[00:00] <Finiras> does anyone know of a msn client with webcam functionality?
[00:00] <jspiro> douglas: you cannot do double-click hello-world.
[00:00] <losher> PacoRiviere: how far does the boot actually get. Does it even find the files & begin to boot?
[00:00] <threeseas> two hours? damn
[00:00] <PacoRiviere> losher: that's the best I could achive, with qgrubed, example even could not be found by grub error 12 and 13
[00:00] <jspiro> Finiras: I doubt there is one for linux.  try #kopete
[00:00] <dr_willis> douglas,  if it has no gui..ya wont see much when it runs
[00:00] <threeseas> its 700Mhz... shoudl I make that 5 hours?
[00:00] <PacoRiviere> losher anyway thanks for your help
[00:00] <soundray> threeseas: I picked a generous figure, since I don't know your hardware and your filesystem size
[00:00] <DocUSN-USMC> i guess i need option number 3 for this... anyone here familiar with a program. such as vbox or wine. that is free. i cant really afford buying windows for vbox and wine just doesnt work with gps nav software
[00:00] <soundray> threeseas: no
[00:00] <PacoRiviere> losher un moment i reboot
[00:00] <`Johnny`> (application/x-java-applet;version=1.6) how can I run this?
[00:01] <douglas> dr_willis, I don't even know what is the file :)
[00:01] <kelder> hi everyone, trying to get an xbox controller clone called logic3 freebird to work with modprobe xpad & jscalibrator, it shows only 12 buttons where there should be 15 - important buttons (cross, square, circle) are not mapped, anyone know how this could be adjusted?
[00:01] <threeseas> Thanbks guys... I do now believe you are right
[00:01] <dr_willis> DocUSN-USMC,  does it have some special hardware?  if you are running windows in virtualbox   most all apps shuld run.
[00:01] <douglas> jspiro, ./ is a run command?
[00:01] <jspiro> douglas: kinda
[00:01] <DocUSN-USMC> dr_willis i cant afford windows to run vbox
[00:01] <jspiro> DocUSN-USMC: do you attend any school?  which?
[00:02] <losher> PacoRiviere: I've had problems in the past with sysrescue grub finding disks in a different order than ubuntu grub
[00:02] <soundray> douglas: no, it specifies a location
[00:02] <DocUSN-USMC> jspiro no i dont
[00:02] <Finiras> does anyone know of a msn client with webcam functionality? (thanks jspiri ill look into it)
[00:02] <PacoRiviere> losher: Error 13: Invalid or unsuported executable format
[00:02] <PacoRiviere> No even start to boot
[00:02] <dominik> i need to update my partition table after having resized my lvm physical volume...but how?
[00:02] <DocUSN-USMC> i did the linux search. thier is no active street by street nav for gps in linux. but i have the software but in wine it wont create maps
[00:02] <dr_willis> DocUSN-USMC,  well.. i  always have a few spare copies of XP around.. so thats not an issue for me.
[00:03] <lliw00> is there a way to set the port of the gnome remote desktop preferences from text mode?
[00:03] <DocUSN-USMC> dr_willis i have absolutely none
[00:03] <soundray> dominik: I don't know much about LVM, but I think your question is misguided
[00:03] <jspiro> DocUSN-USMC: are you OK having Windows for only 90 day free trial?
[00:03] <jspiro> DocUSN-USMC: then get Windows Server 2003 demo.
[00:03] <DocUSN-USMC> hmmm thats an idea i think...
[00:03] <dominik> soundray: why?
[00:04] <DocUSN-USMC> and what keygen it:P dont let it update?
[00:04] <jspiro> DocUSN-USMC: it will break when the trial ends.
[00:04] <soundray> dominik: once you're managing a logical volume inside a partition, the "outer shell" does not need to be modified any more
[00:04] <jspiro> DocUSN-USMC: or, another option:  buy Windows from someone at ubuntuforums.org.  have them sell to you through ebay.com though for safety reasons.
[00:05] <DocUSN-USMC> jspiro you know my wifes in college... i wonder if thier tech department would have a copyu
[00:05] <PacoRiviere> losher: thanks anyway try again tomorrow its late here.
[00:05] <losher> PacoRiviere: ok, bye
[00:05] <PacoRiviere> bye losher
[00:05] <dr_willis> DocUSN-USMC,  college students can get BIG discounts on  windows stuff
[00:05] <dominik> soundray: but when I use fdisk my whole hdd is filled up by the partition in which the pv resides, even after I resized the pv...how can I have another partition at the end of the hdd?
[00:06] <jspiro> DocUSN-USMC: she should ask her college if they have MSDN Academic Alliance.  that means she may be able to get Windows Vista for free.
[00:06] <DocUSN-USMC> ill have to do that...
[00:06] <soundray> dominik: oh, so you need extra space *outside* the logical volume?
[00:06] <jspiro> DocUSN-USMC: she should ask the Computer Science or Computing Studies or IT department.
[00:06] <jspiro> Finiras: i am curious, what did they tell you in #kopete?
[00:07] <jspiro> they would be the most knowledgeable on the topic.
[00:07] <dominik> soundray: exactly. I just wanted to decrease my physical volume (which contains some logical volumes) to have some space for another OS on my hdd. I want to have dualboot between xen server and another os...
[00:08] <freakazoid> anyone know of a program or script that will reconnect my pppoe con when the ping is over 1k ?
[00:08] <unitedpotsmokers> where can i order a free cd of interpid ibex?
[00:08] <[biabia]> ok is it possible for me to share a folder on this pc with another linux pc in the other room
[00:08] <jspiro> unitedpotsmokers: did you try looking at the official ubuntu website?  they have a link
[00:08] <jspiro> [biabia]: yes.
[00:08] <dr_willis> [biabia],  yes.
[00:08] <Scunizi> unitedpotsmokers: you can download it from www.ubuntu.com
[00:08]  * dr_willis waits for  the 'how?' reply now
[00:08] <[biabia]> lol
[00:08] <unitedpotsmokers> i dont have a fast connection my friends...
[00:08] <jspiro> unitedpotsmokers: did you try looking at the official ubuntu website?  they have a link for how to order a free CD.
[00:09] <Scunizi> unitedpotsmokers: cd's won't be available until after its final release.
[00:09] <dr_willis> !nfs | [biabia]
[00:09] <[biabia]> HOW!!???
[00:09] <soundray> dominik: I see. I don't know if it's possible to resize a partition that contains a logical volume, but I think that's what you need to try
[00:09] <jspiro> unitedpotsmokers: oops i see you want intrepid.  why in the world do you want a beta of intrepid?
[00:09] <dr_willis> [biabia],  for a few quick file transfers you could use sshfs, also
[00:09] <[biabia]> oops i was to slow. thanks
[00:09] <jspiro> unitedpotsmokers: :)
[00:09] <freakazoid> anyone know of a program or script that will reconnect my pppoe con when the ping is over 1k ?
[00:09] <[biabia]> i'd prefer an somewhat open access back and forth
[00:09] <douglas> jspiro, sorry to keep bugging you :) when I type ./douglas or ./douglas.ol it says file don't exists, and typing ./douglas.o it says access denied... do you have any suggestion?
[00:09] <jspiro> freakazoid: I don't know of one.  if you are positive that that is what you need, at rentacoder.com or elance.com you can hire someone to write one.
[00:10] <unitedpotsmokers> i cant wait at the end of this month, maybe i should order it earlier
[00:10] <jspiro> douglas: sorry, I forgot about you, thank you for reminding me you're waiting. use this command: ./douglas
[00:10] <jspiro> douglas: does it work?
[00:10] <jspiro> douglas: oops I see doesn't exist
[00:10] <dominik> soundray: yes I agree...my problem is, that I have no clue which resizing tool to use
[00:10] <jspiro> douglas: try this: find . -iname douglas
[00:10] <Finiras> jspiro, yes it supports msn webcam functionality
[00:10] <Scunizi> unitedpotsmokers: the other solution is to find someone with a fast connection and have them download and burn it for you.  I'd suggest just burning the iso as an iso and you do your own image burning of it.. just in case of a bad burn you'll be able to redo it instead of going back and forth to the original person.
[00:10] <soundray> unitedpotsmokers: that's pointless. Once you've installed from a beta CD, you have to download and install 300+MB of updates.
[00:10] <[biabia]> thanks dr willis
[00:10] <jspiro> Finiras: does it work well, reliably, and easily?
[00:10] <douglas> No problem ;) and thanks for helping!
[00:11] <jspiro> Finiras: and does it support microphone sound yet?
[00:11] <soundray> dominik: why not try qtparted if you're comfortable with it
[00:11] <douglas> jspiro, No problem ;) and thanks for helping!
[00:11] <jspiro> douglas: did it work?
[00:11] <dominik> I tried qtparted. it does not recognize the fstype...
[00:11] <mgroman> CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL
[00:11] <mgroman> 8-)
[00:11] <unitedpotsmokers> yes my friend, i using interpid now, but i want to order interpid final release... should i wait at the end of this month?
[00:11] <Wryneck> quit
[00:11] <jspiro> mgroman: that is offtopic.  Please stay ontopic.
[00:11] <Wryneck> woops lol
[00:12] <julian> how do you transfer music to palm centro
[00:12] <BriteLeaf> I have Ubuntu 8.04.1. I load it just fine. When I try to load the Linux drivers for my ATI video card though, after they load I go to an Out Of Range state and then I have no video. Can anyone help me to figure out how to fix this?
[00:12]  * mgroman swiftly joins offtopic
[00:12] <jspiro> julian: if nobody here helped you, try asking at ubuntuforums
[00:12] <Scunizi> unitedpotsmokers: wait until 8.10.1
[00:12] <douglas> jspiro, I tried this douglas@my-desktop:~/first3/debug/src$ find . -iname douglas
[00:12] <jspiro> mgolisch: thanks.
[00:12] <jspiro> oops
[00:12] <douglas> jspiro, didn't happen anything
[00:12] <jspiro> mgroman: thanks.
[00:12] <douglas> I did the right thing?
[00:12] <jspiro> douglas: ok.  try this:  find ../.. -iname douglas
[00:12] <Scunizi> !resolution | BriteLeaf
[00:12] <julian> ive searrched and found nothing
[00:12] <jspiro> douglas: "nothing" was expected.
[00:13] <Scunizi> BriteLeaf: the link isn't just resolution but also has tips on configuring the refresh rates.
[00:13] <jspiro> julian: try posting a message at ubuntuforums.org
[00:13] <unitedpotsmokers> ok thanks for the info my friend... :)
[00:13] <jspiro> julian: if nobody here helps you, that's the next place to try
[00:13] <Finiras> jspiro well im not sure about the microphone, but i actually found out that the webcam functionality works by using google. not sure how reliable it is too..... I'll try it
[00:13] <Anza> Does anyone could recommend me any app on linux that works like a "Directory Lister"?
[00:13] <jspiro> julian: maybe nobody here knows.
[00:13] <jspiro> Anza: you want "ls"?
[00:13] <jspiro> or LIST?
[00:13]  * Scunizi see's unitedpotsmokers disappear in a fog
[00:14] <jspiro> or XTree Gold?  or Norton?
