[00:02] <frozzenfire> hey guys
[00:03] <contrast> Greets, everyone...
[00:04] <contrast> Anyone know how to start a program on a host's display when logged into it via SSh?
[00:15] <contrast> Anyone know how to start a program on a host's display when logged into it via SSh?
[00:15] <VStyDS> hello
[00:17] <contrast> !hi | VStyDS
[00:18] <Hamra> dual boot question: if i have a boot loader on the MBR i use for most of my OSes, and i installed a boot loader on one of the partitions, what menu entries do i need for the 1st boot loader so i get the menu of this seconf boot loader?
[00:20]  * glade88|Away is away: Gone away for now
[00:21] <guti14> hi
[00:21] <kabotage> hi
[00:22] <etfb> Trying to burn a copy of a DVD, I get an error saying that k3b failed to retrieve all the CSS keys.  I've updated libdvdcss2 via Medibuntu.  What else can I do?
[00:22] <chfwiggum> etfb: dvd protected?
[00:23] <etfb> chfwiggum: Must be.  It plays OK though.
[00:23] <contrast> etfb: I've never had much luck with K3b and encrypted DVD's. I'd just use K9Copy (sudo apt-get install k9copy) to create the .iso, then use K3b to burn the image.
[00:23] <etfb> contrast: Ah!  I'll try that.  Thanks.
[00:24] <contrast> etfb: Last I checked though, I *think* the copy of K9Copy in the repos is broken. :-\
[00:24] <etfb> contrast: ??? Why's it in the repos then?
[00:24] <contrast> Got me.
[00:25] <contrast> Worth a shot though, it might've just been something on my system I broke.
[00:25] <lkjasa> contrast: 'bout your question, you mean something like  DISPLAY=":0.0" myapp &  ?
[00:25] <etfb> I love Ubuntu and the apt system, but I swear: someone needs to get a serious kicking about some of the crap that gets officially included...
[00:25] <contrast> lkjasa: I think so.
[00:26] <contrast> etfb: It's not "officially" included - it's in the Universe repo. ;-)
[00:26] <contrast> lkjasa: Beautiful, that got it. Thanks.
[00:27] <contrast> lkjasa: For some reason, setting the DISPLAY variable, then running the program after it's set wasn't working.
[00:27] <lkjasa> export DISPLAY=":0.0" should work
[00:28] <guti14> Algun espa;ol por aqui?
[00:29] <etfb> !es>guti14
[00:30] <guti14> gracias... thx
[00:31] <etfb> contrast: You're right: sigfault when I tried opening a DVD.  I'll go find the sources...
[00:32] <contrast> etfb: I'm pretty sure I tried that and it did the same thing. I *believe* vamps is the real culprit. :-\
[00:32] <contrast> I'm gonna see if Intrepid's copy of Vamps works in Hardy; if you wanna wait a minute, I'll let you know how that pans out.
[00:37] <contrast> etfb: http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/v/vamps/vamps_0.99.2-2_i386.deb - Looks like that got it. The disc image wouldn't even open, right?
[00:37] <etfb> contrast: Yep.  Just installing that and rerunning k9copy will work?  Or do I need to rebuild k9copy from source?
[00:38] <contrast> you should be fine after installing that.
[00:41] <etfb> contrast: Nope.  Still segfaulting.  Never mind, I have to go.  Thanks for your help anyway.
[00:45] <zabbadapp> how do i install a theme in kde4 ... i have the list with themes from kde-look.org in the settings window, but the gui is confusing and i there seems to be missing a "apply" button or something
[01:22] <geek> where/how do i set the DNS server for kubuntu?
[01:23] <ign0ramus> geek: knetworkmanager > manual configuration
[01:25] <geek> ign0ramus: thanks
[01:25] <ign0ramus> geek:
[01:25] <ign0ramus> oops.  no problem ;0
[01:26]  * geek had the DNS server on the router act up so i decided to use the spare DNS server i set up for fun XD
[01:26] <ign0ramus> you can always use 4.2.2.1-.6
[01:26] <ign0ramus> or OpenDNS
[01:28] <derdui> Kubuntu-de
[01:29] <geek> lol
[01:30] <geek> yeah, i'll be adding opendns as alternates as well. can't hurt to have backups
[02:14] <unitypunk> hey
[02:14] <albuntu> unitypunk : hello
[02:15] <unitypunk> whats up?
[02:15] <albuntu> everything ok
[02:15] <unitypunk> yeah
[02:16] <unitypunk> well
[02:16] <unitypunk> i was wondering about ssh
[02:17] <unitypunk> if i got openssh-server
[02:17] <unitypunk> is there somewhere i have to set it up
[02:18] <albuntu> unitypunk : i use putty
[02:18] <unitypunk> im on windows now.
[02:18] <albuntu> you can use it there too
[02:18] <unitypunk> well
[02:18] <albuntu> i dont know openssh but for me putty is perfect
[02:18] <albuntu> aaaaaahhhhh sorry
[02:18] <albuntu> you need the server ?????
[02:19] <unitypunk> hmm
[02:19] <albuntu> you need to setup a server
[02:19] <unitypunk> i was hoping i could get to a shell from my work
[02:19] <albuntu> or you want just a ssh client ?
[02:19] <unitypunk> i have a client on here
[02:19] <albuntu> ok then putty is perfect
[02:19] <albuntu> for a client
[02:22] <unitypunk> crap..
[02:22] <_gtt_> unitypunk - I might be weird, but I kind of like all of the luxuries I get along with WebMin
[02:22] <unitypunk> whats webmin?
[02:22] <_gtt_> webmin is a web-based system administration interface, that provides a shell via http (your browser)
[02:23] <_gtt_> it does all kinds of other wonderful stuff as well. if you search google, it's the first result.
[02:23] <unitypunk> hmm
[02:24] <unitypunk> i wish i knew what the external ip of my networ was..
[02:24] <albuntu> unitypunk : showmyip.com
[02:24] <unitypunk> not at home :-/
[02:24] <unitypunk> im at work
[02:24] <unitypunk> i want to play with my desktop at home.
[02:24] <unitypunk> :-/
[02:24] <_gtt_> when you get back home setup no-ip
[02:25] <unitypunk> yeah
[02:25] <unitypunk> ive used no-ip lots in past
[02:25] <_gtt_> sudo aptitude -y install no-ip
[02:25] <unitypunk> aptitude :/
[02:25] <unitypunk> apt-get?
[02:25]  * Dr_willis_ missed the question
[02:25] <_gtt_> that should work....but i prefer aptitude... remember i'm weird
[02:26] <Dr_willis_> I always install/use synaptic
[02:26] <Dr_willis_> or the commandline
[02:26] <albuntu> Dr_willis_ : the question was how to show the external ip
[02:26] <albuntu> Dr_willis_ : question made from unitypunk
[02:26] <albuntu> lol
[02:26] <_gtt_> hrmm
[02:26] <unitypunk> aptitude is aptget?
[02:27] <Dr_willis_> My router has a dyndns client bult in.
[02:27] <Dr_willis_> !aptitude
[02:27] <_gtt_> if you've sent yourself an email from home recently, you may be able to find the ip address in the headers from the email.
[02:27] <unitypunk> oh meh
[02:28] <_gtt_> yeah, the Buffalo's are good for built-in dyndns
[02:28] <albuntu> unitypunk : aptitude automatically installs recommended packages. apt-get doesnt
[02:28] <_gtt_> i think they both take my fav -y arg.
[02:28] <Dr_willis_> Hmm.. apt-get can auto-install recommended packages if ya give it the right args
[02:28] <Dr_willis_> I think.
[02:29] <albuntu> Dr_willis_ : yes. sort of
[02:29] <Dr_willis_> i rarely want it to autoinstall the reccomended.. becuase the reccomendations are often very... weird.. :)
[02:30] <Dr_willis_> Hmm the web site whatismyip has a simple url to get the ip now.     http://whatismyip.com/automation/n09230945.asp
[02:30] <unitypunk> _gtt_, im using ddwrt
[02:30] <unitypunk> on a wrt54g
[02:30] <_gtt_> you need to share the info on ddwrt
[02:30] <_gtt_> i think i got a wrt54g
[02:31] <_gtt_> got the wireless ethernet bridge too... really happy with it.
[02:33] <unitypunk> dd-wrt.org?
[02:33] <unitypunk> grab the right version for your router
[02:33] <unitypunk> and install
[02:36] <Schuenemann> can anyone tell me from which directory cron runs a task?
[02:37] <albuntu> Schuenemann : /etc/cron.daily
[02:38] <albuntu> Schuenemann : /etc/cron.d , cron.hourly cron.monthly
[02:39] <Schuenemann> albuntu, I have a ruby script that works when I call it myself (even from that directory) but not when cron calls it. An exception (broken pipe) is raised
[02:39] <Schuenemann> I've been on this for days... =(
[02:40] <albuntu> Schuenemann : try checking man for cron because i dont know too much about it.
[02:40] <albuntu> Schuenemann : man cron in terminal and you get all the explanation
[02:41] <albuntu> !cron | Schuenemann
[02:47] <Schuenemann> that is more a howto than an explanation about it
[02:48] <Schuenemann> I can't understand why it works when I call it
[02:55] <_gtt_> unitypunk: what would dd-wrt give me that i would not already have?
[02:55] <_gtt_> if its just more configuration, i dont have time or desire for it, but if it makes things faster or something that'd be great.
[03:11] <amazon__> oi
[03:11] <amazon__> jsdlhfkjlasdf
[03:11] <amazon__> oq é isso
[03:11] <amazon__> hsdkjfhsdakjlh
[03:11] <amazon__> sdhfjksdhgjçasd
[03:13] <administrator> hi need help installing program, ive tried package manger the file is listed and ive requested install but nothing happens, ive also tried refreshing list but same thing occurs
[03:13] <Predator106> you have to hit apply
[03:14] <Predator106> administrator: Is that what you did already? The package manager waits till' you select everything you want, then you hit apply
[03:14] <administrator> apply does not highlight sat for 5 mins nothing
[03:15] <Predator106> and you checked the box on one of them
[03:15] <Predator106> hm
[03:16] <Predator106> when it prompted to run as root, you did so right?
[03:16] <administrator> doesnt get that far
[03:16] <Predator106> no, it prompts for root right when adept starts
[03:16] <Predator106> if that is the one you are talking about
[03:16] <administrator> ive prviously added packages without any problems
[03:17] <albuntu> administrator : press ctrl+esc and check for adept because you may have open 2 or 3 of them and kill them and try again
[03:18] <Predator106> ctrl + escape?
[03:18] <Predator106> what is that supposed to do?
[03:18] <albuntu> Predator106 : maybe i am wrong but left ctrl + escape gives me the processes
[03:19] <administrator> ok checked none running ill try again
[03:19] <Predator106> albuntu: It must be how you set up kde normally, because it does not happen on mine. using Kcontrol i set it to windows setup, however
[03:19] <albuntu> administrator : open adept and it should ask for the password before opening
[03:20] <Predator106> yeah, I think it runs as user if you hit ignore
[03:20] <Predator106> thus not being able to apply
[03:20] <albuntu> Predator106 : maybe. i said it without thinking because for me it works. :)
[03:21] <administrator> it doesnt ask for password
[03:21] <Predator106> must be already in root-mode
[03:22] <albuntu> administrator : Predator106 is right. it must be in root mode. try choosing a package and applying
[03:24] <Predator106> albuntu: what does the ignore button even do on kdesu? Isn't it the same as cancel, it didn't start adept for me, I figured it would just run as user. Unless adept is one of those programs that can only run as root?
[03:24] <administrator> ok i searched for package selected it (mediatagtools) request Install but nothin for applying changes happening
[03:24] <albuntu> administrator : can you try restarting X
[03:25] <administrator> im new user this is my first day using linux ???
[03:26] <Predator106> administrator: logout and hit ctrl+alt+backspace
[03:26] <Predator106> then wait until it asks, and log back in
[03:26] <Predator106> this is almost like rebooting the computer, but faster
[03:27] <administrator> cool thank you ill be back in a few mins thanks for help in meantime
[03:27] <Predator106> k, np
[03:27] <basti> this is restarting x....
[03:27] <basti> nothing like "this is almost like rebooting the computer, but faster"
[03:27] <unitypunk> lol
[03:27] <unitypunk> basti
[03:27] <Predator106> lol
[03:27] <Predator106> well, it basically is
[03:27] <unitypunk> almost like it..
[03:27] <Predator106> as much is based off of X
[03:27] <unitypunk> but not..
[03:27] <unitypunk> why do i hate gnome..
[03:28] <Predator106> yep, hence the "almost like"
[03:28] <Predator106> plus, i wanted to put it into a lesser sense
[03:28] <Predator106> as the average user doesn't know wth X is, nor does he/she care
[03:30] <basti> so why didnt you tell him to use apt-get/aptitude?
[03:31] <Predator106> hm?
[03:31] <albuntu> basti : maybe because this was his first time
[03:31] <Predator106> yeah...
[03:31] <basti> so what?
[03:31] <basti> cold water
[03:31] <Oilfurnace1> IS KUBUTU 8.10 USING A GENERIC KDE BACKGROUND?
[03:31] <albuntu> basti : because he wasnt able to find kicker .
[03:32] <albuntu> lol
[03:32] <Predator106> heh
[03:32] <administrator> hi agin still the same problem not asking for password when starting and when tried to install its not for happening
[03:32] <basti> alt+f2
[03:32] <Oilfurnace1> ?
[03:32] <albuntu> Oilfurnace1 : #ubuntu+1
[03:32] <Predator106> Oilfurnace1: You talked in all caps, and then 5 seconds later you expect an answer....
[03:33] <Oilfurnace1> MY KEYBOARD IS BROKEN...
[03:33] <albuntu> Oilfurnace1 : than buy another one. lol. just kidding
[03:33] <Predator106> heh
[03:33] <albuntu> administrator : try opening konsole
[03:33] <Oilfurnace1> TOMRROW I AM
[03:34] <Predator106> Oilfurnace1: please use the onscreen keyboard :) j/k
[03:34] <Oilfurnace1> LOL
[03:34] <Oilfurnace1> I GOT TO GO ANYWAYS
[03:34] <Oilfurnace1> CYA
[03:34] <administrator> ok
[03:35] <administrator> administrator@localhost:~$ then prompt... now what???
[03:36] <albuntu> administrator : try sudo apt-get install package_name
[03:37] <Predator106> why does youtube suck the arse so much? Certain videos will stream really really fast, others won't stream at all or extremely, extremely slowly
[03:39] <administrator> cool thank you ie found the prblem another package is listed but is not available and that it may man that the package is missing or available from another source, thanks guys
[03:44] <albuntu> administrator : no problem
[03:45] <Predator106> albuntu: was wonderin' when you would say something, I felt obligated to say something even though I felt like I had done so little :)
[03:45] <albuntu> Predator106 : lol
[03:45] <albuntu> i just saw it
[03:45] <albuntu> :P
[03:45] <Predator106> heh
[03:45] <albuntu> anyways it doesnt make a difference
[03:46] <Predator106> well, a thank you left unreplied feels like not much of a thank you.
[03:47] <albuntu> going to sleep because its 5 am here :S
[03:47] <albuntu> goodbye all
[03:47] <Predator106> cya
[03:47] <albuntu> bye Predator106 ;)
[03:47] <Predator106> hopefully i'll see you around =)
[03:48] <albuntu> sure
[03:48] <albuntu> ;)
[03:51] <administrator> thanks again ill call back im sure as im new and i can reasure ill be back, thanks once again yuo are cool people for helping
[03:51] <Predator106> your very welcome
[05:10] <unty_punk> can anyone help me keep my network connection?
