[00:09] <Technobabble> quick question:  i have a myth setup with a wintv pvr 150 set up as the "mpeg2 pvr-x50" setting and it works fine and all.  i was just wondering if it was normal for it to have like a 3 second delay
[00:20] <surge> same with mine
[00:20] <surge> i think it is
[00:20] <surge> do you use a remote ?
[00:31] <Technobabble> well, i have AT&T uverse, and i have a box that isn't working properly so i'll have to get a new box in there
[00:32] <Technobabble> but yeah, i was
[00:32] <Technobabble> i'm guessing a blaster should be my next pickup?
[00:36] <surge> what
[00:36] <surge> i need to buy a blaster myself
[00:43] <Technobabble> any of you guys recommend one in particular?  my pvr-150 doesn't have a blaster slot, so i'm guessing it'll have to be USB
[00:57] <surge> same
[00:57] <surge> let me know which one you find
[00:58] <Jorophose> you could always try a bluetooth remote; unless you're working with other stuff?
[00:59] <Jorophose> I know woot.com had a pretty sweet philips one a few days ago...
[00:59] <Jorophose> oh and yeah it's like 4 hours later but your PVR-150 should have RCA audio-out, named as L/R audio :P
[01:11] <surge> it does
[01:11] <surge> you there ?
[01:51] <jmichelsen> Iv got a remote question, anyone care to take a shot?
[03:38] <balz> I have a dynamic IP assinged by my ISP and this obviously causes problems for mythweb.  Is there anything that can be done to consistently know what address to connect to?
[04:00] <hads> Dynamic DNS would be the obvious solution
[04:08] <balz> hads:  okay.  is it possible to use dynamic DNS even if my webserver is on a port other than 80?
[04:09] <rhpot1991_laptop> balz: yes
[04:09] <balz> okay great. thanks
[04:10] <rhpot1991_laptop> you just do :xxxx for the port you use in the url
[04:12] <balz> rhpot1991_laptop:  you mean in my web browser, or is that how i should define the address in dyndns?
[04:12] <rhpot1991_laptop> in the web browser
[04:13] <balz> gotcha. so i would type in "http://mydyndnsaddress.com:XXXX"
[04:15] <rhpot1991_laptop> yep
[04:15] <rhpot1991_laptop> throw a /mythweb at the end and your goledn
[04:24] <balz> oh right. of course. awesome.  i just got a buddy of mine to check from his house, and apparently it works!
[04:27] <balz> when I click on the "video" tab in mythweb, I get a list of my  movies, but there is no metadata (including cover art).  If I click on the title, I get the following error page:  The requested URL /mythweb/data/video/Anchorman the Legend of Ron Burgundy.avi was not found on this server.
[04:27] <balz> well the file name/path obviously changes for each movie, but it's always the same
[04:28] <rhpot1991_laptop> balz: gotta go check the symlinks in mythweb
[04:28] <balz> how do i do that?
[04:29] <rhpot1991_laptop>  /var/www/mythweb/data
[04:29] <rhpot1991_laptop> make sure they point where your videos are
[04:29] <balz> i get to /var/www and then the mythweb directory is a symlink... is that normal?
[04:30] <balz> it points to /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb
[04:31] <rhpot1991_laptop> yes
[04:32] <balz> ok i found the culprit... /var/www./mythweb/data directs (through symlinks) to /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/data  and the symlink there points to the wrong directory
[04:32] <balz> but for some reason i don't ahve the permission to change it. do i need root access?
[04:33] <balz> if so that'll be a pain bc i'm doing this through winscp... i'm not familiar with the commands for symlink creation/deletion
[04:40] <rhpot1991_laptop> ya you need to do it as sudo
[04:40] <rhpot1991_laptop> man ln will tell you what to do
[04:41] <rhpot1991_laptop> ln -s <target> <name>
[04:41] <rhpot1991_laptop> I think, but I always mix them up so check
[04:48] <balz> rhpot1991_laptop:  i put the appropriate symlinks there, but now the web page says I don't have permisson to access the files... is this because I used sudo to create the symlinks?
[04:51] <rhpot1991_laptop> balz: verify that the symlink is pointing at them, you may need to tweak the permissions on the files
[04:53] <balz> the links all point to the right place
[04:54] <balz> and the video files are all 0660 for permissions
[04:54] <balz> owner and group can read/write...
