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frozzenfirehey guys00:02
contrastGreets, everyone...00:03
contrastAnyone know how to start a program on a host's display when logged into it via SSh?00:04
contrastAnyone know how to start a program on a host's display when logged into it via SSh?00:15
VStyDShello00:15
contrast!hi | VStyDS00:17
ubottuVStyDS: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!00:17
Hamradual boot question: if i have a boot loader on the MBR i use for most of my OSes, and i installed a boot loader on one of the partitions, what menu entries do i need for the 1st boot loader so i get the menu of this seconf boot loader?00:18
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* glade88|Away is away: Gone away for now00:20
guti14hi00:21
kabotagehi00:21
etfbTrying to burn a copy of a DVD, I get an error saying that k3b failed to retrieve all the CSS keys.  I've updated libdvdcss2 via Medibuntu.  What else can I do?00:22
chfwiggumetfb: dvd protected?00:22
etfbchfwiggum: Must be.  It plays OK though.00:23
contrastetfb: I've never had much luck with K3b and encrypted DVD's. I'd just use K9Copy (sudo apt-get install k9copy) to create the .iso, then use K3b to burn the image.00:23
etfbcontrast: Ah!  I'll try that.  Thanks.00:23
contrastetfb: Last I checked though, I *think* the copy of K9Copy in the repos is broken. :-\00:24
etfbcontrast: ??? Why's it in the repos then?00:24
contrastGot me.00:24
contrastWorth a shot though, it might've just been something on my system I broke.00:25
lkjasacontrast: 'bout your question, you mean something like  DISPLAY=":0.0" myapp &  ?00:25
etfbI love Ubuntu and the apt system, but I swear: someone needs to get a serious kicking about some of the crap that gets officially included...00:25
contrastlkjasa: I think so.00:25
contrastetfb: It's not "officially" included - it's in the Universe repo. ;-)00:26
contrastlkjasa: Beautiful, that got it. Thanks.00:26
contrastlkjasa: For some reason, setting the DISPLAY variable, then running the program after it's set wasn't working.00:27
lkjasaexport DISPLAY=":0.0" should work00:27
guti14Algun espa;ol por aqui?00:28
etfb!es>guti1400:29
ubottuguti14, please see my private message00:29
guti14gracias... thx00:30
etfbcontrast: You're right: sigfault when I tried opening a DVD.  I'll go find the sources...00:31
contrastetfb: I'm pretty sure I tried that and it did the same thing. I *believe* vamps is the real culprit. :-\00:32
contrastI'm gonna see if Intrepid's copy of Vamps works in Hardy; if you wanna wait a minute, I'll let you know how that pans out.00:32
contrastetfb: http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/v/vamps/vamps_0.99.2-2_i386.deb - Looks like that got it. The disc image wouldn't even open, right?00:37
etfbcontrast: Yep.  Just installing that and rerunning k9copy will work?  Or do I need to rebuild k9copy from source?00:37
contrastyou should be fine after installing that.00:38
etfbcontrast: Nope.  Still segfaulting.  Never mind, I have to go.  Thanks for your help anyway.00:41
zabbadapphow do i install a theme in kde4 ... i have the list with themes from kde-look.org in the settings window, but the gui is confusing and i there seems to be missing a "apply" button or something00:45
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geekwhere/how do i set the DNS server for kubuntu?01:22
ign0ramusgeek: knetworkmanager > manual configuration01:23
geekign0ramus: thanks01:25
ign0ramusgeek:01:25
ign0ramusoops.  no problem ;001:25
* geek had the DNS server on the router act up so i decided to use the spare DNS server i set up for fun XD01:26
ign0ramusyou can always use 4.2.2.1-.601:26
ign0ramusor OpenDNS01:26
derduiKubuntu-de01:28
geeklol01:29
geekyeah, i'll be adding opendns as alternates as well. can't hurt to have backups01:30
unitypunkhey02:14
albuntuunitypunk : hello02:14
unitypunkwhats up?02:15
albuntueverything ok02:15
unitypunkyeah02:15
unitypunkwell02:16
unitypunki was wondering about ssh02:16
unitypunkif i got openssh-server02:17
unitypunkis there somewhere i have to set it up02:17
albuntuunitypunk : i use putty02:18
unitypunkim on windows now.02:18
albuntuyou can use it there too02:18
unitypunkwell02:18
albuntui dont know openssh but for me putty is perfect02:18
albuntuaaaaaahhhhh sorry02:18
albuntuyou need the server ?????02:18
unitypunkhmm02:19
albuntuyou need to setup a server02:19
unitypunki was hoping i could get to a shell from my work02:19
albuntuor you want just a ssh client ?02:19
unitypunki have a client on here02:19
albuntuok then putty is perfect02:19
albuntufor a client02:19
unitypunkcrap..02:22
_gtt_unitypunk - I might be weird, but I kind of like all of the luxuries I get along with WebMin02:22
unitypunkwhats webmin?02:22
_gtt_webmin is a web-based system administration interface, that provides a shell via http (your browser)02:22
_gtt_it does all kinds of other wonderful stuff as well. if you search google, it's the first result.02:23
unitypunkhmm02:23
unitypunki wish i knew what the external ip of my networ was..02:24
albuntuunitypunk : showmyip.com02:24
unitypunknot at home :-/02:24
unitypunkim at work02:24
unitypunki want to play with my desktop at home.02:24
unitypunk:-/02:24
_gtt_when you get back home setup no-ip02:24
unitypunkyeah02:25
unitypunkive used no-ip lots in past02:25
_gtt_sudo aptitude -y install no-ip02:25
unitypunkaptitude :/02:25
unitypunkapt-get?02:25
* Dr_willis_ missed the question02:25
_gtt_that should work....but i prefer aptitude... remember i'm weird02:25
Dr_willis_I always install/use synaptic02:26
Dr_willis_or the commandline02:26
albuntuDr_willis_ : the question was how to show the external ip02:26
albuntuDr_willis_ : question made from unitypunk02:26
albuntulol02:26
_gtt_hrmm02:26
unitypunkaptitude is aptget?02:26
Dr_willis_My router has a dyndns client bult in.02:27
Dr_willis_!aptitude02:27
ubottuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. Like other APT front-ends, it can install/remove packages and their dependencies (on Dapper and earlier, however, only aptitude keeps track of unused dependencies). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide02:27
_gtt_if you've sent yourself an email from home recently, you may be able to find the ip address in the headers from the email.02:27
unitypunkoh meh02:27
_gtt_yeah, the Buffalo's are good for built-in dyndns02:28
albuntuunitypunk : aptitude automatically installs recommended packages. apt-get doesnt02:28
_gtt_i think they both take my fav -y arg.02:28
Dr_willis_Hmm.. apt-get can auto-install recommended packages if ya give it the right args02:28
Dr_willis_I think.02:28
albuntuDr_willis_ : yes. sort of02:29
Dr_willis_i rarely want it to autoinstall the reccomended.. becuase the reccomendations are often very... weird.. :)02:29
Dr_willis_Hmm the web site whatismyip has a simple url to get the ip now.     http://whatismyip.com/automation/n09230945.asp02:30
unitypunk_gtt_, im using ddwrt02:30
unitypunkon a wrt54g02:30
_gtt_you need to share the info on ddwrt02:30
_gtt_i think i got a wrt54g02:30
_gtt_got the wireless ethernet bridge too... really happy with it.02:31
unitypunkdd-wrt.org?02:33
unitypunkgrab the right version for your router02:33
unitypunkand install02:33
Schuenemanncan anyone tell me from which directory cron runs a task?02:36
albuntuSchuenemann : /etc/cron.daily02:37
albuntuSchuenemann : /etc/cron.d , cron.hourly cron.monthly02:38
Schuenemannalbuntu, I have a ruby script that works when I call it myself (even from that directory) but not when cron calls it. An exception (broken pipe) is raised02:39
SchuenemannI've been on this for days... =(02:39
albuntuSchuenemann : try checking man for cron because i dont know too much about it.02:40
albuntuSchuenemann : man cron in terminal and you get all the explanation02:40
albuntu!cron | Schuenemann02:41
ubottuSchuenemann: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm02:41
Schuenemannthat is more a howto than an explanation about it02:47
SchuenemannI can't understand why it works when I call it02:48
_gtt_unitypunk: what would dd-wrt give me that i would not already have?02:55
_gtt_if its just more configuration, i dont have time or desire for it, but if it makes things faster or something that'd be great.02:55
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amazon__oi03:11
amazon__jsdlhfkjlasdf03:11
amazon__oq é isso03:11
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administratorhi need help installing program, ive tried package manger the file is listed and ive requested install but nothing happens, ive also tried refreshing list but same thing occurs03:13
Predator106you have to hit apply03:13
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Predator106administrator: Is that what you did already? The package manager waits till' you select everything you want, then you hit apply03:14
administratorapply does not highlight sat for 5 mins nothing03:14
Predator106and you checked the box on one of them03:15
Predator106hm03:15
Predator106when it prompted to run as root, you did so right?03:16
administratordoesnt get that far03:16
Predator106no, it prompts for root right when adept starts03:16
Predator106if that is the one you are talking about03:16
administratorive prviously added packages without any problems03:16
albuntuadministrator : press ctrl+esc and check for adept because you may have open 2 or 3 of them and kill them and try again03:17
Predator106ctrl + escape?03:18
Predator106what is that supposed to do?03:18
albuntuPredator106 : maybe i am wrong but left ctrl + escape gives me the processes03:18
administratorok checked none running ill try again03:19
Predator106albuntu: It must be how you set up kde normally, because it does not happen on mine. using Kcontrol i set it to windows setup, however03:19
albuntuadministrator : open adept and it should ask for the password before opening03:19
Predator106yeah, I think it runs as user if you hit ignore03:20
Predator106thus not being able to apply03:20
albuntuPredator106 : maybe. i said it without thinking because for me it works. :)03:20
administratorit doesnt ask for password03:21
Predator106must be already in root-mode03:21
albuntuadministrator : Predator106 is right. it must be in root mode. try choosing a package and applying03:22
Predator106albuntu: what does the ignore button even do on kdesu? Isn't it the same as cancel, it didn't start adept for me, I figured it would just run as user. Unless adept is one of those programs that can only run as root?03:24
administratorok i searched for package selected it (mediatagtools) request Install but nothin for applying changes happening03:24
albuntuadministrator : can you try restarting X03:24
administratorim new user this is my first day using linux ???03:25
Predator106administrator: logout and hit ctrl+alt+backspace03:26
Predator106then wait until it asks, and log back in03:26
Predator106this is almost like rebooting the computer, but faster03:26
administratorcool thank you ill be back in a few mins thanks for help in meantime03:27
Predator106k, np03:27
bastithis is restarting x....03:27
bastinothing like "this is almost like rebooting the computer, but faster"03:27
unitypunklol03:27
unitypunkbasti03:27
Predator106lol03:27
Predator106well, it basically is03:27
unitypunkalmost like it..03:27
Predator106as much is based off of X03:27
unitypunkbut not..03:27
unitypunkwhy do i hate gnome..03:27
Predator106yep, hence the "almost like"03:28
Predator106plus, i wanted to put it into a lesser sense03:28
Predator106as the average user doesn't know wth X is, nor does he/she care03:28
bastiso why didnt you tell him to use apt-get/aptitude?03:30
Predator106hm?03:31
albuntubasti : maybe because this was his first time03:31
Predator106yeah...03:31
bastiso what?03:31
basticold water03:31
Oilfurnace1IS KUBUTU 8.10 USING A GENERIC KDE BACKGROUND?03:31
albuntubasti : because he wasnt able to find kicker .03:31
albuntulol03:32
Predator106heh03:32
administratorhi agin still the same problem not asking for password when starting and when tried to install its not for happening03:32
bastialt+f203:32
Oilfurnace1?03:32
albuntuOilfurnace1 : #ubuntu+103:32
Predator106Oilfurnace1: You talked in all caps, and then 5 seconds later you expect an answer....03:32
Oilfurnace1MY KEYBOARD IS BROKEN...03:33
albuntuOilfurnace1 : than buy another one. lol. just kidding03:33
Predator106heh03:33
albuntuadministrator : try opening konsole03:33
Oilfurnace1TOMRROW I AM03:33
Predator106Oilfurnace1: please use the onscreen keyboard :) j/k03:34
Oilfurnace1LOL03:34
Oilfurnace1I GOT TO GO ANYWAYS03:34
Oilfurnace1CYA03:34
administratorok03:34
administratoradministrator@localhost:~$ then prompt... now what???03:35
albuntuadministrator : try sudo apt-get install package_name03:36
Predator106why does youtube suck the arse so much? Certain videos will stream really really fast, others won't stream at all or extremely, extremely slowly03:37
administratorcool thank you ie found the prblem another package is listed but is not available and that it may man that the package is missing or available from another source, thanks guys03:39
albuntuadministrator : no problem03:44
Predator106albuntu: was wonderin' when you would say something, I felt obligated to say something even though I felt like I had done so little :)03:45
albuntuPredator106 : lol03:45
albuntui just saw it03:45
albuntu:P03:45
Predator106heh03:45
albuntuanyways it doesnt make a difference03:45
Predator106well, a thank you left unreplied feels like not much of a thank you.03:46
albuntugoing to sleep because its 5 am here :S03:47
albuntugoodbye all03:47
Predator106cya03:47
albuntubye Predator106 ;)03:47
Predator106hopefully i'll see you around =)03:47
albuntusure03:48
albuntu;)03:48
administratorthanks again ill call back im sure as im new and i can reasure ill be back, thanks once again yuo are cool people for helping03:51
Predator106your very welcome03:51
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unty_punkcan anyone help me keep my network connection?05:10
unty_punkit seems like it dies every 20-30 mins05:10
alakhiausing wireless?05:11
