| ScottK | Riddell: I give on hppa and KDE. Ncommander fixed openexr for me, but now kde4libs FTBFS due to GCC segfaults (tried it twice, failed twice in different places). | 03:36 |
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| rgreening | hey ScottK | 03:39 |
| ScottK | heya rgreening | 04:18 |
| rgreening | well... off to bed. I need to get some sleep this week-end :) | 04:44 |
| Tm_T | harrrr | 09:11 |
| Tm_T | looks like if I like to have KDE3 in intrepid I have to (re)compile it myself | 09:12 |
| _Sime | is 8.10 beta reasonably stable? should I try upgrading my laptop to it? | 09:54 |
| jussi01 | _Sime: wrong place to ask - try #ubuntu+1 :) | 10:01 |
| Riddell | _Sime: go for it | 10:14 |
| _Sime | just following the upgrade instructions on kubuntu.org? | 10:15 |
| Riddell | yep | 10:15 |
| Riddell | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades/Kubuntu | 10:16 |
| Riddell | although that seems to be missing the "click the Version Upgrade button" step | 10:17 |
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| Tm_T | Riddell: I'm evil and I'm usin wajig dist-upgrade | 11:21 |
| _Sime | hey, I love wajig. | 11:27 |
| Artemis_Fowl | apachelogger: ping | 12:38 |
| apachelogger | Artemis_Fowl: pong | 12:38 |
| Artemis_Fowl | apachelogger: I think kgrubeditor's package is missing a .desktop file | 12:38 |
| Artemis_Fowl | apachelogger: it installs fine under System Settings but won't appear in the menu | 12:39 |
| apachelogger | Artemis_Fowl: Tonio dropped it | 12:39 |
| Artemis_Fowl | why? | 12:39 |
| apachelogger | if Tonio was writting more useful changelog entries I could tell you | 12:40 |
| apachelogger | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kgrubeditor | 12:40 |
| apachelogger | 0.8.1-0ubuntu2 | 12:40 |
| Artemis_Fowl | hmm | 12:42 |
| Artemis_Fowl | actually I wouldn't notice it but some GNOME user reported that he couldn't find it anywhere | 12:42 |
| Artemis_Fowl | and indeed unless you have system settings or know the "kcmshell4 kgrubeditor" command, you can't start it... | 12:43 |
| apachelogger | Artemis_Fowl: next time you see Tonio, poke him in the nose or something | 12:44 |
| * apachelogger leaves his plasma broken and fixes kgrubeditor | 12:44 | |
| Artemis_Fowl | ^^ | 12:44 |
| apachelogger | Artemis_Fowl: maybe you should add a NotShowIn=KDE;? | 12:46 |
| apachelogger | seeing how the desktop file is redundant anyway | 12:46 |
| Artemis_Fowl | sure | 12:48 |
| Artemis_Fowl | but for the time being you can patch it, right? | 12:48 |
| apachelogger | doing that right now | 12:51 |
| Artemis_Fowl | ok | 12:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: have you consider communicating arround kolab server ? | 13:40 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: by default it uses kontact as main client, and seems to be one of the very best groupwares available | 13:40 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: N Barcet is looking forward to have prepackaged groupwares availables through the vms.... mybe we should consider looking at kolab and kontact at some points.... | 13:41 |
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| Riddell | Tm_T: wajig? | 14:32 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: wajig, wrapper for apt-get and stuff | 14:55 |
| nielsslot | can someone here tell me why i'm getting this ( http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/9814/kubuntukickoffdrawbugsp0.png ) for 0.5 seconds when opening kick-off in kubuntu 8.10 beta? | 15:04 |
| Riddell | nielsslot: oxygen theme likes to do that sometimes if it has x drivers it doesn't like to talk to | 15:05 |
| nielsslot | what x drivers specifically? | 15:07 |
| rgreening | good day all | 15:08 |
| rgreening | Riddell: I see that regularly with my Intel GME | 15:09 |
| rgreening | nielsslot ^ | 15:10 |
| nielsslot | the screenshot is from vmware.. | 15:10 |
| nielsslot | and i've seen it on nvidia, intel and ati | 15:10 |
| nielsslot | but it only happens the first time i open kickoff in a session | 15:10 |
| rgreening | There is an open bug at KDE | 15:10 |
| nielsslot | funny thing is that i've only seen it in kubuntu, opensuse and fedora are fine in vmware | 15:11 |
| rgreening | if you look closely, I'm sure you will see it with other menus that open. | 15:11 |
| nielsslot | i have.. | 15:11 |
| rgreening | Do opensuse and fedora have ozone theme and do they have effects enabled when you try this? | 15:12 |
| rgreening | just to make sure we are comparing the same | 15:13 |
| nielsslot | effects doesn't matter | 15:13 |
| nielsslot | and at least fedora has ozone.. | 15:13 |
| nielsslot | i've tried fedora snapshot (build of yesterday i think) | 15:14 |
| nielsslot | and from opensuse version 11.0, cd dvd from akademy | 15:14 |
| nielsslot | http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6707/kubuntuplasmamenudrawbueg8.png << the same with the right click menu on a plasma taskbar | 15:14 |
| nielsslot | rgreening: do you have the nummer of the bug open at kde? | 15:20 |
