to compile it though
[22:51] <freeman192038> thanks zoredache, nobody had never asìnwer ;)
[22:51] <mini-man> Odd-rationale, ok, completely *removed* firefox and all traces of it, and installed and the icons are back... BUT it's not saving my bookmarks at all
[22:52] <mini-man> I googled it, and did the tweak in about:config, restarted, added bookmark, restarted, and bookmark disappears
[22:52] <mini-man> no idea why
[22:55] <zoredache> check the permissions on your firefox profile directory.  Perhaps you managed to open your firefox profile as root and you can no longer write to it?
[22:56] <zoredache> ls -alR ~/.mozilla/firefox/
[22:56] <mini-man> zoredache,  you're right :)
[22:56] <mini-man> zoredache,  thanks
[23:49] <The-Kernel> So, my system hangs when booting up
[23:49] <The-Kernel> its when it loads hal
[23:49] <The-Kernel> is there a way to look at why?
[23:57] <mini-man> is there a way to reduce the size of the tray icons in xfce?
[23:59] <zoredache> don't they just try to resize them selves to fit the size of the panel?  Try changing the panel height