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Technobabblequick question:  i have a myth setup with a wintv pvr 150 set up as the "mpeg2 pvr-x50" setting and it works fine and all.  i was just wondering if it was normal for it to have like a 3 second delay00:09
surgesame with mine00:20
surgei think it is00:20
surgedo you use a remote ?00:20
Technobabblewell, i have AT&T uverse, and i have a box that isn't working properly so i'll have to get a new box in there00:31
Technobabblebut yeah, i was00:32
Technobabblei'm guessing a blaster should be my next pickup?00:32
surgewhat00:36
surgei need to buy a blaster myself00:36
Technobabbleany of you guys recommend one in particular?  my pvr-150 doesn't have a blaster slot, so i'm guessing it'll have to be USB00:43
surgesame00:57
surgelet me know which one you find00:57
Jorophoseyou could always try a bluetooth remote; unless you're working with other stuff?00:58
JorophoseI know woot.com had a pretty sweet philips one a few days ago...00:59
Jorophoseoh and yeah it's like 4 hours later but your PVR-150 should have RCA audio-out, named as L/R audio :P00:59
surgeit does01:11
surgeyou there ?01:11
jmichelsenIv got a remote question, anyone care to take a shot?01:51
balzI have a dynamic IP assinged by my ISP and this obviously causes problems for mythweb.  Is there anything that can be done to consistently know what address to connect to?03:38
hadsDynamic DNS would be the obvious solution04:00
balzhads:  okay.  is it possible to use dynamic DNS even if my webserver is on a port other than 80?04:08
rhpot1991_laptopbalz: yes04:09
balzokay great. thanks04:09
rhpot1991_laptopyou just do :xxxx for the port you use in the url04:10
balzrhpot1991_laptop:  you mean in my web browser, or is that how i should define the address in dyndns?04:12
rhpot1991_laptopin the web browser04:12
balzgotcha. so i would type in "http://mydyndnsaddress.com:XXXX"04:13
rhpot1991_laptopyep04:15
rhpot1991_laptopthrow a /mythweb at the end and your goledn04:15
balzoh right. of course. awesome.  i just got a buddy of mine to check from his house, and apparently it works!04:24
balzwhen I click on the "video" tab in mythweb, I get a list of my  movies, but there is no metadata (including cover art).  If I click on the title, I get the following error page:  The requested URL /mythweb/data/video/Anchorman the Legend of Ron Burgundy.avi was not found on this server.04:27
balzwell the file name/path obviously changes for each movie, but it's always the same04:27
rhpot1991_laptopbalz: gotta go check the symlinks in mythweb04:28
balzhow do i do that?04:28
rhpot1991_laptop /var/www/mythweb/data04:29
rhpot1991_laptopmake sure they point where your videos are04:29
balzi get to /var/www and then the mythweb directory is a symlink... is that normal?04:29
balzit points to /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb04:30
rhpot1991_laptopyes04:31
balzok i found the culprit... /var/www./mythweb/data directs (through symlinks) to /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/data  and the symlink there points to the wrong directory04:32
balzbut for some reason i don't ahve the permission to change it. do i need root access?04:32
balzif so that'll be a pain bc i'm doing this through winscp... i'm not familiar with the commands for symlink creation/deletion04:33
rhpot1991_laptopya you need to do it as sudo04:40
rhpot1991_laptopman ln will tell you what to do04:40
rhpot1991_laptopln -s <target> <name>04:41
rhpot1991_laptopI think, but I always mix them up so check04:41
balzrhpot1991_laptop:  i put the appropriate symlinks there, but now the web page says I don't have permisson to access the files... is this because I used sudo to create the symlinks?04:48
rhpot1991_laptopbalz: verify that the symlink is pointing at them, you may need to tweak the permissions on the files04:51
balzthe links all point to the right place04:53
balzand the video files are all 0660 for permissions04:54
balzowner and group can read/write...04:54
rhpot1991_laptopmine are all 64404:55
balzwhat's the difference?04:57