[04:55] <rhpot1991_laptop> mine are all 644
[04:57] <balz> what's the difference?
[04:57] <MythbuntuGuest74> I was running an older version of Mythtv and I just built a new box with mythbuntu.  I copied over all my .iso's of my dvd's.  Whey I try to play  them they are all messed up.  Any thoughts/suggestions?
[04:59] <rhpot1991_laptop> balz: everyone has read permissions
[05:00] <balz> rhpot1991_laptop:  what's the command to set the drive and all its contents to 644?
[05:02] <rhpot1991> in the directory with them run: sudo chmod 644 *
[05:03] <balz> cool thanks
[05:09] <balz> rhpot1991:  i keep getting "missing operand after 644"
[05:11] <balz> nvm i forgot the path to the drive
[05:17] <balz> rhpot1991:  now i don't have permission to access it at all... even from the tv
[05:17] <balz> i tried reverting to 0660 but no luck...
[05:39] <MythbuntuGuest74> I can't get mythbutu to recognize a dvd.  It won't play or rip it.
[05:44] <balz> MythbuntuGuest74.  Try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras and see if that helps
[05:45] <MythbuntuGuest74> Actually, in just digging, I think it may the the device name.  When I run ls -l | egrep dvd in the /dev dir I get dvd1 -> scd0
[05:45] <MythbuntuGuest74> dosen't it expect /dev/dvd not /dev/dvd1 ?
[05:45] <balz> hmm. i'm not sure.  i'm really not too good with this
[05:45] <balz> but that seems right
[05:46] <MythbuntuGuest74> I just created a sim link.  time to run downstairs and check :-)
[05:47] <balz> haha oh good you know about symlinks? maybe you can save me, when you get a  minute ;-)
[05:51] <hads> Permissions do different things to files than they do to directories. Directories will want the x bit set for your user to be able to access them.
[05:51] <hads> http://www.zzee.com/solutions/unix-permissions.shtml
[05:54] <balz> hads:  what do you mean by x bit?
[05:55] <balz> hads:  i managed to set the drive to 000, so all files/directories are readable and writeable by all, correct?
[05:55] <hads> By x bit I mean the execute permission
[05:55] <balz> ooh okay
[05:56] <MythbuntuGuest74> The simlink fixed it (at least for ripping).  Then I found in the setup where I can change /dev/dvd to /dev/dvd1 :-)
[05:56] <hads> That page would be a good read.
[05:56] <MythbuntuGuest74> can't get play to work, but it's ripping and that is all I need for now
[05:57] <balz> hads:  yeah i'll have to dive into it...
[05:59] <balz> hads:  now i'm very very very confused... it says here that the digit 0 means deny all, but setting that drive to 000 fixed my problem.   my user can now create/delete files on that disk
[06:05] <balz> oh I guess i was using umask and not chmod?
[08:15] <balz> Anybody home?
[08:17] <balz> I have problems with mythweb:  when I click on a video title, I get a black page with "video is loading" in the middle.   The address bar shows that i've reached the correct file, but I never see the video? does it just take a long time to load?
[08:17] <balz> also, I can't get my movie posters to show up... i checked the symlinks and they seem okay (although I really can't tell)... any thoughts?
[09:33] <lir__> hey
[09:43] <lir__> ough...
[09:45] <lir__> my X server has grown tired of me... it's S-Video output is connected to my TV which now only shows the NVidia logo, no desktop screen and the keyboard's leds are not active, as in, pressing the num lock, doesn't do anything, but if I press the CTRL+ALT+DEL it does reboot the system, meaning the signal does get cought
[10:07] <lir__> nm, got it
[10:07] <lir__> DPMS setting was set
[15:55] <Foople1> is there any USB analog capture device that can actually be made to work in mythbuntu?  For real?  Not just vaguely written guides that reference obsolete versions, have huge caveats, and are themselves listed in other guides that say the first guide doesn't work?
[16:02] <jphillip> Foople1 easiest way is to find something and look for info on the wiki, lots of devices work but most usb devices are going to require you to do some work yourself in 8.04
[16:02] <jphillip> I believe there should be some better support for some of them in 8.10
[16:02] <jphillip> the wiki I am refering to is wiki.mythtv.org
[16:07] <Foople1> thanks jphillip I'll poke at it some more.  Do you happen to know offhand how to reset the resolution in X these days?  It's stuck on a resolution smaller than the configure box.  It's going through HDMI.  I believe it was using a higher resolution earlier and got confused (and stayed that way) after rebooting it without the TV on.
