[00:01] yes, but that reduces the normal 16x16 pixel icons for the menus and launchers [00:01] my panel is 24px, and everything but tray icons are 16px [00:01] with a nice amount of padding [00:02] while tray icons are 24px [00:58] hi [00:58] im in the middle of an ubuntu install on a new laptop [00:59] i have not yet used windows, but can i partition it so i can seal off windows without losing it? [01:02] wait wait i have it [01:16] i think opengl broke [01:17] how do i check for sure? [01:20] glxinfo [01:25] dont see any errors [01:25] then why is desktop effects failing :( [02:08] can anybody tel me how to get xubuntu to remember my WPA pword? Currently, I have to enter it every time I connect. [02:37] is there a special install when using SCSI hard drives? [02:38] DarkTan: not to my knowledge [02:38] i'm having issues [02:38] What kind of issues [02:38] i have an old IBM Netfinity 5600 Server. 5 20gb SCSI Drives. Every time i try to run the install, it get errors saying the CD is curropted [02:39] currupted* [02:39] the CD or DVD works fine in another computer, so i tried swapping out CD drives [02:39] Does the cd pass the "Check the CD for defects? [02:39] did so three times, same error [02:39] Cd passes in a different computer [02:39] Fails in this one, right? [02:40] yes [02:40] so, i then fire up a different desktop, try to install, works fine [02:40] take that CD drive, put it in the IBM, same error [02:40] Last one I had do that, I had to burn another CD to install [02:40] Sounds like that CD drive is bad. [02:40] however, when i try to access the CD drives in windows, everythings works fine [02:40] except the drive works great in a different comp [02:40] and under windows [02:41] Try burning a new install CD, then. That did work for me [02:41] tried that as well, same error [02:41] Also tried severl older version of live DVD's that i had lying around [02:42] i get the menu, starts to load, fails [02:42] put the DVD in a different computer, using the same drive, and they work fine [02:42] Got another cd drive you could swap? [02:42] i've gine through 5 so far [02:42] gone* [02:43] drives? [02:43] yep [02:43] What about swapping the cables? [02:43] you, know i never thought of that since they work under windows [02:43] i'll try that [02:43] Yea, I know. [02:49] hmmm....don't currently have a cable long enought [02:49] wuth have to obtain one and try that [02:49] will* [02:50] thanks tho [02:51] good luck [04:43] anyone awake???? [04:47] i can't figure out which folder contains the user's xfce settings... i need to re-install them?? [06:30] hi all, I'm trying to install xubuntu and am using the manual partitioner and can't seem to find an option for keeping my present /home/ directory. Effectively, I'd like to install xubuntu on / and keep all my personal documents/media in /home/. Can anyone help? [07:18] !xfburn [07:18] Sorry, I don't know anything about xfburn [07:18] !iso [07:18] To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning. [07:18] !burning [07:18] CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, brasero, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus-CD-Burner, GToaster, xcdroast (GNOME), wodim (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto [12:01] hello. i have found a bug in the clipboard function when i try to copy from abiword to firefox, where can i check if it has already been reported? (i guess it has) [12:05] !bugs [12:05] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [12:05] thank you [12:06] is there an irc function for the bots to search inside bugs reports? :) [12:06] !search clipboard [12:06] Found: klipper [12:07] !search bug klipper [12:07] Found: debugging, bug-#ubuntu-devel, features, langpack, back, hardware, xmms, exploit, 3rdparty, upgradeproblem [12:07] huh [13:29] hello! [13:30] i want to install the propietary ATI display driver, but it get a 404 error when it tries to download it :-( what to do? [13:36] hi [13:36] someone can help me? [13:36] i have just installed xubuntu 8.04 [13:36] :-) [13:37] blabla2004: try to find the driver somewhere else? [13:37] my wireless driver is an intel 1500 [13:37] but xubuntu doesn't see it [13:38] what i have to do? [13:41] wormsxulla_: thanks, i figured it out myself [13:42] :p [15:01] hello. i'm looking for a GUI to add an item to the system menu in xubuntu 7.10, and i just can't find it [15:02] the closest i found is "appfinder", but i can't find the "menu editor". is there one? [15:03] wormsxulla, i'm not 100% sure, but creating a .desktop file isn't hard [15:03] :-( [15:03] wormsxulla, (that's the way menu items are added to menu) [15:03] There is no GUI to add to the menus, there is menu editor though [15:04] I am looking for it now [15:04] i'd like to avoid editing text files. i used ubuntu 5.10 in the past, i'm pretty sure there was a menu editor. could it had been removed in xubuntu? [15:04] thanks :) [15:04] charlie-tca, imho we should try to create the menu icons for every pkg in the repo rather than telling on how to add them, though [15:05] wormsxulla, can you tell me which app it is, if it's one? [15:05] knome: actually, i want to add a manually installed app [15:05] wormsxulla, / which pkg in the repo [15:05] ok [15:05] knome: agreed, this is 7.10 though [15:05] seamonkey 2.a [15:05] charlie-tca, but there's a lot of apps w/o menu icons in 8.04 too [15:05] charlie-tca, don't know about 8.10... [15:06] yes, i do understand that i'm using an oldish 7.10, but it's not my own machine, i can't upgrade [15:07] knome: most of the .desktop files are created, in /usr/share/applications but for some reason are not added [15:07] heh [15:07] charlie-tca, really? [15:07] yea [15:08] charlie-tca, so they are hidden in the .desktop files? [15:08] charlie-tca, or...? [15:08] wormsxulla: could you take a look in there and see if your app is listed [15:08] I don't know [15:08] well at least gisomount didn't have a .desktop file [15:08] http://forum.xfce.org/index.php?topic=2658.0 <--- that's the proper way to do it masochistically? [15:09] knome: I know when an item doesn't appear, I look in /usr/share/applications to see what to put in my menui [15:09] maybe one need to be sudo to see the menu editor? [15:09] (silly question, surely) [15:10] charlie-tca, sure... i do that as well, but there's just not files for every app in the repo [15:11] knome: no, usually they appear after adding the application [15:11] charlie-tca, yes usually [15:11] charlie-tca: no, my application is not listed in usr/share/applications [15:12] charlie-tca, but even after adding app there is no file in /u/s/a [15:12] okay [15:12] (because i installed it manually by uncompressing the .tar?) [15:13] have to go [15:14] charlie-tca, let's continue this conversation later :) [15:14] sure [15:15] wormsxulla: still looking [15:15] :) thanks, i am too [15:17] charlie-tca: i found a "create launcher" by right-clicking in the desktop [15:17] could it be it? :) [15:17] But that won't put it in a menu. [15:17] erf :-( [15:17] Does right click Applications give edit menu? [15:18] YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [15:18] :) thank you! [15:18] wow. sometimes i just miss the obvious [15:18] Happy to help :) [15:23] now to look for the icon :) === leche_y_galletas is now known as leche [16:44] where do you change your timezone settings ? [16:51] system->time and date === vinnl_ is now known as vinze === vinze is now known as vinnl [17:07] where am i likely to find default sounds on the system [17:07] i want to pick a new mail sound for thunderbird [17:09] jals, perhaps /usr/share/sounds? [17:09] eh checked there, nothing interesting [17:10] I think that xubuntu doesn't have sounds by default [17:10] * wormsxulla has a silly question about Thunar [17:10] ok [17:11] why is there not a "search" function in thunar? [17:11] wormsxulla, bring it on [17:11] :) [17:11] !find ubuntu-sounds [17:11] Found: ubuntu-sounds [17:11] wormsxulla, because there's Catfish [17:11] jals: check that package: ubuntu-sounds [17:11] !info ubuntu-sounds [17:11] cool, thanks Odd-rationale [17:11] ubuntu-sounds (source: ubuntu-sounds): Ubuntu's GNOME audio theme. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6 (hardy), package size 2265 kB, installed size 3308 kB [17:11] * wormsxulla goes catfishing [17:14] another silly question [17:14] Currently find, (s)locate, tracker and beagle are supported as backends. [17:15] but i've seen that many people use "grep". there is not front-end for grep? [17:20] wormsxulla, well, if you just start typing while browsing a folder with Thunar, that has almost the same effect, and alternatively you could do Edit->Select by Pattern [17:21] can i partition my HD with ubuntu server then install it without harming xub? [17:21] oh, i was wondering what "motif" in french was. it's a string pattern for a search? [17:21] cool then, thank you vinnl :) [17:33] Hello, could anybody help me? How do I list only files starting with hda for instance? something like > ls hda* or something [17:33] Reason, trying to see what hda number my usb hard drive has, but when I ls in /dev/ I get a million files [17:33] zizou03: ls | grep hda ? [17:33] Let me try [17:34] zizou03: easier hay to find what you want is "sudo fdisk -l" [17:34] (lowercase L) [17:34] Ok, cheers odd-rationale [17:34] I'll give it a shot right now [17:35] I don't think I have fdisk installed? (Ubuntu server) [17:35] zizou03: you should... [17:35] oh [17:35] yea [17:36] I see now, sorry, typo >_> [17:36] Ok [17:36] Cheers :) [17:36] np [17:36] got another question though, can I make my mounting point like in a shared folder ? [17:37] Or do I need to make a diff share point for the usb hdd? [17:37] zizou03: you want to share the usb driveover the network? [17:37] yea, that's the idea [17:38] I have an old comp with a small hdd, but I have 500gb external drive which I'd like to hook up [17:38] (and I'm relatively new to unix/linux/networking) [17:38] zizou03: i thing the easiest way would be to mount the drive to somthing like /media/share then share that folder... [17:39] Hmm, yea, probably :) [17:42] Yea, I think that'd be smarter (and it works, so lol) [17:43] alright, so I tried aptoncd, which is basically a way to include all your apps in your /var/cache/apt directory on cd so you can replace them and whatnot if need be, or use them on another computer [17:44] however, the cd/dvd doesn't appear to be appendable, so there could be potentially a lot of wasted space and such if you kept creating new ones. [17:44] but is aptoncd really necessary? === mini-man_ is now known as mini-man [17:45] couldn't you just copy all the files in /var/cache/apt to a dvd and run dpkg on them all? maybe as $ dpkg *.* ? [17:45] or dpkg *.deb ? [17:45] I think you could do the latter. [17:46] anyone ever tried dpkg on a whole directory? [17:50] and if you're missing some fricking libraries, I can see some really crazy things going on too with dpkg [18:02] dpkg is awesome and powerful, is has -R or --recursive which will do what I want. [18:02] aptoncd looks a bit unnecessary. dpkg probably won't install something if it's already installed. [19:07] can anyone give me a hint about getting xubuntu to remember my WPA pwd? Currently, I have to reenter it every time I log in. [19:23] cephi, I don't have wifi, but isnt' that a good thing? [19:36] what is Xubuntu Hug Day? [19:37] The day we try to triage as many bugs as possible [19:37] no ron, it would be a bad thing to have no pwd. i want to keep my pwd, i just want my laptop to remember the pwd rather than prompting me for it. [19:37] i see, how can i help with that then? [19:38] Do you know how to triage already? [19:38] not yet [19:39] Then I guess you start learning; here is a place to start: [19:40] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Bugs [19:40] thanks! [19:40] np :) [19:53] hi all, any idea how can I get the nm-applet in xfce/or in xubuntu? [19:57] shirish: i believe you can find "network-manager" as well as "network-manager-gnome" in the repositories [19:57] check synaptic [19:58] the GNOME frontend will also work for you in Xfce (i use it) if you