/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/10/13/#ubuntu-ops.txt

Myrttierrrr00:04
Myrttiwhat just happened there?00:04
Seeker`ompaul sploaded00:04
Myrttinini kids, don't take his ops away yet :-D00:17
* nalioth doesn't have any plans to00:22
Myrttigood00:23
MyrttiI think it needs to be discussed again in a few days00:23
Myrttiörrröörörör08:37
Garypretty08:37
Flannelis that what finnish dogs say?08:38
Garyare you calling Myrtti a finnish dog?08:38
Flannelof course not08:39
* Gary giggles08:39
Myrttino, it's what a finnish person with a sore throat might say08:39
jpdsPici: Thanks for replying to mdz and the others on ubuntu-devel.09:29
jpdsI would have done it myself but I no longer have a net connection. :(09:29
elkbuntujpds, eh? what happened?09:40
jussi01mrgh, who invented mornings...10:05
elkbuntuthe same killjoy who invented work.10:14
jussi01yeah...10:19
* Myrtti gives jussi01 a big huggle12:37
jussi01:)12:39
jussi01BTW, everyone please read my mail on the list...12:40
ikoniawhich list12:40
stdinikonia: ubuntu-irc@l.u.c12:41
ikoniaokey dokey12:41
ikoniajussi01: do you want feedback on the list ?12:48
jussi01ikonia: err, dont see why not, unless you really want it to remain private.12:48
ikonianot at all12:49
ikoniahappy to do that12:49
ikoniajust checking12:49
Myrtti♥ everyone13:14
ikoniaI think your nick is a bit off LjjjL 13:30
LjjjLikonia: heh, i'm just on the eee13:30
ikoniaoooh you have an eee13:31
LjjjLikonia: yes, i've surrendered to the temptation13:31
ikoniabe interested in your views on it after hearing elkbuntu 13:31
LjjjLbut my number one use case fails to work :( that is, staying connected while on the balcony smoking13:31
ikoniaelkbuntu's views I mean13:31
MyrttiI have to share this little piece of hilarity with you13:31
LjjjLikonia: elky has one too? meh, i didn't know that, everyone's got one...13:31
LjjjLMyrtti: MWAHAHA that's real funny13:32
Myrttisomeone is having his doctoral dissertation here in Tampere13:32
ikoniaLjjjL except me13:32
LjjjLikonia: what are her views anyway?13:32
elkbuntuhmm?13:32
ikoniaLjjjL ooh, she's here13:32
Myrttion the political science13:32
LjjjLelkbuntu: what are your views anyway?13:32
Myrttion the topic of...13:32
elkbuntuon what?13:32
MyrttiPower, Leadership, Doom and Hope in J. R. R. Tolkien's work The Lord of  the Rings or "Management by Sauron"13:33
LjjjLelkbuntu: the eee, which i didn't know you had13:33
Myrttihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/56997/13:33
elkbuntuLjjjL, it's ok, does what i need. 3G coverage is pretty decent in sydney13:33
LjjjLMyrtti: you have to understand that people just don't know what the heck to say on a thesis anymore13:33
LjjjLelkbuntu: you got one with built-in 3g, or the usb box?13:34
elkbuntuLjjjL, a huawei e220, the usb soap-on-a-rope13:34
LjjjLelkbuntu: right, they sell those here but they were never very appealing to me, they costed, like, more than buying an eeepc *and* such a dongle separately13:35
elkbuntuyeah. i got my eeepc as clearance stock13:36
elkbuntuand 70113:36
elkbuntuso no internal card13:36
=== _jason is now known as jrib
LjjjLikonia: anyway i've got a 901, what i can say so far is that the keyboard sucks (i'm thinking about sending it back under warranty, as once in a whhile i get false double-keypresses and that's annoying), and the fact you have two SSD drives, the fast/system one being only 4Gb, can probably be a bit restricting13:37
LjjjLalso, the default Xandros is really, really bad. aside from that though, it's nice.13:37
ikonianot the best review I've heard13:38
LjjjLelkbuntu: you don't happen to have the same issue with keys being registered twice? i know is it a "somewhat" widespread issue (as in, theere are forum postings about it)13:39
