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Myrtti*SNUGGLEHUGGLE*01:07
LjLPriceChild, you don't happen to have a clue what to do next when your rt2500 card does appear to work, but you can't get anything to ping anything else? :|01:11
PriceChildLjL: "appear to work"?01:19
LjLPriceChild: well, this time the interface is there in ifconfig01:19
LjLanyway, am now checking dmesg, and have a lot of "ip_conntrack: table full, dropping packet." if that means anything01:20
PriceChildnveer heard of it01:20
LjLi mean, not only does it show up in ifconfig, but the eeepc sees the network too01:23
LjLgah... so nevermind anyway, the problem was on the eeepc side. it still thought it had a route to a wired connection (even though it did say "disabled", but "route" begged to differ), so it tried to reach 192.168 from there01:34
PriceChildwoo :)02:01
ubottuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, aubade said: !greatestfear is <reply> whale sharks02:51
PriceChildubottu doesn't fear anything03:01
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)03:01
Flannelwhy are whale sharks scary?03:01
PriceChildi'm desperately trying to think of that office quote... jdong help me... "we would also have accepted women and...." ???03:01
Hobbseedogs?03:05
FlannelIts "Not afraid of anything, also would have accepted snakes"03:09
Flannelor at least, according to the internet.03:09
jdongPriceChild: also, I would've accepted snakes03:43
jdongack Flannel won.03:43
FlannelOnly through the power of the internet.  I claim no credit personally.03:43
Hobbseeheads up on the user 'connecting'04:14
Hobbseemibbit user, spamming and such04:14
Hobbseereal IP of  ppp-70-247-119-16.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net04:14
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ubottuSlart called the ops in #ubuntu (hero)09:17
* elkbuntu refrains from joking about that one09:18
GaryI've asked hero to not repeat the "hi's" (in pm)09:25
jussi01mrgh... out too late last night...09:26
Garyhangover?09:26
jussi01yep09:26
elkbuntuGary, i was kinda hoping he'd be 'an hero' and.. well...09:26
elkbuntuterminate himself09:27
* Gary shouts "HEY JUSSI01"09:27
elkbuntuby which i mean, his connection09:27
* jussi01 takes a bite out of Gary09:28
Garynom nom nom09:28
elkbuntubad pizza hut. when i say 'no onion' i kind of mean 'none' not 'less'09:31
GaryI had pizza last night, and now feel really rubbish09:32
stdinelkbuntu: pizza hut? you mean "pasta hut" :p09:33
elkbuntustdin, the only pasta it sells here is lasagna.09:33
elkbuntuthe rest is american-style ribs09:33
stdinit getting re-branded here to pasta hut, because it's "healthier"09:35
elkbuntuyou kid09:35
elkbuntu[citation needed]09:35
stdinhttp://www.pastahut.co.uk/Home09:35
elkbuntuthat would actually be ok. i'd love to be able to order pasta and not have it arrive with 10 cloves of garlic in it09:36
elkbuntuso um, how to pizza lovers get pizza in the UK?09:36
stdinit still does pizzas, but the emphasis is now on the pasta09:37
stdinand we still have a pizza place on every corner (it seems)09:37
stdinand at least 4 leaflets for pizza places get pushed through my door every week. so we're not short of pizza09:38
elkbuntui live in an asian/middle-eastern dominated area. makes for unsatisfactory pizzas09:40
elkbuntuthere is one italian pizza joint close by, but they're epic fail09:41
stdinI have 2 pizza places within a mile radius, at least 2 chinese, 3 indian and one greek restaurant09:43
stdinmaybe I'm spoilt :p09:43
elkbuntui have about that, but i dont get heaps of junkmail09:44
Garystdin: great place to live!09:44
stdinand there's even a McDonalds down the road :p09:45
elkbuntuwho cares about that09:53
jussi01thats a minus IMHO09:57
elkbuntutrue09:57
stdinI worked at a McDonalds for a while, it's not *that* bad09:59
elkbuntuuntil you picture the people who are attracted to mcdonalds like flies to crap10:02
jussi01no, point is, Mcdonalds in your neighbourhood sucks. it creates a huge amounts of rubbish, crappy food and not a nice environment... IMHO...10:05
elkbuntuthey're half-maccas half coffeshop here in aus now10:23
Garyand barrys in their barry cars, driving like idiots10:23