[00:14] <Finiras> jspiro if you send me your msn address in pm we can test it
[00:14] <Finiras> so you can test it by seeing my cam
[00:14] <unitedpotsmokers> lol
[00:14] <jspiro> Finiras: i have no kopete
[00:14] <BriteLeaf> ubottu:Ummm.... How do type anything if I have a black screen? I can't see anything.
[00:14] <douglas> jspiro, nothing appeared again
[00:14] <jspiro> Finiras: ask in #kopete.
[00:14] <Finiras> its as easy as apt-get install kopete
[00:15] <jspiro> douglas: then I have no idea.  you should bring your computer to a local LUG for in-person help.
[00:15] <Scunizi> BriteLeaf: boot into rescue mode for a text based console that almost always works.
[00:15] <jspiro> Finiras: no thanks
[00:15] <Finiras> whatever
[00:15] <jspiro> douglas: what city do you live in, if i may ask?
[00:15] <douglas> I guess I have to learn more about command lines, right? :)
[00:15] <Scunizi> BriteLeaf: or CTRL+ALT+F2
[00:15] <jspiro> douglas: yes
[00:15] <Finiras> thanks anyway for directing me to jspiro
[00:15] <Anza> jspiro, how can I do to save the result of a file using ls?
[00:15] <jspiro> Finiras: No problem
[00:15] <BriteLeaf> how do I do that Scunizi?
[00:15] <jspiro> Anza: what are you really trying to do?
[00:15] <tvakah> well on the upside, I've got openvpn running as non root, no sudo or anything involved; the downside is nm-openvpn still segfaults
[00:15] <jspiro> douglas: if you answer, i can lug search for you.
[00:16] <douglas> jspiro, I live in Rio de Janeiro, Br
[00:16] <Scunizi> BriteLeaf: CTRL+ALT+F2?  do one.. hold it.. do the next .. and hold it down too.. then the third
[00:16] <jspiro> douglas: 2 min
[00:16] <kelder> [gamepad] I'm trying to get an xbox controller clone called logic3 freebird to work with modprobe xpad & jscalibrator, it shows only 12 buttons where there should be 15 - important buttons (cross, square, circle) are not mapped, anyone know how this could be adjusted?
[00:16] <jspiro> douglas: I see lots.  http://www.google.com/search?q=rio+de+janeiro+linux
[00:16] <jspiro> douglas: or ask in the Portugese Ubuntu channel for more.
[00:16] <Anza> jspiro, get a html or text file after list a folder
[00:17] <BriteLeaf> thanks folks. I will try that. Hopefully that will work
[00:17] <jspiro> Anza: double-click on "Home Folder" on your desktop, then the folder, then double-click on the file.  is that ok?
[00:17] <soundray> Anza: 'ls /path/to/folder >filename.txt'
[00:17] <jspiro> douglas: looks good?
[00:17] <jspiro> soundray: ah.  I wasn't able to figure out what Anza wanted
[00:18] <soundray> jspiro: just taking a wild guess
[00:18] <jspiro> Anza: what other languages do you speak?
[00:18] <jspiro> French?  Spanish?
[00:18] <Anza> spanish
[00:18] <jspiro> !es may be able to help you more :)
[00:18] <jspiro> !es
[00:19] <jspiro> Anza: ok?  :)
[00:19] <douglas> jspiro, Yes, thank u! But those guys u found on google help us by e-mail?
[00:19] <jspiro> douglas: don't ask for help by email.   Your problem is too hard.  Go visit their next meeting.
[00:19] <jspiro> You need training :)
[00:19] <unitedpotsmokers> one more thing my friend, now im using 8.1.0 beta, should i order a new cd, or just update my OS?
[00:19] <Anza> jspiro, I dont even know what are we talking about, I am trying to help a friend that was asking me for help LOL
[00:19] <jspiro> douglas: before the meeting, ask if someone can help you
[00:19] <jspiro> Anza: ah.  then send your friend here
[00:20] <Anza> jspiro,  he is shy
[00:20] <jspiro> unitedpotsmokers: i dunno.  i have decided i will not use 8.10 beta until it is ready.
[00:20] <jspiro> Anza: sorry
[00:20] <jspiro> too shy for IRC?
[00:20] <jspiro> :)
[00:20] <douglas> jspiro, Ok! Those meetings are charged?
[00:20] <unitedpotsmokers> ic... so i need to format my laptop and install hardy?
[00:20] <jspiro> douglas: almost always free.
[00:21] <jspiro> douglas: they are not the best place for training, but they are the best place with no charge
[00:21] <douglas> Cool :)
[00:21] <Anza> jspiro, soundray : how i could list the contents of the subfolders in that folder?
[00:21] <soundray> Anza: ls -R
[00:21] <Anza> with the same command of course
[00:21] <jspiro> Anza: i do not support 3rd parties, sorry :) send your friend here.
[00:21] <Mickmeister> Does anybody know how I can enable desktop effects? My PC has a graphics card built into the motherboard, and when I run lspci it says that the graphics card is unknown and lists the manafacturer as Intel.
[00:21] <stack_> the Gnome vino-server seems to be advertising via avahi.  Can I disable that?
[00:22] <jspiro> douglas: one thing though
[00:22] <jspiro> all : how can douglas attend a LUG meeting and make sure he gets help with his problem?
[00:22] <soundray> Mickmeister: what happens when you try to turn effects on through System-Preferences-Appearance-Visual Effects?
[00:22] <meustation> Mickmeister: there should be inteldrivers available in the repo
[00:22] <jspiro> all : last time someone came to the Seneca mini-LUG for support, nobody was able (or, I think, interested) to help.
[00:22] <jspiro> we are a LUG of 5 people :)
[00:23] <jspiro> douglas: how many people in the Rio LUGs?
[00:23] <soundray> I wish people would stop spreading this nonsense about LSD coming from Berkeley.
[00:23] <douglas> :) And what does this name LUG means?
[00:23] <unitedpotsmokers> i really need ur advice bro
[00:23] <jspiro> !lug
[00:23] <jspiro> unitedpotsmokers: whose advice?
[00:23] <unitedpotsmokers> you all
[00:23] <Anza> has anyone played age of empires III or age of mythology on ubuntu hardy heron? does it works? any link u'd recommend describing the installation?
[00:23] <Mickmeister> soundray, well I have 7.04 at the moment, it's a fresh installation and I haven't upgraded to 8.04 yet but when I do System > Preferences > Desktop Effects the screen goes white and then after a few seconds comes back to normal without the effects enabled.
[00:24] <jspiro> unitedpotsmokers: so re-ask.
[00:24] <karsten> What's the bash trick in ubuntu/kubuntu that gives information on packages for commands not found?  Neat trick.
[00:24] <Flannel> !wine | Anza
[00:24] <meustation> Mickmeister, try looking for glx in synaptic
[00:24] <jspiro> Anza: check http://appdb.winehq.org for their appdb
[00:24] <Anza> btw... soundray and jspiro: my friend says thanks alot!
[00:24] <Mickmeister> meustation, thanks.
[00:24] <opticalmouse> Anza,have you try PlayOnLinux application?
[00:24] <unitedpotsmokers> should i format my laptop and install hardy?
[00:24] <jspiro> Anza: tell your friend they're welcome and they should go on IRC.
[00:24] <freakazoid> anyone know how i would about making ubuntu run a command every lets say, 20seconds ?
[00:24] <soundray> Mickmeister: I think your best bet is to do a fresh installation of 8.04
[00:24] <jspiro> freakazoid: why?
[00:24] <douglas> jspiro, thanks. I don't know how many, but I saw on the search u did they are many places in brazil
[00:25] <meustation> Mickmeister: very likely that you'll get more than one driver package marked as intel
[00:25] <Orbixx> Why would my wireless card work with Ubuntu, then suddenly drop and no longer work, demanding a correct WPA key, when it is definitely correct?
[00:25] <jspiro> douglas: good.  try a few.  also try meetup.com if they cover brazil
[00:25] <Orbixx> p.s. It's definitely correct.
[00:25] <soundray> Anza: your friend is very welcome
[00:25] <freakazoid> jspiro, some stupid thing im trying to test with my windows pc
[00:25] <freakazoid> ;/
[00:25] <jin> is there any alternative to AWN? because AWN is very buggy here. :(
[00:25] <smil3y> freakazoid>  what do you want to run every 20 seconds?
[00:25] <Anza> Flannel, ubottu I know it has to be on wine, I just dunno if it would work well because they info on that appdb thing is quite old, and otherwise I think the installation will be quite complicate, so I was wondering if someone has played it recently on ubuntu and if you know where I could find orientation for the installation process
[00:25] <opticalmouse> anza,please visit http://www.playonlinux.com/en/ for further information & guide
[00:26] <douglas> jspiro, Okay, thanks a lot for the help!
[00:26] <karsten> freakazoid: cron only gives you 1-minute specificity.  In a shell you could do:  while : do; <command>; sleep 20; done
[00:26] <meustation> Mickmeister I can't remember the exact name, been a while since I had to install them, but in the description of the packages you should find enough info as to determine which is good for your machine
[00:26] <Mickmeister> meustation, once I search for glx what do I do next? Which package will I be installing?
[00:26] <mosiac> anyone here know much about usb wifi dongles?
[00:26] <jspiro> jin: ask in #awn irc channel
[00:26] <karsten> freakazoid: ... which basically runs an infinite loop w/ a 20 s delay.
[00:26] <Mickmeister> meustation, right okay thank you./
[00:26] <meustation> Mickmeister, it should have either "intel" or "driver" in the name
[00:27] <freakazoid> kool karsten, and how would i kill that, when i dont need it, close the shell ?
[00:27] <Anza> opticalmouse, I will check it out, first time I hear about. Thanks
[00:27] <jspiro> douglas: you're welcome.
[00:27] <karsten> freakazoid: ctrl-c, kill the shell, kill the terminal, etc.
[00:27] <freakazoid> kk ta
[00:27] <Mickmeister> meustation, is it likely the GC will support enhanced effects?
[00:27] <soundray> Mickmeister: you're really making it unnecessarily difficult by trying to get an unsupported old version to work, especially if you want advanced features like 3D effects.
[00:27] <karsten> freakazoid: You could also do some test if you wanted, for a termination condition.
[00:28] <soundray> Mickmeister: yes, your graphics card should be fine
[00:28] <karsten> freakazoid: all basic shell scripting stuff.  man bash, help test
[00:28] <Mickmeister> soundray, I have reasons for what I am doing. There is a reason I have 7.04.
[00:28] <meustation> Mickmeister, afaik intel are one of the most friendly towards linux
[00:28] <soundray> Mickmeister: okay then stick with it, but get by without effects.
[00:28] <BriteLeaf> Ok, after I ctrl + alt + f2 I get in, but using sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart restarts my video, but it doesn't change the settings. Is there a command I can use in the console to change the settings before I restart it?
[00:28] <Mickmeister> soundray, I am upgrading to 8.04 as we speak.
[00:28] <trend> yo homies
[00:29] <soundray> Mickmeister: via 7.10?
[00:29] <Mickmeister> soundray, yes.
