| bryce | tjaalton: lrm-2.6.20 xorg bugs are wontfixing away ;-) | 03:57 |
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| tjaalton | bryce: dull and boring, dare I say ;) | 04:33 |
| wgrant | tjaalton: Been watching the discussion in #ubuntu-devel? | 04:39 |
| wgrant | The property issues have changed, but still exist. | 04:39 |
| wgrant | Something isn't 64-bit-safe. | 04:39 |
| wgrant | (or at least fails to work sanely on amd64, while it does on i386 on the same hardware, so it's probably 64-bit-unsafeness...) | 04:40 |
| tjaalton | wgrant: no, just got up and am on a train | 04:43 |
| wgrant | tjaalton: You're not allowed to sleep! Anyway, I'll be gone for about an hour in a few minutes. | 04:48 |
| wgrant | But it certainly seems to occur on amd64 and not i386. | 04:49 |
| wgrant | The symptoms of the issue have changed, but it seems to be the same thing. | 04:49 |
| tjaalton | ok, so the joystick-crashes and properties go together? | 04:53 |
| tjaalton | hmm, sounds like update-manager should make sure that input-all is installed in the system, or the server should depend on evdev | 04:56 |
| bryce | tjaalton: ~2200 -> ~2000 | 05:15 |
| tjaalton | whee | 05:15 |
| bryce | I finished up and unsubbed us from lrm-2.6.20 | 05:15 |
| tjaalton | great | 05:15 |
| tjaalton | btw, did ou notice that we now have nouveau? | 05:16 |
| bryce | I've also incompleted all the New bugs that didn't have something resembling an Xorg.0.log attached | 05:16 |
| bryce | ah, no I didn't. good to hear | 05:16 |
| tjaalton | ..which just happens to be useless | 05:16 |
| bryce | tjaalton: have you been seeing that there are people successfully using -radeonhd? | 05:16 |
| bryce | that surprised me, but hey | 05:16 |
| tjaalton | nope | 05:16 |
| bryce | mentioned in a number of -ati bug reports | 05:17 |
| tjaalton | that it wrks better than ati? | 05:17 |
| bryce | blah blah, -ati is busted, blank screen yada yada... works ok when I switch to -radeonhd | 05:17 |
| tjaalton | +o | 05:17 |
| bryce | er hey actually I did know about nouveau... I'd had slangasek sync it in a few weeks back. but does it work at all? | 05:18 |
| tjaalton | it was synced yesterday | 05:19 |
| tjaalton | won't build | 05:19 |
| tjaalton | requires newer libdrm and drm-modules | 05:19 |
| * bryce nods | 05:19 | |
| bryce | is it causing any breakages? | 05:20 |
| tjaalton | hardly, since there are no packages :) | 05:20 |
| bryce | heh true. | 05:21 |
| tjaalton | ok, I'll be offline the next 40h or so.. the ferry to estonia departs in 30min :) | 05:29 |
| bryce | cya tjaalton | 05:38 |
| bryce | tjaalton: yeah I've got monday off and am going to try to spend it all out in the wood shop | 05:39 |
| wgrant | Anybody have any ideas on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/267611/comments/53? | 12:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 267611 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics "[intrepid] cannot see touchpad tab in mouse configuration" [High,In progress] | 12:30 |
| wgrant | tjaalton: Can you please cherrypick db6e631d31d4ffd476ccd105f8adb8d8b4727b29 into our -synaptics soon? | 23:09 |
| Ng | hrm, did something change about input property stuff | 23:33 |
| Ng | my scroll enabling script isn't working anymore! ;) | 23:33 |
| Ng | Wheel Emulation:1 | 23:33 |
| Ng | Wheel Emulation Y Axis:4, 5 | 23:33 |
| Ng | but no scrolling seems to be happening | 23:33 |
| wgrant | Ng: Yes, we have large changes in that area. | 23:40 |
| wgrant | Hmmm. | 23:40 |
| wgrant | I would have thought that should be working. | 23:41 |
| wgrant | Which arch, and is that plain evdev? | 23:41 |
| Ng | i386 | 23:41 |
| wgrant | And it works fine for me. | 23:41 |
| wgrant | Have you rebooted since the new stuff appeared on Friday? | 23:41 |
| Ng | yeah i did an update early afternoon then did a battery drain test with a bootable CD | 23:42 |
| Ng | I assume it's an all-evdev setup, I don't have an xorg.conf so it's just using hal | 23:43 |
| wgrant | It's not a touchpad, I presumeE? | 23:43 |
| Ng | no, trackpoint | 23:43 |
| wgrant | Not a combined trackpoint/touchpad, like they often are? | 23:44 |
| Ng | I do have both, and the touchpad is usually on the same device, but I have that disabled in the BIOS | 23:44 |
| wgrant | -synaptics has a bug whereby it will partially break property setting, but if it's not on that device... | 23:45 |
| wgrant | So it just doesn't work at all? | 23:45 |
| wgrant | I've never used wheel emulation before, but setting Wheel Emulation to 1 and Wheel Emulation Button to 2 worked fine. | 23:45 |
| Ng | I think it thinks it's doing it - the mmb is obeying the wheelemulation timeout and when I try to scroll the mouse pointer doesn't move (which is correct) | 23:45 |
| Ng | hrm | 23:46 |
| Ng | (WW) Sony PLAYSTATION(R)3 Controller: Don't know how to use device | 23:47 |
| Ng | (II) UnloadModule: "evdev" | 23:47 |
| Ng | does that mean it just unloaded it for that device, or has it unloaded the module entirely?! | 23:47 |
| Ng | (I don't know how to get a list of currently loaded X modules) | 23:47 |
| jcristau | just for that device | 23:47 |
| Ng | ok | 23:48 |
| jcristau | grep _drv.so /proc/$(pidof X)/maps should work | 23:48 |
| wgrant | jcristau: Hi. Do you have any idea why libxi is spewing crap at the server like in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/267611/comments/53? Most of the code seems fairly similar to Get(Window)Property, which works fine... | 23:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 267611 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics "[intrepid] cannot see touchpad tab in mouse configuration" [High,In progress] | 23:49 |
| Ng | evdev is listed three times | 23:49 |
| jcristau | wgrant: no clue | 23:49 |
| Ng | I guess it might be handy if it logged what it was using for a device when it picks it up from hal | 23:50 |
| jcristau | wgrant: i build a server from the ubuntu branch, and libXi/xinput from upstream git, and playing with the 'device enabled' property seemed to work | 23:50 |
| wgrant | jcristau: On amd64? | 23:50 |
| jcristau | but then i'm on i386 | 23:50 |
| wgrant | Ah. | 23:51 |
| wgrant | There's no problem there. | 23:51 |
| wgrant | Identical hardware works on i386 but fails on amd64. The issue only appears if and only if one is using amd64. | 23:51 |
| jcristau | that's just weird | 23:53 |
| wgrant | Precisely. | 23:54 |
| wgrant | The ordering is even stranger. | 23:54 |
| jcristau | yeah | 23:54 |
| wgrant | At least it's probably easier to debug that poking around in the server. | 23:55 |
| wgrant | Actually... | 23:56 |
| wgrant | I suppose I can use SSH X forwarding to a remote amd64 machine. | 23:56 |
| wgrant | Since it looks client-side... | 23:56 |
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