elkbuntuso, at least there's an option other than sugar water, barely-dairy thickshakes and day-old percolated coffee.10:25
elkbuntupoor ljlzilla is trying to edumacate shirish13:16
ikonia?13:16
elkbuntu<LjLzilla> shirish: have you ever tried  looking at the topic, before chatting in a channel? ;)13:17
ikoniaah13:17
elkbuntushirish iirc is one of Hobbsee's favourites13:17
Hobbseeurgh.13:17
elkbuntuIdleOne, 'sup?13:17
IdleOnethe !ubuntu+1 triiger needs to be changed13:17
Hobbseei've been trying to ignore him in +1.13:17
IdleOneIntrepid Ibex is the code name for Ubuntu 8.10, due October 30th, 2008 - Warning lots of broken software between now and October 30th! - Use #ubuntu+1 for support, *NOT* #ubuntu13:17
ikoniaIdleOne: what's up13:18
jrib!-intrepid13:18
ubottuintrepid aliases: ibex, 8.10, interpid - added by Pici on 2008-02-21 01:19:06 - last edited by Pici on 2008-10-08 14:03:4913:18
jrib!intrepid13:18
ubottuIntrepid Ibex is the code name for Ubuntu 8.10, due October 30th, 2008 - Warning lots of broken software between now and October 30th! - Use #ubuntu+1 for support, *NOT* #ubuntu13:18
jrib!ubuntu+113:18
ubottuHardy Heron is the codename for the current release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS) You can get it now from http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu but please use !torrents13:18
ikoniaahh13:18
IdleOneguess it got over looked13:18
IdleOnethanks guys13:18
jribone should alias the other13:18
jribthanks IdleOne13:18
IdleOnenp13:18
jrib!ubuntu+1 is <alias> intrepid13:19
ubottuBut ubuntu+1 already means something else!13:19
elkbuntuaww how sweet, i get a new buntu for my birfday... well, the day before it.13:19
jribhmm, does the other way make more sense?13:19
jrib!ubuntu+113:20
ubottuHardy Heron is the codename for the current release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS) You can get it now from http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu but please use !torrents13:20
jrib...13:20
jrib!no, ubuntu+1 is <alias> intrepid13:20
ubottuYou are editing an alias. Please repeat the edit command within the next 10 seconds to confirm13:20
elkbuntuHobbsee, i suspect we'd be able to cope with both beta and release, since we only have to survive a day after release before the new calendar month hits13:20
jrib!no, ubuntu+1 is <alias> intrepid13:20
jrib!ubuntu+113:20
ubottuHardy Heron is the codename for the current release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS) You can get it now from http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu but please use !torrents13:20
jrib:/13:21
jrib!ubuntu+113:21
ubottuIntrepid Ibex is the code name for Ubuntu 8.10, due October 30th, 2008 - Warning lots of broken software between now and October 30th! - Use #ubuntu+1 for support, *NOT* #ubuntu13:21
Hobbseeelkbuntu: that's possible.  How well's it seeded now?13:22
elkbuntuHobbsee, dunno. and plus, we can throttle13:22
Hobbseeactually, there should be a RC next week, or the week after.13:22
Hobbseeso we can torrent that, with no problem, then the final.13:22
elkbuntuyeah13:22
Hobbseewas thinking there wasn't so much point seeding the beta now.13:22
elkbuntuwhich is a good point13:23
elkbuntubut it's something we should plan for13:23
Hobbseeindeed.13:24
Seeker`any plans for doing anything about the insane-ness in #u?13:42
Seeker`(for the release I mean)13:42
Hobbseeopen #ubuntu-release-party?13:42
elkbuntujust like we do every release, pinky.13:45
Hobbseego mad?13:45
Hobbseeremove people if they advertise non-official channels?13:46
elkbuntuwell, yes13:46
Hobbseeban fujisan to start with13:46
Hobbseeunless he's (blissfully) gone away now.13:46
elkbuntupretty much, minus the fujisan thing, since we'll know the second he's there, and he'll be sprayed with idiot-be-gone promptly13:53
elkbuntuhe shows up in #freenode every now and then wondering why staff all disappear and cannot handle his 'gimme cloak plzkthx' demands13:54
elkbuntuhe still thinks it's his ticket into everywhere he's been banned from13:55
Myrttieh. http://paste.ubuntu.com/56294/14:00
Hobbseewith idiot-be-gone.  I like that.  Does it come in a can?14:00
* Hobbsee can picture spraying it around or something14:00
Seeker`Hobbsee: I believe it is hammer shaped14:00
* Myrtti huggles wgrant 14:16
