claydoh | Good eveining folks! | 00:04 |
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claydoh | will Hardy keep getting kde4 updates for a while after intrepid? | 00:06 |
apachelogger | claydoh: unlikely | 00:11 |
apachelogger | that would mean creating packages for 3 series | 00:12 |
Hobbsee | apachelogger: ppa build time is cheap, though | 00:12 |
Hobbsee | apachelogger: won't the packages (sources) be pretty similar? | 00:12 |
apachelogger | not the package creation | 00:12 |
apachelogger | Hobbsee: for jaunty and intrepid | 00:12 |
apachelogger | not for hardy | 00:12 |
Hobbsee | ah, right | 00:12 |
claydoh | will there be be updates at least through Intredid, before jaunty? | 00:16 |
claydoh | or is it likely to end much sooner? | 00:16 |
claydoh | inquiring forum users want to know :) | 00:17 |
claydoh | speaking of forum users, I tried pointing some people here who want to have kde3x in intrepid | 00:18 |
claydoh | a ppa repo would sound like a good project for them to try | 00:18 |
claydoh | as opposed to crabbing or staying with hardy | 00:19 |
claydoh | I have one user who want the most current kernel, the latest xorg, , drivers et al but wants to run kde3 | 00:23 |
Riddell | that would be non-trivial | 00:40 |
claydoh | Riddell: but they don't see it that way unfortunately | 00:42 |
apachelogger | claydoh: well, they can try ;-) | 01:04 |
Riddell | how does this read? http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Languages/Python/PyKDE_WebKit_Tutorial | 01:04 |
claydoh | apachelogger: my point exactly :) Having someone publish his own kde3 for itrepid (that *removes* kde4) worries me | 01:05 |
apachelogger | well, you can't stop them anyway ;-) | 01:06 |
apachelogger | we probably could help with getting KDE 3 into usr/lib/kde3, like KDE 4 was in hardy | 01:06 |
claydoh | apachelogger: I am trying to politely steer people to ask questions, maybe join the community more than just complain on a forum | 01:06 |
claydoh | apachelogger: my thought as well | 01:07 |
apachelogger | from the point of we-did-it-once-and-know-how-to-fix-issues | 01:07 |
claydoh | apachelogger: exactly :) | 01:07 |
claydoh | but I get tired of it all now | 01:08 |
claydoh | I must be a kde4 fanboi | 01:08 |
apachelogger | ^_^ | 01:09 |
apachelogger | Riddell: you should make screenshots without the redering glitches in the bottom right corner | 01:10 |
* claydoh sighs and goes bck to the forums for a bit | 01:11 | |
apachelogger | Riddell: good read so far | 01:12 |
JontheEchidna | Riddell: bug 203331, latest comment has a much better patch | 03:16 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 203331 in adept "Recommend that users launch Adept with kdesudo" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203331 | 03:16 |
JontheEchidna | It works quite well here ;-) | 03:19 |
JontheEchidna | Also attached to the upstream bug report | 03:20 |
nixternal | yay, finally back home! | 03:28 |
* JontheEchidna goes to bed | 04:00 | |
superm1 | nixternal, you here still? | 04:20 |
nixternal | physically yes, mentally no | 04:20 |
superm1 | nixternal, what if the question shouldn't require too much of a though process for some people? | 04:20 |
nixternal | go for it | 04:20 |
superm1 | so how are you supposed to receive a complex type in QTDbus stuff? Like a dict that had a string and variant? | 04:21 |
superm1 | I thought QMap<QString&,QDBusVariant> would do the trick | 04:21 |
superm1 | but it doesn't, and i'm lost at what you are supposed to do then | 04:22 |
superm1 | (I thought i heard murmors of you messing with qt-dbus stuff before) | 04:22 |
nixternal | I don't think I have messed with qt dbus stuff | 04:23 |
superm1 | oh. | 04:23 |
nixternal | you could check out #qt I think it is | 04:23 |
superm1 | yeah i guess i'll have to | 04:23 |
nixternal | is this python stuff? | 04:23 |
superm1 | no, i wish | 04:23 |
nixternal | you using pyqt or c++? | 04:23 |
superm1 | c++ | 04:23 |
superm1 | it's kdelibs stuff | 04:23 |
superm1 | er kdebase-workspace stuff better yet | 04:23 |
nixternal | k, I can't see my screen nor did I see the QMap<jfldfdjafdjlfjd> stuff :) | 04:23 |
nixternal | the api docs don't help out much? | 04:24 |