[05:10] <unty_punk> it seems like it dies every 20-30 mins
[05:11] <alakhia> using wireless?
[05:11] <unty_punk> yeah
[05:12] <unty_punk> other computers connected to same router are fine/unaffected./
[05:12] <alakhia> how do you reconnect?
[05:12] <unty_punk> the connection times out.
[05:12] <unty_punk> like..
[05:12] <unty_punk> if you knotice
[05:12] <unty_punk> thers like 3 unitypunks in here
[05:12] <alakhia> yup
[05:13] <unty_punk> on knetwork it shows as staying connected the whole time.
[05:13] <alakhia> so, how do you get your networking back? do you log out and log back in?
[05:13] <unty_punk> no
[05:13] <unty_punk> it just comes back in a few.
[05:14] <alakhia> anything to do with power management by any chance?
[05:14] <aitd> unty_punk: DHCP or static IP?
[05:14] <unty_punk> i didnt change anything in wireless/power managment.
[05:14] <unty_punk> dhcp
[05:14] <unty_punk> server is giving it a static ip
[05:15] <aitd> unty_punk a real server or a SOHO router acting as a DHCP server?
[05:15] <unty_punk> its a wrt54g, running ddwrt
[05:17] <unty_punk> lol
[05:17] <unty_punk> there goes clone 1
[05:17] <alakhia> so, it used to work and now doesn't ?
[05:17] <unty_punk> it worked fine when i was running windows.
[05:17] <alakhia> so, it never worked fine on kubuntu?
[05:17] <unty_punk> nope
[05:17] <aitd> unty_punk: Ok If I understand correctly then, you have a wireless router that is supposed to be giving you a static IP on connection
[05:18] <unty_punk> yeah
[05:18] <syock> If screen goes black after enabling desktop effects, does that mean my gpu isn't supported?
[05:18] <aitd> Do you have the router set to limit certain MAC wirless addresses?
[05:19] <unty_punk> nope
[05:20] <aitd> unty_punk Might try that first. It was what was causing the same kind of problem with my home network. IP conflicts that were solved using the Mac to IP address assignments instead
[05:21] <unty_punk> so assign the ip to the mac addy in router config?
[05:21] <unty_punk> brb
[05:21] <alakhia> unty_punk: i have no idea what is going on
[05:21] <alakhia> sorry
[05:21] <aitd> unty_punk yes
[05:22] <aitd> unty_punk also if and when you notice connectivity loss again, see if you can still ping the router and then the gateway
[05:23] <syock> off to restart....
[05:33] <unitypunk> okay
[05:33] <unitypunk> the mac addy is bound to ip.
[05:33] <aitd> unty_punk you seem to have signed in with two nicks at the same time
[05:34] <unitypunk> yes...
[05:34] <unitypunk> two seperate devices.
[05:34] <aitd> unty_punk ah
[05:34] <aitd> unty_punk Hopefully the issue is solved
[05:35] <unity`laptop> ill watch it from here..
[05:35] <unity`laptop> and see if it times out..
[05:35] <unity`laptop> lol
[05:35] <aitd> unty_punk: If not double check that your router is using its own IP to the ISP (network connection sharing)
[05:36] <unity`laptop> aitd,  its a little confusing. but the router is a reapeter
[05:36] <unity`laptop> with its own dhcp.
[05:36] <unity`laptop> bouncing from my modem
[05:36] <unity`laptop> wich is 192.168.1.x-xx
[05:37] <unity`laptop> and the repeater is 192.168.2.x-xxx
[05:37] <unity`laptop> the bouncer has all ports open via modem dhcp/firewall
[05:38] <unity`laptop> i think it would classify as a subnet
[05:39] <aitd> unty_punk: Have not used a setup like that but still think the mac to IP addressing will do the trick
[05:39] <aitd> What does arp give you?
[05:40] <unity`laptop> arp?
[05:40] <aitd> unty_punk your arp tables. Command arp -a
[05:40] <unity`laptop> okay
[05:40] <unity`laptop> brb
[05:41] <unitypunk__> DD-WRT (192.168.2.1) at 00:06:25:F5:33:17 [ether] on wlan0
[05:42] <aitd> unty_punk can you ping the modem IP ok?
[05:43] <unitypunk__> ping 192.168.1.1?
[05:43] <unitypunk__> yep
[05:43] <aitd> unty_punk if that is your modem.
[05:43] <unitypunk__> pings fine.
[05:43] <aitd> k
[05:44] <aitd> unty_punk I suppose some monitoring is in order for a while then. The only other thing I could think of offhand
[05:45] <unity`laptop> we'll wait and see.
[05:45] <aitd> unty_punk ...actually scratch the other idea. Thought about it some and it made no sense after the fact lol
[05:46] <unity`laptop> other idea?
[05:46] <aitd> unty_punk: yeah. I was thinking about the link between the modem and the router, but if you can ping the modem ok...
[05:47] <aitd> unty_punk: my thought was useless.
[05:47] <unity`laptop> lol
[05:47] <unity`laptop> next on my list of things to do..
[05:47] <unity`laptop> get ssh working
[05:47] <aitd> unty_punk: maybe run wireshark or tshark and see what changes may or may not occur over the time period between connectivtiy losses
[05:48] <aitd> unty_punk lanmap has come in handy for me to track down network issues too.
[05:48] <unitypunk__> seems stable right now..
[05:49] <unitypunk__> shit
[05:49] <aitd> unty_punk good deal... got to fly for now.
[05:49] <unitypunk__> how would i edit no-ip config?
[05:51] <aitd> unitpunk: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/No-IP.com_Client
[05:51] <unitypunk__> ohh i could use that..
[05:51] <unitypunk__> thnaks :)
[05:52] <jorge_> español
[05:52] <aitd> unitypunk__ I have no other ideas about that one. Just happened to have google up at the time... :) good luck. have to go.
[06:24] <kubuser> guys is domino in any respository? or is it something people must install without repository
[06:24] <kubuser> ?
[06:25] <Dr_willis_> !domino
[06:25] <Dr_willis_> No idea on that.. sorry
[06:29] <geek> hmm
[06:29] <kubuser> Dr_willis_: thanks. :)
[06:29] <geek> domino as in the lotus notes one?
[06:30] <kubuser> geek: no, one of theme (rendering engines) or something for KDE GUI.
[06:31] <geek> kde-style-domino - Domino widget style and kwin decoration for KDE3 appears to be in my repos
[06:31] <kubuser> geek: cool....
[06:32] <kubuser> geek: which repo...? I think I have all checked.... but apt-get install didn't find kde-style-domino.
[06:34] <geek> kubuser: no idea. maybe i could pastebin my sources.lst?
[06:35] <kubuser> geek: hmmm.... searching in Adept.
[06:35] <geek> http://pastebin.com/m734582dc i have all those + medibuntu
[06:35] <unitypunk__> mannn
[06:35] <kubuser> geek: thanks. :) looking thru.
[06:36] <geek> (one thing i love about ubuntu based distros. they have EXCELLENT third party repos ;p)
[06:36] <kubuser> running konq, Adept, konsole, irssi on a pII really take juice....
[06:37] <kubuser> geek: hehe, coming from gentoo I get confused between repos. Just like one repo base. :)
[06:37] <kubuser> geek: but K/X/Ubuntu's decission is understandable.
[06:39] <geek> kubuser: well, you only really need the basics. additional repos give stuff that the main distro can't or hasn't bothered to package
[06:39] <kubuser> but all the fun is in the extras.... no. :)
[06:40] <kubuser> the litlte dominos and the adesklets and the other neat things.
[06:40] <geek> yeah
[06:40] <geek> i kinda doubt gentoo's emerge (thats what its called) repos have *everything* do they? ;p
[06:41] <kubuser> geek: no they don't have everything. But most of them are in there. That way new overlays have to be added for really weird stuff... like experimental KDE4 support so the main devs don't wanna support it.
[06:42] <kubuser> but commonly used things like domino for themeing would probably be in there. really a n00b in kde. used to run xfce.
[06:42] <geek> kubuser: additional repos are equivilent to your 'overlays' i guess ;p
[06:42] <geek> lol
[06:42] <geek> with a PII xfce sounds like a better choice unless you maxed out your ram
[06:43] <kubuser> yeah that's why went with xfce. then with dwm. then alternated. now to try kubuntu blew away the machine and reinstalled kubuntu. KDE is pretty cool. also had kde3 installed on gentoo. never really used it....
[06:44] <kubuser> so where is this sources.lst file supposed to go?
[06:44] <Dr_willis_>  in /etc/apt/ normally
[06:44] <Dr_willis_> but now a days one dosent alter sources.list much. theres 'includes' that can get added in. :)
[06:45] <Dr_willis_> but  just rember to 'sudo apt-get update' after changing hte sources/repos
[06:45] <kubuser> errrr includes? (begin headache)....
[06:45] <Dr_willis_> yes. you can have several different 'sources.list' parts that get merged together
[06:45] <Dr_willis_> then to remove one repo. you just delete the one file
[06:45] <Dr_willis_> not messing about with an editor/config file
[06:46] <Dr_willis_>  the medibuntu repo - gives such an example in how they document setting up their repo
[06:46] <Dr_willis_> !medibuntu
[06:46] <Dr_willis_> sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[06:47] <kubuser> Dr_willis_: ok this sources.list.d part sounds familiar and cool. so I'll stuff the new .list file in there. :) then do an update?
[06:47] <Dr_willis_> that   /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list file gets 'included' in the repositories listing used.
[06:47] <Dr_willis_> or add them to a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[06:47] <Dr_willis_> you MUST update, after changing those things
[06:47] <kubuser> right my medibuntu was in there.
[06:47] <kubuser> will do (update). :)
[06:47] <internet_master_> im trying to install docsis on kubuntu and get this error in the terminal while using the make command /home/rocky/Desktop/docsis/src/docsis.c:77: undefined reference to `floor'
[06:47] <internet_master_> docsis_encode.o: In function `encode_hexstr':
[06:47] <internet_master_> /home/rocky/Desktop/docsis/src/docsis_encode.c:337: undefined reference to `floor'
[06:48] <internet_master_> what does this mean and what do I need to do to fix it
[06:48] <Dr_willis_> compiling from souce.. can be such a bother.
[06:48] <kubuser> Dr_willis_: so it the files have overlapping deps, that won't cause problems....
[06:49] <Dr_willis_> kubuser,  proberly not.
[06:49] <Dr_willis_> kubuser,  proberly get a warning about them
[06:49] <Dr_willis_> !find docsis
[06:49]  * Dr_willis_ wonders what docsis is
[06:49] <Dr_willis_> !info docsis
[06:49] <sigma_za> which program produces the best xvid rips of dvds? i need realy high quality in 700mb
[06:50] <kubuser> Dr_willis_: sounds ok. :) anything sounds fine.
[06:50] <internet_master_> it is a program used to read configuration files of a docsis cable modem
[06:50] <Dr_willis_> sigma_za,  most are just front ends to the various encoding tools out.. so ive rarely seen much quality diff.
[06:50] <Dr_willis_> if 2 tools are calling ffmpeg or mencoder with the same options.. the outpout should look the same.
[06:50] <kubuser> Dr_willis_: gentoo compiles everything. Do you have a rough idea how long it takes to compile a 1M source file on a pII? in Ubuntu even downloading a 10M files is faster.
[06:51] <sigma_za> whats the diff between transcode and mencoder?
[06:51] <Dr_willis_> kubuser,  i used gentoo for a long time.. :) then got sick of it
[06:51] <Dr_willis_> !info mencoder
[06:51] <Dr_willis_> !info ffmpeg
[06:51] <Dr_willis_> those 2 seem to be the most common tools to  encode videos. there may be others.
[06:52] <kubuser> Dr_willis_: Yeah I really really liked gentoo. Helped me learn how the system is put together. Plus it could really allow fine tuning on this pII. with XFCE lightweight. But now just trying kubuntu. kinda slow but still runs fine. Still run gentoo on the main one.
[06:52] <internet_master_> im thinking there is a missing package
[06:52] <Dr_willis_> avidemux - a free video editor - gtk version
[06:52] <Dr_willis_> internet_master_,  yep.. or that source is including somtning wrongly
[06:52] <internet_master_> that I dont have installed '
[06:52] <sigma_za> do they give really different results?
[06:53] <Dr_willis_> sigma_za,  ive never noticed much diff..   then again - they got 10000+ options  so  i imagine they can differ.
[06:53] <sigma_za> !info avidemux
[06:53] <internet_master_> i tried googleing for undefined reference to floor but couldnt find anything
[06:53] <Dr_willis_> i normally dont want to spend 3+ hrs reencoding a video im going to watch once at work then toss it out.
[06:54] <kubuser> Dr_willis_: any ideas how to go about moving from gutsy to hardy or intrepid?
[06:54] <sigma_za> have you used dvdrip?
[06:54] <Dr_willis_> floor is a common 'command' to find the  integer part of a #. rounding down.. :) but im not sure what that code is doing.. so it maybe some other  command.
[06:54] <Dr_willis_> kubuser,  i alwyas do clean installs.
[06:54] <Dr_willis_> !upgrade | kubuser
[06:55] <kubuser> Dr_willis_: hmmm. for upgrade you do not recommend cross version installs? too cluttered?
[06:55] <kubuser> Dr_willis_: all good to know.
[06:55] <Dr_willis_> cross version?
[06:55] <Dr_willis_> when a new releae comes out. I normally keep my /home and do a clean install
[06:55] <kubuser> Dr_willis_: cooking words here. cross version meaning from one major version upgrading to another major version as opposed to a fresh installed like you said.
[06:55] <Dr_willis_> i have my own scripts that then install the normal packages i like installed.. and do whatever tweaks i like to do.
[06:56] <kubuser> Dr_willis_: so you have a /home mounted on a different disk/partition or something?
[06:56] <sigma_za> intrepid feels really quick. but how do you configure nfs shares in it?
[06:59] <Dr_willis_> I often have /home on its own disk.. depending on the system
[06:59] <Dr_willis_> !nfs
[06:59] <Dr_willis_> I imagine the same as ya confogure NFS on the other releases. :)
[06:59] <Dr_willis_> I just edit /etc/exports
[07:00] <kubuser> geez doing update then install domino is upgrading me to hardy.
[07:00] <kubuser> 'coz of blindly putting in geek's sources.list in my sources.list.d folder.
[07:01] <kubuser> dumb thing to do.
[07:03] <geek> kubuser: .... you might need to do dist-upgrade if its beween versions
[07:03] <scarlet> greets everyone
[07:04] <kubuser> geek: hehe, it's doing own thang now. should've paid attention. however, it's probably better to let it just complete all the upgrades it does. Then to do a dist-upgrade then assess the damage. :)
[07:04]  * kubuser greets scarlet
[07:05] <geek> kubuser: i did mention to take a look, not use it >_>
[07:05] <scarlet> how do I get WoW to run on 8.10? I moved the files from the x86_64 version to the i386 version, because I was told that trying to get 32 wine to work under 64 was more hassle than it was worth, and I still can't get it
[07:06] <kubuser> geek: no worries. how else would one learn. :) I was being lazy instead of going thru all the entries, just wanted to install domino and get the themes going. :)
[07:06] <Dr_willis_> I would check the wine app database
[07:06] <Dr_willis_> !appdb
[07:06] <scarlet> I even tried to do it the idiot proof way and use cross over......yeah......that didn't work so well.  the installer keeps telling me iI need to d/l files I already have
[07:06] <geek> kubuser: i'll be going down that path in a bit anyway, i'm pondering swapping to intrepid, but i'm not entirely sure i want to XD
[07:07] <kubuser> geek: so, also good to see what hardy offers. hehe still using gutsy here. hopefully my ndiswrapper doesn't get jacked in the upgrade.