ubottuIn #ubuntu, kika said: ubottu: eclipse is a IDE to develop java apps and also c/c++ apps.15:24
LjL!equivalents15:44
ubottuA comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant15:44
LjL!no equivalents is <reply> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant - Try also joining #ubuntu-bots and asking BestBot15:45
ubottuI'll remember that LjL15:45
LjLmind? it's currently got quite a few apps that aren't even listed on those urls15:45
nickrudchange the name, there are no 'bests' ;)15:45
LjLnickrud, that was always the irony in it...15:46
nickrudmaybe BetterBot, since we're talking about apps better than win equivs :)15:46
nickrudah, irony. Point.15:47
LjLnickrud, when you ask it what the best whatever is, it replies that "the BESTEST whatever is ..."15:47
LjLand, i *am* aware that there is no such word as bestest15:47
LjLso, yes, irony.15:47
LjLironic also that supybot beats bestbot in the "best bot" category15:47
nickrudyes, with the reply it's obvious. I like that. Of course, since I've never played with the bot my opinion is palian15:47
LjLnickrud: and anyway you can also just ask it for a list of applications of some kind, with no "best" nonsense in the reply15:48
MyrttiLinus ♥ 17:40
Myrttihttp://torvalds-family.blogspot.com/2008/10/tracking-time-kids-spend-online.html17:40
ikonia#ubuntu is hard this evening17:40
Myrttisomeone should make a decent front end to that17:40
Myrttiyou need some backup?17:41
MyrttiI can do while I'm Skypeing17:41
ikoniaMyrtti: he's such a geek17:41
ikoniaMyrtti: I'm about to sign off for a while17:41
Myrttiok, I'll have a look17:41
ikonialots of user who don't want to work to fix17:41
ikoniahard work17:41
ikonia"how" "how" "how" 17:41
Myrttianyone particular?17:41
ikoniaor users who don't respond to a question17:41
ikoniaeveryone !17:41
ikoniawhat card are you using17:41
ikonia"I installed today"17:41
ikoniawhat card are you using17:41
ikonia"its really nice"17:42
ikoniawhat card are you using17:42
ikonia"I want to play videos but it's not working"17:42
jussi01awww... http://www.linux.com/feature/14999217:42
ikoniawow linux.com has had a real makeover17:42
Myrttiikonia: you're right17:51
Myrttiit's all full of loonies17:51
ikoniakill me now17:51
Myrtti@bansearch kartagis17:52
ubottuNo matches found for kartagis!n=sda@unaffiliated/kartagis in #ubuntu-ops17:52
ikonia@bansearch kartagis #ubuntu17:52
ubottuNo matches found for kartagis!n=sda@unaffiliated/kartagis in #ubuntu17:52
ikoniahe's not listening17:53
ikoniaeveryones like this tonight17:53
ikoniawhy are you compiling it from source17:53
ikonia"I like ubuntu"17:54
ikoniawhy are you compiling it from source17:54
ikonia"I want to compile this"17:54
ikoniawhy are you compiling it from source17:54
ikonia"I think postgres likes it"17:54
jussi01hehe17:54
* ikonia begs for devine intervention17:54
jussi01ikonia: Ill cheer you up with a funny story...17:55
ikoniaplease do 17:55
MyrttiOH FOR GODS SAKE17:55
jussi01Was in the pub last night, we sitting there having a pint then this happened:  http://jussi01.com/upload/uploads/20081011-195742-Fire%20in%20heinahattu.mp417:57
jussi01ikonia: dont try stream it, download it17:58
ikoniadoing so 17:58
Myrttiyou HAD A FIRE?!17:58
jussi01yeps17:59
jussi01in the pub...17:59
jussi01I should look on yle to see if it got reported...17:59
ikoniadanger !17:59
ikoniawhat does the user heyman mean when he says he's at the initramfs prompt ?18:00
ikoniabusybox ?18:00
jussi01Im guessing so...18:00
ikoniahe's making no-sense18:01
jussi01that seems to be a theme today...18:01
ikoniamassivlt18:02
ikoniamassivlt18:02
ikoniamassivly18:02
jussi01hehe18:02
ikoniacan you tell I'm getting flustered18:02
ikoniaa console with a prompt that says "initramfs" what the devil is that ?18:04
* jussi01 hands ikonia a vodka shot... calm down!!18:05
ikoniaI think I'm being taken for a ride 18:05
Seeker`ikonia: anywhere nice?18:09
ikoniahell18:10
Seeker`ah18:10
ompaulikonia, you don't have to solve the problem 18:17
ompaulthe odds are high you will see someone pop up within 5 mins with some other less stupid problem and therein lies the true meaning of the fact you should either do a full install or not18:18