superm1 | well the prospects for this bluetooth stuff are not looking up, i've hit tons of these standstills this weekend | 04:24 |
superm1 | they confuse me | 04:24 |
nixternal | what's up with the bluetooth stuff? | 04:25 |
superm1 | it doesn't work in intrepid | 04:25 |
superm1 | due to the other changes that were made on the stack | 04:25 |
nixternal | hrmm, I swore I tested it last week and it worked | 04:25 |
nixternal | but I can't remember if that was before or after I upgraded to intrepid | 04:25 |
superm1 | well I installed KDE on friday on intrepid | 04:25 |
superm1 | and it's definitely broke | 04:26 |
superm1 | there are TONS of API changes | 04:26 |
nixternal | I just realized my bluetooth logo isn't in the system tray | 04:26 |
superm1 | which is what i've been trying to work on, since upstream kde folk don't have it as a priority right now | 04:26 |
nixternal | what are you working on kbluetooth stuff for anyways? | 04:26 |
superm1 | because apparently i'm the only one in ubuntu-land that understands what changes in this bluetooth 3.x -> 4.x api | 04:27 |
nixternal | ya, honestly I don't see bluetooth lasting forever, kind of like firewire :) | 04:27 |
superm1 | well i'll put a few more hours towards it this week, but the diff is growing to 2500 lines now, and i'm running into these difficulties along the way | 04:27 |
superm1 | i'll pass my diff to upstream for some input if i'm at least on the right path i guess | 04:28 |
nixternal | groovy | 04:28 |
superm1 | http://doc.trolltech.com/4.3/qdbustypesystem.html | 04:28 |
superm1 | that's what gets me confused on this stuff, but i'll push on in #qt | 04:29 |
nixternal | oh ya dude, I do remember looking at that stuff, but that was like 2 years ago | 04:30 |
txwikinger2 | hi nixternal | 04:30 |
nixternal | when qt4 was built by hand for us here | 04:30 |
txwikinger2 | How was Ohio? | 04:30 |
nixternal | howdy txwikinger2 | 04:30 |
=== txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger | ||
nixternal | txwikinger2: it rocked...thought I am hoping a) video doesn't makes it way to youtube, and pictures don't make there way to the internet | 04:30 |
nixternal | I made a complete full out of my self last night at the after-party | 04:31 |
txwikinger | :D | 04:31 |
nixternal | and started a new UDS tradition that will kick off thanks to jono | 04:31 |
txwikinger | What would that be? | 04:31 |
nixternal | a Dance Off | 04:31 |
txwikinger | ROFL | 04:31 |
txwikinger | Well.. if you have ever again problems with Jono.. ask him for the duck | 04:32 |
nixternal | last night it was Kubuntu vs. Foresight vs. Fedora vs. Arch vs Linux For Arm | 04:32 |
superm1 | a dance off? oh noes. | 04:32 |
nixternal | Foresight won only because of what he did, and it should have been illegal | 04:32 |
txwikinger | I hope it was line dancing :D | 04:32 |
nixternal | I was winning the thing hands down and then he stripped | 04:32 |
nixternal | a fat guy who takes his shirt off and twirls it can't be beaten | 04:33 |
txwikinger | Well.. sounds like LRL then | 04:33 |
nixternal | I am monitoring flickr and youtube hoping they don't get posted | 04:34 |
Hobbsee | a jono dance off? This could get interesting | 04:35 |
Hobbsee | nixternal: are you coming to UDS? | 04:35 |
nixternal | Hobbsee: yes | 04:36 |
nixternal | I heard you are as well | 04:36 |
* Hobbsee is | 04:36 | |
nixternal | rock on | 04:36 |
* Hobbsee will not be dancing, though | 04:36 | |
nixternal | oh yes you will! | 04:36 |
nixternal | it will be me and Riddell vs. a thousand GNOMErz then | 04:36 |
Hobbsee | hah | 04:37 |
* Hobbsee can't dance :P | 04:37 | |
txwikinger | Nixternal.. line dance? | 04:37 |
nixternal | no line dancing, you just gotta go all out and hurt yourself type of dancing | 04:37 |
* Hobbsee would prefer *not* to be broken | 04:38 | |
Hobbsee | hey, maybe this time people won't try to break me! | 04:38 |
nixternal | hehe | 04:38 |
Hobbsee | note to general public: Hobbsee has small wrists. You should not twist them. | 04:38 |
superm1 | advertising this; isn't that just encouraging it? | 04:38 |
Hobbsee | or at least, if you do, only do it gently, and not hard enough to smash them. Else Hobbsee *will* smash you, and keep smashing you wherever she finds to smash, until you stop | 04:39 |