unty_punkyeah05:11
unty_punkother computers connected to same router are fine/unaffected./05:12
alakhiahow do you reconnect?05:12
unty_punkthe connection times out.05:12
unty_punklike..05:12
unty_punkif you knotice05:12
unty_punkthers like 3 unitypunks in here05:12
alakhiayup05:12
unty_punkon knetwork it shows as staying connected the whole time.05:13
alakhiaso, how do you get your networking back? do you log out and log back in?05:13
unty_punkno05:13
unty_punkit just comes back in a few.05:13
alakhiaanything to do with power management by any chance?05:14
aitdunty_punk: DHCP or static IP?05:14
unty_punki didnt change anything in wireless/power managment.05:14
unty_punkdhcp05:14
unty_punkserver is giving it a static ip05:14
aitdunty_punk a real server or a SOHO router acting as a DHCP server?05:15
unty_punkits a wrt54g, running ddwrt05:15
unty_punklol05:17
unty_punkthere goes clone 105:17
alakhiaso, it used to work and now doesn't ?05:17
unty_punkit worked fine when i was running windows.05:17
alakhiaso, it never worked fine on kubuntu?05:17
unty_punknope05:17
aitdunty_punk: Ok If I understand correctly then, you have a wireless router that is supposed to be giving you a static IP on connection05:17
unty_punkyeah05:18
syockIf screen goes black after enabling desktop effects, does that mean my gpu isn't supported?05:18
aitdDo you have the router set to limit certain MAC wirless addresses?05:18
unty_punknope05:19
aitdunty_punk Might try that first. It was what was causing the same kind of problem with my home network. IP conflicts that were solved using the Mac to IP address assignments instead05:20
unty_punkso assign the ip to the mac addy in router config?05:21
unty_punkbrb05:21
alakhiaunty_punk: i have no idea what is going on05:21
alakhiasorry05:21
aitdunty_punk yes05:21
aitdunty_punk also if and when you notice connectivity loss again, see if you can still ping the router and then the gateway05:22
syockoff to restart....05:23
unitypunkokay05:33
unitypunkthe mac addy is bound to ip.05:33
aitdunty_punk you seem to have signed in with two nicks at the same time05:33
unitypunkyes...05:34
unitypunktwo seperate devices.05:34
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aitdunty_punk ah05:34
aitdunty_punk Hopefully the issue is solved05:34
unity`laptopill watch it from here..05:35
unity`laptopand see if it times out..05:35
unity`laptoplol05:35
aitdunty_punk: If not double check that your router is using its own IP to the ISP (network connection sharing)05:35
unity`laptopaitd,  its a little confusing. but the router is a reapeter05:36
unity`laptopwith its own dhcp.05:36
unity`laptopbouncing from my modem05:36
unity`laptopwich is 192.168.1.x-xx05:36
unity`laptopand the repeater is 192.168.2.x-xxx05:37
unity`laptopthe bouncer has all ports open via modem dhcp/firewall05:37
unity`laptopi think it would classify as a subnet05:38
aitdunty_punk: Have not used a setup like that but still think the mac to IP addressing will do the trick05:39
aitdWhat does arp give you?05:39
unity`laptoparp?05:40
aitdunty_punk your arp tables. Command arp -a05:40
unity`laptopokay05:40
unity`laptopbrb05:40
unitypunk__DD-WRT (192.168.2.1) at 00:06:25:F5:33:17 [ether] on wlan005:41
aitdunty_punk can you ping the modem IP ok?05:42
unitypunk__ping 192.168.1.1?05:43
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unitypunk__yep05:43
aitdunty_punk if that is your modem.05:43
unitypunk__pings fine.05:43
aitdk05:43
aitdunty_punk I suppose some monitoring is in order for a while then. The only other thing I could think of offhand05:44
unity`laptopwe'll wait and see.05:45
aitdunty_punk ...actually scratch the other idea. Thought about it some and it made no sense after the fact lol05:45
unity`laptopother idea?05:46
aitdunty_punk: yeah. I was thinking about the link between the modem and the router, but if you can ping the modem ok...05:46
aitdunty_punk: my thought was useless.05:47
unity`laptoplol05:47
unity`laptopnext on my list of things to do..05:47
unity`laptopget ssh working05:47
aitdunty_punk: maybe run wireshark or tshark and see what changes may or may not occur over the time period between connectivtiy losses05:47
aitdunty_punk lanmap has come in handy for me to track down network issues too.05:48
unitypunk__seems stable right now..05:48
unitypunk__shit05:49
aitdunty_punk good deal... got to fly for now.05:49
unitypunk__how would i edit no-ip config?05:49
aitdunitpunk: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/No-IP.com_Client05:51
unitypunk__ohh i could use that..05:51
unitypunk__thnaks :)05:51
jorge_español05:52
aitdunitypunk__ I have no other ideas about that one. Just happened to have google up at the time... :) good luck. have to go.05:52
kubuserguys is domino in any respository? or is it something people must install without repository06:24
kubuser?06:24
Dr_willis_!domino06:25
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about domino06:25
Dr_willis_No idea on that.. sorry06:25
geekhmm06:29
kubuserDr_willis_: thanks. :)06:29
geekdomino as in the lotus notes one?06:29
kubusergeek: no, one of theme (rendering engines) or something for KDE GUI.06:30
geekkde-style-domino - Domino widget style and kwin decoration for KDE3 appears to be in my repos06:31
kubusergeek: cool....06:31
kubusergeek: which repo...? I think I have all checked.... but apt-get install didn't find kde-style-domino.06:32
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geekkubuser: no idea. maybe i could pastebin my sources.lst?06:34
kubusergeek: hmmm.... searching in Adept.06:35
geekhttp://pastebin.com/m734582dc i have all those + medibuntu06:35
unitypunk__mannn06:35
kubusergeek: thanks. :) looking thru.06:35
geek(one thing i love about ubuntu based distros. they have EXCELLENT third party repos ;p)06:36
kubuserrunning konq, Adept, konsole, irssi on a pII really take juice....06:36
kubusergeek: hehe, coming from gentoo I get confused between repos. Just like one repo base. :)06:37
kubusergeek: but K/X/Ubuntu's decission is understandable.06:37
geekkubuser: well, you only really need the basics. additional repos give stuff that the main distro can't or hasn't bothered to package06:39
kubuserbut all the fun is in the extras.... no. :)06:39
kubuserthe litlte dominos and the adesklets and the other neat things.06:40
geekyeah06:40
geeki kinda doubt gentoo's emerge (thats what its called) repos have *everything* do they? ;p06:40
kubusergeek: no they don't have everything. But most of them are in there. That way new overlays have to be added for really weird stuff... like experimental KDE4 support so the main devs don't wanna support it.06:41
kubuserbut commonly used things like domino for themeing would probably be in there. really a n00b in kde. used to run xfce.06:42
geekkubuser: additional repos are equivilent to your 'overlays' i guess ;p06:42
geeklol06:42
geekwith a PII xfce sounds like a better choice unless you maxed out your ram06:42
kubuseryeah that's why went with xfce. then with dwm. then alternated. now to try kubuntu blew away the machine and reinstalled kubuntu. KDE is pretty cool. also had kde3 installed on gentoo. never really used it....06:43
kubuserso where is this sources.lst file supposed to go?06:44
Dr_willis_ in /etc/apt/ normally06:44
Dr_willis_but now a days one dosent alter sources.list much. theres 'includes' that can get added in. :)06:44
Dr_willis_but  just rember to 'sudo apt-get update' after changing hte sources/repos06:45
kubusererrrr includes? (begin headache)....06:45
Dr_willis_yes. you can have several different 'sources.list' parts that get merged together06:45
Dr_willis_then to remove one repo. you just delete the one file06:45
Dr_willis_not messing about with an editor/config file06:45
Dr_willis_ the medibuntu repo - gives such an example in how they document setting up their repo06:46
Dr_willis_!medibuntu06:46
ubottumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org06:46
Dr_willis_sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list06:46
kubuserDr_willis_: ok this sources.list.d part sounds familiar and cool. so I'll stuff the new .list file in there. :) then do an update?06:47
Dr_willis_that   /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list file gets 'included' in the repositories listing used.06:47
Dr_willis_or add them to a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/06:47
Dr_willis_you MUST update, after changing those things06:47
kubuserright my medibuntu was in there.06:47
kubuserwill do (update). :)06:47
internet_master_im trying to install docsis on kubuntu and get this error in the terminal while using the make command /home/rocky/Desktop/docsis/src/docsis.c:77: undefined reference to `floor'06:47
internet_master_docsis_encode.o: In function `encode_hexstr':06:47
internet_master_/home/rocky/Desktop/docsis/src/docsis_encode.c:337: undefined reference to `floor'06:47
internet_master_what does this mean and what do I need to do to fix it06:48
Dr_willis_compiling from souce.. can be such a bother.06:48
kubuserDr_willis_: so it the files have overlapping deps, that won't cause problems....06:48
Dr_willis_kubuser,  proberly not.06:49
Dr_willis_kubuser,  proberly get a warning about them06:49
Dr_willis_!find docsis06:49
ubottu'find' is disabled06:49
* Dr_willis_ wonders what docsis is06:49
Dr_willis_!info docsis06:49
ubottuPackage docsis does not exist in hardy06:49
sigma_zawhich program produces the best xvid rips of dvds? i need realy high quality in 700mb06:49
kubuserDr_willis_: sounds ok. :) anything sounds fine.06:50
internet_master_it is a program used to read configuration files of a docsis cable modem06:50
Dr_willis_sigma_za,  most are just front ends to the various encoding tools out.. so ive rarely seen much quality diff.06:50
Dr_willis_if 2 tools are calling ffmpeg or mencoder with the same options.. the outpout should look the same.06:50
kubuserDr_willis_: gentoo compiles everything. Do you have a rough idea how long it takes to compile a 1M source file on a pII? in Ubuntu even downloading a 10M files is faster.06:50
sigma_zawhats the diff between transcode and mencoder?06:51
Dr_willis_kubuser,  i used gentoo for a long time.. :) then got sick of it06:51
Dr_willis_!info mencoder06:51
ubottumencoder (source: mplayer): MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0~rc2-0ubuntu13 (hardy), package size 3603 kB, installed size 8356 kB06:51
Dr_willis_!info ffmpeg06:51
ubottuffmpeg (source: ffmpeg): multimedia player, server and encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20070307-5ubuntu7.1 (hardy), package size 187 kB, installed size 664 kB06:51
Dr_willis_those 2 seem to be the most common tools to  encode videos. there may be others.06:51
kubuserDr_willis_: Yeah I really really liked gentoo. Helped me learn how the system is put together. Plus it could really allow fine tuning on this pII. with XFCE lightweight. But now just trying kubuntu. kinda slow but still runs fine. Still run gentoo on the main one.06:52
internet_master_im thinking there is a missing package06:52
Dr_willis_avidemux - a free video editor - gtk version06:52
Dr_willis_internet_master_,  yep.. or that source is including somtning wrongly06:52
internet_master_that I dont have installed '06:52
sigma_zado they give really different results?06:52
Dr_willis_sigma_za,  ive never noticed much diff..   then again - they got 10000+ options  so  i imagine they can differ.06:53
sigma_za!info avidemux06:53
ubottuavidemux (source: avidemux): a free video editor - gtk version. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.4.1-0.0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 2979 kB, installed size 7880 kB06:53
internet_master_i tried googleing for undefined reference to floor but couldnt find anything06:53
Dr_willis_i normally dont want to spend 3+ hrs reencoding a video im going to watch once at work then toss it out.06:53
kubuserDr_willis_: any ideas how to go about moving from gutsy to hardy or intrepid?06:54
sigma_zahave you used dvdrip?06:54
Dr_willis_floor is a common 'command' to find the  integer part of a #. rounding down.. :) but im not sure what that code is doing.. so it maybe some other  command.06:54
Dr_willis_kubuser,  i alwyas do clean installs.06:54
Dr_willis_!upgrade | kubuser06:54
ubottukubuser: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes06:54
kubuserDr_willis_: hmmm. for upgrade you do not recommend cross version installs? too cluttered?06:55
kubuserDr_willis_: all good to know.06:55
Dr_willis_cross version?06:55
Dr_willis_when a new releae comes out. I normally keep my /home and do a clean install06:55
kubuserDr_willis_: cooking words here. cross version meaning from one major version upgrading to another major version as opposed to a fresh installed like you said.06:55
Dr_willis_i have my own scripts that then install the normal packages i like installed.. and do whatever tweaks i like to do.06:55
kubuserDr_willis_: so you have a /home mounted on a different disk/partition or something?06:56
sigma_zaintrepid feels really quick. but how do you configure nfs shares in it?06:56
Dr_willis_I often have /home on its own disk.. depending on the system06:59
Dr_willis_!nfs06:59
ubottunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.06:59
Dr_willis_I imagine the same as ya confogure NFS on the other releases. :)06:59
Dr_willis_I just edit /etc/exports06:59
kubusergeez doing update then install domino is upgrading me to hardy.07:00
kubuser'coz of blindly putting in geek's sources.list in my sources.list.d folder.07:00
kubuserdumb thing to do.07:01
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geekkubuser: .... you might need to do dist-upgrade if its beween versions07:03
scarletgreets everyone07:03
kubusergeek: hehe, it's doing own thang now. should've paid attention. however, it's probably better to let it just complete all the upgrades it does. Then to do a dist-upgrade then assess the damage. :)07:04
* kubuser greets scarlet07:04
geekkubuser: i did mention to take a look, not use it >_>07:05