[00:29] <meustation> I choose a laptop with an intel card (mine is integrated aswell) especially because I hoped to have effects working, and I did :)
[00:29] <karsten> What's the bash trick in ubuntu/kubuntu that gives information on packages for commands not found?  Neat trick. (re-ask)
[00:29] <soundray> Mickmeister: okay, if you succeed, you'll be fine (I think)
[00:29] <opticalmouse> but intel x3100 gets so poor to play several games especially those 3D games
[00:29] <Mickmeister> soundray, of course I'll succeed lol
[00:30] <meustation> never had an internet update that didn't break something up
[00:30] <Orbixx> Can anyone suggest why Ubuntu network manager is refusing my wireless key for my wlan network. (it's correct)
[00:30] <meustation> then again, I'm inclined to think it was my fault and not ubuntu's
[00:30] <soundray> Mickmeister: don't challenge your fate
[00:30] <MrKennie> karsten: the package is apparently called command-not-found
[00:30] <Mickmeister> soundray, haha! It should be fine.
[00:31] <FreshPrince> hi
[00:31] <karsten> MrKennie: Heh.  Thanks.
[00:31] <soundray> Mickmeister: it should be, but if you listen carefully, you'll hear the echo of the squeals of those who have tried and failed
[00:31] <Mickmeister> soundray, I have upgraded in this way before.
[00:31] <soundray> (just kidding)
[00:31] <Mickmeister> lmao
[00:32] <karsten> MrKennie: Some sort of bash completion, looking up the mechanism
[00:33] <MrKennie> karsten: I guess you could look into the details of that package and see how it does it.
[00:33] <Mickmeister> soundray, you see my hardware was unsupported. Every single Linux distro I would try and install on my new machine would fail during installation with some kind of error message. So Intel made a 7.04 ISO image with the hardware drivers implemented. I burnt the ISO and installed, and that's the reason I'm using 7.04.
[00:33] <FreshPrince> hi, i newly installed openjdk-6-jre java via synpatic, and now i have to activate the java for my browser.. i have to link the java plugin to the firefox plugin but i cant find the libjavaplugin_oji.so its not in the directory of /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/ and i can't find it with "whereis or locate libjavaplugin_oji.so" anybody an idea?
[00:34] <bonelabs> testing
[00:34] <soundray> Mickmeister: have you tried an intrepid beta yet? I'd be curious how that goes
[00:34] <Mickmeister> I haven't no.
[00:34] <misfitx7> yall know im a pimp right?
[00:34] <lliw00> is there a way to start the gnome remote desktop from command line, my local computer cannot seem to get a connection to the remote one
[00:35] <MrKennie> FreshPrince: you need to install the plugin package too
[00:35] <FreshPrince> lliw00, use thightvnc
[00:35] <karsten> MrKennie: Yeah, tryng, the README doesn't match the implementation though...
[00:35] <dakira> hi.. how does ubuntu generate the xorg.conf during installation? because the xorg.conf I get when I do a "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" looks differently. Will Ubuntu generate a new one if I just remove the file?
[00:35] <FreshPrince> MrKennie, oh i tought its in the package openjdk-6-re
[00:35] <lliw00> freshprince, is there an easy way to install and configure that from ssh/
[00:36] <soundray> lliw00: if you suspect that your remote X just isn't running, try 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart' through ssh
[00:36] <FreshPrince> lliw00, what exactly do you want to do?
[00:36] <freakazoid> karsten, it doesnt seem to be working ;/
[00:36] <FreshPrince> yes
[00:36] <freakazoid> i type it, i then get >
[00:36] <freakazoid> and nothing really happens
[00:36] <FreshPrince> try soundray's option
[00:37] <Iceman_B^Ltop> greetings, is there any way to force Ubuntu to boot in safe graphics mode, ALWAYS ?
[00:37] <karsten> freakazoid: Which part?
[00:37] <Orbixx> Iceman_B^Ltop: Alter grub's boot file.
[00:37] <karsten> Iceman_B^Ltop: boot options.  You can set the bootlevel.  You mean non-GUI / console mode?
[00:37] <freakazoid> while : do; <command>; sleep 20; done
[00:37] <Iceman_B^Ltop> no I mean gui mode, but in like the lowest resolution possible
[00:38] <lliw00> freshprince: im here at college and 1100 miles away is my server. i stream music to myself off this server because my laptop cant hold it all. i also want to turn it into a torrent box for my vms and isos and such but i cant seem to get a good look as to what is happening with my torrent programs. i would like to remotely view the desktop so i can control it the way i best know how
[00:38] <karsten> freakazoid: while :; do <command>; sleep 20; done.
[00:38] <freakazoid> kk ta
[00:38] <karsten> freakazoid: No semicolon after the 'do', my bad.
[00:38] <karsten> freakazoid: eg:  while :; do echo "hello, world"; sleep 5; done
[00:38] <Orbixx> lliw00: Install xorg, gnome or kde and vncserver
[00:38] <Iceman_B^Ltop> my housemate has some bigass lcd monitor/tv thing, and it doesnt understand the standard reso Ubuntu enters when the GUI really starts. it also has trouble detecting the monitor itself
[00:39] <Iceman_B^Ltop> but somehow after the install I got it to go into safe graphical mode, and that works
[00:39] <dakira> hi.. how does ubuntu generate the xorg.conf during installation? because the xorg.conf I get when I do a "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" looks differently. Will Ubuntu generate a new one if I just remove the file?
[00:39] <Orbixx> Iceman_B^Ltop: You probably need to configure /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[00:39] <lliw00> orbixx, i have xorg, and gnome. vncserver i dont
[00:39] <Iceman_B^Ltop> oh boy....no idea how I do that
[00:39] <Orbixx> lliw00: Install it, and do a quick read-up on it.
[00:39] <FreshPrince> lliw00, use vnc
[00:40] <geoffrian> Hello everyone
[00:40] <Iceman_B^Ltop> but I'll look into that Orbixx, tnx
[00:40]  * Orbixx sighs.
[00:40] <Orbixx> I'll never quite understand why wireless is so difficult on Linux.
[00:40] <Iceman_B^Ltop> same
[00:40] <splitlenz> hi
[00:40] <splitlenz> me too
[00:40] <splitlenz> dunno
[00:40] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I also tried to get his wifi adapter(linksys) to run, but no luck
[00:40] <Orbixx> It can find networks.
[00:40] <Orbixx> It's BEEN connecting to networks.
[00:41] <Orbixx> Now it refuses correct keys for networks.
[00:41] <Orbixx> No user intervention.
[00:41] <Iceman_B^Ltop> then I tried a wired connection, and the only page I can open is google.com
[00:41] <splitlenz> you tried wicd and network manager?
[00:41] <Iceman_B^Ltop> nothing else will loads :/
[00:41] <smil3y> Orbixx>  try a diff kernel when booting, works for me
[00:41] <splitlenz> can you guys see what im typing? lol
[00:42] <comicinker1> how can I mount an image made with partimage?
[00:42] <bunnyto> mount
[00:42] <karsten> comicinker1: mount -o loop -t <filesystem> <image> <mountpoint>
[00:42] <Orbixx> mount <options> <source> <destination>
[00:42] <tictac232434> split: Yea
[00:42] <splitlenz> samba is pwning my butt
[00:42] <mosiac> anyone here have any experience with xlink kai?
[00:43] <Orbixx> smil3y: Don't have another kernel to use, never messed with kernels.
[00:43] <karsten> mosiac: Just ask you rquestion
[00:43] <comicinker1> karsten: it was a fat32 filesystem. when I use -t vfat, I receive: bad superblock. the partimage file was decompressed with unp. any idea?
[00:43] <mosiac> im trying to follow the guide to get the gui to work, but after i make the link to auto load kai with the gui that link doesn't work
[00:43] <smil3y> Orbixx>  when you boot, you only have one kernel show up in grub??
[00:44] <adub> im looking for a matrix theme for beryl does anyone know that one exist
[00:44] <karsten> comicinker1: I'm not familiar with partimage.  Is this a partitioned filesystem image?  Does it contain partitions within it, or is it just a flat filesystem image?
[00:44] <splitlenz> i have samba installed, i try to access the windows folders through the network, but it says cannot mount location, anyone have ideas?
[00:44] <Pensador> join #murrine
[00:44] <adub> i seen this guy do a demo online of a 3d matrix beryl theme for gnome but i cant find it anywhere
[00:44] <bunnyto> so you can play games + use compiz ?
[00:44] <karsten> comicinker1: If there are partitions within the image, you need to supply an offset.
[00:44] <FreshPrince> MrKennie, and how is the package name of the plugin for openjdk-6-re ?
[00:44] <smil3y> Orbixx>  ti save like 2 or 3 specifically for this purpose, when drivers dont work
[00:44] <FreshPrince> "jre
[00:44] <comicinker1> karsten: just a flat filesystem. are you german?
[00:45] <karsten> comicinker1: Not usually.
[00:45] <Mickmeister> meustation, sorry I had to reboot.
[00:45] <splitlenz> :/
[00:45] <Mickmeister> meustation, nothing relevant came up in Synaptic.
[00:46] <karsten> comicinker1: If it is partitioned, you need to specify an offset.  See:  http://www.unix.com/filesystems-disks-memory/24366-can-loopback-filesystem-partitioned.html
[00:46] <karsten> comicinker1: ... I've run into that with qemu disk images (as deckard did in that post).
[00:46] <MrKennie> FreshPrince: there are a couple. icedtea nad gcjwebplugin but your mileage will vary as they are still pretty young comparitive to sun java plugin
[00:48] <FreshPrince> MrKennie, ok
[00:48] <comicinker1> I see. however, there were no partitions on it. I think I have to uncompress the partimage file first correctly.
[00:48] <comicinker1> | karsten
[00:48] <karsten> comicinker1: If the image is compressed, yes, you'll have to uncompress it.
[00:48] <karsten> comicinker1: Just reading partimage docs.
[00:48] <Iceman_B^Ltop> can anyone explain the "roaming mode" on the ethernet/wifi networking ?
[00:49] <karsten> comicinker1: ... and I think it compresses by default.  Unless there's a loopback compressed filesystem driver/module, you'll have to decompress the file yourself.
[00:49] <eitreach> Where are the compiz settings files?
[00:49] <Orbixx> eitreach: ~/.compiz ?
[00:49] <bunnyto> HELP so you can play games + use compiz ?
[00:49] <Orbixx> Iceman_B^Ltop: Pretty much means DHCP or manual IP settings.
[00:50] <comicinker1> Orbixx: in gconf-editor?
[00:50] <Iceman_B^Ltop> okay, hmm
[00:50] <karsten> eitreach: man compiz  & search for "FILES" section.  File a bug against the package if there's notheing there.
[00:50] <Orbixx> comicinker1: Eh?
[00:50] <eitreach> Orbixx: No such dir.
[00:50] <ubuntu> Help me! I just did an fsck -y on a corrupt ext3 drive and it's wiped all the files!!!
[00:50] <Orbixx> eitreach: Was just guessing.
[00:50] <Iceman_B^Ltop> can you also explain why nothing but www.google.com wants to load in firefox ?
[00:50] <karsten> ubuntu: Good time to  test your backups.
[00:50] <Orbixx> eitreach: ls -lah ~
[00:50] <Iceman_B^Ltop> even when I've manually set a correct ip and hostmask AND gateway....
[00:50] <bunnyto> Ubuntu?