[07:07] <kubuser> geek: took a while and some scripting to get the wifi working. but now it's cool.
[07:08] <jmichaelx> is anyone else having problems playing videos with kaffeine? as of at least today, i can no longer play most videos in kaffeine (on two different machines).
[07:08] <scarlet> I don't see a distro for wine for intrepid ibex, would using the HH distro work?
[07:09] <Dr_willis_> !intrepid
[07:09] <Dr_willis_> Given how Ibex is still a work in progress.......
[07:09] <Dr_willis_> the 'safe' thing would be to use HH, and the latest wine from the winehq repos
[07:10] <kubuser> KDE4? Ok, that's cool. It's the right motivation to install intrepid.
[07:10] <Dr_willis_> i find kde4 to be motivation to NOT install intrepid
[07:10] <Dr_willis_> :)
[07:11] <kubuser> Dr_willis_: kde4 has some serious potential to offer eye candy. I love eye candy. XP, Vista, and such....
[07:11] <jmichaelx> Dr_willis_: same here. it is why i am contemplating ditching kubuntu
[07:11] <kubuser> so KDE4 with it's eye candy and dashboard stuff.... is very cool. (at least in looks). I have a prelimiary version of kde4 on gentoo. but it's doesn't do much as kde team hasn't released much of kde4 stuff....
[07:11] <Dr_willis_> 'Eye candy causes Ocular Cavities'
[07:12] <kubuser> Dr_willis_: hehe cavities....
[07:12] <Dr_willis_> Candy... Droooolll
[07:12]  * Dr_willis_ wants 'ear candy'
[07:12] <kubuser> ok so is there a command that will tell me what my kubuntu version is now? apt-get just finished.
[07:12] <Dr_willis_> but stay away from Nose Candy.. that can get you 5-10  in the pen.
[07:12] <Dr_willis_> :)
[07:13] <Dr_willis_> you may need to reboot if you did a major upgrade
[07:13] <kubuser> nose candy? :-|
[07:13] <kubuser> yeah, I just saw a generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[07:13] <kubuser> don't know why i'm already running kernel 2.6.22-14-generic.
[07:13] <Dr_willis_> kubuser,  slang for cocaine :)
[07:14] <kubuser> Dr_willis_: hmmm, didn't know. interesting....
[07:14] <jmichaelx> i just want to be able to play videos in kaffeine. unless i am missing something, it has always seemed to me that the maintenance of multimedia apps in kubuntu has been consistently wreckless
[07:14] <Dr_willis_> I find it much easier if i just never use kaffine
[07:15] <Dr_willis_> :) gmplayer/xine/vlc -  and the w32codecs  package - and i can play most anything i find
[07:15] <Dr_willis_> gnomes default player (totem?) has issues also
[07:15] <jmichaelx> Dr_willis_: it is a fine app, but the way it is maintained in kubuntu is the worst
[07:15] <jmichaelx> i hate totem
[07:15] <kubuser> I personally put in effort to install mplayer. Once it works, it takes care of everything.
[07:15] <Dr_willis_> I use mplayer on so many different disrots/machines/things.. i cant stand to use anytying else
[07:16] <kubuser> also with lirc support, it's just really cool.
[07:16] <jmichaelx> mplayer is able to play about anything, but it is primitive in some ways.
[07:16] <Dr_willis_> I got a wireless keyboard = ultimate remote.
[07:16] <kubuser> ok got domino installed.
[07:16] <kubuser> wireless keyboard? that's cheating.
[07:16] <Dr_willis_> I like mplayers ' play at 110%' or faster features... :)
[07:17] <jmichaelx> is there anyone in here able to play videos in kaffeine at the moment? i believe i have only had this problem for a day or so at the most
[07:17] <jmichaelx> ?
[07:17] <scarlet> cheers
[07:18] <kubuser> play at 110%. so you can watch faster? or watch more in teh same time?
[07:18] <Dr_willis_> kaffine just crashed here.. (over vnc) :) so it may not be a good test
[07:19] <kubuser> ok so how do I check my main distro from cli?
[07:20] <kubuser> or distro version.
[07:20] <Dr_willis_> fsb_release -a
[07:20] <Dr_willis_> i think
[07:21] <Dr_willis_> or lsb_release -a
[07:22] <kubuser> lsb it is. :) cool thanks. :) says gutsy. but will be interesting to see what it says after rebooting.
[07:22] <Dr_willis_> 'kubuntu power activate! reboot!'
[07:22] <internet_master_> uname -r
[07:22] <Colonel_Panic> hey can anybody tell me what's the easiest way to change my root partition size?
[07:22] <Colonel_Panic> I need to expand it by about 10-20 GB
[07:23] <internet_master_> fdisk
[07:23] <Dr_willis_> fdisk does NOT resize parittions
[07:23] <Colonel_Panic> how can I do this?
[07:23] <Dr_willis_> gparted can
[07:24] <kubuser> awwww kubuntu command not found.
[07:24] <Dr_willis_> boot a live cd with gparted, and use it to resize.
[07:24] <Colonel_Panic> I can resize the partition without deleting its contents?
[07:24] <Dr_willis_> backup imporntatn data first.. of course
[07:24] <Dr_willis_> resize with gparted does not lose data
[07:24] <kubuser> gparted definitely is very cool. it will resize your partition reliably.
[07:24] <Dr_willis_> unles sof course ya get a power outtage during the resize operation.. or the cat unplugs the pc.. or other nasty things
[07:24] <Colonel_Panic> OK so I need to boot to a liveCD...
[07:25] <kubuser> heck it will resize ntfs also without losing files.
[07:25] <Colonel_Panic> OK I'll do that
[07:25] <kubuser> Dr_willis_: don't even joke about power outage during resize....
[07:25] <Colonel_Panic> thanks
[07:25] <kubuser> that would be torture.
[07:25] <internet_master_> why would you even want windows
[07:25] <internet_master_> windows sucks
[07:25] <geek> kubuser: unless its vista NTFS
[07:25] <internet_master_> just use your entire disk for linux
[07:25] <Colonel_Panic> how about a power outage while flashing BIOS firmware?
[07:26] <internet_master_> you can use floppies to restore
[07:26] <kubuser> Colonel_Panic: hehe, don't think of such tortures....
[07:26] <geek> internet_master_: some people need windows apps, or prefer the safety net while switching over
[07:26]  * geek dual boots
[07:26] <Colonel_Panic> I only have Linuxc on this machine
[07:26] <kubuser> geek: so vista ntfs is different?
[07:26] <Dr_willis_> kubuser,  how about the grandson hitting the pretty blue power button on grandpas pc.
[07:26] <Dr_willis_> :)
[07:26] <internet_master_> use alternatives
[07:26] <internet_master_> thats what i do
[07:26] <Colonel_Panic> OKm I'm'a reboot
[07:26] <kubuser> internet_master_: because some apps only run on windows.
[07:26] <geek> kubuser: yeah. i used to triple boot. hillarious thing was vista's chkdsk didn't catch it, XP does
[07:26] <internet_master_> use and alternative
[07:27] <Colonel_Panic> pray to St. Linus for me
[07:27] <geek> internet_master_: funny thing is other than games, the one piece of essential windows software i need is open source
[07:27] <kubuser> internet_master_: if you can find alternatives and it works for you good. For some there are not alternatives or they aren't adequate.
[07:27] <Colonel_Panic> OK I'm outz
[07:27]  * geek hates gimp and PS and HAS to have paint.net for graphics manipularion
[07:28] <kubuser> geek: but vista is such a reliable OS....!!!!
[07:28] <kubuser> geek: *gasp*. gimp hater!
[07:28] <geek> i wish miguel icaza would hurry up and port it already XD
[07:28] <internet_master_> linux comes with everything you need you dont need anything else I have a 500 gb hard drive and nothing is installed except whatever came with kubuntu
[07:28] <kubuser> internet_master_: linux comes with everything you need. not everyone else.
[07:29] <internet_master_> people always download crap and thats what slows there computer down
[07:29] <kubuser> geek: what is being ported over?
[07:30] <internet_master_> what more does a person need chat internet and an office suite
[07:30] <Dr_willis_> I hate PS :)
[07:31] <geek> kubuser: paint.net
[07:31] <Dr_willis_> I still miss good old Deluxe Paint on my Amiga
[07:31] <geek> for one thing i can't grok how layers work in gimp
[07:32] <kubuser> paint.net? not familiar. gimp has been a real nice change from paint shop pro and other expensive suites....
[07:32] <kubuser> geek: for layers you just use google. LOL
[07:32] <kubuser> geek: dont' get how those things work either. But simple things are cool.
[07:32] <Dr_willis_> ive grabbed a book or 2 on gimp. that helps ya learn how to use layers. :)
[07:32] <kubuser> Dr_willis_: ok deluxe paint is probably before mah time.
[07:33] <Dr_willis_> layers are often the key to useing it  properly
[07:34] <kubuser> ok layers are easy. What I don't get is the 10 different places to configure the KDE gui. One for background, one for widgets, one for midgets, .... can't one theme file fix all?
[07:34] <geek> kubuser: layers works really well and simply on paint.net XD
[07:35] <kubuser> geek: since I'm not a graphics person, my needs are simple. Rotate, crop, resize, and drop shadow... :) For more I just google a tutorial and just follow it. It's still nice to be able to learn layers and use them....
[07:35] <geek> kubuser: this does all that.
[07:35]  * Dr_willis_ missed how layers became a discussion of the kde gui...
[07:35] <kubuser> geek: and free...?
[07:36]  * kubuser whispers something to Dr_willis_ 
[07:36] <Dr_willis_> in kde a 'theme' file - defines the other 'parts'  to use for that specific theme.
[07:36] <Dr_willis_> the other parts being the icon theme, border decor, widgets.. and.. somthing else.. i forget. :)
[07:36] <kubuser> so technically a theme files could control background, widget style, color scheme and all?
[07:36] <geek> kubuser: yup
[07:37] <Dr_willis_>  a 'theme' file can have no real data at all in it. :)
[07:37] <kubuser> so in other words kde-look.org just has too many incomplete submissions.
[07:37] <Dr_willis_> but a 'set' of those parts can be a theme
[07:37] <Dr_willis_> kubuser,  so does gnome-look.org
[07:37] <Dr_willis_> both are very disorganized
[07:37] <Dr_willis_> Often a 'window decoration' is in the theme catatory
[07:37] <kubuser> Dr_willis_: right. but the nice thing to have would be to download a theme that actually sets your kde to resemble the screenshot.
[07:37] <Dr_willis_> or a widget set is in the theme catagory. its just one part that can beused in a theme.
[07:37] <geek> kubuser: http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2007/May-15-1.html linux port. getpaint.net for the windows version
[07:38] <kubuser> geek: for windows. why would you use windows. didn't internet_owner just describe to you that all you need comes in linux. internet chat and im?
[07:38] <kubuser> wait, internet, notepad and chat.
[07:38] <kubuser> :P
[07:39] <kubuser> Dr_willis_: yeah gnome-look.org is also very disorganized.
[07:39] <kubuser> they show you a screenshot. you think after downloading the thing your desktop will look like that. turns out what you download only has a font-size setting. so you're still wondering how to make it look cool
[07:39] <kubuser> geek: j/k of course.
[07:40] <geek> kubuser: actually he's half right for 99% of users ;p
[07:40] <Dr_willis_> kubuser,  thats what ya get when ya get 1000's of peope just submitting stuff.. :)
[07:41] <kubuser> geek: to be honest, I find more and more things that just require windows anymore....
[07:41] <Dr_willis_> I find more and more - i dont need windows. :)
[07:41] <kubuser> linux is playing well tho. more people are writing more software.
[07:41] <Dr_willis_> but i do like some features of NERO under windows.. thats about all i need it for.
[07:42] <kubuser> Dr_willis_: lot of stuff in my usage still require windows. but linux has come a long way and can be used fulltime for my many needs. I find multimedia stuff to be completely transparent between teh two. If not the linux one slightly better.
[07:42] <Dr_willis_> I find media playback better under linux, and network ussage/transfering stuff.. better.. but for some reason on windows.. i can get the volume louder on my laptop then under linux. :)
[07:43] <Dr_willis_> tracking down all the codecs and stuff for windows.. can be a real pain
[07:43] <Dr_willis_> and actually using windows media player.. egads...
[07:43] <geek> kubuser: funny, but k3b and imgburn has replaced most things i used to use nero for
[07:43] <Dr_willis_> mplayer for windows - to the rescue
[07:43] <kubuser> Dr_willis_: hehe, I really like the wmplayer....
[07:43] <Dr_willis_> geek,  i just use the nero features to  convert avi --> dvd  stuff..
[07:43] <geek> Dr_willis_: my winboxes have cccp
[07:43] <Dr_willis_> I cant get wmplayer to even play half the stuff.. and i have installed cccp
[07:43] <geek> Dr_willis_: hmm, that i don't do
[07:43] <Dr_willis_> or the player sort of works.. some times..
[07:44] <kubuser> Dr_willis_: also in windows my system really had to be around 90% CPU usage before the video will chop and voice will chop. In linux tho, doing smaller things will make video choppy.
[07:44] <Dr_willis_> i have a nice 'remote controll' for the laptop.. that only works with windows media player. :(
[07:44] <kubuser> Dr_willis_: the remote control don't do lirc?
[07:45] <Dr_willis_> kubuser,  i transfer files over the network under windows and  the whole system gets choppy.  video and just chatting here..  under linux i can be uploading/downloading/transcoding..and still watch videos fine
[07:45] <kubuser> linux is main issue is the XServer and the whole graphics model. Other than that it's coming along very nicely.
[07:45] <Dr_willis_> i havent tried too hard to use it kubuser .   This is a HP DV2000 - they tried to make it a big 'multimedia' thing.. but  its a bit of a joke in that area.
[07:46] <geek> kubuser: there's a few attempts to replace X but none seel to be popular
[07:46] <kubuser> In windows, I can't do alt-space c and it will close the window. If busy then it will post the keys to the window as soon as it gets a chance. In linux it will just eat up the keys if types too fast....
[07:46] <Dr_willis_> they got a 'power on' button and a 'dvd' and a 'media player' buttons that just power up and auto-run the dvd player, or media player thats a front end to wmp. and  it really sucks. :)
[07:46] <kubuser> geek: would be nice to have faster stuff....
[07:47] <geek> kubuser: always ;p
[07:47] <kubuser> Dr_willis_: funny our video experiences are totally reversed in choppy ness.
[07:47] <Dr_willis_> Everytime X does some major changes..  people scream so much.. you would think the world is going to end.
[07:47] <geek> XD
[07:47] <geek> Dr_willis_: probably cause so much of the user experience is tied to it?
[07:47] <Dr_willis_> kubuser,  yep.
[07:47] <kubuser> right, but wonder how MACs do it. meaning do they have their own graphics stuff on top of freebsd or...?