scarlethow do I get WoW to run on 8.10? I moved the files from the x86_64 version to the i386 version, because I was told that trying to get 32 wine to work under 64 was more hassle than it was worth, and I still can't get it07:05
kubusergeek: no worries. how else would one learn. :) I was being lazy instead of going thru all the entries, just wanted to install domino and get the themes going. :)07:06
Dr_willis_I would check the wine app database07:06
Dr_willis_!appdb07:06
ubottuThe Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org07:06
scarletI even tried to do it the idiot proof way and use cross over......yeah......that didn't work so well.  the installer keeps telling me iI need to d/l files I already have07:06
geekkubuser: i'll be going down that path in a bit anyway, i'm pondering swapping to intrepid, but i'm not entirely sure i want to XD07:06
kubusergeek: so, also good to see what hardy offers. hehe still using gutsy here. hopefully my ndiswrapper doesn't get jacked in the upgrade.07:07
kubusergeek: took a while and some scripting to get the wifi working. but now it's cool.07:07
jmichaelxis anyone else having problems playing videos with kaffeine? as of at least today, i can no longer play most videos in kaffeine (on two different machines).07:08
scarletI don't see a distro for wine for intrepid ibex, would using the HH distro work?07:08
Dr_willis_!intrepid07:09
ubottuAlpha Software: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for K/ubuntu 8.10, due October 30th 2008 - #ubuntu+1 for discussion. Kubuntu Intrepid will have KDE 4 as the default Desktop Environment - see  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidVersion | Warning lots of breaking software between now and October!07:09
Dr_willis_Given how Ibex is still a work in progress.......07:09
Dr_willis_the 'safe' thing would be to use HH, and the latest wine from the winehq repos07:09
kubuserKDE4? Ok, that's cool. It's the right motivation to install intrepid.07:10
Dr_willis_i find kde4 to be motivation to NOT install intrepid07:10
Dr_willis_:)07:10
kubuserDr_willis_: kde4 has some serious potential to offer eye candy. I love eye candy. XP, Vista, and such....07:11
jmichaelxDr_willis_: same here. it is why i am contemplating ditching kubuntu07:11
kubuserso KDE4 with it's eye candy and dashboard stuff.... is very cool. (at least in looks). I have a prelimiary version of kde4 on gentoo. but it's doesn't do much as kde team hasn't released much of kde4 stuff....07:11
Dr_willis_'Eye candy causes Ocular Cavities'07:11
kubuserDr_willis_: hehe cavities....07:12
Dr_willis_Candy... Droooolll07:12
* Dr_willis_ wants 'ear candy'07:12
kubuserok so is there a command that will tell me what my kubuntu version is now? apt-get just finished.07:12
Dr_willis_but stay away from Nose Candy.. that can get you 5-10  in the pen.07:12
Dr_willis_:)07:12
Dr_willis_you may need to reboot if you did a major upgrade07:13
kubusernose candy? :-|07:13
kubuseryeah, I just saw a generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic07:13
kubuserdon't know why i'm already running kernel 2.6.22-14-generic.07:13
Dr_willis_kubuser,  slang for cocaine :)07:13
kubuserDr_willis_: hmmm, didn't know. interesting....07:14
jmichaelxi just want to be able to play videos in kaffeine. unless i am missing something, it has always seemed to me that the maintenance of multimedia apps in kubuntu has been consistently wreckless07:14
Dr_willis_I find it much easier if i just never use kaffine07:14
Dr_willis_:) gmplayer/xine/vlc -  and the w32codecs  package - and i can play most anything i find07:15
Dr_willis_gnomes default player (totem?) has issues also07:15
jmichaelxDr_willis_: it is a fine app, but the way it is maintained in kubuntu is the worst07:15
jmichaelxi hate totem07:15
kubuserI personally put in effort to install mplayer. Once it works, it takes care of everything.07:15
Dr_willis_I use mplayer on so many different disrots/machines/things.. i cant stand to use anytying else07:15
kubuseralso with lirc support, it's just really cool.07:16
jmichaelxmplayer is able to play about anything, but it is primitive in some ways.07:16
Dr_willis_I got a wireless keyboard = ultimate remote.07:16
kubuserok got domino installed.07:16
kubuserwireless keyboard? that's cheating.07:16
Dr_willis_I like mplayers ' play at 110%' or faster features... :)07:16
jmichaelxis there anyone in here able to play videos in kaffeine at the moment? i believe i have only had this problem for a day or so at the most07:17
jmichaelx?07:17
scarletcheers07:17
kubuserplay at 110%. so you can watch faster? or watch more in teh same time?07:18
Dr_willis_kaffine just crashed here.. (over vnc) :) so it may not be a good test07:18
kubuserok so how do I check my main distro from cli?07:19
kubuseror distro version.07:20
Dr_willis_fsb_release -a07:20
Dr_willis_i think07:20
Dr_willis_or lsb_release -a07:21
kubuserlsb it is. :) cool thanks. :) says gutsy. but will be interesting to see what it says after rebooting.07:22
Dr_willis_'kubuntu power activate! reboot!'07:22
internet_master_uname -r07:22
Colonel_Panichey can anybody tell me what's the easiest way to change my root partition size?07:22
Colonel_PanicI need to expand it by about 10-20 GB07:22
internet_master_fdisk07:23
Dr_willis_fdisk does NOT resize parittions07:23
Colonel_Panichow can I do this?07:23
Dr_willis_gparted can07:23
kubuserawwww kubuntu command not found.07:24
Dr_willis_boot a live cd with gparted, and use it to resize.07:24
Colonel_PanicI can resize the partition without deleting its contents?07:24
Dr_willis_backup imporntatn data first.. of course07:24
Dr_willis_resize with gparted does not lose data07:24
kubusergparted definitely is very cool. it will resize your partition reliably.07:24
Dr_willis_unles sof course ya get a power outtage during the resize operation.. or the cat unplugs the pc.. or other nasty things07:24
Colonel_PanicOK so I need to boot to a liveCD...07:24
kubuserheck it will resize ntfs also without losing files.07:25
Colonel_PanicOK I'll do that07:25
kubuserDr_willis_: don't even joke about power outage during resize....07:25
Colonel_Panicthanks07:25
kubuserthat would be torture.07:25
internet_master_why would you even want windows07:25
internet_master_windows sucks07:25
geekkubuser: unless its vista NTFS07:25
internet_master_just use your entire disk for linux07:25
Colonel_Panichow about a power outage while flashing BIOS firmware?07:25
internet_master_you can use floppies to restore07:26
kubuserColonel_Panic: hehe, don't think of such tortures....07:26
geekinternet_master_: some people need windows apps, or prefer the safety net while switching over07:26
* geek dual boots07:26
Colonel_PanicI only have Linuxc on this machine07:26
kubusergeek: so vista ntfs is different?07:26
Dr_willis_kubuser,  how about the grandson hitting the pretty blue power button on grandpas pc.07:26
Dr_willis_:)07:26
internet_master_use alternatives07:26
internet_master_thats what i do07:26
Colonel_PanicOKm I'm'a reboot07:26
kubuserinternet_master_: because some apps only run on windows.07:26
geekkubuser: yeah. i used to triple boot. hillarious thing was vista's chkdsk didn't catch it, XP does07:26
internet_master_use and alternative07:26
Colonel_Panicpray to St. Linus for me07:27
geekinternet_master_: funny thing is other than games, the one piece of essential windows software i need is open source07:27
kubuserinternet_master_: if you can find alternatives and it works for you good. For some there are not alternatives or they aren't adequate.07:27
Colonel_PanicOK I'm outz07:27
* geek hates gimp and PS and HAS to have paint.net for graphics manipularion07:27
kubusergeek: but vista is such a reliable OS....!!!!07:28
kubusergeek: *gasp*. gimp hater!07:28
geeki wish miguel icaza would hurry up and port it already XD07:28
internet_master_linux comes with everything you need you dont need anything else I have a 500 gb hard drive and nothing is installed except whatever came with kubuntu07:28
kubuserinternet_master_: linux comes with everything you need. not everyone else.07:28
internet_master_people always download crap and thats what slows there computer down07:29
kubusergeek: what is being ported over?07:29
internet_master_what more does a person need chat internet and an office suite07:30
Dr_willis_I hate PS :)07:30
geekkubuser: paint.net07:31
Dr_willis_I still miss good old Deluxe Paint on my Amiga07:31
geekfor one thing i can't grok how layers work in gimp07:31
kubuserpaint.net? not familiar. gimp has been a real nice change from paint shop pro and other expensive suites....07:32
kubusergeek: for layers you just use google. LOL07:32
kubusergeek: dont' get how those things work either. But simple things are cool.07:32
Dr_willis_ive grabbed a book or 2 on gimp. that helps ya learn how to use layers. :)07:32
kubuserDr_willis_: ok deluxe paint is probably before mah time.07:32
Dr_willis_layers are often the key to useing it  properly07:33
kubuserok layers are easy. What I don't get is the 10 different places to configure the KDE gui. One for background, one for widgets, one for midgets, .... can't one theme file fix all?07:34
geekkubuser: layers works really well and simply on paint.net XD07:34
kubusergeek: since I'm not a graphics person, my needs are simple. Rotate, crop, resize, and drop shadow... :) For more I just google a tutorial and just follow it. It's still nice to be able to learn layers and use them....07:35
geekkubuser: this does all that.07:35
* Dr_willis_ missed how layers became a discussion of the kde gui...07:35
kubusergeek: and free...?07:35
* kubuser whispers something to Dr_willis_ 07:36
Dr_willis_in kde a 'theme' file - defines the other 'parts'  to use for that specific theme.07:36
Dr_willis_the other parts being the icon theme, border decor, widgets.. and.. somthing else.. i forget. :)07:36
kubuserso technically a theme files could control background, widget style, color scheme and all?07:36
geekkubuser: yup07:36
Dr_willis_ a 'theme' file can have no real data at all in it. :)07:37
kubuserso in other words kde-look.org just has too many incomplete submissions.07:37
Dr_willis_but a 'set' of those parts can be a theme07:37
Dr_willis_kubuser,  so does gnome-look.org07:37
Dr_willis_both are very disorganized07:37
Dr_willis_Often a 'window decoration' is in the theme catatory07:37
kubuserDr_willis_: right. but the nice thing to have would be to download a theme that actually sets your kde to resemble the screenshot.07:37
Dr_willis_or a widget set is in the theme catagory. its just one part that can beused in a theme.07:37
geekkubuser: http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2007/May-15-1.html linux port. getpaint.net for the windows version07:37
kubusergeek: for windows. why would you use windows. didn't internet_owner just describe to you that all you need comes in linux. internet chat and im?07:38
kubuserwait, internet, notepad and chat.07:38
kubuser:P07:38
kubuserDr_willis_: yeah gnome-look.org is also very disorganized.07:39
kubuserthey show you a screenshot. you think after downloading the thing your desktop will look like that. turns out what you download only has a font-size setting. so you're still wondering how to make it look cool07:39
kubusergeek: j/k of course.07:39
geekkubuser: actually he's half right for 99% of users ;p07:40
Dr_willis_kubuser,  thats what ya get when ya get 1000's of peope just submitting stuff.. :)07:40
kubusergeek: to be honest, I find more and more things that just require windows anymore....07:41
Dr_willis_I find more and more - i dont need windows. :)07:41
kubuserlinux is playing well tho. more people are writing more software.07:41
Dr_willis_but i do like some features of NERO under windows.. thats about all i need it for.07:41
kubuserDr_willis_: lot of stuff in my usage still require windows. but linux has come a long way and can be used fulltime for my many needs. I find multimedia stuff to be completely transparent between teh two. If not the linux one slightly better.07:42
Dr_willis_I find media playback better under linux, and network ussage/transfering stuff.. better.. but for some reason on windows.. i can get the volume louder on my laptop then under linux. :)07:42
Dr_willis_tracking down all the codecs and stuff for windows.. can be a real pain07:43
Dr_willis_and actually using windows media player.. egads...07:43
geekkubuser: funny, but k3b and imgburn has replaced most things i used to use nero for07:43
Dr_willis_mplayer for windows - to the rescue07:43
kubuserDr_willis_: hehe, I really like the wmplayer....07:43
Dr_willis_geek,  i just use the nero features to  convert avi --> dvd  stuff..07:43
geekDr_willis_: my winboxes have cccp07:43
Dr_willis_I cant get wmplayer to even play half the stuff.. and i have installed cccp07:43
geekDr_willis_: hmm, that i don't do07:43
Dr_willis_or the player sort of works.. some times..07:43
kubuserDr_willis_: also in windows my system really had to be around 90% CPU usage before the video will chop and voice will chop. In linux tho, doing smaller things will make video choppy.07:44
Dr_willis_i have a nice 'remote controll' for the laptop.. that only works with windows media player. :(07:44
kubuserDr_willis_: the remote control don't do lirc?07:44
Dr_willis_kubuser,  i transfer files over the network under windows and  the whole system gets choppy.  video and just chatting here..  under linux i can be uploading/downloading/transcoding..and still watch videos fine07:45
kubuserlinux is main issue is the XServer and the whole graphics model. Other than that it's coming along very nicely.07:45
Dr_willis_i havent tried too hard to use it kubuser .   This is a HP DV2000 - they tried to make it a big 'multimedia' thing.. but  its a bit of a joke in that area.07:45
geekkubuser: there's a few attempts to replace X but none seel to be popular07:46
kubuserIn windows, I can't do alt-space c and it will close the window. If busy then it will post the keys to the window as soon as it gets a chance. In linux it will just eat up the keys if types too fast....07:46
Dr_willis_they got a 'power on' button and a 'dvd' and a 'media player' buttons that just power up and auto-run the dvd player, or media player thats a front end to wmp. and  it really sucks. :)07:46
