| persia | StevenK, evand: The changes for lpia == i686 are in ubiquity, and they are for a dependency on grub : no relation to grub-installer. They will be included in the upload (already in trunk) | 05:26 |
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| StevenK | Ah, kay | 05:28 |
| CIA-52 | ubiquity: evand * r2892 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/components/summary.py): | 06:12 |
| CIA-52 | ubiquity: If ubiquity is installing from a disk, such as a USB drive, then default | 06:12 |
| CIA-52 | ubiquity: to writing grub to the disk that /boot or / is to be written to, as (hd0) | 06:12 |
| CIA-52 | ubiquity: will most likely be the installation medium (LP: #282037). | 06:12 |
| StevenK | evand \o/ | 06:12 |
| * evand still has a bad feeling in his stomach over the problem not having a correct solution. | 06:15 | |
| evand | but as Colin notes, this appears to be the best option of the bunch. | 06:15 |
| StevenK | Dear Q1. Download language packs quicker. kthxbye | 06:15 |
| evand | haha | 06:15 |
| evand | Dear Q1, appear on my desk. kthxbi. | 06:15 |
| StevenK | Haha | 06:16 |
| StevenK | Will a photo help? :_) | 06:16 |
| evand | haha, probably not | 06:16 |
| persia | evand, You don't want a Q1 : it's the least useful keyboard ever invented. | 06:16 |
| StevenK | Agreed. | 06:16 |
| StevenK | If you have to type more than four characters, you want to drop kick the thing through a wall or two | 06:17 |
| evand | I don't know, there's a Dell XPS sitting in front of me. | 06:17 |
| evand | My hands are not nearly massive enough to reach all of its keys. | 06:17 |
| evand | haha | 06:17 |
| persia | evand, moving one's arms is easier than shaving ones fingers into toothpicks. | 06:17 |
| evand | hahaha, noted | 06:18 |
| * TheMuso got to type on an EEE PC 10 inch and 7 inch last weekend. Both keyboards would give me massive cramps if I had to use them long term. | 06:18 | |
| * StevenK digs up an photo | 06:18 | |
| StevenK | evand: http://www.gottabemobile.com/content/binary/WindowsLiveWriter/SamsungQ1UltraUMPCSpecsandPricing_813B/Q1UltraFrontBcopy2.jpg | 06:18 |
| evand | oww | 06:18 |
| persia | TheMuso, those are even actual keyboards. The Q1 has two little grids of tiny buttons on the upper left and right corners. | 06:19 |
| StevenK | evand: Hence the drop-kicking comment | 06:19 |
| evand | indeed! | 06:19 |
| TheMuso | persia: heh right, but I still think those EEE PC keybaords are too small for someone with big hands like myself. | 06:19 |
| StevenK | This is why I like my X40 keyboard | 06:20 |
| persia | The only problem with the X40 keyboard is that it gets fussy when you pour liquids in it. | 06:20 |
| superm1 | don't most keyboards? | 06:20 |
| persia | Not well-designed ones. | 06:21 |
| persia | It's a common use case, but only a few manufacturers put in flow channels to avoid circuit damage. | 06:21 |
| StevenK | I fail to see how pouring liquids onto a keyboard is a common use-case. | 06:27 |
| StevenK | An accidental one, sure. | 06:27 |
| persia | common use cases aren't always intentional :) | 06:27 |
| CIA-52 | ubiquity: evand * r2893 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog): | 06:34 |
| CIA-52 | ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: apt-setup | 06:34 |
| CIA-52 | ubiquity: 1:0.37ubuntu5, partman-auto 78ubuntu3, partman-base 121ubuntu7, | 06:34 |
| CIA-52 | ubiquity: partman-target 55ubuntu4, user-setup 1.20ubuntu9. | 06:34 |
| CIA-52 | ubiquity: evand * r2894 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.10.5 | 06:47 |
| CIA-52 | ubiquity: evand * r2895 ubiquity/ (configure configure.ac m4/intltool.m4): Bump to 1.10.6 | 06:49 |
| persia | Hrm? 1.10.5? 1.10.6? | 06:55 |
| * persia checks bzr | 06:55 | |
| persia | Oh. I get it. the aotuconf change is *after* release. Never mind. | 06:58 |
| StevenK | Bwahahaha! | 07:06 |
| persia | StevenK, ? | 07:12 |
| StevenK | http://people.ubuntu.com/~stevenk/IMG_2097.JPG | 07:13 |
| persia | StevenK, Erm. 640x480 isn't really a supported resolution :) | 07:14 |
| StevenK | :-) | 07:14 |
| persia | Now if someone was handy with glade... | 07:14 |
| evand | glade isn't going to fix the timezone map ;) | 07:15 |
| StevenK | And that's what I was chuckling over | 07:15 |
| StevenK | It's a mess | 07:16 |
| evand | haha | 07:16 |
| * StevenK pokes Ubiquity | 07:16 | |
| persia | evand, I was thinking to select timezone differently at 640x480. With luck, nobody wants to use that resolution for Jaunty. | 07:17 |
| StevenK | Yes, for Jaunty, you want to give them a dialog box that says "No timezone for you. Hook up an external monitor" :-P | 07:18 |