Hobbsee | superm1: i hope not - i'd prefer not to have to visit the medical center. | 04:39 |
superm1 | Hobbsee, yeah i wouldn't recommend it unless you have decent American insurance ;) | 04:39 |
nixternal | Hobbsee: I got your back, anyone twists, I will smash um for ya :) | 04:40 |
Hobbsee | nixternal: thanks :) | 04:40 |
txwikinger | Well. nixternal.. get all those GNOMErz to break their wrists, then KDE will rock even more | 04:40 |
Hobbsee | superm1: i'll have travel insurance - hope that counts | 04:40 |
nixternal | no, I think we need to do a mosh pit...last night jono, the michigan loco, and I were in a mosh pit...it was awesome | 04:40 |
nixternal | so we need to mosh | 04:40 |
* txwikinger is tired from thanks giving meals | 04:40 | |
Hobbsee | haha | 04:40 |
* Hobbsee --> uni | 04:41 | |
txwikinger | and tomorrow there is more of it | 04:41 |
Hobbsee | txwikinger: besides, i don't contribute to gnome much. | 04:41 |
txwikinger | No you Hobbsee | 04:41 |
txwikinger | +t | 04:43 |
* txwikinger is searching a weather widget for KDE4 | 04:43 | |
yao_ziyuan | i recommend these two svg wallpapers | 05:50 |
yao_ziyuan | for the next or next-to-next version of kubuntu: | 05:50 |
yao_ziyuan | 1. http://kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/83789-kwallpaper.svg | 05:51 |
yao_ziyuan | 2. http://kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/25027-time.svg.tar.gz | 05:51 |
yao_ziyuan | they look very perfect and enduring | 05:52 |
yao_ziyuan | durable | 05:52 |
Tm_T | err, ok | 05:52 |
Jucato | what? you're still surpised? :) | 05:53 |
Tm_T | no, not really | 05:58 |
yao_ziyuan | showoff: my kde4 desktop. http://i34.tinypic.com/294nf3p.png | 09:25 |
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wepiha | hmm I don't seem to get ccmake with cmake, is this normal? | 10:10 |
Riddell | wepiha: it's in the cmake package in intrepid | 10:13 |
wepiha | Riddell: I have the cmake_2.6.0-4ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1_i386 package installled. | 10:17 |
wepiha | in 8.04 | 10:17 |
Riddell | wepiha: indeed it's not there, how strange that's the same version as in intrepid which does have it | 10:26 |
Riddell | mm, no it's not | 10:28 |
wepiha | Riddell: should I be worried? | 10:30 |
Riddell | wepiha: ah, you want cmake_2.6.0-4ubuntu1~hardy1 from hardy-backports | 10:30 |
apachelogger | bug 224461 | 10:36 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 224461 in kdebase-workspace "Kubuntu do not show date and time in the correct format" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/224461 | 10:36 |
apachelogger | the usr dood is THE confuser | 10:36 |
Riddell | apachelogger: that should fix itself when/if we get language-packs | 10:37 |
apachelogger | yeah there are a couple of bugs which are most likely related to that | 10:37 |
wepiha | Riddell: okay thanks that has helped | 10:44 |
freeflying | apachelogger: wee will have amarok topic on gnome.asia summit this weekend | 10:46 |
apachelogger | freeflying: how so? | 10:53 |
freeflying | apachelogger: a gsoc student will have a topic on upcoming gnome.asia summit this weekend http://www.gnome.asia | 10:54 |
davmor2 | Riddell: I there an easy way to do an upgrade from Kubuntu hardy to Kubuntu intrepid | 10:54 |
davmor2 | s/I/Is | 10:55 |
Tm_T | davmor2: wajig dist-upgrade (dunno if you have to manually edit sources.list first) | 10:55 |
apachelogger | freeflying: cool :) | 10:55 |
Tm_T | davmor2: unsupported method btw | 10:55 |
apachelogger | davmor2: kubuntu.org | 10:55 |
davmor2 | apachelogger: Ta thought there must be a way :) | 10:57 |
Riddell | davmor2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades/Kubuntu | 10:58 |
davmor2 | yes ta Riddell | 10:58 |
asac | hi | 11:21 |
asac | is gnash actually used on kde? | 11:21 |
asac | e.g. in hardy | 11:21 |
Riddell | asac: how do you mean? if people install it, then it is | 11:33 |
asac | Riddell: does mozilla-plugin-gnash work in konqueror? | 11:39 |
Riddell | asac: interesting question, let me try | 11:41 |
asac | Riddell: thanks | 11:42 |
asac | its nsapi plugin ... not sure how good the legacy layer for konqueror is ... or whether its just a specific hack for adobe flash | 11:43 |
