[00:00] <Mitch_C> Anyone experienced with Nvidia cards?  Such as why the system recognizes the right card, but core clock and max memory is extremely far off?
[00:00] <DINK> compengi: I don't believe so (I'm not familiar with keymaps but from what I just googled it doesn't sound like it" and I dont think I would be because I booted into the live cd 4 times prior in the day working and typing with 100% unctionality but now for some reason it doesn't recognize input
[00:00] <laku> Hey, I've installed tightvnc, when I login, I get a console. how do I activate the desktop?
[00:00] <kebomix> no , i comprees other files and it work , but some files dont work and give me this outputhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/56460/
[00:00] <kebomix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/56460/
[00:01] <NauarchLysander> Is it possible to disable all these "xy left" and "xy joined" messages in Kopete? In such a big channel this is unnerving.
[00:01] <cansky> there must also be a vnc ser installed
[00:01] <Templar_Xion> Looks like the files don't exist..
[00:01] <cansky> server
[00:01] <kebomix> yeah it tell me that , but the files is on the folder ?!
[00:02] <Templar_Xion> Rename one of the files to like foobar.pdf and try to add it.
[00:02] <kebomix> is there is something wrong , or letters musn't be on folder name /
[00:02] <NauarchLysander> Is it possible to disable all these "xy left" and "xy joined" messages in Kopete? In such a big channel this is unnerving.
[00:03] <cansky> laku the server is in synaptic
[00:03] <Mitch_C> Anyone experienced with video cards and can tell my why the system sees the right card but has all of its specs wrong?
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[00:04] <thiebaude> yo
[00:04] <Templar_Xion> Mitch_C: I'd say incorrect driver.
[00:04] <laku> cansky: It's installed
[00:04] <kern_> is anyone sure if theres an avi to wmv converter for ubuntu?
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> kern_: ffmpeg can do it
[00:04] <soundray> ActionParsnip: Father Christmas on E?
[00:04] <Mitch_C> It's the only driver that works that doesn't give me a blank screen if I reboot
[00:04] <DINK> To those who are helping with the keyboard issues, it was a 8.04 live cd I was trying to boot not a 8.10
[00:04] <Templar_Xion> Mitch_C: Which driver are you using
[00:04] <intelinside> who likes jabber more than IRC
[00:04] <intelinside> ??
[00:05] <DasE1> !nvidia|Mitch_C
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> kern_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=512965
[00:05] <Mitch_C> !nvidia
[00:05] <Mitch_C> ?
[00:05] <kern_> ActionParsnip alright ill check that out
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> soundray: huh?
[00:05] <Mitch_C> im an irc noob to... what's !nvidia
[00:05]  * soundray regrets trying to be funny
[00:05] <Dreamglider_> im having problems with jerky video playback, i have tried a couple of players and all are jerky in full screen. can anyone help me fix this ?
[00:06] <DasE1> Mitch_C: I'm no spec on nvidia, but the default ubuntu drivers often use full specs of graphics, you can consider installing prop. drivers
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider_: have you got codecs and have you installed your graphics driver?
[00:06] <DINK> Mitch_C: check the ubottu message below the !nvidia
[00:06] <DasE1> Mitch_C: **don't use
[00:06] <svvvs> hello,just a simple question: how to configure my colorgcc for my g++ compiler?
[00:06] <cansky> laku - check to see if "vino" is running - thats the server process
[00:07] <Iceman_B^Ltop> right, no matter what I do with the live cd of 8.04.1, I can't get the graphical mode to work. the cd boots, I pick the language, the logo displays and as soon as the bar is filled and jumps to another reso
[00:07] <okaygo> Does anyone know a way to set my CPU Fan to turn on when my Thermal Zone hits a variable temperature?
[00:07] <cansky> ps -ef|grep vino
[00:07] <Iceman_B^Ltop> my screen goes blank and proclaims "no support"
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> Iceman_B^Ltop: try disabling acpi
[00:07] <svvvs> waiting for your answer,thanks....
[00:07] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I still need to try the alternate cd, but Im not sure if thatll help
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> Iceman_B^Ltop: did you md5 check the iso omage and the burned cd?
[00:07] <Dreamglider_> ActionParsnip, i tried to install the drivers for my grapic card but after i rebooted the screen went blanck or the screen went into standby mode, i had to boot the live cd and copy the xorg.conf and replace it to get the csreen back.
[00:07] <Exittor> okaygo: what mobo?
[00:08] <Dreamglider_> about the codec, i installed the restricted-extra
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider_: grub can restore xorg for you. You will get jerky video without graphics drivers
[00:08] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I checked the ISO when I downloaded it, ActionParsnip
[00:08] <svvvs> hello......
[00:08] <Iceman_B^Ltop> md5 checked out
[00:08] <CoJaBo-Eee> Anyone have any suggestions on what I can use to cut and burn an MPEG to DVD, preferably without encoding (and is there a way to make sure the file actually is DVD ready)? I am running Kubuntu.
[00:08] <okaygo> Exittor: Not sure, its on my notebook. I can give you the model, however are you suggesting to check my BIOS?
[00:08] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I ran the "check cd for defects option, that also checked out
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> Iceman_B^Ltop: tried with no acpi and no dma
[00:08] <soundray> Dreamglider_: what CPU do you have, and what frequency does it run at?
[00:08] <Iceman_B^Ltop> ActionParsnip: how exactly do I do that ?
[00:08] <Templar_Xion> okaygo: That would only work if there is software to probe your system temp gauge and modulate the speed, so unlikely. do some research :) If anything part of it would be in the bios
[00:08] <Iceman_B^Ltop> Im running on a GF 8300 GS btw
[00:08] <Dreamglider_> soundray,  it'a an AMD athlon @ 1GHz
[00:09] <Exittor> okaygo: yes,, look in bios if you can find anything
[00:09] <DasE1> Mitch_C: which graphics-card ? using hardy ?
[00:09] <okaygo> Ok
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> Iceman_B^Ltop: you chose extra options after you have chosen the language
[00:09] <svvvs> i have a problem....
[00:09] <okaygo> Thanks
[00:09] <aran> hi
[00:09] <Dreamglider_> ActionParsnip, ok i dont know how to use grub
[00:09] <svvvs> hi....
[00:09] <inasmu> !ask
[00:09] <bigB> whats the best app to use to media share with my 360
[00:09] <svvvs> ﻿inasmu: how to configure colorgcc for my g++ compiler?thanks
[00:10] <DasE1> bigB: see:
[00:10] <DasE1> !nfs
[00:10] <Mitch_C> To my understanding, I'm using nvidia-glx-new ...
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider_: before the boot screen you get offered to press esc for boot options. Then choose recovery mode
[00:10] <Iceman_B^Ltop> ActionParsnip: do I need to edit any line ?
[00:10] <Mitch_C> on Hardy
[00:10] <Exittor> okaygo: give me your model an i shall look for an solution
[00:10] <ng0n> no mp3 decoder for audacious.  how is that possible ?
[00:10] <soundray> Dreamglider_: I used to have a 1GHz Athlon, and I never managed to play video decently at full screen
[00:10] <svvvs> ﻿okaygo left the room (quit: "Be right back, checking BIOS").
[00:10] <inasmu> svvvs: you've installed colorgcc already? if you have, I'd try dpk-reconfigure colorgcc
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> Iceman_B^Ltop: you need to use npacpi noapic nodma
[00:10] <inasmu> svvvs: sorry, that should be "dkpg-reconfigure colorgcc"
[00:11] <dekkong> laku: are u here?
[00:11] <Dreamglider_> soundray,  1GHz in windows is more than enough !
[00:11] <mib_4ekhzyrl> hi
[00:11] <laku> dekkong: yes
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> Iceman_B^Ltop: once installed you'll probably find it boots normally.
[00:11] <Dreamglider_> it should wokr somehow!
[00:11] <Iceman_B^Ltop> ActionParsnip: okay, and what about all the other options that are already present on that line? do I simply add 'npacpi noapic nodma" ?
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> Iceman_B^Ltop: is it in a laptop?
[00:11] <Dreamglider_> work*
[00:11] <soundray> Dreamglider_: if you use mplayer and tweak the command line to get it to do coarse scaling, you may get it to play reasonably, but the truth of the matter is that you probably have to get a faster CPU to play video in Linux.
[00:11] <Iceman_B^Ltop> ActionParsnip: no, its on the desktop of a housemate
[00:11] <dekkong> laku: ok installing skype atm
[00:12] <mib_4ekhzyrl> hi , anyone here to help me ?
[00:12] <Aeosynth> How do I set up auto-authenticate? (something to do w/ PAM I think?)
[00:12] <Iceman_B^Ltop> its weird, his monitor can do monstrous resolutions
[00:12] <laku> dekkong: good
[00:12] <Mitch_C> DasEL:  nvidia 6100.  driver is nvidia-glx-new .. im running hardy
[00:12] <soundray> Dreamglider_: stick with Windows for video playing then. It is well known that Linux codecs tend to be choppier.
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> Iceman_B^Ltop: select F6 Other options
[00:13] <Mitch_C> soundray .. i play movies at top quality on linux and they run just as clear as windblows
[00:13] <laku> dekkong:  waiting...
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> Iceman_B^Ltop: not until you install graphics drivers and set resolutions
[00:13] <Templar_Xion> Aeosynth: Auto authenticate to what?
[00:13] <soundray> Mitch_C: you probably don't have a 32bit Athlon running at 1 GHz though
[00:13] <Templar_Xion> soundray: 32bit athalons have been around insce k6 running 600mhz
[00:13] <Aeosynth> to anything that needs authenticating/ needs me to unlock keyring
[00:14] <laku> cansky: what was the server called again?
[00:14] <DasE1> Mitch_C: I have failed this one before, but you can try !envyng or the installer from the nvidia-homepage, backup xorg.conf before
[00:14] <DasE1> !envyng
[00:14] <Iceman_B^Ltop> okay, I'm at the F6 line now
[00:14] <soundray> Templar_Xion: I know. What are you trying to say?
[00:14] <Mitch_C> im running an athlon 64+   3200   2.2ghz overclocked to 2.6 on a socket 754 mobo .. the processor cost me 30 bucks
[00:14] <Iceman_B^Ltop> there a big line of text on the screen
[00:14] <Templar_Xion> soundray: I'd be very surprised if his CPU was 32bit.
[00:14] <Templar_Xion> soundray: very surprised if his cpu was NOT 32bit**
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> Mitch_C: its a soc 754 is why
[00:15] <dekkong> laku: just a sec
[00:15] <Omeil> Hi just wondering if 1200-1500 FPS in glxgears is normal on my specs 2.66GHZ Celeron D, 1.5GB DDR 400mhz 512MP AGP8x ATI HD2600 Pro Turbo ICE-Q.
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> Omeil: yep thats normal
[00:15] <Mitch_C> DasEl:  The last time I used envyng, it gave me a small little orange line at the top of the screen and I don't know how to restore to previous settings
[00:15] <soundray> Mitch_C: that's a fast enough CPU to play almost any sub HD video in full screen, so your argument is irrelevant to the discussion
[00:15] <Omeil> ActionParsnip, damn, wow runs really dodgy
[00:15] <Aeosynth> I need a password to perform admin tasks, and I wish I could just give a password once and never be asked for my pw again
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> Omeil: configure wine better
[00:15] <DasE1> Mitch_C: Integrated/onboard ? not much to do about it, then
[00:15] <mobodo> I have a usb card reader, what would be the associated /dev that I should try to mount?
[00:16] <soundray> Templar_Xion: I don't know how, but you misunderstood what I was trying to say
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> mobodo: sudo fdisk -l will tell you
[00:16] <Iceman_B^Ltop> ActionParsnip: I just add "npapci noapic nodma" at the end right?
[00:16] <mobodo> ActionParsnip: thanks
[00:16] <Omeil> ActionParsnip, I've done all i can :( did disabled extensions, running everything at low and i get 10-12 FPS
[00:16] <Templar_Xion> soundray: np
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> change npapci to noacpi
[00:16] <Iceman_B^Ltop> ah
[00:16] <Mitch_C> I'll just have to buy a new one.  I been wanting a new one since I got this new mobo anyways.  It's just funny that nvidia x-server settings recognize everything possible about my card but the terminal doesn't
[00:16] <Iceman_B^Ltop> okay, i'll try that now
[00:16] <Iceman_B^Ltop> brb
[00:16] <soundray> ActionParsnip: there is no noacpi boot option
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> Omeil: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/wine/62932-howto-installing-world-warcraft-wine.html
[00:17] <Iceman_B^Ltop> no?
[00:17] <soundray> ActionParsnip: only noapic and acpi=off (very different things)
[00:17] <DasE1> Mitch_C: onboard graphics.. consider getting better
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> soundray: ok fine, what ever turns off all the nicetys until you get installed
[00:17] <mib_4ekhzyrl> I CANT CONFIGURE MY xserver-xorg , ANYONE HERE TO HELP ME ?
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> soundray: i just want it to boot as is with no advanced stuff on
[00:17] <DasE1> Mitch_C: what do you need better graphics for ?
[00:18] <soundray> !bootoptions > ActionParsnip
[00:18] <soundray> !caps > mib_4ekhzyrl
[00:18] <Atomic_UE> Things on my system that seem to use the policy kit stuff, the things that have the UnBlock button that require root privleges, seem to not work/be disabled. All my Unblock buttons are disabled. I have 1 user which was setup during the installation
[00:18] <Iceman_B^Ltop> soundray: cna you send those to me ?
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> mib_4ekhzyrl: what part do you want to configure?
[00:18] <Mitch_C> DasEl:  Gaming
[00:19] <DasE1> Mitch_C: onboard graphics.. consider getting better
[00:19] <tommyhg> I was wondering how ppl make irc "integrated" in their desktops, if you know what I mean? Like the text is placed static right on the desktop
[00:19] <soundray> !bootoptions > Iceman_B^Ltop
[00:19] <Mitch_C> I planned on it anyways
[00:19] <Iceman_B^Ltop> thanks
[00:19] <Iceman_B^Ltop> bbl
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> ﻿!bootoptions > Iceman_B^Ltop
[00:19] <soundray> Iceman_B^Ltop: you can also   /msg ubottu bootoptions
[00:19] <mib_4ekhzyrl> anyone here to help me about configuring my xserver-xorg ?
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> mib_4ekhzyrl: I already asked you...which part? graphics? Sound? Keyboard? Mouse?
[00:20] <soundray> mib_4ekhzyrl: please describe the problem
[00:21] <cached> i'm on a windows machine now and i need to run a javascript-enabled web browser on a server remotely. i can ssh into the server, and gain root. what should i do?
[00:21] <tommyhg> can someone help me related to IRC desktop fuction thing?
[00:23] <AJP> Hi! How can I open gates for Transmission?
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> AJP: do you mean sockets?
[00:24] <mib_4ekhzyrl> how can i config my xserver ? i installed my nvidia driver but effects not working
[00:24] <AJP> ActionParsnip: I'm not sure what's the exact term... port/gate/socket?
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> AJP: you open them on your router
[00:24] <AJP> I don't have a router
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> AJP: ok then you need to configure your firewall to allow all traffic through those ports
[00:25] <kitche> AJP: I bet you do in some way some modems actually act like a router
[00:25] <kitche> AJP: Just to point it out if you ddn't know
[00:26] <AJP> kitche: I know, but I don't even have a modem...
[00:26] <kitche> AJP: ah you have one of those odd connections then it seems
[00:26] <AkariChan> do most of you use make menuconfig or make gconfig to select kernel options?
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> mib_4ekhzyrl: i'll give you mine. I run nvidia at 1024x768
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> mib_4ekhzyrl: you can change it to whatever you want
[00:27] <soundray> AkariChan: most people here use the stock kernel
[00:27] <AJP> kitche: Long story short... I live in a student apartment that includes internet...
[00:27] <kitche> AJP: yeah odd connection your in a network which you have no control over the firewall/router really at least not the router you need to access
[00:27] <AkariChan> soundray: ah. the reason being that I wanted to compile 2.6.27-4 on my hardy heron (needed the native wifi drivers) and 8.10 is a no-go for me (lots of issues so far)
[00:27] <Atomic_UE> My Unblock buttons that let me change administrative settings, are blocked/disabled. I can't change anything via anything that uses PolicyKit. This is a fresh install of 8.04. Anyone got any ideas?
[00:27] <t3ddY> i'm struggeling here with the ubuntu volume slider, it won't control my main volume, but the slider channel is set to master...
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> mib_4ekhzyrl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/56470/
[00:28] <AJP> kitche: Yep
[00:28] <t3ddY> any thoughts?
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> t3ddY: mine does that. i just use my volume on the audio software and my amp
[00:29] <soundray> AkariChan: in that case, I wouldn't run either, but use a config-2.6.27 from intrepid to compile
[00:29] <soundray> AkariChan: have you seen the relevant help material?
[00:29] <t3ddY> ActionParsnip; it worked in the previous ubuntu version though....
[00:29] <soundray> !kernelcompile > AkariChan
[00:29] <AkariChan> soundray: how do i go about using the config?
[00:29] <AJP> Why does my Ubuntu "make me do everything twice" before working? For example I try to open a PDF so I have to open it twice before it opens or I open a torrent file twice before it works...
[00:29] <dasickis> hey does anyone know why ubuntu would freeze if I rotated the screen?
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> t3ddY: well you are on a different version now. they change stuff and stuff does break
[00:29] <dasickis> from screen resolution settings
[00:30] <bingungaja> 1 newbie quest, is it true that ubuntu do not need any antivirus ?
[00:30] <AkariChan> Thank you, soundray
[00:30] <soundray> AkariChan: you copy it to /usr/src/linux-2.6.27/.config
[00:30] <t3ddY> ActionParsnip, hmmm gues they should try writing unittests then...
[00:30] <compengi> bingungaja, yep
[00:30] <soundray> AkariChan: substitute linux-2.6.27 with the real name of your source directory
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> t3ddY: id think they do, maybe its just us 2 with it and the rest are ok
[00:31] <bingungaja> compengi : what about virus in a flashdisc, and the doc document full of virus ? will it infect ubuntu
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> AJP: how about right click and choose open
[00:31] <Dreamglider_> ActionParsnip, i tried the recovery mode, after it was done the screen just turned white.
[00:31] <soundray> AkariChan: you don't think intrepid will be your best option once it's released?
[00:31] <Aeosynth> ﻿Can I set Ubuntu to not ask me for a password each time I try to perform an adminstrative task?
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider_: did you not get the option to fix x server
[00:31] <soundray> AkariChan: I mean a full upgrade
[00:31] <dasickis> anyone?
[00:32] <Dreamglider_> ActionParsnip,  yes i did
[00:32] <compengi> bingungaja, virus is an executable application (.exe) bundled to a file. and because of the fact that .exe execute doesn't run by default under ubuntu, it won't be executed
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> Aeosynth: thats why its more secure, the fact you have to do that
[00:32] <devo> Having some problem getting my wifi going using ndiswrapper.  Anyone that can help?
[00:32] <Aeosynth> I realize that, but I'm at home so security isn't an issue
[00:32] <Jangari> I'm having a screen resolution problem. When I try to use an external monitor at its highest resolution (1650x1050 or so) I'm asked to enable virtual resolution settings in xorg.conf, and it does it for me, but then it screws the entire xsession and I can't see anything except for a background of vertical stripes roughly resembling the colours in intrepid, and a mouse.
[00:32] <Dreamglider_> ActionParsnip,  after the fix the screen was just white,
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> Aeosynth: ive heard you can make some apps not need sudo but i wouldnt advise it
[00:32] <AJP> ActionParsnip: Doesn't work that way either
[00:32] <DasE1> Aeosynth: you could, but as you see, no one answers, might be bad idea....
[00:32] <bingungaja> compengi : thx for the explanation
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider_: strange, well at least you have live cd to roll back the xorg.conf
[00:33] <compengi> bingungaja, you are welcome.
[00:33] <Dreamglider_> ActionParsnip,  the only thing i could do was move the mouse around, nothing except the mouse cursor was on the screem
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> AJP: thats all i got, i dont use metacity so im pretty much blind
[00:33] <Dreamglider_> ActionParsnip,  yes that worked well :)
[00:33] <theom3ga> hi there
[00:33] <AJP> ActionParsnip: OK
[00:33] <soundray> Jangari: are you on intrepid? If so, please ask in #ubuntu+1
[00:33] <zebda> hi
[00:33] <Jangari> Dreamglider_: that sounds pretty much what happened to me
[00:33] <Jangari> ta soundray
[00:34] <Aeosynth> I've been looking online and there's this thing pam - pluggable authentication module - that's supposed to do what I'm talking about, does anyone know about it?
[00:34] <theom3ga> I'd like to compile my kernel for ubuntu, but I'd like to know if the performance improvement is worth the time and effort of compiling it
[00:34] <DasE1> !who|Aeosynth:
[00:34] <devo> ndiswrapper help anyone?
[00:34] <AJP> How come my screen started to flicker after I formatted my hard drive and reinstalled windows and ubuntu... I have installed the correct drivers and everything but it doesn't help
[00:34] <soundray> theom3ga: the short answer is: no
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> !ndiswrapper | devo
[00:35] <devo> ubottu: thanks
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> theom3ga: you wont se any performance upgrade if you dont configure it first
[00:35] <DasE1> Aeosynth: but you are on internet..., you might run unknown progs, and no one is 100 concentrated all the time
[00:35] <devo> What I have, ActionParsnip.  :)
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> theom3ga: if you just compile without then you have a vanilla kernel
[00:35] <theom3ga> ActionParsnip, I supposed I'd have to configure it
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> theom3ga: i take nothing as known
[00:35] <[T]ank> is there a program that is good for making a straight across copy of a dvd movie to a dvd+r dl disk? I am making copies of all of my movies so my kids dont destroy my originals ;-)
[00:35] <devo> ActionParsnip: Older computer remanufacture/ recycle
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> devo: i put it on all my new systems
[00:36] <soundray> theom3ga: if you're running typical desktop tasks, the -generic kernel is optimized. If you run a server, get the stock Ubuntu -server kernel for best performance
[00:36] <Aeosynth> Right, but I find it kind of silly that I have to enter a password immediately after logging in just so I can get on the internet
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> Aeosynth: you are using the password wallet thing
[00:37] <Aeosynth> ...and?
[00:37] <soundray> theom3ga: only if you want a kernel for a very specific task that is very unlike desktop or server work will you benefit from rolling your own.
[00:37] <devo> ActionParsnip: I'm flummoxed.  Have installed it before but this one is balking.  Ran for awhile but then crpped out when i did an update of the system.
[00:37] <devo> ActionParsnip: now won't find hardware
[00:37] <[T]ank> anyone?
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> devo: id reset it up. uninstall all drivers
[00:38] <soundray> !k9copy | [T]ank
[00:38] <devo> ActionParsnip: Did that.  Did two reinstalls of the whole system.  No dice.
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> devo: does lspci detect it?
[00:38] <Aeosynth> If I could get the network connection manager at least to run w/o needing a password, I'd be happy
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> [T]ank: if you use gnomebaker or brasero you can create copies no the fly
[00:39] <soundray> ActionParsnip: of video DVDs?
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> Aeosynth: set your passwords storage to have no password
[00:39] <Aeosynth> how?
[00:39] <[T]ank> ActionParsnip: what do you mean on the fly?
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> soundray: i guess, its data
[00:39] <kitche> Aeosynth: to get it to not ask the password is actually pretty easy
[00:39] <Aeosynth> so tell me how...
[00:40] <Jangari> can i force ubuntu to allow more screen resolutions by literally writing them into the xorg.conf? (not an intrepid question, just ubuntu generally)
[00:40] <AkariChan> anyone had any idea where can i find the .config of intrepid?
[00:40] <devo> ActionParsnip: Doesn't show the wifi card.
[00:40] <soundray> ActionParsnip: your advice is too strongly based on guesswork
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> [T]ank: you put the cd in and select copy, it'll copy the data to temp, then ask you to put a blank in
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> soundray: its an educated guess
[00:40] <RickZilla> Anybody have a few minutes to show me how to install and use a theme I just downloaded?
[00:40] <soundray> ActionParsnip: it's a poorly educated guess
[00:41] <zebda> hi everyone
[00:41] <kitche> Aeosynth: you have to edit the /etc/sudoers file to do it
[00:41] <devo> ActionParsnip: Does have the light on the card flashing awy.
[00:41] <CoJaBo-Eee> Is it possible to install FF2 along with FF3 using Adept?
[00:41] <[T]ank> ActionParsnip: and movies from a dvd copy play ok in dvd player?
[00:41] <kitche> Aeosynth: visudo and then you need an options like PASSWORD:NO or something let me make sure to be safe
[00:41] <soundray> [T]ank: you can't copy video DVDs in the way that ActionParsnip suggests
[00:41] <soundray> [T]ank: try k9copy
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> [T]ank: there may be copy protection
[00:41] <balrog> i keep getting an 'Xlib:  extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display ":1.0"' error when trying to play gridwars
[00:42] <Kattollikisd> Hi, how do I change the folders of my desktop to the right automatic?
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> devo: if it doesnt show up in lspci
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> Kattollikisd: you could move them to the right then lock them in place
[00:43] <Aeosynth> it's telling me i don't have permission to access sudoers
[00:43] <soundray> CoJaBo-Eee: yes
[00:44] <Aeosynth> it has an 'unreadable' emblem
[00:44] <Dreamglider_> ok if i watch the videos not in fullscreen it's ok, but video embedded in firefox is totally messed up
[00:44] <Kattollikisd> ActionParsnip, I can move them, but I don't know how to lock them in place.... can you tell me how?
[00:44] <devo> ActionParsnip: roger.  it's not being recognized.
[00:44] <Dreamglider_> it's like i get one frame every 5 seconds
[00:45] <tyoc> exist a virtual PDF printer for ubuntu?
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> Kattollikisd: right click desktop and you may find they are already locked in place or autoaligning
[00:45] <soundray> Dreamglider_: flash video is poorly optimized -- it needs a faster CPU
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> tyoc: you already have one, select file -> print in your program
[00:45] <soundray> tyoc: yes, there is one by default
[00:46] <tyoc> let me see, because I havent see it...
[00:46] <tyoc> hold a sec
[00:46] <Dreamglider_> damn, so the only thing i can do is get a faster CPU the :|
[00:46] <tyoc> the programm in question is tuxguitar
[00:46] <Aeosynth> so any progress on figuring out how to get my programs (network manager at least) to not ask me for a password?
[00:47] <tyoc> I dont see even where I can configure thos settings of the output printer for this program
[00:47] <tyoc> let me check the others
[00:47] <compengi> Aeosynth, what's the problem in asking for access?
[00:47] <Kattollikisd> someone here know when the ubuntu 8.10 come out?
[00:47] <DasE1> !ibex
[00:47] <soundray> Kattollikisd: 30 Oct
[00:47] <Kattollikisd> soundray, thanks
[00:48] <Aeosynth> It's about convenience. I shouldn't be presented with an 'enter password' screen immediately upon log-in
[00:48] <DasE1> Aeosynth: is yours ?
[00:48] <Aeosynth> yes, the network manager asks me for a pw
[00:48] <soundray> tyoc: go to System-Administration-Printing and make sure that the PDF printer is set to be default. Then tuxguitar should use it automatically.
[00:48] <tyoc> ActionParsnip and soundray Im able to see the option in Firefox, but I dont see it on tuxguitar
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> i like being asked for passwords, means my stuff is secured by decent passwords
[00:49] <tyoc> soundray: thx, I will try that
[00:49] <Stupendoussteve> ActionParsnip, or at least, secured with the word "password"
[00:49] <DasE1> Aeosynth: if you once set it up , static or dhcp, are you using ppoe ?
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> Stupendoussteve: just some security which i can then crank up
[00:49] <Aeosynth> my router is using dhcp
[00:49] <m3thod> what program do u use to rip a dvd
[00:50] <airtonix> RickZilla, still needsome help?
[00:50] <tyoc> soundray: if I dont see the PDF printer? in synaptic, I searched for "pdf virtual" and found cups-pdf but is not installed
[00:50] <soundray> m3thod: k9copy
[00:50] <tyoc> I will try installing that
[00:50] <DasE1> Aeosynth: so if you once set it up to receive dhcp from router, there should be no need for a pw at startup
[00:50] <airtonix> RickZilla, give us the url to the theme your talking about and then i work from the same page as you
[00:50] <soundray> tyoc: it's normally part of a default install -- do you have hardy?
[00:50] <cyd_> hi
[00:51] <Aeosynth> I think the password is to log into my wireless network
[00:51] <tyoc> no, I have 8.10
[00:51] <tyoc> updated today
[00:51] <cyd_> do someone know if it is possible to install a vmguest on kvm/qemu without xorr ?
[00:51] <acalbaza> anyone have samba slowness issues?
[00:51] <bingungaja> why is my firefox always return to offline mode when i restart my ubuntu ? how can i set it to be always online mode ?
[00:51] <airtonix> acalbaza, i've always founf samba to slow
[00:51] <airtonix> found*
[00:51] <soundray> tyoc: is it a regular desktop installation?
[00:51] <bunnyto> whats the app tht installs all the drivers for ATI or Nvidia?
[00:52] <tyoc> soundray, yes it is almost a fresh install
[00:52] <acalbaza> airtonix: ive never seen samba this slow under any other distro... something up with ubuntu?
[00:52] <AkariChan>  quick question, step wise, make menuconfig , then make, make modules_install, make install?
[00:52] <airtonix> acalbaza, start by looking in the logs to see whats going, whilst doing some  samba type operations
[00:52] <soundray> tyoc: I'm surprised that cups-pdf wasn't part of it...
[00:52] <soundray> AkariChan: no
[00:52] <soundray> AkariChan: please follow the advice that ubottu sent you
[00:53] <bunnyto> !nvg
[00:53] <AkariChan> I did.
[00:53] <kitche> bunnyto: well there is restricted manager or envyng(which is unsupported)
[00:53] <tyoc> soundray, perhaps when it is realeased officially
[00:53] <soundray> AkariChan: then you don't need to ask this question
[00:53] <tyoc> ?
[00:53] <Aeosynth> How do I set the network manager applet to automatically receive my password?
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> tyoc: http://www.tuxguitar.com.ar/forum/5/761/printing-problems-with-tuxguitar/
[00:53] <RickZilla> Anybody have a few minutes to show me how to install and use a theme I just downloaded?
[00:53] <soundray> tyoc: I thought you said you updated an existing installation
[00:54] <cription> does anyone else have a problem connecting to a wpa wireless network with ubuntu?
[00:54] <[T]ank> I have installed vlc, libdvdread3 and libdvdnav4. and my movies do not play in vlc. What am i missing?
[00:54] <cyd_> do someone know if it is possible to install a vmguest on kvm/qemu without xorg ?
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> airtonix: mine as slow. i added the hostnames and ips to /etc/hosts which made it a bit better
[00:54] <airtonix> RickZilla, give us the url to the theme your talking about and then i work from the same page as you
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> [T]ank: what file you playing?
[00:54] <kitche> [T]ank: libdvdcss most likely
[00:54] <soundray> tyoc: anyway, this is actually a discussion for #ubuntu+1 -- and it doesn't really matter. Just install cups-pdf and make the PDF printer default.
[00:54] <[T]ank> ActionParsnip: dvd movie
[00:54] <RickZilla> airtonix:  ok, just a sec
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> !dvd
[00:55] <[T]ank> i have libdvdcss2 installed
[00:55] <AkariChan> soundray: reason i asked is beacuse the kernel package in the repository isn't 2.6.27-4
[00:55] <bozz> RickZilla, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=856190&highlight=install+themes
[00:55] <bonhoffer> i am sick of swtiching media players (windows media, winamp, itunes, videolan) what is a good, portable to manage my playlists
[00:55] <AkariChan> and i had to resort tot he old method
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> bonhoffer: banshee or amarok
[00:55] <bonhoffer> so that is another player
[00:56] <dr_willis> bonhoffer,  i like 'songbird' :)
[00:56] <Killer--Tux> hello
[00:56] <bonhoffer> used both before -- looking for a open way to create and maintain a playlist
[00:56] <RickZilla> airtonix:  http://customize.org/gtk/themes/48175
[00:56] <bonhoffer> not really interested in a player -- but a way to manage my files
[00:56] <dr_willis> winamp .pls playlists are loadable in most media players
[00:56] <airtonix> bonhoffer, you need to a bit more descriptive when you say "a good portable to manage you playlists"
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> bonhoffer: amarok uses a library to manage playlists
[00:56] <dr_willis> bonhoffer,  not sure what you mean by 'manage'
[00:56] <t3ddY> whoohoo, i fixed the sound volume slider problem :)
[00:56] <bonhoffer> sorry, i want a open standard to keep my playlists in
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> t3ddY: what did you do?
[00:56] <[T]ank> I also have all of the gstreamer plugins installed
[00:57] <t3ddY> ActionParsnip, sudo apt-get install module-assistant
[00:57] <t3ddY> sudo m-a a-i alsa-source
[00:57] <kitche> bonhoffer: well .pls is what most players use
[00:57] <bonhoffer> an xml format if you will that will allow me to quickly convert to any player's format with ruby or perl, etc
[00:57] <bonhoffer> kitche, oh, exactly
[00:57] <soundray> [T]ank: have you tried different DVDs?
[00:57] <[T]ank> yeah
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> [T]ank: have you tried installing w32codecs
[00:57] <bonhoffer> that is what i am looking for . . . the right way to set up a playlist
[00:57] <t3ddY> that's it, currently there is a version missmatch of alsamixer for our soundcard....
[00:57] <airtonix> RickZilla, looking at it now..for a start open up these two folders in seperate windows : ~/.icons & ~/.themes (if they dont exist, create them)
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> t3ddY: im on an onboard realtek thing on an nvidia based bored
[00:58] <airtonix> RickZilla, oo this is a nice theme :)..downloading
[00:58] <t3ddY> ActionParsnip, me 2 :)
[00:58] <soundray> bonhoffer: most players can deal with plain file lists -- one file per line, either absolute paths or relative to the location of the playlist file.
[00:58] <t3ddY> ActionParsnip, the problem was in the beta release and also in the offical release...
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> t3ddY: sweet you got a resolve
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> t3ddY: i got sound so im happy :)
[00:58] <bonhoffer> is there a tool to create pls files or plain flie list files that is not tied to a player?
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> bonhoffer: ls can do it
[00:59] <RickZilla> airtonix:  Yep, I agree...ok, done
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> bonhoffer: ls *.mp3 > playlist.m3u
[00:59] <Dar1us> pls files are just text with filenames in them
[00:59] <Dar1us> use find
[00:59] <bonhoffer> ls -- you mean the shell script?
[00:59] <bonhoffer> ok
[00:59] <t3ddY> ActionParsnip, i will resolve the bug, so it will be in the next version, so we have a cool volume dialog thingy :)
[00:59] <airtonix> RickZilla, ok next step is to unpack the tar.gz we downloaded...the desktop is a good enough target for this
[00:59] <soundray> bonhoffer: any editor, or ls as ActionParsnip suggests, or find if you have them in a folder hierarchy
[00:59] <jramsey> anyone know what pkg i need to play yahoo games? it whines about not have java enabled, but it is in firefox
[00:59] <RickZilla> ok, I've done that
[00:59] <soundray> bonhoffer: ls isn't a shell script
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> bonhoffer: no, you can do the same in windows too but idiots spend money or need apps to make these mystical playlists
[01:00] <airtonix> RickZilla, inside is a gtk & a metacity package...
[01:00] <kitche> !java > jramsey
[01:00] <bonhoffer> yeah -- i like using find  ... soundray, is ls compiled
[01:00] <airtonix> RickZilla, those have to be unpacked there too
[01:00] <RickZilla> ok
[01:00] <RickZilla> unpacked to the desktop?
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> bonhoffer: ls is a standard command like cp
[01:00] <airtonix> RickZilla, once you got that done, move into the gtk folder and highlight them all. and copy them
[01:01] <airtonix> RickZilla, then goto your ~/.themes folder you had open previously
[01:01] <soundray> bonhoffer: ls is an ELF binary
[01:01] <airtonix> RickZilla, and paste there
[01:01] <bonhoffer> ActionParsnip, yeah, the question was  .. . yep an ELF binary . . . got it
[01:01] <bonhoffer> thanks all
[01:01] <jramsey> kitche: do i have to restart firefox after loading the jre pkg?
[01:01] <bonhoffer> perfect answers . . . cool
[01:01] <IrcNet>  
[01:01] <bozz> could anyone advise on a secure, fast, open source client app for windoze other than remote desktop for access ubuntu server remotely
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> bozz: ssh
[01:02] <mabes> anyone here setup asterisk on ubuntu?  just wondering if the debian/ubuntu packages will do the trick or if I should compile from source
[01:02] <IrcNet> bozz vnc
[01:02] <soundray> bozz: putty
[01:02] <aantn> what should ACLOCAL_FLAGS be set to on Ubuntu?
[01:02] <favio> Holas
[01:02] <airtonix> RickZilla, repeat the same operation on the Metacity&Xfwm tar.gz (unpack, move into it, copy the three folders in it to : ~/.themes )
[01:02] <douglas> Hello world!
[01:02] <RickZilla> airtonix:  So, those 3 folders go into the .themes folder
[01:03] <soundray> !hi | douglas
[01:03] <airtonix> RickZilla, they go to : ~/.themes
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> IrcNet: vnc isnt encrypted, but it can if you run it over ssh tunnel
[01:03] <bozz> thankyou all, are ssh and vnc one in the same
[01:03] <airtonix> RickZilla, which is a hidden folder in your home folder
[01:03] <douglas> soundray, :)
[01:03] <soundray> bozz: no
[01:03] <douglas> ubottu, thanx
[01:03] <favio> español?
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> bozz: ssh will give you a secure command line based connection to your system
[01:03] <RickZilla> ok, they're there
[01:03] <soundray> !es | favio
[01:04] <favio> ok! gracias ubottu
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> bozz: vnc gives you a gui interface
[01:04] <bozz> ActionParsnip: was looking for a GUI based connection
[01:04] <airtonix> RickZilla, now there are some other files provided with that package : three emerald window themes and three gnome-menu button icons
[01:04] <RickZilla> ok
[01:04] <bozz> ActionParsnip: ;-)
[01:04] <airtonix> RickZilla, do you use emerald?
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> bozz: but its not encrypted so id implement some security for it like an ssh tunnel or vpn
[01:05] <airtonix> RickZilla, and do you have compizconfig-settings-manager installed?
[01:05] <RickZilla> I don't know about either of those
[01:05] <RickZilla> Sorry, fairly new to ubuntu here
[01:06] <thetrav> ahoy hoy.  I've just re-installed XP on my dual boot machine, and it's wiped out the boot selection screen (GRUB?) how do I get it back?
[01:06] <airtonix> RickZilla, simple test do your windows have shadows underneath them? do they wobble when you move them? do thay fade out when you close them?
[01:06] <EatShrooms> hey folks, I was wondering if you could help with portforwarding my wireless router: netgear WGR614?
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> !grub | thetrav
[01:06] <RickZilla> Nope
[01:06] <soundray> thetrav: follow the RecoveringUbuntu... instructions ^^
[01:06] <airtonix> all: i'm sure there is an easier way to tell if someone is running compiz
[01:06] <bozz> ActionParsnip: thanks for your help, i need to do more reading.
[01:06] <thetrav> Parsnip, thanks, that's exactly what I'm after
[01:07] <airtonix> RickZilla, for now open up (main menu) System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> EatShrooms: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Netgear/WGR614/default.htm
[01:07] <bozz> soundray: thanks
[01:07] <douglas> Guys how come ubottu talk to us so fluently if it's just a bot?
[01:07] <Skel> hi
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> douglas: its coded by a human
[01:07] <airtonix> douglas, same reason a book does
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> !bot | douglas
[01:07] <Skel> i really need some help :(
[01:07] <EatShrooms> thanks
[01:07] <RickZilla> airtonix:  I can install  compizconfig-settings-manager real quick if you need me to
[01:08] <pipegeek> Skel: ask yr question
[01:08] <soundray> douglas: open a pm session with /msg ubottu bot and find out how fluent it really is...
[01:08] <airtonix> RickZilla, good idea, but do that after this step
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: don't its made by the devil
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> !compiz | RickZilla
[01:08] <ari_stress> hi ubottu, morning
[01:09] <airtonix> RickZilla, once you have the appearance gui open click the customize button down the bottom
[01:09] <RickZilla> ok, done
[01:09] <airtonix> RickZilla, first tab is the gtk, so in there should be the mire themes we installed.
[01:09] <dasickis> does anyone know how to get egalax drivers working with ubuntu?
[01:09] <RickZilla> airtonix:  going back a step, what goes into that .icons folder?
[01:10] <douglas> soundray, I'm gonna do it :)
[01:10] <mn> Why won't my optical drive detect any blank media?!
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> dasickis: is it a touchscreen?
[01:10] <EdLin> does anyone have the dell mini 9? I'm wondering what differences there are between the dell distro, the netbook remix, and the regular distro.
[01:10] <airtonix> RickZilla, thats for any icon themes that may have been included ... but there werent any so its not important right now
[01:10] <cads> Hello
[01:11] <soundray> !hi | cads
[01:11] <RickZilla> ok...the mire themes aren't there
[01:11] <cads> I was wondering if anyone here would like to sort of give me a few impressions that they've gotten from running ubuntu in windows using the VMware program
[01:11] <airtonix> RickZilla, they start with the word murrine
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> dasickis: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=463300
[01:11] <Skel> Hello, an update to interpid has appeared to brick my ethernet......
[01:11] <mn> anyone?
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> !intrepid | Skel
[01:12] <airtonix> RickZilla, MurrinaMirev2-blue for example
[01:12] <Skel> haha well i am on hardy
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> Skel: it broke it because its still being developed and tested
[01:12] <Skel> and still no internet
[01:12] <RickZilla> wait, there it is...got it...should that background pic be inluded?
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> Skel: if you run lspci you will see what network hardware you have and yuo can websearch from there
[01:13] <soundray> cads: I had difficulty installing it, until I downloaded a pre-made thing (I think they call it an appliance). From then on, it was a pretty smooth experience. 3D support was poor at the time, but that may have changed.
[01:13] <balrog> I keep getting a 'appstub.linux signal handler 11' error when starting gridwars.  any help?
[01:13] <Skel> Hardy fresh install no internet, when previously i had internet with a fresh install
[01:13] <airtonix> RickZilla, no, gtk doesnt describe background images. but if you notice that the tabs up the top have an option labeled window border (which is metacity) you will find three matching Mire windows themes there
[01:13] <Skel> hmmm...
[01:13] <mn> !burn
[01:14] <airtonix> RickZilla, if that theme author were to provide a wallpaper it would be alongside those emerald themes and menu icons, not pack inside the gtk or metacity tar.gz
[01:14] <douglas> MSG
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> Skel: if its a fresh install of intrepid then head to +1
[01:15] <ajhtiredwolf> hey i deleted something as root, it doesnt seem to have moved to the trash in my regular account ,and root doesnt ahve a trash folder as far as i know, it didnt completely delete because my freespace is the same, know where it might ahve gone?
[01:15] <quentusrex_> Does anyone know how to get widgets for Gnome?
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> !trash | ajhtiredwolf
[01:15] <quentusrex_> 'Widgets' are the windows name for them.
[01:15] <RickZilla> ok
[01:15] <RickZilla> airtonix:  ok
[01:15] <soundray> douglas: it's /msg nickname message  (try  /msg soundray Hi )
[01:16] <airtonix> quentusrex_, screenlets (which require compositor) or gnome-applets ?
[01:16] <cads> soundray, thanks for that
[01:16] <airtonix> RickZilla, all good now ?
[01:16] <ajhtiredwolf> quentusrex_, screenlets is a good ap for gnome
[01:16] <quentusrex_> which is better? gnome-applets or screenlets?
[01:16] <ajhtiredwolf> quentusrex, screenlets
[01:16] <airtonix> quentusrex, they do different things
[01:16] <cads> soundray: I too have decided that an appliance may be the easiest route
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> quentusrex_: both have advantages
[01:17] <Alver> Hello. I'm trying to connect to my WPA-protected wifi at home; the network manager applet shows my access point, but there is no "WPA" option in the encryption dropdown, only WEP... how can I enable WPA? wpasupplicant is installed.
[01:17] <RickZilla> airtonix:  Except for the background image...you don't see it in there anywhere?
[01:17] <ajhtiredwolf> ActionParsnip, thanks
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> !wpa | Alver
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> Alver: you need the wpa supplicant
[01:17] <airtonix> RickZilla, yeah your going to have to trek back to the website where we downloaded the theme from and see if someone has linked to the actual background image....often the theme authors dont include that
[01:18] <Dreamglider_> would 1.67Ghz be enough to get the video to play with out jerking ?
[01:18] <quentusrex_> ActionParsnip: What are the differences? I'm about to convert a windows user to Ubuntu if I can replace their widgets.
[01:18] <RickZilla> airtonix:  Gotcha, thanks a ton for the help
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider_: works for me :)
[01:18] <airtonix> RickZilla, that website however, has some great wallpapers
[01:18] <ajhtiredwolf> ActionParsnip, the files dont appaer to be there either though
[01:18] <Dreamglider_> allright.
[01:18] <Dreamglider_> brb.
[01:18] <soundray> Dreamglider_: what kind of CPU?
[01:18] <Dreamglider_> an amd athlon
[01:18] <soundray> Dreamglider_: overclocked?
[01:18] <airtonix> RickZilla, btw those tabs uptop of the appearance gui
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> quentusrex_: aeshetically its pretty much the same deal, difference is their is a large codebase for many more screenlets for linux
[01:19] <EatShrooms> how can I figure out if I have a static IP or a dynamic one?
[01:19] <Dreamglider_> no it's the normal speed
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> EatShrooms: ifconfig
[01:19] <mn> eatshrooms: what kind of internet you have?
[01:19] <Dreamglider_> it's an and athlon xp 2000+
[01:19] <EatShrooms> cable
[01:19] <Dreamglider_> amd*
[01:19] <Omeil> ActionParsnip, I get around 9 FPS is orgrimmar but in closed areas 40FPS
[01:19] <Omeil> in*
[01:20] <soundray> Dreamglider_: I think you'll notice a difference -- whether it works well for fullscreen video depends on the video resolution and your screen resolution.
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider_: im on an amd semperon64 3000 soc am2
[01:20] <airtonix> RickZilla, controls = ~/.themes , window borders = ~/.themes , icons = ~/.icons
[01:20] <Dreamglider_> ill give it a try. Brb.
[01:20] <soundray> ActionParsnip: that's still a different ballpark
[01:20] <Dreamglider_> sudo reboot
[01:20] <Dreamglider_> ups.
[01:20] <soundray> :)
[01:21] <airtonix> RickZilla, and if you go back a step by closing that window, you will see theme, background, fonts , etc ,etc .... the fonts tab will list any fonts you put in ~/.fonts
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> soundray: well he's been brainwashed by intel
[01:21] <soundray> ActionParsnip: why?
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> soundray: mhz != speed
[01:21] <ajhtiredwolf> ActionParsnip, do you know anywhere else deleted files might be stored?
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> ajhtiredwolf: did you use sudo rm?
[01:22] <airtonix> Omeil, unless you have some good hardware that is well supported by the video companies, wow isnt going to run well for you.
[01:22] <Alver> ActionParsnip: I *have* network-manager and its gnome applet installed, and wpasupplicant also
[01:22] <ajhtiredwolf> ActionParsnip, i was being stupid, i had nautalus opened as root
[01:22] <extor> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081011170633AAnmi8Y  <--- What a noob! LOL
[01:22] <Alver> ActionParsnip: still, WPA does not show up in the list
[01:22] <Omeil> airtonix, Im on 2.66GHZ Celeron D, 1.5GB 400mhz DDR Ram and ATI HD2600 Pro Turbo
[01:22] <kitche> !offtopic > extor
[01:22] <soundray> ActionParsnip: in the case of Athlon CPUs, it's roughly linear though
[01:22] <Omeil> airtonix, 512MB srry :)
[01:23] <airtonix> Omeil, i have a coreduo 2.3ghz 2gbram (800mhzddr3), nvidia8800gt and in wine i get around 40fps in shattrah
[01:23] <extor> Christ this is just a JOKE
[01:23] <airtonix> Omeil, your system only has 512mb ram?
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> Alver: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[01:23] <RickZilla> airtonix:  That's good info to have...I can't open up those other folders, btw
[01:23] <ajhtiredwolf> I remember when 512 mb of ram was allot :p
[01:23] <airtonix> RickZilla, you will have to make them
[01:23] <Omeil> airtonix, na memory for vidcard, ram 1.5GB
[01:24] <RickZilla> airtonix:  No, the folders that were originally unzipped
[01:24] <airtonix> Omeil, ok your cpu and your video card look to be the bottle necks...blizzard recommend you use a coreduo
[01:24] <zeno> how do i get nautilus to apply permissions recursively?
[01:24] <RickZilla> Guess I'm not used to not having permission to open up folders
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> zeno: i know how to do it at cli only, sorry
[01:25] <Omeil> airtonix, so could my CPU be limiting the performance ofmy vid card?
[01:25] <Delvien> airtonix what?
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> zeno chmod -R <permisions> <folder>
[01:25] <zeno> ActionParsnip: oh ok :\ how to make it so that "andrew" can do everything but "rob" just list/access files, and everybody else but root nothing
[01:26] <airtonix> Omeil, yes...but only because the video drivers in linux are not optmised for your card ... i bet if you were to return to windows wow would run fine
[01:26] <CorbinFox> are there any text to speech apps for ubuntu? my searches in the add/remove have failed me
[01:26] <airtonix> CorbinFox, you have one by default
[01:27] <airtonix> CorbinFox, install aoss first thought, then run : aoss espeak test
[01:27] <CorbinFox> will do
[01:27] <Omeil> airtonix, yeah actually 35 Average in orgrimmar, rather play in ubuntu tho :(, WoW is the only thing keeping me from moving over totally
[01:27] <bunnyto> hwo to install adobe flash player?
[01:27] <soundray> zeno: 'sudo chown -R andrew.staff /path/folder ; sudo adduser rob staff ; sudo chmod -R 750 /path/folder'
[01:27] <zeno> soundray: thanks
[01:27] <soundray> bunnyto: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> soundray: was just on that, you type faster than me
[01:27] <extor> Can someone tell me if anything in /etc/fstab here would cause my system to be slow as molasses: http://i38.tinypic.com/344cac1.png
[01:28] <soundray> zeno: this assumes that a group staff already exists
[01:28] <airtonix> Omeil, unfortunatly your going to have to dual boot if your cant afford to get a at least a 8800gt and a coreduo...my system only set me back about 650 australian dollars
[01:28] <bunnyto> im a Superior 64 bits user, does that works for me?
[01:28] <airtonix> Omeil, i assume your not running compiz while playing wow too?
[01:28] <soundray> bunnyto: yes
[01:29] <Alver> Oh, no wonder. The card itself doesn't support WPA.
[01:29] <airtonix> Omeil, you also have the option of running somethig like openbox to minimise overhead from ubuntu instead of gnome
[01:29] <ruicastro> boas
[01:30] <Omeil> airtonix, what part fro aus u from?
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> zeno: that makes andrew the owner and puts rob in the same group. rob is in the same group as andrew but not the owner so will have list and read access and everyone else gets nothing. root will always have access
[01:30] <airtonix> RickZilla, can you explain that to me again please? you cant access those folders because you dont have permission?
[01:30] <airtonix> Omeil, im in adelaide
[01:30] <Omeil> airtonix, QLD here
[01:30] <loois> can someone tell me why this shell script doesn't work? http://rafb.net/p/6juH5j28.html
[01:31] <inasmu> loois: what error are you getting?
[01:31] <airtonix> Omeil, msy have a stor up there now....head down to them and check out their prices, i reckon they will be cheaper than when i bought my parts
[01:31] <airtonix> Omeil, msy.com.au i think
[01:31] <zeno> ActionParsnip: ok makes sense,thank you
[01:31] <RickZilla> I'm not sure what you call it...it doesn't just let me open up the folder and see what's inside
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> loois: i think you need if [ $var='1' ]
[01:31] <IntuitiveNipple> loois: Your tests are not for equality
[01:32] <loois> inasmu, i get this error http://rafb.net/p/Gejfx666.html
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> loois: and you need ==
[01:32] <OneTB> I am getting a "Failure to mount cdrom" while installing xubuntu 8.10 from a usb.  anyone know anything about that?
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> loois: not =
[01:32] <loois> damn i knew it
[01:32] <loois> i saw some tut and it only had 1 =
[01:32] <loois> -_-
[01:32] <airtonix> RickZilla, where is this folder? in your home folder? because any path prefixed with tilda is going to be in your home folder usually...
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> loois: = is an assignment, == is a comparison
[01:32] <loois> ActionParsnip, thanks makes sense now. so shell script is similar to c :)
[01:32] <RickZilla> THe one I initially unzipped to the desktop
[01:32] <Omeil> airtonix, thx il have a look, its time to move over to the duo side anyways :) might go quad
[01:32] <inasmu> loois: thats not an error, it just means your webserver wasn't stopped, so when you tried to start it it complained
[01:32] <IntuitiveNipple> loois: for numbers, use [ $var -eq 1 ]
[01:33] <airtonix> Omeil, good idea
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> loois: lots
[01:33] <RickZilla> airtonix
[01:33] <loois> thanks everyone
[01:33] <RickZilla> airtonix:  Inside MireV2
[01:33] <inasmu> loois: it has nothing to do with the shell script, its just a result of running /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[01:33] <loois> inasmu, well actionparsnip pointed out my evaluation wasn't properly configured
[01:34] <Omeil> airtonix, wow they really need to change the layout of there website :D
[01:34] <airtonix> RickZilla, strange...i usually use the right click menu to extract files and i didnt get those problem
[01:34] <IntuitiveNipple> loois: = *is* a valid test comparision (for string values) in bash.
[01:34] <loois> inasmu, it makes sense because it would only properly execute if I only had 1 check
[01:34] <airtonix> Omeil, they ought contract the mootools team to make it for them
[01:34] <OneTB> ﻿I am getting a "Failure to mount cdrom" while installing xubuntu 8.10 from a usb.  anyone know anything about that?
[01:34] <Anti-Christ> Whats the best way of ripping an ISO image off a cd.? I have downloaded and .iso image of a distro,put it on a cd, but now want to take it off
[01:34] <loois> IntuitiveNipple, when doing a read , is it always a string return?
[01:34] <RickZilla> airtonix:  Ok...like I said, I'm still new to this Linux thing, so I'm probably doing something wrong
[01:34] <inasmu> loois: yeah, I'm sorry I misunderstood the problem
[01:35] <airtonix> Omeil, and i notice they just won 6million dollars in a court case about wowglider...but we wont see au servers still...
[01:35] <DrErling> what version of ALSA comes with ubuntu 8.04LTS? I have a AD1988B chipset (onboard soundcard) that doesnt show up after typing "aplay -l".
[01:35] <loois> inasmu, it's okay i appreciate your help :)
[01:35] <pipegeek> Anti-Christ: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=image.iso
[01:35] <IntuitiveNipple> loois: bash doesn't type things... if it looks like a number it can be tested as a number :)
[01:35] <Anti-Christ> RickZilla, what you need help with?
[01:35] <loois> sweet :D
[01:35] <Anti-Christ> pipegeek, thanks
[01:35] <loois> it works great now haha
[01:35] <IntuitiveNipple> loois: read the 3rd line down... http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/varassignment.html
[01:35] <harriman> Hello where might I find information (other than https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro) on issues with triple booting on my macbook pro?
[01:35] <Omeil> airtonix, I just hate telstra atm they are gonna kill ISDN and thats what i am on now, i will have ot move to there really expensive nextG wireless service
[01:36] <OneTB> ﻿I am getting a "Failure to mount cdrom" while installing xubuntu 8.10 from a usb.  anyone know anything about that?
[01:36] <airtonix> Omeil, move to internode, they have a low latency gateway for wow
[01:36] <pipegeek> Anti-Christ: np.
[01:36] <airtonix> Omeil, so does adam internet
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> !intrepid | OneTB
[01:36] <Omeil> airtonix, don't think they have service for my area im around 100k's away from brisbane
[01:36] <airtonix> Omeil, but this is offtopic here :) #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:36] <Anti-Christ> RickZilla?
[01:36] <airtonix> Omeil, you would be surprised
[01:36] <pipegeek> OneTB: possible your cd has errors
[01:37] <OneTB> no cd in drive, I think it is an fstab error, but thats as far as my ideas go
[01:37] <airtonix> RickZilla, i think amybe you were trying to unzip the emerald files or open them ?
[01:37] <Omeil> airtonix, Woopsy :)
[01:38] <DrErling> what version of ALSA comes with ubuntu 8.04LTS? I have a AD1988B chipset (onboard soundcard) that doesnt show up after typing "aplay -l".
[01:39] <Anti-Christ> pipegeek, hm, it only seems to grab 33mb of the disc wich is 600mb
[01:39] <IntuitiveNipple> loois: To explain *why* your original test didn't work... you would need to have tested the quote marks too, i.e. [ '$var'='1' ] *but* single-qoites prevent bash from expanding any variables (the $var) *so* you would have used double-quotes, i.e. [ "$var"="1" ] *but*, if "$var" had been empty that would have become *no characters at all* - not even the quotes, so you'd have done [ "x$var"="x1" ]
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> DrErling: http://rafb.net/p/GBARu844.html
[01:40] <pipegeek> Anti-Christ: I don't know why that's happening---the command is certainly correct, but it's possible that it died due to a bad read
[01:40] <pipegeek> do you have more than one cdrom drive?
[01:40] <Anti-Christ> pipegeek, ya that could be, nope, only one
[01:40] <pipegeek> give it another shot.  Does it die at a different point?
[01:40] <loois> IntuitiveNipple, thanks for the explanation :)
[01:40] <IntuitiveNipple> loois: Hence, [ $var -eq 1 ] is much clearer
[01:41] <RickZilla> airtonix:  Open them, yes
[01:41] <Anti-Christ> pipegeek, I erase the image file, start the command again, and it takes a second to finsih with the same outcome
[01:41] <loois> IntuitiveNipple, yeah it is. Saves the hassle with quotes ;o
[01:41] <zeno> ActionParsnip: does the order of teh commands matter? chmod and chown
[01:41] <Anti-Christ> pipegeek, maybe take the folders off the disc then combine it to a .iso?
[01:41] <airtonix> RickZilla, ok the emerald theme files are just xml files i think...
[01:41] <DrErling> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[01:41] <airtonix> RickZilla, ergo ascii test files
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> Anti-Christ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[01:41] <pipegeek> Anti-Christ: it's *possible* that the disk is in bad shape.  But no, it's not that simple to build a new iso
[01:41] <airtonix> text*
[01:42] <Anti-Christ> pipegeek, hehe ok, Ill just dl a new one then :) thanks
[01:42] <pipegeek> but yeah, if there's an error on the disk, then you don't want the image either
[01:42] <pipegeek> sorry
[01:42] <IntuitiveNipple> loois: If you look at bullet-proof bash scripts that test 'strings' they always prefix the string with a known character ("x" by convention" and have it in the comparision too ("x1") so if the first string evaluates to empty the test is still valid ("x" = "x1")
[01:42] <Delvien> Omeil you still there?
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> Anti-Christ: use md5 to test the image is good
[01:42] <Anti-Christ> ActionParsnip, would work but Im using a different distro inside a vm
[01:42] <Anti-Christ> ActionParsnip, ya I can do that
[01:42] <ubuntu_> is there a dock that doesn't need a composite manager? As I am running ubuntu in vmware I can't use any kind of composite manager, that I know of
[01:42] <jools1988> Hey I'm having a problem with alsa and flash. I have alsa (and alsa-oss) installed and working with libflashsupport, im using flash 10 with firefox 3. I can hear music and watch videos on rythombox and vlc but i still can't hear sound on flash. Anyone have any ideas?
[01:42] <ech0dish> hello
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> Anti-Christ: putting the iso on the usb is still the same
[01:43] <Dreamglider_> where can i see how fast the CPU is running ?
[01:43] <pipegeek> Anti-Christ: can you point the vm at the actual cd drive?
[01:43] <zeno> Does the order of chmod and chown commands matter?
[01:43] <ech0dish> i have a dell poweredge 2500, and was wondering how i should go about installing ubuntu on it?
[01:43] <bttb> Dreamglider_: /proc/cpuinfo
[01:43] <pipegeek> zeno: no
[01:43] <ech0dish> it has two processors and i want to be sure it utilizes both of them
[01:43] <Anti-Christ> pipegeek, yes, but Id rather use the image instead of the drive
[01:43] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: server or alternate install disks
[01:43] <ech0dish> is there a special distribution i should use
[01:43] <zeno> Dreamglider_: syesem -> admin -> gnome system monitor
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider_: cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/performance
[01:43] <Anti-Christ> ActionParsnip, I have the md5, how can I check it against the cd?
[01:43] <CJ-Master> nah
[01:43] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: although, the desktop liveCD installer will work just as well
[01:43] <pipegeek> Anti-Christ: I'd recommend seeing if you can find an md5sum of the image as it's supposed to be from the distro's site, and comparing it to the output of 'md5sum /dev/cdrom'
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | Anti-Christ
[01:44] <pipegeek> haha, jinx
[01:44] <ech0dish> it will detect both processors?
[01:44] <ubuntu_> is there a dock that doesn't need a composite manager? As I am running ubuntu in vmware I can't use any kind of composite manager, that I know of
[01:44] <ech0dish> i would prefer to use the desktop version
[01:44] <Anti-Christ> pipegeek, Im going to try that now
[01:44] <ech0dish> because i will use it as a desktop also
[01:44] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: If you want the server to have the X windows system and gnome on it, then use the Desktop Live CD
[01:44] <michaelklinckibu> i need some help. when i try to open up Mozilla Firefox it says: Starting Mozilla Firefox. and then just stops and exits the program. help?
[01:44] <CJ-Master> Busy channel :P
[01:44] <pipegeek> hehe
[01:44] <Dreamglider_> heh non of those work.
[01:44] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: You can always install an alternative kernel package later, if you want to.
[01:44] <ech0dish> ok was just curious because i haven't installed on a system with 2 different processors
[01:44] <CJ-Master> michal, is it already running on the other screen?
[01:45] <pipegeek> michaelklinckibu, open a terminal and type firefox there.  Lemme know what it outputs, if anything
[01:45] <michaelklinckibu> cj-master: no its not
[01:45] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: I install/run it on a PowerEdge with 4 CPUs
[01:45] <CJ-Master> hmm.
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> michaelklinckibu: id rename ~/.mozilla then rerun it
[01:45] <ech0dish> did you need a different kernel?
[01:45] <CJ-Master> I'd just try restarting the computer.
[01:45] <ech0dish> this is an old file server i got from a computer giving away it's surplus it equipment
[01:45] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: No
[01:46] <yodabunny> How do I set my wired network connection to default to on, instead of having to tell the applet to connect everytime I reboot?
[01:46] <ech0dish> has a bunch of hard drives
[01:46] <ech0dish> i believe a few 320gb's and some 160gb's
[01:46] <Stormx2> michaelklinckibu, have you tried opening it in a terminal?
[01:46] <michaelklinckibu> pipegeek: its says there are no GRE verisons between 1.9.01-1.9.0.*
[01:46] <pipegeek> aha.  Sounds like it's not properly installed (GRE == Gecko Runtime Environment, which is the core of firefox)
[01:47] <ech0dish> ok cool, cause i know on winblows if you install just xp on a computer with multiple processors it will only utilize one processor
[01:47] <michaelklinckibu> so how do i fix it?
[01:47] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: The only issue you might have (with any recent Linux version) is the aacraid drivers for the PERC RAID controllers... I had to build a work-around fix for that, but this was more than 6 months ago... my fix has gone upstream now
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> ech0dish: i think pro can
[01:47] <Stormx2> michaelklinckibu, Open it in terminal, see what the problem is :/
[01:47] <pipegeek> michaelklinckibu, in that terminal, type 'sudo aptitude install --reinstall firefox'
[01:47] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: Not true about Windows... the standard license for Windows supports dual CPUs
[01:47] <bttb> How can I see the kernel configuration of Ubuntu?
[01:47] <pipegeek> oh, whoops
[01:47] <pipegeek> michaelklinckibu, I meant 'aptitude reinstall firefox'
[01:47] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: It's the 'home' license that restricted CPUs for Windows, I think
[01:48] <ech0dish> i did it before with one and it only detected the first processor
[01:48] <ech0dish> with xp
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> pipegeek: you'll need sudo for that
[01:48] <xiamx> witch desktop has less cpu and mem usage,  i tried xfce, but it's still slow sometimes
[01:48] <ech0dish> ah ok, i think i used home
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> ech0dish: which version of xp?
[01:48] <pipegeek> ActionParsnip, yepyep.  Notice I included it the first time around
[01:48] <airtonix> xiamx, i like openbox for minimal
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> xiamx: fluxbox is fantastic
[01:48] <Stormx2> xiamx: XFCE will be quickest out of XKCE, GNOME and KDE. But there are others, fluxbox, for example
[01:48] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: That would be possibly because Windows didn't install the ACPI based kernel - if it fell back to the uniprocessor kernel image
[01:49] <edo226> Hi everyone! I'm looking for help about upnp/dlna on ubuntu (Elisa/Totem...), anyone could help me¿?
[01:49] <michaelklinckibu> pipegeek: this message comes up. E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> ech0dish: yeah home does do it i believe
[01:49] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: but, with Ubuntu, you should be fine if you've got the PERC RAID controller set-up for hardware RAID
[01:49] <pipegeek> xiamx: depends what you want.  fluxbox is awesome, but minimal... windowmaker is kind of nifty... if you want to check out something really cool but with a high learning curve, checkout tiling window managers like xmonad
[01:49] <airtonix> xiamx, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Openbox
[01:49] <xiamx> thx gays, for your advise
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> IntuitiveNipple: gotta love proper raid :)
[01:49] <pipegeek> michaelklinckibu, sorry, meant to prepend 'sudo' to all that.  You need to be root
[01:49] <ech0dish> i know it's a dell poweredge 2500, has 2, p3 1ghz processors and i think either 2gb or 4gb of ram
[01:50] <pipegeek> michaelklinckibu, sudo aptitude reinstall firefox
[01:50] <michaelklinckibu> ok
[01:50] <Dreamglider_> it didn't help one bit on the jerky video :/
[01:50] <xiamx> But, is openbox  easier to setup or fluxbox?
[01:50] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: The PowerEdge I use, it has 4 Xeon CPUs, 6 hot-swap SCSI disks on the PERC 2 controller, 4GB RAM, 3 PSUs, etc. etc. and Desktop installs just as well as -server or -alternate
[01:50] <dr_willis> xiamx,  abou the same.. read the docs for both.
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> xiamx: i recommend fluxbox but thats cos i use it
[01:50] <pipegeek> michaelklinckibu, if you'd prefer, you can also open Synaptic Package Manager from the system menu, right click, reinstall
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> xiamx: try both, see whch you prefer
[01:50] <pipegeek> same deal
[01:50] <michaelklinckibu> pipegeek: now this message comes up. E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:50] <xiamx> ActionParsnip: ok thx
[01:50] <ech0dish> i know it has a raid controller of some kind
[01:50] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: oh and a DLT tape drive and a 5 SCIS controllers -all work
[01:50] <pipegeek> cool
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> xiamx: sudo apt-get install fluxbox then logoff and change session type
[01:51] <pipegeek> michaelklinckibu, do that, but as root
[01:51] <pipegeek> ie, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:51] <ech0dish> yeah this one has a tape drive, i think 6 SCSI drives
[01:51] <m0niker> fluxbox is easy
[01:51] <ech0dish> cd rom and floppy
[01:51] <pipegeek> dpkg was left in a bad state at some point
[01:51] <pipegeek> yes, fluxbox is easy as pie, and pretty
[01:51] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: If you get the Dell Service Tag off the chassis, you can look up the exact original system specification when that unit was shipped, on the Dell Support site
[01:51] <xiamx> ActionParsnip: trying it out now  hehe
[01:51] <pipegeek> I used it on a 486 for a long time :)
[01:52] <ech0dish> it's made for windows 2000 server
[01:52] <ech0dish> but i really don't want to go with that
[01:52] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: No, that's just marketing stuff so Microsoft paid Dell $$$s
[01:52] <Dreamglider_> oh actualy it did, but not when there is a fast scene. it still tends to drag a bit
[01:53] <ech0dish> well i can tell that they have added additional hard drives to the unit
[01:53] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: Dell shipped Linux on the same servers, and support it for servers, but kept it quiet to keepp MS happy
[01:53] <ech0dish> cool :)
[01:53] <Anti-Christ> how else can I force umount a device,  umount -f isnt getting the job done
[01:53] <gkffjcs> whois gkffjcs
[01:53] <ech0dish> anyone here from houston?
[01:53] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: One top... giving the thing a strip-down and blow-out with an air-compressor can be a great move on older servers... give it a new lease of life :)
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> Anti-Christ: sudo umount -f /mount/point
[01:54] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: s/top/tip/
[01:54] <Anti-Christ> ActionParsnip, i did that
[01:54] <xiamx> it's kinda wierd that sometimes when i work with gui,  Xorg often eat a huge percentage of CPU usage
[01:54] <pipegeek> Anti-Christ: Well, you can do a lazy unmount, but that's not always a good idea.  Check what's using it with lsof +D/path/to/mountpoint
[01:54] <ech0dish> yeah i don't have an air compressor lol
[01:54] <pipegeek> see if you can close everything that's using it first
[01:54] <ech0dish> but it is clean
[01:54] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: blow hard lol
[01:54] <Anti-Christ> pipegeek, k
[01:54] <pipegeek> and unmount normally
[01:54] <ech0dish> whoever managed it kept it in good shape
[01:54] <lopin> Hello!  I need some help with some OEM configuration, such as Setting the Default Theme, Colors, etc.  Can anyone tell me where the Global Configuration Files are?
[01:54] <yodabunny> How do I set my wired network connection to default to on, instead of having to tell the applet to connect everytime I reboot?
[01:54] <mouser-> Hi, I'm having trouble mounting an NTFS drive from the ubuntu live CD.  It's saying "Cannot mount volume - $log file indicates unclean shutdown.  Operation not supported because the device is in use."
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> Anti-Christ: are there any files open on the device
[01:55] <bzrk> lopin: /etc
[01:55] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: build-up on the CPU fans, the RAID fans, and the PSUs can be subtle but affect the system quite remarkably. I blow-out this one yearly.
[01:55] <lopin> bzrk, Specifically, the Default Gnome Theme, and Icon set Configuration Files?
[01:55] <Anti-Christ> ActionParsnip, nope
[01:55] <ech0dish> yeah get a can of compressed air and dust it out
[01:55] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: It's 10 years old almost and still going fine. Yeah, can of compressed air will help
[01:55] <lopin> bzrk, I'm trying to do a custom Remastersys disk with a bit of some School Colors...
[01:56] <Anti-Christ> pipegeek, lsof: WARNING: can't stat() usbfs file system /proc/bus/usb/.usbfs
[01:56] <Anti-Christ>       Output information may be incomplete.
[01:56] <Anti-Christ> sorry for double posting
[01:56] <bunnyto> how to install ATI drivers?
[01:56] <bunnyto> !ati
[01:56] <ech0dish> just don't turn the can upside down!
[01:56] <ech0dish> lol
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> Anti-Christ: check lsof
[01:56] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: As I said at the beginning, the one thing to watch out for regarding Ubuntu, is the aacraid driver having 'issues' with the PERC 2 RAID controller.
[01:57] <pipegeek> Anti-Christ: Hmm.  Sorry, did you do it as root?  I should have mentioned 'sudo'
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> mouser-: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-638542.html
[01:57] <ech0dish> yeah am not sure what that is exactly
[01:57] <mouser-> ActionParsnip: Thanks, I'll try that.
[01:57] <Anti-Christ> pipegeek, ya same thing, i do   " sudo lsof /media/cdrom"
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> yodabunny: can i see your /etc/network/interfaces file please
[01:57] <ech0dish> but hope i don't have to deal with the issue
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> !paste | yodabunny
[01:57] <pipegeek> yep
[01:58] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: Here's my original bug-report: bug #214814
[01:58] <ech0dish> where do i check that
[01:58] <pipegeek> oh, wait, no
[01:58] <pipegeek> Anti-Christ: sudo lsof +D /media/cdrom
[01:59] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: ubottu was *supposed* to link to that automagically, but is ignoring us!
[01:59] <pipegeek> Anti-Christ, the +D makes it search all files and directories contained in there recursively
[01:59] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/214814
[01:59] <Anti-Christ> pipegeek, same putput
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> IntuitiveNipple: maybe i tired him out
[01:59] <Anti-Christ> pipegeek, output*
[01:59] <edo226> anyone can help me with elisa?¿
[01:59] <pipegeek> heh
[01:59] <IntuitiveNipple> ActionParsnip: probably popped out behind the bike-shed for a crafty smoke!
[02:00] <ari_stress> !elisa
[02:00] <pipegeek> Anti-Christ, hmm.  is it a usb device?
[02:00] <edo226> i'm getting crazy with upnp/dlna
[02:00] <yodabunny> http://paste.ubuntu.com/56495/
[02:00] <pipegeek> the thing that's mounted
[02:00] <ech0dish> i want ubuntu on my nokia n800 lol
[02:00] <Anti-Christ> pipegeek, lol no
[02:00] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: This is a related bug, with aacraid: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/149071
[02:00] <Anti-Christ> pipegeek, cdrom
[02:00] <Anti-Christ> pipegeek, its ok though, Im dll a new .iso ^^ thanks though
[02:00] <pipegeek> Anti-Christ, oh, so the usb warning isn't an issue.  Wonder why it's refusing to unmount
[02:01] <neil__> my firefox keeps freezing wen i play games on net
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> yodabunny: ko you need to uncomment the iface eth0 inet dhcp (delete the #)
[02:01] <nickrud> yodabunny, if you're trying to raise a network with the interfaces file, remove the # from the last line
[02:01] <pipegeek> Anti-Christ, to force its hand, umount -l /media/cdrom
[02:01] <mouser-> ech0dish: I'd like it on my n810 as well.  :)
[02:01] <pipegeek> doesn't really matter since the cd is read-only anyway
[02:01] <Anti-Christ> pipegeek, k
[02:01] <yodabunny> k thanks
[02:01] <ech0dish> how is the gps on the n810?
[02:01] <pipegeek> -l means lazy means it doesn't check if anything has it open before unmounting
[02:01] <ech0dish> i heard it had issues
[02:01] <bunnyto> !ati
[02:01] <L84supper> anyone have a good xorg.conf for Sylvania netbook http://www.sylvaniacomputers.com/products.php?p=g or Everex Cloudbook using the new VIA 3D drivers http://linux.via.com.tw/support/downloadFiles.action with 8.04?
[02:01] <Anti-Christ> pipegeek, thanks that made it unmount :)
[02:02] <pipegeek> cool
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> yodabunny: that will give it dhcp automatically
[02:02] <neil__> WHY DOES MY FIREFOX KEEP FREZING WEN I PLAY ONLINE GAMES
[02:02] <ech0dish> i put ubuntu on my wife's eee pc
[02:02] <xiamx> ActionParsnip: tryed fluxbox, it runs smothly , is there a multi-ui? cuz mine is in chinese
[02:02] <yodabunny> perfect, and that will autoconnect on startup?
[02:02] <ech0dish> she loves it
[02:02] <ech0dish> has everything working 100%
[02:02] <neil__> ?
[02:03] <ech0dish> she has the 701, 4gb model
[02:03] <nickrud> yodabunny, no, I read back, that's for a wired network. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12045 has some info for wireless
[02:03] <ech0dish> it originally had windows on it... she hated it.
[02:03] <pipegeek> heh
[02:03] <neil__> why does my firefox keep freezing wen i play games online??????????/
[02:04] <crabgrass> any idea why i would be unable to remove mpd? the error is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/56497/
[02:04] <ech0dish> her first time with ubuntu and she's kickin butt with it :)
[02:04] <pipegeek> well.. flash for linux kind of blows
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> xiamx: so its chinese now or you'd like chinese?
[02:04] <pipegeek> they did a poor job with it, and haven't updated it in some time
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> pipegeek: its fine in 32bit
[02:04] <pipegeek> I'm talking about 32-bit
[02:04] <neil__> someone help me
[02:04] <pipegeek> 64-bit is a whole other hell
[02:05] <IntuitiveNipple> crabgrass: Either the mpd process is still running, *or* there's a stray pid file in /var/run/ belonging to it that the init script checks and if it exists, thinks the process hasn't stopped.
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> neil__: why do you want a browser open while you play online?
[02:05] <pipegeek> neil__, you may be out of luck... if we're talking about flash games here
[02:05] <neil__> i mean flash games
[02:05] <Plz> I just installed Virtualbox and wondering, if I install Windows XP in it, will it only edit the files inside the .vmi file?
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> pipegeek: its a bit twitchy but its ok
[02:06] <neil__> why
[02:06] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: hmm... I get the same [fail] message when trying to stop or restart mpd through init.d
[02:06] <pipegeek> neil__ the linux mozilla flash plugin crashes (at least for me, and most folks I know) regularly, which causes the entire browser to crash
[02:06] <absheva> Is flash the app that hasn't been ported to LInux yet
[02:06] <keystr0k> apache2.conf file wiped... any idea how to get another with just the default settings?
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> Plz: you can map network drives to samba shares on the host
[02:06] <Plz> so basicly I can go to /home/username/.virtualbox/VMI/ and delete the file? then everything is gone?
[02:06] <Bizzeh> hey, i just installed ubuntu server, and set up the lamp server on it, when i enabled userdir by copying userdir.load and .conf from mods-available to mods-enabled and restarting apache and creating public_html folders, i still cant seem to get any sort of responce other than 404 when i try and access them, have i missed anything?
[02:06] <ech0dish> ok well i am going to head over to my office and work on setting up that poweredge thanks for the tips guys
[02:06] <mouser-> ActionParsnip: Thanks, but now I'm getting this error in the terminal http://paste.ubuntu.com/56498/
[02:06] <ech0dish> i'll just try the latest desktop release of ubuntu
[02:06] <neil__> so is there not another plugin
[02:06] <pipegeek> neil__, you may in fact have better luck running the windows version of firefox and flash in wine
[02:07] <IntuitiveNipple> crabgrass: That almost confirms it then. Open the /etc/init.d/mpd file and look for the string that defines the pid file-name to be used in /var/run/ , then go to that directory and check if the file is still there... if it is, remove it.
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> mouser-: you cant mount hda, thats a disk, not a partition
[02:07] <neil__> ok how do i get that
[02:07] <Plz> ActionParsnip: I`m more wondering if there is any risk using virtualbox and install windows xp.. if it edit any other files on my hdd?
[02:07] <lopin> Does anyone know where the Default Theme and Iconset Configuration files are located?  I'm trying to do an OEM that requires a green theme instead of the orange, and I don't know what configuration file to change,so that new users will get the green theme.
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> mouser-: you can mount hda1
[02:07] <ech0dish> if i have any issue's i'll be back begging for help lol
[02:07] <pipegeek> neil__, there is---gnash.  But it's not done yet.  It'll be a much better program when it *is* done, but at the moment, there are a lot of things it's not compatible with
[02:07] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: alright. i changed it's location, though. one sec...
[02:07] <ech0dish> and reading a lot of google results
[02:07] <regeya> 20:08 < pipegeek> neil__, there is---gnash.  But it's not done yet.  It'll be a much better program when it *is* done, but at the moment, there are a lot of things it's not compatible with
[02:07] <kroisis> anybody here done any imports of still jpg images with kino?  as an aside, anybody know of a kino support channel?
[02:07] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: =/
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> Plz: only if you map the network drive as I said, otherwise you only have access to the local system and the internet if you configureit
[02:08] <bzrk> lopin: /etc/gconf should have xml files for that
[02:08] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: i removed ~/.mpd/pid but i still can't stop it.
[02:08] <keystr0k> nevermind. all set
[02:08] <IntuitiveNipple> crabgrass: 'changed its location' !?!? that sounds like it may have something to do with the issue. *what* is the "it" you changed the location of?
[02:08] <pipegeek> neil__, I think they basically had one or two guys working on the linux port.  It was definitely a side-project
[02:08] <regeya> if you find out about a kino support channle, kriosis, please let me know
[02:08] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: the pid file.
[02:08] <pipegeek> regeya: hmm?
[02:08] <IntuitiveNipple> crabgrass: OK... thanks... let me install the package here, see what's in the init script
[02:08] <kroisis> regeya will do, man
[02:08] <neil__> how do i get the windows firefox on my wine
[02:08] <regeya> pipegeek: hmm?
[02:09] <pipegeek> you quoted a comment of mine and I couldn't figure out the context
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> neil__: download the windows installer, it doesnt run so well last time i tried
[02:09] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: oh wow, i didn't know that you could cat init files
[02:09] <kroisis> pipegeek and regaya: Hmm? (what?!?!?!)
[02:09] <bzrk> lopin: check /var/lib/gconf too
[02:09] <kroisis> oh
[02:09] <neil__> from where
[02:09] <pipegeek> neil__, So, apt-get install wine, then download the windows installer, and just double-click and it should run
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> neil__: the firefox website
[02:09] <pipegeek> neil__, mozilla.com
[02:09] <Bladesman> Anyone using dyndns.com and have their own mailserver running?  I don't have a screen reader capable enough to wade through all the javascript in webmail (blind), and I'm trying to run my own mailserver.
[02:09] <regeya> pipegeek: I have no idea what you're on about
[02:10] <neil__> ok thanks
[02:10] <neil__> laters
[02:10] <pipegeek> regeye: You wrote <regeya> 20:08 < pipegeek> neil__, there is---gnash.  But it's not done yet.  It'll be a much better program when it *is* done, but at the moment, there are a lot of things it's not compatible with
[02:10] <pipegeek> five minutes ago
[02:10] <IntuitiveNipple> crabgrass: So, you configured an alternate location using "pid_file" in /etc/mpd.conf ?
[02:10] <kroisis> regeya perhaps we should start one
[02:10] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: correct, it's in ~/.mpd, and i've deleted it.
[02:10] <pipegeek> neil__, good luck.  Make sure to install wine (in add/remove programs) first
[02:10] <pipegeek> oh damn, missed 'im
[02:10] <pipegeek> or 'er
[02:11] <bzrk> him
[02:11] <bzrk> definitely him
[02:11] <regeya> thehell...sorry pipegeek
[02:11] <IntuitiveNipple> crabgrass: OK, I didn't expect the init script to allow a user-specified pid file.. So, that won't the issue... let me read the init script some more
[02:11]  * regeya breaks his middle mouse button
[02:11] <pipegeek> hehe, np
[02:11] <bzrk> ^^
[02:11] <pipegeek> hee hee
[02:11] <lopin> bzrk, Thank you!  I found it in /var/lib/gconf/debian.defaults
[02:11] <bzrk> your welcome
[02:11] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: alright. thanks for the help so far
[02:11] <bzrk> yoyu're
[02:11] <bzrk> gawd you're*
[02:11] <lopin> bzrk, One of the XML files redirected there.  I would have been looking there forever before I found it!
[02:11] <IntuitiveNipple> crabgrass: Can you *start* the mpd daemon successfully, *then* stop it ?
[02:12] <bzrk> yes it's a bit ugly
[02:12] <regeya> .............
[02:12] <aantn> has anyone got sound working with flash player nonfree
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> IntuitiveNipple: ps -ef | grep mpd
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> aantn: yes
[02:12] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: nope. starting works alright and recreates the pid file fine, but i still can't stop it
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> aantn: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204022
[02:13]  * kroisis just wants something stable for video editting under ubuntu
[02:13] <dtech> ne1 have an opinion regarding LAMP on Ubuntu?
[02:13] <IntuitiveNipple> crabgrass: OK... it starts/stops here okay so I'm going to *guess* something you've set in /etc/mpd.conf is affecting it... can you pastebin the /etc/mpd.conf contents for me to look at?
[02:13] <thiebaude> !miro
[02:13] <aantn> ActionParsnip: thanks
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> aantn: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=590989
[02:13] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: sure, one sec.
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> aantn: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-users/2007-July/001338.html
[02:14] <bunnyto> damn 64 bits is to buggie
[02:14] <bunnyto> cannot isntall ATI drivers
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> bunnyto: what card do you have?
[02:14] <bunnyto> ati x1300
[02:14] <IntuitiveNipple> crabgrass: also, have you edited /etc/default/mpd ?
[02:14] <kroisis> regeya, just for "fun", what issues are you having with kino?
[02:14]  * Bladesman wonders if Mattrox is makeing TV/computer video cards with digital TV tuners yet.
[02:15] <aantn> ActionParsnip: well, it actually works, but the volume is really, really low
[02:15] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/56502/   and no, i haven't. not sure what it is, either
[02:15] <bunnyto> ActionParsnip:  it was working fine, but when i activated Compiz, it crashed, now im in 640x480 resolution
[02:15] <IntuitiveNipple> crabgrass: Just the system defaults - I wanted to be sure you'd not edited anything else that might affect it
[02:16] <mouser-> Is there an easy-to-use data cd burning program that allows spanning CDs?  I'm trying to copy 13GB of files and it doesn't seem the built-in program will work.
[02:16] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: oh, okay
[02:16] <ijustam> is it possible to override the architecture setting for a package?
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> bunnyto: http://www.incunabulum.de/blog/archive/2007/07/26/ati-x1300-and-ubuntu-installation-woes-and-success
[02:16] <ijustam> say a user has a 64 but system but needs the 32 bit library
[02:16] <kroisis> mouser- won't k3b do that?
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> ijustam: you can install 32bit libs
[02:16] <pipegeek> aantn: oh, interesting.  I'm *guessing* that it's just that one or another volume control is set lower than it should be.  Sorry to state the obvious, but have you checked alsamixer and made sure all the controls were as high as they could go?
[02:16] <IntuitiveNipple> crabgrass: What error-message (if any) do you see when it fails to stop? just the "[Failed]" or is there a comment too?
[02:17] <ijustam> ActionParsnip: wouldn't it default the amd64 though?
[02:17] <pipegeek> ijustam: ia32-libs, I think, is the name of the package
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> ijustam: youd need to download the 32bit deb
[02:17] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: just [fail], nothing else.
[02:17] <milo_00> how do i reset to default settings compiz
[02:17] <IntuitiveNipple> crabgrass: great, that narrows the issue down somewhat
[02:17] <aantn> pipegeek: isn't pulse used by default?
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> bunnyto: then id head to #compiz
[02:17] <ijustam> ActionParsnip: thanks
[02:17] <pipegeek> aantn: pulse sits on top of alsa
[02:18] <pipegeek> milo_00: rm -rf ~/.compiz
[02:18] <Bladesman> Thought pulse audio was still kinda buggy.
[02:18] <pipegeek> it is >.<
[02:18] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: sarcasm? heh, i thought that the least-possibly verbose error message was a bad thing
[02:18] <neil__> how do i install an exe file
[02:18] <pipegeek> hopefully that'll get better in intrepid
[02:18] <aantn> pipegeek: where's the best place to change that?
[02:18] <bobbyd> hi
[02:18] <milo_00> pipegeek cheers
[02:18] <pipegeek> change what?
[02:18] <pipegeek> :)
[02:18] <aaron> Unable to open 'dvd:///dev/hdd'     I am trying to watch a dvd on ubuntu
[02:18] <IntuitiveNipple> crabgrass: Have you, by chance, deleted the ~/.mpd/ directory ?
[02:19] <aaron> using vlc....
[02:19] <william_> Any idea why before any sound is output I get static... or why my firefox crashes so much???
[02:19] <bobbyd> can anyone tell me where the "Places" menu is defined? I'm getting an error when I go to "home folder" : Failed to execute child process "audacious" (No such file or directory)
[02:19] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: nope, it's still there. i'm looking at it.
[02:19] <neil__> how do i install an .exe file
[02:19] <aantn> pipegeek: thanks
[02:19] <pipegeek> np
[02:19] <pipegeek> was that it?
[02:19] <mouser-> kroisis: I think it will, but I can't get it installed on the live CD.  It says it's missing packages or something
[02:19] <RickZilla> neil_:  I think that's a Windows only thing
[02:19] <IntuitiveNipple> crabgrass: no, not saracasm... in the init script, it outputs comments if it fails for a couple of different reasons, so that helps me pin-point where your system is failing
[02:19] <bobbyd> neil__: some Windows executables can be run using Wine
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> aaron: if you chose dvd from the file menu doesnt it just pick it up
[02:19] <pipegeek> hmm
[02:19] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: oh, i see.
[02:20] <pipegeek> I want moxie
[02:20] <merther> When I launch the Avant Window Navigator something flashes briefly on the screen but then nothing happens.  Anyone have an idea how to get it working?
[02:20] <neil__> ok but how
[02:20] <william_> I was wondering if anyone knew why I get a weird static noise before any sound is made.
[02:20] <RickZilla> neil_:  You don't on LInux...it's a Windows only thing, as far as I know
[02:20] <pipegeek> neil__: hi again
[02:20] <thiebaude> merther:the same thing happens to me
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> aaron: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+question/34259
[02:20] <neil__> hi
[02:20] <pipegeek> neil__, sudo aptitude install wine
[02:20] <IntuitiveNipple> crabgrass: The location of the pid file, is it /home/dissonance/.mpd/ ?
[02:20] <Bladesman> Best way to make winderz programs work under wine is to start from the setup/install program.
[02:20] <bobbyd> neil__: go to Applications, click Add/Remove, search for wine, add it, then double-click you .exe
[02:20] <kroisis> mouser- I'm thinking you'd need to install that on a partition since youa re dealing with kde there
[02:20] <aaron> thank you
[02:21] <neil__> um i got the firefox exe file how do i make it work
[02:21] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: yes, it's in ~/.mpd
[02:21] <pipegeek> neil__, after doing that, you should be able to log out, log back in again, and just double-click on exes
[02:21] <bobbyd> neil__: what is the .exe you're trying to install?
[02:21] <pipegeek> neil__, again, sudo aptitude install wine
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> neil__: sudo apt-get install -y wine
[02:21] <pipegeek> in a terminal
[02:21] <crabgrass> pipegeek: or `sudo apt-get install firefox`
[02:21] <IntuitiveNipple> crabgrass: Just checking that the user set in the mpd configuration would have permissions to that location :)
[02:21] <pipegeek> crabgrass: no, there's a specific reason he's installing windows firefox
[02:21] <bobbyd> neil__: you don't need the firefox .exe under Ubuntu, just use the version that comes in the box :)
[02:21] <neil__> ok
[02:21] <neil__> brb
[02:21] <crabgrass> pipegeek: oh, okay.
[02:21] <merther> I've been following directions to get the bar at the bottom to look like the OS X 10.5 Dock and have had no errors.
[02:22] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: yep, that's why i put them there.
[02:22] <pipegeek> some flash game was crashing the flash plugin
[02:22] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: turned out to be a lot of trouble, though.
[02:22] <william_> Anyone know why I get a weird static noise before any sound is made??
[02:22] <bzrk> william_: crappy onboard sound? other device on the bus interfering?
[02:22] <neil__> where is terminal again lol
[02:23] <pipegeek> william_, possibly a buggy driver for your sound card.  Do 'lspci' in a terminal to find out what your soundcard is, and then google to see if other people have experienced the same thing.  Try installing a different kernel and rebooting, and seeing if the problem goes away
[02:23] <bobbyd> neil__: just go to add/remove and add firefox, it's simple :)
[02:23] <mouser-> probably, but it's not an option at this point, kroisis
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> !terminal | neil__
[02:23] <bobbyd> applications -> Add/Remove
[02:23] <pipegeek> boobyd: the reason he's installing firefox in wine is to get access to the windows flash plugin
[02:23] <pipegeek> err, bobbyd
[02:23] <kroisis> mouser- hmm...nay way to install it to a usb flash drive there?
[02:24] <bobbyd> pipegeek: and why is he doing that? Is the the latest flash version available as a beta under linux 10.x?
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> !usb | kroisis
[02:24] <bobbyd> pipegeek: oh, it was crashing....
[02:24] <pipegeek> bobbyd: some online game was repeatedly crashing his browser.
[02:24] <IntuitiveNipple> crabgrass: Can you edit /etc/init.d/mpd (you'll need to gksudo gedit /etc/init.d/mpd) and the two lines that call the "start-stop-daemon", remove the "--quiet" option from them, then save the file... with that removed, when the start-stop-daemon fails, it should report more information as to why
[02:25] <bzrk> which version of flash was he using?
[02:25] <bzrk> did someone bother to ask?
[02:25] <lw0x15> maybe its the page itself or the flash thats crashing
[02:25] <kroisis> ActionParsnip, thanks for the tip from the bot but it's mouser- who might need that info..assuming it might resolve his issue on fisxing kde dependencies for the installation of k3b
[02:25] <arlbee> Hi there.....I am running Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy & would like to install Java support for viewing in Firefox. Where can I download the correct software package (.deb) file to install it
[02:25] <IntuitiveNipple> bzrk: That's what I was wondering - v10 might be better :)
[02:25] <neil__> i dont know which version
[02:25] <merther> It seems like AWN attempts to start but then crashes
[02:25] <bzrk> IntuitiveNipple: well worth the try methinks too ;)
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> he was asking how to run firefox via wine from what i could see
[02:26] <bzrk> neil__: check about:plugins
[02:26] <aaron> the problem must be that my DVD/CD writer is not working?  what should I look for to see it it was picked up by the kernal?
[02:26] <IntuitiveNipple> ActionParsnip: Yes, as a result of Firefox + Flash having problems running Flash games online
[02:27] <bzrk> aaron check /var/log/dmesg to see if its there
[02:27] <Pitto1> hi ppl, i've a password problem:
[02:27] <Pitto1> my password works for log-in, for sudo in terminal and by changing password in system-administration-users and grops;
[02:27] <Pitto1> but works not when i try by pswrd in command line, tri to restore after lock screend and by change password in system-preferences-user info...
[02:27] <Pitto1> how it's possible?
[02:27] <FloodBot3> Pitto1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:27] <IntuitiveNipple> ActionParsnip: The suggested solution he was trying (!!) was using the Windows version of Firefox + Flash
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> aaron: file /dev/cdrw
[02:27] <cyd__> hello, how can i connect remotely on VNC port with KVM, it works only localy  ?
[02:27] <IntuitiveNipple> Pitto1: what groups does your user belong to?
[02:28] <Pitto1> mastroirmo
[02:28] <douglas> Please, how can I go somewhere to talk about C language and compilers on ubuntu?
[02:28] <IntuitiveNipple> Pitto1: Does the password have any unusual characters in it (characters with accents, for example) ?
[02:28] <Pitto1> it's the one user, the same as creatin
[02:28] <DefunctProcess> I have a weird problem with bluetooth, hidd -s returns nothing and restarting the bluetooth daemon echos nothing to terminal.
[02:28] <Pitto1> not just numbers &letters
[02:28] <IntuitiveNipple> douglas: There isn't anywhere specific for that; you can try here though
[02:29] <william_> Anyone have a SB X-Fi working in Hardy?
[02:29] <douglas> IntuitiveNipple, thanks. I'm starting to learn how to program in C
[02:29] <Pitto1> IntuitiveNipple: itt's just numbers and letters...
[02:29] <thiebaude> im trying to run windows media player 9 and says an internal application error has occured,any ideas why? BTW in wine
[02:30] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: sorry about the delay, sure i can.
[02:30] <IntuitiveNipple> Pitto1: The only thing I can think of, if you've not got NumLock or CaPs LoCk problems, is that the user needs to be in particular groups for some of those system tools - but somehow I don't think so, since it is usually the "adm" group, and "passwd" failing wouldn't fit that explanation. Check the /var/log/auth.log
[02:30] <IntuitiveNipple> crabgrass: no worries
[02:30] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: http://paste.ubuntu.com/56508/ there you go. looks like it works now, somehow.
[02:30] <bzrk> thiebaude: probably a bug or an unsupported function in wine
[02:30] <douglas> IntuitiveNipple, In the college the teacher only showed us how to compiler using dev C++ on windows
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: why are you running that. there is a multitude of media players. WMP uses a tonne of windows librarys, hence its name
[02:31] <thiebaude> ok,bzrk
[02:31] <chetnick> your windows folder should be mounted in /media
[02:31] <IntuitiveNipple> crabgrass: well *that* sure shows the problem!!!!
[02:31] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: except for the fact that creating the .db takes about five minutes and has to be done every single time mpd starts - extremely frustrating.
[02:31] <arlbee>  Hi there.....I am running Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy & would like to install Java support for viewing in Firefox. Where can I download the correct software package (.deb) file to install it
[02:31] <pipegeek> arlbee: it should already be in the repo
[02:31] <thiebaude> actionparsnip:i wanted to see if it could run it
[02:31] <pipegeek> hold on lemme find it
[02:31] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: is it not replacing `~/` with `/home/dissonance/`?
[02:32] <pipegeek> arlbee: run add/remove programs from the applications menu
[02:32] <IntuitiveNipple> crabgrass: From those messages it seems the paths you specify in /etc/mpd.conf must be FULL you can't use ~ shell expansion because it isn't sourced as a bash script
[02:32] <Pitto1> IntuitiveNipple: what to Check in the /var/log/auth.log
[02:32] <IntuitiveNipple> crabgrass: Yes, thats it
[02:32] <arlbee> yes
[02:32] <pipegeek> arlbee: search for java
[02:32] <thiebaude> i'll stick with my linux apps from now on
[02:32] <IntuitiveNipple> Pitto1: Just generally, look for clues as to why it is failing.
[02:32] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: ah-ha, interesting. let me change that...
[02:32] <pipegeek> Select "Sun Java 6 Runtime"
[02:32] <pipegeek> click "Apply changes"
[02:32] <pipegeek> that will download and install and configure it.
[02:32] <douglas> Does anyone know about some c develop environment on ubuntu?
[02:32] <pipegeek> Apt is nifty :)
[02:32] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: ah-ha, fantastic. looks like that worked.
[02:32] <pipegeek> douglas: vim
[02:32] <pipegeek> ;)
[02:32] <merther> I think it's awn-window-navigator that's crashing
[02:33] <IntuitiveNipple> crabgrass: And, to deinstall the package you will likely have to put the "--quiet" back in the init script otherwise dpkg might complain the file has custom user changes in it, and refuse to delete it :)
[02:33] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: lemmie try to connect with gmpc
[02:33] <IntuitiveNipple> crabgrass: Great :)
[02:33] <pipegeek> douglas: seriously, though, there's eclipse
[02:33] <thiebaude> actionparsnip:i'am removing wine
[02:33] <chetnick> I want to replace old motherboard with the new one that has newer chipset. If i replace it, do i have to clean install or no?
[02:33] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: you probably could get it going but it'll be pain
[02:33] <bzrk> eclipse for a beginner might be a bit overwhelming though
[02:33] <thiebaude> yup
[02:34] <bzrk> use a text editor of your choice first
[02:34] <IntuitiveNipple> douglas: I use the Eclipse CDT for Ubuntu kernel development
[02:34] <arlbee> the only thing that looks vaguely familiar is 'No Script Extension for Firefox'....
[02:34] <Pretto> is there a python lib for manpages?
[02:34] <douglas> pipegeek, thanks, I tryied kdevelop until now, without success. Did I make a bad choice?
[02:35] <bzrk> douglas: if you have never written code, a text editor will be just fine for starting
[02:35] <douglas> Ok, I'll search for it, thanks
[02:35] <IntuitiveNipple> douglas: You might also want to try anjuta
[02:35] <Jangari> what should I put in the fstab for 'options' for a data partition that I want to mount every boot at startup?
[02:35] <pipegeek> douglas: Define "no success" ;)  I don't mind kdevelop, it's actually better suited for c development than eclipse.  I still tend to work in vim, though
[02:35] <Jangari> user,auto?
[02:35] <thiebaude> actionparsnip:will you recommend a media player that you use?
[02:35] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: oh boy, i found the problem: trying to stop it now returns: "No /usr/bin/mpd found running; none killed."
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: mplayer or amarok are ok, depends what you need
[02:36] <Pitto1> IntuitiveNipple: i found the password error string..
[02:36] <thiebaude> just to listen to internet radio, actionparsnip
[02:36] <thiebaude> shoutcast
[02:36] <IntuitiveNipple> chetnick: No, you shouldn't need to reinstall anything, just swap the motherboards.. There might be some slight issues but nothing really serious
[02:36] <Pitto1> IntuitiveNipple: http://paste.ubuntu.com/56509/
[02:36] <IntuitiveNipple> crabgrass: lol !!
[02:36] <bzrk> thiebaude: then mplayer will do nicely
[02:37] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: yeah... this is really weird. what is it starting then?
[02:37] <thiebaude> thanks, bzrk
[02:37] <bzrk> yw
[02:37] <IntuitiveNipple> crabgrass: force-reinstall the package! (sudo apt-get --reinstall install mpd)
[02:37] <chetnick> IntuitiveNipple: ﻿Thanks
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: vlc is fine for that
[02:37] <douglas> IntuitiveNipple, I'm still learning c language, what do u recomend for me?
[02:37] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: oh, didn't know you could do that.
[02:37] <IntuitiveNipple> crabgrass: It *might* try to find the binary in several places, so don't take that as the one and only attempt to find mpd
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: amarok has some pretty decent shoutcast servers in it so you acn listen to a variety of musics
[02:38] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: nope, same error message(s) as before when i try to stop/restart it.
[02:38] <thiebaude> i'll download amarok from a terminal window
[02:38] <IntuitiveNipple> douglas: The IDE you're most comfortable with, and *lots* of API documentation nearby, either web-sites or off-line copies of the APIs documentation you're using, and a *good* C/C++ language guide
[02:38] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: and mpc says it can't connect, so i know it's not running.
[02:39] <william_> Where is the trash located?  I have files I need to delete with sudo I think
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> !trash | william_
[02:39] <SqueakyNeb> trash is in the bottom right corner
[02:40] <frikipedista2415> a
[02:40] <SqueakyNeb> what does the ~ mean? in file paths?
[02:40] <seektherapy> Hi am using Kubuntu and my sound card is not working
[02:40] <pipegeek> shorthand for your home directory
[02:40] <IntuitiveNipple> crabgrass: It sounds like you've done something in your customisations that is messing it up. Why not replace your custom /etc/mpd.conf with the default version?
[02:40] <nickrud>  a shortcut for your home dir
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> SqueakyNeb: ~/ means home folder
[02:40] <douglas> pipegeek, I meant I didn't get the compiler to run :) It says that is missing a makefile on the directory when I try to build the program
[02:40] <SqueakyNeb> thanks
[02:40] <pipegeek> SqueakyNeb: so, ~/Desktop means /home/jcarberr/Desktop
[02:41] <SqueakyNeb> ahh k
[02:41] <IntuitiveNipple> crabgrass: Here's the contents of the default /etc/mpd.conf : http://pastebin.intuitivenipple.net/122
[02:41] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: because i can't find the default one anywhere, haha
[02:41] <crabgrass> oh. thanks!