[00:51] <QJimbo> yeah I have some backups, but the drive itself was a backup drive
[00:51] <karsten> Iceman_B^Ltop: how's your resolver work?
[00:51] <QJimbo> sorry default nick
[00:51] <Orbixx> Iceman_B^Ltop: Manual works for me, it's just roaming mode that fails.
[00:51] <QJimbo> fixed now =P
[00:51] <Iceman_B^Ltop> karsten: what do you mean?
[00:51] <karsten> Iceman_B^Ltop: 'host <hostname>' does or doesn't resolve?
[00:51] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I'd have to check
[00:51] <Iceman_B^Ltop> brb with that info
[00:51] <karsten> Iceman_B^Ltop: Apparently you've got network connectivity, the problem may be your resolver not finding IPs for hostnames.
[00:52] <aXx> Hello! I'm using xChat. It automatically connects to Ubuntu Server - how can I choose the Server just like mIrc on windows? (need to fileshare, actually)
[00:52] <QJimbo> how strange
[00:53] <Iceman_B^Ltop> karsten: perhaps, but thats kinda weird tho....why does google resolve....
[00:53] <QJimbo> fsck reports "/dev/sdc1: clean, 110572/9781248 files," but there isn't a single file visible
[00:53] <BriteLeaf> Ok, after I ctrl + alt + f2 I get in, but using sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart restarts my video, but it doesn't change the settings. Is there a command I can use in the console to change the settings before I restart it?
[00:53] <Iceman_B^Ltop> meh, I'll see what I can do
[00:53] <Orbixx> Iceman_B^Ltop: Cached.
[00:53] <comicinker1> karsten: when I gzip -d image.dat.gz, I receive a file image.dat, however when I type in file image.dat I receive: (...) fat16 device /dev/sde, original filename backup_sd_1gb.img, gzip compressed     why is image.dat still gzipped?
[00:53] <Iceman_B^Ltop> Orbixx: maybe my router had it cached then, cause it was a new install
[00:53] <Orbixx> comicinker1: Try gunzip
[00:54] <Iceman_B^Ltop> and everything runs through my router, the DNS-ing as well
[00:54] <splitlenz> HELP samba is messed up :(
[00:54] <karsten> comicinker1: Not sure.  You might try looking at the first few hundred bytes with a hex editor.  Or:  dd if=image.dat bs=512 count=1 | od -c | less
[00:54] <Mickmeister> Where can I get drivers for my Intel graphics card? Anybody>
[00:54] <Orbixx> splitlenz: Discombobulate the conflagorator.
[00:54] <Orbixx> Mickmeister: Intel's website?
[00:54] <karsten> comicinker1: ... which dumps the first 512 bytes.  IIRC 'file' is looking at the first 1024 (max) bytes of a file to work out what it is.  It's guessing, might be wrong, may have found a gzip header within the disk image.
[00:54] <comicinker1> what does od -cool
[00:55] <Mickmeister> Orbixx, they don't seem to support Linux.
[00:55] <karsten> comicinker1: Try mounting the file yourself.
[00:55] <karsten> comicinker1: RTFM ;-)
[00:55] <MrKennie> Mickmeister: what's wrong wit hthe included drivers?
[00:55] <biopod> hey guys, anyone here from denmark?
[00:55] <karsten> Mickmeister: Intel GPU drivers should be in the kernel tree.  That's the whole idea bhind Intel's open-sourcing its gphx drivers.
[00:55] <karsten> biopod: nej
[00:56] <Mickmeister> MrKennie, my graphics card isn't working correctly, because of the lack of a driver I assume. I am having trouble enabling desktop effects.
[00:56] <MrKennie> Mickmeister: Mickmeister what chip is it?
[00:56] <Mickmeister> karsten, so what would I have to do to get the card working?
[00:56] <Mickmeister> MrKennie, I'm unsure.
[00:56] <karsten> Mickmeister: What's the card?  'lspci | grep VGA
[00:56] <FFEMTcJ> im trying to install 8.04 on my laptop.. it gets the step 3 (select a keyboard layout) i click forward and it is just sitting there "loading
[00:56] <thomc> I've created a crontab and cron is running, but it isn't running the tasks. What could I have missed?
[00:56] <karsten> Mickmeister: Select the right driver ;-)
[00:56] <darkhamm> hey, can i install intrepid beta from synaptic in hardy heron?
[00:56] <FFEMTcJ> " any idea what's wrong
[00:57] <biopod> karsten: i cant speak danish, but I'm looking for a tv commercial that has cupid being shot by cops, it was produced in thailand for a danish dating website that's called loves need help or something, and since I cant speak danish, thought i'll look for help around here...
[00:57] <karsten> Mickmeister: xorg _should_ work that out by itself.
[00:57] <Mickmeister> karsten,  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[00:57] <Dreamglider> does anyone know why gparted scans forever when i start it ?
[00:57] <karsten> biopod: spoken or written translation?
[00:57] <aXx> WHERE can I get some xChat support?
[00:57] <splitlenz> i just don't know where to start with samba, it sees the win workgroup, it can see the folders shared by the computer , but it can't go into the folders of the shared pc.
[00:57] <karsten> biopod: If it's text, Google's language tools has Danish => foo translation.
[00:58] <biopod> karsten: it's a video clip.. but I'll look for the text. thanks.
[00:58] <biopod> karsten: thought you might recognize it.
[00:58] <Dreamglider> i speak danish !
[00:58] <karsten> biopod: NP.  No, I'm not Danish & don't speak it.
[00:59] <aXx> !ping please
[00:59]  * ]K[^Omegadoom Ping please  Could not be resolved to an IP address
[00:59] <Mickmeister> karsten, where do I go from here?
[00:59] <darkhamm> hey, can i install intrepid beta from synaptic in hardy heron?
[00:59] <thiebaude> no, darkhamm
[00:59] <aXx> WHERE can I get some xChat support? please guys ^_^
[00:59] <BCM34> darkhamm: no
[01:00] <thiebaude> darkhamm:sudo apt-get update-manager -d
[01:00] <BCM34> AXx try #xchat or ##xchat
[01:00] <Dr_Willis_> aXx,  xchat has its own channel, and a very well done homepage/forum/docs
[01:00] <MrKennie> Mickmeister: can you paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to a pastebin?
[01:00] <Dr_Willis_> aXx,  be sure to check the docs befor asking any FAQ's
[01:00] <Rabbitbunny> are there any compliance issues re OOo file creation on Hardy and manipulation on Vista?
[01:01] <Mickmeister> MrKennie, sure.
[01:01] <thiebaude> !xchat
[01:01] <splitlenz> im sure if i do a little dance around the computer it will fix it
[01:01] <BCM34> Rabbitbunny: no
[01:01] <Rabbitbunny> BCM34: Thanks.
[01:01] <Schuenemann> Rabbitbunny, perhaps the fonts
[01:01] <BCM34> splitlenz: kicking it works also
[01:01] <aXx> Bcm34, Dr_Willis_, thank you
[01:01] <Rabbitbunny> Schuenemann: Not a problem, I deal wtih numbers.
[01:02] <Mickmeister> MrKennie, http://pastebin.ca/1225475
[01:02] <Rabbitbunny> Schuenemann: But thanks for the headsup.
[01:02] <splitlenz> yes, that's next
[01:02] <Schuenemann> Rabbitbunny, I mean be careful because you might use a font that 1 OS has but the other doesn't. One could be larger (in pages) than the other and that can mess things if you have pictures
[01:02] <Schuenemann> that happened with my graduation paper
[01:03] <Rabbitbunny> Hmm, Have to find someone with a viasta box for to play with...
[01:03] <MrKennie> Mickmeister: you're not using the intel driver. You're using the vesa driver.
[01:03] <Mickmeister> MrKennie, am I?
[01:03] <Mickmeister> MrKennie, so what do I have to do from here?
[01:03] <MrKennie> Mickmeister: running gutsy?
[01:03] <Schuenemann> use a font that both have or install the windows fonts in linux
[01:03] <WA5PB> has anyone had any luck with doing a bluetooth tether to their cellphone to use it as a modem?
[01:03] <Mickmeister> MrKennie, 7.10.
[01:04] <BCM34> WA5PB: do you have the service?
[01:04] <Mickmeister> MrKennie, I'm upgrading though. It's a fresh installation.
[01:04] <MrKennie> Mickmeister: I think your only option is to upgrade
[01:04] <Rabbitbunny> Schuenemann: Ah, the latter sounds easiest.
[01:04] <WA5PB> Yes, I have the service.
[01:04] <Mickmeister> Upgrading will solve the problem? MrKennie
[01:04] <christof1er> part
[01:04] <christof1er> ups
[01:04] <MrKennie> Mickmeister: it should do yes.
[01:04] <BCM34> WA5PB: just making shure
[01:05] <WA5PB> I have got 8.04 connecting to the phone, but not dialing it.  It tries to make an audio connect instead
[01:05] <MrKennie> Mickmeister: it's a fairly new chip I guess and support was available for it around the time of gutsy.
[01:05] <MrKennie> wasn't*
[01:05] <BCM34> WA5PB: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/PPP_dial_up_over_Bluetooth_Cell_Phone
[01:05] <Mickmeister> MrKennie, what is my graphics card like? Any good? Should desktop effects be fine with it?@
[01:06] <WA5PB> thanks, I will check it out.  I am sure I am just missing a small config edit
[01:06] <splitlenz> argh, i like ubuntu ,but this might make me get a mac
[01:06] <splitlenz> lo
[01:06] <MrKennie> Mickmeister: should be better than mine, I have a 950 GMA
[01:06] <Mickmeister> Is yours good?
[01:06] <MrKennie> Mickmeister: yet 3d works well enough for me.
[01:06] <Schuenemann> how does a Intel GMA X3100 perform on ubuntu?
[01:06] <bunnyto> what i can use to watch IPTV?
[01:07] <Schuenemann> or on linux in general
[01:07] <darkhamm> thiebaude: "sudo apt-get update-manager -d"
[01:07] <darkhamm> ?
[01:07] <thiebaude> darkhamm:to upgrade 8.04 to 8.10
[01:07] <WA5PB> I was thinking of getting a mac, but when I tried one I realized that I had all I needed with Ubuntu already.  But, the new macs are nice...   :-)
[01:07] <thiebaude> !ibex
[01:08] <BCM34> Schuenemann: from google it looks to be quite good. http://www.google.com/search?q=+ubuntu+GMA+X3100&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[01:08] <darkhamm> thiebaude: thanx, it works
[01:09] <thiebaude> the bot is overstating it, l dont think lots of broken software
[01:09] <MrKennie> Mickmeister: tell a lie, I have a 945 but close enough ;) Give Hardy a whirl anyway.
[01:09] <thiebaude> 8.10 runs great for me
[01:09] <Orbixx> So, nothing on my wireless issue then?
[01:09] <Dr_Willis_> thiebaude,  last i tried it - it wouldent even install.. :) so i will wait for a week or 2 after it comes out
[01:09] <Schuenemann> BCM34, yeah... I've read intel has a good history with linux drivers...
[01:09] <thiebaude> yw, darkhamm
[01:09] <PoisonArrow> Please, can someone tell me how I can install dir2lzm? If anyone knows what .lzm is
[01:10] <Schuenemann> notebooks with dedicated cards are so expensive
[01:10] <Dr_Willis_> PoisonArrow,  you dont know what .lzm is ? and you want to install dir2lzm?