kubusergeek: would be nice to have faster stuff....07:46
geekkubuser: always ;p07:47
kubuserDr_willis_: funny our video experiences are totally reversed in choppy ness.07:47
Dr_willis_Everytime X does some major changes..  people scream so much.. you would think the world is going to end.07:47
geekXD07:47
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geekDr_willis_: probably cause so much of the user experience is tied to it?07:47
Dr_willis_kubuser,  yep.07:47
kubuserright, but wonder how MACs do it. meaning do they have their own graphics stuff on top of freebsd or...?07:47
Dr_willis_geek,  yep. 8.04 came out with that almost-all-autoconfiguraing X feature.. and its caused quite a few issues..07:48
Dr_willis_kubuser,  I know you can get X for macs.. but not sure what they use.07:48
kubuserDr_willis_: my HP has a remote that has bunch of stuff on it. It was cool to map all the keys using lirc files for mplayer and it just allow me to assign actions. Such as fullscreen unfullscreen. Which lack in regular window media player.07:48
Dr_willis_kubuser,  mine proerly can work with lirc then.. im just too lazy to try to get it working07:49
Dr_willis_Wireless keyboard..  and im happy07:49
kubuserDr_willis_: 'coz for using freebsd, they GUI stuff on MACs is fast and super shiny.07:49
geekkubuser: they have their own compositing display system. X is needed for a few apps like openoffice though07:49
kubusergeek: yeah it's a nice system. very cool.07:49
geekthey also have the advantage of only needin to support a limited range of hardware07:50
kubusermy main issue with X is the lost keys. If you are a keyboard person and do all shortcuts, X makes me repeat a lot of keys. Windows never does. Just processed them when it gets to them. So the comparison makes a big different in perception.07:50
Dr_willis_'better support through limitations!'07:50
karlyasmingeek linux has limited amount of hardware as well07:50
geekkarlyasmin: i disagree07:51
Dr_willis_I find linux supports more hardware then vista does...07:51
geekwith windows, hardware manufacturers do support07:51
Dr_willis_linux has much much better 'old hardware' support.07:51
karlyasmin64 bit vista or 32 bit vista?07:51
kubuservista is getting better. recent usage hasn't made me run out the door .... so.07:51
kubuserso there.07:51
karlyasminyeah thats why linux is cool07:51
Dr_willis_My hp printer has drivers built into vista... WITH only 1/2 the features missing that it had under xp with the drivers from hp....07:52
* geek runs linux on a fairly modern laptop ;p07:52
karlyasminso why do they put linpus on the asus laptop?07:52
geekoh, and a 8 year old desktop acting as a basic server07:52
* kubuser runs linux on a pII from 2001 with 700MHz single core.07:52
geekkarlyasmin: er, i thought the eee ran zandros?07:52
Dr_willis_so vista took away all the printers features thati actually used.07:52
karlyasminwhy didnt they just put kubuntu on it?07:52
geekkubuser: 700 mhz is PIII07:52
karlyasminzandros?07:53
karlyasminno linpus07:53
geekxandros07:53
kubuserDr_willis_: it's not a restriction. it's freedeom to enjoy less features.... it's for your own good. repeat after the vendor. It's for your own good.07:53
geekhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASUS_Eee_PC07:53
karlyasminasus works well with kubuntu?07:53
kubusergeek: hmmm.... this is a pII for sure. So you're saying it's even slower? the sticker on it still says pII.07:53
geekthe dell mini 9 runs ubuntu netbook remix07:53
Dr_willis_kubuser,  but i really WANT to download 124+mb of drivers for my scanner/printer combo that include yet ANOTHER photo manager/printing app that tries to sell me a 'printing service package'07:53
geekkubuser: i'm running a PIII 450. they did NOT make 700 mhz pII ;p07:54
geekkubuser: try lshw (you may need to install it)07:54
kubuserDr_willis_: yeah those extra limited slideshow viewing apps are so annoying that hp installs.07:54
kubusergeek: that's a lot of crap that scrolled by.07:55
karlyasmingeek why run linux on a higher machine? low end celeron runs faster that a dual core pentium    kubuntu vs. vista07:55
karlyasminthan07:55
geekkarlyasmin: who said i run vista? ;p07:55
kubuserproduct: Mobile Pentium II07:56
geekkubuser: laptop?07:56
geekwhat processor speed, it'll say ;p07:56
kubuserslot: Microprocessor size: 400MHz capacity: 400MHz07:56
geeksee? ;p07:56
kubuserrighty....07:56
karlyasmincentrino?07:56
geektoo old ;p07:56
kubusergeek: hehe, you're right.07:56
kubuserso it's even slower. LOL. But it's running this kubuntu fine. using it now.07:56
geekkubuser: how much ram?07:56
kubuserwell until one tries to load openoffice.07:56
kubusersize: 256MB07:57
geekahh07:57
geekthats a fair chunk but i'd try to have more07:57
geekmy server has 640 mb and was blazing fast when i ran kubuntu on it...07:57
geekwell as blazing fast as a pIII 450 can be XD07:58
kubusergeek: this laptop is so old why invest more. just keep it around to use linux flavors. Plus might turn it in to company to request update. It's company laptop.07:58
geekkubuser: thats a good idea ;p07:58
kubuserit's the X that slow things down. The products like firefox.07:58
geekkubuser: the server was free ;p07:58
geekkubuser: go xless? ;p07:58
geekirssi + screen + w3m? ;p07:59
karlyasminfirefox is slow?07:59
karlyasminno way07:59
kubuseronce you get used to using Chrome on windows, then move to linux on my dual core 2.6GHz  machine, it's painful to watch FF3 crawl along.07:59
geekchrome is awesome07:59
kubuseropening multiple tabs after first 3 tabs just starts taking long to respond.07:59
* geek can't wait for a proper linux port of it08:00
karlyasminthere is no linux version of chrome08:00
kubusergeek: chrome is pretty cool. It does have a few things it doesn't render properly. Such as my trading account screens.... which FF3 and IE6/7 all render.08:00
kubuserkarlyasmin: it's coming later.08:00
geekkubuser: ooh, forex.com?08:01
kubusernow using IE after chrome feels like you used to feel when using FF on windows after using IE.08:01
kubuserlol08:01
geekthere's a codeweavers port of it using wine rihgt now IIRC08:01
kubusergeek: zecco.08:01
geekkubuser: ahh, the site my dad uses also has issues08:01
* geek was proud when dad actually installed an alternate browser himself ;p08:01
kubuserzecco is charging 0 commisions for month of oct. trade as much as you want.08:02
kubusergeek: yeah after a while you start hopingg your family wouldn't be so luddite, no...08:02
karlyasminok i have a question kubuntu 8.04 has a problem with gcc compiler .......did they fix it yet?08:02
kubuserand you're happy to help or explain things but most don't want the help.08:02
geekkubuser: they are ok with getting help. they just don't want to learn ;p08:03
kubusergeek: they like you to do stuff. Just not explain the technical part.08:03
kubuserhehe.08:03
geekyup08:04
kubuserhehe.08:04
karlyasminok i have a question kubuntu 8.04 has a problem with gcc compiler .......did they fix it yet?08:04
karlyasminno idea?08:04
kubusergeek: it's 2am. time for catching Zzzz's.08:04
kubusergeek: so you have a good nite. :)08:04
geeklol08:04
geeknight08:04
kubuserDr_willis_: nite dude.08:04
kubusergeek: nite. :)08:04
geekits 3.05 pm ;p08:04
kubusergeek: you're in .... ok I give up....08:05
kubusergeek: asia somewhere?08:05
geeksingapore08:05
kubusereast asia?08:05
geekwhois would tell you ;p08:05
kubuserhmmm.....08:05
kubuser:)08:05
kubuserhehe so easy to just ask the person instead of /whois.08:05
kubuseranyway nite. :)08:05
kubuserevening :).08:06
infectotime to wake up08:08
infectogood morning ;)08:08
ehsanhi all08:09
ehsani,ve connected to internet now!!!08:09
ehsanbut my browser can't open any page08:09
ehsanwhy?08:09
ehsani use conqueror08:10
Dr_willis_seen others with thatissue..  often its  a proxy server setting..08:12
Dr_willis_try some other browsers?08:12
karlyasminehsan someone hacked into your isp and killed off the internet access08:13
karlyasminfor your account08:13
karlyasminhahaha had the same issue08:13
karlyasminoh wait you said you can chat?08:14
karlyasminbut you cant browse08:15
infectohe quit? :)08:17
karlyasminhe quit08:19
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saharagurlhi there08:24
saharagurlanyone to chat here?08:25
saharagurlhey08:28
saharagurlhi guyz08:33
saharagurlhelllooooo08:33
Dr_willis_Hmm.. weirdness.. Under Kde/Konqueror - i use the url    smb://FileServer/     and it shows a list of shares.. under gnome, it does NOT show the list of shares.. but  if i type in a name of  specific share. smb://FileServer/ShareName   gnome does see it and work...   anyone else noticed this issue?08:46
stdinthey use different systems for the smb:// protocol, Konqueror uses KIO slaves, and gnome probably uses gnome VFS08:48
Dr_willis_yea.. but why would gnome not be showing the shares? searching the forums/wiki pages now..  Ive noticed this befor.. but never paid much attention to it. Wanting to help file a bug report/trouble shoot the problem08:49
Dr_willis_reading some bug reports now on the isue. :) lets see what it says08:49
stdinmaybe the gnome one is only for accessing the shares, or has another way of listing the shares08:50
ehsani want a link to download envy08:50
stdin!envy08:51
ubottuenvyng is an updated version of the *UNSUPPORTED* envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository (envyng-gtk OR envyng-qt) we suggest you use envyng if every other (official/supported) method fails! it can have various results from works, to fails!!!  if you want the very latest drivers from the manufacturer you use them at your own risk08:51
Dr_willis_the hits im seeing refer to the gnome-keyring - aparently  the smb://Fileserver/ is supposed to pop up a username/pass dialog..  that does not appear however.. but it Does if you enter a share name like i did08:51
Dr_willis_could be i only notice  the issue rarely because i let gnome rember my smb share passwords..08:51
Dr_willis_this is a new install on a box i am  playing with.08:51
ehsanany link?08:52
stdinI haven't needed to use smb in a while, I mostly share between linux boxes where sftp/sshfs works fine ;)08:52
stdinehsan: it's in universe08:52
stdin!universe | ehsan08:52
ubottuehsan: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories08:52
Dr_willis_i just spent 30 min troubleshooting no sound on this machine.. and then realized that ages ago i had disabled the onboard soundcard in the bios... :)08:53
Dr_willis_thentook 10 min to Find out where to re-enable it.08:53
Dr_willis_Ok. this samba stuff is getting weirder... under KDE it sees the shares.. but its not showing all the directories In the share.. under gnome.. i enter the share name.. but it sees all the directories...09:22
Dr_willis_First i thoght it was due to weird directory names.. but the directoryits not showing is just called 'sh'09:23
delightDoes anybody know why 8.10 beta still includes an very old kdesvn client ? I'd think it would be smart to use the kde4 version http://kdesvn.alwins-world.de/wiki/DownLoads09:29
Dr_willis_unless the new svn version hsa bugs that make it unuseable...  but you may want to ask in #ubuntu+109:30
emilsedghhow can i see which directories are using most of my disc usage?09:41
oturan_hi09:41
Dr_willis_the konqueror file manager has a 'show size' feature that displays them in blocks..09:41
Dr_willis_or theres other gui tools that do the same09:41
Dr_willis_theres some command line ways also.. but i forget how09:42
oturan_I can't see clear video from kaffeine DVB. Do i need a codec or something for kaffeine? I have nvidea dirvers installed.09:43
ehsanstdin: i'm in adept now09:43
ehsanstdin: so how can i install envy by it?09:43
stdinehsan: what versions of Kubuntu do you have?09:43
Dr_willis_!info envyng09:43
ubottuPackage envyng does not exist in hardy09:43
Dr_willis_!envyng09:43
ubottuenvyng is an updated version of the *UNSUPPORTED* envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository (envyng-gtk OR envyng-qt) we suggest you use envyng if every other (official/supported) method fails! it can have various results from works, to fails!!!  if you want the very latest drivers from the manufacturer you use them at your own risk09:43
ehsanstdin: wait09:43
akashhi....I have a question regarding Updating Kubuntu.09:44
Dr_willis_the package name seems to be 'envyng-qt' or 'envyng-gtk' perhaps?09:44
ehsanstdin: 8.0409:44
stdinehsan: go to Adept -> Manage Repositories and make sure it setup like:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources09:44
shreyashello09:44
akashWhat R necessary links I need to add in sources.list in order to update Kubuntu 7.1009:45
oturan_any idea about kaffeine DVB problem?09:45
stdin!upgrade | akash09:46
ubottuakash: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes09:46
ehsanstdin: should i update server lists?09:46
stdinehsan: after changing what sources are enabled, yes. click the "Fetch Updates" button09:47
ehsanstdin: ok09:47
stdinehsan: then you should be able to install the envyng-qt package09:47
shreyashello anybody09:47
ehsanstdin: thanks a lot09:47
shreyasanyone ?09:47
shreyashello09:48
oturan_anyone help me?09:48
akashThanks ubottu...but I m getting foll error:- E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-restricted-extras09:48
shreyasno sound on compaq presario laptop running fedora 909:48
Dr_willis_And what does fedora have to do with Ubuntu?09:49
stdinakash: make sure you have set up your sources like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources09:49
shreyasdont i get solutions here ?09:49
shreyasfor fedora ?09:49
Dr_willis_shreyas,  fedora is a different linux disrto then ubuntu.09:49
Dr_willis_or Kubuntu - in this case.09:49
shreyasso where shall i look into ?09:49
Dr_willis_They proberly got their own channel. :)09:49
stdinshreyas: #fedora09:49
shreyasohhk thanks09:50
shreyashave a good day :-) cya09:50
oturan_anyone help me plz?09:50
shreyashelp ? @oturan tell me09:50
oturan_I can't see clear video from kaffeine DVB. Do i need a codec or something for kaffeine? I have nvidea dirvers installed.09:50
