[00:04] Good eveining folks! [00:06] will Hardy keep getting kde4 updates for a while after intrepid? [00:11] claydoh: unlikely [00:12] that would mean creating packages for 3 series [00:12] apachelogger: ppa build time is cheap, though [00:12] apachelogger: won't the packages (sources) be pretty similar? [00:12] not the package creation [00:12] Hobbsee: for jaunty and intrepid [00:12] not for hardy [00:12] ah, right [00:16] will there be be updates at least through Intredid, before jaunty? [00:16] or is it likely to end much sooner? [00:17] inquiring forum users want to know :) [00:18] speaking of forum users, I tried pointing some people here who want to have kde3x in intrepid [00:18] a ppa repo would sound like a good project for them to try [00:19] as opposed to crabbing or staying with hardy [00:23] I have one user who want the most current kernel, the latest xorg, , drivers et al but wants to run kde3 [00:40] that would be non-trivial [00:42] Riddell: but they don't see it that way unfortunately [01:04] claydoh: well, they can try ;-) [01:04] how does this read? http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Languages/Python/PyKDE_WebKit_Tutorial [01:05] apachelogger: my point exactly :) Having someone publish his own kde3 for itrepid (that *removes* kde4) worries me [01:06] well, you can't stop them anyway ;-) [01:06] we probably could help with getting KDE 3 into usr/lib/kde3, like KDE 4 was in hardy [01:06] apachelogger: I am trying to politely steer people to ask questions, maybe join the community more than just complain on a forum [01:07] apachelogger: my thought as well [01:07] from the point of we-did-it-once-and-know-how-to-fix-issues [01:07] apachelogger: exactly :) [01:08] but I get tired of it all now [01:08] I must be a kde4 fanboi [01:09] ^_^ [01:10] Riddell: you should make screenshots without the redering glitches in the bottom right corner [01:11] * claydoh sighs and goes bck to the forums for a bit [01:12] Riddell: good read so far [03:16] Riddell: bug 203331, latest comment has a much better patch [03:16] Launchpad bug 203331 in adept "Recommend that users launch Adept with kdesudo" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203331 [03:19] It works quite well here ;-) [03:20] Also attached to the upstream bug report [03:28] yay, finally back home! [04:00] * JontheEchidna goes to bed [04:20] nixternal, you here still? [04:20] physically yes, mentally no [04:20] nixternal, what if the question shouldn't require too much of a though process for some people? [04:20] go for it [04:21] so how are you supposed to receive a complex type in QTDbus stuff? Like a dict that had a string and variant? [04:21] I thought QMap would do the trick [04:22] but it doesn't, and i'm lost at what you are supposed to do then [04:22] (I thought i heard murmors of you messing with qt-dbus stuff before) [04:23] I don't think I have messed with qt dbus stuff [04:23] oh. [04:23] you could check out #qt I think it is [04:23] yeah i guess i'll have to [04:23] is this python stuff? [04:23] no, i wish [04:23] you using pyqt or c++? [04:23] c++ [04:23] it's kdelibs stuff [04:23] er kdebase-workspace stuff better yet [04:23] k, I can't see my screen nor did I see the QMap stuff :) [04:24] the api docs don't help out much? [04:24] well the prospects for this bluetooth stuff are not looking up, i've hit tons of these standstills this weekend [04:24] they confuse me [04:25] what's up with the bluetooth stuff? [04:25] it doesn't work in intrepid [04:25] due to the other changes that were made on the stack [04:25] hrmm, I swore I tested it last week and it worked [04:25] but I can't remember if that was before or after I upgraded to intrepid [04:25] well I installed KDE on friday on intrepid [04:26] and it's definitely broke [04:26] there are TONS of API changes [04:26] I just realized my bluetooth logo isn't in the system tray [04:26] which is what i've been trying to work on, since upstream kde folk don't have it as a priority right now [04:26] what are you working on kbluetooth stuff for anyways? [04:27] because apparently i'm the only one in ubuntu-land that understands what changes in this bluetooth 3.x -> 4.x api [04:27] ya, honestly I don't see bluetooth lasting forever, kind of like firewire :) [04:27] well i'll put a few more hours towards it this week, but the diff is growing to 2500 lines now, and i'm running into these difficulties along the way [04:28] i'll pass my diff to upstream for some input if i'm at least on the right path i guess [04:28] groovy [04:28] http://doc.trolltech.com/4.3/qdbustypesystem.html [04:29] that's what gets me confused on this stuff, but i'll push on in #qt [04:30] oh ya dude, I do remember looking at that stuff, but that was like 2 years ago [04:30] hi nixternal [04:30] when qt4 was built by hand for us here [04:30] How was Ohio? [04:30] howdy txwikinger2 === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger [04:30] txwikinger2: it rocked...thought I am hoping a) video doesn't makes it way to youtube, and pictures don't make there way to the internet [04:31] I made a complete full out of my self last night at the after-party [04:31] :D [04:31] and started a new UDS tradition that will kick off thanks to jono [04:31] What would that be? [04:31] a Dance Off [04:31] ROFL [04:32] Well.. if you have ever again problems with Jono.. ask him for the duck [04:32] last night it was Kubuntu vs. Foresight vs. Fedora vs. Arch vs Linux For Arm [04:32] a dance off? oh noes. [04:32] Foresight won only because of what he did, and it should have been illegal [04:32] I hope it was line dancing :D [04:32] I was winning the thing hands down and then he stripped [04:33] a fat guy who takes his shirt off and twirls it can't be beaten [04:33] Well.. sounds like LRL then [04:34] I am monitoring flickr and youtube hoping they don't get posted [04:35] a jono dance off? This could get interesting [04:35] nixternal: are you coming to UDS? [04:36] Hobbsee: yes [04:36] I heard you are as well [04:36] * Hobbsee is [04:36] rock on [04:36] * Hobbsee will not be dancing, though [04:36] oh yes you will! [04:36] it will be me and Riddell vs. a thousand GNOMErz then [04:37] hah [04:37] * Hobbsee can't dance :P [04:37] Nixternal.. line dance? [04:37] no line dancing, you just gotta go all out and hurt yourself type of dancing [04:38] * Hobbsee would prefer *not* to be broken [04:38] hey, maybe this time people won't try to break me! [04:38] hehe [04:38] note to general public: Hobbsee has small wrists. You should not twist them. [04:38] advertising this; isn't that just encouraging it? [04:39] or at least, if you do, only do it gently, and not hard enough to smash them. Else Hobbsee *will* smash you, and keep smashing you wherever she finds to smash, until you stop [04:39] superm1: i hope not - i'd prefer not to have to visit the medical center. [04:39] Hobbsee, yeah i wouldn't recommend it unless you have decent American insurance ;) [04:40] Hobbsee: I got your back, anyone twists, I will smash um for ya :) [04:40] nixternal: thanks :) [04:40] Well. nixternal.. get all those GNOMErz to break their wrists, then KDE will rock even more [04:40] superm1: i'll have travel insurance - hope that counts [04:40] no, I think we need to do a mosh pit...last night jono, the michigan loco, and I were in a mosh pit...it was awesome [04:40] so we need to mosh [04:40] * txwikinger is tired from thanks giving meals [04:40] haha [04:41] * Hobbsee --> uni [04:41] and tomorrow there is more of it [04:41] txwikinger: besides, i don't contribute to gnome much. [04:41] No you Hobbsee [04:43] +t [04:43] * txwikinger is searching a weather widget for KDE4 [05:50] i recommend these two svg wallpapers [05:50] for the next or next-to-next version of kubuntu: [05:51] 1. http://kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/83789-kwallpaper.svg [05:51] 2. http://kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/25027-time.svg.tar.gz [05:52] they look very perfect and enduring [05:52] durable [05:52] err, ok [05:53] what? you're still surpised? :) [05:58] no, not really [09:25] showoff: my kde4 desktop. http://i34.tinypic.com/294nf3p.png === tonio is now known as Tonio_ [10:10] hmm I don't seem to get ccmake with cmake, is this normal? [10:13] wepiha: it's in the cmake package in intrepid [10:17] Riddell: I have the cmake_2.6.0-4ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1_i386 package installled. [10:17] in 8.04 [10:26] wepiha: indeed it's not there, how strange that's the same version as in intrepid