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claydohGood eveining folks!00:04
claydohwill Hardy keep getting kde4 updates for a while after intrepid?00:06
apacheloggerclaydoh: unlikely00:11
apacheloggerthat would mean creating packages for 3 series00:12
Hobbseeapachelogger: ppa build time is cheap, though00:12
Hobbseeapachelogger: won't the packages (sources) be pretty similar?00:12
apacheloggernot the package creation00:12
apacheloggerHobbsee: for jaunty and intrepid00:12
apacheloggernot for hardy00:12
Hobbseeah, right00:12
claydohwill there be be updates at least through Intredid, before jaunty?00:16
claydohor is it likely to end much sooner?00:16
claydohinquiring forum users want to know :)00:17
claydohspeaking of forum users, I tried pointing some people here who want to have kde3x in intrepid00:18
claydoha ppa  repo would sound like a good project for them to try00:18
claydohas  opposed to crabbing or staying with hardy00:19
claydohI have one user who want the most current kernel, the latest xorg, , drivers et al but wants to run kde300:23
Riddellthat would be non-trivial00:40
claydohRiddell: but they don't see it that way unfortunately00:42
apacheloggerclaydoh: well, they can try ;-)01:04
Riddellhow does this read?  http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Languages/Python/PyKDE_WebKit_Tutorial01:04
claydohapachelogger: my point exactly :) Having someone publish his own kde3 for itrepid (that *removes* kde4) worries me01:05
apacheloggerwell, you can't stop them anyway ;-)01:06
apacheloggerwe probably could help with getting KDE 3 into usr/lib/kde3, like KDE 4 was in hardy01:06
claydohapachelogger: I am trying to politely steer people to ask questions, maybe join the  community more than just complain on a  forum01:06
claydohapachelogger: my thought as well01:07
apacheloggerfrom the point of we-did-it-once-and-know-how-to-fix-issues01:07
claydohapachelogger: exactly :)01:07
claydohbut I get tired of it all now01:08
claydohI must be a kde4 fanboi01:08
apachelogger^_^01:09
apacheloggerRiddell: you should make screenshots without the redering glitches in the bottom right corner01:10
* claydoh sighs and goes bck to the forums for a bit01:11
apacheloggerRiddell: good read so far01:12
JontheEchidnaRiddell: bug 203331, latest comment has a much better patch03:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 203331 in adept "Recommend that users launch Adept with kdesudo" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20333103:16
JontheEchidnaIt works quite well here ;-)03:19
JontheEchidnaAlso attached to the upstream bug report03:20
nixternalyay, finally back home!03:28
* JontheEchidna goes to bed04:00
superm1nixternal, you here still?04:20
nixternalphysically yes, mentally no04:20
superm1nixternal, what if the question shouldn't require too much of a though process for some people?04:20
nixternalgo for it04:20
superm1so how are you supposed to receive a complex type in QTDbus stuff?  Like a dict that had a string and variant?04:21
superm1I thought QMap<QString&,QDBusVariant> would do the trick04:21
superm1but it doesn't, and i'm lost at what you are supposed to do then04:22
superm1(I thought i heard murmors of you messing with qt-dbus stuff before)04:22
nixternalI don't think I have messed with qt dbus stuff04:23
superm1oh.04:23
nixternalyou could check out #qt I think it is04:23
superm1yeah i guess i'll have to04:23
nixternalis this python stuff?04:23
superm1no, i wish04:23
nixternalyou using pyqt or c++?04:23
superm1c++04:23
superm1it's kdelibs stuff04:23
superm1er kdebase-workspace stuff better yet04:23
nixternalk, I can't see my screen nor did I see the QMap<jfldfdjafdjlfjd> stuff :)04:23
nixternalthe api docs don't help out much?04:24