shreyas@ oturan : well if u cant see video .its probably ur mpeg or avi codecs missing09:51
shreyas@ oturan : u can download them free from repositories09:51
oturan_i watc h any movie i cant watch clearly DVB i mean digital TV09:52
Dr_willis_try some other video players perhaps.. and run them from the terminal looking for any error messages.09:52
* Dr_willis_ is not sur what you mean by DVD/Digital TV.09:52
Dr_willis_You are using Kaffine to watch tv onyour tv tuner card you mean to say?09:52
shreyas@oturan: u could use vlc media for that.its free n has all codecs for u09:52
oturan_yes axactly dwills watch TV09:53
Dr_willis_try some other tv tuner apps perhaps.09:53
Dr_willis_if they work then youknow its a kaffine issue09:53
oturan_yes i think so09:53
oturan_ok thank you anyway09:54
shreyaswelcome @ oturan09:56
dustmanhi10:01
dustmanIs it possible to open a link from kmail in new tab in konqueror instead of new window?10:02
haksellProbebly10:02
haksellBut its easier to open every link in a konqueror tab10:03
dustmanI'm bit lost in settings and google return many irrelevant results10:03
haksellThere is a section on default applications in the system settings10:03
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Frekusetting in konquerer itself ?10:05
Frekusettings - Configure konquerer - open links in new tab10:06
dustmanFreku: in what part of settings exactly?10:07
FrekuIn konquerer self10:07
FrekuMenu -settings10:07
dustmanFreku: I might be really dumb but I can't see Menu-settings10:10
dustmanBehavior to Performance10:10
dustmanbut no Menu10:10
dustmanops, found10:10
dustmanbut it still open links clicked in Kmail in new window in Konqueror10:11
dustmanworks10:12
dustmanthank you, Freku10:12
dustmanbtw, is it possible to tab several windows together under a single program bar, like in fluxbox?10:16
Dr_willis_Not that ive seen dustman10:16
Dr_willis_thats the 'big' feature of fluxbox. :) seen a few other window managers that can do it.10:16
Dr_willis_you could replace kwin with fluxbox if you wanted.10:16
dustmanwhat's good side of kwin comparing to fluxbox?10:17
Dr_willis_its designed to work with the rest of kde.10:18
dustmanmy impression is that kde really benefits from bigger screen10:19
dustmansince mine is 17", it's bit cluttered10:20
msshamsdo you suggest openoffice-kde or koffice?10:20
Dr_willis_i just use openoffice10:20
Dr_willis_never efen noticed a openoffice-kde10:20
dustmanalthough possibility to customize look like this of CDE is funny10:20
emilsedghmsshams: openoffice-kde just makes OO.o look like other kde applications and changes the icons, etc10:25
msshamsemilsedgh: so is this engines QT?10:26
albuntui never heard this and didnt know it existed :S10:27
emilsedghmsshams: nope10:27
msshamsemilsedgh: tell me please that gtk appleactions works fine on kde?10:28
msshamsapplications*10:28
Dr_willis_msshams,  err... all of them10:28
emilsedghmsshams: they do10:28
Frekumy pc froze  had to reset10:28
Frekufound the settings yet ?10:28
dustmanFreku: yep, thank you10:29
Frekuah ok10:30
msshamsemilsedgh: please introduce me replacement package of gimp, inkscape, bluefish and audacity for kde.10:30
Dr_willis_theres no need to 'replace' them.. they work fine under kde10:30
emilsedghmsshams: krita is good for simple jobs.as for inkscape, i still recommend inkscape.quanta is as good as bluefish and Amarok is the best music player out there10:31
emilsedghmsshams: but yeah, as Dr_willis_ said, they just work fine in kde10:31
msshamsDr_willis_: but, gtk applications has a good look on KDE?10:31
Dr_willis_ive rarely seen any issues with mixxing up kde and gnome these days.. ages ago there were some quirks.. but not  many that i know of now a days10:31
albuntuemilsedgh : i am with you. amarok is the best10:31
Dr_willis_msshams,  they can 'look/use' the kde themes  i rarely notice if im using a gnome or kde app.10:32
emilsedghalbuntu: indeed10:32
dustmandamn sound... simply stopped working for no reason10:32
dustmanis there way to re-initialize it w/o rebooting?10:33
msshamsthank you...10:33
Dr_willis_restart the alsa service?10:33
dustmanwell, 'ps aux | grep alsa ' show no such service10:34
Dr_willis_$ /etc/init.d/alsa-utils status10:35
Dr_willis_!alsa10:35
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP310:35
albuntusudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart10:35
albuntuor maybe just start10:35
Dr_willis_sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils work you lazy thing --please --just --work10:37
albuntuhahahahahahahaha10:37
dustmanwell, didn't help... back after reboot10:38
dustmanrestart worked10:42
Dr_willis_Yea! restart again ! it will make it even more better.10:42
dustmanDr_willis_: of course I will! ...in a week or so..10:43
Dr_willis_Do it now!10:46
Dr_willis_'new disk inserted, please reboot to allow system to reboot to get ready to reboot to allow reading of the disk'10:46
dustmanprobably last question for today: how to see non-latin metadata info for songs in amarok10:47
dustmanDr_willis_:  yep!10:47
* dustman typing 'sudo rm -rf /'10:47
stdindustman: do not post that in here!10:48
dustmanwhat? someone listened to this?10:49
Dr_willis_!ohmy | dustman10:50
ubottudustman: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.10:50
Dr_willis_:)10:50
dustman:(10:51
dustmanbtw, kde gives strange feeling for first time- although programs start subjectively slower, system uses fewer resources10:53
Frekui my car goes slower, my car uses fewer resources  :)10:54
Dr_willis_The older i get .. the  slower i startup also...10:55
albuntudustman : the new kde is economic. it looks forward to afford the bank crysis :P10:55
Frekuback to xfce ?10:56
dustmanneah, xfce is bloated10:57
dustmanfvwm210:57
dustman;)10:57
Dr_willis_jwm10:58
Dr_willis_I sort of like jwm + rox-filer10:58
dustmanI like *boxens10:59
ldphello10:59
Dr_willis_go try matchbox. :) its not related to Fluxbox/openbox/blackbox10:59
ldpopenbox is win10:59
ldp:D10:59
* dustman prefer flux :)11:00
Dr_willis_sawfish!11:00
dustmanhttp://matchbox-project.org/11:00
ldpI find Pek and ob the best11:01
Dr_willis_the matchbox packages under ubuntu.. need a little work. :(11:02
ldpKDE + Openbox == sheer bliss11:02
Dr_willis_it installs .. but dosent do the right things needed to get  desktop going.11:02
dustmanfluxbox, fvwm2, cwm <- in that order11:02
Dr_willis_I did see 'OLPC' Desktop packages for ubuntu.. and tried it out.. and couldent do diddly with it. :)11:02
ldpdustman: Have you tried wmii?11:02
ldpIt's sick fast, unbelievable11:02
Dr_willis_!info wmx11:03
ubottuPackage wmx does not exist in hardy11:03
Dr_willis_i used wmx for ages years ago also. :)11:03
dustmanldp: wasn't really fond of it11:03
dustmanI like using mouse11:03
dustmanbut not for file manipulation11:04
Frekuah the mouse generation :)11:04
Dr_willis_we keep both hands on the keyboard in my day!11:04
dustmanheh, these days are over11:05
Frekuwell 1 pushing away the cat from the keyboard11:05
Dr_willis_'you kids and your new-fangled cOmPuuter Moles!'11:05
Dr_willis_"You mean Mice Grandpa?"11:05
Dr_willis_'Mice/Moles/Rats.. they are all vermin!'11:05
dustmanDr_willis_: you don't use emacs by chance?11:06
Dr_willis_I use vi :)11:06
* dustman gets ready for new flames11:06
dustmandamn11:06
Dr_willis_i never did get into emacs that much11:06
Dr_willis_I used a variant of it on my amiga years ago.. but then had CygnusEd as my main editor.11:06
Dr_willis_and vi on the Mainframes at collage11:06
dustmangvim + mouse ;)11:07
Dr_willis_Every time i reread my using vi book.. i learn somthing new.11:07
dustmanthis is my first computer to work reasonably well with KDE11:08
Frekuso you finnaly got a pentium 311:09
dustmanha... ha....11:10
ldpI use SciTE11:27
njites11:38
lucas__hi everybody11:48
ldphello11:49
lucas__how are you?11:51
ajayacan anyone help me.. wht is GTK+? How to install it?11:52
ldpfine11:52
ldpajaya: GTK is a gui toolkit. the one for KDE is Qt, and the one for gnome is GTK11:52
ldpjust search adept for gtk, i forgot the package name11:53
ajayaya I tried..11:53
ajayabut I am not able to get any repository.11:53
ldphave you checked all repos in the preferences?11:54
ajayaya.11:55
ajayaI even tried to download it from the site of GTK.11:55
berkesis anyone here using strigi with success? Mine just keeps crashing, hanging or returns no result.11:59
berkesmaybe its a wrong setting?11:59
berkesit says "Status stopping", but somehow the strigideamon is not responding and does not stop.12:01
LordCrchi12:09
LordCrcseems my kubuntu just wont work with wpa-aes12:10
LordCrconly wpa-tkip :/12:10
LordCrcalso "auto" mode fails each time, i have to manually select tkip each time i connect12:11
LordCrchow can i fix this?12:13
hagabakawhat font packaged in ubuntu is suitable for general use but more interesting than bitstream?12:18
Thoris there any command that allow to rename a batch of files ?12:18
hagabakathere is a renameutils package containing a few commands for that12:20
hagabakaactually not that, but there's a rename and a rename.ul command, not sure from which packages12:22
sudhangi think it comes with perl?12:23
g-hennuxhi!12:24
g-hennuxi'm on kubuntu gutsy and am trying to get my multimedia keys on the keyboard to work. most already do, like "next track", "new email" and such. where can i configure the rest of the keys?12:25
g-hennuxor, for example, pressing "mute" mutes the wrong channel12:25
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dustmanhow to set different Konsole size for new shell windows?12:37
dustmanoh, found it12:39
dustmangoogling didn't give real answer on analog of NoScript for Konqueror, beside whitelisting13:04
dustmanis there easy tool like this for Konqueror?13:04
ubuntu_i have a big problem: i had to reinstall windows last weekend and so i can't access my linux. i tried a lot to restore grub but it all failed result is now that even the install cd as well as qparted only see /dev/sda which is my whole hard drive. In windows i can see my partitions and using the live cd i can also see and access them. How can i fix this?13:08
LordCrcyou'll need to reinstall grub as the boot manager afaik13:09
LordCrchow though :)13:09
LordCrcubuntu_: perhaps http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html ?13:10
RenzoreKWhy is it sometimes when logging in the icons in the K dock (next to the date/time) don't minimize and appear as tiny windows in the upper left (re-logging in most of the time fixes this problem). Anyone seen what Im talking about before??13:10
ubuntu_i tried thatm problem is i can't mount the partitions...the thing doesn't see them13:11
LordCrcbut you can?13:11
dustmanubuntu_: I heard editing grub config might help13:12
ubuntu_in windows i see my windows partition, my data partition, and 3 unknown, which are /boot, swap and /13:13
ubuntu_with the live cd under storage media i see them as well13:13
dustmanif you managed to install grub, just edit it and say what it must load13:14
ubuntu_but the installerm alternate installer as well s qparted don't see them13:14
dustmanubuntu_: or you can simply mount your / under livecd and copy what you need to a new partition13:16
alarmhello, i got a question about fsck, as i do not know if that is normal or not. when i boot on kubuntu sometimes , on the boot screen i get the common message "sdaX hasnt been mounted for 30 times" (for example) and starts a root fsck . the problem is:13:16
alarmthat although the OS is fresh installed, the fsck may take even 1 hour to finish13:17
dustmanubuntu_: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Configuration.html13:19
ubuntu_if i take a look at my menu.lst it looks like it should with all suff in it, but last time i tried to reinstall grub i had some error about stage1 not being read correctly or something13:24
Zopieuxhi13:25
dustmanso just move your data using livecd13:25
dustmanubuntu_: since livecd sees your 'missing' partitions, check their info with 'mount' command and edit grub menu accordingly13:27
Zopieuxguys, i'm having trouble installing kubuntu on my laptop13:28
Zopieuxinstallation is blocked at 87%, it trys to retrieve date&time from a time server13:29
Zopieuxbut my laptop isn't connected to internet13:29
Zopieuxwhat can I do?13:29
freaky_tcan k3b burn audio CDs by default (from mp3 files)?13:30
freaky_tor do i have to install any special package before i can do that?13:30
ubuntu_if i type 'mount' it gives me /dev/sda6 on /media/disk (and if i take a look with dolphin, that's my old /boot)13:31
tuxwulf!dolphin13:33
ubottuDolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.13:33
freaky_twhat is a good ftp client for kubuntu?13:33
dustmanubuntu_: I'm sure you'd like your old / , not /boot13:35
ubuntu_well at this point i don't even mind if i have to reinstall kubuntu from scratch, as long as i don't loose my windows in the process13:36
ubuntu_problem is i can't just reinstall, because the installer only sees /dev/sda as my whole hdd instead of all the partitions13:37
Zopieuxthanks for your usefull help.13:37
LordCrci want to start vncserver during startup (ie before i log on), and make it run "as me" (ie so when i connect to it, i get my). Any tips?13:37
krawiecjoin #ubuntu13:37
dustmanubuntu_: dunno if it relates to your problem: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/partition-types.html#primary13:40
ubuntu_i don't think so (it worked before and i didn't make new partitions or something)13:42
dustmanwhen you run 'mount' while booted from livecd, can you see your old / ?13:44
dustmanif 'yes', edit grub menu accordingly with correct disk/slices numbers/letters and boot it13:45
dustmanif you can't see it, I can't recommend anything13:46
dustmansince you could navigate to it via file browser, you *must* see it13:46
ubuntu_well i only see it if i open it first with going to storage media and then open the partition (so it auto mounts then i guess)13:47
dustmanand if grub menu editing doesn't work, simple coping of important info to win filesystem will work13:47
dustman'mount' with no argument shows quite a bit of info13:48