[02:41] <pipegeek> douglas: oh!  Hmm
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> SqueakyNeb: it makes us cli guyshave an easier job
[02:41] <pipegeek> douglas: Sadly, I don't have much experience with kdevelop
[02:41] <crabgrass> IntuitiveNipple: well, i need to be going, thanks for the help! i'll work on this more later
[02:42] <SqueakyNeb> actionsparsnip:?
[02:42] <IntuitiveNipple> crabgrass: good luck :)
[02:42] <pipegeek> douglas: wait.  Do you mean you're having difficulty building kdevelop, or building your own program *using* kdevelop?
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> SqueakyNeb: less to type
[02:42] <SqueakyNeb> oh
[02:42] <pipegeek> SqueakyNeb, also why all the directories in / have such short names ;)
[02:43] <IntuitiveNipple> douglas: Have you created a 'Makefile' for your project?
[02:43] <nickrud> SqueakyNeb, also useful for scripting, it matches anyones' home dir so one script can be handed to each person
[02:43] <pipegeek> IntuitiveNipple, does kdevelop not do that automatically?
[02:43] <SqueakyNeb> hmmm, are there any other interesting things like the ~?
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> pipegeek: SqueakyNeb: also why common commands are 2 characters long (cp, mv, cp ls and so on)
[02:43] <IntuitiveNipple> pipegeek: It being 'K' I've never installed it to find out, since I'm on 'G'nome :)
[02:44] <pipegeek> hehe
[02:44] <IntuitiveNipple> pipegeek: Trying to avoid pulling in the KDE libs :)
[02:44] <douglas> pipegeek, building my own *very simple* program :)
[02:44] <nickrud> SqueakyNeb,  well,   cd - moves you back to the dir you last changed out of
[02:44] <pipegeek> likewise.  May go back to kde after intrepid, tho
[02:44] <pipegeek> douglas: very odd
[02:44] <IntuitiveNipple> douglas: The Makefile needs a 'default:' or 'all;' target
[02:44] <Agent_bob> why would file transfer between two ide disks be as slow as 2m/s and the system be bogged down at that ?    and how can i fix it?   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/6917
[02:44] <EatShrooms> how do I check if I have a static or dynamic ip? someone told me to type in ipconfig in command prompt but I don't know what'll let me know if I have static or dynamic
[02:44] <bzrk> douglas: copy paste your code into a new file, do gcc -o foo filename
[02:44] <bzrk> done
[02:44] <SqueakyNeb> pipegeek, i knew there was something like cd - that went back
[02:45] <pipegeek> SqueakyNeb, exactly that ;)
[02:45] <tritium> EatShrooms: "ifconfig", not "ipconfig"
[02:45] <bzrk> you don't need ides at the beginning
[02:45] <bzrk> they only serve to confuse
[02:45] <tritium> EatShrooms: if you didn't explicitly setup a static IP, you probably have a dynamically-assigned IP address
[02:45] <pipegeek> one could argue that no one really *needs* an ide
[02:45] <EatShrooms> ifconfig doesn't have anything though
[02:45] <IntuitiveNipple> Pitto1: Did you sort your password issue out now you know it was an 'incorrect username' issue?
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> EatShrooms: if you open /etc/network/interfaces you will see
[02:45] <EatShrooms> I think someone here might have though
[02:46] <bzrk> pipegeek: true, but at some point it gets a bit unwieldy with vim ^^
[02:46] <tritium> EatShrooms: it should ast least list the loopback.
[02:46] <bzrk> but for that guys hello world program its overkill
[02:46] <EatShrooms> actionparsnip: I got windows
[02:46] <IntuitiveNipple> pipegeek: yeah, argue that the world is flat, too!
[02:46] <pipegeek> definitely.  I'm being a snot.  And writing java sans eclipse is a pain
[02:46] <SqueakyNeb> eatshrooms:I'm not sure that ifconfig tells you if it is static/dynamic, and it will only give you your local/LAN IP address
[02:46] <IntuitiveNipple> douglas: http://tjworld.net/wiki/Programming/C/ExamplePrintArgsAndEnv
[02:46] <douglas> IntuitiveNipple, And how do I proceed? :/
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> EatShrooms: then its ipconfig /all
[02:46] <Agent_bob> anyone have a clue on slow data transfer problem ?
[02:46] <EatShrooms> ok
[02:46] <IntuitiveNipple> douglas: Learn about GNU make, and Makefiles
[02:47] <SqueakyNeb> agent_bob:over the net or from a disk to harddrive
[02:47] <pipegeek> IntuitiveNipple, .... it just seems weird to me that kdevelop would require you to write the makefiles by hand.  Seems like not having to do that is one of the advantages of an ide
[02:47] <douglas> IntuitiveNipple, on this URL there is information about these?
[02:47] <Agent_bob> 31% 2.02 MB/s   and system is bogged down.   hd to hd SqueakyNeb
[02:47] <bzrk> douglas: do you know what object and header files are?
[02:48] <Agent_bob> SqueakyNeb these two disks in particular http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/6917
[02:48] <IntuitiveNipple> pipegeek: I guess, but then again, Makefiles are an art unto themselves!
[02:48] <pipegeek> tru
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> SqueakyNeb: id look into hdparm
[02:48] <IntuitiveNipple> douglas: Just an example of a basic hello-world C program that prints the environment and args
[02:48] <Agent_bob> SqueakyNeb and nothing is running besides that file transfer and this irc client.
[02:48] <SqueakyNeb> agent_bob:ouch, that would hurt. Any programs running that u dont need?
[02:49] <douglas> bzrk, that's in the console, right? But will this show me the errors I make on the sourcecode?
[02:49]  * pipegeek is now installing kdevelop
[02:49] <Agent_bob> SqueakyNeb and i do mean "nothing" else.  not even klogd
[02:49] <bzrk> douglas: you do not really need makefiles until you use multiple object files or header files etc
[02:49] <bzrk> forget about makefiles for now
[02:49] <pipegeek> that's what I thought
[02:49] <bzrk> copy paste your program in a new text file
[02:50] <pipegeek> so the question is, why is kdevelop complaining about a missing text file
[02:50] <bzrk> go to the cli
[02:50] <douglas> bzrk, everything was so easy on windows... :S though I know the problem is with me :/
[02:50] <pipegeek> err, makefile
[02:50] <pipegeek> that's why I'm installing it
[02:50] <SqueakyNeb> agent_bob:that is not good. How old are the drives?
[02:50] <bzrk> type gcc -o somename savedfile
[02:50] <bzrk> and you are done
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: SqueakyNeb: maybe your system is not accessing you drives properly and think they are slower than they are, look intot param
[02:50] <IntuitiveNipple> douglas: I highly recommend you get something like this: http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/DummiesTitle/productCd-0764506919,page-1.html
[02:50] <brian_> Is this also the room to ask Ubuntu Server questions?
[02:50] <pipegeek> bzrk: the problem is that he can't build using kdevelop
[02:51] <IntuitiveNipple> brian_: fire away!
[02:51] <SqueakyNeb> agent_bob:I'd take actionparsnips advice before mine
[02:51] <bzrk> pipegeek: yeah but its hopeless walking him through a makefile or kdevelop at this point
[02:51] <bzrk> that guy is one step away from hello, world!
[02:51] <tritium> EatShrooms: linux doesn't use the "ipconfig" command.  That's an M$ command.  Linux uses "ifconfig".
[02:51] <pipegeek> it sounds like he was intentionally writing 'hello world' to test out kdevelop
[02:51] <Gevaudan82> quit
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> tritium: he said he was under windows
[02:52] <merther> anyone know if AWN requires Visual Effects to be on?
[02:52] <tritium> ActionParsnip: ah, he was offtopic.
[02:52] <bzrk> he came from windows
[02:52] <bzrk> nvm though
[02:52] <Agent_bob> SqueakyNeb it was this speed with normal stuff running so i did  sudo killall5 ;sudo kill -9 -1   loged back in and restarted the copy process.   same speed and system is very sluggish.  like the cpu is full.    in answer disks are old but testing has never yet shown any errors.
[02:52] <brian_> Intuitivenipple: Well, I'm the IT guy for a school, and I've really been diving into Linux/Ubuntu the last couple of weeks.  I'm amazed that an Ubuntu desktop can serve files better than my win2k3 server under the right circumstances.  So naturally i'm interested in what Ubuntu server can do.  But i've heard there is no GUI on Ubuntu server.  That's my first question.  I'm a newb at the command line in Ubuntu.
[02:53] <isilion> hi
[02:53] <lw0x15> brian_: do kids try to gain access to admin acc ?
[02:53] <lw0x15> lol
[02:53] <EatShrooms> tritium yeah I got an xp machine I'm trying to use, I typed in ipconfig /all and don't know if it's telling me whether or not I have a static or dynamic IP
[02:53] <Agent_bob> ActionParsnip problem is that from data dvd to hdd it copies at about 17-20 mb/s  to either disk.   so it has something to do with it being hda to hdb
[02:53] <tritium> brian_: you can install the graphical desktop on the server by simply running "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> brian_: then install a desktop to it
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> Agent_bob: is it on the same controller?
[02:53] <amien> hi...
[02:53] <brian_> lw0x15: no they dont
[02:53] <SqueakyNeb> agent_bob:double then triple check there is nothin else going on, maybe you have something nasty thats starts when you login
[02:54] <douglas> IntuitiveNipple, okay I'll take a look on that page, thanks
[02:54] <Kelen> deal friends, is there anyone have experience with kernel 2.26.27 on hardy?
[02:54] <Agent_bob> ActionParsnip that's 10x faster off of a dvd than off of an hdd.
[02:54] <brian_> tritium: If I do that, will there be server type tools available on the desktop?
[02:54] <IntuitiveNipple> brian_: Yes, -server variant is tailored for headless server type installs, and certainly with no GUI. See the "Learn More" section of http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition
[02:54] <lw0x15> brian_: well i do :P i did at my school and got it lol and now my college
[02:54] <lw0x15> admins probably dont even look at the logs anyway
[02:54] <_Andrew> brian_: You could always just install Ubuntu Desktop, there's no difference between, desktop and server
[02:54] <merther> are there requirements for the normal visual effects?  It's saying that it couldn't enable them.
[02:54] <tritium> brian_: no, that will install the typical desktop.
[02:54] <bzrk> brian_: you can always install gui admin tools later on, something like webmin or similar
[02:54] <isilion> hi i have a prob with sound. after editing sudoers sound went
[02:54] <tritium> isilion: never edit sudoers
[02:55] <IntuitiveNipple> _Andrew: There is quite a difference, actually, in the configuration of the kernel, and security
[02:55] <Agent_bob> SqueakyNeb somthing nasty starting at login... ?  heh fork bomb type thang ?
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> brian_: you can install the server stuff after
[02:55] <Kelen> i wanna install the newest kernel. what can i do?
[02:55] <brian_> lw0x15 well I use insane passwords.  I'm not worried.
[02:55] <Agent_bob> SqueakyNeb or you suggesting that i've been hacked ?
[02:55] <bzrk> brian_: http://www.webmin.com/
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> Kelen: go to www.kernel.org and get the nightly code freeze
[02:55] <tritium> !webmin
[02:55] <tritium> brian_: I'd advise against webmin (see above)
[02:55] <bzrk> hmm good to know thx tritium
[02:56] <isilion> im using xubuntu 8.04 and in apps/configuration/administrator../sound does not appear any driver
[02:56] <nickrud> Ack! Even in my craziest days, I left the daily kernels alone ;(
[02:56] <douglas> bzrk, thanks for helping. I'll try the command you said before, and I will problaby be back here to ask for more information ;)
[02:56] <isilion> it shows default but theres no sound
[02:56] <IntuitiveNipple> Ignore that webmin ubottu advice - it is based on misconceptions and false rumours steming from some old Debian packaging issues
[02:56] <brian_> tritium: noted.  I'll likely start with just gnome
[02:56] <tritium> isilion: never edit sudoers.  You grant sudo priveleges by adding users to the admin group.
[02:56] <tritium> brian_: sounds good
[02:56] <douglas> bzrk, probably*
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> isilion: run lspci and you'll see what sound card you have, you can then websearch from there
[02:56] <isilion> i had to edit it
[02:56] <tritium> isilion: no
[02:56] <bzrk> brian_: get familiar with he command line anyways or you miss the biggest advantage
[02:57] <isilion> for some reason, system didnt allow me in sudo with mi account
[02:57] <bzrk> you will wonder how you ever did without
[02:57] <isilion> and i couldnt change admin groups
[02:57] <brian_> IntuitiveNipple: any suggestions on the best way to get started with learning the command line?
[02:57] <tritium> isilion: then boot into single-user (recovery) mode
[02:57] <nickrud> !rute
[02:57] <IntuitiveNipple> tritium: It's about time that old stuff about webmin packaging in Ubuntu was removed, it has been incorrect for over a year now
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> brian_: just use it and websearch when you get stuck (or ask in here)
[02:57] <santium> Why would removing libldap make apt want to remove /everything/ including apt?
[02:57] <IntuitiveNipple> brian_: Dive in!
[02:58] <tritium> IntuitiveNipple: to my knowledge, it still applies
[02:58] <IntuitiveNipple> tritium: No, it doesn't.
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> brian_: do stanadrd file management with cli
[02:58] <brian_> Well you guys have been extremely helpful the few times i've been in here.
[02:58] <tritium> IntuitiveNipple: I'd need to see evidence backing your claim
[02:58] <brian_> ActionParsnip: that makes sense.
[02:58] <neil__> pipegeek
[02:59] <pipegeek> yo
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> brian_: also then instead of rdp you can use ssh which is lighter on the network
[02:59] <nickrud> I thought it was more about configuration file incompatibilities; that is, if you wanted to use the debian config layout (webmin)
[02:59] <IntuitiveNipple> tritium: Just examine the packaging - and the history. As soon as the webmin guys were actually told about the Debian conf issues, they fixed the upstream packaging.
[02:59] <merther> I figured the AWN thing out BTW,  You've got to have normal desktop effects enabled
[03:00] <IntuitiveNipple> nickrud: Yes, that was it. They corrected it when they were told
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> brian_: you could have windows domain controllers and have the kids work and user profiles on a samba server
[03:00] <merther> now awn-window-navigator launches correctly
[03:00] <IntuitiveNipple> nickrud: The original issue was based on the maintainer of the Debian package not passing things upstream
[03:00] <brian_> ActionParsnip: i'm rather floored at how much you get............for free.
[03:01] <nickrud> ah. Interesting, but not really a topic for here, but -motu since it's not packaged
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> brian_: its free, but if it breaks you get both parts
[03:01] <IntuitiveNipple> nickrud: It's an issue about the ubottu message
[03:01] <tritium> IntuitiveNipple: well, that's good to know.  I wish some sort of announcement had gone out about that.
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> brian_: its very robust and obeys the standards
[03:01] <brian_> i'm not objected to paying Canonical for support if it's as good as I think it is.
[03:01] <nickrud> IntuitiveNipple, we'll 'look into it' ;)
[03:01] <IntuitiveNipple> tritium: You now how it is with open source projects... everyone in their little enclave, and forget to tell the world :)
[03:01] <asw> can anybody help me in knowing what is the maximum no of  partitions created using lvm
[03:02] <IntuitiveNipple> I've been deploying webmin on Ubuntu servers since Feisty from the *upstream* debian package with no problems at all, it has been a sweet experience
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> IntuitiveNipple: ive always used ssh
[03:03] <Agent_bob> i guess i ran squeeky off.
[03:04] <DigitalFiz> where is the xorg conf in ubuntu?
[03:04] <tritium> DigitalFiz: /etc/X11
[03:04] <Dar1us> DigitalFiz: /etc/X11
[03:04] <DigitalFiz> ty
[03:04] <IntuitiveNipple> ashash: According to the man-page for lvm: "found in /proc/devices together with maximum (non-zero) number of partitions (normally 16"
[03:05] <bzrk> asw: #lvm
[03:05] <IntuitiveNipple> ActionParsnip: For hosting servers with lots of domains, Webmin+VirtualMin+Usermin is a great combination
[03:05] <Agent_bob> anyway.  to whom it may concern.  there doesn't seem to be anything malitious running http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/6922 and i compaired the output of ps with the process list in /proc/ and the numbers all match, there is nothing hiden.
[03:06] <Agent_bob> test was.  for Q in `ls -1 /proc | grep -vi [a-z]` ;do /bin/ps -A x | grep -q $Q || echo $Q ;done
[03:06] <ashash> IntuitiveNipple: thnks
[03:06] <douglas> is it possible to save IRC chats on a formatted text file?
[03:07] <IntuitiveNipple> douglas: It depends on the IRC client you're using.
[03:07] <zeno> is it normal for xorg to be using up 30 percent CPU?  its amd 3.2ghz, and effects are off
[03:07] <douglas> IntuitiveNipple, It's XChat
[03:07] <Agent_bob> so how can a data transfer be so slow and at the same time bog down the system on a 1ghz+ system   that makes no sense to me.
[03:07] <Dar1us> zeno: depends what video driver you use..
[03:07] <qqxhc> !list
[03:07] <zeno> Dar1us: nvidia propriatary
[03:08] <isilion> is there any way to make xubuntu autorecognise hardware like during install?
[03:08] <IntuitiveNipple> douglas: You might want to look here, though: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/10/12/
[03:08] <Dar1us> zeno: check the nvidia support pages then I reckon :)
[03:08] <IntuitiveNipple> douglas: I think xchat is logging by default, to ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs/
[03:08] <adrian> wooa 1233 xD
[03:08] <Agent_bob> zeno i would say that was too high.
[03:08] <adrian> HI
[03:08] <adrian> Xd
[03:08] <zeno> Dar1us: wish there was a good free driver :\
[03:08] <zeno> Agent_bob: its causing my cores to heat up to 145 deg far
[03:09] <bzrk> isilion: maybe a simple modprove is what you want?
[03:09] <bzrk> modprobe*
[03:09] <Agent_bob> zeno test with the vesa driver and compare
[03:09] <Agent_bob> zeno it could be a driver bug.
[03:10] <zeno> Agent_bob: ok, thanks
[03:10] <isilion> i dunno whats modprobe
[03:10] <Agent_bob> isilion a command
[03:10] <bzrk> loads kernel modules for the relevant hardware
[03:10] <isilion> what i want is that linux configure itself the soundcard as in installation
[03:10] <ajhtiredwolf> anyone in here good with mythtv? no one in theri room ever answers. Im having a problem, about every other time i try and watch tv it hangs for a while and then says that couldn't' connect to the master backend server is it running? I then have to start up the backetnd again
[03:11] <bzrk> isilion: use alsaconf
[03:11] <Dar1us> ajhtiredwolf: sounds like the backend is crashing
[03:11] <isilion> doesnt work
[03:11] <Dar1us> ajhtiredwolf: does the backend log file say anything?
[03:11] <gabe> I'm having trouble running the newest version of world of warcraft in wine
[03:11] <ajhtiredwolf> Dar1us, correct but not sure why
[03:11] <bzrk> isilion: what does dmesg say to that?
[03:11] <bzrk> or lspci?
[03:11] <tyso1> is there a way to access my own computer from the internet?
[03:11] <Dar1us> ajhtiredwolf: get a backtrace of the crash and post it as a bug?
[03:11] <bzrk> is the card there somewhere?
[03:12] <bigB> 1.0.0 or 1.1.6 wine
[03:12] <merther> is there a good utility to search for unused or broken packages?
[03:12] <qqxhc> @find tlfirc
[03:12] <ajhtiredwolf> Dar1us, i cant find where myth keeps its logs
[03:12] <Agent_bob> tyso1 if you run sshd on it.
[03:12] <Dar1us> ajhtiredwolf: /var/log/mythtv
[03:12] <ajhtiredwolf> Dar1us, I know that it keeps its files in var/lib/mythtv
[03:12] <douglas> IntuitiveNipple, nice! thank you
[03:12] <Dar1us> ajhtiredwolf: on my mythbuntu box anyway
[03:12] <tyso1> agent bob: what is sshd?
[03:12] <isilion> a huge answer appeared with dmesg. what im looking for?
[03:13] <Agent_bob> tyso1 there are also graphical ways.  but ssh is a standard for remote control in linux.
[03:13] <bzrk> isilion: the name of your card
[03:13] <bzrk> maybe check lspci first
[03:13] <Agent_bob> !ssh > tyso1
[03:13] <isilion> is an integrated soundcard. dunno model
[03:13] <bzrk> check lspci
[03:13] <Agent_bob> or lshw
[03:13] <Dar1us> integrated is probably ich or hda depending on how old
[03:14] <isilion> 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[03:14] <bzrk> ok thats good
[03:14] <william_> df -h is the best command in the world :)  I've been trying to figure out how to display disk space etc :)
[03:14] <ajhtiredwolf> Dar1us, jeeze there are allot of logs in there, uno momento
[03:14] <Dar1us> hmmm my ICH4 sound card Just Worked(tm) when I installed
[03:14] <Dar1us> ajhtiredwolf: yes..
[03:14] <bzrk> isilion: now check lsmod and grep for snd
[03:14] <Agent_bob> bzrk is he looking for sudo modprobe snd-ac97-codec  ?
[03:15] <bzrk> probably
[03:15] <bzrk> maybe another soundcard thingy is hugging the default slot
[03:15] <Agent_bob> could be.   asound -l  maybe ?
[03:15] <Dar1us> snd_intel8x0 I'd say
[03:15] <Dar1us> that's what I have loaded anyway
[03:15] <bzrk> isilion: does lsmod have anything starting with snd?
[03:16] <isilion> dont
[03:16] <isilion> doesnt
[03:16] <bzrk> then modprobe snd-intel8x0
[03:16] <dr_willis> william_,  try    df -h -x tmpfs -x devpts -x usbfs
[03:16] <dr_willis>     
[03:17] <bunnyto> NEVER ever NEVER USE thee    UBUNTU 64, its a pile of crap
[03:17] <isilion>  modprobe snd-intel8x0
[03:17] <bunnyto> only Ubuntu 32 is good
[03:17] <bzrk> in the shell
[03:17] <isilion> FATAL: Module snd_intel8x0 not found.
[03:17] <bzrk> hmmm
[03:17] <Templar_Xion1> bunnyto: How long have you been using Ubuntu and linux?
[03:17] <bunnyto> Templar_Xion1: 10 years linux, 1 month ubuntu
[03:18] <william_> dr_willis, so thats just removing the other stuff that doesnt matter?
[03:18] <Templar_Xion1> bunnyto: which other distros?
[03:18] <dr_willis> william_,  yep. It cleans out the output. I got that command in a alias i call 'ShowDisks' :)
[03:18] <william_> nice I'll have to learn how to make aliases
[03:18] <bunnyto> Templar_Xion1: The best best ever ever: Debian
[03:18] <ajhtiredwolf> Dar1us, http://pastebin.com/m10194cb seems like it thinks its the wrong address but that would be strange that it some times works
[03:19] <bzrk> isilion: try modprobe snd-hda-intel
[03:19] <Templar_Xion1> bunnyto: You know... what.. Ubuntu is... right?
[03:19] <isilion> FATAL: ... not found
[03:19] <Agent_bob> bzrk i thought the lspci said ac'97 on his card
[03:19] <Dar1us> ajhtiredwolf: I ended up hardcoding LAN addresses into my myth config
[03:19] <amazin> ubuntu is a pimped debian :-D
[03:20] <bzrk> Agent_bob: something will fit ;)
[03:20] <Dar1us> ajhtiredwolf: that link says it's expired/broken btw
[03:20] <Templar_Xion1> Correct, sorta.
[03:20] <HoNgOuRu> why is that it takes like 2 seconds to open every pop up menu with compiz fusion using hardy heron, where do I change the delay time ??? thanks
[03:20] <bzrk> isilion: try this: find /lib -name 'snd*' | grep intel
[03:20] <Templar_Xion1> Ubuntu is a derivative of Debian. taking and molded more to an end-user system versus a server os
[03:20] <ajhtiredwolf> Dar1us, mind if i private it to you?
[03:20] <Agent_bob> bzrk heh trail and error may and error may and error may and error...
[03:20] <bzrk> what does that return?
[03:20] <ajhtiredwolf> Dar1us, its fairly short
[03:21] <bzrk> Agent_bob: i am faintly worried by the fact that essential modules do not exist...
[03:21] <HoNgOuRu> why is that it takes like 2 seconds to open every pop up menu with compiz fusion using hardy heron, where do I change the delay time ??? thanks
[03:21] <bigB> build-essentials
[03:21] <bunnyto> Templar_Xion1: yes, its a lame copy of Debian
[03:21] <isilion> /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/pci/snd-intel8x0.ko
[03:21] <isilion> /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/pci/snd-intel8x0m.ko
[03:21] <isilion> /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko
[03:21] <bzrk> hmm so the modules exist
[03:21] <Templar_Xion1> bunnyto: You have your opinion.
[03:21] <niko_m> hi i was wondering how i can get windows media files and other streaming movies to work in ubuntu
[03:21] <bzrk> isilion: type depmod-ae
[03:21] <niko_m> i was able to get flash working so far
[03:22] <bzrk> depmod -ae*
[03:22] <niko_m> but not windows media vids
[03:22] <Templar_Xion1> bunnyto: but it's peculiar you would have so much trouble with a variant of Debian after 10 years of usage...
[03:22] <bigB> lol
[03:22] <bzrk> isilion: and then modprobe snd-intel8x0 again
[03:22] <rsc-> hey guys. Bazaar question. is there a bazaar equivalent of "svn switch"?
[03:22] <niko_m> last time i thought it just worked automatically
[03:22] <isilion> fatal not found
[03:22] <niko_m> I believe i'm using ubuntus newest version
[03:23] <bzrk> isilion: ok try this: insmod /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/pci/snd-intel8x0.ko
[03:23] <Agent_bob> bzrk might compare uname -r | grep '2.6.24-19-generic'
[03:23] <L84supper> anyone have a good xorg.conf for Sylvania netbook http://www.sylvaniacomputers.com/products.php?p=g or Everex Cloudbook using the new VIA 3D drivers with ubuntu 8.04? GFX Stable unichrome.83-242-u804(18Jun08) (2.9M) http://linux.via.com.tw/support/beginDownload.action?eleid=7&fid=363
[03:23] <dasickis> how do you turn off all the boot messages?
[03:23] <bzrk> yeah good idea
[03:23] <Agent_bob> dasickis silent quiet
[03:23] <ajhtiredwolf> Dar1us, still there?
[03:24] <bzrk> isilion: paste output of uname -a here please
[03:24] <Dar1us> ajhtiredwolf: yep
[03:24] <outbackwifi> hello
[03:24] <Dar1us> ajhtiredwolf: ah hmm I guess you can
[03:24] <Agent_bob> dasickis and send all the init script output to dev/null   but that's not really advisable.
[03:24] <dasickis> why isn't that advisable/
[03:24] <isilion> insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/pci/snd-intel8x0.ko': -1 Invalid module format
[03:24] <dasickis> ?*
[03:24] <HoNgOuRu> why is that it takes like 2 seconds to open every pop up menu with compiz fusion using hardy heron, where do I change the delay time ??? thanks
[03:24] <bzrk> isilion: paste output of uname -a here please
[03:24] <m3thod> i've been using ubuntu/linux for about 2 weeks now and just wondering when downloading packages is there any type of preffered file
[03:24] <Dar1us> ajhtiredwolf: that's just saying it couldn't talk to teh master not why the master isn't running
[03:24] <dasickis> Agent_bob: Why isn't advisable?
[03:25] <ajhtiredwolf> Dar1us, hmmm
[03:25] <Agent_bob> dasickis because if something breaks you wont know what.
[03:25] <Dar1us> ajhtiredwolf: what log is that from?
[03:25] <isilion> Linux isilion 2.6.24-19-386 #1 Wed Aug 20 21:59:50 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:25] <dasickis> well i'm trying to create a kiosk
[03:25] <outbackwifi> m3thod: deb
[03:25] <dasickis> so i might just redirect the output to a log
[03:25] <isilion> o.Ô it should be generic instead 386
[03:25] <Templar_Xion1> dasickis: Exactly, all the output goes to the black void, making troubleshooting very difficult.
[03:25] <isilion> or not?
[03:25] <ajhtiredwolf> Dar1us, this might be more informative
[03:25] <bzrk> isilion: yeah looks like your kernel version is not the same
[03:25] <dasickis> Templar_Xion1: yeah so just redirect it to a log and ahve it uploaded to my server at the end of the day or whatever
[03:26] <ajhtiredwolf> Dar1us, http://pastebin.com/m39613643
[03:26] <isilion> lets see..
[03:26] <Agent_bob> dasickis yeah but remember that some of the init scripts run before you can write to a disk
[03:26] <dasickis> Agent_bob: true but basically i'm going to deploy this thing and not have it update or make any kernel/ubuntu changes
[03:27] <ajhtiredwolf> Dar1us, "Strange error" wonderfu
[03:27] <bzrk> isilion: you should change the kernel to something more closely resembling your hardware
[03:27] <dasickis> Agent_bob: the only things that will change are my software
[03:27] <Dar1us> ajhtiredwolf: never seen the 'strange error' thing myself
[03:27] <Dar1us> ajhtiredwolf: I reckon a bug report with GDB back trace would help
[03:27] <Agent_bob> dasickis k.  just wanted to mention some of the possable effects
[03:27] <Dar1us> ajhtiredwolf: presuming dmesg shows it is actually crashing
[03:27] <bzrk> that should install the modules too and thereby solve your sound issues
[03:27] <isilion> im trying to uninstall 386 kernel and install generic
[03:27] <dasickis> Agent_bob: thanks, i'm trying to create this kiosk so i don't want users to know what i'm running
[03:28] <bzrk> isilion: first install additional kernel!
[03:28] <bzrk> remove the old one only if everything works out fine
[03:28] <dasickis> what programs would be good for remote administration for hundreds of machines?
[03:28] <isilion> synaptyc shows the 2 installed
[03:28] <ajhtiredwolf> Dar1us, I will submit a bug report. Hey what quality settings do you use?
[03:28] <dr_willis> dasickis,  ssh :)
[03:28] <Agent_bob> dasickis ssh
[03:28] <Dar1us> ajhtiredwolf: quality for what?
[03:28] <ajhtiredwolf> Dar1us, live tv
[03:28] <dr_willis> dasickis,  depends on what you are doing also.
[03:28] <bzrk> isilion: then reboot and check grub/lilo bootscreen, maybe you boot in the old kernel
[03:29] <Dar1us> ajhtiredwolf: well I only have an SD card so.. generally just SD
[03:29] <dasickis> well say there's an update i need to have all the machines get I don't want to be sshing everytime
[03:29] <bzrk> or even better check lilo.conf/menu.list before rebootin
[03:29] <SuperRoach> Hello - is there a channel for netbook remix related q's?
[03:29] <ajhtiredwolf> Dar1us, SD?
[03:29] <Dar1us> Standard DEfnition
[03:29] <Dar1us> vs HD
[03:29] <bzrk> jesus what a borked machine that guy had
[03:29] <Agent_bob> dasickis ssh with a secure key,  not using typed in passwords    and update the key regularly.
[03:29] <ajhtiredwolf> Dar1us, i mean like, here let me show you
[03:30] <dasickis> Agent_bob: ok and then just script it for all the machines?
[03:30] <sjea> hello all
[03:30] <Agent_bob> dasickis yep
[03:30] <dasickis> Agent_bob: thanks sounds good
[03:31] <bzrk> dasickis: if you have hundreds of machines look at puppet too http://reductivelabs.com/
[03:31] <R0b0t1> I'm having a problem. When running a Java applet with sound, other sound does not work.
[03:31] <bzrk> its a great tool
[03:31] <dasickis> i really need to hire a sysadmin
[03:31] <isilion> re
[03:31] <isilion> sound is working
[03:31] <bzrk> very good
[03:31] <Arcticfox> hey guys I'm haveing trouble running world if warcraft with wine
[03:31] <dasickis> is there anywhere i can find quality sysadmins?
[03:31] <isilion> i feel completely stupid
[03:31] <bzrk> happens ^^
[03:31] <R0b0t1> I'm having a problem. When running a Java applet with sound, other sound does not work.
[03:31] <isilion> xDD
[03:31] <bigB> 1.0.0 or 1.1.6 wine?
[03:31] <bzrk> daily to me
[03:31] <ajhtiredwolf> Dar1us, which codec do you use? MPEG4?
[03:32] <R0b0t1> This is a browser applet, and the game that has sound I'm using is Unreal 2004.
[03:32] <ajhtiredwolf> Dar1us, or RTjpeg
[03:32] <Dar1us> ajhtiredwolf: ah for transcoding
[03:32] <IntuitiveNipple> crabgrass: Are you still about? I found there is a knwown fault with the mpd package. See bug #282003 and bug #240356
[03:32] <Dar1us> ajhtiredwolf: usually I don't bother
[03:32] <Arcticfox> 1.0
[03:32] <Agent_bob> bzrk i resemble that remark
[03:32] <Dar1us> mpeg4 when I do tho
[03:32] <bzrk> Agent_bob: which one? stupidity happens?
[03:32] <Agent_bob> yep. "daily to me"
[03:32] <ajhtiredwolf> see my acual live tv's quality seems pretty poor compared to when i use say "tvtime" im trying to figure out why
[03:32] <bzrk> ^^
[03:33] <Dar1us> ajhtiredwolf: hmm works OK for me.. I just get DVB though
[03:33] <bzrk> yes its ambiguous
[03:33] <Dar1us> it either looks perfect or doesn't work :)
[03:33] <R0b0t1> I'm having a problem. When running a Java applet with sound, other sound does not work.
[03:33] <R0b0t1> This is a browser applet, and the game that has sound I'm using is Unreal 2004.
[03:33] <william_> I went on a mouse cursor craze for a day and some how the default mouse cursor is now a mac theme.. any way to re-download the default theme for Ubuntu?
[03:33] <dasickis> bzrk: thanks looks good
[03:33] <R0b0t1> Any suggestions? Is this a common problem.
[03:33] <ashash>  want to install ubuntu using lvm how may lv can be made, is there any limit
[03:33] <ajhtiredwolf> Dar1us, do you know where you change quality settings for just live tv?
[03:33] <bzrk> dasickis: yw
[03:34] <ajhtiredwolf> Dar1us, is it "software Encoders" ?
[03:34] <bigB> try updating wine to 1.1.6
[03:34] <R0b0t1> I'm having a problem. When running a Java applet with sound, other sound does not work.
[03:34] <R0b0t1> This is a browser applet, and the game that has sound I'm using is Unreal 2004.
[03:34] <R0b0t1> Any suggestions? Is this a common problem.
[03:34] <bigB> http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[03:34] <Mimi> Question, is it okay to have multiple distros sharing the same /home partition? If so, must i use a different username?
[03:34] <Dar1us> ajhtiredwolf: there are settings for deinterlacing and what mpeg decoder to use
[03:35] <Rezagrats> How do i change the colors of the window borders ?
[03:35] <ajhtiredwolf> Dar1us, well see there are two sections, software encoders (v4l based) and transcoders
[03:35] <bzrk> Mimi: that should work fine in general. You will likely end up with redundant information though
[03:35] <dr_willis> Mimi,  it can cause issues... depending on how different the disrtos are.
[03:35] <ajhtiredwolf> Dar1us, which one controls the live tv?
[03:35] <Dar1us> ajhtiredwolf: I have digital TV so I don't have the v4l thing I think
[03:35] <ajhtiredwolf> Dar1us, ah alrighty
[03:36] <tictac232434> I get an error message right after GRUB boot loader load it says "splash failed to load then "location" press enter to continue any ideas on how to fix this?
[03:36] <Mimi> bzrk, that's good to know. Thank you. dr_willis  I'll keep that in mind. I guess I'll use different usernames ^^
[03:36] <Agent_bob> why is my file transfer so slow ?   i just tested hda to hda and it's  2m/s  hdb to hdb 2m/s   hda to hdb 2m/s     and all are cpu 54.4 and higher
[03:36] <bzrk> Agent_bob: sounds like you have dma disabled
[03:37] <tictac232434> I get an error message right after GRUB boot loader loads it says "splash failed to load then "location" press enter to continue any ideas on how to fix this?
[03:37] <bzrk> did you check that?
[03:37] <ajhtiredwolf> Dar1us, do you use lirc?
[03:38] <Dar1us> ajhtiredwolf: yep
[03:38] <chaddy> tictac232434: try adding nosplash to your kernel boot line
[03:38] <ajhtiredwolf> Dar1us, do you ever have hte problem of it not working after you close mythtv?
[03:38] <Agent_bob> bzrk http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/6924
[03:38] <amazin> tictac232434: system - perferences - startup-manager... there u can config. the splash
[03:39] <Dar1us> ajhtiredwolf: not so far :)
[03:39] <ashash> using lvm how many logical volumes can be made, is there any limit
[03:39] <Dar1us> ajhtiredwolf: does it work with irw?
[03:39] <tictac232434> I do not have startup-manager
[03:39] <amazin> install it.
[03:39] <amazin> :-D
[03:39] <tictac232434> kk ty
[03:39] <TechPepsi> cant access mysql, "ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'user'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[03:40] <bzrk> Agent_bob: the disks are on the same ide channel?
[03:40] <Agent_bob> bzrk i guess i don't know how to drive hdparm
[03:40] <tictac232434> Amazin: I have it
[03:40] <bzrk> they report as udma2 which is strange
[03:40] <Agent_bob> bzrk yes   but fiel transfer on the same disk and disk to disk is the same.
[03:40] <bzrk> Agent_bob: i would suggest a different cable and putting the disks on seperate ide channels
[03:40] <tictac232434> Amazin: But u see after i uncheck splash it still has the error. This is before the boot menu even appears
[03:40] <bzrk> for testing at least
[03:41] <Agent_bob> bzrk well that interferes with my other ide drives    ;/
[03:41] <Vegombrei> hi ... how do i extract a bunch of rar files ?? ubuntu says archive not supported
[03:41] <SchmittyDoesIt> Someone has loaded a sinister LKM on my machine. What do I do?
[03:41] <Agent_bob> and i can test it i guess
[03:41] <bzrk> ide is a crap bus
[03:41] <ajhtiredwolf> Dar1us, yeah its strange, what will happen is. I have to start it lirc manually first of all, as well as the irexec -daemon, then if i open mythtv by using the mouse there is a huge delay, if i open mythtv by using the button i programmed the remote to open mythtv using irexec, it will work fine, untill i close mythtv then it stops working all togther
[03:41] <TechPepsi> does anyone know?
[03:41] <ashash> Vegombrei: use unrar
[03:41] <{H}> Vegombrei, sudo apt-get install unrar
[03:42] <Agent_bob> bzrk heh i can get 20m/s transfer on a p1 ide hdd to hdd so why should a p4 be slower ?
[03:42] <edited> how can i install sun java on ubuntu hardy?
[03:42] <aaron> sorry all...how do I check if my dvd has been found correctly?
[03:42] <bzrk> Agent_bob: same cable?
[03:42] <IntuitiveNipple> SchmittyDoesIt: Does it wear an overcoat and hat pulled down over its eyes? :)
[03:42] <Agent_bob> bzrk same disk
[03:43] <Vegombrei> {H}: thanks .. working
[03:43] <Spoom> hi folks, for some reason frets on fire has stopped outputting any sound; while it used to give the standard "ALSA is in use" error every so often, now it's not outputting any sound at all without any errors, in both the repository version and the version i downloaded from sourceforge myself, i'm using amd64 hardy, nothing in any of my logs about this, google doesn't give any results i tried asking on #pygame but nobody responded, ther
[03:43] <Spoom> e's no #fretsonfire channel, it used to work but doesn't now, i think it may have happened after installing libasound-plugins but i've since removed it and it makes no difference, in addition the game hangs on quitting until i press ctrl-C in the terminal that launched it
[03:43] <bzrk> the cables often have issues with ide
[03:43] <bzrk> and ive personally had a lot of fun with two drives on the same channel too
[03:43] <bzrk> i generally put only one drive per channel
[03:44] <Agent_bob> bzrk ok. i'll go tare the box apart and see if that's the adjuster switch or the ejector switc...........  WOOPS!
[03:44] <bzrk> ^^
[03:44] <bzrk> gl
[03:44] <tictac232434> I get an error message right after GRUB boot loader loads it says "splash failed to load then "location" press enter to continue any ideas on how to fix this? Already have tried Start-up Manager.
[03:44] <IntuitiveNipple> Agent_bob: have you looked at what the /var/log/dmesg shows the controller has done when configuring the channels for those drives?
[03:44] <Agent_bob> bzrk anyway.  thanks for the thoughts.
[03:44] <dr_willis> tictac232434,  the splash file is defined in the menu.lst file. you could disable the splash screen with the 'nosplash' option. is one way.
[03:44] <bzrk> Agent_bob: yw
[03:44] <Agent_bob> probably won't report back on it today.
[03:45] <tavo> hi
[03:45] <Spoom> hrmm
[03:45] <tictac232434> I get an error message right after GRUB boot loader loads it says "splash failed to load then "location" press enter to continue any ideas on how to fix this? Already have tried Start-up Manager.
[03:45] <tavo> how can I run an installer with ./ command in Xubuntu???
[03:45] <IntuitiveNipple> bzrk: I wonder if the IDE settings on the drives are 'cable select' instead of forcing master and slave?
[03:46] <bunnyto> help!! how to install DIVX and mpeg?
[03:46] <dr_willis> tavo,  make it excutable then cd to the directory its in and ./whateveritscalled
[03:46] <Spoom> either nobody has any idea, i'm asking in the wrong forum, or i'm somehow being an idiot in my asking... hints would be appreciated
[03:46] <bzrk> IntuitiveNipple: yeah could be too
[03:46] <dr_willis> !w32codec  | bunnyto
[03:46] <dr_willis> !w32codecs
[03:46] <bzrk> ide is just crap
[03:46] <thiebaude> !w32
[03:46] <tictac232434> I get an error message right after GRUB boot loader loads it says "splash failed to load then "location" press enter to continue any ideas on how to fix this? Already have tried Start-up Manager.
[03:46] <dr_willis> bunnyto,  install the w32codecs from medibuntu
[03:46] <TechPepsi> anyone know about this? http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c137/ThePeasantsRejoice/The%20Goods/SEX.jpg
[03:46] <IntuitiveNipple> bzrk: It's the only hardware thing (short of two masters or two slaves) I can think of that would slow it down, but not corrupt.
[03:46] <Spoom> tictac232434, flooding your question won't make it answered any quicker
[03:46] <TechPepsi> er whoop[s
[03:46] <tavo> ok I will
[03:47] <TechPepsi> cant access mysql, "ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'user'@'localhost' (using password: NO) sorry
[03:47] <weijia> ﻿ TechPepsi:???
[03:47] <bzrk> IntuitiveNipple: i was thinking he maybe had on old 40 pin cable attached
[03:47] <dr_willis> tictac232434,  disable the splash screen wth the nosplash option in the menu.lst --> see mine for example --> http://pastebin.com/f793bc3dc
[03:47] <TechPepsi> anyone know about this?
[03:47] <bzrk> because of the udma2 mode
[03:47] <IntuitiveNipple> bzrk: Yes, or an 80-way that's lost one :)
[03:47] <bzrk> yep
[03:47] <_2> IntuitiveNipple saw your question just as i left
[03:47] <TechPepsi> weijia, sorry
[03:47] <tictac232434> TY SO MUCH
[03:47] <IntuitiveNipple> bzrk: but still, even ata/33 should run faster than that
[03:47] <bzrk> yup ^^
[03:47] <_2> IntuitiveNipple dmesg shows nothing odd at all.
[03:48] <smm289> I have made ISO images of CD/DVD's using gnome baker, can I make an image of a Floppy
[03:48] <weijia> ﻿ TechPepsi:@_@
[03:48] <IntuitiveNipple> _2: oh, Agent_bob in disguise huh?
[03:48] <TechPepsi> weijia,  I meant this "cant access mysql, "ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'user'@'localhost' (using password: NO)"
[03:48] <dr_willis> smm289,  the dd command can do that.
[03:48] <R0b0t1> I'm having a problem. When running a Java applet with sound, other sound does not work.
[03:48] <R0b0t1> This is a browser applet, and the game that has sound I'm using is Unreal 2004.
[03:48] <R0b0t1> Any suggestions? Is this a common problem.
[03:48] <weijia> :-D
[03:48] <tictac232434> Dr.willis: Where do I access this file?
[03:48] <TechPepsi> haha darn command v
[03:49] <dr_willis> tictac232434,  its in /boot/grub and you better back up the original first..
[03:49] <tictac232434> ok ty
[03:49] <Spoom> well, i shall assume the latter re my earlier question, i shall do more research and return
[03:49] <bunnyto> HELP !!   W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org hardy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[03:49] <_2> IntuitiveNipple yes not intintional
[03:49] <_2> IntuitiveNipple http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/6925
[03:49] <tavo> problem's out! thank you :D DRWILLIS :D
[03:50] <lig> how do I find out what packages are installed and where they are on ubuntu?
[03:50] <_2> IntuitiveNipple i'll also check the jumpers on the drives. but i think i used slave/master rather than cs
[03:51] <IntuitiveNipple> _2: bzrk am me were discussing several hardware issues: 1) drives are using 'cable select' rather than fixed master/slave. 2) drives are both master or both slave. 3) 40-pin cable, but ata/33 should still run faster than what you're seeing. 4) ata/100 80-pin cable that has lost one line
[03:51] <_2> definitely not 2
[03:52] <IntuitiveNipple> _2: I'd be interested in seeing the *complate* dmesg output from a boot sequence, since the cluses are usually very early in the boot process
[03:52] <_2> IntuitiveNipple ok i can arbitrarrily rule out 2. and 4. and confirm 3.
[03:52] <d_dyer> Can someone help me,i dont have any sound :(
[03:52] <IntuitiveNipple> _2: confirming it is a 40-pin cable?
[03:52] <_2> IntuitiveNipple sure i'll dump a pastebin.
[03:52] <IntuitiveNipple> _2: thanks
[03:52] <_2> yes 40 pin
[03:53] <IntuitiveNipple> _2: It is almost as if the drives are using PIO not DMA mode
[03:54] <IntuitiveNipple> _2: but config says "configuration: mode=udma2"
[03:54] <_2> IntuitiveNipple http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/6926
[03:54] <IntuitiveNipple> _2: I'll take a look now
[03:54] <IntuitiveNipple> 2_: kernel 2.6.15 ? which Ubuntu release is that, Edgy?
[03:54] <tavo> excuse me again where can I find out why does ubuntu gets slow????
[03:55] <_2> IntuitiveNipple dapper
[03:55] <bunnyto> how to know if i have sound
[03:55] <bunnyto> how to know if i have sound?
[03:55] <IntuitiveNipple> _2: ok, thanks
[03:55] <_2> bunnyto cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp   ?
[03:55] <_2> bunnyto but there are better ways
[03:55] <_2> bunnyto sudo alsamixer
[03:56] <_2> might be one of them
[03:57] <d_dyer> Man screw Linux i am switching back to windows,it is SOOO much better then this crap
[03:57] <AkariChan> another lack of patience :)
[03:57] <d_dyer> No,i have had problem after problem with ubuntu
[03:57] <AkariChan> there's never a problem that can't be fixed :)
[03:57] <lw0x15> AkariChan: like a year ago it happend to me like ti happened to d_dyer
[03:57] <chaddy> really original bit of trolling d_dyer
[03:57] <lw0x15> but now
[03:57] <lw0x15> i am happy that i use linx :>
[03:57] <_2> d_dyer never had problems with windows ?
[03:58] <smil3y> oh.... thats a great attitude, whats wrong?
[03:58] <lw0x15> LINUX
[03:58] <DBO> d_dyer, sorry to hear that, but good luck.  I hope things go well for you =)
[03:58] <FloodBot3> lw0x15: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:58] <AkariChan> same.
[03:58] <d_dyer> No i have never had any problems with windows
[03:58] <lw0x15> never switching back again lol
[03:58] <AkariChan> i had a hard time when i used non-gui slackware. i was like OMFG why did i dump windows.
[03:58] <IntuitiveNipple> _2: The first thing I notice that makes me want to probe further is, Linux detects an ICH2 but can't configure it since the IDE ports are already allocated to a previous controller (not reported, strangely!) - I wonder if the two controller drivers are somehow confusing the issue...wrong one answering interrupts, or similar?
[03:58] <DBO> gentlemen, it is best to just let him go at this point.  Fighting it just makes us look petty.
[03:58] <bunnyto> d_dyer: you know Windows is for pansy wankers
[03:58] <tictac232434> Willis: What is the command for executing a document like that in terminal so that I have permission...
[03:58] <_2> d_dyer then you are one of the few.
[03:58] <smil3y> thats amusing though, the same reason why i switched to linux from windows lol
[03:58] <dr_willis> !tab | tictac232434
[03:58] <AkariChan> tictac232434: gksu gnome-terminal
[03:59] <d_dyer> Well i guess thats what i am bunnyto
[03:59] <AkariChan> yeah.  It's like a religion.
[03:59] <dr_willis> tictac232434,   you edit a document, you dont run it.. 'gksu EDITORYOULIKE /path/to/file/to/edit'
[03:59] <AkariChan> you get it, or u gtfo. :)
[03:59] <bunnyto> d_dyer: Ubuntu is to easy
[03:59] <slestak> i have a silly mtp mp3 player.  i have the mtp plugin enabled for rythymbox.  i still cannot see it though..  is this a common problem?
[03:59] <_2> IntuitiveNipple you might be on to something there.   i'll look in the list of static modules and see what i can find.
[04:00] <d_dyer> Bunnyto:if it is so easy then why is it so incomplete?
[04:00] <IntuitiveNipple> _2: It looks like E-IDE is handling ide0 and ide1
[04:00] <chaddy> what sort of player, slestak?
[04:00] <slestak> chaddy: samsung yepp
[04:00] <tictac232434> AkariChan: ok but how do I open a document now?
[04:00] <_2> IntuitiveNipple yeah i think it should be,  but i may be trying to load something later on that shouldn't be loaded on top of that.
[04:00] <slestak> i actaully have 2.  mine i flashed with a firmware that made it standard usb device
[04:01] <AkariChan> tictac232434: open what document?
[04:01] <dr_willis> tictac232434,   you edit a document, you dont run it.. 'gksu EDITORYOULIKE /path/to/file/to/edit'
[04:01] <slestak> but i could never get tthat bin to apply to the second yepp i bout for my wife
[04:01] <_2> IntuitiveNipple let me look into that a bit.
[04:01] <tictac232434> dr_willis:  ty
[04:01] <ryth_> hi everyone
[04:01] <AkariChan> !hi | ryth_
[04:01] <ryth_> is there a way to get xchat to show a list of who is in this channel?
[04:01] <AkariChan> gnome is the best gui
[04:02] <AkariChan> what was the channel to get opinions again
[04:02] <smil3y> AkariChan> agreed, gnome nice and simple yet powerful
[04:02] <dr_willis> ryth_,  if you are using the normal xchat, some times the nick list gets 'moved' way to the right..its there but just 1 pixle wide..  move the mouse around the right side and see if ya get any <--> arrows  and expand the list
[04:02] <slestak> chaddy: this is with a gutsy install as well
[04:02] <dr_willis> ryth_,  not sure about xchat-gnome
[04:03] <IntuitiveNipple> _2: Something else bothers me, all those ide errors at the end of the dmesg about hdc, the CD-ROM - if those continue into /var/log/kern.log and are constant, the time-cost to the kernel of generating that amount of errors would easily explain the lack of speed
[04:03] <AkariChan> smil3y: i used KDE since Corel linux. never liked it. too bulky.  Although i still do apt-get install kde just to use the utilities there.
[04:03] <bunnyto> i dont have sound!
[04:03] <bunnyto> but it is detected by alsa
[04:04] <smil3y> AkariChan> you know what, ive tried KDE since using early suse 6 days or so, it always seems incomplete, you try 4 yet?  abomination
[04:04] <_2> IntuitiveNipple that's from double inserts of ide-disk cdrom  i just corrected that.  i'll have to reboot to see what all is affected.
[04:04] <tictac232434> Thank you so much guys.
[04:04] <tictac232434> I think it will work
[04:04] <dr_willis> bunnyto,  could be the mixer has the stuff set to MUTE.. seen that happen befor. try alsamixer in a terminal
[04:04] <IntuitiveNipple> _2: ok... those are the two issues to follow up then.
[04:05] <ryth_> are there 1239 users in this channel?
[04:05] <soreau> Can someone please tell me what version of compiz will be shipped with Ibex? I'm in #ubuntu+1, but of course, no response.
[04:05] <bunnyto> dr_willis: thanks, it was in analog, i fixed
[04:05] <_2> IntuitiveNipple i copied over some old config files and forgot that  modules was one of them.    i have edited it.   rebooting now.
[04:05] <dr_willis> bunnyto,  seen that happen also. :)
[04:05] <IntuitiveNipple> soreau: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=compiz&searchon=names&suite=intrepid&section=all
[04:05] <bunnyto> dr_willis: audigy
[04:05] <bunnyto> WOHOO I LOVE UBUNTU
[04:05] <dr_willis> bunnyto,  yep. :) i basicially use the analog out now a days.
[04:06] <ryth_> wow.. ok that's ALOT of people in here
[04:06] <AkariChan> smil3y: haha. yeah, no kidding.
[04:06] <dr_willis> ryth_,  the nick list gets a little useless witht hat many. :)
[04:06] <GreySim> If you open a bug for Ubuntu and someone fixes it, is it customary/appreciated to thank them in the bug "thread", or is that just unnecessary noise?
[04:06] <bunnyto> Thanks people!!! if you were Girls, instead of Fat bastards, i would invite you a round of Beers
[04:06] <soreau> IntuitiveNipple: Awesome. Thanks.
[04:06] <AkariChan> ryth_: this is the biggest channel on the server actually :)
[04:06] <AkariChan> !profanity | bunnyto
[04:06] <IntuitiveNipple> GreySim: not customary, but probably appreciated, and bring a smile to the face
[04:07] <dr_willis> ryth_,  come here on the release day of the next release.. and see the #'s
[04:07] <AkariChan> :P
[04:07] <GreySim> Thanks.
[04:07] <nickrud> channel is kinda empty today
[04:07] <AkariChan> so this channel will shift into intrepid based in 19 days?
[04:07] <nickrud> yes
[04:08] <AkariChan> cool :D
[04:08] <Vincent91> Hey, could anyone please test vbl91.dnsalias.net and tell me if apache responds?
[04:08] <IntuitiveNipple> And peace will descend in #ubuntu+1 for a while :)
[04:08] <outbri> So then Intrepid will have a user force of 1200 on irc for intrepid :P
[04:08] <apathadeus> ubuntu++; ?
[04:08] <Agent_bob> IntuitiveNipple hmmm.... http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/6929
[04:08] <AkariChan> indeed. not that #ubuntu+1 was that crowded anyway.
[04:08] <nickrud> nah, +1 will point here, and be really busy ;)
[04:08] <IntuitiveNipple> Vincent91: Yes, it responds with an index.html
[04:08] <AkariChan> #ubuntu-1?
[04:08] <Vincent91> IntuitiveNipple: What did it write?
[04:08] <IntuitiveNipple> Agent_bob: looking now
[04:08] <AkariChan> for hardy users :)
[04:08] <outbri> The current intrepid channel
[04:08] <IntuitiveNipple> Vincent91: let me look in the file :)
[04:09] <Agent_bob> strange.
[04:09] <IntuitiveNipple> Vincent91: "It works!" :D
[04:09] <devil> what the newest in 8.10
[04:09] <smil3y> Vincent91>  yeah works fine
[04:09] <slestak> are mtp-tools required to use mtp plugin on rbox?
[04:09] <nickrud> devil, that's a question for #ubuntu+1 for a while yet
[04:09] <IntuitiveNipple> Vincent91: I did "wget vbl91.dnsalias.net" and just saw it delivered index.html
[04:09] <slestak> since it is in Universe, i guess not
[04:10] <Vincent91> IntuitiveNipple: Thanks a lot. That's what it's supposed to show :)
[04:10] <Miesco> Is there a program to view manuals?
[04:10] <chaddy> slestak: there are some tools you could use to poke at it and perhaps get some meaningful error messages
[04:10] <jspiro> Miesco: you mean Firefox?
[04:11] <Miesco> jspiro: Like in /usr/share/doc
[04:11] <nickrud> Miesco, man
[04:11] <jspiro> Miesco: Wikipedia has good info on basic commands like ls cp cat etc. btw
[04:11] <jspiro> Miesco: try dwww or dhelp
[04:11] <slestak> chaddy: i just saw a post on launchpad abput checking udev rules for libmtp
[04:11] <jspiro> Miesco: no, don't.  Use GNU info, or better yet use pinfo.  Those can show most info
[04:11] <slestak> that seems likely
[04:11] <jspiro> Miesco: use Firefox to view the rest.
[04:11] <Agent_bob> IntuitiveNipple what's that french word that means "i decieved myself" ?    pfft. i'm still using the ubuntu startup scripts on this box.  ;/  that explains it all.       sorry, i'll trouble you no more.
[04:12] <Miesco> K I got dwww and dhelp
[04:12] <chaddy> slestak: I found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-692745.html but I think it might involve reflashing firmware to use UMS
[04:12] <IntuitiveNipple> Agent_bob: That reduces the log chatter a bit :)   It looks like the IDE controllers and how the drivers are dealing with that situation needs to be understood, to determine if that is the root cause or just coincidence
[04:12] <jspiro> Miesco: let me know what you think of them.
[04:12] <devil> i have problem with my browser mozila
[04:12] <chaddy> possibly too extreme a solution
[04:12] <slestak> chaddy: i tried that, but the _good_ firmware wouldnt tak on this one
[04:12] <jspiro> devil: please explain your entire problem on one long long line
[04:12] <Beeftube> hi all, anyone know when ubuntu 8.10 will be released? last I hear it is this month sometime :D
[04:12] <jspiro> ubottu: help
[04:13] <Agent_bob> IntuitiveNipple i think i'm on the answer now.   as per me previous message.
[04:13] <IntuitiveNipple> Agent_bob: you mean you've got built-ins and modules for the same devices?
[04:13] <Miesco> Why is it using konkerer?
[04:13] <slestak> chaddy: why does redmond have to make eth so freakin difficult
[04:13] <Beeftube> !8.10
[04:13] <chaddy> slestak: gives you enormous joy when you solve it
[04:13] <chaddy> ;)
[04:13] <jspiro> Miesco: i dunno.  if it is using konqueror by default, and you don't have konqueror installed, then you should complain to the authors of dwww and dhelp about that.
[04:13] <Agent_bob> IntuitiveNipple i mean i have all custom startup processes from inittab up.   and i "accidentily" wasn't using them.
[04:13] <jspiro> Miesco: do you have konqueror installed?
[04:14] <slestak> yeah, ive been dragging m feet on this issue maybe what, a year
[04:14] <Miesco> jspiro: I uninstalled it, now its using opera
[04:14] <devil> sometimes my mozilla gone if i open one www
[04:14] <IntuitiveNipple> Agent_bob: okay, but that wouldn't affect disk transfer... would it? :s
[04:14] <jspiro> Miesco: meh
[04:14] <chaddy> slestak: you made any forum posts about it?
[04:14] <IntuitiveNipple> Agent_bob: or, do you mean, memory is overloaded ?
[04:15] <Agent_bob> IntuitiveNipple yeah probably.   if not i'll be vack in 2 minutes. and we'll talk some more.
[04:15] <slestak> chaddy: no, im more of a launhpad and irc kinda guy
[04:15] <jspiro> all : why does /msg ubottu 8.10 work fine but /msg ubottu help do nothing?
[04:15] <IntuitiveNipple> Agent_bob: I did wonder earlier about the 512MB
[04:15] <IntuitiveNipple> Agent_bob: ok
[04:15] <Miesco> dhelp doesn't work in opera
[04:15] <Agent_bob> memory is not the issue. Memory Used/Total Percent: 24/502 MB (4%)
[04:15] <jspiro> Miesco: you should file a bug.
[04:15] <Agent_bob> drivers are.
[04:15] <Miesco> Its just going to http://localhost/ in opera
[04:16] <chaddy> forums get a lot of hits, you could do worse than summarizing your problems and what approaches you've tried
[04:16] <Agent_bob> thanks for letting me talk my way through this.   and thanks for tall the input.
[04:16] <jspiro> Miesco: it is?  that's normal.  that's the dhelp web server.
[04:16] <teadict> what's the better way to clean a compiled source installation?
[04:16] <chaddy> other people are likely in the same boat
[04:16] <IntuitiveNipple> Agent_bob: let us know the outcome :)
[04:16] <jspiro> all : who is the ubuntu maintainer of package base-files?
[04:16] <slestak> chaddy: yeah.  wierd.  lsusb doesn't show it connected.
[04:16] <suprsonic> is there a command that I can run to confirm the existance of any exploitable third party binaries installed via apt-get?
[04:17] <jspiro> suprsonic: please explain your question better
[04:17] <slestak> [ 3348.196000] usb 5-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 20
[04:17] <slestak> [ 3353.604000] usb 5-1: device not accepting address 20, error -71
[04:17] <chaddy> well that might be worth a google
[04:18] <agustina> hola
[04:18] <agustina> hola
[04:18] <slestak> yup, im there
[04:18] <suprsonic> since most of the third party apps are installed via apt-get.   Is there a command that reviews the status of any exploits for apps installed by apt-get?
[04:18] <IntuitiveNipple> slestak: device error... can it be externally powered?  -71 can often be caused by power issues on the port, or 'weak' hubs between PC and device
[04:18] <teadict> hola agustina
[04:18] <tictac232434> dr_willis: To follow up your help it worked great now just one more question.
[04:18] <teadict> hay un canal de ubuntu en español
[04:18] <teadict> #ubuntu-es
[04:19] <IntuitiveNipple> slestak: Also, as a test, you should try unloading ehci_hcd and letting the USB 1.1 driver handle it - that can give some useful insights into the root cause
[04:19] <slestak> IntuitiveNipple: its a usb stick style 1g mp3 player plugged right into inspiron usb port.  i will try another port
[04:19] <tictac232434> dr_willis: How do I fix/change the screen the shows right after u have selected your OS for Ubuntu it normally shows a loading screen?
[04:19] <suprsonic> does that help jspiro?
[04:19] <slestak> IntuitiveNipple: do i do that with sudo rmmod?
[04:19] <IntuitiveNipple> slestak: ok, in that case, scrub the power suggestion... but try removing ehci_hcd for a test
[04:20] <IntuitiveNipple> slestak: yes... assuming not devices are currently using that module
[04:20] <jspiro> suprsonic: yes.  I understand now.  The answer is, you should sudo aptitude full-upgrade weekly.  That is good enough for most.  But if that's not enough for you:  does the program "apt-listbugs" do what you want?
[04:20] <slestak> IntuitiveNipple: did you see earlier that this is a gutsy install.  is that getting too old to sweat?
[04:20] <jspiro> suprsonic: sudo aptitude install apt-listbugs
[04:20] <chaddy> R0b0t1: learnt anything from slestak's experience?
[04:20] <suprsonic> perfect jspiro thanks!
[04:21] <teadict> what's the better way to clean a compiled source installation?
[04:21] <agustina> hola
[04:21] <agustina> ! '-<<--<@ HoLa @>-->>-' !i
[04:21] <tictac232434> dr_willis: How do I fix/change the screen the shows right after u have selected your OS for Ubuntu it normally shows a loading screen?
[04:21] <IntuitiveNipple> slestak: I don't see why not... there have been quite a few kernel bugs in ehci_hcd that have been fixed since Gutsy, so that could be the root cause
[04:21] <zetheroo-ubuntu> how do I get my External USB HDD to mount automatically when I plug it in?
[04:21] <zetheroo-ubuntu> :)
[04:21] <chaddy> teadict: make clean or make distclean, perhaps
[04:21] <slestak> zetheroo-ubuntu: it basically should
[04:21] <chaddy> I'm not sure what you mean by better
[04:21] <IntuitiveNipple> slestak: Can you test it against a Hardy or Intrepid LiveCD session? If the issue goes away and it is using the ehci_hcd module, then you've got some confirmation that is the cause
[04:22] <slestak> zetheroo-ubuntu: check output of dmesg after you plug it in
[04:22] <teadict> chaddy: is there a better? already done that.. something more.. em.. by-hand?
[04:22] <zetheroo-ubuntu> slestak: I know it should ... and it used to ... and then it stopped ...
[04:22] <chaddy> I don't know, I'm afraid, teadict
[04:22] <tictac232434> dr_willis: How do I fix/change the screen the shows right after u have selected your OS for Ubuntu it normally shows a loading screen?
[04:22] <IntuitiveNipple> teadict: No, chaddy's suggestions are the convention
[04:23] <IntuitiveNipple> teadict: For debian/Ubuntu packages, use "fakeroot debian/rules clean"
[04:23] <teadict> IntuitiveNipple: what could have possibly gone wrong if the package doesn't go away after a make clean?
[04:23] <IntuitiveNipple> teadict: "go away" ??
[04:23] <slestak> IntuitiveNipple: i have a intrepid alhpa6 partition on this machine.  hardy was never stable enough for soem apps i had so im waiting for II to release before I give up my gutsy install
[04:23] <rUKA> arrobas
[04:23] <slestak> IntuitiveNipple: i will try over there
[04:23] <IntuitiveNipple> slestak: OK... LiveCD test of just that device might help still, though. No need to install anything
[04:24] <rUKA> where are they
[04:24] <teadict> IntuitiveNipple: get cleaned.. for example.. not that is the most important issue, but the menu links are still there
[04:24] <rUKA> ctrl+alt+2 = 0
[04:24] <rUKA> fu**
[04:24] <slestak> zetheroo-ubuntu: what release of ubuntu are you dealing with?
[04:24] <IntuitiveNipple> teadict: OH! You don't mean the source code at all! You mean the installed binary package?
[04:24] <devil> what where are they
[04:24] <jspiro> suprsonic: you're welcome
[04:24] <teadict> IntuitiveNipple: but a package installed by compiling its source
[04:24] <chaddy> teadict: do you maybe want dpkg -r?
[04:24] <teadict> chaddy: no no
[04:25] <teadict> i DID compiled it
[04:25] <IntuitiveNipple> teadict: What package / application is it you're working with?
[04:25] <teadict> awn
[04:25] <teadict> svn src
[04:25] <IntuitiveNipple> teadict: Usually, the source will have a target to uninstall: "sudo make uninstall"
[04:25] <vasilisa> why is it that people say windows is less difficult and stressful than linux, when on windows i just about want to cry/scream every time i use it?
[04:25] <chaddy> vasilisa: I often wonder that
[04:25] <IntuitiveNipple> teadict: If you're not sure, open the source-code's Makefile and look for any target name that suggests it uninstalls the package
[04:26] <tictac232434> My Ubuntu splash theme is not playing once the OS is selected any ideas on how to fix/change splashs?
[04:26] <vasilisa> chaddy: this stupid thing just crashed on me for trying to unzip a file.
[04:26] <purplepower> hi
[04:26] <devil> for vallisa ; coz u first know windows morethan linux
[04:26] <smil3y> vasilisa>  theres always an adjustment period for anything new whether linux > windows or vice versa
[04:27] <purplepower> ?
[04:27] <chaddy> vasilisa: it sort of works for games
[04:27] <slestak> IntuitiveNipple: on the gutsy test, unloading ehci and trying uhci, same message -71
[04:27] <purplepower> game?
[04:27] <chaddy> I don't even use it much for that, anymore
[04:27] <vasilisa> smil3y: I used to only use wndows, and i would always be stressed out by it... switching to linux i figured it out immediately, because people will actually help you
[04:27] <slestak> i will try II and get back in a few minutes
[04:27] <purplepower> chaddy, where u?
[04:27] <teadict> IntuitiveNipple: the source from which i configured and "made" the package is gone.. downloaded it again.. so I should re-./configure it, right?
[04:27] <IntuitiveNipple> slestak: That suggests a definite device problem, or USB host controller issue. Does the device work okay in other PCs
[04:27] <chaddy> Aberdeen, UK, purplepower
[04:27] <slestak> IntuitiveNipple: windows pc's
[04:27] <teadict> IntuitiveNipple: with same prefix
[04:28] <purplepower> hehe, i'm in china.
[04:28] <IntuitiveNipple> teadict: I'd guess so, to recreate the Makefile, yes, then you an look for an uninstall target
[04:28] <smil3y> vasilisa>  exactly......... what free support do you get with a windows install........ ZERO
[04:28] <tictac232434> My Ubuntu splash theme is not playing once the OS is selected any ideas on how to fix/change splashs?
[04:28] <purplepower> I'm a beginner.
[04:28] <slestak> IntuitiveNipple: but the only one of those we have has a problem called World of Warcraft...
[04:28] <chaddy> this place is heaps quieter than it was a year ago; used to give me a headache after five minutes
[04:28] <devil> miss purple from china
[04:28] <vasilisa> smil3y: :) and i need support, lol. because i will TRASH a system.
[04:28] <teadict> ls
[04:28] <IntuitiveNipple> teadict: Yes, same configure options
[04:28] <teadict> ha! :P
[04:28] <chaddy> I like what you've all done with it
[04:28] <teadict> IntuitiveNipple: will do
[04:28] <purplepower> so there're a lot for to study
[04:28] <purplepower> i just don't konw how
[04:28] <perlsyntax> Does anyone use the cairo-dock?
[04:28] <vasilisa> This is also the worst programming environment ever. it doesnt have a standard include folder :(
[04:29] <vasilisa> how do they live
[04:29] <Arcticfox> hey guys I'm haveing a problem with running world of warcraft with wine any sugjestions?
[04:29] <vasilisa> Arcticfox: #winedb if no one helsp
[04:29] <Arcticfox> thank you
[04:29] <perlsyntax> How do i get the unbuntu on the cairo-dock?
[04:29] <devil> perlsyntax> i use cairo-dock why?
[04:29] <teadict> IntuitiveNipple: worked.. must've done something wrong first time.. ty guys
[04:29] <purplepower> my leader let me study linux, because our project need it.
[04:29] <smil3y> Arcticfox>  last I tried it, mind you this was a year ago, it worked great........ what version wine and distro you using
[04:29] <Arcticfox> vasilisa:  no ones in there
[04:30] <perlsyntax> devil, How do i get the unbuntu on the cairo-dock?
[04:30] <vasilisa> Arcticfox: Go to the winedb website too, just look up "winedb" in google, it has instructions for each program.
[04:30] <chaddy> purplepower: what do you want to do with linux?
[04:30] <perlsyntax> menu
[04:30] <vasilisa> maybe its #wine? :/ i forget
[04:30] <chaddy> or are you just viewing it as a learning opportunity?
[04:30] <IntuitiveNipple> teadict: great, glad you got it sorted :)
[04:30] <tictac232434> My Ubuntu splash theme is not playing once the OS is selected any ideas on how to fix/change splashs?
[04:30] <purplepower> sorry, i must go, it's time for lunch. Bye
[04:30] <teadict> IntuitiveNipple: see ya :)
[04:30] <chaddy> tictac232434: aptitude search splash, then install one you fancy
[04:31] <vasilisa> anyway, games shmames
[04:31] <Arcticfox> smil3y: I'm useing 1.0 and I just got linux today whats distro
[04:31] <IntuitiveNipple> vasilisa: #winehq is the wine channel on IRC (I think!)
[04:31] <vasilisa> i prefer to make em
[04:31] <vasilisa> oh right!
[04:31] <vasilisa> winehq!
[04:31] <perlsyntax> devil, i was thinking how can i get the unbuntu menu on it?
[04:31] <FloodBot3> vasilisa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:31] <tictac232434> chaddy: how?
[04:31] <vasilisa> oops
[04:31] <chaddy> tictac232434: you could use synaptic
[04:31] <IntuitiveNipple> Floodbot floods more with those floods of anti-flooding messages
[04:31] <perlsyntax> ?
[04:32] <tictac232434> chaddy: ty 1 sec
[04:32] <perlsyntax> devil, you there?
[04:32] <Arcticfox> smil3y, you there?
[04:33] <tictac232434> Chaddy: U know I am trying to fix the reg one where it show Ubuntu progress on loading?
[04:33] <tictac232434> Chaddy: same concept as the boot screen
[04:33] <chaddy> I think that's usplash
[04:33] <smil3y> tictac232434>  look ay /boot/grub/menu.lst theres something in there about splash, make sure its not commented out
[04:33] <perlsyntax> Does anyone know how i can get the unbuntu main menu on my cairo-dock?
[04:33] <chaddy> you want a progress bar and a wee logo?
[04:33] <smil3y> Arcticfox>  yeah im here
[04:34] <tictac232434> Chaddy: Yea that is the one I am talking about changing
[04:34] <devil> wait for minute
[04:34] <chaddy> what do you want to change it to?
[04:34] <Arcticfox> smiley, did you get that I'm useing 1.0 and i have no idea what distro is I'm new to ubuntu
[04:34] <tictac232434> smil3y:  ty but already been there
[04:34] <tictac232434> Chaddy: The Finger print one on Gnome site
[04:35] <chaddy> ahh, ok
[04:35] <tictac232434> I already got file and everything
[04:35] <tictac232434> Just need to know how to make it work...
[04:35] <chaddy> system>administration>login window
[04:35] <chaddy> have a poke there
[04:35] <perlsyntax> ?
[04:35] <tictac232434> ok ty brb...
[04:35] <perlsyntax> am i talking to the wall?
[04:35] <smil3y> Arcticfox>  well sometimes theres tweaks you have to do, i was using cedega and it worked out of the box until every tuesday update lol then it broke
[04:36] <chaddy> perlsyntax: is cairo-dock like awn?
[04:36] <perlsyntax> yes some what
[04:36] <smil3y> Arcticfox>  try the wine website, they have a wiki or forum that shows compatibilty and latest tweaks for all programs
[04:36] <Arcticfox> smil3y, well the problem isn't openning the program it opens fine but when it's open everything goes cadywompus
[04:36] <tictac232434> Chaddy: Wrong place
[04:36] <chaddy> try asking in #cairo-dock, perlsyntax
[04:37] <tictac232434> Chaddy: Do u know where the file for the Ubuntu progress boot screen is?
[04:37] <smil3y> Arcticfox>  and your drivers are ok for 3d and everything?
[04:37] <IntuitiveNipple> Arcticfox: "cadywopmus" - can I adopt that as my new favourite phrase for 'bugs' ?:D
[04:37] <chaddy> tictac232434: look under the local tab
[04:37] <smil3y> Arcticfox>  nvidia drivers up to date I mean
[04:37] <IntuitiveNipple> oops, wrong already! cadywompus
[04:38] <R0b0t1> chaddy: You said something to me about a lesson :|
[04:38] <R0b0t1> I sadly forgot it.
[04:38] <chaddy> heh
[04:38] <R0b0t1> However, did someone answer my question?
[04:38] <zetheroo-ubuntu> slestak|afk: http://pastebin.com/d25639de5
[04:38] <chaddy> at least you stopped spamming
[04:38] <R0b0t1> *did not see it)
[04:39] <chaddy> tictac232434: there is an add button there that I suspect is what you want
[04:39] <devil> edit source list
[04:39] <tictac232434> Chaddy: ok 1 sec
[04:39] <chaddy> but you've confused me a bit, I don't know where you'd be seeing a gnome footprint and a booting progress bar together
[04:39] <srankin> hello
[04:39] <chaddy> hi srankin
[04:39] <tictac232434> Chaddy
[04:40] <tictac232434> Chaddy: Ur talking Login screen
[04:40] <tictac232434> Chaddy: I am talking about splash screen right before that
[04:40] <srankin> hi chaddy
[04:40] <tictac232434> chaddy: where is shows Ubuntu then progress bar
[04:40] <IntuitiveNipple> chaddy: Possibly the original gnome theme with the gnome splash progress bar - it was in Gutsy and prior I think
[04:40] <IntuitiveNipple> chaddy: or maybe tictac232434 means usplash after all :)
[04:41] <Nallep> I have a fresh install of ubuntu 8.04, I was looking at permissions and ownerships of file in /etc and a few files are owned y group id 999, there is no group with id 999, why did a fresh install set that?
[04:41] <tictac232434> IntuitiveNipple: I am talking about the screen where it shows Ubuntu and progress bar underneith it...
[04:41] <Dar1us> Nallep: bugs :)
[04:41] <Dar1us> Nallep: I don't see it here though
[04:41] <IntuitiveNipple> tictac232434: Yes, that is called usplash
[04:41] <chaddy> tictac232434: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11478
[04:42] <tictac232434> IntuitiveNipple:  Oic how do u change them?
[04:42] <Arcticfox> ok sorry i was on the wine site seeing if there was anything to help
[04:42] <vasilisa> *rips hair out* Forget this crap
[04:42] <Arcticfox> smil3y, my drivers are fine i switched to ubuntu today and before that i was able to run wow fine on winblows
[04:43] <devil> edit source list ->sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list --> deb http://repository.cairo-dock.org/ubuntu gutsy cairo-dock --> close n update sudo-apt get update and then install
[04:43] <tictac232434> Chaddy: I will try but I think its out dated from what I just read in it
[04:43] <Nallep> I assume it's ok to sudo chown :root   those files?
[04:43] <slestak> Arcticfox: but it is a native win32 app, so it gonna run _better_ over there
[04:43] <IntuitiveNipple> Nallep: Nicely spotted! Can you post a bug report to launchpad with the output of "sudo find /etc -group 999" and let me know the bug # ?
[04:43] <chaddy> tictac232434: it will at least give you google fodder
[04:43] <chaddy> ;)
[04:43] <slestak> Arcticfox: ive had good luck with cedega for Civ4
[04:43] <tyso1> anyone, i dont know whats going on, the add/remove option is missing from my applications tab and also synaptic manager is missing from system tab. and when i try and run updates it says im not the root user can anyone help me figure out whats going on here?
[04:43] <Arcticfox> IntuitiveNipple, you most certainly can use cadywompus i think it's a great description for bugs xD
[04:44] <tictac232434> Chaddy: Ok ty I will try then report back lol
[04:44] <vasilisa> i wish my mom used linux, so i could show her my programs without going through all this windows compiling crap
[04:44] <slestak> tyso1: are you using the sudo command?
[04:44] <vasilisa> how hard is cross-compiling
[04:44] <smil3y> Arcticfox>  run this in a terminal glxinfo | grep rendering
[04:44] <Arcticfox> sletak, I'm not very tech savvy I don
[04:44] <tyso1> in a terminal?
[04:44] <Nallep> IntuitiveNipple: ok gimme a few minutes
[04:44] <chaddy> tyso1: aiui unless you are a sudoer you won't see those apps
[04:44] <IntuitiveNipple> Arcticfox: I *love* it, I'm going to be annoying folks with it, I'm sure :D
[04:45] <slestak> IntuitiveNipple: over in II, it seemed to not error out on ehci, but wasnt visible in lsusb or rbox
[04:45] <tyso1> chaddy how do i make it so i am a sudoer?
[04:45] <jspiro> all : is there an IRC channel for Ubuntu Christian Edition?  I have a dansguardian-related question, but the people in #dansguardian haven't answered me yet.  (There are only 3 people there.)
[04:45] <jspiro> maybe a Ubuntu CE channel could also help me
[04:45] <tictac232434> Chaddy: Yep dude thats a diff splash screen
[04:45] <chaddy> vasilisa: I hear it's quite easy once you get going with it, a lot of gentoo users have smoothed down the edges
[04:45] <tictac232434> Chaddy: thats the one where after u login
[04:45] <slestak> tyso1: if you arent current;y a sudoer, you likely will not be able to make yourself one
[04:45] <chaddy> ok, I'll have another look, tictac232434
[04:45] <Arcticfox> smil3y, in terminal it says direct rendering: yes
[04:45] <Dar1us> jspiro: tried the dansguardian mailing list?
[04:45] <zetheroo-ubuntu> could someone help me get my external hdd to start mounting automatically again ...
[04:45] <tictac232434> Chaddy: Ty appreciate it
[04:45] <vasilisa> chaddy: Well i'll look into it
[04:46] <IntuitiveNipple> Nallep: From an initial check-up on 999, I *think* is used by the "ubuntu" user/group for LiveCD environments, but how it gets carried over like that to those files is probably via the ubuiquity installer... You might want to post the bug against the "ubiquity" package initially
[04:46] <jspiro> Dar1us: I will try that next.
[04:46] <zchef2k> is there a way to name your ubuntu drive like you do, in say, windows and mac? I would like for the volume's name to mount as such in other os's
[04:46] <slestak> Arcticfox: do you have nvidia, ati, intel?  what chipset?
[04:46] <smil3y> Arcticfox>  ok, maybe this will help?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[04:46] <IntuitiveNipple> slestak: not being visible to lsusb is worse in many ways!
[04:46] <ryth_> How do I get a C++ compiler for ubuntu?
[04:46] <jspiro> zchef2k: maybe e2label?  but I dunno of it'll help
[04:46] <ech0dish> how do i get this dell poweredge 2500 to boot off the ubuntu cd?
[04:46] <jspiro> ryth_: why do you want a c++ compiler?
[04:46] <jspiro> ech0dish: what have you tried?
[04:46] <ryth_> or something....
[04:46] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: What version of Ubuntu ?
[04:46] <mgroman> gangsterlicious: hello?
[04:46] <Arcticfox> slestak, I'm running some crapily old intel i think
[04:46] <ech0dish> have set bios to boot off cd first and have set it to os install mode
[04:46] <Nallep> IntuitiveNipple: ok I'll go post the bug right now,
[04:47] <ech0dish> its the desktop version
[04:47] <slestak> IntuitiveNipple: yeah.  think i will sneakernet the files to this device.  i only do this a few times a year.
[04:47] <jspiro> ech0dish: and what happens?
[04:47] <jspiro> Nallep: let us know the bug URL
[04:47] <ech0dish> it continues to go strait to the winblows 2000
[04:47] <Mimi> ryth_,   sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:47] <tyso1> chaddy: i am the only user on my laptop. unless i messed something up. do you have any info on hoe to get it back to normal?
[04:47] <Nallep> where do I post this bug?
[04:47] <slestak> Arcticfox: it may be too old to run wow well in emulation.  do an lspci and see if you can tell what video card you have
[04:47] <Mimi> !bug
[04:47] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: There are *issues* with the PowerEdge boot sequence, because it has a SCSI-mounted CD-ROM and there *were* problems in the CD boot scripts, but I thought Colin Watson fixed them a long time ago
[04:47] <ryth_> Mimi thanks
[04:48] <jspiro> Nallep: a tip: first tell us the entire content of the bug report you are going to post.  Then we can critique it before you post it.
[04:48] <Arcticfox> slestak, with all do respect. do a what? lol
[04:48] <Nallep> !paste
[04:48] <ech0dish> i can't get it to boot off it
[04:48] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: If it isn't booting the CD, that suggests the CD image is incorrect. I suggest you run an MD5sum check on the CD
[04:48] <slestak> Arcticfox: sudo lspci will list all the devices the pci bus sees, the video card is _always_ listed there
[04:48] <Nallep> ok just a sec, I'll write something up and put it in pastebin first
[04:48] <jspiro> ryth_: why do you want a c++ compiler?  In most cases, it is a mistake to install one.
[04:48] <chaddy> tictac232434: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[04:48] <zchef2k> jspiro: so if the volume is ext3fs it will work, since ext3 is ex2, effectively?
[04:49] <slestak> tyso1: usually the grub menu has a recovery option to get access as root.
[04:49] <ech0dish> i'll download and burn another copy i guess
[04:49] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: Just test the CD
[04:49] <ech0dish> will test some other boot disks first though
[04:49] <jspiro> Nallep: just squish it all onto 1 line then paste it all directly in channel if it is less than 100 words.
[04:49] <jspiro> zchef2k: e2label works fine on ext3 drives
[04:49] <tyso1> slestak: once there can i make it so i am always signed in as root?
[04:49] <slestak> whats the ubuntu way to make a sudoer?  is it visudo?
[04:50] <slestak> im not sure, its always worked for me.
[04:50] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: md5sum /dev/cdrom and compare against the MD5 sum on the Ubuntu download pages for the disk image you have
[04:50] <ryth_> Mimi where do you find out about where to get things like that?
[04:50] <slestak> do a man visudo, i think that is the way
[04:50] <Arcticfox> slestak: ok i typed that in my terminal what will it say before listing my graphics card
[04:50] <jspiro> ryth_: why do you want a c++ compiler?  In most cases, it is a mistake to install one.
[04:50] <IntuitiveNipple> slestak: yes, it usually runs something more friendly than 'vi' though
[04:50] <chaddy> slestak: I think so too
[04:50] <tictac232434> Chaddy: ty
[04:50] <tictac232434> Chaddy: I will check it out
[04:50] <chaddy> no worries, tictac232434
[04:50] <chetnick> I am trying to built the computer, when choosing memory it says "Verify your motherboard can cache the full amount of RAM you install. what specification for motherboard is that?
[04:50] <ech0dish> the light on the cd trey is blinking..
[04:50] <slestak> IntuitiveNipple: whats more friendly than vim???
[04:50] <ryth_> why would it be a mistake?
[04:50] <jspiro> ryth_: why do you want a c++ compiler?
[04:51] <IntuitiveNipple> slestak: don't be a cadywompus ! :D
[04:51] <ech0dish> will boot another computer with the disk real quick, that should let me know if the disk is working properly
[04:51] <AkariChan> slestak: for terminal ?
[04:51] <AkariChan> try nano or pico.
[04:51] <ryth_> jspiro: why would it be a mistake?
[04:51] <srankin> !xorg
[04:51] <AkariChan> !gedit | slestak
[04:51] <Mimi> ryth_, experience. also, when i dont know something, I go on google.com and search. For example, on your case, I would have searched  "how to install c++ compiler in ubuntu"  without the quotation marks, and WOW, the first result tells you how to :D
[04:51] <jspiro> ryth_: to compile homework is a good use.  to compile Linux software is usually a mistake.  almost all Linux software is available in main or universee
[04:51] <Nallep> bug report incoming
[04:51] <srankin> !wireless
[04:51] <Nallep> I have a fresh install of Ubuntu 8.04.1
[04:51] <Nallep> While looking through the permissions and ownerships of files in /etc  I noticed a few files part of the group id# 999
[04:51] <Nallep> I believe these files should be part of the root group
[04:51] <Nallep> Here's a list from "sudo find /etc -group 999"
[04:51] <FloodBot3> Nallep: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:51] <Nallep> /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:51] <slestak> i was being sarcastic
[04:52] <jspiro> I told Nallep to put it all on one line
[04:52] <jspiro> could someone unban him?
[04:52] <slestak> Arcticfox: lspci | grep VGA
[04:52] <Nallep> damn
[04:52] <IntuitiveNipple> Nallep: no.... just post us the launchpad bug report number and we can go look at it
[04:52] <ech0dish> cd boots fine on another machine
[04:52] <tarzan> .
[04:52] <jspiro> Nallep: just squish it all onto 1 line next time :)
[04:52] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: dirty CD read heads?
[04:53] <srankin> !updates
[04:53] <Nallep> jspiro: I will, lol
[04:53] <chaddy> jspiro: it's horses for courses, really, I find myself having to compile things fairly regularly
[04:53] <IntuitiveNipple> jspiro: nooooo! I'd asked him to create a launchpad bug report and give me the# :D
[04:53] <ech0dish> hrm possibly, but i can see the lens and it looks clean
[04:53] <jspiro> chaddy: you are more advanced
[04:53] <Arcticfox> slestak: yeah it's telling my i have intel
[04:53] <chaddy> but then I poke more than is healthy, itym
[04:53] <chaddy> ;)
[04:53] <IntuitiveNipple> poking is fun!
[04:53] <DIFH-iceroot> is there something for easily deleting the content from a file but not the file itsself? normally i am using vi and delete all  lines or delete the file and create a new one with the same name. is there a better/faster way?
[04:53] <ryth_> I've done quiet a bit of google in the last day and 1/2 with linux.. :/
[04:53] <srankin> !files
[04:54] <ech0dish> anyone know if there is another setting that i have to adjust in the bios?
[04:54] <jspiro> Nallep: that is a fine bug report.  But we can't help fix it until you post it at http://launchpad.com
[04:54] <Mimi> ryth_,  i hope you also find this interesting http://ubuntuprogramming.wikidot.com/one
[04:54] <Nallep> jspiro: ok, I'm just filling out the bug report form, gimme a minute
[04:54] <ryth_> hehe ok I'll check it out
[04:54] <slestak> Arcticfox: id recommend trying cedega, its pretty much point and click.  its 5 bucks a month though.  sounds like your just starting so may be helpful
[04:54] <jspiro> ech0dish: dunno.  Ask in #ubuntu-server but make sure to tell them you're using ubuntu desktop edition.  Still, they probably can help you.
[04:54] <ech0dish> perhpas i can hook an ide cd rom to it?
[04:54] <slestak> it is wine + their frontend
[04:55] <incandenza> DIFH-iceroot: from the command line, simply ">file"
[04:55] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: I usually give the CD drive a good blow with an air-compressor or my lungs to sort those issues out.
[04:55] <nickgarvey> what is the command to tell what package provides a command?
[04:55] <DIFH-iceroot> incandenza: thx
[04:55] <Arcticfox> slestak: unfortunantly I don't have 5 bucks a month I suppose I'll head to a wow forum and ask around there then?
[04:55] <jspiro> nickgarvey: dpkg -S commandname
[04:55] <jspiro> oops
[04:55] <IntuitiveNipple> nickgarvey: dpkg-query -S '*searchterm*'
[04:55] <jspiro> nickgarvey: dpkg -S /usr/bin/commandname
[04:55] <slestak> Arcticfox: which intel chipset did it say you have?
[04:55] <d0wn> is there any way to see what driver my webcam is using?
[04:55] <ryth_> Mimi: thanks :)
[04:55] <nickgarvey> IntuitiveNipple, jspiro: thanks
[04:56] <slestak> Arcticfox: nevermind, sorry i couldnt help
[04:56] <Arcticfox> slestak: thats fine you've atleast taught me somthing about a new for me opperating system thanks for your time
[04:56] <jspiro> ryth_: so, out of curiosity, what turns out to be the answer?  are you writing your own software or compiling something to make it work on your Linux PC?  if the latter, is it already in universe?
[04:57] <jspiro> :)
[04:57] <slestak> Arcticfox: np, good luck w it.  i kinda think it may be the age of the hardware
[04:57] <ryth_> I'm thinking about programming somethings.. just for fun and practice.. I'm not really sure how to get to 'universe' either
[04:58] <jspiro> ryth_: then sudo aptitude install build-essential
[04:58] <jspiro> ryth_: but I recommend you not program in c++
[04:58] <jspiro> repeat : all : is there an IRC channel for Ubuntu Christian Edition?
[04:58] <arrrghhh> the apache site tells me to chmod 640 the password file for authentication and chown root:nogroup the same file.  but when i put in my credentials it fails, and the log says that it can't access my password file!
[04:58] <IntuitiveNipple> d0wn: udevinfo --query=all --attribute-walk --name=video0
[04:59] <jspiro> arrrghhh: I bet you will get a faster answer if you re-ask that in #ubuntu-server
[04:59] <usser> jspiro, why not, what kind of advice is that?? you MUST start with c or c__
[04:59] <usser> c__=c++
[04:59] <IntuitiveNipple> jspiro: You have something against object-oriented programming?
[04:59] <jspiro> usser: i started with qbasic
[04:59] <Dreamglider_> can anyone tell me why my system monitor is messed up like this > http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotsv2.png
[04:59] <Dreamglider_> and how i might fix it
[04:59] <jspiro> usser, IntuitiveNipple: c++ is too hard.  it's been taking me months to learn so far
[04:59] <jspiro> i hear it takes 10 years to learn
[04:59] <IntuitiveNipple> jspiro: pfffft, took me about 4 months
[04:59] <arrrghhh> jspiro, thanks!
[05:00] <jspiro> Dreamglider_:  describe what you see, for those of us without web browsers
[05:00] <jspiro> arrrghhh: no problem
[05:00] <chaddy> jspiro: as a rule of thumb if you spend 8 hours a day on anything for 10 years you'll become an expert
[05:00] <usser> jspiro, qbasic if since depends on when u start, qbasic is for 12-14 years, C is more close to real world thus harder
[05:00] <jspiro> ryth_: consiider ruby or python or PHP instead
[05:00] <jspiro> chaddy: makes sense.
[05:00] <Dreamglider_> jspiro, the windows is messy, its like its sliced up
[05:01] <IntuitiveNipple> Dreamglider_: Looking at that screenshot, it looks as if you've got severe theme issues. It looks like it has used part of the Gnome default theme too
[05:01] <jspiro> Dreamglider_: please describe in more detail.  And not to me:  to everyone.
[05:01] <jspiro> :)
[05:01] <usser> jspiro, no thats a bad advice you dont jump into php right away or you're gonna miss little things, ie how stuff really works under the hood
[05:01] <jspiro> usser: debatable.
[05:01] <Odd-rationale> jspiro: Dreamglider_'s issue look slike redraw problems...
[05:01] <jspiro> usser: if you want to get stuff done, jump into php.
[05:01] <Odd-rationale> I say start with bash... :P
[05:01] <jspiro> usser: if you want to learn deeply, learn c++.
[05:02] <IntuitiveNipple> If you want to get things done... get off IRC! :p
[05:02] <joshual> i'm having just horrible dvd playback quality, not only is the picture grainy, but also playback stutters every few seconds... anybody have ideas for me?
[05:02] <jspiro> IntuitiveNipple: true :)
[05:02] <usser> IntuitiveNipple, +1
[05:02] <Dar1us> you can learn plenty of concepts without C++
[05:02] <Dar1us> try Python
[05:02] <ryth_> jspiro: why not C++?
[05:02] <Dar1us> it is OO but much friendlier than C++
[05:02] <Dar1us> very widely supported too
[05:02] <Dreamglider_> thats it its drawn funny kinda like the aspect ratio is ]out of ratio]
[05:02] <IntuitiveNipple> Dar1us: I disagree, it is far too easy to be lost in the loose grammar in Python
[05:02] <Nallep> IntuitiveNipple, jspiro: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/282019
[05:03] <memnoch> hmm i wonder if it works like mirc
[05:03] <abby> Hey GUys!
[05:03] <chaddy> hi abby
[05:03] <abby> So how is everyone?
[05:03] <RolandD> hello all
[05:03] <IntuitiveNipple> Dar1us: who-ever had the Python idea to be able to mix tabs and spaces (both invisible) as required indent markers, and then not allow them to mix inside the same function, was an idiot!
[05:03] <Mimi> oooffftooopppiiiiic
[05:03] <IntuitiveNipple> Nallep: Thank you, looking now
[05:03] <chaddy> hi RolandD
[05:04] <RolandD> hi chaddy
[05:04] <Odd-rationale> I think JavaScript is a good one to start with... OO, C syntax, use all over the web, can make cool apps with xul, etc...
[05:04] <ryth_> so you guys are saying to use python cause it's easier to learn?
[05:04] <RolandD> I am a newbie Ubuntu user and have a strange issue
[05:04] <j0> how can i force samba to only allow connections with cifs... i'm having problems with windows clients thinking they can't store files >2gb on my samba exports.. i'm using ext3
[05:04] <RolandD> When I open a website it is fine
[05:04] <rsc--> eck, it's stupid to mix tabs and space anyway
[05:04] <abby> I just installed this App, I have to say I absoultely love Ubuntu, dont know if I will ever go back to WIndows FUll time
[05:04] <RolandD> when I open another tab with another page of the same site, it doesn't show up
[05:04] <RolandD> doing a traceroute to the site it gets lost
[05:04] <Dar1us> IntuitiveNipple: ah well, works OK if you have a non-stupid editor
[05:05] <lex_> I'm having a hard time finding information on how to install the Realtek HD Audio driver for linux. Anybody have experience here?
[05:05] <RolandD> doing the same traceroute from a windows machine, all is fine
[05:05] <m0u5e> is there a way to "overclock" my screen brightness?
[05:05] <Nallep> IntuitiveNipple:  I assume it's safe to chown :root   those file?
[05:05] <IntuitiveNipple> Nallep: I would think so... I've assigned that bug to me now
[05:06] <IntuitiveNipple> Dar1us: It causes a *lot* of problems if you're a packager or debugger, hopping in and out of source files and packages creating patches... a real pain.
[05:06] <Dreamglider_> it's like it's sliced up and put back together with a bit of offset
[05:07] <ryth_> I'm trying to install a game and when it's finally installed all I get is the spash screen in one window and then a blank black screen in another.. any ideas?
[05:07] <memnoch>  /msg ubottu etiquette
[05:08] <ajhtiredwolf>  anyone good with lirc? I am having strange problems, I keep having to reset to get it to work with mythtv and i always have to start it/ irexec manually
[05:08] <Dar1us> IntuitiveNipple: well as a _dev_ it's a nice language :)
[05:09] <IntuitiveNipple> Dar1us: I would still disagree there in several respects. Next biggest issue for me is the VisualBasic style of not requiring a marker (semi-colon) to indicate end of a statement :)
[05:09] <RolandD> ﻿/msg ubottu etiquette
[05:09] <ryth_> anyone here have Eve Online?
[05:09] <chaddy> ryth_: I played with it for a while, not got it currently
[05:10] <chaddy> X³ is due for linux any day now, you know?
[05:10] <losher> ajhtiredwolf: tried the mythtv channels?
[05:10] <ryth_> chaddy: know how to install it? it doesn't seem to work for me
[05:10] <Dar1us> IntuitiveNipple: I don't find that a problem either :)
[05:10] <ajhtiredwolf> losher, yeah they are always unresponsive or just ubuntu bash, but the problem is more with lirc itself
[05:10] <Ilubdub> where can i find different login screens to download and install?
[05:10] <bunnyto> how to enable the ATI 3d drivers?
[05:10] <Odd-rationale> Ilubdub: try http://gnome-look.org
[05:10] <Ilubdub> thx
[05:11] <IntuitiveNipple> Dar1us: the point for both being, explicit grammar requirements should be *visible*
[05:11] <dr_willis> Ilubdub,  theres some gdm themes in the package manager.. or  hit gnome-look.org
[05:11] <chaddy> ryth_: as I recall I just went here: http://www.eve-online.com/download/linux.asp
[05:11] <Odd-rationale> IntuitiveNipple: they are called gdm themes...
[05:11] <Odd-rationale> oops
[05:11] <Odd-rationale> i mean Ilubdub
[05:11] <IntuitiveNipple> Odd-rationale: lovely hehehehe
[05:11] <chaddy> there's a deb you can install there
[05:11] <Odd-rationale> IntuitiveNipple: sorry... :(
[05:11] <IntuitiveNipple> Odd-rationale: no, don't worry, I enjoy randomness
[05:11] <Odd-rationale> !find gdm
[05:12] <losher> ajhtiredwolf: sorry to hear that. I never got lirc working myself either.
[05:12] <Odd-rationale> !info gdm-themes | Ilubdub
[05:12] <ryth_> chaddy: yea that's the one I installed it doesn't work here.  I got all the requirements for the thing too..
[05:12] <losher> ajhtiredwolf: there was an lirc mailing list once upon a time http://www.lirc.org/html/help.html
[05:12] <ryth_> chaddy: it just gives me a black window and won't let my cursor out
[05:12] <Odd-rationale> blubuntu's a cool theme... i forgot about that one...
[05:12] <chaddy> you on hardy 32 bit, ryth_?
[05:13] <cmatheson> is the purpose of the mini.iso just a smaller iso?  or will it allow me to only install the minimal amount of packages (e.g., no GUI, etc.)?
[05:13] <Odd-rationale> cmatheson: it is a net install..
[05:13] <IntuitiveNipple> Nakkel: It looks like the 999 group is an issue with ubiquity... developing a patch now
[05:13] <ryth_> chaddy: hardy?
[05:13] <Odd-rationale> cmatheson: use only if you have good internet connection...
[05:13] <ajhtiredwolf> losher, yeah it is annoying, i can get it to work.. sorta, but everytime i close mythtv i have to reset it before it will work again. Its like this. "reset it, it works with mythtv but nothing else, close mythtv, it works with totem and has a huge delay in mythtv."
[05:13] <chaddy> which version of ubuntu are you using, ryth_?
[05:14] <Odd-rationale> cmatheson: advantage is that you don't have to update after you install as it downlads the latest packages during the initial installl...
[05:14] <chaddy> how are you installing it and how is it failling?
[05:14] <chaddy> -l
[05:14] <Odd-rationale> !mini | cmatheson
[05:14] <losher> ajhtiredwolf: weird. Sorry I can
[05:14] <losher> ajhtiredwolf: weird. Sorry I can't help
[05:14] <memnoch> gah
[05:14] <HoNgOuRu> when I press the log off button, it takes like 2 minutes to show me the window with the turn of option, please help
[05:14] <ryth_> chaddy: I just downloaded and installed it the other day..
[05:14] <ryth_> chaddy: ubuntu that is.
[05:14] <morningwalker> y cant i use my sync in Ubuntu??
[05:14] <chaddy> ok
[05:15] <cmatheson> Odd-rationale: thanks
[05:15] <ajhtiredwolf> losher, do you know where the lirc log file is?
[05:15] <ryth_> chaddy: I've not really had too much of a problem with anything else.  Just this.
[05:15] <chaddy> and you're not using it in wine?
[05:15] <Entelin> I have two probably simple questions,  i noticed ubuntu is lacking a inittab file, how to I modify  ctrl alt delete to start a  shutdown -h  instead of a restart?,  secondly I dont want the system to hunt for a dhcp address on startup, nor do I want it to assign any address to eth0, just setup the loopback and thats all.  I go between networks constantly since I use my laptop for networking work,  and so im always using ifconfig  or r
[05:15] <Entelin> unning dhclient manually
[05:15] <ryth_> chaddy: what is wine?
[05:15] <morningwalker> y cant i sync my ipod touch on ubuntu??
[05:15] <christoffer> Could anyone tell me what you think is the coolest mplayer feature, and why?
[05:16] <Entelin> wine-hq.org
[05:16] <Odd-rationale> christoffer: playback video in text! :P
[05:16] <Entelin> er
[05:16] <Entelin> http://www.winehq.org/
[05:16] <christoffer> Odd-rationale, how do you do that? Could you give me a link?
[05:16] <morningwalker> hello.... anyone, i need to know how to use my ipod touch with ubuntu, cus firstly ubuntu doesnt recognise the player...!!!!!
[05:16] <ryan_> How do you cd to the root folder?
[05:16] <chaddy> ryth_: I think you might have to try running it under metacity
[05:16] <IntuitiveNipple> Entelin: Ubuntu uses "upstart" *but* it does pull in a legacy inittab if it is there. I'm not sure about assigning the command to a key-sequence in upstart, but I suspect it is possible. check the upstart web site for docs
[05:16] <losher> ajhtiredwolf: not offhand. Is it not mentioned in the config file?