superm1well the prospects for this bluetooth stuff are not looking up, i've hit tons of these standstills this weekend04:24
superm1they confuse me04:24
nixternalwhat's up with the bluetooth stuff?04:25
superm1it doesn't work in intrepid04:25
superm1due to the other changes that were made on the stack04:25
nixternalhrmm, I swore I tested it last week and it worked04:25
nixternalbut I can't remember if that was before or after I upgraded to intrepid04:25
superm1well I installed KDE on friday on intrepid04:25
superm1and it's definitely broke04:26
superm1there are TONS of API changes04:26
nixternalI just realized my bluetooth logo isn't in the system tray04:26
superm1which is what i've been trying to work on, since upstream kde folk don't have it as a priority right now04:26
nixternalwhat are you working on kbluetooth stuff for anyways?04:26
superm1because apparently i'm the only one in ubuntu-land that understands what changes in this bluetooth 3.x -> 4.x api04:27
nixternalya, honestly I don't see bluetooth lasting forever, kind of like firewire :)04:27
superm1well i'll put a few more hours towards it this week, but the diff is growing to 2500 lines now, and i'm running into these difficulties along the way04:27
superm1i'll pass my diff to upstream for some input if i'm at least on the right path i guess04:28
nixternalgroovy04:28
superm1http://doc.trolltech.com/4.3/qdbustypesystem.html04:28
superm1that's what gets me confused on this stuff, but i'll push on in #qt04:29
nixternaloh ya dude, I do remember looking at that stuff, but that was like 2 years ago04:30
txwikinger2hi nixternal04:30
nixternalwhen qt4 was built by hand for us here04:30
txwikinger2How was Ohio?04:30
nixternalhowdy txwikinger204:30
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nixternaltxwikinger2: it rocked...thought I am hoping a) video doesn't makes it way to youtube, and pictures don't make there way to the internet04:30
nixternalI made a complete full out of my self last night at the after-party04:31
txwikinger:D04:31
nixternaland started a new UDS tradition that will kick off thanks to jono04:31
txwikingerWhat would that be?04:31
nixternala Dance Off04:31
txwikingerROFL04:31
txwikingerWell.. if you have ever again problems with Jono.. ask him for the duck04:32
nixternallast night it was Kubuntu vs. Foresight vs. Fedora vs. Arch vs Linux For Arm04:32
superm1a dance off?  oh noes.04:32
nixternalForesight won only because of what he did, and it should have been illegal04:32
txwikingerI hope it was line dancing :D04:32
nixternalI was winning the thing hands down and then he stripped04:32
nixternala fat guy who takes his shirt off and twirls it can't be beaten04:33
txwikingerWell.. sounds like LRL then04:33
nixternalI am monitoring flickr and youtube hoping they don't get posted04:34
Hobbseea jono dance off?  This could get interesting04:35
Hobbseenixternal: are you coming to UDS?04:35
nixternalHobbsee: yes04:36
nixternalI heard you are as well04:36
* Hobbsee is04:36
nixternalrock on04:36
* Hobbsee will not be dancing, though04:36
nixternaloh yes you will!04:36
nixternalit will be me and Riddell vs. a thousand GNOMErz then04:36
Hobbseehah04:37
* Hobbsee can't dance :P04:37
txwikingerNixternal.. line dance?04:37
nixternalno line dancing, you just gotta go all out and hurt yourself type of dancing04:37
* Hobbsee would prefer *not* to be broken04:38
Hobbseehey, maybe this time people won't try to break me!04:38
nixternalhehe04:38
Hobbseenote to general public:  Hobbsee has small wrists.  You should not twist them.04:38
superm1advertising this; isn't that just encouraging it?04:38
Hobbseeor at least, if you do, only do it gently, and not hard enough to smash them.  Else Hobbsee *will* smash you, and keep smashing you wherever she finds to smash, until you stop04:39
Hobbseesuperm1: i hope not - i'd prefer not to have to visit the medical center.04:39