ubuntu_if i check the menu.lst and check fstab, it seems to be correct (as in fstab tells me that /dev/sda7 (my old / ) is UUID=*something* , that *something* is the same as in menu.lst under root=UUID=*something*13:50
ubuntu_i think it should be enough to be able to reinstall grub, that way it hsould be fine. i tried to do it like:13:53
ubuntu_ 1. Pop in the Live CD, boot from it until you reach the desktop.13:53
ubuntu_ 2. Open a terminal window or switch to a tty.13:53
ubuntu_ 3. Type "grub"13:53
ubuntu_ 4. Type "root (hd0,6)", or whatever your harddisk + boot partition numbers are (my /boot is at /dev/sda7, which translates to hd0,6 for grub).13:53
ubuntu_ 5. Type "setup (hd0)", ot whatever your harddisk nr is.13:53
ubuntu_ 6. Quit grub by typing "quit".13:53
ubuntu_ 7. Reboot.13:53
dustmanubuntu_: I'm not really familiar with grub and you might get better answer in #ubuntu13:54
DaSkreech!grub13:55
ubottugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto13:55
ubuntu_only thing: if i type the 'root(hd0,6)' thing i get 'selected disk does not exist' (however my menu.lst tells me that "root" is (hd0,6)  )13:55
dustmanDaSkreech: heh13:55
DaSkreechubuntu_: use the first one it will walk you through the steps13:56
ubuntu_how wait, now it give me something, all other times the find /boot gave me file not found..now it gives me something13:57
ubuntu_now i get to "setup (hd0)" it tells me "/boot/grub/stage1", stage2 and e2fs_stage1.5 exists14:00
ubuntu_grub> setup (hd0)14:02
ubuntu_ Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... yes14:02
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ubuntu_ Checking if "/boot/grub/stage2" exists... yes14:02
ubuntu_ Checking if "/boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5" exists... yes14:02
ubuntu_ Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0)"...  16 sectors are embedded.14:02
ubuntu_succeeded14:02
ubuntu_ Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+16 p (hd0,7)/boot/grub/stage214:02
ubuntu_/boot/grub/menu.lst"... failed14:02
ubuntu_Error 22: No such partition14:02
ubuntu_or should i not type "root (hd0,7)" (which i get from find /boot/grub/stage1) but "root (hd0,6)"14:03
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ubuntu_ah if i do "root (hd0,6)" i get a succeeded, let's try the rest...14:06
ubuntu_trying to reboot14:07
piopeo?14:07
dustmananyone know how to get non-latin mp3 metadata to show correctely in amarok?14:09
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ubuntu_ok i've a grub now, but only with something like bash edidting is possible, i don't get a list with the kbuntu's and win XP in it14:17
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ubuntu_actually after doing the setup (hd0) thing and i quit en reboot (as told) i get the same text as i open a konsole and type sudo grub14:25
azuredragon:D14:28
ubuntu_sh*t maybe i had to type "root (hd0,1)"...14:28
White_Pelicanwhen I insert a CD into the drive, how do I configure Konqueror to include flac?14:29
White_Pelicanlet me rephrase that. When I insert a CD into the drive, flac is not one of the options when I open in a new window. How do I fix that?14:34
White_Pelicanis anyone here to answer my question?14:37
m__hello everyone!!!14:39
wishiei have an issue with KDE3.5.9 .. recently (starting today) knetworkmanager doesnt seem to start properly when i log into KDE14:43
wishieps shows it running as 'knetworkmanager [kdeinit]' but it doesnt seem to load at all.14:44
yakuzithanks guys i managed to get my system back14:52
yakuzithing was, after the grub reinstall from within the live cd, i got the same when rebooting from hdd, so i did the install again, but this time while just booting, result: it works :)  )14:53
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aanishnhi all, my monitor flickers constantly in kubuntu 8.10 beta, I googled up and found some posts pointing at a possible xorg-intel driver issue15:21
dresnuhello, does anyone know how to add a directory to the KDE enviroment variables PATH?15:22
aanishnIn Xorg.0.log 6 lines constantly shows up I have pasted it here http://paste.ubuntu.com/56307/15:22
aanishnis any one else familiar with this issue, I was not able to find a fix any where though...15:22
elisa:)15:24
elisa!15:24
elisa:)15:24
elisaelisuntu15:24
elisahello15:25
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giuseppe_Hi, I have a question. When I update the kernel, is it better to re-install, re-compile video drivers?15:42
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Copertoneboh15:42
Copertonenever compiled a kernel15:43
jussi01giuseppe_: Id suggest recompiling, as things may have changed in the new kernel15:43
Copertonebut of couse video drivers are loaded on kernel so i "think" yu should reinstall every module you have15:43
Copertoneadd15:43
x_linkHi there my dear Kubuntu-users =)15:48
x_linkAnybody here?15:48
x_linkNeedto ask a question.15:48
dustman_nobody's here15:49
geek!ask15:49
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)15:49
x_linkOkey =)15:49
x_linkI'm trying to fix my fingerprint read.15:49
x_linkreader15:49
x_linkDone as wiki told me, but I get an error15:49
x_linkhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/56315/15:49
x_linkThought if somebody might be able to help me?15:50
BluesKajhowdy15:54
gekkookdelibs5-doc does not contain any documentation at all. which package do i need to install to get kde4 api docs?15:55
mixed1234anyone knows of an app that can let you play wma files from the internet??15:58
WTFWTHWhoKnowshow can i get the latest vlc on ubuntu (the one in the repo is reallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllly outdated....)16:05
WTFWTHWhoKnowsi opened the konsole and added there debian (unstable) sources but its not working :/16:05
Level15hi all. a little bit offtopic here, maybe, but does anyone know how can i check which channels are being used byt wireless networks on my area? I think there's intereference between many wifi networks over here, and want to select my APs channel accordingly16:06
geekLevel15: just hover your arrow over the network names in knetwork manager16:07
Level15hm, cool :D16:07
geekWTFWTHWhoKnows: compile it yourself?16:07
WTFWTHWhoKnowsgeek i tried but my live media lib is outdated and i cant get it to install there is no live directory when i try to run the cp command16:08
pumpkin__i have something eating up my physical memory and I can't figure out what it is. Any ideas?16:11
pumpkin__is anybody out there today?!16:13
geekpumpkin__: top16:14
pumpkin__hello, geek are you still there?16:19
geekpumpkin__: yes16:20
pumpkin__something is eating up my physical memory16:21
pumpkin__i can't figure it out16:21
geekpumpkin__: open up a console, use the command 'top'16:21
pumpkin__did it16:22
pumpkin__what do you i look for on the konsole16:22
geekpumpkin__: see what has the highest amount in the mem column?16:22
pumpkin__yes16:23
pumpkin__strigi deamon16:23
pumpkin__also the ksysguard16:24
geekpumpkin__: how much?16:24
pumpkin__strigi 7.9 ksysguard 3.216:25
ronyciao16:27
pumpkin__I have go to, please send a private message16:28
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AnthonyT1220I need some help.16:34
AnthonyT1220I have firefox on my Ubuntu system (I am new with this)16:34
AnthonyT1220and when I go to watch flash anything it does not load straight out, it has to be loaded by clicking on a gray play button16:34
AnthonyT1220how do i get rid of this?16:35
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yuruichihola16:39
yuruichicomo estan?16:39
jussi01!es16:40
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.16:40
yuruichi¿?16:44
SupavisahHello, if I get the Kubuntu 8.1 Beta Live CD and install it on my second hard drive intending to dual disk dual boot will I need to toss around like I did with Fedora?16:46
unitypunkhmm16:56
unitypunkmann16:59
unitypunkwhats with this wifi..16:59
ray__HI17:03
ray__Hi17:04
ray__bye17:05
max_hello17:06
Supavisahanyone?17:13
aditya_how to install wireless network driver in ubuntu in compaq presario v6425tu?17:30
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scarletheya17:39
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jmodOK i need some help I have a Geforce go 7600 but how do I get it to work with kubuntu17:56
SupavisahHello, if I get the Kubuntu 8.1 Beta Live CD and install it on my second hard drive intending to dual disk dual boot will I need to mess around like I did with Fedora?17:57
jmodI have EnvyNG but if I install the driver I get a scrambeld up screen can anyone help?17:59
jmodI running it on a laptop HP Pavilion dv9230us18:00
Supavisahjmod, channels been dead fo ages :P18:00
jmodwhat do you mean? this channel?18:01
SupavisahYeah, well like I've been in here for a few hours :P not much action going on - but stick around see a reply.18:01
jmodso why are there so many people on here18:02
SupavisahDon't look at me.18:06
jussi01!weekend18:09
ubottuIt's a weekend.  Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question.  Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week.18:09
pulaskiHi all, I havie two machines, a desktop running kubuntu hardy heron 8.04 and an older machine I've set up to use as a file server that runs kubuntu server 8.04.  I can move between them ok using ssh but I would like to install NFS to easier and faster access.  Looking at my Adept Manager it appears I need the nfs-common package (which includes libnfsismap2) on both.  On the server I may also need nfs-kernel-server and nfsboot.18:09
pulaskiCan anyone suggest any other packages or offer any helpful comments?18:09
Supavisahjussi01, never knew that :P18:09
jussi01!nfs | pulaski18:10
ubottupulaski: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.18:10
jussi01Supavisah: you would be suprised on how many people forget that ;)18:10
SupavisahOh, well that's good I'm not crusified then - I might add paid developers? I thought Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Linux's are meant to be open source, and free?18:11
pulaskiubottu: Thanks I will18:11
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about thanks i will18:11
jussi01ubottu: is a bot18:11
ubottuYes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.18:11
jussi01!canonical18:11
ubottuCanonical Ltd. is committed to the development, distribution and promotion of open source software products, and to providing tools and support to the open source community. It is the driving force behind the Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu Operating Systems. Canonical's website is at http://www.canonical.com/18:11
pulaskiubottu: you read my mind18:12
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:12
jussi01Supavisah: ^^18:12
Supavisahsomeone slap ubottu xD18:12
glade88hi.. I recently had multiple X crashes with Kubuntu Intrepid, X kept restarting until I did a hard reboot18:13
jussi01glade88: intrepid support is in #ubuntu+1 thanks :)18:13
glade88ok :)18:13
stefanf!ldap18:15
ubottuLDAP is the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol. For more information and installation instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer18:15
lanoxxhi, in the kubuntu start menu i only see system settings, how do i get to the real controll center?18:23
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MrKennielanoxx: K-> Run Command and type kcontrol18:26
lanoxxMrKennie, ah thx18:27
lanoxxwhy is there no short cut to this in the menu?18:27
ldpI'm Back18:27
jussi01lanoxx: because kubuntu uses system settings, not kcontrol..18:28
MrKennieI guess system settings is meant to be a replacement18:28
lanoxxand having two controll centers, one called system settings is really confusing18:28
lanoxxjussio1, system settings has only about halve of the settings of kcontrol18:28
jussi01lanoxx: in intrepid, there is no kcontrol - its an interim thing18:28
lanoxxhmm, bad18:29
lanoxxfor example in system settings there is no way to controll power save settings18:29
lanoxxbut in kcontrol there is18:29
lanoxxjussi01, are you a developer18:35
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jussi01lanoxx: no, I help out where I can, but I am not a coder.18:35
lanoxxhmm, any suggestion where i should post issues like this? like that there is no real power saving settings in system settings? or is it going to be betting in ibex18:36
jussi01lanoxx: I thought there were, but anyway (I assume youve looked under advanced) but you are welcome to file a bug.18:38
jussi01!bug | lanoxx18:38
ubottulanoxx: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots18:38
lanoxxjussio1, ok thx18:39
lanoxx:)18:39
lerneaen_hydraI just got an error when applying updates via apt, now dpkg -l reports; "dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 1933 package `libgcrypt11': `Depends' field, invalid package name `" is this something anyone else is experiencing? or does anyone have any idea?18:49
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tntatHi all, how do i unzip a tar.gz file?18:52
LjLtntat: tar xf filename18:52
LjLor use ark18:52
LjL!ark18:52
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ark18:52
LjLyou should18:52
tntatok thanks18:52
LjL!zip18:52
ubottuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression18:52
LjL!-file-roller18:52
ubottufile-roller is <alias> zip - added by LjL on 2008-02-04 22:19:41 - last edited by LjL on 2008-02-04 22:20:2718:52
LjL!ark is <alias> zip18:52
ubottuI'll remember that, LjL18:52
sorush20!xps19:10
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about xps19:10
sorush20I can't print .xps in oKular19:16
sorush20any help?19:16
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gkffjcsis there a way to touch ever file in a directory tree, with one command, and is there also an rsync like command that will copy one tree based onto another based on time stamp?19:39
Walzmynwhat's the keyboard command to switch desktops?19:45
Walzmynnevermind, just found it19:45
moppedAm I able to scale down the bottom bar? :)19:49
deanhello all19:56
TheNamelessOnehello19:56
deanyou ok ?19:57
TheNamelessOneof course19:58