[07:48] <Dr_willis_> geek,  yep. 8.04 came out with that almost-all-autoconfiguraing X feature.. and its caused quite a few issues..
[07:48] <Dr_willis_> kubuser,  I know you can get X for macs.. but not sure what they use.
[07:48] <kubuser> Dr_willis_: my HP has a remote that has bunch of stuff on it. It was cool to map all the keys using lirc files for mplayer and it just allow me to assign actions. Such as fullscreen unfullscreen. Which lack in regular window media player.
[07:49] <Dr_willis_> kubuser,  mine proerly can work with lirc then.. im just too lazy to try to get it working
[07:49] <Dr_willis_> Wireless keyboard..  and im happy
[07:49] <kubuser> Dr_willis_: 'coz for using freebsd, they GUI stuff on MACs is fast and super shiny.
[07:49] <geek> kubuser: they have their own compositing display system. X is needed for a few apps like openoffice though
[07:49] <kubuser> geek: yeah it's a nice system. very cool.
[07:50] <geek> they also have the advantage of only needin to support a limited range of hardware
[07:50] <kubuser> my main issue with X is the lost keys. If you are a keyboard person and do all shortcuts, X makes me repeat a lot of keys. Windows never does. Just processed them when it gets to them. So the comparison makes a big different in perception.
[07:50] <Dr_willis_> 'better support through limitations!'
[07:50] <karlyasmin> geek linux has limited amount of hardware as well
[07:51] <geek> karlyasmin: i disagree
[07:51] <Dr_willis_> I find linux supports more hardware then vista does...
[07:51] <geek> with windows, hardware manufacturers do support
[07:51] <Dr_willis_> linux has much much better 'old hardware' support.
[07:51] <karlyasmin> 64 bit vista or 32 bit vista?
[07:51] <kubuser> vista is getting better. recent usage hasn't made me run out the door .... so.
[07:51] <kubuser> so there.
[07:51] <karlyasmin> yeah thats why linux is cool
[07:52] <Dr_willis_> My hp printer has drivers built into vista... WITH only 1/2 the features missing that it had under xp with the drivers from hp....
[07:52]  * geek runs linux on a fairly modern laptop ;p
[07:52] <karlyasmin> so why do they put linpus on the asus laptop?
[07:52] <geek> oh, and a 8 year old desktop acting as a basic server
[07:52]  * kubuser runs linux on a pII from 2001 with 700MHz single core.
[07:52] <geek> karlyasmin: er, i thought the eee ran zandros?
[07:52] <Dr_willis_> so vista took away all the printers features thati actually used.
[07:52] <karlyasmin> why didnt they just put kubuntu on it?
[07:52] <geek> kubuser: 700 mhz is PIII
[07:53] <karlyasmin> zandros?
[07:53] <karlyasmin> no linpus
[07:53] <geek> xandros
[07:53] <kubuser> Dr_willis_: it's not a restriction. it's freedeom to enjoy less features.... it's for your own good. repeat after the vendor. It's for your own good.
[07:53] <geek> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASUS_Eee_PC
[07:53] <karlyasmin> asus works well with kubuntu?
[07:53] <kubuser> geek: hmmm.... this is a pII for sure. So you're saying it's even slower? the sticker on it still says pII.
[07:53] <geek> the dell mini 9 runs ubuntu netbook remix
[07:53] <Dr_willis_> kubuser,  but i really WANT to download 124+mb of drivers for my scanner/printer combo that include yet ANOTHER photo manager/printing app that tries to sell me a 'printing service package'
[07:54] <geek> kubuser: i'm running a PIII 450. they did NOT make 700 mhz pII ;p
[07:54] <geek> kubuser: try lshw (you may need to install it)
[07:54] <kubuser> Dr_willis_: yeah those extra limited slideshow viewing apps are so annoying that hp installs.
[07:55] <kubuser> geek: that's a lot of crap that scrolled by.
[07:55] <karlyasmin> geek why run linux on a higher machine? low end celeron runs faster that a dual core pentium    kubuntu vs. vista
[07:55] <karlyasmin> than
[07:55] <geek> karlyasmin: who said i run vista? ;p
[07:56] <kubuser> product: Mobile Pentium II
[07:56] <geek> kubuser: laptop?
[07:56] <geek> what processor speed, it'll say ;p
[07:56] <kubuser> slot: Microprocessor size: 400MHz capacity: 400MHz
[07:56] <geek> see? ;p
[07:56] <kubuser> righty....
[07:56] <karlyasmin> centrino?
[07:56] <geek> too old ;p
[07:56] <kubuser> geek: hehe, you're right.
[07:56] <kubuser> so it's even slower. LOL. But it's running this kubuntu fine. using it now.
[07:56] <geek> kubuser: how much ram?
[07:56] <kubuser> well until one tries to load openoffice.
[07:57] <kubuser> size: 256MB
[07:57] <geek> ahh
[07:57] <geek> thats a fair chunk but i'd try to have more
[07:57] <geek> my server has 640 mb and was blazing fast when i ran kubuntu on it...
[07:58] <geek> well as blazing fast as a pIII 450 can be XD
[07:58] <kubuser> geek: this laptop is so old why invest more. just keep it around to use linux flavors. Plus might turn it in to company to request update. It's company laptop.
[07:58] <geek> kubuser: thats a good idea ;p
[07:58] <kubuser> it's the X that slow things down. The products like firefox.
[07:58] <geek> kubuser: the server was free ;p
[07:58] <geek> kubuser: go xless? ;p
[07:59] <geek> irssi + screen + w3m? ;p
[07:59] <karlyasmin> firefox is slow?
[07:59] <karlyasmin> no way
[07:59] <kubuser> once you get used to using Chrome on windows, then move to linux on my dual core 2.6GHz  machine, it's painful to watch FF3 crawl along.
[07:59] <geek> chrome is awesome
[07:59] <kubuser> opening multiple tabs after first 3 tabs just starts taking long to respond.
[08:00]  * geek can't wait for a proper linux port of it
[08:00] <karlyasmin> there is no linux version of chrome
[08:00] <kubuser> geek: chrome is pretty cool. It does have a few things it doesn't render properly. Such as my trading account screens.... which FF3 and IE6/7 all render.
[08:00] <kubuser> karlyasmin: it's coming later.
[08:01] <geek> kubuser: ooh, forex.com?
[08:01] <kubuser> now using IE after chrome feels like you used to feel when using FF on windows after using IE.
[08:01] <kubuser> lol
[08:01] <geek> there's a codeweavers port of it using wine rihgt now IIRC
[08:01] <kubuser> geek: zecco.
[08:01] <geek> kubuser: ahh, the site my dad uses also has issues
[08:01]  * geek was proud when dad actually installed an alternate browser himself ;p
[08:02] <kubuser> zecco is charging 0 commisions for month of oct. trade as much as you want.
[08:02] <kubuser> geek: yeah after a while you start hopingg your family wouldn't be so luddite, no...
[08:02] <karlyasmin> ok i have a question kubuntu 8.04 has a problem with gcc compiler .......did they fix it yet?
[08:02] <kubuser> and you're happy to help or explain things but most don't want the help.
[08:03] <geek> kubuser: they are ok with getting help. they just don't want to learn ;p
[08:03] <kubuser> geek: they like you to do stuff. Just not explain the technical part.
[08:03] <kubuser> hehe.
[08:04] <geek> yup
[08:04] <kubuser> hehe.
[08:04] <karlyasmin> ok i have a question kubuntu 8.04 has a problem with gcc compiler .......did they fix it yet?
[08:04] <karlyasmin> no idea?
[08:04] <kubuser> geek: it's 2am. time for catching Zzzz's.
[08:04] <kubuser> geek: so you have a good nite. :)
[08:04] <geek> lol
[08:04] <geek> night
[08:04] <kubuser> Dr_willis_: nite dude.
[08:04] <kubuser> geek: nite. :)
[08:04] <geek> its 3.05 pm ;p
[08:05] <kubuser> geek: you're in .... ok I give up....
[08:05] <kubuser> geek: asia somewhere?
[08:05] <geek> singapore
[08:05] <kubuser> east asia?
[08:05] <geek> whois would tell you ;p
[08:05] <kubuser> hmmm.....
[08:05] <kubuser> :)
[08:05] <kubuser> hehe so easy to just ask the person instead of /whois.
[08:05] <kubuser> anyway nite. :)
[08:06] <kubuser> evening :).
[08:08] <infecto> time to wake up
[08:08] <infecto> good morning ;)
[08:09] <ehsan> hi all
[08:09] <ehsan> i,ve connected to internet now!!!
[08:09] <ehsan> but my browser can't open any page
[08:09] <ehsan> why?
[08:10] <ehsan> i use conqueror
[08:12] <Dr_willis_> seen others with thatissue..  often its  a proxy server setting..
[08:12] <Dr_willis_> try some other browsers?
[08:13] <karlyasmin> ehsan someone hacked into your isp and killed off the internet access
[08:13] <karlyasmin> for your account
[08:13] <karlyasmin> hahaha had the same issue
[08:14] <karlyasmin> oh wait you said you can chat?
[08:15] <karlyasmin> but you cant browse
[08:17] <infecto> he quit? :)
[08:19] <karlyasmin> he quit
[08:24] <saharagurl> hi there
[08:25] <saharagurl> anyone to chat here?
[08:28] <saharagurl> hey
[08:33] <saharagurl> hi guyz
[08:33] <saharagurl> helllooooo
[08:46] <Dr_willis_> Hmm.. weirdness.. Under Kde/Konqueror - i use the url    smb://FileServer/     and it shows a list of shares.. under gnome, it does NOT show the list of shares.. but  if i type in a name of  specific share. smb://FileServer/ShareName   gnome does see it and work...   anyone else noticed this issue?
[08:48] <stdin> they use different systems for the smb:// protocol, Konqueror uses KIO slaves, and gnome probably uses gnome VFS
[08:49] <Dr_willis_> yea.. but why would gnome not be showing the shares? searching the forums/wiki pages now..  Ive noticed this befor.. but never paid much attention to it. Wanting to help file a bug report/trouble shoot the problem
[08:49] <Dr_willis_> reading some bug reports now on the isue. :) lets see what it says
[08:50] <stdin> maybe the gnome one is only for accessing the shares, or has another way of listing the shares
[08:50] <ehsan> i want a link to download envy
[08:51] <stdin> !envy
[08:51] <Dr_willis_> the hits im seeing refer to the gnome-keyring - aparently  the smb://Fileserver/ is supposed to pop up a username/pass dialog..  that does not appear however.. but it Does if you enter a share name like i did
[08:51] <Dr_willis_> could be i only notice  the issue rarely because i let gnome rember my smb share passwords..
[08:51] <Dr_willis_> this is a new install on a box i am  playing with.
[08:52] <ehsan> any link?
[08:52] <stdin> I haven't needed to use smb in a while, I mostly share between linux boxes where sftp/sshfs works fine ;)
[08:52] <stdin> ehsan: it's in universe
[08:52] <stdin> !universe | ehsan
[08:53] <Dr_willis_> i just spent 30 min troubleshooting no sound on this machine.. and then realized that ages ago i had disabled the onboard soundcard in the bios... :)
[08:53] <Dr_willis_> thentook 10 min to Find out where to re-enable it.
[09:22] <Dr_willis_> Ok. this samba stuff is getting weirder... under KDE it sees the shares.. but its not showing all the directories In the share.. under gnome.. i enter the share name.. but it sees all the directories...
[09:23] <Dr_willis_> First i thoght it was due to weird directory names.. but the directoryits not showing is just called 'sh'
[09:29] <delight> Does anybody know why 8.10 beta still includes an very old kdesvn client ? I'd think it would be smart to use the kde4 version http://kdesvn.alwins-world.de/wiki/DownLoads
[09:30] <Dr_willis_> unless the new svn version hsa bugs that make it unuseable...  but you may want to ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:41] <emilsedgh> how can i see which directories are using most of my disc usage?
[09:41] <oturan_> hi
[09:41] <Dr_willis_> the konqueror file manager has a 'show size' feature that displays them in blocks..
[09:41] <Dr_willis_> or theres other gui tools that do the same
[09:42] <Dr_willis_> theres some command line ways also.. but i forget how
[09:43] <oturan_> I can't see clear video from kaffeine DVB. Do i need a codec or something for kaffeine? I have nvidea dirvers installed.
[09:43] <ehsan> stdin: i'm in adept now
[09:43] <ehsan> stdin: so how can i install envy by it?
[09:43] <stdin> ehsan: what versions of Kubuntu do you have?
[09:43] <Dr_willis_> !info envyng
[09:43] <Dr_willis_> !envyng
[09:43] <ehsan> stdin: wait
[09:44] <akash> hi....I have a question regarding Updating Kubuntu.
[09:44] <Dr_willis_> the package name seems to be 'envyng-qt' or 'envyng-gtk' perhaps?
[09:44] <ehsan> stdin: 8.04
[09:44] <stdin> ehsan: go to Adept -> Manage Repositories and make sure it setup like:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources
[09:44] <shreyas> hello
[09:45] <akash> What R necessary links I need to add in sources.list in order to update Kubuntu 7.10
[09:45] <oturan_> any idea about kaffeine DVB problem?
[09:46] <stdin> !upgrade | akash
[09:46] <ehsan> stdin: should i update server lists?
[09:47] <stdin> ehsan: after changing what sources are enabled, yes. click the "Fetch Updates" button
[09:47] <ehsan> stdin: ok
[09:47] <stdin> ehsan: then you should be able to install the envyng-qt package
[09:47] <shreyas> hello anybody
[09:47] <ehsan> stdin: thanks a lot
[09:47] <shreyas> anyone ?
[09:48] <shreyas> hello
[09:48] <oturan_> anyone help me?
[09:48] <akash> Thanks ubottu...but I m getting foll error:- E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:48] <shreyas> no sound on compaq presario laptop running fedora 9
[09:49] <Dr_willis_> And what does fedora have to do with Ubuntu?
[09:49] <stdin> akash: make sure you have set up your sources like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources
[09:49] <shreyas> dont i get solutions here ?
[09:49] <shreyas> for fedora ?
[09:49] <Dr_willis_> shreyas,  fedora is a different linux disrto then ubuntu.
[09:49] <Dr_willis_> or Kubuntu - in this case.
[09:49] <shreyas> so where shall i look into ?
[09:49] <Dr_willis_> They proberly got their own channel. :)
[09:49] <stdin> shreyas: #fedora
[09:50] <shreyas> ohhk thanks
[09:50] <shreyas> have a good day :-) cya
[09:50] <oturan_> anyone help me plz?
[09:50] <shreyas> help ? @oturan tell me
[09:50] <oturan_> I can't see clear video from kaffeine DVB. Do i need a codec or something for kaffeine? I have nvidea dirvers installed.
[09:51] <shreyas> @ oturan : well if u cant see video .its probably ur mpeg or avi codecs missing
[09:51] <shreyas> @ oturan : u can download them free from repositories
[09:52] <oturan_> i watc h any movie i cant watch clearly DVB i mean digital TV
[09:52] <Dr_willis_> try some other video players perhaps.. and run them from the terminal looking for any error messages.
[09:52]  * Dr_willis_ is not sur what you mean by DVD/Digital TV.
[09:52] <Dr_willis_> You are using Kaffine to watch tv onyour tv tuner card you mean to say?