[05:16] <Entelin> hmm ok
[05:16] <morningwalker> !ipod
[05:16] <pen> anyone knows the gui for subversion?
[05:17] <chaddy> alt + f2 to bring up the run dialogue, then "metacity --replace" no quotes, then run it
[05:17] <macucation> anyone having problems with awn?
[05:17] <Entelin> rapidsvn
[05:17] <Odd-rationale> christoffer: http://wiki.xfce.org/consoleaddict#mplayer
[05:17] <ryth_> chaddy: I'm kinda lost .. ah ok
[05:17] <christoffer> Odd-rationale, Thank you =)
[05:17] <ajhtiredwolf> losher /var/log but it isnt there
[05:17] <chaddy> macucation: I've never had anything but problems with awn
[05:17] <IntuitiveNipple> Entelin: regarding the DHCP network issue, that is happening because NetworkManager is handling the interface. If you add a stanza into /etc/network/interfaces for the interface, NetworkManager (< 0.7) will ignore that interface and let you handle it manually
[05:17] <macucation> good to know
[05:17] <macucation> chaddy, you know another good dock
[05:17] <ryth_> chaddy: ok what does that actually?
[05:18] <ryth_> chaddy ok what does that actually do?
[05:18] <chaddy> ryth_: once you are done "compiz --replace" will restart the fancy decorations
[05:18] <chaddy> ryth_: fancy decorations
[05:18] <Rezagrats> I want to make some flash movies like in macromedia flash MX. is there an alternative ?
[05:18] <ryth_> chaddy: will any of this change my desktop?
[05:18] <chaddy> metacity was there before, it is less spangly but more reliable, basically what you are doing is freeing up resources to give to the game
[05:19] <bunnyto> Warcraft 3 doesnt Work!! help!! i can see the video... but then black screen
[05:19] <ryan_> exit
[05:19] <chaddy> ryth_: yes, absolutely
[05:19] <Entelin> IntuitiveNipple, ok having a look at that now
[05:19] <losher> ajhtiredwolf: have your grepped all the files in /var/log for lirc?
[05:19] <ryth_> chaddy: how would I change it back after?
[05:19] <chaddy> ryth_: "compiz --replace"
[05:19] <memnoch> so how do i addresse my issue
[05:19] <Ilubdub> what's compiz?
[05:19] <ajhtiredwolf> losher yeah
[05:19] <chaddy> macucation: you might try cairo-dock
[05:20] <macucation> great, thanks
[05:20] <chaddy> someone else was in with problems with that earlier
[05:20] <chaddy> ;)
[05:20] <ryth_> chaddy: everything still looks the same..
[05:20] <chaddy> try running the game, ryth_
[05:20] <DIFH-iceroot> !compiz | Ilubdub
[05:21] <ryth_> chaddy: same problem.. :/
[05:21] <bunnyto> HELP!! Warcraft 3 doesnt Work!! help!! i can see the video... but then black screen and then hangs
[05:21] <chaddy> sorry I missed what the original problem was, ryth_?
[05:21] <chaddy> splash screen then black screen?
[05:22] <christoffer> My xbmc won't stay maximized.. any ideas?
[05:22] <bunnyto> chaddy: just black screen
[05:22] <losher> ajhtiredwolf: maybe poke around in the mailing list archives? http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=lirc-list
[05:22] <chaddy> sorry bunnyto, I was asking ryth_
[05:22] <ryth_> chaddy: it shows the spash screen in one window and then a black screen same size in another window.. and doesn't do anything else
[05:22] <amazin> wtf :D
[05:23] <RolandD> How can I make my local user have permissions to www-data files? All is running localhost. This just makes things easier to edit the files :)
[05:23] <chaddy> ryth_: have you tried it under windows? you're sure your hardware is up to it?
[05:24] <ryth_> yea it works great in windows..
[05:24] <RolandD> I already added my users to the www-data group but no effect :-|
[05:24] <chaddy> nvidia card?
[05:24] <ryth_> yep
[05:24] <Odd-rationale> RolandD: give the folder and subfolders/file 775 permissions?
[05:24] <ryth_> drivers installed also
[05:24] <chaddy> nvidia proprietary drivers?
[05:24] <ryth_> yea
[05:25] <Odd-rationale> RolandD: e.g. sudo chmod -R 775 /path/to/dir
[05:25] <RolandD> Ok, will do that
[05:25] <RolandD> I thought it could be done via user management :)
[05:25] <Odd-rationale> RolandD: if that doens't work, then make it 777
[05:25] <Rezagrats> I want to make some flash movies like in macromedia flash MX. is there an alternative ?
[05:25] <Odd-rationale> RolandD: but you are part of the group that owns the dir, then 775 should work...
[05:26] <lex_> I need some help installing my devices. When I issue the command, "lspci -nn" all devices are unknown except for the AMD processor. I have a HP G60 laptop with Nvidia 8200 chipset. http://nopaste.org/p/auB5R3iNQ
[05:26] <chaddy> ryth_: I'd have a look on this forum thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=271268&page=2
[05:26] <chaddy> there have been people experiencing the same type of problem, and there is at least one solution, though it looks a bit longwinded
[05:27] <ryth_> chaddy: k thanks :)
[05:27] <chaddy> if you read on there will likely be an easier way
[05:27] <chaddy> no bother
[05:27] <brian_> I can't seem to get my Apache to run Perl CGI. It used to on my old distro.
[05:27] <IntuitiveNipple> lex_: run sudo update-pciids
[05:28] <RolandD> Odd-rationale: thanks for the insight. Of course the second 7 because I am in the group and I am not the owner ;)
[05:28] <GreedyB> hey I just re-installed Ubuntu and I'm having a hard time finding my other hard-drive.. its got some weird issue in gparted it was working yesterday before I reinstalled
[05:29] <lex_> IntuitiveNipple: Done. http://nopaste.org/p/au7bjZ4Zw
[05:29] <IntuitiveNipple> lex_: That's fixed is it?
[05:30] <lex_> IntuitiveNipple: the update worked
[05:30] <IntuitiveNipple> lex_: great :)
[05:31] <ryth_> chaddy: hehe that is a bit past me atm..  guess I'll have to switch back if I wanna play that
[05:31] <lex_> IntuitiveNipple: I downloaded the realtek hd audio driver from the realtek site, failed installation. and I was told earlier I need to install something called ath9k to get my wifi card operational.
[05:31] <chaddy> GreedyB: ls /dev/sd* and see if you recognize it
[05:32] <chaddy> ryth_: you could try a different version of the nvidia driver
[05:32] <chaddy> you might land lucky
[05:32] <chaddy> ryth_: ever tried any of the X series?
[05:32] <waan> Is media inserted into a card reader automatically mounted?
[05:33] <GreedyB> chaddy: I see sdc1 which I know it is
[05:33] <chaddy> GreedyB: any mention of it in /etc/fstab
[05:33] <chaddy> ?
[05:33] <waan> I have an internal Ricoh card reader, but the sdcard doesn't show up, how can I manually mount it?
[05:34] <h08817> anyone here using backtrack?
[05:34] <waan> h08817: not right now, what do you need to know?
[05:34] <GreedyB> chaddy: I don't see anything with sdc but I tried viewing it with gparted and Its giving out a random error.
[05:34] <h08817> well i tried to boot up with the live cd and i get error 11 fatal server error when I run startx
[05:35] <Makuseru> Is there any way in Ubuntu, to make an ISO out of a DVD?
[05:35] <chaddy> GreedyB: I'd probably be looking into fsck about now
[05:35] <h08817> I've checked all over online and I haven't found a solution
[05:35] <chaddy> dvdrip can do that, I think, Makuseru
[05:35] <smm289> im looking for a progam that will keep my SD data card in sync with a local folder or a regular basis.  Any suggestions. preferable a gnome GUI front end
[05:35] <waan> h08817: no idea, but I installed archlinux instead, I found backtrack to such
[05:35] <smj> I usually use dd.
[05:36] <usser> Makuseru, sudo dd if=/dev/dvd of=filename.iso
[05:36] <smj> dd if=/dev/dvd of=/some/filename
[05:36] <h08817> ah ok thanks
[05:36] <usser> Makuseru, just make sure to unmount the dvd fiirst ie sudo umount /dev/dvd
[05:37] <IntuitiveNipple> lex_: I generally avoid the realtek and atheros stuff, because their lack of support for linux developers means there are far too many issues to solve.
[05:41] <tanlaan> Hello Everyone
[05:41] <smm289> when I insert my SD card its mounted to a folder called disk, how do I change the name of the mount point when the SD card is inserted?
[05:42] <dr_willis> smm289,  set the things 'label' to somthing other then blank -  under windows, is one way
[05:42] <dr_willis> if label is 'SDCard' it would get mounted to /media/SDCard  (i think)
[05:42] <dasickis> hey waht would i do to get my computer to boot in 5s?
[05:42] <smm289> ??? windows, i'd rather no go to a windows machine to fix my SD cards label
[05:42] <tanlaan> Anyone know of a fix for the no TTYs when using the new nvidia driver?
[05:43] <dr_willis> smm289,  then go install the ntfsprogs and find its lable tool
[05:43] <smm289> how to I change the label, a nautalis method preferably
[05:43] <dasickis> i want the same setup as the people did at the Plumbers Conference
[05:43] <Ilubdub> how do i change my cursor?
[05:43] <dasickis> i don't need to print, etc.
[05:43] <dr_willis> Im not sure nautalius can change a vfat/ntfs  volumes label,
[05:43] <tanlaan> dasickis: do you have an eeepc?
[05:43] <smm289> if I had the ntfsprogs tools installed would it just be a right click option
[05:44] <dr_willis> smm289,  No it would not.. those are command line tools
[05:44] <smm289> lol bummer
[05:44] <dr_willis> smm289,  try right clicn/properties on the mounted thing.. perhaps ya can change it there.
[05:44] <smm289> I right click on it and I can go to a drive or volume tab
[05:45] <smm289> options for Mount Point, File System, and Mount Options
[05:45] <ryan_> What is a quick way in Ubuntu to scan your PC for viruses.
[05:46] <chaddy> you want to scan your windows partition from linux, ryan_?
[05:46] <dasickis> tanlaan: no but i'd settle for 15s
[05:46] <ryan_> chaddy: No. I want to scan my linux partition.
[05:46] <chaddy> I'd look at clam
[05:47] <dasickis> tanlaan: but i have a PC i want to put in my car so it doesn't need what most computers need
[05:47] <dasickis> tanlaan: i just want to start it up and boot to my program
[05:47] <tanlaan> dasickis: With a quick search on google you can find a bunch of people who have already tried some things to make linux boot faster, there are actually a few that are "ubuntu" specific.
[05:47] <dasickis> i tried to but i get forum posts about people thinking about doing it
[05:47] <BobCFC> Viruses are generally not a problem for Linux because we have separate root and user accounts
[05:47] <tanlaan> dasickis: if you give me a couple minutes I can relog in to here from GNOME and I can give a few helpful links
[05:48] <tanlaan> dasickis: One second and I'll be back
[05:48] <pen> anyone knows the gui for subversion?
[05:48] <amazin> wb amazin :-)
[05:48] <pen> best one
[05:49] <balz> This may be a bit of a weird question, but is it possible to bridge two directories on separate drives so that they act as a single directory?
[05:50] <RolandD> pen: I am looking for the same thing :P
[05:50] <balz> In other words, i'd have a directory on drive A, but when drive A is full, the OS continues to write to drive B
[05:50] <chaddy> balz: you can certainly mount one in say, /media/somedisk/ and another in /media/somedisk/someotherdisk/
[05:50] <RolandD> also a program to monitor commits :)
[05:50] <pen> RolandD, are you taking cs courses?
[05:50] <pen> RolandD, :)
[05:50] <chaddy> ahh, you might want LVM balz
[05:50] <RolandD> I tried CommitMonitor for Windows on wine but little success ;)
[05:50] <chaddy> I know little of that
[05:50] <RolandD> cs?
[05:51] <balz> chaddy:  yeah that sounds right... i'm not terribly familiar with them.  Is it possible to add one post-installation?
[05:51] <chaddy> I know little of that
[05:51] <zetheroo-ubuntu> can someone help me sort our my external HDD so that it mounts automatically
[05:51] <balz> chaddy:  okay. thanks for the tip!
[05:52] <balz> Is it possible to add an LVM across 2 directories instead of across two devices?  Also, can this be done post-installation?
[05:52] <chaddy> zetheroo-ubuntu: ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/ -ah for the uuid then add that to /etc/fstab with appropriate mount point and options
[05:52] <Entelin> IntuitiveNipple, /etc/event.d/control-alt-delete  is where you can change the command for that btw
[05:52] <balz> !lvm
[05:52] <tanlaan> dasickis: Hello, I've got one link that promises a boot time of 19 seconds
[05:53] <dasickis> ok
[05:53] <IntuitiveNipple> Entelin: Thank-you! I shall remember that :)
[05:53] <Entelin> np
[05:53] <IntuitiveNipple> Entelin: ooo it looks like I can have some shell fun with that, too :D
[05:54] <Entelin> yeah i like changing it to halt on my laptop,  because shutting it down is just   ctrl alt backspace  (kill x),  ctrl alt delete,   shut the lid, put it in my bag and im done
[05:54] <tanlaan> dasickis: http://tinyurl.com/28jo7z
[05:54] <zetheroo-ubuntu> chaddy: why is it so complicated?
[05:55] <chaddy> zetheroo-ubuntu: you asked the question the wrong way
[05:55] <IntuitiveNipple> Entelin: what no hibernate? :)
[05:55] <chaddy> it's not complicated really, it's just a series of simple steps
[05:55] <zetheroo-ubuntu> chaddy: and how should I have asked it?
[05:56] <Entelin> IntuitiveNipple, I dont trust that new fangled stuff ;)
[05:56] <chaddy> well, I don't know if you want it to automount at boot, which I answered, or if you want it to automount on insertion, for a start
[05:56] <zetheroo-ubuntu> chaddy: it was doing all of the above and then just stopped doing it ...
[05:56] <Makuseru> Hi, I seem to be having some probems, when ever i try to install something it says "E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)" "E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)" what does this mean. and how can i fix it?
[05:57] <Entelin> only takes a sec to boot with dhcp off and xwindows off anyway
[05:57] <smm289> will intrepid support 802.11n better than Hardy does
[05:57] <chaddy> zetheroo-ubuntu: when things seem complicated it's often a good time to have a wee rest till it all seems simple again
[05:57] <zetheroo-ubuntu> chaddy : ha ... thanks ...
[05:57] <IntuitiveNipple> Entelin: :p
[05:58] <zetheroo-ubuntu> anyone know how I can easily restore the default settings for my external hdd (usb) ?
[05:58] <chaddy> zetheroo-ubuntu: you could try rebooting and see if it gets better
[05:58] <chaddy> it's dirty but it solves a lot of stuff
[05:58] <chaddy> sometimes
[05:58] <zetheroo-ubuntu> chaddy : nope ... does nto help
[05:58] <IntuitiveNipple> Entelin: I generally use suspend... the thing would last about 4 days suspended, and it never is left that long
[05:58] <zetheroo-ubuntu> where is fstab located?
[05:59] <chaddy> zetheroo-ubuntu: plug it in then run dmesg|tail, see if there is anything registering
[05:59] <chaddy> it might be broken
[05:59] <Entelin> my laptop is about 5,6 some years old now,  and the battery is basically discharged at all times
[05:59] <chaddy>  /etc/fstab
[05:59] <Entelin> lol
[05:59] <dasickis> tanlaan: thanks
[05:59] <dasickis> tanlaan: i'll take a look at it and see if i can improve on top of it
[06:00] <Entelin> the battery will last mabe an hour from full charge,  but if you leave it off for even a day it will be discharged anyway
[06:00] <zetheroo-ubuntu> chaddy: its not broken becasue it mounts when I double-click the hdd icon in Nautilus
[06:00] <chaddy> getting an hour out of that old a battery is pretty good going
[06:00] <tanlaan> dasickis: Cool =], I'm gonna try a few of them myself
[06:02] <Entelin> IntuitiveNipple, its funny though because it really is a fairly old laptop now,  but it runs like it did on day 1, its got an nvidia 5200go in it so really it can render most anything,  I really have no complaints with the speed of it.
[06:02] <GNUNIX> is there any windows live messenger alternative in ubunutu
[06:02] <zetheroo-ubuntu> anyone?
[06:03] <chaddy> zetheroo-ubuntu: this is probably worth a look: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-353412.html
[06:03] <Entelin> toshiba laptops are generally really good,  I have an ancient toshiba laptop 166 mhz, and it still runs great too
[06:03] <Entelin> last time i checked anyway...
[06:03] <chaddy> GNUNIX: try pidgini
[06:03] <chaddy> pidgin*
[06:03] <chaddy> also amsn
[06:04] <IntuitiveNipple> Entelin: I know what you mean, the old ones if kept from accumulating 'fluff' will still be fast and responsive
[06:05] <Entelin> some laptops really do degrade physically over time though,  my sister has some dell and its noticably worse now than it used to be
[06:06]  * RolandD reboot
[06:07] <lakitu2> does anyone know how to tell the results of Kaspersky's kav-scanner? it ran (on an ntfs drive, so don't tell me about not needing AV =)), & then it just returned me to a command prompt (or whatever that's called). i need to find out which files had viruses, & if they got removed.
[06:07] <ZaBuZa> yo
[06:08] <Makuseru> Hi, I seem to be having some probems, when ever i try to install something it says "E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)" "E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)" what does this mean. and how can i fix it?
[06:08] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu: maybe it creates a log file in the current directory, or in /var/log/ ?
[06:09] <macucation> how do i enable compositing?
[06:09] <lakitu2> IntuitiveNipple, ok let me check. what current directory, of hte binary?
[06:09] <dr_willis> Makuseru,  be sure you dont have any other apt apps 5running
[06:09] <IntuitiveNipple> Makuseru: That means you have some other package manager program already running
[06:09] <lakitu2> *the
[06:09] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu: the directory you were in when you ran the program... only a guess though
[06:09] <chaddy> macucation: compiz --replace
[06:09] <lakitu2> IntuitiveNipple, ok, thanks
[06:10] <whatvn> hi, every body! how can I change server header using mod security, I use Hardy?
[06:10] <macucation> said, no whitelisted driver found
[06:10] <whatvn> I just setup a new server and I don't want people view my server header?
[06:11] <BobCFC> macucation, make sure you have 3d driver installed by going to System->Admin->Hardwaredrivers tick nvidia etc then reboot, then to enable effects goto System->Prefs->Appearance and click on Visual Effects
[06:11] <whatvn> how can I change it to iis or something else?
[06:11] <kr00l> Hello everyone! I need some help with these directions I'm on step 12 here is the site http://www.wikihow.com/Get-Eve-Premium-Content-Working-on-Linux
[06:11] <lakitu2> IntuitiveNipple, ok i think you're right, i found a kaspersky directory, but now it says Permission denied to access it, & i can't sudo cd kaspersky
[06:11] <lakitu2> IntuitiveNipple, do i have to be root?
[06:11] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu: no, sudo is the same thing
[06:12] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu: what directory did you find?
[06:12] <lakitu2> IntuitiveNipple, then how do i get permission
[06:12] <chaddy> I should sit down and write a How To follow howtos
[06:12] <vasilisa> Okay I have a MASSIVE question that i really need answered: Whats the worst that can happen if i decide to do a version upgrade? Im in feisty still
[06:12] <vasilisa> are we talking stuff not working, etc?
[06:12] <lakitu2> IntuitiveNipple, well, /var/log/kaspersky , & then /kav4ws
[06:12] <chaddy> kr00l: you realize that you might have made a mistake at any stage of that and we could be here till we're old trying to find out where?
[06:13] <IntuitiveNipple> vasilisa: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/UpgradeFromOldVersion
[06:13] <lakitu2> IntuitiveNipple, kav4ws is the one that won't let me in
[06:13] <kr00l> chaddy, i followed it up to 12 and i'm stuck
[06:13] <dr_willis> vasilisa,  some drivers may stop working from what ive seen.
[06:13] <lakitu2> IntuitiveNipple, kav4ws is the scanner, btw
[06:13] <chaddy> what are you stuck with, kr00l?
[06:13] <ryan_> how do you kill a program in the terminal?
[06:13] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu2: sudo ls -al /var/log/kaspersky/kav4ws
[06:13] <Entelin> vasilisa, the worst that could happen is your monitor implodes sending glass into your eyes blinding you, where you then trip over something breaking your neck.
[06:13] <chaddy> ryan_: killall <programname>
[06:13] <vasilisa> Entelin: thanks lol
[06:13] <clayg> is there any way to speed up the length of time it takes for the screen to go black when you lock it?! I just typed up a post on a forum for guys with bitchy gf's. I hadn't sent it and locked the screen to goto the bathroom when i got back the screen was sort of dim but you could still ready EVERYTHING. Thnk god my gf didn't see it. Is there a way to set the time it takes from when you click lock screen until it goes black?
[06:14] <vasilisa> ok i wont upgrade, im in the middle of programming projects
[06:14] <ryan_> killall firefox
[06:14] <dr_willis> an implosion wouldent send glass outward. :)
[06:14] <ryan_> oops
[06:14] <amazin> ryan: kill <process id>
[06:14] <amazin> or killall
[06:14] <kr00l> chaddy, i don't know how to export the registry to /root/.wine/user.reg because it doesn't exist
[06:14] <ryan_> thanks
[06:14] <lakitu2> IntuitiveNipple, http://pastebin.com/f528ed3b
[06:14] <clayg> first thunderbird with it keep using my real name now this, im starting to think ubuntu is playing a joke on me
[06:14] <Ev4n> *
[06:15] <airtonix> !who
[06:15] <BobCFC> kr00l, try wine regedit.exe
[06:15] <clayg> or is there a better lock screen program? like 3rd party, i caan't afford for these things to keep happening
[06:15] <chaddy> kr00l: you don't know how to run regedit?
[06:15] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu2: Okay, so you've got access to it. You can read it now. probably use: sudo less /var/log/kaspersky/kav4ws/kavscanner.log
[06:15] <chaddy> kr00l: what BobCFC said
[06:16] <luis_> hi there!
[06:16] <lakitu2> IntuitiveNipple, ah ok. thanks
[06:16] <BobCFC> welcome
[06:16] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu2: Then you can press the [End] key to flick to the end of the file, and Page-Up to work backwards
[06:16] <luis_> I need to install postgresql
[06:16] <FLeiXiuS> Why is it with the network manager I cant connect to wpa networks?
[06:16] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu2: Press Ctrl+C to exit out of 'less'
[06:16] <kr00l> chaddy, no i am in regedit and i just can't figure out how to export the registry because the path of "#
[06:16] <kr00l>     * Export the entire registry to /root/.wine/user.reg" doesn't exist
[06:16] <luis_> but I got lost of mistakes
[06:16] <lakitu2> ok
[06:17] <IntuitiveNipple> FLeiXiuS: problem with NetworkManager talking to wpa_supplicant possibly?
[06:17] <chaddy> in that instance /home/username/.wine/ is probably root
[06:17] <luis_> for example: I don't know where the GNU Readline is
[06:17] <FLeiXiuS> IntuitiveNipple yeah but why? It's a fresh install.
[06:17] <chaddy> possibly drive_c or something
[06:17] <IntuitiveNipple> FLeiXiuS: does it connect if you do it manually?
[06:17] <FLeiXiuS> via WPA supplicant, I havent tried..I didnt want to have to do the config manually just yet.
[06:18] <FLeiXiuS> I've done it on my other laptop with wpa_supplicant manually and it worked
[06:18] <FLeiXiuS> but I shouldn't have too.
[06:18] <IntuitiveNipple> FLeiXiuS: my point is, your original question was assuming NetworkManager is the culprit. I'm wondering if the laptop can connect *at all*
[06:19] <IntuitiveNipple> FLeiXiuS: I'd check  /var/log/wpa_supplicant.log and /var/log/daemon.log
[06:20] <outbackwifi> !hi
[06:20] <amenado> FLeiXiuS--> using network manager with the correct key -- you can not connect?
[06:20] <FLeiXiuS> amenado: yes
[06:20] <FLeiXiuS> IntuitiveNipple: the daemon log has some interesting details
[06:21] <amenado> FLeiXiuS--> is the interfaces file correct? all the necessary entries for WPA is there? or is it missing?
[06:21] <FLeiXiuS> WARN get_secrets_cb() coulnt get connecton secrets: applet-device-wifi.c.1497
[06:21] <FLeiXiuS> amenado, lol yes I'm sure bud... I'm convinced it's the nm-gui..but...I'd like to know why,.
[06:22] <f|uke> i want auto ssh tunnels,. can anyone help me?
[06:23] <amenado> FLeiXiuS--> try and do an strace of the nm and see if you can follow through where it fails
[06:23] <chaddy> f|uke: you want directions to a how to or you have a specific problem?
[06:23] <ganesh> dual boot problem...i have 2 hard disk i lost grub after installing windows..if i reinstall grub using live cd i loose mbr...how can i fix it?
[06:23] <IntuitiveNipple> amenado: there are no entries in /etc/network/interfaces when NetworkManager (<0.7) is managing an interface
[06:24] <f|uke> well, if someone can tell me how to write a script to run a command in the /network/if-up.d/
[06:24] <FLeiXiuS> amenado, yeah well it's not crashing..it's just feeding me invalid passphrase.
[06:24] <f|uke> that would be good enough
[06:24] <BobCFC> ganesh, when you reinstall grub you can create a menu entry to boot into windows
[06:24] <chaddy> ganesh: grub-install is not recognizing your windows install?
[06:24] <fedex1993> Yes i got some sort of error right before the ubuntu splash screen is there like some .txt file or some file that it saves it too so i can read it since it only shows up for about a second or two?
[06:24] <prof3ta> ganesh: same happened to me and reinstalling grub from live cd worked like a charm
[06:25] <IntuitiveNipple> FLeiXiuS: The way nm-applet works is to store the secret in the user's key file, which should be unlocked when you log-in. However, if you've changed the user password manually the one stored for automatic unlock will be incorrect, and then nm-applet (and other programs) would not be able to access the key file.
[06:25] <chaddy> ganesh: to explain your question a bit, you don't need the windows mbr if you have grub
[06:25] <kr00l> chaddy ok i figured out 12 but now i need help with 13
[06:25] <IntuitiveNipple> FLeiXiuS: As a test of whether it has a problem with the stored key, have you tried creating a connection manually?
[06:25] <dr_willis> fedex1993,  disable the splash screen with the 'nosplash' boot option is one way to see the messages better.
[06:25] <chaddy> kr00l: go have a cup of coffee and see if it makes sense when you come back
[06:26] <chaddy> if it doesn't take some time to think through your question
[06:26] <kr00l> chaddy, I don't know command line. I don't know how to give a folder root permission
[06:26] <FLeiXiuS> IntuitiveNipple: nope, again this is a fresh install
[06:26] <morth_> anyone know how to change an Icon on 1 App?
[06:26] <fedex1993> dr_willis, yes but it like right before it does the ubuntu logo in the middle then a then the scrolling bar starting it to load and what not
[06:26] <ganesh> chaddy: BobCFC: if i select windows xp  it says ntldr missing but its newly installed xp..i tried many times re installing ..same thing..
[06:26] <FLeiXiuS> I wanted to connect it up right away to process updates prior configurations
[06:26] <IntuitiveNipple> FLeiXiuS: of what version?
[06:27] <ganesh>  chaddy:how to add and what to add in boot.lst?
[06:27] <Arcticfox> ok I'm haveing trouble with wow I'm having layer problems so i think it's a driver problem any suggestions?
[06:27] <FLeiXiuS> IntuitiveNipple: intrepid
[06:27] <IntuitiveNipple> FLeiXiuS: also, what Wifi chipset and driver? (sometimes they can be culprits)
[06:27] <morth_> How do i change my Icon on One program Only? i got a picture i want it to be.
[06:27] <geenome> hey I have a phillips calera sic4700/37 and it works but only sort of and the picture looks horrid is there a workaround for this?
[06:27] <dr_willis> fedex1993,  i tend to disable the framebuffer, and splash screens with the 'nofb nosplash' options -   that way i get a nice text display of the messages. dmesg command MIGHT give a clue as to the errors.
[06:27] <IntuitiveNipple> FLeiXiuS: ahhh... so, NetworkManager 0.7 ... there's still issues on that, you need #ubuntu+1 for support on that
[06:27] <gnufs> hello all
[06:27] <gnufs> is there a way other than equivs to create a meta-package?
[06:27] <chaddy> ganesh: that's a windows problem, I think you need to copy over ntldr from your windows install media to your installation
[06:27] <f|uke> I dont need you people at all :D
[06:28] <chaddy> fairly sure it's not an mbr issue, anyway
[06:28] <gnufs> equivs keep giving strange errors
[06:28] <DigitalFiz> anyone know of a program comparible to quickbooks for linux?
[06:28] <FLeiXiuS> IntuitiveNipple: It's a broadcom card with the restricted module downloaded and installed.
[06:28] <Arcticfox>  ok I'm haveing trouble with wow I'm having layer problems so i think it's a driver problem any suggestions? anyone?
[06:28] <chaddy> f|uke: we never said you did
[06:28] <outbackwifi> f|uke: you could start by helping other people
[06:28] <ganesh> chaddy:but it was working fine before reinstalling grub..i have 2 hard disks does it matters?
[06:28] <f|uke> I have helped a few. I'm only about 3 weeks into this tho ;)
[06:29] <IntuitiveNipple> FLeiXiuS: check in with #ubuntu+1, maybe email the network-manager team mailing list, or post a bug report to launchpad for preference
[06:29] <outbackwifi> f|uke: so what fuels this arrogance?
[06:29] <chaddy> ganesh: windows is telling you you are missing ntldr, it does that fairly often
[06:29] <amazin> :D
[06:29] <chaddy> usually when you need ntldr
[06:29] <f|uke> Not arrogance,. just happy that i figured something otu
[06:29] <Arcticfox> anyone?
[06:29] <f|uke> *out
[06:29] <outbackwifi> ganesh: you need to boot into recovery console and fixmbr
[06:29] <chaddy> f|uke: ;)
[06:29] <IntuitiveNipple> outbackwifi: I think f|uke means he's for pleasure :D
[06:30] <amazin> windows is great.. u can download linux with it
[06:30] <fedex1993> dr_willis, how can i disable the framebuffer so i can see the txt?
[06:30] <outbackwifi> IntuitiveNipple: oh ok enjoy
[06:30] <paul68> outbackwifi: parently he's a quick learner
[06:30]  * outbackwifi is happy for him
[06:30] <geenome> hey I have a phillips calera sic4700/37 and it works but only sort of and the picture looks horrid is there a workaround for this?
[06:30] <ganesh> outbackwifi: i ll try and come back..it gave a warning that it may alter partition table..
[06:30] <balz> I can access webmin from the localhost, but not from a client... I'm not sure where to look first. any ideas?
[06:31] <balz> same with mythweb, btw
[06:31] <outbackwifi> ganesh: the best thing it will do is wipe out your windoze partition :)
[06:31] <f|uke> yep! got my server connected through sshfs and resumable vnc. I feel mad powah!
[06:31] <IntuitiveNipple> balz: firewall, or routing?
[06:31] <chaddy> f|uke: that's leet, you should stay
[06:31] <dr_willis> fedex1993,  edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst  or at the grub menu, hit 'e' to edit the boot lines and append 'nofb nosplash' to the end.
[06:31] <chaddy> ;)
[06:31] <swajak_> wtfffffff
[06:31] <IntuitiveNipple> f|uke: you just made me laugh... thanks :)
[06:31] <balz> IntuitiveNipple:  i looked at my router config and i don't see anything that would prevent it from working.  besides, i'm trying to access it on the local network, not from the internet
[06:31] <swajak_> wtfffffffffffffffffffffffff
[06:32] <f|uke> :)
[06:32] <IntuitiveNipple> balz: I meant the firewall on the local PC !
[06:32] <losher> balz: is it just mythweb/webmin, or is it all web pages? What about the main page?
[06:32] <IntuitiveNipple> balz: what error are you seeing?
[06:32] <whatvn> how can I setup server can access using ssh? I already public and update Ip through Dydnms
[06:32] <outbackwifi> swajak_ : do you have an issue
[06:32] <whatvn> some one can help?
[06:32] <kr00l> chaddy: i type in "chmod 755 /home/robert/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/CCP/EVE" but it says cannot access. do i have to do sudo first?
[06:32] <fedex1993> okay ty dr_willis
[06:32] <outbackwifi> whatvn: do you have ssh-server installed?
[06:32] <dr_willis> fedex1993,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer   has some info, disable the framebuffer, and also append 'nosplash' to the options
[06:32] <balz> losher:  i'm not following you.  I have webmin on a media server and i'm trying to access it from a client on the network
[06:32] <chaddy> whatvn: install openssh-server and open port 22 for it
[06:32] <f|uke> whatvn, install openssh-server, forward port 22 in your router
[06:32] <whatvn> yes
[06:32] <f|uke> damnit
[06:33] <fedex1993> ty very much dr_willis
[06:33] <chaddy> probably, kr00l
[06:33] <Arcticfox> is anyone here able to give advice when it comes to running world of warcraft?
[06:33] <whatvn> I installed it already
[06:33] <whatvn> and open port 22
[06:33] <outbackwifi> whatvn: what is not happening?
[06:33] <kr00l> chaddy, didn't help. Do you have any ideas?
[06:33] <BobCFC> kr00l, try using speech marks for the filename because it has spaces?
[06:33] <dr_willis> Arcticfox,  check the wine forums/app database would be the best advice
[06:33] <losher> balz: webmin is just a web application. Your http server serves it up. I'm asking if you can contact the web server from the client
[06:33] <dr_willis> !appdb | Arcticfox
[06:33] <chaddy> step 13 was it, kr00l?
[06:33] <f|uke> open in the firewall and forward from the router?
[06:33] <whatvn> and I dont know the way to access using ssh?
[06:33] <whatvn> using user?
[06:33] <kr00l> Chaddy, yes
[06:34] <balz> IntuitiveNipple:  I get a network timeout error for webmin (from a client) and my browser redirects me to the OpenDNS 'website not found' page for mythweb
[06:34] <whatvn> or i can add another user?
[06:34] <outbackwifi> whatvn: ssh user@yourserver
[06:34] <Arcticfox> dr_willis: I've drawn a blank there I'm troubleshooted everywhere
[06:34] <swajak_> outbackwifi just girl issues, nvm
[06:34] <whatvn> can i add another user only for ssh?
[06:34] <IntuitiveNipple> balz: what address are you entering in the browser? a domain-name or an IP?
[06:34] <Arcticfox> * I've
[06:34] <balz> losher:  I can't get either webmin or mythweb from the client.
[06:34] <chaddy> kr00l: try Program\ Files
[06:34] <balz> losher:  is that what you're asking?  sorry if i'm being dense... i'm rather new at this
[06:34] <outbackwifi> whatvn: yes you can
[06:34] <dr_willis> Arcticfox,  i gave up on WoW and Wine.. ever update of WoW broke omthing that then the next wine release fixed.. till the next update.. I gave up on WoW soon afterwards.
[06:34] <chaddy> you probably need to escape the space
[06:35] <balz> IntuitiveNipple:  https:10000 for webmin
[06:35] <losher> balz: and what happens if you type http://ip-address-of-server ?
[06:35] <whatvn> how? can I see your command :)
[06:35] <balz> IntuitiveNipple:  server/mythweb for mythweb ... both used to work
[06:35] <balz> losher:  one sec. let me try that
[06:35] <outbackwifi> whatvn: System->Administration->Users & Groups
[06:35] <balz> losher:  i've been using host names thus far
[06:35] <kr00l> Chaddy, I have no idea what you are talking about. what do i have to type into the terminal?
[06:35] <BobCFC> kr00l, use speech marks for filenames with spaces like chmod 755 "/home/rob/.win/programfiles"
[06:35] <Arcticfox> dr_willis: well I'm not haveing trouble with anything but layers  but Idk what to do with drivers and shit cuz it isn't my graphics card
[06:35] <IntuitiveNipple> balz: you need to be *precise* in showing us what you type/use - those you just mentioned would never work, and we can't guess what you might mean
[06:36] <whatvn> I would like to use terminal, I think it good :D, thank Outbackwifi
[06:36] <losher> balz: one step at a time. Start with the ip address if possible
[06:36] <outbackwifi> whatvn: adduser
[06:36] <outbackwifi> !adduser
[06:36] <whatvn> thank you!
[06:36] <kr00l> BobCFC that didn't do anything
[06:36] <whatvn> hope all of you have a good day! :)
[06:36] <kr00l> BobCFC anyway you can take remote control and look at what i have going on here?
[06:36] <balz> losher:  when i just type in the address (192.168.1.3) i get a page that says "it works"  this is the mythweb message, I believe
[06:37] <paul68> balz it means that your php is working
[06:37] <IntuitiveNipple> balz: what happens when you go to https://192.168.1.3:10000/       ?
[06:37] <outbackwifi> balz: when you do a netstat -l | grep 10000 does it show your ip-address also?
[06:37] <BobCFC> kr00l, are you sure the file exists? also it is CASE SEnsitiVE so make sure capital letters are correct
[06:38] <BobCFC> kr00l, you can use tab key for autocompletion
[06:38] <balz> IntuitiveNipple:  that works...  odd
[06:38] <jim_p> !atheros
[06:38] <IntuitiveNipple> balz: not at all... you werent' using the correct URL is all
[06:38] <kr00l> BobCFC: i'm looking at them in my file browser and that's how i got the location
[06:38] <balz> IntuitiveNipple:  what did I get wrong?  lol tihs is oh-so-common for me
[06:39] <BobCFC> kr00l, capitals?
[06:39] <chaddy> kr00l: can you cd to that directory?
[06:39] <kr00l> i'm copying it directly
[06:39] <IntuitiveNipple> balz: I'm not being offensive here, but the way you were describing the issue was coming across as "wishy-washy" - not precise, so I figured you were guessing not thinking about it
[06:39] <balz> IntuitiveNipple:  i used to just type in the server's hostname, which is just "server", followed by :10000 ... and that would work
[06:39] <outbackwifi> balz: not unless you had server resolving to your ip address
[06:39] <kr00l> if I cd /home/robert/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/CCP/EVE it says no file or directory
[06:40] <IntuitiveNipple> balz: Yes, that should work *if* the LAN DNS server is working correctly to resolve names for the LAN
[06:40] <chaddy> balz: you'd have to set that sort of behaviour up in /etc/hosts
[06:40] <balz> I see.
[06:40] <BobCFC> kr00l, you need to use speech marks
[06:40] <outbackwifi> chaddy: that would have to be done in all the lan hosts
[06:40] <balz> well sort of... i thought my router handled hostname resolution
[06:40] <BobCFC> kr00l, there is a space in Program Files
[06:40] <chaddy> well not have to in the sense that that's the only way to do it, yes
[06:40] <IntuitiveNipple> balz: However, you said earlier that when it didn't work, you were redirected to OpenDNS... that suggests on that machine the DNS server is now an external one, that doesn't know about the PCs on your LAN
[06:40] <kr00l> BobCFC i have no idea what a speech mark is
[06:40] <BobCFC> kr00l, " speech makrs"
[06:40] <balz> IntuitiveNipple:  and no offense taken! Don't worry!  I do tend to get very confused very quickly
[06:40] <chaddy> kr00l: quotation marks, inverted commas
[06:41] <outbackwifi> kr00l: double apostrophe "
[06:41] <lakitu> can i mount an iso & boot from it? with what prog
[06:41] <Ujjwol> is there any ogg converter for ubuntu
[06:41] <IntuitiveNipple> balz: I suspect on the client PC, you've changed at some point to using the OpenDNS servers and don't have the entries in the /etc/hosts file for your local PCs
[06:41] <chaddy> Ujjwol: mplayer is good for that stuff
[06:41] <outbackwifi> lakitu: a) by burning it to a cd and booting off it
[06:41] <dr_willis> lakitu you cam mount isos - but 'booting' one is a bit more of a task
[06:41] <BobCFC> kr00l, it is seeing the space in words Program Files as a seperation put the whole file in "speechmarks" like this cd "/home/robert/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/CCP/EVE"
[06:42] <outbackwifi> Ujjwol: oggenc
[06:42] <Daft_Punk> where can i get ubuntu stickers besides the ones that come with my CD... i want other types of stickers linux or ubuntu related to put on my laptop
[06:42] <amazin> Ujjwol, lame encoder?
[06:42] <kr00l> None of this is helping, i can see the files in my file browser and that's where i got the Location address that i'm typing into the Terminal
[06:42] <lakitu> dr_willis: ok =) just down to my last few discs
[06:42] <balz> InvutiveNipple:  I see. yeah i did change to opendns a few days ago
[06:42] <balz> and that's what did it?
[06:42] <chaddy> Daft_Punk: ubuntu shop
[06:42] <BobCFC> kr00l, you are not listening
[06:42] <chaddy> Daft_Punk: your loco team might have some, too
[06:42] <Daft_Punk> chaddy, i checked there, its only 1 set of stickers that i have
[06:42] <outbackwifi> kr00l: open up a terminal and cd to that
[06:42] <kr00l> BobCFC: ok i did the speech marks and now what?
[06:42] <dr_willis> lakitu that unetbootin tool can make a bootable thumbdrve  you can install from
[06:43] <balz> IntuitiveNipple:  Ii suppose that's why my ssh client doesn't recognize the hostname either and I keep getting timeout errors?
[06:43] <kr00l> I got to the directory
[06:43] <lakitu> dr_willis: ok
[06:43] <BobCFC> kr00l, now you can just do chmod 755 myfile
[06:43] <kr00l> Now can i exit or do i have to do something else? how do i give read/write permission to this now that i'm finally in it?
[06:43] <BobCFC> kr00l, in future use speechmarks with chmod and you wont need to cd in to the directory
[06:43] <outbackwifi> kr00l: are you in terminal or nautilus
[06:43] <IntuitiveNipple> balz Yes, I would agree on that. For example, in the /etc/hosts on my laptop I have this entry to ensure one PC at the other end of a VPN link is known by a series of names: "10.254.252.1 vpn.lan.tjworld.net pella.lan.tjworld.net pella"
[06:44] <kr00l> Terminal Ubuntu 8.04 Gnome
[06:44] <outbackwifi> kr00l: sudo chmod 755 *
[06:44] <losher> balz: IntuitiveNipple is correct
[06:44] <balz> IntuitiveNipple:  okay.  That makes perfect sense.  And you said this is a client-side issue?
[06:45] <rdy> Hello, Ive got a WG111v3 Wireless USB Stick and I'm trying to install it with ubuntu x86 8.04. If i check what usb devices are connected it will find it as wireless network device but in network connections it's not there. So I used ndiswrapper as many guides on the internet tell me to and it will say that the driver is installed and the device is present but still cannot get ubuntu to use it. Can someone please help me.
[06:45] <balz> I ask becasue my client is a vista machine, so the process will no doubt be different than on an ubuntu client
[06:45] <IntuitiveNipple> balz: Yes, add an entry like my example to the /etc/hosts file on each local PC you want able to use the names
[06:45] <kr00l> Ok guys i used the speech marks and I'm in the directory and it says :~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/CCP/EVE$
[06:45] <balz> IntuitiveNipple, losher:  okay. thanks so much for the help.  Sorry if i was making the question complicated =)
[06:45] <kr00l> what do i type in on that line?
[06:46] <IntuitiveNipple> balz: actually, in windows it is almost the same - the file is, if my memory serves, \Windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
[06:46] <chaddy> kr00l: step 13
[06:46] <Anti-Christ> kr00l, use a virtual machine, so many tedious issues with wine
[06:46] <balz> IntuitiveNipple:  ooh right. i've heard of the host file a few times... never really understood what it was... i guess that makes more sense now
[06:46] <BobCFC> kr00l, what is the name of the file that you want?  type chmod 755 nameoffilethatiwant
[06:46] <chaddy> kr00l: look at it and change Program Files to Program\ Files
[06:46] <IntuitiveNipple> balz: I might be a bit off with that path, but not far - I'm sure it's in system32\drivers\ sub-dir somewhere
[06:47] <rdy> Anyone know how to help lol?
[06:47] <chaddy> just type it in, with your home dir in place of root and that extra slash to escape the space
[06:47] <BobCFC> chaddy, he is in the directory now managed to use CD with speechmarks
[06:47] <Oprtz> hello guys, i am not able to watch youtube on full screen in ubuntu 8.04, any suggestion
[06:47] <chaddy> BobCFC: I'm trying to get him to pay attention to what he's being told, BobCFC
[06:47] <balz> IntuitiveNipple:  okay. i'll be sure to check that out
[06:47] <chaddy> I know it's perverse of me ;)
[06:47] <outbackwifi> !ask|rdy
[06:48] <rdy> i did
[06:48] <rdy> ill paste it again, ﻿Ive got a WG111v3 Wireless USB Stick and I'm trying to install it with ubuntu x86 8.04. If i check what usb devices are connected it will find it as wireless network device but in network connections it's not there. So I used ndiswrapper as many guides on the internet tell me to and it will say that the driver is installed and the device is present but still cannot get ubuntu to use it. Can someone please help m
[06:48]  * IntuitiveNipple looks at chaddy with raised eyebrows... you think anyone really listens to what we say!?
[06:48] <chaddy> I'm sick in the head, it's an established fact ;)
[06:48] <outbackwifi> !repeat| rdy
[06:48] <BobCFC> chaddy, i think escape characters are confusing there is obviously a language issue here, speechmarks are easier?
[06:48] <dr_willis> Oprtz,  'write a nasty letter to  the flash company' comes to mind.. but other then that.. a lot depends on the web site/flash file
[06:48] <outbackwifi> !wifi
[06:49] <dr_willis> Oprtz,  some people have luck with the beta of flash 10.. others dont
[06:49] <Oprtz> dr_willis:  ok
[06:49] <chaddy> BobCFC: it's a bit of a crappy howto, to be fair
[06:49] <IntuitiveNipple> chaddy: You think there are *people* here? It's all ubottu's bot family and relations :D
[06:49] <Cow_Dstro_fs> cew
[06:49] <f|uke> Getting wifi working can be a serious pain in the ass
[06:49] <chaddy> !language chaddy
[06:49] <Cow_Dstro_fs> hi?
[06:49] <losher> IntuitiveNipple: No one really listens to anyone else, and if you try it for a while, you will see why (Mignon McLaughlin)
[06:49] <chaddy> hi Cow_Dstro_fs
[06:49] <Oprtz> dr_willis:  i can live with that , no problem :) thanks for the response
[06:49] <TGman> I NEED SOME MUCH HELP PLEASE I ACCIDENTALLY MOUNTED AN ISO ON MY DESKTOP I MEAN MY DESKTOP AND I DELETED ALL MY FILES I WANNA RECOVER THEM
[06:50] <whatvn> I can connect to my ssh server, how can I copy one file from ssh server to my computer?
[06:50] <cew_sporty> hi?
[06:50] <TGman> SO*
[06:50] <f|uke> Uh?
[06:50] <outbackwifi> TGman: did you delete the files on the iso?
[06:50] <dr_willis> TGman,  unmount the iso  and any files under its mountpoint will reappear
[06:50] <TGman> NO
[06:50] <IntuitiveNipple> losher: indeed... means you get to miss all the woffle :)
[06:50] <TGman> I UNMOUNTED THE ISO
[06:50] <chaddy> TGman: sudo umount /home/username/Desktop
[06:50] <TGman> BUT THE FILES STILL ON THE DESKTOP
[06:50] <cew_sporty> hi
[06:50] <kr00l> Well I can get the game to exe now but i can't get past the screen where i have to scroll down and accept the license agreement
[06:50] <dr_willis> TGman,   Turn off the caps lock..or we will turn ont eh IGNORE
[06:50] <outbackwifi> TGman: do you have a capslock key?
[06:50] <TGman> yeah
[06:50] <TGman> sorry
[06:50] <outbackwifi> TGman: tap it once  quickly
[06:51] <whatvn> I can connect to my ssh server, how can I copy one file from ssh server to my computer?
[06:51] <dr_willis> TGman,  look with the terminal onytour  /home/username/Desktop directory - see whats there.
[06:51] <outbackwifi> whatvn: scp
[06:51] <chaddy> scp whatvn
[06:51] <wartalker> how to know the driver for wifi
[06:51] <whatvn> scp /path/to/file filename?
[06:51] <outbackwifi> !wifi|wartalker
[06:51] <TGman> my old folders still there
[06:51] <f|uke> scp, but whatvn, its easier to use sshftp by going to Places > Connect to server
[06:52] <Ujjwol> is there any ogg converter for ubuntu
[06:52] <chaddy> syntax would be like scp /this/file/on/this/computer user@hostname:/that/file/on/that/computer
[06:52] <Ujjwol> is there any ogg converter for ubuntu
[06:52] <outbackwifi> whatvn: scp user@server:/path/to/file path/on/local/machine
[06:52] <BobCFC> kr00l, look on the winehq.org website and see if there is a page for your game, it might say use a special version of wine of something?
[06:52] <outbackwifi> Ujjwol: oggenc
[06:52] <IntuitiveNipple> whatvn: Whenever you don't know how to use a command, the first thing you should do is check for and read a manual-page (man-page). Try, at a terminal, doing: man scp
[06:52] <Ujjwol> how to install
[06:52] <whatvn> yes thank you, I did it :D
[06:52] <f|uke> ^5 whatvn
[06:53] <chaddy> Ujjwol: aptitude install vorbis-tools, I think
[06:53] <BobCFC> kr00l, http://appdb.winehq.org/ is the page for apps, try searching for your game there
[06:53] <TGman> nah never mind they are not there
[06:53] <outbackwifi> Ujjwol: look here -> http://www.vorbis.com/setup_linux/
[06:53] <paul68> whatvn if you scp from outside your network you have to specify the port also then the syntax is scp P22 followed by the rest of the previous mentioned method
[06:53] <whatvn> yes, I know, but I'm here and I don't want to wait, so I think that ask you is the best way :D
[06:53] <whatvn> sorry ^!
[06:54] <chaddy> did not know that, paul68, ta
[06:54]  * outbackwifi feels like a google bot
[06:54] <f|uke> whatvn: where are you from?
[06:54] <paul68> chaddy your welcome
[06:55] <IntuitiveNipple> paul68: Doesn't scp assume port 22 as the default?
[06:55] <whatvn> i'm from Vn
[06:55] <f|uke> ahh. I thought so.  chao anh. co khoe khong?
[06:55] <dani> hi
[06:55] <outbackwifi> paul68: that is required only if your ssh server is on a non standard port
[06:55] <losher> IntuitiveNipple: yes, 22 is the default for ssh
[06:56] <Ujjwol> is there any video editor like windows movie maker in linux | ubuntu
[06:56] <badfish> !nfo
[06:56] <chaddy> pitivi, Ujjwol
[06:56] <whatvn> I can connect to my ssh server, I use scp to copy httpd.conf from ssh server to my desktop using command
[06:56] <IntuitiveNipple> losher: Yeah I know, but paul68 was suggesting port 22 had to be specified when using scp from outside the local network
[06:56] <whatvn> root@hostname14272 [~]# scp /usr/local/apache/conf/httpd.conf /home/binguyen/Desktop
[06:56] <whatvn> but I got error :|
[06:56] <chaddy> might be a bit alpha, yet, but I've seen it work
[06:56] <Ujjwol> chaddy, is pitivi a video editot
[06:56] <outbackwifi> whatvn: you did not specify the server
[06:56] <whatvn> cp: cannot create regular file `/home/binguyen/Desktop': No such file or directory
[06:56] <paul68> IntuitiveNipple: yes but for example my service provider doesn't allow connections under port 22 so when connecting from the outside I have to specify the port
[06:56] <Guest38856> anyone here?
[06:56] <Guest38856> yoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[06:57] <whatvn> detail?
[06:57] <chaddy> Ujjwol: you'd have been quicker typing pitivi into google
[06:57] <outbackwifi> !ask | Guest38856
[06:57] <IntuitiveNipple> paul68: right, so what your example should have been is more like: scp -P 1234 ....   ?
[06:57] <outbackwifi> whatvn: scp username@serveripaddress:/path/to/file /path/to/local/
[06:57] <IntuitiveNipple> paul68: You had me confused there, especially with the -P option missing the leading - symbol too
[06:57] <whatvn> @outbackwifi: I already connect to ssh server, so why I mus specify the server?
[06:57] <losher> Ujjwol: for very basic editing and rencoding I use avidemux
[06:58] <outbackwifi> whatvn: you dont need to connect using ssh to scp
[06:58] <losher> Ujjwol: rencoding -> re-encoding
[06:58] <outbackwifi> whatvn: you need to run this from local machine
[06:58] <whatvn> ah
[06:58] <IntuitiveNipple> Ujjwol: Kino, cinelerra, LiVe
[06:58] <Guest38856> hey hey I'm a new ubuntu user and I love it!! woooooo DOWN WINDOWS!
[06:58] <f|uke> anh ten la bi, a? :P
[06:58] <whatvn> ^
[06:58] <whatvn> I love you so much ^
[06:58] <BobCFC> whatvn, you don't use scp inside ssh use a different console and it creates its own secure connection
[06:58] <h08817> my wireless usb works when i boot up but anytime im in ubuntu and i pull it out of my usb port, it won't turn back on
[06:59] <whatvn> Fluke: no :|
[06:59] <chaddy> h08817: try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[06:59] <outbackwifi> h08817: theres a lesson in that : Dont pull it out and plug it in again
[06:59] <h08817> lol thanks
[06:59] <whatvn> are you from vn?
[06:59] <chaddy> but moreso what outbackwifi said ;)
[06:59] <whatvn> fluke
[06:59] <f|uke> vay ah? nhung "binguyen". haaa.
[06:59] <h08817> chaddy, thanks
[06:59] <chaddy> heh don't thank me til it works ;)
[06:59] <whatvn> ^
[07:00] <h08817> well its working
[07:00] <outbackwifi> !vn
[07:00] <chaddy> \o/
[07:00]  * AkariChan` \o/ chaddy
[07:00] <DigitalFiz> anyone here playing steam games?
[07:00] <f|uke> khong. toi la nguoi my. ,. nhung co nguoi yeu viet. O.o
[07:00] <Guest38856> Hey I get this error when trying to isntall XGL -->  dpkg: operation requires read/write access to dpkg status area.. DA HELL?
[07:00] <paul68> IntuitiveNipple: I use scp -Pxxxxx Filename user@server:/filelocation
[07:00] <BobCFC> welcome Guest38856 have you tried ubuntuforums.org aswell?
[07:00] <outbackwifi> Guest38856: sudo
[07:00] <whatvn> I cant use English as well as you can understand
[07:00] <whatvn> :D
[07:00] <whatvn> can
[07:00] <chaddy> DigitalFiz: I had TF2 up for a while, and Portal, but I had some funky video issues
[07:00] <whatvn> not cant :D
[07:00] <FloodBot3> whatvn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:00] <outbackwifi> whatvn: our vietnamese is even worse
[07:00] <IntuitiveNipple> Hai bạn đang có tất cả mọi người bối rối
[07:01] <DigitalFiz> chaddy, css keeps crashing for me at the motd
[07:01] <f|uke> wow!
[07:01] <IntuitiveNipple> paul68: Yes, that makes more sense :)
[07:01] <whatvn> f|uke: who are you?
[07:01] <chaddy> DigitalFiz: it's failing when it tries to go to the online advertising?
[07:01] <f|uke> I'm a 32 year old white guy from california. ;)
[07:01] <DigitalFiz> chaddy, i suppose
[07:01] <outbackwifi> whatvn: f|uke;  please take random chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:02] <chaddy> I'll have a look, DigitalFiz
[07:02] <f|uke> no fun.
[07:02] <whatvn> yes, sorry^^
[07:02] <whatvn> I continued with my lovely server :)
[07:02] <nydoc> Using version 8.04. I cannot find the device manager. Can someone tell me where it is located. There is no hardware choice in preferences.
[07:02] <daisha> Multi-part question: I have a laptop (dell xps m1330 w/ GeForce Go 8400 GS, native res 1280x800) and a monitor (samsung syncmaster 204b, native res 1600x1200), and I'm not really enjoying running them in Twinview, because maximized windows maximize over both displays...  plus I wind up having to pan with the smaller one.  So, 1) Are separate x sessions working in either 8.10 or 8.04 with any version of nvidia-settings?  2) Could I run 
[07:02] <chaddy> DigitalFiz: you've installed the gecko engine?
[07:03] <chaddy> wine iexplore http://winehq.org
[07:03] <chaddy> if not
[07:03] <DigitalFiz> yeah
[07:03] <niccholaspage> Hey
[07:03] <cads> hello
[07:03] <DigitalFiz> steam works fine
[07:03] <DigitalFiz> its only in css when i connect to a game server and the motd comes up
[07:03] <orangey> hey all!
[07:03] <chaddy> ahh, sorry you mean counter strike source, I thought you meant cascading style sheets
[07:03] <chaddy> silly me
[07:04] <outbackwifi> !hi orangey
[07:04] <DigitalFiz> lol
[07:04] <outbackwifi> !hi |orangey
[07:04] <IntuitiveNipple> daisha: Yes, separate sessions work fine, I use them with nvidia
[07:04] <cads> in ubuntu 8.04 I can't seem to find the package  kernel-headers... has that been changed?
[07:04] <whatvn> what? i dont flood :|
[07:04] <DigitalFiz> the steam store and the news thing works fine so i know thats fine not sure what it is
[07:04] <IntuitiveNipple> cads: linux-headers
[07:04] <chaddy> I don't know, DigitalFiz, but I'd start here: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1554
[07:04] <orangey> thanks outbackwifi : )
[07:04] <cads> IntuitiveNipple: thanks!
[07:04] <whatvn> @outbackwifi: what did you mean?
[07:04] <outbackwifi> whatvn: by what?
[07:05] <IntuitiveNipple> cads: If you want a specific version, you tack on the version to the package name
[07:05] <Guest38856>  da HELL? why do I get this error when the package i downloaded is for AMD yet terminal gives me " package architecture (amd64) does not match system (i386)" DA HELLLLLLLLLLLLL?
[07:05] <whatvn> whatvn: our vietnamese is even worse?
[07:05] <BobCFC> daisha, i have used nvidia twinview with different resolutions and maximise is seperate for each screen and no panning
[07:05] <outbackwifi> whatvn: i meant that our vietnamese is worse than your english so lets stick to english
[07:06]  * outbackwifi wonders about "lost in translation"
[07:06] <dr_willis> Guest38856,  pakage  type is based on Os variant/Bits you installed.. not the cpu.. if you installed the 32bit ubuntu. You use the 32bit packages.. not the amd ones that are 64bit
[07:06] <nydoc> Does anyone know a terminal command to start the device manager?
[07:06] <Guest38856> hey that's a good movie LIT
[07:06] <chaddy> Guest38856: looks like you don't have 64 bit ubuntu installed
[07:06] <outbackwifi> nydoc: what do you mean by device manager?
[07:06] <daisha> BobCFC, how did you pull that off?  I can get rid of panning, but it still leaves the dead desktop space there (and will automatically place new windows there, to my chagrin)  But really, even just better behavior when maximizing would be grand.
[07:06] <hellhound> can anyone think of why the top of windows whites out when my mouse is hovered over it.  I am running ubuntu 8.04 with compiz installed and have been running this version for about a week.  This only started happening the past two or three days.
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[07:06] <IntuitiveNipple> cads: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-headers-2.6.24&searchon=names&suite=hardy&section=all
[07:07] <whatvn> @outbackwifi: sorry ^
[07:07] <nydoc> Show if devices are  on.
[07:07] <outbackwifi> nydoc: havent  heard of that on ubuntu
[07:07] <outbackwifi> nydoc: sudo lshw can show you the hardware on your machine though
[07:07] <BobCFC> daisha, just using  sudo nvidia-settings  it was the edefault behaviour for twinview, try enabling and disabling it
[07:07] <IntuitiveNipple> hellhound: It's a known issue with the Human theme... I might be able to dig out the bug # if you want it
[07:08] <nydoc> It is mentioned in the documentation but I cannot find it.
[07:08] <chaddy> nydoc: I'd hazard a guess at /etc/init.d/udev restart or similar
[07:08] <hellhound> IntuitiveNipple, that would be great!
[07:08] <nydoc> let me try.
[07:08] <leishmaniac> anyone help me to install new kubuntu beta by terminal mode?
[07:08] <daisha> BobCFC, I'll give it a shot, here, and let you know how it goes.
[07:09] <BobCFC> daisha, make sure you use sudo so that u can click save to X config file button
[07:09] <outbackwifi> leishmaniac: for intreprid pl go to #ubuntu+1
[07:09] <outbackwifi> leishmaniac: for intrepid pl go to #ubuntu+1
[07:10] <IntuitiveNipple> hellhound: just searched back over my IRC logs... someone told me about it Sept 20th: "apparently it's non-gtk2 themes"
[07:10] <daisha> BobCFC, Yup.  At the moment, maximizing behavior was not fixed by cycling settings...  lemme try with restarting my x session.  brb.
[07:10] <newmember> what is the apt-get package that I would need for building a package from source?
[07:11] <outbackwifi> newmember: sudo apt-get install  build-essentials
[07:11] <IntuitiveNipple> hellhound: "apparently changing themes to non-Clearlooks themes fixes it"
[07:11]  * outbackwifi or is it build-essential
[07:11] <newmember> ya right ty outbackwifi
[07:11] <hellhound> IntuitiveNipple, thank you very much
[07:11] <ryth__> how do you get DCed nicks off the server? I'm going to end up with a nick like ryth______________ soon...
[07:11] <outbackwifi> ryth__: keep pinging them
[07:12] <Jacobbs> try nickserv ghost
[07:12] <cads> is there a more highly suggested way to run ubuntu in windows than using VMware?
[07:12] <Jacobbs> [02:12.12] -NickServ- Syntax: GHOST <target> [password]
[07:12] <outbackwifi> cads: yes, dual boot
[07:12] <Jacobbs> password is the password for your auth
[07:12] <whatvn> and, can I use scp to copy file from my computer to server? when finished editing?
[07:12] <smil3y> cads> try the wubi installer on the installer disc
[07:12] <outbackwifi> whatvn: yes, just reverse source and destination
[07:13] <cads> outbackwifi: I am having linux withdrawals using windows and thought I'd use a virtual machine to do some coding in a nix environment because I can't fucking stand this windows bullshit
[07:13] <f|uke> If you are just editing config files, you should do it directly
[07:13] <dr_willis> whatvn,  of course.. or you could use sshfs to edit the file on the remote server
[07:13] <cads> alas, I am not allowed to modify the harddrive, so running in virtualization is my only choice
[07:13] <f|uke> just ssh and vi or nano the file
[07:13] <dr_willis> whatvn,  or ya can ssh to the remote box. and use a text based editor.. or use 'ssh -X remote' and run a gui editor
[07:13] <outbackwifi> cads: I guess virtualbox is another option
[07:14] <outbackwifi> cads: there is one for windoze --> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[07:14] <smil3y> cads> install on a usb drive and boot from that
[07:14] <whatvn> yes, I know how to use GUI, but I want to user command
[07:14] <cads> would it run any more efficiently than vmware (not that I'm dissatisfied with vmware particularly - I have ubuntu running right now in a window in the background and it's happy as a clam)
[07:15] <whatvn> thank again!
[07:15] <LadyNatalia> hai everyone :3
[07:15] <IntuitiveNipple> cads: How about wubi?
[07:15]  * dr_willis runs from Wubi
[07:15] <IntuitiveNipple> cads: ask dr_willis
[07:15] <smil3y> IntuitiveNipple>  I guess he cant mod the drive
[07:16] <smil3y> IntuitiveNipple>  wubi mods the drive
[07:16] <IntuitiveNipple> smil3y: wubi is just creating files... he must be allowed to do that else Windows would fall over
[07:16] <outbackwifi> !hi LadyNatalia
[07:16] <cads> I may consider wubi if I vmware proves too slow
[07:16] <IntuitiveNipple> smil3y: creates files on NTFS doesn't it? installs like a regular Windows app?
[07:16] <outbackwifi> cads: are you trying to fix something or get a survey from us?
[07:16] <ryth_> how do you remove a program if it's not listed in the Add/Remove?
[07:17] <cads> hehe, a survey I guess
[07:17] <outbackwifi> ryth_: depends on what program it is
[07:17] <daisha> BobCFC, on attempting to commit changes to xorg.conf, nvidia-settings threw a seg fault and borked up the config file.
[07:17] <dr_willis> ryth_,  use the actual package manager,, that add.remove is a  'limited' front end
[07:17] <IntuitiveNipple> ryth_: use System > Administration > Synaptic
[07:17] <smil3y> IntuitiveNipple>  not 100% sure, when you boot though it gives you a grub menu, so its gotta make some changes I guess
[07:17] <LadyNatalia> I have a probably stupid question, but I've tried every resource available online that I can think of. Wondering if someone can help me with a webcam oriented question. x.o;
[07:17] <cads> I hadn't thought of using wubi
[07:17] <daisha> Which could be an 8.10 specific issue, or even an nvidia 173 driver issue
[07:17] <LadyNatalia> Usually I'm not this much of a n00b, used to use Gentoo and all but.
[07:17] <IntuitiveNipple> smil3y: Yes, it adds itself into the Windows boot.ini (on XP) or the Vista binary BCD
[07:17] <losher> cads: vmware is pretty fast. According to their blurb, it approaches native speeds. Not sure wubi or virtualbox would be any faster..
[07:18] <errold32> problem with grub displaying only when xp is hibernated
[07:18] <outbackwifi> daisha: if you are on intrepid, you should be asking at #ubuntu+1
[07:18] <outbackwifi> !intrepid | daisha
[07:18] <outbackwifi> !ask | LadyNatalia
[07:18] <daisha> kk, sorry.  I'll go bug them.
[07:18] <smil3y> IntuitiveNipple>  i guess i asumed wubi mods the drive as you cant run xp and ubuntu side by side with wubi, its one or the other
[07:19] <errold32> no not intrepid
[07:19] <outbackwifi> errold32: that was for a
[07:19] <IntuitiveNipple> smil3y: It has been rather neat in how it integrated.
[07:19] <outbackwifi> errold32: that was for daisha
[07:19] <errold32> ?
[07:20] <cads> if I'm not mistaken, wubi installs ubuntu to an image file on the windows harddrive, and creates an entry in the windows bootloader pointing to the image
[07:20] <errold32> I am using grub installed to the MBR
[07:20] <LadyNatalia> Well, my question is, how do I install this webcam? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B000NWMEJA/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8&n=172282&s=electronics
[07:20] <smil3y> cads>  yeah, the nice thing about its the ability to uninstall like a windows program
[07:20] <IntuitiveNipple> cads: correct. We spent a while last night helping someone mount the wubi image file from the NTFS partition on a *real* Ubuntu boot
[07:20] <Jacobbs> I can modify the boot order that GRUB uses, right?
[07:21] <outbackwifi> Jacobbs: yes
[07:21] <shashi> Hi All, I am using 8.04 AMD64. I have installed ia32-libs package. If i install any 32-bit based application, the DNS-Resolving is not happening for these 32-bit applications. Please help, how can i solve this issue ?
[07:21] <cads> IntuitiveNipple: that sounds like it could be hairy :D
[07:21] <outbackwifi> Jacobbs: modify it in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:21] <Penzer_> How can I set up my mic for skype? No idea which input to select, have both onboard and pcie sound cards and not sure which is which in the input list
[07:22] <IntuitiveNipple> errold32: That makes sense. When the PC hibernates it saves the hibernation image to a disk file. When the system reboots, GRUB is the first program to get control. From there, select the Windows option and Windows should resume from its hibernation filew
[07:22] <Jacobbs> Okay cool
[07:22] <errold32> any help with grub display problems?
[07:22] <errold32> sorry
[07:22] <IntuitiveNipple> cads: It was long-winded... the user was very confused and it took three of us about an hour to get to the point where the user could copy files out of the wubi image to the real Ubuntu install
[07:22] <chaddy> hi errold32, what problem are you having?
[07:23] <chaddy> I may have wandered out and jumped back in inappropriately
[07:23] <chaddy> don't mind me
[07:23] <errold32> IntuitiveNipple: Grub dosn't display unless xp is hibernated....that is the problem
[07:23] <IntuitiveNipple> chaddy:  <errold32> problem with grub displaying only when xp is hibernated
[07:23] <chaddy> interesting
[07:24] <IntuitiveNipple> errold32: what 'displays' if Windows hasn't hibernated?
[07:24] <losher> LadyNatalia: I've no idea. Is it a usb webcam? Have you plugged it in yet?
[07:24] <errold32> when xp is not hibernated, the toshiba bios screen just displays for a long time, then the system boots to the grub default, windows.
[07:24] <LadyNatalia> losher, it's plugged in and i've already tried recompiling gspca for it twice
[07:25] <LadyNatalia> losher, the newer version 1.20.00
[07:25] <LadyNatalia> also tried uvcvideo, and that failed
[07:25] <IntuitiveNipple> LadyNatalia: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5662227&postcount=5
[07:25] <errold32> back
[07:26] <whatvn> can I ask a question about mod_security in ubuntu, if not, please don't mind ^
[07:27] <losher> shashi: dunno. If I were you, I run an application under strace and see what calls it makes to resolve dns names
[07:27] <LadyNatalia> IntuitiveNipple, I've already upgraded gspca, though, and when I modprobe'd it it still didn't detect the camera
[07:27] <LadyNatalia> and yes, it is plugged in.
[07:27] <LadyNatalia> little light's on and everything.
[07:27] <chaddy> whatvn: don't ask to ask
[07:27] <IntuitiveNipple> LadyNatalia: can you show me the USB device ID that lsusb reports for that camera?
[07:27] <Docal> If I want to make sure an install disc is "good" before I install off of it, is doing the diskcheck built into the boot menu just as good as doing an MD5 check on the ISO itself?
[07:28] <cads> I am so happy to see that silly abstract heron image once more
[07:28] <errold32> grub issues.....
[07:28] <LadyNatalia> IntuitiveNipple, yes. Bus 003 Device 002: ID 093a:2621 Pixart Imaging, Inc.
[07:28] <cads> vmware is the fucking balls
[07:28] <whatvn> yes, here is my question: Can I change the way server response http headers to client using Mod_sec?
[07:28] <shashi> I am getting the error "NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE" , but all 64-bit apps works fine
[07:28] <IntuitiveNipple> LadyNatalia: here's a test for you. Unplug the camera. At a terminal, run "tail -f /var/log/kern.log" - now plug the camera in. You should see some messages generated as the kernel recognises (or not) the camera. pastebin them and we can take a look
[07:28] <chaddy> ahh, I misread that, thought it was a question about heron anatomy
[07:29] <chaddy> they keep them on the inside was the answer
[07:29] <whatvn> and how? do I have to re-compile apache?
[07:29] <cads> hah!
[07:29] <ech0dish> guys i have an issue i can't figure out
[07:30] <cads> always wondered
[07:30] <IntuitiveNipple> LadyNatalia: also, this command will show you which (if any) kernel module supposedly supports that device: egrep '093a.*2621' /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/modules.usbmap
[07:30] <ech0dish> this dell poweredge 2500 will boot off windows disks but refuses to boot off any of the ubuntu disks
[07:30] <chaddy> whatvn: that's probably one to ask in #apache
[07:30] <losher> shashi: tried a google search on NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE and ubuntu?
[07:30] <whatvn> thank you!
[07:30] <ech0dish> o.O
[07:30] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: Still having that problem!?!
[07:30] <lakitu> hey, i rebooted out of the recovery modes start up, & now i can't load it or the regular ubuntu. in the recovery it says "[  28.927266] Booting processor 1/1 eip 3000". what can i do?
[07:30] <lakitu> it just hangs on that message
[07:30] <ech0dish> there is obviously something wrong with isolinux boot
[07:31] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: let me dig out that bug report I mentioned earlier related to what you're experiencing... what version of Ubuntu are you trying to boot?
[07:31] <chaddy> ech0dish: could be a failing disc drive, ubuntu disc is pretty full, might not be reading the edges accurately
[07:31] <ech0dish> well it boots of xp home and xp pro disks
[07:31] <lakitu> wow, it went!
[07:31] <lakitu> awesome
[07:31] <lakitu> it just hung on that for ever
[07:31] <ech0dish> and it boots on smart boot manager
[07:31] <lakitu> for like 5 minutes
[07:31] <losher> ech0dish: are the windows disks commercially produced? How about the ubuntu disks?
[07:32] <ech0dish> i have burned oem disks
[07:32] <LadyNatalia> IntuitiveNipple, http://pastebin.com/m67331042 and your egrep command shows no output.
[07:32] <ech0dish> same exact blank disks
[07:32] <chaddy> yeah, ech0dish, they write from the inside out
[07:32] <ech0dish> the ubuntu disks work in other machines
[07:32] <IntuitiveNipple> LadyNatalia: interesting? are you on Hardy? Here's what I get from that command: "gspca_pac7311        0x0003      0x093a   0x2621"
[07:32] <mrpockets> so am i nuts
[07:32] <mrpockets>  or can you not change what ports to use with IMAP and POP on Evolution
[07:33] <macvr> hi all... i'd like to make my windows list display from the right rather than from the default left?
[07:33] <chaddy> ubuntu image is nearly capacity, writes clear to the edge, you might have more luck with the alternate install disc, I think that's smaller
[07:33] <LadyNatalia> IntuitiveNipple, I am using Hardy, yes.
[07:33] <ech0dish> i have tried the alternate installer server edition
[07:33] <ech0dish> and the regular desktop install
[07:33] <ech0dish> with no luck at all
[07:33] <IntuitiveNipple> LadyNatalia: I know why I have the driver... I've got one of my DKMS packages installed: "gspca-v4l"
[07:33] <chaddy> do you have access to a pen drive, ech0dish?
[07:34] <ech0dish> have tried using smart boot manager and get an error 00xAA
[07:34] <LadyNatalia> IntuitiveNipple, which isn't in the Hardy repo. Where is it, by chance?
[07:34] <ech0dish> no i have no flash drives :(
[07:34] <chaddy> you could put the installer on one and try booting from that
[07:34] <chaddy> ahh
[07:34] <ech0dish> i don't want to use windows on this server....
[07:34] <IntuitiveNipple> LadyNatalia: It's DKMS so I must have packaged it, but I don't see it in my PPA so maybe I was testing it and forgot about it. I'll look see
[07:35] <chaddy> if the discs are working on other machines the probability is that the drive is failing
[07:35] <ech0dish> perhpas a smaller form of linux?
[07:35] <LadyNatalia> IntuitiveNipple, thank you. :3
[07:35] <chaddy> yes, DSL would be worth trying
[07:35] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: It has a working floppy?
[07:35] <losher> ech0dish: I agree with chaddy. Marginal disk reader....?
[07:35] <chaddy> it definitely won't write to the edge of the disc
[07:35] <ech0dish> yes it has a working floppy and have smart boot manager
[07:35] <chaddy> ahh, working floppy
[07:35] <chaddy> there might be hope in that
[07:36] <ech0dish> smart boot manager fails to initiate the cd
[07:36] <ech0dish> error 00xAA
[07:36] <supertanker> Is threr any eway to put javascript support in Elinks for my sever without recompiling the browser?
[07:36] <supertanker> easy*
[07:36] <supertanker> there*
[07:36] <loois> in shell scripting, is there a way to get the path of a file which is dragged onto the file?
[07:37] <ech0dish> could i upgrade from inside DSL to Ubuntu?
[07:37] <ech0dish> i could make a DSL disk real quick
[07:37] <ech0dish> and give that a try
[07:37] <macvr>  hi all... i'd like to make my windows list display from the right rather than from the default left? is it possible?
[07:37] <chaddy> ech0dish: you won't get from DSL to Ubuntu easily, if at all
[07:37] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: Do some googling... A few days ago I found an article on the Ubuntu or canonical web-sites about Ubuntu server/alternate, and there being an option/way to bootstrap from a floppy and then mount the CD and continue from it
[07:38] <outbackwifi> macvr: i guess you could right click and move
[07:38] <ech0dish> thats what smart boot manager does
[07:38] <chaddy> ech0dish: netinstall might be worth investigating
[07:38] <chaddy> http://www.wrigley.me.uk/wp/2005/01/09/ubuntu-netinstall-without-cdrom/
[07:38] <chaddy> bit old, but it's a starting point
[07:39] <macvr> outbackwifi: i tried that but it moves the list out of the screen!
[07:39] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: daft idea, but can you move the SCSI CD-drive to another controller/port?
[07:39] <LadyNatalia> IntuitiveNipple, any luck with the location of the package you mentioned before?
[07:39] <ech0dish> it actually has a strange connector
[07:39] <macvr> outbackwifi: where are the config for windows list?
[07:39] <ech0dish> that connects both the floppy and cdrom directly to the mobo
[07:40] <ech0dish> have tried simply pulling out all hard drives but then it fails to get past post
[07:40] <IntuitiveNipple> LadyNatalia: OK, I found the gspca package I'm testing. I took it from the latest dvb-v4l sources. The driver is built, but the package isn't complete since I also have to package a supporting set of userspace libraries to handle image decompression outside the kernel, and I've not got around to doing that yet.
[07:40] <outbackwifi> macvr: dunno, just right click and remove and  then go to the other end of the panel and right click, add to panel and select menu
[07:41] <outbackwifi> macvr: main menu
[07:41] <ech0dish> and there is no usb boot option in the bios so i figure a flash drive wouldn't load either
[07:41] <ech0dish> not that i have one
[07:41] <aoeuid> is there still a bug with qemu on gutsy that doesn't let you use usb devices?
[07:41] <LadyNatalia> IntuitiveNipple, ah nice. Will it be in the Hardy repo when complete?
[07:41] <ech0dish> i have 15 computers surrounding me and not a single flash drive lol
[07:42] <apathadeus> lol ech0dish
[07:42] <ech0dish> i always end up having to sell them to clients
[07:42] <kylekruchok> Can I get some help with my audio?
[07:42] <IntuitiveNipple> LadyNatalia: The best I can do is refer to where I got the source, since I am obviously in the process of breaking out just the gspca driver from all the linux-tv source: http://www.linuxtv.org/
[07:42] <IntuitiveNipple> LadyNatalia: It'll be in my Ubuntu PPA
[07:42] <losher> ech0dish: isn't there a way to nfsboot ubuntu?
[07:43] <ech0dish> not sure
[07:43] <outbackwifi> kylekruchok: sure
[07:43] <kylekruchok> losher: Yes.
[07:43] <ech0dish> will google it now
[07:43] <LadyNatalia> IntuitiveNipple, any specific thing I should compile? o_o
[07:43] <kylekruchok> outbackwifi: So, I've got this HP, and the audio works perfectly fine, and for no reason, it'll die. ( just the sound).
[07:43] <MrEgg964> hi all. How can I specifiy language settings on a per user basis in Ubuntu?
[07:43] <chaddy> ech0dish: if you get your hands on one pendrivelinux.com has some good guides
[07:43] <macvr> outbackwifi: that didnt work either! any ideas where the config file for windows list might be located?
[07:43] <losher> echOdish: Tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto ?
[07:43] <outbackwifi> not sure, maybe gconf-editor
[07:44] <kylekruchok> I've checked the "sound preferences" thing, and when I select my sound card and test it, it says device is in use. However, I'm not using any other program...
[07:44] <C0nn0R> It may be pulseaudio, killall pulseaudio in terminal to see if that helps.
[07:44] <IntuitiveNipple> aoeuid: Yes, in the regular packages for qemu/kvm, *but* I've just finished the dev file-system patch for qemu and it is upstream. I also have packages in my Ubuntu PPA with USB support enabled.
[07:44] <meoblast001> i have a question... what is the name of the team that makes sounds for ubuntu?
[07:44] <kylekruchok> Thanks C0nn0R.
[07:44] <meoblast001> startup, shutdown, etc
[07:44] <IntuitiveNipple> LadyNatalia: Unless you're a code guru I'd leave it! It's one heck of a lot of code!
[07:45] <IntuitiveNipple> LadyNatalia: hence why I'm breaking out just the gspca driver and libraries
[07:45] <kylekruchok> No process killed.
[07:45] <LadyNatalia> IntuitiveNipple, alright, sounds good. :3 Though I don't know where your PPA is for when you do have the package ready.
[07:45] <losher> kylekruchok: I've had trouble with firefox locking my audio before, after playing flash
[07:45] <ech0dish> it has PXE
[07:45] <LadyNatalia> And by the way, thank you for all of your help.
[07:45] <ech0dish> it's f12
[07:45] <ech0dish> no idea how to use it though
[07:45] <outbackwifi> meoblast001: does it matter? you can just add your own sounds
[07:46] <kylekruchok> losher: I've noticeed that's when I lose it... (sometimes). After I kill firefox (when done with flash vids / YouTube/ whatever)
[07:46] <meoblast001> outbackwifi: because i want to make sounds that can be part of Ubuntu.. you can change sounds in Windows too but Microsoft still has a sound team
[07:46] <kylekruchok> My audio goes with Firefox.
[07:46] <IntuitiveNipple> LadyNatalia: PPA is at https://launchpad.net/~intuitivenipple/+archive
[07:46] <ChristofferB> Hello everybody
[07:47] <outbackwifi> meoblast001: you mean you want to submit sounds for inclusion?
[07:47] <ChristofferB> Which burning software would you advice me to use?
[07:47] <meoblast001> outbackwifi: yes
[07:47] <f|uke> Ok, so, I'm trying to set up an automatic VNC tunnel.    I created a file in /etc/networking/if-up.d/   called sshtunnel,  I put the "ssh -L" command in it,  chmod and chown'd it, and am getting an error
[07:47] <losher> kylekruchok: sorry, dunno about a fix. Restarting firefox has always worked for me...
[07:47] <IntuitiveNipple> meoblast001: the ubuntu-desktop team would be most appropriate I think, they deal with themes and so forth
[07:47] <LadyNatalia> IntuitiveNipple, what package will I be looking for when it is complete?
[07:47] <ech0dish> network install seems very complex
[07:47] <f|uke> run-parts: failed to exec /etc/network/if-up.d/sshtunnel: Exec format error
[07:47] <IntuitiveNipple> LadyNatalia: gspca-v4l-dkms
[07:47] <outbackwifi> ChristofferB: ubuntu comes with one by default,
[07:48] <meoblast001> ok i joined
[07:48] <losher> ChristofferB: k3b is pretty good...
[07:48] <LadyNatalia> IntuitiveNipple, thank you very very much. :3
[07:48] <ChristofferB> outbackwifi: yeah - but it don't give me much options
[07:48] <outbackwifi> ChristofferB: you could also try brasero
[07:48] <kylekruchok> losher: No, When I close fiirefox, I lose audio on my whole system.
[07:48] <outbackwifi> !brasero
[07:48] <outbackwifi> !info brasero
[07:48] <losher> ech0dish: builds character...
[07:48] <IntuitiveNipple> LadyNatalia: hopefully later this coming week... I have a task list of kernel stuff as long as my arm to try and resolve :)
[07:48] <ChristofferB> thanks guys, i will look at K3B and brasero
[07:49] <ech0dish> lol losher
[07:49] <Bineagle> Hello,I use Ubuntu from 5 days,& im student and i need to compile my c,c++,java in linux i now gcc file.c fileo.o but didnt work
[07:49] <LadyNatalia> IntuitiveNipple, hey, no hurry of course. You're awesome for even undertaking the project. ^_^
[07:49] <outbackwifi> Bineagle: did you do sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:50] <IntuitiveNipple> LadyNatalia: Typical though, I just about get the Hardy DKMS packages sorted out, and Intrepid is coming so I have to rebase them on the new kernel
[07:50]  * outbackwifi thinks haing a nick like ladynatalia helped accelerate the process
[07:50] <ech0dish> i think i would prefer to find a very small form of linux and attempt to install that and then install linux from there.
[07:50] <ech0dish> ubuntu*
[07:50] <ech0dish> lol
[07:50]  * IntuitiveNipple thinks outbackwifi is being masogynistic :p
[07:50] <losher> kylekruchok: does restarting help e.g. sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart, same with pulseaudio?
[07:51]  * outbackwifi is just pulling someones leg :O
[07:51] <LadyNatalia> it is indeed awesome being a girl ^.~
[07:51] <IntuitiveNipple> outbackwifi: careful where you grab, then! :D
[07:51] <IntuitiveNipple> LadyNatalia: indeed it is, I fully agree!
[07:51]  * outbackwifi wouldnt know, hasnt been one
[07:52] <IntuitiveNipple> outbackwifi: you should try it then :p
[07:52] <IntuitiveNipple> outbackwifi: It's rather like going from windows to Linux
[07:52] <LadyNatalia> outbackwifi, i hear they have operations for that now.
[07:52]  * outbackwifi is happy as he is in this lifetime o_O
[07:53] <losher> outbackwifi: I thought all girls on the internet were supposed to actually be 40 year old males?
[07:53] <tyso1> anyone im setting up compiz fusion and i get this error can some one help me figure out how to fix this?
[07:53] <ChristofferB> Omg, it burned DBAN on the disc fast!
[07:53] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: here's a crafty idea for you ... copy  Ubuntu onto a spare hard drive and attach it to the PowerEdge to boot from
[07:53] <tyso1>  There is an unsupported value at path /apps/compiz/plugins/scale/allscreens/options/initiate_edge. Settings from this path won't be read. Try to remove that value so that operation can continue properly.
[07:53] <LadyNatalia> losher, shhhhhh.
[07:53] <LadyNatalia> ^^
[07:53] <ChristofferB> took only about 1 minute
[07:53] <outbackwifi> ChristofferB: what did you use? k3B?
[07:53] <IntuitiveNipple> losher: You'd better not let Hobbsee hear you say that!
[07:53] <losher> LadyNatalia: :-)
[07:53] <ChristofferB> Brasero, since i already had that one installed
[07:54] <outbackwifi> ChristofferB: oh ok :)
[07:54] <ChristofferB> it was lightning fast! I have only tried burning something from a windows setup before, and it usually takes ages, but this was just amazing!
[07:54] <LadyNatalia> losher, i think this image is relevant: http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i27/superbleeder12/NoGirlsAllowed.jpg
[07:55] <losher> LadyNatalia: girlzz rool...
[07:55] <IntuitiveNipple> ech0dish: How about this? scroll to the part about booting off a floppy (Booting PXE)
[07:55]  * outbackwifi thinks thats a great retro pic
[07:56] <tyso1> anyone know how to fix this?  There is an unsupported value at path /apps/compiz/plugins/scale/allscreens/options/initiate_edge. Settings from this path won't be read. Try to remove that value so that operation can continue properly.
[07:56] <outbackwifi> tyso1: whats the context of that error? are you trying to launch a rocket?
[07:57] <nydoc> have an travelmate 800. Can someone tell me how to change the wireless 802.11a to 802.11b?
[07:57] <tyso1> outback wifi:trying to install compiz fusion
[07:57] <ech0dish> any hopes on the debian businesscard install?
[07:58] <tyso1> outback wifi: but when i run it in the terminal thats the error i get
[07:58] <outbackwifi> tyso1: ah ok, go remove initiate_edge file
[07:58] <ech0dish> only 33mb
[07:58] <tyso1> outback wifi: thanks
[07:58] <ech0dish> does ubuntu have a similar one?
[07:59] <macvr> wher can i find the config file for the windows list app?
[07:59] <losher> ech0dish: I'd be interested to know if DSL installs....
[07:59] <outbackwifi> nydoc: most dual-band cards can work in both 1 & b simultaneously
[07:59] <macvr> hi all...wher can i find the config file for the windows list app?
[07:59] <outbackwifi> !repeat|  macvr
[07:59] <ech0dish> well i am going to try that and debians businesscard thing
[07:59] <Bineagle> why i cant compile i install the package & i have this message (gcc: ranim.c: No such file or directory
[07:59] <Bineagle> )
[07:59] <nydoc> driver says a
[08:00] <macvr> outbackwifi: i didnt repeat but wanted to address it to all ... so that all know
[08:00] <ech0dish> 33mb installer that downloads the rest from the internet as it goes
[08:01] <nydoc> let me clarify. lshw command driver listed as 802.11a
[08:01] <ech0dish> so ubuntu doesn't have a similar installer?
[08:01] <tyso1> outbackwifi: its tellin me that remove command not found
[08:02] <outbackwifi> tyso1: what command did you use to remove?
[08:02] <tyso1> remove
[08:02] <outbackwifi> tyso1: i would generally use sudo rm -f filename
[08:02] <tyso1> sudo rm then the file name?
[08:02] <outbackwifi> yes
[08:02] <tyso1> k thanks
[08:03] <outbackwifi> nydoc: sudo iwlist iface scanning should show you all 11a & b networks
[08:03] <outbackwifi> where iface is interface name like ath0 or ra0 or wlan0
[08:03] <losher> ech0dish: In theory, if you can get any system running with networking, you could copy enough to get a bootable system. Boot windows and then install wubi?
[08:03] <Indoctrine> How often should I apt-get upgrade on my server? Once a week?
[08:03] <nydoc> Is that the command?
[08:05] <outbackwifi> Indoctrine: i wouldnt do it at all on a production server
[08:05] <outbackwifi> nydoc: yes
[08:05] <Indoctrine> outbackwifi: Production server?
[08:05] <losher> Indoctrine: Unless there's a particular bug you need a fix for, or a security hole, it's not required...
[08:05] <Indoctrine> It's a personal fileserver.
[08:05] <outbackwifi> Indoctrine: server that is used in business-critical or mission-critical operations
[08:06] <Docal> will I experience a performance hit at all if I install Ubuntu with Wubi compared to a 'real' install?
[08:06] <outbackwifi> Indoctrine: oh ok
[08:06] <outbackwifi> Docal: you could try
[08:06] <Bineagle> why this message when i compile my c source"gcc: ranim.c: No such file or directory
[08:06] <Bineagle> "
[08:06] <CorbinFox> Bineagle: why the colons?
[08:06] <CorbinFox> i never have used colons when i compile my C programming
[08:06] <losher> Indoctrine: the last time I updated my personal servers was for the ssh key generation bug...
[08:07] <losher> Bineagle: so exactly where is ranim.c ?
[08:07] <Indoctrine> losher, I'm using samba so I don't have to worry about ssh, really.
[08:07] <balz> is there a way to optimize a mysql database via CLI?
[08:08] <balz> a command or something?
[08:08] <Bineagle> is in desktop
[08:08] <losher> Indoctrine: then you don't *need* to upgrade...
[08:09] <CorbinFox> bineagle: try it without the colons
[08:09] <outbackwifi> CorbinFox: thats prolly the error message he's posted
[08:09] <CorbinFox> ah
[08:10] <losher> CorbinFox: the colons are just from the gcc error message. Bineagle has a files/path problem...
[08:10]  * CorbinFox hasnt seen that error like that,
[08:10] <nydoc> When I type sudo iwlist iface scanning I get the message that iface does not support scanning.
[08:10] <dfgas> how do i format to ext3 and write 0's to the drive?
[08:10]  * outbackwifi sees it all the time if you try gcc on a non existent file
[08:10] <CorbinFox> bineagle: you are in the proper directory, right?
[08:11] <outbackwifi> dfgas: mkfs and dd are your friends
[08:11] <outbackwifi> nydoc: is your wireless interface called iface?
[08:11] <outbackwifi> nydoc; This is what i said --> where iface is interface name like ath0 or ra0 or wlan0
[08:12] <Bineagle> CorbinFox: note that i'm new in linux,my source file is in desktop (ranim.c)
[08:12] <outbackwifi> Bineagle: what do you get on pwd
[08:13] <CorbinFox> bineagle: then change the directory first, you are trying to compile the file from the wrong place.  do 'cd /home/useraccount/Desktop' then try compiling
[08:13] <Bineagle> outbackwifi:whats pwd?
[08:14] <outbackwifi> Bineagle: pwd is a command that tells you your present working directory
[08:14] <oric> 有没有中国的
[08:14] <outbackwifi> !jp | oric
[08:14] <oric> any chinese can help me plz
[08:15] <outbackwifi> !cn| oric
[08:15] <am4zin> for commands check out this wallpaper: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Linux-Unix+command+guide?content=88383
[08:15] <oric> thank you
[08:15] <am4zin> :-)
[08:15] <Bineagle> outbackwifi: my pwd is home/ranim
[08:15] <CorbinFox> bineagle: do "cd /home/ranim/Desktop" then compile
[08:15] <outbackwifi> Bineagle: so logic follows that you should go to the directory that contains your source file; so do what CorbinFox says
[08:16] <rpv__> hello
[08:17] <outbackwifi> !hi | rpv__
[08:17] <LadyNatalia> i'm just lurking nao
[08:17] <LadyNatalia> :3
[08:17] <Bineagle> CorbinFox: bash: cd: /home/ranim/Desktop: No such file or directory
[08:17] <Bineagle>  ?
[08:17] <CorbinFox> um..hmm
[08:17] <nydoc> where can I find the interface name?
[08:17] <CorbinFox> Go Places > Desktop
[08:18] <outbackwifi> nydoc: sudo iwconfig
[08:18] <CorbinFox> then copy and paste the address after "cd"
[08:18] <am4zin> check the wallpaper! :-D
[08:18] <outbackwifi> Bineagle: are you on ubuntu?
[08:18] <am4zin> install it it's really usefull für newbies...
[08:19] <am4zin> *for
[08:19] <nydoc> It is ath0. What is the command?
[08:19] <outbackwifi> am4zin: thats a really  amazing wallpaper and a great idea
[08:19] <Bineagle> outbackwifi: i'm in ubuntu 8.10
[08:19] <IntuitiveNipple> Bineagle: do: cd ~/Desktop
[08:19] <outbackwifi> Bineagle: go to ubuntu+1
[08:20] <outbackwifi> !intrepid|Bineagle
[08:20] <am4zin> ;-)
[08:20] <tyso1> outback wifi: i used sudo rm and sudo apt-get remove and all i get is either that its not a valid ommand or that the file cant be found any other suggestions?
[08:20]  * outbackwifi wonders why newbies would even install beta software
[08:21] <LadyNatalia> interpid is going to be OMG SO AWESOME :D
[08:21] <am4zin> tyso1: do you know the exact name of the package..?
[08:21] <frybye> Lady
[08:21] <losher> outbackwifi: by mistake I'd guess. I mean, they're newbies...
[08:21] <frybye> LadyNatalia: sorry.. in what respects do you  mean??
[08:21] <LadyNatalia> frybye, i'm just assuming that it's going to be "OMG SO AWESOME :D"
[08:21] <tyso1> outback wifi: it gives me the file name so i have that
[08:22] <outbackwifi> losher: umm cant say i agree, you cant download from the mainsite
[08:22] <ompaul> !interpid | LadyNatalia ;-)
[08:22] <tyso1> can i remove it from synaptic?
[08:22] <am4zin> yes
[08:22] <losher> outbackwifi: I didn't know that...! Beats me then...
[08:22] <outbackwifi> exactly
[08:22] <am4zin> it's the same..
[08:23] <frybye> LadyNatalia: I am running the intrepid beta - fully updated and tweeked a bit and while it seems fine .. I am not sure that there is that much that can be in a n y new OS to create this famour "wow" factor...
[08:23] <mn> will #ubuntu support .04 and .1 after it comes out?
[08:23] <losher> outbackwifi: the irony is that I doubt his compilation problem is Intrepid-related...
[08:23] <LadyNatalia> frybye, :[
[08:23] <outbackwifi> losher: yes but the fact of the matter is that Desktop isnt where it is in Hardy,
[08:24] <IntuitiveNipple> tyso1: To remove "/apps/compiz/plugins/scale/allscreens/options/initiate_edge" do: gconf-tool --unset /apps/compiz/plugins/scale/allscreens/options/initiate_edge
[08:24] <Atomic_UE> anyone know how i can share a mounted encfs ? The encfs mounted directory doesn't show up in samba if I share the encfs mount point, or share the parent directory
[08:24] <losher> outbackwifi: ah, understood...
[08:24] <IntuitiveNipple> tyso1: oops, typo...
[08:24] <IntuitiveNipple> tyso1: To remove "/apps/compiz/plugins/scale/allscreens/options/initiate_edge" do: gconftool --unset /apps/compiz/plugins/scale/allscreens/options/initiate_edge
[08:24] <IamSOG> How do I reset the Swap? I used another OS to format the SWAP, now ubuntu won't use my hda6
[08:25] <tyso1> intuitivenipple: thanks
[08:25] <mn> IamSOG: refomat it?
[08:25] <mn> reformat*
[08:25] <outbackwifi> IamSOG: use fdisk to mark it as linux swap; swapon to enable it
[08:25] <IamSOG> OH~ I see, tanks mn and outbackwifi
[08:25]  * outbackwifi doesnt know if swap can be formatted
[08:26] <m0u5e> in XP you could access windows root shares via samba by typing in smb:\\\<computername> ... is this possible for vista?
[08:26] <mn> np
[08:26] <m0u5e> a login pops up, but i can't login even when I input the right credentials for the local admin user
[08:26] <IntuitiveNipple> Atomic_UE: You could try: mkdir $MOUNTPOINT && mount --bind $ENCFS_DIR $MOUNTPOINT
[08:26] <outbackwifi> m0u5e: isnt that a question for microsoft?
[08:26] <nydoc> when I use sudo iwlist ath0 scanning I get "no scan results"
[08:26] <IntuitiveNipple> Atomic_UE: obviously replace the $VARIABLES with the true paths
[08:27] <outbackwifi> nydoc: is ther an accesspoint close by?
[08:27] <nydoc> 5 feet
[08:27] <IntuitiveNipple> outbackwifi: IamSOG: mkswap
[08:27] <losher> outbackwifi: I didn't think swap was formatted per se, but the partition has to be marked as swap for it to be considered..
[08:27] <Atomic_UE> IntuitiveNipple, so is this creating a mount point for the already mounted enfs?
[08:27] <outbackwifi> losher: thats what thought i said
[08:28] <sorsis> I asked to join group in ubuntu forum to handle beginners problems, but now my message sa a bit short since i pressed enter acidently.....
[08:28] <IntuitiveNipple> Atomic_UE: Yes, then share the new directory and see if that helps :)
[08:28] <outbackwifi> nydoc: are you on a laptop or a desktop
[08:28] <losher> outbackwifi: sorry, I was trying to agree with you...
[08:28] <anolis_> my sound is broken. while trying to fix it by reinstalling alsadrivers alsaconf runs, and then states that no valid pci sound devices were found and then continues by prompting if i want to scan legacy devices
[08:28] <nydoc> laptop
[08:28] <outbackwifi> losher: thank you :)
[08:28] <anolis_> lspci and lshw report both of my sound devices
[08:28] <outbackwifi> nydoc: is the  wifi switch on?
[08:29] <nydoc> yes
[08:29] <IntuitiveNipple> Atomic_UE: To unmount it, just do umount $MOUNTPOINT
[08:29] <wartalker> #kismet
[08:29] <nydoc> not sure
[08:29] <outbackwifi> nydoc: what card does your laptop have (lspci will tell you)
[08:29] <nydoc> atheros
[08:30] <outbackwifi> nydoc: atheros makes about 50 different wifi chips, so the make/model matters
[08:30] <m0u5e> outbackwifi: well i was wondering if you guys have had any experience trying it
[08:31] <outbackwifi> m0u5e: how would we? we're on ubuntu ;)
[08:31] <m0u5e> outbackwifi: i just got a new computer for the family, and it has vista media services installed on it, so i wanted to drop some stuff on it :)
[08:31] <m0u5e> outbackwifi: so am I :)
[08:31] <nydoc> AR5211
[08:31] <outbackwifi> m0u5e: so doesnt hurt to try before you ask
[08:32] <m0u5e> outbackwifi: i mentioned up there I had tried connecting to the share, but it wouldn't let me on
[08:32] <outbackwifi> m0u5e: so you get an  error?
[08:32] <IntuitiveNipple> m0u5e: Is the Ubuntu PC a member of the same Windows Workgroup as the Vista PC ?
[08:34] <m0u5e> IntuitiveNipple: yeah it is ... i also have password protected sharing enabled on the vista machine... though i'm not sure vista has root shares enabled by default like XP does
[08:34] <Atomic_UE> IntuitiveNipple, unfortunately that didn't work
[08:34] <m0u5e> outbackwifi: no, the connect dialog just reappears after i click connect
[08:35] <IntuitiveNipple> Atomic_UE: maybe it's a feature of the encfs ?
[08:35] <IntuitiveNipple> Atomic_UE: pretty handy, in some circumstances :p
[08:35] <Atomic_UE> yeh i can understand that
[08:36] <nydoc> Interestingly it says AR5212 802.11ab NIC but wireless=802.11a
[08:36] <IntuitiveNipple> Atomic_UE: "The way Encfs works is different from the “loopback” encrypted filesystem support built into the Linux kernel because it works on files at a time, not an entire block device."
[08:36] <outbackwifi> nydoc: apparently people have got your card working only with ndiswrapper
[08:36] <IntuitiveNipple> Atomic_UE: http://www.arg0.net/encfs
[08:36] <smudgedpuma> hi.  just installed with wubi.  can't get wireless networks to show up, which is currently my only means of accessing teh interweb.  the help docs say look for ndisgtk in the package thingy, but it's not in there, and without interweb, i can't update or search beyond.
[08:37] <seb90210> hi room
[08:37] <outbackwifi> nydoc: as indicated here --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=878148
[08:37] <outbackwifi> !hi seb90210
[08:37] <outbackwifi> !hi| seb90210
[08:37] <jim_p> smudgedpuma: what wireless card do you have?
[08:37] <_coredump_> tach auch
[08:38] <smudgedpuma> it came built into my dell inspiron 1721 laptop, not really sure what kind
[08:38] <outbackwifi> smudgedpuma: lspci should tell you
[08:38] <jim_p> smudgedpuma: open a terminal, type lspci , and find the string that identifies your card in there
[08:39] <smudgedpuma> should i find this ndisgtk, and some sorda .inf driver file, put it on a thumb drive, then boot into ubuntu again?  (i'm on vista now (dual boot))
[08:39] <m0u5e> ah IntuitiveNipple, outbackwifi thanks for your help, I think I found the answer: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx
[08:39] <m0u5e> root shares for vista are disabled by default over the network
[08:40] <IntuitiveNipple> Atomic_UE: As encfs is doing it on a file-by-file basis, I'd guess you could try sharing the directory that is parent to the one you want to share, and see how that goes. Decrypting the files on-the-fly may mean that you have to pay special attention to the permissions settings since the encfs may not let the samba process access the files
[08:40] <smudgedpuma> grr they said i wouldn't have to use CL
[08:40] <IamSOG> um.. fdisk or "swapon" both ask me the hardrive... but my hardirve is in where... like /media/hdax ? but it's not mount, but if I go to /dev/disk/by-id/  It doesn't work... um....
[08:40] <smudgedpuma> while i'm here, why does ubuntu make me type my password everytime i open something?