ompaulnote - we just had someone talking about one porn site and not being able to view it in #ubuntu 18:52
ompaulso I call that trolling and pimping and not of the "pimp my ride" style18:53
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* ompaul does not understand anymore20:16
ompaulPriceChild, you about?20:17
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ompaul!nickspam | seanw :-P20:31
ubottuseanw :-P: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu, or other Ubuntu channels; it causes excessive scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  See also «/msg ubottu Guidelines»20:31
seanwhaha :P20:31
jussi01hehe20:31
seanwSowwy.20:31
ompaulGOTCHA!20:32
ompauljussi01, this is no laughing matter :-)20:32
ompaulheheh20:32
ompauldo I have to explain what I am to the outside world or will it just accept me for what I am - an irc operator? ;-)20:33
* ompaul rofl20:33
Flannelompaul: they'll *take* you as you are.  As for acceptance.....20:33
ompaulFlannel, fair point, and well made, (mutter mutter mutter mutter mutter)20:34
ompaulFlannel, and now in reply to you I play Mahler Symphony no 720:35
ompaulha!20:35
ubottuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, aubade said: !fight is <reply> Internet fight!20:38
Flannelwell, golly gee willickers20:42
ompaulLjL, pingology20:47
LjLpongometry20:47
ompaul!grub21:03
ubottugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto21:03
LjLnow that's an url that could be made shorter for sure...21:04
LjL!no grub is <reply> GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto21:05
ubottuI'll remember that LjL21:05
ompaulI think it got that long one to be very explicit21:05
LjLmaybe, but it says it already in the factoid anyway21:05
ompaulack21:05
ompaulbans in +121:47
ompaullist checked left mr farmer and very recent ones21:47
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)21:50
LjLinteresting... a mibbiter did that21:50
naliothbut won't do it again21:55
LjLsince there's no auto-kline for exploiters anymore, i suppose there's nothing against auto-ban from the floodbots?22:00
LjL!version22:20
ubottuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -rc » in a !shell22:20
LjLare we sure we want that changed from the lsb_release -a it used to give?22:20
LjL1) -rc doesn't give you the "Description", which, contrary to the "Version", gives things like 8.04.1 vs 8.0422:20
LjL(sorry, i mean "Release" not "Version")22:20
LjL2) it doesn't tell us whether the fellow might be cheating and using Debian or something22:21
LjL(or an ubuntu derivative more likely)22:21
tomawLjL: is it you that runs the floodbots?22:22
LjLtomaw: so it is22:23
tomawI am curious about the updating stuff22:23
LjLtomaw: well, i maintain them, i don't run them all on my machine (as you probably know)22:23
tomawnod, one runs on one of mine :p22:23
LjLtomaw: right22:23
LjLtomaw: well i just fixed a little bug that was demonstrated by that little mibbit idiot22:23
tomawwhat do they do, just wget (or similar) updated code and restart?22:24
LjLtomaw: better join -monitor22:24
LjL-ops-monitor that is22:24
tomawthat explains why I just created #ubuntu-monitor22:25
LjLheh sorry22:25
ompaultomaw, you can feel free to kill that channel ;-)22:26
* ompaul hides22:26
tomaw:)22:27
ompaulI really don't like that kind of thing in -ot ergo the "play along and remove"22:28
ompaulwith a do join again22:28
ompaulohh I give u22:29
ompaulup22:29
* ompaul just had two boxes with over 100 cds in each of them fall over22:29
* ompaul vows to make smaller stacks22:30
ikoniaHmmmm kahrytan's back online after the kline22:37
ikonianew ip22:37
LjLoh yeah, my /watch said that earlier22:37
LjLdidn't pay much attention to it22:37
ompaulikonia, how long ago was the kline?22:51
ikoniaerrr not sure22:51
ikoniajussi01: told me 22:51
ompaulack22:52
mneptokwow, he finally exhibited behavior worthy of a k: ?22:53
ikoniaaparantly so 22:53
mneptoki thought he was more adept at line-walking than that22:53
Seeker`mneptok: k-line walking?22:58
ompaulqueue johnny cash - walked the kline22:58
mneptokSeeker`: walking the accpetable behavior line22:59
ompaulmneptok, hahaha23:03
* ompaul buys kurt a beer and starts singing 80s rock songs23:03
naliothmneptok: this was not his first trip on the k-train23:08