[01:10] <thiebaude> dr_willis:if i don't install intel 815 i'll be ok, im sticking with the plug n play in graphics settings
[01:10] <PoisonArrow> Dr_Willis_, I know what is it, I want to create .lzm files
[01:10] <PoisonArrow> Dr_Willis_, or archives
[01:11] <krugar> Hello everyone. I'm trying to install kxmame on ubuntu through apt-get. Dependencies listed include xmame -common and xmame-sdl. However I don't want these emulators installed. I have compiled sdlmame and that will be the one I intend to use. How do I instruct apt-get to ignore dependencies?
[01:11] <Jordan_U> PoisonArrow: Install p7zip-full
[01:11] <PoisonArrow> Dr_Willis_, theres lzma, lzma-dev and lzma-source in the respitories but they dont include that command
[01:11] <PoisonArrow> Jordan_U, thanks I will check that out
[01:11] <thiebaude> dr_willis:i think i will eventually order the 8.10 cd and do a clean install
[01:11] <Dr_Willis_> PoisonArrow,  could be they are for somthing totally different, just named simialry.
[01:11] <Dr_Willis_> !Info lzma
[01:12] <PoisonArrow> Dr_Willis_, ya
[01:12] <DocUSN-USMC> 8.10 comes out what the 30th?
[01:12] <DocUSN-USMC> what are they calling it?
[01:12] <thiebaude> yes,doc
[01:12] <thiebaude> !ibex
[01:12] <PoisonArrow> Jordan_U, does that contain the dir2lzm command?
[01:12] <Dr_Willis_> PoisonArrow,  from what i am googling.. they are used by slax.. but  Im not gettting a lot of info on them.
[01:12] <Jordan_U> PoisonArrow: No
[01:12] <droopsta915> can someone tell me what to do with this error? W:Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com./ubuntu/pool/main/e/eject/eject_2.1.5-6ubuntu1_1386.deb Could not resolve "Edgar"
[01:12] <Dr_Willis_> PoisonArrow,  you could run slax in virtualbox and make them with slax. I guess.
[01:12] <Schuenemann> DocUSN-USMC, everytime someone asks when something will be done, it's postponed
[01:13] <DocUSN-USMC> oh good lots of broken software lol
[01:13] <PoisonArrow> Jordan_U, lol
[01:13] <karsten> Mickmeister: Sorry, afk.  Where are you at?
[01:13] <DocUSN-USMC> id rather it be done right than done now
[01:13] <PoisonArrow> Dr_Willis_, ya so theres no package I can download, its only for slax?
[01:13] <Jordan_U> PoisonArrow: What are you trying to do specifically?  Why do you want to create .lzm files?
[01:14] <Dr_Willis_> PoisonArrow,  we could be very confused on the topic.. from what i am reading they are comprese3d packages for slackware/slax -   so why are you messing ith them,
[01:14] <danny_> i need some help, i'm trying to install a new driver for my graphics card and it needs me to stop x script and login, when i stop it, there's no place to log in. just pulls up an empty black screen with a single cursor flashing
[01:14] <Mickmeister> karsten, I'm in the process up upgrading.
[01:14] <PoisonArrow> Jordan_U, I am trying to edit the .lzm files on an .iso and add a directory to it
[01:15] <karsten> Mickmeister: OK.
[01:15] <PoisonArrow> Dr_Willis_, they are on a livecd .iso I have and would like to add a dir to one of the .lzms
[01:15] <karsten> Mickmeister: what does/doesn't work w/ your gfx?
[01:15] <droopsta915> i cant install anything, including the irc x chat (on my laptop)
[01:15] <Dr_Willis_> PoisonArrow,  from what i am reading its a 7zip archive.
[01:15] <telequito> #ubuntu-es
[01:15] <Mickmeister> karsten, what do you mean?
[01:15] <Jordan_U> PoisonArrow: Try asking in #slax
[01:15] <PoisonArrow> Dr_Willis_, oh
[01:16] <thiebaude> danny_:just type in your user name and password and hit enter
[01:16] <PoisonArrow> Jordan_U, ok
[01:16] <karsten> Mickmeister: What I say ;-=)
[01:16] <Mickmeister> karsten, reword please?
[01:16] <krugar> Hello everyone. How do I instruct apt-get to ignore dependencies on a particular package I'm wanting to install?
[01:16] <karsten> Mickmeister: What is working on your display?  Consle?  X?  not enough res?
[01:16] <Jordan_U> PoisonArrow: As far as I can tell though .lzm is just a specifically arranged 7zip archive
[01:16] <danny_> like this? danny ********
[01:16] <Dr_Willis_> PoisonArrow,  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/how-do-i-decompress-lzm-files-586399/
[01:16] <thiebaude> danny_:when you get to the log-in screen?
[01:16] <karsten> krugar: You can force/override deps, but that's generally not a good thing to do.
[01:16] <Mickmeister> karsten, everything is working except enhanced desktop effects.
[01:17] <danny_> thiebaude: there is no login screen
[01:17] <karsten> Mickmeister: compiz?
[01:17] <PoisonArrow> Jordan_U, so I might be able to edit it with z7zip-full?
[01:17] <karsten> Mickmeister: I *think* there may not be 3d support for some cards.
[01:17] <danny_> thiebaude: i'm trying to kill the x server and login without it
[01:17] <lasbuntu> hiya
[01:17] <Mickmeister> Haven't tried. I assume not.
[01:17] <lasbuntu> 8.04, fresh install, windows shares not nshowing up, ideas?
[01:17] <danny_> thiebaude: so that i can install a new driver for my gfx card
[01:17] <Mickmeister> karsten, mine should be fine.
[01:17] <bunnyto> lasbuntu: disable your active directory
[01:18] <Mickmeister> By 3D you mean the cube yeah?
[01:18] <MrKennie> karsten: he is using the vesa driver because I don't think ubuntu supported his chip at the time gutsy was released
[01:18] <comicinker1> when I do:  sudo losetup partfile.part /dev/loop2   I reveive:   ioctl: LOOP_SET_FD: Inappropriate ioctl for device      whats wrong?
[01:18] <Mickmeister> karsten,
[01:18] <lasbuntu> don't have active directory
[01:18] <krugar> karsten, thanks. On this case it's safe. The package in question is a GUI for a series of emulators. The dependencies list tries to install an emulator I'm not wanting to use.
[01:18] <lasbuntu> the old ubuntu install saw them just fine btw
[01:18] <bunnyto> lasbuntu: disable firewalls and antibirus
[01:18] <Jordan_U> PoisonArrow: Yes, you might
[01:18] <lasbuntu> bunny: no firewalls or anti-virus
[01:18] <thiebaude> danny_:re-boot and see if you get a log-in screen--
[01:19] <karsten> MrKennie: Yeah, vesa's not going to give any accel.
[01:19] <bunnyto> lasbuntu: disable windows
[01:19] <karsten> krugar: You can force-override stuff in either aptitude or dpkg, not sure of the exact syntax.  Suggest you RTFM.
[01:20] <lasbuntu> bunny: not an option unfortuantely
[01:20] <lasbuntu> but that's what i'm trying to work towards
[01:20] <karsten> krugar: OTOH, if you just don't want to use it, don't use it ;-)
[01:20] <danny_> thiebaude: do you know what i'm talking about?  i don't want to sound rude but i just said that i'm trying to log in with out an x server running.  i can log in fine no problem with one running
[01:20] <krugar> karsten, thank you. I'll take it from here. Just needed these bearings
[01:20] <karsten> krugar: If the emulator *really* isn't required by the package, file a packaging bug against it since making a recommends a requires is bad practice.
[01:20] <Mickmeister> Does anybody know what the name of the system performance application on the right hand side of this screen shot? http://www.softpedia.com/screenshots/Mandriva-Linux_2.jpg
[01:20] <Jordan_U> danny_: What problem are you having trying to login at a tty?
[01:21] <karsten> Mickmeister: What's lspci say about the card again?
[01:21] <aga^_^> how to fix GRUB Harddisk erro (ubuntu Hardy)
[01:21] <PoisonArrow> how can you change a : Read-only file system?
[01:21] <thiebaude> danny_:yea, i misunderstood, i was thinking log-in,sry
[01:21] <dr_willis> PoisonArrow,  ntfs? linux?  remount it read/write normally..
[01:21] <karsten> Mickmeister: Yeah, trying to remember the name....
[01:21] <karsten> Mickmeister: gkrellm
[01:21] <bunnyto> lasbuntu: disable network
[01:21] <thiebaude> danny_:i dnt know anything about x-server
[01:21] <PoisonArrow> dr_willis, linux , Well its a cd
[01:21] <Mickmeister> karsten, http://www.softpedia.com/screenshots/Mandriva-Linux_2.jpg
[01:22] <dr_willis> PoisonArrow,  see th kiso app perhaps...
[01:22] <dr_willis> !info kiso
[01:22] <thiebaude> !x-server
[01:22] <PoisonArrow> dr_willis, thanks
[01:22] <karsten> Mickmeister: that's gkrellm
[01:22] <danny_> Jordan_U: i'm trying to install a new driver for my gfx card and i need to stop the x server and login without it but whenever i stop the server it just pulls a blank screen with no visible indication that i need to log in
[01:22] <Mickmeister> karsten, oh sorry.
[01:23] <karsten> Mickmeister: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GKrellM
[01:23] <karsten> Mickmeister: http://www.linux.com/feature/32388
[01:23] <Mickmeister> karsten, I didn't copy properly.  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[01:23] <krugar> karsten, good point. Because it isn't in fact. the package is kxmame. It just so happens kxmame supports different emulators... and worst, the emulator under dependencies (xmame) is in fact deprecated, having been replaced by sdlmame
[01:23] <Jordan_U> danny_: Have you tried installing the nvidia drivers from System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers?
[01:23] <bunnyto> lasbuntu: use floppies
[01:23] <karsten> krugar: Bug time.
[01:23] <krugar> karsten, aye
[01:23] <lasbuntu> ok, fixed the drive issue, but now the other problem is back, vlc refuses to play anything over a smb: hare
[01:24] <danny_> Jordan_U: no because i can't use the glx versions
[01:24] <karsten> Mickmeister: FYI, here:  00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
[01:24] <reyrey> Is there a way to check the hardware on the computer while running ubuntu?
[01:24] <danny_> Jordan_U: rather, i don't need them
[01:24] <comicinker1> just mixed input and output ...
[01:24] <Mickmeister> karsten, that's yours?
[01:25] <[biabia]> ok so i got flashplayer working in fedora but its still very choppy play in ubuntu. is that because this machine is really old perhaps? (duron 750)
[01:25] <karsten> Mickmeister: Yeah.
[01:25] <MrKennie> lasbuntu: what error do you get? Sometimes running from a terminal will give lots of useful output and clues as to what is happening.
[01:25] <Mickmeister> karsten, who's is better?
[01:25] <adub> i seen this guy do a demo online of a 3d matrix beryl theme for gnome but i cant find it anywhere
[01:25] <karsten> Mickmeister: Looking at my xorg.conf.  It's pretty minimal, which is what I've been seeing lately -- xorg tends to figure out the configuration on the fly.