LjjjLikonia: well, on the other hand, few people care about the default Xandros, judgingg from the amount of the alternative distributions there are. as for the 2 drives, well you know that when you buy it13:39
LjjjLalthough i thought there would be a *little* more free space bby default on the 4Gb13:40
elkbuntuLjjjL, i've never noticed it, or it's been disguised as train 'noise'13:40
elkbuntuLjjjL, i wiped it and put ubuntu on it within an hour of getting it home13:40
elkbuntuthe xandros was just too ... um... retarded13:41
LjjjLelkbuntu: well then try to pay attention to it please, i do have this feeling it's a widespread issue but people just either think it's "normal" or assume it's them typing badly... while it's something that would deserve complaints13:41
LjjjLelkbuntu: you can see from a few of my very messages above thhat the issue is pretty much constant for me13:42
LjjjLincluding the one just above13:42
elkbuntuk, i'll try use it off the train some time when i clear space on this table13:43
LjjjLikonia: also honestly i'm starting to get the feeling (although this is a subjective/personal issue for sure) that the eee is a bit neither here nor there. they give it with a bag with no straps or anything, so you have to put it into another (most likely normal-laptop-sized) one, and it surely doesn't fit in your pocket. it's small, but not small enough you can stand on a subway train and use it13:45
LjjjLi was used to the Psion 5 and thought of this as a not-quite-the-same-thing-but-close replacement, but i don't thinnk it is one13:45
ikoniayes, the best of neither worlds, 13:45
ikoniaI thought that a bit13:45
LjjjLikonia: i do believe they have a well-deserved real market though, as (relatively) cheap full-blown computers that almost anyone can buy and use without taking up space. should be fine for my mother for instance, who is indeed thinking of getting one (although probably one of the 10" models, not necessarily an eee, since "small" is nice but there's no point for her in "tiny")13:47
ikoniaLjjjL agree on that13:47
LjjjLi've been wondering for years why nobody would make a cheap, small "computer for human beings", with old hardware that does its job, so i can't blame the ones who actually did try13:48
jribgames13:48
LjjjLjrib: what aout games?13:49
PiciYou sank my battleship!13:49
LjjjLPici: your battleship was crap to begin with13:49
LjjjLit would have sunk itself anyway13:49
PiciLjjjL: I know :(13:49
jriband people that don't know enough about what hardware they need will always just buy whatever is the most powerful thing they can afford13:49
jriband that's most people13:50
LjjjLjrib, i don't believe that's most people, our vision is distorted by the fact we mostly see people who are alraedy on the internet to begin with13:50
zirodayHey, GM-Cosmo_PW is doing strange things in #ubuntu13:50
LjjjLjrib: i'm pretty much convinced there's a lot of people who'd just like a better typewriter, an expedient way to play solitaire, and a huge encyclopedia always on their hands13:51
zirodayhowever not very often13:51
LjjjLziroday: i will check13:51
jribLjjjL: and youtube13:51
zirodayyay! thanks LjjjL, he gives someone something every half hour or so13:51
LjjjLziroday: might be a bot then. i only have the logs of the last thing he said, but i can access the rest, moment13:51
zirodayyes, it does look like a bot13:52
PiciI may not be around later, want me to forward here or just remove?13:52
zirodaythanks Myrtti 13:53
Picii.e: I won't be around to deal with it13:53
jribhas anyone tried to talk to GM-Cosmo_PW in pm?13:53
LjjjLziroday: yeah, that's most certtainly a bot13:54
Myrttiit is a bot13:54
LjjjLjrib: i haven't, but look at the pattern13:54
zirodayhave a great day!13:54
Myrttior an automated response13:54
Myrttieither way, it's muted now13:54
LjjjL(14:55:08) LjjjL: hello13:54
LjjjL(14:55:09) GM-Cosmo_PW: Auto-Reply: Hello LjjjL. Please leave your message (Don't just say "You there?" and expect a reply)13:54