[09:52] <shreyas> @oturan: u could use vlc media for that.its free n has all codecs for u
[09:53] <oturan_> yes axactly dwills watch TV
[09:53] <Dr_willis_> try some other tv tuner apps perhaps.
[09:53] <Dr_willis_> if they work then youknow its a kaffine issue
[09:53] <oturan_> yes i think so
[09:54] <oturan_> ok thank you anyway
[09:56] <shreyas> welcome @ oturan
[10:01] <dustman> hi
[10:02] <dustman> Is it possible to open a link from kmail in new tab in konqueror instead of new window?
[10:02] <haksell> Probebly
[10:03] <haksell> But its easier to open every link in a konqueror tab
[10:03] <dustman> I'm bit lost in settings and google return many irrelevant results
[10:03] <haksell> There is a section on default applications in the system settings
[10:05] <Freku> setting in konquerer itself ?
[10:06] <Freku> settings - Configure konquerer - open links in new tab
[10:07] <dustman> Freku: in what part of settings exactly?
[10:07] <Freku> In konquerer self
[10:07] <Freku> Menu -settings
[10:10] <dustman> Freku: I might be really dumb but I can't see Menu-settings
[10:10] <dustman> Behavior to Performance
[10:10] <dustman> but no Menu
[10:10] <dustman> ops, found
[10:11] <dustman> but it still open links clicked in Kmail in new window in Konqueror
[10:12] <dustman> works
[10:12] <dustman> thank you, Freku
[10:16] <dustman> btw, is it possible to tab several windows together under a single program bar, like in fluxbox?
[10:16] <Dr_willis_> Not that ive seen dustman
[10:16] <Dr_willis_> thats the 'big' feature of fluxbox. :) seen a few other window managers that can do it.
[10:16] <Dr_willis_> you could replace kwin with fluxbox if you wanted.
[10:17] <dustman> what's good side of kwin comparing to fluxbox?
[10:18] <Dr_willis_> its designed to work with the rest of kde.
[10:19] <dustman> my impression is that kde really benefits from bigger screen
[10:20] <dustman> since mine is 17", it's bit cluttered
[10:20] <msshams> do you suggest openoffice-kde or koffice?
[10:20] <Dr_willis_> i just use openoffice
[10:20] <Dr_willis_> never efen noticed a openoffice-kde
[10:20] <dustman> although possibility to customize look like this of CDE is funny
[10:25] <emilsedgh> msshams: openoffice-kde just makes OO.o look like other kde applications and changes the icons, etc
[10:26] <msshams> emilsedgh: so is this engines QT?
[10:27] <albuntu> i never heard this and didnt know it existed :S
[10:27] <emilsedgh> msshams: nope
[10:28] <msshams> emilsedgh: tell me please that gtk appleactions works fine on kde?
[10:28] <msshams> applications*
[10:28] <Dr_willis_> msshams,  err... all of them
[10:28] <emilsedgh> msshams: they do
[10:28] <Freku> my pc froze  had to reset
[10:28] <Freku> found the settings yet ?
[10:29] <dustman> Freku: yep, thank you
[10:30] <Freku> ah ok
[10:30] <msshams> emilsedgh: please introduce me replacement package of gimp, inkscape, bluefish and audacity for kde.
[10:30] <Dr_willis_> theres no need to 'replace' them.. they work fine under kde
[10:31] <emilsedgh> msshams: krita is good for simple jobs.as for inkscape, i still recommend inkscape.quanta is as good as bluefish and Amarok is the best music player out there
[10:31] <emilsedgh> msshams: but yeah, as Dr_willis_ said, they just work fine in kde
[10:31] <msshams> Dr_willis_: but, gtk applications has a good look on KDE?
[10:31] <Dr_willis_> ive rarely seen any issues with mixxing up kde and gnome these days.. ages ago there were some quirks.. but not  many that i know of now a days
[10:31] <albuntu> emilsedgh : i am with you. amarok is the best
[10:32] <Dr_willis_> msshams,  they can 'look/use' the kde themes  i rarely notice if im using a gnome or kde app.
[10:32] <emilsedgh> albuntu: indeed
[10:32] <dustman> damn sound... simply stopped working for no reason
[10:33] <dustman> is there way to re-initialize it w/o rebooting?
[10:33] <msshams> thank you...
[10:33] <Dr_willis_> restart the alsa service?
[10:34] <dustman> well, 'ps aux | grep alsa ' show no such service
[10:35] <Dr_willis_> $ /etc/init.d/alsa-utils status
[10:35] <Dr_willis_> !alsa
[10:35] <albuntu> sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[10:35] <albuntu> or maybe just start
[10:37] <Dr_willis_> sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils work you lazy thing --please --just --work
[10:37] <albuntu> hahahahahahahaha
[10:38] <dustman> well, didn't help... back after reboot
[10:42] <dustman> restart worked
[10:42] <Dr_willis_> Yea! restart again ! it will make it even more better.
[10:43] <dustman> Dr_willis_: of course I will! ...in a week or so..
[10:46] <Dr_willis_> Do it now!
[10:46] <Dr_willis_> 'new disk inserted, please reboot to allow system to reboot to get ready to reboot to allow reading of the disk'
[10:47] <dustman> probably last question for today: how to see non-latin metadata info for songs in amarok
[10:47] <dustman> Dr_willis_:  yep!
[10:47]  * dustman typing 'sudo rm -rf /'
[10:48] <stdin> dustman: do not post that in here!
[10:49] <dustman> what? someone listened to this?
[10:50] <Dr_willis_> !ohmy | dustman
[10:50] <Dr_willis_> :)
[10:51] <dustman> :(
[10:53] <dustman> btw, kde gives strange feeling for first time- although programs start subjectively slower, system uses fewer resources
[10:54] <Freku> i my car goes slower, my car uses fewer resources  :)
[10:55] <Dr_willis_> The older i get .. the  slower i startup also...
[10:55] <albuntu> dustman : the new kde is economic. it looks forward to afford the bank crysis :P
[10:56] <Freku> back to xfce ?
[10:57] <dustman> neah, xfce is bloated
[10:57] <dustman> fvwm2
[10:57] <dustman> ;)
[10:58] <Dr_willis_> jwm
[10:58] <Dr_willis_> I sort of like jwm + rox-filer
[10:59] <dustman> I like *boxens
[10:59] <ldp> hello
[10:59] <Dr_willis_> go try matchbox. :) its not related to Fluxbox/openbox/blackbox
[10:59] <ldp> openbox is win
[10:59] <ldp> :D
[11:00]  * dustman prefer flux :)
[11:00] <Dr_willis_> sawfish!
[11:00] <dustman> http://matchbox-project.org/
[11:01] <ldp> I find Pek and ob the best
[11:02] <Dr_willis_> the matchbox packages under ubuntu.. need a little work. :(
[11:02] <ldp> KDE + Openbox == sheer bliss
[11:02] <Dr_willis_> it installs .. but dosent do the right things needed to get  desktop going.
[11:02] <dustman> fluxbox, fvwm2, cwm <- in that order
[11:02] <Dr_willis_> I did see 'OLPC' Desktop packages for ubuntu.. and tried it out.. and couldent do diddly with it. :)
[11:02] <ldp> dustman: Have you tried wmii?
[11:02] <ldp> It's sick fast, unbelievable
[11:03] <Dr_willis_> !info wmx
[11:03] <Dr_willis_> i used wmx for ages years ago also. :)
[11:03] <dustman> ldp: wasn't really fond of it
[11:03] <dustman> I like using mouse
[11:04] <dustman> but not for file manipulation
[11:04] <Freku> ah the mouse generation :)
[11:04] <Dr_willis_> we keep both hands on the keyboard in my day!
[11:05] <dustman> heh, these days are over
[11:05] <Freku> well 1 pushing away the cat from the keyboard
[11:05] <Dr_willis_> 'you kids and your new-fangled cOmPuuter Moles!'
[11:05] <Dr_willis_> "You mean Mice Grandpa?"
[11:05] <Dr_willis_> 'Mice/Moles/Rats.. they are all vermin!'
[11:06] <dustman> Dr_willis_: you don't use emacs by chance?
[11:06] <Dr_willis_> I use vi :)
[11:06]  * dustman gets ready for new flames
[11:06] <dustman> damn
[11:06] <Dr_willis_> i never did get into emacs that much
[11:06] <Dr_willis_> I used a variant of it on my amiga years ago.. but then had CygnusEd as my main editor.
[11:06] <Dr_willis_> and vi on the Mainframes at collage
[11:07] <dustman> gvim + mouse ;)
[11:07] <Dr_willis_> Every time i reread my using vi book.. i learn somthing new.
[11:08] <dustman> this is my first computer to work reasonably well with KDE
[11:09] <Freku> so you finnaly got a pentium 3
[11:10] <dustman> ha... ha....
[11:27] <ldp> I use SciTE
[11:38] <nji> tes
[11:48] <lucas__> hi everybody
[11:49] <ldp> hello
[11:51] <lucas__> how are you?
[11:52] <ajaya> can anyone help me.. wht is GTK+? How to install it?
[11:52] <ldp> fine
[11:52] <ldp> ajaya: GTK is a gui toolkit. the one for KDE is Qt, and the one for gnome is GTK
[11:53] <ldp> just search adept for gtk, i forgot the package name
[11:53] <ajaya> ya I tried..
[11:53] <ajaya> but I am not able to get any repository.
[11:54] <ldp> have you checked all repos in the preferences?
[11:55] <ajaya> ya.
[11:55] <ajaya> I even tried to download it from the site of GTK.
[11:59] <berkes> is anyone here using strigi with success? Mine just keeps crashing, hanging or returns no result.
[11:59] <berkes> maybe its a wrong setting?
[12:01] <berkes> it says "Status stopping", but somehow the strigideamon is not responding and does not stop.
[12:09] <LordCrc> hi
[12:10] <LordCrc> seems my kubuntu just wont work with wpa-aes
[12:10] <LordCrc> only wpa-tkip :/
[12:11] <LordCrc> also "auto" mode fails each time, i have to manually select tkip each time i connect
[12:13] <LordCrc> how can i fix this?
[12:18] <hagabaka> what font packaged in ubuntu is suitable for general use but more interesting than bitstream?
[12:18] <Thor> is there any command that allow to rename a batch of files ?
[12:20] <hagabaka> there is a renameutils package containing a few commands for that
[12:22] <hagabaka> actually not that, but there's a rename and a rename.ul command, not sure from which packages
[12:23] <sudhang> i think it comes with perl?
[12:24] <g-hennux> hi!
[12:25] <g-hennux> i'm on kubuntu gutsy and am trying to get my multimedia keys on the keyboard to work. most already do, like "next track", "new email" and such. where can i configure the rest of the keys?
[12:25] <g-hennux> or, for example, pressing "mute" mutes the wrong channel
[12:37] <dustman> how to set different Konsole size for new shell windows?
[12:39] <dustman> oh, found it
[13:04] <dustman> googling didn't give real answer on analog of NoScript for Konqueror, beside whitelisting
[13:04] <dustman> is there easy tool like this for Konqueror?
[13:08] <ubuntu_> i have a big problem: i had to reinstall windows last weekend and so i can't access my linux. i tried a lot to restore grub but it all failed result is now that even the install cd as well as qparted only see /dev/sda which is my whole hard drive. In windows i can see my partitions and using the live cd i can also see and access them. How can i fix this?
[13:09] <LordCrc> you'll need to reinstall grub as the boot manager afaik
[13:09] <LordCrc> how though :)
[13:10] <LordCrc> ubuntu_: perhaps http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html ?
[13:10] <RenzoreK> Why is it sometimes when logging in the icons in the K dock (next to the date/time) don't minimize and appear as tiny windows in the upper left (re-logging in most of the time fixes this problem). Anyone seen what Im talking about before??
[13:11] <ubuntu_> i tried thatm problem is i can't mount the partitions...the thing doesn't see them
[13:11] <LordCrc> but you can?
[13:12] <dustman> ubuntu_: I heard editing grub config might help
[13:13] <ubuntu_> in windows i see my windows partition, my data partition, and 3 unknown, which are /boot, swap and /
[13:13] <ubuntu_> with the live cd under storage media i see them as well
[13:14] <dustman> if you managed to install grub, just edit it and say what it must load
[13:14] <ubuntu_> but the installerm alternate installer as well s qparted don't see them
[13:16] <dustman> ubuntu_: or you can simply mount your / under livecd and copy what you need to a new partition
[13:16] <alarm> hello, i got a question about fsck, as i do not know if that is normal or not. when i boot on kubuntu sometimes , on the boot screen i get the common message "sdaX hasnt been mounted for 30 times" (for example) and starts a root fsck . the problem is:
[13:17] <alarm> that although the OS is fresh installed, the fsck may take even 1 hour to finish
[13:19] <dustman> ubuntu_: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Configuration.html
[13:24] <ubuntu_> if i take a look at my menu.lst it looks like it should with all suff in it, but last time i tried to reinstall grub i had some error about stage1 not being read correctly or something
[13:25] <Zopieux> hi
[13:25] <dustman> so just move your data using livecd
[13:27] <dustman> ubuntu_: since livecd sees your 'missing' partitions, check their info with 'mount' command and edit grub menu accordingly
[13:28] <Zopieux> guys, i'm having trouble installing kubuntu on my laptop
[13:29] <Zopieux> installation is blocked at 87%, it trys to retrieve date&time from a time server
[13:29] <Zopieux> but my laptop isn't connected to internet
[13:29] <Zopieux> what can I do?
[13:30] <freaky_t> can k3b burn audio CDs by default (from mp3 files)?
[13:30] <freaky_t> or do i have to install any special package before i can do that?
[13:31] <ubuntu_> if i type 'mount' it gives me /dev/sda6 on /media/disk (and if i take a look with dolphin, that's my old /boot)
[13:33] <tuxwulf> !dolphin
[13:33] <freaky_t> what is a good ftp client for kubuntu?
[13:35] <dustman> ubuntu_: I'm sure you'd like your old / , not /boot
[13:36] <ubuntu_> well at this point i don't even mind if i have to reinstall kubuntu from scratch, as long as i don't loose my windows in the process
[13:37] <ubuntu_> problem is i can't just reinstall, because the installer only sees /dev/sda as my whole hdd instead of all the partitions
[13:37] <Zopieux> thanks for your usefull help.
[13:37] <LordCrc> i want to start vncserver during startup (ie before i log on), and make it run "as me" (ie so when i connect to it, i get my). Any tips?
[13:37] <krawiec> join #ubuntu
[13:40] <dustman> ubuntu_: dunno if it relates to your problem: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/partition-types.html#primary
[13:42] <ubuntu_> i don't think so (it worked before and i didn't make new partitions or something)
[13:44] <dustman> when you run 'mount' while booted from livecd, can you see your old / ?
[13:45] <dustman> if 'yes', edit grub menu accordingly with correct disk/slices numbers/letters and boot it
[13:46] <dustman> if you can't see it, I can't recommend anything
[13:46] <dustman> since you could navigate to it via file browser, you *must* see it
[13:47] <ubuntu_> well i only see it if i open it first with going to storage media and then open the partition (so it auto mounts then i guess)
[13:47] <dustman> and if grub menu editing doesn't work, simple coping of important info to win filesystem will work
[13:48] <dustman> 'mount' with no argument shows quite a bit of info
[13:50] <ubuntu_> if i check the menu.lst and check fstab, it seems to be correct (as in fstab tells me that /dev/sda7 (my old / ) is UUID=*something* , that *something* is the same as in menu.lst under root=UUID=*something*
[13:53] <ubuntu_> i think it should be enough to be able to reinstall grub, that way it hsould be fine. i tried to do it like:
[13:53] <ubuntu_>  1. Pop in the Live CD, boot from it until you reach the desktop.