Riddell | asac: no it doesn't seem to work | 11:48 |
asac | Riddell: ok. i uploaded a snapshot of gnash to ~gnash ppa | 11:51 |
asac | Riddell: i will test that then ;) | 11:51 |
asac | Riddell: did that nsapi plugin install go into new package | 11:52 |
asac | ? | 11:52 |
asac | anyway ... i will try with the latest here. thanks | 11:53 |
Riddell | asac: go into which new package? | 11:55 |
davmor2 | Riddell: on my upgrade I noticed something weird hitting Katapult and typing in konq and hitting enter brings up KDEInit could not launch '/usr/lib/kde4/bin/kfmclient'. | 12:14 |
Riddell | davmor2: if you launch apps during an upgrade there is a large chance they will be broken | 12:32 |
davmor2 | Riddell: this is after rebooting once the upgrade has finished | 12:33 |
Riddell | hmm | 12:36 |
xerosis_ | davmor2: see bug 184337 | 12:37 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 184337 in kde4libs "KDEInit could not launch XXXX" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184337 | 12:37 |
Riddell | davmor2: do you still have /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kfmclient ? | 12:38 |
JontheEchidna | good morning | 12:39 |
davmor2 | Riddell: no /bin/ folder | 12:40 |
Riddell | I wonder why it's looking in /usr/lib/kde4/bin/ then | 12:42 |
Riddell | davmor2: do you have $KDEDIRS set? or anything about /usr/lib/kde4/bin/ in $LD_LIBRARY_PATH or $PATH | 12:43 |
davmor2 | Riddell: the end of path says : No such file or directory | 12:46 |
davmor2 | $KDEDIRS doesn't display anything nor does $LD_LIBRARY_PATH | 12:48 |
davmor2 | Guys what is the command that shows all the settings? | 12:52 |
Riddell | env shows all the environment variables | 12:53 |
davmor2 | that's the one ta | 12:54 |
davmor2 | Riddell: nothing showing up there that points to /usr/share/kde4/bin | 12:57 |
Riddell | davmor2: grep /usr/lib/kde4/bin/ ~/.kde * -r | 12:57 |
yao_ziyuan | one thing i don't feel happy with | 13:01 |
yao_ziyuan | about kdm | 13:01 |
yao_ziyuan | when the screen is locked | 13:01 |
davmor2 | whole bunch of /home/user/.kde/socket-user-desktop/..... : No such device or address | 13:01 |
yao_ziyuan | and i typed any key to start to enter the password | 13:01 |
yao_ziyuan | if i don't act quickly, the password input box is to disappear anytime soon | 13:01 |
yao_ziyuan | i feel a panic about this | 13:01 |
yao_ziyuan | i want it to stay there at least 5 minutes | 13:02 |
yao_ziyuan | so i can type my password at a slow speed | 13:02 |
yao_ziyuan | currently i must enter the password in a hurry | 13:02 |
yao_ziyuan | imagine if you're in a slow mood | 13:02 |
yao_ziyuan | and you're forced to do something very quickly | 13:02 |
yao_ziyuan | that hurts | 13:02 |
Riddell | yao_ziyuan: report a bug on bugs.kde.org | 13:03 |
Riddell | davmor2: dunno, I can't get katapult to do anything, maybe we should just remove it from the archive | 13:03 |
Riddell | krunner (alt-f2) is the way to go | 13:04 |
davmor2 | Riddell: pass just letting you know :) | 13:04 |
davmor2 | Riddell: yeah that works :) | 13:04 |
Riddell | davmor2: otherwise upgrade was ok? | 13:05 |
yao_ziyuan | Riddell: can i set a new idle time for the password window to disappear | 13:06 |
Riddell | yao_ziyuan: if you find the relevant place in the code | 13:06 |
davmor2 | Riddell: seems to be I'm still working through all the apps so I can ping you when I finish :) | 13:06 |
Riddell | davmor2: upgrading from hardy KDE 3 or 4? | 13:06 |
davmor2 | from the default hardy kde3 | 13:07 |
Riddell | davmor2: if you launch adept it should pop up the kdesudo dialogue for your password, check that it launches adept after that | 13:07 |
davmor2 | Riddell: Yeah seems fine | 13:09 |
Riddell | davmor2: great | 13:10 |
davmor2 | tpying in flash shows up everything I expect to see so doesn't seem to be an issue :) | 13:10 |
JontheEchidna | Riddell: would you happen to know if the "Star Ratings" for applications in Adept are related to popcorn? | 13:12 |
Riddell | JontheEchidna: yes it should be | 13:12 |
JontheEchidna | ok, thanks | 13:12 |
Riddell | JontheEchidna: grep Pop /usr/share/app-install/desktop/zim.desktop | 13:12 |
Riddell | do we still have that in adept 3? | 13:13 |
asac | Riddell: so would the world fall appart when gnash wouldnt support kde? | 13:17 |