HobbseeBanana Hammock IRC V.1.0 right then...13:55
Myrtti[15:55] <Myrtti> hello13:55
Myrtti[15:55] <GM-Cosmo_PW> Auto-Reply: Hello Myrtti. Please leave your message (Don't just  say "You there?" and expect a reply)13:55
PiciWeird.13:55
Myrttiyup13:55
jribyep13:55
Myrttiit's muted, and we'll see if we get a response13:55
Myrttithough13:55
Myrttimight as well remove it now too13:55
jribI told him to come here if he wasn't a bot13:56
LjjjLhe's in a few other channels, i'll join them13:56
jribLjjjL: tried something like an ipod touch for mobile computing?13:57
LjjjLjrib: i bought an s60 phone some time ago, although that was mostly to replace my broken mp3 player and phone... i did use it for irc and some browsing, but it doesn't have wifi so you only do so much without paying13:58
LjjjLjrib: but the real issue is that "mobile computing" for me means "typing" as the top priority13:58
LjjjLyou don't type on any of those things13:58
jribI'm trying to get the dvorak layout on mine :)  but yeah you're right that you don't want to type anything more than a couple of sentences on it13:59
LjjjLjrib: the Psion 5, aside from its being dated and therefore not having wifi or anything modern, was close to the perfect form factor. i could live with soemthing *slightly* bigger but with a more responsive keyboard (although the psion's is wonderful given its size!), but the eeepc is already on the too-big side14:00
LjjjLsomething that fits in a bigger pocket is right14:00
ikoniaLjjjL doesn't HP have a slightly bigger the psion 5 hand held out /14:02
LjjjLhi gary ;)14:02
ikonia?14:03
ikoniawhere is gary14:03
jribLjjjL: someone needs to create foldable LCD screens, then we can have computers that we unfold like a map14:03
Garyhey L lots of j's L14:03
GaryLjjjL: what was that bot doing in the channel?14:03
LjjjLikonia: i don't know. it used to, but that was about back in the psion's time (although that HP was quite wonderful in specs, color display with 2D acceleration, builtin modem...)14:03
LjjjLikonia: gary knows why i said that14:03
ikoniaoh14:03
ikoniaLjjjL: let me check HP, I'm sure they still had one14:03
LjjjLGary: using ACTION randomly with the pattern "/me gives ...", possibly in response to things people said14:04
* Gary stalky stalky14:04
LjjjLGary: i'd try perhaps mentioning its nickname in its presence14:04
ikoniaLjjjL: not so long ago we where being pushed to use them, so they must still be around14:04
LjjjLikonia: well, what model is that14:04
ikoniadon't know, looking at the website trynig to find it14:05
ikonialooks like a "flip" ipaq14:05
ikoniait was rubbish14:05
ikoniabut thats only because I didn't like it14:05
ikoniahttp://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF04a/215348-215348-64929-314903-3329748.html?jumpid=re_R295_prodexp/busproducts/computing-handheld/digitalmedia-GPS-PDA&psn=handhelds_and_calculators/handheld_pcs looks like this replaced it14:07
Myrttiexcuse me while I wail a bit, but I hate my piriformis bum.14:12
Myrttikthxbai14:12
LjjjLikonia: but this one has no keyboard...14:19
ikoniaLjjjL no, the old did, it had like a flip down/pull out one14:20
LjjjLikonia: flip down pull out... that must not be the one i had in mind. the one i had ini mind was a plain clamshell design, laptop-like14:20
ikoniaLjjjL nah, not what I was talking about14:21
ikoniaI know the psion you mean14:21
LjjjLikonia: well the psion has an even more complicated (and very prone to breakage, unfortunately) clamshell design14:22
ikoniaLjjjL I used ot have one14:22
LjjjLalso, the psion software can't be beaten. the HP i had in mind, of course, had Windows Bleah CE14:22
LjjjLikonia: you weren't the one who sold me the last one on ebay were you ;P14:22
LjjjL(just kidding, i bought it from italy)14:22
ikonia;)14:22