| rgreening | not off hand.. it's in this channel log from yesterday though... | 15:20 |
| nielsslot | can i find that somewhere? | 15:21 |
| Riddell | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/10/11/%23kubuntu-devel.html | 15:21 |
| nielsslot | thanks | 15:21 |
| Riddell | can't see anything from a quick search | 15:21 |
| nielsslot | me neither.. | 15:23 |
| Riddell | nielsslot: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=169106 | 15:24 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 169106 in general "Rendering glitches for dialog, windows, contexts etc " [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 15:24 |
| nielsslot | sounds like my bug.. | 15:26 |
| nielsslot | next to windows i've also seen it on window borders.. really weird.. | 15:26 |
| Riddell | hmm, twitter plasmoid seems crashy | 16:11 |
| apachelogger | smarter said that yesterday as well | 16:15 |
| apachelogger | uh | 16:16 |
| apachelogger | oh my, landscape-common depends on update-motd which runs a cron every 10 minutes | 16:16 |
| apachelogger | landscape-- | 16:16 |
| Riddell | is that bad? | 16:17 |
| apachelogger | unnecessary | 16:18 |
| apachelogger | which makes landscape even more undefaulty | 16:19 |
| Riddell | but what's wrong with it? | 16:19 |
| Riddell | I find update-motd quite interesting | 16:19 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: what for? | 16:19 |
| * apachelogger doesn't like stuff that floods his logs | 16:19 | |
| Riddell | for moderately interesting information when logging in at a terminal | 16:20 |
| * apachelogger doesn't like it by default | 16:21 | |
| apachelogger | maybe kmail and nepomuk should also expose some information at login | 16:21 |
| apachelogger | would be pretty much the same :P | 16:22 |
| apachelogger | anyway | 16:22 |
| apachelogger | how to debug pam? | 16:22 |
| * jtechidna sets up his forum.kde.org account | 16:28 | |
| * apachelogger is not going to get an account until it got openid support :P | 16:30 | |
| apachelogger | ewww | 16:40 |
| apachelogger | PAM no modules loaded for `kde' service | 16:52 |
| * apachelogger is wondering why kcheckpass tries to load kde instead of kcheckpass | 16:53 | |
| apachelogger | ~twitter kcheckpass + pam + apachelogger = bad idea | 16:53 |
| kubotu | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'kubotu: help twitter' | 16:53 |
| apachelogger | ~twitter update kcheckpass + pam + apachelogger = bad idea | 16:53 |
| kubotu | status updated | 16:53 |
| apachelogger | jtechidna: btw, please focus on finding fixable stuff | 16:54 |
| * apachelogger thinks lp user usr needs a spell checker | 16:55 | |
| stdin | apachelogger: "usr" is the reporter of my all-time most annoyingly useless "bug" report ever | 17:25 |
| stdin | bug 150333 | 17:25 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 150333 in kubuntu-meta "Kubuntu does not have the same "magic" than Ubuntu" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150333 | 17:25 |
| jtechidna | stdin: agreed | 17:26 |
| stdin | it's more a whine than a bug and the endless edits (which get emailed to me) are annoying, they guy need to figure out what a wiki is | 17:26 |
| stdin | s/they/the/ | 17:27 |
| apachelogger | *nod* | 17:27 |
| stdin | </mini-rant> :) | 17:28 |
| jtechidna | Kubuntu-bugs currently watches 1869 bugs, we need to get that down :D | 17:31 |
| rgreening | man, just got back from digging up some trees to replant in my garden. I'm bushed :P | 17:33 |
| jtechidna | rgreeningthumb | 17:34 |
| ScottK | rgreening: You mean they aren't covered in snow yet? | 17:35 |
| rgreening | hahahah! | 17:35 |
| rgreening | no snow on the Avalon peninsula (yet) | 17:35 |
| rgreening | soon though... weeks away | 17:36 |
| rgreening | I think I will have a new recruit to teach the way of patching and packaging in the next couple of days. He really wants to learn. | 17:37 |
| jtechidna | apachelogger will make sure he never learns how to patch :P | 17:38 |
| apachelogger | no no | 17:38 |
| rgreening | lol. I'm gonna show him pbuilder | 17:38 |
| apachelogger | he needs to learn the ways of the force | 17:38 |
| rgreening | and be done with it | 17:38 |
| rgreening | :P | 17:38 |
| apachelogger | but the dark side he has to avoid | 17:39 |
| rgreening | Oh yeah, he's a star wars \fan too | 17:39 |
| apachelogger | perfect | 17:39 |
| rgreening | Anyway, I'm going to get him setup with lp, wiki, the forums, etc. He's been only using Linux for about 1 year, and has zero programming which I will help him with | 17:40 |
| rgreening | I figure getting him to work on bug validation/reporting is a good start... | 17:41 |
| jtechidna | good luck, we always need more minions to help the rebellion against the Galactic Ubuntu Empire | 17:41 |
| jtechidna | :P | 17:41 |
| rgreening | I agree. :> | 17:42 |
| rgreening | http://digg.com/linux_unix/Microsoft_Novell_Fork_OpenOffice_org_and_Insult_Sun - oh my | 17:46 |
| apachelogger | hm | 17:55 |
| * apachelogger feels a disturbance in the force | 17:56 | |