[08:40] <jim_p> smudgedpuma: do the lspci thing first and if that wont work, we will resort to the ndiswrapper thing
[08:40] <Atomic_UE> IntuitiveNipple, yeah tried that too. no love :\
[08:40] <brime> can anyone help me, I'm trying to replace " " with "\ " using sed and i'm having a hard time figuteing out the syntax
[08:41] <smudgedpuma> that's more annoying than vista
[08:41] <seb90210> smudge i dont like this either, it's not ht elinux way of doing things
[08:41] <jim_p> smudgedpuma: everything that starts with sudo... will require password
[08:41] <smudgedpuma> sudo?  i just click stuff, like the network icon, and it asks
[08:41] <Starnestommy> brime: try s/ /\\ /g
[08:41] <outbackwifi> IamSOG: you said you wanted to use /dev/hda6 as swap
[08:41] <IntuitiveNipple> Atomic_UE: check the /var/log/auth.log in case encfs reports refusals to access files, or check /var/log/daemon.log too
[08:42] <outbackwifi> IamSOG: and DONT mount it
[08:42] <smudgedpuma> gonna reboot and try lspci.  just type that and press enter?
[08:42] <IamSOG> but outbackwifi if I don't mount it, how can I find the hardisk ?
[08:42] <outbackwifi> smudgedpuma: yes
[08:42] <jim_p> smudgedpuma: yes
[08:42] <seb90210> in linuxmint you get the option of normalizing/correcting this behaviour and i'm wondering how to do this in ubuntu too
[08:42] <smudgedpuma> okie thanks i'll try it :)
[08:43] <brime> Starnestommy: thanks that worked.
[08:43] <m0u5e> has anyone here been successful in samba connecting to a vista windows share?
[08:43] <outbackwifi> IamSOG: i think youve misunderstood the purpose of mount; just do a mkswap /dev/hda6 if that is the partition to be used as swap
[08:43] <MFen> i accidentally deleted some unknown amount of my /usr directory
[08:44] <MFen> my system is still mostly functioning, though
[08:44] <michaelklinckibu> im trying to change my desktop background for a picture on the internet and its not alowing me to. help?
[08:44] <lakitu> hey, my ubuntu hangs on "starting up", when starting into regular mode, & when booting into recovery, it takes several minutes on "Booting processor 1/1 eip 3000".
[08:44] <outbackwifi> m0u5e: i would try using smbmount tho
[08:44] <MFen> is there a way to ask ubuntu to verify all of its packages and report those that have files missing?
[08:44] <jim_p> MFen: deleted as in "sudo rm /usr  ?
[08:44] <IamSOG> outbackwifi I trie it said "no such file or directory
[08:44] <MFen> jim_p: basically, yes
[08:44] <mattycoze> hey guys, bah the update with 8.10 hasn't gone very good; i've got some lag problem when i switch between windows (includes tabbing in firefox) can someone tell me if this is normal
[08:44] <jim_p> MFen: do you remember ANY filename?
[08:44] <outbackwifi> IamSOG: what does fdisk -l tell you?
[08:45] <seb90210> so how to correct this ..ahem dumb sudo behaviour to make su normal again
[08:45] <lakitu> i think i shutdown in the middle of a recovery mode startup, & that's what caused this
[08:45] <mattycoze> actually i've got a few other problems if someone wants to listen to them.
[08:45] <outbackwifi> mattycoze: intrepid is in beta, you cant expect anything from it before 30 oct
[08:45] <MFen> jim_p: "remember" is not the problem. it started recursively deleting the whole problem. the only thing i know for sure is vegastrike took damage, because that's where it was when i killed it
[08:45] <outbackwifi> !intrepid|mattycoze
[08:45] <shabda> I was doing a long session on console, due to some setting I can see only last n lines in my console, and I want to see all that I typed in this session, so I createa  script from it. Does ubuntu store this data somewhere from where I can pick it up?
[08:45] <IamSOG> outbackwifi it said "invalid optoin --i
[08:45] <jim_p> MFen: do you still have synaptic available??
[08:46] <MFen> yes
[08:46] <outbackwifi> IamSOG: that was a yell (l)
[08:46] <mattycoze> lol okay then sorry**
[08:46] <IamSOG> oh!
[08:46] <MFen> i'm having some problems with gnome though. none of my window decoration works
[08:46] <IamSOG> outbackwifi it didn't say anything
[08:46] <outbackwifi> IamSOG: sudo
[08:46] <ompaul> MFen, sudo apt-get --reinstall install
[08:46] <ompaul> MFen, sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop
[08:46] <outbackwifi> IamSOG: sudo fdisk -l
[08:46] <jim_p> MFen: open synaptic, select ALL the installed packages you have and right click on them and "Mark for reinstallation" . i cant think of any ither way
[08:47] <seb90210> MFen it has worked for me - installing/loading different themes
[08:47] <IamSOG> aahhh, I can see it now... it's under /dev/sda6 let me try again...
[08:48] <m0u5e> where do i go to manage my network shares in ubuntu?
[08:48] <IamSOG> thanks outbackwifi I think I got it, keep forgetting ububtu uses sda
[08:48] <ichbinesderelch> m0u5e: /etc/samba/smb.conf if using samba
[08:49] <MFen> when i reinstall ubuntu-desktop it only reinstalls that one dummy package. so i guess i'll need to try jim_p's suggestion
[08:49] <MFen> seb90210: how would i do that?
[08:49] <jim_p> m0u5e: samba?
[08:50] <ompaul> MFen,   note the --reinstall argument being passed to apt-get -->>  sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop
[08:50] <v4vijayakumar> I was asking for help regarding my slow n/w, it is fine now. I forgot we have a wonderful ISP (BSNL) here in India. :-P
[08:51] <MFen> ompaul: i know, it doesn't matter.  it's only going to reinstall that one, not everything
[08:51] <m0u5e> ichbinesderelch: i remember there used to be something under system>administration that you could see all your shares?
[08:51] <MFen> brb
[08:51] <m0u5e> ichbinesderelch: not how the shares are configured, i mean a list of all my shares
[08:52] <seb90210> MFen i suppose there are various ways, theme manager or gnome-look.org, somewhere in the appearance settings, so long as you load a different theme then revert or whatever...even the compiz-fusion icon has the option of reloading the standard metacity theme
[08:52] <ichbinesderelch> m0u5e: mmmhh, there are some programms, but never used one of those, "cat /etc/samba/smb.conf | grep path" will do the same :P
[08:53] <lakitu> any help on my non-starting-up ubuntu?
[08:53] <jim_p> lakitu: for what reason?
[08:53] <anolis> alsa-driver will not compile, sound system is ruined, don't know where to go from here
[08:53] <lakitu> jim_p: want to scroll up - or should i repeat it?
[08:53] <anolis> please help
[08:53] <jim_p> lakitu: please repeat :(
[08:53] <njk> hi all, i have internet in my desktop to which i am connected, but my http server is on my laptop, how can i make my http server available to the outside world?
[08:53] <lakitu> jim_p: np
[08:53] <mordof> hi. just wondering if anyone knows of a video (avi, mkv) re-encoder so i could make my videos smaller that is purely text-based (and hopefully relatively easy to use). any recommendations?
[08:54] <lakitu> hey, my ubuntu hangs on "starting up", when starting into regular mode, & when booting into recovery, it takes several minutes on "Booting processor 1/1 eip 3000". (i think i shutdown in the middle of a recovery mode startup, & that's what caused this)
[08:54] <anolis> mordof, ffmpeg
[08:54] <mordof> anolis: ty ^^
[08:54] <jim_p> mordof: ffmpeg command line only
[08:54] <lakitu> jim_p: thing is, it never used to do this
[08:54] <lakitu> i wonder what's different. the only thing is, now i have a usb flash drive plugged in
[08:55] <jim_p> lakitu: can you disable the "quiet" and "splash" options of the kernel line?
[08:55] <Oberon_Prime> unplug flash drive if that is the only thing different......
[08:55] <njk> how can i share internet connection on ubuntu, and if so, can it be shared with a windows desktop?
[08:56] <lakitu> jim_p: ok, should i google, or how do i do that?
[08:56] <Oberon_Prime> yes, njk, it can
[08:56] <lakitu> Oberon_Prime: is it possible it is because i cold booted during a recovery mode startup?
[08:56] <seb90210> would anyone know of a simple way of reverting to the sane way of using root as in no more constant sudo, just plain su
[08:56] <IntuitiveNipple> MFen: Here's how to reinstall all currently installed packages (assuming the dselect list is not corrupted/deleted and the apt and dpkg tools are still present):  sudo apt-get -s --reinstall install $(dpkg --get-selections | awk '{printf "%s ", $1}')
[08:56] <RandyboY> I have a rather new laptop. An Acer Aspire 6920. But there are things that isnt good yet.. The touchpad(which controls the sound ie) to the left isnt flawless. It works, but shows the wrong soundvolume (not the worst), and the screen-light buttons (Fn + arrow up/down) isnt working at all. And ofcourse the fingerprintreader also isnt working at all... Anyone knows how to fix all or some of these problems?
[08:56] <njk> cool. how?
[08:56] <Oberon_Prime> I dont really know lakitu, I am not a guru
[08:56] <lakitu> Oberon_Prime: oh =)
[08:56] <IntuitiveNipple> MFen: Note that the example command I gave you has the *simulation* option set so it won't do anything... remove "-s" to have it do it for real
[08:56] <Jordan_U> seb90210: sudo -s
[08:56] <smil3y> njk>  yeah take a look at firestarter, easiest way withpout getting involved in iptables and such
[08:57] <IntuitiveNipple> seb90210: sudo -i is the recommended way with a correctly configured shell environment
[08:57] <ichbinesderelch> RandyboY: for fingerprint reader take a look at "thinkfinger", for the fn+up/down keys, open xev and take a look at it if the kernel knows the keys, sound - no idea
[08:58] <Oberon_Prime> njk look for private chat window
[08:58] <amanu> my system sound when i play some music is audiable to outside even i plugin my head set i dont want to do that what can i do?
[08:58] <jim_p> lakitu: while in grub, press a button to stop the timer. press e to edit the 1st entry. press down again so you go to the 2nd line. press E again. delete tha words "splash" and "quiet" which are in the end of the line. press enter to save it and go back. press B to boot
[08:59] <lakitu> jim_p: ah ok. i understand now, thanks
[08:59] <lakitu> brb, doing
[08:59] <jim_p> ok
[08:59] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu: When the PC boots, go into the GRUB menu. highlight the kernel to boot, press E to edit it. highlight the kernel ... line and press E to edit that. scroll to the end, and delete the "quiet splash" words, then press Enter to boot. You'll see all the kernel messages
[09:00] <IntuitiveNipple> jim_p: :P
[09:00] <jim_p> IntuitiveNipple: :P
[09:00] <IntuitiveNipple> jim_p: Well, surely two of us can't be wrong :D
[09:00] <mrpockets> dude
[09:00] <mrpockets> so
[09:00] <mrpockets> in compiz
[09:00] <seb90210> thanx both for the sudo - with switch now because i've been used to the ubuntu way apparently the real root forgot his real pass :)
[09:00] <mrpockets> how do you make the desktop cube smaller?
[09:01] <jim_p> IntuitiveNipple: we must make a team
[09:01] <lakitu> jim_p & IntuitiveNipple team: =P it hangs for ever on "Booting processor 1/1 eip 3000"
[09:01] <lakitu> maybe i should try to remove that usb drive, but i can't believe that would do it (to a processor thing)
[09:02] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu: And this is only when there's a USB device plugged in?
[09:02] <jim_p> lakitu: let me think
[09:02]  * jim_p opens up google!
[09:02] <lakitu> IntuitiveNipple: well, i haven't tried it without
[09:02] <m0u5e> ichbinesderelch: apparently there should be a share tool under gnome-system-tools...
[09:02] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu: try
[09:02] <Shai-tan1> Hi guys. What channel do I use if I want to ask about intrepid server issues?
[09:02] <lakitu> jim_p: i tried googling, first =P & i got some stuff from the ubuntu dev mailing lists. nothing very helpful
[09:02] <lakitu> Shai-tan1: #ubuntu+1 , i believe
[09:03] <jim_p> lakitu: what cpu and mobo are you on?
[09:03] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu: I *suspect* you're been hit by a timer issue, that message appears right before the kernel tries to calibrate the system high-resolution timers,
[09:03] <Shai-tan1> lakitu: thankyou
[09:03] <foormea> hi. i'm under kubuntu, i'm trying to prevent a package from being updated. i've tried sudo aptitude hold <package> and it works fine, BUT it only affects aptitude and not apt-get/adept.. how could i hold a package for the whole apt system?
[09:03] <jim_p> !hda
[09:03] <jim_p> !audio
[09:04] <m0u5e> ichbinesderelch: haha alt+f2 shares-admin ... weird why cant i see it in my menu
[09:04] <IntuitiveNipple> foormea: You're on the right lines... use apt's files to create what we call a 'pin'
[09:04] <lakitu> jim_p: i'd have to look up the exact make & model. ... here, it's an intel dual quad core, Q6700 (i believe!) & an Asus P5N-E SLI
[09:05] <lakitu> still hangin' btw =)
[09:05] <foormea> IntuitiveNipple: okay let me google that up :) thank you
[09:05] <IntuitiveNipple> foormea: see: man apt_preferences
[09:05] <foormea> oh
[09:05] <foormea> thank you!!
[09:05] <ichbinesderelch> m0u5e: i have no idea ;)
[09:06] <jim_p> lakitu: let me question asus about the chipset it has on
[09:06] <IntuitiveNipple> foormea: see also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[09:07] <lakitu> jim_p: specifically Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6700 for the processor
[09:07] <foormea> thank you so much IntuitiveNipple
[09:07] <lakitu> that's how the boot-up reads it
[09:08] <lakitu> ah, here's something: it says "ACPI: Looking for DSDT in initramfs... error, file /DSDT.aml not found . could that be the problem?
[09:08] <gonzo_> 'ello everyone
[09:08] <seb90210> in no wayit has been my experience that knoppix should at least lead you to determine what sound h/w you have but the chipset there sould be intel ich10
[09:08] <lakitu> oops, +" after "not found"
[09:08] <gonzo_> so, I'm on the 'ole Ubuntu channel tonight because I can't get my new install to read DVD's.
[09:08] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu: That's not an error, that is just saying it didn't replace the BIOS DSDT with a custom version
[09:08] <lakitu> ok
[09:08] <gonzo_> Got the latest version of Hardy.
[09:09] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu: what kernel version does this system usually boot with?
[09:09] <gonzo_> Any takers?
[09:09] <ompaul> !dvd | gonzo_
[09:09] <mordof> so if i just do sudo apt-get install ffmpeg and install everything that goes with it, i should have all the codecs and everything necessary to convert anything?
[09:09] <lakitu> IntuitiveNipple: i believe(!) it's hardy. 8.04. but my disc i got says 8.x =/
[09:09] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu: so kernel 2.6.24.x then?
[09:10] <lakitu> IntuitiveNipple: oh.. *shrug* sorry
[09:10] <jim_p> lakitu: is there any chance to tell me the mobo chipset?
[09:10] <lakitu> jim_p: possibly: how would i find out?
[09:10] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu: just confirm for me, this system has booted successfully with that kernel version before now?
[09:10] <lakitu> IntuitiveNipple: yes, many times
[09:11] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu: Are there older kernel versions still on the system available to boot from? or is that version the only one in the GRUB menu?
[09:11] <jim_p> lakitu: asus wont tell me, if you have the mobo manual...
[09:11] <lakitu> the last thing i did was use unetbootin to create a bootable usb drive, & then i tried booting from that USB drive, but it was messed up, so i tried booting into Ubuntu, but accidently did recovery.. recovery wasn't restarting so i cold booted
[09:11] <lakitu> IntuitiveNipple: only one
[09:12] <lakitu> jim_p: np, i do
[09:12] <lakitu> hold on
[09:12] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu: Do you have the bootable Ubuntu CD to hand? of so, boot from that please. We can then do some file-system checks for corrupted files.
[09:12] <sertinx-live> hello
[09:12] <sertinx-live> how do you load a module? I'mt rying to get lm-sensors up
[09:12] <lakitu> IntuitiveNipple: cool. yes i do, hold on
[09:13] <IntuitiveNipple> Sertse: sudo modprobe <modulename>
[09:13] <mordof> anyone?
[09:14] <lakitu> jim_p: ok. Chipset: North Bridge: NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI (C55), South Bridge: NVIDIA nForce 530i (MCP 51)
[09:14] <lakitu> IntuitiveNipple: should i just shut this down? it's still hung on "Booting processor 1/1 eip 3000" ...
[09:14] <jim_p> lakitu: thanks a lot. we just exluded the mobo chipset and the cpu to be incomatible with the kernel
[09:14] <gonzo_> ompaul, I have no idea how to do all those things. Consider me an X newb?
[09:15] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu: Yes
[09:15] <ichbinesderelch> mordof: he would give you a list of files he thinks you wanna download i guess
[09:15] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu: I think that the USB installer (or boot attempt) somehow altered something on the hard disk... could be corruption, or a config or system file change
[09:16] <mordof> ichbinesderelch: hmm? whp
[09:16] <mordof> who*
[09:16] <ichbinesderelch> mordof: take it as a yes
[09:16] <mordof> ichbinesderelch: kk, lol
[09:17] <lakitu> jim_p: well, it ran before. like i say, the last thing i did, was, that USB attempt to boot. it failed. it didn't get past the unetbootin (or whatever) thing
[09:17] <foormea> IntuitiveNipple thank you for your help, my package is correctly locked for the whole apt system now :D
[09:17] <lakitu> IntuitiveNipple: =// it's not booting
[09:17] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu: Is it possible the BIOS settings for the system got reset/changed by something? I've seen that cause this kind of issue before now
[09:17] <lakitu> IntuitiveNipple: i went to "try ubuntu without changing my computer" or whatever, & it just hangs on a blank screen with a single blinking cursor
[09:17] <ompaul> gonzo_, read the web page it tells you in lots of detail it is a how to
[09:18] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu: It may be worth doing a BIOS reset and reconfiguration of any custom settings to be sure
[09:18] <AJP> Hi! How come my Ubuntu has CRASHED 3 times within the past 2 days and my windows hasn't crashed once?
[09:18] <five> whats a good 64 emu for linux
[09:18] <lakitu> IntuitiveNipple: i set the boot device order differently, is all
[09:18] <jim_p> AJP: depends on what you did
[09:18] <lakitu> i don't THINK i accidently changed anything else
[09:18] <njk> Thanks all, Have a nice day/night/evening
[09:18] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu: That'll be the same issue... you can check by changing the CD boot options. At the CD menu, press F6 (I think it is) to edit boot options, go to the end of the kernel command line, delete "quiet splash" and press Enter
[09:19] <jim_p> !audio
[09:19] <AJP> jim_p: I was watching a movie
[09:19] <jim_p> AJP: so?
[09:19] <KalEl> ubuntu is rock solid, never crashed on me.
[09:19] <Ibrahim> hello, I installed intrepid on my laptop, I have used opensource graphic driver of ati radeon, compiz is working well and opengl and video flickering no more exist. But there are a lot of bugs on intrepid now. I installed hardy now, Is that possible to install that radeon driver which comes with intrepid to hardy heron? Thanks.
[09:19] <AJP> jim_p: never mind
[09:19] <lakitu> IntuitiveNipple: yep, same hang point
[09:20] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu: 'all' .... that could have a bad effect... *if* the system got as far as looking for the initrd image and it was not in the same partition as the kernel... but I doubt you've got that system that customised!
[09:20] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu: OK, so, I'm going to go for the cause being a BIOS setting, or something connected to the PC that wasn't connected when it was booting successfully
[09:21] <lakitu> IntuitiveNipple: ok. i will change the boot settings back, & remove that USB (as i should've done)
[09:21] <IntuitiveNipple> Ibrahim: Intrepid support is in #ubuntu+1
[09:21] <jim_p> AJP: there are loads of reasons for ubuntu to crash. you may be watching a movie and have set video output to something exotic for instance
[09:21] <fodoso> what is the major diff between ubuntu and debian?
[09:21] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu: Do a BIOS 'reset' to default first
[09:21] <jim_p> fodoso: available packages i would say
[09:21] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu: then reboot like that and try... then after that, reboot to set yout BIOS custom settings
[09:21] <AJP> jim_p: OK... but it even crashed while surfing in the internet with firefox
[09:22] <fodoso> jim_p: debian has more packages than ubuntu. then why use ubuntu?
[09:22] <IntuitiveNipple> fodoso: Debian supports a wider range of architectures, but its stable releases are a lot slower than Ubuntu's
[09:22] <fodoso> IntuitiveNipple: ah, its the releases.
[09:22] <IntuitiveNipple> fodoso: Also, many Ubuntu application packages are more recent than the Debian ones, although we try to sync them as much as is practical
[09:22] <m0niker> why not use it?
[09:22] <jim_p> fodoso: user fiendlyness perhaps? debian wants you to fully know what you are doing from 0
[09:22] <m0niker> yes
[09:23] <m0niker> maybe
[09:23] <IntuitiveNipple> fodoso: Also, Ubuntu is backed by Canonical, a commercial operation, whereas Debian is all volunteers
[09:23] <m0niker> this is true
[09:23] <ay^> I'm sorry to ask this question here, but I have found no where to ask, and this place could pehaps point me in the right direction. I just started using Dia for drawing flowcharts, but it's bugging me that no shortcuts seems to work, annoying to point and click every symbole. How do I activate this?/Where do I read about it?
[09:23] <IntuitiveNipple> fodoso: Debian aims more for the 'purist' solution of F/OSS where Ubuntu is often more pragmatic
[09:23] <jim_p> IntuitiveNipple: where is that database about the snd-intel-hda module and its 411684 options?
[09:24] <IntuitiveNipple> jim_p: hmmm... database? you mean wiki page?
[09:24] <m0niker> Money is a factor is as is user friendliness
[09:24] <jim_p> IntuitiveNipple: that one too
[09:24] <amanu>  ay^:just goole it :p
[09:24] <fodoso> commercial vs volunteers, faster release, i can understand but 'purist' vs pragmatic?
[09:24] <IntuitiveNipple> ay^: what short-cuts do you mean? keys instead of clicking icons?
[09:24] <m0niker> I run it with fluxbox and love it still . covers all bases on a machine like this .
[09:24] <fodoso> IntuitiveNipple: can you elaborate on that last one?
[09:24] <ompaul> ay^, howto dia returns this lucky answer: howto.wikia.com/wiki/Dia_program
[09:25] <ay^> amanu I did :( IntuitiveNipple yeah
[09:25] <ompaul> !offtopic | fodoso
[09:25] <ay^> ompaul: I'll get right on it
[09:25] <m0niker> customer service
[09:25] <IntuitiveNipple> fodoso: Debian has its "Free Software Guidelines" that mandate removing anything from packages that has a license that Debian don't like. In some cases, Ubuntu's attitude to those situations is more pragmatic - hence Ubuntu is strong on the 'restricted drivers' packages unlike Debian
[09:25] <ompaul> m0niker, ever so slightly offtopic ;-)
[09:25] <lakitu> hey, now it works! i just removed the bootable USB drive. should i make a note of that, on the ubuntu forum, or anything?
[09:26] <lakitu> IntuitiveNipple: i didn't reset the BIOS
[09:26] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu: You mean you didn't remove the USB drive earlier when we suggested that?!!?!
[09:26] <lakitu> IntuitiveNipple: you had me try other stuff. i was busy trying that (it was hung for most of the time.. & then i was getting the chipset info for jim_p)
[09:26] <lakitu> =)
[09:26] <lakitu> anyway
[09:26] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu: If you've changed the BIOS boot order, and left a formatted device in the USB port, the BIOS will see that as a valid drive and shuffle the boot device order and the failure would be expected!
[09:27] <m0niker> xmms,rtorrent,lynx,swiftfox,conky,xterm in background at startup....works.
[09:27]  * IntuitiveNipple goes and cries on jim_p's shoulder
[09:27] <m0niker> xpdf
[09:27] <lakitu> IntuitiveNipple: ah. unbeknownst to me =)
[09:27] <fodoso> IntuitiveNipple: what about source or binary code? that is a fundamental diff too, right?
[09:27] <lakitu> IntuitiveNipple: thanks you two, sorry if i made you work harder than you should've
[09:27] <ay^> ompaul: uhm, I feel retarded here, but there is basically nothing on that site?
[09:27] <lakitu> jim_p ^^^^^
[09:27] <m0niker> customized with "Ubuntu"
[09:28] <IntuitiveNipple> fodoso: no, exactly the same... you want the source of a debian/Ubuntu package, you do "apt-get source  <packagename>"
[09:28] <mEck0> hi! I've downloaded the Inconsolata font (both otf and pfa) but can't figure out where to put it :( Have tried under /usr/share/fonts, ~/.fonts etc. but the font doesn't appear in Obconf (after X restart)
[09:28] <m0niker> exactly
[09:28] <jim_p> lakitu, IntuitiveNipple what happened?
[09:28] <IntuitiveNipple> jim_p: He finally removed the USB drive and it worked!
[09:28] <m0niker> score
[09:28] <lakitu> jim_p: =P i just removed the bootable usb drive. i wouldn't've thought a processor boot hang would occur because of that
[09:28] <IntuitiveNipple> jim_p: I thought he'd done that earlier when we first suggested it, seeing as it was the most obvious thing
[09:29] <ay^> NM I found a solution ;)
[09:29] <lakitu> IntuitiveNipple: =/ sorry
[09:29] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu: It was booting from that USB device, I bet! and you said yourself it was messed up :)
[09:29] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu: I think you were just testing me and jim, and knew this all along, really :D
[09:30] <fodoso> what is the latest stable version of ubuntu?
[09:30] <IntuitiveNipple> fodoso: 8.04 Hardy heron
[09:30] <lakitu> IntuitiveNipple: very good IntuitiveNipple-san. you have deciphered my teaching well
[09:30] <lakitu> .
[09:30] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu: lol
[09:30] <jim_p> IntuitiveNipple, lakitu  lol
[09:30] <ompaul> ay^, I searched with dia documentation and I got http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/docs.html  please try harder ;-)
[09:30]  * IntuitiveNipple throws a heavy Linux manual at lakitu 
[09:30] <lakitu> lol. shoot!
[09:30] <fodoso> and how often is the stable version released?
[09:30] <ompaul> !ubuntu
[09:31] <m0niker> do it, why not
[09:31] <IntuitiveNipple> fodoso: 6 months... next one is 8.10 Intrepid Ibex, on October 30th
[09:31] <trigpin> need advice , im building a computer , got everything just about to put mother board in do i need insulators ?
[09:31] <m0niker> ha, sorry
[09:31] <m0niker> ??
[09:31] <IntuitiveNipple> trigpin: insulators for what?
[09:31] <trigpin> lol i know not really ubuntu related
[09:31] <m0niker> !?
[09:31] <ay^> ompaul: so did I
[09:31] <lakitu> as consolation, i *did* google, & i am not afraid of read documentation
[09:31] <ompaul> fodoso, every 6 months you get a new version, - if called LTS it is supported for 3 years on the desktop 5 years on the server - if not it is 18 months
[09:31] <m0niker> get insulstors
[09:32] <lakitu> readING
[09:32] <jim_p> IntuitiveNipple: where is that databese/wiki page?
[09:32] <IntuitiveNipple> lakitu: you want bonus points now? hehehe
[09:32] <trigpin> IntuitiveNipple,  to stop the mother board touching metal case and fring
[09:32] <lakitu> IntuitiveNipple: haha, no - redemption points tho =)
[09:32] <lakitu> anyway, thanks you two
[09:33] <ay^> ompaul: tho the problem I had, had no obvous solution in, the faq, or tutorial or twiki
[09:33] <jim_p> !audio
[09:33] <ay^> ompaul: where in all of that did you find my solution?
[09:33] <fodoso> how good is multimedia support in ubuntu? can it cope with the changing media formats?
[09:34] <ompaul> ay^, I am not reading it for you - if it is not there, then you need to file a bug, if it is there be happy, your bug is a wishlist you can file it directly with gnome or with ubuntu via launchpad
[09:34] <IntuitiveNipple> jim_p: this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SndHdaIntelSoundProblems
[09:34] <ay^> ompaul: but I did read it mysef, and found no solution, thus resorted to asking in here.
[09:35] <jim_p> IntuitiveNipple: YES!!!!
[09:35] <ay^> and if I had found no answer no-where, then I would have filed a bug.
[09:35] <outbackwifi> fodoso: is ther a particular format you have in mind?
[09:35] <m0niker> fodoso: can you write changing formats?
[09:35] <m0niker> contribute
[09:35] <fodoso> outbackwifi: yes, window media.
[09:35] <jim_p> someone please inform the bot about that page
[09:35] <m0niker> ?
[09:35] <outbackwifi> fodoso: drm protected, no
[09:36] <IntuitiveNipple> fodoso: You should be reading the Ubuntu web-site, and using Google search: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[09:36] <fodoso> ubuntu is owned by Canonical?
[09:37] <killerboy> hello
[09:37] <m0niker> yo momma
[09:37] <killerboy> whare can i download full patchset for timidity?
[09:37] <Myrtti> fodoso: no
[09:37] <killerboy> i mean, what was the problem with eaw patches etc.?
[09:38] <IntuitiveNipple> fodoso: Please go and read this and related pages of the web-site to answer your questions: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu
[09:38] <fodoso> Myrtti: is it fair to say that the stable of ubuntu will tend to have more recent packages than the stable of debian?
[09:38] <User7492> is there open source gatorade
[09:39] <Myrtti> fodoso: depending on when the stable debian has been released wrt latest stable ubuntu
[09:39] <lakitu> good question User7492. i have reverse engineered gatorade to such a degree that open source gatorade is now possible
[09:39] <fodoso> Myrtti: of course, we must compare latest to latest for both sides.'
[09:39] <patco444> The Best Online RPG / Strategy game ever : http://www.fallensword.com/?ref=1461055
[09:40] <Myrtti> shitbag: please change your nick ASAP
[09:40] <quentusrex-lapto> I've enabled the compiz advanced settings manager. But I can't find where the command/shortcuts list is.  Where do I find out how to use the features I've enabled? like the alt+tab to access the different windows, etc.
[09:40] <Myrtti> to something more appropriate, thanks.
[09:40] <DigitalFiz> lol
[09:41] <fodoso> Canonical can decide to commercial ubuntu, anything to stop it doing so?
[09:41] <fodoso> any covenant?
[09:41] <Myrtti> fodoso: the fact that it's open source?
[09:42] <fodoso> Myrtti: when it is so popular that it can become a good source of revenue.'
[09:42] <IntuitiveNipple> quentusrex: In the c-c-s-m program itself, for each plugin/effect, the configuration dialog will have several tabs. One of them, usually called something like "Key Bindings" or "Bindings" will have the key-press shortcuts
[09:43] <Myrtti> fodoso: they're already making some good revenue with support/customization, why bother pulling it to commercial?
[09:43] <meoblast001> sorry i timed out
[09:44] <Myrtti> fodoso: this discussion is however somewhat offtopic to ubuntu support, I suggest we continue it at #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:44] <IntuitiveNipple> fodoso: We were indulging you by answering some of your questions earlier, because they were on the borderline of 'support' which this channel is intended for, but now you're straying off-topic - you should try the room #ubuntu-offtopic for your questions
[09:44] <dexter> any idea which s/w will convert html pages to pdf
[09:44] <fodoso> Myrtti: how many big corporations are using ubuntu?
[09:44] <Myrtti> fodoso: #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[09:44] <crdlb> dexter: you can use a web browser and print to file > pdf
[09:44] <fodoso> ok
[09:45] <lorenzosu> Hi all.
[09:45] <dexter> crdlb; well i want 2 make a single pdf file out of the many pages...is it possible??
[09:45] <lorenzosu> I'v tried following the instructions on this forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=f5de5634f4448d733a599c23e4bb0257&p=2776815&postcount=1 but keyring still pops up for wifi. Laptop is home laptop so woud be happy to eliminate it.
[09:46] <IntuitiveNipple> dexter: htmltopdf in the poppler-utils package
[09:46] <IntuitiveNipple> dexter: scratch that, I got my wires crossed!
[09:47] <zetheroo-ubuntu> is it possible to turn off having to see all the information in this chat screen like "so and so is Away" ?
[09:47] <aruru> hi, wanted to ask is there an issue with amuled upnp configuration on ubuntu hardy?... cose i read that on hardy i should install manually some addition library libupnp2 i think... the reason im asking is that my upnpn amuled configuration is not working- my router is ddwrt54gl with dd-wrt poject software
[09:48] <dexter> IntuitiveNipple: ya i installed the package...thanq.....but then how do i use it.....any idea.....its installed but how to convert it....??
[09:49] <zetheroo-ubuntu> is it ok to install the latest GIMP in Hardy?
[09:49] <lorenzosu> is there a time-out for questions :)?
[09:50] <zetheroo-ubuntu> when I try to remove the default GIMP in HArdy, Synaptic want to also remove ubuntu-desktop ... is that bad?
[09:51] <IntuitiveNipple> dexter: you mis-understood me I think... I got myself confused. I remembered using poppler-utils, but I was converting PDFs to HTML, not the other way around :)
[09:52] <IntuitiveNipple> dexter: For HTML to PDF, use Firefox to print to the system PDf printer, which goes to a PDF file-name you give it
[09:52] <lorenzosu> zetheroo-ubuntu: ubuntu-desktop is a MetaPackage.
[09:52] <kwyjibo> is there a way to sort desktop icons by date modified?
[09:52] <outbackwifi> !patience| lorenzosu
[09:53] <zetheroo-ubuntu> lorenzosu : so its not good to remove it ... shoudl I just install the latest GIMp over the present one?
[09:53] <Tokorona> This might be a stupid question, but is there anyway to set up vsftpd to allow public-key authentication and nothing else?
[09:53] <sakhi> Hi, I've just installed Ubuntu 8.04 with ltsp, when I boot the client it gives me the following errors pxe-01: file not found and pxe-e3b: tftp error file not found and pxe-mof: exiting pxe rom any ideas on how I could solve this problem?
[09:53] <s0u][ight> hello i've installed apache2 and php5
[09:54] <lorenzosu> outbackwifi: I wasn't being impatient. Sorry if I gave that impression. Just wanted to make sure my call was recorded, and I appreciate people's effort on this channel.
[09:54] <s0u][ight> html scripting works fine
[09:54] <outbackwifi> lorenzosu: you're welcome
[09:54] <s0u][ight> but php scripts don't come on my screen
[09:54] <lorenzosu> zetheroo-ubuntu: One of the handy features of apt (the packaging system used by Ubuntu) is the use of metapackages. These packages do not contain actual software, they simply depend on other packages to be installed. This setup allows entire sets of software to be installed by selecting only the appropriate metapackage. Source: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MetaPackages
[09:54] <paul68> it has been a while that I installed a mysql server on my server, I also remembered mysql requested a password however I don't recall how can I retreive this?
[09:54] <Tokorona> s0u][ight: Have you tried running <?php phpinfo() ?>
[09:54] <balz> I enabled port forwarding on my router for an apache web server (TCP port 80) but I still can't connect to my web server from the external network (local net works fine) ... I have no idea where to start looking, any ideas?
[09:54] <zetheroo-ubuntu> outbackwifi: where are you from?
[09:55] <Serafeim> need help for wireless support
[09:55] <lorenzosu> zetheroo-ubuntu: [...] ubuntu-desktop: In addition to ubuntu-base, this package depends on all of the packages in the Ubuntu desktop system. It installs a desktop environment (GNOME) and lots of software for home and office use. (ibid.)
[09:55] <Tokorona> er.. that should be phpinfo();
[09:55] <IntuitiveNipple> balz: what do the external clients report?
[09:55] <outbackwifi> zetheroo-ubuntu: hereabouts
[09:56] <balz> IntuitiveNipple:  infinite loading
[09:56] <zetheroo-ubuntu> outbackwifi: your not Aussie... are you?
[09:56] <jim_p> !mandriva
[09:56] <outbackwifi> zetheroo-ubuntu: does it matter?
[09:56] <kwyjibo> is there a way to sort desktop icons by date modified?
[09:56] <Skeeve> HI. Im wondering, how much time i need to instal DSL-200 to Ubuntu 8? Is it diificult for a starter?
[09:56] <ompaul> !offtopic
[09:56] <zetheroo-ubuntu> outbackwifi: yep ... cause if you are ... gday from someone in Melbourne! :)
[09:56] <paul68> it has been a while that I installed a mysql server on my server, I also remembered mysql requested a password however I don't recall how can I retreive this?
[09:57] <balz> IntuitiveNipple:  SSH works from outside of the newtork, so i'm guessing that rules out a router/port forwarding issue?
[09:57] <lorenzosu> zetheroo-ubuntu: That means that if you uninstall an application (as GIMP is) which is part of the MetaPackge (in that your case ubuntu-desktop) you are "breaking" the metapackage so that it has to be "removed" from the system. That doesn't mena that it will actually be removed.
[09:57] <Jordan_U> Serafeim: What chipset?
[09:57] <outbackwifi> zetheroo-ubuntu: gday mate
[09:57] <Serafeim> please, can someone help me to make wireless to work in my laptop?
[09:57] <ziroday> kwyjibo: you can try opening the Desktop in the file browser, and then sorting by date
[09:57] <ziroday> !wifi | Serafeim
[09:57] <outbackwifi> Serafeim: what seems to be the issue
[09:57] <kwyjibo> ziroday: that's awful
[09:57] <ziroday> kwyjibo: sorry, I don't follow?
[09:58] <zetheroo-ubuntu> outbackwifi: any idea about the activities of the Ubuntu community in Oz? ....
[09:58] <Serafeim> ok, I will chech the documentation first
[09:58] <outbackwifi> zetheroo-ubuntu: ubuntu-au
[09:58] <kwyjibo> ziroday: what is the point in having the desktop if it doesn't render the way you want it?
[09:58] <obf213> hello. im having strange behavior been using ubuntu for a while all of a sudden videos and dvds are getting played in black and white even on VLC!. the behavior is weird though if i oepn a video once it will be in b&w,if i open another vlc then the video is in color?
[09:58] <balz> Serafeim:  what kind of card you you have?  check to make sure it's compatible if you haven't already
[09:58] <zetheroo-ubuntu> outbackwifi: is that an IRC channel?
[09:58] <IntuitiveNipple> balz: After adding the port 80 forwarding rule, did you restart the router?
[09:58] <ziroday> kwyjibo: you are more then welcome to talk to the nautilus dev's about your issue or file a bug with them
[09:59] <outbackwifi> zetheroo-ubuntu: yes
[09:59] <balz> IntuitiveNipple:  no.  I don't think it's necessary, but i guess there's no harm in trying. brb
[09:59] <IntuitiveNipple> balz: also, are you sure that the router web control-panel isn't causing an issue?
[09:59] <submin> Hello!
[09:59] <balz> IntuitiveNipple:  how would the web control pannel cause an issue?
[09:59] <kwyjibo> ziroday: :(
[09:59] <ziroday> submin: Hi!
[09:59] <submin> I recently bought a new s-ata2 drive.. if i format it to fat32 in ubuntu with gparted, are the files I copy there accessible on Windows vista?
[09:59] <brime> anyone know of a good forum board or link to using fdupes to backup a single copy of many duplicate files? I'v been at it for 5 hours....
[09:59] <RolandD> ok then, ubuntu just died twice in a row :(
[10:00] <ziroday> submin: yes
[10:00] <IntuitiveNipple> balz: well, it is also bound to port 80 ... usually *only* on the internal LAN interfaces, but it isn't unknown for a misconfigured system to cause issues with redirecting port 80 through
[10:00] <submin> ziroday: ok, thank you!
[10:00] <ziroday> submin: have fun
[10:00]  * outbackwifi wonders how ubuntu can die
[10:00] <RolandD> How I can reproduce it: press CTRL-ALT-F5 then CTRL-ALT-F7
[10:00] <zetheroo-ubuntu> outbackwifi: thanks ... would you perchance happen to know if its safe to install GIMP 2.6 in Ubuntu Hardy ... without removing the older one!?
[10:00] <submin> ziroday: :P sure.
[10:00] <RolandD> screen stays black with white cursor
[10:00] <balz> IntuitiveNipple:  so i should check to make sure that remote admin isn't enabled?  anything else that i should check?
[10:00] <dexter> IntuitiveNipple: hey i did dat ..nd i got it...thanxx...but i m able 2 say only each page 2 each pdf file...i want 2 put all the html pages into a single pdf file....how can i do dat???
[10:00] <outbackwifi> zetheroo-ubuntu: i guess it is; yu can  also uninstall the one that came with hardy
[10:01] <Frogzoo> zetheroo-ubuntu: it should just upgrade itself - unless you're mixing repos, which isn't a good idea
[10:01] <IntuitiveNipple> balz: yeah check that, but, check the port-forwarding rules don't have to be enabled somewhere other than the actual rule definition, too !
[10:01] <lorenzosu> Apologies for repeat, but many new joiners :): I'v tried following the instructions on this forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=f5de5634f4448d733a599c23e4bb0257&p=2776815&postcount=1 but keyring still pops up for wifi. Laptop is home laptop so woud be happy to eliminate it.
[10:01] <outbackwifi> roland: that does not mean it died, it just means theres  no terminal there. just press ctl=alt+f7 to come back
[10:01] <Frogzoo> zetheroo-ubuntu: oh - 2.6 - I wouldn't recommend it
[10:02] <balz> IntuitiveNipple:  I don't think they do.  SSH forwarding works perfectly.  I'm wondering if there could be a mis-configuration server-side
[10:02] <IntuitiveNipple> dexter: I'm not sure, last time I was doing PDF stuff I was using Scribus and some other PDF editor that was a bit flakey
[10:02] <outbackwifi> lorenzosu: system->preferences->keyring and remove the key for your network
[10:02] <zetheroo-ubuntu> Frogzoo: why not?
[10:02] <xubuntuuser> ﻿Does anybody know how to use double-buffering in netBeans / Swing Components (or does anybody know a better irq channel)?
[10:02] <ziroday> xubuntuuser: ##java
[10:02] <IntuitiveNipple> balz: possibly... try running tcpdump or wireshark (as root) on the server PC and monitoring TCP port 80 for incoming connections
[10:02] <quentusrex> Does anyone know of a way to manage ssh connections? I have about 30 different boxes that I have to ssh into, and I'd love to see a graphical way to see if the host is up, and a way to click to open a terminal with the connection.
[10:03] <RolandD> outbackwifi: I will try it now :)
[10:03] <Frogzoo> zetheroo-ubuntu: typically using repos not built for your system leads to grief
[10:03] <xubuntuuser> ziroday: i can't connect to ##java: "You need to be identified to join that channel"
[10:03] <balz> IntuitiveNipple:  what is the command for the tcpdump?
[10:03] <balz> is it just tcpdump?
[10:03] <cpu_temp> How do I raise the number of open files? I wrote in limits.conf "user hard nofile 20000" and I uncommented pam_limits.so line in /etc/pam.d/su. What else must I do?
[10:03] <IntuitiveNipple> tcdump  and a load of options :D
[10:03] <Flannel> !nickspam > BT_Head_Ninja
[10:03] <Jordan_U> !identify | xubuntuuser
[10:03] <zetheroo-ubuntu> Frogzoo: I would not be using another repo ... its avialable at getdeb
[10:03] <lorenzosu> outbackwifi: What exactly do you mean with "remove the key for your network"
[10:04] <ziroday> xubuntuuser: this is the wrong place to ask. Ask in #freenode
[10:04] <outbackwifi> lorenzosu: i mean remove the entry that the keyring made for holding your wep/wpa key
[10:04] <Frogzoo> cpu_temp: "*               hard    nofile          64000"
[10:04] <IntuitiveNipple> balz: try: sudo tcpdump -i $INTERFACE -n -l -O tcp dst 80
[10:04] <lorenzosu> outbackwifi: The only entry I see is "login" under the "Password Keyrings" tab
[10:05] <Frogzoo> zetheroo-ubuntu: then I see no problem
[10:05] <Frogzoo> zetheroo-ubuntu: just download & install it, it should upgrade automatically
[10:05] <jimmie32> hey all :D
[10:05] <outbackwifi> lorenzosu: then you have not identified your problem correctly
[10:06] <david_> hello. how do i run a ".run" file?
[10:06] <IntuitiveNipple> balz: make that: sudo tcpdump -i $INTERFACE -n -l -O tcp dst port 80
[10:06] <jimmie32> Anyone knows a good FTP Client for Ubuntu?
[10:06] <IntuitiveNipple> balz: make that: sudo tcpdump -i $INTERFACE -n -l -O tcp dst port 80
[10:06] <zetheroo-ubuntu> Frogzoo: so it should replace the older version?
[10:07] <IntuitiveNipple> jimmie32: GUI or command line?
[10:07] <david_> i downloaded a .run file and now i dont know how to run it, any help?
[10:07] <jimmie32> GUI
[10:07] <IntuitiveNipple> david_: make it executable (chmod a+x <filename>) then execute it: ./<filename>
[10:07] <outbackwifi> david_: only if you know what that file does upon running :)
[10:08] <balz_> IntuitiveNipple:  I assume I have to replace $INTERFACE with something like 'eth0' so I did, and i got this:  louis@server:~$ sudo tcpdump -i eth0 -n -l -O tcp dst 80
[10:08] <balz_> tcpdump: 'tcp' modifier applied to host
[10:08] <Frogzoo> zetheroo-ubuntu: yep
[10:08] <lorenzosu> outbackwifi: I'm sorry. I'll try to reexplain. I have auto-log-on for my own (only) account. As I access the desktop I get a keyring password prompt from the network manager before it will connect to a (WPA) home wifi network. Upon input of the password (same as log-in and sudo password) the network manager correctly connects to the wifi. I would like to avoid the password prompt.
[10:08] <IntuitiveNipple> jimmie32: Nautilus, the Gnome file-system navigator does FTP... see the Places > Connect to Server... menu
[10:08] <IntuitiveNipple> balz:  Yes, I mistyped... try the modified line I just gave you
[10:08] <ziroday> !ftp > jimmie32
[10:08] <jimmie32> oh thank you :)
[10:08] <outbackwifi> lorenzosu: that happens because the keyring is asking permission from you to open the keyring to fetch the WPA key
[10:09] <balz_> IntuitiveNipple:  could you send it again?  I was disconnected for a minute or so (router reboot)
[10:09] <IntuitiveNipple> jimmie32: Firefox (and most web browsers) also do FTP if you type the address in the address-bar as ftp://<host.domain.name
[10:09] <jimmie32> ok, thanks all, I used gftp :)
[10:09] <IntuitiveNipple> balz: make that: sudo tcpdump -i $INTERFACE -n -l -O tcp dst port 80
[10:09] <lorenzosu> outbackwifi: Can the permission asking be skipped/automatized?
[10:10] <IntuitiveNipple> jimmie32: For example, try this in firefox: ftp://ftp.archive.ubuntu.com/
[10:10] <amanu> is jim_p there im back
[10:10] <outbackwifi> lorenzosu: sure, i dont get asked
[10:11] <lorenzosu> outbackwifi: Do you know how to achieve it?
[10:11] <jimmie32> IntuitiveNipple: Yes, it works, thank you! :)
[10:11] <RolandD1> ok, that didn't go so well ;)
[10:11] <jimmie32> I gotta go, cya all
[10:11] <sudoconfused> cya jimmie32
[10:11] <RolandD1> outbackwifi: I get a black screen, can see the cursor and no response from any key
[10:11] <balz_> IntuitiveNipple:  now i get the output:  Usage: tcpdump  and a bunch of options in brackets
[10:11] <outbackwifi> RolandD1: what do you get when you press ctl+alt+f1
[10:12] <RolandD1> I might not respond immediately :)
[10:12] <zetheroo-ubuntu> whats a good app for converting audio files?
[10:12] <Frogzoo> balz_: sudo tcpdump -i eth0 -n -l -O tcp dst port 80
[10:12] <Bert_2> Hi, I'm trying to change my primairy DNS or add a secundairy but nm-applet isn't saving anything at all and editing /etc/resolv.conf doesn't work either, how am I supposed to set it then ?
[10:12] <outbackwifi> lorenzosu: my wpa passphrases are stored in network manager and not the keyring (this was the default with 7.04 not 8.04)
[10:12] <balz_> Frogzoo:  win! thanks
[10:12] <balz_> IntuitiveNipple:  okay i got the TCP dump going. what next?
[10:12] <Frogzoo> Bert_2: resolv.conf is it
[10:13] <BlueEagle> RolandD1: I missed the start of that conversation. What didn't go so well?
[10:13] <lorenzosu> outbackwifi: In fact this behavior started with upgrade to 8.04
[10:13] <Bert_2> Frogzoo: if I edit /etc/resolv.conf then nm-applet changes it again when I reconnect
[10:13] <Bert_2> Frogzoo: and also there has to be a GUI way to do that, knowing ubuntu
[10:13] <outbackwifi> lorenzosu: when you right click on nm and go to edit wireless networks, do you see your home network there?
[10:14] <IntuitiveNipple> balz: If I test it here, internally, I see: http://pastebin.intuitivenipple.net/123
[10:14] <cpu_temp> Frogzoo: I did that and rebooted and nothing changed
[10:14] <dexter> any idea how to convert all html pages to a single pdf file
[10:14] <outbackwifi> lorenzosu: there is an option that says always allow access to keyring, select that and you should be done
[10:14] <cpu_temp> dexter: html2pdf
[10:14] <outbackwifi> dexter: by all, do you mean the entire  internet?
[10:14] <IntuitiveNipple> balz: so do an internal LAN test like that first, then try again from outside... see if tcpdump shows the external connections reaching the PC... if not, you know the router is at fault
[10:15] <zetheroo-ubuntu> anyone?
[10:15] <outbackwifi> balz: you will not be able to do that from inside the network; you need to ask a friend to try and connect from OUTSIDE your network
[10:16] <ziroday> zetheroo-ubuntu: sound converter
[10:16] <zetheroo-ubuntu> thanks
[10:16] <balz_> IntuitiveNipple:  I get hits on the internal network.  I'll need someone to check the external network though... mind if I give you the addres and have you try?
[10:16] <BlueEagle> zetheroo-ubuntu: that depends on what kind of conversion you're attempting to make.
[10:16] <dexter> outbackwifi: no i meant there is notes from which i have 2 study....its on several html pages....now i want 2 convert all these pages into pdf
[10:16] <IntuitiveNipple> balz: If you want to see the incoming packets, *and* the responses (if any), use this command: sudo tcpdump -i $INTERFACE -n -l tcp port 80
[10:16] <IntuitiveNipple> balz: sure... want to give it me privately?
[10:17] <balz_> IntuitiveNipple:  yes, that would be great
[10:17] <dexter> cpu_team; hey i checked in my repository, it does not exist
[10:17] <outbackwifi> dexter: thats better, use html2pdf like cpu_temp suggested
[10:17] <submin> hi, one more question
[10:17] <Frogzoo> cpu_temp: ulimit -n 64000
[10:17] <dexter> cpu_team; hey i checked in my repository, html2pdf does not exist
[10:17] <cpu_temp> Frogzoo: I want it permanently, not just to the next reboot
[10:18] <wert> selam
[10:18] <outbackwifi> !info html2pdf
[10:18] <submin> when i try to boot to windows vista from grub, i get "a disk read error occured, press ctrl alt del to restart" error. is there any way possible to do something equal to windows' "chkdsk /r" command in ubuntu?
[10:18] <wert> TÜRK YOKMU????
[10:18] <submin> i don't have any windows vista dvd:s here right now so i cant use the vista repair console
[10:19] <Tokorona> ah.. nevermind. vsftpd apparently doesn't do what I wanted it do, so I'll need to find something else. Sorry for bothering you.
[10:19] <outbackwifi> !tu
[10:19] <algomes93> i don't install my Canon pixma 1800!!! help me please!!!
[10:19] <comicinker> Hi! Is there a possibility to unpower the internal USB Hub by sowtware?
[10:19] <Bert_2> !ubuntu-tu
[10:19] <Flannel> !tr | wert
[10:20] <RemsSs> hi everybody
[10:20] <submin> hi
[10:20] <mn> hello
[10:21] <algomes93> When install my pixma 1800 show error libglib1.2 => libglib1.2ldbl!!!
[10:21] <RolandD> outbackwifi: ok, I got a tty terminal but going back to CTRL-ALT-F7, same black screen and no keyboard response. Reboot. Tried the same before logging in. Got the tty terminal again on CTRL-ALT-F1, got back to the login screen with CTRL-ALT-F7. On logging in the welcome sound is played and the system hang there while playing the sound. Reboot again. Normal login, no problems.
[10:22] <submin> any help please? :>
[10:22] <outbackwifi> roland: apparently your X server is crashing, might be hardware related
[10:22] <ljsoftnet> submin, whats your problem?
[10:22] <algomes93> any help please?
[10:23] <submin> when i try to boot to windows vista from grub, i get "a disk read error occured, press ctrl alt del to restart" error. is there any way possible to do something equal to windows' "chkdsk /r" command in ubuntu?
[10:23] <submin> i don't have any windows vista dvd:s here right now so i cant use the vista repair console
[10:23] <submin> thank you for any help!
[10:23] <dean_> does anyone know anything about campcaster?
[10:23] <RolandD> outbackwifi: is there any logfile I can check? Or just no time for writing logs when it crashes?
[10:23] <outbackwifi> Roland: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:24] <outbackwifi> submin: thats a question for microsoft and the vista support team; you paid for it when you bought vista; go exercise your right
[10:24] <algomes93> Roland !! After help submin !!! you can help me?
[10:25] <Flannel> outbackwifi: Please be helpful
[10:25] <submin> outbackwifi: i'm trying to ask if there's any program to do chkdsk /r equvalient thing in ubuntu
[10:25] <assargadon> point me to some guide on Ubuntu installing on computer without CD-ROM (noutbook, in my case).
[10:25] <outbackwifi> Flannel: you take the vista related questions
[10:26] <Flannel> outbackwifi: If you don't want to help, that's fine, but don't be rude.
[10:26] <lorenzosu> outbackwifi: Ok will check that out. Gtg thanks for the support.
[10:26] <airtonix> submin, the equivilant in linux is fsck
[10:26] <outbackwifi> lorenzosu: yw
[10:26] <karex> HI, i've installed kubuntu-desktop and the boot splash become kubuntu, how to set it back to orange-ubuntu
[10:26] <karex> ?
[10:26]  * outbackwifi wonders whats rude about showing people the right way
[10:27] <airtonix> submin, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SystemAdministration/Fsck
[10:27] <Flannel> outbackwifi: Reread his question.
[10:27] <submin> airtonix: thank you very much, i'll try. but is it able to fix ntfs partitions?
[10:27] <airtonix> submin, no i dont think so
[10:27] <submin> ouch :S
[10:27] <Flannel> karex: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplash
[10:27] <ubud> need help to install netgear WG311T wireless card
[10:27] <airtonix> submin, for that the most reliable wayt o fix a ntfs partition is to use windows tools unfortunatly
[10:28] <outbackwifi> Flannel: he broke his vista installation when he installed ubuntu
[10:28] <ubud> !madwifi
[10:28] <submin> ok, so i'll have to find my vista dvd. but thank you anyway guys :)
[10:28] <outbackwifi> submin: great
[10:28] <airtonix> submin, if you cant boot then put another drive in and install windows again, then use the fix tools on the old drive
[10:28] <algomes93>  airtonix:  I don't install my printer pixma 1800 show error about libglib1.2 => libglib1.2ldbl!!!  Do you can help me?
[10:28] <submin> by the way, not related to this, do you guys know when ATI Radeon HD4870 will work properly with ubuntu?
[10:29] <ufk> how can i disable the check-tables that mysql does after each reboot?
[10:29] <submin> airtonix: yeah, i'll try that.
[10:29] <airtonix> algomes93, most probably not sorry
[10:30] <RolandD> outbackwifi: If you don't mind, please have a look at the file: http://pastebin.com/d57cf0a6b
[10:30] <algomes93> airtonix: thanks!!!
[10:31] <ailean> hi all.  I don't get any sound from flash vids.  But my sound IS working in general.  can someone help?
[10:31] <astsubay_tokat> xzzxc
[10:32] <ssaboum> ailean : if you are running something like audacious or vlc and firefox + the plugin flash player
[10:32] <ssaboum> ailean : there 's a good chance that it won't work
[10:32] <airtonix> submin, there are some list that describe chipsets and their compatability...maybe your card is listed there...
[10:32] <ssaboum> ailean : because the flash player plugin is ... a bit buggy
[10:32] <outbackwifi> roland: is your card an ATI ?
[10:32] <outbackwifi> !ati
[10:33] <airtonix> ssaboum, the use of aoss can help sometimes
[10:33] <ailean> ssaboum, it's the adobe flash player and i'm not running either audacious or vlc
[10:33] <ssaboum> ailean : in order to use it to watch you tube for examble you should kill the other process that are using your sound card
[10:34] <airtonix> ssaboum, ailean : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/alsa-oss
[10:34] <ssaboum> check by typing ps -e | grep vlc    that vlc is not ... half dead
[10:34] <RolandD> outbackwifi: there is a big sticker on my laptop saying Graphics By ATI :) Thanks for the link, will check it out and thanks for your support too.
[10:34] <outbackwifi> roland: yw
[10:34] <ubud> I need help to install netgear wg311T. anyone can help
[10:34] <outbackwifi> !ask|ubud
[10:34] <ailean> ssaboum, vlc is not installed - it's a fresh install
[10:35] <kallkso> how do i open a file in a text editor as root?
[10:35] <outbackwifi> gksu gedit file
[10:35] <h4wk0> kallkso: sudo gedit name.txt
[10:35] <ubud> how to install netgear WG31T wireless card
[10:36] <submin> any info on that hd4870? :)
[10:36] <airtonix> kallkso, if gedit is taking too long for you to open, i suggest using mousepad or leafpad
[10:36] <outbackwifi> ubud: you need to tell us what you have done till now and where you got stuck
[10:37] <ubud> outbackwifi: I have already install ndiswrapper
[10:37] <gluonman> I'm trying to get my wallpaper plugin to work in Compiz so that I can use it to have 4 separate wallpapers on my cube to ultimately construct a moon globe. I've looked through forums and found that I have to patch nautilus, but I have no idea what that entails. What must I do and how shall I do it?
[10:37] <airtonix> kallkso, but its important to remember that if your running a gui based app as root, use gksu or gksudo...where as a terminal based app will only require sudo
[10:37] <outbackwifi> !wifi|ubud
[10:37] <BlueEagle> gluonman: Are you familiar with coding c/c++?
[10:37] <gluonman> BlueEagle, yes.
[10:38] <saykou> how do i get that cool beryl instead of that minus compiz that s u ck
[10:38] <Flannel> saykou: beryl and compiz have merged.  beryl doesn't exist anymore.
[10:38] <airtonix> saykou, :)
[10:38] <saykou> but beryl has more stuff
[10:38] <ngirard> Hi all, there's something wrong with one of my disks, /dev/sdc. gparted can display its contents (2 partitions /dev/sdc1 and /dev/sdc2) but these partitions are not created any more. vol_id /dev/sdc2 returns an error: error opening volume.
[10:38] <ngirard> Any thoughts ?
[10:38] <airtonix> saykou, name them
[10:38] <BlueEagle> gluonman: Then you'd need to get hold of the source code for nautilus. Read trough it and look for where it defines, draws and well handles wallpapers and modify that code to support more than one wall paper I think.
[10:38] <kallkso> thanks, also when i try to open a root terminal, it says su account expired, how do i fix that
[10:38] <bebe> hello
[10:38] <saykou> that scene when you close the windows
[10:39] <Flannel> kallkso: You don't use the root login, use sudo instead.
[10:39] <saykou> lots of it compinz aint that cool 4 screens shots
[10:39] <airtonix> saykou, scene?
[10:39] <saykou> airtonix, yeh
[10:39] <bebe>  * Starting web server apache2                                                                                                                               apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[10:39] <gluonman> BlueEagle, okay. I can try that. I just figured finding those patches and knowing where to place them would allow me a lazier way around this.
[10:39] <saykou> compinz has only few stuffs airtonix
[10:39] <airtonix> saykou, the word scene when used with 'closing windows' doesnt make sense
[10:40] <Flannel> bebe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Troubleshooting%20Apache
[10:40] <ngirard> Additional info: gparted says: "unable to read the contents of this filesystem" for both partitions
[10:40] <airtonix> saykou, have you looked at the compiz website to confirm your belief?
[10:40] <Flannel> saykou: That's not correct.
[10:40] <BlueEagle> gluonman: I don't think any such patches exist. However if (or, depending on your conficence level, when) you make it work I think the nautilus team might want to have a copy of such a patch as it's a quite nice feature.
[10:40] <saykou> i would guess so, from the videos that are on youtube of beryl
[10:40] <airtonix> saykou, because, i have all sorts of things here like spherical deformations on workspace change to name one
[10:41] <gluonman> BlueEagle, yes it is. I just saw it referenced in a forum that some guy named adamruss submitted two patches that were said to work. I'm just trying to find those.
[10:41] <saykou> and why my dvix aint work when compiz is on
[10:41] <xm8888> 你好
[10:41] <BlueEagle> gluonman: Well, then you've done more research into the issue than I have.
[10:41] <BlueEagle> :)
[10:41] <ss23> Any ideas on how to fix my sound. Nothing I try playing from any application and it doesnt work. Im fairly sure that its not a fault with the connection between the headphones and the sound card, as when I run "sudo /sbin/alsa force-reload", a loud poping sounds can be heard. Ive tried restarting, and am out of ideas. Remeber, my sound was working prevoius to starting WINE today
[10:41] <ss23> Any ideas?
[10:41] <gluonman> BlueEagle, I'll figure it out, and let the world know when I have success.
[10:42] <owner_> hello
[10:42] <xm8888> 没有中国人吗？／
[10:42] <airtonix> saykou, http://www.compiz-fusion.org/
[10:42] <mn> !cn
[10:42] <mn> !jp
[10:42] <saykou> airtonix im there
[10:42] <owner_> i am  chinese  ,but i  can't use pinyin
[10:42] <saykou> i have donwloaded and installed
[10:42] <xm8888> 没有中国人吗
[10:43] <xm8888> 没有中国人吗
[10:43] <airtonix> saykou, take the time to look around, there is some images of stuff being used
[10:43] <xm8888> 没有中国人吗没有中国人吗
[10:43] <FloodBot3> xm8888: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:43] <xm8888> 没有中国人吗
[10:43] <owner_> I  am chinese
[10:43] <BlueEagle> !ch | xm8888
[10:43] <saykou> will do airtonix
[10:43] <BlueEagle> !cn | xm8888
[10:43] <mn> !jp | xm8888
[10:43] <airtonix> saykou, ill hunt down a thread for you in ubuntuforums.org
[10:43] <saykou> airtonix, do have the same problem i have with the dvix with compinz on
[10:43] <BlueEagle> mn: He's chineze, not japaneze.
[10:43] <owner_> how  i  can use  chinese
[10:43] <submin> !fi
[10:44] <ss23> No one have any ideas?
[10:44] <airtonix> saykou, video peformance and compiz are related to your hardware.
[10:44] <newfive> i installed wubi, but on an external hard drive, when i bootup the computer to ubuntu, all i get is an underscore _ bliking, what do i do? does it mean that at boot up it doesnt recognize the usb drive?
[10:44] <mn> click the link
[10:44] <mn> !cn | owner_
[10:44] <BlueEagle> mn: Not all irc clients make channel names clickable.
[10:44] <saykou> ati vga airtonix
[10:45] <airtonix> saykou, need better info than that, try this : open a terminal, and run : lspci | grep ati
[10:45] <Flannel> newfive: I'm not sure wubi will work on a USB drive.  Windows may not know how to boot to USB
[10:45] <airtonix> saykou, then paste that info at paste.ubuntu.com
[10:45] <mn> blueeagle: i know, that's why i adressed the !cn to him
[10:46] <airtonix> saykou, good thread here you should read about compiz : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=809695
[10:46] <saykou> thanks airtonix
[10:46] <airtonix> saykou, ok thats the same card i had before my current system
[10:46] <trigpin> do mother board heat up ? will they burn plastic ?
[10:47] <airtonix> saykou, its not fun to use ... i dont recommend you try to use compiz
[10:47] <saykou> i had allready installed the drivers some how airtonix
[10:47] <paul68> is there a way to retreive the pasword from a mysql server?
[10:47] <ss23> Any ideas on how to fix my sound. Nothing I try playing from any application and it doesnt work. Im fairly sure that its not a fault with the connection between the headphones and the sound card, as when I run "sudo /sbin/alsa force-reload", a loud poping sounds can be heard. Ive tried restarting, and am out of ideas. Remeber, my sound was working prevoius to starting WINE today
[10:48] <trigpin> !alsa
[10:48] <BlueEagle> paul68: If you have the mysql root password you can get the encrypted password of all users from the mysql database.
[10:48] <BlueEagle> paul68: However there's no easy way to decrypt/unhash them.
[10:48] <airtonix> saykou, aye, you will ... but there are several drivers available for it and there is only one that will provide you with a stable & fast setup...i ended up returning to feisty because i wanted dual screen with compiz
[10:49] <philip_> ss23: what does "lsof |grep pcm" say?
[10:49] <ss23> Ill just check
[10:49] <paul68> BlueEagle: goodmorning can I solve it by reinstalling or is that useless?
[10:49] <airtonix> saykou, truly... i recommend sticking with metacity instead of running compiz & emerald
[10:49] <ss23> rhythmbox 6580       ss23  mem       CHR     116,16            24843 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[10:49] <ss23> rhythmbox 6580       ss23   24u      CHR     116,16            24843 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[10:49] <saykou> ok
[10:50] <BlueEagle> paul68: a dpkg --configure mysql-server-5.0 might do the trick.
[10:50] <saykou> thanks for the help airtonix
[10:50] <black_feather> hi guys how to install conky??? i have downloaded the .tar.gz file
[10:50] <s0u][ight> hello i have a server and i've installed apache2 and php5
[10:50] <airtonix> saykou, the paths i took to get that working were tremendous...i forget half the stuff i had to do :(
[10:50] <trigpin> black_feather,  you could just sudo apt-get install conky
[10:50] <philip_> ss23: now "kill 6580" and alsa should work
[10:51] <BlueEagle> paul68: Hmm.. that doesn't seem to work either.
[10:51] <philip_> better: kill -9 6580
[10:51] <s0u][ight> apache works fine but php doesn't work
[10:51] <black_feather> its that simple.... thanks trigpin
[10:51] <s0u][ight> so my php scripts in my html pages aren't shown
[10:51] <newfive> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/10/10/move-wubi-ubuntu-install-to-an-external-usb-drive/
[10:51] <newfive> i found my answer
[10:51] <saykou> no problemo i will get a new laptop soon with nvidia vga airtonix
[10:51] <s0u][ight> http://xinp.no-ip.org here you can take a look
[10:51] <paul68> BlueEagle: I noticed that to ;-)
[10:52] <ss23> No luck philip_, restarted Rhythm box and no sound still
[10:52] <BlueEagle> paul68: dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0
[10:52] <BlueEagle> paul68: that does the trick.
[10:52] <black_feather> hi idid that trigpin but where is conky now????
[10:53] <philip_> ss23: then instead of your ""sudo /sbin/alsa force-reload" do
[10:53] <trigpin> black_feather,  one sec
[10:53] <black_feather> okay
[10:53] <philip_> "/etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart"
[10:53] <ss23> sudo philip_ ?
[10:53] <trigpin> black_feather,  nano ~/.conkyrc
[10:54] <black_feather> ok
[10:54] <philip_> ss23: yes, with sudo
[10:54] <trigpin> black_feather, type that in terminal its in home folder
[10:54] <philip_> but probably thats the same as the force-reload
[10:54] <ss23>  * Shutting down ALSA...                                                 [ OK ] * Setting up ALSA...                                                    [ OK ]
[10:54] <ss23> Still no sounds philip_
[10:54] <philip_> again, kill the output of "lsof|grep pcm"
[10:54] <black_feather> yup trigpin did that
[10:55] <ss23> ok
[10:55] <philip_> sorry, then I can't help
[10:55] <ghaleb> hello, how can I start 'script' to record console output and commands for each ssh access ?
[10:55] <ss23> Ok thanks for you help anyway philip_ :)
[10:55] <paul68> BlueEagle:thanks how do I get to my mysql server through the browser?
[10:55] <airtonix> trigpin, there is a default conkyrc you can copy to the home folder.
[10:56] <BlueEagle> paul68: Please rephrase that question in a manner that makes sense. :)
[10:56] <BlueEagle> paul68: Do you want a web-based interface to manage your mysql server?
[10:56] <airtonix> trigpin, /usr/share/conkyforecast/example/conkyrc
[10:56] <airtonix> trigpin, woops
[10:56] <paul68> blueeagle yes please :-)
[10:56] <BlueEagle> paul68: phpmyadmin will do that.
[10:57] <black_feather> btw i did download a .conkyrc from ubuntuforums
[10:57] <trigpin> black_feather,  listen to airtonix
[10:57] <BlueEagle> paul68: and, as always, you're welcome. :)
[10:57] <airtonix> trigpin, black_feather nice page about conky here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205865
[10:57] <black_feather> ok trigpin
[10:57] <black_feather> thank you airtonix
[10:57] <airtonix> black_feather, and here : http://www.ubuntugeek.com/conky-a-light-weight-system-monitor-for-ubuntu-linux-systems.html#more-89
[10:58] <killerboy> hello
[10:58] <killerboy> how to configure services in ubuntu?
[10:58] <killerboy> i mean deamons
[10:58] <airtonix> killerboy, it depends which ones
[10:59] <paul68> blueeagle what would the adress be in the browser?
[10:59] <BlueEagle> paul68: 127.0.0.1/phpmyadmin perhaps. Not sure.
[10:59] <BlueEagle> paul68: Just installing it myself now.
[10:59] <trigpin> need advice making computer , do i need insulators to block mother board and metal case ?
[11:00] <karex> HI,is there a simple IDE for C/C++ to create small program (IOI)?
[11:00] <killerboy> airtonix, not gnome one, /etc/init.d ones
[11:00] <airtonix> killerboy, most config files for daemons are in /etc/
[11:00] <killerboy> i mean how to set them to run on boot or not
[11:00] <karex> IOI = international olimpiade in informatics
[11:00] <killerboy> some app for configuration?
[11:00] <histo> Trying to connect to my router via ssh and console but all the text based browsers are giving me hell on the setting screen for my router.
[11:00] <airtonix> killerboy, they usually set themselves to run at boot time
[11:01] <histo> I'm on a windose box so I can't forward X and I need to open a port on the remote computer.
[11:01] <balz_> histo: you can still forward x using TightVNC
[11:01] <airtonix> killerboy, when you install them i mean, but you can manually control them with common parameters like : (apache for example) sudo /etc/init.c/apache2 restart
[11:01] <killerboy> i'll try to be more exact: does there exist some program where you can set up which services should be run on which runlevel, sort of runlevel editor?
[11:01] <histo> balz_: but you need cygwin don't you
[11:02] <airtonix> killerboy, or :  sudo /etc/init.c/apache2 force-reload
[11:02] <BlueEagle> paul68: http://localhost/phpmyadmin does the trick.
[11:02] <airtonix> histo, no you can use xming
[11:02] <balz_> histo:  i'm not sure what cygwin is.   I just installed TightVNC client on the doze box and did sudo apt-get install tightvncserver on the ubuntu box
[11:02] <airtonix> histo, xming is great for bringing xForwarded apps to windows
[11:02] <histo> airtonix: airtonix what is xming
[11:02] <killerboy> airtonix, there was something like this in redhat called ntsysv
[11:02] <balz_> works like a charm. you might have to start the tightvncserver on the ubuntu box first.  I believe the command is tightvncserver
[11:02] <airtonix> histo, ill get a page for you ...
[11:03] <histo> balz_: nvm i miss read what you typed i'm tring to open up a port for tightvnc actually.
[11:03] <BlueEagle> !cygwin
[11:03] <paul68> blueeagle not working on my side
[11:03] <balz_> histo:  aaah nvm
[11:03] <Deubeuliou> hi
[11:03] <BlueEagle> paul68: is apache2 started?
[11:03] <BlueEagle> paul68: also, did you select apache2 to be automatically reconfigured?
[11:03] <histo> airtonix: I can't install anything on the windows box.
[11:04] <airtonix> histo, then your out of luck
[11:04] <Deubeuliou> I have a rtl8187b chipset and have troubles getting it working: when I boot the liveCD with "single" options, I can see it with lsusb and with iwconfig
[11:04] <histo> So basically I am connecting to a remote computer via ssh and trying to connect5 to the router its behind fromt hat machine and open a port. The text based browsers are not working and my router is complaining when I try to save the chagnes.
[11:04] <paul68> BlueEagle: how do I check this, if I run just http://localhost/ the page indicates it works
[11:04] <Deubeuliou> but as the boot resumes, it disappears
[11:04] <BlueEagle> paul68: then it works. :)
[11:05] <BlueEagle> paul68: but localhost/phpmyadmin does give you an error?
[11:05] <killerboy> anybody could help me?
[11:05] <BlueEagle> !ask | killerboy
[11:05] <philip_> does anybody know a channel to discuss buying a laptop? I need some opinions on cpu options, lcd screen and batteries
[11:05] <killerboy> i asked
[11:06] <Deubeuliou> the only relevant thing I see in dmesg is "usb 7-4 : USB disconnect, address 3"
[11:06] <BlueEagle> killerboy: Sorry, missed your question then.
[11:06] <airtonix> killerboy, there is ...its in the admin menu
[11:06] <paul68> BlueEagle: yes it states phpmyadmin cannot be found however when I run apt-get install phpmyadmin it states it's installed
[11:06] <killerboy> and i suppose most people know the answer
[11:06] <gluonman> I'm using compiz 0.7.6. I followed a how-to to install the wallpaper plugin, but neglected the fact that it was a how-to for users of compiz 0.7.4 (the older version). 0.7.6 already came pre-packaged with a wallpaper plugin that didn't seem to do anything, and at the time I wasn't aware that I needed to patch nautilus. Where can I find the 0.7.6 wallpaper plugin to use after I uninstall the 0.7.4 one I replaced it with?
[11:06] <airtonix> killerboy, system -> admin -> services
[11:06] <BlueEagle> paul68: Then you probably didn't choose apache2 to be reconfigured during the install of phpmyadmin
[11:06] <killerboy> there aren't all services
[11:06] <BlueEagle> paul68: dpkg-reconfigure phpmyadmin and select your apache installation to be reconfigured.
[11:07] <paul68> so I need to do dpkg-reconfigure phpmyadmin
[11:07] <killerboy> i'd like to stop timidity, but there is no such option in this configurator
[11:07] <paul68> BlueEagle: oeps you beat me to it lol I get the hang of this ;-)
[11:07] <BlueEagle> paul68: That might solve it.
[11:07] <killerboy> why isn't it listing all services?
[11:08] <BlueEagle> killerboy: rcconf might help.
[11:08] <BlueEagle> !info rcconf
[11:08] <m0niker> is this compbiz  ....beryl?
[11:08] <killerboy> BlueEagle, thanks
[11:09] <BlueEagle> killerboy: You're welcome.
[11:09] <paul68> BlueEagle: do I need to restart mysql afterwards?
[11:09] <BlueEagle> paul68: That shouldn't be neccessary. You might have to run: /etc/init.d/apache2 reload
[11:10] <BlueEagle> paul68: But I don't think that should be neccessary either.
[11:10] <paul68> BlueEagle: still same error
[11:11] <paul68> BlueEagle: or is it case sensitive?
[11:11] <saykou> any one plays ron on ubuntu?
[11:12] <moncojhr> hello
[11:12] <KeyserSoze_> hi
[11:12] <moncojhr> whats going down man
[11:13] <henux> Listen
[11:13] <BlueEagle> paul68: it is case sensitive, yes.
[11:13] <owner_> 终于能用中文了
[11:13] <obf213> hey where do custom themes that you've instaleld go?
[11:13] <obf213> been tryting to find tis info online for a while want to change color but can't find location of files and search is being worthless
[11:13] <moncojhr> hmm it goes in uuh
[11:14] <ljsoftnet> obf213, System>Preferrences>Appearance "Click on Customize"
[11:14] <henux> I installed the Ubuntu command line base system from alternate ISO. Then I installed xserver-xorg, slim and fluxbox. Any idea how to get volume up/down and mute buttons to work on my laptop?
[11:14] <obf213> ljsoftnet, thats not what i am looking for I am looking for the location of the files on the computer after you've installed them
[11:14] <finn> transmission: command not found
[11:14] <ruediix> Hello, I'm trying to build and install a program from a source tree on Ubuntu, where's a good guide on how to make a package out of it?
[11:15] <finn> even though I have transmission installed
[11:15] <moncojhr> its in your home directory in .themes
[11:15] <m0niker> torrents
[11:15] <BlueEagle> paul68: any luck?
[11:15] <ljsoftnet> obf213, ah ok, w8
[11:15] <BlueEagle> obf213: /usr/share is probably a good place to start your hunt
[11:15] <ljsoftnet> obf213, look in /home/yourusername/.themes
[11:16] <ljsoftnet> obf213, you need to "Show hidden files in nautilus"
[11:16] <paul68> BlueEagle: no no luck at all
[11:16] <obf213> cool cool thanks
[11:16] <ljsoftnet> np
[11:16] <henux> Ideas?
[11:17] <holst> In intrepid, the openafs-client is now started before network manager
[11:17] <holst> this is a bug, because if no eth interface is up during the openafs-client startup, it is not started
[11:17] <ruediix> Hello, can anyone point me to a good place for documentation on how to build .deb files on my Ubuntu system.  I normally install into /usr/loca to avoid conflictl, but since I'm debugging I want to replicate a full install as much as possible, so I need to make a .deb file.
[11:17] <moncojhr> hey, i've installed x11vnc on my xubuntu pc, and im connecting with ubuntu... and it seems a bit laggy, even though its on a 100mbit ethernet connection... what can i do to make it faster, and stop windows being dragged as wireframes
[11:18] <ruediix> */usr/local
[11:18] <BlueEagle> paul68: Check if this file exists: /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf
[11:19] <ruediix> moncojhr, windows are dragged as wire-frames in xubuntu by default, to change that look in your windowing environment settings.
[11:20] <moncojhr> ruediix: when im sitting infront of the machine they arnt wire-frames...
[11:20] <ruediix> monojhr, also x11vnc, is rather slow in general, it's just the nature of the beast.
[11:20] <ruediix> monojhr, it may be an x11vnc setting then.
[11:21] <moncojhr> ruediix: damn really? so should i use something else, i do want it to be able to view the current session
[11:21] <BlueEagle> paul68: does it exist?
[11:21] <paul68> BlueEagle: one moment I'll check
[11:22] <R_AG> plz what is the # void main () & int main() in c programing(classic)
[11:22] <BlueEagle> paul68: did you choose "apache" or "apache2" when doing dpkg-reconfigure phpmyadmin ?
[11:22] <paul68> BlueEagle: yes it does exist and yes I choose apache2 was selected by default
[11:22] <ruediix> moncojhr, try one of the newer VNC methods.  Also, if you want it to be simply non-interactive, just setup a viewer, instead of a full VNC, this will cut down on overhead.
[11:23] <moncojhr> ruediix: i need it to be interactive, can you recommend any?
[11:24] <RolandD> sometim
[11:24] <RolandD> oops
[11:24] <RolandD> regularly I have to wait for minutes before a URL opens
[11:24] <RolandD> however tracepath gets to the URL faster :-S
[11:24] <rsc--> any geeks know how to solve http://projecteuler.net/index.php?section=problems&id=208 ?
[11:25] <BlueEagle> paul68: in a terminal type: tail -f /var/log/apache2/error.log /var/log/apache2/access.log
[11:25] <BlueEagle> then look at that terminal when attempting to access http://localhost/phpmyadmin
[11:25] <IntuitiveNipple> rsc--: 162
[11:25] <devil> hello ubuntuers
[11:25] <ljsoftnet> hey
[11:25] <RolandD> lynx just seems to wait for something as the message stays: Making HTTP connection
[11:25] <ganesh> how do i edit boot menu?problem is in bios if i set hard disk 1 as first priority it boots to windows ,if i set to second hard disk it boots to ubuntu
[11:25] <ruediix> moncojhr, if you really want performance at the cost of a lot of bandwidth, you can use ordinary remote X11, but don't say I didn't warn you.
[11:26] <devil> ready for 8.10?
[11:26] <saykou> what 8.10 has for new?
[11:26] <moncojhr> ruediix: whats this called ? just "remote x11" ?
[11:27] <BlueEagle> paul68: the expected output is something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/56600/
[11:27] <devil> the new? i not yet to try it 8.10 beta
[11:28] <BlueEagle> paul68: paste the output you're getting from the log tail when attempting to acces the phpmyadmin
[11:28] <ruediix> moncojhr, remote X11 is where you run X11 over a TCP/IP connection.  It can run most accelleration except OpenGL (don't make me explain why OpenGL doesn't work currently)
[11:29] <RolandD> Lynx ended with unable to connect to remote host. Starting the same page right after that, it opens instantly :-S
[11:29] <ganesh> any one knows about how to edit boot menu...
[11:29] <BlueEagle> ganesh: the boot menu is located in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:30] <RolandD> trying to get to the next page of that forum page, and Lynx waits again with making HTTP connection
[11:30] <rsc--> IntuitiveNipple, how did you arrive at that?
[11:30] <ganesh> BlueEagle:can you help me editing..problem is in bios if i set hard disk 1 as first priority it boots to windows ,if i set to second hard disk it boots to ubuntu
[11:30] <rsc--> IntuitiveNipple, also, i doubt it's 162
[11:31] <devil> for edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst u must be su or root
[11:31] <IntuitiveNipple> rsc--: Seemed as good a number as any other :D
[11:31] <moncojhr> ruediix: im a bit confused at how its different to x11vnc...
[11:31] <BlueEagle> ganesh: Well, the grub.conf doesn't affect the bios settings.
[11:32] <rsc--> IntuitiveNipple, I'd venture to guess that the answer is in the 200,000+ range :P
[11:32] <BlueEagle> ganesh: So you should install grub to the master boot record of the disk you want to boot and then set up linux as one option and windows as another.
[11:32] <BlueEagle> ganesh: That way you don't have to go into the bios to change the boot order.
[11:32] <ruediix> moncojhr, try looking it up online, I never really messed with VNC that much, just looked at it's theory for the purpose of Virtual Machines.
[11:32] <BlueEagle> ganesh: Also, having the disks boot in an alternate order might confuse grub.
[11:33] <IntuitiveNipple> ruediix: moncojhr: Using Xdmx it can use OpenGL acceleration
[11:33] <BlueEagle> ganesh: ie, I had a setup with both sata and ide disks and that threw grub off something awfully.
[11:33] <BlueEagle> !grub
[11:33] <BlueEagle> ganesh: the last link from ubottu (above) might help you.
[11:33] <paul68> BlueEagle: http://paste.ubuntu.com/56603/
[11:34] <devil> if lost u can use super grub disk
[11:34] <ruediix> IntuitiveNipple, thanx for the info, that will be great for me running VMs.
[11:34] <IntuitiveNipple> ruediix: I've just fixed the xorg-server package for Hardy so Xdmx is once again built - currently it is only in my PPA, but there's an SRU to get it fixed in Hardy archives
[11:34] <svvvs> ﻿hello, i have a problem when using g++ & colorgcc
[11:34] <ganesh>  BlueEagle:i tried all those which are in this link...din work...thats why i am asking here..
[11:34] <ruediix> moncojhr, use Xdmx then.  Read it's documentation.
[11:35] <svvvs> ﻿it shows the output with color now but can't get the C++ program compile correctly
[11:35] <david_> hello
[11:35] <svvvs> anybody know why?
[11:35] <moncojhr> ruediix: alright ill havre a look into it, thanks ;-)
[11:35] <ruediix> IntuitiveNipple, is it in the backports file yet?
[11:35] <BlueEagle> paul68: close your browser (not just a tab) and re-open it and try again.
[11:35] <IntuitiveNipple> ruediix: moncojhr: It is in Intrepid, and was in Gutsy, but the debian folks got a FTBFS with it and disabled Xdmx and xdmx-tools in the package that sync=ed into Hardy
[11:36] <david_> what is the name of the compiz plugin that when you put the mouse pointer in the top right corser of the screen it will let you choose wich active window to view?
[11:36] <david_> corner*
[11:36] <IntuitiveNipple> ruediix: it'll be an SRU rather than a backport, if anything
[11:36] <svvvs> hi........................... ................... ..................
[11:36] <david_> it shows a preview of each window
[11:36] <BlueEagle> ganesh: Well, then you need to be more spesific with your question.
[11:36] <ganesh> how can i install grub to the disk where mbr is and how can i remove grub from other disk?
[11:36] <crdlb> david_: scale, it's only bound to shift+alt+up by default in ubuntu
[11:36] <svvvs> here plz, problem with g++ & colorgcc
[11:36] <svvvs> here
[11:36] <BlueEagle> ganesh: What are you trying to achieve and what does your menu.lst look like? !pastebin for a place to post the file.
[11:37] <ruediix> IntIntuitiveNipple, SRU runs a little on edge for me, I'll probably wait or do a custom build myself, on my next VM.
[11:37] <svvvs> ﻿it shows the output with color now but can't get the C++ program compile correctly:-D
[11:37] <\3TATUK> Hey.. approx. how long does it take for an oven to heat up from room temp. to 450 deg. F?
[11:37] <BlueEagle> ganesh: First off, to remove grub you have to replace it with another boot loader.
[11:37] <IntuitiveNipple> ruediix: Bug #242191
[11:37] <david_> crdlb, i dont have it enabled, i will check compiz settings manager and br back, thanks
[11:37] <BlueEagle> ganesh: to replace it with windows' default boot into windows and do fdisk /mbr
[11:37] <IntuitiveNipple> ruediix: oh, ubotto isn't talking bugs... https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/xorg-server/+bug/242191
[11:37] <BlueEagle> ganesh: or some such.
[11:37] <ganesh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/56604/    BlueEagle:
[11:38] <black_feather> hi can i get a list of installed packages in my ubuntu
[11:38] <paul68> BlueEagle: netstat -tap | grep mysql gives as output this tcp        0      0 *:mysql                 *:*                     LISTEN      5838/mysqld     same error after restarting browser
[11:38] <svvvs> somebody not busy here?
[11:38] <BlueEagle> ganesh: as to installing it on another disk you need to use the grub command line. Invoke it with `sudo grub` and run trough the how-to listed by ubottu and be sure you're specifying the hard disk you want.
[11:38] <ruediix> IntuitiveNipple, do you know a good guideto building .deb packages for Ubuntu, I need to build a .deb of the GIT version of wine for debugging, I'm finally getting into "real" debugging after years of putting it off.
[11:38] <david_> crdlb, yep thats it, thank you
[11:38] <black_feather> i mean is there a command????
[11:39] <svvvs> hi.... anybody not busy here?
[11:39] <BlueEagle> paul68: The problem is not mysql not working. The problem is apache2 not re-directing to /usr/share/phpmyadmin when you enter localhost/phpmyadmin in your web browser.
[11:39] <svvvs> i ve typed 3 times my problems and no response ......
[11:39] <IntuitiveNipple> ruediix: I think there may be a few but in the end I found working it out for myself as easier :)
[11:39] <devil> sorry svvvs i can't answer your question
[11:39] <svvvs> why devil?
[11:40] <killerboy> black_feather, apt-cache
[11:40] <killerboy> bye
[11:40] <black_feather> ok killerboy
[11:40] <black_feather> thank you
[11:40] <IntuitiveNipple> ruediix: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html
[11:40] <BlueEagle> svvvs: I saw you typing hi and a million punctuation marks earlier. After that I've ignored you.
[11:40] <BlueEagle> !guidelines | svvvs
[11:40] <paul68> BlueEagle: ok do I need to adapt my /etc/phpmyadmin/conf.inc.php ?
[11:40] <svvvs> sorry, i ll see it  ubottu
[11:41] <black_feather> is there a command to list all the packages that are currently installed??? apt-cache doesnt do it
[11:41] <BlueEagle> paul68: You should not have to do that.
[11:41] <paul68> BlueEagle: ok then I don't modify it
[11:41] <IntuitiveNipple> ruediix: I just noticed your comment "SRU runs a little on edge for me, I'll probably wait or do a custom build myself" - what do you mean by "little on edge" ?
[11:41] <ganesh> BlueEagle: i am not familiar with fdisk ......what exactly should i do?
[11:41] <BlueEagle> paul68: The problem lies in apache2 not loading the /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf correctly as far as I can tell.
[11:41] <ganesh>  BlueEagle: ya i ll try..
[11:42] <BlueEagle> ganesh: In windows you just do fdisk /mbr to replace the mbr of the primary master (or first disk as reported by BIOS) with windows' default master boot record.
[11:42] <BlueEagle> ganesh: in linux you need to setup grub to install to the mbr of the disk you want.
[11:43] <r3yn> hyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[11:43] <BlueEagle> paul68: However I cannot see any good reason why apache would ignore it. :/
[11:43] <ruediix> IntuitiveNipple On edge means not throughly stable.   I tend to build anything not throughly stable myself, just force of habbit,  I trust it better that way.
[11:43] <BlueEagle> paul68: did you try: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[11:43] <IntuitiveNipple> ruediix: SRU *is* a Stable Release Update !
[11:43] <karex> HI, anyone know best IDE for C/C++?
[11:43] <ikonia> karex: try eclispe
[11:44] <IntuitiveNipple> ruediix: The criteria for SRU is the only changes can be to address a specific bug.
[11:44] <ikonia> eclipse
[11:44] <r3yn> hyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[11:44] <BlueEagle> !hi | r3yn
[11:44] <ruediix> intuitiveNipple, oh, in that case, it will be proposed-updates soon already.
[11:44] <dan_> hello
[11:44] <karex> ikonia: does eclipse support single-source-file?
[11:44] <ruediix> IntuitiveNipple, sorry, I misunderstood.
[11:44] <IntuitiveNipple> ruediix: Once others have tested the package I've prepared and confirmed it works, it can move to SRU and if approved, to hardy-proposed then hardy-updates
[11:44] <ikonia> karex: supports as many as you want
[11:45] <paul68> BlueEagle: question what is the icon of the phpmyadmin.conf is it also one with a flash from the left bottom towards the right top
[11:45] <paul68> did that no change
[11:45] <IntuitiveNipple> ruediix: yeah... I was confused because I had missed your initial comment and only spotted it during a scroll-back
[11:45] <dan_> can anyone tell me why after changing my wallpaper 2  processes in top called gnome-appearanc are running at the same time? thanks
[11:45] <BlueEagle> paul68: I don't do icons.
[11:45] <kwyjibo> is gnome 2.24 going to be included with Intrepid Ibex?
[11:46] <ruediix> IntuitiveNipple, I usually start at proposed.  SRU I'll install case by case, but I won't load up the repo.
[11:46] <ikonia> kwyjibo: yes
[11:46] <paul68> BlueEagle:  when I go to nautilus to the specified drive I get this icon next to it was wondering if you got the same
[11:46] <karex> ikonia: i've tried anjuta. every creating project it creates too much file, even though it's only simple program
[11:46] <BlueEagle> dan_: I can only assume that they are needed to do what needs to be done.
[11:46] <BlueEagle> paul68: I don't use nautilus.
[11:46] <IntuitiveNipple> ruediix: SRU results in the -proposed package. SRU is the process of approval we go through to get into -proposed
[11:46] <paul68> BlueEagle: ok
[11:46] <IntuitiveNipple> ruediix: There is no "SRU" package stage
[11:47] <zetheroo-ubuntu> does xmm2 have a gui?
[11:47] <dan_> @BlueEagle: thanks, but I already changed the wallpaper. And it is taking up almost 84 percent of my CPU.?
[11:47] <BlueEagle> dan_: Does it continue to do so for an extended period of time?
[11:47] <ruediix> IntuitiveNipple yeah, I figured they wouldn't even bother putting it in a repository, considering the cycle.
[11:47] <IntuitiveNipple> ruediix: This may be interesting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[11:47] <BlueEagle> dan_: (that means several minutes, not 45 seconds)
[11:47] <dan_> @BlueEagle: 2 hours already.
[11:47] <zetheroo-ubuntu> anyone?
[11:47] <IntuitiveNipple> ruediix: Oh, it will, if it is a bug-fix, especially as Hardy 8.04 is long-term support
[11:48] <BlueEagle> dan_: Have you tried logging out and logging back in to see if that fixes the problem?
[11:48] <svvvs> sorry to ask again: g++ & colorgcc ,how to make them work fine together
[11:48] <BlueEagle> !info colorgcc
[11:48] <dan_> @BlueEagle: that sounds like a good idea. Thanks :)
[11:48] <ruediix> IntuitiveNipple, it may get sent to backports and proposed to merge if they don't consider the bug big enough, though.
[11:49] <zetheroo-ubuntu> looking for the xmms2 GUI
[11:49] <svvvs> ﻿BlueEagle i ve tried,no use
[11:49] <ruediix> *merge in the next bugfix
[11:49] <IntuitiveNipple> ruediix: no, not backports, because the source package is a large part of xorg-server !
[11:49] <zizou03> Hi, is anybody familiar with proFTPd?, I have it up and runnig, it works great locally but I just can't get conected by ftp'ing to my ip adres.. I get the connection refused error.. I have opned up both ports 20 and 21 and still no luck..
[11:49] <IntuitiveNipple> ruediix: backports would require all of the xorg packages to be backported too :s
[11:49] <paul68> BlueEagle: slapping my head against the wall how could I have been this stupid I'm remotely connected to my server where phpmyadmin is installed should be very wise to use that address as well instead of localhost
[11:49] <svvvs> ﻿ ubottu i ve installed colorgcc
[11:50] <ikonia> zizou03: thats nomrally a firewall
[11:50]  * BlueEagle slaps paul68s head against the wall *
[11:50] <zizou03> what firewall ikonia?
[11:50] <dissonans> how do I tell sudo not to reset the environment? I've added !env_reset to "Defaults" in /etc/sudoers, but my environment is still reset
[11:50] <zizou03> on the router?
[11:50] <paul68> BlueEagle: I deserved it stupid me
[11:50] <ikonia> zizou03: I don't know, I don't know your setup
[11:50] <ChrizC> Hi, every time I try to boot up Ubuntu, it boots me up into BusyBox command line, how can I stop it from doing this?
[11:50] <ikonia> zizou03: telnet to the port from an external source,
[11:51] <BlueEagle> paul68: I was going to ask you if you were on the machine where phpmyadmin was installed earlier, but I just assumed you were. :/
[11:51] <paul68> BlueEagle: the euro dropped but just a little tiny bit to late lol
[11:51] <zetheroo-ubuntu> ok ... I am waiting patiently ... :)
[11:51] <zizou03> Ok, going to try that
[11:51] <ikonia> zizou03: xmms2 is a server
[11:52] <zizou03> I forgot to add, that I'm kinda of new, so I have to google most of you advise here :p
[11:52] <sudoconfused> cya zizou03
[11:52] <zizou03> bye
[11:53] <BlueEagle> zizou03: That is a very, very sound thing to do.
[11:53] <zizou03> sound thing to do, lol.
[11:53] <ruediix> IntiuitiveNipple, yeah, I see why, that would be a problem.
[11:54] <paul68> BlueEagle: after this stupid intermezzo a usefull question how do I reach myphpadmin from the internet?
[11:55] <BlueEagle> paul68: http://ip-address-to-server/phpmyadmin or http://example.com/phpmyadmin if you've got example.com pointing to your server.
[11:56] <BlueEagle> paul68: If you're behind a router you would ofcourse have to route traffic to the server if you want to access it from an external ip.
[11:56] <dissonans> could someone help me stop sudo from resetting my environment?
[11:57] <dissonans> I've set !env_reset for Defaults, but it makes no difference seemingly
[11:57] <paul68> BlueEagle: I thought so, this means I have to use the adress to that port directly meaning port 5838 or am I wrong here?
[11:57] <BlueEagle> paul68: apache listens on port 80
[11:57] <ruediix> IntiuitiveNipple, anyways, back to my first question, do you know any documentation on how to build a custom package?
[11:57] <BlueEagle> paul68: it's a web interface so it's the webserver you want to reach.
[11:58] <zetheroo-ubuntu> where is the GUI for XMMS2?
[11:58] <ikonia> zetheroo-ubuntu: it's a server
[11:58] <ikonia> zetheroo-ubuntu: it's not like xmms (I said this earlier to you)
[11:58] <BlueEagle> paul68: (that would be port 80)
[11:58] <zetheroo-ubuntu> ikonia : sorry ... did not see it ...
[11:58] <ikonia> zetheroo-ubuntu: no need to apologize
[11:58] <zetheroo-ubuntu> ikonia : so there is no more xmms player?
[11:59] <ikonia> zetheroo-ubuntu: no
[11:59] <paul68> BlueEagle: you are so right in my case port 8080 since all the ports by my isp are blocked below the 1024 range its working by the way
[11:59] <ChrizC> Hi, every time I try to boot up Ubuntu, it boots me up into BusyBox command line, how can I stop it from doing this?
[11:59] <zetheroo-ubuntu> ikonia : why is that? ... nobody liked it?
[11:59] <ikonia> zetheroo-ubuntu: dead project
[11:59] <BlueEagle> paul68: There is an article on some ubuntu forums about securing your apache installation. You may want to have a look at it. Opening servers to the outside is a potential can of worms so think security first.
[11:59] <zetheroo-ubuntu> ikonia : hmmm ... ok ... sad though ... :(
[12:00] <paul68> BlueEagle: it's so logic when you know where to look taking a deep bow for the master
[12:00] <jianghongwei> hello,i am a newer.
[12:01] <olifant> looking for open source CAD drawing program
[12:01] <BlueEagle> paul68: Most things are logical. It's just a matter of learning how the system works so you can apply logic to it.
[12:01] <BlueEagle> :)
[12:01] <ruediix> IntuitiveNipple, anyways, back to my first question, do you know any documentation on how to build a custom package?
[12:01] <ljsoftnet> olifant, try looking in osalt.com
[12:01] <paul68> BlueEagle: once you know then and know where to look it is simple
[12:01] <BlueEagle> paul68: You're coming along quite nicely btw. Everyone experiences BFs like localhost on the wrong machine from time to time. :)
[12:02] <BlueEagle> paul68: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+securing+apache a lot of useful links there you might want to browse trough.
[12:02] <olifant> Hello ljsoftnet, Thanks for the info
[12:02] <ljsoftnet> olifant, ok
[12:03] <paul68> BlueEagle: thanks
[12:03] <B|ackPanther> What character is actually put in  if i press the "Enter " key in linux ?
[12:03] <HtheB> hi all :)
[12:03] <scuser> hi all, I'm trying to mount lustre file system with the option sec=plain, but there is an error that says "unrecognized mount option sec=palin"; any help ?
[12:03] <BlueEagle> B|ackPanther: \n
[12:03] <HtheB> what is the best solution to have a sidebar in Ubuntu?
[12:04] <BlueEagle> B|ackPanther: that's the new line character. Windows uses \r\n (carriage return and newline), and that often makes for an inverted M at the end of lines in many text editors.
[12:04] <ikonia> scuser lustre ?
[12:04] <ljsoftnet> HtheB, there might be for linux, i think its screenlets or desklets, try googling it
[12:04] <HtheB> thnx :)
[12:04] <kwyjibo> is it possible to change what renders the desktop, without switching away from using gnome?
[12:05] <ikonia> kwyjibo: what do you mean
[12:05] <scuser> ikonia: a network filesystem by sun, but is there is no option in mount that is sec=plain, is there any other alternative ?
[12:05] <BlueEagle> B|ackPanther: Did that help at all?
[12:05] <kwyjibo> ikonia: i'd like to ditch nautilus i guess
[12:05] <ikonia> scuser: cluster file system you mean
[12:05] <ikonia> scuser: not luster
[12:05] <z0r> What is wrong with this sh script http://rafb.net/p/PdMuLw81.html ? I am getting error 24: "Syntax error: end of file unexpected (expecting "then")
[12:05] <ikonia> kwyjibo: just don't use it
[12:06] <kwyjibo> ikonia: but it is responsible for drawing the desktop?
[12:06] <ikonia> kwyjibo: what do you want to use to draw the desktop
[12:06] <BlueEagle> z0r: that script is not 24 lines long.
[12:06] <scuser> ikonia: no, it's lustre :) http://www.sun.com/software/products/lustre/index.xml; try this
[12:06] <kwyjibo> ikonia: something that lets me sort icons by date modified, which nautilus does not do
[12:06] <ikonia> kwyjibo: I suggest you find a product first before worrying about changing
[12:07] <ikonia> scuser: I can't see support for that in the kernel file systems
[12:07] <BlueEagle> z0r: also #bash might be a more appropriate place to ask. It might be the ; before then
[12:07] <kwyjibo> ikonia: but i don't know which direction to look, if it is even possible
[12:07] <BlueEagle> z0r: not sure though.
[12:07] <ikonia> kwyjibo: you can change naulius sure - but you need something to replace it
[12:07] <kwyjibo> ikonia: suggestions to look up?
[12:07] <ikonia> kwyjibo: no
[12:07] <kwyjibo> ikonia: ???
[12:08] <BlueEagle> ikonia: thunar perhaps?
[12:08] <scuser> ikonia: yes, but I patched the kernel before and now lustre is working no my cluster, but I want to kerberize lustre ;)
[12:08] <ikonia> BlueEagle: nah
[12:08] <aaron> how can I check to see if my DVD writer has been recognized properly
[12:08] <indos12_> ae
[12:08] <samir> ubuntu
[12:08] <B|ackPanther> BlueEagle, thanks very much.All good now
[12:08] <Atomic_UE> Thanks, B|ackPanther! You ain't getting it back though
[12:08] <BlueEagle> ikonia: if you're looking for an alternative file browser. Not sure if gnome will let you use it to manage your desktop and if it will, how to set it up.
[12:08] <BlueEagle> B|ackPanther: Good to hear.
[12:08] <ikonia> scuser: I'd speak to the guy who wrote the patch to find out what options are supported
[12:08] <ikonia> BlueEagle: hes not looking for a file browser
[12:09] <BlueEagle> ikonia: Sorry, I probably mis-nicked then. :)
[12:09] <indos12_> ae hre
[12:09] <ikonia> !away > BlackOrc|away
[12:09] <ikonia> BlueEagle: no no, you where following the conversation
[12:09] <kwyjibo> BlueEagle: looking for an alternative thing to render desktop icons
[12:09] <amanu> can any one say me how to use compiz
[12:09] <ikonia> !compiz > amanu
[12:09] <scuser> ikonia: the manual says mount -t lustre -o sec=plain /dev/sda1 /mnt/mdt/ to mount with security options, but the server says unrecognized options
[12:10] <indos12_> huy
[12:10] <ikonia> scuser: man page for what ?