asac | Riddell: they only have kde3 support | 13:17 |
asac | for 0.8.4 | 13:18 |
asac | now i dont know what to do | 13:18 |
Riddell | asac: no that's ok, it's a natural consequence of changing to a major new version that some apps won't yet be ported | 13:18 |
asac | though i doubt that sticking to 0.8.2 makes any sense at all (should be equally broken for kde4) | 13:18 |
asac | Riddell: ok sorry for that. i tried hard and tried the bleeding edge kde4 branch. but that just has issues and doesnt work at all either :( | 13:19 |
Riddell | asac: thanks for trying, do you know who's working on the kde 4 branch? | 13:19 |
asac | Riddell: yes gnash folks. its just that they didnt make it for the 0.8.4 release (they have aligned their release cycle to ours) | 13:21 |
asac | Riddell: they resurrected things in the lats few weeks for kde4, but now decided that this will be first thing for 0.8.5 | 13:22 |
JontheEchidna | Riddell: We don't have popcorn stuffs for Adept3. There is a wishlist filed upstream though. | 13:22 |
Riddell | asac: how very nice of them. as I say I'm fine with dropping it for intrepid since I can't see a sensible way to get it working and some loss is inevitable in the move to KDE 4 (it's why the release is called intrepid) | 13:24 |
asac | Riddell: yes. i will keep the packages empty. so in case someone has it installed will automatically get the bits when they upgrade | 13:38 |
asac | depending on how close to 0.8.4 they finish their kde work we might consider to send the patch through -proposed | 13:38 |
JontheEchidna | Riddell: btw, did you see my updated patch I posted in the bug? | 14:00 |
JontheEchidna | Is it better? At the least, it works for me, but I'm not that amazing with C++ | 14:01 |
metellius | apachelogger: commited readonly gz support to trunk now. | 14:24 |
metellius | for akr | 14:24 |
metellius | ark | 14:24 |
Riddell | JontheEchidna: no I don't think I did | 14:36 |
JontheEchidna | Riddell: if you find time, it's in the latest comment of bug 203331 | 14:41 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 203331 in adept "Recommend that users launch Adept with kdesudo" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203331 | 14:41 |
apachelogger | woohoo | 15:13 |
* apachelogger hugs metellius | 15:13 | |
apachelogger | http://aplg.kollide.net/screencasts/ark-gz.ogg | 15:18 |
apachelogger | ScottK2, JontheEchidna, Riddell: ^ | 15:19 |
metellius | a question: tar (and possibley other formats) allow same filename several times | 15:20 |
metellius | how should the view actually handle that? showing the same file twice? | 15:20 |
metellius | it kind of breaks the filename+path = unique id pattern | 15:21 |
apachelogger | in KDE 3 it did show them | 15:21 |
apachelogger | otherwise we would have never noticed that kdevelop creates crappy tarballs by adding every file in admin/ twice ;-) | 15:22 |
metellius | ah | 15:23 |
metellius | i still breaks everything though | 15:24 |
Riddell | apachelogger: ooh? how did you get that to happen? | 15:24 |
apachelogger | Riddell: metellius implemented readonly support in trunk :D | 15:24 |
apachelogger | uploading to my ppa shortly | 15:25 |
Riddell | apachelogger: I'm going to commit our ksmserver/plasma logout patch to trunk | 15:27 |
apachelogger | Riddell: the icon for supsend to ram is wrong though | 15:28 |
apachelogger | Riddell: should be system-suspend not system-suspend-hibernate | 15:29 |
metellius | apachelogger: since you're the only svn ark user that I actually know of; have you tested the service menus? | 15:30 |
apachelogger | not recently | 15:31 |
apachelogger | hm | 15:32 |
apachelogger | metellius: I guess you could ask for feedback at amarok-neon@googlegroups.com | 15:32 |
* apachelogger noticed there are a lot of kde-nightly packages users subscribed as well ;-) | 15:32 | |
metellius | ok | 15:33 |
Riddell | item->setIcon(KIcon("system-suspend")); | 15:33 |
Riddell | item->setData(i18n("Suspend to RAM"), Kickoff::SubTitleRole); | 15:33 |
Riddell | apachelogger: seems right there | 15:34 |
apachelogger | hm | 15:34 |
apachelogger | weird | 15:34 |
apachelogger | Riddell: I was more thinking about suspend to ram | 15:35 |
