[03:31] <NewHelpr> hello everyone
[07:18] <jianfei> after 15 yrs of seeing windows boot screens, i like the look of text booting up
[08:23] <joumetal> bug 231130
[13:22] <kwwii> Cimi: the firefox patch will not make it into intrepid, I just talked to asac about it
[13:23] <kwwii> I guess firefox will not allow the patch upstream until 3.1 and if we change anything we cannot call it firefox anymore
[13:23]  * kwwii heads out for a late lunch...bbl
[14:25] <Cimi> kwwii, why not for intrepid?
[15:46] <carciofo> tut mir leid leute
[15:46] <carciofo> schlecht geeignet für artwork
[15:46] <carciofo> siehe sound problem
[15:49] <Cimi> carciofo, this is an international channel
[17:00] <kwwii> carciofo: warum? und wieso sprechen wir Deutsch? We should speak english here
[17:00] <kwwii> Cimi: as I mentioned, we cannot simply add patches without upstream approval
[17:00] <Cimi> kwwii, ?
[17:01] <Cimi> firefox should allow you to patch???
[17:01] <kwwii> Cimi: apparently so
[17:01] <Cimi> what the hell, this is open source
[17:01] <Cimi> damn firefox
[17:01] <Cimi> fucking firefox
[17:01] <kwwii> yeah, but then they want us to rename it, I think
[17:01] <Cimi> kwwii, I understand
[17:01] <kwwii> to be honest, I am not 100% sure of the reason, I just asked and that was what I was told
[17:02] <Cimi> though we will have a broken murrine and clearlooks themes with firefox
[17:02] <Cimi> cause they both implement that feature
[17:06] <kwwii> Cimi: how will that break things?
[17:06] <Cimi> kwwii, both clearlooks and murrine are not compatible with the old firefox toolbars
[17:09] <kwwii> Cimi: that really sucks then...it means we will have to use older versions of murrine and clearlooks, I guess
[17:09] <kwwii> I'll have to look into this more closely
[17:10] <Cimi> kwwii, do you have bugs with clearlooks 2.16.0 ?
[17:11] <Cimi> oh yes, there are
[17:11] <Cimi> just tested
[17:12] <Cimi> kwwii, you can: update murrine and add a patch to your package
[17:12] <Cimi> or
[17:12] <Cimi> update murrine and blame fucking mozilla's software
[17:12] <kwwii> ;-)
[17:12] <kwwii> believe me, I already had a lot of work because of mozilla polixy
[17:13] <Cimi> yeah I believe you
[17:13] <kwwii> and then a lot of it got ignored because they are a huge company and nobody knows who is in charge of what
[17:13] <Cimi> I'm just astonished about mozilla
[17:13] <kwwii> to be honest, I do not think they give a crap about linux at all
[17:32] <Cimi> kwwii, it is the policy
[18:16] <tretle_> the sooner epiphany webkit gets stable enough the better