[13:53] <ubuntu_>  2. Open a terminal window or switch to a tty.
[13:53] <ubuntu_>  3. Type "grub"
[13:53] <ubuntu_>  4. Type "root (hd0,6)", or whatever your harddisk + boot partition numbers are (my /boot is at /dev/sda7, which translates to hd0,6 for grub).
[13:53] <ubuntu_>  5. Type "setup (hd0)", ot whatever your harddisk nr is.
[13:53] <ubuntu_>  6. Quit grub by typing "quit".
[13:53] <ubuntu_>  7. Reboot.
[13:54] <dustman> ubuntu_: I'm not really familiar with grub and you might get better answer in #ubuntu
[13:55] <DaSkreech> !grub
[13:55] <ubuntu_> only thing: if i type the 'root(hd0,6)' thing i get 'selected disk does not exist' (however my menu.lst tells me that "root" is (hd0,6)  )
[13:55] <dustman> DaSkreech: heh
[13:56] <DaSkreech> ubuntu_: use the first one it will walk you through the steps
[13:57] <ubuntu_> how wait, now it give me something, all other times the find /boot gave me file not found..now it gives me something
[14:00] <ubuntu_> now i get to "setup (hd0)" it tells me "/boot/grub/stage1", stage2 and e2fs_stage1.5 exists
[14:02] <ubuntu_> grub> setup (hd0)
[14:02] <ubuntu_>  Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... yes
[14:02] <ubuntu_>  Checking if "/boot/grub/stage2" exists... yes
[14:02] <ubuntu_>  Checking if "/boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5" exists... yes
[14:02] <ubuntu_>  Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0)"...  16 sectors are embedded.
[14:02] <ubuntu_> succeeded
[14:02] <ubuntu_>  Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+16 p (hd0,7)/boot/grub/stage2
[14:02] <ubuntu_> /boot/grub/menu.lst"... failed
[14:02] <ubuntu_> Error 22: No such partition
[14:03] <ubuntu_> or should i not type "root (hd0,7)" (which i get from find /boot/grub/stage1) but "root (hd0,6)"
[14:06] <ubuntu_> ah if i do "root (hd0,6)" i get a succeeded, let's try the rest...
[14:07] <ubuntu_> trying to reboot
[14:07] <piopeo> ?
[14:09] <dustman> anyone know how to get non-latin mp3 metadata to show correctely in amarok?
[14:17] <ubuntu_> ok i've a grub now, but only with something like bash edidting is possible, i don't get a list with the kbuntu's and win XP in it
[14:25] <ubuntu_> actually after doing the setup (hd0) thing and i quit en reboot (as told) i get the same text as i open a konsole and type sudo grub
[14:28] <azuredragon> :D
[14:28] <ubuntu_> sh*t maybe i had to type "root (hd0,1)"...
[14:29] <White_Pelican> when I insert a CD into the drive, how do I configure Konqueror to include flac?
[14:34] <White_Pelican> let me rephrase that. When I insert a CD into the drive, flac is not one of the options when I open in a new window. How do I fix that?
[14:37] <White_Pelican> is anyone here to answer my question?
[14:39] <m__> hello everyone!!!
[14:43] <wishie> i have an issue with KDE3.5.9 .. recently (starting today) knetworkmanager doesnt seem to start properly when i log into KDE
[14:44] <wishie> ps shows it running as 'knetworkmanager [kdeinit]' but it doesnt seem to load at all.
[14:52] <yakuzi> thanks guys i managed to get my system back
[14:53] <yakuzi> thing was, after the grub reinstall from within the live cd, i got the same when rebooting from hdd, so i did the install again, but this time while just booting, result: it works :)  )
[15:21] <aanishn> hi all, my monitor flickers constantly in kubuntu 8.10 beta, I googled up and found some posts pointing at a possible xorg-intel driver issue
[15:22] <dresnu> hello, does anyone know how to add a directory to the KDE enviroment variables PATH?
[15:22] <aanishn> In Xorg.0.log 6 lines constantly shows up I have pasted it here http://paste.ubuntu.com/56307/
[15:22] <aanishn> is any one else familiar with this issue, I was not able to find a fix any where though...
[15:24] <elisa> :)
[15:24] <elisa> !
[15:24] <elisa> :)
[15:24] <elisa> elisuntu
[15:25] <elisa> hello
[15:42] <giuseppe_> Hi, I have a question. When I update the kernel, is it better to re-install, re-compile video drivers?
[15:42] <Copertone> boh
[15:43] <Copertone> never compiled a kernel
[15:43] <jussi01> giuseppe_: Id suggest recompiling, as things may have changed in the new kernel
[15:43] <Copertone> but of couse video drivers are loaded on kernel so i "think" yu should reinstall every module you have
[15:43] <Copertone> add
[15:48] <x_link> Hi there my dear Kubuntu-users =)
[15:48] <x_link> Anybody here?
[15:48] <x_link> Needto ask a question.
[15:49] <dustman_> nobody's here
[15:49] <geek> !ask
[15:49] <x_link> Okey =)
[15:49] <x_link> I'm trying to fix my fingerprint read.
[15:49] <x_link> reader
[15:49] <x_link> Done as wiki told me, but I get an error
[15:49] <x_link> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/56315/
[15:50] <x_link> Thought if somebody might be able to help me?
[15:54] <BluesKaj> howdy
[15:55] <gekkoo> kdelibs5-doc does not contain any documentation at all. which package do i need to install to get kde4 api docs?
[15:58] <mixed1234> anyone knows of an app that can let you play wma files from the internet??
[16:05] <WTFWTHWhoKnows> how can i get the latest vlc on ubuntu (the one in the repo is reallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllly outdated....)
[16:05] <WTFWTHWhoKnows> i opened the konsole and added there debian (unstable) sources but its not working :/
[16:06] <Level15> hi all. a little bit offtopic here, maybe, but does anyone know how can i check which channels are being used byt wireless networks on my area? I think there's intereference between many wifi networks over here, and want to select my APs channel accordingly
[16:07] <geek> Level15: just hover your arrow over the network names in knetwork manager
[16:07] <Level15> hm, cool :D
[16:07] <geek> WTFWTHWhoKnows: compile it yourself?
[16:08] <WTFWTHWhoKnows> geek i tried but my live media lib is outdated and i cant get it to install there is no live directory when i try to run the cp command
[16:11] <pumpkin__> i have something eating up my physical memory and I can't figure out what it is. Any ideas?
[16:13] <pumpkin__> is anybody out there today?!
[16:14] <geek> pumpkin__: top
[16:19] <pumpkin__> hello, geek are you still there?
[16:20] <geek> pumpkin__: yes
[16:21] <pumpkin__> something is eating up my physical memory
[16:21] <pumpkin__> i can't figure it out
[16:21] <geek> pumpkin__: open up a console, use the command 'top'
[16:22] <pumpkin__> did it
[16:22] <pumpkin__> what do you i look for on the konsole
[16:22] <geek> pumpkin__: see what has the highest amount in the mem column?
[16:23] <pumpkin__> yes
[16:23] <pumpkin__> strigi deamon
[16:24] <pumpkin__> also the ksysguard
[16:24] <geek> pumpkin__: how much?
[16:25] <pumpkin__> strigi 7.9 ksysguard 3.2
[16:27] <rony> ciao
[16:28] <pumpkin__> I have go to, please send a private message
[16:34] <AnthonyT1220> I need some help.
[16:34] <AnthonyT1220> I have firefox on my Ubuntu system (I am new with this)
[16:34] <AnthonyT1220> and when I go to watch flash anything it does not load straight out, it has to be loaded by clicking on a gray play button
[16:35] <AnthonyT1220> how do i get rid of this?
[16:39] <yuruichi> hola
[16:39] <yuruichi> como estan?
[16:40] <jussi01> !es
[16:44] <yuruichi> ¿?
[16:46] <Supavisah> Hello, if I get the Kubuntu 8.1 Beta Live CD and install it on my second hard drive intending to dual disk dual boot will I need to toss around like I did with Fedora?
[16:56] <unitypunk> hmm
[16:59] <unitypunk> mann
[16:59] <unitypunk> whats with this wifi..
[17:03] <ray__> HI
[17:04] <ray__> Hi
[17:05] <ray__> bye
[17:06] <max_> hello
[17:13] <Supavisah> anyone?
[17:30] <aditya_> how to install wireless network driver in ubuntu in compaq presario v6425tu?
[17:39] <scarlet> heya
[17:56] <jmod> OK i need some help I have a Geforce go 7600 but how do I get it to work with kubuntu
[17:57] <Supavisah> Hello, if I get the Kubuntu 8.1 Beta Live CD and install it on my second hard drive intending to dual disk dual boot will I need to mess around like I did with Fedora?
[17:59] <jmod> I have EnvyNG but if I install the driver I get a scrambeld up screen can anyone help?
[18:00] <jmod> I running it on a laptop HP Pavilion dv9230us
[18:00] <Supavisah> jmod, channels been dead fo ages :P
[18:01] <jmod> what do you mean? this channel?
[18:01] <Supavisah> Yeah, well like I've been in here for a few hours :P not much action going on - but stick around see a reply.
[18:02] <jmod> so why are there so many people on here
[18:06] <Supavisah> Don't look at me.
[18:09] <jussi01> !weekend
[18:09] <pulaski> Hi all, I havie two machines, a desktop running kubuntu hardy heron 8.04 and an older machine I've set up to use as a file server that runs kubuntu server 8.04.  I can move between them ok using ssh but I would like to install NFS to easier and faster access.  Looking at my Adept Manager it appears I need the nfs-common package (which includes libnfsismap2) on both.  On the server I may also need nfs-kernel-server and nfsboot.
[18:09] <pulaski> Can anyone suggest any other packages or offer any helpful comments?
[18:09] <Supavisah> jussi01, never knew that :P
[18:10] <jussi01> !nfs | pulaski
[18:10] <jussi01> Supavisah: you would be suprised on how many people forget that ;)
[18:11] <Supavisah> Oh, well that's good I'm not crusified then - I might add paid developers? I thought Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Linux's are meant to be open source, and free?
[18:11] <pulaski> ubottu: Thanks I will
[18:11] <jussi01> ubottu: is a bot
[18:11] <jussi01> !canonical
[18:12] <pulaski> ubottu: you read my mind
[18:12] <jussi01> Supavisah: ^^
[18:12] <Supavisah> someone slap ubottu xD
[18:13] <glade88> hi.. I recently had multiple X crashes with Kubuntu Intrepid, X kept restarting until I did a hard reboot
[18:13] <jussi01> glade88: intrepid support is in #ubuntu+1 thanks :)
[18:13] <glade88> ok :)
[18:15] <stefanf> !ldap
[18:23] <lanoxx> hi, in the kubuntu start menu i only see system settings, how do i get to the real controll center?
[18:26] <MrKennie> lanoxx: K-> Run Command and type kcontrol
[18:27] <lanoxx> MrKennie, ah thx
[18:27] <lanoxx> why is there no short cut to this in the menu?
[18:27] <ldp> I'm Back
[18:28] <jussi01> lanoxx: because kubuntu uses system settings, not kcontrol..
[18:28] <MrKennie> I guess system settings is meant to be a replacement
[18:28] <lanoxx> and having two controll centers, one called system settings is really confusing
[18:28] <lanoxx> jussio1, system settings has only about halve of the settings of kcontrol
[18:28] <jussi01> lanoxx: in intrepid, there is no kcontrol - its an interim thing
[18:29] <lanoxx> hmm, bad
[18:29] <lanoxx> for example in system settings there is no way to controll power save settings
[18:29] <lanoxx> but in kcontrol there is
[18:35] <lanoxx> jussi01, are you a developer
[18:35] <jussi01> lanoxx: no, I help out where I can, but I am not a coder.
[18:36] <lanoxx> hmm, any suggestion where i should post issues like this? like that there is no real power saving settings in system settings? or is it going to be betting in ibex
[18:38] <jussi01> lanoxx: I thought there were, but anyway (I assume youve looked under advanced) but you are welcome to file a bug.
[18:38] <jussi01> !bug | lanoxx
[18:39] <lanoxx> jussio1, ok thx
[18:39] <lanoxx> :)
[18:49] <lerneaen_hydra> I just got an error when applying updates via apt, now dpkg -l reports; "dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 1933 package `libgcrypt11': `Depends' field, invalid package name `" is this something anyone else is experiencing? or does anyone have any idea?
[18:52] <tntat> Hi all, how do i unzip a tar.gz file?
[18:52] <LjL> tntat: tar xf filename
[18:52] <LjL> or use ark
[18:52] <LjL> !ark
[18:52] <LjL> you should
[18:52] <tntat> ok thanks
[18:52] <LjL> !zip
[18:52] <LjL> !-file-roller
[18:52] <LjL> !ark is <alias> zip
[19:10] <sorush20> !xps
[19:16] <sorush20> I can't print .xps in oKular
[19:16] <sorush20> any help?
[19:39] <gkffjcs> is there a way to touch ever file in a directory tree, with one command, and is there also an rsync like command that will copy one tree based onto another based on time stamp?
[19:45] <Walzmyn> what's the keyboard command to switch desktops?
[19:45] <Walzmyn> nevermind, just found it
[19:49] <mopped> Am I able to scale down the bottom bar? :)
[19:56] <dean> hello all
[19:56] <TheNamelessOne> hello
[19:57] <dean> you ok ?
[19:58] <TheNamelessOne> of course
[20:06] <aanishn> hi, I recently installed kubuntu 8.10 beta, my screen flickers every 10 sec or so and I get some lines on Xorg.0.log saying "EDID quirk: Detailed timings give sizes in cm."
[20:07] <aanishn> how do I go about to get this stuff fixed ?
[20:11] <sorush20> !mount
[20:11] <mopped> !synergy
[20:12] <mopped> !icecast
[20:12] <frloja> some body here
[20:12] <TheNamelessOne> yes
[20:12] <unitypunk__> bah
[20:12] <jmod> meh
[20:12] <frloja> hi
[20:12] <frloja> some body
[20:13] <jmod> hi
[20:13] <unitypunk__> sup
[20:13] <frloja> what's your name?
[20:13] <jmod> yo
[20:14] <jmod> My name is public info
[20:14] <jmod> lol
[20:15] <jmod> !xorg
[20:18] <jhutchins> What's the usenet newserader in kde?
[20:18] <hswales> good afternoon yall just intalled kubuntu today and im having an issue with flash cant seem to find a fix on the forums but i cant get flash to work in firefox
[20:25] <jussi01> sikki: install kubuntu-restricted-extras - you can then play most formats of music and video, java and flash.
[20:25] <sikki> i did install those already and its still not working
[20:26] <jussi01> sikki: have you restarted firefox since?
[20:26] <sikki> Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player.  < thats what youtube says when i try to view a video
[20:27] <jussi01> sikki: so have you?
[20:28] <jussi01> sikki: also ensure you have: edit -> preferences -> content -> enable javascript selected
[20:28] <sikki> I downloaded it but when i try to run the installer it tells me to give the path to firefox i use locate and all i can find is the addons path
[20:29] <sikki> it seems to be asking for the program path
[20:29] <sikki> java is enabled
[20:30] <jussi01> sikki: there should be no need to do that - the flashplugin-nonfree package does all that for you
[20:31] <sikki> hmmm something didnt work right then and ive installed both the kubuntu and ubuntu restricted packages
[20:31] <jussi01> sikki: you are certain you installed kubuntu-restricted-extras correctly?