[12:10] <scuser> ikonia: not man pages, but the lustre manual itself.
[12:10] <indos12_> she
[12:10] <ikonia> scuser: ahh
[12:10] <samir> é
[12:11] <ikonia> scuser: I'd check with the patch authors to be honest, it maybe kernel version specific (for an easy example)
[12:11] <scuser> ikonia: do you know the patch authors ?
[12:11] <samir> linuxac
[12:12] <ikonia> scuser: no, but is there nothing in the comments of the patches, or the docs on the website you got the patches from ?
[12:12] <scuser> ikonia: well I'd check that
[12:13] <david_> hello
[12:13] <samir> ana said min maghrib
[12:13] <quanlitruong> hell all
[12:13] <quanlitruong> :D
[12:13] <ikonia> samir: pardon ?
[12:13] <DaCapn> Anyone else ever have trouble using SD cards greater than 1GB in size? Files beyond 1GB can't be copied or viewed (on an otherwise working card tested on other devices).
[12:13] <david_> is there a way to change the s-video output from pal to ntsc?
[12:13] <ikonia> david_: thats normally the software used to output to svideo
[12:13] <ikonia> david_: eg: the video player
[12:14] <quanlitruong> có ai trong này là người việt không ta :D
[12:14] <Jordan_U> DaCapn: fat32 has a 4GB file size limit
[12:14] <paul68> BlueEagle: do I have to be this carefull with apache when My server is behind my router and where the firewall of the router is already quite tight configured?
[12:14] <david_> ikonia, when i connect the laptop to the tv i get black and white...
[12:14] <david_> ikonia, any suggestions?
[12:14] <ikonia> david_: nope
[12:15] <liza0> if a system has a dual core athlon processor and 2GB of ram which linux version is best to get 32 bit or 64bit
[12:15] <ikonia> liza0: how much ram do you have
[12:15] <ikonia> liza0: what is your system used for
[12:15] <ikonia> liza0: what processor is it
[12:16] <liza0> development php,mysql and java
[12:16] <liza0> processor :Athlon x2 5400
[12:16] <RemsSs> hi everybody
[12:16] <ikonia> liza0: ahh probably be fine/simpler with 32bit
[12:16] <BlueEagle> paul68: Well it depends on what you provide on your webserver. As with any server there's a risk of exploits caused by bad coding. With apache/php in particular you need to be careful if you install 3rd party scripts for example as they may be broken and give unauthorized access to files.
[12:17] <BlueEagle> paul68: Thus I recomend using .htaccess for stuff not meant to be publicly accessable.
[12:17] <TuniX12> hi RemsSs
[12:17] <BlueEagle> paul68: other than that it's my (totally uneducated) opinion that apache2 is quite safe.
[12:18] <anders__> Can anyone recommend software like window active directory for ubuntu?
[12:18] <anders__> i wish to implement roaming profiles etc in my home network
[12:18] <ikonia> anders__: ldap
[12:18] <BlueEagle> !ldap | anders__
[12:18] <ikonia> anders__: ldap/nfs
[12:18] <paul68> BlueEagle: ok well the webserver I use here is just for testing purposes and I have a official webhosting so they know a lot about security in order for me to sleep very good a t night :-)
[12:18] <svvvs> find somebody help me with my g++ & colorgcc problem, i've tried everything i can find in Google, and man colorgcc, but they can't work together
[12:18] <anders__> bluedog, ikonia , thanks
[12:19] <BlueEagle> paul68: Then I suggest that you disallow access to your webserver from the internet unless you asolutely need to have it accessable from outside.
[12:19] <BlueEagle> paul68: You can still have it open to your local net tho.
[12:19] <paul68> BlueEagle: true
[12:19] <BlueEagle> paul68: ie. you block port 8080 from the outside but allow it inside.
[12:20] <Guest93017> how can i make i program work under the backgroud of ubuntu?
[12:20] <BlueEagle> Guest93017: That depends a bit on the program and when you need it to start.
[12:20] <BlueEagle> Guest93017: /etc/rc.local is a good place for commands you want to run at boot time.
[12:20] <aaron> trying to play vlc dvd getting error   [00000307] cdda access error: could not read block 127 from disc
[12:21] <jame> hello\
[12:21] <BlueEagle> Guest93017: to start a program on the command line and have it run in the background you can use screen or just append an & after it.
[12:21] <jame> is therre have anyone?
[12:21] <BlueEagle> !info screen > Guest93017
[12:21] <inertial> what's teh best way to turn a bunch of images into a single PDF?
[12:21] <BlueEagle> !info nohup > Guest93017
[12:21] <BlueEagle> Guest93017: I hope those two links from ubottu help.
[12:22] <guixin> 大家好哦呀
[12:22] <carandraug> inertial: I believe Gimp allows that. I know Photoshop used to allow that
[12:23] <carandraug> !jp | guixin
[12:23] <guixin> no
[12:23] <BlueEagle> inertial: You can print them to cups pdf-driver.
[12:23] <carandraug> !cn | guixin
[12:23] <guixin> yes
[12:23] <svvvs> yes what?
[12:23] <guixin> iknow
[12:23] <EdLin> !il
[12:23] <FloodBot3> ubottu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:23] <svvvs> ......
[12:24] <guixin>  ～～～
[12:24] <carandraug> guixin: sorry if you are offended. Those characters make no difference to me
[12:24] <ikonia> guixin: this channel is english only
[12:24] <BlueEagle> haha
[12:24] <guixin> haha
[12:24] <svvvs> hoho
[12:24] <guixin> very good
[12:24] <inertial> i'll take a look at gimp..
[12:24] <ompaul> !offtopic
[12:25] <ompaul> !botabuse
[12:25] <zetheroo-ubuntu> has anyone used manslide in Ubuntu here?
[12:25] <HtheB> Does anyone know where to get a sidebar for the screenlets?
[12:25] <ikonia> zetheroo-ubuntu: I've never heard of manslide
[12:25] <zetheroo-ubuntu> ikonia: ok .. its a slideshow app ...
[12:26] <HtheB> found it :P
[12:26] <media> I remember hearing that compiz offloads graphics to the gpu more so than a standard gnome desktop for example. Does this extend to video decoding in VLC or is that still a cpu-intensive process?
[12:26] <zetheroo-ubuntu> ikonia: http://www.getdeb.net/app/ManSlide
[12:26] <zetheroo-ubuntu> ikonia: installs and runs fine ... just cannot find the final exported file ... :)
[12:26] <guixin> can i upload files?
[12:27] <ikonia> zetheroo-ubuntu: thats from an external repo, best to get advice from the guy who packaged it
[12:27] <Guest93017> BlueEagle: my problem is i work in ssh to my ubuntu server and i execut 1 python script then he didnt leave me to do other things in the screen. the quetion is how can i make that program work under the backround of my screen?
[12:27] <ikonia> guixin: upload where ?
[12:27] <zetheroo-ubuntu> ikonia: indeed
[12:27] <ikonia> guixin: nohup
[12:27] <zetheroo-ubuntu> ikonia: do you know of any good slideshow apps for Ubuntu?
[12:27] <ikonia> guixin: sorry - not your
[12:27] <kate43432> Hello , I need help please , i install apache on my server , does it possible to block all ips , and to allow just 3 ip address to access the server ?
[12:27] <guixin> use xchat
[12:28] <ikonia> Guest93017: nohup
[12:28] <guixin> use xchat
[12:28] <ikonia> guixin: where do you want to upload files to
[12:28] <guixin>  to all of you
[12:28] <ikonia> guixin: no you can't
[12:28] <BlueEagle> Guest93017: then you just append a single ampersand after the command: ./myscript.py &
[12:28] <guixin> why
[12:28] <paul68> Guest93017: you can install screen and use a second screen to launch your work and detach it when leaving
[12:28] <media> I dont want your files brah
[12:28] <guixin> ?
[12:28] <ikonia> guixin: because that functionality doesn't exist, and you shouldn't upload files to people who don't wwant it
[12:29] <guixin> ...
[12:29] <media> ikonia, I'm gonna upload some files to you, its cool right? ;)
[12:29] <ikonia> media: please don't feed the situation
[12:29] <Guest93017> paul68: i need that script work always when i close the screen the script stoped
[12:29] <ikonia> Guest93017: nohup and &
[12:29] <ikonia> Guest93017: or use screen
[12:29] <guixin> is anyone use skype here
[12:29] <ikonia> guixin: yes
[12:30] <guixin> tell me
[12:30] <guixin> your
[12:30] <ikonia> guixin: tell you what ?
[12:30] <ikonia> guixin: no -
[12:30] <guixin> ID
[12:30] <guixin> hehe
[12:30] <guixin> why
[12:30] <ikonia> guixin: this is an ubuntu support channel, do you have an ubuntu support question ues/no
[12:30] <carandraug> !ot | guixin
[12:30] <BlueEagle> inertial: ps2pdf seems to be popular for creating pdf-files, however I'm not sure how suitable it will be for your needs.
[12:30] <frybye> guixin: sure thing .. skype is cool... ;=)
[12:30] <paul68> Guest93017: when you use screen you can launch this script and when you detach the screen the job will continue even if you close your session with the server
[12:30] <guixin> i am a smart boy
[12:30] <ikonia> guixin: this is an ubuntu support channel, do you have an ubuntu support question ues/no
[12:30] <media> srsly?
[12:30] <guixin> and you maybe a good girl
[12:31] <media> wow... even this channel has 'sudo' functionality
[12:31] <rober1> hello guys
[12:31] <frybye> ikonia: I assumed he had a support ? about using skype in hardy etc...
[12:31] <paul68> Guest93017: for example I use Irssi at work and run it with a screen detached I can pickup the conversation when I come home by reattaching the screen again
[12:31] <ikonia> frybye: no, he didn't
[12:31] <rober1> I stick in some wlan troubles
[12:31] <ompaul> frybye, na, he had a troll point where he wanted to wander :)
[12:32] <frybye> ikonia: yeah I saw that a couple of lines after the answer...
[12:32] <paul68> but you have to install screen on your server in able to do this
[12:32] <rober1> can someone here give me some advise how to run the ath9k driver?
[12:32] <media> rober1, you do it with linux
[12:32] <rober1> yeah
[12:33] <rober1> opengeu, kernel 2.24
[12:33] <frybye> if smbdy is a bit more clever - they can meet folks in the OT channel and then pm to get the skype ID.. but that takes them having a bit of common sence.. heheh
[12:33] <media> rober1, I'm guessing ath9k is... a wireless driver?
[12:33] <rober1> 2.6.24
[12:33] <rober1> yeah, that's right
[12:33] <media> rober1, did you try loading the module using modprobe?
[12:33] <rober1> I've a asus f6a laptop with an atheros ar5008 chipset
[12:34] <frybye> is there some technical reson why sometimes there are loads of users listen here and in #ubuntu+1 but for ages no dialoge at all on the +1 channel?? has this anything to do with irc-netsplits or similar...?
[12:34] <rober1> no, I din't. the instructions I followed did say anything about modprobe
[12:35] <frybye> or is it just that more dialogue runs there than there...?
[12:35] <media> rober1, did the instructions tell you to add an entry into /etc/modules and restart or use module helper
[12:35] <nhorning> hey there
[12:35] <nhorning> I've been trying to fix my net connections
[12:35] <nhorning> in ibex
[12:35] <BlueEagle> frybye: slightly off-topic, but there are many who run a detatchable irc client that is joined to the channel but they themselves don't attend the irc chat all the time.
[12:35] <media> isnt ibex still +1?
[12:36] <nhorning> and I installed wicd
[12:36] <media> or do I fail at ubuntu releases?
[12:36] <nhorning> and that didn't work
[12:36] <nhorning> and I can't manually connect
[12:36] <nhorning> my wireless card is detected
[12:36] <carandraug> nhorning: you should ask at #ubuntu+1
[12:36] <nhorning> oops
[12:36] <nhorning> thought I was in there
[12:36] <media> not so much
[12:36] <nhorning> sry
[12:36] <rober1> no, the instructions didn't. media
[12:37] <media> rober1, so what did the instructions tell you to do exactly?
[12:37] <rober1> do you know a page with a good howto media?
[12:37] <media> rober1, wireless is fairly subjective. I'll look around
[12:37] <ompaul> frybye, no, and you are offtopic for random discussion please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:38] <frybye> ompaul: sorry I thought it was a legit question related to the both channels.. i am not looking for "random discussion."
[12:38] <paul68> BlueEagle: can I message you?
[12:38] <rober1> install linux headers, download compat-wireless, extract and compile it. unload and load module
[12:39] <Frogzoo> frybye: +1 is for discussion of beta ubuntu
[12:39] <BlueEagle> paul68: go ahead.
[12:40] <media> BlueEagle, can I get your skype id so we can upload files to eachother?
[12:40] <BlueEagle> media: You can not.
[12:40] <media> BlueEagle, darn
[12:40] <scuser> hi all, the mount option sec doesn't work with mount command is there an alternative or I missed a package to install ?
[12:40] <BlueEagle> media: #ubuntu-offtopic, but I assume you already know. :)
[12:41] <media> rober1, were there any other howtos specific to ubuntu and drivers in the repositories? Based on that howto I'm assuming there are drivers available so you wont need ndiswrapper
[12:41] <blueeyez> need help to setting up thunderbird in ubuntu
[12:42] <ikonia> blueeyez: whats up
[12:42] <frybye> blueeyez - if you install via synaptic it hardly nees setting up - except for your email accounts etc..
[12:43] <ia> hello, everybody. could you tell me please, if i would like to use some ppa repo from launchpad, where can i get *.asc key for such repo?
[12:44] <ompaul> ia, ask in #ubuntu-motu methinks
[12:44] <frybye> ia - bare in mind that if you ad a repo from a trusted souce - it will still actually be working (and giving a warning...) if you do not get the key..
[12:44] <ia> frybye: yes, i know. but i don't like warnings :-)
[12:45] <ompaul> ia, well have a look here and poke the dev if you can't find keys https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart
[12:45] <frybye> ia - figures - but if you just need a single packet or two... ;=)
[12:45] <media> anyone here know of any way to enable video card acceleration of video playback on older hardware? HD is destroying my athlon xp system
[12:45] <jemark> ok ben terug
[12:45] <airtonix> im trying to find the graphics that are used when you control sound volume with the keyboard
[12:47] <media> airtonix, you mean the volume bar that's displayed? or do you want to change the key bindings for volume control?
[12:47] <scuser> hi all, the mount option sec doesn't work with mount command, is there an alternative or I missed a package to install ? Here is the command I used " mount -t lustre -o sec=plain /dev/sda8 /mnt/data/mdt/"
[12:47] <airtonix> media, the overlay graphic that fades in when you use those keybindings...im trying to find the path where they are located
[12:48] <media> airtonix, hmm... no idea, sorry. Perhaps look for more information in theme modification forums?
[12:48] <Serafeim> i have sound problems in my laptop, please help
[12:48] <media> airtonix, there must be a directory somewhere in gnome for such dialogues
[12:49] <media> airtonix, perhaps run a file search for images in gnome directories
[12:49] <airtonix> media, for that to be effective i would need to know what the files are named
[12:50] <media> airtonix, or cycle through them quickly to find the right one
[12:58] <RandyboY> I have a rather new laptop. An Acer Aspire 6920. But there are things that isnt good yet.. The touchpad(which controls the sound ie) to the left isnt flawless. It works, but shows the wrong soundvolume (not the worst), and the screen-light buttons (Fn + arrow up/down) isnt working at all. And ofcourse the fingerprintreader also isnt working at all... Anyone knows how to fix all or some of these problems?
[12:59] <bingungaja> i tried to compile linux-uvc, but i can't find any trunk folder, anyone can help me out please
[12:59] <ComradeHaz> the only thing I could suggest is using ndiswrapper and tryig to get the windows drivers doing it for you
[12:59] <omko> hi guys.. i could use some help.
[12:59] <omko> i have just installed ubuntu 8.10. I have installed openssh-server. the problem is that after I issue a command that returns (somewhat) a lot of date (e.g. cat /var/log/syslog) my ssh sessions appears to hang. this happens with both putty and securecrt.
[12:59] <omko> the problem even happens when I do a "ls /etc"
[12:59] <omko> the sshserver version i am using is 1:5.1p1-1ubuntu2 (at least i think it is)
[12:59] <FloodBot3> omko: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:03] <jazzinghen> Hi
[13:03] <BlueEagle> omko: I am guessing you're using a gigabit network with a cat5 cable.
[13:04] <BlueEagle> omko: If you force the network card to run at 100 mbit then you should not experience that error anymore.
[13:04] <omko> no... i am on 100mb cat5
[13:04] <BlueEagle> omko: Then your cable may be broken.
[13:04] <BlueEagle> omko: Try forcing 10mbit to see if that helps or replace your cable.
[13:04] <omko> hmm... ok.. let me try that. thanks for the suggestion!
[13:04] <BlueEagle> omko: That was what caused those symptoms on my setup.
[13:05] <Pinchiukas> If I add an alias mail.mydomain.com to 127.0.0.1 and then try 'links mail.mydomain.com' the vhost should work?
[13:05] <omko> it could be the cable... my son has been pulling on the cable like crazy
[13:06] <bebe> BlueEagle,  can you please look at this http://pastebin.com/d73b08374
[13:06] <bebe> when i try to start the apache2 i got error
[13:06] <bebe> got any ideea ?
[13:07] <bingungaja> i tried to compile linux-uvc, but i can't find any trunk folder, anyone can help me out please
[13:08] <jimmie32> hey all
[13:08] <QuickFox_M> good evening (in here is evening) :D
[13:08] <jimmie32> its 12am here.
[13:09] <BlueEagle> bebe: I think #apache will give you more useful help with that problem.
[13:10] <bebe> noone answer me there :/
[13:10] <BlueEagle> bebe: Then you just need to be patient. Help doesn't neccessarily come right away.
[13:10] <bebe> ty
[13:12] <jimmie32> anyone knows how to install Apache/PHP/MySQL on Desktop Edition of Ubuntu?
[13:12] <_moro_bana_> hello, how do i make a compressed copy/backup of the whole partition?
[13:12] <erUSUL> !lamp | jimmie32
[13:13] <Python1320> lighttpd+php+mysql preferred :<
[13:13] <Petskull> Morning!
[13:13] <Petskull> anyone know how to add a volume that's not in my fstab?
[13:13] <Python1320> Petskull, wrong place to say monring. It's evening here
[13:14] <Petskull> heh- Evenin', other side of the world!
[13:14] <bobbob1016> Do I need/Should I have swap on an eeepc?
[13:14] <LjL> Petskull: temporarily or forever?
[13:15] <Petskull> forever
[13:15] <Petskull> a partition on my HD
[13:15] <BlueEagle> bebe: also it would help if you told people the error message you're getting.
[13:15] <Petskull> I eliminated it from fstab because it would crash on boot- now I want to add it again the right way
[13:16] <LjL> bobbob1016: "depends". if you have an SSD drive, swap will certainly shorten the lifetime of it, although it might possibly not even be measurable. if you have enough RAM, you might try and do without. if you need hibernation, you probably want a swap partition
[13:16] <monostone> how can i remove drives in the places sidebar of Nautilus, I dont want certain hard drives to appear, i removed the entries in fstab, but gnome still mounts them through this option nautilus provides
[13:16] <bobbob1016> LjL, I have the SSD, and 1gig ram, I thought not, but the installer warned me so I thought to ask
[13:17] <Petskull> Ljl?
[13:17] <LjL> Petskull: not difficult, "man fstab" and looking at the current fstab table should make it pretty clear...
[13:17] <Petskull> hmm...
[13:17] <Petskull> I'm concerned about the UUID part
[13:17] <Petskull> don't know what do do there
[13:18] <LjL> bobbob1016, 1Gb of RAM is enough to run quite a few programs without any need for swap. of course, swap is in theory *always* welcomed by the kernel, which can use it to cache files more efficiently. but concerns over SSD durability might, possibly, overshadow this.
[13:18] <LjL> !uuid | Petskull
[13:18] <Petskull> thanks!
[13:19] <bobbob1016> LjL, Thanks, now I just need to think of a name, I was thinking K9...  but not sure
[13:20] <LjL> bobbob1016: on an unrelated note, is yours a 90x and do you experience keys "bouncing" (i.e. keypress being registered twice sometimes)?
[13:20] <tabbu> hi, i like to compile my custom kernel the ubuntu way from the howto via 'fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd...', can i use like two compiling jobs like "make -j2" ?
[13:20] <bobbob1016> LjL, 901, with the 6cell, I just bought it yesterday
[13:21] <LjL> bobbob1016: same here (except i bought it the day before yesterday). i have this slight keyboard issue however
[13:21] <bobbob1016> So I don't know about the bouncing, I didn't notice anything yet
[13:21] <Petskull> LjL- any way to reset this short of a reboot?
[13:21] <LjL> bobbob1016, by the way, you might like to know there is an #ubuntu-eeepc channel
[13:21] <LjL> Petskull: reset what?
[13:22] <Petskull> my fstab
[13:22] <Harts> quelqu'un connait un programme un peu comme movie maker sous ubuntu ?
[13:22] <Petskull> I just modified it
[13:22] <LjL> Petskull: i don't get you. what do you mean "reset"? it's a text file
[13:22] <erUSUL> !fr | Harts
[13:22] <bobbob1016> LjL, Oh, I thought there would be one, but I'll try that next time, thanks
[13:22] <Harts> oui erusul
[13:22] <Petskull> nevermind- lemme try something
[13:22] <scrosson> I im having problems getting my Amilo LI 2727 wireless card to work with ubuntu
[13:22] <LjL> Petskull: it won't be reset to its previous state, *even if* you reboot...
[13:23] <erUSUL> scrosson: what wifi  chip ??
[13:23] <Petskull> I just mounted it
[13:23] <Petskull> it's early- nevermind
[13:23] <erUSUL> scrosson: lshw -C Network
[13:23] <bobbob1016> LjL, One last thing, doesn't the EEE move the partition or something, to extend the amount of writes?  And does it have a warning your drive is about to go thing, since it is predictable on a flash drive?
[13:23] <liza0> which gfx card offer best compatibilitywith linux ati or nvidia ?
[13:24] <Petskull> god I hate this gedit theme
[13:24] <scrosson> Atheros
[13:24] <LjL> bobbob1016: it doesn't move any partitions. it simply uses wear levelling like every SD drive should, but that's implemented at the hardware level. and no, no warnings (and it's not *that* predictable, either!)
[13:24] <erUSUL> bobbob1016: level wearing is usually done by a chip integrated on the flash drives that make them look like a block device by linux
[13:24] <LjL> liza0: Intel.
[13:24] <scrosson> AR242x
[13:24] <scrosson> i tried some of the guides on the forums but i didnt get far
[13:25] <erUSUL> bobbob1016: the quality of said leveling varies from flash drive to flash drive...
[13:25] <bobbob1016> But on a new EEE, that's a while away right?  The max drive writes?
[13:25] <monostone> How to remove device mount option in gnome? for example the 'places' sidebar of Nautilus. I can easily remove the fstab entry to avoid auto-mount on system boot, but i want to remove the option of mounting the device in gnome as well, thanks!
[13:25] <LjL> bobbob1016, i don't have any hard data to offer. but of course, unless Asus is incredibly stupid, yes, it should last quite a while under normal use...
[13:26] <blake--> hey im using intrepid but i apt-get xchat but it cant be found. and the universe repos are uncommented
[13:26] <bobbob1016> And it does it become unreadable, as in I lose my data, or just unwritable?
[13:26] <LjL> bobbob1016, it's not like HDs don't fail, either. actually, they can fail pretty often.
[13:26] <LjL> bobbob1016: you lose the data on the block that breaks
[13:26] <erUSUL> bobbob1016: yep
[13:27] <bobbob1016> LjL, Yeah, which is why I got the SSD vs the standard one.  I'll just have it sync, or not leave anything important on it.  I was confused since someone told me that it rotates space or something.  Thanks for the help.
[13:28] <Werdna> Hi, is there something wrong with this iptables statement? root@vps2:~# iptables -t filter -A INPUT --source 71.224.0.0/12 -j DROP
[13:29] <Werdna> It doesn't actually appear in the iptables -L list.
[13:29] <LjL> bobbob1016: it does "rotate". it's called wear levelling. it doesn't write to the same block twice. the specific algorithm is probably unpublished, but it does most likely have a linked list of blocks it rotates within
[13:29] <P3X-018> Is there a PDF viewer that can manage print services like printing several pages on 1 A4 paper, like adobe's pdf viewer can?
[13:30] <Frogzoo> Werdna: iptables -L -t filter
[13:30] <LjL> bobbob1016: as with any storage device, yes, you should keep backups - the fact that it's SSD doesn't spare you from keeping backups if you care about the data
[13:30] <clenex> !list
[13:30] <P3X-018> I can't seem to accomplish this through KPDF or Evince.
[13:30] <Werdna> Frogzoo: nothing.
[13:30] <LjL> P3X-018: actually that's part of CUPS itself i believe, so yes you can do it...
[13:30] <Werdna> root@vps2:~# iptables -v -t filter -A INPUT -s 71.224.0.0/12 -j DROP
[13:30] <Werdna> DROP  all opt -- in * out *  71.224.0.0/12  -> 0.0.0.0/0
[13:30] <P3X-018> LjL: How?
[13:31] <P3X-018> LjL : wait never mind.
[13:31] <Frogzoo> Werdna: iptables -Lv -t filter
[13:31] <Tokorona> I have a rather .. sillier question now.
[13:31] <LjL> P3X-018: KPDF: File / Print / Proprieties / General / Pages per sheet
[13:31] <Tokorona> If I'm a Samba user, I act as the corrosponding linux user, right?
[13:32] <Werdna> Frogzoo: root@vps2:~# iptables -Lv -t filter
[13:32] <Werdna> iptables: No chain/target/match by that name
[13:32] <neodreams> p/quit
[13:32] <scrosson> My Wireless device wont even turn on :(
[13:32] <LjL> Tokorona: i believe not necessarily, smb.conf might say something specific about what's shared and how
[13:32] <Tokorona> Oh. Okay.
[13:33] <Werdna> Frogzoo: weird, it worked just a second ago.
[13:33] <LjL> Tokorona: i guess you won't ever have *more* privileges than the corresponding linux user would, but you could have *fewer*
[13:33] <Tokorona> I'm just curious why I cna't seem to write to a folder the group I'm in has full access rights to.
[13:33] <Tokorona> And it's driving me a little batty.
[13:33] <LjL> Tokorona: look at smb.conf (or use whatever graphical interface is provided to configure samba)
[13:33] <TurboWolf> Hello!
[13:33] <Tokorona> I just.. finished that ._.
[13:33] <Frogzoo> Werdna: iptables -L -v
[13:33] <LjL> Tokorona: specifically, having "writable = no" would do that.
[13:34] <Werdna> Frogzoo: yeah, that's what I did, and it works now. Thanks.
[13:34] <Tokorona> Don't have that.
[13:34] <LjL> Tokorona: well, do you have "writable = yes"?
[13:34] <Tokorona> I have createmask = 0674 on it
[13:34] <Tokorona> Yep.
[13:34] <Frogzoo> Werdna: filter is the default table, so you don't need to specify
[13:34] <Werdna> yeah, I know.
[13:34] <LjL> Tokorona: well i'm not very sure how *group* access works with samba honestly
[13:34] <Tokorona> Ah.
[13:35] <Tokorona> Hmmm.
[13:36] <Tokorona> well, I suppose I could try to force access to the main user, but that sounds like a bad idea.
[13:37] <Tokorona> becuase the mask on the files is u+rw g+rwx o+r
[13:37] <Petskull> hey- is there a strong Exchange replacement for linux?
[13:37] <Tokorona> (It's my webserver directory)
[13:38] <DIFH-iceroot> Petskull: openexchange
[13:38] <Petskull> hmm...
[13:38] <Tokorona> Well, thanks for the help.
[13:39] <Tokorona> I'll go back to googling and beating it up until it gives me results I can parse.
[13:39] <antonys> nas
[13:39] <Petskull> I'm about to set up a small business with Exchange and Active Directory and I'm wondering and Free Software can do better
[13:40] <antonys> alguien sabe si ubuntu rula en acer aspire
[13:40] <Petskull> yes
[13:40] <Petskull> look the model number on google
[13:40] <TurboWolf> estoy en ubuntu en mi acer aspire 5930G
[13:41] <antonys> #winwdos
[13:41] <TurboWolf> Booo, I downoaded 8.10, now wifi works. But my xbox360 controller doesn't behave nicely anymore, the axis works as mouse and whenever I click a key, user logs out D:
[13:41] <Tokorona> The apparent answer is that it first connects as nobody.
[13:41] <Igramul> Hi, I am running Ubuntu 8.04.1 and I found out, that sysklogd closes its fifos (I'm using this for sshdfilter) when restarted via "/etc/init.d/sysklogd reload-or-restart". Is it save to change the cron job from "reload-or-restart" to "restart" (restart keeps the fifo working)?
[13:41] <Tokorona> Why? I wish I knew! But chowning it apparently fixes that.
[13:42] <TurboWolf> I have no idea about that,p Igramul.
[13:43] <ubuntu_> question, Does anyone know what ubuntu's default network driver stucture is?
[13:44] <ubuntu_> sorry if it's a noob question, but I gotta know.
[13:44] <TurboWolf> I didn't even understand what you asked for ;D
[13:44] <Igramul> !sshdfilter
[13:44] <ubuntu_> you know, like madwifi, or anything else.
[13:44] <stianiquniez> hello, someone here that could help me set up a ad-hoc network?
[13:44] <TurboWolf> you're talking to the biggest noob in the world :p
[13:45] <hanoi> hello
[13:45] <ubuntu_> oh.
[13:45] <piero> salve, come posso cambiare il nome del computer in modo da visualizzare xubuntu dopo la @ nel mio terminale?
[13:45] <hanoi> may anyone help me where i can found clamav ?!
[13:45] <ubuntu_> babelfish.
[13:45] <tommi_> hi there
[13:45] <hanoi> hi
[13:45] <ubuntu_> www.altavista.com -> babelfish
[13:46]  * Petskull pays stark attention for responses to stianiquniez's question
[13:46] <tommi_> i have a problem with terminals (xterm, rxvt, gnome-terminal and even tty) - as user i cannot enter or paste the 'a' and 's' letters
[13:46] <Petskull> how *do* you do that?
[13:46] <s0u][ight> how can i make amule start at every boot?
[13:46] <ubuntu_> do what?
[13:46] <tommi_> as root everything works fine
[13:46] <Petskull> set up an ad-hoc network in Ubuntu
[13:47] <Frogzoo> tommi_: you're using some wierd keyboard layout
[13:47] <tommi_> i am using the default 105 generic
[13:47] <ubuntu_> No idea.  I'm really new to ubuntu.  I normally use redhat, but I'm setting it up for internet with live CD.
[13:47] <TurboWolf> is redhat any good?
[13:48] <tommi_> (btw i'm on a eeepc, using ubuntueee which worked fine for a week)
[13:48] <TurboWolf> this is the first linux OS I ever used :o
[13:48] <tommi_> i checked keyboard shortcuts and keyboard layouts, everything looks fine
[13:48] <TurboWolf> oooh tommi_
[13:48] <ubuntu_> I wanted to know if there was any way I could make my newly found distro work like ubuntu as far as internet.
[13:48] <TurboWolf> that might be because eeepc is broken
[13:48] <tommi_> in other applications everything is fine
[13:49] <tommi_> TurboWolf: it works if i am root or if i use other applications
[13:49] <TurboWolf> My older eeepc got its ctrl key stuck
[13:49] <tommi_> for example i can enter in vim and type those two keys
[13:49] <tommi_> same for openoffice and even gnome-terminal config panel
[13:49] <tommi_> or even irssi, that i am using right now
[13:49] <ubuntu_> I don't have drivers that ubuntu comes with in backtrack, so I thought somebody could help with installing better drivers.
[13:50] <tommi_> ubuntu_: what drivers you need?
[13:50] <mps002> hey, I just tried to upgrade to Intrepid and it seems to have broken my installation. When I startup, everything goes fine, I get to the login screen, and after I login, I get the orange background, a working mouse, and nothing else
[13:50] <ubuntu_> found it on internet, but didn't realize that i didn't have the right drivers for it before I erased my distro.
[13:50] <ubuntu_> my wifi drivers.
[13:51] <ubuntu_> lemmi check what my built in wifi is using...
[13:52] <TurboWolf> ubuntu_, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[13:53] <tommi_> ah forgot to say that if i create another user the keyboard works great
[13:54] <mps002> guys (and girls), I really need help restoring my ubuntu, does anyone have an idea to help me get my lappy back to normal?
[13:54] <KEBA2> the curl manpage is so big, i dont find some things
[13:54] <KEBA2> how to download a ftp file?
[13:54] <tommi_> KEBA2: try hitting '/' and searching for the word
[13:54] <jrib> KEBA2: / lets you search.  /, then type what you want to search for, then enter.  Press 'n' and 'N' to cycle results
[13:54] <ubuntu_> intel corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG (wifi), OpenGEU ?.?? (Based on ubuntu)
[13:54] <tommi_> KEBA2: n to go to the next result
[13:54] <hz> exit
[13:54] <tommi_> yea like jrib said :)
[13:55] <ubuntu_> guys, help?
[13:55] <mps002> has anyone else tried to upgrade to Intrepid, or am I in the wrong channel?
[13:55] <jrib> mps002: #ubuntu+1
[13:55] <ikonia> ubuntu_: help with what
[13:55] <Irishmanluke> alright so automatically triggering a command when an sd card is automatically mounted when it is inserted?
[13:55] <ubuntu_> my wifi problem!
[13:55] <linny> mps002: #ubuntu+1
[13:56] <KEBA2> tommi_: und jrib: danke: ich sollte man man lesen
[13:56] <kushalsejwal> Greeting! Friend i have started programming in Linux, installed Geany IDE, now just wanted to know from you guys which is more preferred and good way to do programming via IDE or just plain GCC/ CC command in terminal?
[13:56] <ikonia> ubuntu_: what version of ubuntu do have, and what is the issue
[13:56] <ikonia> kushalsejwal: your choice
[13:56] <ubuntu_> OpenGEU ?.?? (ubuntu based)
[13:56] <jrib> Irishmanluke: udev rule probably
[13:56] <Tokorona> Annd my problem was for some reason it wiped the Samba user db
[13:56] <ikonia> ubuntu_: this is support for ubuntu only
[13:56] <Tokorona> So uh..
[13:56] <kushalsejwal>  ikonia: Still, okay what do you prefer? :D
[13:56] <ikonia> ubuntu_: not ubuntu based
[13:56] <Tokorona> SOrry to bother you all.
[13:56] <ikonia> kushalsejwal: what does it matter what I prefer, it's what you prefer
[13:56] <ubuntu_> UBUNTU BASED!!!
[13:57] <ikonia> ubuntu_: DOESN'T MATTER
[13:57] <kushalsejwal> ikonia: okay sir.
[13:57] <mps002> thanks
[13:57] <ubuntu_> Then Why the hell would it say that, and why would it have this tool built in?  It has APT, and that's all that matters!
[13:57] <ikonia> ubuntu_: no
[13:58] <Tokorona> To be very very blunt: apt-get is a debian wide thing.
[13:58] <ikonia> ubuntu_: this is a support channel for ubuntu only, not ubuntu based distros
[13:58] <ikonia> ubuntu_: thats what matters
[13:58] <Tokorona> Ubuntu just uses it as well.
[13:58] <jrib> ubuntu_: http://opengeu.intilinux.com/Contacts.html try #opengeu
[13:58] <Tokorona> (although I shouldn't be i nhere, frankly, I use.. fluxbuntu. So I'm making an offscreen dasssshh~)
[13:58] <ubuntu_> I just need to get the drivers on this thing and get them into my backtrack distro!  I need internet!
[13:59] <kushalsejwal> ikonia: One question, I have friends who use VIM to do programming, I find it really difficult as one has to learn all those VI commands and all. But I have read in several places that real programing geeks prefer VIM or Emacs?
[13:59] <ikonia> ubuntu_: then you need to ask the correct people
[13:59] <ompaul> ubuntu_, go ask the backtrack people
[13:59] <Myrtti> kushalsejwal: welcome to the never ending editor wars.
[13:59] <ikonia> kushalsejwal: does it matter what other people like/don't like or what "geeks" use, use what YOU want
[13:59] <jrib> kushalsejwal: it's up to you.  If you want to learn vim, install the 'vim' package and run the 'vimtutor' command
[13:59] <Myrtti> kushalsejwal: you pick whichever suits you best.
[13:59] <Aron__> While I install realplayer,synaptic returns error
[14:00] <jrib> Aron__: pastebin it
[14:00] <TurboWolf> NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-177.80-pkg2.run
[14:00] <TurboWolf> I doubleclick bud won't open
[14:00] <TurboWolf> WHYYYYYYYY
[14:00] <Aron__> exim4-config:post-installation script return 1
[14:00] <jrib> !nvidia > TurboWolf
[14:00] <ikonia> TurboWolf: why do you want to use those drivers
[14:00] <kushalsejwal> Fine guys, I will not indulge in this Editor war and would just concentrate on learning programming language :)
[14:00] <ikonia> TurboWolf: what's wrong with the ubuntu packaged versions
[14:00] <jrib> Aron__: run it in a shell
[14:00] <TurboWolf> dunno, maybe nvidia official drivers would get moar performance
[14:00] <Aron__> how to do it?
[14:01] <ikonia> TurboWolf: they won't
[14:01] <ikonia> TurboWolf: the ubuntu packaged ones ARE nvidia offical ones
[14:01] <inik> ﻿TurboWolf: you need to start it this way - ﻿./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-177.80-pkg2.run
[14:01] <jrib> Aron__: sudo apt-get install PACKAGE
[14:01] <TurboWolf> no point to open then :<
[14:01] <TurboWolf> thx anyway
[14:01] <heret|c> actually. its "sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-177.80-pkg2.run
[14:01] <Jampiter> Hi
[14:02] <fxhp> I was trying to create a network bridge for vbox.  Now I lost networking on host,  What is the easiest way to get rid of the bridging?
[14:02] <heret|c> the ./ method wont work if it's not chmod +x,
[14:02] <TurboWolf> I guess wine does get performance down anyway
[14:02] <ikonia> fxhp: remove the bridge interface
[14:02] <Aron__> while,my realplayer package is downloaded from the realplayer official site,in the ubuntu source there is no this package
[14:02] <newbe1> terminal command for applications  please
[14:02] <jrib> heret|c: the sh method won't work if it's not a shell script dash understands ;)
[14:02] <Speppa> buondì
[14:02] <fxhp> ﻿ikonia: I removed it from interfaces... it still shows up in ifconfig
[14:02] <Jampiter> I have run emerald --replace in the terminal, but when I close the terminal emerald closes and my window decorations disappear.. How can I stop this happening?
[14:02] <jrib> newbe1: I don't understand your question.  Can you rephrase it?
[14:03] <ikonia> fxhp remove it as an interface
[14:03] <jrib> Jampiter: use alt-f2 to run it?
[14:03] <heret|c> jrib, the sh method is the method suggested by nvidia anyways.
[14:03] <ikonia> fxhp: it probably still has your main ip bound to it
[14:03] <ikonia> fxhp: I assume your using a tap
[14:03] <Jampiter> I'll give that a go jrib
[14:03] <fxhp> how do I remove it as an interface?
[14:03] <ikonia> fxhp: are you using a tap
[14:03] <newbe1> want command for applications so i can  download for terminal
[14:03] <newbe1> in
[14:03] <Jampiter> Aha! Thanks jrib :D
[14:03] <ikonia> !apt > newbe1
[14:04] <coolpro> hey
[14:04] <fxhp> ikonia: No I attempted to use the vbox method...
[14:04] <ikonia> fxhp: no idea within vbox
[14:04] <jrib> heret|c: point
[14:04] <jrib> !pm | Aron__
[14:04] <coolpro> are there any friendly WEB-developers? :)
[14:04] <ikonia> coolpro: what do you mean
[14:04] <fxhp> ﻿ikonia: How would you remove it from tap?
[14:05] <ikonia> fxhp: use tunctl
[14:05] <jrib> Aron__: you know you don't need realplayer?  You can just use something like mplayer and w32codecs
[14:05] <coolpro> I nees help about Apache, mod_rewrite
[14:05] <newbe1> want wine dowwnload in terminal   command
[14:05] <jrib> coolpro: installing it or configuring it?
[14:05] <ikonia> coolpro: #apache may be solid for mod_Rewrite questions, or here for how to set it up
[14:05] <Aron__> but my parents like that one and they want me to help
[14:05] <legend2440> Jampiter: http://openswitch.org/2008/04/28/how-to-enable-emerald-in-hardy-heron-804/
[14:05] <jrib> newbe1: sudo apt-get install wine
[14:06] <jrib> !wine > newbe1
[14:06] <newbe1> thanks
[14:06] <alarm> hey , i got ubuntu for 64bit cpu , and i am searching for the firefox java plugin package , but cannot find it
[14:06] <jrib> !realplayer > Aron__
[14:06] <alarm> i got firefox ver 3
[14:06] <alarm> which package should it be ? sun-java5(or6)-plugin
[14:06] <alarm> but cannot find something similar to this
[14:06] <Aron__> no,not for that one....
[14:07] <jrib> alarm: there isn't one from sun.  Use one of the open java ones
[14:07] <Ean> Hi all! I have a problem with "ctrl+alt+F1-F8". I can't use them FROM X, but to and between the non graph... Google didn't help me on this one... :( The solutions there wont work...
[14:07] <jrib> Aron__: then what do you want exactly?
[14:07] <Aron__> I just want to know how to install it
[14:07] <jrib> !who | Aron__
[14:07] <Xteven> hi, does anyone know if the evolution in intrepid will be able to synch 2-way to/from google calendar ?
[14:07] <Jampiter> Thanks legend2440
[14:07] <alarm> sure ? cause i was using on debian a few months ago the java6 plugin for firefox2
[14:07] <jrib> Aron__: did you read the link ubottu gave you?  It tells you how to install it
[14:07] <jrib> alarm: not on amd64 you weren't :)
[14:08] <andresmh> so how do you find out where an app has been installed?
[14:08] <alarm> jrgp,  on that on u are right, it was on 32bit
[14:08] <alarm> so, solution ?
[14:08] <andresmh> i installed adobe air from a .bin and i have no idea where it was put
[14:08] <heret|c> updatedb&&locate air
[14:08] <ikonia> andresmh: contact adobe or read the adobe website
[14:08] <jrib> alarm: your two options are to install 32bit firefox or to install an open one like gcjwebplugin
[14:08] <ikonia> andresmh: there should also be a "README" file where it unpacks
[14:09] <jrib> !flash64 > alarm
[14:09] <andresmh> ikonia: i just executed the .bin and there was no README
[14:09] <Irishmanluke> alright jrib, from what I take it I have to create a file in /etc/udev/rules.d which starts with 80?
[14:09] <Aron__> jrib: that one tells about installing realplayer10
[14:09] <jrib> Aron__: yes, so what do you want to install exactly?
[14:09] <alarm> ok, thanks for the link :)
[14:09] <ikonia> andresmh: it unpacks
[14:09] <andresmh> yeah, but where ikonia ?
[14:10] <ikonia> andresmh: normally in the pwd
[14:10] <ikonia> andresmh: or tmp
[14:10] <Aron__> jrib:but this time I am using the official deb package from realnetworks,whil I am installing it,something wrong happens
[14:10] <jrib> Irishmanluke: no idea on the details.  Google "writing udev rules", there are some good guides
[14:10] <bzrk> andresmh: locate air
[14:10] <jrib> Aron__: what happens exactly? and how are you installing it?
[14:10] <bzrk> andresmh: or use find
[14:11] <andresmh> air is such a common string, it returns tons of locations, bzrk
[14:11] <TurboWolf> is it just me or flash plugin makes everything crash on ubuntu?
[14:11] <andresmh> this is like a blackbox
[14:11] <ikonia> TurboWolf: it's just you
[14:11] <Jampiter> Is there anywhere where I can get the Oxygen widget theme for GTK?
[14:12] <ikonia> Jampiter: gnome-look.org ?
[14:12] <Jampiter> Found it :) Thanks anyway ikonia :)
[14:13] <saykou> any haved installed teamspeak on linux
[14:13] <saykou> ?
[14:13] <ikonia> saykou: on occasion
[14:13] <saykou> how do i run setup.sh
[14:13] <ikonia> saykou: ./setup.sh
[14:14] <Aron__> jrib: just click the deb package and input the password,when it nearly ended the process,it shows an error
[14:14] <saykou> oh yeah sry real rookie mistake i have done this but i didnt remember thanks ikonia
[14:14] <coolpro> if there are ny friendly web-developer knowing mod_rewrite, write me in private. Thanks.
[14:14] <ikonia> coolpro: I've suggested where you can get support
[14:14] <jrib> Aron__: do it in a terminal.  cd to the directory the .deb is in.  Then run 'sudo dpkg -i name_of_package.deb'.  Then pastebin the full output
[14:14] <ikonia> coolpro: #apache for mod_rewrite info, here for setup/ubuntu-install help
[14:15] <Aron__> ok
[14:15] <ikonia> coolpro: do you understand ?
[14:15] <amnay_> salut
[14:15] <ikonia> amnay_: hello
[14:15] <amnay_> hello
[14:15] <Aron__> jrib: should I remove the broken packages installed by dependences?
[14:15] <ikonia> coolpro: do you understand ?
[14:15] <bzrk> ikonia: wtf is wrong with you? he asked nicely, you don't have to answer
[14:15] <ikonia> bzrk: it's offtopic and your language is not needed
[14:16] <fxhp> ﻿ikonia: How do you bring a nic or bridge from 'UP' to 'DOWN'
[14:16] <Ean> Hi all! I have a problem with "ctrl+alt+F1-F8". I can't use them FROM X, but to and between the non graph... Google didn't help me on this one... :( The solutions there wont work... please help me...
[14:16] <ikonia> fxhp: a nic, ifconfig $device up/down
[14:16] <bzrk> ikonia: your attitude isnt needed either
[14:16] <ikonia> bzrk: I'm directing him to the correct channel
[14:16] <ompaul> bzil, leave it alone - this is a warning
[14:16] <Myrtti> bzrk, ikonia; please cool off both of you - this is not needed.
[14:17] <bzrk> ompaul: kk, i still find his tone uncalled for but i'll let it rest
[14:17] <ompaul> bzil, happy tab complete day
[14:17] <bzrk> :)
[14:17] <_moro_bana_> how do i get to see all the volumes that are mounted? using the terminal
[14:17] <Myrtti> ompaul: lol
[14:17] <Aron__> jrib: should I remove the broken packages installed by dependences?
[14:17] <jrib> _moro_bana_: mount
[14:17] <fxhp> ﻿ikonia: w00t.  Thanks man
[14:17] <ikonia> fxhp: no problem
[14:17] <jrib> Aron__: nope.  You should pastebin the output first so I see what you are seeing
[14:18] <InsomniaCity> Hi! On Ubuntu 8.04... I have ethernet configured to dhcp, but when I plug it in, it doesn't get an IP without me switching from dhcp to static and back again
[14:18] <_moro_bana_> jrib: any other way, its not showing one of the hdd?
[14:18] <ikonia> iSign: dhcp runs at boot time
[14:18] <ikonia> oops
[14:18] <InsomniaCity> ok
[14:18] <InsomniaCity> is there is a way to get it to do it when I plug it in?
[14:18] <jrib> _moro_bana_: then it's not mounted.  What do you actually want to do?
[14:18] <ikonia> InsomniaCity: dhcp runs at boot time, you switching static/dhcp re-reuns it
[14:18] <InsomniaCity> like windows does :P
[14:18] <ikonia> InsomniaCity: it should be running as a daemon
[14:18] <fxhp> ﻿ikonia:  Now I just need to figure out how to create a bridge successfully without breaking my network on host.  At least I've learned how to correct my issues.
[14:18] <ikonia> InsomniaCity: check it's running
[14:18] <leachim6> when will intrepid go gold ?
[14:19] <InsomniaCity> dhclient is running
[14:19] <ikonia> leachim6: do you mean when will it be released ?
[14:19] <leachim6> nope
[14:19] <leachim6> I mean the feature freeze
[14:19] <InsomniaCity> once for eth0, once for wlan0
[14:19] <ikonia> leachim6: already done
[14:19] <fxhp> Does anyone have a list of new ubuntu 8.10 feature updates?
[14:19] <leachim6> ok, so we're close
[14:19] <_moro_bana_> jrib: i can see it from "my computer", i wanna see the mount point, want to make a clone on the hdd
[14:19] <leachim6> good
[14:19] <ikonia> InsomniaCity: thats odd, it should pickup when you plug it in
[14:19] <InsomniaCity> ikonia: indeed
[14:19] <ikonia> InsomniaCity: when you plug it in, does the syslog show anything ?
[14:20] <InsomniaCity> lets try
[14:20] <InsomniaCity> you mean messages?
[14:20] <InsomniaCity> or something else?
[14:20] <ikonia> InsomniaCity: try waiting 2 minutes (I think thats teh default refresh time)
[14:20] <ikonia> InsomniaCity: /var/log/syslog
[14:20] <jrib> _moro_bana_: that doesn't mean it's mounted.  Maybe you want the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' instead
[14:20] <InsomniaCity> ok
[14:20] <Hobokamera> i have a noob question i was hoping someone could help me with. How do i log into root? i've tried -su and it asks for a password but i was never given an option to set a root password during my install =/
[14:20] <tehlrov> Can anyone here help me with various headphone/mic problems?
[14:20] <_moro_bana_> jrib: yes exactly, i forgot that, thanks
[14:20] <tehlrov> hobokamera: it's the same as your user password
[14:20] <ikonia> Hobokamera: you shouldn't login as root
[14:20] <InsomniaCity> ikonia: eth0 link up..
[14:21] <ikonia> Hobokamera: sudo is setup for "root" stuff
[14:21] <jrib> !root > Hobokamera
[14:21] <Aron__> $ sudo dpkg -i RealPlayer11GOLD.deb
[14:21] <Aron__> (Reading database ... 129457 files and directories currently installed.)
[14:21] <Aron__> Preparing to replace realplay 11.0.1.1056 (using RealPlayer11GOLD.deb) ...
[14:21] <Aron__> Unpacking replacement realplay ...
[14:21] <Aron__> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of realplay:
[14:21] <FloodBot3> Aron__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:21] <Aron__>  realplay depends on lsb (>= 3.1); however:
[14:21] <ikonia> InsomniaCity: ok, so it detects a cable ok and brings it up
[14:21] <InsomniaCity> ikonia: I'll wait 120 and see what happens
[14:21] <ikonia> InsomniaCity: I "think" it's 120
[14:21] <ikonia> InsomniaCity: what desktop are you using ?
[14:21] <leachim6> by the way, fdisk -l doesn't need sudo
[14:22] <jrib> leachim6: really?
[14:22] <InsomniaCity> ikonia: gnome
[14:22] <leachim6> yup
[14:22] <ikonia> leachim6: it does
[14:22] <jrib> leachim6: I get no output without sudo
[14:22] <InsomniaCity> ikonia: and it has an IP now, but I don't think thats a fair test
[14:22] <Hobokamera> thank you for your help =)
[14:22] <leachim6> really ?
[14:22] <InsomniaCity> as I just forced it about 10 minutes ago
[14:22] <leachim6> then my system is very insecure!
[14:22] <leachim6> what would cause me to get output without sudo ?
[14:22] <ikonia> leachim6: permissions on device files ?
[14:23] <tehlrov> Can anyone here help me out with various sound issues?
[14:23] <leachim6> tehlrov, shoot
[14:23] <ikonia> InsomniaCity: clear the leases down and try it agan
[14:23] <ikonia> again
[14:23] <bpat1182> I'm trying to install 8.10 on my AMD 64 desktop, and when it finishes, (1) it spits out the CD but then immediately pulls it back in and locks the drive so I have to manually retrieve it (i.e. with a paperclip) and (2) it boots up to a point where it says "GRUB _" and the underscore blinks.... how can I fix it?
[14:23] <Aron__> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/56635/
[14:23] <ikonia> !intrepid > bpat1182
[14:23] <InsomniaCity> ikonia: how do I clear leases?
[14:23] <leachim6> !intrepid > leachim6
[14:23] <ikonia> InsomniaCity: in your dhcp.conf you'll find where the lease file is, just delete the contents
[14:23] <bpat1182> ikonia, happens with 8.04 as well
[14:23] <ikonia> InsomniaCity: I've not got an ubuntu box to hand to check myself
[14:23] <legend2440> fxhp: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/intrepid/beta#New%20Features%20since%20Ubuntu%208.04
[14:24] <doskir> how do i configure my nvidia card for multiple monitors ?
[14:24] <jrib> Aron__: You need to satisfy dependencies.  Try 'sudo apt-get install lsb'
[14:24] <ompaul> InsomniaCity, sudo -K and they die
[14:24] <tehlrov> leachim6: my front mic is apparently broken: when I un-mute the front mic I get terrible hissing in my headphones, and capture doesn't work
[14:24] <doskir> the restricted driver is already installed
[14:24] <InsomniaCity> ompaul: sudo kills dhcp leases? :O
[14:24] <tehlrov> leachim6: I'm using an Intel HDA Audio controller, if that helps
[14:24] <InsomniaCity> that'd surprise me
[14:24] <InsomniaCity> ikonia: on it
[14:24] <leachim6> eww....me too
[14:24] <leachim6> tehlrov, I assume this is a laptop ?
[14:24] <ompaul> InsomniaCity, sorry I thought it was sudo question sorry
[14:25] <tehlrov> leachim6: no, this is a desktop with front headphone/mic ports; intel p35/ICH9R chipsets.  Playback through headphones works fine, but the mic is broken
[14:25] <leachim6> ohh wait...
[14:25] <Aron__> jrib: then returns this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/56638/
[14:25] <ikonia> InsomniaCity: sorry, I missed which desktop you said you where using
[14:25] <leachim6> they're built-into the monitor ?
[14:25] <perlsyntax> has anyone use the cairo-dock before?
[14:25] <InsomniaCity> ikonia: gnome
[14:25] <tehlrov> leachim6: no, they're audio ports connected to headers on the motherboard
[14:26] <InsomniaCity> ikonia: do you mean dhclient.conf?
[14:26] <perlsyntax> mmmm
[14:26] <jrib> Aron__: those issues are unrelated to realplayer.  You need to fix them first.  Any idea why you are getting those errors?
[14:26] <ikonia> InsomniaCity: ok, just wanted to know so I could understand which network controller was built into your desktop
[14:26] <tehlrov> they have separate volume controls in alsamixer
[14:26] <ikonia> InsomniaCity: yes, thats right
[14:26] <perlsyntax> ?
[14:26] <leachim6> without knowing the exact computer you have there is no telling...
[14:26] <kulight> any one know on what port the update manager works ?
[14:26] <tehlrov> It's a Gigabyte P35-DS3R motherboard, if that helps
[14:26] <leachim6> I have the intel HDA audio controller too...I ended up booting windows for skype...
[14:27] <leachim6> I could never get it to work
[14:27] <InsomniaCity> ikonia: my dhclient.conf doesn't specify a lease dir
[14:27] <InsomniaCity> or file
[14:27] <tehlrov> it's not just skype
[14:27] <leachim6> I hope intrepid will fix it
[14:27] <tehlrov> my entire microphone system is broken
[14:27] <leachim6> I know, but that's all I use the mic for
[14:27] <ikonia> InsomniaCity: ugh, let me see if I can google it
[14:27] <ikonia> InsomniaCity: sorry, not got an ubuntu box to check
[14:27] <ompaul> kulight, either http or ftp requests
[14:27] <tehlrov> whenever I unmute capture it causes terrible hissing in the audio out ports
[14:27] <InsomniaCity> ikonia: s'allright, any help appreciated
[14:27] <ompaul> kulight, depending on what it can do
[14:27] <jrib> Aron__: specifically, lines 12-24
[14:27] <leachim6> tehlrov, sounds like you've got the wrong driver
[14:27] <victor__> hola tengo un problema con la ñ
[14:27] <Aron__> jrib:while my first time attempting to install realplayer,it tells me that these packages are needed by realplayer11,and downloaded them automaticly.
[14:27] <tehlrov> leachim6: How would I check?
[14:28] <leachim6> hmm...
[14:28] <leachim6> hold on a sec
[14:28] <leachim6> cat /proc/asound/cards
[14:28] <OsBoNe_Intrepid> hi everyone
[14:28] <jrib> Aron__: can you try 'sudo apt-get purge exim4-config'.  Pastebin if it asks you to do something you are not sure about
[14:29] <tehlrov>  0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
[14:29] <tehlrov>                       HDA Intel at 0xf8100000 irq 22
[14:29] <leachim6> that's the right driver...
[14:29] <leachim6> I really have no idea sorry, but there are tons of people here much more knowledgeable ...
[14:29] <tehlrov> alright; thanks for trying, mate
[14:29] <OsBoNe_Intrepid> Does deleting some .desktop in "/usr/share/xsessions" is enough to remove the entry from the gdm sessions menu ???
[14:30] <Aron__> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/56640/
[14:30] <leachim6> OsBoNe_Intrepid, why not delete the actual program that the session provides if you don't want to see it ?
[14:30] <tehlrov> Can anyone here help me troubleshoot front microphone problems on an Intel HDA motherboard?
[14:30] <andresmh> any idea what's wrong with this command?  deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free
[14:30] <unb> Anyone have problems to run or install the Hardy Heron in a Acer Aspire 5051 ?
[14:30] <andresmh> i get deb: command not found
[14:31] <leachim6> if I download the intrepid beta, can I upgrade to the official release later ?
[14:31] <andresmh> but i think i remember using deb before
[14:31] <jrib> Aron__: now install lsb again with apt-get
[14:31] <tehlrov> andresmh: you're not supposed to run that, you're supposed to put it in Synaptic's repository index
[14:31] <leachim6> adante, it's dpkg
[14:31] <jrib> leachim6: #ubuntu+1 for help with intrepid
[14:31] <leachim6> thanks
[14:31] <Aron__> jrib: sudo apt-get install lsb,is that right?
[14:31] <OsBoNe_Intrepid> beacause in compilated it myself (fluxbox) and after e "make unistall" the entry is still here
[14:31] <andresmh> ah! thnaks tehlrov
[14:32] <jrib> Aron__: yep
[14:32] <tehlrov> No problem, mate.
[14:32] <tehlrov> Can anyone here help me troubleshoot front microphone problems on an Intel HDA motherboard?
[14:32] <Raphi974> Hi every1
[14:32] <dustman> hi
[14:33] <dustman> how to lock screen from commands line?
[14:33] <fxhp> ?
[14:33] <andresmh> tehlrov: now, how do I put something in Synaptics repo index?
[14:33] <ikonia> andresmh: is it your repo ?
[14:33] <unb> I had problems to run in "live mode" or install
[14:34] <Aron__> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/56641/
[14:34] <unb> what setting i need to use?
[14:34] <unb> Anyone have problems to run or install the Hardy Heron in a Acer Aspire 5051 ?
[14:34] <tehlrov> andresmh: Open synaptic, go to settings-->repositories, the third-party software tab, click add and paste in that deb line from earlier
[14:34] <ikonia> unb: what sort of problem
[14:34] <jrib> Aron__: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:34] <fxhp> ﻿dustman: You mean like http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204681
[14:34] <cpu_temp> hi. How do I increase max open files number? I tried "* hard nofile 65500" in limits.conf and uncommented pam_limits.so in /etc/pam.d/login
[14:34] <tehlrov> then reload your package information
[14:35] <unb> ikonia: doesnt boot
[14:35] <ikonia> unb can you expand on that please
[14:35] <unb> ikonia: after the initial screen (what language...)
[14:35] <jrib> Aron__: never mind, I see what we missed.  purge exim4-config again
[14:35] <Aron__> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/56643/
[14:35] <Aron__> ooh
[14:35] <ikonia> unb: what happens
[14:35] <unb> the GUI doesn work
[14:36] <ikonia> cpu_temp: where is limits.conf
[14:36] <tehlrov> Can anyone here help me troubleshoot front microphone problems on an Intel HDA motherboard?
[14:36] <unb> I fall in a shell only environment
[14:36] <ikonia> unb: I need more than "doesn't work"
[14:36] <ikonia> unb: ahh
[14:36] <ikonia> unb: what is the prompt on the shell
[14:36] <pbn> Hello, how can I (re)configure the supported locales on Ubuntu 8.04 ?
[14:36] <ikonia> cpu_temp: I would have expected you to set that in sysctl.conf
[14:36] <Aron__> jrib: done
[14:36] <unb> iko: The prompt shows some commands like cp, ls...
[14:36] <cpu_temp> ikonia:  /etc/security/limits.conf
[14:37] <ikonia> cpu_temp: I appriciate it's obvious, but you did reboot after that change ?
[14:37] <jrib> Aron__: sudo mv /var/lib/exim4 ~/backup_of_var_lib_exim4
[14:37] <unb> I tried to turn off some settings like APIC
[14:37] <unb> bust still have problems
[14:37] <Aron__> jrib: done
[14:38] <jrib> Aron__: now try installing lsb again
[14:38] <ikonia> unb: what does the prompt say
[14:38] <cpu_temp> ikonia: cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max gives 65535 but "ulimit -n" 1024
[14:38] <ikonia> unb: as in "busybox >" something like that ?
[14:38] <ikonia> cpu_temp: Hmmm I didn't expect that change to be dynamic, you've surprised me with that
[14:38] <unb> iko: only a empty prompt with a lsit of commands in the top
[14:39] <ikonia> unb: have you run a check on the cd ?
[14:39] <unb> iko: yes
[14:39] <ikonia> unb: what did it say
[14:39] <cpu_temp> ikonia: yes, I did reboot
[14:39] <ikonia> cpu_temp: ahh so the change would have been picked up on the reboot - not dynamic
[14:39] <unb> ikonia: I have installed using the smae Cd in a desktop without problems
[14:39] <ikonia> cpu_temp: thats better
[14:40] <ikonia> unb: looks like some bit of hardware needs a specical parameter then
[14:40] <Aron__> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/56644/
[14:40] <unb> iko: Maybe you have any idea about what is this parameter?
[14:40] <cpu_temp> ikonia: I also tryed "sudo sysctl -p /etc/sysctl.conf" but ulimit -n is still 1024
[14:40] <ikonia> unb: no idea what hardware is in your laptop
[14:41] <ikonia> cpu_temp: what happens if you set ulimit manually ?
[14:41] <jrib> Aron__: that's weird.  I wonder what is supposed to create the mail user
[14:41] <Pretto> who knows if there is an API for Ubuntu Manpages?
[14:41] <Aron__> jrib: but what should I do now?
[14:42] <Pretto> or a python binding
[14:42] <cpu_temp> ikonia: "ulimit -n 65500" gives "-bash: ulimit: open files: cannot modify limit: Operation not permitted"
[14:42] <ikonia> cpu_temp: looks like a bug then
[14:42] <ikonia> cpu_temp: thats most odd
[14:42] <elhoir> hello, i want to split my /home in another partition... what is the minimum partition size for / ?
[14:42] <jrib> Aron__: pastebin /var/lib/dpkg/info/exim4-config.postinst
[14:42] <ikonia> cpu_temp: more so as proc shows your changes in place
[14:42] <cpu_temp> ikonia: yes. and it`s a server kernel, so... would not expect that
[14:43] <ikonia> cpu_temp: agreeed
[14:43] <jrib> Anyone know what package should be creating the mail user with regards to the errors configuring exim4-config on http://paste.ubuntu.com/56644/ ?
[14:43] <unb> ikonia: The model is http://global.acer.com/products/notebook/as5100.htm
[14:43] <cpu_temp> ikonia: will file a bug report. Tnx for all.
[14:43] <skit> servus
[14:43] <ikonia> cpu_temp: seems an important one to fix
[14:43] <jrib> Aron__: to confirm, what does 'getent passwd mail' return?
[14:43] <peter_> Could someone please help me revert to an earlier version of ALSA? This: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=859712 doesn't work for me. Thanks
[14:44] <tommi_> i cannot use the 'a' and 's' keys in terminal applications (gnome-terminal, xterm, rxvt). they work in other programs (i.e. openoffice, vim and irssi i'm using right now) and they work if i'm root or if i use a newly created user. what could be the problem? keyboard layout is ok and i have no shortcuts on those keys
[14:47] <Aron__> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/56647/
[14:47] <jrib> Aron__: to confirm, what does 'getent passwd mail' return?
[14:48] <Aron__> jrib: nothing
[14:49] <jrib> Can someone on a default install please run 'getent passwd mail' and tell me the output?  Thanks
[14:49] <dtolj> I am using Nautilus to connect to my Network share and nautilus says: Coudn't display "network:///" nautilus cannot handle network locations
[14:50] <dtolj> Using nautilus 2.22.5.1
[14:51] <jrib> dtolj: apt-cache policy gvfs.  What version do you have installed?
[14:51] <rraj_be> [ ttyACM1<Info>: Speed 460800; init "ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0" ]  could any one tell me what is this line mean
[14:51] <tommi_> could that be related to modem?
[14:51] <Aron__> jrib: it returns nothing
[14:52] <fkueblbeck> i've got some (very beginner-y) questions about ubuntu. could someone help me?
[14:52] <jrib> Aron__: got it.  I'm looking into what is supposed to create the mail user
[14:52] <monostone> How to remove device mount option in gnome? for example the 'places' sidebar of Nautilus. I can easily remove the fstab entry to avoid auto-mount on system boot, but i want to remove the option of mounting the device in gnome as well, thanks!
[14:52] <tommi_> fkueblbeck: i can't grant help for sure but just shoot away ;)
[14:52] <dtolj> jrib: GVFS 0.2.5
[14:53] <Aron__> jrib: what to do next?
[14:53] <alpsy> hi does anyone know how to get the logitech g5 mouse working properly with all buttons?
[14:53] <scientus> whats foing to be the codename for 9.04, J
[14:53] <jrib> dtolj: smb:/// work?  There's bug 185756 but it's fix-released and network:/// works for me
[14:53] <homy> hello!
[14:53] <jrib> bug #185756
[14:54] <homy> how can I convert a .ogg video to a flash video?
[14:54] <rraj_be> yes tommi_ . .  . .i want to increse the speed of that dialup[ connection. .  .. could i increse the baud rate for that ?
[14:54] <scientus> !offtopic
[14:54] <dulakian> homy: mencode can do that
[14:54] <jrib> !jaunty > scientus
[14:54] <homy> dulakian: how do I do that with mencode?
[14:54] <homy> I can't find mencode in Applications->Sound and Video?
[14:55] <dulakian> homy: install mencode, read the docs
[14:55] <h4wk0> !package quota
[14:55] <dulakian> homy: google for mencode convert ogg, plenty of info
[14:55] <tommi_> rraj_be: you can try but i don't think you'll get faster speed
[14:55] <Aron__> jrib: what to do next?
[14:55] <rraj_be> :(
[14:55] <rraj_be> i want to increse my dialup connection speed
[14:55] <dtolj> jrib: no protocol works even ftp I am using Xubuntu with nautilus
[14:55] <dulakian> homy: you have to install it
[14:56] <rraj_be> i am getting about 3 Kbps download speed
[14:56] <rraj_be> i am using my sony erricsson mobile as modem and GPRS connection for internet
[14:56] <jrib> dtolj: hmm.  Can you load gnome to troubleshoot?
[14:56] <rraj_be> really feed up with that nasty speed of downloads tommi_
[14:56] <rraj_be> any help to improve the speed tommi_
[14:56] <alpsy> does anyone know how to get the logitech g5 mouse working properly with all buttons?
[14:56] <jrib> Aron__: be patient.  I'm looking into it
[14:57] <Aron__> ok,thanks
[14:57] <guest123> I just installed Ubuntu on a friends' laptop, and the fan just keeps going al the time
[14:57] <jrib> alpsy: yes and no.  Yes, you can use evdev.  No I can't point you at a great resource for setting it up.  Basically, you use evdev to get all the buttons seen.  Then you configure them with xbindkeys or imwheel.  I can give you my xorg.conf if you want
[14:57] <guest123> it's really loud and annoying, is there a quick fix I can do to keep the fan noise down?
[14:57] <docko> histo, can anyone tell me how can i change language on ubuntu server 8.04?
[14:58] <guest123> like, if there's a cfig file that sets the cpu settings, or the fan settings
[14:58] <dtolj> jrib: no that sound like an overkill i would have to instal gnome to fix nautilus
[14:58] <guest123> or if maybe there's an app I can install that monitors the settings, and alows me to turn it on and off as needed?
[14:58] <tommi_> rraj_be: it could depend on many things you live in a rural place with old telephone lines?
[14:58] <alpsy> jrgp: ah okay, would be nice if you gave me your xorg.conf as I've never changed anything there and don't know much about it
[14:58] <rraj_be> yes . . . .i am using it from mobile phone and not on landline tommi_
[14:59] <diskin_> guest123, there should be cpu driver installed for the laptop model
[14:59] <dulakian> alpsy be careful, just copy and paste settings for the mouse into yours, you can mess up your X so you can't load it if you copy the wrong stuff
[14:59] <diskin_> guest123, for example, I have powernow_k8 on my turion-based laptop
[14:59] <guest123> diskin_, where would I look for that, and how can I use the driver to change the fan settings?
[15:00] <diskin_> guest123, lsmod|grep cpu first
[15:00] <alpsy> sorry, my last message was meant for jrib not jrgp :/
[15:00] <andresmh> where do I find out what version of ALSA driver i have?
[15:00] <tommi_> i used to connect from mobile
[15:00] <andresmh> my mic is not working on my thinkpad x300
[15:00] <itai> whats the command for copying files in linux?
[15:00] <tommi_> what you can do is check where in your house you can get more connection
[15:00] <tommi_> do some tests, room by room
[15:00] <jrib> alpsy: alright, well first make sure you backup your current xorg.conf and you're comfortable recovering with no X.  Do you know how to mess around with ctrl-alt-f1 and manipulate files?
[15:01] <guest123> diskin_, ok, there's 5 results, shall I pastebin them?
[15:01] <jrib> itai: cp
[15:01] <dulakian> itai: cp file newfile
[15:01] <jrib> !cli > itai
[15:01] <itai> jrib, thanks
[15:01] <diskin_> guest123, yes
[15:01] <alpsy> jrib: yes, I comfortable with that, just haven't got much experience with customizing x
[15:01] <guest123> diskin_,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/56652/
[15:02] <andresmh> how do I find out what sound card I have?
[15:02] <tommi_> i cannot use the 'a' and 's' keys in terminal applications (gnome-terminal, xterm, rxvt). they work in other programs (i.e. openoffice, vim and irssi i'm using right now) and they work if i'm root or if i use a newly created user. what could be the problem? keyboard layout is ok and i have no shortcuts on those keys
[15:02] <dulakian> andresmh: lspci should show it
[15:02] <amanu> im getting this error "You have 57 broken packages on your system! Use the "Broken" filter to locate them"when i start synaptic package manager
[15:02] <diskin_> guest123, I see no cpu driver there. what is the make of laptop?
[15:03] <guest123> Compaq Presario 3000
[15:03] <amanu> andresmh:open trminal and type lspci
[15:03] <guest123> it's kind of old
[15:03] <amanu> andresmh:there you can find your audio device
[15:03] <andresmh> thanks  dulakian, amanu.
[15:03] <rraj_be> tommi_:
[15:04] <rraj_be> are u there tommi_
[15:04] <ishqip> hello , how can i open network places in ubuntu with fluxbox ?
[15:04] <tommi_> rraj_be: yeah i'm here
[15:04] <jrib> alpsy: http://pastebin.com/f695d4a53 You need to get rid of your current "Configured Mouse" section and replace it with something like my "Logitech MX Revolution" section (or keep the name the same, doesn't matter).  The key linke is Driver "evdev" and Option "Device" HERE_YOU_FIND_THE_PATH_FOR_YOUR_MOUSE.  The other Option line doesn't matter.  If you change the name of the section, make sure it matches in
[15:04] <jrib>  ServerLayout
[15:04] <rraj_be> had u got any idea tommi_
[15:04] <ForgeAus> ish, um not sure fluxbox can
[15:05] <ForgeAus> but you can probably get a program that can for you ...
[15:05] <ForgeAus> is the secondlife installer on getdeb old?
[15:05] <joshux> is it possible to use plip through a Residential gateway with printer server(it has lpt port)
[15:05] <ForgeAus> secondlife says it needs to be updated, and there's no autoupdate :(
[15:05] <tommi_> rraj_be: as i said try to pick a spot in your house where you can get better signal
[15:05] <andresmh> amanu: how should I go about trying to figure out why my mic doesn't work ?
[15:06] <jrib> Aron__: good news.  I've found that on a live cd, the mail user exists by default.  Do you have any clues as to why you do not have a mail user?
[15:06] <rraj_be> hm . . .:)
[15:06] <diskin_> guest123, looks like you also need powernow-k8
[15:06] <tommi_> try also to change settings, buti don't know which ones
[15:06] <andresmh> i found my soundcard is an intel 82801H
[15:06] <rraj_be> :) tommi_  ok
[15:06] <rraj_be> my house is just 500 metter away from my sirtel tower tommi_
[15:06] <Aron__> jrib: might I deleted it sometime before?
[15:06] <amanu> andresmh:check it in your volume control options
[15:06] <dulakian> andresmh: did you use the mixer to turn on the mic input?  I think by default alsa mutes everything
[15:07] <guest123> diskin_, would powernowd suffice?
[15:07] <jrib> Aron__: maybe.  Are you sure your install completed successfully?
[15:07] <diskin_> guest123, AFAIK no. check http://badcomputer.org/unix/compaqr3000.bot
[15:07] <diskin_> guest123, and try modprobe powernow-k8
[15:07] <amanu> andresmh:can you find it?
[15:08] <guest123> diskin_, ah, because I apt-cache searched pwernow and it came up with powernowd which seems to be a cpu speed controller
[15:08] <dulakian> rraj_be: the problem with wireless is dead spots are created by stuff you can't see, I have a spot in my house that gets no wireless signal, and it's about 3 meters from the wireless base station
[15:08] <Aron__> jrib:yes
[15:08] <amanu> im getting this error "You have 57 broken packages on your system! Use the "Broken" filter to locate them"when i start synaptic package manager
[15:08] <jrib> Aron__: can you pastebin your /etc/passwd?
[15:08] <andresmh> dulakian, amanu: thanks. i found the sound controller. i went over each one of the devices and made sure they were not mute.
[15:09] <amanu> with this i cant install any packages
[15:09] <Aron__> jrib: ...OK
[15:09] <andresmh> then i went to the sound recorder and tryied to record something but nothing plays back
[15:09] <diskin_> guest123, I do not remember myself installing powernow-k8 - perhaps it was there already. try modprobe...
[15:09] <rraj_be> k dulakian  do you have any idea to improve the spee other than changing signal strenght because its getting around 85-90% signal and i checked it with MY PHONE EXPLORER
[15:09] <guest123> diskin_, k
[15:09] <rraj_be> dulakian:
[15:09] <Aron__> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/56657/
[15:10] <tommi_> rraj_be: are you connecting iwth bluetooth?
[15:10] <dulakian> rraj_be: it's hard when you're on mobile wireless like that, with a base station I would say put it up higher, and turn it so the signal changes, but since the tower is fixed all you can do is move the computer around till you get clear signal
[15:11] <mcarolan> hey all, for some reasone eclipse will no longer open, it says to check the log file, but the log is pretty much useless (just a massive stack trace). Tried reinstalling, anyone have any other ideas? cheers
[15:11] <dulakian> andresmh: open a terminal and run alsamixer, use the arrow keys to go to the right until you see the mic listed, is that at 0?
[15:11] <tehlrov> Can anyone help me out with microphone problems in Ubuntu 8.04?
[15:11] <TurboWolf> tehlrov, try downloading 8.10
[15:11] <TurboWolf> that fixed my wifi problems
[15:12] <tehlrov> turbowolf: I'm a bit leery to do that, given the intel gigE network problems
[15:12] <tehlrov> and I have one of the affected cards
[15:12] <tommi_> rraj_be: are you connecting with USB2 or USB1? or bluetoth?
[15:12] <rraj_be> usb2
[15:12] <andresmh> dulakian: pressing the left and right arrow key doesn't seem to change anything. I keep seeing <Master> at the bottom.
[15:12] <dulakian> andresmh: use tab to switch screens then
[15:12] <tommi_> rraj_be: connecting with umts or gprs?
[15:13] <rraj_be> usb2 tommi_
[15:13] <tehlrov> turbowolf: for that matter, can you even update to 8.10 over network?
[15:13] <rraj_be> gprs tommi_
[15:13] <tommi_> then its ok
[15:13] <andresmh> dulakian: ah, now I see <capture>
[15:13] <tommi_> rraj_be: you can't get good speed with gprs
[15:13] <andresmh> and the volume is 71
[15:13] <rraj_be> :(
[15:13] <rraj_be> any idea plz ..........
[15:13] <amanu> andresmh:just double click over it
[15:13] <jrib> Aron__: You could just create the mail user, but my gut tells me something is wrong with your installation as by default you supposed to have a mail user.
[15:13] <tommi_> rraj_be: there's nothing much you can do sorry, can you upgrade to umts? where in the world do you live?
[15:14] <andresmh> it only switches fom <Master> to <Capture> to " <Master> and <Capture>"
[15:14] <rraj_be> india
[15:14] <rraj_be> india tommi_
[15:14] <andresmh> but there is no <Mic> dulakian if that's what I should be seeing
[15:14] <Aron__> jrib: still how to do that?
[15:14] <dulakian> andresmh: yeah not sure why your arrows aren't working, the mic is off the screen to the right, and the one you want is listed on playback, not capture.  that doesn't make any sense but it's the way it is
[15:14] <tommi_> rraj_be: GPRS is SLOW, get over it :) switch to UMTS, that's FASTER
[15:14] <rraj_be> ok
[15:15] <techsupport> i cant login to my ubuntu server after removing samba, winbind, and ntp
[15:15] <rraj_be> what speed can i get in UMNTS
[15:15] <rraj_be> UMTS
[15:15] <amanu> im getting this error "You have 57 broken packages on your system! Use the "Broken" filter to locate them"when i start synaptic package manager
[15:15] <amanu> with this i cant install any packages
[15:15] <tommi_> rraj_be - something like isdn-adsl
[15:15] <amanu> can any one find a solution]
[15:15] <techsupport> and ever time i am trying to install something i get dpkg error processing samba
[15:15] <tommi_> rraj_be: i could play online games with umts without too much lag
[15:15] <techsupport> any time i try to install it back
[15:15] <andresmh> dulakian: strange. if it's of any help. it shows that the version of AlsaMixer is v1.0.17
[15:16] <Jab> Anyone familiar with emacs and how to use rmail or is this something just obsolete anymore?
[15:16] <rraj_be> k
[15:16] <homy> hello. I once heard about a free php programm that is like youtube, but I forgot its name.
[15:16] <homy> Anybody know about it?
[15:16] <Jab> Or should I say configure rmail to receive email
[15:16] <netwerk> ello ello
[15:16] <tommi_> homy: try on google 'php script youtube'
[15:17] <jrib> Aron__: you need to create a mail user with useradd so that he has the following characteristics: mail:x:8:8:mail:/var/mail:/bin/sh .   Do you have a mail group?
[15:17] <tommi_> homy: ah sorry i was looking at localized version of google results, yours maay be different
[15:17] <dulakian> andresmh: try using the "n" and "p" key to move between the channels on the mixer
[15:17] <dulakian> andresmh: n and p are supposed to do the same as the arrows
[15:17] <homy> tommi_: oh, thanks, I searched with other terms...
[15:18] <NeoxTurbo_> hi , is there any package that i can re-master the the ubuntu installed on my PC with the installed , and pack it in ISO cd /or/DVD ? , every time i install ubuntu i take several hours for customizations
[15:18] <LjL> amanu: try typing "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade", and pastebin the output
[15:18] <tommi_> homy: phpmotion maybe?
[15:18] <andresmh> dulakian: yeah, n and p do the same as the arrows which is basically selecting either <Master> or <Capture>
[15:18] <amanu> LjL:ok thanks :p
[15:18] <netwerk> im runnin latest stable ubuntu server, got bind9 and DHCP up and running, but none of my dhcp clients seem to get the name servers added on renew, when i add them in manually everything seems to work
[15:18] <Aron__> jrib: seems no mail group
[15:18] <LjL> amanu: do that without synaptic open
[15:19] <amanu> ok
[15:19] <tommi_> NeoxTurbo_: there's a packaged that saves personlizatinos and settings let me lookk for it
[15:19] <techsupport> help please, i cant login to my ubuntu
[15:19] <NeoxTurbo_> thanks Tommi am here
[15:19] <dulakian> andresmh: sorry man, your mixer is not acting anything like mine
[15:19] <andresmh> dulakian: tab lets me change the View, from [Playback] to [Capture] to [All]
[15:19] <andresmh> what version of the mixer doyou have dulakian ?
[15:19] <dulakian> andresmh: on mine the mic was 0, even though the mixer in Xwindows showed everything as on and working
[15:19] <jrib> Aron__: then you would need create that to with gid 8.  imo you should just reinstall, there's probably other stuff wrong that you don't know about
[15:20] <dulakian> andresmh: 1.0.15
[15:20] <andresmh> dulakian: maybe it's the different version, i have1.0.17
[15:20] <amanu> LjL:http://paste.ubuntu.com/56662/
[15:20] <dulakian> andresmh: I don't see them changing the interface completely in a point release, but maybe
[15:20] <techsupport> when i try to put in the user name it says login incorrect
[15:21] <jrib> techsupport: try from a tty (ctrl-alt-f1)
[15:21] <LjL> amanu: looks bad. before trying -f install, let me look at your /etc/apt/sources.list (do you have 3rd party repositories?)
[15:21] <GMWeezel1> How can I reset the "open with" menus? I figure I woudl just delete a config file but which one?
[15:21] <BlueEagle> !multimedia
[15:21] <cosmodad> I used to have freezing issues with Gutsy when watching a movie after returning from suspend mode (laptop). Back then, I was able to solve this by using the 2D driver for my Intel 915GM video chipset. After upgrading to Hardy, however, my adjustments seem to have been reverted, and I can't remember the exact steps I did back then. Can anyone be helpful, e.g. tell me how to enable a 2D video setup?
[15:21] <techsupport> jrib, tty ?
[15:22] <Lartza_> i have couple questions about dual boot
[15:22] <Lartza_> willl ubuntu install automatically put windows to grub menu?
[15:22] <jrib> techsupport: hit ctrl-alt-f1, you'll get a text login
[15:22] <amanu> jL:ok
[15:22] <techsupport> jrib, i dont have gui
[15:22] <techsupport> jrib, i have the server version
[15:22] <amanu> LjL:ok
[15:22] <Euperia> Has something changed in a recent update to disable Administrator access ?
[15:22] <Wargasm> yeah it puts windows in grub menu
[15:22] <jrib> techsupport: ok, then you are sure you don't have capslock on etc?
[15:22] <ponicg> :q
[15:22] <tommi_> Lartza_: i think it will
[15:22] <techsupport> jrib, yeah 100 %
[15:22] <Zach[DM]> I have a new install of ubuntu on a server I just bought. What packages do I need to compile .c files?
[15:22] <Trashlord> Lartza_: it will install grub
[15:22] <Trashlord> and put a windows entry
[15:23] <jrib> techsupport: reboot into recovery mode and make sure the user still exists.  reset the password
[15:23] <tommi_> Lartza_: last time i checked it put the windows entry at the bottom
[15:23] <ForgeAus> Lartza if it detects it yes, I know it works for XP not sure about Vista tho
[15:23] <Trashlord> Lartza_: when you boot, GRUB will load, and give you the option to choose which OS you wish to boot into
[15:23] <Lartza_> how about i have some fancy hardware atleast for windows will they work in ubuntu
[15:23] <techsupport> jrib, ok
[15:23] <Trashlord> depends on the hardware
[15:23] <techsupport> jrib, can you stay with me on this ?
[15:23] <Lartza_> realtek high definiton audio card(integrated)
[15:23] <Trashlord> what kind of fancy hardware do you have?
[15:23] <tommi_> Lartza_: define fancy, or how about DESCRIBING THE HARDWARE :)
[15:23] <Euperia> I can't do anything that requires root access any more (apart from sudo).  Administration > Network displays the 'unlock' button greyed out.
[15:24] <dulakian> Zach[DM]: you can install the package called build-essential to get all you need to compile
[15:24] <jrib> techsupport: yeah sure, just highlight me
[15:24] <Trashlord> I believe RealTek audio cards do work, yes
[15:24] <Lartza_> and ati radeon x1200 integrated
[15:24] <Zach[DM]> Thank you dulakian :)
[15:24] <Wargasm> creative x-fi wont work in ubuntu
[15:24] <amanu> LjL:ok http://paste.ubuntu.com/56663/ this is my sources.list
[15:24] <Lartza_> when i installed winxp over vista to his comp i had no sound so...
[15:24] <Wargasm> depends on the sound card
[15:24] <tommi_> have you tried looking for them on google Lartza_ ?
[15:24] <netwerk> radeaon 200 works with nothing special
[15:24] <Wargasm> creative wont work
[15:24] <Trashlord> Lartza_: if you want to be sure, search for it on google or something
[15:25] <Aron__> jrib:sorry,I find there is a mail group in it,I didn't see it just then
[15:25] <jrib> Aron__: k
[15:25] <GMWeezel1> How can I reset the "open with" menus? I figure I woudl just delete a config file but which one?
[15:25] <tommi_> Lartza_ something like "ati radeon x1200 ubuntu" or something like that?
[15:25] <Aron__> jrib:how to add that user?
[15:25] <Lartza_> damn i haveg only 7.10 live cd...
[15:25] <tommi_> download the latest
[15:25] <Lartza_> its not maybe best to install from that
[15:26] <fkueblbeck> if i want to access a printer connected to a remote laptop, do i need to have the drivers installed for this printer? i assume yes...
[15:26] <tommi_> no :)
[15:26] <jrib> Aron__: read 'man useradd' for the options you need.  Read 'man 5 passwd' to understand what the line from my /etc/passwd that I pasted before means.  I don't know the command offhand.  Feel free to paste it before you run it
[15:26] <netwerk> not good to install from "live" cd's
[15:26] <Lartza_> lol i burn cd and 8.10 is coming in 18 days
[15:26] <Trashlord> I suggest not to download the latest
[15:26] <Trashlord> exactly
[15:26] <tommi_> fkueblbeck: yeah, but for basic stuff you may not need drivers
[15:26] <netwerk> fkueblbeck yes
[15:26] <Trashlord> because 8.10 is coming out on october 30th
[15:26] <techsupport> jrib, ok booted to recovery, how can i check if the user still exisst ?
[15:26] <Lartza_> netwerk its the one you get free
[15:26] <techsupport> jrib, exists
[15:26] <Lartza_> Trashlord yea i can wait
[15:26] <Trashlord> you might as well wait and download 8.10
[15:27] <jrib> techsupport: getent passwd USER_NAME
[15:27] <ForgeAus> why not netwerk?
[15:27] <tommi_> Trashlord: how do you knowwhen it's coming out? there's an RSS feed somewhere with announcments?
[15:27] <fkueblbeck> but for using extra functions like printing onto cds and stuff i might be best to have the drivers right?
[15:27] <Lartza_> in 18 days its coming
[15:27] <Trashlord> No, tommi_, I visit the ubuntu forums
[15:27] <techsupport> jrib, yeah still exists
[15:27] <perillux> I really need help setting up Samba to share files and folders.  I've been trying to do this for days but and I just don't get what i'm doing wrong.  I can see my shares by doing "smbclient -L localhost" but if I go to Places>network>WindowsNetwork  it is completely empty.
[15:27] <jrib> techsupport: reset the password
[15:27] <Trashlord> that's where I keep up to date with Ubuntu releases and bug fixes, and the likes
[15:27] <amanu> Lartza_:what s coming in 18 days :p
[15:27] <tommi_> fkueblbeck: sure, with drivers your pc can talk to printer more eaasily
[15:27] <Lartza_> new ubuntu
[15:27] <tommi_> Trashlord: great to know, thanks
[15:27] <Trashlord> np
[15:28] <netwerk> the "live" cd's are pre configured and set up just a notch different, like knoppix, its not the same as a full on install
[15:28] <Lartza_> tommi_ you never visit ubuntu's site?
[15:28] <orbish> where does xorg save it's information
[15:28] <Zach[DM]> Does anyone know what the name of the packages are that I need: OpenSSL Binary and OpenSSL Library
[15:28] <techsupport> jrib, the problem is that at logon when i type the user name to login, it just says login incorrect
[15:28] <orbish> not xorg.conf, the new place
[15:28] <techsupport> jrib, it doesnt even prompt me for password
[15:28] <fkueblbeck> i've seen people here talk about "samba". what is this tool baiscally used for? something with networks?
[15:29] <tommi_> Lartza_: actually only once to download the iso for my eee :) i quit using ubuntu for long time and started again last week only
[15:29] <jrib> techsupport: hrmm.  Did you change the way logins work on your machine in any way?
[15:29] <ForgeAus> perillux your workgroup?
[15:29] <techsupport> jrib, what i did before it happend was i unisntalled winbind, samba, and ntp
[15:29] <orbish> fkueblbeck: samba makes sharing with windows easy
[15:29] <tommi_> fkueblbeck: it's a protocol to operate with windows shares across a network AFAIK
[15:29] <netwerk> fkueblbeck samba = windows networking
[15:29] <Lartza_> are you finnish by the way?
[15:29] <ForgeAus> Samba is Windows filesharing's protocol
[15:29] <techsupport> jrib, yeah i think i remember now
[15:29] <tommi_> Lartza_: me?
[15:29] <netwerk> me? no, i stole my nick from a record lable
[15:30] <ForgeAus> not exactly a tool as such
[15:30] <perillux> ForgeAus: it's not showing up, I set my workgroup to KEITHS in the smb.conf, and it is the same on the windows machine.
[15:30] <Lartza_> tommi_: you
[15:30] <tommi_> Lartza_: no italian
[15:30] <Lartza_> ok
[15:30] <fkueblbeck> so i don't have to care about this samba when i do not have a singe windows pc here?
[15:30] <Trashlord> Lartza_: sina olet suomalainen?
[15:30] <tommi_> Lartza_: i know tommi is used in finland a lot, i like it much better than with an y at the end
[15:30] <tommi_> fkueblbeck: i don't think so
[15:30] <tommi_> fkueblbeck: let me check
[15:30] <netwerk> fkueblbeck, correct
[15:30] <Trashlord> I mean olen*
[15:31] <Trashlord> :P
[15:31] <Lartza_> you arent
[15:31] <netwerk> fkueblbeck: its only used to acced windows drive shares
[15:31] <Lartza_> or?
[15:31] <netwerk> acced = access
[15:31] <Trashlord> I grew up speaking Finnish, mina aiti is from suomi
[15:31] <Lartza_> you didnt write scandinavian letter Ä in sinä
[15:31] <Trashlord> but I can't speak it at all
[15:31] <Trashlord> just a little, right now
[15:32] <Lartza_> mina aiti = I mother :)
[15:32] <fkueblbeck> can ubuntu automatically detect external hard drives and printers when they're connected to my wlan router?
[15:32] <Lartza_> i noticed that
[15:32] <Trashlord> see
[15:32] <Trashlord> that's what I mean
[15:32] <Trashlord> lol
[15:32] <Lartza_> yea
[15:32] <florin> How to enforce logout at specified time; tried timeoutd and it didn't ended the session ?
[15:32] <Trashlord> I could speak Finnish fluently up until the age of 9 or 10
[15:32] <Lartza_> i speak finnish as my mother language and english pretty fluently
[15:33] <amanu> florin:you to to log out by force from ubuntu?
[15:33] <ubuntu> Hi.  Does anyone know anything about a kernel for SATA drives?  I read something about it, but haven't been able to find anymore info.
[15:33] <amanu> florin:you mean  to log out by force from ubuntu?
[15:33] <Lartza_> gaah cant wait 18 days to get ubuntu
[15:33] <tommi_> florin: with cron an init 0 :)
[15:34] <Lartza_> so does linux have good ati drivers?
[15:34] <Lartza_> oh but ati may have official ones for linux
[15:34] <orbish> how do i turn off xorg autodetect, or freeze a configuration?
[15:34] <IamSOG> No, they don't, but they do have nice ones
[15:34] <tommi_> Lartza_: on my hp i could use ati drivers easily
[15:34] <tommi_> Lartza_: hp notebook
[15:35] <tommi_> Lartza_: in minutes i could use compiz and 3d games
[15:35] <florin> amanu: ya
[15:35] <Lartza_> ati has no drivers for my motherboard/graphics card(official)
[15:35] <LjL> amanu: whoops sorry, i engaged in a discussion and forgot about you. well, since your sources.list looks good to me, i'd go on and type "sudo apt-get -f install"
[15:35] <Lartza_> i have heard that nvidia handles linux people better
[15:35] <Dreamglider_> can anyone help me to mount FAT and NTFS partitions ?
[15:35] <netwerk> why dont my dhcp clients automatically get the dns ns addresses? they are configed and set up
[15:35] <Lartza_> so what do i install when i boot up linux?
[15:36] <Lartza_> oh there is that driver thing on the mnu
[15:36] <Lartza_> *menu
[15:36] <tommi_> Lartza_: yeah
[15:36] <orbish> netwerk: linux uses /etc/resolv.conf for DNS addresses, why couldn't say
[15:36] <Lartza_> starting to remember things fro here and there
[15:36] <tommi_> Lartza_: it should prompt you if there are closed source drivers available
[15:36] <Dreamglider_> im trying to mount en external hard disk but i dont know how to go about it.
[15:36] <ubuntu> Dreamglider, there's a GUI that will mount your NTFS drives... hang on and I will fetch the name.
[15:36] <amanu> LjL:mean while i engaged it my Edit > Fix Broken Packages Apply Marked Changes finally clicked Apply.
[15:36] <Lartza_> i come here if i get no sound or 3dacceleration when i install ubuntu :D
[15:37] <tommi_> Lartza_: well done :D
[15:37] <netwerk> the dns is all working, when the dhcp client connects, he doesnt get the name servers added to his connection settings
[15:37] <amanu> LjL:it was downloading for missing packages hope it will work after it
[15:37] <Dreamglider_> thansk ubuntu
[15:37] <LjL> amanu: well if it doesn't, type what i said
[15:37] <amanu> LjL:any how thanks
[15:37] <Lartza_> but need to wait 18 days
[15:37] <amanu> LjL:ok
[15:37] <schmolch> can you reply to a old post from a mailing-list, before you have been subdscribed, somehow?
[15:37] <tommi_> Lartza_: just install the current one and see if solves problems
[15:37] <tommi_> then install the next one in 18 days
[15:37] <Lartza_> ?
[15:37] <Lartza_> what problems
[15:38] <Dream-Ubu> hello :) i have returned
[15:38] <tommi_> i thought you needed drivers for your ati card
[15:38] <Lartza_> i dont have that much cds to "waste" >:(
[15:38] <amanu> lorin:you can do it at any time by alt+ctrl+backspace ok?
[15:38] <Dreamglider_> welcome :)
[15:38] <Lartza_> i am getting ubuntu to my computer
[15:38] <Lartza_> no issues
[15:38] <Lartza_> and im gonna wait 18 days
[15:38] <tommi_> Lartza_: how about a usb or a rewritabe cd then ? :)
[15:38] <homy> hi, does anybody know about a free (gpl) php script for sharing videos (you tube like)?
[15:38] <Dream-Ubu> is there anyway to patch from ubuntu to SuSE? >_<
[15:38] <homy> It can also be pyhon, of course
[15:38] <tommi_> homy: phpmotion
[15:38] <Lartza_> usb?
[15:38] <ubuntu> Dreamglider, ntfs-config, it's in Synaptic, run it in a terminal and it will start the GUI.
[15:39] <Asuka> hi
[15:39] <tommi_> Lartza_: you can install from usb
[15:39] <Lartza_> how how how???
[15:39] <florin> tommi_: logout not halt
[15:39] <tommi_> florin: ah right sorry
[15:39] <Lartza_> whats difference between ubuntu cd and dvd?
[15:39] <techsupport> jrib, where can i get original entries of files /etc/pam.d/common-account , /etc/pam.d/common-auth , /etc/pam.d/common-session, /etc/pam.d/sudo ?
[15:39] <tommi_> Lartza_: it's full of support pages and howtos on booting from usb
[15:39] <Lartza_> i found
[15:39] <BlueEagle> Lartza_: The dvd has got more packages and more installation options (most notably the oem install option)
[15:39] <tommi_> Lartza_: as long as your bios allows usb booting you're ok
[15:40] <jrib> techsupport: live cd maybe?
[15:40] <Lartza_> but i dont think its really healthy for my ipod :/
[15:40] <ladybug23543136> can someone look at this translation file?: https://translations.launchpad.net/coccinella/trunk/+imports
[15:40] <homy> tommi_: it requires a register to download - I don't like that.
[15:40] <GreedyB> Whats a good program to possibly recovery files from a messed up drive?
[15:40] <amanu> Lartza_:it really doent matter i think any how its upto your wish
[15:40] <rio> is there a solution for the firefox crashing with flash movies problem?
[15:41] <homy> anybody know a simple youtube like free php/python script?
[15:41] <ladybug23543136> I'm trying to convert the Tcl translation files (not gettext!) to .po files and I want to see if it works
[15:41] <tommi_> homy: ah sorry i didn't know about this, you can easily bypass registratino with a mailinator account eh
[15:41] <Dreamglider_> ubuntu, that only let's me set a check to write to internal and external drives
[15:41] <ubuntu> I had a melt down, kernel panic during forced disk check... /var/log/message doesn't show any EIP (?) entries.
[15:41] <techsupport> jrib, how can i check if the one i have installed is 64 or 32 bit ?
[15:42] <CMD_L1N3> hello
[15:42] <ladybug23543136> btw: doesn't ubuntu has MUC rooms besides IRC channels?
[15:42] <ubuntu> Hmmm, did you mannually mount the drives already?
[15:42] <jrib> techsupport: uname -m
[15:42] <ladybug23543136> or a MUC interface to the IRC channels
[15:42] <toresn> how can i disable bold fonts in aterm?
[15:42] <smelian> hello please i need help with this ( dmesg | tail -n 50 ) the result should be like picture 1 but the picture 2 i missed something ( sr? )
[15:42] <smelian> 1-http://img56.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aalw2.jpg
[15:42] <smelian> 2- http://img78.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eeen6.png
[15:42] <Lartza_> amanu i mean ipod has hard drive
[15:42] <CMD_L1N3> when i play games in ubuntu sometimes the games will freeze and turn all kinds of pretty colors
[15:42] <Myrtti> what is MUC, ladybug23543136?
[15:42] <Lartza_> so its not the best way to use it as
[15:42] <amanu> Lartza_:ok
[15:43] <ladybug23543136> I never use IRC and it kinda sucks to use IRC in an XMPP client :(
[15:43] <Lartza_> well its not really problem maybe but its just slower than flash drive
[15:43] <ladybug23543136> Myrtti: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0045.html
[15:43] <thiebaude> !xmpp
[15:43] <amanu> Lartza_:have you installed befor any linux version in any usb
[15:43] <Myrtti> ladybug23543136: unfortunately this is the official "MUC" for ubuntu
[15:43] <Lartza_> yes
[15:44] <Myrtti> "unfortunately"
[15:44] <balachmar> How can I revert to an older kernel?
[15:44] <Lartza_> damnsmalllinux on flash drive
[15:44] <amanu> Lartza_:which one?
[15:44] <Helminthe> florin: for an internet-cafe like setup, the package procps allows you to control a workstation via ssh or cron
[15:44] <amanu> Lartza_:how much mb is it?
[15:44] <Helminthe> florin: check pgrep and pkill
[15:44] <Lartza_> 512
[15:44]  * ladybug23543136 don't want to install an IRC client just for this channel :(
[15:44] <amanu> Lartza_: i too want to do it thats why asking
[15:44] <Helminthe> florin: to logout an x session, do a pgrep -u <theuser> session and kill that
[15:44] <thiebaude> balachmar:restart your computer then press esc and revert back to an older kernel if you can
[15:44] <ubuntu> I need a name change... brb
[15:44] <tommi_> ladybug23543136: you can always uninstall it later eh
[15:44] <amanu> Lartza_:is it easy and works fine?
[15:45] <homy> anybody know about a simple web script with which I can play movies (like youtube)?
[15:45] <Lartza_> damnsmalllinux?
[15:45] <amanu> yes
[15:45] <ladybug23543136> anyway, can anybody take a look at the translation file I uploaded to Launchpad?
[15:45] <Lartza_> well... it sucks
[15:45] <Lartza_> :D
[15:45] <amanu> Lartza_:yes
[15:45] <balachmar> thiebaude: OK, but what if I want an even older kernel that the ones currently installed?
[15:45] <amanu> why?
[15:45] <Lartza_> it has kinda crappy repository
[15:45] <Lartza_> and its just...
[15:45] <Lartza_> i didnt like it
[15:45] <FloodBot3> Lartza_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:45] <amanu> Lartza_:whats kinda crappy repository?
[15:45] <Lartza_> try it, boot it inside... windows :D
[15:45] <amanu> what is it?
[15:45] <ladybug23543136> tommi_: I also need to learn how to work with IRC and I don't want to spend time on that before I can ask questions here
[15:46] <thiebaude> balachmar:if it's on the list of kernels listed at startup
[15:46] <balachmar> thiebaude: I did an upgrade earlier, but now my system is unstable and I want to revert to the previous kernel, but that has been uninstalled
[15:46] <Lartza_> i really didnt use it much
[15:46] <homy> I'm looking for a simple (extremely simple) youtube like site that I can install in apache
[15:46] <thiebaude> balachmar:give me one sec
[15:46] <homy> in php or like that
[15:46] <amanu> Lartza_:ok can you give a link to get it?
[15:46] <poseidon> i need for help in ubuntu
[15:46] <Lartza_> how do you want it?
[15:46] <Lartza_> http://damnsmalllinux.org/
[15:47] <amanu> poseidon !ask
[15:47] <amanu> to ask
[15:47] <Myrtti> !away > JAG|away
[15:47] <amanu> just ask
[15:47] <r00twayne> Wonder if anybody here has any ideas. I am running ubuntu intrepid, connection is wireless broadcom  b43 driver, though i am experiecing very slow speeds, latency
[15:47] <Myrtti> !intrepid | r00twayne
[15:47] <poseidon> i cant rmvb video in the mplayer
[15:47] <homy> nobody know a php youtube like script?
[15:47] <amanu> Lartza_:ok
[15:47] <amanu> Lartza_: i too try it
[15:47] <Lartza_> what does UBootin do to my usb drive? will i lose all my things on ipod
[15:47] <amanu> Lartza_:do you know we can also install ubunut?