have a systray on a panel [19:59] hello, I have a old laptop with 128 mb memory and 20 gb hard drive, will xubuntu work ok? :/ [20:00] eirehack: I have network-manager as well network-manager-gnome installed [20:00] eirehack: I dunno how to get the application in the systray/panel [20:00] eirehack: I dunno how to get the application in the systray on the panel [20:01] i see. did you have to install those packages yourself? [20:02] i believe you may need to add it to your Auto-started Apps [20:02] eirehack: yup, both the applications are there and they are installed [20:02] eirehack: how do I do that in xfce? [20:02] "autostarted apps" should be found in the Settings menu [20:03] or, on the Settings Manager [20:03] eirehack: I am in the xfce settings manager, I am not seeing any autostarted apps entry here [20:04] I see sessions and startup though, there GNOME services are clicked. [20:04] is it in the menus? before you click to the Settings Manager. also, which version of Xubuntu are you running? [20:05] sessions and startup may be what we're looking for [20:05] sorry--my desktop is Xubuntu 8.04, but right now im on my eee laptop with Xubuntu 7.10, and from what i remember, the menus and settings interface have changed [20:06] I'm actually on 8.10 and using both ubuntu & xubuntu [20:07] thank you [20:07] sessions and startup has a general and an advanced tab [20:08] in advanced tab if I go it just shows me 3 checkboxes [20:08] okay, im in that tool as well. it looks like none of that will help. were you able to find "Autostarted Applications" in the 'Start' menu? [20:09] eirehack: nope, there isn't [20:10] ahh [20:10] eirehack: that's actually the xfce menu that you are talking about [20:10] which menu are you using? [20:11] eirehack: there is one showing a mouse and its called Xfce Menu [20:11] is that your menu? [20:11] eirehack: yup, that's it, is there any other menu as well? [20:11] and you're using Hardy, correct [20:11] no, not that im aware of unless you construct your own menu layout [20:12] eirehack: nope, this is 8.10 [20:12] ohhh okay [20:12] wooh haven't tried that yet, actually. [20:12] eirehack: but this mouse menu has been there since quite a long long time. [20:12] yes it has [20:12] im concerned that the way you adjust settings in xubuntu may have changed with that release [20:13] eirehack: ah ok, isn't there an CLI equivalent of "Autostarted applications", there should be, shoudn't it? [20:14] there may be, but i havent used it. i will try to find a way to add network-manager-gnome to a configuration file [20:15] eirehack: thanx [20:16] shirish: no problem, hope i can help [20:21] eirehack: what do you think of this ~/.cache/sessions/xfce4-session-* [20:24] ive checked that, and for me it appears to contain some information about my current session and what applets started [20:24] eirehack: right [20:25] did you add xfce on top of an existing ubuntu 8.10? [20:27] eirehack: right, but this has been a machine which has seen constant updates and upgrades since feisty [20:27] eirehack: no clean installs [20:27] eirehack: foray into xfce/xubuntu has been recent though [20:27] i see [20:28] i would expect the Settings Manager to be complete and include Autostarted Applications, then :/ [20:29] i may have found a different way, with config files [20:29] just a moment [20:29] eirehack: sure [20:31] GOT IT [20:31] hello. could anyone recommend a good tool with a decent GUI to compress/uncompress jar, xpi and other zip files? [20:31] correction, using xfwm4.5 I just checked in Window Manager [20:31] eirehack: cool [20:31] oh okay [20:31] wormsxulla: file-roller [20:31] TheSheep: thank you [20:31] shirish: i believe /etc/xdg/autostart/ is what we're looking for [20:32] that contains, among other auto-started applets in my case, nm-applet.desktop [20:32] eirehack: it also says the same nm-applet.desktop at my end [20:32] too [20:33] okay, looks like that should be autostarting then. do you have a "systray?" also, how many panels do you have on your desktop. what do they have on