[20:31] <jussi01> no, you should only install one.
[20:31] <sikki> i used adept
[20:33] <sikki> i just uninstalled ubuntu restricted and kubuntu restricted and reinstlaled kubuntu
[20:34] <sikki> and still no work
[20:34] <jussi01> sikki: try manually installing flashplugin-nonfree
[20:36] <sikki> thats where it asks for the path to firefox
[20:36] <sikki> and when i locate i cant get the path
[20:37] <vittujoo> I have wlassistant to connect
[20:37] <jussi01> sikki: no, I mean sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[20:37] <shakys> Hello
[20:37] <jugunas> was up
[20:37] <vittujoo> every time it asks for my password
[20:37] <shakys> Hello?
[20:37] <shakys> Hey!!
[20:37] <jugunas> i need kubuntus
[20:37] <shakys> Hello!??????
[20:38] <shakys> gay
[20:38] <sikki> flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version.
[20:38] <sikki> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[20:38] <vittujoo> is that required by linux or only a software specific issue
[20:38] <jussi01> shakys: this channel is for kubuntu support, how can we help you?
[20:39] <jussi01> vittujoo: please change your nick to something more family friendly :)
[20:40] <vittujoo> as soon as i get my answer
[20:40] <jussi01> vittujoo: no, change it now please.
[20:40] <jussi01> thanks :)
[20:40] <jussi01> Reptile: what password is it asking for?
[20:40] <Reptile> my root password
[20:40] <sikki> im gonna try something silly here juss but im gonna try a reboot maybe it will help doubtful but im willing to try anything atm
[20:41] <jussi01> sikki: good luck
[20:41] <jussi01> Reptile: your root password or your wallet password?
[20:42] <Reptile> i dont know, both are the same
[20:42] <Reptile> i think its the root
[20:42] <jussi01> Im not sure on that. :(
[20:43] <Reptile> well, not a big problem just a nuisance
[20:44] <sikki> knew that was pointless juss but i had to try
[20:44] <sikki> lol
[20:44] <Arlianin> Hello
[20:45] <Arlianin> can anyone please help me?
[20:46] <Supavisah> Arlianin, state your problem and wait.
[20:46] <Reptile> jussi01, it seems to require for kdesudo in the beginning to work proṕerly
[20:47] <Arlianin> I placed the music from the CD I had to Kaffeine but I can't hear it.
[20:47] <jussi01> ahh, curious
[20:47] <Reptile> what software do u use
[20:47] <jussi01> Reptile: this is something that you start every boot, right?
[20:47] <Reptile> yep
[20:47] <jussi01> Reptile: I use knetwork manager
[20:47] <jussi01> !bum
[20:50] <Reptile> i tried that first but it did not support all encryption possibilities
[20:50] <jussi01> Reptile: like which ones? it certainly supports wpa2...
[20:50] <jussi01> !wpa
[20:50] <Arlianin> Reptile: What can I do if my menu bar (the one ont he bottom) disappears?
[20:51] <Reptile> i am still a noob but what do u mean
[20:52] <jussi01> Arlianin: try doing alt+f2 and type kicker
[20:52] <Reptile> jussi01: i have to try ur software again
[20:52] <jussi01> !noob
[20:52] <Arlianin>  Jussi01: doesn't work :S
[20:52] <sikki> got flash working with seamonkey juss
[20:52] <Reptile> how come
[20:53] <jussi01> sikki: great :)
[20:53] <jussi01> !tab | sikki
[20:53] <sikki> yes i know about tab lol
[20:53] <jussi01> Reptile: they dont promote helpfulness, for one reason...
[20:53] <jussi01> sikki: you keep calling me juss...
[20:53] <Arlianin>  Jussi01: doesn't work :S
[20:54] <sikki> yeah i know im too lazy to hit tab sometimes lol
[20:54] <Reptile> that's true when refer to somebody else than ur self
[20:54] <sikki> jussi01: there you go :P thanks for the help today
[20:54] <jussi01> Arlianin: can you please do ctrl+esc and see if kicker is running ?
[20:54] <jussi01> sikki: no probs
[20:55] <Arlianin> jussi01: It's running :) though the menu bar (the one of the bottom) still doesn't appear :/
[20:56] <jussi01> Arlianin: sounds like you have accidentally removed it, or its hidden. to be honest, I cant quite remember how to add it again, but I think when you right click on the desktop or another panel there was an option?
[20:57] <Arlianin> jussi01: There's no option :/
[20:58] <jussi01> Arlianin: Im sorry, I dont have a kde3 box here atm, so cant really help. but hopefully someone wanders in that can help.
[21:06] <Supavisah> Does Kubuntu Live CD media support dual disk dual boot?
[21:09] <starenka> live cd is for booting & installing OS
[21:11] <Supavisah> starenka, I know but I recently TRIED to install Fedora on a second hard drive (secondary slave) and I needed to use this rescue CD and it just UGH caused so much problems and I never got to get it.
[21:13] <FFForever> is there a repo with latest kde4?
[21:13] <FFForever> (and is normally upgraded)
[21:14] <MrKennie> FFForever: check new on kubuntu.org, it is updated as and when there are new releases
[21:14] <MrKennie> news*
[21:15] <FFForever> there is no repo though that has it always updated so apt picks it up?
[21:15] <MrKennie> FFForever: the news article for 4.1.2 has instructions
[21:17] <FFForever> kool, also is there a ppa that has mostly updated packages i find it sad that vlc is only 0.8.3....
[21:20] <MrKennie> FFForever: there are several PPA repos. I do not know if one exists for vlc.
[21:22] <famille> comment installer google earth dans kubuntu ?
[21:25] <starenka> !fr | famille
[21:25] <starenka> famille: http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[21:32] <romeo> SALUT
[21:32] <romeo> HELLO
[21:34] <pacman__> hello
[21:38]  * Danu is back.
[21:44] <lamoureux> salut
[21:45] <sarir> jokey-kde closed unexpectedly
[21:45] <sarir> -.-
[21:56] <debora> hallo
[21:59] <debora> hello
[22:06] <manish> just checking if i am online
[22:06] <manish> please some body reply if they see me online
[22:06] <Nyad> hello. I removed the thingy on my taskbar which shows my multiple desktops, how do I get that back?
[22:06] <Nyad> manish: I see you
[22:07] <manish> thnaks
[22:07] <Peter_Lawliet> manish: i see you!
[22:07] <manish> it seems this is the only thing that is working online
[22:07] <manish> my browser mailing client and everything else thinks that i am off line
[22:07] <Arlianin> Reload this PageReload this PageReload this PageReload this Page
[22:08] <Arlianin> Hello!
[22:08] <manish> can you suggest what has gone wrong
[22:08] <manish> :)
[22:08] <manish> thats nice
[22:08] <manish> i have already tried that
[22:08] <W8TAH> where can i file bugs on intrepid beta ?
[22:08] <Arlianin> How can I make my menubar (on the bottom) viewable again? I think I accidentally erased it or made it invisible. :S
[22:09] <sarir> i want my plasmoid or how is it called back
[22:09] <sarir> it disappeared
[22:09] <sarir> and cant find it!!
[22:09] <W8TAH> sarir should be able to right click on teh plasma icon in the tray and re-activate it
[22:09] <Arlianin> How can I make my menubar (on the bottom) viewable again? I think I accidentally erased it or made it invisible. :S
[22:10] <sarir> W8TAH, where is the plasma icon? pls
[22:10] <manish> arlianin
[22:10] <manish> do you have menu bar at anyother place like at the top or something
[22:10] <Arlianin> nop
[22:10] <sarir> W8TAH, it already disappeared yesterday.. sorry
[22:10] <Arlianin> :/
[22:10] <manish> ok
[22:11] <manish> then i dont know sorry
[22:11] <W8TAH> sarir -- in the system tray lower right of your screen -- on mine its the first icon on the left - -looks like a couple windows - and you need to left click on it to get the plasma dashboard - -
[22:11] <manish> can some body tell me why every thing except IRC is not working online on my computer
[22:11] <sarir> W8TAH, :-)
[22:11] <manish> i have reliance data card and have connected then through it
[22:11] <W8TAH> sarir you can also click on the almond lookin thing in the upper right corner
[22:12] <W8TAH> sarir: choose add widgets
[22:12] <manish> only IRC is workin and nothing elase
[22:12] <manish> else*
[22:12] <sarir> W8TAH, with that i'm ok
[22:12] <W8TAH> cool
[22:12] <W8TAH> have fun
[22:12] <manish> W8TAH can u help me too please
[22:14] <sarir> W8TAH, hm then i dont remember the name of the widget.... that transparent one showing the files etc
[22:14] <sarir> -.-
[22:14] <sarir> how is it called??
[22:14] <manish> somebody please tell me why anythin except IRC and KOPETE is not showing online
[22:15] <sarir> manish, beta?
[22:15] <manish> sorry??
[22:15] <manish> sarir
[22:15] <manish> what do u mean
[22:15] <sarir> kidding nothing
[22:15] <manish> u an indian??
[22:15] <manish> right??
[22:15] <sarir> nope finnish
[22:15] <sarir> lol
[22:16] <manish> ok because beta is also a word in indian (hindi) that s y i thought
[22:16] <Arlianin> How can I make my menubar (on the bottom) viewable again? I think I accidentally erased it or made it invisible. :S
[22:16] <manish> any ways can you help me with this stuff
[22:16] <sarir> dont have a clue ..
[22:17] <manish> i mean nothing except IRC and KOPETE is working online
[22:17] <sarir> manish, me??? i am just a new user of linux ubuntu :-/
[22:17] <sarir> trying now kubuntu
[22:17] <manish> not my browser ok
[22:17] <manish> me too
[22:17] <sarir> which brower you are looking at manish ?
[22:17] <sarir> browser*
[22:18] <Arlianin> How can I make my menubar (on the bottom) viewable again? I think I accidentally erased it or made it invisible. :S
[22:20] <manish>  i
[22:20] <manish> konqueror
[22:21] <manish> y does that matter
[22:21] <W8TAH> where can i file bugs on intrepid beta ?
[22:24] <manish> SOS Please help
[22:24] <manish> can not access net on anything except IRC and Kopete
[22:24] <W8TAH> manish --
[22:24] <manish> no browser no mailing clien
[22:25] <W8TAH> open a terminal window
[22:25] <manish> yes W8TAH
[22:25] <W8TAH> type ping www.google.com
[22:25] <manish> ya
[22:25] <W8TAH> are you getting responses
[22:25] <manish> where
[22:25] <manish> in terminal??
[22:25] <W8TAH> yes
[22:26] <Arlianin> hey
[22:26] <manish> ys there is something coming up
[22:26] <Arlianin> W8TAH: Can you please help me?
[22:26] <Arlianin> !help
[22:26] <W8TAH> hit ctrl-c
[22:26] <paolo> hi. how can i remove the bell sounds from konsole, from now to the eternity ?
[22:26] <W8TAH> arlianin -- i can try -- whats up?
[22:26] <manish> doen
[22:26] <manish> done
[22:26] <W8TAH> copy one of the response lines here
[22:26] <Arlianin> W8TAH: My meny bar on the bottom disappeared.
[22:26] <manish> now what do i do
[22:27] <Arlianin> W8TAH: How can I make it appear again?
[22:27] <W8TAH> Arlianin: i dont know how to solve that one
[22:27] <W8TAH> manish -- copy one of the response lines here so i can see it
[22:27] <bloodwing> how do i get my sound to work?
[22:27] <manish> 64 bytes from tc-in-f104.google.com (209.85.175.104): icmp_seq=43 ttl=237 time=638 ms
[22:27] <W8TAH> manish: ok - good -- you have a valid network connection
[22:27] <W8TAH> now
[22:27] <manish> every line is the same
[22:27] <W8TAH> which browser are you using?
[22:27] <bloodwing> how do i get my sound to work?
[22:27] <manish> konqueror
[22:27] <W8TAH> bloodwing: start off by asking once and waiting patiently
[22:28] <manish> and kmail as mailing client
[22:28] <bloodwing> im sorry.
[22:28] <W8TAH> manish: ok - -first things first - -hold off on kmail for now
[22:28] <W8TAH> lets get browsing working
[22:28] <manish> ya
[22:28] <manish> ok
[22:28] <W8TAH> manish - do you have firefox installed?
[22:28] <JamesArthur> is there a NOT BUGGY 64bit version of Stallman Linux around? i'm tired of things like making its' /tmp read only and crashing its' own Xserver
[22:28] <manish> no
[22:28] <manish> i would like to tell you something
[22:28] <W8TAH> ok
[22:29] <JamesArthur> Sysinfo for 'ubuntu': Linux 2.6.24-19-generic running KDE 3.5.9, CPU: AMDAthlon64X2DualCore5400+ at 3013 MHz (6027 bogomips), , RAM: 1064/7995MB, 132 proc's, 23.12min up
[22:29] <manish> my konqueror works when i access my net on wifi or lan in the college
[22:29] <W8TAH> good
[22:29] <W8TAH> then what is the problem?
[22:29] <manish> but when i am using my reliance data card (usb modem) i am facing this problem
[22:30] <W8TAH> manish - i have no clue at all
[22:30] <W8TAH> ive never heard of or seen one of those
[22:30] <manish> ok for mailing client
[22:30] <manish> ??
[22:30] <manish> any suggestions
[22:30] <W8TAH> its probably a related problem - -and no, no idea at all
[22:30] <sarir> jockey closes as well W8TAH
[22:30] <manish> ok how do i install firefox from the terminal
[22:30] <manish> what is the command
[22:30] <W8TAH> sudo apt-get install firefox
[22:30] <sarir> because of nvidia -.-
[22:30] <manish> no that does not work
[22:31] <W8TAH> it almost sounds like your system is firewalled some how
[22:31] <manish> just for this type of connection??
[22:31] <W8TAH> saarir ????
[22:31] <manish> is it possible
[22:31] <W8TAH> yes - its def possible - it might not be on your end
[22:31] <manish> and when i typed sudo apt-get install firefox
[22:32] <W8TAH> what did you get?
[22:32] <manish> the result was "Couldn't find package firefox
[22:32] <W8TAH> ohh
[22:32] <W8TAH> hold on
[22:32] <manish> k
[22:32] <sarir> W8TAH, yes jockey-kde has closed when i was trying to enable nvidia
[22:32] <W8TAH> no clue
[22:32] <sarir> manish, bad bad
[22:32] <W8TAH> i dont use nvidia
[22:32] <sarir> W8TAH, -.-
[22:32] <sarir> arg
[22:32] <manish> what happened sarir
[22:33] <sarir> manish, nothing serious yet
[22:33] <sarir> i will just wait
[22:33] <manish> k
[22:33] <manish> thanks
[22:33] <W8TAH> manish try sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0
[22:33] <mixed1234> wireless--anyone knows if i should configure eth1 or wi-fi on "network settings"???
[22:33] <glade88> which binary package should be dolphin related to? dolphin itself or kdebase ?
[22:33] <W8TAH> sarir: im sorry -- i dont know how to help you on that problem
[22:33] <manish> mixed
[22:34] <sarir> W8TAH, jep i already reported the bug
[22:34] <sarir> but i was just hoping ... W8TAH
[22:34] <manish> same reply
[22:34] <W8TAH> mixed1234: wireless is usually wl0 or something similar i think
[22:35] <bloodwing> just asking again... my sound is not working, how do i fix, if your not busy..