[01:25] <alpsy> does anyone have experience with the logitech g15 keyboard and ubuntu? is there a way to use all those special Gkeys+macrorecorder etc with ubuntu?
[01:25] <lasbuntu> mrk: vlc says "unable to open"
[01:25] <Jordan_U> danny_: What do you need? ( You can get to a usable tty by pressing ctrl+alt+F1, but that is not the recommended way of installing the nvidia drives as they will break with every new kernel and xorg update )
[01:25] <karsten> Mickmeister: Well, mine worked w/ compiz/beryl running Suse.  I just installed kubuntu last night.
[01:26] <karsten> Mickmeister: Lenovo T61 BTW.
[01:26] <Dreamglider> reyrey,  System -> Preferences -> System profiler and benchmark
[01:26] <MrKennie> lasbuntu: try running vlc from a terminal and see if you get any output when you attempt to open a file
[01:26] <dr_willis> alpsy,  yes they can be used.. and the lcd..  theres some packages in the repos for them and google for the G15 Linux sourceforge site. it has some info as well
[01:26] <karsten> Mickmeister: Under /var/log/Xorg.0.log:  "LoadModule: "intel" for gfx best I can tell.
[01:27] <reyrey> dreamglider awesome thanks now i just have to get my desktop to turn on.. sucks
[01:27] <lasbuntu> main input error, no suitable access module
[01:27] <alpsy> dr_willis: ah nice, i'll take a look at g15 linux
[01:27] <PoisonArrow> Jordan_U, what would be the command to call z7zip-full?
[01:27] <lasbuntu> ut the built in media player plays over smb just fine
[01:28] <Dreamglider> reyrey,  "start x" i think should do the trix
[01:28] <karsten> Mickmeister: Dunno about 3d, but the GL screensavers are fucking gorgeous.
[01:28] <reyrey> dreamglider what is start x? do i run that in terminal?
[01:28] <Dreamglider> yes
[01:28] <Mickmeister> GL screensavers? Please explain. karsten
[01:28] <HugLeo> I'will make a gui
[01:28] <albuntu> reyrey : type startx in terminal
[01:29] <chaddy> karsten: do they still use a heap of processor power?
[01:29] <karsten> Mickmeister: GL == a graphics library released by SGI.  Very nice 3D effects.  The Mac OSX "flux" is one example.
[01:29] <HugLeo> are there a simple text mode app without gui?
[01:29] <karsten> chaddy: Who cares? ;-)
[01:29] <karsten> HugLeo: Um.  Several.  For what?
[01:29] <chaddy> karsten: my girlfriend, makes the fans go, she can't hear the telly
[01:30] <chaddy> karsten: seen electricsheep?
[01:30] <karsten> chaddy: Who needs a grilf when you've got 3D pr0n? ;-)
[01:30] <HugLeo> karsten, Make a GUI.
[01:30] <karsten> chaddy: esheep rawks.  That's not all that gfx intensive.
[01:30] <Dreamglider> L0L
[01:30] <HugLeo> *do
[01:30] <Jordan_U> PoisonArrow: 7z
[01:30] <PoisonArrow> Jordan_U, thanks
[01:30] <lasbuntu> when I try to use VLC over an smb share I get main input error, no suitable access module
[01:30] <karsten> HugLeo: A GUI for what?
[01:30] <chaddy> pretty though
[01:30] <Jordan_U> PoisonArrow: np
[01:30] <reyrey> dreamglider and albuntu i get error running startx on terminal says can't run command even in sudo
[01:31] <thiebaude> hugleo:build it from scratch?
[01:31] <karsten> chaddy: Yeah, I can watch that for hours.  Best screensaver's a blank screen.
[01:31] <HugLeo> thiebaude, yes
[01:31] <karsten> chaddy: ... from a pwer PoV.
[01:31] <MrKennie> lasbuntu: Do you know if vlc is capable of playing that file?
[01:31] <albuntu> reyrey : what is the exact error you get
[01:31] <chaddy> indeed
[01:31] <lasbuntu> yes, if I download it locally it plays
[01:31] <albuntu> paste it in pastebin
[01:31] <dr_willis> lasbuntu,  you may need to mount the samba share manually, or use that fusesmb tool to mount it..  the gnomes file manager/share browser may not send vlc the proper url/path/info
[01:31] <MrKennie> lasbuntu: how are you opening it?
[01:31] <albuntu> !pastebin | reyrey
[01:32] <HugLeo> thiebaude, I need know a simple text mode application
[01:32] <karsten> HugLeo: WTF is your question?  What text-mode app are you looking for?
[01:32] <comicinker1> karsten: dd if=/dev/zero of=filePart.part bs=1000k count=1000 && losetup /dev/loop0 filePart.part && partimage restore /dev/loop0 image.img.gz && mount /dev/loop0 /mnt
[01:32] <lasbuntu> al: I tried that, but it refused to mount saying I only had read access
[01:32] <karsten> HugLeo: vim, w3m, top, irssi
[01:32] <alpsy> dr_willis: for g15 support, is the project you meant G15tools?
[01:32] <karsten> comicinker1: Success?
[01:32] <comicinker1> yes
[01:32] <user01> everytime i run firefox, audio wont play on my audio player
[01:32] <karsten> comicinker1: There you go ;-)
[01:32] <dr_willis> alpsy,  i think thats part of it. theres like 4 parts. the deamon, the tools, and some gui/lcdproc tools
[01:32] <lasbuntu> er r not al
[01:32] <HugLeo> karsten, I know a GUI to vim :). I need a application without GUI.
[01:33] <dr_willis> alpsy,  i could get the lcd working with just the default things int he ubuntu repositories.. i dont recall trying the Macro Keys
[01:33] <dr_willis> !info vim-nox
[01:33] <dr_willis> vim-nox = the text based vim :)
[01:33] <thiebaude> hugleo:you want to type in a terminal command to run  a program?
[01:33] <Jordan_U> HugLeo: vim can be and normally is run from a terminal
[01:33] <reyrey> albuntu i can't get terminal to run anymore after i ran that command
[01:34] <HugLeo> thiebaude, yes
[01:34] <karsten> HugLeo: So, what you're trying to say but are failing miserably to communicate is:  is there an existing console-mode app w/o a GUI for which I could code a GUI as a programming project?
[01:34] <albuntu> reyrey : what do you get ?
[01:34] <MrKennie> lasbuntu: my guess is it does not understand smb:/
[01:34] <HugLeo> karsten, yes
[01:34] <comicinker1> karsten: thanks ;)
[01:34] <karsten> HugLeo: Who the fuck cares.  Just pick something you feel like working on.
[01:34] <meyos> hello, im having trouble installing anything, im getting errors like W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com
[01:34] <karsten> meyos: Got network?
[01:35] <reyrey> i go to run terminal and nothing happens and the error i got was telling me that i can't check system since im on it the exact verbage is what i wanted to copy and paste but can't get terminal up anymore
[01:35] <HugLeo> karsten, ;-)
[01:35] <meyos> karston: yes
[01:35] <kitche> !language | karsten
[01:35] <karsten> kitche: Yeah, yeah ;-)
[01:35] <lasbuntu> can 8.04 hanle a gpt volume over 2tb?
[01:36] <karsten> kitche: I'm a Debian user, what do you expect ;-)
[01:36] <reyrey> albuntu im also trying to run system monitor but that won't run either..
[01:36] <reyrey> might need to restart the computer
[01:36] <thiebaude> haha,karsten
[01:36] <meyos> i cant update anything! i dont know what to do
[01:36] <albuntu> reyrey : reboot then
[01:37] <WDC> Hello
[01:37] <WDC> I am having some problems with Bittorrent in CLI on Ubuntu Server
[01:37] <lasbuntu> I keep trying to mount this thing and it just says "wrong fs type"
[01:37] <meyos> i can get up dates, but i have to copy the path and paste it into firefox to fetch the up date
[01:37] <bunnyto> Installing WOW
[01:37] <MrKennie> lasbuntu: what thing?
[01:38] <karsten> lasbuntu: What thing?
[01:38] <lasbuntu> this smb volume nfor vlc
[01:38] <karsten> MrKennie: Feh.
[01:38] <lasbuntu> it's an ntfs/gpt volume, 5tb
[01:38] <karsten> lasbuntu: How?
[01:38] <thiebaude> !vim
[01:38] <karsten> lasbuntu: ... command and error output?
[01:38] <meyos> i will paste bin to see if anyone can help, be back
[01:38] <Mickmeister> MrKennie, updating hasn't solved the issue.
[01:38] <Jordan_U> lasbuntu: How are you trying to mount it?
[01:38] <lasbuntu> mount remote local with several misc switches, and the error is always "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on smb://server/e"
[01:39] <MrKennie> Mickmeister: can you repost your /var/log/Xorg.0.log please :)
[01:39] <WDC> I am constantly getting these errors in Bittorrent in CLI on Ubuntu server
[01:39] <WDC> http://pastebin.ca/1225502
[01:39] <bunnyto> WDC: use azureus
[01:40] <losher> !dvdrip
[01:40] <WDC> bunnyto: Is the CLI good?
[01:40] <bunnyto> WDC: try it, i do use
[01:40] <HugLeo> thiebaude, Jordan_U karmabase: thanks
[01:40] <danbh_intrepid> WDC: there is also transmission, which is the default
[01:40] <MrKennie> lasbuntu: smbfs or cifs should do it.
[01:40] <Mickmeister> MrKennie, http://pastebin.ca/1225475
[01:40] <thiebaude> yw,hugleo
[01:40] <WDC> Yall
[01:41] <losher> Anyone using dvdrip around?
[01:41] <julian> 2.0.2 on 8.10
[01:41] <WDC> This is a server installation, I have no GUI
[01:41] <DarkCharlie> Does anyone know why my Terminal is freezing up?
[01:41] <WDC> bunnyto: DOES azerous have a CLI?
[01:41] <DarkCharlie> It happens randomly.
[01:41] <julian> how do you enable usb on virtualbox 2.0.2 on 8.10
[01:41] <bunnyto> WDC: maybe
[01:41] <Jordan_U> WDC: rtorrent
[01:41] <meyos> here is the error im getting http://paste.ubuntu.com/56847/
[01:41] <WDC> julian: Must get the closed source one
[01:41] <MrKennie> Mickmeister: argh, it's still on vesa, can you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf too
[01:41] <julian> i did
[01:41] <WDC> So did anyone look at the erros I pastebinned?
[01:42] <julian> i followed the guided to modify /etc/init.d/mountdevsubfs.sh
[01:42] <julian> content to modify doesnt exist
[01:42] <lasbuntu> it just gives me the exact same error with any switch, mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on smb://server/e,
[01:42] <WDC> julian: I haven't really played with it, but I know the option is there
[01:42] <Mickmeister> MrKennie, http://pastebin.ca/1225505
[01:42] <HugLeo> Thanks y'all :)
[01:42] <julian> anyone know how to enable usb
[01:43] <bunnyto> julian: its enabled
[01:43] <DarkCharlie> Hey guys, I don't mean to interrupt, but my Terminal keeps freezing up.
[01:43]  * HugLeo is learning!