MythbuntuGuest74I was running an older version of Mythtv and I just built a new box with mythbuntu.  I copied over all my .iso's of my dvd's.  Whey I try to play  them they are all messed up.  Any thoughts/suggestions?04:57
rhpot1991_laptopbalz: everyone has read permissions04:59
balzrhpot1991_laptop:  what's the command to set the drive and all its contents to 644?05:00
rhpot1991in the directory with them run: sudo chmod 644 *05:02
balzcool thanks05:03
balzrhpot1991:  i keep getting "missing operand after 644"05:09
balznvm i forgot the path to the drive05:11
balzrhpot1991:  now i don't have permission to access it at all... even from the tv05:17
balzi tried reverting to 0660 but no luck...05:17
MythbuntuGuest74I can't get mythbutu to recognize a dvd.  It won't play or rip it.05:39
balzMythbuntuGuest74.  Try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras and see if that helps05:44
MythbuntuGuest74Actually, in just digging, I think it may the the device name.  When I run ls -l | egrep dvd in the /dev dir I get dvd1 -> scd005:45
MythbuntuGuest74dosen't it expect /dev/dvd not /dev/dvd1 ?05:45
balzhmm. i'm not sure.  i'm really not too good with this05:45
balzbut that seems right05:45
MythbuntuGuest74I just created a sim link.  time to run downstairs and check :-)05:46
balzhaha oh good you know about symlinks? maybe you can save me, when you get a  minute ;-)05:47
hadsPermissions do different things to files than they do to directories. Directories will want the x bit set for your user to be able to access them.05:51
hadshttp://www.zzee.com/solutions/unix-permissions.shtml05:51
balzhads:  what do you mean by x bit?05:54
balzhads:  i managed to set the drive to 000, so all files/directories are readable and writeable by all, correct?05:55
hadsBy x bit I mean the execute permission05:55
balzooh okay05:55
MythbuntuGuest74The simlink fixed it (at least for ripping).  Then I found in the setup where I can change /dev/dvd to /dev/dvd1 :-)05:56
hadsThat page would be a good read.05:56
MythbuntuGuest74can't get play to work, but it's ripping and that is all I need for now05:56
balzhads:  yeah i'll have to dive into it...05:57
balzhads:  now i'm very very very confused... it says here that the digit 0 means deny all, but setting that drive to 000 fixed my problem.   my user can now create/delete files on that disk05:59
balzoh I guess i was using umask and not chmod?06:05
balzAnybody home?08:15
balzI have problems with mythweb:  when I click on a video title, I get a black page with "video is loading" in the middle.   The address bar shows that i've reached the correct file, but I never see the video? does it just take a long time to load?08:17
balzalso, I can't get my movie posters to show up... i checked the symlinks and they seem okay (although I really can't tell)... any thoughts?08:17
lir__hey09:33
lir__ough...09:43
lir__my X server has grown tired of me... it's S-Video output is connected to my TV which now only shows the NVidia logo, no desktop screen and the keyboard's leds are not active, as in, pressing the num lock, doesn't do anything, but if I press the CTRL+ALT+DEL it does reboot the system, meaning the signal does get cought09:45
lir__nm, got it10:07
lir__DPMS setting was set10:07
Foople1is there any USB analog capture device that can actually be made to work in mythbuntu?  For real?  Not just vaguely written guides that reference obsolete versions, have huge caveats, and are themselves listed in other guides that say the first guide doesn't work?15:55
jphillipFoople1 easiest way is to find something and look for info on the wiki, lots of devices work but most usb devices are going to require you to do some work yourself in 8.0416:02
jphillipI believe there should be some better support for some of them in 8.1016:02
jphillipthe wiki I am refering to is wiki.mythtv.org16:02
Foople1thanks jphillip I'll poke at it some more.  Do you happen to know offhand how to reset the resolution in X these days?  It's stuck on a resolution smaller than the configure box.  It's going through HDMI.  I believe it was using a higher resolution earlier and got confused (and stayed that way) after rebooting it without the TV on.16:07