[16:09] <jphillip> Foople1 ctrl+alt+backspace will restart x, it will close all running apps though
[16:15] <MythbuntuGuest22> I just switched to Mythbuntu.  Everything works great but mplayer.  I can't seem to map lirc to allow the "menu" button on my report to go to a menu in mplayer.  With xine I could map the menu button to go the the dvd root menu.  I can press "m" on a keyboard, but it's not workign form the remote.
[16:16] <foxbuntu_vm> MythbuntuGuest22, you need to setup a map in your ~/.lirc/mplayer file
[16:16] <Foople1> it really likes this smaller resolution.  It definitely was larger to begin with, all the control panel stuff is cut off now.  Used to be there was a utility called something along the lines of 'xf86config' that one banged ones head against for hours to configure X.  I suspect there's a nice shiny configure app somewhere, but I can't find it or the screen isn't big enough to see it.  I can't even click accept on any dialogs because the 
[16:19] <foxbuntu_vm> MythbuntuGuest22, after you create the proper button map, you will need to restart lirc ( sudo /etc/init.d/lirc restart ) and mplayer if it is open in order for the changes to take effect
[16:19] <foxbuntu_vm> Foople1, what video card?
[16:19] <Foople1> it's a mac mini
[16:20] <foxbuntu_vm> oh
[16:20] <foxbuntu_vm> do you know what video card its using?
[16:20] <Foople1> haha I'm trying to find out
[16:20] <foxbuntu_vm> lspci
[16:22] <MythbuntuGuest22> ah, ok.  it's the restart lirc I missued. I'll try that
[16:22] <MythbuntuGuest22> Is there any way to map it directly to the root menu of the dvd or is the best I can do to get that popup menu?
[16:23] <foxbuntu_vm> MythbuntuGuest22, there is prob a key in mplayer to go to the dvd top menu, I just dont know what it is
[16:24] <MythbuntuGuest22> ok, thnx. I've searched a lot of doc and have not been able to find it.
[16:24] <Foople1> it's an Intel GMA 950 on the apple site, a Intel 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express in lspci.
[16:27] <foxbuntu_vm> Foople1, hmm, you shouldnt have many issues with that card, however I would make sure the drivers are infact working: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[16:28] <Foople1> any idea what command tells it to take another look around?
[16:29] <Foople1> used to be you had to have a custom X server binary for each driver and everything had to be specified everywhere by hand, I'm just assuming it's easier now :)
[16:33] <Foople1> aha, it is much easier
[16:33] <Foople1> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, reset X, works great
[16:33] <Foople1> good stuff.  As an added plus mythfrontend takes 10x longer to pre-scale images.
[16:34] <Foople1> too bad I can't watch TV
[16:38] <Foople1> I don't suppose anyone in here has actually used any USB analog capture devices with mythbuntu?
[16:39] <Foople1> most everything on the wiki isn't even made anymore
[16:44] <jphillip> Foople1 cause analog is dead
[16:44] <jphillip> the hauppauge hybrid tuners should be supported in 8.10, until then you will need to get the correct drivers for them
[16:45] <Foople1> I have a Hauppauge WinTV-HVR 950Q
[16:46] <Foople1> I've been very careful with it and followed all the guides I could find to the letter, and to reward me it's keeping me from watching TV and rotting my brain.
[16:47] <Foople1> as I understand it to go digital I enter a confusing maze of tunnels most of which end in "it's encrypted and you can't watch it"
[16:48] <Foople1> money is no object, I just want this to work well when it's done.  I'm willing to buy anything smaller than a cable company.
[16:51] <jphillip> Foople1 unfortunately you are gonna run into encryption with most everything but analog
[16:51] <Foople1> and there's basically no way to use anything encrypted with mythtv is there?
[16:58] <jphillip> you can, but you need to use a cable box to unencrypt it first
[16:59] <jphillip> so cable to the box, then out to your tuner
[16:59] <Foople1> is there some fancy way to make it change channels?  It just decodes one at a time right?
[16:59] <jphillip> Foople1 depends on what you have, most cable boxes will have firewire that you can use, or you can IR blast them
[16:59] <jphillip> some things like directv boxes you can change via usb
[17:00] <jphillip> are we strictly talking SD here or HD as well?