superm1Hobbsee, yeah i wouldn't recommend it unless you have decent American insurance ;)04:39
nixternalHobbsee: I got your back, anyone twists, I will smash um for ya :)04:40
Hobbseenixternal: thanks :)04:40
txwikingerWell.  nixternal.. get all those GNOMErz to break their wrists, then KDE will rock even more04:40
Hobbseesuperm1: i'll have travel insurance - hope that counts04:40
nixternalno, I think we need to do a mosh pit...last night jono, the michigan loco, and I were in a mosh pit...it was awesome04:40
nixternalso we need to mosh04:40
* txwikinger is tired from thanks giving meals04:40
Hobbseehaha04:40
* Hobbsee --> uni04:41
txwikingerand tomorrow there is more of it04:41
Hobbseetxwikinger: besides, i don't contribute to gnome much.04:41
txwikingerNo you Hobbsee04:41
txwikinger+t04:43
* txwikinger is searching a weather widget for KDE404:43
yao_ziyuani recommend these two svg wallpapers05:50
yao_ziyuanfor the next or next-to-next version of kubuntu:05:50
yao_ziyuan1. http://kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/83789-kwallpaper.svg05:51
yao_ziyuan2. http://kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/25027-time.svg.tar.gz05:51
yao_ziyuanthey look very perfect and enduring05:52
yao_ziyuandurable05:52
Tm_Terr, ok05:52
Jucatowhat? you're still surpised? :)05:53
Tm_Tno, not really05:58
yao_ziyuanshowoff: my kde4 desktop. http://i34.tinypic.com/294nf3p.png09:25
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wepihahmm I don't seem to get ccmake with cmake, is this normal?10:10
Riddellwepiha: it's in the cmake package in intrepid10:13
wepihaRiddell: I have the cmake_2.6.0-4ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1_i386 package installled.10:17
wepihain 8.0410:17
Riddellwepiha: indeed it's not there, how strange that's the same version as in intrepid which does have it10:26
Riddellmm, no it's not10:28
wepihaRiddell: should I be worried?10:30
Riddellwepiha: ah, you want cmake_2.6.0-4ubuntu1~hardy1 from hardy-backports10:30
apacheloggerbug 22446110:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 224461 in kdebase-workspace "Kubuntu do not show date and time in the correct format" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22446110:36
apacheloggerthe usr dood is THE confuser10:36
Riddellapachelogger: that should fix itself when/if we get language-packs10:37
apacheloggeryeah there are a couple of bugs which are most likely related to that10:37
wepihaRiddell: okay thanks that has helped10:44
freeflyingapachelogger: wee will have amarok topic on gnome.asia summit this weekend10:46
apacheloggerfreeflying: how so?10:53
freeflyingapachelogger: a gsoc student will have a topic on upcoming gnome.asia summit this weekend http://www.gnome.asia10:54
davmor2Riddell: I there an easy way to do an upgrade from Kubuntu hardy to Kubuntu intrepid10:54
davmor2s/I/Is10:55
Tm_Tdavmor2: wajig dist-upgrade (dunno if you have to manually edit sources.list first)10:55
apacheloggerfreeflying: cool :)10:55
Tm_Tdavmor2: unsupported method btw10:55
apacheloggerdavmor2: kubuntu.org10:55
davmor2apachelogger: Ta thought there must be a way :)10:57
Riddelldavmor2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades/Kubuntu10:58
davmor2yes ta Riddell10:58
asachi11:21
asacis gnash actually used on kde?11:21
asace.g. in hardy11:21
Riddellasac: how do you mean?  if people install it, then it is11:33
asacRiddell: does mozilla-plugin-gnash work in konqueror?11:39
Riddellasac: interesting question, let me try11:41
asacRiddell: thanks11:42
asacits nsapi plugin ... not sure how good the legacy layer for konqueror is ... or whether its just a specific hack for adobe flash11:43
Riddellasac: no it doesn't seem to work11:48
asacRiddell: ok. i uploaded a snapshot of gnash to ~gnash ppa11:51