ikoniamine is still at my parents house14:23
LjjjLikonia: i have three. well, one is in pieces14:23
LjjjLikonia: the first one was given to me by a friend. i already knew about it from (very good) reviews on IT magazines, so i drooled14:23
LjjjLikonia: it was fun, besides... in theory it was his dad's psion, given by his office. at one point, he wanted it back, so my friend asked it back, and told his dad "so, if you can turn it on, you keep it, otherwise i give it back to lorenzo"14:24
LjjjLi had it back14:24
ikoniaha ha14:24
LjjjLikonia: then it broke, and i got another (an ericsson 218mc, which is just like a psion 5mx) for €250, in a store, just before they all went out of production. when that one broke, i got one for €45 on ebay14:25
LjjjLnow i'm not sure how much i'll still use it since i have the eee... but i'm starting to suspect i will14:26
ikoniaI recently tried moving to a blackberry, but sent it back as the email service on it was very poor14:28
* Myrtti weeps at http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2008/10/strange-knits-and-yarn-monsters.html14:31
LjjjLshit14:39
LjjjLi put an alkaline in the charger yesterday night14:39
ikoniajrib: careful with amanu he's miss-leading about what he tells you he's done/doing15:33
jribhe has a pretty broken install at this point: http://paste.ubuntu.com/57025/15:33
ikoniaI don't mean "careful" as in warning15:33
ikoniamore a case of make sure it's fact or you'll end up wasting time down the wrong path15:34
ikoniajrib: he's trying to copy his wubi install to a partition15:34
ikoniaI'm also %70 certain he's got 3rd party repo's in there but doesn't want to say he has15:34
jribI assumed he didn't have internet on the ubuntu partition, but looking back that may not be true15:34
ikoniajrib no, he's got it15:34
jribhrmm15:35
ikoniaand he's download 700+ meg of "application" that just don't add up15:35
ikoniaand he didn't have ubuntu installed (apart from wubi) now he does but he's done it without a CD as he sent it to his friend15:35
ikoniathere are a few thigs that don't add up15:35
ikoniawhen I first spoke to him he didn't have ubuntu installed and couldn't install it, hence why he wanted to copy wubi across, now he has a wubi install and an ubuntu install, but no ubuntu cd ??? but won't say how he installed it15:36
* ikonia offers jrib a medal15:56
ikoniamost patient help I've seen in #ubuntu for ages, kudos15:56
jrib:)15:57
* Myrtti gives ikonia a huggle15:59
Myrttiyou're my hero15:59
ikoniahuh ?16:02
ikoniathats sweet of you16:03
ikoniawhat have I done16:03
ikoniajrib: is the hero 16:03
Tm_Tjussi01: son, you're there?16:06
MyrttiTm_T: please smack Nafallo?16:21
NafalloMyrtti: see my followup.16:22
Tm_TMyrtti: hm?16:22
Tm_Twhat, where16:22
Myrtti*snif*16:22
Myrtti[18:18] < Myrtti> you couln't hack them anyway16:23
Myrtti[18:18] < Nafallo> hacking guinea pigs?16:23
Myrtti[18:18] < Nafallo> butcher's knife should do it.16:23
Nafallomeeh. off-topic in here.16:23
* Tm_T slaps Nafallo 16:23
Tm_TNafallo: never EVER make Myrtti sad again, or you will meet my wrath16:24
Myrttisee!16:24
Myrtti*sniffles*16:24
Myrttibut he said he was sorry though16:24
Tm_Tdoesn't help16:24
Nafalloyea. was a joke and I rather use the butcher's knife to protect them in all seriousness.16:24
ikoniaFYI: I've just muted bunny while I talk to him he's walked the line for a few days now17:27
Myrtti@btlogin17:49
Liv3dNasI'm not sure why, but I am banned from #ubuntu. How come?17:53
Myrttimeh17:56
Liv3dNashow well17:56
Liv3dNasgot to do a restart17:56
Myrtti*!?=GOD@* 17:57
Myrtti@bansearch #ubuntu *!?=GOD@* 17:57
ubottu(bansearch <nick|hostmask> [<channel>] [<sendlink>]) -- Search bans database for a ban on <nick|hostmask>, if <channel> is not given search all channel bans. If <sendlink> is given, and true, send a link to the bantracker log to you in a /msg.17:57