aanishnhi, I recently installed kubuntu 8.10 beta, my screen flickers every 10 sec or so and I get some lines on Xorg.0.log saying "EDID quirk: Detailed timings give sizes in cm."20:06
aanishnhow do I go about to get this stuff fixed ?20:07
sorush20!mount20:11
ubottuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter20:11
mopped!synergy20:11
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about synergy20:11
mopped!icecast20:12
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about icecast20:12
frlojasome body here20:12
TheNamelessOneyes20:12
unitypunk__bah20:12
jmodmeh20:12
frlojahi20:12
frlojasome body20:12
jmodhi20:13
unitypunk__sup20:13
frlojawhat's your name?20:13
jmodyo20:13
jmodMy name is public info20:14
jmodlol20:14
jmod!xorg20:15
ubottuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto20:15
jhutchinsWhat's the usenet newserader in kde?20:18
hswalesgood afternoon yall just intalled kubuntu today and im having an issue with flash cant seem to find a fix on the forums but i cant get flash to work in firefox20:18
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jussi01sikki: install kubuntu-restricted-extras - you can then play most formats of music and video, java and flash.20:25
sikkii did install those already and its still not working20:25
jussi01sikki: have you restarted firefox since?20:26
sikkiHello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player.  < thats what youtube says when i try to view a video20:26
jussi01sikki: so have you?20:27
jussi01sikki: also ensure you have: edit -> preferences -> content -> enable javascript selected20:28
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sikkiI downloaded it but when i try to run the installer it tells me to give the path to firefox i use locate and all i can find is the addons path20:28
sikkiit seems to be asking for the program path20:29
sikkijava is enabled20:29
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jussi01sikki: there should be no need to do that - the flashplugin-nonfree package does all that for you20:30
sikkihmmm something didnt work right then and ive installed both the kubuntu and ubuntu restricted packages20:31
jussi01sikki: you are certain you installed kubuntu-restricted-extras correctly?20:31
jussi01no, you should only install one.20:31
sikkii used adept20:31
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sikkii just uninstalled ubuntu restricted and kubuntu restricted and reinstlaled kubuntu20:33
sikkiand still no work20:34
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jussi01sikki: try manually installing flashplugin-nonfree20:34
sikkithats where it asks for the path to firefox20:36
sikkiand when i locate i cant get the path20:36
vittujooI have wlassistant to connect20:37
jussi01sikki: no, I mean sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree20:37
shakysHello20:37
jugunaswas up20:37
vittujooevery time it asks for my password20:37
shakysHello?20:37
shakysHey!!20:37
jugunasi need kubuntus20:37
shakysHello!??????20:37
shakysgay20:38
sikkiflashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version.20:38
sikki0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.20:38
vittujoois that required by linux or only a software specific issue20:38
jussi01shakys: this channel is for kubuntu support, how can we help you?20:38
jussi01vittujoo: please change your nick to something more family friendly :)20:39
vittujooas soon as i get my answer20:40
jussi01vittujoo: no, change it now please.20:40
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jussi01thanks :)20:40
jussi01Reptile: what password is it asking for?20:40
Reptilemy root password20:40
sikkiim gonna try something silly here juss but im gonna try a reboot maybe it will help doubtful but im willing to try anything atm20:40
jussi01sikki: good luck20:41
jussi01Reptile: your root password or your wallet password?20:41
Reptilei dont know, both are the same20:42
Reptilei think its the root20:42
jussi01Im not sure on that. :(20:42
Reptilewell, not a big problem just a nuisance20:43
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sikkiknew that was pointless juss but i had to try20:44
sikkilol20:44
ArlianinHello20:44
Arlianincan anyone please help me?20:45
SupavisahArlianin, state your problem and wait.20:46
Reptilejussi01, it seems to require for kdesudo in the beginning to work proṕerly20:46
ArlianinI placed the music from the CD I had to Kaffeine but I can't hear it.20:47
jussi01ahh, curious20:47
Reptilewhat software do u use20:47
jussi01Reptile: this is something that you start every boot, right?20:47
Reptileyep20:47
jussi01Reptile: I use knetwork manager20:47
jussi01!bum20:47
ubottuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto20:47
Reptilei tried that first but it did not support all encryption possibilities20:50
jussi01Reptile: like which ones? it certainly supports wpa2...20:50
jussi01!wpa20:50
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs20:50
ArlianinReptile: What can I do if my menu bar (the one ont he bottom) disappears?20:50
Reptilei am still a noob but what do u mean20:51
jussi01Arlianin: try doing alt+f2 and type kicker20:52
Reptilejussi01: i have to try ur software again20:52
jussi01!noob20:52
ubottuAcronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu, or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.20:52
Arlianin Jussi01: doesn't work :S20:52
sikkigot flash working with seamonkey juss20:52
Reptilehow come20:52
jussi01sikki: great :)20:53
jussi01!tab | sikki20:53
ubottusikki: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.20:53
sikkiyes i know about tab lol20:53
jussi01Reptile: they dont promote helpfulness, for one reason...20:53
jussi01sikki: you keep calling me juss...20:53
Arlianin Jussi01: doesn't work :S20:53
sikkiyeah i know im too lazy to hit tab sometimes lol20:54
Reptilethat's true when refer to somebody else than ur self20:54
sikkijussi01: there you go :P thanks for the help today20:54
jussi01Arlianin: can you please do ctrl+esc and see if kicker is running ?20:54
jussi01sikki: no probs20:54
Arlianinjussi01: It's running :) though the menu bar (the one of the bottom) still doesn't appear :/20:55
jussi01Arlianin: sounds like you have accidentally removed it, or its hidden. to be honest, I cant quite remember how to add it again, but I think when you right click on the desktop or another panel there was an option?20:56
Arlianinjussi01: There's no option :/20:57
jussi01Arlianin: Im sorry, I dont have a kde3 box here atm, so cant really help. but hopefully someone wanders in that can help.20:58
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SupavisahDoes Kubuntu Live CD media support dual disk dual boot?21:06
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starenkalive cd is for booting & installing OS21:09
Supavisahstarenka, I know but I recently TRIED to install Fedora on a second hard drive (secondary slave) and I needed to use this rescue CD and it just UGH caused so much problems and I never got to get it.21:11
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FFForeveris there a repo with latest kde4?21:13
FFForever(and is normally upgraded)21:13
MrKennieFFForever: check new on kubuntu.org, it is updated as and when there are new releases21:14
MrKennienews*21:14
FFForeverthere is no repo though that has it always updated so apt picks it up?21:15
MrKennieFFForever: the news article for 4.1.2 has instructions21:15
FFForeverkool, also is there a ppa that has mostly updated packages i find it sad that vlc is only 0.8.3....21:17
MrKennieFFForever: there are several PPA repos. I do not know if one exists for vlc.21:20
famillecomment installer google earth dans kubuntu ?21:22
starenka!fr | famille21:25
ubottufamille: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr21:25
starenkafamille: http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html21:25
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romeoSALUT21:32
romeoHELLO21:32
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pacman__hello21:34
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* Danu is back.21:38
lamoureuxsalut21:44
sarirjokey-kde closed unexpectedly21:45
sarir-.-21:45
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deborahallo21:56
deborahello21:59
manishjust checking if i am online22:06
manishplease some body reply if they see me online22:06
Nyadhello. I removed the thingy on my taskbar which shows my multiple desktops, how do I get that back?22:06
Nyadmanish: I see you22:06
manishthnaks22:07
Peter_Lawlietmanish: i see you!22:07
manishit seems this is the only thing that is working online22:07
manishmy browser mailing client and everything else thinks that i am off line22:07
ArlianinReload this PageReload this PageReload this PageReload this Page22:07
ArlianinHello!22:08
manishcan you suggest what has gone wrong22:08
manish:)22:08
manishthats nice22:08
manishi have already tried that22:08
W8TAHwhere can i file bugs on intrepid beta ?22:08
ArlianinHow can I make my menubar (on the bottom) viewable again? I think I accidentally erased it or made it invisible. :S22:08
sariri want my plasmoid or how is it called back22:09
saririt disappeared22:09
sarirand cant find it!!22:09
W8TAHsarir should be able to right click on teh plasma icon in the tray and re-activate it22:09
ArlianinHow can I make my menubar (on the bottom) viewable again? I think I accidentally erased it or made it invisible. :S22:09
sarirW8TAH, where is the plasma icon? pls22:10
manisharlianin22:10
manishdo you have menu bar at anyother place like at the top or something22:10
Arlianinnop22:10
sarirW8TAH, it already disappeared yesterday.. sorry22:10
Arlianin:/22:10
manishok22:10
manishthen i dont know sorry22:11
W8TAHsarir -- in the system tray lower right of your screen -- on mine its the first icon on the left - -looks like a couple windows - and you need to left click on it to get the plasma dashboard - -22:11
manishcan some body tell me why every thing except IRC is not working online on my computer22:11
sarirW8TAH, :-)22:11
manishi have reliance data card and have connected then through it22:11
W8TAHsarir you can also click on the almond lookin thing in the upper right corner22:11
W8TAHsarir: choose add widgets22:12
manishonly IRC is workin and nothing elase22:12
manishelse*22:12
sarirW8TAH, with that i'm ok22:12
W8TAHcool22:12
W8TAHhave fun22:12
manishW8TAH can u help me too please22:12
sarirW8TAH, hm then i dont remember the name of the widget.... that transparent one showing the files etc22:14
sarir-.-22:14
sarirhow is it called??22:14
manishsomebody please tell me why anythin except IRC and KOPETE is not showing online22:14
sarirmanish, beta?22:15
manishsorry??22:15
manishsarir22:15
manishwhat do u mean22:15
sarirkidding nothing22:15
manishu an indian??22:15
manishright??22:15
sarirnope finnish22:15
sarirlol22:15
manishok because beta is also a word in indian (hindi) that s y i thought22:16
ArlianinHow can I make my menubar (on the bottom) viewable again? I think I accidentally erased it or made it invisible. :S22:16
manishany ways can you help me with this stuff22:16
sarirdont have a clue ..22:16
manishi mean nothing except IRC and KOPETE is working online22:17
sarirmanish, me??? i am just a new user of linux ubuntu :-/22:17
sarirtrying now kubuntu22:17
manishnot my browser ok22:17
manishme too22:17
sarirwhich brower you are looking at manish ?22:17
sarirbrowser*22:17
ArlianinHow can I make my menubar (on the bottom) viewable again? I think I accidentally erased it or made it invisible. :S22:18
manish i22:20
manishkonqueror22:20
manishy does that matter22:21
W8TAHwhere can i file bugs on intrepid beta ?22:21
manishSOS Please help22:24
manishcan not access net on anything except IRC and Kopete22:24
W8TAHmanish --22:24
manishno browser no mailing clien22:24
W8TAHopen a terminal window22:25
manishyes W8TAH22:25
W8TAHtype ping www.google.com22:25
manishya22:25
W8TAHare you getting responses22:25
manishwhere22:25
manishin terminal??22:25
W8TAHyes22:25
Arlianinhey22:26
manishys there is something coming up22:26
ArlianinW8TAH: Can you please help me?22:26
Arlianin!help22:26
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots22:26
W8TAHhit ctrl-c22:26
paolohi. how can i remove the bell sounds from konsole, from now to the eternity ?22:26
W8TAHarlianin -- i can try -- whats up?22:26
manishdoen22:26
manishdone22:26
W8TAHcopy one of the response lines here22:26
ArlianinW8TAH: My meny bar on the bottom disappeared.22:26
manishnow what do i do22:26
ArlianinW8TAH: How can I make it appear again?22:27
W8TAHArlianin: i dont know how to solve that one22:27
W8TAHmanish -- copy one of the response lines here so i can see it22:27
bloodwinghow do i get my sound to work?22:27
manish64 bytes from tc-in-f104.google.com (209.85.175.104): icmp_seq=43 ttl=237 time=638 ms22:27
W8TAHmanish: ok - good -- you have a valid network connection22:27
W8TAHnow22:27
manishevery line is the same22:27
W8TAHwhich browser are you using?22:27
bloodwinghow do i get my sound to work?22:27
manishkonqueror22:27
W8TAHbloodwing: start off by asking once and waiting patiently22:27
manishand kmail as mailing client22:28
bloodwingim sorry.22:28
W8TAHmanish: ok - -first things first - -hold off on kmail for now22:28
W8TAHlets get browsing working22:28
manishya22:28
manishok22:28
W8TAHmanish - do you have firefox installed?22:28
JamesArthuris there a NOT BUGGY 64bit version of Stallman Linux around? i'm tired of things like making its' /tmp read only and crashing its' own Xserver22:28
manishno22:28
manishi would like to tell you something22:28
W8TAHok22:28
JamesArthurSysinfo for 'ubuntu': Linux 2.6.24-19-generic running KDE 3.5.9, CPU: AMDAthlon64X2DualCore5400+ at 3013 MHz (6027 bogomips), , RAM: 1064/7995MB, 132 proc's, 23.12min up22:29
manishmy konqueror works when i access my net on wifi or lan in the college22:29
W8TAHgood22:29
W8TAHthen what is the problem?22:29
manishbut when i am using my reliance data card (usb modem) i am facing this problem22:29
W8TAHmanish - i have no clue at all22:30
W8TAHive never heard of or seen one of those22:30
manishok for mailing client22:30
manish??22:30
manishany suggestions22:30