asacRiddell: i will test that then ;)11:51
asacRiddell: did that nsapi plugin install go into new package11:52
asac?11:52
asacanyway ... i will try with the latest here. thanks11:53
Riddellasac: go into which new package?11:55
davmor2Riddell: on my upgrade I noticed something weird hitting Katapult and typing in konq and hitting enter brings up KDEInit could not launch '/usr/lib/kde4/bin/kfmclient'.12:14
Riddelldavmor2: if you launch apps during an upgrade there is a large chance they will be broken12:32
davmor2Riddell: this is after rebooting once the upgrade has finished12:33
Riddellhmm12:36
xerosis_davmor2: see bug 18433712:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 184337 in kde4libs "KDEInit could not launch XXXX" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18433712:37
Riddelldavmor2: do you still have /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kfmclient ?12:38
JontheEchidnagood morning12:39
davmor2Riddell: no /bin/ folder12:40
RiddellI wonder why it's looking in /usr/lib/kde4/bin/ then12:42
Riddelldavmor2: do you have $KDEDIRS set?  or anything about /usr/lib/kde4/bin/ in $LD_LIBRARY_PATH or $PATH12:43
davmor2Riddell: the end of path says : No such file or directory12:46
davmor2$KDEDIRS doesn't display anything nor does $LD_LIBRARY_PATH12:48
davmor2Guys what is the command that shows all the settings?12:52
Riddellenv shows all the environment variables12:53
davmor2that's the one ta12:54
davmor2Riddell: nothing showing up there that points to /usr/share/kde4/bin12:57
Riddelldavmor2: grep /usr/lib/kde4/bin/ ~/.kde * -r12:57
yao_ziyuanone thing i don't feel happy with13:01
yao_ziyuanabout kdm13:01
yao_ziyuanwhen the screen is locked13:01
davmor2whole bunch of /home/user/.kde/socket-user-desktop/..... : No such device or address13:01
yao_ziyuanand i typed any key to start to enter the password13:01
yao_ziyuanif i don't act quickly, the password input box is to disappear anytime soon13:01
yao_ziyuani feel a panic about this13:01
yao_ziyuani want it to stay there at least 5 minutes13:02
yao_ziyuanso i can type my password at a slow speed13:02
yao_ziyuancurrently i must enter the password in a hurry13:02
yao_ziyuanimagine if you're in a slow mood13:02
yao_ziyuanand you're forced to do something very quickly13:02
yao_ziyuanthat hurts13:02
Riddellyao_ziyuan: report a bug on bugs.kde.org13:03
Riddelldavmor2: dunno, I can't get katapult to do anything, maybe we should just remove it from the archive13:03
Riddellkrunner (alt-f2) is the way to go13:04
davmor2Riddell: pass just letting you know :)13:04
davmor2Riddell: yeah that works :)13:04
Riddelldavmor2: otherwise upgrade was ok?13:05
yao_ziyuanRiddell: can i set a new idle time for the password window to disappear13:06
Riddellyao_ziyuan: if you find the relevant place in the code13:06
davmor2Riddell: seems to be I'm still working through all the apps so I can ping you when I finish :)13:06
Riddelldavmor2: upgrading from hardy KDE 3 or 4?13:06
davmor2from the default hardy kde313:07
Riddelldavmor2: if you launch adept it should pop up the kdesudo dialogue for your password, check that it launches adept after that13:07
davmor2Riddell: Yeah seems fine13:09
Riddelldavmor2: great13:10
davmor2tpying in flash shows up everything I expect to see so doesn't seem to be an issue :)13:10
JontheEchidnaRiddell: would you happen to know if the "Star Ratings" for applications in Adept are related to popcorn?13:12
RiddellJontheEchidna: yes it should be13:12
JontheEchidnaok, thanks13:12
RiddellJontheEchidna: grep Pop /usr/share/app-install/desktop/zim.desktop13:12
Riddelldo we still have that in adept 3?13:13
asacRiddell: so would the world fall appart when gnash wouldnt support kde?13:17
asacRiddell: they only have kde3 support13:17
asacfor 0.8.413:18