| evand | so I should note that we planned a (another) replacement timezone map for intrepid, but I ran out of time | 07:18 |
| StevenK | I think I broke Ubiquity | 07:18 |
| persia | Oh. Hrm. I was just hoping most people would just not use VGA. | 07:18 |
| persia | What did you do? | 07:18 |
| evand | It wouldn't solve the problem perfectly, but it would surely do better than the existing one at 640x480: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbiquityVisualRefresh | 07:19 |
| StevenK | Created a 1673MB / partition and hit Okay | 07:19 |
| persia | Right. And then it should ask you for username and password, unless you're using my casper branch. | 07:19 |
| evand | perhaps at a sufficiently low resolution we should just show a drop down, given that there isn't much room for a proper timezone picker in that screenshot | 07:20 |
| StevenK | But it just has a watch cursor and nothing in the Ubiquity window | 07:20 |
| StevenK | evand: There isn't much room for a dropdown either | 07:20 |
| persia | The partman page refresh is a bit odd, but it shouldn't do that. | 07:20 |
| evand | StevenK: check for a backtrace in /var/log/installer/debug ? | 07:20 |
| StevenK | TypeError: int argument required | 07:21 |
| persia | evand, Could do, but surely there's a way to have a map at that resolution : I know I have a world map applet on my Zaurus. | 07:21 |
| StevenK | In /usr/lib/ubiquity/ubiquity/segmented_bar.py | 07:21 |
| persia | Where? | 07:21 |
| evand | persia: I'd love a screenshot of that as an example for future work, if you think it was a good exercise in UI design | 07:21 |
| StevenK | layout.set_text('%d%%' % round(self.segments[i].percent * 100)) | 07:22 |
| persia | evand, I'll dig it up, but it's a full-screen map/clock applet, so perhaps not ideal for ubiquity unchanged. | 07:22 |
| evand | wow, clearly I'm an idiot | 07:22 |
| evand | persia: noted | 07:24 |
| CIA-52 | ubiquity: evand * r2896 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/segmented_bar.py): Fix a crash in segmented_bar by providing the expected integer type. | 07:29 |
| CIA-52 | ubiquity: evand * r2896 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/segmented_bar.py): Fix a crash in segmented_bar by providing the expected integer type. | 07:29 |
| evand | whoops | 07:29 |
| StevenK | Ah ha, so it was real bug :-) | 07:30 |
| * StevenK digs up the change | 07:33 | |
| StevenK | evand: How does one unlock stuff? | 07:43 |
| * StevenK checks if the old ubiquity even died | 07:43 | |
| persia | StevenK, You might also have to kill the partitioner. Personally, I usually find it easier to reboot to redo an install. | 07:46 |
| StevenK | Yeah, the old ubiquity wasn't dead | 07:46 |
| * StevenK is starting to dislike vesa | 07:46 | |
| evand | StevenK: sudo killall ubiquity parted_server; ps aux | grep part is what I generally use | 07:48 |
| evand | there's probably an easier way | 07:48 |
| * StevenK tries to break Ubiquity more | 07:52 | |
| StevenK | evand: So, I managed to break my key | 08:02 |
| StevenK | evand: You were attempting to hide the installer device in partman? | 08:03 |
| evand | StevenK: break your key? | 08:04 |
| evand | and yes, that was one of the changes that went into partman as part of the ubiquity upload | 08:05 |
| StevenK | Oh 1.10.5 | 08:05 |
| StevenK | evand: I was assuming /dev/sdb == the second disk in the device, not the install key. | 08:05 |
| StevenK | So I might have forcibly created a new parition table on it | 08:05 |
| evand | sdb should still be the second disk on that machine. The change just hides any device that has mounted partitions | 08:07 |
| persia | Shouldn't that include the device that provides /cdrom ? | 08:08 |
| persia | (unless StevenK was using an outdated ubiquity) | 08:09 |
| StevenK | I am | 08:09 |
| baali | does preseed file work with ubiquity?? | 11:09 |
| persia | baali, Yes. | 11:11 |
| baali | persia, yeah thanx just now got the link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbiquityAutomation | 11:11 |
| persia | baali, One thing not mentioned on that page is that preseeding also works in non-automatic mode, although it will still ask all the questions, it prepopulates the values with those from the preseed. | 11:13 |
| baali | aah | 11:14 |
| baali | here is mt problem http://pastebin.ca/1225784 any comments or directions | 11:51 |
| cjwatson | baali: none of the pkgsel/tasksel stuff works with ubiquity | 11:56 |
| cjwatson | baali: ubiquity copies the live filesystem on the CD | 11:56 |
| baali | cjwatson, so should i copy installer folder from DVD to cd and make changes accordingly | 11:57 |