W8TAHits probably a related problem - -and no, no idea at all22:30
sarirjockey closes as well W8TAH22:30
manishok how do i install firefox from the terminal22:30
manishwhat is the command22:30
W8TAHsudo apt-get install firefox22:30
sarirbecause of nvidia -.-22:30
manishno that does not work22:30
W8TAHit almost sounds like your system is firewalled some how22:31
manishjust for this type of connection??22:31
W8TAHsaarir ????22:31
manishis it possible22:31
W8TAHyes - its def possible - it might not be on your end22:31
manishand when i typed sudo apt-get install firefox22:31
W8TAHwhat did you get?22:32
manishthe result was "Couldn't find package firefox22:32
W8TAHohh22:32
W8TAHhold on22:32
manishk22:32
sarirW8TAH, yes jockey-kde has closed when i was trying to enable nvidia22:32
W8TAHno clue22:32
sarirmanish, bad bad22:32
W8TAHi dont use nvidia22:32
sarirW8TAH, -.-22:32
sarirarg22:32
manishwhat happened sarir22:32
sarirmanish, nothing serious yet22:33
sariri will just wait22:33
manishk22:33
manishthanks22:33
W8TAHmanish try sudo apt-get install firefox-3.022:33
mixed1234wireless--anyone knows if i should configure eth1 or wi-fi on "network settings"???22:33
glade88which binary package should be dolphin related to? dolphin itself or kdebase ?22:33
W8TAHsarir: im sorry -- i dont know how to help you on that problem22:33
manishmixed22:33
sarirW8TAH, jep i already reported the bug22:34
sarirbut i was just hoping ... W8TAH22:34
manishsame reply22:34
W8TAHmixed1234: wireless is usually wl0 or something similar i think22:34
bloodwingjust asking again... my sound is not working, how do i fix, if your not busy..22:35
W8TAHbloodwing: im sorry -- i really dont know -- i just installed 8.10beta yesterday myself22:35
mixed1234W8TAH in "nework settings" I have 2 adapters, "eth1" and "wi-fi"22:35
W8TAHbloodwing: general things to check would be open kmix and make sure things are unmuted and volumed up22:36
W8TAHmixed1234: wifi22:36
bloodwingi have22:36
W8TAH!sound22:36
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP322:36
manishdo a right click on your network manager and click on the wireless network that you see22:36
manishenter thekey and you are through22:36
manishthat s no problem W8TAH22:36
manishthanks for your help22:36
W8TAHtry that bloodwing22:36
W8TAHmanish: np22:36
bloodwingwhat?22:36
bloodwingthat link?22:36
W8TAHdid you see ubottu mesage above22:36
manishmixed: do you see any woreless network in your network manager22:36
mixed1234ok i enabled "wifi0" and unpicked "eth1", looks like I am at least seeing my network and eth1 was enabled, dont have an IP though22:38
manishcan some body tell me how do i install firefox from terminal22:38
glade88sudo apt-get install firefox-3.022:38
manishno it does not work22:38
glade88o.O22:38
W8TAHmanish: what response do you get?22:39
glade88you have repos enabled?22:39
manishCould't find firefox-0.022:39
manishCould't find firefox-3.022:39
glade88goto adept manager->software sources22:39
glade88make sure you have all repos ticked, all third party sources ticked22:39
manishya will check that if that is working22:39
manishthat all is ok22:39
glade88do sudo apt-get update22:40
glade88and try again22:40
manishsome of my apps are working online others are not22:40
manishlike my browser and mailing client ar enot worling22:40
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manishwhen i connect neyt usin reliance net connect22:40
glade88what browser? konqueror? what problem do you face?22:40
manishsudo apt-get update is working22:40
manishya konqueror22:41
glade88manish: have you set up any network proxy?22:41
manishand kmail22:41
manishno22:41
manishnot intentionally22:41
glade88hm. strange. what did sudo apt-get update reply?22:41
manishya i would like to tell u that every thing works fine when i connect through lan or wifi22:42
sarirW8TAH, it was the folder viewer! i finally found it among the widgets :-/22:42
manishya its updating22:42
manishsudo apt-get update22:42
glade88manish.. when its done, try installing firefox again.. though I still think that your repos aren't ticked22:42
glade88can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file ?22:42
glade88!pastebin22:42
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)22:42
manishand if that is so why is my browser and mailin client not working22:44
manishya just a moment22:44
administrator_hello everyone im having a problem with kb3 copy software, i need to copy audio mp3s and it wont let me what is hte best way to resolve this???22:45
sariri made also some mistakes with adept.... regarding software sources ...22:45
glade88mistakes?22:45
sariris there any command to see if everything is ok?22:45
manishbut i can not open paste cin22:45
manishbin22:45
manishmy browser is not working22:45
glade88manish: ?22:45
sariryes now i cannot install anything22:45
sarirbah22:45
glade88sarir: what error do you get?22:45
manishya22:45
manishi can not open paste bin22:46
manishmy browser is not working22:46
sarirlet me see again22:46
manishshould i paste the 6 lines here22:46
glade88at the main channel, no22:46
glade88 /msg it to me22:46
dustman_manish: man apt-get22:46
manishhow??22:46
sariroh now it seems to work ..... it is downloading packages22:47
glade88double click on my name and paste into the PM window22:47
manishsorry this i should write in the terminal"man pat-get22:47
glade88sarir: cool22:47
manishman pat-get22:47
sarirglade88, but i am not sure yet22:47
administrator_hi having problems with copying mp3s on kb3 what is the best way around this as i need to get mp3s copied asap22:48
mixed1234anybody knows if "network manager" supports 64 bit 10 hex digits WEP Level???22:49
mixed1234anybody knows if "network manager" supports 64 bit 10 hex digits Wireless Encryption Level?22:49
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sarirbut in adept what should i do to add or remove something in adept?22:51
sarirhm22:51
sariri'm upgrading again22:51
bloodwingsorry about this but, i still can not get my sound to work..22:52
bloodwingcan someone plz help me with this?22:52
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administrator_does nay1 no any software which will let me convert from mp3 to wave format22:53
bloodwingsorry about this but, i still can not get my sound to work..22:53
bloodwingidk any22:54
sarirYou may now exit the program or go back to installing and removing packages. say adept .. why?22:55
sarirsays*22:55
bloodwingso... can no one help me with my sound m22:57
bloodwing*problem22:57
bloodwing"leaving"22:58
sarirbloodwing, kmix?22:58
bloodwingyes i use22:58
bloodwingand no it is not mute22:58
sarirand what happened... ( i am just a new user)22:58
bloodwingwell, atleast i think i use kmix, i don't have anything else...22:58
bloodwingwell22:58
bloodwingmy sound does not work22:58
sariryes you must add something..22:59
bloodwingok..22:59
bloodwingsudo apt-get install  ...22:59
bloodwingsudo apt-get install  ...?22:59
sarirbloodwing, dont you already have the icon of sounds?22:59
bloodwingno... should i...23:00
sarirbloodboy, yes23:00
sarirO_O23:00
saririn the lower panel23:00
W8TAHbloodwing: in teh system tray on teh lower right - - there is no speaker icon?23:00
bloodwingoh,23:00
bloodwingyes23:00
bloodwingi thught you meant desktop.. mybad23:00
sarirso click there23:00
sarirshow mixer23:00
W8TAHbloodwing: have you seen the entire mixer app or just the volume control23:00
bloodwingok23:00
sarirand add whatever you need23:00
bloodwingentire thing23:00
bloodwingbut,23:00
sarirjep betted23:00
W8TAHall sliders all the way up?23:00
bloodwingi dont know what the heck its saying23:01
W8TAHand all unmuted?23:01
bloodwingwhat do i do from here?23:01
bloodwingyeah23:01
bloodwingatleast.23:01
chairmanhow do you make the bottom tray black on KDE4?23:01
W8TAHok one sec23:01
bloodwingif 100 is unmuted23:01
W8TAHno23:01
sarirbloodwing, click show the window of mixer23:01
sariror what is it in your language23:01
bloodwingoutput?23:02
bloodwingthe first tab?23:02
sarirbloodwing, the third23:02
sariri have it in italian23:02
sarir:-/23:02
bloodwingok, thats "switches"23:02
bloodwingim there...23:02
sarirthen click mixer23:02
bloodwing...?23:03
W8TAHbloodwing - what are the tabs lables?23:03
sarirwhere are you now23:03
bloodwing1st, output, 2nd input, 3rd switches23:03
bloodwingim in switches23:03
W8TAHclick on output23:03
bloodwingok23:04
W8TAHyou should see a mixer layout23:04
W8TAHwith a number of channels23:04
bloodwingof a bunch of vertical sections.. yeah23:04
W8TAHeach mixer channel will be composed of an icon a checkbox and a slider, right?23:04
sarirjep add all of them the you can do it better bloodwing23:04
W8TAHwith text lables near the bottom23:04
bloodwingyeah23:04
W8TAHok23:05
sarir:-)23:05
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W8TAHslide all the sliders to the top23:05
W8TAHand make sure all the checkboxes are cleared23:05
bloodwingthey are23:05
bloodwingthay all are23:05
W8TAHhummmmm23:05
bloodwingmy bar at very left is at top, but its only at nine?923:05
W8TAHdid you check to make sure you sound system is enabled - per ubuttous message?23:06
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bloodwingwhat about the horizantal bar at bottom that says "VIA 8235"23:06
bloodwinghow do i make sure sound system is enables23:06
bloodwinghow do i make sure sound system is enabled23:07
W8TAH!sound23:07
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP323:07
bloodwingi went to both of those sited23:07
bloodwingdid not help23:07
W8TAHbloodwing: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked.23:07
sariroh yes i forgot it :-/23:07
sarir!jockey23:07
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about jockey23:07
W8TAHbloodwing: not to be insulting -- but are you sure your speakers work? are plugged in, turned on etc?23:08
bloodwingyes they do and are23:08
W8TAHok23:08
bloodwingi checked on windows23:08
dustmanW8TAH: for me sounds stops working once in awhile, noticably aafter waking system from suspend mode23:08
W8TAHdustman: im no expert23:09
bloodwingim still trying to do the system setting thing..23:09
W8TAHi never ever suspend systems -- so all the acip stuff -- i dont know anything about23:09
dustmanW8TAH: just saying not everything in that faq23:09
W8TAHi still dont know anything about it -- im sorry23:10
sarirW8TAH, which is suppost to be the best movie player here now?23:10
sarirsupposed*23:10
W8TAHim a fan of mplayer / gmplayer23:10
W8TAHbut VLC also works well as does kaffeine23:11
sarirW8TAH, gmplayer?23:11
sarirno vlc23:11
W8TAHgmplayer is the gnome frontend to mplayer23:11
W8TAHworks quite nicely23:11
sarirok23:11
sarirsudo apt-get install gmplayer?23:12
W8TAHworth a try - -you will also need to do some digging in the wiki on restricted formats23:12
W8TAHi cant remember the command line to install it23:12
sarirno23:12
dustmansarir: they are many23:13
dustmanall about choice and preference23:13
sarirW8TAH, can you please help me... i can install whatever just to see if it's everything ok with the shell?23:13
sarirdustman, yes....23:13
W8TAHsarir: try this23:13
W8TAHsudo apt-get install vim23:13
sarirW8TAH, i am not good at all with commands23:13
sariryes it works23:14
sarirgreat23:14
sarirthanks W8TAH23:14
W8TAHsarir: im not as good as i should be but they will help you greatly as you progress in using linux23:14
W8TAHnp23:14
dustmansarir: sudo apt-get foo23:14
sarirW8TAH, i started during may using ubuntu23:14
sarir:-/23:14
W8TAHgood -- keep at it23:15
sarirdustman, :-)23:15
W8TAHit gets better23:15
alba6anyone using hardy here?23:15
sarirW8TAH, i have everything now23:15
bloodwingi dont think it will help, but, i forgot to mention that no matter what, if my speakers are turned on while on kubuntu, i hear static.. but it, my speakers, work fine on windows.23:15
sarirhardy under vista23:15
sarirand kubuntu in dual boot23:15
alba6im seriously thinkin about ditching ubuntu23:16
alba6after 6 years23:17
sarirdustman, what was that foo, a joke?23:17
alba6hardy is a joke23:17
sarirvim -.-23:18
alba6tried everything to get it to work23:18
vinsalut23:21
dustmansarir:23:22
sarirdustman,23:22
dustmanusually you substitute foo with whatever you need23:22
dustmanor want23:22
sariroh so.. i dont have a clue about it23:23
sarirbut i was not able to install it in any case dustman23:23
sariraaaaaaaah sorry dustman23:24
sariri just now realize what you mean23:24
sarirlol23:24
vitopomaciaoooo23:24
vitopomahello23:24
vitopomacan i have some icons in the desktop in kubuntu intrepid?23:24
sarirchiedi e ti sará dato23:25
vitopomaciao sarir23:25
sarirhi vitopoma23:25
vitopomaho appeta installato kubuntu intrepid23:25
chfwiggum!it23:25
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)23:25
sarirvitopoma, speak english23:25
vitopomai want to know23:26
vitopomaif i can have some icon in the desktop23:26
sarirvitopoma, #ubuntu-it+1 as well23:26
vitopomain kubuntu23:26
sarirvitopoma, join that channel23:27
vitopomaciaoo23:27
sarirbye23:27
vitopomaho appena installato ubuntu intrepid23:27
sarir-.-23:27
vitopomabellissima grafica, ma mi sento un po spiazzato dal nuovo kde23:27
vitopomavolevo sapere23:28
jussi01vitopoma: only english in here please, and kde4 support is in #kubuntu-kde423:28
sarirvitopoma, join the channel #ubuntu-it+123:28
sarirjussi01, why you didnt like us?23:30
jussi01sarir: I didnt know it existed, so wanted to check it out. I dont speak italian23:31
sarirjussi01, are you from finland?23:31
sarirjussi01, sure it exists23:31
jussi01sarir: yes, Im from finland. join me in #kubuntu-offtopic for more chatter23:32
sariryes sorry23:32
dustmanhow to extract audio info from dmesg?23:40
jussi01dustman: perhaps: dmesg | grep audio23:40
dustmanI tried grepping for 'audio' 'sound' 'azalia' with no results23:40
jussi01heh23:40
dustmannothing relevant for ATI23:41
dustmanstrange thing it works, so I'm sure it should be there23:42
CoJaBo-EeeAnyone have any suggestions on what I can use to cut and burn an MPEG to DVD, preferably without encoding (and is there a way to make sure the file actually is DVD ready)?23:59

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