[15:48] <amanu> ubuntu
[15:48] <tommi_> homy: if registrations scre you get an account at mailinator.com and you won't receive spam
[15:48] <thiebaude> balachmar:i'am not sure how you do that
[15:48] <poseidon> yes
[15:48] <poseidon> ubuntu studio 8,10
[15:49] <Knoobuntu> Ah, that's better.
[15:49] <poseidon> video format rmvb
[15:49] <homy> tommi_: but that script also looks very complicated; I only want something where I can upload a video and play it. Thats all. It doesn't even have to be multiple videos, or upload by html, ...
[15:49] <deathtech> HEya Fellas
[15:49] <homy> or I don't need rating, comments, tags, ...
[15:49] <thiebaude> balachmar:when you did the upgrade you prob deleted the older kernel, just like i did
[15:49] <Helminthe> homy: what you need is not ubuntu or linux specific, and most likely best handled client-side by a video player. look for a whatever->FLV converter (sorenson squeeze or mencoder), and for a Flash video player (jw flv media player). uploads can be done vie ftp if you want something very simple
[15:49] <Dream-Ubu> changing view to 1026X800 or what ever it is, how is it done again?
[15:49] <tommi_> homy: then sorry i can't help you.
[15:50] <homy> tommi_: maybe somebody else can.
[15:50] <balachmar> thiebaude: I guess so, but I want it back! :)
[15:50] <homy> Anybody know about a really extremely simple video sharing script that imbeds the video in flash?
[15:50] <tommi_> homy: i hope for you that somebody can, look at Helminthe response maybe it's more helpful
[15:50] <poseidon> video format rmvb in the ubuntu 8.10
[15:50] <poseidon> help
[15:51] <tommi_> homy: and maybe ask for this somewhere else more php related, like #php (if this exists on irc.ubuntu.org)
[15:51] <thiebaude> Dream-ubu:prefernences>screen resolution
[15:51] <thiebaude> preferences
[15:51] <deathtech> Nix Newb, updated to the latest linux kernel, didnt modify the menu.lst when prompted, How do i add the correct entry so as to boot the new kernel in my /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:51] <Knoobuntu> Still here Dreamglider?
[15:51] <homy> Helminthe: I'll try that.
[15:52] <smelian> ﻿﻿i need help with this ( dmesg | tail -n 50 ) the result should be like picture 1 but the picture 2 i missed something ( sr? )
[15:52] <smelian>   1-http://img56.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aalw2.jpg
[15:52] <smelian>  2- http://img78.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eeen6.png
[15:52] <tommi_> deathtech: sudo vim /boot/grub/menu.lst (or what editor you prefer), copy an entry and modify it
[15:52] <thiebaude> !pastebin
[15:52] <zender2> please instruct me how to modify boot.ini to boot linux FIRST.. which means 1.linux 2.windows
[15:53] <Dreamglider_> Knoobuntu, yes
[15:53] <tommi_> zender2: you need to modify, in linux, the file /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:53] <tommi_> zender2: as root of course since it' a system file
[15:53] <tommi_> it's
[15:53] <thiebaude> zender2:grub doesn't give you a choice of OS's?
[15:54] <deathtech> tommi_ : thanks, bear withme as im not a complete noob, but in my previous experience in the launch line you just add an entry pointing to where the kernel is stored. in this menu.lst there are a lot of random letters (Hashmarks ?) and was wondering if there is a utility i should run vs manually adding/editing
[15:54] <zender2> i installed grub on secondary parition. grabbed the bootlauncher and copied it to C: and modified boot.ini to launch it
[15:55] <tommi_> deathtech: i don't know really, always did it by hand
[15:55] <Helminthe> zender2: boot.ini is a plain text file. just attrib -r -h -s c:\boot.ini and open it in notepad
[15:55] <Dreamglider_> Knoobuntu, yes i'm still here :)
[15:55] <tommi_> deathtech: copy the current loading block as backup and mnually change the new one
[15:55] <thiebaude> zender2:i never modified a boot entry
[15:55] <zender2> i know but it launches first.. before grub.. that's why if i mess it up i'm screwed
[15:55] <deathtech> kk, tryin now
[15:55] <tommi_> zender2: make backups and you won't have problems i think
[15:55] <florin> Helminthe: thank you
[15:55] <Knoobuntu> You should try editing your fstab to include the drives you want to mount. sudo gedit /etc/fstab  Uh, I think you use fdisk -l to get the info you will need to add... it will go in after the entry for Linux.
[15:55] <thiebaude> hmm
[15:56] <zender2> i dont know to make backups :(
[15:56] <ladybug23543136> nobody knows how I can speed up the review process for https://translations.launchpad.net/coccinella/trunk/+imports ?
[15:56] <leonox> ﻿hi I'm having a problem... I have a program that use to work well in Ubuntu 7 now that i have Ubuntu 8. I compiled it and installed it, but it's really slow and i get this error [driAllocateTexture:636] unable to allocate texture, which could be the source of the problem?
[15:56] <tommi_> zender2: copy a file using the cp command as follows: cp filename filename.bak
[15:56] <Knoobuntu> ^^^That is fdisk -L but in lower case... -l, not an i
[15:56] <zender2> tommi_ is that in ubuntu or in windows ?
[15:56] <Lartza_> you can get 8.10 already??
[15:56] <tommi_> zender2: this way if you screw up you just have to digit 'mv filename.bak filename' to rewrite the file with old settings
[15:57] <tommi_> zender2: linux
[15:57] <Dreamglider_> Knoobuntu, i have made one dir for every partition in /media/ and edited fstab to include them but it wont work i must be dooing somthing wrong
[15:57] <Helminthe> tommi_: I think there's  bit of confusion here, zender2 is using the Windows boot loader
[15:57] <garu> hi everyone
[15:57] <Lartza_> its some beta?
[15:57] <tommi_> Helminthe: ah sorry abuot that i made confusion
[15:57] <zender2> yes.. windows loader kicks in first.. and the if i choose linux in the list grub kicks in
[15:57] <Lartza_> on unetbootin there is option 8.10 live and netinstall
[15:57] <thiebaude> lartza:sudo apt-get update-manager -d,
[15:57] <Lartza_> but the counter says 18 days
[15:57] <thiebaude> lartza, if you want it
[15:57] <Lartza_> so its like "beta"
[15:57] <amanu> any one can say what does this means :Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel
[15:58] <ladybug23543136> ?
[15:58] <thiebaude> lartza:8.10 comes out Oct, 10
[15:58] <Aron__> jrib:happy to tell you,it works!
[15:58] <jrib> Aron__: great
[15:58] <thiebaude> lartza:i'am using 8.10
[15:58] <Helminthe> zender2: boot.ini file format is very simple, just look in it
[15:58] <zender2> Helminthe how do i make grub boot before windows loader?
[15:58] <Dillizar> i have installed xubuntu, how can i change from ubuntu to Xubuntu
[15:58] <tommi_> thiebaude: oct 10th was 2 days ago no? :)
[15:58] <Knoobuntu> Hmm, let me grab a link to the Unbuntu Forums... run through those steps as if you had not tried anything already and see if it takes it after a shut down/boot up.  On second.
[15:58] <amanu> Lartza_: can u say what does this means :Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel
[15:58] <thiebaude> my bad, Oct 20
[15:58] <thiebaude> Oct 30
[15:58] <Lartza_> amanu you need to register your nick
[15:59] <thiebaude> tommi:i can't type :)
[15:59] <amanu> how to do that
[15:59] <garu> I'm having a problem with ubuntu.I just made a fresh install of the 8.04 LTS that i'v downloaded yesterday. but after a little while of the system starting, everything freezes, the mouse is locked and the only way out if doing a hard reboot.can someone help?
[15:59] <bbrs24rr> i was trying to compile a .tar and there is nothing to compile in the extracted folder. what do i have to do?
[15:59] <amanu> Lartza_:im a new bie can u
[15:59] <Lartza_> so should i get 8.04 or 8.04 to my usb drive and live cd or netinstall?
[15:59] <bbrs24rr> the is no compile file
[15:59] <Lartza_> *8.04 or 8.10
[15:59] <Dreamglider_> Knoobuntu, Ok
[15:59] <garu> 8.04 LTS
[15:59] <bbrs24rr> im using the terminal and typing the command ./compile
[15:59] <tommi_> thiebaude: neither can i, my keys don't work :(
[16:00] <jxander> is there a gui for ufw?
[16:00] <amanu> Lartza_:can u tell me how to do it
[16:00] <thiebaude> tommi:and that darn smiley face, i just woke up
[16:00] <Helminthe> Dillizar: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[16:00] <Lartza_> amanu /msg NickServ help REGISTER
[16:00] <tommi_> thiebaude: ahah
[16:00] <thiebaude> !ibex
[16:00] <Helminthe> Dillizar: or, at any time, install ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop etc
[16:01] <Lartza_> so 8.04 or 8.10 and netintall or live cd?
[16:01] <zender2> my problem is this one: I installed grub on second partition so that it would not screw up with my windows partition, and copied it to C: and made boot.ini load it. So now boot ini loads first and if i choose linux in the list i get grub.. does anybody know how i can make grub boot first?
[16:01] <thiebaude> i wouldn't say lots of broken sotware
[16:01] <thiebaude> software
[16:01] <dulakian> zender2: you'd have to move grub into the master boot record of your main drive for that
[16:01] <thiebaude> !mbr
[16:02] <zender2> is mbr C: ?
[16:02] <Knoobuntu> Dreamglider, try this, you will have to substitute your own drive information, but it should be clear enough to follow. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=930255
[16:02] <zender2> im a windows default user sry :)
[16:02] <homy> I have a probelm with jw flv media player.
[16:02] <Helminthe> zender2: if your current setup works and you don't want any problems, I would suggest sticking with it. simply move the linux line up in boot.ini and done
[16:03] <bbrs24rr> sorry i meant ./configure
[16:03] <Dreamglider_> Knoobuntu,  i will give it a try thanks
[16:03] <homy> I configured it, but it doesn't work.
[16:03] <zender2> Helminthe exactly.. but i dont know how to put it as the first one
[16:03] <Helminthe> zender2: otherwise read into the grub manual
[16:03] <homy> It doesn't play my .flv video file.
[16:03] <Knoobuntu> Hope it helps, Dreamglider, best of luck!
[16:03] <homy> Even though I configured it correctly
[16:03] <Dillizar> Helminthe: i did that i have xubuntu
[16:03] <homy> Helminthe: can you help me with tis jw flv media player?
[16:04] <Helminthe> zender2: as said, open boot.ini in notepad, it's quite straightforward
[16:04] <Dillizar> Helminthe: but i dont knpw how to go from ubuntu to xubuntu
[16:04] <Helminthe> homy: sorry, no - not my area of expertise
[16:04] <bingungaja> anyone can tell me where can i get jesper for Hardy please ?
[16:04] <homy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/56677/
[16:04] <Knoobuntu> Hopefully I have done my good deed for the day... now, anyone want to try to help me with a trivial matter?  lol Kernel Panic.
[16:04] <Adys> I'm having problems outputting anything on tv screen (through svideo) with ubuntu 8.10. gdm clones the screen fine, but as soon as i log in I tried everything almost and absolutely no image gets sent (sound is fine). anyone has done this before?
[16:04] <tommi_> bingungaja: is that a program?
[16:04] <homy> I put that in as a html file, with the other stuff, also my video.flv in the same folder.#
[16:04] <Helminthe> Dillizar: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[16:04] <homy> But my video isn't displayed!
[16:05] <homy> It only displays some weird images.
[16:05] <homy> How can I get it to play my .flv video file?
[16:05] <jim_p> we back on track :P
[16:05] <Knoobuntu> Anyone have kernel panic experience?
[16:05] <homy> Anybody help me?
[16:06] <BlueEagle> Knoobuntu: I've had a few panics over the years.
[16:06] <homy> I want to play a video file in a web browser with flash
[16:06] <homy> but jw flv media player doesn't work.
[16:06] <Knoobuntu> Doesn't python handle flv?
[16:06] <Helminthe> homy: please try the documentation on http://code.jeroenwijering.com/trac, this might not be the best place to find answers for it
[16:06] <bingungaja> helminthe : i don't know, i try to launch webcam in kopete, but it stated that i need jasper to render something ...
[16:06] <jim_p> Knoobuntu: me. in virtualbox. from july to september. constant nightmare
[16:06] <BlueEagle> Knoobuntu: Mostly it's been because I missed some harddisk drivers in the kernel.
[16:06] <Dillizar> Helminthe: xubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.
[16:06] <jim_p> homy: use mplayer to play your flvs
[16:06] <Dillizar> Helminthe: i dont have to do anything i have xubuntu roght?
[16:06] <Knoobuntu> lol Oh fun.
[16:06] <homy> Helminthe: I tried it, I edited the html file and put in my information at http://paste.ubuntu.com/56677/
[16:07] <homy> jim_p: yes, but I want to play it in a webbrowser that doesn't have any plugins.
[16:07] <BlueEagle> Knoobuntu: Did you have any questions regarding kernel panic experiences or are you just conducting a survey?
[16:08] <Knoobuntu> Well, after reading some stuff, it seems like there might be three culprits.  Not sure the swap is working, nvidia jacked with the kernel and someone something about needing a specific kernel for SATA drives.
[16:08] <homy> my real problem is: I have somebdy sitting behind a firewall/proxy that only permits him to use a browser and blocks sites like youtube or google video. It also blocks .avi, .ogg, .flv and such. But it works with flash. And I want to show that person a video.
[16:08] <Knoobuntu> ^said
[16:08] <jim_p> homy: what browser is that? w3m?
[16:08] <Helminthe> Dillizar: you're all set then, just choose it when you log in (it's F10 at the login prompt)
[16:08] <homy> jim_p: a browser without extra plugins.
[16:09] <Knoobuntu> I got a kernel panic during a forced disk check, now it won't boot.
[16:09] <tommi_> homy: i believe you can't show flash to a browser without plugins
[16:09] <BlueEagle> Knoobuntu: Then the filesystem is fundamentally broken.
[16:09] <mopped> Before i ./configure, is there a way to see all missing libraries?
[16:09] <jim_p> homy: you can have a look at the source of the page, locate the flv, use wget to download it and mplayer to play it
[16:09] <Knoobuntu> But I had been reading up on it because of some lock ups prior.
[16:09] <BlueEagle> Knoobuntu: Boot a rescue disk and rescue what you can.
[16:09] <homy> I mean: it only has flash support.
[16:09] <Knoobuntu> lol Oh fun.
[16:10] <homy> jim_p: But the other person can only use a web browser without extra plugins (other than flash)
[16:10] <Knoobuntu> Eh, my home is on a separate partition... I'll reinstall.
[16:10] <BlueEagle> Knoobuntu: Most likely the fsck moved some lost clusters/sectors to lost and found.
[16:10] <jim_p> Knoobuntu: give some more info. like cpu, kernel version, mobo etc
[16:10] <bingungaja> helminthe : never mind, it find the package, it called  libjasper-runtime
[16:11] <jim_p> homy: can he see the source code?
[16:11] <rachael_> so...   how does everyone like Ubuntu,,,  i hate it
[16:11] <homy> jim_p he cant
[16:11] <Netizen-online> anyone know how to render IE via Firefox? I have IEnetRenderer firefox plugin installed but have no idea how to use it
[16:11] <Netizen-online>  http://ipinfo.info/netrenderer/index.php?page=1
[16:11] <BlueEagle> Knoobuntu: I would seriously recomend stress testing your harddrive. Also make sure that your PSU has got enough juice. I've had numerous hdd-hickups because the psu couldn't handle full load.
[16:11] <jim_p> homy: what browser is it?!??!? even ie allows you to view the source code. pm me the site and i will find you the flv url !
[16:11] <tommi_> Netizen-online: check the setting under Tools->Addons
[16:12] <homy> jim_p it is a locked down browser at a public place.
[16:12] <Netizen-online> I did... but no instruction..
[16:12] <Helminthe> homy: again, your problem is not, in any way, related to ubuntu or linux in general. please ask for help in the JW player forum, I will answer there
[16:12] <homy> jim_p: I have the flv video myself.
[16:13] <homy> But I want to show it that person who can only use the locked-down browser.
[16:13] <smelian1> i tried to mount a drive but its say mount: can't find /dev/sg2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab what i should do please
[16:13] <smelian1> /
[16:13] <jim_p> homy: upload it in youtube!
[16:13] <Helminthe> jim_p: best hint so far :)
[16:13] <homy> jim_p: thats what I thought too. But youtube and google video are blocked.
[16:13] <Knoobuntu> Intel Core 2 Duo 3GHz, MSI P7N Diamond mobo, uh... erm... Hardy Heron/KDE... I think it ended in .29.  My PSU is 800W
[16:14] <jim_p> homy: blocked?
[16:14] <Knoobuntu> 4GB RAM
[16:14] <homy> jim_p: yes, probably some kind of proxy
[16:14] <tommi_> Netizen-online: rightclick on your firefox buttons and customize your toolbar
[16:14] <tommi_> Netizen-online: there should be 3-4 netrenderer buttons you can drag to your toolbar
[16:14]  * jim_p scratches head!
[16:14] <homy> jim_p: and I can't just upload the .ogg or .avi or .mov or .flv since these file types are also blocked.
[16:15]  * homy also scratches head!
[16:15] <Helminthe> homy: there are hundreds of web sites that allow you to upload a random video file and display it in a Flash player. can you access any of them?
[16:15] <Dream-Ubu> what is the best vmware on ubuntu? :) and is free
[16:15] <homy> Helminthe: what are these other sites?
[16:16] <jim_p> homy: there is always the option for you to make a http server, make a typical webpage, find a player like youtube's to play the video and give him a url!
[16:16] <tommi_> homy: google 'youtube alternatives' - i.e. vimeo
[16:16] <homy> jim_p: exactly that is what i'm trying to do!
[16:16] <jim_p> homy: i got it!!! stream it through vlc!
[16:17] <homy> jim_p: the other person only has a web browser available.
[16:17] <jim_p> you know... this is like a puzzle game
[16:17] <usser> Dream-Ubu, theres just one thats free. vmware server
[16:17] <gluonman> My /tmp became maxed out and I'm trying to free space. I ran across an instructional that mentions clearing residual config files from synaptec and deleting unneeded kernels. When I looked at the residual config packages in synaptec and found a list of 100 packages and libraries, if I mark all of them for complete removal, it won't mess anything up, will it?
[16:17] <Netizen-online> tommi_: thanks.. but it seems it's not safe to check my hotmail. It uses a proxy-like stuff to view the site.. it's not redered directly on firefox
[16:17] <homy> jim_p: but I already told you that
[16:17] <tommi_> homy: in google "embed flv (php OR html OR RTFM)" gives greatresults :)
[16:18] <quittt> hey
[16:18] <Dream-Ubu> usser: it work on ubuntu?
[16:18] <quittt> what is hapenning to my monitor??
[16:18] <Adys> gluonman: youll be fine yeah
[16:18] <usser> Dream-Ubu, yea sure
[16:18] <quittt> I updated my system yesterday
[16:18] <quittt> and now it is using a very low resolution!
[16:18] <Adys> I'm having problems outputting anything on tv screen (through svideo) with ubuntu 8.10. gdm clones the screen fine, but as soon as i log in I tried everything almost and absolutely no image gets sent (sound is fine). anyone has done this before?
[16:18] <gluonman> Adys, thank you. Same with deleting the older versions of the linux-image, right?
[16:18] <Dream-Ubu> usser: thanks, i'll try it do i get it through apt-get?
[16:18] <Adys> gluonman: as long as you dont have a use for them yeah
[16:18] <tommi_> quittt: you were using closed sources drivers maybe?
[16:19] <Knoobuntu> Blue Eagle, jim_p, did you get that?
[16:19] <quittt> tommi_, yes, nvidia
[16:19] <haqe43> quittt: you should be able to fix that by increasing the resolution
[16:19] <theclaw> is it advantageous to use original windows DLLs in wine? and which?
[16:19] <quittt> hagabaka, I know it
[16:19] <tommi_> quittt: maybe they have been disabled when upgrading, reenable them again
[16:19] <jim_p> Knoobuntu: the compilation of your pc? yea everything seems 2.6.24 friendly
[16:19] <quittt> but if I enforce it in xorg.conf, the screen simply doesn't appear
[16:19] <quittt> no, it is not disabled
[16:19] <gluonman> Adys, I'm not aware of a use, but I'm still just learning Ubuntu (even after a year of use) and I'm not sure if anything that I'm relying on currently relies on a particular kernel that may be of an older version that my most updated one. Is there a way to determine that information?
[16:20] <thiebaude> quittt:goto screens and graphics
[16:20] <quittt> I know it!
[16:20] <Adys> gluonman: if you can boot and run your computer in the latest kernel you can delete the older ones
[16:20] <quittt> I'm not a new user
[16:20] <HoNgOuRu> hi, when I press the log off button the pop up window never appears, what is wrong??? Im using ubuntu hardy heron
[16:20] <Adys> its mostly stuff like the eeepc drivers not working in later kernels, so on
[16:20] <gluonman> Adys, alright, so the latest one is the best, then.
[16:20] <jim_p> Knoobuntu: is the cpu some E7xxx or E8xxx series?
[16:20] <usser> Dream-Ubu, its not in the repositories you have to download from vmware.com
[16:21] <gluonman> Adys, the instructional is pretty straight forward and not difficult to understand, but I just wanted to double check its safety.
[16:21] <Knoobuntu> I thought so... the flies in the ointment are the video card and possibly the second of two audio card.  nVidia 9600GT they are buggers.
[16:21] <Adys> no worry
[16:21] <unrealix> I have some problem with DHCPcd. DHCPcd don`t run automatical when network configue/reconfigue
[16:21] <Knoobuntu> E8400
[16:21] <unrealix> hwo can help me ?
[16:21] <Knoobuntu> I updated the BIOS for the E8400
[16:21] <Dream-Ubu> oki usser, thanks :)
[16:22] <jim_p> Knoobuntu: bang! that is the case! you need at least kernel 2.6.25 for full support of your cpu
[16:22] <Helminthe> Dream-Ubu: if you are looking for a free (as in speech and beer) virtual machine emulator, virtualbox looks like the most mature and easy to use.it is available in the ubuntu repos
[16:22] <venger> i've resized/moved a swap partition and it looks like the original uid is not longer valid.  how can i list the available uids or get the uid for the specific swap partition for use in /etc/fstab ?
[16:22] <jim_p> unrealix: do you use static ips?
[16:22] <Knoobuntu> Can I just stall that kernel... or am I looking at more trouble than it is worth?
[16:22] <unrealix> no
[16:22] <Knoobuntu> ^install even
[16:22] <faria_khan> hello
[16:23] <faria_khan> eth0 is not connecting on 100 mbs
[16:23] <gluonman> Adys, although, after completely removing all of those residual packages, my available space for /dev/sda1 went back to 0 after it had been 484M. This is outputted from the code df -h. Why did it happen like that? I would have thought it would be more available.
[16:23] <Netizen-online> are there anyway to check hotmail under linux?
[16:23] <tommi_> in terminal applications (xterm, rxvt, tty and gnome-terminal) the 'a' and 's' keys aren't working. i can't even paste those two letters. this problem doesn't appear if i'm root, or if i'm using other applications (e.g. vim, openoffice, irssi), or if i use terminal from another user. what could be the problem?
[16:23] <jim_p> Knoobuntu: install something that is not in the repo needs compiling. compiling a kernel needs insane amount of knowledge of what you are doing,,,
[16:23] <Knoobuntu> Hey, right quick... where can I go peek to check my kernel version... since I am using a Live CD right now... I don't know how to do that.
[16:24] <jim_p> Knoobuntu: you said that the pc booted fine before?
[16:24] <tommi_> Knoobuntu: ubuntu -a
[16:24] <usser> gluonman, you removed packages from /var/cache/apt
[16:24] <tommi_> Knoobuntu: from a term
[16:24] <jim_p> Knoobuntu: the way you are now you will only see the live cd kernel
[16:24] <Knoobuntu> lol It won't get past the forced disk check now... goes straight to kernel panic.
[16:24] <gluonman> usser, why did that make /tmp full again when it was at 98% used before I did it?
[16:24] <Helminthe> tommi_: is that your question or one pasted from earlier?
[16:24] <bebe> can anyone help me to configure sendmail and make it to work ?
[16:25] <jim_p> Knoobuntu: you said that the pc booted fine before?
[16:25] <tommi_> Helminthe: my question, i still can't find a solution (a few persons seem to have the same problem, i read on ubuntuforums)
[16:25] <usser> gluonman, tmp fills up thats what its there fro
[16:25] <usser> Knoobuntu, you have to mount your harddrive
[16:25] <tommi_> Helminthe: i.e. ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=843502
[16:25] <Knoobuntu> It booted for a while... UNTIL it did a forced disk check, now it will not boot at all.
[16:25] <reyes> ola
[16:25] <amanu> jim_p:
[16:26] <tommi_> hola reyes
[16:26] <jim_p> amanu: hi!
[16:26] <Enselic> is there a shorter command than   awk '{ print $2 }'   for priting the second column of output?
[16:26] <gluonman> usser, I guess my understanding of its function isn't complete yet. But the instructional used this, in addition to deleting unneeded kernels, as a way of clearing space and making it more available. Not filling it up.
[16:26] <reyes> de donde sois
[16:26] <tommi_> reyes: de italia, hablo un poquito de espanol - y tu?
[16:26] <tommi_> Enselic: try using an alias
[16:26] <faria_khan> eth0 is not connecting on 100 mbs
[16:27] <Helminthe> tommi_: if you run xev and press those keys, do you see the events?
[16:27] <Schuenemann> how can I delete a file from a different partition without being root?
[16:27] <Enselic> tommi_: I'd rather know of a command that works "everywhere"
[16:27] <tommi_> Helminthe: yes i do. the keys work fine in everyappliation apart from terminals
[16:27] <reyes> yo soi inglesa pero vivo en barcelona
[16:27] <tommi_> Helminthe: even apps started from a terminal work fine (i.e. vim or this irssi window)
[16:27] <Helminthe> Schuenemann: if you don't have write access on that partition as the current user - you can't
[16:28] <tommi_> Helminthe: even in tty, i can use 'a' and 's' as login uername, but as soon as i login they don't appear, and i can't even paste them
[16:28] <Agion> hi, how can I move files from ubuntu a virtual windows (virtualbox)
[16:28] <Helminthe> tommi_: now there's some serious head scratching here
[16:28] <Schuenemann> Helminthe, How can I get write access, then? I've put the 'rw' and 'user' options in /etc/fstab but nothing changed
[16:28] <Knoobuntu> I need to find my kernel version somewhere in a text file...
[16:29] <Schuenemann> Knoobuntu, uname -r
[16:29] <tommi_> Helminthe: yeah, it's pretty strange
[16:29] <c4nx> hi all
[16:29] <Knoobuntu> I am using a Live CD, Schuenemann
[16:29] <tommi_> Helminthe: what freaks me out is that if i create a new user the keys in terminals work great as usual
[16:30] <Helminthe> Schuenemann: if the partition is formatted using a filesystem Linux can manage (i.e. not ntfs), do first a chmod -R or chown -R as root on the folders you want to access
[16:30] <tommi_> Helminthe: i almost WISH it was an hardware problem :)
[16:30] <c4nx> i want help for my Wireless MAXg PC Card...
[16:30] <Schuenemann> Helminthe, it's vfat
[16:30] <c4nx> i need it's drivers
[16:30] <jim_p> Knoobuntu: the kernel is somewhere in /boot named initrd.img-blabla-blabla
[16:31] <Schuenemann> Helminthe, I don't want to use sudo everytime I want to write to it
[16:31] <Helminthe> Schuenemann: for vfat, use umask=0000 in fstab
[16:31] <Lartza_> how big swap sohuld i put?
[16:31] <Schuenemann> Helminthe, where? in options?
[16:31] <Helminthe> yes
[16:32] <amanu> Lartza_:preffered one is twise as ram
[16:32] <purplepower> Hi
[16:32] <Schuenemann> Helminthe, only that? no rw, nouser, sync, etc?
[16:32] <purplepower> amanu, where r u?
[16:32] <Lartza_> amanu: gaah!
[16:32] <Lartza_> i have 37,2gb hd so 4 from that as swap???
[16:32] <amanu> purplepower:on my bench in my home why?
[16:32] <Helminthe> Schuenemann: rw is useless, user means user can mount/dismount, not related to write access, sync is useful for removable devices like usb keys
[16:33] <Knoobuntu> Grrrr, it doesn't want to open the freekin file.
[16:33] <purplepower> us?
[16:33] <j-man> #qbranch
[16:33] <saschahl> Lartza_: depends on your system memory. 4 gb for swap seems a bit big
[16:33] <Lartza_> i have 2gb ram
[16:33] <Schuenemann> Helminthe, ok. Do I keep auto?
[16:33] <Knoobuntu> But the name implies 2.6.19
[16:33] <Helminthe> Schuenemann: auto = mount on boot
[16:33] <saschahl> Lartza_: you might not need any swap at all then
[16:33] <saschahl> Lartza_: I don't have any swap anymore with 1 GB of Ram
[16:33] <dulakian> Still good to have swap just in case, even if it's only 1g
[16:34] <Helminthe> tommi_: are you the happy owner of the first linux virus?
[16:34] <Lartza_> saschadl so ubuntu wont cry for it?
[16:34] <dulakian> it will if you fill up your ram
[16:34] <Schuenemann> Helminthe, ok, I'll keep umask=0000,user,auto and retry
[16:34] <Knoobuntu> So... I am guessing a new installation CD with the 2.6.25 kernel, huh?
[16:34] <Helminthe> Schuenemann: sound good
[16:34] <Schuenemann> brb
[16:34] <tommi_> Helminthe: ah damnihope i'm not :)
[16:35] <saschahl> Lartza_: if it cries, use like 512 MB or 1 GB. I wouldn't use more if you don't intend to use extremely memory hungry apps
[16:35] <tommi_> Helminthe: the virus reason would make sense, tho
[16:35] <yedday> evince document viewer: are there plugins which enable me to highlight/draw within a pdf file?
[16:35] <yedday> like mark important sections in text
[16:36] <drew_> hey im having a bit of trouble here, there's an invalid entry at my login screen
[16:36] <drew_> it's not a user
[16:36] <Lartza_> i mean cries when i boot not in install
[16:36] <drew_> how to get i rid of it
[16:36] <Lartza_> but im gonna boot ubuntu from usb now to install it i try to install it come here if problems
[16:37] <b3lorixx> Flash PLayer is Freezing when polaying videos in Firefox 3 any ideas?
[16:37] <pbn> Hello, how can I (re)configure the supported locales on Ubuntu 8.04 ?
[16:37] <Schuenemann> Helminthe, thanks
[16:38] <Helminthe> tommi_: try to change your login shell. from bash to whatever else you have available
[16:38] <pbn> dpkg-reconfigure locales doesn't seem to be the answer
[16:38] <Helminthe> tommi_: it should help narrow down your problem
[16:38] <Helminthe> Schuenemann: you're welcome
[16:38] <dulakian> going without swap is retarded, that means you have to monitor your ram usage, cuz if you fill it, when the kernel goes to swap and there is none, you just hard locked
[16:38] <Wrinkliez> can someone help me install my webcam (motion eye, vaio)?  I've done it before, and I know it has to do with v4l2, but for some reason no matter what driver I try to install it won't give me the /dev/video0 folder which I used to have
[16:38] <saschahl> dulakian: wrong
[16:39] <tommi_> Helminthe: yeah that's an idea, how do i check default shell? if the root and newly created user shells are different from mine that would be the problem
[16:39] <dulakian> yeah I haven't done exactly that or anything
[16:39] <saschahl> dulakian: if ram is exhausted, kernel will kill random apps to make space
[16:39] <b3lorixx> ADobe Flash Player Freezing when playing youtube videos, any ideas?
[16:39] <Helminthe> sudo joe /etc/passwd
[16:39] <saschahl> dulakian: same if ram+swap is full. why would I want to spend hours with an almost dead machine, that's busy filling swap?
[16:39] <tommi_> ok
[16:39] <Helminthe> use csh, ksh, blah
[16:39] <chaddy> b3lorixx: try restarting firefox and stopping spam
[16:40] <Helminthe> tommi_: "default".. hmm don't know
[16:40] <Helminthe> /etc/skel ?
[16:40] <Helminthe> no, not that
[16:40] <Knoobuntu> Thanks, jim_p... I guess I am off to try to figure out how to get the 2.6.25 kernel on an installation CD.
[16:41] <tommi_> Helminthe: nah, shell is bin/bash like other users
[16:41] <pookmu> I installed envy nvidia driver, but id like to increase screen resolution
[16:41] <Helminthe> tommi_: that's the idea, change it to ksh and log in again
[16:41] <jim_p> Knoobuntu: you cant install 2.6.25 on a cd!
[16:41] <tommi_> Helminthe: ah ok
[16:41] <dulakian> saschahl: the point of swap is that it can free up ram to actually have the system do something, like allow you to renice and shut down gracefully.  I think I'd prefer a sluggish system to random app quits and possible hard locking, but that's just me
[16:41] <ricardo_> hello!
[16:41] <Helminthe> tommi_: make sure you DO have ksh :)
[16:41] <tommi_> Helminthe: yeah :D
[16:42] <ricardo_> algun brazuca ae?
[16:42] <tommi_> Helminthe: i don't have it, how about dash?
[16:42] <saschahl> dulakian: well, as soon as my system begins to swap because of a memory-hogging app, my system was too sluggish to kill anything.
[16:43] <Helminthe> tommi_: is dash a shell? just apt-gt install ksh to be sure
[16:43] <pookmu> what file do i need to edit to allow 1600x1200 screen resolution?
[16:43] <ricardo_> alguem do brasil ae?
[16:43] <saschahl> dulakian: and you need to monitor ram+swap then instead of only mem. it's the same, just without swap the system heals itself faster.
[16:43] <instantsoup> Hello everyone. Is there anyone who is good at vpn related stuff?
[16:43] <tommi_> Helminthe: it's the debian shell, i'll install ksh just in case
[16:43] <dulakian> saschahl: random app quits is not healing
[16:43] <fshero> Hello all; I'm in the Kubuntu live-cd right now and I'm planning to install. My laptop is a Dell Inspiron 1525, and I plan to install in such a way as to use the MediaDirect button boot Kubuntu as described on http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3113451
[16:43] <chaddy> pookmu: use nvidia-settings
[16:43] <saschahl> dulakian: I'm unable to heal, when the system is swapping, so I'd need to wait anyway
[16:43] <fshero>  I have partitioned my hard disk as follows: primary fat16 (diagnostic stuff), primary ntfs (for Windows Vista), primary ext3 (for Kubuntu) and extended (split into a data partition, an ext3 partition for /home and a linux-swap partition). This is in order.
[16:44] <dulakian> saschahl: I think either you are very impatient, or you're running on a hdd from 1987 if swap made your system unresponsive
[16:44] <fshero> The article I posted suggested that Kubuntu ought to be installed on a primary partition. I'm okay with this as I've set up my partitions this way.
[16:44] <pookmu> chaddy there is no option for it
[16:44] <fshero> But how do I ensure that the bootloader is installed on the 3rd primary partition?
[16:44] <saschahl> dulakian: not normal swapping, but if ram is full because of a memory-hog, and it's swapping all the time, the system is down
[16:44] <fshero> But how do I ensure that the bootloader is installed on the 3rd primary partition? Is this correct?
[16:44] <Helminthe> tommi_: i shamefully admit i didn't know there was such a thing as a "debian shell"
[16:44] <chaddy> is your monitor capable of that resolution, pookmu?
[16:44] <Helminthe> tommi_: is it any good? :)
[16:44] <dulakian> saschahl: I run servers that have 3-4g of swap full all the time and I barely notice it, not sure what you got going on
[16:44] <pookmu> yes
[16:44] <tommi_> Helminthe: it's like bash but faster, good to improve boot time
[16:45] <techsupport> jrib, still aroud ? ok i got it to login , but cant ping www.google.com
[16:45] <Helminthe> tommi_: good to know, thanks
[16:45] <tommi_> Helminthe: lacks some nice things like autocompletion and colors AFAIK
[16:45] <pookmu> chaddy after I installed envy the screen resolution went down
[16:45] <techsupport> jrib, though apache is still running and i can access the website
[16:45] <chaddy> pookmu: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the one you want to edit. take a backup of it first
[16:45] <kc8pxy> fshero: i'm just walking into this blind, but if you NEED it setup that way,  why not manually grub it?
[16:45] <pookmu> chaddy thank you
[16:45] <chaddy> pookmu: envy isn't a very good thing from what I hear
[16:45] <pookmu> chaddy - other suggestions?
[16:46] <chaddy> nvidia have a website, they provide installers there
[16:46] <saschahl> dulakian: sure, but the 4gb were not filled up at once, so the system was alright. I'm just saying, if an app wants 10 gb of RAM, it will swap all the time, making your system unresponsive.
[16:46] <Helminthe> tommi_: i strongly doubt the ncurses bindings are what causes boot delays in ubuntu ;)
[16:46] <fshero> kc8pxy: how do you mean? Do you mean manuall install grub from a command-line?
[16:46] <pookmu> chaddy - ok ill try, thank you
[16:46] <instantsoup> I have a problem setting up my vpn connection to my university. When im connected to my universitys wlan network i can login without a problem with vpnc, but i cant get the external connection to work, ie. i'm connected to my own wlan and i use the login informations for external connection it just wont connect. Note: the external connection works under windows with the cisco client
[16:46] <chaddy> you would be better to learn how to use the nvidia installer if you want to use the nvidia driver
[16:46] <saschahl> dulakian: on a server it can be useful, yes, but on a client there is no need for swap if you have 2 gb. the only situation where you need that much ram is, when something is broken anyway
[16:46] <dulakian> saschahl: you're taking a situation that would happen maybe once in your entire lifetime and using it to justify running without swap.  that's not a good enough reason to go without swap
[16:46] <tommi_> Helminthe: it sleeps less, and helped me -along with other fixes- to get a 19s cold boot on my eee :)
[16:47] <unimatrix9> anyone who makes video dvd's with ubuntu ( pal )?
[16:47] <saschahl> dulakian: I don't have any reason to use swap. So why use it?
[16:47] <dulakian> saschahl: I'm sorry man, but I have been doing unix a LONG time, and running without swap is retarded
[16:47] <kc8pxy> fshero:  you need grub installed specifically in a designated place, right?
[16:47] <fshero> kc8pxy: correct
[16:47] <Helminthe> tommi_: oh, so the magic formula is to wait 0.5 seconds when the user types sleep(1) :)
[16:48] <techsupport> can someone please help me set up ntp ?
[16:48] <saschahl> dulakian: it depends on the situation and in a server with a lot of memory use I'd use swap too. On none of my workstations it makes sense, if they have enough ram
[16:48] <dulakian> saschahl: I'm not gonna go around and around, I can name a lot of situations swap is good, you can name 1 situation where swap is irrelevant
[16:48] <tommi_> Helminthe: yeah, or while the user types yes and hits enter
[16:48] <techsupport> i'm trying to do apt-get install ntp, but it returns errors
[16:48] <dulakian> saschahl: it's irresponsible of you to preach no swap to noobs, it's not good practice
[16:49] <chaddy> techsupport: what sort of errors...?
[16:49] <saschahl> dulakian: should I preach swap = 2 * ram? That's even worse practice.
[16:49] <instantsoup> noone here with vpn experience :/?
[16:49] <rallos> hi
[16:49] <dulakian> saschahl: 1-2x ram is the rule of thumb, that's not bad
[16:49] <unimatrix9> if you use eeepc, it wise to use no swap, for normal mortals , use swap ! , it cant hurt...:)
[16:49] <techsupport> chaddy, http://pastebin.com/m32e75c84
[16:49] <saschahl> dulakian: :P
[16:49] <saschahl> dulakian: ok, let's drop it all then. Let's agree to disagree.
[16:50] <rallos> can you tell me any site that i upload my terminal result ?
[16:50] <tommi_> unimatrix9: on eee why would it be wrong to use swap? to save some SSD life?
[16:50] <unimatrix9> yes
[16:50] <tommi_> unimatrix9: then you wouldn't be able to suspend/hibernate no?
[16:51] <unimatrix9> hmm, true
[16:51] <kc8pxy> fshero:  i hail from a non-ubuntu, and my motto is in this case is " if it desn't do it automagically, dig and and force it to work you way by hand " :)
[16:51] <Helminthe> tommi_ and unimatrix9: requirements for a system like eee hugely differ from what you set up on a desktop system
[16:51] <unimatrix9> power of liux, the user decides...
[16:51] <unimatrix9> linux
[16:51] <unimatrix9> :P
[16:51] <chaddy> techsupport: try a reinstall or a purge
[16:51] <Helminthe> tommi_: hybernate is a non-issue for eee
[16:52] <techsupport> chaddy, i've been trying
[16:52] <tommi_> Helminthe: why?
[16:52] <techsupport> chaddy, same errors
[16:52] <unimatrix9> anyone who makes video dvd's with ubuntu ( pal )?
[16:52] <chaddy> you could use synaptic to see if you have a broken package
[16:52] <fshero> kc8pxy: ok thx for the advice! At some point later today/this week, I'll try my method. If it still doesn't work, I'll try to manually install GRUB
[16:52] <Helminthe> tommi_: solid-state storage means very fast boot times. very very
[16:53] <tommi_> Helminthe: depends, with out of the box ubuntu-eee install it can take even  minute and half
[16:53] <Helminthe> unimatrix9: yes, any problems with that setup?
[16:53] <tommi_> Helminthe: not what i call 'fast' eh :)
[16:53] <chaddy> looks like it is the update.rc-d stage that is failing, you could try doing it manually and seeing if there is a more informative error
[16:53] <Harts> who know a good ftp server ?
[16:53] <tommi_> Harts: local ftp server?
[16:53] <chaddy> sudo update.rc-d ntp defaults
[16:53] <Harts> yes
[16:53] <kc8pxy> Harts:  good is a very relative term.
[16:54] <Helminthe> tommi_: there is definitely something else wrong. what model of eee are you testing on?
[16:54] <dulakian> Harts I have used vsftp in production but ftp is inherently insecure
[16:54] <Harts> for internet and p2p
[16:54] <unimatrix9> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[16:54] <Harts> who have one ?
[16:54] <tommi_> Helminthe: 701 white, never had this problem in 3 month of use
[16:55] <unimatrix9> diner is ready, bye all
[16:55] <tommi_> bye unimatrix9
[16:55] <tommi_> unimatrix9: for the dvd thing check google
[16:56] <venger> i have a cd that i've burned with k3b that is questionable is there some method of verifying the integrity of the cd after it has been burned?
[16:56] <Harts> so tommi give a proxy adress
[16:56] <Machtin> hey guys :) I'm looking for a good calendar-software.. any suggestions? (i already tried korganizer.. but that seems to be.. broken)
[16:56] <lucax> theres more messages saying who logsin and logs out than people asking for help, thats quite good
[16:56] <tommi_> Helminthe: known to have crappy keyboard, but since ALL keys work in other applications AND capital 'a' and 's' work as well i don't believe it's an hardware problem
[16:56] <kc8pxy> I'm trying to set up a ltsp server , for among other things, ubuntu installs. i've heard some memory equations for a gui, something like 256m base + xmb per client.   anyone here that can direct me to more accurate info?
[16:56] <tommi_> Helminthe: how about 'cal' in a terminal? :)
[16:56] <chaddy> Machtin: evolution, perhaps?
[16:57] <tommi_> Helminthe: if you use gnome you can use gnome calendar along with google calendar
[16:57] <chaddy> depends entirely what you want from a calendar, there is also cal
[16:57] <Machtin> chaddy: can that one.. for example create entries which come again every week?
[16:57] <dulakian> kc8pxy: that's a good rule but you gotta remember it's concurrent clients, not all your clients that might connect ever
[16:57] <chaddy> Machtin: I have no idea
[16:57] <Machtin> i actually don't really want a lot.. just put my appointments in there.. and when i have to go studying ;)
[16:57] <_haywire_> cya Machtin
[16:57] <chaddy> why don't you look on the internet
[16:57] <dulakian> kc8pxy: if only 3 clients would really be connected at once, you use that formula for 3 clients, even though maybe there are 6 or 8 clients total
[16:58] <Machtin> chaddy: well.. i didn't really find something.. but i'll try your suggestions :) thanks for now
[16:58] <chaddy> ;)
[16:58] <kc8pxy> dulakian: how much extra for concurrent clients?
[16:58] <Machtin> _haywire_: yah, hibye :o
[16:58] <dulakian> kc8pxy: each concurrent client would be mb per client * concurrent
[16:59] <tommi_> Machtin: try google calendar and sync it with gnome calendar and/or evolution
[16:59] <dulakian> kc8pxy: so if say you are running a 128mb image, it would be 128m*concurrent clients
[16:59] <Harts> who know a good internet ftp server ?
[16:59] <tommi_> Machtin: this way you can have your calendar from everywhere
[16:59] <tommi_> Machtin: or sync it with your mobile
[17:00] <Machtin> hmm.. ok
[17:00] <dulakian> Harts: I have used vsftp in production but ftp is insecure, be prepared to defend it or clean up after someone uses it to compromise you
[17:00] <Helminthe> tommi_: i have pupy linux on the thing, so can't replicate exactly your problem, but - have you tried bootchart?
[17:00] <chaddy> Harts: filezilla might suit you
[17:00] <mbrigdan> is there a way that I can mount an ISO image to a cdrom drive, as if I had put a CD in?
[17:00] <lucax> how can i "extra" increase the sound volume?
[17:00] <tommi_> Helminthe: yeah that's what i used
[17:00] <techsupport> i have a weired problem i can ping ip address, but cant ping domain names .....
[17:00] <Helminthe> tommi_: any hints from it?
[17:00] <chaddy> lucax: buy a bigger amp
[17:00] <chaddy> lucax: alsaconf is worth a look
[17:01] <lucax> mbrigdan, sudo mount -t iso9660 image.iso /folder
[17:01] <quittt> with key in my hand
[17:01] <quittt> I search the door
[17:01] <tommi_> Helminthe: is puppy any good? how do you upgrade and install applications, by compiling or there's a packaging maanager?
[17:01] <quittt> there is no door
[17:01] <mbrigdan> lucax: Thanks
[17:01] <lucax> chaddy, ive turned up gnome mixer volume to the highest but i dont know if alsa will help!
[17:01] <tommi_> quittt: try with the window
[17:01] <Helminthe> tommi_: it has its own packages, with online updater
[17:01] <techsupport> help anyone? please ? i have a weired problem i can ping ip address, but cant ping domain names .....
[17:01] <lucax> mbrigdan, no problem!
[17:01] <dulakian> mbrigdan: you can mount onto the loopback device: mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso
[17:01] <chaddy> lucax: have a look and see, there is a pcm setting in it
[17:01] <tommi_> Helminthe: u cool i may give it a try
[17:01] <quittt> tommi_, Carlos Drummond de Andrade!
[17:02] <chaddy> sort of like an overdrive
[17:02] <dulakian> lucax you type fast
[17:02] <lucax> chaddy, its to highest too! hehe thanks though
[17:02] <Helminthe> tommi_: and base install is.. 18 megabytes :)
[17:02] <cras1> hey! can anyone help me? i have a firefox related question?
[17:02] <zebda> hi all, i need good hint on how to install sipx on ubuntu
[17:02] <lucax> dulakian, im on a netbook so all my keys are right next to each other hehehehe
[17:02] <dulakian> techsupport: check your /etc/resolv.conf and make sure your nameservers are set
[17:02] <Helminthe> tommi_: sorry 80. with stuff like drivers, multimedia and web browser
[17:03] <tommi_> Helminthe: what scares me is having to look after dependencies and stuff like that
[17:03] <kbrosnan> !ask | cras1
[17:03] <tommi_> Helminthe: with ubuntu i waste a lot of disk space but i get a customized kernel (array.org kernel) and other optimizations
[17:03] <Helminthe> tommi_: it is a small dedicated tool. you either work with it, or you get a fully powered system. (personal opinion, of course)
[17:03] <techsupport> dulakian, cheked, looks good
[17:04] <cras1> my problem is, that a lot of times that i try to watch something on sites like youtube, surfthechannel etc. firefox simply crashes.. does any one know a solution?
[17:04] <dulakian> techsupport: do a "host yahoo.com" or something similar and see what that returns
[17:05] <chaddy> cras1: other browsers are available
[17:05] <cras1> i know however i'm used to firefox and would really like to use it
[17:05] <lucax> cras1, i had those kinda problems because of pulseaudio dont know why, i changed to alsa and it resolved
[17:05] <tommi_> Helminthe: one last q, you installed puppeee or vanilla puppy linux?
[17:06] <chaddy> cras1: if you google "ubuntu firefox flash crash" you'll find plenty to keep you going
[17:06] <Helminthe> both, over several releases
[17:06] <lucax> cras1, are u using pulse audio?
[17:06] <Xsss4hell> Hi! I've just installed Ubuntu 8.04.1 from netinstall. HOWTO update gnome and nautilus to the latest version?
[17:06] <kbrosnan> cras1: if your not using the adobe flash plugin try using that. make sure gnash and swfdec flash plugin are not installed.
[17:07] <Xsss4hell> I want gnome2.24 and I have Version: 2.22.3
[17:07] <lucax> cras1, system->preferences->sound change autodetect or pulse to alsa
[17:07] <Helminthe> tommi_: the experience varied, usually everything was reasonably ok, the latest vanilla puppy behaved best with flash player
[17:07] <tommi_> Helminthe: ok
[17:08] <zebda> how to install sipx on ubuntu?
[17:08] <Xsss4hell> I know that using intrepid in the sources.list could update it to the latest version, but it also changes many many many other things.. I do not want a dependancy problem. So Is there a howto??
[17:08] <cras1> thanks will try-
[17:08] <chaddy> Xsss4hell: you might have luck with backports
[17:08] <Xsss4hell> I`d like to have the latest ubuntu desktop, but stay at hardy^
[17:08] <lucax> zebda, sudo apt-get install sipx?
[17:09] <rcosta> como fasso para entra em outra sala??
[17:09] <ompaul> !latest | Xsss4hell
[17:09] <kraetzja> i just installed a copy of warty that was lying around, how can i setup apt-get to update everything to latest releases?
[17:09] <instantsoup> still noone who can help me with vpn?
[17:09] <zebda> thanks lucax
[17:09] <ompaul> !intrepid | Xsss4hell
[17:09] <zebda> but not like that
[17:09] <chaddy> kraetzja: probably quicker if I post you a hardy disc
[17:09] <ompaul> Xsss4hell, that is how you get the latest stuff you can get
[17:09] <Xsss4hell> ompaul: I don't want intrepid
[17:09] <rcosta> # floripa
[17:10] <zebda> have you tried it before ?
[17:10] <ompaul> Xsss4hell, then you really don't want to be doing what you are doing
[17:10] <kraetzja> chaddy, really? i can grab that, ill get it thanks
[17:10] <Helminthe> instantsoup: can you please detail your problem again?
[17:10] <ompaul> Xsss4hell, there is a long way to do something and a short way, you are choosing the long way
[17:10] <Xsss4hell> ompaul: I want hardy+ latest ubuntu-desktop, or is latest beeing considererd unstable? I`m talking about latest stable
[17:10] <pedro_> is anyone here having problems with Ubuntu Nvidia's driver?
[17:10] <monostone> How to remove device mount option in gnome? for example the 'places' sidebar of Nautilus. I can easily remove the fstab entry to avoid auto-mount on system boot, but i want to remove the option of mounting the device in gnome as well, thanks!
[17:11] <chaddy> pedro_: what sort of problems are you having?
[17:11] <lucax> zebda, if u cannot do it like that, go to the sipx web page download the .tar.gz file, then sudo apt-get install build-essentials then tar xvf file.tar.gz cd folder ./configure make sudo make install
[17:11] <ompaul> Xsss4hell, then you have that
[17:11] <pedro_> chaddy, the monitor resolution is very low
[17:11] <pedro_> and see, I'm not a new user
[17:11] <ompaul> Xsss4hell, you make your hardy unstable if you move the desktop around
[17:11] <chaddy> monostone: if it's a pron stash just unplug it
[17:11] <pedro_> I tried changing xorg.conf, etc
[17:11] <dulakian> gnome 2.22 is the latest stable
[17:11] <alpsy> okay, after hours of messing around with my xorg.conf and evdev i can't get horizontal scrolling to work on my logitech g5 mouse. any ideas?
[17:11] <pedro_> nothing worked
[17:11] <chaddy> pedro_: have you upgraded your kernel recently?
[17:11] <alpsy> the button events are all reported in xev
[17:11] <instantsoup> Sure. I tried setting up an external connection ton the vpn network of my university. When i'm logged in to the wlan on my university it works on ubuntu with vpnc, but when i'm at my own internet it doesn't work with the account details for external connection. However the external connection works under windows with the cisco vpn client
[17:11] <pedro_> chaddy, nope
[17:12] <titan_> quick question. I magnified my screen in Ubuntu by some shortcut keys, How do I undo it?
[17:12] <lucax> pedro_, whats your video card?
[17:12] <Xsss4hell> ompaul: Is hardy never gonna update to gnome2.24??
[17:12] <Helminthe> pedro_: everyone is having problems with the binary nvidia driver (not helpful, i know, just blowing off steam)
[17:12] <instantsoup> i tried using kvpnc and that does tell me it connected but nothing works
[17:12] <ompaul> Xsss4hell, never - this is not gentoo / slackware they patch and support the version that is there
[17:12] <pedro_> chaddy, Nvidia GeForce 4 MX
[17:12] <zebda> lucax: thanks alot
[17:12] <lucax> titan_, alt + mouse wheel?
[17:12] <Xsss4hell> ompaul: I dislike replacing a working system just to obtain another gnome version
[17:13] <dulakian> then switch to gentoo or slack
[17:13] <pedro_> yesterday it was ok
[17:13] <pedro_> the problem started today
[17:13] <titan_> That's changing the brightness of my screen >><
[17:13] <ompaul> Xsss4hell, well the tight integration is what you got, it is the design
[17:13] <Wavesonics> hhmm... there is probably no way to upgrade an Ubuntu instalation from 32bit to 64bit huh?
[17:13] <lucax> zebda, no problem!! if problem pm me
[17:13] <Helminthe> instantsoup: sorry, the Cisco VPN protocol is not familiar, not sure if it is supported at all in Linux
[17:13] <chaddy> pedro_: I'd try rerunning the nvidia installer
[17:13] <titan_> OH I got it!
[17:13] <synn> that eeepc is cool
[17:13] <Xsss4hell> Wavesonics: no
[17:13] <synn> i never seen one
[17:13] <jrib> Wavesonics: reinstalling
[17:13] <pedro_> chaddy, I'm using Ubuntu's driver
[17:13] <titan_> thanks Lucax, that made my try Start key + wheel
[17:13] <Helminthe> instantsoup: swan or openvpn, i'd be glad to help
[17:14] <chaddy> ahh, I see
[17:14] <Wavesonics> jrib, could I reinstall just the OS maybe?
[17:14] <Wavesonics> na
[17:14] <Wavesonics> nvm
[17:14] <Wavesonics> crap :/
[17:14] <jrib> Wavesonics: if you're /home is on a different partition, sure
[17:14] <chaddy> sorry pedro_ I'm not as Free as all that, I know very little about it
[17:14] <zelrikriando> it seems like I cannot read wma's with Amarok Oo
[17:14] <Xsss4hell> Wavesonics: just use the netinstall method or download the ubuntu cd ;) netinstall has the advantage that you are up2date
[17:14] <lucax> titan_, no problem!! i got stock there too once hehe
[17:14] <instantsoup> well i got the cisco client from our network admins for linux, but that won't install for some reason, but vpnc should theoretically work :/ oh well thanks anyway
[17:14] <alpsy> even after messing with my xorg.conf and evdev i can't get horizontal scrolling to work on my logitech g5 mouse. any ideas? the button events are all reported in xev
[17:14] <Owner> Hello, I need some more help. A lot of of it too. I attempted to use a Windows XP recovery disk on a computer that was using Ubuntu to bring XP back onto it. The recovery disk didn't work but that's not exactly why I'm here. When I put the Ubuntu 8.04 LTS live CD back in and tried installing it I get one of two things. A) GRUB Error 77 B) Device I/O Problem Logical Block 70379 [[this will...
[17:15] <Owner> ...continue down the numbers.]]. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[17:15] <unop> instantsoup, what does "won't install" mean exactly?
[17:15] <instantsoup> uh one sec
[17:15] <lucax> euzao, did u solve the resolution problem?
[17:15] <chaddy> euzao: I'd try /joining nvidia
[17:15] <chaddy> you might find you can get some help there
[17:15] <jrib> alpsy: did you enable it in firefox?
[17:15] <euzao> nope
[17:15] <euzao> I joined it
[17:15] <chaddy> s/nvidia/#nvidia
[17:15] <Xsss4hell> ompaul: OK, tight integration yah? I really need boost library >=1.35 wtf has boost to do with integration?? I need it for programming and lyx depends on it
[17:16] <Xsss4hell> ompaul: only intrepid features boost 1.35
[17:16] <lucax> euzao, probably u aint using the correct drivers, did u try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx? instead of regular drivers?
[17:16] <euzao> if change nvidia to nv, it runs normally
[17:16] <zelrikriando> how to read wma formats?
[17:16] <euzao> without gl support, of course
[17:16] <euzao> lucax, how can it be? it was working yesterday...
[17:16] <lucax> zelrikriando, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:16] <jrib> alpsy: mousewheel.horizscroll.withnokey.action should be 0 in about:config
[17:17] <instantsoup> always get a "Failed to make module "cisco_ipsec.ko"
[17:17] <chaddy> zelrikriando: vlc
[17:17] <dulakian> Xsss4hell: hardy supports boost 1.34,  if you have to have 1.35 you would need to move to intrepid, the same as gnome 2.24
[17:17] <instantsoup> and a bunch of other errors
[17:17] <zelrikriando> lucax, it's installed already
[17:17] <chaddy> also look into restricted formats
[17:17] <zelrikriando> chaddy, I want to use Amarok though
[17:17] <clayg> is there any way to have itunes on my XP partition and still be able to interact with my Ipod in ubuntu, without it erasing all the songs?
[17:17] <chaddy> I want the moon on a stick, I'm still waiting
[17:18] <dulakian> Xsss4hell: it sounds like you would be happier with gentoo or slack, their update policy is "in place" the way you seem to want it
[17:18] <lucax> euzao, im just trying to guess why u cant change resolution, u should do it easly from system->preferences->screen resolution if u have correct drivers, or u can reconfigure xorg...
[17:18] <Xsss4hell> dulakian: tell me what boost has to do with the operating system! nothing! why the hell don't you update it?
[17:18] <lucax> zelrikriando, let me check
[17:18] <alpsy> jrib: uhm i guess i didn't :p it does scroll now, but the buttons seem to be inverted
[17:18] <euzao> lucax, it doesn't show the 1024 option
[17:18] <thiebaude> hi jrib
[17:18] <jrib> alpsy: use xmodmap to fix that (HWHEEL in xorg.conf used to work, but I'm not sure now)
[17:18] <mosiac> so quick question what command lets me see what usb devices are currently connected to my machine?
[17:18] <jrib> thiebaude: hey
[17:18] <dulakian> Xsss4hell: because ubuntu is based on a different kind of update, where you don't change version numbers in mid-release
[17:18] <zelrikriando> lucax, it works with rythmbox :)
[17:18] <Xsss4hell> dulakian: I understand the philosophy of tight integration and a well balanced system. But boost has really nothing to do with it. Or plays a very very minimal role.
[17:19] <jrib> mosiac: lsusb
[17:19] <zelrikriando> I'd like Amarok though
[17:19] <euzao> where is the history of apt in the files?
[17:19] <dulakian> Xsss4hell: the distro either follows it's strict update policy, or it doesn't, ubuntu happens to follow it
[17:19] <euzao> the history I mean installation, uninstalation etc
[17:19] <dulakian> Xsss4hell: again, you sound like you really should be on gentoo or slack
[17:19] <chaddy> mosiac: lsusb
[17:19] <mosiac> thanks jrib now is there a site to find out which usb wireless devices work in ubuntu?
[17:19] <lucax> euzao, ammmmmm..... login ubuntu in recovery mode... select fix x then see what happens
[17:19] <chaddy> whoops, got quite badly beaten to that one
[17:20] <Helminthe> clayg: from what documentation is available on the Apple copy-protection, I say this is a definite no
[17:20] <thiebaude> !usb
[17:20] <instantsoup> i think the error is related to my kernel header
[17:21] <lucax> zelrikriando, ive checked on net about ur problem and they all say ubuntu-restricted-extras should do i
[17:21] <lucax> t
[17:21] <Datz> Hi, all of the sudden my media player in Ubuntu stopped working, now when I try to play a file, it just sits there. any suggestions??
[17:21] <zelrikriando> hmm
[17:21] <chaddy> Datz: is it exaile?
[17:21] <lucax> zelrikriando, what program and u using for playin sounds?
[17:21] <zelrikriando> lucax, I can play wma's...just not on Amarok, I have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed
[17:21] <Dan_> Hey, I just installed apache2 and uploaded my files via ftp but when I look at them, they don't show up correctly and there aren't any pictures that should be there.
[17:21] <ichbinesderelch> Datz: run the programm from terminal and whach out for the error message
[17:21] <alpsy> jrib: oh btw, there seem to be issues with xmoto in fullscreen and evdev.. the mouse just sticks in the bottom right corner and is pretty much uncontrollable
[17:22] <lucax> zelrikriando, kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:22] <Xsss4hell> dulakian hmm maybe
[17:22] <Datz> chaddy, it is Ubuntu's default, and vlc didn't work either
[17:22] <dulakian> Xsss4hell: there is nothing wrong with gentoo or slack, both good distros, they seem like they might be a better fit for what you want is all
[17:22] <lucax> zelrikriando, just a guess, try it
[17:22] <chaddy> Datz: as ichbinesderelch said
[17:22] <dulakian> Xsss4hell: I'm not trying to turn you off ubuntu, but it's all about choice, and figuring out what fits you best
[17:23] <Xsss4hell> dulakian: I'm a student and programmer. But I use ubuntu because, I like the philosopy and it's easy and efficient. so would recommend gentoo to me?
[17:23] <Datz> ichbinesderelch, chaddy, thanks guys sorry, I was trying to access the files shared through a network, and I guess permissions were not set right.
[17:23] <ToddEDM> anyone here use ubuntu AND Linux Mint?.. im wondering what the diference is between the 2
[17:24] <Helminthe> Dan_: we'd need a few more details on what went wrong to help you
[17:24] <dulakian> Xsss4hell: gentoo is not as easy but it works as well, it allows you to mix and match where ubuntu is fairly rigid in a single release
[17:24] <schuyler_> how do i execute a .diff file?
[17:24] <dulakian> Xsss4hell: gentoo is a good distro if you like to tinker and keep up on the bleeding edge
[17:24] <schuyler_> how do i execute a .diff file?
[17:25] <[Solars]> can *.7z.* files be unzipped from the CLI ?
[17:25] <Xsss4hell> dulakian: lyx 1.6 depends on boost. And I'd like to use some features introduced in boost 1.36. I could build/install it. or use intrepid sources install and switch back to hardy..
[17:25] <chaddy> Datz: no worries, glad you fixed it ;)
[17:25] <dulakian> Xsss4hell: gentoo has a major disadvantage when switching releases, they do not seem to respect downwards compatibility much, I couldn't handle that very well at all
[17:25] <Dan_> I can open the files via 'localhost/the file name but when they open the picture that should show up don't, I've tested the pages on other servers and it has worked fine.
[17:25] <Datz> chaddy, I may be wrong about fixing it, going to try what was suggested
[17:25] <ToddEDM> !download ubuntu
[17:25] <Helminthe> schuyler_: short version - you open a terminal, go into the directory of the application you want to modify, and run 'patch -p0 < file.diff' then recompile
[17:25] <foormat> a
[17:25] <lucax> !diff
[17:25] <dulakian> Xsss4hell: you can for sure install the newest boost from sources, I would do that before going to intrepid for a single package
[17:26] <foormat> Hello all!)
[17:26] <Helminthe> schuyler_: long version - you should know how to build an application, this is not a straightforward process
[17:26] <chaddy> hi foormat
[17:26] <schuyler_> Helminthe: in kubuntu would that be Konsole?
[17:26] <dulakian> Xsss4hell: gnome is a bit different, with all the dependencies you would quickly get overwhelmed, but boost should be trivial
[17:27] <Dan_> Ha, I beat it!
[17:27] <Helminthe> schuyler_: again, if you are not familiar with the process of building an application from source, best to avoid this
[17:27] <BoomShaka> hi, can some1 tell me the command to delete a folder that has contents?
[17:27] <Xsss4hell> dulakian: but it's much easier and faster to switch to intrepid's sources just to update boost, then back to hardy. Would that damage dependancies or change hardy to ubuntu "mixed"?
[17:27] <dulakian> Xsss4hell: no idea, it depends on the reverse deps for boost
[17:28] <Xsss4hell> dulakian: true, about gnome
[17:28] <foormat> Hi,chaddy)
[17:28] <schuyler_> I was having trouble using my ntfs drive to retreieve some files, then i found kubuntu_06_user_disk_mounting.diff
[17:28] <Xsss4hell> dulakian: boost has no deps and all apps dependant on boost could work with a new version i think
[17:29] <ompaul> Xsss4hell, this is offtopic for here, why you may ask, because it is beyond the scope of the stable release and getting a stable release working, if the version you want is not with it, then you take the chance, if it breaks, you get to keep all the pieces
[17:29] <oxide> Bonjour!
[17:29] <dulakian> Xsss4hell: I am not gonna say "this will work" cuz I never did it, but it sounds like an fairly safe operation
[17:29] <Datz> chaddy, ichbinesderelch,  It turns out, firefox was frozen, or just not willing to close, when I killed the process for firefox, my media started working correcly again.  Actually this is not the firest time I have seen this behavior.
[17:29] <Skypers> oxide: salut
[17:29] <dulakian> oh I like that, out of the scope of stale release
[17:29] <foormat> You are here as saying?) There are interesting questions's Ubuntu?
[17:29] <dulakian> I'm so stealing that
[17:30] <jim_p> does anyone know how to make plots with qalculate? i dont know how to make a function like f(x)=x^2
[17:30] <chaddy> Datz: fair enough
[17:30] <Xsss4hell> dulakian I did it once,nothing bad happened..
[17:30] <Datz> chaddy, wonder if it is a new issue, or just some configuration on my system?
[17:30] <bingungaja> anyone know what apt can i get in ubuntu for a "stick it note" ?
[17:30] <Xsss4hell> dulakian: I asked beacause I wanted to be sure and have the opinion of experts
[17:30] <Helminthe> schuyler_: an untested file system driver can completely erase all your data. this is not a intended feature :) but you really don't want to be a beta-tester
[17:31] <Skypers> can someone help me ?
[17:31] <Datz> chaddy, anyways, thanks for your help, bye
[17:31] <Helminthe> schuyler_: boot a windows system, run chkdsk on the files, much safer
[17:31] <chaddy> no idea, Datz, sorry; I'm not finding firefox very stable these days myself
[17:31] <foormat> Skypers?
[17:31] <LuYu> is there a way to upgrade to hardy from the commandline?
[17:31] <foormat> What help?
[17:31] <Skypers> I don't remember how to connect to irc.epiknet.org on XChat
[17:31] <foormat> I too
[17:31] <Xsss4hell> how about pulseaudio will it replace alsa?? Because it's default in ubuntu now.  Or is it the same story as gnome/kde?
[17:31] <amenado> LuYu--> why do you believe you need to upgrade?
[17:32] <Helminthe> schuyler_: s/files/volume/
[17:32] <ompaul> Skypers, /server servername
[17:32] <Dan_> so...
[17:32] <Skypers> ompaul: I'm trying ...
[17:32] <LuYu> well, because the packages i want:  the XO geode video driver and the sugar packages are all in hardy
[17:32] <Xsss4hell> LuYu: yes sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:33] <Xsss4hell> LuYu: yes sudo apt-get install dist-upgrade
[17:33] <LuYu> dist-upgrade just attempts to replace my kernel
[17:33] <BoomShaka> hi. can someone tell me the command to delete a directory that is NOT empty?
[17:33] <zelrikriando> lucax, I fixed it by installing : libxine1-gnome
[17:33] <amenado> LuYu--> if it was me, i'd do a fresh install, upgrade seems to be a bit problematic at times, but you will learn something
[17:33] <LuYu> install dist-upgrade
[17:33] <LuYu> okay
[17:33] <LuYu> ill try that
[17:33] <skypers> ompaul: nop ^^
[17:33] <ryan_> What is the best Ubuntu ftp client.  I am looking for something that has a barebones interface.
[17:33] <LuYu> well, SD installs are really hard to do
[17:33] <ompaul> skypers, where yiou are now type /server servername
[17:33] <Xsss4hell> LuYu: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[17:33] <LuYu> and i would rather not go through like 10 steps again now that ive generated a usable image
[17:34] <samuel_> hi gents
[17:34] <amenado> LuYu--> SD? those tiny disk?
[17:34] <Skypers> ompaul: ?
[17:34] <samuel_> any software developers around? particularly C/C++?
[17:34] <Helminthe> BoomShaka: in case anyone suggests rm -fr - don't use it blindly. install a file manager like mc (midnight commander) and use th F8 key
[17:34] <ompaul> Skypers, to join some $server
[17:34] <amenado> LuYu--> well like the fortune cookie says, you may lead an exciting life, <wink>
[17:34] <Skypers> yeah ?
[17:34] <Xsss4hell> samuel_: if you've got a problem in your code, ask #c++
[17:35] <LuYu> yeah
[17:35] <Helminthe> ryan_: ncftp ?
[17:35] <samuel_> i have a particluar question about IDEs
[17:35] <BoomShaka> Helminthe, thx for the warning]
[17:35] <LuYu> well, the disk is 2GB
[17:35] <LuYu> anyway, im going to test the upgrade before i try it on my 8GB drive
[17:35] <Skypers> ompaul: I type in the dialog bar /join #canal to join a canal in a server
[17:35] <samuel_> more of a personal thing i know, but i also want to know about toolchains, being a new developer...
[17:35] <Xsss4hell> LuYu: which ubuntu version are you using?
[17:35] <Skypers> but to join server, I configure the client
[17:35] <smm289> Using Hardy - I want to format a Floppy using Gnome, I expected the floppy formatter tool to be in the systems tools menu but its not, how am I supposed to format a floppy under gnome
[17:35] <amenado> LuYu--> good luck and let us know how it went
[17:35] <LuYu> you know, the XO only has like 256MB, right?
[17:35] <Skypers> but don't remember how lawl
[17:36] <LuYu> should be 7.10
[17:36] <LuYu> hahaha
[17:36] <LuYu> well, i have the image
[17:36] <shawna> I have a big problem. I was instructed to remove old kernels and keep my most updated kernel. So I searched linux-image in synaptec and deleted the older ones and kept my latest one. The only problem is that after restarting, my computer no longer even recognizes my wireless card.
[17:36] <homy> hello. how can I convert a .mp3 audio file into a .flv video file (with blank images)
[17:36] <LuYu> so, if it goes awry, i can just write over it
[17:36] <ompaul> Skypers, yes when you are on that server
[17:36] <LuYu> but dd takes 30 minutes to do so
[17:36] <Xsss4hell> LuYu guty was a good one. but hardy is also ok, there should be no problems if you didn't experiment to much with your system
[17:36] <chaddy> homy: mplayer can probably do that for you
[17:37] <LuYu> hard to say
[17:37] <samuel_> what exactly is a toolchain?
[17:37] <Xsss4hell> LuYu: my cousin updated from gutsy to hardy and he has no clue about comps
[17:37] <amenado> shawna--> did it even worked before you erased the okd one?
[17:37] <shawna> amenado, it's been working happily for a year. It was out-of-the-box friendly with Ubuntu.
[17:37] <amenado> old*
[17:37] <chaddy> samuel_: it's a chain of tools that depend on each other to achieve some goal
[17:37] <LuYu> the last time i brought up a problem here, i got a shocked response because i was using the OLPC kernel
[17:37] <samuel_> which tools do you use, and how??
[17:37] <Xsss4hell> samuel_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_toolchain next time try to use a search engine ;)
[17:37] <amenado> shawna--> which chip does your wifi have?
[17:38] <homy> chaddy: how do I do that with mplayer?
[17:38] <LuYu> well, on my desktop, i ran into that hitch with the localeconfig
[17:38] <LuYu> that was painful
[17:38] <shawna> amenado, it's a D-Link WNA-2330.
[17:38] <amanu> i messed up with my apt-get in /var/cahe/apt/archieves now i cant download any from terminal
[17:38] <amenado> shawna--> usb dongle like?
[17:38] <samuel_> i did, i didn't find the article particularly helpful, i know what a toolset is, but which tools do you use for C/C++ development?
[17:39] <shawna> amenado, huh?
[17:39] <chaddy> homy: I don't know, if you google you might find someone has left an mplayer line you can modify
[17:39] <homy> what command do I have to run to convert .mp3 music file to .flv video file?
[17:39] <Xsss4hell> I really like that you changed to netinstall ubuntu folks :)
[17:39] <chaddy> or you could ask in #mplayer
[17:39] <LuYu> that link you guys gave me is all GUI
[17:39] <amenado> shawna--> usb plug in or pci card?
[17:39] <tv7497> ﻿guys i need a little help well while  installing oracle i am stuck at step nine of this tutorial http://www.pythian.com/blogs/968/installing-oracle-11g-on-ubuntu-804-lts-hardy-heron its telling that display variable is not set little help please :)
[17:39] <Xsss4hell> like debian
[17:39] <shawna> amenado, oh, it's a PCI card.
[17:39] <homy> chaddy: I only find .flv to .mp3, not the other way around.
[17:39] <jim_p> does anyone know how to make plots with qalculate? i dont know how to make a function like f(x)=x^2
[17:39] <LuYu> there really are no command line operations for an upgrade to gutsy, are there?
[17:39] <amenado> shawna--> is the driver loaded? what have you done to troubleshoot your wifi connectivity?
[17:40] <LuYu> "install dist-upgrade" doesnt work either
[17:40] <smm289> Floppy Format, does anyone have it listed in their hardy menues
[17:40] <LuYu> there must be a command for this
[17:40] <amanu> i messed up with my apt-get in /var/cahe/apt/archieves now i cant download any from terminal
[17:40] <smm289> Google says it should be under system tools
[17:40] <amenado> LuYu it was already provided to you, you were not paying attention?
[17:40] <Xsss4hell> LuYu: Why Commandline?? You can do it like I posted, with a nice gui^!
[17:40] <CaBlGuY> ok, my GF wants me to help her in quickbooks. if I copy the file from her PC what can I use to open it on my laptop? I'm running Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy...
[17:40] <chaddy> LuYu: edit /etc/apt/sources.list to include gutsy source, aptitude update, aptitude upgrade
[17:40] <LuYu> im running in qemu, and the GUI doesnt start properly
[17:40] <LuYu> well, thats wrong
[17:40] <LuYu> xdm starts fine
[17:40] <lesergi> hi all, I've installed Deluge Torrent and I want to associate torrent files with Deluge in Firefox, but I don't know how
[17:40] <amanu> im getting a error E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[17:41] <shawna> amenado, well, I was just trying to free up some space, and someone advised me to get rid of any kernel I have that isn't my latest assuring that it shouldn't do any harm. I just restarted after doing that, and I haven't done anything yet to solve the problem. I just wanted to ask about what I should do.
[17:41] <LuYu> but the desktop takes more memory than i allocated
[17:41] <CaBlGuY> !quickbooks
[17:41] <amanu> some one help mee
[17:41] <amanu> im getting a error E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[17:41] <tv7497> did anyone see my post i know the channel is too crowded but little help guys :)
[17:41] <chaddy> amanu: why don't you run the command it suggests?
[17:41] <LuYu> in the sources, can i just change all the gutsy's to hardy's?
[17:41] <LuYu> :)
[17:41] <amenado> shawna--> well for one, start troubleshooting and look if the driver is loaded and such
[17:41] <CaBlGuY> amanu:  sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:41] <chaddy> LuYu: as I understand it, it's not the ubuntu way, though
[17:41] <Xsss4hell> LuYu: ok
[17:41] <CaBlGuY> try the first one first..
[17:41] <amanu> chaddy:i runned butu no use
[17:41] <chaddy> if might get messy
[17:42] <Dan_> Okay, I just installed apache2 on my ubuntu server and uploaded my files to /var/www via ftp. When I browsed to them via localhost/file I didn't see any of the pictures that were linked to the page. I have the permissions for the fold set to 666 but it still doesn't work. Any ideas?
[17:42] <chaddy> amanu: do you think the error from that might help us to help you?
[17:42] <jesus_> please I need help when I try to launch any application I get this error
[17:42] <chaddy> Dan_: you might want them in /var/www/http/
[17:42] <jesus_> Will not save configuration.
[17:42] <jesus_> Configuration file "/home/jesus/.kde/share/config/k9copyrc" not writable.
[17:42] <jesus_> Configuration file "/home/jesus/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals" not writable.
[17:42] <jesus_> Please contact your system administrator.
[17:42] <FloodBot3> jesus_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:43] <chaddy> think the docroot is different on rpm systems
[17:43] <eli_> UGh, my when I connect my monitor via DVI it detects the wrong resolutions
[17:43] <jesus_> sorry
[17:43] <amanu> chaddy:so what can i do?
[17:43] <shawna> amenado, I'm not finding any driver, so I'm guessing it's not loaded.
[17:43] <Dan_> So I should make a file named http and put them there
[17:43] <amenado> shawna--> okay, then yeah try to load it
[17:43] <amanu> now i am unable to install or download any thing from termianl
[17:43] <chaddy> amanu: give us the error that dpkg gives you
[17:43] <amanu> ok
[17:43] <shawna> amenado, I'm not sure how to do that. I've never had to do that. It just worked out of the box the whole time I've been using it.
[17:44] <smm289> is anyone capable of right clicking on their 3.5" drive and selecting Format Floppy.  Thats what the hardy help is telling me to do, but there is no Format Floppy option
[17:44] <smm289> Hardy
[17:44] <amenado> shawna--> time to roll the sleeves and get dirty..hehe
[17:44] <CaBlGuY> amanu:  what error do you get if you try the terminal??
[17:44] <shawna> amenado, lol. Yes. Linux puts me to work from time to time.
[17:44] <chaddy> smm289: I don't own a floppy drive, sorry
[17:44] <amenado> shawna--> you have internet access now, same box?
[17:44] <jesus_> can any one help me please ?
[17:44] <shawna> amenado, no. I'm talking to you on a different box which is not the problem box.
[17:44] <Guest16904> hi
[17:44] <amanu> CaBlGuY:here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/56710/
[17:45] <jesus_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/56709/
[17:45]  * CaBlGuY looks
[17:45] <amanu> chaddy::here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/56710/
[17:45] <Guest16904> hi any sexy girl
[17:45] <Xsss4hell> lol
[17:45] <smm289> I dont usually, but I have this one floppy disk I need to copy and i'm using a USB external floppy.  I want to use DD ti make an image of the source disk, but I want to practice on a test disk, but I can't even format a floppy :(
[17:46] <amenado> shawna--> start looking for you driver in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/
[17:46] <chaddy> amr: get a grip of yourself
[17:46] <Lartza_> i am trying to install ubuntu without cd but afaik my bios cant boot my ipod with ubuntu live installed
[17:46] <amanu> now i am unable to install or download any thing from termianl
[17:46] <shawna> amenado, alright.
[17:46] <amenado> smm289--> man  fdisk
[17:46] <amanu> im getting a error E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[17:46] <shawna> amr, this is not a place to pick up chicks.
[17:46] <Lartza_> so what are the options? is there netinstall or floppy ot boot usb from
[17:46] <Dan_> chaddy: putting the items in the folder didn't do anything.
[17:46] <ichbinesderelch> amanu: run "kpg --configure -a"
[17:46] <smm289> amenado: ya know a way to do it under gnome ?
[17:46] <BlueEagle> amanu: and when you attempt to run that command?
[17:46] <ichbinesderelch> *dpkg
[17:46] <CaBlGuY> ok amanu: Looks like you still need ssome Libs installed to run the package....  did you install it using synaptic?
[17:47] <amr> what is this room for?????
[17:47] <BlueEagle> !ubuntu
[17:47] <CaBlGuY> amr:  supprt
[17:47] <BlueEagle> !#ubuntu
[17:47] <amenado> smm289--> i dont use gui that much for sys admin work, mostly cli,
[17:47] <amr> thanx
[17:47] <BlueEagle> hmm..
[17:47] <CaBlGuY> in the mean time...  anyone help me with my quickbooks issue??
[17:47] <amanu> CaBlGuY:yes even at synaptic if i try it will download but result a error at lat
[17:48] <amenado> smm289--> time to learn the command line  commands
[17:48] <CaBlGuY> amanu:  ok, sounds like you needs to add some repos to your install..
[17:48] <CaBlGuY> !repos
[17:48] <CaBlGuY> read that
[17:48] <eli_> Whose really good with nvidia drivers?
[17:48] <amanu> ichbinesderelch:amanu@amanu-laptop:~$ kpg --configure -a bash: kpg: command not found
[17:48] <BlueEagle> CaBlGuY: I missed your question, mind repeating it?
[17:48] <smm289> I love ubuntu, but this is a negative check mark, the Gnome manual says I should be able to right click on the drive icon and select format, but its not working, I'm guessing because its a usb floppy drive
[17:48] <BlueEagle> amanu: dpkg
[17:48] <Lartza_> i am trying to install ubuntu without cd but afaik my bios cant boot my ipod with ubuntu live installed, so what are the options? is there netinstall or floppy ot boot usb from?
[17:49] <shawna> amenado, when I try to gedit /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ it just tells me that ... is a directory, please check that you typed the location correctly and try again.
[17:49] <pissendlove> hello
[17:49] <ichbinesderelch> amanu: misspelled, "dpkg --configure -a"
[17:49] <DefunctProcess> Anyone know how to get my Fn+F2 wireless/bluetooth toggle key to work? I'm on Hardy my laptop is Asus C90s?????
[17:49] <shawna> amenado, I'll just try using nautilus
[17:49] <CaBlGuY> BlueEagle: nope,  My GF wants me to help her with her quickbooks stuff  so, what is my best option to be able to do that? copy the file, or install QB or a substitute on my lap?
[17:49] <amanu> BlueEagle:here the out put is http://paste.ubuntu.com/56710/
[17:50] <amanu> CaBlGuY:any suggestions
[17:50] <amenado> shawna--> you are not going to edit a directory, thats a directory you are looking at
[17:50] <CaBlGuY> smm289:  I don't believe u will be able to format a thumb drive no...
[17:50] <BlueEagle> CaBlGuY: did you google: quickbook ubuntu ?
[17:50] <amenado> shawna learn to use ls
[17:50] <amanu> CaBlGuY:there is a story behind this error
[17:50] <slipttees> hi
[17:50] <CaBlGuY> amanu: read the repos stuff and go from there
[17:50] <Dan_> Anyone? I just installed apache2 on my ubuntu server and uploaded my files to /var/www via ftp. When I browsed to them via localhost/file I didn't see any of the pictures that were linked to the page. I have the permissions for the fold set to 666 but it still doesn't work. Any ideas?
[17:50] <slipttees> howto for mount file *.md in ubuntu ?
[17:51] <shawna> amenado, I realize that now that I'm looking at the folder. For some reason I was thinking it was a script with a list of modules on it.
[17:51] <amanu> CaBlGuY:where to read?
[17:51] <BlueEagle> amanu: are you running on the live cd?
[17:51] <eli_> hey can anyone help with this problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=943995
[17:51] <CaBlGuY> BlueEagle: yes sir...  and didn't find anything helpful so, here I iz.. :p
[17:51] <amanu> lueEagle:no
[17:51] <CaBlGuY> !tell amanu repos
[17:51] <amanu> BlueEagle:no
[17:51] <slipttees> ubuntu mount .md file ?
[17:51] <chaddy> amanu: start at the start, refer to wikipedia and google for terms you don't understand
[17:51] <amenado> Dan_--> you need to look at how your apache is configured,  where is the Root Directory and such
[17:51] <CaBlGuY> !amanu repos
[17:51] <shawna> amenado, in any case, within the 2.6.24-19-generic there is a folder named madwifi that I'm guessing might have to do with my PCI card.
[17:51] <CaBlGuY> dangit.. :-/
[17:51] <hh> fuk
[17:51] <CaBlGuY> someon do that 4 me please..
[17:52] <CaBlGuY> :p
[17:52] <hh> leetw.net
[17:52] <hh> k
[17:52] <Lartza_> i am trying to install ubuntu without cd but afaik my bios cant boot my ipod with ubuntu live installed, so what are the options? is there netinstall or floppy ot boot usb from?
[17:52] <DJones> CaBlGuY: I tried quickbooks on linux about 18 momnths ago using wine, couldn't get anything working
[17:52] <hh> use wuby
[17:52] <hh> :p
[17:52] <jesus_> please anyone help me , I am getting this error , there was an error setting up inter-process comminication for kde, the message returned by the system was, could not read network connection list, /home/jesus/.DCOPserver_ubuntu_0, please check that the dcopserver program is running
[17:52] <amanu> !repos
[17:52] <amenado> shawna--> possibly if your card uses madwifi drivers, if not for it, its just installed as other packages
[17:52] <amanu> CaBlGuY:i got it
[17:52] <CaBlGuY> DJones: I've read where u can use wine to do it but, I was hopin open office would give me something I could use..
[17:52] <CaBlGuY> amanu: okey..
[17:52] <chaddy> Lartza_: you can netinstall, aiui
[17:52] <Dan_> amenado: Is that under the apache2.conf file under etc/apache2?
[17:53] <Lartza_> chaddy: how?
[17:53] <shawna> amenado, what's the next step from here?
[17:53] <amenado> Dan_--> yes
[17:53] <chaddy> Lartza_: the normal way
[17:53] <Dan_> Okay, I'll take a look.
[17:53] <jesus_> anyone, anyone ???
[17:53] <DJones> CaBlGuY: I would think openoffice certainly won't be able to, I'm pretty sure it uses  multiple bespoke database files that all get updated at different times as part of one process
[17:53] <amenado> shawna--> figure out what chip your wifi card uses and make sure the matching driver is located in the dir/subdir  i mentioned
[17:53] <chaddy> Lartza_: http://mediakey.dk/~cc/ubuntu-netboot-and-netinstall-with-pxe/ this might be a start point
[17:54] <chaddy> jesus_: did you check to see if dcopserver was running?
[17:54] <amenado> Dan_--> kindly do an apache tutorial so you'd be able to figure out those directives
[17:54] <CaBlGuY> DJones:  researching now..
[17:54] <amanu> BlueEagle:here the out put is http://paste.ubuntu.com/56710/
[17:54] <BlueEagle> amanu: It looks to me that you're having a seriously broken system. Have you had a harddisk crash? Are all partitions mounted?
[17:55] <shawna> amenado, it uses an atheros chipset.
[17:55] <BlueEagle> amanu: Please be patient. I got the link the first time but I am a tad busy researching the quickbooks issue for CaBlGuY
[17:55] <DigitalFiz> Dan_, in otherword rtfm :P
[17:55] <amanu> BlueEagle:i messed with my archives of my own risk
[17:55] <amenado> shawna--> then look for something like  ath_***.so
[17:55] <amanu> BlueEagle:ok
[17:55] <shawna> amenado, inside the madwifi folder there are 5 .ko files that begin with ath_*.
[17:55] <Dan_> Lol
[17:55] <CaBlGuY> thanks BlueEagle...
[17:56] <quilb1> how do i do the cool desktop effects
[17:56] <quilb1> like the cube thing
[17:56] <shawna> amenado, and 8 .ko files that begin with wlan_*
[17:56] <amenado> quilb1--> have you done any googling for compiz and 3-d? please do and do some of the tutorials
[17:56] <quilb1> compiz
[17:56] <quilb1> ok
[17:56] <amanu> BlueEagle:what i did is copied some .deb files from another ubuntu and pasted it in my /var/cache/apt/archives thats upppppppppp
[17:56] <quilb1> thanks
[17:57] <amenado> shawna--> yeah perhaps those,  and see if they are loaded
[17:57] <amanu> BlueEagle:as i tries to install them but its irritating me
[17:57] <DigitalFiz> quaal, you using ubuntus restricted drivers?
[17:57] <amanu> BlueEagle:have i done a foolish task?
[17:57] <DigitalFiz> err
[17:57] <DigitalFiz> quilb1, you using ubuntus restricted drivers?
[17:57] <shawna> amenado, when I went to System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers, nothing appeared there. I'm not sure how else to determine if those ath_* files are loaded.
[17:57] <slipttees> File extension MDS description:Alcohol 120% also suports:
[17:57] <amenado> amanu is this a brand new install?
[17:57] <slipttees> *.mds, supports *.ccd/*.img/*.sub, *.cue, *.bin, *.iso, *.bwt/*.bwi/*.bws, *.cdi, *.nrg.
[17:58] <bullgard4> The package console-data is not installed. Still the  association of e. g.  AltGr+M to µ functions on all  6 virtual consoles Ctrl+Alt+F1 through F6. What is the package 'console-data' for at all?
[17:58] <quilb1> do i install compiz-fusion or compiz?
[17:58] <CaBlGuY> amanu:  no, you have not done anything..  just be patient please...  only so many of us here to give support..
[17:58] <quilb1> amenado: do i install compiz-fusion or compiz?
[17:58] <amenado> shawna  man lsmod
[17:58] <amanu> amenado: brand new install? means?
[17:58] <_21h_> hi all
[17:58] <amanu> CaBlGuY:ok
[17:58] <shawna> amenado, thank you.
[17:58] <chaddy> quilb1: you just enable desktop effects, optionally you might want a configuration manager
[17:59] <_21h_> how to download only 1 string in sources.list, not all
[17:59] <_21h_> ?
[17:59] <amenado> quilb1--> i dont know, i dont use compiz or 3-d
[17:59] <amenado> quilb1--> i already suggested you google for them
[17:59] <quilb1> chaddy how do i get the configuration manager?
[17:59] <chaddy> _21h_: back up your /etc/apt/sources.list and write a fresh one with only the string you want, perhaps?
[18:00] <_21h_> no
[18:00] <chaddy> quilb1: aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager
[18:00] <amenado> _21h_--> yes, you can make a copy and then just comment out the rest except for the one you need
[18:00] <andresmh> how can I find what's the latest version of Wubi 8.10 ?
[18:00] <_21h_> it updates packets list
[18:01] <chaddy> andresmh: they can probably tell you in #ubuntu+1
[18:01] <amenado> andresmh--> did you visit the ubuntu web site for downloading?
[18:01] <quilb1> thanks chaddy
[18:01] <_21h_> i need to update only part
[18:01] <chaddy> no worries, quilb1
[18:01] <andresmh> amenado: I just googled Wubi 8.10 and I found a link to Wubi-8.10-rev510
[18:01] <shawna> amenado, lsmod doesn't show me anything that starts with, or contains, ath*. It does have pci_hotplug, but I kind of doubt it has much to do with it, unless I'm wrong.
[18:01] <BlueEagle> CaBlGuY: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=175213 other than that wine has been suggested.
[18:01] <amenado> andresmh--> then try that
[18:01] <_21h_> downloading 30-40 Mb on 128 kbit channel is like hard porno
[18:01] <chaddy> _21h_: packets and packages are different things, please try to pay more attention to what you type
[18:02] <skarface> anyone know how to get the win key working for hotkeys? I've tried messing with keyboard layout settings but I either get "Super L" with no modifier or "Mod4+F" or whatever but it doesn't actually work.
[18:02] <CaBlGuY> ok, I'm reading as well..  thanks BlueEagle...
[18:02] <euzao> damnation and brimstone!
[18:02] <andresmh> amenado: well, I just want to make sure I am downloading the latest one, and it is not clear to me if the one I found is indeed the latest one
[18:02] <_21h_> chaddy, packet == package
[18:02] <euzao> what the heck is happening with this nvidia!
[18:02]  * amfu is away (So many girls.So little time.)
[18:02] <chaddy> _21h_: maybe in *your* dreams
[18:02] <_21h_> ok ok
[18:02] <Skypers> I'm looking for someone who has an ATI GC , 4800 Series
[18:02] <BlueEagle> amanu: Please take me trough what happens when you attempt to boot your system.
[18:02] <amenado> andresmh the name would have the indication of the version
[18:03] <Skypers> cuz I've a trouble whith mine
[18:03] <Skypers> please hl me
[18:03] <BlueEagle> also press ALT+F1 when the ubuntu spash-screen appears
[18:03] <amanu> BlueEagle:shall i need to boot now?
[18:03] <BlueEagle> amanu: Is this machine the same one with your linux installation?
[18:03] <amenado> lol
[18:03] <amanu> yes
[18:03] <michaelklinckibu> im not sure if any of you have tryed to mess with world of warcraft, but i was wondering if any of you could tell me why the burning crusade installer is just sitting at 0.
[18:04] <jimmie32> Hey all
[18:04] <BlueEagle> amanu: I see. Well that might be a problem.
[18:04] <andresmh> amenado: I see, so the rev510 in Wubi-8.10-rev510 tells you they are using rev510 of Intrepid? or is rev510 of Wubi itself?
[18:04] <BlueEagle> amanu: Hang on while I try to find some way for this to work.
[18:04] <BlueEagle> amanu: Have you got a desktop live cd availible?
[18:04] <amanu> BlueEagle:ok
[18:04] <amenado> andresmh yes, btw  you were advised to visit #ubuntu+1 for the latest stuff
[18:04] <chaddy> michaelklinckibu: wineappdb should have some info on that
[18:04] <shawna> amenado, my next question is how to load the driver, since I don't believe lsmod listed anything relevant.
[18:05] <amanu> BlueEagle:ohh right now i wont have a live cd
[18:05] <amenado> shawna  man insmod and man modprobe
[18:05] <Skypers> I'm looking for someone who has an ATI GC , 4800 Series
[18:05] <Skypers> cuz I've a trouble whith mine
[18:05] <shawna> amenado, alright.
[18:05] <Skypers> please hl me
[18:05] <amenado> shawna--> i know its abit of hazzle but you will learn a few
[18:05] <chaddy> Skypers: hl isn't a word
[18:05] <BlueEagle> amanu: I see. :/
[18:05] <chaddy> I don't know what you want me to do to you
[18:06] <macvr> !ask | Skypers
[18:06] <amanu> BlueEagle:is it must?
[18:06] <shawna> amenado, alright. I can see you're busy helping more than one person, so I understand the referral.
[18:06] <amenado> shawna you may also have to peek around  /lib/firmware
[18:06] <shawna> amenado, what will I look for in there?
[18:06] <Skypers> ok ...
[18:07] <amenado> shawna--> anything related to your atheros
[18:07] <shawna> amenado, okay.
[18:07] <Skypers> I've a problem whith de 4800 series driver, released on the 17 September I think, it seems doesn't work
[18:07] <amanu> BlueEagle:is it must now to solve my problem?
[18:07] <BlueEagle> amanu: I'm sorry, but I have to pass on solving this issue then. If you get hold of a live cd then I can probably help you diagnose the issue. Other than that I would recomend attempting to re-install the system.
[18:08] <amenado> shawna btw, all modules loaded by the kernel should be listed in /proc/modules
[18:08] <BlueEagle> amanu: ...if re-installing is an option that is.
[18:08] <shawna> amenado, thank you. With the man pages, though, I'm having trouble figuring out how to scroll to the next page.
[18:08] <BlueEagle> amanu: I assume that you created a separate partition for /home and that should leave your personal files intact.
[18:08] <amanu> BlueEagle:yes
[18:08] <ThinkMinus> Does rpm2cpio produces an output folder>
[18:08] <amenado> shawna--> do something like  man insmod |more  then hit space bar to page to the next
[18:08] <ThinkMinus> *?
[18:09] <shawna> amenado, alright.
[18:09] <amanu> BlueEagle:yes theres a seperate partition for home but i dont want to reinstall
[18:09] <paolo>  hi. after some days of usage, now the touchpad of my notepad doesn't work. It's not a hardware problem (with Windows it still work)... what could it be ?
[18:09] <amenado> ThinkMinus--> i cant remember but its should have an output
[18:09] <BlueEagle> amanu: Also please take note of any error messages that may occure during installation as that will help us in debugging the issue.
[18:10] <amanu> BlueEagle:ok i will copy all the errors and hope i will find some one here to solve with a live cd
[18:10] <unop> shawna,  page_down
[18:10] <amenado> paolo--> look into your /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and look for your input device touchpad to see if its there..make a copy of the xorg.conf before modifications
[18:10] <amanu> BlueEagle:it will be thankfull if i find you
[18:10] <unop> shawna, there's no need to page to more - man documents are already paged with less
[18:10] <ThinkMinus> amenado --> Well, Instead of extarcting contents to an output folder, rpm2cpio produces vague stuff on terminal.... :(
[18:10] <shawna> unop, alright.
[18:11] <matkix> I have an NVIDIA twin head card, and I want to use the 2nd monitor. I installed the restricted driver, I'm just wondering how to enable the 2nd monitor to extend my desktop.
[18:11] <unop> shawna,  spacebar  also does the same.
[18:11] <vizion> Hi! How do i use my ATI drivers? I clicked on the restricted manager but i still have a resolution of 640x480 =( =(
[18:11] <shawna> unop, not for me, but page down worked
[18:11] <ThinkMinus> ?
[18:11] <amenado> ThinkMinus--> well you know there are several steps to convert an rpm to a cpio archive, so am sure it has to store stuff temporarily then re-package them to a cpio type archive
[18:12] <Crusader_Tech> I've got a bug report question.  I'm happy to let Ubuntu 8.10 report a bug when something goes awry on my system. However, i'm brought to a "Is the bug you're reporting one of these" page, and my only option is to "subscribe to this bug report".  I don't care to subscribe to anything, because I won't read it anyway. Suggestions?
[18:12] <paolo> amenado: i have it : Identifier	"Synaptics Touchpad"
[18:12] <matkix> I have an NVIDIA twin head card, and I want to use the 2nd monitor. I installed the restricted driver, I'm just wondering how to enable the 2nd monitor to extend my desktop.
[18:12] <lucax> matkix, connect it, system->preferences->screen resolution
[18:12] <ThinkMinus> Well I did this (as man pages say) ---> "rpm2cpio filename.rpm". Should that create an output folder?
[18:12] <amenado> paolo--> so does it look like it is in order?  i dont have a touchpad so i cant compare your config to mine..
[18:13] <matkix> lucax: I attempted, it gives me no option for the 2nd monitor
[18:13] <paolo> it seems in order
[18:13] <amenado> ThinkMinus--> maybe in /tmp but am not sure what all the default setting for that command is
[18:13] <aliases123> matkix: you might need to install the nvidia control panel / config tool. look in synaptic.
[18:14] <lucax> matkix, detect displays button
[18:14] <matkix> lucax: I did. I'll install the nvidia manager
[18:14] <lucax> matkix, also tilt clone screens
[18:14] <ThinkMinus> amenado : Well, someone in #linux channel told me that it outputs to PWD.....
[18:14] <amenado> paolo--> and perhaps look around the logs of X to see if it fails using your touchpad?
[18:14] <matkix> lucax:  did that too
[18:14] <lucax> matkix, wait a sec
[18:15] <venome> matkix: there are also some settings in the control center
[18:15] <amenado> ThinkMinus--> maybe it does, would be a problem for you having a new folder created as a result of the command?
[18:15] <venome> matkix: under resolution settings
[18:15] <MoeNeeMouse_> Hello, how can I give User "x" the rights to do ifdown and ifup without sudo?
[18:15] <uaa> hello any one knows about bluez-pin
[18:15] <matkix> venome: How do you access the control center?
[18:15] <uaa> I want to connect to internet using mobile phone and bluetooth
[18:15] <amenado> ThinkMinus--> would it*
[18:15] <lucax> matkix, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/dual-monitors-with-nvidia.html
[18:15] <venome> matkix: system -> control center
[18:16] <paolo> amenado: where is the log you say?
[18:16] <venome> matkix: (in hardy)
[18:16] <Azhi_Dahaka> Is there a way to install the latest version of GIMP WITHOUT colliding with the apt-get install system?
[18:16] <amenado> paolo--> maybe in /var/log  ?  look around perhaps
[18:16] <eXonius> Is it possible to update to the latest version of Pedgin?
[18:16] <MoeNeeMouse_> Hello, how can I give ONE user the rights to do "ifdown" and "ifup" without sudo?
[18:17] <lucax> matkix, did u check what i sent u?
[18:17] <Myrtti> eXonius: which new features in the new pidgin are you missing?
[18:17] <chaddy> no, eXonius, but you might manage it with pidgin
[18:17] <Scunizi> matkix: did you install nvidia-settings? if so start it from terminal using sudo so the changes will stick.
[18:17] <eXonius> ﻿﻿﻿What do you mean with manage it chaddy?
[18:17] <Crusader_Tech> IRC question. What is the best way to get a list of rooms on this server? I'm using Xchat.
[18:17] <paolo> anywat, amenado, as you showed, it's a x11 specific question.... i'll try to ask to the associate channel... thnks for the tip
[18:17] <matkix> Scunizi: I'm doing that now.
[18:17] <shawna> amenado, I'm playing around a bit with modprobe to try to figure out the syntax. I'm not sure I know what I'm doing, but whenever I use modprobe -l, no matter what I type after that, it doesn't give me any error. I tried modprobe -l -t /root/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ madwifi to see if that would do it, but nothing showed up in lsmod.
[18:17] <aliases123>  /list
[18:17] <vizion> Crusader_Tech: /list
[18:17] <Myrtti> Crusader_Tech: /msg alis help
[18:17] <Crusader_Tech> Thanks.
[18:17] <amenado> paolo--> sorry i was not much of a help, just kind of nudge you to narrow it down to X
[18:17] <shawna> amenado, man tells me what modprobe is, but is rather vague about specific syntax.
[18:17] <shawna> amenado, at least to me.
[18:18] <paolo> amenado: don't worry, you gave me an useful tip
[18:18] <Scunizi> matkix: good.  nvidia-settings allows me to turn on/off a second monitor and change resolution, stretch desktop if needed or activate xinerama for two sessions of x that I can drag and drop from one screen to another.
[18:19] <matkix> Whats the new name for berly?
[18:19] <amenado> shawna--> modprobe only looks in a specific directory, i think man pages mentions that, and insmod looks to where you tell to look for the file
[18:19] <matkix> I've been out of it for a few months.
[18:19] <chaddy> matkix: compiz-fusion
[18:19] <MoeNeeMouse_> How can I give User "x" the rights to do ifdown and ifup without sudo?