Myrtti@bansearch *!?=GOD@* #ubuntu17:57
ubottuMatch: *!?=GOD@* by ompaul in #ubuntu on Jul 18 2008 07:04:09 (ID: 2710)17:57
naliothdid someone bring a litterbox in here?18:05
pleia2nalioth! can you change some settings on #ubuntu-training for us?18:06
naliothpleia2: sure, why?18:06
pleia2we need it +t-s18:06
Myrttiikonia: bunnyto?18:09
naliothikonia: did you not look at the access list there?18:10
naliother, sorry ikonia 18:12
naliothpleia2: you are on the access list there18:13
pleia2I was trying to change the mode lock through chanserv18:14
naliothwell, it's done now18:14
pleia2thanks :)18:14
* Myrtti huggles nalioth 18:17
ubottuIn ubottu, anavarro said: the problem is that I am having a problem when I try to remove mysql18:56
ubottuIn ubottu, anavarro said: this is the terminal lines18:57
naliothubottu: tell anavarro about yourself18:58
LjLnalioth: that doesn't work anymore19:02
LjLyou need to use the > syntax19:02
MyrttiOH DEAR GOD19:02
MyrttiFOR GODS SAKE19:02
MyrttiI've Given that person link to the fricking PASTEBIN THREE TIMES NOW19:02
MyrttiAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAERRRRGGGHH19:03
Myrtti!prayer19:03
ubottuDear $DEITY, Give me strength to understand and work with users who question my logic, the rules, netiquette and common sense. Give me resilience to teach them the basics of Linux, Ubuntu, Community Guidelines and IRC. Allow me not to stray to nitpicking, argument, foul language or leisure op abuse. Deliver me my daily xkcd, User Friendly, LWN, /. and Planet Ubuntu, and guard over my encrypted drives. Let it be so.19:03
naliothLjL: :(19:04
LjLanavarro: the pastebin is a site where you can paste commands' output and other stuff that people need to see, to solve your problems. you paste into it, and then you give the resulting URL in the channel to the person who requested it.19:05
LjLanavarro: that's what myrtti was trying to tell you19:05
LjLby means of our bot.19:05
LjLour bot works like this19:06
LjL!bot19:06
ubottuHi! I'm #ubuntu-ops's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots19:06
LjLyou give it a command prefixed with !, and it gives you some text about what you asked.19:06
LjLspecifically,19:06
LjL!pastebin19:06
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)19:06
anavarro!pastebin19:07
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)19:07
anavarrook19:07
anavarroI will paste the terminal output there19:07
anavarro<LjL>ok?19:07
LjLyes, please19:08
* Myrtti makes a cowardly run towards the emergency exit19:12
anavarroLjL: I appreciate your help, so I need it to work, really thx !!19:15
ubottuIn ubottu, anavarro said: this is my pastebin19:21
Myrttianavarro: it's a bot19:21
anavarrothis is the URL you ask me http://paste.ubuntu.com/57097/19:21
anavarroI'm desperado19:21
anavarroI need my mysql working to continuing working 19:22
anavarrosorry19:22
anavarro:(19:23
jussi01!idle | anavarro19:37
ubottuanavarro: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.19:37
jussi01anavarro: are there any other operator issues we can help you with? (support is in #ubuntu)19:40
anavarroI dont know19:41
anavarroubottu ask me the pastebin url19:41
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:41
anavarrook19:41
Myrttianavarro: ubottu is a bot, a piece of program that we use to help the daily irc tasks19:42
anavarroyes19:42
anavarroI got it19:42
anavarrosorry19:42
jussi01anavarro: thats for your mysql query, this channel is for if you have a question for the operators.19:42
anavarroI just need help19:42
anavarrook19:42
anavarrothx19:42
jussi01anavarro: please leave this channel and ask in #ubuntu19:42
jussi01:)19:42
anavarrosorry19:42
* jussi01 hugs Myrtti19:43
MyrttiI'm *NOT* going to say a word.19:43
Myrttisurely the people watching and reading the logs would love to see me bash my head on the virtual wall19:43