jphillipFoople1 ctrl+alt+backspace will restart x, it will close all running apps though16:09
MythbuntuGuest22I just switched to Mythbuntu.  Everything works great but mplayer.  I can't seem to map lirc to allow the "menu" button on my report to go to a menu in mplayer.  With xine I could map the menu button to go the the dvd root menu.  I can press "m" on a keyboard, but it's not workign form the remote.16:15
foxbuntu_vmMythbuntuGuest22, you need to setup a map in your ~/.lirc/mplayer file16:16
Foople1it really likes this smaller resolution.  It definitely was larger to begin with, all the control panel stuff is cut off now.  Used to be there was a utility called something along the lines of 'xf86config' that one banged ones head against for hours to configure X.  I suspect there's a nice shiny configure app somewhere, but I can't find it or the screen isn't big enough to see it.  I can't even click accept on any dialogs because the 16:16
foxbuntu_vmMythbuntuGuest22, after you create the proper button map, you will need to restart lirc ( sudo /etc/init.d/lirc restart ) and mplayer if it is open in order for the changes to take effect16:19
foxbuntu_vmFoople1, what video card?16:19
Foople1it's a mac mini16:19
foxbuntu_vmoh16:20
foxbuntu_vmdo you know what video card its using?16:20
Foople1haha I'm trying to find out16:20
foxbuntu_vmlspci16:20
MythbuntuGuest22ah, ok.  it's the restart lirc I missued. I'll try that16:22
MythbuntuGuest22Is there any way to map it directly to the root menu of the dvd or is the best I can do to get that popup menu?16:22
foxbuntu_vmMythbuntuGuest22, there is prob a key in mplayer to go to the dvd top menu, I just dont know what it is16:23
MythbuntuGuest22ok, thnx. I've searched a lot of doc and have not been able to find it.16:24
Foople1it's an Intel GMA 950 on the apple site, a Intel 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express in lspci.16:24
foxbuntu_vmFoople1, hmm, you shouldnt have many issues with that card, however I would make sure the drivers are infact working: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel16:27
Foople1any idea what command tells it to take another look around?16:28
Foople1used to be you had to have a custom X server binary for each driver and everything had to be specified everywhere by hand, I'm just assuming it's easier now :)16:29
Foople1aha, it is much easier16:33
Foople1dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, reset X, works great16:33
Foople1good stuff.  As an added plus mythfrontend takes 10x longer to pre-scale images.16:33
Foople1too bad I can't watch TV16:34
Foople1I don't suppose anyone in here has actually used any USB analog capture devices with mythbuntu?16:38
Foople1most everything on the wiki isn't even made anymore16:39
jphillipFoople1 cause analog is dead16:44
jphillipthe hauppauge hybrid tuners should be supported in 8.10, until then you will need to get the correct drivers for them16:44
Foople1I have a Hauppauge WinTV-HVR 950Q16:45
Foople1I've been very careful with it and followed all the guides I could find to the letter, and to reward me it's keeping me from watching TV and rotting my brain.16:46
Foople1as I understand it to go digital I enter a confusing maze of tunnels most of which end in "it's encrypted and you can't watch it"16:47
Foople1money is no object, I just want this to work well when it's done.  I'm willing to buy anything smaller than a cable company.16:48
jphillipFoople1 unfortunately you are gonna run into encryption with most everything but analog16:51
Foople1and there's basically no way to use anything encrypted with mythtv is there?16:51
jphillipyou can, but you need to use a cable box to unencrypt it first16:58
jphillipso cable to the box, then out to your tuner16:59
Foople1is there some fancy way to make it change channels?  It just decodes one at a time right?16:59
jphillipFoople1 depends on what you have, most cable boxes will have firewire that you can use, or you can IR blast them16:59
jphillipsome things like directv boxes you can change via usb16:59
jphillipare we strictly talking SD here or HD as well?17:00