Myrttididn't christel say about something about if he raises his head...?23:12
christelyup, he's gone again 23:14
christelmneptok: ah, well, line walking.. we took a leaf out of his book, you know, how only the harasee can deem whether theyre being harassed or not? and no third-party can possibly say either way?23:15
christelmneptok: well, my users and staff both felt really rather harassed and we dont have much tolerance for harassment23:15
LjLchristel: in which case (that is, if that were the "correct" way to determine whether something is harassment), then he'd be already in court with harassment charges, trust me.23:16
* LjL goes back to his corner.23:16
christelLjL: that was his explanation when i failed to see how you guys had harassed him 23:17
christel:)23:17
LjLchristel: i know, i know23:17
christel(otoh, all he did was show me logs in which he joined channels and accused people of harassing him, while kicking and screaming -- at no point did he actually show me anything where anyone had contacted *him* in any way or form)23:18
Seeker`but logs prove stuff!23:18
Seeker`if you have logs, you can prove anything!23:18
LjLchristel: well, i, on the other hand, have logs that could likely be intepret as indirect physical threats, but was always sane (or stupid) enough to believe that "could likely be interpreted" cannot be used as proof23:19
christelbased on how he included logs only of making a prat out of himself there is of course a chance he accidentally sent me only the stuff he meant to exclude ;)23:19
christelbut yeah, again, if you spot him evading again please do let any staffer know23:20
christel:)23:22
MyrttiCHARLIE LETS GO TO THE MAGIC MOUNTAIN!23:23
christelMAGIC MOUNTAIN!23:24
* christel goes sit with Myrtti 23:24
* jussi01 huggles christel and thankks her for once again sorting kah. out.. :)23:24
* christel hugs jussi01 23:24
mneptokchristel: welp, turnabout is fair play ...23:26
mneptoki have logs that prove i need to eat less Mexican food. wait ... those aren't really logs. but perhaps i've said too much ...23:27
* mneptok detaches and commutes23:27
christel;)23:27
ompaulmneptok, happy post commute read23:28
ompaulchristel, but you saw his logs therefore he is right .... 23:29
jussi01interesting... there is an #ubuntu-it+123:29
christelompaul: :P23:31
christelompaul: actually, i saw him join here and harass people :P23:31
ompaulchristel, hehe23:31
ompaulwell the thing is delusion is a terrible affliction, and disabusing people of their delusions is a useful place to be if you want to have useful networks :)23:32
ompaulto whit: you have exceeded the social norms for this channel, your contribution has been logged, and is unwanted, have a nice day elsewhere23:33
christelmmm23:34
ompaulthat gets a nod at least even if you don't agree with me :)23:35
ompaulplease don't disabuse me of that particular delusion 23:35
ompaulin an ideal network ops would only be needed to keep flood bots and ubottu-like bots working in case of accidents etc23:36
jussi01ompaul: such a network doesnt exist23:37
christelyeah23:37
ompauljussi01, ohh you just shattered my dreams ;-)23:37
jussi01and never will... there completely shattered23:37
* ompaul fains being mortally wounded23:38
jussi01hehe23:39
jussi01ompaul: go listen to some aslan and try feel a bit better :D23:39
ompauljussi01, now there is an idea23:40
jussi01:)23:40
ompaulright now ZZ top are playing that kind of sound23:40
* ompaul goes to seek aslan23:40
MyrttiSKYPE  ♥ ♥ ♥ 23:40
* Myrtti huggles everyone23:40
jussi01oh someone please turn the colors off already...23:41
Myrttijussi01: I LOVE YOU  ♥  23:41
ompaulahhhh 23:42
ompaulthe peace23:42
LjLoh23:42
LjLyou already did it23:42
ompaulI did23:43
ompaulLjL, I felt empowered23:43
ompaulhehe23:44
MyrttiI love you too ompaul ♥ 23:44
* ompaul grins at Myrtti 23:44
kebomix i have problem while compress file in ZIP format , it give me this Error "An error occurred while adding files to the archive." , any one help me with that23:56
Picikebomix: This is not a support channel.23:58
Picikebomix: #ubuntu is the support channel, asking your question in #ubuntu-irc, #ubuntu-ops and #ubuntu-devel is offtopic for those channels.23:59

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