[18:19] <chaddy> matkix: it's in hardy by default
[18:20] <uriens> hi
[18:20] <amenado> MoeNeeMouse_--> only root is allowed to mess with I/O and network stuff, so you can not
[18:20] <shawna> amenado, man told me that modprobe adds and removes modules from the kernel. I'm just not sure of the specific syntax.
[18:20] <ThinkMinus> amenado : What I dont understand?
[18:20] <chaddy> matkix: aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager for the configurator
[18:20] <uriens> does anyone known why I get this error when trying to test my webcam with camorama? ---> (camorama:17665): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[18:20] <shawna> amenado, man also told me that modprobe is smarter than insmod, so I just assumed try to use that.
[18:21] <amenado> shawna sometimes if i am not sure of the command options and syntax, i google for examples
[18:21] <chaddy> a good strategy, amenado
[18:21] <shawna> amenado, good point. sorry for being a bother.
[18:21] <vizion> Hi! How do i use my ATI drivers? I clicked on the restricted manager but i still have a resolution of 640x480 =( =( =(
[18:21] <chaddy> vizion: you might need to restart X
[18:21] <amenado> ThinkMinus--> i meant would it be a problem if the command created a file folder in your $PWD ?
[18:22] <DigitalFiz> can someone give me some insite as to how the package system work, say pidgn has a protocal bug right now for yahoo its supose to be fixed in the next release but the version in the repo is already a version behind will it get updated because the bug is so big?
[18:22] <vizion> chaddy: already tried that :( Plus a reboot
[18:22] <Scunizi> matkix: I think you mean compiz.. to make changes to it you'll need to install compiz-configuration-settings-manager
[18:22] <Azhi_Dahaka> Is there a repository for the latest versions of Pidgin and GIMP?
[18:22] <amenado> shawna so many things to remember, i made friends with google to assist me.. :)
[18:22] <ThinkMinus> amenado : What do you mean by your last reply?
[18:22] <chaddy> Azhi_Dahaka: you might want backports
[18:22] <shawna> amenado, alright.
[18:22] <Scunizi> Azhi_Dahaka: the currently installed repos have the most current versions that have been insured to function on your install.
[18:23] <chaddy> Azhi_Dahaka: you can enable them through synaptic
[18:23] <jumpstart> hey @ all.
[18:23] <amenado> ThinkMinus--> i meant would it be a problem if it created a folder? if not, dont worry about it?
[18:23] <chaddy> hey jumpstart
[18:23] <jumpstart> does anybody know a "yast" like tool for ubuntu server edition?
[18:23] <CaBlGuY> ok, thanks BlueEagle...  I'm off
[18:23] <chaddy> jumpstart: you mean like an ncurses synaptic?
[18:24] <amenado> jumpstart--> close enuff to yast is  apt-get  and dpkg
[18:24] <MoeNii> How can I give an User the ability to do "ifdown" and "ifup" without sudo in front of it?
[18:24] <DocUSN-USMC> whats the command to look up video card in terminal, and drivers
[18:24] <amenado> MoeNii--> only root is allowed to mess with I/O and network stuff, so you can not <-- i advised you already
[18:24] <chaddy> MoeNii: as I understand it you would set the suid bit
[18:24] <ThinkMinus> Well, I want source tarballs for Xorg-libs-devel....But I couldnot find them on internet....And so I am using rpm2cpio to extract RPM for xorg-libs-devel as source RPMs contains tarballs
[18:24] <chaddy> not very secure, though
[18:24] <ThinkMinus> amenado: Now what?
[18:24] <MoeNii> amenado but in Fedora it is Standard to do ifdown eht0
[18:25] <MoeNii> *eth0
[18:25] <jumpstart> i know apt-get and dpkg. but in yast you can also setup many different things like network etc
[18:25] <whatvn> you can use sudo with no confirm password
[18:25] <amenado> DocUSN-USMC--> try with lshw, hwinfo, lshal   those commands would give you plenty enuff info
[18:25] <chaddy> MoeNii: google around for "suid bit"
[18:25] <MoeNii> thank you
[18:25] <whatvn> MoeNi: edit visudo to change the way you "sudo" ^
[18:25] <amenado> MoeNii--> unless your user has the root priviledge they cannot, even in fedora
[18:26] <MoeNii> because I want to go offline with nm-applet 0.6.6
[18:26] <amenado> ThinkMinus--> did the conversion happened? you got an archive?
[18:26]  * macvr awake
[18:26] <chaddy> underpants, pah!
[18:26] <chaddy> hi Margraf
[18:26] <Margraf> hi all
[18:26] <chaddy> s/ Margraf/ macvr
[18:27] <ThinkMinus> Nope......when I used "rpm2cpio filename.rpm" I got vague output at terminal
[18:27] <macvr> chaddy did u ask her? confirmed?
[18:27] <Margraf> hi can i do expose effects work? (ubuntu 8.10)
[18:27] <dustman> hej
[18:27] <CaBlGuY> !Quasar
[18:27] <magnetron> chaddy, macvr , join me in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:27] <magnetron> dustman, hej, engelska här tack :D
[18:28] <whatvn> so sad, I don't have any question to ask
[18:28] <amenado> ThinkMinus--> what do you want to accomplish?  rpm is a type of an archive, so as cpio format, you want to compress the file?
[18:28] <whatvn> go sleep :d
[18:28] <whatvn> bb all
[18:28]  * dustman wonders how to remove all $HOME dirs from desktop
[18:30] <ThinkMinus> amenado : I want to get tarballs for the RPM I am using...
[18:30] <fishsponge_> hey people - how do i install a .deb file??
[18:30] <amenado> ThinkMinus--> do something like   rpm2cpio newpackage-1-51.rpm | cpio -i --make-directories
[18:30] <amenado> fishsponge_--> man dpkg
[18:31] <ThinkMinus> amenado : Ok I am checking
[18:31] <mutz1243> Hey all.  I'm new to Ubuntu and was just wondering what virus protection works good?
[18:31]  * linuxdevil explodes
[18:31] <gorgapor> i just upgraded to intrepid beta; where did the "input source" options in the volume control applet go?
[18:31] <Tm_T> mutz1243: for what viruses?
[18:31] <unop> ThinkMinus, rpm2cpio only extracts the cpio archive from the rpm - it does not create any files
[18:31] <amenado> !virus | mutz1243-->
[18:31] <Tm_T> gorgapor: #ubuntu+1
[18:31] <gorgapor> thx
[18:31] <Margraf> i need a help to do my expose efects works... someone can help me?
[18:31] <mutz1243> i dont know do i need one?
[18:31] <ThinkMinus> I want to get the cpio archive
[18:31]  * linuxdevil does the ubuntu dance.
[18:32] <gyroscope> mutz1243, try clamav
[18:32] <Tm_T> mutz1243: no, unless for windows viruses
[18:32] <unop> ThinkMinus, rpm2cpio file.rpm | cpio -idv
[18:32] <DefunctProcess> Anyone can tell me how to reinstall the bluetooth daemon on Hardy?
[18:32] <mutz1243> well i havent gotten anything yet i was just wondering in case anything ever did happen
[18:32] <ThinkMinus> amenado : I want to get that cpio archive
[18:32] <amenado> DefunctProcess--> does it have an entry of  blue* in /etc/init.d/  ?
[18:32] <mutz1243> i guess its pretty hard to get a virus on linux right?
[18:32] <DefunctProcess> amenado, yes
[18:33] <unop> ThinkMinus,   rpm2cpio file.rpm >  file.cpio
[18:33] <gyroscope> you're right
[18:33] <chaddy> mutz1243: pretty hard, yeah
[18:33] <DigitalFiz> !virus > mutz1243
[18:33] <Scunizi> mutz1243: yep.. usually only use virus protection as a protection for your windows friends...
[18:33] <mutz1243> ok
[18:33] <amenado> ThinkMinus--> when you rpm2cpio  it creates a dir of files that correspond to original dir when rpm was created, then look in those directory that expanded to find the file you are after
[18:33] <mutz1243> thanks
[18:33] <DigitalFiz> mutz1243, no virus or spyware :D
[18:33] <Scunizi> mutz1243: or better yet.. get them to convert and not worry anymore.
[18:33] <Obuntu> hi all
[18:33] <unop> amenado, that's not true - rpm2cpio does not create anything
[18:33] <amenado> DefunctProcess--> then its already there, just restart bluetooth as root off course
[18:34] <DefunctProcess> amenado, but im not trying to restart it, i am trying to install it
[18:34] <DefunctProcess> amenado, reinstall it rather
[18:34] <amenado> unop-->  it has to recreate the file directory structure of the rpm yes?
[18:34] <unop> amenado, well, you have to pipe the output of rpm2cpio to something that does that for you yea, and that is usually cpio itself
[18:34] <ThinkMinus> unop : rpm2cpio file.rpm > file.cpio doesnot helps
[18:35] <vizion> So erm, how do i set my resolution with an ATI Radeon card? It can handle 1200x800 but ubuntu only gives me 640x480
[18:35] <unop> ThinkMinus, you asked how to create a cpio file using rpm2cpio and i showed you that - maybe your question is not clear.
[18:35] <gyroscope> press ctrl + alt + plus
[18:35] <amenado> unop specially he wants to pull or extract a specific file, he has to expand it
[18:36] <vizion> gyroscope: noes :(
[18:36] <gyroscope> vizion, press it :D
[18:36] <Arcticfox> I'm haveing texture and layer prblems running world of warcraft
[18:36] <vizion> gyroscope: i did DD=
[18:36] <gyroscope> vizion, hmm
[18:36] <Helminthe> ThinkMinus: install mc (midnight commander)
[18:36] <gyroscope> vizion, you need change your xorg.conf
[18:37] <vizion> gyroscope: i tried adding the mode to it, but no workie =(
[18:37] <unop> ThinkMinus, did you try this??   rpm2cpio yourfile.rpm | cpio -idv
[18:37] <Helminthe> ThinkMinus: and if you want a package for your system, read into 'alien'
[18:37] <ThinkMinus> unop : yeah I tried it too.....It produced a lot of vague output on my terminal
[18:37] <gyroscope> vizion, hmm i hate the ati for reasons
[18:38] <vizion> gyroscope: me too, but that won't change my card xD
[18:38] <unop> ThinkMinus, http://www.brandonhutchinson.com/cpio_command.html
[18:38] <amenado> unop that may expand it to an existing directory and may overwrite the files in those directory? so he may need to direct the expansion to temporary dir
[18:38] <ThinkMinus> Helminthe : What's alien and mc
[18:38] <tyso1> anyone, do i need to delete the old java before i upgrade to a newwer version?
[18:38] <Helminthe> ThinkMinus: apt-get install mc
[18:38] <Helminthe> ThinkMinus: run 'mc'
[18:39] <alicev> how can i java for firefox install on8.04
[18:39] <Helminthe> ThinkMinus: in a console, find the rpm you want, hit enter etcetc
[18:39] <amenado> ThinkMinus--> alien converts from  rpm packaging to a debian packaging
[18:39] <ThinkMinus> ok
[18:39] <ThinkMinus> Checking mc........
[18:39] <ikonia> ThinkMinus: I'd strongly advise against using anything packaged in an rpm on an ubuntu system
[18:39] <amenado> ThinkMinus--> so what do you want to accomplish again?
[18:39] <gyroscope> vizion, you can try to ask this question to ati users, i have nvidia gpu
[18:40] <tyso1> does the old version of java need to be removed before upgrading to a new one?
[18:40] <vizion> Bleh ubuntu :(
[18:40] <amenado> tyso1--> nope
[18:40] <daxroc> Does any one know of a solution for 8+ series mobile nvidia cards backlight adjustment ?
[18:40] <tyso1> amenado:thanks
[18:41] <gyroscope> daxroc, use function keys :D
[18:41] <ThinkMinus> Ty everyone.......mc solved my problem
[18:41] <tyso1> anyone know how to upgrade to JRE 1.5.x?
[18:41] <daxroc> gyroscope: :|
[18:41] <gyroscope> daxroc, i'm serious
[18:41] <ThinkMinus> ikonia: I am not on ubuntu system but on PC linux OS (a mandriva distro)....... ;)
[18:41] <Scunizi> daxroc: the newly released linux nvidia driver might fix that.
[18:42] <ikonia> ThinkMinus: ok - so this is nothing to do with ubuntu so shouldn't be discussed in this channel please.
[18:42] <ThinkMinus> OK.......btw, my problem's already solved
[18:42] <ThinkMinus> bye and thanks all..........
[18:42] <carrera> Greetings!
[18:42] <ikonia> !away > slestak|afk
[18:42] <daxroc> gyroscope: the function keys are working , but there is no actual backend controll for the backlight through either nvidia driver or nvclock ( only works for 7 series cards )
[18:43] <carrera> is it ok to put swap on a RAID0 partition?
[18:43] <daxroc> Scunizi: I will do , looking at the update now
[18:43] <ikonia> carrera: yes
[18:43] <amenado> carrera--> i dont see that as a problem
[18:43] <carrera> i.e. is softwareRAID0 stable for swap use?
[18:43] <ikonia> carrera: if it's a fakeraid partition, I'd advise against it
[18:43] <Scunizi> daxroc: here's a link for additional reading. http://happypenguin.org/newsitem?id=8702
[18:43] <gyroscope> daxroc, hmm upgrade your nvidia drivers
[18:43] <carrera> no ikonia, i've decided to go with softwareRAID
[18:44] <_coredump_> nabend
[18:44] <ikonia> carrera: ahhh excellent
[18:44] <carrera> ikonia, yea, thanks
[18:44] <zender> can someone please direct me to a good tutorial for installing windows under ubuntu?
[18:44] <ikonia> zender: you don't install windows within ubuntu
[18:44] <ikonia> zender: unless you mean virtualization
[18:44] <zender> something to do with wine
[18:45] <ikonia> !wine | zender
[18:45] <carrera> i finally did some reading and think I finally understand the diff between hardware, fake and software RAID
[18:45] <ikonia> carrera: thats excellent, very useful to know
[18:45] <ryan_> What is the keyboard shortcut to switch between tabs?
[18:45] <zender> ikonia,  is it only for PROGRAMS or can i emulate the whole OS?
[18:45] <carrera> ikonia, are u making fun of me :)
[18:45] <ikonia> zender: just programs
[18:45] <Scunizi> zender: you can't install windows under wine.. you can install windows with VMWare Server, Virtual Box and others.
[18:45] <ikonia> carrera: no no, I mean that
[18:45] <judas> shift-tab
[18:46] <ikonia> carrera: knowing and understanding the difference between raids will be very useful
[18:46] <carrera> ikonia, I use to think fakeRAID is better for performance
[18:46] <judas> ctrl+tab
[18:46] <ikonia> carrera: and now you understand.....
[18:46] <carrera> yup
[18:46] <mutz1243> fakeRAID is the software one right?
[18:46] <ikonia> mutz1243: no
[18:46] <gyroscope> you can install win3.1 under wine :D
[18:46] <ikonia> mutz1243: it's the onboard motherboard drivers
[18:46] <carrera> mutz1243, no
[18:46] <mutz1243> oh
[18:46] <judas> so, did sb read about the 5second boot of the asus eeepc?
[18:46] <zender> so can someone please direct me to any tutorial that lets me emulate windows under ubuntu?
[18:46] <mutz1243> even the intel drivers
[18:46] <ikonia> zender: you can't
[18:46] <Scunizi> gyroscope: arg.. probably but who would really want to..?
[18:46] <ikonia> zender: you can use virtualization - or wine for applications
[18:47] <AkariChan> my eeepc 901 boots in 7 seconds :)
[18:47] <zender> ikonia,  what does virtualisation mean
[18:47] <Helminthe> zender: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[18:47] <ikonia> zender: virtual machines
[18:47] <gyroscope> Scunizi, just nostalgia :D
[18:47] <carrera> I'm building a server for work
[18:47] <zender> ikonia, do you agree with Helminthe ?
[18:47] <ikonia> Helminthe: dont people to blindly do things, it's obvious he doesn't know much about it
[18:47] <judas> is there a way to get an "easy to install" image for that?
[18:47] <Helminthe> zender: and have a windows install cd available for this
[18:47] <ikonia> zender: on what topic ?
[18:47] <Plz> just go to add/remove programs, search for virtualbox and you find it :D
[18:47] <zender> Helminthe, i have the image
[18:47] <Plz> or image.
[18:47] <ikonia> zender: I wouldn't suggest using virtual box personally
[18:47] <carrera> I'm trying to decide between RH Enterprise and Ubuntu Server
[18:47] <carrera> any thoughts?
[18:48] <Plz> ikonia: what would you recommend us to do then?
[18:48] <gyroscope> Scunizi, i'm use commodore64 emulator in my linux system
[18:48] <Helminthe> ikonia: I am fully aware of the risks of running wine or such. virtualbox is the safest choice for this
[18:48] <zender> ikonia,  why not? which are the risks
[18:48] <ikonia> carrera: try them both, and look at the costs
[18:48] <carrera> i'm getting RH Ent for free too
[18:48] <ikonia> carrera: thats not possible, and also offtopic
[18:48] <carrera> here's a problem I have
[18:48] <bullgard4> The package console-data is not installed. Still the  association of e. g.  AltGr+M to µ functions on all  6 virtual consoles Ctrl+Alt+F1 through F6. What is the package 'console-data' for at all?
[18:48] <Scunizi> gyroscope: that can be cool.. never really messed with commodore64 but those who have liked it.
[18:48] <bitfrost> Hi, greetings, I am going to make a Ubuntu Workshop on my community, how can I get the aval of Ubuntu?
[18:48] <tavi> hey what is this error ?
[18:49] <carrera> ikonia, what part is off topic?
[18:49] <carrera> the cost?
[18:49] <ikonia> bitfrost: aval ?
[18:49] <ikonia> carrera: anything to do with rhel
[18:49] <carrera> ok
[18:49] <tavi> ﻿"user switcher" has quit unespectedly
[18:49] <judas> AkaraiChan: how did you achieve that?
[18:49] <tavi> ﻿if you reload a panel object , it will automatically be added back to the panel
[18:49] <carrera> I'd like to use Ubuntu Server but it doesn't have gui
[18:49] <ikonia> carrera: you can install a gui
[18:49] <gyroscope> Scunizi, i like it, sometimes i write basic programs, sprite animation etc.
[18:49] <ikonia> carrera: you don't need the "server" install to have a server
[18:50] <ikonia> carrera: the desktop install is more suited to home hardware
[18:50] <carrera> but I'm on an extremely chuppy 128 Kb/s adsl
[18:50] <Helminthe> ikonia: sorry for the very short info - virtualbox is a software package that allows you to run a complete windows install without changing anything in your linux system, but at the same time
[18:50] <ikonia> Helminthe: I know exactly what it is
[18:50] <bitfrost> ikonia, like the permission to use logos and so on
[18:50] <amenado> carrera--> what services are you willing to serve? what purposes?
[18:50] <Helminthe> ikonia: k
[18:50] <bullgard4> bitfrost: 'dict aval': "No definitions found for "aval".
[18:50] <carrera> ikonia, i was thinking to install the desktop and then just add the servers
[18:50] <ikonia> bitfrost: Hmmmm maybe speak to #ubuntu-marketing people ?
[18:50] <ikonia> carrera: thats fine
[18:50] <carrera> I usually build my own LAMP anyway
[18:51] <gord_> I love lamp
[18:51] <gyroscope> me too love it
[18:51] <ikonia> carrera: ubuntu's apache/php/mysql install packages are fine
[18:51] <carrera> amenado, I need LAMP + Samba for now
[18:51] <bitfrost> Thanks ikonia
[18:51] <Scunizi> zender: if you're ultimate goal is to install windows to run games you have to understand that the video driver used in a virtual machine won't allow some directx games to run.  It's more for productivity stuff that just doesn't have a linux equal or is propriatory,  like IE6+ for some sites.
[18:51] <amenado> carrera--> serve to how many customers/clients?
[18:52] <Helminthe> ikonia: the reply was meant for zender
[18:52] <gord_> carrera, I've actually never required http or php, I usually just run ftpd and samba/swat and nfs for my linux clients
[18:52] <ikonia> Helminthe: ah
[18:52] <gyroscope> Is wmware workstation not allowing directX?
[18:52] <carrera> gord_, I need to set up a wiki for our production unit
[18:52] <ikonia> gyroscope: the hardware is emmulated
[18:53] <Scunizi> gyroscope: workstation might. but that's a paid product.. vmware server 1.x.x and 2.x.x beta don't to my knowledge
[18:53] <Helminthe> gyroscope: they advertise a lot of dx features as available in the next release
[18:53] <KenBW2> i have a headphone jack on the front of my machine. How do i figure out whether or not it's just there for effect?
[18:53] <gord_> carrera, In that case apache may be a good choice
[18:53] <carrera> yup
[18:53] <Scunizi> KenBW2: uh... try it?
[18:53] <carrera> I'll be installing MediaWiki
[18:53] <chaddy> KenBW2: plug some headphones into it, then plug the other end into your ears>
[18:53] <zender> Scunizi,  is it safe to say that the virtual machine would run most of the application that dont stress the video card?
[18:54] <KenBW2> Scunizi, chaddy: i tried that :/
[18:54] <chaddy> KenBW2: also check volume levels in alsaconf
[18:54] <zender> thx for the reply btw
[18:54] <sirjoebob> hello all.. I have a weird question and could not find an answer for it anywhere. I am writing a paper for a Linux scripting class and cant figure out how to cite (in apa) a linux manpage....
[18:54] <carrera> ikonia, why is desktop more suited to home hardware?
[18:54] <gord_> KenBW2, some times there are some tricky disabled options depending on the particular card... play around in the switches section
[18:54] <ikonia> sirjoebob: you may get a better response in ##linux
[18:54] <KenBW2> chaddy: you mean alsamixer?
[18:54] <Scunizi> zender: and some that do. just depends.  what do you need to do in the windows environment that you haven't discovered in linux?
[18:54] <ikonia> carrera: packages aimed at home user kit,
[18:54] <sirjoebob> ikonia.... thanks. will try there.
[18:54] <InsomniaCity> sirjoebob: hah... referencing stuff like that is always fun
[18:54] <carrera> ikonia, I've a 64bit arch btw
[18:54] <gord_> KenBW2, what card is it?
[18:54] <chaddy> KenBW2: actually, yes, I probably do
[18:54] <InsomniaCity> sirjoebob: there are lots of sites that host man pages
[18:54] <KenBW2> gord_: sound card?
[18:54] <ikonia> carrera: doesnt matter, still home kit from what your saying
[18:55] <carrera> do I need to d/l a special build?
[18:55] <InsomniaCity> sirjoebob: you could reference one of them
[18:55] <ikonia> carrera: no, just the desktop install will be ine
[18:55] <ikonia> fine
[18:55] <sirjoebob> InsomniaCity: good point, i will just use the Ubuntu manpage directory. thanks for the idea
[18:55] <InsomniaCity> sirjoebob: or reference a subversion/cvs URL for the original man page source
[18:55] <gord_> KenBW2, no I meant the video/network card that produces sound
[18:55] <zender> Scunizi, play on casinos that make you download a software casino
[18:55] <B|ackPanther> what is actually put at the end of the content in the file of type .txt ?a stream of "0xffff" ?
[18:55] <KenBW2> gord_: hmmm. erm, how do i find out
[18:55] <Scunizi> zender: ah.. that would probably work
[18:55] <carrera> ikonia, does the CD come with a 64 bit kernel?
[18:55] <gord_> KenBW2, lspci
[18:55] <ikonia> carrera: depends if you download the 32 or 64bit cd
[18:56] <gord_> KenBW2, or perhaps aplay -l
[18:56] <carrera> ikonia, that's what I was thinking. I think I got the 32 bit
[18:56] <ikonia> carrera: nothing wrong with 32bit
[18:56] <carrera> ikonia, so there are different versions?
[18:56] <ikonia> carrera: 32bit will work on a 64bit cpu
[18:56] <KenBW2> gord_: card 0: ICH5 [Intel ICH5], device 0: Intel ICH [Intel ICH5]
[18:56] <InsomniaCity> B|ackPanther: you might need to restate that question
[18:56] <carrera> ikonia, but wouldn't it be slower?
[18:56] <phl4kx> hi
[18:56] <InsomniaCity> it doesn't make much sense
[18:56] <ikonia> carrera: no
[18:56] <phl4kx> I have this problem when run snort
[18:56] <phl4kx> NFNETLINK answers: Invalid argument
[18:57] <gord_> Might as well go for 64 bit if you have 4gb ram, there's really no difference unless you're planning on running wine or something
[18:57] <bunnyto> I love UBUNTU!!
[18:57] <zer0ne> gord: except 4 the heat
[18:57] <fxtgear> ME TOO
[18:57] <LuYu> B-)
[18:57] <gord_> KenBW2, the card is installed. Did you install it using the repositories, or is this a fresh install?
[18:57] <ichbinesderelch> thanks for the info
[18:57] <Crusader_Tech> Ubuntu newb question.  Is it true I don't have to worry about defragging my hard drive in Ubuntu?
[18:57] <knut> hi, what is the most recommended program to create *.pdf files in print quality?
[18:57] <Helminthe> B|ackPanther: if this is a question relating to file systems - there is nothing "put at the end" of any file. although allocating units may be larger, there is no padding
[18:57] <CaT_MaNz> hello, how can i install DomXML extension on my ubuntu 8.04
[18:57] <ikonia> Crusader_Tech: pretty much
[18:57] <Scunizi> Crusader_Tech: yep..
[18:57]  * carrera bunnyto Ubuntu love u too!
[18:58] <KenBW2> gord_: well, its not a fresh install but it does work OOTB and i havent changed anything with it
[18:58] <fxtgear> I love pSX, zsnes, and scummvm so very much
[18:58] <Crusader_Tech> well I like it already. :-)
[18:58] <Scunizi> knut: you doing graphics.. flyers.. layouts ?
[18:58] <bingungaja> is compiz safe to be installed ?
[18:58] <Zach[DM]> g2g bbt
[18:58] <knut> scunizi: yes
[18:58] <bunnyto> Crusader_Tech: you need to buy Microsoft Defragmenter to defragment ubuntu
[18:58] <ikonia> bingungaja: it's already installed in ubuntu 8.04
[18:58] <ikonia> bunnyto: don't talk nonsense
[18:58] <ikonia> Crusader_Tech: ignore bunnyto
[18:58] <ikonia> bunnyto: don't talk nonsense
[18:58] <bunnyto> kidding
[18:58] <Crusader_Tech> I figured that much.
[18:58] <bingungaja> ikonia : really ? how to make it work ?
[18:58] <ikonia> bunnyto: don't
[18:58] <gord_> KenBW2, and all of a sudden it's stopped working?
[18:58] <ikonia> bingungaja: apologies, that wasn't meant for you
[18:58] <carrera> gord_, ikonia, actually I do have 4 GB of RAM on two modules now and I'm thinking of upgrading to 8
[18:59] <bunnyto> Crusader_Tech: why you want to defragment ubuntu?
[18:59] <KenBW2> gord_: nooooo, sound works fine. it's just my machine has a headphone jack on it and only now am i trying it out
[18:59] <gord_> carrera, go 64
[18:59] <B|ackPanther> InsomniaCity.I have program that reads from a .txt file and  the Reader return -1 if the end of the stream is reached but it never does and all i get is a stream of 0xffff .
[18:59] <ikonia> carrera: 64bit will provide better large memory support
[18:59] <bingungaja> ikonia : oh ....
[18:59] <avernos> hello, how can i start manually gnome-settings-daemon? in terminal
[18:59] <gord_> KenBW2, ohhhh, I thought you'd broken something
[18:59] <bunnyto> carrera: 8 gb only?? i have 16gb you cant afford that
[18:59] <ikonia> bunnyto: stop now
[18:59] <carrera> ikonia, gord_ what's considered large?
[18:59] <Scunizi> knut: there's lots of stuff.. if you want vector graphics, stretching without loss then Inkscape.. also Openoffice Draw exports to pdf in 300dpi or better if you want.. that's print quality.. or any other program you like and print to the cups-pdf print driver.. I've had good success with all of them..
[18:59] <ikonia> bunnyto: if you want to mess around do it else where
[18:59] <ikonia> carrera: 4gb +
[18:59] <KenBW2> gord_: nope, although it wouldnt be the first time
[18:59] <Crusader_Tech> bunnyto: I don't WANT to.  I'm just wondering if I had to.  I had heard some people say the Linux file systems didn't need to be defragged like Windows.
[18:59] <avernos> i would also like to start it in the startup, but i dunno how to add a daemon to start up
[19:00] <InsomniaCity> B|ackPanther: did you write the Reader?
[19:00] <gord_> no one needs 16 gb... unless you do a lot of uncompressed video editing
[19:00] <InsomniaCity> sounds like you might have made a mistake
[19:00] <carrera> bunnyto, I don't have to budd... I work for an oil company
[19:00] <violinappren> hi all, anybody knows an (preferably GUI) application to send midi events from the computer keyboard to a softsynth? I tried http://helgo.net/simon/midikb/ with timidity but it segfaults
[19:00] <carrera> :D
[19:00] <InsomniaCity> B|ackPanther: files don't have anything at the end of them like that - they just... end
[19:00] <gord_> 8 will be fairly standard for games within the next 5 years
[19:00] <gord_> but by then we'll have DDR8 so dont bother
[19:00] <Scunizi> knut: I shouldn't leave out Scribus.. that's a lot like pagemaker and other's in the windows environ.
[19:00] <bunnyto> carrera: oil companies dont use ubuntu
[19:01] <gord_> KenBW2, At least it's Ubuntu... its easy to fix
[19:01] <KenBW2> gord_: any ideas of a solution?
[19:01] <carrera> bunnyto, ours will!
[19:01] <gord_> KenBW2, is this a front panel jack?
[19:01] <ikonia> carrera: don't feed the issue please.
[19:01] <Helminthe> InsomniaCity: offtopic - a file does not end, nor does it start :)
[19:01] <KenBW2> gord_: yea
[19:01] <bunnyto> carrera: what is the name of the company?
[19:01] <scrososn> okay on the Network menu it shows my wireless card. but i cant get it to connect to my network
[19:02] <gord_> KenBW2, and the back panel jacks work fine?
[19:02] <ikonia> bunnyto: please drop it
[19:02] <KenBW2> gord_: *listens, hears music*. yup
[19:02] <Scunizi> !ot | bunnyto
[19:02] <carrera> ikonia, is he notorious?
[19:02] <ikonia> carrera: no
[19:02] <InsomniaCity> Helminthe: how do you mean?
[19:02] <Crusader_Tech> The defrag question popped into my mind just now, as I was manipulating a CD image in XP, which was running on virtualbox inside Ubuntu.  All the hard drive traffic got me thinking about defragging, and if it was necessary in Ubuntu.  Thanks.
[19:02] <knut> scunizi: is there a program like macromedia (ähem .. adobe) flash for linux?
[19:03] <gord_> KenBW2, is it more of a convenience issue or does it really matter which you plug into?
[19:03] <Scunizi> Crusader_Tech: if you are using ext3 for a file system it will check itself roughly every 30 days.
[19:03] <ikonia> knut: no flash applcations for linux really as its a closed source tech
[19:03] <KenBW2> gord_: i want to be able to listen with headphones (the wire wont reach round the back)
[19:03] <knut> ikonia: silverlight?
[19:03] <Helminthe> InsomniaCity: on a typical storage sytem, there are some records in a file allocation table that state, "name x starts there and ends there". there is absolutely nothing preventing an application from reading/writing before or after those marks
[19:03] <ikonia> knut: no
[19:03] <Scunizi> knut: what ikonia said ^__^
[19:03] <knut> ikonia :-)
[19:03] <bingungaja> is compiz safe to be installed ?
[19:04] <Helminthe> InsomniaCity: just being pedantic :)
[19:04] <Plz> Silverlight is Microsoft.. eeeeew..
[19:04] <Plz> No way in hell!
[19:04] <Crusader_Tech> Scunizi: I've seen it do that once as I was starting Ubuntu.  Glad to know it does that. I thought at first "well this might be a pain in the butt if I need a quick login", but it didnt take long at all.
[19:04] <gord_> KenBW2, I see... in the gnome volume control do you have.. oh crap I'm in fluxbox
[19:04]  * LuYu wretches
[19:04] <LuYu> silverlight -- dont make me sick
[19:04] <knut> hehe
[19:04] <Scunizi> Crusader_Tech: it's a feature you can turn off or make the increments longer or shorter.. I just leave them at defaults.
[19:04] <MANIAKA7000> :P
[19:04] <ikonia> LuYu: instead of making pointless comments about it, just don't use it
[19:05] <LuYu> i never have
[19:05] <Plz> I don`t have and I don`t want to install silverlight plugin.
[19:05] <ikonia> LuYu: you just did
[19:05] <bingungaja> anyone know any link that can inform me about ubuntu workspace, since i can't find any good link in google
[19:05] <Crusader_Tech> Scunizi: I'll be doing the same. The Ubuntu Dev's know a heck of a lot more than I do.
[19:05] <MANIAKA7000> LuYu what about silverelight?
[19:05] <gord_> KenBW2, ok, in the gnome volume control... edit > Preferences. Enable everything
[19:05] <Azhi_Dahaka> Is there a repository for the latest versions of Pidgin and GIMP?
[19:05] <LuYu> you mean when i vomit, MS gets paid?  what is that?  licensing 666?
[19:05] <Scunizi> Crusader_Tech: that's my feeling too.
[19:05] <ikonia> Azhi_Dahaka: no, only what's available in ubuntu
[19:05] <ikonia> LuYu: no - it's pointless comments,
[19:06] <ikonia> Azhi_Dahaka: 3rd parties may package it up for you
[19:06] <PolitikerNEU> there is a repository for gimp, mom
[19:06] <Scunizi> Azhi_Dahaka: If you really must install the absolute latest... check out www.getdeb.net for a possible .deb to install.
[19:06] <paul68> BlueEagle: when I install shorewall through the command line is every port closed afterwards or is still everything open?
[19:06] <KenBW2> gord_: then look for any that are muted?
[19:06] <Crusader_Tech> Does anyone know how the repositories are going to handle OpenOffice.org 3.0? I've run the beta in Windows, and I like it a lot. So I'm wondering how long they will take to roll them in?
[19:06] <Guest64330> I've just installed Ubuntu 8.04 and I'm having networking problems; domain names are not being looked up correctly.  The DNS server is set to the same as my other Ubuntu machine (my router), does anyone have any ideas?
[19:06] <LuYu> well, i would make a point, but you would probably try to ban me for life
[19:06] <LuYu> so, i wont say what im thinking
[19:07] <Scunizi> Crusader_Tech: 3.0 will come on ubuntu in future versions.
[19:07] <ikonia> LuYu: no, I'm just asking you to not rant about how bad microsoft is in the channel
[19:07] <gord_> KenBW2, That's what I'd do... set them all to around 75%... then try the headphone jack... if you have any "Switches" or other tabs check them out and play around with settings
[19:07] <Crusader_Tech> Scunizi: So it won't be featured in 8.10 final?
[19:07] <scrososn> Is there a channel for specific ubuntu help or?
[19:07] <SolidSlash> has anyone seen dmoerner here recently ?
[19:07] <ikonia> scrososn: your in it
[19:07] <Plz> Is there another way we can get it sooner, Scunizi?
[19:07] <Scunizi> Crusader_Tech: that I don't know.. maybe.. check out #ubuntu+1 for an answer to that one.
[19:07] <scrososn> ><
[19:08] <Helminthe> Crusader_Tech: have you tried OO3 in  alinux install? asking because I did, with an opensuse beta, and the experience was not exhilarating
[19:08] <Scunizi> Plz: compile it.
[19:08] <LuYu> well, one sentence is a rant now -- interesting -- culture really is speeding up these days
[19:08] <gord_> KenBW2, the next step, if this doesn't work will be to try to find some way to compile alsa to enable the front audio, which I have no idea how to do, so it should be fun.
[19:08] <Crusader_Tech> Scunizi: Will do.  thx.
[19:08] <Plz> Scunizi: and compile means?
[19:08] <Plz> <-- linux noob
[19:08] <tadzik_> Plz: making executable from the source code
[19:08] <alpsy> does anyone else have problems with evdev and xmoto fullscreen? my mouse just sticks in the bottom right corner and is pretty much uncontrollable
[19:08] <Crusader_Tech> Helminthe: I have not yet.  Only windows so far.  And it is MUCH faster than 2.x.  Not to mention faster than MS Office 2007.
[19:08] <SolidSlash> has anyone seen dmoerner here recently ?
[19:09] <gord_> Plz, software starts out as human-written source code, which is then 'compiled' to make binary code for the machine to execute
[19:09] <scrososn> i need help connecting to my router with wlan, iv managed to get ubuntu to pick up my card but it wont connect to the network or scan. I dunno if i need to turn it on or not. (which i usually press fn + F1)
[19:09] <Scunizi> Plz: you get the source code and make a .deb with a compiler.. if you haven't done that .. it's a whole new adventure with its own aggravating twists and learning curve.
[19:09] <Helminthe> Crusader_Tech: good to know. i will venture another try
[19:09] <bertodsera> is there any way I can copy the text of a sys msg from the monitor?
[19:09] <KenBW2> gord_: might give the compiling alsa a miss :P
[19:09] <Helminthe> Crusader_Tech: the "pdf import" plugin is a big selling point for me
[19:09] <Plz> Scunizi: true.. but I got no idea how to do it. Anyway, thanks for the help.
[19:09] <gord_> KenBW2, it's really not all that difficult
[19:09] <bertodsera> Found :) pulseaudio[5686]: main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_NICE, (31, 31)) failed: Operation not permitted
[19:10] <paul68> BlueEagle: are you available?
[19:10] <Crusader_Tech> Helminthe: Here's my situation. I'm the IT guy at a private school. about 150 computers.  We have vista running in our elm lab, our HS lab, elm library, and HS library.  All the rest of the computers, i'm giving heavy thoughts to moving to Ubuntu and OO.o.
[19:10] <gord_> KenBW2, most new users think of compiling as a particularly advanced task requiring programming skill and software expertise... in most cases it's a chain of a few short commands
[19:10] <KenBW2> gord_: File > Change Device. Hello? What's this
[19:10] <Plz> By the way, OpenOffice 3 final are comming in 2 days :D
[19:11] <gord_> KenBW2, if you have multiple sound devices installed you can switch between them in the controller
[19:11] <KenBW2> gord_: ive tried compiling software tens of times. not once have i succeeded
[19:11] <bertodsera> the actual sequence is:
[19:11] <bertodsera> Oct 12 19:00:05 bertodsera-desktop pulseaudio[5681]: ltdl-bind-now.c: Failed to find original dlopen loader.
[19:11] <bertodsera> Oct 12 19:00:05 bertodsera-desktop pulseaudio[5686]: main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_NICE, (31, 31)) failed: Operation not permitted
[19:11] <bertodsera> Oct 12 19:00:05 bertodsera-desktop pulseaudio[5686]: main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_RTPRIO, (9, 9)) failed: Operation not permitted
[19:11] <FloodBot3> bertodsera: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:11] <bertodsera> It started to happen after I tried to pair my bluetooth headset. Now I can't seem to be able to access skype audio preferences anymore. The window simply hangs. (Using 8.10)
[19:11] <gord_> oh god
[19:11] <gord_> !pb
[19:11] <Helminthe> Crusader_Tech: from my 48-hour testing experience with oo3 - it crashes. boy, does it crash often and badly. bu it did recover every single document afterwards
[19:11] <Crusader_Tech> Helminthe: The HS lab and library computers we just got 50 licenses for MS Office 2007, so the HS kids are familiar with what the collages are using. The rest of my students/staff just need something for homework and presentations.
[19:11] <bertodsera> oops, sorry
[19:12] <gord_> KenBW2, did you try compiling in ubuntu?
[19:12] <lucax> bertodsera, system->preferences->sound select alsa
[19:12] <KenBW2> gord_: yea
[19:12] <SolidSlash> has anyone seen dmoerner here recently ?
[19:12] <unlink> i'm using ubuntu 8.10, and when i hit alt-f2 and type a directory name, it doesn't bring up the directory in nautilus (like it used to)
[19:12] <gord_> KenBW2, were you compiling alsa?
[19:12] <KenBW2> gord_: nope
[19:12] <Crusader_Tech> Helminthe: I haven't experianced a crash with OO3 on windows yet.  Very solid.  How long ago did you try it? I was using RC2.
[19:12] <ikonia> SolidSlash: you asked a few minutes ago, this is not meeting point, you can leave a memo for him using memoserv if you want
[19:12] <lucax> unlink, nautilus /folder
[19:12] <alpsy> does anyone know what "export SDL_VIDEO_X11_DGAMOUSE=0" does? it is supposed to fix my issue with evdev and full screen opengl games
[19:13] <Plz> unlink: go to #ubuntu+1 for Ubuntu 8.10 support
[19:13] <unlink> thanks
[19:13] <Plz> unlink: by the way, it`s a common problem.
[19:13] <SolidSlash> ikonia: sorry, but would you mind telling me how to leave a message?
[19:13] <ikonia> SolidSlash: /msg memoserv help
[19:13] <Plz> unlink: No point asking about it. We all got the same problem.
[19:13] <Azhi_Dahaka> ikonia: but will it conflict with apt-get?
[19:13] <Helminthe> Crusader_Tech: other than that, it does import msoffice 2007 docs, has a good powerpoint replacement, and finally can convert msaccess files
[19:13] <bertodsera> thanks :)
[19:13] <kai`> hey guys. i'd like to install wine version 1.6 but there is only version 1.0 available on my ubuntu system. what do i have to do in order to get the newest wine releases all the time (not cvs, only releases)?
[19:13] <SolidSlash> ikonia: thanks.
[19:13] <Helminthe> Crusader_Tech: a lot of good features
[19:13] <ikonia> Azhi_Dahaka: possible conflict against the ubuntu repos
[19:13] <gord_> KenBW2, ok, well compiling alsa is fairly straightforward. I'm willing to bet the issues you had were with unmet dependencies. Unfortunately the compiler doesn't address additional software requirements for the compile. Alsa only needs build-essential for Ubuntu
[19:13] <kai`> i mean wine version 1.1.6
[19:14] <Crusader_Tech> Helminthe: I couldn't get it to recognize access files.  Maybe I have to go through some kind of import process.
[19:14] <KenBW2> gord_: i got sick of trying compiling now
[19:14] <_haywire_> cya Crusader_Tech
[19:14] <MANIAKA7000> kai tryout http://winehq.org
[19:14] <idwer_> hi, where is the menu layout editor of xchat ? I want to set the userlist to "permanently visible"
[19:14] <ichbinesderelch> kai`: there are instructions on the winepage to add their repositories to your source list
[19:14] <Helminthe> Crusader_Tech: well duh
[19:14] <unlink> lucax: yeah, that has the same effect (it brings up VLC sometimes instead)
[19:14] <CaT_MaNz> hello, how can i install DomXML extension on my ubuntu 8.04
[19:14] <Scunizi> Plz: check out for a beginning then google https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall
[19:14] <kai`> help pls :(
[19:14] <bingungaja> can anyone enlite me wheter it's wise to use compiz-fusion in gnome ? is it slow ? or work smothly, please help me
[19:14] <MANIAKA7000> kai tryout http://winehq.org
[19:14] <kai`> i didnt find anything about that
[19:14] <Ozor> how can I remove ? from file names  - I get a "The item could not be renamed." error
[19:14] <Azhi_Dahaka> hmm... there should be a ubuntu repository for unstable and bleeding edge releases
[19:14] <Crusader_Tech> Helminthe: I was hoping it would just pop them open like it does with word, excel, and powerpoint files.
[19:14] <lucax> unlink, 8.10 is beta still...
[19:14] <h4wk0> !package tk8.5
[19:14] <gord_> KenBW2, would you like to try once more? An alternative would be to get an extension cord for your headphones
[19:15] <Plz> Scunizi: Thank you so much :D
[19:15] <Scunizi> Plz: np
[19:15] <Crusader_Tech> _haywire_: cya
[19:15] <unlink> lucax: yeah... i'm interested in helping to fix this issue
[19:15] <mwhit74> haven't been using ubuntu for a while and i forgot how to turn on the cube, with multiple desktops on please help
[19:15] <kai`> MANIAKA7000: well, arent there files included into the ubuntu repo?
[19:15] <Azhi_Dahaka> ok... another question: Is there a way to add a general menu to Gnome?
[19:15] <MANIAKA7000> kai` try http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=6241&package_id=77449&release_id=632185
[19:15] <kai`> MANIAKA7000: dont wanna install it manually always
[19:15] <MANIAKA7000> and compile it yourself
[19:15] <Crusader_Tech> mwhit74: control + alt while pressing left or right arrows
[19:16] <Helminthe> Crusader_Tech: importing previous documents and applications will be a chore. do not expect a simple wizard to fix them all for you, too many features of msoffice are not common enough or documented enough to be present in oo
[19:16] <MANIAKA7000> moment...
[19:16] <Scunizi> mwhit74: do you have ccsm installed?  check under System/Preferances/Advanced Desktop Effects Settings..
[19:16] <lucax> unlink, ubuntu.com has some email to do so
[19:17] <Crusader_Tech> Helminthe: well we don't use access at the school for anything.  I do have a guy i do some side work with, who had expressed interest in switching to Linux.  However, his access database and his Quickbooks needs are stopping me.
[19:17] <lucax> unlink, i dont really know if theres here any ubuntu developer here
[19:17] <KenBW2> gord_: nothing there makes sound come out. although there is a teckbox that says "Duplicate front", which sounds significant
[19:17] <tyso1> anyone, im trying to install frostwire but im being told to upgrade to the latest version of java 1.5..... does anyone have the sudo apt-get camand for that?
[19:17] <mwhit74> Crusader_Tech: already tried it just gives me a "slide show" of the desktops
[19:17] <ikonia> lucax: there are a few
[19:17] <tavi> does someone knows what "user switcher" has quit unespectedly is ?
[19:17] <Crusader_Tech> mwhit74: do you have the cube rotation turned on?
[19:17] <ikonia> tavi: the fast switch application has died
[19:17] <mwhit74> Scunizi: I dont have an advanced desktop effects tab
[19:18] <MANIAKA7000> kai`sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[19:18] <tavi> and?
[19:18] <KenBW2> tavi: equivalent to <program> has performed an illegal operation
[19:18] <_Zeus_> mwhit74: what version are you running?
[19:18] <tavi> mean what more exacly?
[19:18] <ikonia> tavi: and what ?
[19:18] <tavi> aha
[19:18] <antijew> byb23
[19:18] <Crusader_Tech> mwhit74: Scunizi is pointing you in the riht direction.
[19:18] <Scunizi> mwhit74: then open Synaptic and search for "compiz" .. in the results look for compiz-configuration-settings-manager and install that..
[19:18] <Helminthe> Crusader_Tech: for each application and version, check the wine database, quickbooks has no nqtive linux equivalent, so: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=493
[19:18] <tavi> and happes when? cause i didn't do nothing
[19:18] <antijew> jewbuntu
[19:19] <Scunizi> mwhit74: then go back to the menu location I mentioned before and you will have access to the settings.
[19:19] <gord_> KenBW2, try all the options
[19:19] <KenBW2> gord_: i did
[19:19] <Crusader_Tech> Helminthe: I'm going to have to learn more about WINE.  I've seen guys do very intensive tasks in WINE, like running 3D games.  However when I try to use it, it struggles with programs a simple as notepad.
[19:19] <KenBW2> gord_: is it give up time?
[19:19] <gord_> KenBW2, it's compile time
[19:19] <zer0ne> no mods here??
[19:19] <KenBW2> gord_: ill give it a go
[19:20] <KenBW2> gord_: stupid question: where do i download the source
[19:20] <Scunizi> mwhit74: you'll also need to change the setting in System/Preferance/Appearance/Visual Effects to a higher setting.
[19:21] <gord_> KenBW2, alsa-project.org
[19:21] <mwhit74> Scunizi: thanks i can get it from there all i really needed to know was the name of the application to install, i have had it installed before but when i upgraded to the new version of ubuntu i guess i didn't install it
[19:21] <mwhit74> thanks again
[19:21] <Scunizi> mwhit74: np.. have fun
[19:22] <Aggrav8d_> is anyone in here knowledgeable with setting up nameservers?  I need to PM for a couple minutes because I just don't grok a few critical details.
[19:23] <Helminthe> Aggrav8d_: are you running ubuntu server?
[19:23] <stuckey> Hello. I have a RT61 RaLink wireless card, which I'm having some trouble with. It only works at 1 MB/s, and part of the time it freezes up and my internet connection is nearly 0. Could anyone offer me some help?
[19:23] <KenBW2> anyone else any ideas of how to figure out if a headphone jack is there for a reason or just for effect?
[19:23] <Papillon_> Au fait ubuntu avouez vous l'avez trouvé dans une boite à surprise hein ?
[19:24] <lucax> Papillon_, what?
[19:24] <Scunizi> !fr | Papillon_
[19:24] <Aggrav8d_> Helminthe: yes, and i've googled several tutorials, but dnsstuff.com still tells me i've broken everything and i can't access my site online.  i work from the command line.
[19:24] <egoflux> when i move totem while playing a video the video stays in the same place it was until i have placed totem where it's supposed to be...anyone know why this is?
[19:24] <Helminthe> Aggrav8d_: ok, give it a try
[19:24] <InsomniaCity> egoflux: because totem is an abomination
[19:25] <KenBW2> egoflux: bad graphics card/drivers i suspect
[19:25] <Aggrav8d_> Helminthe:  give WHAT a try?
[19:25] <winferno> Hi, I'm interested in using launchpad.net to host a small software project and to become familiar with debian packaging. I'm a little overwhelemed with the 'packaging guide'. Is there an IRC channel that I can go to for help?
[19:25] <Helminthe> Aggrav8d_: the private messaging debugging session :)
[19:25] <egoflux> lol...no, when i take screenshots the video doesn't show
[19:25] <Scunizi> winferno: you might google for launchpad's PPA section for hosting your packages.
[19:26] <Azhi_Dahaka> ok... another question: Is there a way to add a general menu to Gnome?
[19:26] <Scunizi> Azhi_Dahaka: you mean like a "folder" inside of Applications? for storing links to things?
[19:26] <winferno> Scunizi: I have been reading the PPA section on launchpad, I'm a little confused since I see a lot of info seeming to pertain to people modifying other packages, making derivative work, etc.
[19:27] <Scunizi> winferno: from what I understand PPA can host whatever it is you're working on.
[19:27] <gord_> KenBW2, have you downloaded the source?
[19:27] <KenBW2> gord_: which am i going for?
[19:27] <Papillon_> Avec ubuntu, je peux booter avec un doigt dans le cul ?
[19:27] <Khisanth> anybody else experiencing a really bad memory leak issue with FF3 on hardy?
[19:27] <gord_> KenBW2, alsa-driver
[19:28] <mib_mktq920x> can everyone help me? I need a wlan network driver here are some facts: Broadcom bcm4306
[19:28] <Scunizi> Khisanth: nope.. it's been lots better then FF 2.XX
[19:28] <ubuntu> hi everyone
[19:28] <winferno> Scunizi: Yes that doesn't sound like the problem, I'm really looking for a guide (or IRC help) regarding the least distance path to creating a new debian source package.
[19:28] <winferno> Hi ubuntu, lol.
[19:28] <gord_> KenBW2, alsa-lib, alsa-utils
[19:28] <KenBW2> gord_: all of them?
[19:28] <gord_> KenBW2, those 3
[19:28] <ubuntu> whoops ^^
[19:28] <Khisanth> Scunizi: this is a different and much crappy type of leak than the ones in 2
[19:28] <winferno> Scunizi: I'll get back on Google for a while and try again. Thanks.
[19:28] <mib_mktq920x> can anybody help me with my wlan?
[19:28] <Scunizi> winferno: there's a ubuntu-dev mail list that if you join you might get info there.. not really sure..
[19:29] <Khisanth> Scunizi: this is the kind that leaks without you having to do anything
[19:29] <tadzik_> mib_mktq920x: tell more about your problem
[19:29] <tadzik_> mib_mktq920x: what card is it, and so on
[19:29] <mib_mktq920x> Broadcom bcm4306
[19:29] <Scunizi> Khisanth: haven't seen it.. but I also haven't looked for it.
[19:29] <RonzO> hello, i'm trying to get Joint Operations: Typhoon rising to run in wine, but it keeps kicking back a network problem. "An error has occurred attemting to connect to the network system. You may not have enough RAM or you may of some NETWORK SOCKETS blocked. Make sure you are not running other network applications that may take thes resources away. You can reconfigure what sockets this game uses by editing game.cfg. Look for mpgatese
[19:29] <RonzO>  rverlocalport. (Code NWEC15)"
[19:29] <RonzO> my router firewall is off. any ideas?
[19:29] <bunnyto> hi i want to run Windows 2009 in Ubuntu... but i have some problems
[19:30] <mib_mktq920x> ?
[19:30] <RonzO> bunnyto, 2000?
[19:30] <Scunizi> RonzO: I've been trying that for a while.. with no luck.. have you checked out the winehq site?  I don't think they list that program at all
[19:30] <Khisanth> Scunizi: heh this would be hard not to notice unless you have multidigit amounts of RAM, left FF opened overnight with 5 tabs and woke up with it using 2.1GB
[19:30] <tadzik_> mib_mktq920x: have you tried installing anything so far?
[19:30] <RonzO> Scunizi, its there, but don't know if it was ever fixed
[19:30] <Scunizi> Khisanth: wow..
[19:30] <mib_mktq920x> yes but it don't work
[19:31] <Scunizi> RonzO: how did they rate it.. gold, silver, "fo-get-a-bout-it"
[19:31] <perillux> I am having trouble sharing files/folders/printers with samba.. It's just not working but I'm doing everything correctly!!  I think,  can someone pleeeease help me?
[19:31] <tadzik_> mib_mktq920x: what have you installed?
[19:31] <RonzO> Scunizi, it was rated bronze in gutsy
[19:31] <RonzO> Scunizi, installed fine for me, updated fine
[19:31] <Scunizi> RonzO: could be a punkbuster thing
[19:31] <egoflux> it does the same thing with VLC
[19:31] <quittt> where can I see the history of the packages installation?
[19:32] <RonzO> Scunizi, *sigh* i loved the game when i played it back in HS
[19:32] <mib_mktq920x> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#fw-bcm43xx
[19:32] <mib_mktq920x> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#fw-bcm43xx
[19:33] <Scunizi> RonzO: yep.. I've got it installed on my windows half.. haven't had time in the last 2 months to login though. for quick shoot-em-ups I go to alien arena now.
[19:33] <mib_mktq920x> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#fw-bcm43xx
[19:33] <tadzik_> mib_mktq920x: is this sysem installed, or livecd?
[19:33] <mib_mktq920x> can't we talk privat
[19:33] <RonzO> Scunizi, im gonna have to google that
[19:33] <mib_mktq920x> installed
[19:33] <Scunizi> RonzO: you should check out http://www.getdeb.net/category.php?id=3
[19:33] <mib_mktq920x> installed
[19:33] <tadzik_> mib_mktq920x: maybe someone will help here
[19:34] <RonzO> Scunizi, oh hell yea. =)
[19:34] <Azhi_Dahaka> No, like a General Menu... think the Menu on OX
[19:34] <Azhi_Dahaka> OSX
[19:34] <molok> hi *
[19:34] <idefix> if you install software from the repos is it compiled on your own PC?
[19:34] <ikonia> idefix: no, it's pre-packaged
[19:34] <RonzO> Scunizi, know of any military type that are bit like JO?
[19:35] <lenzoid> ah! I can't telnet to localhost 25 and iptables is disabled... why?
[19:35] <RonzO> *big
[19:35] <idefix> ikonia so it's just unpacked
[19:35] <bunnyto> windows 2009
[19:35] <idefix> ikonia but then, what's all this talk about ubuntu software being 'open source'?
[19:35] <ikonia> idefix: pretty much
[19:35] <Scunizi> RonzO: also look at Nexuiz, OpenArena, AssaultCube etc..  JO is like AssaultCube and AmericanArmy
[19:35] <idefix> I have never seen any source code of my software here
[19:35] <idefix> or actually, your software
[19:35] <RonzO> Scunizi, i love you right now. *hands Scunizi a beer*
[19:35] <chaddy> idefix: you can download the source if you want, select for it in synaptic
[19:35] <quittt> I'm tired of Ubuntu instability
[19:36] <idefix> chaddy and then you can compile it too?
[19:36] <chaddy> quittt: then you're tired of life
[19:36] <RonzO> quittt, how is it instable?
[19:36] <chaddy> idefix: if you want, yes
[19:36] <chaddy> idefix: you'd want to install at least build-essential to start with
[19:36] <Scunizi> RonzO: http://americasarmy.filefront.com/file/AASF_Direct_Action_v25_Linux_Full_Install;49654
[19:36] <jimmie32> quittt: Instable? Its not possible unless you are using 8.10 Beta...
[19:37] <zpierreski> Hi all, I have a Intel Corporation 82845G/GL integrated graphics chipset. Every time I try to play hd videos (720p or 1080i), the video crashes. Happens in Xine and VLC. Anyone else had this prob?
[19:37] <jimmie32> quittt: Or you are talking about "crashing"? It does not crash for me.
[19:37] <chaddy> quittt: have you explored such things as memtest to be sure you don't have some iffy hardware?
[19:37] <quittt> no!
[19:37] <quittt> I wake up this morning
[19:37] <quittt> I've got that way
[19:37] <quittt> and see
[19:38] <quittt> I searched it in xorg.conf
[19:38] <quittt> I tried compiling myself the nvidia kernel
[19:38] <quittt> and nothing
[19:38] <quittt> useless
[19:38] <Scunizi> !enter | quittt
[19:38] <RemsSs> hi everybody
[19:38] <chaddy> !ask| quittt
[19:39] <chaddy> hi RemsSs
[19:43] <zpierreski> VLC, xine, and mplayer crash when i try to play HD videos on my  Intel Corporation 82845G/GL with the i810 driver. Anyone know how to fix this?
[19:43] <ichbinesderelch> zpierreski: run it in a terminal and watch out for the error message
[19:43] <rkpisanu> or buy a new pc :)
[19:44] <Helminthe> zpierreski: sorry to burst out like this, but.. buy a decent video card? ;)
[19:45] <zpierreski> Helminthe: Sorry, this is a free compy we're trying to set up as a mediabox. We don't need intense video processing. just enough for watching some tv/movies.
[19:46] <zer0ne>  sad such a friendly place gets trolled so easilly.
[19:46] <jum> hey evryone i search for a free pdf editor, is there someone?
[19:47] <zer0ne> jum openOffice, scribus..
[19:47] <zpierreski> ichbinesderelch: When I play the file with xine, I get the following output--This is xine (X11 gui) - a free video player v0.99.6cvs.
[19:47] <zpierreski> (c) 2000-2007 The xine Team.
[19:47] <zpierreski> X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[19:47] <zpierreski>   Major opcode of failed request:  140 (XVideo)
[19:47] <zpierreski>   Minor opcode of failed request:  19 ()
[19:47] <FloodBot3> zpierreski: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:47] <zpierreski>   Serial number of failed request:  2486
[19:47] <Helminthe> zpierreski: your request would be more than reasonable, but how high is the definition of your HD stream?
[19:47] <crdlb> zpierreski: a newer intel chip would be fine, but that's _really_ old
[19:47] <crdlb> zpierreski: compiz isn't enabled is it?
[19:47] <idefix> if you only allow from main and restricted are you garantueed by the ubuntu crew to never be hacked in your life?
[19:48] <Helminthe> zpierreski: 1080p will crush any machine I currently have available, without serious support from an expensive video card
[19:48] <Jeo_> #join kespa
[19:48] <perillux> can someone please tell me what it means if (using samba) I type "smbtree" and I see all my shares but when it starts listing the shares of my windows machine it keeps saying "timout connecting to ...." and then "error NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED"  and how can I fix this?
[19:48] <zpierreski> crdlb: no compiz enabled
[19:48] <ichbinesderelch> zpierreski: seems to me your hadware is not hd able? ^^
[19:48] <Papillon_> Mais moi je vous le dit, j'ai des preuve sur http://fosdem.3ti.be/ que vous êtes tous des drogués et des alcooliques de programmeurs de merde ! :-)
[19:48] <idefix> sorry
[19:48] <crdlb> zpierreski: please pastebin the output of xvinfo
[19:49] <zpierreski> Helminthe: Oh, I see. I may just have to throw in a newer video card.
[19:49] <Papillon_> Parlez un peut en français, car moi je comprend pas.
[19:49] <Papillon_> faites pas les malins !
[19:49] <node357> !fr | Papillon_
[19:49] <Papillon_> Car je sais que vous parlez parfaitement français !
[19:49] <zer0ne> allez on parles tous francais mais c anglais ici
[19:50] <zpierreski> Helminthe: Is a 2.4 ghz pentium 4 a good enough processor if I add a modern agp graphics card?
[19:50] <zer0ne> ?fr
[19:50] <Helminthe> zpierreski: sorry, I cannot provide any useful info on that particular setup. and "modern" plus "agp video card" don't quite match ;)
[19:52] <RandyboY> I have a rather new laptop. An Acer Aspire 6920. But there are things that isnt good yet.. The touchpad(which controls the sound ie) to the left isnt flawless. It works, but shows the wrong soundvolume (not the worst), and the screen-light buttons (Fn + arrow up/down) isnt working at all. And ofcourse the fingerprintreader also isnt working at all... Anyone knows how to fix all or some of these problems?
[19:52] <drux> hi there
[19:53] <zpierreski> Helminthe: No problem. I'll do a little more research to check out my options. Thanks!
[19:53] <mib_yeiv69h6> hi
[19:53] <drux> can someone help me with getting an AVM WLAN stick working?
[19:53] <mib_yeiv69h6> my ubuntu is installed
[19:53] <mib_yeiv69h6> can someone help me with my wlan
[19:54] <drux> I tried teh wiki several time and just cant figue out where the mistake is
[19:54] <mib_yeiv69h6> please
[19:54] <mib_yeiv69h6> i don't get my wlan can someone help me please
[19:55] <drux> same here :(
[19:55] <Helminthe> mib_yeiv69h6: please try to provide a few more details on your hardware. manufacturer, model, tyope of interface
[19:55] <Helminthe> drux: same there :(
[19:56] <drux> ok, I have ubuntu Hardy 64Bit installed
[19:56] <zer0ne> mib_yeiv69h6:drux:Helminthe: did you try ubuntu forums?
[19:56] <mib_yeiv69h6> Broadcom bcm4306
[19:56] <idefix> is java5 compatible with Seamonkey?
[19:56] <Petskull> how can I compile a binary and distribute it?
[19:56] <Petskull> Distribute it to someone with the exact same setup
[19:56] <Helminthe> zer0ne: no, I personally did not, but my wireless is working
[19:56] <perillux> when trying to view windows shares using samba I keep getting "timeout connecting to...." and "Error NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED"  why is this happening?
[19:56] <mib_yeiv69h6> don't know idefix but i think with grasemonkey
[19:56] <drux> I downloaded the 64Bit XP and Vista driver from AVM and used Ndiswrapper
[19:57] <drux> with the result: driver installed, device present
[19:57] <idefix> mib_yeiv69h6 is that another spinnoff of Netscape?
[19:57] <Helminthe> drux: "alternate driver"?
[19:57] <Petskull> well, actually- from Ubuntu Gutsy vaio laptop to an Ubuntu Hardy Dell laptop
[19:57] <drux> but I dont have any interface to configure
[19:57] <Petskull> can I do that?
[19:57] <RonzO> Scunizi, thanks again. gonna log off of here and go play one of the games...look for me when i headshot. =)
[19:57] <drux> I didnt find an alternative driver for 64Bit
[19:58] <mib_yeiv69h6> I've got an Broadcom bcm4306
[19:58] <mib_yeiv69h6> and i can't find any driver who work
[19:58] <Helminthe> drux: sorry, should have been more explicit: does ndiswrapper also list an alternate river?
[19:58] <drux> in /etc/network/interfaces there's just auto lo
[19:58] <zer0ne> drux: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=735444
[19:59] <bmeynell_> how can I tell what ip address bind is binded to?
[19:59] <smj> mib_yeiv69h6: I had to use ndiswrapper for my Broadcom, but that was a year ago.  You might want to follow Helminthe's suggestion and look into ndiswrapper.
[19:59] <carrera> zer0ne, when was I trolling?
[19:59] <paul68> BlueEagle: are you available?
[20:00] <mib_yeiv69h6> thx
[20:01] <drux> dont know what you mean with "lists" I did: ndiswrapper -i inffile and everything went well, then modprobe ndiswrapper
[20:01] <RemsSs> available its not a charm channel
[20:01] <drux> but I cant find an interface called wlan0 or sth like that
[20:02] <nobody_>  
[20:02] <Helminthe> bmeynell_: besides looking in the configuration file, the only suggestion I have is running strace -d named
[20:02] <kkrusty> Im getting  Initial "auth_alg=0" and" authentication with AP 00:1a:2b:3c:54:08 timed out" with dmesg while trying to connect to a WPA-PSK network any clues?
[20:02] <kkrusty> or do I need to ask somewhere else?
[20:02] <Helminthe> bmeynell_: see what files it opens, and check the options in there
[20:03] <drux> anyone anysuggestions why?
[20:03] <droopsta915> everytime im online, the screen freezes and fades into a grey. anyone have the same problem?
[20:04] <zer0ne> drux : try the b43 driver,
[20:04] <carrera> can some one tell me how I can d/l the 64 bit destop from the cmd line?
[20:04] <Helminthe> drux: please read the thread suggested by zer0ne above
[20:04] <bmeynell_> Helminthe: hmm thanks
[20:04] <drux> zer0ne:kk trying
[20:04] <chaddy> carrera: you'd want to install the 64bit desktop installer iso
[20:05] <gord_> carrera, if you're on 32 bit you cant simply download the 64 bit, you need to download an image... which you can do through commandline using wget or rtorrent with wget to grab a .torrent first
[20:05] <Azhi_Dahaka> Is there a way to add a global menu to Ubuntu? Think the Menu on OSX
[20:05] <drux> so the Fritz!WLAN USB Stick has this broadcom chipset?
[20:05] <chaddy> carrera: wget will let you download it on the command line, I'll get you a link
[20:05] <carrera> gord_, thanks I was looking for the command
[20:05] <carrera> great... thanks chaddy
[20:06] <chaddy> carrera: wget http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[20:06] <carrera> chaddy, gord_, I'm on a very chuppy 128 kb/s adsl but I've access to a more stable 1 gb/s server
[20:06] <gord_> I probably wouldn't wget something so big, I'd probably close the session by accident
[20:07] <chaddy> gord_:  run it in screen
[20:07] <carrera> gord_, it's 11 pm over here and no one has access to that server
[20:07] <carrera> scree?
[20:07] <unlink> wget should be fine, you can always continue with wget -c
[20:07] <unlink> but bittorrent will probably be faster
[20:07] <gord_> chaddy, that's what I typically do for torrents, but I'm too lazy to set up a screen for a wget
[20:07] <chaddy> terminal manager type thingy, carrera
[20:08] <chaddy> sort of like a window manager for terminals
[20:08] <gord_> screen is godly
[20:08] <Helminthe> bmeynell: i am not aware of any one-click application for linux like activeports is on windows. you can do a netstat -l -n and the fuser -v xxx/tcp to see who listens there
[20:08] <gord_> (if you do a lot of cmdline work)
[20:08] <g-pegaso> prova
[20:09] <joshritger> can someone point me to a link for editing grub to show my windows install on another hard drive?
[20:09] <clayg> When I click lock screen or logoff, it sometimes takes a while.  How can I make it instant? On a few occasions It's gotten me in trouble
[20:09] <carrera> chaddy, can I try one of the closer mirrors with wget?
[20:09] <joshritger> I am currently using the bios to pick which drive to boot from and it is kinda a pain
[20:10] <BlueEagle> paul68: You need to edit your configuration files for shorewall even to load up. So I suggest you read the configuration documentation thuroughly and run `shorewall check` a few times.
[20:10] <gord_> carrera, it would probably be faster to download a torrent. 'rtorrent' is an excellent commandline torrent program, run it in a screen and you're set
[20:10] <chaddy> course you can, carrera
[20:10] <daveXX> joshtritger there is a gui fstab edit tool available....give me a second and I can dig the info up for you
[20:10] <chaddy> gord_ is probably right about the torrent, though
[20:11] <gord_> sudo apt-get install rtorrent screen
[20:11] <BlueEagle> paul68: The recomended default policy is to allow everything heading out and blocking everything coming in and then opening for services you want to make availible.
[20:11] <kkrusty> I need to know where I am at with trying to have wifi work on my laptop. I can do a iwlist scan but I cant connect yet. So does this mean that my wlan driver is configured correctly?
[20:11] <paul68> BlueEagle: since I run a specific config I need some guidance if that's possible
[20:11] <paul68> BlueEagle: the noob style please ;-)
[20:11] <gord_> kkrusty, have you tried using the gnome network manager?
[20:12] <BlueEagle> paul68: I am in the middle of watching miami vs huston.
[20:12] <BlueEagle> paul68: I'll be with you after the last quarter. :)
[20:12] <KenBW2> gord_: dunno if the pm is working, im back
[20:12] <joshritger> daveXX: that would be great
[20:12] <kkrusty> gord_: the horrible news is that I dont have display and Im entirely depending on ssh over an ethernet link
[20:12] <kkrusty> gord_: and so I dont have X
[20:12] <paul68> no problem if you have a moment later on the week it's ok for me to
[20:12] <Helminthe> kkrusty: depending on hardware, iwlist may work but will not connect. i know this is the case on apple's macbook pro.
[20:12] <nobody_> can someone tell me how to update nvidia-glx* from  169.12 to 177.80? perhaps other paket sources?
[20:12] <alexis_> hi
[20:13] <idefix> http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/Release.gpg is that repo critical?
[20:13] <daveXX> joshritger try this: gnome-mount ......I'm still looking tho.......
[20:13] <kkrusty> Helminthe: well I have a broadcom 4306 rev 2 adapter
[20:13] <Helminthe> nobody_: either download the beta installer from nvidia.com and blacklist nv, or upgrade to inteprid beta
[20:14] <joshritger> daveXX: will try
[20:14] <paul68> BlueEagle: if I could have your email I can send in any questions I have concerning this config
[20:14] <Helminthe> kkrusty: i don't know what kind of card  that is, madwifi doesn't work?
[20:15] <joshritger> daveXX: I already have that installed, don't think that is what I am looking for
[20:15] <nobody_> @Helmithe: How do i upgrade?
[20:15] <julian> anyone know where or if a torrent is available for a ubuntu install specifically for an xps 1530. i cant find one
[20:15] <aXx> Hello! I'm using xChat. It automatically connects to Ubuntu Server - how can I choose the Server just like mIrc on windows? (need to fileshare, actually)
[20:15] <Helminthe> nobody_: sudo update-manager -d
[20:16] <nobody_> Helmithe: i'll try. thx
[20:16] <daveXX> joshritger I cant find specific screenshots but I did find a reference "Gnome-Mount provides users with a nice GUI to configure mount options"
[20:16] <Helminthe> nobody_: mind you, this will install a lot of updates, not just drivers, and not all are tested
[20:16] <kkrusty> Helminthe: well from the various docs I've consulted Im supposed to use wext
[20:16] <Helminthe> kkrusty: so your problem is wpa, not the wireless driver itself?
[20:16] <kkrusty> Helminthe: frankly theres so many different sources that Im almost not sure which path I followed
[20:17] <nobody_> Helmithe: ok, than i prefer to wait until the new version is stable
[20:17] <qr> Does anyone know why the -liquid-rescale option is not recognized by the imagemagick's convert utility?  It shows up in the online documentation, but the ubuntu package does not seem to support this.
[20:17] <joshritger> daveXX: I think you have miss understood what I am looking for, I can mount my windows file system, I am looking for a way to make grub show my windows install as a boot option
[20:17] <idefix> millions of people, living out their lives...
[20:17] <Helminthe> nobody_: 18 days to go :)
[20:17] <kkrusty> Helminthe: I tried configuring wpa_supplicant and didnt have any luck with it.
[20:17] <live|evil> sieg heil
[20:17] <nobody_> Helmithe: thats fine for me. thank you
[20:17] <jeymz> hello all
[20:17] <daveXX> joshritger I KNOW there is a too for that.....give me a few seconds
[20:17] <zer0ne> joshritger: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:18] <joshritger> daveXX: ok, i guess I miss understood what you were saying
[20:18] <kkrusty> Helminthe: and since my only evidence that wlan was working correctly was the iwlist scan Im considering the possibility that its not configured correctly
[20:18] <gord_> I've been awake for over 24 hours now
[20:18] <jeymz> wow
[20:18] <jeymz> anybody go to the linux fest in Ohio yesterday?
[20:18] <idefix> gord_ that's not healthy man
[20:19] <Indoctrine> !offtopic
[20:19] <daveXX> joshritger I misunderstood you......but I know there is a  tool for what you actually asked
[20:19] <daveXX> give a sec
[20:19] <gord_> I love linux... but I dont love linux to bathe in the pungent odours of the more avid linux users
[20:19] <jeymz> lol
[20:19] <bunnyto> I love Ubuntu!
[20:19] <MXII4> lol
[20:19] <Helminthe> kkrusty: i don't use wpa, so can't help on this one.. my only hint is that on atheros 5418 iwsac works but the interface does not associate unless I blacklist ath9k and ,oad ndiswrapper
[20:19] <jeymz> yeah it wasn't too bad
[20:19] <break_free> I'm having problems with update manager, it tells me that dpkg was interrupted you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. I did that but still get the error
[20:19] <MXII4> Ubuntu is great WHEN IT WORKS!
[20:19] <jeymz> I was actually surprised how many people used Ubuntu
[20:20] <idefix> gord_ I order you to go to sleep now
[20:20] <daveXX> joshritger I think GrubConf will fit your need
[20:20] <bunnyto> since i bought Ubuntu for 200$ , it worth every penny
[20:20] <Indoctrine> gord_: I couldn't sleep so I got up and took photos.
[20:20] <MXII4> IDIOTS MADE GIMP AN ESSENTIAL PACKAGE In 8.04 ubuntu-desktop DAMN YOU
[20:20] <gord_> its too late man... but really, how bad could it possibly be?
[20:20] <ichbinesderelch> break_free: ran it with sudo?
[20:20] <bunnyto> MXII4: Gimp is crap
[20:20] <KenBW2> bunnyto: ++
[20:20] <gord_> gimp is only crap if you were raised using ps
[20:20] <MXII4> bunnyto, if you uninstall it borks ur sistem
[20:20] <kkrusty> Helminthe: no problem and thanks a lot anyway
[20:21] <Indoctrine> I was raised using PS, so I use it with WINE.
[20:21] <break_free> ichbinesderelch: yeah
[20:21] <joshritger> daveXX: is that in the repos? synaptic can't find it
[20:21] <MXII4> Gimp is good, I was testin 2.6 which uninstalled 2.4 which borked ubuntu-desktop
[20:21] <bunnyto> MXII4: just delete the files manually
[20:21] <KenBW2> SVG ftw!
[20:21] <gord_> alsa-base also uninstalls ubuntu-desktop
[20:21] <MXII4> I can't, I have to reinstall 2.4 which i cannot
[20:21] <adityag> ﻿i want to grep an IP address, i want all the ip address, thats *.*.*.* , what do i write in grep -rn '?' .
[20:21] <MXII4> yea, eog does also
[20:22] <clayg> When I click lock screen or logoff, it sometimes takes a while.  How can I make it instant? On a few occasions It's gotten me in trouble
[20:22] <KnomeDE> how do i automatically mount a drive at startup?
[20:22] <MXII4> lotsa stupid stuff, 804 is crappy, i pray 810 will bebetterm but the loks of it show otherwards
[20:22] <gord_> adityag, you dont want all the ip addresses... there are a lot of them
[20:22] <daveXX> joshritger not sure......Im looking to see if I can find you a .deb you can download to desktop and install that way
[20:22] <joshritger> ok
[20:22] <joshritger> thanks
[20:22] <idefix> gord_ why are you still here? go to bed!
[20:22] <drux> the bc43 doesnt work either :/
[20:23] <KenBW2> KnomeDE: add it to fstab
[20:23] <gord_> pfft, I just need more caffeine
[20:23] <adityag> gord_: i want to find out all the ip addresses in one directory
[20:23] <MXII4> I have to wait for the 30th to fix my computer now, or something Aperture beyond 4GB. Ignoring.
[20:23] <MXII4> I haev 2 gb ram
[20:23] <break_free> can anyone help with a dpkg problem. it says it was interrupted and to run dpkg --configure -a, but I still am having the problem
[20:23] <gord_> adityag, I used angry ip scanner in windows for such tasks, never attempted it in linux... I'll see what I can dig up on the net
[20:23] <idefix> gord_ you are damaging mankind as a whole if you do not go to bed, I cannot allow that
[20:24] <gord_> idefix, how so?
[20:24] <KenBW2> KnomeDE: you familiar with that?
[20:24] <idefix> gord_ your productivity will increase if you have a good regular biorhythm
[20:24] <bunnyto> MXII4: but KDE sucks more
[20:24] <KnomeDE> KenBW2: ya, thanks
[20:24] <adityag> gord_:  grep -rn '*.*.*.*' .
[20:24] <daveXX> joshritger still looking
[20:24] <MXII4> GNOME > XFCE> Windowz > KDE
[20:25] <Helminthe> adityag: your question is not related to ubuntu or linux in general, but! besides the usual answer \d{1,3}, you might want to read http://ex-parrot.com/~pdw/Mail-RFC822-Address.html
[20:25] <idefix> HE WENT TO SLEEP HE WENT TO SLEEP!
[20:25] <MXII4> lol
[20:25] <joshritger> daveXX: np
[20:25] <Bladesman> Anyone get their mailserver working with dyndns.com?
[20:25] <gord_> d-_-b<zZzZzZz)
[20:25] <thiebaude> !lol
[20:26] <idefix> gord_ are you swedish or something?
[20:26] <thiebaude> haha
[20:26] <MXII4> !omg
[20:26] <gord_> liek zomg lol srsly dun do that
[20:26] <thiebaude> lol,mxii4
[20:27] <thiebaude> what's wrong with lol
[20:27] <KenBW2> gord_: please see my pm
[20:27] <MXII4> lol, fail, 804 ppl w/ essential gimp omg lol wtf lag
[20:27] <ompaul> !lol
[20:27] <thiebaude> see
[20:28] <ompaul> glad we understand
[20:28] <thiebaude> i have IM capabilities
[20:28] <Indoctrine> Is the threat always enough, ompaul? :P
[20:28] <ompaul> no
[20:29] <bunnyto> Help, what is a good Online game for UBUNTU?? MMORPG?
[20:29] <Indoctrine> !games | bunnyto
[20:29] <gord_> stay away from mmorpgs... you may realize that game designers have thwarted god
[20:29] <Guest74192> what the hell?
[20:29] <zender> can you please tell me how to mount my usbstick cuz it says im not a poweruser wtf
[20:29] <Guest74192> -NickServ- are you out of your mind?!
[20:29] <gord_> !wtf
[20:30] <Arcticfox> good luck running any windows based mmorpgs I've been trying to get WoW to work on ubuntu but i've got no luck haveing some graphics bugs
[20:30] <Flannel> zender: plug it in, it'll automatically mount
[20:30] <thiebaude> gord_:i was about to do that
[20:30] <gord_> I knew some one would ;)
[20:30] <Guest74192> life is so damned unfair
[20:30] <Azhi_Dahaka> Is there a way to add a global menu to Ubuntu? Think the Menu on OSX
[20:30] <thiebaude> o oh
[20:30] <Helminthe> Indoctrine and bunnyto: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_MMORPGs might be a more relevant resource
[20:30] <zender> it didnt.. it appears in my places but says can not mount cuz im not poweruser
[20:30] <Azhi_Dahaka> gnome, even
[20:30] <ichbinesderelch> wow runs just flawlesslywith wine :P
[20:30] <daveXX> joshritger - I am sorry it only appears to be in .gz form that I can find
[20:30] <Flannel> Guest74192: Please keep it on topic
[20:30] <gord_> Azhi_Dahaka, perhaps you're looking for kde
[20:30] <Guest74192> Flannel, who's this new idefix and why is he so important?
[20:31] <zender> please tell me a terminal command to mount my usbstick
[20:31] <joshritger> davexx: ok, I will keep looking, thanks
[20:31] <daveXX> joshritger - that said you can use ALIEN to convert it to .deb so it more easily managed
[20:31] <HDready> !mount
[20:31] <gord_> idefix regulates my sleep schedule
[20:31] <ichbinesderelch> zender: sudo mount /dev/(yourusbstick) /folder/to/mount
[20:31] <Arcticfox> ichbinesderelch: I've been trying to run it but I've haveing some layer and texture problems in game also some lag and I'me useing wine
[20:31] <fdsfds> what will be the kde version shipped with kubuntu 8.10?
[20:31] <ichbinesderelch> Arcticfox: you ran it with opengl?
[20:31] <ompaul> fdsfds, ask in #ubuntu+1
[20:32] <gord_> probly 3.5 for the next 12 years
[20:32] <haamu> wot
[20:32] <ichbinesderelch> Arcticfox: ati or nvidia card?
[20:32] <lakitu> hey - ubuntu is running nicely. just tested a restore from a tar - works great ;)
[20:32] <zender> ichbinesderelch how do i find out which is the name of the usbstick
[20:32] <fdsfds> ok
[20:32] <gord_> 4 did look pretty sexy when I tried it last though
[20:32] <bunnyto> WOW works with UBUNTU
[20:32] <thiebaude> lakitu:you using 8.10?
[20:32] <ichbinesderelch> zender: typ in "dmesg | teil" in terminal, this will give you the device name
[20:32] <ichbinesderelch> zender sorry
[20:32] <cwall0868> can anyone help me with a password reset
[20:32] <Guest74192> I was the first to register the idefix, why is some german nerd misusing my name now??
[20:32] <ichbinesderelch> zender: *tail
[20:33] <Arcticfox> i chbinesderelch: I'm useing intel but my card isn't the problem I've run wow perfectly on this exact computer with winblows just before switching
[20:33] <ompaul> Guest74192, you did not register it, this is offtopic to here
[20:33] <Flannel> Guest74192: Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, not ehre.
[20:33] <Flare183> Guest74192: ??
[20:33] <daveXX> joshritger - I do see it was part of Debian Sid, so if you poke about you may be able to get the package in .deb, and attempt to download and install it...if it fails nothing is harmede
[20:33] <lakitu> thiebaude: no, sorry, that would be more uplifting. i am using Hardy
[20:33] <zer0ne> Arcticfox: the problem is the DRIVER to ru n the card?
[20:34] <zender> ichbinesderelch i get some lines with data..
[20:34] <zender> thats it
[20:34] <joshritger> daveXX: ok, will look, found another app called qgrubeditor which i might try, it is in the repos
[20:34] <lakitu> anyway - i am making a launcher, to run my virus scanner (for ntfs drives), & i want to open a dialog to ask where to scan. how do i open an input box dialog from within a command, & what is the variable name whose value it will return?
[20:34] <ichbinesderelch> zender: some line with /dev/sd?
[20:34] <Helminthe> bunnyto: sorry, but Blizzard games are not supported at all in linux (be it ubuntu or something else)
[20:34] <zender> no
[20:34] <Arcticfox> zerOne: most likely but i'm not very tech savvy I have no idea how to fix it
[20:34] <daveXX> joshritger - that should do it
[20:34] <joshritger> daveXX: thanks for the help
[20:34] <ichbinesderelch> zender: than search the whole output of dmesg for /dev/sd entry
[20:35] <zender> rt_ioctl_giwscan bbs returned data
[20:35] <Flannel> Helminthe, bunnyto: They work fine in wine
[20:35] <bunnyto> Helminthe: i can run fine WOW and WC3
[20:35] <notyjoey> any of you guys know ajax?
[20:35] <Flare183> lakitu: "dialog" might help you
[20:35] <matkix> What is the best way to download vmware workstation?
[20:35] <thiebaude> !ajax
[20:35] <Flare183> !ot | notyjoey
[20:35] <notyjoey> i realize that
[20:35] <zender> ichbinesderelch thx i made it
[20:35] <lakitu> Flare183: yeah, i couldn't find any good examples of input box, tho
[20:35] <notyjoey> but thought i'd ask anyways
[20:35] <notyjoey> you never know ;)
[20:35] <daveXX> joshritger - I also found it  in .deb - www.filewatcher.com.m.gnome-mount_0.6.1ubuntu4_i386.deb
[20:35] <Flare183> umm
[20:35] <Papillon_> Ajax, hééé Charli tu vois ce que je vois ?
[20:36] <cwall0868> #ubuntu-irc
[20:36] <Flare183> ?
[20:36] <thiebaude> salut, papillion_
[20:36] <Flannel> !fr | Papillon_
[20:36] <ompaul> !fr | Papillon_
[20:36]  * Flare183 says What the mess?
[20:36] <Papillon_> salut thiebaude :-)
[20:36] <Azhi_Dahaka> Found it!
[20:36] <Azhi_Dahaka> http://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu/
[20:36] <joshritger> davexx: ok, thanks
[20:38] <daveXX> Can anyone tell me if there would be issues to set up a gateway to channel internet traffic through a single IP and then pass it through to a firewall on the same IP range
[20:38] <matkix> What is the best way to download vmware workstation? The package manager or do I need add a repo?
[20:38] <matkix> !vmware
[20:39] <daveXX> I basically need to centrally monitor bandwidth usage on the network - ISP is capping it
[20:40] <MXII4> SPAM
[20:40] <MXII4> SPAM
[20:40] <MXII4> SPAM
[20:40] <FloodBot3> MXII4: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:40] <Flare183> ?
[20:41] <bunnyto> how to install WOW in UBUNTU?
[20:41] <Flare183> !wow | bunnyto
[20:41] <ompaul> !wow | bunnyto
[20:41] <Flannel> bunnyto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[20:41] <Flare183> hehe ompaul
[20:41] <ompaul> Flare183, I am not sharp today :)
[20:41] <connor_> All of the network applicaions I use say that I hav a firewall on, and I want to turn it off. How can I do this?
[20:41] <Flare183> ompaul: I understand, I can pick up the slack
[20:41] <bunnyto> ompaul: to much weed?
[20:42] <hhos> is it true ubuntu is going to be massively shipped on desktops soon?
[20:42] <aibo> hi, I made do-release-update -d and now want to rollback to previous release, how can i do it?
[20:42] <Flare183> connor_: Why in the world would you want to do that?
[20:42] <Guest74192> http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/Release.gpg: Could not connect to packages.freecontrib.org:80 (34.52.53.34), connection timed out is that error message critical?
[20:42] <misieq> what is the name of graphical tool for gnome similar to kompare/diff?
[20:42] <Flare183> hhos: Yes, from what I hear, but that is OT.
[20:42] <connor_> If I don't want to turn it off, is there some way to configure it?
[20:42] <ompaul> davexx do this: apt-cache search network | grep monitor <<< have a look at these and work out which one suits you best
[20:42] <Flare183> connor_: Yes
[20:42] <Flare183> !iptables | connor_
[20:43] <Flannel> Guest74192: Not critical, no.  You just wont be able to get packages/updates from that repo
[20:43] <connor_> could i get firestarter with "sudo apt-get install firestarter"?
[20:43] <Flare183> connor_: Yes
[20:43] <bunnyto> is Mark Shutlefork owner of Ubuntu?
[20:43] <DamienGray> Whats the command to link two files together
[20:43] <ompaul> !offtopic | bunnyto
[20:43] <Guest74192> Flannel, what repo is it? is it from main restricted uni or multi?
[20:44] <connor_> ok, anywhere i can get help on how to configure it?
[20:44] <Flannel> Guest74192: none.  Its third party.
[20:44] <Guest74192> multi!
[20:44] <Flare183> connor_: Yes
[20:44] <DamienGray> Whats the command to link two files together
[20:44] <jspiro> hi all.  Poll:  have you ever pressed Control+Alt+F1 by accident?  /msg me "yes" or "no", or respond publicly (optionally with a comment) "yes" or "no".  Results soon.
[20:44] <Guest74192> Flannel, ok, do I need it for java?
[20:44] <Flare183> !firestarter | connor_
[20:44] <Flannel> Guest74192: No
[20:44] <Flare183> DamienGray: "ln" I think
[20:44] <connor_> oh, thank you!
[20:44] <ompaul> DamienGray, cat file1 >> file2 puts file2 after file1
[20:44] <Flare183> oops
[20:45] <Guest74192> Flannel thank you
[20:45] <Flannel> jspiro: Please don't do that here.  #ubuntu-offtopic would be a more appropriate place
[20:45] <Scunizi> matkix: vmware workstation I think is a paid version. vmware server is free and there are two versions.. 1.x.x and 2.x beta. I use the 2.x beta version..
[20:45] <bunnyto> why you are forcing me to install WOW?
[20:45] <jspiro> Flannel:  I am about to file a bug requesting that /etc/issue be modified to tell people how to switch back.  Given that, is my poll still offtopic?
[20:45] <daveXX> ompaul I actually know the tool I want to use......I just dont want to have to set the server up to DHCP say 192.168.x.x , then push it to my firewall on say 10.x.x.x - I'd like to retain access to my m0n0wall box from any workstation rather than having to VNC the server to get to the firewall
[20:46] <Guest74192> Flannel, why then do I get this error message? E: Couldn't find package java-sdk
[20:46] <Flannel> jspiro: This is a support channel, not a social/conversation channel.
[20:46] <jspiro> Scunizi, matkix, do you know about VirtualBox also?  It's similar to VMware.  sudo aptitude install virtualbox-ose
[20:46] <Scunizi> jspiro: yes..
[20:46] <Flare183> jspiro: Yes
[20:46] <Flare183> ...wow
[20:46] <Flannel> Guest74192: because there's no package by that name.
[20:46] <Guest74192> jspiro, listen to Flannel
[20:47] <jspiro> Flannel: I will respond to your point in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:48] <Flannel> Guest74192: You probably want sun-java5-jdk
[20:49] <TempNick4> I have a question about sed. Is this an inappropriate place to ask it?
[20:49] <Guest74192> Flannel ok let me try
[20:50] <Cycom> hey, anyone know how to change irssi's foreground text color?
[20:50] <ompaul> !irssi
[20:50] <soundray> TempNick4: go ahead and ask
[20:50] <jspiro> ompaul:  this is a better channel for them to ask in than #irssi
[20:50] <LogicalDash> Hi guys
[20:50] <jspiro> hi
[20:51] <mathieu> http://leldorado.blogspot.com/
[20:51] <jspiro> mathieu: are you a bot?
[20:51] <mathieu> no
[20:51] <jspiro> mathieu: are you advertising?  that isn't allowed here :/
[20:51] <LogicalDash> So apparently kernel version 2.6.27 is out, I'd like to upgrade
[20:51] <jspiro> LogicalDash: why would you ever bother upgrading kernels?
[20:51] <TempNick4> Well, I've spent about a half hour looking at various manuals and help pages, but I still can't seem to figure out how to do what I want.
[20:51] <mathieu> ya d francais ici
[20:51] <jspiro> !fr
[20:51] <LogicalDash> jspiro: to get the latest video drivers >:-P
[20:51] <soundray> LogicalDash: it comes with intrepid -- wait until release (30 Oct), then upgrade
[20:51] <jspiro> mathieu: je parle un peu de francais.
[20:52] <ompaul> jspiro, stop
[20:52] <mathieu> merci
[20:52] <mneptok> mathieu: Anglais seulement ici, STP.
[20:52] <LogicalDash> soundray: hmm, are there betas?
[20:52] <jspiro> LogicalDash:  what is wrong with your current video drivers?  :)
[20:52] <jspiro> ompaul:  stop speaking french?  OK i will
[20:52] <LogicalDash> jspiro: it won't play a particular game in WINE
[20:52] <soundray> LogicalDash: yes. See #ubuntu+1 /topic
[20:53] <TempNick4> What I'm trying to do is change all instances, within a file, of ____.html to ____.php, where there is no .  or / immediately preceding the ____. So, I'd want misc.html to be misc.php, but I'd want www.site.com/misc.html to be unchanged.
[20:53] <TempNick4> This seems perfect for regular expressions, but I just can't seem to phrase it correctly.
[20:53] <Flare183> TempNick4: install bulk rename and try thata
[20:53] <Flare183> taht*
[20:53]  * Flare183 says crap
[20:53] <Exittor> anyone knwo a good gui for mount?
[20:53] <Flare183> that*
[20:53] <Exittor> or a good mount app?
[20:54] <soundray> Flare183: not a good answer -- TempNick4 wants to change file contents
[20:54] <daveXX> Exittor gnome-mount
[20:54] <Flare183> oh ok sorry
[20:54] <TempNick4> Hey, I'm confused too. Thanks for trying. =P
[20:55] <Flare183> np TempNick4
[20:55] <jspiro> ompaul: I admit you are right on what most of what I have said is offtopic.  But as for what I said to LogicalDash:  was there something wrong in me asking why LogicalDash wanted to upgrade kernels?
[20:56] <daveXX> TempNick4 pehaps break it  into 2 operations.....parse out your exceptions to a holding space then using a wildcard to replace the extensions?
[20:56] <TempNick4> Well, I can definitely understand if no one here knows much about sed, but could anyone suggest a better place to ask?
[20:56] <TempNick4> Hmm, interesting idea.
[20:56] <mathieu_> bonjour quelqun parle francais ?
[20:56] <Flannel> !fr | mathieu_
[20:56] <jetscreamer> !fr
[20:56] <jetscreamer> nm
[20:57] <Exittor> daveXX: how do i use it?
[20:57] <soundray> TempNick4: #bash might be a good place
[20:57] <Flannel> TempNick4: You'll need to provide more information about the environment these filenames will exist in.
[20:57] <mneptok> mathieu: Anglais seulement ici, STP. (pour le deuxieme, et finale, temp)
[20:57] <Aggrav8d_> hello!  thanks to nice folk here i was able to fix all my bind/dns errors, but i still don't see my webserver online and mail redirects to google aren't working.  Where do i start to diagnose the problem?
[20:57] <TempNick4> Flannel: This is in a bash shell on a CentOS server.
[20:57] <andresj> hey, I have a computer running from a LiveCD, as a FTP/SSH server that I set up with 5 commands after the CD boots. I don't use that computer except remotely, and only sometimes. The computer goes to sleep after some time (don't know how much--it could be days; i don't use it for days at a time, even remotely), and the only way to use it is to hard-reboot it and set the server up again. any ideas on this?
[20:57] <Aggrav8d_> dnsstuff.com says i have no errors.
[20:57] <soundray> Flannel: he said a text file ( TempNick4)
[20:57] <matkix> jspiro: So how similar is it?
[20:57] <TempNick4> So yeah, maybe bash would be better. Didn't see it.
[20:58] <daveXX> Im not much on sed......I was thinking strictly at shell level......pipe the results of a diff or somesuch to a mv
[20:58] <daveXX> then rename the remainder using the *
[20:59] <soundray> TempNick4: everyone here thinks you're trying to rename files (rather than change occurrences of file names in a text)
[20:59] <Flannel> TempNick4: #[?!/].*?\.html# would match on those html files.
[20:59] <daveXX> ok...gotchya now
[20:59] <daveXX> my bad
[20:59] <TempNick4> Oh, I see.
[20:59] <TempNick4> Flannel: Thanks for the tip. I'll look into that.
[21:00] <Flannel> TempNick4: but again, knowing more about the problem at hand would make it more efficient, that's a rather crude regexp
[21:00] <daszorz> when i try install restricted extras i get an unmet dependencies error
[21:00] <daveXX> Temp4Nick VIM has search and replace......
[21:01] <TempNick4> Well, the trouble isn't searching and replacing.
[21:01] <TempNick4> I want everything matching a pattern.
[21:01] <daszorz> libdlna0: Depends: libavcodec1d (>= 0.cvs20070307) but it is not going to be installed
[21:01] <TempNick4> I want misc.html, llama.html, and foo.html to all become php files.
[21:01] <Chousuke> TempNick4: you want the rename utility
[21:01] <Chousuke> TempNick4: it's able to do complex renames like that.
[21:02] <shohri> hi
[21:02] <orbish> what do you mean by 1 string?
[21:02] <TempNick4> Chousuke: Within a file?
[21:02] <abchirk> hi shohri ... wait.. :P
[21:02] <orbish> crap nevermind that
[21:02] <Chousuke> TempNick4: ah
[21:02] <Chousuke> TempNick4: :s/.html/.php/g
[21:02] <Chousuke> TempNick4: in vim ;P
[21:02] <TempNick4> Chousuke: But I need exceptions.
[21:02] <daveXX> Temp4Nick well I was thinking if you can search the string for *.html and replace w/ .php it may do it
[21:03] <TempNick4> Chousuke: I need it so that foo.html is changed but not http://bar.com/baz.html
[21:03] <daveXX> sorry been a solid decade since I played seriously w/ VIM
[21:03] <Chousuke> hmm
[21:03] <babyju> Hello. I have a problem with software raid on my system. Can anyone help? System is installed on RAID 1, I physically removed one drive and reboot. Readded the drive but cannot get the md0 to resync. All the docs or postings online I have tried fail.
[21:03] <TempNick4> These are webpages and I want external links to still w*ork.
[21:03] <idefix_> Flannel?
[21:03] <idefix_>  (choose the non-update version if this is the first installation).
[21:03] <idefix_> Please visit
[21:03] <idefix_>     http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.html
[21:03] <idefix_> now and download.  The file should be owned by root.root and be copied
[21:03] <FloodBot3> idefix_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:03] <idefix_> to /tmp.
[21:04] <idefix_> #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:04] <Chousuke> TempNick4: that's a bit more complex a regexp
[21:04] <babyju> I am using straight raid 1, no lvm for the md0 (/) and md1(swap).
[21:04] <Flannel> idefix_: Is there a reason you're running dapper?
[21:04] <Chousuke> TempNick4: dunno how to make a replace like that using the vim style.
[21:05] <Chousuke> TempNick4: it is possible though.
[21:05] <matkix> Whats the quickest way to install c compiler? Build-essential?
[21:05] <Sergiu> hi, can anyone help me to change resolution in ubuntu 8.10?
[21:05] <Flannel> matkix: yes
[21:05] <idefix_> Flannel I want to save the environment by not burning so many CDroms but upgrading through downloading is very difficult
[21:05] <Flannel> Sergiu: #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid support, thanks
[21:05] <Sergiu> Flannel, i have there ban and i don't know when i will be unbaned
[21:06] <Flannel> Sergiu: That doesn't mean you can ask here.  You can address your ban in #ubuntu-ops
[21:06] <Flannel> idefix_: It's not that difficult.  And many things are much easier in hardy, including java.
[21:06] <daveXX> Temp4Nick - check www.vim.wikia.com/wiki/Search_and_replace - they have options where it will ask upon finding a match if you wish to replace
[21:07] <idefix_> I'm getting that feeling of the one journalist in the movie "Titanic" when he asks "when can we get on the way dammit!?"
[21:07] <crabgrass> is intuitivenipple on?
[21:07] <crabgrass> bummer, he's not... is there any way to leave a message for him?
[21:07] <idefix_> what a name?! crabgrass, wild
[21:07] <Flannel> crabgrass: /msg memoserv help
[21:07] <crabgrass> heh, thanks.
[21:08] <crabgrass> Flannel: thanks much!
[21:09] <matkix> Someone told me there is something similar to vmware, what is it?
[21:10] <daveXX> matkix Virtualbox
[21:10] <soundray> !virtualization | matkix
[21:11] <voglster> can anyone recoomend a good text based bittorrent client... one that i can attach to screen and forget for awhile
[21:11] <matkix> !kvm
[21:11] <Aggrav8d_> hey, can someone please help me diagnose a DNS problem?  the server is running, dnsstuff.com says everything is ok, but i still can't even ping it from a remote machine.
[21:11] <soundray> Dreamglider: any luck with the faster CPU?
[21:11] <matkix> !VirtualBox
[21:11] <Dreamglider> soundray, yes i did get better thanks :)
[21:11] <voglster> Aggrav8d_: firewall?
[21:12] <idefix_> Flannel, I don't want to be asking to the known road but well upgrading to Hardy is probably easiest by burning a CD, but then where's installation CD on the web? is it impossible to upgrade step by step by downloading the upgrade?
[21:12] <idefix_> I don't want to be asking to the known road but well upgrading to Hardy is probably easiest by burning a CD, but then where's installation CD on the web? is it impossible to upgrade step by step by downloading the upgrade?
[21:12] <Flannel> idefix_: What?
[21:12] <idefix_> oh
[21:12] <daveXX> Aggrav8td - yeah...firewall is first thing i'd check
[21:12] <idefix_> well, the question
[21:13] <Dreamglider> soundray, it is a athlon xp 2000+ and is suppose to be 1.67GHz but it was only 1.2 so i had to fiddle around with the bios to get it up to 1.6GHz
[21:13] <usser_> j #ubuntu+1
[21:13] <Flannel> idefix_: You can updgrade through the internet, without a CD.  to upgrade with a CD, you need the alternate CD.
[21:13] <usser_> err
[21:13] <soundray> Dreamglider: oh, you're probably using an Athlon XP CPU on a pre-XP board
[21:13] <ohgodnotanother1> hi everyone. I have some trouble overburning a CD with GnomeBaker. perhaps somebody can help me?
[21:13] <Sergiu> it is possible to change screen resolution with xorg?
[21:13] <Sergiu> xorg.conf
[21:13] <Dr3mro> any one here use kde4.1
[21:14] <Flannel> Dr3mro: Try #kubuntu-kde4
[21:14] <soundray> Sergiu: try with 'gksudo displayconfig-gtk'
[21:14] <gaintsura> hey all, is there a way to run ifconfig eth0 10.0.1.1 && ifconfig eth0 down && ifconfig eth0 up [ when I log in]
[21:14] <Dreamglider> soundray, yea maybe, i dont know the mobo
[21:14] <ohgodnotanother1> GnomeBaker displays 703.13MB of 703.12MB (Overburning). But when I click "Burn" it says that there is not enough space on the medium.
[21:14] <matkix> Whats the easyest way to install vmware workstation on ubuntu?
[21:14] <ohgodnotanother1> anyone had the same problem?
[21:15] <Dreamglider> soundray, i guess ill have to get a 2GHz to get the playback perfect.
[21:15] <Sergiu> soundray, in ubuntu 8.10 bash says command not found:)
[21:15] <gaintsura> ohgodnotanother1: thats because thats too much overburn for that cd
[21:15] <soundray> Dreamglider: what kind of video file is it?
[21:15] <gaintsura> not all cd manufacturers keep the same amount of 'extra' space on the cd
[21:15] <soundray> Sergiu: ask in #ubuntu+1 if you're running intrepid please
[21:15] <Dreamglider> *.avi
[21:15] <Dreamglider> soundray, *.avi
[21:16] <matkix> !vmware
[21:16] <ohgodnotanother1> gaintsura: well it's 0.1 MB to overburn. that's not too much is it?