| cjwatson | baali: if you're working with ubiquity, you probably ought to update the live filesystem with whatever extra packages you want; you should also update /casper/filesystem.manifest and /casper/filesystem.manifest-desktop on the CD | 11:57 |
| baali | or any other way out | 11:57 |
| baali | okay wait i guess i have a link for that | 11:57 |
| cjwatson | I'm pretty sure there's stuff on help.ubuntu.com/community for live CD customisation | 11:58 |
| baali | cjwatson, okay thank you will look into that | 12:00 |
| baali | is this one -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=688872 | 12:01 |
| cjwatson | baali: I was thinking of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization | 12:02 |
| sugarmice | Hi chaps - is this the right place to ask about customising the Live CD, or is there a better place? | 15:01 |
| cjwatson | well, I do need to reply to your mail :) sorry, it's been a very busy couple of weeks | 15:02 |
| sugarmice | I can imagine. :-) | 15:02 |
| cjwatson | for customising the boot screen it's a combination of gfxboot-theme-ubuntu and bits in the /isolinux/ directory on the CD | 15:03 |
| sugarmice | I'm having another go based on the beta of Ibex | 15:03 |
| cjwatson | what failures did you encounter when trying? | 15:03 |
| cjwatson | there's a bug about persistent which is release-critical and therefore we'll be sorting out before intrepid goes final | 15:03 |
| sugarmice | Aha - can you link me to the bug? I should keep an eye on that | 15:04 |
| cjwatson | sugarmice: I think http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy should answer your branding questions | 15:04 |
| cjwatson | https://launchpad.net/bugs/274076 | 15:05 |
| sugarmice | OK, so it looks as though I should be safe with calling my Live CD "Xubuntu, Wellcome Trust Remix" | 15:07 |
| cjwatson | yes, that sounds reasonable | 15:09 |
| sugarmice | But that I shouldn't add the Wellcome Trust's logo (which (a) is beyond my artistic abilities and (b) would imply a relationship that doesn't exist) | 15:10 |
| sugarmice | That only leaves me with one question, which is how to make modifications to the CD's boot menu, but I'm beginning to think I might not need to. Since persistent is problematic, I'm thinking I might recommend the sites use wubi, in cases where they don't want a permanent installation. | 15:13 |
| cjwatson | most textual alterations should be doable by changing isolinux.cfg and possibly gfxboot.cfg | 15:16 |
| sugarmice | Aha, yes, thank you. There's a text.cfg file. Great. That's exactly what I needed. | 15:23 |
| bdmurray | does bug 280900 sound familiar? | 16:27 |
| cjwatson | bdmurray: evand committed a fix for that earlier today | 16:29 |
| evand | bdmurray: already fixed in bzr, marking as such | 16:29 |
| bdmurray | alright, there are some possible duplicates - Is the traceback what I'd want to look for to confirm any duplicates? | 16:30 |
| cjwatson | look for this bit: | 16:30 |
| cjwatson | layout.set_text('%d%%' % round(self.segments[i].percent * 100)) | 16:30 |
| cjwatson | TypeError: int argument required | 16:30 |
| CIA-52 | ubiquity: evand * r2897 ubiquity/debian/changelog: Add LP bug reference | 16:30 |
| evand | thanks | 16:30 |
| baali | cjwatson, it worked thank you very much :) | 17:14 |
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| cjwatson | evand: is 282756 due to 280900? I wasn't quite sure if partman getting SIGPIPE was due to the crash | 18:01 |
| evand | I suspect so | 18:03 |
| === baali_ is now known as baali | ||
| cr3 | cjwatson: I'm using that source.list-setup file during the installation but it doesn't seem like its being apt-get update'd, so pkgsel can't find the given packages | 19:05 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: is that a bug or is there a place that would be appropriate to run the update? | 19:05 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: one workaround that comes to mind is not using pkgsel and relying on late_command instead | 19:10 |
| cr3 | that would be a shame to not leverage existing preseed functionality though | 19:10 |
| cjwatson | cr3: sources.list.apt-setup is where the real sources.list gets moved aside until it's actually needed | 19:20 |
| cjwatson | cr3: it's moved back to sources.list just before processing pkgsel/include | 19:20 |
| cjwatson | cr3: if it isn't working, can I see your preseed file and the log? | 19:20 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: it gets moved indeed, but does the apt database get updated as well? | 19:23 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: I don't have the syslog, I'm trying another run with the pkgsel packages in the late_command. but I'll try again and get you the requested information | 19:24 |
| cjwatson | cr3: yes, should do | 19:24 |