which does have it [10:28] mm, no it's not [10:30] Riddell: should I be worried? [10:30] wepiha: ah, you want cmake_2.6.0-4ubuntu1~hardy1 from hardy-backports [10:36] bug 224461 [10:36] Launchpad bug 224461 in kdebase-workspace "Kubuntu do not show date and time in the correct format" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/224461 [10:36] the usr dood is THE confuser [10:37] apachelogger: that should fix itself when/if we get language-packs [10:37] yeah there are a couple of bugs which are most likely related to that [10:44] Riddell: okay thanks that has helped [10:46] apachelogger: wee will have amarok topic on gnome.asia summit this weekend [10:53] freeflying: how so? [10:54] apachelogger: a gsoc student will have a topic on upcoming gnome.asia summit this weekend http://www.gnome.asia [10:54] Riddell: I there an easy way to do an upgrade from Kubuntu hardy to Kubuntu intrepid [10:55] s/I/Is [10:55] davmor2: wajig dist-upgrade (dunno if you have to manually edit sources.list first) [10:55] freeflying: cool :) [10:55] davmor2: unsupported method btw [10:55] davmor2: kubuntu.org [10:57] apachelogger: Ta thought there must be a way :) [10:58] davmor2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades/Kubuntu [10:58] yes ta Riddell [11:21] hi [11:21] is gnash actually used on kde? [11:21] e.g. in hardy [11:33] asac: how do you mean? if people install it, then it is [11:39] Riddell: does mozilla-plugin-gnash work in konqueror? [11:41] asac: interesting question, let me try [11:42] Riddell: thanks [11:43] its nsapi plugin ... not sure how good the legacy layer for konqueror is ... or whether its just a specific hack for adobe flash [11:48] asac: no it doesn't seem to work [11:51] Riddell: ok. i uploaded a snapshot of gnash to ~gnash ppa [11:51] Riddell: i will test that then ;) [11:52] Riddell: did that nsapi plugin install go into new package [11:52] ? [11:53] anyway ... i will try with the latest here. thanks [11:55] asac: go into which new package? [12:14] Riddell: on my upgrade I noticed something weird hitting Katapult and typing in konq and hitting enter brings up KDEInit could not launch '/usr/lib/kde4/bin/kfmclient'. [12:32] davmor2: if you launch apps during an upgrade there is a large chance they will be broken [12:33] Riddell: this is after rebooting once the upgrade has finished [12:36] hmm [12:37] davmor2: see bug 184337 [12:37] Launchpad bug 184337 in kde4libs "KDEInit could not launch XXXX" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184337 [12:38] davmor2: do you still have /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kfmclient ? [12:39] good morning [12:40] Riddell: no /bin/ folder [12:42] I wonder why it's looking in /usr/lib/kde4/bin/ then [12:43] davmor2: do you have $KDEDIRS set? or anything about /usr/lib/kde4/bin/ in $LD_LIBRARY_PATH or $PATH [12:46] Riddell: the end of path says : No such file or directory [12:48] $KDEDIRS doesn't display anything nor does $LD_LIBRARY_PATH [12:52] Guys what is the command that shows all the settings? [12:53] env shows all the environment variables [12:54] that's the one ta [12:57] Riddell: nothing showing up there that points to /usr/share/kde4/bin [12:57] davmor2: grep /usr/lib/kde4/bin/ ~/.kde * -r [13:01] one thing i don't feel happy with [13:01] about kdm [13:01] when the screen is locked [13:01] whole bunch of /home/user/.kde/socket-user-desktop/..... : No such device or address [13:01] and i typed any key to start to enter the password [13:01] if i don't act quickly, the password input box is to disappear anytime soon [13:01] i feel a panic about this [13:02] i want it to stay there at least 5 minutes [13:02] so i can type my password at a slow speed [13:02] currently i must enter the password in a hurry [13:02] imagine if you're in a slow mood [13:02] and you're forced to do something very quickly [13:02] that hurts [13:03] yao_ziyuan: report a bug on bugs.kde.org [13:03] davmor2: dunno, I can't get katapult to do anything, maybe we should just remove it from the archive [13:04] krunner (alt-f2) is the way to go [13:04] Riddell: pass just letting you know :) [13:04] Riddell: yeah that works :) [13:05] davmor2: otherwise upgrade was ok? [13:06] Riddell: can i set a new idle time for the password window to disappear [13:06] yao_ziyuan: if you find the relevant place in the code [13:06] Riddell: seems to be I'm still working through all the apps so I can ping you when I finish :) [13:06] davmor2: upgrading from hardy KDE 3 or 4? [13:07] from the default hardy kde3 [13:07] davmor2: if you launch adept it should pop up the kdesudo dialogue for your password, check that it launches adept after that [13:09] Riddell: Yeah seems fine [13:10] davmor2: great [13:10] tpying in flash shows up everything I expect to see so doesn't seem to be an issue :) [13:12] Riddell: would you happen to know if the "Star Ratings" for applications in Adept are related to popcorn? [13:12] JontheEchidna: yes it should be [13:12] ok, thanks [13:12] JontheEchidna: grep Pop /usr/share/app-install/desktop/zim.desktop [13:13] do we still have that in adept 3? [13:17] Riddell: so would the world fall appart when gnash wouldnt support kde? [13:17] Riddell: they only have kde3 support [13:18] for 0.8.4 [13:18] now i dont know what to do [13:18] asac: no that's ok, it's a natural consequence of changing to a major new version that some apps won't yet be ported [13:18] though i doubt that sticking to 0.8.2 makes any sense at all (should be equally broken for kde4) [13:19] Riddell: ok sorry for that. i tried hard and tried the bleeding edge kde4 branch. but that just has issues and doesnt work at all either :( [13:19] asac: thanks for trying, do you know who's working on the kde 4 branch? [13:21] Riddell: yes gnash folks. its just that they didnt make it for the 0.8.4 release (they have aligned their release cycle to ours) [13:22] Riddell: they resurrected things in the lats few weeks for kde4, but now decided that this will be first thing for 0.8.5 [13:22] Riddell: We don't have popcorn stuffs for Adept3. There is a wishlist filed upstream though. [13:24] asac: how very nice of them. as I say I'm fine with dropping it for intrepid since I can't see a sensible way to get it working and some loss is inevitable in the move to KDE 4 (it's why the release is called intrepid) [13:38] Riddell: yes. i will keep the packages empty. so in case someone has it installed will automatically get the bits when they upgrade [13:38] depending on how close to 0.8.4 they finish their kde work we might consider to send the patch through -proposed [14:00] Riddell: btw, did you see my updated patch I posted in the bug? [14:01] Is it better? At the least, it works for me, but I'm not that amazing with C++ [14:24] apachelogger: commited readonly gz support to trunk now. [14:24] for akr [14:24] ark [14:36] JontheEchidna: no I don't think I did [14:41] Riddell: if you find time, it's in the latest comment of bug 203331 [14:41] Launchpad bug 203331 in adept "Recommend that users launch Adept with kdesudo" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203331 [15:13] woohoo [15:13] * apachelogger hugs metellius [15:18] http://aplg.kollide.net/screencasts/ark-gz.ogg [15:19] ScottK2, JontheEchidna, Riddell: ^ [15:20] a question: tar (and possibley other formats) allow same filename several times [15:20] how should the view actually handle that? showing the same file twice? [15:21] it kind of breaks the filename+path = unique id pattern [15:21] in KDE 3 it did show them [15:22] otherwise we would have never noticed that kdevelop creates crappy tarballs by adding every file in admin/ twice ;-) [15:23] ah [15:24] i still breaks everything though [15:24] apachelogger: ooh? how did you get that to happen? [15:24] Riddell: metellius implemented readonly support in trunk :D [15:25] uploading to my ppa shortly [15:27] apachelogger: I'm going to commit our ksmserver/plasma logout patch to trunk [15:28] Riddell: the icon for supsend to ram is wrong though [15:29] Riddell: should be system-suspend not system-suspend-hibernate [15:30] apachelogger: since you're the only svn ark user that I actually know of; have you tested the service menus? [15:31] not recently [15:32] hm [15:32] metellius: I guess you could ask for feedback at amarok-neon@googlegroups.com [15:32] * apachelogger noticed there are a lot of kde-nightly packages users subscribed as well ;-) [15:33] ok [15:33] item->setIcon(KIcon("system-suspend")); [15:33] item->setData(i18n("Suspend to RAM"), Kickoff::SubTitleRole); [15:34] apachelogger: seems right there [15:34] hm [15:34] weird [15:35] Riddell: I was more thinking about suspend to ram [15:35] + item->setIcon(KIcon("system-suspend-hibernate")); [15:35] + item->setData(i18n("Pause without logging out"),Kickoff::SubTitleRole); [15:35] * apachelogger is wondering why he does have no standby option [15:36] all solids fault [15:36] Riddell: well, just forget about it for now [15:40] apachelogger: what's our fix for bluez api change? [15:41] I am not sure we have one yet, though I have been told someone works on updating solid-bluez [15:43] ah, splendid [15:43] nice mess indeedio [15:43] vorian: you are working on bug 24330 ? [15:43] Launchpad bug 24330 in kdeutils "CIFS mount blocks suspend/hibernate" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24330 [15:44] vorian: and bug 22175 ? [15:44] Launchpad bug 22175 in kdeutils "Simple bug in kcm_kcmlirc + patch (hang after Add action click)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22175 [15:51] Riddell: Finish. Flash (Gnash/Flashnon-free or swf plugin) with Konq doesn't want to work. Katapult needs removing. Couldn't connect to my samba share any which way I tried. [15:53] apachelogger: remind me, was this bluez api change told in kubuntu-devel ml or similar? just checking facts [15:54] Tm_T: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2008-October/thread.html [15:54] bluez thread [15:54] ah, thanks son [15:54] I'm in the middle of an hussle [16:09] Tm_T: how so? [16:09] apachelogger: married, kid is coming, lots of stuff going on in overall [16:09] *nod* [16:10] also upgraded to intrepid [16:10] uh [16:10] bad idea :P [16:10] how so, son? [16:11] all broken [16:11] getting broken ever day I think [16:11] Riddell, JontheEchidna, ScottK2: pleas test ark https://edge.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+archive [16:12] how so, son? [16:12] ubuntu doesn't like us aynymore :( [16:13] it has been liking? [16:14] :P [16:16] Riddell: does the patches directory in kde4libs have any use? [16:17] apachelogger: debian/patches/ ? [16:17] Riddell: kde4libs-4.1.2/patches [16:17] apachelogger: no, that'll be me trying to use quilt and failing :) [16:17] ah :) [16:18] * apachelogger should write a tutorial about it [16:18] * JontheEchidna tests [16:19] Ha, I already have apachelogger's ppa [16:19] hmm, I upgraded My Dell Inspiron 6400 from Gutsy to Hardy the other day, pressing the "mediadirect"-button (that in gutsy poped up amarok) now makes all the mediabuttons funktioanlity to crash [16:20] lokpest: support questions should go to #kubuntu ;-) [16:20] any idea? whats the program/deamon/package handeling that called? [16:21] KMilo I think [16:21] JontheEchidna: oh.. asked there yesterday and no answerm thought you might atleas knew where to look [16:21] will check out KMilo then... [16:31] Riddell: any changes for kde4libs which need uploading? [16:33] apachelogger: needs to dep on libcups2-dev instead of libcupsys2-dev [16:33] didn't you do that already? [16:33] that got superseded or something [16:34] -(~/src/deb/libs/kde4libs-4.1.2:$)-> grep -r -i 'cups' debian/changelog [16:34] * Transition from libcupsys2 to libcups2 (lp: #279345): [16:34] + debian/control: Replace libcupsys2-dev with libcups2-dev. [16:34] JontheEchidna: it is in the package [16:34] oh, good then. :] [16:34] everything else doesn't matter [16:35] apachelogger: not from me [16:35] ok [16:39] apachelogger: diff.gz's don't work for me [16:39] hm [16:40] JontheEchidna: did you restart los arkos? [16:40] yes, I even did a killall ark to make sure [16:40] hum [16:42] JontheEchidna: are you sure you got the right package version? [16:42] jonathan@jonathan-desktop:~/ubuntu/adept$ apt-cache policy ark [16:42] ark: [16:42] Installed: 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu4~ppa1 [16:42] hm [16:42] oh [16:43] * apachelogger prolly forgot the build-dep === smarter_ is now known as smarter [17:30] are we going to have servicemenu like root action or extract&compress as default. ? === txwikinger is now known as Guest90923 === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger [19:29] is sound broken with intrepid? [19:30] I get sound with gstreamer only but the mic is not working, with xine I get neither input nor output [19:37] \sh: git + quilt is just sweet ... qgit shows 0.3.0.1 to 0.3.0.2, I pick the changes I want, view their patch, copy the patch to a file and quilt import that file [19:37] that would be a perfect candidate for scripting :D [19:43] bobesponja: works for me [19:43] Riddell: not working here :/ [19:52] JontheEchidna: this time ark should be working ;-) [19:53] hehe [19:57] apachelogger: i am now in a good mode, i am updating my pbuilder,. maybe i package something in some hours^^ [19:58] uff i think i hav eforgotten the most [19:58] Xand3r: that sounds like you are asking for work :P [19:58] apachelogger: not now, you know my internet, updating needs time, much time [19:59] true [19:59] * apachelogger should upgrade his connection to 8mbit [19:59] that comes with 1mbit up IIRC :D === ScottK2 is now known as ScottK [20:02] JontheEchidna: does it work? [20:02] dunno, I was afk for a few minutes and forgot to start the update before I left, so it's still updating, hehe [20:03] and kde4libs is quite large so it'd still be downloading anyway [20:04] oh my [20:04] * apachelogger compiles qgit4 meanwhile [20:05] I am wondering why we still ship the qt3 version [20:07] omg, xulrunner updates too [20:07] and firefox [20:07] mhh [20:07] qt 4 version is fancy [20:07] <3 [20:14] it looks like there is a bug for my sound issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/277339 [20:14] Launchpad bug 277339 in linux "No sound (HDA Intel Sigmatel STAC9200) Intrepid Beta" [Undecided,Incomplete] [20:42] I'm trying to build kdebindings from trunk/, is there an easy way to get SIP >= 4.6.7 [20:42] Standard in hardy is 4.6.3 [20:42] I mean 4.7.6 and 4.7.3 [21:03] apachelogger: oh, diff.gz works now btw [21:05] apachelogger: wakey wakey === emma_ is now known as emma [21:23] <_Sime> sebas: are you seeing a build error with kdebindings from trunk? === coreymon is now known as coreymon77 [21:26] 21:12 < sebas> Right now, cmake wants to install into /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PyKDE4 [21:26] I want things in /home/kdedev/kde to not bugger up my system [21:26] _Sime: is what he said [21:27] 21:13 < sebas> But I'll be away for 4 days, I can get Simon over here and then we fix things until things are fixed [21:27] _Sime: so I guess that's you told :) [21:28] <_Sime> python 2.6 supports a site-packages dir in your home directory. earlier versions don't. [21:28] <_Sime> to get everything working out of svn you need to build and install your own private python. (PITA) [21:28] <_Sime> and then install sip and pyqt (quite easy). [21:30] hmm, that sounds like more hassle than I'd expect [21:30] _Sime: did you see the tutorial I put up? [21:30] _Sime: oh and did you upgrade to intrepid? [21:31] <_Sime> Riddell: I saw that you put a tutorial up; haven't read it. (will do) [21:31] _Sime: well I doubt you'll learn very much :) [21:32] <_Sime> Riddell: yes I did upgrade. Only hitch was the xorg i810 => intel thing wasn't automatic. maybe I had touched my xorg.conf. [21:32] Ah, sime online in fact :) [21:32] <_Sime> Riddell: I've got a copy of "Rapid GUI programming with Python and Qt" here. I've learnt stuff from it. ;) [21:33] <_Sime> sebas: we should meet up sometime once you get back after "unplugging". [21:33] _Sime: yup [21:34] 24th, maybe? [21:34] <_Sime> sebas: are you keen to try out some plasma stuff? [21:34] apachelogger: media devices in amarok are not very smooth, I could make a package with kded_mediamanager from kde 3, and it wants to use kdeeject for umounting when I guess mount would work [21:34] I'll have to ask Kim if social life is kicking in that day, but I guess not [21:34] <_Sime> sebas: 24th => friday? [21:34] _Sime: yes, yes [21:34] C++ is annoying [21:34] <_Sime> sebas: sounds good. I've got this week free. [21:35] Or better, I've got some ideas for plasmoids that are relatively easy, but not worth doing in C++ IMO [21:35] ow, good. So it'll be smooth once I return? :-) [21:35] <_Sime> I haven't spent too much time lately with it, But I saw the soft freeze coming. ;) [21:36] <_Sime> I need to figure out why python dataengines aren't being picked up by plasma [21:36] Ah, dataengines as well [21:37] Intrepid has python 2.6? [21:37] (So upgrading to Intrepid will solve all my problems) [21:37]