[21:16] <gaintsura> actually, its 3.13 mb of over burn, cds only go (by default, no overburn) to 700
[21:16] <mroc> hi.  i installed 8.04 desktop as a dual boot.  i upgraded to intrepid.  i'd like to just do a plain reinstall of 8.04.  the installer keeps stopping at the partitioner stage and infinitely trying to load.  anything i'm doing wrong here?
[21:17] <gaintsura> ohgodnotanother1: try taking about 1MB off of your compliation and try again
[21:17] <Dreamglider> soundray, do you know the nominal temperature range for tyhe athlon xp2000+ ?
[21:17] <guren> hey guys
[21:17] <guren> can i get some grub bootup help?
[21:17] <soundray> Dreamglider: the Theora codecs are generally quite CPU efficient. It may be worth trying to recode a piece of your .avi to Ogg Theora and see if that plays better. You will lose a bit of quality, though
[21:17] <ohgodnotanother1> gaintsura: I don't think you are right here. when the project is empty it shows my 0B of 703.12 MB remaining. so it must be 0.1 MB overburn
[21:17] <soundray> Dreamglider: no, but that kind of info should be on the AMD web site
[21:17] <leila-> help guys
[21:18] <guren> when i try to boot up i get error 15 file not found
[21:18] <guren> now im on the live cd :(
[21:18] <soundray> Dreamglider: mind you, it's not going to mean much, as the Athlon and Athlon XP CPUs don't have an internal temperature sensor
[21:18] <gluonman> Pleas help. I've tried it all. I can't install, make, and modprobe madwifi. I've been awake all night long surfing instructionals on forums, etc. Nothing is freaking working.
[21:18] <gaintsura> ohgodnotanother1: like I said, every cd-r manufacturer makes theirs differently, so that may be too much
[21:18] <Sangha> xD
[21:19] <Dreamglider> soundray, im getting a reading of 55*C from the CPU now with no load
[21:19] <Sangha> ya du peuple ici
[21:19] <Sangha> lol
[21:19] <guren> hello?
[21:19] <Dreamglider> and about 60-63 under 100% load !
[21:19] <gaintsura> allo!
[21:19] <ohgodnotanother1> gaintsura: it's not that simple to make the compilation less in size, because it is one single AVI file :(
[21:19] <soundray> Dreamglider: sounds reasonable, assuming that the sensor sits on the heatsink
[21:19] <gaintsura> ohgodnotanother1: so get a video editor and cut like 5 seconds off the end
[21:20] <Dreamglider> soundray,  no sensor on the heatsink
[21:20] <Cycom> Dreamglider: is that supposed to be high or low?
[21:20] <Cycom> Dreamglider: what kind of processor is it?
[21:20] <Dreamglider> perhaps it's under the cpu, inside the socket
[21:21] <guren> can anyone give me some help?
[21:21] <Dreamglider> amd athlon xp2000+
[21:21] <soundray> Dreamglider: if it's an onboard sensor, it'll be closer to the CPU die, so it's even better
[21:21] <Cycom> unlikely, Dreamglider, it'd be nearly useless under it
[21:21] <gluonman> Does anyone have any knowledge of installing madwifi to support a D-Link WNA-2330 PCI wireless card in Ubuntu 8.04.1 Hardy Heron (kernel=2.6.24-19-386)?
[21:21] <soundray> Cycom: yes, the sensor sits under the CPU in most Athlon boards ( Dreamglider)
[21:21] <gluonman> Please. I've been up all night long trying to figure this out.
[21:22] <Cycom> soundray: no way :/ what's the point of having it there?
[21:22] <Sergiu> !ops
[21:22] <Flannel> Sergiu: hmmm?
[21:22] <BoomShaka> I'm using terminator to have various consoles open in one window. however some of the paths that i am "in" are really long. is there a way to hide the full path at the console prompt just for a specific "console view" in terminator?
[21:22] <jussi01> Sergiu: ?
[21:22] <Myrtti> Sergiu: what are you up to
[21:23] <soundray> Dreamglider: for what it's worth, I'm running a "media centre" type machine with an Athlon CPU at 1.7 GHz at around 65 C. It's been working reliably for years, even under load (video recoding)
[21:23] <gluonman> madwifi anyone?
[21:24] <Sergiu> it is possible to modify screen resolution with xorg.conf in ubuntu 8.04?
[21:24] <soundray> Cycom: those CPUs don't have an internal sensor, so under the CPU is the closest you can get, unless you integrate the sensor in the heatsink.
[21:24] <Cycom> soundray: blech.
[21:24] <Dreamglider> i can set the freq thing in bios up to 150MHz but if i set it higher than 135MHz as soon as ubuntu starts to load it hangs.
[21:24] <orbish> i installed 8.10 beta1 on my refrigerator and it says i'm out of milk, but I have 1 gallon in there
[21:25] <Sergiu> jussi01, nothing, i wanted to know to ubuntu ops channel ))
[21:25] <jack_> can somebody tell me how to best secure my computer, i have just installed ubuntu on it and the iptables config file is nowhere to be found
[21:25] <Sergiu> the*
[21:25] <Sergiu> not the list of operators
[21:25] <Flannel> orbish: Please don't do that here.
[21:26] <gluonman> Does anyone at all know anything about madwifi?
[21:26] <soundray> Dreamglider: these CPUs don't tolerate bus overclocking too well
[21:26] <soundray> !anyone | gluonman
[21:27] <gluonman> soundray, I asked my question several times before I resorted to that.
[21:27] <soundray> gluonman: you've been here long enough to know how to ask a good question
[21:27] <Petengy> hi to all
[21:27] <gluonman> soundray, like I said, I did ask the question.
[21:27] <gluonman> soundray, I just didn't get a response the first few times.
[21:27] <Petengy> I need some help to understand how to remove an app I installed by a .bin installer ...
[21:28] <Dreamglider> ill just have to do with this pc till i get my laptop back from the repair shop, then it's back to windows :/ ever since 6.10 i have not been able to install ubuntu on it
[21:28] <aibo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/263295 i am getting such messages as here, but i am using ubuntu-server, how can i fix it?
[21:28] <soundray> gluonman: ask it again, and put all the relevant information into one line
[21:28] <jack_>  can somebody tell me how to best secure my computer, i have just installed ubuntu on it and the iptables config file is nowhere to be found
[21:28] <gluonman> soundray, here we go again.
[21:28] <soundray> Dreamglider: give it another chance with intrepid
[21:29] <Azhi_Dahaka> I'm looking for an easy to configure amp stack... i don't want to manually install each package and tweak every configuration by hand, just a quick amp stack for development... i'll worry with the server later
[21:29] <Dreamglider> soundray,  interpid ?
[21:29] <soundray> !intrepid > Dreamglider
[21:29] <Maahes> I'm looking for a guide on how to theme my xterm or how to setup awesome or xmonad for ubuntu. Awesome kinda works for me right now, xmonad does not work out of box from the universe packages
[21:29] <gluonman> I'm attempting to install madwifi and modprobe it. I'm using Ubuntu 8.04.1 Hardy Heron with Linux-headers-2.6.24-19-generic. I've attempted searching instructionals on the forums, etc. but that has done me no good after a night of toiling. Might anyone be able to assist me in installing madwifi?
[21:30] <idefix_> Edgy Eft is an out of control spin off, a dead end, a showstopper from which no continuation is possible
[21:30] <Dreamglider> i will give 8.10 a spin see if it works :)
[21:30] <SudoKing> How do you install a package from a .deb?
[21:30] <soundray> gluonman: have you actually tried to compile an experimental version of the madwifi driver?
[21:30] <jack_> can somebody tell me how to best secure my computer, i have just installed ubuntu on it and the iptables config file is nowhere to be found
[21:30] <gluonman> soundray, I've tried too many things to count.
[21:30] <soundray> Dreamglider: one of the objectives was to improve laptop support
[21:30] <soundray> gluonman: what's the latest driver version that you tried to compile?
[21:31] <gluonman> soundray, this all started when I was advised by someone, whose name I forget, to remove any older version of the kernel and only keep my latest one. This had to do with running out of space and cleaning things up. After a system restart, my D-Link WNA-2330 PCI wireless card, which worked for the last year, stopped working.
[21:31] <gluonman> soundray, I don't even know the latest one.
[21:31] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone helpt me identify the horisync and vertrefresh for a relisys tl766 tft monitor please?
[21:31] <powerjuce> what is a flashdrive refered to in ubuntu sdb1 or sd1?
[21:31] <ibrahim>  I would like to activate power saver function of radeon driver. I have add DynamicClocks in the device section in xorg.conf. But It does not make difference, any suggestion about that?
[21:32] <dunk_k7> boa tarde turma
[21:32] <gluonman> soundray, my mind is wiped. I've been up consistently trying to get this to work for the last 9 hours.
[21:32] <dunk_k7> td blz
[21:32] <powerjuce> soundray: powerjuce: what is a flashdrive refered to in ubuntu sdb1 or sd1?
[21:32] <Flannel> !br | dunk_k7
[21:32] <idefix_> Flannel, it think you can upgrade directly from 6.06 to 8.04
[21:32] <dunk_k7> I'm sorry,
[21:32] <Flannel> idefix_: because you can.
[21:32] <powerjuce> Flannel: what is a flashdrive refered to in ubuntu sdb1 or sd1?
[21:32] <soundray> gluonman: that might be why you're unable to answer my fairly straightforward question. Give it a rest for a few hours.
[21:32] <jack_> can somebody tell me how to best secure my computer, i have just installed ubuntu on it and the iptables config file is nowhere to be found
[21:32] <judas> powerjuice: sdb1
[21:33] <TempNick4> Flannel: Found another solution, but thanks again =)
[21:33] <Dreamglider> sounds good indeed :)
[21:33] <gluonman> soundray, unfortunately, I'm in kind of a rush to get this working.
[21:33] <powerjuce> judas: wat the does the b stand for?
[21:33] <Flannel> powerjuce: it'll be sdX#  where X is a letter and # is a number (# will almost always be 1)
[21:33] <Flannel> powerjuce: the letter is the drive letter, starting at a and going up for each drive you have.  then the number is the partition number on said drive.
[21:33] <gluonman> soundray, that's probably why I seemed frustrated from the get-go signing onto #ubuntu, for which I apologize.
[21:33] <powerjuce> ahh
[21:33] <powerjuce> ok thanks
[21:33] <soundray> gluonman: after that, try the instructions on the Ubuntu help site that is specific to the Eee PC. This machine has a somewhat difficult Atheros chip that will only work with the latest madwifi driver.
[21:34] <soundray> *are
[21:34] <gluonman> soundray, I'll take a look at that.
[21:34] <usser> gluonman, install intrepid it has support for eee wifi
[21:34] <idefix_> "dapper-updates" software channel?
[21:34] <idefix_> how to enable?
[21:34] <soundray> gluonman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC/Fixes -- scroll down to Workaround: Madwifi
[21:34] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone please help me
[21:34] <gluonman> usser, is it stable?
[21:35] <gluonman> soundray, thank you.
[21:35] <idefix_> Flannel "dapper-updates" software channel? how to enable?
[21:35] <linny> Pirate_Hunter: ask your question
[21:35] <Flannel> idefix_: Go to software properties, and enable it.
[21:35] <usser> gluonman, i had no problems so far with it... running it for a week on my eee
[21:35] <soundray> gluonman: no, it is beta
[21:35] <PEAKTOP> W: Не удалось получить http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-2.6.24-21-generic_2.6.24-21.42_i386.deb
[21:35] <PEAKTOP>   301 Moved Permanently ???
[21:35] <gluonman> soundray, that's what I thought.
[21:35] <soundray> gluonman: 18 more days
[21:35] <usser> gluonman, the only thing wifi requires is u put blacklist ath_pci in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[21:36] <Akazawa> hey guys, I am having issues with apt-get. IT seemed to crash during an install and won't remove the halfway installed cdemu-daemon. This is when I try to apt-get -f install: http://rafb.net/p/8L11bM99.html and this is when I try to remove it: http://rafb.net/p/A21lHW41.html
[21:36] <kyle__> I would like to consider giving my laptop to someone else. What should I do before I give it to them?
[21:36] <soundray> gluonman: you're not actually on an Eee PC, are you? It seems I got usser on the wrong track, sorry.
[21:36] <idefix_> Flannel just enable the four types of repos you mean?
[21:36] <usser> soundray, oh i see sorry then
[21:37] <gluonman> soundray, usser, that's true, I'm not using an Eee PC.
[21:37] <soundray> usser: I just thought that the instructions would come in handy
[21:37] <Pirate_Hunter> linny, just hoping someone can help me figure out the horizsync and vertrefresh for my monitor (relisys tl776) i need it to set my res correctly, would you be able to help apparantly google is giving me many useless links
[21:37] <Flannel> idefix_: No.  Alright, lets do it another way.  Please pastebin your sources.list (/etc/apt/sources.list)
[21:37] <usser> gluonman, but you do have atheros wifi
[21:37] <soundray> gluonman: one other suggestion...
[21:37] <Maahes> If I use chsh -s /usr/local/bin/zsh will this effect startup scripts?
[21:38] <usser> gluonman, in any case you have better shot with intrepid with quirky new hardware
[21:38] <gluonman> usser, that's correct
[21:38] <soundray> gluonman: you were saying that it was working previously -- was that with an older kernel?
[21:38] <gluonman> soundray, shoot
[21:38] <gluonman> soundray, yes.
[21:38]  * soundray bang
[21:38] <soundray> gluonman: what version?
[21:38] <gluonman> soundray, I attempted to re-install that older kernel, but it didn't work.
[21:38] <gluonman> soundray, 2.6.24-16
[21:38] <soundray> gluonman: is that installed at the moment?
[21:38] <idefix_> Flannel http://paste.ubuntu.com/56789/
[21:39] <gluonman> soundray, it is not.
[21:39] <linny> Pirate_Hunter: sorry i cant help but if you keep asking in here someone will :)
[21:39] <D3RGPS31> is there a support channel for quake3 on ubuntu
[21:39] <matkix> What do I need to install a .bundle fuile?
[21:39] <matkix> file*
[21:40] <idefix_> Flannel are you going to counterpost it?
[21:40] <BlueEagle> D3RGPS31: Q3 has got native linux executables doesn't it?
[21:40] <soundray> gluonman: you haven't accidentally turned off wifi in the BIOS setup?
[21:40] <Flannel> idefix_: Replace that with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/56791/
[21:40] <idefix_> ha you did!
[21:40] <gluonman> soundray, I was trying to clean my system before. I removed residual config packages, etc. And I decided to keep my latest version of the kernel and discard older ones. This was at a suggestion I received. Unfortunately, I didn't think about the wifi driver thing, so after I restarted this problem started.
[21:40] <gluonman> soundray, I did nothing with BIOS
[21:40] <D3RGPS31> BlueEagle: yes, but i'm having trouble with the game
[21:40] <Pirate_Hunter> linny, np
[21:41] <idefix_> Flannel, THAT COMPACT?!
[21:41] <Flannel> idefix_: yep, that's all you need.
[21:41] <matkix> What do I need to install a .bundle file
[21:41] <BlueEagle> D3RGPS31: If you're a bit more spesific I guess I could atleast point you in the right direction. Also please read http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Quake3
[21:42] <soundray> gluonman: if it was my system, I'd get an intrepid CD, boot a live system from it and see whether wifi works with that. Then if it does, upgrade to the beta.
[21:42] <gluonman> soundray, yeah, that makes sense.
[21:42] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone helpt me identify the horisync and vertrefresh for a relisys tl766 tft monitor please?
[21:43] <soundray> gluonman: please imagine that I had given all the appropriate warnings about pre-release software
[21:43] <idefix_> Flannel, how do I ensure I have all updates applied before I upgrade?
[21:43] <gluonman> soundray, I understand, and I'm aware of the implications.
[21:43] <aibo> where module list located in ubutu?
[21:43] <idefix_> Flannel is that in synaptic or in the upgrade manager?
[21:43] <idefix_> update manager *
[21:43] <gluonman> soundray, beta releases are mostly for bug-spotters and developers.
[21:43] <chaddy> aibo: lsmod
[21:44] <soundray> gluonman: okay. Good luck... For me it's wife time now :)
[21:44] <gluonman> soundray, I understand that.
[21:44] <gluonman> soundray, thank you.
[21:44] <mrpockets> Where does evolution store its Email files?
[21:44] <KenBW2> does ssh provide a way to view a whole screen remotely?
[21:44] <aibo> chaddy, i mean where is the list? i wanna edit it
[21:44] <chaddy> KenBW2: nxclient and nxserver are very good for that
[21:44] <chaddy> not free, though
[21:44] <D3RGPS31> BlueEagle: thanks =D
[21:44] <chaddy> s/f/F/
[21:44] <guntbert> Pirate_Hunter: did you look at http://www.fixya.com/support/p394459-relisys_tl_766_white_monitor ?
[21:44] <KenBW2> chaddy: resource hungry i bet
[21:45] <chaddy> quite the opposite, you can use it over dialup
[21:45] <idefix_> Flannel when checking ubuntu whines about that one offline repo again
[21:45] <BlueEagle> D3RGPS31: By all means. It was the most promising link given by googling for quake3 linux
[21:45] <Flannel> idefix_: then you didn't replace it.
[21:45] <idefix_> the sources.list file! I did!
[21:45] <aibo> chaddy, ?
[21:45] <MXfail> How co I connect to a router with bash?????
[21:46] <idefix_> does it need restarting after the replacement?
[21:46] <huma1> hi, how to extract video stream from megavideo.com?
[21:46] <huma1> with bash
[21:46] <chaddy> aibo: do you want to change which modules are loaded at boot?
[21:46] <aibo> chaddy, exactly
[21:46] <KenBW2> chaddy: i meant for the client
[21:46] <idefix_> Flannel, does it need restarting after the replacement?
[21:46] <chaddy> aibo: try /etc/modules
[21:47] <Pirate_Hunter> guntbert, will try that hopefully it works ty
[21:47] <chaddy> KenBW2: I meant "quite the opposite"
[21:47] <idefix_> http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/Release.gpg: Could not connect to packages.freecontrib.org:80 (34.52.53.34), connection timed out
[21:47] <BlueEagle> huma1: I'm not sure that you can.
[21:47] <KenBW2> chaddy: is it less resource hungry than VNC?
[21:47] <FarmCretin> hi, i'm using rtorrent and got this. can anyone tell me what it means?
[21:47] <Flannel> idefix_: pastebin your sources.list now
[21:47] <FarmCretin> http://pastebin.com/m61b1f15e
[21:47] <aibo> chaddy, there is just 3 modules but when i am executing 'lsmod' I get like 30
[21:47] <chaddy> KenBW2: I'm not the font of all wisdom, do some research
[21:48] <chaddy> KenBW2: you could man ssh for starters
[21:48] <huma1> BlueEagle: Why is it possible with youtube? Is it because of the get_video.php is at the site's root?
[21:48] <idefix_> hmm, it didn't save or something
[21:48] <idefix_> flannel
[21:48] <BlueEagle> !segfault
[21:48] <KenBW2> chaddy: i did
[21:48] <matkix> I've downloaded the latest vmware workstation and its in a .bundle file... How do i open this?
[21:48] <guntbert> Pirate_Hunter: yw, btw I just used google, searched for tl766, and the 6th link led to there :)
[21:48] <Cycom> matkix: chmod +x it and then run it.
[21:48] <KenBW2> chaddy: those man pages are as clear as mud sometimes
[21:48] <Flannel> idefix_: right, you need to use sudo to open it.  alt-f2 then in there: `gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"`
[21:49] <BlueEagle> FarmCretin: A segmentation fault is almost always caused by broken software. This being a torrent client I would assume a memory buffer is not being properly checked.
[21:49] <chaddy> KenBW2: you have google, too
[21:49] <FarmCretin> BlueEagle:  so should i recompile or somethhing?
[21:49] <Cycom> matkix: did that work for you?
[21:49] <BlueEagle> FarmCretin: If possible I would recomend trying an older version, another client or (perhaps first) download the torrent from another source.
[21:50] <BlueEagle> FarmCretin: I would recomend using the packaged version of rtorrent.
[21:50] <chaddy> aibo: you might want to look at /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[21:50] <FarmCretin> BlueEagle:  it doesnt have xml-rpc enabled
[21:50] <aibo> chaddy, it's not there
[21:50] <Pirate_Hunter> guntbert, huh, no way i did the same got many tabs open
[21:51] <chaddy> aibo: what are you trying to do?
[21:51] <BlueEagle> FarmCretin: are you using a stable or unstable source tarball?
[21:51] <Azlx> how do i upgrade my nvidia driver?
[21:51] <BlueEagle> FarmCretin: Are you using optimisation flags?
[21:51] <FarmCretin> stable as far as i now
[21:51] <aibo> chaddy, to figure out who is loading uvesadb when i don't need it
[21:51] <Danskmand> Howdy :-) - How can I turn on the option to show me the line number I am currently on in vi ?
[21:51] <idefix_> Flannel, what's this talk? Version 0.85: * Don't unload nsc-ircc on suspend
[21:51] <chaddy> aibo: does it matter who if you can blacklist it?
[21:51] <FarmCretin> BlueEagle:  no idea of optimisation flags. i followed the install tutorial
[21:52] <aibo> chaddy, i've tried. but result is same
[21:52] <BlueEagle> FarmCretin: Did you pass something like -O3 to the make command?
[21:52] <guntbert> Pirate_Hunter: its ok, I didn't mean that you were not looking yourself :), sometimes it depends on the search term AND the settings (language, filter,...)
[21:52] <BlueEagle> ...or configure
[21:52] <FarmCretin> BlueEagle:  no
[21:52] <FarmCretin> yes
[21:52] <FarmCretin> configure
[21:53] <BlueEagle> FarmCretin: Where did you find this install tutorial?
[21:53] <FarmCretin> ./configure with c++ enabled or something allong those lines
[21:53] <FarmCretin> http://www.wtorrent-project.org/trac/wiki/wTorrentInstall
[21:53] <idefix_> Flannel?
[21:54] <idefix_> how and why would I unload nsc-ircc on suspend ?
[21:54] <Phantomas> hello! Do i have to configure any firewall to make vsftpd work?
[21:54] <perlsyntax> i try to compi;e xdotool i cd and i try to make it but i get a error is that odd?
[21:54] <Pirate_Hunter> guntbert; i was using relysis tl766-ru horisync as a search term than tried adding ubuntu, oh well at least you were around to help me which is good
[21:54] <idefix_> ne1 else? how and why would I unload nsc-ircc on suspend ?
[21:54] <BlueEagle> FarmCretin: You're using the svn-version (read: development version) of rtorrent. Breakage is to be expected. Try getting a stable tarball.
[21:55] <FarmCretin> aha
[21:55] <FarmCretin> BlueEagle:  thanks, i'll get to it
[21:55] <jokerzangel> hello
[21:55] <Phantomas> I mean except router do i need to open the port in any firewall or sth???
[21:55] <Pirate_Hunter> guntbert, it works it works viva, bueno, you are a darling
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> hey guys
[21:55] <perlsyntax> i try to compile this xdotool and it tell me to untar it i did that and cd the dir and then type make and i get a werid error andone help me?
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> does anyone access Lotus notes webmail with firefox?
[21:56] <guntbert> Pirate_Hunter: glad to be of help :), I usually try to keep my search-terms as short as possible in the beginning
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> perlsyntax: whats the error say?
[21:56] <perlsyntax> where can i paste it?
[21:56] <Phantomas> Anyone to help me?
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> !paste | perlsyntax
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> !ask | Phantomas
[21:56] <Azlx> how do u upgrade my nvidia driver?
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> Azlx: sudo apt-get upgrade will upgrade it if its installed
[21:57] <BlueEagle> Azlx: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:57] <Phantomas> ActionParsnip: i already asked my question :)
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> Phantomas: look at when i came in the room ;)
[21:57] <chaddy> Azlx: if its the nvidia proprietary driver go to their site and get the newest version
[21:57] <Pirate_Hunter> guntbert, will take your advise
[21:58] <guntbert> Phantomas: its easier for others if you keep your whole question on one line
[21:58] <guntbert> Pirate_Hunter: :)
[21:58] <Phantomas> ActionParsnip: oh yes you came after a while... my question is: Do i have to configure any firewall to make vsftpd work? I mean except router do i need to open the port in any firewall or sth???
[21:59] <perlsyntax> http://paste.ubuntu.com/56794/
[21:59] <Phantomas> guntbert: ok i will remember that :)
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> Phantomas: if you have firewall you will need to allow all connections from anywhere to connect to the vsftp service
[21:59] <Azlx> i have it dled, how do i make it run?
[21:59] <idefix_> what happened to Flannel?? did he die on us?!!
[21:59] <perlsyntax> there my error link
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> perlsyntax: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[22:00] <perlsyntax> thanks
[22:00] <Phantomas> ActionParsnip: i dont know if i have a firewall :S i have heard about iptables... but i am not sure if i have it installed
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> !nvidia | Azlx
[22:00] <kyle__> how do i get hardware information on ubuntu?
[22:00] <kyle__> Phantomas, you have a firewall
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> Phantomas: if you havent configured it, you dont have it
[22:00] <idefix_> poor Flannel, you cannot decide where you are born, but you can decide where you live and where you die
[22:00] <kyle__> Phantomas, iptables is installed by default
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> kyle__: a firewall with zero config is as good as having no firewall
[22:01] <kyle__> idefix_, Can you say that in #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[22:01] <Phantomas> kyle__: so do i need to open a port to make the ftp server available?
[22:01] <Maahes> how do you install urxvt?
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> !info urxvt
[22:01] <idefix_> kyle_ oh sure, someone dieing is "off-topic" how can you be so insensitive?
[22:01] <ReyRey> i know this isn't a ubuntu thing.. but has anybody had any luck merging two gmail accounts? I keep getting an error saying the pop access is denyed but its another gmail account? and yes password is correct lol
[22:01] <kyle__> idefix_, it isn't related to ubuntu support.
[22:02] <Maahes> it certainly does exist, I just can't figure out how to reference it directly
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> Maahes: whats it do?
[22:02] <idefix_> when does one suspend when upgrading ones ubuntu version?
[22:02] <IOA> hey, does anyone know of any screen recording programs for Ubuntu? 7.10, preferably.
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> Maahes: http://linux.die.net/man/1/urxvt
[22:03] <kyle__> idefix_, i sincerely apologize for being harsh
[22:03] <P3X-018> Is Shorewall better than Firestarter?
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> Maahes: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/x11/rxvt-unicode
[22:03] <Maahes> found it, it's under rxvt-unicode
[22:03] <idefix_> kyle__ never mind, but when does one suspend when upgrading ubuntu??
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> P3X-018: both do the same thing essentially
[22:03] <mattinsley> I love when I come in here to ask a question and I figure out the answer myself right before I ask it!
[22:03] <kyle__> idefix_, confusing question.
[22:04] <mattinsley> Yya!
[22:04] <mattinsley> Yay!
[22:04] <IOA> eh?
[22:04] <ompaul> mattinsley, ?
[22:04] <Maahes> hey ompaul who was bluefoxx and why did I get a ctcp from them?
[22:04] <idefix_> what is acpi-support?
[22:04] <ompaul> Maahes, no idea on either count, they are not here now
[22:04] <kyle__> Maahes, it was sent to all of us
[22:04] <IOA> Are there any screen recording programs for ubuntu?
[22:05] <D3RGPS31> BlueEagle: you use quake3 on ubuntu?
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> !recordmydesktop
[22:05] <IOA> hm.
[22:05] <IOA> well
[22:05] <IOA> I've used that, it's just that it doesn't record in .avi
[22:05] <kyle__> !info recordmydesktop
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> IOA: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=466671
[22:05] <kyle__> !info recordmydesktop feisty
[22:05] <IOA> okay.
[22:05] <elninja> There's at least one open-source Q3 engine.
[22:05] <IOA> well
[22:05] <IOA> will it be able to record in .avi?
[22:05] <IOA> or just .ogg
[22:06] <guntbert> !who | IOA
[22:06] <kyle__> !info recordmydesktop gutsy | ActionParsnip
[22:06] <Maahes> should I be using .Xdefaults or .Xresources to theme my default term?
[22:06] <kyle__> ActionParsnip, it's there in 7.10
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> kyle__: wrong dude, dude
[22:06] <idefix_> I understand if you lose power while upgrading your ubuntu version all hell breaks lose, but what does acpi-support have to do with that?
[22:07] <Maahes> or does it even matter?
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> idefix_: it can make youur system not hibernate after idle time
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> Maahes: ive not customised ever. Id websearch
[22:07] <solexious> [q] What folders from root should i not back up in ubuntu?
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> idefix_: so your hardrive doesnt power down or stuff like that
[22:08] <albuntu> strange problem. the led for my wlan in my laptop says it is connected but i cant navigate. i can connect through eth0 but not wlan0
[22:08] <IOA> alright thanks to whoever gave me that link thing, I'll be on my way again :3
[22:08] <IOA> bye :o
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> IOA: np man ;)
[22:08] <kyle__> solexious, From "root" - what do you mean by "root"?
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> albuntu: ry disconnecting the ethernet then pulling network down then up
[22:08] <trend> yo
[22:09] <solexious> kyle__: when in the / dir what should i not include, i.e. /etc or /media etc
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> kyle__: i believe / is meant by root
[22:09] <Maahes> ah, .xdefaults is deprecated
[22:09] <trend> how can I tell which 3ware raid card I have in my rig? I dmesg and it just gives me 3w-xxxx: scsi0: Found a 3ware Storage Controller at 0xd000, IRQ: 16
[22:09] <kyle__> solexious, hang on
[22:09] <idefix_> what is nrc-ircc?
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> trend: lspci
[22:09] <carrera> Greetings!
[22:10] <idefix_> sorry, what is nsc-ircc
[22:10] <idefix_> ?
[22:10] <trend> ActionParsnip great thanks :P
[22:10] <trend> :)
[22:10] <solexious> kyle__:  ty
[22:10] <idefix_> what does it stand for (nsc-ircc)?
[22:10] <carrera> to d/l with rtorrent with full throttle do I just run rtorrent filename.torrent?
[22:10] <jlilly> carrera: yep
[22:10] <carrera> tanks jlilly
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> idefix_: http://www.business.com/directory/computers_and_software/software_applications/server_software/internet_relay_chat_irc/weblistings.asp
[22:11] <carrera> I'm on an extremely choppy line which disconnects every 5 mins or so
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> carrera: man rtorrent
[22:12] <trigpin> carrera,  not sure if need or want but here very good rtorrent tutorial http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/05/02/howto-use-rtorrent-like-a-pro/
[22:12] <carrera> I ran rtorrent in the foreground and was subsequently disconnected. Does it continue running?
[22:12] <carrera> great... thanks trigpin
[22:12] <idefix_> you mean the changes from Dapper to Edgy is that it does not unload this (XChat) on suspend?!!
[22:12] <carrera> this is a great room
[22:12] <kyle__> solexious, well, the answer is to exclude these dirs: /proc /lost+found /mnt /sys, and also exclude the backup file itself
[22:12] <idefix_> what kind of antfuck detail is that!?
[22:13] <dr_willis> idefix_,  i belive that no one has a clue what you are talking about..
[22:13] <guntbert> !language | idefix_
[22:13] <idefix_> excuse my language
[22:14] <sanesto> hello every body , i dont have a sound in the openal games like enemy territory or america's army, so can you help me. i have ubuntu hardy, amd64
[22:14] <sanesto> thx in advance
[22:14] <losher> carrera: in my experience, rtorrent won't continue in the background. I run it in a vncserver session...
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> sanesto: do you have sound in everything else
[22:14] <sanesto> yes
[22:14] <solexious> kyle__:  Thank you
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> carrera: you could send it to the background with & then bring it forward later
[22:15] <lakitu> hey, i just installed fglrx for my ati radeon HD 2600, & now i have enabled 'big desktop' mode for dual monitors, using the control panel. problem is, this is way too huge! i can't see the text. how do i do a custom resolution?
[22:15] <carrera> losher, ps -ef shows the process when I logged back in
[22:15] <lakitu> (is that possible?)
[22:15] <dr_willis> carrera if rtorrent is console based. you can keep it in the background after you log off using 'screen' :) screen is worth learning to use anyway..
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> sanesto: did you tell your game which sound server to use
[22:15] <carrera> ActionParsnip, I was thinking of doing just that.
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> carrera: makes sense to me
[22:15] <idefix_> it says at the details-changes of my software update window * Don't unload nsc-ircc on suspend... what is meant by that?
[22:15] <albuntu_> ActionParsnip : doing force-reload or restart i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/56797/
[22:16] <sanesto> no
[22:16] <carrera> ActionParsnip, what makes sense?
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> albuntu_: does wlan get dhcp?
[22:16] <losher> carrera: shows what I know...
[22:16] <albuntu_> ActionParsnip : what do you mean ?
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> carrera: bringing it background / foreround as needed
[22:16] <trigpin> can anyone recomen any hosting serverices which are cheap ?
[22:16] <sanesto> ActionParsnip: i dont know if i can do that in this game
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> albuntu_: if you bring the network up, does the wireless get dhcp?
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> sanesto: id check the configs
[22:17] <carrera> would restarting rtorrent start the d/l from the beginning?
[22:17] <idefix_> the lid is that the CD-rom?
[22:17] <DocUSN-USMC> anyone know a great battery management application
[22:17] <pbn> Hello, how can I (re)configure the supported locales on Ubuntu 8.04 ? dpkg-reconfigure locales or dpkg-reconfigure console-setup ... aren't the answer... locale-gen
[22:17] <idefix_> why is it that always when your 95% done with something here people stop answering your questions?
[22:17] <pbn> Hello, how can I (re)configure the supported locales on Ubuntu 8.04 ? dpkg-reconfigure locales or dpkg-reconfigure console-setup ... aren't the answer... locale-gen has a list of locales, but where does it find it ?
[22:17] <carrera> when I do a long listing it shows the max file size and I don't see a dir or temp file
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> carrera: if you send it to the background then bring it forward you arent stopping or starting the process
[22:18] <losher> carrera: no. rtorrent will check the existing file and only download the parts you don't already have
[22:18] <shubbar> i have a program running and its status is "uninterruptiable" i cannot even kill it
[22:18] <carrera> great... thanks losher
[22:18] <shubbar> how can i stop it?
[22:18] <carrera> ActionParsnip, I know that but I've lost my original terminal and have logged back in
[22:18] <carrera> so all i have is the process id now
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> shubbar: sudo kill <pid>. use ps -ef to find its pid
[22:18] <losher> carrera: (bear in mind I was wrong last time). But all torrent clients I know work this way. You'll see if as 'checking' when you restart
[22:18] <idefix_> why is life so recursive?
[22:19] <dr_willis> idefix_,  aparently a driver for the Infrared stuff, has issues with suspend/hibernate - is what i am getting from the google hits  i am reading.
[22:19] <sanesto> ActionParsnip: i cant do anything with the game's configs
[22:19] <idefix_> nsc-ircc is something Infrared?
[22:19] <losher> carrera: because life is just a form of life...
[22:19] <dr_willis> idefix_,  thats what a quick google says. --> Driver for the NSC PC'108 and PC'338 IrDA chipsets
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> sanesto: sure you can, what game is it again?
[22:20] <dr_willis> idefix_,  http://tomoyo.sourceforge.jp/cgi-bin/lxr/source/drivers/net/irda/nsc-ircc.c
[22:20] <carrera> losher, ?
[22:20] <sanesto> ActionParsnip: enemy teritory
[22:20] <albuntu_> ActionParsnip : on ifconfig wlan0 down and ifconfig wlan0 up everything seems ok
[22:20] <losher> carrera: Q: why is life so recursive A: because life is just a form of life...
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> sanesto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=644194
[22:21] <carrera> losher, in my case life seems to be more iterative as I keep making the same stupid mistakes - even the costly ones
[22:21] <carrera> :)
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> sanesto: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/gaming-games-multimedia-entertainment/19228-sound-doesnt-work-enemy-territory.html
[22:21] <Bunshin_> i have a bcm43xx driver for ubuntu hardy wifi and want to get kismet working, the error being sent is that i'm unable to put it into monitor mode
[22:22] <carrera> where does rtorrent keep it's temp files please?
[22:22] <losher> carrera: We all do some of that :-). Some of us are slow learners :-)
[22:22] <DocUSN-USMC> anyone know of any programs that will undervolt your laptop when u pull the power to save life
[22:22] <sanesto> ActionParsnip: thx i'll try it
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> sanesto: seems the editing of /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss works great
[22:22] <trigpin> anyone recomend any hosting servises ?
[22:22] <dr_willis> carrera,  it may be time to read the rtorrent docs/guides/homepage  - i imagine its configurable..
[22:22] <sanesto> ActionParsnip: ok thx vry much :)
[22:23] <losher> carrera: rtorrent data is in-place, so to speak. There's also a "session" directory for keeping torrents that are in progress. That's about it...
[22:23] <dr_willis> carrera,  http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/wiki/RTorrentUserGuide
[22:23] <carrera> i don't see the session dir
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> carrera: or run it at startup then connect to it with web interface
[22:23] <albuntu_> ActionParsnip : on ifconfig wlan0 down and ifconfig wlan0 up everything seems ok
[22:23] <losher> carrera: both are configurable. Let me know if you want to see my config file
[22:23] <carrera> thanks dr_willis
[22:23] <natalisushka> Hi, I need help setting up wireless connection between two laptops running ubuntu. I followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/ShareEthernetConnectionThroughWireless but didn't succeed. Anyone can help?
[22:23] <shubbar> actionparsnip, how can i search for its pid by name?
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> shubbar: ps -ef | grep <part of the name>
[22:24] <carrera> ActionParsnip, can I connect to it now that's running?
[22:24] <carrera> losher, please show me
[22:24] <idefix_> dr_willis thx
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> carrera: fg <pid>
[22:26] <carrera> I restarted rtorrent and it's Checking hash now
[22:26] <shubbar> actionparsnip, still sudo kill pid didn't stop it
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> carrera: tasty hash ;)
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> shubbar: sudo kill -9 <pid>
[22:26] <losher> carrera: http://paste.ubuntu.com/56799/
[22:26] <carrera> ActionParsnip, actually I did fg [job number]
[22:26] <carrera> thanks losher
[22:27] <losher> carrera: not much to it. You can do much more of course, but for basic downloading, it's all you need...
[22:27] <BHSPitLappy> I just installed Xubuntu 8.04 on an older PC, and fonts are displaying excessively huge (normal fonts are displaying in the 100px-200px range).  Has anyone heard of this problem before?
[22:28] <carrera> losher, upload_rate?
[22:29] <Flannel> idefix_: Those are just the changes that are being applied with the updates.
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> BHSPitLappy: websearching now
[22:29] <vltor> ect
[22:29] <vltor> jeez
[22:29] <losher> carrera: adjust it from the main screen using the keys: a s d and z x c
[22:29] <albuntu_> anyone that can help me with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/56797/
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> BHSPitLappy: I am doing this through Applications -> Settings -> Settings Manager, which brings up the Xfce settings manager. Then I bring up User Interface, on the right hand side of which has an option for Font and Font DPI:. The latter defaults to "System Default", setting it to some value corrects the font display issue for me.
[22:29] <BHSPitLappy> ActionParsnip, I've done some of that already and found some issues with certain monitors' DPI info
[22:29] <m1r> hello
[22:30] <klaue> hi
[22:30] <shubbar> actionparsnip, didn't work, i think i will restart the pc
[22:30] <BHSPitLappy> ActionParsnip, oh, are you having the same problem?
[22:30] <idefix_> Ubuntu assumes I have a laptop
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> BHSPitLappy: i wouldnt play with it until you have gonfigured the video card properly
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> BHSPitLappy: that was a paste from a site
[22:30] <Flannel> idefix_: It doesn't assume anything, but the software has to be able to work with a laptop or a desktop.
[22:30] <losher> carrera: lowercase adjusts u/l speed, capital letters adjust d/l speed. You can't adjust individual torrents, just the overall speed
[22:30] <BHSPitLappy> ActionParsnip, how do I do that in Xubuntu hardy?  I opened up Xorg.conf, and it didn't even have a driver specified
[22:31] <Discerer> any ideas on how to make a windows drive bootable again through ubuntu? something with gparted?
[22:31] <trend> how can I remove all my *.m3u files in a dir and subdir?
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> BHSPitLappy: you need to run lspci then you will know your graphics card, yuo can then websearch from theer
[22:31] <BHSPitLappy> (I'm using an ATI Radeon.)
[22:31] <trend> nm..
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> trend: find -name *.m3u -exec rm {} \;
[22:31] <trend> oh.. heh, nice
[22:31] <mrpockets> hey guys
[22:31] <m1r> problem with 2 realtek 8319 lan cards, both detected but have error , using 8.04 x64 fresh install + latest upgrade. cards are functionable.
[22:31] <mrpockets> anyone famaliar with a windows .PST file?
[22:31] <mrpockets> for outlook
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> trend: run it from where you wanna start searching
[22:32] <BHSPitLappy> ActionParsnip, well, even if I want to use the built-in "ati" driver, I don't know where that is set.
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> !ati | BHSPitLappy
[22:32] <BHSPitLappy> Like I said, Xorg.conf is stripped away, and I'm unfamiliar with XFCE's configuration applets
[22:32] <Stevko> ActionParsnip: "*.m3u" (with quot. marks) i believe would be better
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> Stevko: why so?
[22:32] <BHSPitLappy> I know just where to go in GNOME, but not in this (distorted) XFCE
[22:33] <klaue> hey, could someone maby help me with a little problem about themes I have? Google diddn't help..
[22:33] <klaue> *maybe
[22:33] <Stevko> ActionParsnip: If there were *.m3u files in directory where it is run, their names would be substituted for *.m3u
[22:33] <steve__> I've been having trouble connecting wirelessly - it's not a new problem I guess but can't find a solution
[22:33] <trend> hmm
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> Stevko: why whould they be substituted, if the name fits the filter then it would be removed. I dont get what you are saying?
[22:34] <elcMawr> Hello, what's the ewasiest way to get DVDs to play on Hardy? I think I need libdvdcss2 & w32codecs, but it's not clear how to get them.
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> BHSPitLappy: you need to run lspci then find out how to configure xorg.conf from that
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> BHSPitLappy: what graphics card does it have?
[22:34] <Flannel> !dvd | elcMawr
[22:35] <BHSPitLappy> ActionParsnip, I know how to change xorg.conf's settings, but the weird thing is that my current xorg.conf /doesn't have settings in it/
[22:35] <trend> ActionParsnip; is this valid as well? find -name *.m3u -exec chown root:root {} \;
[22:35] <elcMawr> thx ubottu i'll take a look
[22:35] <trend> i'm just going to make them be owned by root and then chmod 000
[22:35] <gnu> bonsoir
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> trend: looks ok to me
[22:35] <klaue> elcMawr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[22:35] <trend> sweet, thanks
[22:36] <trend> doing it now.. you're a pretty smart guy
[22:36] <Stevko> ActionParsnip: Try to make directory directory test with subdirectory subtest and create a.m3u in test and b.m3u in subtest. Then run your command (find -name *.m3u -exec rm {} \;) in test directory and you will see
[22:36] <losher> !fr | gnu
[22:36] <trend> how long you been ubuntuing?
[22:36] <Uplink> how can i open my recycle bin?
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> trend: you could make a test folder with subfolders and files and have a play
[22:36] <trend> yeah, prob should do that
[22:36] <elcMawr> thx klaue
[22:36] <carrera> ctrl-z doesn't seem to be sending rtorrent to the bg. any ideas?
[22:36] <klaue> Uplink: either click on the symbol on the bottom right or go to trash:/// in the file browser
[22:36] <steve__> About 2wks but not so new to Linux
[22:36] <Stevko> ActionParsnip: it will remove only a.m3u from there
[22:37] <dr_willis> carrera,  use rtorrent with screen.. is a very handy thing to do
[22:37] <Uplink> klaue: i need the location :|
[22:37] <united_pot_smoke> hi
[22:37] <Flannel> !trash | Uplink
[22:37] <carrera> thanks
[22:37] <jspiro> carrera: could you run rtorrent next time like this?  "rtorrent &"
[22:37] <Uplink> Flannel: ty
[22:37] <FuzzplugJones> i've got a new ubuntu server install, tried to install amavis and it tells me i have no fqdn.  Only way I can figure out to set one is by installing nis, it asks me for a fqdn but then fails trying to connect to a YP server, which I don't have.  What am I doing wrong?
[22:37] <klaue> Uplink: it's /home/USER/.local/share/Trash/files for me
[22:37] <elcMawr> hey i wish Ubuntu could play DVDs out of the box!!!!! maybe one day....
[22:37] <marcello> hello!!
[22:37] <nowimproved>  I want to simply change the cron tabs to cron.hourly, to run every minute
[22:37] <jspiro> carrera: does that work for you?  (I don't know anything about rtorrent.)
[22:37] <jspiro> marcello: hi
[22:37] <united_pot_smoke> i'm using ubuntu interpid, and how to install vlc media player 0.9.2?
[22:37] <ghis> hi everybody
[22:37] <nowimproved> All I should have to do is use this, right "01 * * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.hourly", what am I missing?
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> Stevko: deleted them all for me
[22:38] <losher> elcMawr: the issues are political, not technical...
[22:38] <carrera> jspiro, that's what I did. then I did "fg [1]". Now I can't send it to the bg again
[22:38] <elcMawr> ok losher
[22:38] <LjL> !intrepid > united_pot_smoke    (united_pot_smoke, see the private message from Ubotu)
[22:38] <LjL> ahum, i have a somewhat strange question. is there any display manager that would allow *forcing* to choose between a gnome and a kde session, with neither being default?
[22:38] <elcMawr> thanks, bye
[22:39] <united_pot_smoke> ok.. thanks for help my friend...
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> Stevko: http://pastebin.com/m61f924a4
[22:39] <jspiro> carrera: ah.  so it must trap the Unix signal for suspending, which IIRC is SIGSTOP.  I wonder why.
[22:39] <bunnyto> !beryl
[22:40] <jspiro> united_pot_smoke: if you would like a tip, please join me in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:41] <klaue> Does someone know what to do when a metacity theme (after correctly installing it) does not show up in the themes list nor is it somewhere in the customize menu..
[22:41] <Stevko> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/m773212ec
[22:41] <jspiro> klaue: please tell us all what you did to install the theme
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> Stevko: so why doesnt it do both?
[22:41] <DocUSN-USMC> is there any ubuntu programs that support my built in fingerprint reader?
[22:41] <Uplink> so i have a gtk2 theme installed on my ubuntu and its not letting me install any other theme on my firefox... what can i do?
[22:42] <losher> jspiro: rtorrent uses a bunch of control chars. It might be deliberate to avoid accidental ctrl-z's. I don't think it's really designed to be backgrounded. Its meant to be run under screen or vnc
[22:42] <klaue> jspiro: I choosed install in the themes menu, selected the tar.gz and hit OK. it told me it was correctly installed. it's also in .Themes in my home folder
[22:42] <jspiro> DocUSN-USMC:  I don't know.  But I do know that fingerprint readers are a huge hassle.  Consider sticking with regular passwords instead :)
[22:42] <DocUSN-USMC> lol
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> DocUSN-USMC: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_enable_the_fingerprint_reader
[22:43] <snot> administrator@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdd3 /mnt/old/
[22:43] <snot> mount: unknown filesystem type 'linux_raid_member'
[22:43] <snot> administrator@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdd3 /mnt/old/ -t ext3
[22:43] <snot> mount: /dev/sdd3 already mounted or /mnt/old/ busy
[22:43] <FloodBot3> snot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:43] <Esquilo> I can't transfer files to my MP4 player. ôÔ Does anybody know why it?
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> DocUSN-USMC: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinkFinger
[22:43] <mifritscher> hi
[22:43] <jspiro> klaue:  then I don't know.  Try re-asking.  If no luck, ask on the metacity channel.  I don't know if that's here or on irc.gnome.org
[22:43] <ghis> anybody can some experience about install xen on ubuntu 8.04?
[22:43] <snot> anyone got an idea about how to solve that?
[22:43] <mifritscher> how can I change the primary monitor using grandr?
[22:43] <Stevko> ActionParsnip: because when you run find -name *.m3u -exec rm {} \; in directory with a.m3u, what is really run is "find -name a.m3u -exec rm {} ;" (*.m3u is replaced by all files in current directory ending with .m3u and \; is transformed to just ;
[22:43] <klaue> jspiro: thanks anyway :)
[22:43] <snot> it is a raid memeber partition I*m trying to mount
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> snot: its already mounted where you want it
[22:43] <snot> and not so long ago I could mount it like that
[22:43] <Uplink> Flannel: i have a gtk2 theme installed on my ubuntu and its not letting me install any other theme on my firefox... what can i do?
[22:44] <jspiro> losher:  is Ctrl-Z a key that rtorrent actually uses, in order to carry out a certain action in rtorrent??
[22:44] <snot> ActionParsnip: sadly, no :)
[22:44] <Esquilo> I can't transfer files to my MP4 player. ôÔ Does anybody know why it?
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> snot: then sudo umount the mountpoint
[22:44] <jspiro> !gq > Esquilo    [ Esquilo, we need more info :) ]
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> Stevko: yes, but both files end with .m3u
[22:44] <snot> administrator@ubuntu:~$ sudo umount /mnt/old/
[22:44] <snot> umount: /mnt/old/: not mounted
[22:44] <snot> ActionParsnip: :(
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> snot: run mount on its own to see whats going on
[22:45] <snot> ActionParsnip: nothing related to sdd...
[22:45] <trend> anyone know what the largest pata drive out is? is it just 500gigs.. i need to replace a leg in my 3ware aray.. and thinking i might as well go w/ 2 new large ones
[22:45] <snot> or mnt/old for that matter
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> trend: you may find 750Gb
[22:45] <losher> jspiro: I don't think ctrl-z is used. It could be ncurses trapping it...
[22:46] <snot> ActionParsnip: no idea what todo? I even rebooted...
[22:46] <Stevko> ActionParsnip: but second is in subdirectory, so the program expanding *.m3u (which is shell in this case - most likely bash) does not find that. And find does not even know there was asterisk (*) in command line. But if in current directory is no *.m3u file, then find actually gets *.m3u
[22:47] <jspiro> losher: vim and htop both uses ncurses, and both support Ctrl-Z.  ncurses only traps the signal if an app tells it to :)
[22:47] <songexe> is there a easy way (read: not formatting) that I can change my 64-bit ubuntu to 32 bit?
[22:47] <jspiro> songexe: i doubt it.
[22:47] <losher> jspiro: then that settles it. rtorrent must be explicity disabling ctrl-z
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> trend: http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_id=22089&category_id=111&manufacturer_id=0&tid=st3750640a
[22:47] <elcMawr> klaue, ubottu -- YOU ROCK -- thanks for the help with Installing libdvdcss2 (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs). GOD DAMN CONTENT SCRAMBLING
[22:47] <jspiro> songexe: why do you ask?
[22:48] <songexe> jspiro: cause' that's exactly what I want to do.
[22:48] <trend> Stevko I think that find m3u command worked.. all of mine are gone
[22:48] <jspiro> elcMawr: ubottu is a computer program.  The people who answer questions here fill the bot with information.
[22:48] <jspiro> :)
[22:48] <elcMawr> lol OMG
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> snot: id remount the drive somewhere else, id add a line to /etc/fstab so its automatically mounted
[22:48] <mbb> considering using alien to install bluefish 1.16 unstable - avail for Fedora 5,6,7,8,9 - which has best chance?
[22:48] <dr_willis> !botsnack
[22:48] <klaue> elcMawr: Welcome. It's nice when I, a bit of a noob myself, are able to help others
[22:48] <songexe> jspiro: i'm just tired of random small things being unsupported in 64
[22:49] <elcMawr> respect to you matey
[22:49] <songexe> or just more difficult.
[22:49] <Stevko> trend: I might work, but not always. And it might seem strange for someone who does not know how it works.
[22:49] <jspiro> songexe: fair.
[22:49] <dr_willis> mbb,  it may be best to use the source.
[22:49] <trend> ActionParsnip heh, yeah just saw that one myself.. i see a couple on ebay.. thanks for all your help
[22:49] <snot> administrator@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdd3 /snot -t ext3
[22:49] <snot> mount: /dev/sdd3 already mounted or /snot busy
[22:49] <snot> ActionParsnip: I just want to mount it somewhere...
[22:49] <jspiro> songexe: there are ways to reinstall ubuntu without clobbering /home
[22:49] <jspiro> if that helps.
[22:49] <trend> Stevko, yeah thanks for speaking up.. interesting conversation..:)
[22:49] <jspiro> songexe: there are also ways to back up your apt selections (the get-selections command line option is one)
[22:49] <jspiro> songexe: what else would you want to back up?
[22:49] <songexe> jspiro: well, it'll be on the exact same partition space and everythign
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> snot: add it to /etc/fstab to mount automatically and reboot, you wont have to mess round mounting it yourself. You may also find its already there
[22:50] <songexe> jspiro: not much, i suppose.
[22:50] <songexe> jspiro: i wouldn't even be opposed to completely formatting the partition
[22:50] <snot> ActionParsnip: ok, thanks for the support
[22:50] <songexe> since it's a fairly fresh install anyway
[22:50] <natalisushka_> Guys, anyone can help me with wireless between two ubuntu laptops? I followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/ShareEthernetConnectionThroughWireless and I got the a wireless connection created on the server laptop. The other detected the connection. When i click on it, I am prompted to enter passphrase. I don't know what must be chosen, passphrase, hex or ascii? Also what authentication must i select? Open System or Shared Key?
[22:50] <natalisushka_> I entered the proper ip, subnet, gateway and dns on the other one also in the wireless connection section in the network manager, but still can't connect to the internet that the server is connected to. What is missing? Please advice
[22:50] <Stevko> snot: If it says it is already mounted - did you try to umount it?
[22:50] <elcMawr> ;)
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> natalisushka_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=376283
[22:51] <jspiro> losher: you should ask in #rtorrent.  If nobody answers after an hour or so, then file a bug.  type !bug for bot help
[22:51] <jspiro> (type that in this channel, not there)
[22:51] <jspiro> losher: i can also help you file a bug.
[22:51] <jspiro> but I will not file it for you.
[22:51] <snot> Stevko: yeah
[22:52] <kane77> I would like to set my computer to go to sleep after few minutes of inactivity, but this computer acts as a router for one other computer, is there a command I could run on the second computer to disable suspend?
[22:52] <losher> jspiro: it's carrera's issue, not mine. I run rtorrent in vnc and never background it...
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> kane77: you could ssh over to make the change
[22:53] <kane77> ActionParsnip, yup, but what change?
[22:53] <Stevko> snot: I though so but just had to ask. (I believe it does not show when you run mount without parameters)
[22:53] <Stevko> !help
[22:53] <losher> songexe: if you keep /home on a separate partition, there's only about a dozen files in /etc you need to save to recreate your system
[22:53] <jspiro> Stevko: do you need help from us?  just ask your question if so :)
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> kane77: http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=813387
[22:54] <idefix_> Flannel? I get the same error again as when I wanted to install JAVA I think this one repository is very critical
[22:54] <snot> Stevko: if it's mounted it should show in df, right?
[22:54] <snot> does it show when mount is executed?
[22:54] <Flannel> idefix_: Third party repositories aren't necessary.
[22:54] <carrera> jspiro, what bug should I (or losher) file?
[22:54] <idefix_> and that one server was third party?
[22:54] <snot> I'm mean it should show if mounted when mount is run
[22:55] <songexe> losher: i have my /home on the same partition.  i'll probably just end up formatting.
[22:55] <jspiro> carrera: "When I press Ctrl+Z, rtorrent does not suspend itself.  Please modify rtorrent so that Ctrl+Z will make rtorrent suspend.
[22:55] <jspiro> "
[22:55] <losher> snot: yes, please run "df" and "mount" and paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[22:55] <carrera> thanks jspiro
[22:56] <losher> songexe: if you reformat you'll lose the contents of /home. Are you sure you want to do that?
[22:56] <losher> thanks jspiro
[22:56] <dr_willis> carrera,  i belive the rtorrent   program/devs basically  perfer to run the progrm in a screen session.
[22:56] <jspiro> dr_willis: they still should not trap Ctrl+Z
[22:56] <songexe> losher: well, it's a fairly new install anyway, and I can just do a backup to my external.  I'm just trying to avoid a format alltogether.
[22:56] <snot> losher: 2 sec, rebooting atm
[22:56] <Stevko> jspiro: Ok, so my question would be: How to find where to file "bug" for certain package? Package dvb-utils has file (/usr/share/doc/dvb-utils/examples/scan/dvb-t/cz-Praha) that is not up to date - it contains frequencies of digital tv here and one is not yet there, so it would be nice to add it there (for everyone) - where should I write about that - I did not really find appropriate place yet.
[22:56] <dr_willis> jspiro,  whatever.. im repeasting what the docs say..   he client uses ncurses and is ideal for use with screen or dtach. It supports saving of sessions and allows the user to add and remove torrents.
[22:57] <carrera> dr_willis, do i just run screen then rtorrent from within?
[22:57] <jspiro> Stevko: please do not ask me: ask everyone here :)
[22:57] <idefix_> Flannel, for the past year I've tried to upgrade to Edgy so often, I 'd really like this attempt to be succesful
[22:57] <natalisushka_> ActionParsnip, thanks, I guess i'd look into this guide if I would completely fail. But now, it seems to be going well except for connecting the other computer to the server. So I'd like to find this solution rather than configuring something else! Can you help with the issue? I noticed that when i entered ip, subent and gateway on the other computer that by clicking on the network maneger icon I can't see but "Manual Configuration" option, and other
[22:57] <natalisushka_> options on the list like Create new wireless network, or even the detected wireless connection and vpn and dial-up all disappear!
[22:57] <Flannel> idefix_: You're *not* upgrading to edgy, you're upgrading to Hardy.  Edgy isn't supported, and you *cant* upgrade to it.
[22:57] <dr_willis> carrera,  thats how ive seen it done befor.  - thats why ive mentiond screen to you about 4 times now. :)
[22:57] <idefix_> sorry that's what I meant
[22:57] <Flannel> idefix_: We've given you instructions on upgrading to Hardy, have you followed them?
[22:58] <idefix_> Flannel, hey btw, the same error occured when the installation was at sun0-java5-doc
[22:58] <losher> carrera: uh, does screen or dtach use ctrl-z? Maybe that's why?
[22:58] <idefix_> Software Updates doesn't upgrade your ubuntu version it merely upgrades all the software you have on your PC?
[22:58] <klaue> Can someone tell me what the difference between a GTK theme and a metacity theme is - from a users point ov view?
[22:58] <jspiro> screen and dtach do not trap Ctrl+Z.
[22:58] <Flannel> idefix_: It does both.
[22:58] <idefix_> so I just do 'no' + RETURN?
[22:58] <losher> jspiro: then I give up :-)
[22:59] <jspiro> carrera: if you just make a statement on IRC, it may not help.  You should file a proper bug report.
[22:59] <idefix_> Flannel but you promised installing JAVA would be easy once at Hardy
[22:59] <jspiro> carrera: so what you said in #rtorrent isn't enough :)
[22:59] <losher> carrera: yes, screen, then rtorrent within screen...
[22:59] <Flannel> idefix_: Are you on Hardy yet?
[23:00] <dr_willis> carrera,  check the rtorrent forums - wouldbe the best place to  look it up - see what otehrs say
[23:00] <ThePandemic82> this might be a stupid question but:  Is Opensuse better than ubuntu?  I've read some info and a lot of people say Opensuse is way better.  is that true?
[23:01] <ikonia> ThePandemic82: personal opinion, try it
[23:01] <jspiro> ThePandemic82: this is the wrong channel to ask that.  /join ##linux
[23:01] <ThePandemic82> oh ok
[23:01] <ThePandemic82> just thought I'd ask
[23:01] <idefix_> I was doing the upgrade just now, at about 2/3 my computer complains about some file should be owned by root.root
[23:01] <ikonia> ThePandemic82: try it, see what you like
[23:01] <jspiro> Stevko: please do not ask me: ask everyone here :).  To repeat your question, press <Up Arrow> to re-show the question, then erase my name from the beginning of the question, then press Enter to repeat.
[23:01] <ThePandemic82> ok cool
[23:01] <ThePandemic82> thanks
[23:02] <losher> ThePandemic82: fighting words...
[23:02] <Shinkai> I have problem or two with my hardware, it gets in critical condition in some spots, so I can't do the normal install at all. What is the most easy way to get so tiny ubuntu install as possible, hopefully without even desktop managers?
[23:02] <Stevko> jspiro: I know, I know. But I am still trying to find answer myself.
[23:02] <Flannel> idefix_: Then all of your issues may be due to the fact that your permissions are messed up.
[23:02] <ThePandemic82> ??
[23:02] <snot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/56817/
[23:02] <dulakian> ThePandemic82: the only way you can figure that out is to try them both, because one man's garbage is often another man's treasure
[23:02] <jspiro> Stevko: try this: type !bug -- then the bot will give you its canned answer
[23:02] <snot> there is my mount stuff
[23:02] <dulakian> ThePandemic82: both free, both easy to install, get to work
[23:02] <Stevko> !bug
[23:03] <snot> administrator@ubuntu:~$ tail -n 2 /etc/fstab
[23:03] <snot> /dev/sdd3 /mnt/old ext3 relatime 0 2
[23:03] <natalisushka_> People, in connecting to wireless connections and entering Passphrase, how do I decide it must be Wep 128-bit Passphrase, or Wep 64/128-bit Hex (or ASCII) And how do I determine what Authentication to use, Open system or Shared Key? note that the server that I am trying to connect to is not a route, but a laptop with a wireless connection set up that appears in my detected wireless connections
[23:03] <snot> that gives errors at boot
[23:03] <jspiro> ThePandemic82: most people here prefer ubuntu.  most people in #opensuse prefer opensuse
[23:03] <ThePandemic82> ok
[23:03] <ThePandemic82> cool
[23:03] <idefix_> Flannel hmm, i wanted to copy the one file it said something about by ctrl-C and I think I aborted that one particular question
[23:03] <idefix_> it now continued the install
[23:04] <losher> snot: and now, ls -l /mnt/old ?
[23:04] <jspiro> Shinkai: what is "critical condition"?
[23:04] <Shinkai> cannot even boot to live disc due to my hardware for some reason
[23:04] <snot> administrator@ubuntu:~$ ls -l /mnt/old
[23:04] <snot> total 0
[23:04] <snot> administrator@ubuntu:~$
[23:04] <snot> losher: :(
[23:04] <jspiro> Shinkai: tell us everything you know about your hardware.
[23:04] <losher> snot: sorry, ls -ld /mnt/old  (add the d)
[23:05] <bunnyto> i love UBUNTU!!
[23:05] <snot> administrator@ubuntu:~$ ls -ld /mnt/old/
[23:05] <snot> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-10-12 22:37 /mnt/old/
[23:05] <idefix_> Flannel? how many of these small things may go wrong before you can forget a smooth install?
[23:05] <jspiro> bunnyto: thank you, but you should say that in #ubuntu-devel instead.  We are not developers.
[23:05] <sonofabench> hello
[23:05] <Flannel> idefix_: These things going wrong indicate to me that your current install isn't healthy.
[23:05] <natalisushka_> People, in connecting to wireless connections and entering Passphrase, how do I decide it must be Wep 128-bit Passphrase, or Wep 64/128-bit Hex (or ASCII) And how do I determine what Authentication to use, Open system or Shared Key? note that the server that I am trying to connect to is not a route, but a laptop with a wireless connection set up that appears in my detected wireless connections
[23:06] <sonofabench> How do I get rid of Ubuntu completely so that Grub doesn't come up?
[23:06] <idefix_> who ever thought about using the same command for copying and aborting files/processing
[23:06] <losher> snot: so far, so good. Now, fdisk -l /dev/sdd
[23:06] <jspiro> sonofabench: one way is to FIXMBR and FIXBOOT.  we can tell you how.  but why do you want to do that?
[23:06] <idefix_> Flannel, but we can fix that somehow, can't we?
[23:06] <snot> administrator@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l /dev/sdd
[23:06] <snot> Cannot open /dev/sdd
[23:06] <sonofabench> jspiro: Don't get me wrong, I love Ubuntu. But I am selling the laptop!
[23:07] <Shinkai> jspiro: intel c2d e8400 @ 3ghz, ip35p, nvidia 8800gt oc, 2gt ram @ 533mhz, whining about irq stuff on all the way I have tried
[23:07] <jspiro> sonofabench:  :)  what OSes are currently installed?
[23:07] <losher> snot: that's bad. Try: dmesg | egrep sdd
[23:07] <sonofabench> Vista :)
[23:07] <jspiro> sonofabench: and ubuntu?
[23:07] <sonofabench> and Dell's proprietary media OS thing
[23:07] <sonofabench> yep
[23:07] <idefix_> when installing the sun-java it said that some zip file had to be downloaded manually
[23:08] <idefix_> Flannel ^
[23:08] <snot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/56819/
[23:08] <jspiro> sonofabench: hmm.  I see a 2nd option:  set Grub so that Windows is the first and default choice on the list.  then sell the laptop with both Windows and Linux on it.  but as for the 1st option:  I don't use Vista (only XP) so I'm not sure.
[23:08] <idefix_> now I FINALLY understand what people mean with the ^ symbol in chats so often
[23:08] <snot> losher: at you
[23:08] <danny_> how do i change my cursor?
[23:08] <Flannel> idefix_: You're not on Hardy yet.  Get to hardy, then install java
[23:08] <scurl> i've got a simple question about gedit, how do i get it to add to text rather than replace it when i place the cursor in the middle of a word?
[23:08] <jspiro> sonofabench:  try asking here again.  tell people you are on Vista and that you're selling your laptop.
[23:09] <idefix_> Flannel but my PC tried to do both simultaneously I'm quite sure
[23:09] <BCM34> scurl: hit insert
[23:09] <idefix_> like you said
[23:09] <jspiro> sonofabench:  if nobody here helps you, google at the UbuntuForums website (did you do that already?)  If that doesn't help, ask in ##windows
[23:09] <scurl> bcm34: ah, that's the stuff, thanks!!
[23:09] <sonofabench> I'll do that. Thanks for your advice :)
[23:09] <snot> losher: could this be because md is messesing around... this disk was once part of a raid 1, but it's "mate" is missing and now I just want to copy some data from it
[23:10] <idefix_> Flannel warning: error occured during execution of /usr/bin/scrollkeeper-update dpkg: error processing iptables (--configure):  is that bad?
[23:10] <danny_> how do i change my cursor?
[23:10] <idefix_> Flannel subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Interrupt) that was my accident
[23:10] <jspiro> danny_: why? do you want a larger cursor for accessibility reasons?
[23:10] <danny_> i just want to change the style to one that i downloaded
[23:10] <BCM34> danny_: get gcursor
[23:11] <jspiro> sonofabench: but i guess just repeat your question.
[23:11] <losher> snot: I'm worried that it is. your system can see the disk and agrees that it's partitioned into 1, 2 and 3, but after that...
[23:11] <anabolix> i just installed ubuntu, and now i dont have any option on the top of all my menus to maximize minimize and close... any clue how to get them back anyone?
[23:11] <jspiro> anabolix: that's really odd.  When did the option disappear?
[23:11] <Flannel> idefix_: Honestly, all of these errors don't sound good.  You should really consider installing hardy fresh.
[23:11] <jspiro> Flannel++
[23:12] <idefix_> well it's 90% done now
[23:12] <danny_> hey thanks BCM34
[23:12] <jspiro> idefix_: you mean 10% :)
[23:12] <natalisushka_> People, in connecting to wireless connections and entering Passphrase, how do I decide it must be Wep 128-bit Passphrase, or Wep 64/128-bit Hex (or ASCII) And how do I determine what Authentication to use, Open system or Shared Key? note that the server that I am trying to connect to is not a route, but a laptop with a wireless connection set up that appears in my detected wireless connections
[23:12] <kc8pxy> if i'm looking to deploy a ubuntu ltsp, and the ltsp server is an amd64 processor,  and the clients are x86, do i need to install i386 on the server? or will be fine to have a arch difference?
[23:12] <idefix_> jspiro you mean the last 10% last 90% time?
[23:12] <BCM34> danny: it is already installed. System → Preferences → Cursor Selection
[23:12] <jspiro> natalisushka_: what do you mean?
[23:12] <losher> snot: Sorry, at this point, I'm out of my depth. You need raid help...
[23:12] <anabolix> jspiro, right after i installed a theme beryl/emerald and compiz... some where around that time
[23:12] <joshritger> I am trying to edit grub to add windows from another hard drive to the boot list, how do I figure out what hard drive and partition to add?
[23:12] <mark__> I just upgrade from Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 beta and now I can't get my laptops built in mic to work. Going through the volume control everything for recording is set to mute and even though I unmute it each time i close/open it its muted again. Can anyone help me with this?
[23:12] <natalisushka_> jspiro, I mean exactly what I said. What exactly didn't you understand?
[23:12] <snot> losher: thanks for your time :)
[23:13] <idefix_> it is 10% to done
[23:13] <losher> snot: Sorry, I don't even know where to point you next...
[23:13] <BCM34> !8.10 | mark__
[23:13] <Shinkai> so.. is there a easy way to make as tiny install as possible to ubuntu?
[23:13] <alessandro_> c
[23:13] <snot> losher: no problem, booting off a rescue disk now to see if the problem persists
[23:14] <BCM34> Shinkai: install only base system and do the rest of the software installing manually
[23:14] <losher> snot: ok, best of luck...
[23:14] <Shinkai> BCM34, with what and how, all I saw was to install normally and text installer (not so experienced so duh, stupid questions)
[23:15] <BCM34> Shinkai: hold on one sec, I know how to on debian, not quite surs how to on ubuntu
[23:16] <natalisushka_> People, in connecting to wireless connections and entering Passphrase, how do I decide it must be Wep 128-bit Passphrase, or Wep 64/128-bit Hex (or ASCII) And how do I determine what Authentication to use, Open system or Shared Key? note that the server that I am trying to connect to is not a route, but a laptop with a wireless connection set up that appears in my detected wireless connections
[23:16] <snot> losher: the data is there... nice! :)
[23:16] <slaterock> anyone got sdlmame installed?
[23:17] <snot> losher: ill mess around with it tomorrow, I'm off to bed, once again, thanks for your help
[23:17] <slaterock> i installed it, and when I load up a rom, i'm booted out of current session and i have to relog into ubuntu
[23:17] <dr_willis> slaterock,  ive used mame over the years..  You may want to ask a more answerable question. :)
[23:17] <PEAKTOP> есть gentoo`shniki? киньте пожалуйста .bashrc http://rafb.net/paste/ :)
[23:17] <jspiro> natalisushka_: I dunno, your question is just hard to understand.  I can't explain why.  repeat it again; maybe someone else can explain why
[23:17] <idefix> Flannel, this is depressing: No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description:    Ubuntu 6.06.2 LTS Release:        6.06 Codename:       dapper
[23:17] <jspiro> I am busy :(
[23:17] <jspiro> PEAKTOP: type !jp or !zh
[23:17] <slaterock>  i installed it, and when I load up a rom, i'm booted out of current session and i have to relog into ubuntu
[23:18] <BCM34> Shinkai: not sure how to do it on ubuntu, try asking here.
[23:18] <admin-pc> Prorat
[23:18] <lakitu> !ru | PEAKTOP
[23:18] <losher> snot: so glad...
[23:18] <Flannel> idefix: You've updated to the most recent dapper.  You haven't made the jump to Hardy.
[23:19] <idefix> it took my PC long enough
[23:19] <admin-pc> #rooms
[23:19] <chalcedny> Flannel: how can i ftp with command line ?
[23:19] <Flannel> chalcedny: "ftp"
[23:19] <chalcedny> Flannel: what does the next command look like?
[23:20] <Flannel> chalcedny: what?  then you're in ftp, do the ftp stuff.
[23:20] <chalcedny> er how ?
[23:20] <admin-pc> hi
[23:20] <chalcedny> lftp :~> ftp -p some ip
[23:20] <chalcedny> Unknown command `ftp'.
[23:20] <ThePandemic82> question:  I can play .WMV files in vlc but I get no sound.  What do I have to do in order to get sound?
[23:20] <Flannel> chalcedny: open [server], cd, put, get, bin, ascii, mput, mget, etc.
[23:20] <jspiro> slaterock: I don't, but maybe someone does.  just ask your question :)
[23:20] <admin-pc> kann da jemand deutsch ?
[23:20] <jspiro> !de
[23:20] <Flannel> !de | admin-pc
[23:20] <droopsta915> ive been using ubuntu for 5 months, i was wondering if setting up a firewall is recommended?
[23:20] <jspiro> chalcedny: what file are are you trying to download?
[23:21] <dr_willis> droopsta915,  i never do. :)
[23:21] <jspiro> droopsta915: if you have a home router, then no need.
[23:21] <jspiro> it acts as an inbound firewall.
[23:21] <idefix> Flannel? why aren't those websites of the upgrade in my history in my browser?
[23:21] <chalcedny> jspiro: i want to send files to someone
[23:21] <admin-pc> hi alle
[23:21] <Flannel> chalcedny: You may also be interested in ncurses based ftp clients, such as ncftp
[23:21] <jspiro> hi
[23:21] <ThePandemic82> hey
[23:21] <droopsta915> i assumed linux was stable without it so i dont do it :) thanx
[23:22] <jspiro> chalcedny: if they are less than 10MB, you can use yousendit or some other website.
[23:22] <jspiro> chalcedny: how big?
[23:22] <admin-pc>  
[23:22] <tvakah> what's the correct way to set the CAP_NET_ADMIN capability in ubuntu?
[23:22] <Flannel> idefix: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades#Upgrade%20from%206.06%20LTS%20to%208.04%20LTS
[23:22] <jspiro> tvakah: I dunno.  ask in #ubuntu-server.  why not just use "sudo"?
[23:22] <chalcedny> greets admin-pc
[23:23] <abo> hello, i've just moved my harddrive from one pc to another, I don't think all my hardware is configured correctly
[23:23] <chalcedny> jspiro: too big to attach as an email and other than that i'm not sure
[23:23] <cappiz> i have amavis running in /var/run/amavis/tmp but on every reboot, all files/folders inside /var/run/amavis gets deleted
[23:23] <cappiz> any ideas how i can stop it?
[23:23] <jspiro> chalcedny: check for us :)
[23:23] <Berkay18> hey
[23:23] <jessen> i'm having some trouble getting started with exaile: it scans my whole music collection but then doesn't show any of the artists in the collection menu. I have gstreamer good, bad and ugly installed
[23:23] <jspiro> ThePandemic82: can all your other programs play sound fine?
[23:23] <soundray> abo: probably best to install from scratch
[23:23] <Berkay18> hey amigo
[23:23] <tvakah> jspiro, because I don't want to run openvpn as root, and it's a desktop not server
[23:23] <jspiro> hola
[23:23] <jspiro> tvakah: ask there anyway.
[23:24] <Berkay18> götünüze koyiyim :D
[23:24] <Berkay18> :d
[23:24] <chalcedny> jspiro: one is 6260 kb
[23:24] <jspiro> tvakah: if they don't answer, then ask again here :)
[23:24] <joshritger> I want to edit grub to add my windows install that is on a different hard drive, how do I figure out what drive and partition to add to grub
[23:24] <jspiro> chalcedny: use a web-base file-sending service.
[23:24] <dulakian> tvakah: you have to run openvpn as root, but in the config you can tell it to drop privs to nobody after it does the root stuff
[23:24] <jspiro> jessen: the easiest fix: use a different music player :)  how about banshee or rhythmbox or the KDE player "amarok"?
[23:24] <abo> soundray, the reason i istalled it on another pc, is that my cdrom of laptop is broken :(
[23:24] <natalisushka_> jspiro, I will say it in other words. I have a Dell laptop with wireless connection created (as a server). I followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/ShareEthernetConnectionThroughWireless. So, the server is correctly configured, and on the other laptop (Toshiba) I can see the ESSID of the Dell laptop. By clicking on it, I am prompted to enter passphrase and authentication. So how do I determine the specifics? What kind of WEP k
[23:24] <natalisushka_> ey to enter, and what to choose of authentication?
[23:24] <tvakah> jspiro, righto, but from what I'm seeing this is very much impacting desktop end users btw, in the form of "network-manager-openvpn just didn't work for me" and giving up
[23:24] <soundray> joshritger: see if the output from 'sudo fdisk -l' tells you enough
[23:25] <chalcedny> jspiro: why ? and do you have a recommendation?
[23:25] <Berkay18> y
[23:25] <Berkay18> try
[23:25] <Berkay18> ruy
[23:25] <Berkay18> rtu
[23:25] <Berkay18> yu
[23:25] <FloodBot3> Berkay18: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:25] <Berkay18> tu
[23:25] <soundray> abo:  there are ways of installing without a CD
[23:25] <joshritger> soundray: I have tried that, I am just not sure what I have to add
[23:25] <soundray> !install > abo
[23:25] <BCM34> Berkay18: please stop
[23:25] <joshritger> I know it is my third hard drive first partition
[23:25] <tvakah> dulakian, why, I granted perms on /dev/net/tun, if the account can get CAP_NET_ADMIN to be able to use the TUNSETIFF ioctl, a restriction introduced in 2.6.18, everything will work fine unpriv'd
[23:25] <jspiro> chalcedny: it's easier.  try the one my friend uses, which is IIRC called YouSendIt
[23:25] <soundray> joshritger: have you worked out the partition name?
[23:26] <jspiro> chalcedny: for one thing, it is unaffected by firewalls.
[23:26] <dulakian> tvakah: because access to tun is not the only thing it needs root for, I suggest you take it up with the openvpn devs and not the tech support for your distro
[23:26] <chalcedny> jspiro: good point!
[23:26] <chalcedny> ty
[23:26] <tvakah> dulakian, and if root is the only option, how do I get network-manager to sudo openvpn for me
[23:26] <bebe> chalcedny,  :]
[23:26] <joshritger> soundray: do you mean /dev/sdc:
[23:26] <bebe> luv
[23:26] <jspiro> natalisushka_: ah, better.  but I don't know the answer.  try asking the whole channel again
[23:26] <Guest32832> Is there any Linux messaging software that is like Microsoft Exchange, but free?
[23:26] <jessen> jspiro, that's a shame -- it looks like a pretty nice player
[23:26] <chalcedny> (((((((((((( BeBeLuShuL ))))))))))))))))
[23:26] <Shinkai> So, I need to get a so tiny install as possible to ubuntu, preferably without *anything* extra, including from desktop managers to all kind of stuff, anyone here experienced with that?
[23:26] <jspiro> Guest32832: you want to run a mail server?  how many clients?
[23:26] <dulakian> tvakah: the quick way is to suid a wrapper script
[23:26] <soundray> joshritger: /dev/sdc is a drive name, so the partition name will be /dev/sdc1
[23:26] <chalcedny> lol bebe *hugs*
[23:27] <ikonia> chalcedny: please try not to post silly things in #ubuntu
[23:27] <Daft_Punk> what program is the closest thing to use to replace itunes?
[23:27] <Guest32832> 500
[23:27] <BeBeLuShuL> :D
[23:27] <soundray> joshritger: its name for grub will be (hd2,0)
[23:27] <Flannel> Shinkai: get the alternate CD, install a console only version
[23:27] <BeBeLuShuL> :]
[23:27] <soundray> joshritger: (grub starts counting at zero)
[23:27] <Shinkai> Flannel, thank you, lets look..!
[23:27] <chalcedny> ikonia: ty i was here before you
[23:27] <tvakah> dulakian, I'm interested in doing it correctly / possibly submitting a patch so that this "just works" for more people such as my coworkers
[23:27] <ikonia> chalcedny: how does that matter ?
[23:27] <joshritger> soundray: oh, that is my problem, i was doing hd3,0
[23:27] <idefix> Flannel, how do you apply all updates?
[23:27] <jspiro> Shinkai: sorry, I forgot about you.  I apologize.  :(  you should fix things so you can boot off CD-ROMs, then install regular Ubuntu 8.04.
[23:27] <Flannel> Shinkai: I believe you hit f4 or f5 on the boot menu to be able to select that opion
[23:27] <soundray> joshritger: :) problem solved (probably)
[23:28] <joshritger> soundray: thanks (crosses fingers and goes to reboot)
[23:28] <natalisushka_> Hi everyone ..  I have a Dell laptop with wireless connection created (as a server). I followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/ShareEthernetConnectionThroughWireless. So, the server is correctly configured, and on the other laptop (Toshiba) I can see the ESSID of the Dell laptop. By clicking on it, I am prompted to enter passphrase and authentication. So how do I determine the specifics? What kind of WEP key to enter, and what
[23:28] <natalisushka_> to choose of authentication?
[23:28] <jspiro> Shinkai: why do you not want full Ubuntu with Gnome, Firefox, and everything?
[23:28] <chalcedny> ikonia: i've refrained from large scale hugging of many people in color
[23:28] <hell_fire_667> limewire won't play downloaded songs...on restart? running 8.04
[23:28] <jspiro> chalcedny: you're welcome.
[23:28] <dulakian> tvakah: bringing up a network interface is typically a "root" operation, I am not aware of a distro that doesn't require you to be root for it, they just make the config easy to manage, but the processes all run as root
[23:28] <chalcedny> :)
[23:28] <ikonia> chalcedny: bottom line, please don't post things like that in #ubuntu
[23:29] <Shinkai> jspiro, due to my hardware it can't boot even to livedisc with several versions tested, I got some working but constant errors or VERY long boot times all the time
[23:29] <jspiro> Shinkai: is your CD-ROM broken?
[23:29] <jspiro> Shinkai: *is your CD-ROM drive broken?
[23:29] <Shinkai> nope, it works flawlessly
[23:29] <BeBeLuShuL> lol
[23:29] <BeBeLuShuL> luv
[23:30] <losher> natalisushka: if I understand your setup correctly, both sides need to *agree* on the authentication method and the passphrase.
[23:30] <jspiro> Shinkai: then you should not try to install a barebones version.  Instead, you should get help with making Linux boot.
[23:30] <chalcedny> jspiro: my friend can't GET big emails  :(
[23:30] <PacoRiviere> Hello all
[23:30] <jspiro> chalcedny: yousendit deals with that
[23:30] <jspiro> PacoRiviere: hi
[23:30] <PacoRiviere> Hi jspiro
[23:30] <losher> natalisushka: so my first question is, what authen methods can you configure on the Dell
[23:30] <jspiro> chalcedny: they send your friend a web download link
[23:30] <tvakah> dulakian, righto, I'm digging through network-manager-openvpn's files now to try to find the bit that runs openvpn... what's the right ay to invoke kde/gnome sudo while being desktop agnostic?
[23:30] <chalcedny> jspiro: ill look a little more at it
[23:31] <jspiro> chalcedny: also try MegaUpload.com -- I have never used them but they are more popular nowadays.
[23:31] <dulakian> tvakah: gksudo is a nice gui version of sudo
[23:31] <tvakah> dulakian, rereade the part there about desktop agnostic
[23:31] <PacoRiviere> is there any grub/syslinux guru here for a question?
[23:31] <tvakah> dulakian, or is there no standard alternative setup?
[23:31] <jspiro> PacoRiviere: there are a few here.  never ask to ask.  always just ask away
[23:31] <dulakian> tvakah: gksudo works on all the desktops afaik
[23:31] <soundray> PacoRiviere: one person's guru is another one's newb. Just ask.
[23:31] <jspiro> Shinkai: which Linux distros have you tried on your computer?  which fail to boot off the livecd?
[23:32] <Odd-rationale> dulakian: only on systems with gksudo installed...
[23:32] <lordofnitemares> why do i get no sound from web pages
[23:32] <Flannel> dulakian, tvakah: gksu (or gksudo) work on Ubuntu and Xubuntu, Kubuntu uses kdesu
[23:32] <rallos> hello
[23:32] <dulakian> gksu works on my kde just fine
[23:32] <dulakian> I have gnome too though so ymmv
[23:32] <Shinkai> jspiro ubuntu from 6 to 8 series, gentoo and slackware, windows is old installment so no idea if it boots nowadays
[23:32] <Odd-rationale> dulakian: you may have installed some thing that had it as a dep...
[23:32] <tvakah> Flannel, exactly so in a neutral package, is there any way to say "invoke kdesu if they're running kde, or gksu if gnome is running" I'm thinknig of an /etc/alternative here
[23:32] <rallos> can you tell me how can i disable compiz fusion?
[23:32] <jspiro> !gq > lordofnitemares  [ we need more info :) ].  lordofnitemares, for one thing, does sound work in Windows?  does it work in other Ubuntu apps?  which webpages fail to provide sound?  only YouTube?
[23:32] <jin> is it possible to set a fixed length for avant windows navigator?
[23:33] <jspiro> what is avant windows navigator?
[23:33] <Odd-rationale> !awn | jspiro
[23:33] <soundray> rallos: System-Preferences-Appearance-Visual Effects -- set it to none
[23:33] <mistergibson> anyone do anything w/ ipaq (not synce) in the networking dept.?
[23:33] <mistergibson> I need to bridge and port forward
[23:33] <ikonia> mistergibson: what are you trying to sync it with
[23:33] <PacoRiviere> I'm trying to install sysrescuecd on a no-cd netbook partition to be able to fsck away and dont manage to set the apropiate kernek and ini options for grub. Any help?
[23:33] <jspiro> jin: for obscure software like awn, you should check if it has its own irc channel.  you will probably get a faster response in a specialized channel than here.
[23:33] <mistergibson> not sync, just want tcpip on it
[23:34] <ikonia> mistergibson: how is that an ubuntu issue ?
[23:34] <mistergibson> ikonia: I've got usb0 (host side) included in my bridge0
[23:34] <mistergibson> ikonia: general knowledge
[23:34] <jspiro> PacoRiviere: I didn't understand your question.  Please repeat, but with twice as much detail as before.
[23:34] <ikonia> mistergibson: doesn't seem like an ubuntu issue
[23:34]  * Black_Master needs help
[23:34] <julian> how do you transfer file to palm device
[23:34] <mistergibson> ikonia: I caught that from your question, its a general networking issue
[23:34] <julian> i already sync
[23:34] <lordofnitemares> the sound works fine in other programs just on firefox i get no sound
[23:35] <jspiro> !ask > Black_Master   [ we can always help :) ]
[23:35] <ikonia> mistergibson: ahh, so it's nothing to with ubuntu then, you may want to try ##networking
[23:35] <soundray> !pastebin > joshritger
[23:35] <jspiro> jin: did you try to look for a channel for avant?
[23:35] <jspiro> jin: if so, what did you try?
[23:35] <losher> PacoRiviere: so are your doing the "how to install SystemRescueCd on USB stick or SATA disks" method?
[23:35] <Black_Master> help
[23:36] <jin> jspiro, I have not tried anything yet. I am reading the wiki
[23:36] <Black_Master> i'm haves a problems with my sound cae
[23:36] <Black_Master> *card
[23:36] <droopsta915> im trying to see video but the file extension is ram? anyone can help me please. I can here the sound but no image.
[23:36] <alanbshepard77> I installed ubuntu on my sony vaio laptop and for no apparent reason the screen just dims. I've checked all the idle timers, power settings and everything else I could but to no avail. I've googled my problem and searched the forums but all the solutions involved the laptops function key, great except my vaios function key is software driven not hardware so it does nothing.
[23:36] <natalisushka_> Hi everyone ..  I have a Dell laptop with wireless connection created (as a server). I followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/ShareEthernetConnectionThroughWireless. So, the server is correctly configured, and on the other laptop (Toshiba) I can see the ESSID of the Dell laptop. By clicking on it, I am prompted to enter passphrase and authentication. So how do I determine the specifics? What kind of WEP key to enter, and what
[23:36] <natalisushka_> to choose of authentication?
[23:36] <douglas> Hi all!
[23:36] <jspiro> hi
[23:36] <jspiro> lordofnitemares, please answer all the questions I asked :)
[23:36] <jspiro> preferably all on one line.
[23:36] <losher> natalisushka: if I understand your setup correctly, both sides need to *agree* on the authentication method and the passphrase.
[23:36] <losher> natalisushka: so my first question is, what authen methods can you configure on the Dell
[23:37] <jspiro> jin: you should ask in #awn
[23:37] <jin> thanks
[23:37] <jspiro> droopsta915: is it a RealAudio Media file?
[23:37] <julian> can someone help me transfer music to palm centro?
[23:37] <ConstantineXVI> what's the easiest way to remove all your kernels and headers that aren't current?
[23:37] <PacoRiviere> Grub question: On my last trip i needed to fsck my no-cd netbook and had no usb key on hand. In order to be prepared next time I'm trying to install sysresuecd or other repair distro on a little partition but do not find the correct grub kernek and initrd options to boot sysrescuecd.
[23:38] <anabolix> someone plz tell me how to get my ability to maximize,minimize, close windows from the top right of the window frame... it disappeared and dont know how to get it back
[23:38] <jspiro> ConstantineXVI: maybe sudo apt-get autoremove will do it, but I don't recommend you bother.
[23:38] <droopsta915> jspiro: yes its real audio
[23:38] <Flannel> ConstantineXVI: synaptic package manager, and remove the packages
[23:38] <losher> PacoRiviere: so are you doing the "how to install SystemRescueCd on USB stick or SATA disks" method?
[23:38] <douglas> Someone here uses Kdevelop? How can I run a compiled program without kdevelop, I mean by just clicking on it?
[23:38] <jspiro> droopsta915: isn't ram a sound-only format?  I don't remember the answer.
[23:38] <jspiro> douglas: what is the name and website of the program?
[23:39] <`Johnny`> (application/x-java-applet;version=1.6) How can I have the applet installed?
[23:39] <joshritger> can someone look at my grub menu.list and help me fix it so windows will boot, it finds the drive, but doesn't boot
[23:39] <joshritger> http://paste.ubuntu.com/56825/
[23:39] <droopsta915> lol it might be. its ok, ill hear it, thanx for the help.
[23:39] <DocUSN-USMC> i have a usb gps. is thier a linux program i can run it with to find my way around?
[23:39] <douglas> jspiro, It's a small program, coz I'm learning C
[23:39] <PacoRiviere> losher: http://www.sysresccd.org/Sysresccd-manual-en_Easy_install_SystemRescueCd_on_harddisk dis not work
[23:39] <jspiro> joshritger: paste us the relevant line that says "chainloader" in it directly here
[23:39] <jspiro> douglas: oh.  what is the name?  "helloworld" or such?
[23:40] <jspiro> DocUSN-USMC: I have no idea.  Google for: linux gps
[23:40] <jspiro> DocUSN-USMC: is gpsdrive a good one?  I don't know if it's any good
[23:40] <douglas> Yeah, hello world :) I'm trying to run it, but I have many doubts
[23:40] <jspiro> douglas: what is the name of the compiled binary?
[23:40] <soundray> jspiro: he's got chainloader +1
[23:40] <douglas> build and compile are different things?
[23:40] <jspiro> douglas: of the built file
[23:40] <anabolix> someone plz tell me how to get my ability to maximize,minimize, close windows from the top right of the window frame... it disappeared and dont know how to get it back
[23:40] <jspiro> soundray: oh.
[23:40] <jspiro> anabolix: what did you do to make it disappear?
[23:40] <threeseas> I have a constant hd drive light going and have tried checking the swap uuid and removal of myth TV, but its still .... getting annoying
[23:41] <Odd-rationale> anabolix: are you using compiz?
[23:41] <threeseas> help
[23:41] <jspiro> threeseas: ok
[23:41] <douglas> jscinoz, It's douglas, but I don't know the extension
[23:41] <dominik> hi
[23:41] <jspiro> hi
[23:41] <anabolix> Odd-rationale, yes, i think after i installed it, thats when it disappeared
[23:41] <jspiro> douglas: ok.  Type this:  ./douglas
[23:41] <joshritger> what should chainloader say?
[23:41] <losher> PacoRiviere: ok, please post your grub file to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:41] <jspiro> douglas: does it work?
[23:41] <Plz> anabolix: Please don write plz. XChat highlight it...
[23:41] <anabolix> Odd-rationale, any way to fix it
[23:41] <Odd-rationale> anabolix: make sure you install emerald as well...
[23:41] <the|Navigator> My Computer was working with 8.04 and suddenly, I guess after an update, now it keeps puttin me into low graphics mode.  Whatever I click on the dialog takes me to a black screen and no activity on the HD light.  Ideas?
[23:41] <dominik> is there someone who can help me with a quick lvm question?
[23:41] <jspiro> joshritger: I don't know :( sorry.
[23:41] <Sonja> FF often displays Flash as grey boxes. I have to close and reopen FF to fix the glitch. It's annoying.
[23:41] <Odd-rationale> anabolix: emerald is the window decorator for compiz.
[23:41] <douglas> In a terminal? Sorry I'm new to linux :/
[23:42] <soundray> joshritger: I think it's correct. How far do you get in the boot process, and how does it fail?
[23:42] <jspiro> Plz: if you don't want spurious highlighting, you should change your nickname :)
[23:42] <dominik> anyone familiar with LVM here?
[23:42] <jspiro> Plz: "plz" is a common word.
[23:42] <PacoRiviere> losher: ok, i'm booting the aspiro one
[23:42] <jspiro> !ask > dominik  [ dominik: yes.  just ask :) ]
[23:42] <the|Navigator> jspiro: I should change my name to 'it' or 'the' or maybe even 'hardy' =p
[23:42] <Odd-rationale> anabolix: also, install compizconfig-settings-manager (ccsm). and enable the windowdecoration plugin. and in the windowdecoration settings put "emerald" in the command field...
[23:42] <dominik> :-)
[23:43] <jspiro> the|Navigator: nah, I recommend the IRC nick "yes"
[23:43] <`Johnny`> How can I install (application/x-java-applet;version=1.6)?
[23:43] <joshritger> it finds the drive, but it never starts to boot windows
[23:43] <douglas> jscinoz, Where do I type this? :)
[23:43] <threeseas> using ubuntu 8.04 and have drive light issues, constantly on, more or less... tried removal of myth TV and checked that the uuid was set right for swap..... any suggestions?
[23:43] <joshritger> it hung for a min or two and then I hard restarted
[23:43] <jspiro> douglas: I am not jscinoz :)
[23:43] <the|Navigator> jspiro: are people positive enough for that?  'no' might be more common
[23:43] <soundray> joshritger: yes, you've said that, and I'm asking for more detail
[23:43] <jspiro> douglas: first.  open a terminal.  then, change to your project's directory.  Do u know how?
[23:43] <douglas> jspiro, sorry :)
[23:43] <soundray> joshritger: where did it hang?
[23:44] <jspiro> douglas: ah, better :)
[23:44] <joshritger> It just said booting after I choose windows in grub, then it hung
[23:44] <dominik> i resized a phyical volume to a smaller size because i want to create another partition to install another os onto the same harddisk. the lvm tells me that the logical volume was resized to the size i wanted. but qtparted still shows the "old" size...
[23:44] <jspiro> who is Mr. Scinoz anyway?
[23:44] <dominik> how can I "update" my partition table?
[23:44] <douglas> jspiro, I try, just a sec
[23:44] <DocUSN-USMC> jspiro thats what im trying to figure out. i have ls-40 advanced usb gps but streetaltas 2009 doesnt work in wine
[23:45] <jspiro> DocUSN-USMC: do this first.  google for:  linux gps
[23:45] <jspiro> DocUSN-USMC: what are the first few hits you see?
[23:45] <joshritger> soundray: I will reboot to windows again and write down exactly what it says, brb
[23:45] <PacoRiviere> losher: here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/56827/
[23:45] <soundray> joshritger: hold on...
[23:45] <anabolix> Odd-rationale, thanks that worked
[23:45] <joshritger> ok
[23:46] <DocUSN-USMC> jspiro all crap lol
[23:46] <soundray> joshritger: I'm logging off in a minute, so let me just say what I think the problem is
[23:46] <Odd-rationale> anabolix: np
[23:46] <jspiro> DocUSN-USMC: try searching at freshmeat.net for gps
[23:46] <joshritger> ok
[23:46] <PacoRiviere> losher: sorry, no. it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/56828
[23:47] <soundray> joshritger: Windows is happiest if you install it on the first partition on the first drive in the system. If you do anything else, it may get its drive letters confused.
[23:47] <losher> PacoRiviere: ok, please post "ls -l  /ubnkern" and "ls -l /ubninit"
[23:48] <DocUSN-USMC> hmm
[23:48] <joshritger> soundray: I normally use the bios to pick the device to boot,will try to re order them
[23:48] <dominik> i resized a phyical volume to a smaller size because i want to create another partition to install another os onto the same harddisk. the lvm tells me that the logical volume was resized to the size i wanted. but qtparted still shows the "old" size...
[23:48] <grapefruit> I'm on the ubuntu livecd, where's the xorg configuration file?
[23:48] <dominik> how can I "update" my partition table?
[23:48] <jspiro> grapefruit: why do you ask?
[23:48] <grapefruit> I need it for another system so I have to copy it
[23:48] <soundray> joshritger: so if you have any partitions on the first and second hard disk that are FAT or NTFS, Windows will assume this to be drive C:, and this will be a contradiction with what it's actually booting from.
[23:48] <dominik> grapefruit: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:48] <douglas> jspiro, the path is /home/douglas/first3/ in a window on the left, but compiler says the file is /home/douglas/first3/debug/src
[23:48] <grapefruit> dominik: nope
[23:48] <grapefruit> it's not a valid one
[23:48] <douglas> jspiro, Where I have to go?
[23:48] <sudoconfused> cya douglas
[23:49] <joshritger> soundray: my second drive is ntfs for storage, will try to reorder them
[23:49] <joshritger> thanks
[23:49] <soundray> joshritger: this kind of thing tends to be hairy, but at some point you will find a setup that works... good luck.
[23:49] <grapefruit> jspiro: any idea?
[23:49] <PacoRiviere> losher: you may mean ls -l / i supose
[23:49] <jspiro> douglas: what are you looking for?
[23:49] <jspiro> douglas: oops wait
[23:49] <losher> PacoRiviere: "ls -l  /" will do for a start if you prefer...
[23:50] <dominik> i need to update my partition table after having resized my lvm physical volume...but how?
[23:50] <douglas> jspiro, Ok
[23:50] <DocUSN-USMC> jspiro http://www.fsckin.com/2008/04/06/review-four-linux-gps-packages/
[23:51] <PacoRiviere> losher: http://paste.ubuntu.com/56829/ (mounted from ubuntu as disk-4 (I cannot start sysrescuecd!)
[23:52] <atomic> anyone know what nautlius-cd-burner uses for copying discs?
[23:53] <DocUSN-USMC> i do need some help. ityped in this # apt-get install gpsd python-gps gpsdrive viking gpsd-clients libgps-dev libgtk2.0-dev glutg3-dev libcegui-mk2-dev libxmu-dev libsdl-dev libpcre3-dev libspeechd-dev libtiff-dev libdevil-dev build-essential subversion automake
[23:53] <DocUSN-USMC> and got errors
[23:53] <DocUSN-USMC> this is what i got Reading package lists... Done
[23:53] <DocUSN-USMC> Building dependency tree
[23:53] <DocUSN-USMC> Reading state information... Done
[23:53] <DocUSN-USMC> Note, selecting libsdl1.2-dev instead of libsdl-dev
[23:53] <DocUSN-USMC> Package libtiff-dev is a virtual package provided by:
[23:53] <FloodBot3> DocUSN-USMC: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:53] <DocUSN-USMC>   libtiff4-dev 3.8.2-7ubuntu3.1
[23:53] <jspiro> grapefruit: did dominik's answer help you?
[23:53] <losher> PacoRiviere: looks reasonable. Now "df /media/disk-4"
[23:53] <DocUSN-USMC> crap lol...
[23:53] <grapefruit> dude that's a generic xorg configuration
[23:54] <jspiro> grapefruit: what is your real problem?
[23:54] <grapefruit> the livecd configures xorg according to the specs of the system you're running it on
[23:54] <jspiro> does it?
[23:54] <jspiro> anyone?
[23:54] <natalisushka_> how do I scan for my wireless connections from the command line?
[23:54] <soundray> DocUSN-USMC: look at how many users this channel has, and imagine that everyone with a problem would paste a few lines of error messages
[23:54] <grapefruit> sheesh man, you're really akwards
[23:54] <soundray> !pastebin > DocUSN-USMC
[23:55] <jspiro> DocUSN-USMC: 5 line pastes are a gigantic burden on Freenode's dozens of servers.
[23:55] <jspiro> DocUSN-USMC: perhaps megabytes of packets per paste
[23:55] <DocUSN-USMC> jspiro it failed though i think...
[23:55] <PacoRiviere> losher: paste.ubuntu.com/56831/
[23:56] <askand> jspiro: wow, didnt know that, thought it was because of readability
[23:56] <v3ctor> natalisushka_: iwlist <interface> scanning
[23:56] <jspiro> askand: that too
[23:56] <jspiro> grapefruit: it's not on purpose.  I can't help 5 people at once.  I'm overloaded.
[23:56] <Guest56323> hey guys, i am having problems with my sound. i have a sound blaster live 5.1 card and i cant seem to get drivers for it. any suggestions?
[23:57] <jspiro> DocUSN-USMC: grapefruit: mind if I drop your problems and you re-ask to the whole channel?  I am working with too many people at once.
[23:57] <jspiro> sorry :(
[23:57] <natalisushka_> v3ctor, I got wifi0: Interface doesn't support scanning
[23:57] <DocUSN-USMC> jspiro sure
[23:57] <jspiro> dougsko: progress?
[23:57] <jspiro> DocUSN-USMC: thanks :)
[23:57] <jspiro> oops
[23:57] <jspiro> dougsko: please ignore
[23:57] <jspiro> douglas: progress?
[23:58] <FloodBot3> jspiro: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:58] <askand> :)
[23:58] <jspiro> FloodBot3: ok :)
[23:58] <con-man> <-- Inamenick has quit (Client Quit)
[23:58] <douglas> jspiro,  No, I was trying but nothing, ./douglas doesn't work
[23:58] <con-man>  platius has quit ("bye")
 dougsko: progress?
[23:58] <con-man>  DocUSN-USMC: thanks :)
[23:58] <con-man> <-- kumelk has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[23:58] <FloodBot3> con-man: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[23:59] <losher> PacoRiviere: well, only the obvious strikes me: you use UUID, the example doesn't. You don't use a subdir, the example does. Your initrd doesn't have a .igz extension, the example does....
[23:59] <douglas> I tryed to type at debug/src
[23:59] <threeseas> any suggestions on a drive light on way to much?
[23:59] <con-man> sorry :(
[23:59] <douglas> Isn't common on linux to click on a file to run it?
[23:59] <soundray> threeseas: it's probably indexing. Give it two hours.
[23:59] <dr_willis> douglas,  not really :) if its exeuctable it will run