apachelogger | + item->setIcon(KIcon("system-suspend-hibernate")); | 15:35 |
apachelogger | + item->setData(i18n("Pause without logging out"),Kickoff::SubTitleRole); | 15:35 |
* apachelogger is wondering why he does have no standby option | 15:35 | |
apachelogger | all solids fault | 15:36 |
apachelogger | Riddell: well, just forget about it for now | 15:36 |
Tm_T | apachelogger: what's our fix for bluez api change? | 15:40 |
apachelogger | I am not sure we have one yet, though I have been told someone works on updating solid-bluez | 15:41 |
Tm_T | ah, splendid | 15:43 |
Tm_T | nice mess indeedio | 15:43 |
apachelogger | vorian: you are working on bug 24330 ? | 15:43 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 24330 in kdeutils "CIFS mount blocks suspend/hibernate" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24330 | 15:43 |
apachelogger | vorian: and bug 22175 ? | 15:44 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 22175 in kdeutils "Simple bug in kcm_kcmlirc + patch (hang after Add action click)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22175 | 15:44 |
davmor2 | Riddell: Finish. Flash (Gnash/Flashnon-free or swf plugin) with Konq doesn't want to work. Katapult needs removing. Couldn't connect to my samba share any which way I tried. | 15:51 |
Tm_T | apachelogger: remind me, was this bluez api change told in kubuntu-devel ml or similar? just checking facts | 15:53 |
apachelogger | Tm_T: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2008-October/thread.html | 15:54 |
apachelogger | bluez thread | 15:54 |
Tm_T | ah, thanks son | 15:54 |
Tm_T | I'm in the middle of an hussle | 15:54 |
apachelogger | Tm_T: how so? | 16:09 |
Tm_T | apachelogger: married, kid is coming, lots of stuff going on in overall | 16:09 |
apachelogger | *nod* | 16:09 |
Tm_T | also upgraded to intrepid | 16:10 |
apachelogger | uh | 16:10 |
apachelogger | bad idea :P | 16:10 |
Tm_T | how so, son? | 16:10 |
apachelogger | all broken | 16:11 |
apachelogger | getting broken ever day I think | 16:11 |
apachelogger | Riddell, JontheEchidna, ScottK2: pleas test ark https://edge.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+archive | 16:11 |
Tm_T | how so, son? | 16:12 |
apachelogger | ubuntu doesn't like us aynymore :( | 16:12 |
Tm_T | it has been liking? | 16:13 |
apachelogger | :P | 16:14 |
apachelogger | Riddell: does the patches directory in kde4libs have any use? | 16:16 |
Riddell | apachelogger: debian/patches/ ? | 16:17 |
apachelogger | Riddell: kde4libs-4.1.2/patches | 16:17 |
Riddell | apachelogger: no, that'll be me trying to use quilt and failing :) | 16:17 |
apachelogger | ah :) | 16:17 |
* apachelogger should write a tutorial about it | 16:18 | |
* JontheEchidna tests | 16:18 | |
JontheEchidna | Ha, I already have apachelogger's ppa | 16:19 |
lokpest | hmm, I upgraded My Dell Inspiron 6400 from Gutsy to Hardy the other day, pressing the "mediadirect"-button (that in gutsy poped up amarok) now makes all the mediabuttons funktioanlity to crash | 16:19 |
JontheEchidna | lokpest: support questions should go to #kubuntu ;-) | 16:20 |
lokpest | any idea? whats the program/deamon/package handeling that called? | 16:20 |
JontheEchidna | KMilo I think | 16:21 |
lokpest | JontheEchidna: oh.. asked there yesterday and no answerm thought you might atleas knew where to look | 16:21 |
lokpest | will check out KMilo then... | 16:21 |
apachelogger | Riddell: any changes for kde4libs which need uploading? | 16:31 |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: needs to dep on libcups2-dev instead of libcupsys2-dev | 16:33 |
apachelogger | didn't you do that already? | 16:33 |
JontheEchidna | that got superseded or something | 16:33 |
apachelogger | -(~/src/deb/libs/kde4libs-4.1.2:$)-> grep -r -i 'cups' debian/changelog | 16:34 |
apachelogger | * Transition from libcupsys2 to libcups2 (lp: #279345): | 16:34 |
apachelogger | + debian/control: Replace libcupsys2-dev with libcups2-dev. | 16:34 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: it is in the package | 16:34 |
JontheEchidna | oh, good then. :] | 16:34 |
apachelogger | everything else doesn't matter | 16:34 |
Riddell | apachelogger: not from me | 16:35 |
apachelogger | ok | 16:35 |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: diff.gz's don't work for me | 16:39 |