Myrttibut dear god. If I were given an euro everytime I want to strangle someone over IP...19:44
Myrttioops19:44
MyrttiI guess I said it19:44
naliothMyrtti: that's a nice thought, isn't it?  we'd all be able to retire while we're young  :P19:44
* jussi01 giggles at the name on this truck... http://lifematta.com/jussi01/event/14161/ (taken tonight in helsinki)19:48
naliothhttp://images.google.com/images?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=kline%20container&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi   jussi01 19:52
naliothjussi01: if you look around, there's a pic with a kline container that fell and smashed someones vehicle ( talk about a real kline )19:52
jussi01hehe19:52
=== Picipod is now known as Pici
ubottuIn #kubuntu, age1172 said: ubottu:  it is installed but only 2 partitions are mounted the others no20:22
Myrttiooooooooo20:35
Myrttiz_ == ASUS-tek20:35
MyrttiNOW I UNDERSTAND!20:35
Nafallo?20:36
Tm_Tawww20:37
PiciNOU?20:42
PiciAlso...  alt-4 does not work in mibbit :(20:43
Myrttinou?20:43
_Zeus_what the hell?20:56
_Zeus_!asl20:56
ubottuMost of us don't speak American Sign Language, please try english instead. ✌20:56
nalioth_Zeus_: can we help you?20:56
_Zeus_^^^20:57
_Zeus_what is that?20:57
nalioth_Zeus_: looks like a factoid to me20:57
_Zeus_how can i submit a removal?20:57
_Zeus_asl is not?20:57
naliothwhy? we're not here to provide a hookup service20:58
_Zeus_huh?20:58
Myrtti_Zeus_: um20:58
_Zeus_i'm telling you guys that this is a useless factoid20:58
_Zeus_!scope20:58
Myrttiis there something wrong with that factoid20:58
ubottuWe don't need factoids for *everything* ;)20:58
LjLremoval request rejected20:58
_Zeus_ok...20:58
LjLlook up in the urban dictionary or something what ASL can mean on chats20:59
_Zeus_yeah?20:59
_Zeus_i think this factoid is referring to sign language?20:59
Myrttiit is21:00
Myrttifor an excellent reason21:00
LjLunless you read it in a slightly subtler way21:00
Myrttito shrug off idiots that come to ask a/s/l21:00
_Zeus_OH21:00
_Zeus_now it makes sense21:00
_Zeus_ty :P21:00
Myrttiquite common21:00
naliothunfortunately21:00
Myrttiwas also referred in lifehacker the other day21:00
_Zeus_i've heard of, i just didn't make the conenction21:01
Myrttior was it simple dollar21:01
Myrttieither or21:01
LjLFTR, and IMVHO, IME, mrhf vf na vqvbg jub v unir ba uvtuyvtug sbe orvat na vqvbg21:03
Myrttihttp://lifehacker.com/5059124/how-to-deal-with-a-racist-joke-at-work21:04
jussi01LjL: whatever...21:04
Sergiuhi21:30
jussi01hi Sergiu21:31
Sergiuthe ubuntu 8.10 is not yet supported , yeaP?21:31
naliothSergiu: #ubuntu+1 21:31
jussi01Sergiu: you can find support in #ubuntu+121:31
Sergiuthere i have ban21:31
Sergiu..21:31
naliothSergiu: then i guess you are out of luck  :(21:31
Sergiuyeah, then i am going to install back hardy or gutsy .21:32
Myrttihttp://pastebin.com/f672733c221:35
jussi01lovely...21:36
naliothMyrtti: that's a 404 for me21:37
Myrttiwhatever21:37
MyrttiI don't really care21:38
Myrttihe says he's building that site21:38
Myrttigiving me that on unsolicited pm21:38
Myrttias to pppoe_dude too21:38
Myrttiand there's been complaints of him before21:39
Myrttinalioth: if it's 404 for you, it gives me a nice pink porn site21:41
MyrttiSexual Content Warning:21:41
MyrttiWarning: Adult Content21:41
Myrttiand so forth21:41
Myrttioy21:44
Myrttithat was the funnies21:44
Myrttihhhho21:44
elkbuntuMyrtti, oh, him again?21:48
Myrttihim.21:48
Myrttihttp://ircwall.appspot.com/quote/1604/21:48
Myrttithe awesome.21:49
elkbuntutopyli rocks21:50
elkbuntuanyway, really off to work now21:50
jussi01heheheh21:51
LjLtopyli rocks, but wastrel is the one who actually holds it all together21:58
LjLoh gawd that zeus is the son of a pgsql dev22:59

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