[00:27] ogra: is there some problem to use libpam-gnome-keyring in ubuntu-mobile [00:27] asking for the password all the time is rather annoying [00:27] no, there is a general problem with network manager [00:27] will be fixed for final, is known [00:28] great..do you know if it will use libpam or something else? [00:29] no idea, but it will only ask once as it did in hardy [00:29] i asked our NM maintainer last week, but we didnt find the time to go into details :) [00:30] so if i want it to *never* ask the gnome-keyring i need to install libpam [00:31] that should be installed by default anyway [00:31] at least in mobile where we use gdm [00:32] ah, right..yes i just looked and it is there [00:32] excellent ! [00:34] ;) [00:39] * ian_brasil should look before asking [09:00] * lool waves [09:00] ian_brasil_: You can't use libpam-gk without a password [10:07] Hey guys. I am currently working on the glom update... and I have noticed that there is a config flag for building on maemo. (it is the case by the default) I am wondering if I can disable it, or not (if it is useful for you...) [10:11] * lool grabs glom [10:11] I recall they added it in the stable releases [10:12] huats: It's either GNOME or maemo, the upstream build doesn't support both at the same time; if you enable maemo, it will create binaries which depend on maemo libs (e.g. libhildon) instead of libgnome [10:13] and it will link libglom statically and other oddnesses [10:13] huats: The only way this would be useful would be with a dual build, e.g. like in dates-hildon, or with hildon detection loaded at runtime (best but hardest) [10:14] ok [10:14] So answer is no, don't bother [10:14] thanks lool [10:14] :) [10:14] I don't even know what's using glom on maemo [10:16] so I will safely put a disable-maemo :) [10:19] huats: Is maemo turned on by default in newer gloms? [10:19] that was my guess... since when othing was specified, it was searching for the hildon libs... [10:20] huats: What's the glom version you're looking at? [10:29] lool: 1.7.3 [10:29] lool: but don't look at it [10:29] it was my fault... [10:29] I was misreading it :( [10:29] sorry for the trouble :( === asac_ is now known as asac === filipegarcia_ is now known as filipegarcia [15:42] ogra: do you have time ?? [15:43] ogra: ping [15:44] filipegarcia, You've gotten intrepid running on your device? [15:44] yes [15:44] actually no, persia [15:44] mobile [15:44] he has ubuntu-mobile daily [15:45] that's it [15:45] its almost the same, but we don't want to get it confused again [15:45] lol [15:45] that is intrepid, sorry, i'm wading deep in gnome bugs atm for ltsp [15:45] That's intrepid :) [15:46] filipegarcia, So, what's your screen doing now? Still rotated half way and calibrated wrong, or working better? [15:46] now doesn't do a thing… [15:47] I know mobile is intrepid, ogra. but maybe some thing inside is a bit diferent on mobile, and we don't the inside [15:47] its ubuntu-desktop with a different desktop layout and the touchscreen drivers added :) [15:47] under the hood its udentical [15:47] eheh ok [15:47] *identical [15:47] nice to know [15:48] mobile should work *better* for touchscreens, but otherwise be the same. [15:48] filipegarcia, DO you still have the .fdi file you created last time? [15:48] in filipegarcia case he doesn't even see it now [15:48] he might have it on the disk, he is running from Pendrive [15:48] is just a question of mounting the disk, and copy the file, I guess [15:49] right filipegarcia ? [15:49] I need to go help some users [15:49] brb [15:49] yes i have [15:49] Yeah. That'd be the first step, and then restarting stuff. Essentially, to go through the same process as last time, except this time it should work :) [15:50] i'm running live mode now but i guess i will install it first [15:51] filipegarcia, You don't need to reboot. If you add the file, just restart hal and gdm from a virtual console, and you should be fine. [15:53] too late :) [15:54] heh. Well, if you're willing to install, I shan't complain :) More testers means a better quality release. [15:59] just a kick question. Am i supposed to be able to close the virtual keyboard?? [16:00] because even in the normal version i always use the force quit button i have in the panel [16:03] I've never found a way to close it in -mobile. [16:03] ogra? [16:04] in mobile i had to put the force quit in the left panel so i can close it [16:04] you should be able to by just tapping on the CW icon in the panel again [16:04] (or clicking) [16:04] works here [16:06] IIRC on nokia devices this is hard coded to a hardware key (if mobile uses the same software of course) [16:06] it doesnt (yet= [16:06] ) [16:07] the current keycodes are just a port of the last release, i will be able to adjust the mapping for jaunty though [16:07] (it took me a while to get that upstream into hal-info, they would chop off my head if i change it now) [16:22] :) [16:22] it works now [16:24] with the rotate cw and the swapy [16:26] Excellent! [16:27] yay [16:28] can you paste the .fdi again, i lost it, i will include it in the next upload of evtouch so we have it in the default setup [16:28] shure [16:28] i'm just trying to calibrate again [16:28] to check if the values are the same [16:29] well, if it works the values should at least be close to right :) [16:38] the calibration toll doesn't show me the following screen [16:39] might be because in the beginning it says that is with the X in safe mode ?? [16:48] ogra: ping [16:48] yep [16:56] here is the .fdi http://paste.ubuntu.com/57053/ [16:56] i guess mobile won't work for me [16:56] i need the normal version of firefox [16:56] with a real fullscreen [16:57] install it then :) [16:58] there is no reason to not use normal firefx if you want it, all ubuntu archives are available in mobile through add/remove or synaptic [16:59] as i sadi before its identical to desktop, you can use/install all software desktop has as well [16:59] i see [17:00] (even in the live environment thats possible) [17:00] for some reason i'm unable to put the touch working in intrepid [17:00] non-mobile version [17:01] with the same file [17:02] ogra: but AFAIK mobile doesnt have a window decorator right? [17:02] so using it on a 17" LCD is just a waste [17:02] it uses devilspie to suppress decorations atm [17:02] what's that? [17:02] i might switch to maximus in jaunty though [17:03] its an addon to metacity that also works under compiz ... you can do funy stuff with it to windows, google it :) [17:13] ogra: you think i wont have any problems using mobile running apache and mysq as a POS?? [17:13] LOL filipegarcia [17:13] not more than usning ubuntu desktop for it :) [17:13] so you are just trying out mobile for the toutch screen support? [17:14] plus mobile is a bit lighter then Ubuntu-generic [17:14] maybe 'cause of the devilspie [17:14] or for have been coded to run on netbooks [17:14] it wasnt :) [17:14] it was coded for UMPCs :) [17:15] though many many people use it on netbooks :) [17:15] ohhh [17:15] those UMPCs are those that run on phones? [17:16] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-Mobile_PC [17:16] the samsung is a typical UMPC [17:18] what about fujitus netbooks? there is something.com/~jules/something patch for kernel and enables keyboard lightning... has it been added? [17:19] if someone filed a bug about it and pointed the kernel team to it [17:22] because compiling kernel with 800MHz isn't thing that I wnat to do so I don't know does it work with loox U 50 which is supposed to be U 1010 or 810 [17:22] :) === njpatel is now known as njpatel_away [18:08] Vuokko, best is to ask that in #ubuntu-kernel i guess [18:08] we dont really maintain our own kernel