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| cjwatson | cr3: oh, are you adding new repositories by appending to sources.list.apt-setup? | 19:24 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: I have a udeb installed at early_command which creates sources.list.apt-setup with new repositories | 19:27 |
| cjwatson | cr3: OK, that would have been broken by my recent change to fix bug 267884. Any reason you aren't using the available apt-setup preseeding, such as apt-setup/local0/repository? | 19:32 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: aha, that's why my builds have stopped being tested from the 9th :) | 19:32 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: the reason is that I'm testing ISO images as integrally as possible using a network install and using the packages from the image on a local web server. If I also provide archive.ubuntu.com during the installation process, more recent packages might be installed which are no longer integral to the image. | 19:33 |
| cjwatson | cr3: you can override the use of archive.ubuntu.com though | 19:34 |
| cjwatson | I'd rather extend the available apt-setup preseeding to cover what you need if necessary than revert the fix for bug 267884 (which I consider important) | 19:34 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: how can I override? I mean, won't the installer pick the latest packages across all available repositories? | 19:35 |
| cjwatson | I mean that you can tell it to use a different mirror rather than archive.ubuntu.com | 19:36 |
| cjwatson | mirror/http/hostname and mirror/http/directory | 19:36 |
| cjwatson | I expect you'd need to set apt-setup/security_host and apt-setup/security_path too | 19:37 |
| ago_ | I have issues mounting dmloop devices, at first I get "no such file or directory" that is probably due to /dev/mapper/loop0 taking a bit to come up, but after that, mounting manually /dev/mapper/loop0 to /root results in: "unable to read superblock" | 20:21 |
| cjwatson | when I tested dm-loop here I got kernel BUG messages in kern.log; haven't tracked them down yet | 20:21 |
| cjwatson | suggests to me it's a bit buggered | 20:21 |
| ago_ | retrying sometimes succeed, but I have no explanation http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dmlosetupzd1.png | 20:21 |
| cjwatson | maybe I was driving it wrong though, this was just with a read-only iso9660 mount | 20:22 |
| ago_ | I can use good old mount -o loop with the file and it works well | 20:22 |
| evand | cjwatson: could you elaborate on why by-path would fix the /cdrom issues when installing from a USB device? I'm not sure I follow. | 20:33 |
| cjwatson | evand: I think by-path is a hardware identifier rather than a filesystem identifier | 20:35 |
| cjwatson | it was sort of a throwaway comment though, I didn't really expect us to do that for intrepid at this point ... | 20:35 |
| evand | ok | 20:35 |
| evand | I'll continue with the other approach then | 20:36 |
| CIA-52 | netcfg: cjwatson * r630 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog netcfg-common.c): | 20:43 |
| CIA-52 | netcfg: If we detect that the user entered a fully-qualified domain name as the | 20:43 |
| CIA-52 | netcfg: hostname, then remove the domain part from the hostname as well as | 20:43 |
| CIA-52 | netcfg: copying it to netcfg/get_domain (LP: #11019). | 20:43 |
| CIA-52 | netcfg: cjwatson * r631 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.44ubuntu4 | 20:49 |
| ago_ | if I use dmlosetup manually I get kernel panic... | 21:15 |
| cr3 | how can I set a proxy in apt-setup for my local? repositories? | 21:52 |
| cr3 | it seems like the one specified under mirror/http/proxy is not being copied to the installed system | 21:53 |
| cr3 | however, I see that the mirror/$protocol/proxy is being used for retrieving the key from the local? repositories | 22:03 |
| cr3 | and the installation guide only contains the following reference to proxy: /usr/share/doc/installation-guide-i386/en/apbs04.html:d-i mirror/http/proxy string | 22:04 |
| cr3 | actually, this might work. brb | 22:04 |
| cjwatson | mirror/http/proxy should be copied to /etc/apt/apt.conf in the target system | 22:05 |
| evand | Odd, my CIA commits for usb-creator are not showing up anymore. | 22:48 |
| * evand kicks CIA-52 | 22:48 | |
| CIA-52 | ow | 22:48 |
| cjwatson | evand: seemed to have fallen out of the filter rules, I don't know why. I've put it back now | 23:12 |
| cjwatson | the change history offers no hints | 23:12 |
| cjwatson | it was added, and then ... added again | 23:12 |
| evand | hah, fantastic. Thanks | 23:18 |
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