[22:35] <W8TAH> bloodwing: im sorry -- i really dont know -- i just installed 8.10beta yesterday myself
[22:35] <mixed1234> W8TAH in "nework settings" I have 2 adapters, "eth1" and "wi-fi"
[22:36] <W8TAH> bloodwing: general things to check would be open kmix and make sure things are unmuted and volumed up
[22:36] <W8TAH> mixed1234: wifi
[22:36] <bloodwing> i have
[22:36] <W8TAH> !sound
[22:36] <manish> do a right click on your network manager and click on the wireless network that you see
[22:36] <manish> enter thekey and you are through
[22:36] <manish> that s no problem W8TAH
[22:36] <manish> thanks for your help
[22:36] <W8TAH> try that bloodwing
[22:36] <W8TAH> manish: np
[22:36] <bloodwing> what?
[22:36] <bloodwing> that link?
[22:36] <W8TAH> did you see ubottu mesage above
[22:36] <manish> mixed: do you see any woreless network in your network manager
[22:38] <mixed1234> ok i enabled "wifi0" and unpicked "eth1", looks like I am at least seeing my network and eth1 was enabled, dont have an IP though
[22:38] <manish> can some body tell me how do i install firefox from terminal
[22:38] <glade88> sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0
[22:38] <manish> no it does not work
[22:38] <glade88> o.O
[22:39] <W8TAH> manish: what response do you get?
[22:39] <glade88> you have repos enabled?
[22:39] <manish> Could't find firefox-0.0
[22:39] <manish> Could't find firefox-3.0
[22:39] <glade88> goto adept manager->software sources
[22:39] <glade88> make sure you have all repos ticked, all third party sources ticked
[22:39] <manish> ya will check that if that is working
[22:39] <manish> that all is ok
[22:40] <glade88> do sudo apt-get update
[22:40] <glade88> and try again
[22:40] <manish> some of my apps are working online others are not
[22:40] <manish> like my browser and mailing client ar enot worling
[22:40] <manish> when i connect neyt usin reliance net connect
[22:40] <glade88> what browser? konqueror? what problem do you face?
[22:40] <manish> sudo apt-get update is working
[22:41] <manish> ya konqueror
[22:41] <glade88> manish: have you set up any network proxy?
[22:41] <manish> and kmail
[22:41] <manish> no
[22:41] <manish> not intentionally
[22:41] <glade88> hm. strange. what did sudo apt-get update reply?
[22:42] <manish> ya i would like to tell u that every thing works fine when i connect through lan or wifi
[22:42] <sarir> W8TAH, it was the folder viewer! i finally found it among the widgets :-/
[22:42] <manish> ya its updating
[22:42] <manish> sudo apt-get update
[22:42] <glade88> manish.. when its done, try installing firefox again.. though I still think that your repos aren't ticked
[22:42] <glade88> can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file ?
[22:42] <glade88> !pastebin
[22:44] <manish> and if that is so why is my browser and mailin client not working
[22:44] <manish> ya just a moment
[22:45] <administrator_> hello everyone im having a problem with kb3 copy software, i need to copy audio mp3s and it wont let me what is hte best way to resolve this???
[22:45] <sarir> i made also some mistakes with adept.... regarding software sources ...
[22:45] <glade88> mistakes?
[22:45] <sarir> is there any command to see if everything is ok?
[22:45] <manish> but i can not open paste cin
[22:45] <manish> bin
[22:45] <manish> my browser is not working
[22:45] <glade88> manish: ?
[22:45] <sarir> yes now i cannot install anything
[22:45] <sarir> bah
[22:45] <glade88> sarir: what error do you get?
[22:45] <manish> ya
[22:46] <manish> i can not open paste bin
[22:46] <manish> my browser is not working
[22:46] <sarir> let me see again
[22:46] <manish> should i paste the 6 lines here
[22:46] <glade88> at the main channel, no
[22:46] <glade88>  /msg it to me
[22:46] <dustman_> manish: man apt-get
[22:46] <manish> how??
[22:47] <sarir> oh now it seems to work ..... it is downloading packages
[22:47] <glade88> double click on my name and paste into the PM window
[22:47] <manish> sorry this i should write in the terminal"man pat-get
[22:47] <glade88> sarir: cool
[22:47] <manish> man pat-get
[22:47] <sarir> glade88, but i am not sure yet
[22:48] <administrator_> hi having problems with copying mp3s on kb3 what is the best way around this as i need to get mp3s copied asap
[22:49] <mixed1234> anybody knows if "network manager" supports 64 bit 10 hex digits WEP Level???
[22:49] <mixed1234> anybody knows if "network manager" supports 64 bit 10 hex digits Wireless Encryption Level?
[22:51] <sarir> but in adept what should i do to add or remove something in adept?
[22:51] <sarir> hm
[22:51] <sarir> i'm upgrading again
[22:52] <bloodwing> sorry about this but, i still can not get my sound to work..
[22:52] <bloodwing> can someone plz help me with this?
[22:53] <administrator_> does nay1 no any software which will let me convert from mp3 to wave format
[22:53] <bloodwing> sorry about this but, i still can not get my sound to work..
[22:54] <bloodwing> idk any
[22:55] <sarir> You may now exit the program or go back to installing and removing packages. say adept .. why?
[22:55] <sarir> says*
[22:57] <bloodwing> so... can no one help me with my sound m
[22:57] <bloodwing> *problem
[22:58] <bloodwing> "leaving"
[22:58] <sarir> bloodwing, kmix?
[22:58] <bloodwing> yes i use
[22:58] <bloodwing> and no it is not mute
[22:58] <sarir> and what happened... ( i am just a new user)
[22:58] <bloodwing> well, atleast i think i use kmix, i don't have anything else...
[22:58] <bloodwing> well
[22:58] <bloodwing> my sound does not work
[22:59] <sarir> yes you must add something..
[22:59] <bloodwing> ok..
[22:59] <bloodwing> sudo apt-get install  ...
[22:59] <bloodwing> sudo apt-get install  ...?
[22:59] <sarir> bloodwing, dont you already have the icon of sounds?
[23:00] <bloodwing> no... should i...
[23:00] <sarir> bloodboy, yes
[23:00] <sarir> O_O
[23:00] <sarir> in the lower panel
[23:00] <W8TAH> bloodwing: in teh system tray on teh lower right - - there is no speaker icon?
[23:00] <bloodwing> oh,
[23:00] <bloodwing> yes
[23:00] <bloodwing> i thught you meant desktop.. mybad
[23:00] <sarir> so click there
[23:00] <sarir> show mixer
[23:00] <W8TAH> bloodwing: have you seen the entire mixer app or just the volume control
[23:00] <bloodwing> ok
[23:00] <sarir> and add whatever you need
[23:00] <bloodwing> entire thing
[23:00] <bloodwing> but,
[23:00] <sarir> jep betted
[23:00] <W8TAH> all sliders all the way up?
[23:01] <bloodwing> i dont know what the heck its saying
[23:01] <W8TAH> and all unmuted?
[23:01] <bloodwing> what do i do from here?
[23:01] <bloodwing> yeah
[23:01] <bloodwing> atleast.
[23:01] <chairman> how do you make the bottom tray black on KDE4?
[23:01] <W8TAH> ok one sec
[23:01] <bloodwing> if 100 is unmuted
[23:01] <W8TAH> no
[23:01] <sarir> bloodwing, click show the window of mixer
[23:01] <sarir> or what is it in your language
[23:02] <bloodwing> output?
[23:02] <bloodwing> the first tab?
[23:02] <sarir> bloodwing, the third
[23:02] <sarir> i have it in italian
[23:02] <sarir> :-/
[23:02] <bloodwing> ok, thats "switches"
[23:02] <bloodwing> im there...
[23:02] <sarir> then click mixer
[23:03] <bloodwing> ...?
[23:03] <W8TAH> bloodwing - what are the tabs lables?
[23:03] <sarir> where are you now
[23:03] <bloodwing> 1st, output, 2nd input, 3rd switches
[23:03] <bloodwing> im in switches
[23:03] <W8TAH> click on output
[23:04] <bloodwing> ok
[23:04] <W8TAH> you should see a mixer layout
[23:04] <W8TAH> with a number of channels
[23:04] <bloodwing> of a bunch of vertical sections.. yeah
[23:04] <W8TAH> each mixer channel will be composed of an icon a checkbox and a slider, right?
[23:04] <sarir> jep add all of them the you can do it better bloodwing
[23:04] <W8TAH> with text lables near the bottom
[23:04] <bloodwing> yeah
[23:05] <W8TAH> ok
[23:05] <sarir> :-)
[23:05] <W8TAH> slide all the sliders to the top
[23:05] <W8TAH> and make sure all the checkboxes are cleared
[23:05] <bloodwing> they are
[23:05] <bloodwing> thay all are
[23:05] <W8TAH> hummmmm
[23:05] <bloodwing> my bar at very left is at top, but its only at nine?9
[23:06] <W8TAH> did you check to make sure you sound system is enabled - per ubuttous message?
[23:06] <bloodwing> what about the horizantal bar at bottom that says "VIA 8235"
[23:06] <bloodwing> how do i make sure sound system is enables
[23:07] <bloodwing> how do i make sure sound system is enabled
[23:07] <W8TAH> !sound
[23:07] <bloodwing> i went to both of those sited
[23:07] <bloodwing> did not help
[23:07] <W8TAH> bloodwing: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked.
[23:07] <sarir> oh yes i forgot it :-/
[23:07] <sarir> !jockey
[23:08] <W8TAH> bloodwing: not to be insulting -- but are you sure your speakers work? are plugged in, turned on etc?
[23:08] <bloodwing> yes they do and are
[23:08] <W8TAH> ok
[23:08] <bloodwing> i checked on windows
[23:08] <dustman> W8TAH: for me sounds stops working once in awhile, noticably aafter waking system from suspend mode
[23:09] <W8TAH> dustman: im no expert
[23:09] <bloodwing> im still trying to do the system setting thing..
[23:09] <W8TAH> i never ever suspend systems -- so all the acip stuff -- i dont know anything about
[23:09] <dustman> W8TAH: just saying not everything in that faq
[23:10] <W8TAH> i still dont know anything about it -- im sorry
[23:10] <sarir> W8TAH, which is suppost to be the best movie player here now?
[23:10] <sarir> supposed*
[23:10] <W8TAH> im a fan of mplayer / gmplayer
[23:11] <W8TAH> but VLC also works well as does kaffeine
[23:11] <sarir> W8TAH, gmplayer?
[23:11] <sarir> no vlc
[23:11] <W8TAH> gmplayer is the gnome frontend to mplayer
[23:11] <W8TAH> works quite nicely
[23:11] <sarir> ok
[23:12] <sarir> sudo apt-get install gmplayer?
[23:12] <W8TAH> worth a try - -you will also need to do some digging in the wiki on restricted formats
[23:12] <W8TAH> i cant remember the command line to install it
[23:12] <sarir> no
[23:13] <dustman> sarir: they are many
[23:13] <dustman> all about choice and preference
[23:13] <sarir> W8TAH, can you please help me... i can install whatever just to see if it's everything ok with the shell?
[23:13] <sarir> dustman, yes....
[23:13] <W8TAH> sarir: try this
[23:13] <W8TAH> sudo apt-get install vim
[23:13] <sarir> W8TAH, i am not good at all with commands
[23:14] <sarir> yes it works
[23:14] <sarir> great
[23:14] <sarir> thanks W8TAH
[23:14] <W8TAH> sarir: im not as good as i should be but they will help you greatly as you progress in using linux
[23:14] <W8TAH> np
[23:14] <dustman> sarir: sudo apt-get foo
[23:14] <sarir> W8TAH, i started during may using ubuntu
[23:14] <sarir> :-/
[23:15] <W8TAH> good -- keep at it
[23:15] <sarir> dustman, :-)
[23:15] <W8TAH> it gets better
[23:15] <alba6> anyone using hardy here?
[23:15] <sarir> W8TAH, i have everything now
[23:15] <bloodwing> i dont think it will help, but, i forgot to mention that no matter what, if my speakers are turned on while on kubuntu, i hear static.. but it, my speakers, work fine on windows.
[23:15] <sarir> hardy under vista
[23:15] <sarir> and kubuntu in dual boot
[23:16] <alba6> im seriously thinkin about ditching ubuntu
[23:17] <alba6> after 6 years
[23:17] <sarir> dustman, what was that foo, a joke?
[23:17] <alba6> hardy is a joke
[23:18] <sarir> vim -.-
[23:18] <alba6> tried everything to get it to work
[23:21] <vin> salut
[23:22] <dustman> sarir:
[23:22] <sarir> dustman,
[23:22] <dustman> usually you substitute foo with whatever you need
[23:22] <dustman> or want
[23:23] <sarir> oh so.. i dont have a clue about it
[23:23] <sarir> but i was not able to install it in any case dustman
[23:24] <sarir> aaaaaaaah sorry dustman
[23:24] <sarir> i just now realize what you mean
[23:24] <sarir> lol
[23:24] <vitopoma> ciaoooo
[23:24] <vitopoma> hello
[23:24] <vitopoma> can i have some icons in the desktop in kubuntu intrepid?
[23:25] <sarir> chiedi e ti sará dato
[23:25] <vitopoma> ciao sarir
[23:25] <sarir> hi vitopoma
[23:25] <vitopoma> ho appeta installato kubuntu intrepid
[23:25] <chfwiggum> !it
[23:25] <sarir> vitopoma, speak english
[23:26] <vitopoma> i want to know
[23:26] <vitopoma> if i can have some icon in the desktop
[23:26] <sarir> vitopoma, #ubuntu-it+1 as well
[23:26] <vitopoma> in kubuntu
[23:27] <sarir> vitopoma, join that channel
[23:27] <vitopoma> ciaoo
[23:27] <sarir> bye
[23:27] <vitopoma> ho appena installato ubuntu intrepid
[23:27] <sarir> -.-
[23:27] <vitopoma> bellissima grafica, ma mi sento un po spiazzato dal nuovo kde
[23:28] <vitopoma> volevo sapere
[23:28] <jussi01> vitopoma: only english in here please, and kde4 support is in #kubuntu-kde4
[23:28] <sarir> vitopoma, join the channel #ubuntu-it+1
[23:30] <sarir> jussi01, why you didnt like us?
[23:31] <jussi01> sarir: I didnt know it existed, so wanted to check it out. I dont speak italian
[23:31] <sarir> jussi01, are you from finland?
[23:31] <sarir> jussi01, sure it exists
[23:32] <jussi01> sarir: yes, Im from finland. join me in #kubuntu-offtopic for more chatter
[23:32] <sarir> yes sorry
[23:40] <dustman> how to extract audio info from dmesg?
[23:40] <jussi01> dustman: perhaps: dmesg | grep audio
[23:40] <dustman> I tried grepping for 'audio' 'sound' 'azalia' with no results
[23:40] <jussi01> heh
[23:41] <dustman> nothing relevant for ATI
[23:42] <dustman> strange thing it works, so I'm sure it should be there
[23:59] <CoJaBo-Eee> Anyone have any suggestions on what I can use to cut and burn an MPEG to DVD, preferably without encoding (and is there a way to make sure the file actually is DVD ready)?