apachelogger | hm | 16:39 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: did you restart los arkos? | 16:40 |
JontheEchidna | yes, I even did a killall ark to make sure | 16:40 |
apachelogger | hum | 16:40 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: are you sure you got the right package version? | 16:42 |
JontheEchidna | jonathan@jonathan-desktop:~/ubuntu/adept$ apt-cache policy ark | 16:42 |
JontheEchidna | ark: | 16:42 |
JontheEchidna | Installed: 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu4~ppa1 | 16:42 |
apachelogger | hm | 16:42 |
apachelogger | oh | 16:42 |
* apachelogger prolly forgot the build-dep | 16:43 | |
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asfak | are we going to have servicemenu like root action or extract&compress as default. ? | 17:30 |
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bobesponja | is sound broken with intrepid? | 19:29 |
bobesponja | I get sound with gstreamer only but the mic is not working, with xine I get neither input nor output | 19:30 |
apachelogger | \sh: git + quilt is just sweet ... qgit shows 0.3.0.1 to 0.3.0.2, I pick the changes I want, view their patch, copy the patch to a file and quilt import that file | 19:37 |
apachelogger | that would be a perfect candidate for scripting :D | 19:37 |
Riddell | bobesponja: works for me | 19:43 |
bobesponja | Riddell: not working here :/ | 19:43 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: this time ark should be working ;-) | 19:52 |
JontheEchidna | hehe | 19:53 |
Xand3r | apachelogger: i am now in a good mode, i am updating my pbuilder,. maybe i package something in some hours^^ | 19:57 |
Xand3r | uff i think i hav eforgotten the most | 19:58 |
apachelogger | Xand3r: that sounds like you are asking for work :P | 19:58 |
Xand3r | apachelogger: not now, you know my internet, updating needs time, much time | 19:58 |
apachelogger | true | 19:59 |
* apachelogger should upgrade his connection to 8mbit | 19:59 | |
apachelogger | that comes with 1mbit up IIRC :D | 19:59 |
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apachelogger | JontheEchidna: does it work? | 20:02 |
JontheEchidna | dunno, I was afk for a few minutes and forgot to start the update before I left, so it's still updating, hehe | 20:02 |
JontheEchidna | and kde4libs is quite large so it'd still be downloading anyway | 20:03 |
apachelogger | oh my | 20:04 |
* apachelogger compiles qgit4 meanwhile | 20:04 | |
apachelogger | I am wondering why we still ship the qt3 version | 20:05 |
JontheEchidna | omg, xulrunner updates too | 20:07 |
JontheEchidna | and firefox | 20:07 |
apachelogger | mhh | 20:07 |
apachelogger | qt 4 version is fancy | 20:07 |
apachelogger | <3 | 20:07 |
bobesponja | it looks like there is a bug for my sound issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/277339 | 20:14 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 277339 in linux "No sound (HDA Intel Sigmatel STAC9200) Intrepid Beta" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 20:14 |
sebas | I'm trying to build kdebindings from trunk/, is there an easy way to get SIP >= 4.6.7 | 20:42 |
sebas | Standard in hardy is 4.6.3 | 20:42 |
sebas | I mean 4.7.6 and 4.7.3 | 20:42 |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: oh, diff.gz works now btw | 21:03 |
Tm_T | apachelogger: wakey wakey | 21:05 |
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_Sime | sebas: are you seeing a build error with kdebindings from trunk? | 21:23 |
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Riddell | 21:12 < sebas> Right now, cmake wants to install into /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PyKDE4 | 21:26 |
Riddell | I want things in /home/kdedev/kde to not bugger up my system | 21:26 |
Riddell | _Sime: is what he said | 21:26 |
Riddell | 21:13 < sebas> But I'll be away for 4 days, I can get Simon over here and then we fix things until things are fixed | 21:27 |
Riddell | _Sime: so I guess that's you told :) | 21:27 |
_Sime | python 2.6 supports a site-packages dir in your home directory. earlier versions don't. | 21:28 |
_Sime | to get everything working out of svn you need to build and install your own private python. (PITA) | 21:28 |