asacnow i dont know what to do13:18
Riddellasac: no that's ok, it's a natural consequence of changing to a major new version that some apps won't yet be ported13:18
asacthough i doubt that sticking to 0.8.2 makes any sense at all (should be equally broken for kde4)13:18
asacRiddell: ok sorry for that. i tried hard and tried the bleeding edge kde4 branch. but that just has issues and doesnt work at all either :(13:19
Riddellasac: thanks for trying, do you know who's working on the kde 4 branch?13:19
asacRiddell: yes gnash folks. its just that they didnt make it for the 0.8.4 release (they have aligned their release cycle to ours)13:21
asacRiddell: they resurrected things in the lats few weeks for kde4, but now decided that this will be first thing for 0.8.513:22
JontheEchidnaRiddell: We don't have popcorn stuffs for Adept3. There is a wishlist filed upstream though.13:22
Riddellasac: how very nice of them.  as I say I'm fine with dropping it for intrepid since I can't see a sensible way to get it working and some loss is inevitable in the move to KDE 4 (it's why the release is called intrepid)13:24
asacRiddell: yes. i will keep the packages empty. so in case someone has it installed will automatically get the bits when they upgrade13:38
asacdepending on how close to 0.8.4 they finish their kde work we might consider to send the patch through -proposed13:38
JontheEchidnaRiddell: btw, did you see my updated patch I posted in the bug?14:00
JontheEchidnaIs it better? At the least, it works for me, but I'm not that amazing with C++14:01
metelliusapachelogger: commited readonly gz support to trunk now.14:24
metelliusfor akr14:24
metelliusark14:24
RiddellJontheEchidna: no I don't think I did14:36
JontheEchidnaRiddell: if you find time, it's in the latest comment of bug 20333114:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 203331 in adept "Recommend that users launch Adept with kdesudo" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20333114:41
apacheloggerwoohoo15:13
* apachelogger hugs metellius15:13
apacheloggerhttp://aplg.kollide.net/screencasts/ark-gz.ogg15:18
apacheloggerScottK2, JontheEchidna, Riddell: ^15:19
metelliusa question: tar (and possibley other formats) allow same filename several times15:20
metelliushow should the view actually handle that? showing the same file twice?15:20
metelliusit kind of breaks the filename+path = unique id pattern15:21
apacheloggerin KDE 3 it did show them15:21
apacheloggerotherwise we would have never noticed that kdevelop creates crappy tarballs by adding every file in admin/ twice ;-)15:22
metelliusah15:23
metelliusi still breaks everything though15:24
Riddellapachelogger: ooh?  how did you get that to happen?15:24
apacheloggerRiddell: metellius implemented readonly support in trunk :D15:24
apacheloggeruploading to my ppa shortly15:25
Riddellapachelogger: I'm going to commit our ksmserver/plasma logout patch to trunk15:27
apacheloggerRiddell: the icon for supsend to ram is wrong though15:28
apacheloggerRiddell: should be system-suspend not system-suspend-hibernate15:29
metelliusapachelogger: since you're the only svn ark user that I actually know of; have you tested the service menus?15:30
apacheloggernot recently15:31
apacheloggerhm15:32
apacheloggermetellius: I guess you could ask for feedback at amarok-neon@googlegroups.com15:32
* apachelogger noticed there are a lot of kde-nightly packages users subscribed as well ;-)15:32
metelliusok15:33
Riddell        item->setIcon(KIcon("system-suspend"));15:33
Riddell        item->setData(i18n("Suspend to RAM"), Kickoff::SubTitleRole);15:33
Riddellapachelogger: seems right there15:34
apacheloggerhm15:34
apacheloggerweird15:34
apacheloggerRiddell: I was more thinking about suspend to ram15:35
apachelogger+        item->setIcon(KIcon("system-suspend-hibernate"));15:35