| jtechidna | I didn't really see that article cite any sources besides previous articles from that website... | 17:57 |
| rgreening | hehe | 17:57 |
| rgreening | "im not paranoid, they really are out to get me" | 17:58 |
| rgreening | can we get launchpad.net to re-direct ot edge.launchpad.net or make the Google maps api work correctly. If I go to launchpad.net with Konqueror, it balks and will not show the map. Going to edge.launchpad.net works correctly. | 18:02 |
| apachelogger | jtechidna, rgreening: any workspace changes that need upload? | 18:05 |
| jtechidna | none that I can think of at the moment | 18:05 |
| rgreening | hmm... I passed off something the other day. 1sec... | 18:06 |
| rgreening | apachelogger: you already did the one I sent you correct? to remove the kwin branch | 18:07 |
| apachelogger | yes | 18:07 |
| rgreening | if so, that's it for now for me | 18:07 |
| rgreening | k | 18:07 |
| apachelogger | k, just uploading the pam fix then | 18:07 |
| * jussi01 walks in and tacklehugs the channel :D | 18:08 | |
| rgreening | is there something else I can work on over the next day? | 18:08 |
| jtechidna | rgreening: I did see an update notification passivepopup in the top left corner of my screen today | 18:08 |
| * rgreening ducks and catches jussi01 in the stomach and hurtles 'im overhead | 18:09 | |
| jussi01 | hehe | 18:09 |
| rgreening | jtechidna: hmm. anything specific that was happening at that time? | 18:09 |
| jtechidna | rgreening: nothing that really pops up | 18:10 |
| rgreening | pardon the pun | 18:10 |
| jtechidna | apt-get did it's autoupdate-daily thing as schedules | 18:10 |
| jtechidna | oh, doh XP | 18:10 |
| rgreening | :) | 18:10 |
| rgreening | Start closing icons in the system tray for me. and see if any show up that weren't there before. | 18:11 |
| rgreening | I bet there may be | 18:11 |
| jtechidna | kmail and kmix gone, no new icons | 18:12 |
| jtechidna | I still have a reboot icon there from the last kernel upgrade | 18:12 |
| jtechidna | maybe that has something to do with it? | 18:13 |
| rgreening | jtechidna: shouldn't | 18:13 |
| rgreening | close everything else | 18:13 |
| rgreening | but that | 18:13 |
| jtechidna | ok, brb then | 18:14 |
| JontheEchidna | Nope, nothing | 18:15 |
| rgreening | JontheEchidna: hmm... I have sometimes | 18:18 |
| rgreening | seen this when an app gets stuck and doesn't show up in the tray | 18:19 |
| rgreening | It may be that the qtimer or sleep in the update-notifier-kde is not long enough. was your system under any load at the time? | 18:20 |
| rgreening | a load can cause this | 18:20 |
| rgreening | I believe | 18:20 |
| JontheEchidna | I think it could have been | 18:20 |
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| HalphaZ | hello | 19:41 |
| HalphaZ | is there a howto to make deb packages of kde4 starting from source code? | 19:42 |
| JontheEchidna | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete | 19:42 |
| HalphaZ | thankisi!!! | 19:42 |
| HalphaZ | why a howto page is AES protected? | 19:44 |
| HalphaZ | https | 19:44 |
| smarter | because you can login in wiki.ubuntu.com with a password | 19:50 |
| smarter | also, if you already know how to do some packaging, you can apt-get source any kde app and see how it's done | 19:50 |
| smarter | basically, we use cdbs with "include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/kde4.mk" and voilà. | 19:51 |
| apachelogger | I actually think it's ssl'ed because we have a security obsession ever since it turned out our openssh keys were not as random as we thought they were :P | 19:55 |
| smarter | :] | 20:02 |
| yuriy | adept updater sure takes long to start from the notifier | 20:16 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: could you look at the patch in the last comment of bug 203331? | 20:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 203331 in adept "Recommend that users launch Adept with kdesudo" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203331 | 20:50 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: is the only difference between th strings s/sudo/kdesudo/ ? | 21:12 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah | 21:12 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: best not to be adding new strings then, just do a replace("sudo", "kdesudo") | 21:13 |
| * JontheEchidna is not 1337 enough to know about replace() | 21:13 | |
| JontheEchidna | I"ll look it up though | 21:13 |
| Riddell | qt:qstring | 21:15 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: ping | 21:15 |
| * JontheEchidna will look at it when he gets back from town | 21:16 | |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: I'll rework the patch when I get back from town | 21:19 |
| JontheEchidna | bbl | 21:19 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: you said you found a problem with the ksmserver patch to kdebase-workspace? | 23:17 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: already fixed | 23:31 |
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