_Sime | and then install sip and pyqt (quite easy). | 21:28 |
Riddell | hmm, that sounds like more hassle than I'd expect | 21:30 |
Riddell | _Sime: did you see the tutorial I put up? | 21:30 |
Riddell | _Sime: oh and did you upgrade to intrepid? | 21:30 |
_Sime | Riddell: I saw that you put a tutorial up; haven't read it. (will do) | 21:31 |
Riddell | _Sime: well I doubt you'll learn very much :) | 21:31 |
_Sime | Riddell: yes I did upgrade. Only hitch was the xorg i810 => intel thing wasn't automatic. maybe I had touched my xorg.conf. | 21:32 |
sebas | Ah, sime online in fact :) | 21:32 |
_Sime | Riddell: I've got a copy of "Rapid GUI programming with Python and Qt" here. I've learnt stuff from it. ;) | 21:32 |
_Sime | sebas: we should meet up sometime once you get back after "unplugging". | 21:33 |
sebas | _Sime: yup | 21:33 |
sebas | 24th, maybe? | 21:34 |
_Sime | sebas: are you keen to try out some plasma stuff? | 21:34 |
Riddell | apachelogger: media devices in amarok are not very smooth, I could make a package with kded_mediamanager from kde 3, and it wants to use kdeeject for umounting when I guess mount would work | 21:34 |
sebas | I'll have to ask Kim if social life is kicking in that day, but I guess not | 21:34 |
_Sime | sebas: 24th => friday? | 21:34 |
sebas | _Sime: yes, yes | 21:34 |
sebas | C++ is annoying | 21:34 |
_Sime | sebas: sounds good. I've got this week free. | 21:34 |
sebas | Or better, I've got some ideas for plasmoids that are relatively easy, but not worth doing in C++ IMO | 21:35 |
sebas | ow, good. So it'll be smooth once I return? :-) | 21:35 |
_Sime | I haven't spent too much time lately with it, But I saw the soft freeze coming. ;) | 21:35 |
_Sime | I need to figure out why python dataengines aren't being picked up by plasma | 21:36 |
sebas | Ah, dataengines as well | 21:36 |
sebas | Intrepid has python 2.6? | 21:37 |
sebas | (So upgrading to Intrepid will solve all my problems) | 21:37 |
Riddell | sebas: no | 21:37 |
_Sime | nope | 21:37 |
Riddell | but it has python 3 | 21:37 |
sebas | Guess it'll be symlinking then | 21:37 |
Riddell | why go for half measures? :) | 21:37 |
sebas | Heh, point taken. | 21:38 |
_Sime | I reckon I''ve hit all of the hard problems with plasma already, so data engines shouldn't be hard to get working. | 21:38 |
_Sime | the code is mostly done, plasma just doesn't see them. | 21:38 |
sebas | Worst case, we don't care about dataengine | 21:40 |
sebas | Applets and *much* more important | 21:40 |
sebas | But better have them working as well, right | 21:40 |
Riddell | are there python krunners? | 21:41 |
_Sime | no, not yet at least. | 21:42 |
* a|wen has been playing around with inkscape: http://awen.dk/artwork/kubuntu-810/kubuntu-810-ibex.png | 22:33 | |
Xand3r | good morning^^ | 22:37 |
Xand3r | a|wen: nice work | 22:37 |
Xand3r | apachelogger: are you there? | 22:39 |
a|wen | Xand3r: thx :) | 22:40 |
Riddell | a|wen: hey, that's really good | 22:42 |
a|wen | thx a lot Riddell | 22:43 |
a|wen | if anybody has some ideas for improvement, i'm open for those :) | 22:44 |
Xand3r | apachelogger: if you are ther i need realy easy work cause i have packaged the last time for a half year | 22:44 |
JontheEchidna | Xand3r: mainly we're fixing bugs at this stage, but on the 19th we're gonna package KDE 4.2 alpha1 :] | 23:03 |
_gunni_ | JontheEchidna: Really? Thought i have to wait till january, but that would be really great, cause i am so impatient | 23:06 |
JontheEchidna | Yeah. Last time we didn't have KDE 4.1 alpha packages because we didn't have enough packagers at the time, but this time around we should be well prepared | 23:07 |
* _gunni_ bounces happy through his room ... boing boing boing boing | 23:08 | |
JontheEchidna | But for now the Kubuntu ninjas are on batholidays | 23:08 |
JontheEchidna | Ha, in 16 pt font "KDE TechBase has a problem" | 23:09 |
JontheEchidna | they should up that to 32 for the lulz | 23:09 |
Xand3r | JontheEchidna: ah, good to know | 23:11 |
Xand3r | i will talk with apachelogger if there is work i can help with | 23:12 |
Xand3r | good night guys | 23:12 |
Xand3r | c ya | 23:12 |
a|wen | night Xand3r | 23:12 |
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