apachelogger+        item->setData(i18n("Pause without logging out"),Kickoff::SubTitleRole);15:35
* apachelogger is wondering why he does have no standby option15:35
apacheloggerall solids fault15:36
apacheloggerRiddell: well, just forget about it for now15:36
Tm_Tapachelogger: what's our fix for bluez api change?15:40
apacheloggerI am not sure we have one yet, though I have been told someone works on updating solid-bluez15:41
Tm_Tah, splendid15:43
Tm_Tnice mess indeedio15:43
apacheloggervorian: you are working on bug 24330 ?15:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 24330 in kdeutils "CIFS mount blocks suspend/hibernate" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2433015:43
apacheloggervorian: and bug 22175 ?15:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 22175 in kdeutils "Simple bug in kcm_kcmlirc + patch (hang after Add action click)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2217515:44
davmor2Riddell: Finish.  Flash (Gnash/Flashnon-free or swf plugin) with Konq doesn't want to work. Katapult needs removing.  Couldn't connect to my samba share any which way I tried.15:51
Tm_Tapachelogger: remind me, was this bluez api change told in kubuntu-devel ml or similar? just checking facts15:53
apacheloggerTm_T: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2008-October/thread.html15:54
apacheloggerbluez thread15:54
Tm_Tah, thanks son15:54
Tm_TI'm in the middle of an hussle15:54
apacheloggerTm_T: how so?16:09
Tm_Tapachelogger: married, kid is coming, lots of stuff going on in overall16:09
apachelogger*nod*16:09
Tm_Talso upgraded to intrepid16:10
apacheloggeruh16:10
apacheloggerbad idea :P16:10
Tm_Thow so, son?16:10
apacheloggerall broken16:11
apacheloggergetting broken ever day I think16:11
apacheloggerRiddell, JontheEchidna, ScottK2: pleas test ark https://edge.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+archive16:11
Tm_Thow so, son?16:12
apacheloggerubuntu doesn't like us aynymore :(16:12
Tm_Tit has been liking?16:13
apachelogger:P16:14
apacheloggerRiddell: does the patches directory in kde4libs have any use?16:16
Riddellapachelogger: debian/patches/ ?16:17
apacheloggerRiddell: kde4libs-4.1.2/patches16:17
Riddellapachelogger: no, that'll be me trying to use quilt and failing :)16:17
apacheloggerah :)16:17
* apachelogger should write a tutorial about it16:18
* JontheEchidna tests16:18
JontheEchidnaHa, I already have apachelogger's ppa16:19
lokpesthmm, I upgraded My Dell Inspiron 6400 from Gutsy to Hardy the other day, pressing the "mediadirect"-button (that in gutsy poped up amarok) now makes all the mediabuttons funktioanlity to crash16:19
JontheEchidnalokpest: support questions should go to #kubuntu ;-)16:20
lokpestany idea? whats the program/deamon/package handeling that called?16:20
JontheEchidnaKMilo I think16:21
lokpestJontheEchidna: oh.. asked there yesterday and no answerm thought you might atleas knew where to look16:21
lokpestwill check out KMilo then...16:21
apacheloggerRiddell: any changes for kde4libs which need uploading?16:31
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: needs to dep on libcups2-dev instead of libcupsys2-dev16:33
apacheloggerdidn't you do that already?16:33
JontheEchidnathat got superseded or something16:33
apachelogger-(~/src/deb/libs/kde4libs-4.1.2:$)-> grep -r -i 'cups' debian/changelog16:34
apachelogger  * Transition from libcupsys2 to libcups2 (lp: #279345):16:34
apachelogger    + debian/control: Replace libcupsys2-dev with libcups2-dev.16:34
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: it is in the package16:34
JontheEchidnaoh, good then. :]16:34
apacheloggereverything else doesn't matter16:34
Riddellapachelogger: not from me16:35
apacheloggerok16:35
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: diff.gz's don't work for me16:39