them [20:34] eirehack: I have 2 panels, one at the bottom and one on the top [20:35] do either of those panels have a systray? try adding to a panel this item: "System Tray" [20:36] eirehack: lol, its right there [20:36] eirehack: I just did system tray and it has network-monitor in it :) [20:36] ah! [20:36] everything work out for you then? [20:36] eirehack: lol, no one more for you [20:37] no problem. what is it? [20:37] eirehack: know anything better looking than network-monitor, that is one of the ugliest utilities I ever saw. [20:39] haha! i havent come across others for the gnome/xfce environment. but like the network-manager-gnome, KDE's utility is supposed to work under xfce as well. perhaps it looks better. considering its a Qt program, it may look worse in xfce. give that a try? [20:55] * DFlame is using WICD === wormsxulla_ is now known as wormsxulla [21:20] Help? I seem to have lost my Applications menu in Xubuntu 8.04.01 with all updates [21:20] huh [21:21] That's what I thought, too [21:21] charlie-tca: you helped me with the Applications menu earlier, now you lost it? [21:21] Yea, it seems to be gone [21:21] how odd!! [21:22] even worse thatn odd! If I didn't have this on the panel, I couldn't use it. [21:23] could you have moved it to another place by accident? [21:25] where? [21:27] any one try archlinux ? [21:27] Okay, I added using left click on panel, add item, XFCE menu [21:30] charlie-tca: good to know :) [21:30] disappearing menus are a bad thing (tm) [21:31] http://www.opera.com/download/linux/ is it ok to install opera 9.60 on xubuntu 7.10 with this? [21:34] I don't know. I use the Synaptic Package Manager myself [21:34] Is there a .deb file? [21:36] there is a other/static .DEB package (but i'm a linux illeterate, so i don't know which is best for xubuntu, the ubuntu one or the .deb one) [21:37] drawback of using a non-mainstream distro :) [21:39] Use the ubuntu app if there is one. Drawbacks: harder to uninstall; may not work with the distro version [21:39] support only from the place you got it [21:40] harder to uninstall, how so? [21:41] Using the ubuntu repositories, you can do apt-get uninstall or use Synaptic to remove [21:41] It won't usually work from other places [21:43] well, the xubuntu repository only has opera 9.27, which is very old. and 9.60 being a snapshot, i want to be able to just replace it with a newer one when i want, without messing up synaptic [21:45] does it tell you if it works on 7.10? [21:46] well, i'll trust the opera guys on that. i selected the gusty version in the radio buttons thingie :) we shall see [21:49] i need to repair the file:///usr/share/xubuntu-docs/desktopguide/C/index.html link [21:49] File not found!!!!!! [21:51] The file is there if you cd to it. To fix, you use the menueditor and change that line at help [21:52] I think it is without the /C/, but I don't remember. [21:52] :) thanks. good that i haven't lost the menu editor! [21:52] oh... might be a case of wrong uri format, right [21:57] file:///usr/share/xubuntu-docs/index.html [21:57] is the right one [21:57] :) [21:57] that's it. [21:59] ah, much better now [21:59] :) [22:24] any here using intrepid? are there issues with adobe flash? [22:25] my flash video would only play for a few seconnds before freezing [22:26] audio was fine just video frozen [22:26] Using FuseSmb i can only se my own computer,pinging the windows computer works. Does anyone know what i shuld do? [22:27] The win computer can se me.. [22:27] i downgraded to flash 9 and prob went away [22:27] shared folders [22:58] hi [23:08] <_evad_> Hi, I have a few concerns about updates using the Fluxbox window manager. Will this environment still be able to notify me when new updates are available for my system? [23:13] <_evad_> Hi, I have a few concerns about updates using the Fluxbox window manager. Will this environment still be able to notify me when new updates are available for my system?? [23:23] <_evad_> Never mind, I let xfce control my desktop and enabled the show desktop menu on right click...