[01:43] <julian> its not
[01:43] <bunnyto> julian: it is
[01:44] <meoblast001> hi
[01:44] <julian> no its not
[01:44] <julian> i just added a filter and my usb device wasnt listed
[01:44] <meoblast001> how can i get Xsane to stop complaining about I/O errors on network scanners
[01:44] <MrKennie> Mickmeister: you need to edit the last file I asked you to paste
[01:45] <Mickmeister> MrKennie, in what way?
[01:45] <bunnyto> anyone tried Age of Conan on Ubuntu?
[01:45] <MrKennie> Mickmeister: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:46] <DarkCharlie> What is the difference between regular sudo and gksudo?
[01:46] <MrKennie> Mickmeister: do that in a terminal
[01:46] <Mickmeister> MrKennie, what do you need me to edit?
[01:46] <meyos> can anyone look at this please http://paste.ubuntu.com/56847/
[01:46] <chaddy> DarkCharlie: gksudo throws up a graphical password box
[01:46] <MrKennie> Mickmeister: find Section "Device"
[01:46] <chaddy> DarkCharlie: sudo is on the command line
[01:46] <DarkCharlie> Oh, thank you.
[01:46] <Mickmeister> Okay
[01:46] <chaddy> no worries
[01:47] <danbh_intrepid> DarkCharlie: gksudo is more suited to graphical apps, sudo can break things with graphical apps
[01:47] <MrKennie> Mickmeister: change Driver from vesa to intel
[01:47] <DarkCharlie> Oh.
[01:47] <Mickmeister> MrKennie, and then do what? Save and reboot?
[01:47] <MrKennie> Mickmeister: yea, play it safe
[01:48] <DarkCharlie> Can somebody help me with my Terminal? It freezes up after a while along with a few of the games that came with Ubuntu.
[01:48] <MrKennie> Mickmeister: it's not required to reboot, you can restart your X server but rebooting is easiest.
[01:48] <Jordan_U> meyos: Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[01:48] <HugLeo> bye bye by today.
[01:48] <karsten> chaddy: CPU usage isn't too bad, load of about .3 running Euphoria GL screensaver.
[01:48] <Mickmeister> Command to restart xserver?
[01:48] <karsten> chaddy: Core duo.
[01:48] <albuntu> Mickmeister : startx
[01:48] <chaddy> ta, karsten, might see about using them a bit more
[01:49] <albuntu> Mickmeister : sorry ctrl + alt + backspace
[01:49] <bunnyto> Mickmeister: ctrl + alt + backspace
[01:49] <MrKennie> Mickmeister: if you logout I think gdm has a restart X option, I don't use Gnome *blush*
[01:49] <Pik9> hi
[01:49] <MrKennie> ctrl+alt+backspace is not recommended
[01:49] <bunnyto> lawl
[01:49] <thiebaude> !cli
[01:49] <albuntu> MrKennie : why is that ?
[01:50] <MrKennie> albuntu: I have heard it can lead to memory leaks and all sort of trouble.
 DarkCharlie: gksudo is more suited to graphical apps, sudo can break things with graphical apps
[01:50] <HugLeo> DarkCharlie, why?
[01:50] <albuntu> MrKennie : thanks :) i'll never do it again
[01:50] <Mickmeister> MrKennie, genius.
[01:50] <Mickmeister> MrKennie, I'm impressed. Thank you very much.
[01:51] <DarkCharlie> HugLeo: I was just curious about the difference.
[01:51] <thiebaude> !sudo
[01:51] <MrKennie> Mickmeister: all working?
[01:52] <DarkCharlie> What should I do about my Terminal and whatnot freezing up?
[01:52] <m3thod> how would i convert .html to .doc?
[01:52] <Mickmeister> MrKennie, one final thing. How do I go about getting the fancy effects? Just get the beryl package? Yeah they are!
[01:52] <meyos> jordan_U: here is the sources.list --http://paste.ubuntu.com/56850/
[01:52] <MrKennie> Mickmeister: I think you just need to enable desktop effects
[01:53] <chaddy> Mickmeister: you can install compizconfig-settings-manager to tweak them
[01:53] <chaddy> but for the basics just enable them under preferences>appearance
[01:54] <Mickmeister> Thanks Chaddy
[01:54] <rsfriends> hello every 1
[01:54] <HugLeo> hello!
[01:54] <MrKennie> Mickmeister: hopefully you're in business :)
[01:54] <DarkCharlie> What should I do? :P
[01:54] <chaddy> Mickmeister: :)
[01:54] <Jordan_U> !beryl | Mickmeister
[01:55] <rsfriends> when i  am trying to install something for add/remove i get this error "E: ircd-irc2: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 255
[01:55] <rsfriends> "
[01:56] <bruenig> I think the post-install script had an error which caused it to return and exit status of 255
[01:56] <bruenig> an*
[01:56] <rsfriends> when i  am trying to install something for add/remove i get this error "E: ircd-irc2: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 255" what can i do?
[01:56] <karsten> rsfriends: Run the script manually and see what happens.
[01:57] <rsfriends> how do i do that ?
[01:57] <karsten> rsfriends: Usually:  out of space or read-only filesystem or conflict files.
[01:57] <bruenig> you can't really "run the script manually" it is a script contained within the deb, unless you propose he run it from the /var thing
[01:57] <bruenig> what is probably happening is this post-installation script in true ubuntu incompetence is trying to run the daemon
[01:57] <karsten> rsfriends: /var/lib/dpkg/info/ircd-irc2.postinst
[01:57] <bruenig> and the daemon is not successfully launching
[01:58] <karsten> bruenig: That's what I'm proposing ;-)
[01:58] <bruenig> well that isn't terribly helpful
[01:58] <DarkCharlie> Heh, what should I do about my Terminal?
[01:58] <jerome1232> I'm getting this bizarre behavior, basically I just backup my home partition using rsync to another computer on the network. I reinstalled the OS on this computer and then restored my home via rsync. When I try and execute pSX it tells me that the executable doesn't exist yet I can ls -l it, I can move it around and etc. Here is some example code showing what is going on. I redownloaded the archive and am getting the sa
[01:58] <jerome1232> me problem.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/56851/
[01:59] <karsten> bruenig: I disagree, but that's just me.
[01:59] <thiebaude> rsfriends:if you cant install from add-remove just install from synaptic or sudo apt-get
[01:59] <karsten> rsfriends: Might try running 'bash -x' on that script to see whta specifically is runnign and/or failing.
[01:59] <rsfriends> i did try from sudo apt-get, i still get that problem
[01:59] <thiebaude> rsfriends:what about synaptic?
[02:00] <DarkCharlie> Is there any way to stop my Terminal to stop freezing?
[02:00] <meyos> can i get missing restrictions using the ubuntu disk?
[02:00] <rsfriends> i havent try sunpatic
[02:00] <rsfriends> i will try that now
[02:00] <bitfrost> Hi, I have trouble installing ISPCONFIG stable on UbuntuHardy 8.04 server, I followed Howtoforge perfect server and not installed anything
[02:00] <thiebaude> hope it works,rsfriends
[02:00] <rsfriends> ok thx
[02:00] <thiebaude> yw
[02:01] <Mickmeister> MrKennie, some effects don't work.
[02:01] <MrKennie> Mickmeister: that doesn't surprise me.
[02:01] <meyos> i dont want to reinstall can anyone see this pastebin-http://paste.ubuntu.com/56850/
[02:01] <bitfrost> something that I am missing maybe, anyone got a trouble lime mine?
[02:01] <Mickmeister> MrKennie, why not?
[02:02] <bitfrost> lime/like
[02:02] <MrKennie> Mickmeister: because DE is still a bit unstable IMO
[02:02] <rsfriends> sorry m8 but i still get that problem
[02:03] <MrKennie> Mickmeister: what sort of effect isn't working anyway?
[02:03] <thiebaude> rsfriends:what are you trying to install?
[02:03] <rsfriends> x sensor
[02:03] <rsfriends> i cant evern update my ubuntu;(
[02:03] <thiebaude> rsfriends:i don't know anything about scripts, wish i knew
[02:03] <meoblast001> how do you change what hosts xsane can connect to?
[02:03] <thiebaude> rsfriends:update?
[02:04] <rsfriends> ok np m8 thx for helping me any way
[02:04] <bundo> hi nurimbo  ^^
[02:04] <Mickmeister> MrKennie, desktop cube, rain, fire. Basically the more advanced ones.
[02:04] <thiebaude> rsfriends:update to 8.10?
[02:04] <rsfriends> when i trying to use   update mananger i get that problem to
[02:04] <nurimbo> bundo Hi
[02:04] <MrKennie> Mickmeister: I see
[02:04] <rsfriends> no i am not going to update to 8.10
[02:05] <nacitar> I installed kubuntu 8.04 x64, and now when I get to the boot screen (with the progress bar and logo) it will most of the time just sit there looping the progress bar until finally dropping me to a busybox prompt without any error message
[02:05] <nacitar> If I keep trying to boot several times, eventually it boots up real quickly, just fine.  Can't figure out why it boots sometimes and not others. =/
[02:06] <MrKennie> Mickmeister: install mesa-utils package and run glxgears from a terminal. Should give a basic indication if at least 3d is working.
[02:06] <rsfriends> what can i do since my update mananger dont work ;(
[02:07] <thiebaude> rsfriends:sudo apt-get update-manager
[02:07] <rsfriends> i will try that
[02:07] <DarkCharlie> What should I do to stop my Terminal from freezing?
[02:07] <thiebaude> ok, rsfriends, let me know if it works
[02:08] <Mickmeister> MrKennie, they work fine.
[02:08] <Babam> How to I integrate the terminal into my desktop with gnome?
[02:08] <MrKennie> Mickmeister: OK, all should be good, then.
[02:09] <thiebaude> babam:you want a terminal icon?
[02:09] <Babam> thiebaude: no, I have seen people with desktops that literally have the terminal merged with their desktop
[02:09] <Babam> thiebaude: or at least that efffect
[02:09] <vdepizzol> Hello. After the last system update in intrepid, my sound card is not working anymore. it's getting a metallic sound. What can I do to restore the last settings?
[02:10] <rsfriends> sorry it dont work
[02:10] <thiebaude> babam:i seen that before
[02:10] <jjie> i need to know how to install Quake 3 on linux im farly new so bar with me.
[02:10] <Babam> thiebaude: hmm
[02:10] <Jordan_U> vdepizzol: #ubuntu+1 for help testing intrepid
[02:10] <thiebaude> darn, rsfriends
[02:10] <rsfriends> i cant even update, install, from synpatic, add-remove or from sudo apt-get install
[02:10] <Mickmeister> MrKennie, exactly what I thought.
[02:10] <thiebaude> rsfriends:re-install?
[02:11] <jjie> i need to know how to install Quake 3 on linux im farly new so bar with me.
[02:11] <thiebaude> rsfriends:with the live cd
[02:11] <rsfriends> when i am trying to re install thing its dont work
[02:11] <ewebuntwo> Hi - I try a mount command to be able to read a Windows share under samba but I just get a syntax dump from the mount cmd, the cmd looks like mount -t smbfs -o username=mywindowsid,password=windowspw //192.168.1.234/sharename
[02:11] <jjie> i need to know how to install Quake 3 on linux im farly new so bare with me.
[02:12] <meyos> why is hardy main restricted on my system?