apacheloggerhm16:39
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: did you restart los arkos?16:40
JontheEchidnayes, I even did a killall ark to make sure16:40
apacheloggerhum16:40
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: are you sure you got the right package version?16:42
JontheEchidnajonathan@jonathan-desktop:~/ubuntu/adept$ apt-cache policy ark16:42
JontheEchidnaark:16:42
JontheEchidna  Installed: 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu4~ppa116:42
apacheloggerhm16:42
apacheloggeroh16:42
* apachelogger prolly forgot the build-dep16:43
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asfakare we going to have servicemenu like root action or extract&compress as default. ?17:30
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bobesponjais sound broken with intrepid?19:29
bobesponjaI get sound with gstreamer only but the mic is not working, with xine I get neither input nor output19:30
apachelogger\sh: git + quilt is just sweet ... qgit shows 0.3.0.1 to 0.3.0.2, I pick the changes I want, view their patch, copy the patch to a file and quilt import that file19:37
apacheloggerthat would be a perfect candidate for scripting :D19:37
Riddellbobesponja: works for me19:43
bobesponjaRiddell: not working here :/19:43
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: this time ark should be working ;-)19:52
JontheEchidnahehe19:53
Xand3rapachelogger: i am now in a good mode, i am updating my pbuilder,. maybe i package something in some hours^^19:57
Xand3ruff i think i hav eforgotten the most19:58
apacheloggerXand3r: that sounds like you are asking for work :P19:58
Xand3rapachelogger: not now, you know my internet, updating needs time, much time19:58
apacheloggertrue19:59
* apachelogger should upgrade his connection to 8mbit19:59
apacheloggerthat comes with 1mbit up IIRC :D19:59
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apacheloggerJontheEchidna: does it work?20:02
JontheEchidnadunno, I was afk for a few minutes and forgot to start the update before I left, so it's still updating, hehe20:02
JontheEchidnaand kde4libs is quite large so it'd still be downloading anyway20:03
apacheloggeroh my20:04
* apachelogger compiles qgit4 meanwhile20:04
apacheloggerI am wondering why we still ship the qt3 version20:05
JontheEchidnaomg, xulrunner updates too20:07
JontheEchidnaand firefox20:07
apacheloggermhh20:07
apacheloggerqt 4 version is fancy20:07
apachelogger<320:07
bobesponjait looks like there is a bug for my sound issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/27733920:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 277339 in linux "No sound (HDA Intel Sigmatel STAC9200) Intrepid Beta" [Undecided,Incomplete]20:14
sebasI'm trying to build kdebindings from trunk/, is there an easy way to get SIP >= 4.6.720:42
sebasStandard in hardy is 4.6.320:42
sebasI mean 4.7.6 and 4.7.320:42
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: oh, diff.gz works now btw21:03
Tm_Tapachelogger: wakey wakey21:05
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_Simesebas: are you seeing a build error with kdebindings from trunk?21:23
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Riddell21:12 < sebas> Right now, cmake wants to install into /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PyKDE421:26
RiddellI want things in /home/kdedev/kde to not bugger up my system21:26
Riddell_Sime: is what he said21:26
Riddell21:13 < sebas> But I'll be away for 4 days, I can get Simon over here and then we fix things until things are fixed21:27
Riddell_Sime: so I guess that's you told :)21:27
_Simepython 2.6 supports a site-packages dir in your home directory. earlier versions don't.21:28
_Simeto get everything working out of svn you need to build and install your own private python. (PITA)21:28