[17:00] <Foople1> I believe my provider has some HD channels, my TV is HD, I just haven't bothered with all of it due to the encryption aspect.
[17:01] <Foople1> TiVo > more pixels
[17:01] <jphillip> well for SD you should be able to just go from the cable box to your tuner, via svideo, composite or cable
[17:01] <Foople1> hdhomerun only works with unencrypted digital doesn't it?
[17:01] <jphillip> for HD if youw ant to record something encrypted you will need the HDPVR which is still bleeding edge in linux
[17:02] <jphillip> Foople1 yes, only does unencrypted qam
[17:02] <Foople1> meh
[17:02] <jphillip> so essentially just your locals
[17:02] <Foople1> such a cool device with such limited use
[17:02] <jphillip> such a great device that just works is my opinion
[17:02] <jphillip> I do hdhomerun and then firewire for what channels I can get from the box
[17:02] <jphillip> gets me almost everything
[17:03] <Foople1> hmm firewire, you're having the cable box stream you data over firewire or ?
[17:04] <jphillip> yep
[17:04] <Foople1> interesting
[17:04] <jphillip> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Firewire
[17:04] <jphillip> warning: its a gigantic headache
[17:04] <jphillip> with firewire you can have your box entirely locked out, or just individual channels
[17:05] <jphillip> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=795378
[17:05] <jphillip> is also very useful
[17:06] <Foople1> locked out?  It crashes the box, or firewire is inherently limited?
[17:07] <Foople1> how gigantic is the headache?  This current headache is pretty big.  Can't say how big as I still don't have it working.  It's a headache in progress.
[17:24] <jphillip> Foople1 locked as in the channel is encrypted and cannot be passed over the firewire
[17:24] <jphillip> it all depends on your cable company and what happens in your area
[17:36] <jphillip> Foople1 http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Recording_Digital_Cable
[18:40] <Foople1> thanks jphillip, very interesting info.  If (most) everything the box has is available over firewire, what is hdhomerun for?
[19:06] <jphillip> Foople1 lets you record clear qam, so you have uninterupted access to your ota channels
[19:06] <jphillip> dual tuner that just works for relitively cheap
[19:07] <Foople1> so primarily so you can record more than one thing at once?
[19:07] <jphillip> firewire (sadly) is inheritly unstable due to the encryption schemes
[19:08] <jphillip> the cable co doesn't want you using that they want you to rent their dvr instead
[19:08] <Foople1> my cable co doesn't even appear to have a plan that includes HD but no DVR
[19:09] <Foople1> when searching someone had a collection of scripts they said gave them 100% stability on firewire
[19:11] <Foople1> actually it was in that thread you linked
[19:11] <Foople1> "MythTV changes the channels with this. No matter the state of my firewire connection, this script achieves a connection and data transfer for clear channels 100% of the time:", about halfway down
[19:12] <jphillip> "for clear channels"
[19:12] <Foople1> nod
[19:13] <jphillip> once you widdle the list of channels you can get down then it is reliable enough
[19:13] <Foople1> so what has to be done when it gets stuck?
[19:13] <Foople1> cool
[19:13] <jphillip> but part of the problem is that the encryption randomly turns on and off
[19:13] <jphillip> I've seen shows that had no encryption then it flicked on for a commercial
[19:13] <Foople1> haha
[19:13] <jphillip> and if your box tries to initiate while the encryption is on it will fail to record
[19:14] <jphillip> I can't recort BBC america for that reason
[22:16] <alexvd> hello if I am still running 7.10.  IF I want to move to 8.04 all i have to do is a standard ubuntu dist upgrade?
[22:16] <alexvd> will it keep my recording schedules, database, recordings, etc.
[22:26] <jphillip> alexvd its always a good idea to backup your db before upgrading
[22:27] <jphillip> you should be able to just upgrade though
[22:34] <alexvd> jphillip: thanks do you run the script in mythtv or do you backup another way
[22:47] <hads> mysqldump mythconverg > your_backup.sql
[22:47] <hads> You may need a -p and a -u in there.
[22:49] <robert`> My OSD (channel info at bottom) is shaky. Is there somewhere I can look to fix this?
[22:56] <robert`> Changing Interlaced to Progressive fixed it.