Foople1I believe my provider has some HD channels, my TV is HD, I just haven't bothered with all of it due to the encryption aspect.17:00
Foople1TiVo > more pixels17:01
jphillipwell for SD you should be able to just go from the cable box to your tuner, via svideo, composite or cable17:01
Foople1hdhomerun only works with unencrypted digital doesn't it?17:01
jphillipfor HD if youw ant to record something encrypted you will need the HDPVR which is still bleeding edge in linux17:01
jphillipFoople1 yes, only does unencrypted qam17:02
Foople1meh17:02
jphillipso essentially just your locals17:02
Foople1such a cool device with such limited use17:02
jphillipsuch a great device that just works is my opinion17:02
jphillipI do hdhomerun and then firewire for what channels I can get from the box17:02
jphillipgets me almost everything17:02
Foople1hmm firewire, you're having the cable box stream you data over firewire or ?17:03
jphillipyep17:04
Foople1interesting17:04
jphilliphttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Firewire17:04
jphillipwarning: its a gigantic headache17:04
jphillipwith firewire you can have your box entirely locked out, or just individual channels17:04
jphilliphttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79537817:05
jphillipis also very useful17:05
Foople1locked out?  It crashes the box, or firewire is inherently limited?17:06
Foople1how gigantic is the headache?  This current headache is pretty big.  Can't say how big as I still don't have it working.  It's a headache in progress.17:07
jphillipFoople1 locked as in the channel is encrypted and cannot be passed over the firewire17:24
jphillipit all depends on your cable company and what happens in your area17:24
jphillipFoople1 http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Recording_Digital_Cable17:36
Foople1thanks jphillip, very interesting info.  If (most) everything the box has is available over firewire, what is hdhomerun for?18:40
jphillipFoople1 lets you record clear qam, so you have uninterupted access to your ota channels19:06
jphillipdual tuner that just works for relitively cheap19:06
Foople1so primarily so you can record more than one thing at once?19:07
jphillipfirewire (sadly) is inheritly unstable due to the encryption schemes19:07
jphillipthe cable co doesn't want you using that they want you to rent their dvr instead19:08
Foople1my cable co doesn't even appear to have a plan that includes HD but no DVR19:08
Foople1when searching someone had a collection of scripts they said gave them 100% stability on firewire19:09
Foople1actually it was in that thread you linked19:11
Foople1"MythTV changes the channels with this. No matter the state of my firewire connection, this script achieves a connection and data transfer for clear channels 100% of the time:", about halfway down19:11
jphillip"for clear channels"19:12
Foople1nod19:12
jphilliponce you widdle the list of channels you can get down then it is reliable enough19:13
Foople1so what has to be done when it gets stuck?19:13
Foople1cool19:13
jphillipbut part of the problem is that the encryption randomly turns on and off19:13
jphillipI've seen shows that had no encryption then it flicked on for a commercial19:13
Foople1haha19:13
jphillipand if your box tries to initiate while the encryption is on it will fail to record19:13
jphillipI can't recort BBC america for that reason19:14
alexvdhello if I am still running 7.10.  IF I want to move to 8.04 all i have to do is a standard ubuntu dist upgrade?22:16
alexvdwill it keep my recording schedules, database, recordings, etc.22:16
jphillipalexvd its always a good idea to backup your db before upgrading22:26
jphillipyou should be able to just upgrade though22:27
alexvdjphillip: thanks do you run the script in mythtv or do you backup another way22:34
hadsmysqldump mythconverg > your_backup.sql22:47
hadsYou may need a -p and a -u in there.22:47
robert`My OSD (channel info at bottom) is shaky. Is there somewhere I can look to fix this?22:49
robert`Changing Interlaced to Progressive fixed it.22:56

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