_Simeand then install sip and pyqt (quite easy).21:28
Riddellhmm, that sounds like more hassle than I'd expect21:30
Riddell_Sime: did you see the tutorial I put up?21:30
Riddell_Sime: oh and did you upgrade to intrepid?21:30
_SimeRiddell: I saw that you put a tutorial up; haven't read it. (will do)21:31
Riddell_Sime: well I doubt you'll learn very much :)21:31
_SimeRiddell: yes I did upgrade. Only hitch was the xorg i810 => intel thing wasn't automatic. maybe I had touched my xorg.conf.21:32
sebasAh, sime online in fact :)21:32
_SimeRiddell: I've got a copy of "Rapid GUI programming with Python and Qt" here. I've learnt stuff from it. ;)21:32
_Simesebas: we should meet up sometime once you get back after "unplugging".21:33
sebas_Sime: yup21:33
sebas24th, maybe?21:34
_Simesebas: are you keen to try out some plasma stuff?21:34
Riddellapachelogger: media devices in amarok are not very smooth, I could make a package with kded_mediamanager from kde 3, and it wants to use kdeeject for umounting when I guess mount would work21:34
sebasI'll have to ask Kim if social life is kicking in that day, but I guess not21:34
_Simesebas: 24th => friday?21:34
sebas_Sime: yes, yes21:34
sebasC++ is annoying21:34
_Simesebas: sounds good. I've got this week free.21:34
sebasOr better, I've got some ideas for plasmoids that are relatively easy, but not worth doing in C++ IMO21:35
sebasow, good. So it'll be smooth once I return? :-)21:35
_SimeI haven't spent too much time lately with it, But I saw the soft freeze coming. ;)21:35
_SimeI need to figure out why python dataengines aren't being picked up by plasma21:36
sebasAh, dataengines as well21:36
sebasIntrepid has python 2.6?21:37
sebas(So upgrading to Intrepid will solve all my problems)21:37
Riddellsebas: no21:37
_Simenope21:37
Riddellbut it has python 321:37
sebasGuess it'll be symlinking then21:37
Riddellwhy go for half measures? :)21:37
sebasHeh, point taken.21:38
_SimeI reckon I''ve hit all of the hard problems with plasma already, so data engines shouldn't be hard to get working.21:38
_Simethe code is mostly done, plasma just doesn't see them.21:38
sebasWorst case, we don't care about dataengine21:40
sebasApplets and *much* more important21:40
sebasBut better have them working as well, right21:40
Riddellare there python krunners?21:41
_Simeno, not yet at least.21:42
* a|wen has been playing around with inkscape: http://awen.dk/artwork/kubuntu-810/kubuntu-810-ibex.png22:33
Xand3rgood morning^^22:37
Xand3ra|wen: nice work22:37
Xand3rapachelogger:  are you there?22:39
a|wenXand3r: thx :)22:40
Riddella|wen: hey, that's really good22:42
a|wenthx a lot Riddell22:43
a|wenif anybody has some ideas for improvement, i'm open for those :)22:44
Xand3rapachelogger: if you are ther i need realy easy work cause i have packaged the last time for a half year22:44
JontheEchidnaXand3r: mainly we're fixing bugs at this stage, but on the 19th we're gonna package KDE 4.2 alpha1 :]23:03
_gunni_JontheEchidna: Really? Thought i have to wait till january, but that would be really great, cause i am so impatient23:06
JontheEchidnaYeah. Last time we didn't have KDE 4.1 alpha packages because we didn't have enough packagers at the time, but this time around we should be well prepared23:07
* _gunni_ bounces happy through his room ... boing boing boing boing23:08
JontheEchidnaBut for now the Kubuntu ninjas are on batholidays23:08
JontheEchidnaHa, in 16 pt font "KDE TechBase has a problem"23:09
JontheEchidnathey should up that to 32 for the lulz23:09
Xand3rJontheEchidna: ah, good to know23:11
Xand3ri will talk with apachelogger if there is work i can help with23:12
Xand3rgood night guys23:12
Xand3rc ya23:12
a|wennight Xand3r23:12

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