[02:12] <jjie> no help ?
[02:12] <jjie> no help ?
[02:12] <MrKennie> Mickmeister: well, it's more than you hd before. Maybe wait and see how well Intrepid works for you at the end of the month? :)
[02:12] <kitche> jjie: id actually has a guide on how to install quake 3 on linux and please don't repeat so fast
[02:12] <Babam> Any have any idea how to do this?
[02:12] <Babam> *any one
[02:12] <kitche> jjie: just look up Quake 3 on Linux
[02:12] <jjie> i have tried kitche
[02:13] <jjie> no working.
[02:13] <jjie> period.
[02:13] <thiebaude> babam:is this it:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202249&highlight=terminal+desktop
[02:13] <thiebaude> darn babam left
[02:14] <DarkCharlie> What should I do about my Terminal and whatnot freezing up?
[02:14] <mandelum> Hello! Why do I not see the Task Time Tracking appliation on the Panel in Ubuntu 8.10 although it should be included in GNOME 2.24. And how can I get this funtionality? What is this panel application called?
[02:14] <kitche> DarkCharlie: don't use the terminal try a different one like xterm or something like that
[02:14] <Jordan_U> DarkCharlie: In what way does it freeze up? Does it happen with certain commands?
[02:14] <kitche> DarkCharlie: could be just that terminal doesn't like your machine I know of one that I don't use since it does that to me
[02:15] <Jordan_U> !intrepid | mandelum
[02:15] <DarkCharlie> Kitche, Jordan: Well, it's not really just Terminal, it's some of the games that comes with Ubuntu.
[02:15] <kitche> mandelum: #ubuntu+1 for help with 8.10
[02:15] <Leefmc> Question: I have a dual boot setup with windows and ubuntu (main os), well i'd like my windows partition to show up in ubuntu's drive display, so i can pull files off of windows if needed. Is there anyway i can do this without formatting ubuntu?
[02:15] <mandelum> kitche: thanks!!
[02:15] <hasanibrahim> i wahi
[02:15] <hasanibrahim> hi
[02:16] <hasanibrahim> whehow can i stop closing display(monitor) while there is nobody at pc
[02:16] <DarkCharlie> Kitche, Jordan: Also when it happens, I lose sound from Youtube Videos.
[02:16] <kitche> Leefmc: do you mean have it auto mount? which it should do automatically really
[02:16] <hasanibrahim> how can i stop closing display(monitor) while there is nobody at pc
[02:16] <danny_> is anyone able to watch videos on nbc.com?
[02:16] <kitche> danny_: think you need moonlight to watch nbc.com videos
[02:16] <hasanibrahim> please..
[02:16] <hasanibrahim> how can i stop closing display(monitor) while there is nobody at pc
[02:17] <danny_> kitche: thanks
[02:17] <unlink> wow, apport is *incredibly* annoying
[02:17] <Jordan_U> DarkCharlie: What happens exactly, can you give one example?
[02:17] <Leefmc> kitche: Not sure on the proper terminology. But for example, when i go to computer:///, there is no windows partition shown
[02:17] <kitche> danny_: not sure if moonlight is released or not yet though
[02:17] <hasanibrahim> how can i stop closing display(monitor) while there is nobody at pc at ubuntu??
[02:17] <meyos> i dont want to reinstall can anyone see this pastebin-http://paste.ubuntu.com/56850/
[02:17] <danbh_intrepid> danny_: try hulu.com
[02:17] <DarkCharlie> Jordan: Well, it happens randomly. I happen to open up Terminal and it doesn't show any prompt at all, it just freezes.
[02:17] <kitche> !repeat | hasanibrahim
[02:18] <unlink> not only does it use hundreds of megabytes without asking, and peg my cpu for minutes at a time, but it also pops up whenever anything returns an error status code, wtf?
[02:18] <danbh_intrepid> meyos: I see the pastebin
[02:18] <alanbshepard77> Can anyone tell me why my laptop screen keeps dimming with Ubuntu? Yes i've checked power settings, I'm not on battery power, i'm not idle, no my laptops function key doesn't help at all, it's a software key not hardware. I've googled the issue and searched the issue but have found nothing that helps me.
[02:19] <BriteLeaf> Where in Ubuntu are my video config settings at? Every time I try to install the drivers, when I reboot it goes out of range and I get a black screen
[02:19] <danbh_intrepid> unlink: wrong chat?
[02:19] <unlink> no
[02:19] <unlink> it's an ubuntu application
[02:19] <meyos> danbh_intrepid: do you know what i can do to fix the problem?
[02:19] <Leefmc> kitche: Any idea?
[02:19] <danbh_intrepid> unlink: I didnt see your previous message, whats the app?
[02:19] <unlink> apport
[02:19] <danbh_intrepid> meyos: whats the problem?
[02:19] <kitche> Leefmc: check if there is a drive in /media
[02:19] <danbh_intrepid> unlink: what version are you using?
[02:19] <DarkCharlie> Jordan: What should I do? :P
[02:20] <unlink> 0.117
[02:20] <bpat1434> I've got 3 monitors, but I'm using nvidia-glx-new drivers, do I need to manually configure x or is there an nvidia x-config that works with the new glx drivers?
[02:20] <Leefmc> kitche: cdrom0 and 1
[02:20] <meyos> danbh_intrepid:i cant update or install any apps
[02:20] <Leefmc> kitche: Erm, cdrom and cdrom0
[02:20] <danny_> kitche: it is, i'm about to install it once wine is done
[02:20] <danbh_intrepid> unlink: of ubuntu, are you using 8.10?
[02:20] <unlink> danbh_intrepid: yes
[02:20] <danbh_intrepid> meyos: can you pastebin the error you get when you try to install apps?
[02:20] <kitche> Leefmc: named Windows or something along those lines if not we need to do some editting to /etc/fstab if you want an auto mount
[02:20] <danbh_intrepid> !intrepid | unlink
[02:20] <danny_> is there any way to make it so there is no exclusive lock?
[02:21] <maynards-girl> i've been trying to change my resolution but it's still at 800x600, what other guide/walkthroughs/tutorials would you recommend for 8.04?
[02:21] <Leefmc> kitche: What would i need to do?
[02:21] <eeenico> guys I have a problem overclocking my eeepc
[02:21] <kitche> Leefmc: do this sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak
[02:21] <srpenney> I have just installed Ubuntu desktop (8.04.1) on a PC.  In said PC I have a PCI raid card (promise TX2300) with two 500GB drives configured as a RAID1 array.  The drives in the raid array are partitioned into three partitions (200GB, 200GB and 100GB).  I would expect to see, in my Nautilus window, three drives (in addition to the normal drives present).  What I am seeing though is two instances of each partition.
[02:22] <alanbshepard77> how do I keep my computer from going to screensaver when I'm playing a full screen game? The game uses the keyboard and not the mouse.
[02:22] <eeenico> that command line is problematic ; sudo modprobe eee, nothing happens zhen I type that
[02:22] <Leefmc> kitche: K, next?
[02:22] <BriteLeaf> Where in Ubuntu are my video config settings at? Every time I try to install the drivers, when I reboot it goes out of range and I get a black screen. Anyone?
[02:22] <DarkCharlie> Jordan: When it happens, not everything freezes up. I noticed that my Web Browser, Opera, still works. When I try to delete something though, the prompt doesn't respond.
[02:22] <kitche> Leefmc: just in case you mess up then do this gksu gedit /etc/fstab and enter your password and should bring up /etc/fstab now here is the fun part you need to add a line to this file but first you need to find out which partition has the Windows installed on with fdisk -l
[02:22] <meyos> danbh_intrepid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/56857/
[02:23] <bunnyto> srpenney: your interface is not supported
[02:23] <kitche> Leefmc: try and find the partiton that is formatted ntfs
[02:23] <MrKennie> DarkCharlie: does it start working again after a couple of minutes?
[02:23] <danbh_intrepid> meyos: can you paste your /etc/hosts??
[02:23] <DarkCharlie> MrKennie: No, it stays frozen until I restart my computer.
[02:23] <Leefmc> kitche: Hmm.. is that an "L"? (lowercase) Because fdisk -l brings up nothing
[02:24] <kitche> Leefmc: yeah you might need to sudo fdisk -l actually
[02:24] <eeenico> guys, I can't overclock my eeepc folowing the ubuntu documentation, ﻿that command line is problematic ; sudo modprobe eee, nothing happens zhen I type that
[02:24] <kitche> eeenico: nothing is suppose to happen
[02:24] <eeenico> ?
[02:24] <Leefmc> kitche: Weird, k, looks like its /dev/sda1
[02:25] <MrKennie> DarkCharlie: does it work to start with or just hangs straight away?
[02:25] <eeenico> when I open an other terminal to 'cpufreq-info' it says driver not there
[02:25] <srpenney> bunnyto: I had a previous install on a much older PC that I was able to get up and running (I had to come here and people gave me a hand in installing a few things I needed).  This was on an older version of Ubuntu.  This version seems better because it picked up the card without me having to install anything.  The other one wouldn't see anything and I had to install a few things.  Unfortunately I didn't write do
[02:25] <DarkCharlie> MrKennie: Well, it hangs straight away
[02:26] <MrKennie> DarkCharlie: are you able to start xterm?
[02:26] <kitche> Leefmc: ok now add this to /etc/fstab /dev/sda1 /media/windows ntfs-3g ro 0 0
[02:26] <eeenico> kitche, what am I doing wrong
[02:26] <bunnyto> srpenney: yep, the modules are reading your interface wrongly, raid0?
[02:26] <danbh_intrepid> meyos: do you have pastebinit installed?
[02:26] <srpenney> bunnyto: raid 1 is what I've configured in the PCI cards bios.
[02:27] <srpenney> I don't know how to check how the interface is read though.  Is there a terminal command I can use
[02:27] <srpenney> ?
[02:27] <kitche> eeenico: no clue don't overclock myself
[02:27] <bunnyto> srpenney: try with raid0 first and see what happens
[02:27] <eeenico> but what do you mean 'nothing is supposed to happen'?
[02:27] <DarkCharlie> MrKennie: I don't know what xterm is. :P
[02:27] <meyos> yes
[02:27] <Leefmc> kitche: To the end?
[02:27] <srpenney> bunnyto: There's already information that I don't want to lose.
[02:27] <kitche> Leefmc: yes below the last line you put that
[02:27] <danbh_intrepid> meyos: the just run: pastebinit /etc/hosts
[02:27] <kitche> Leefmc: the ro is for readonly
[02:28] <MrKennie> DarkCharlie: you can use the run dialog. Just type xterm in the run dialog and you will get a terminal
[02:28] <Leefmc> kitche: Nice
[02:28] <bunnyto> srpenney: backup ASAP
[02:28] <Leefmc> kitche: And then restart x?
[02:28] <Leefmc> kitche: Or is a full reboot needed for this
[02:29] <eeenico> kitche, what do you mean 'nothing is supposed to happen', I can't type commands after that line, whatever I type is not executed
[02:29] <DarkCharlie> MrKennie: Oh, I see. How would I be able to run that without Terminal though?
[02:29] <bunnyto> Raids are the safest way to loss information!!
[02:29] <lirui0073> hi, update my system comes some error: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/util-linux_2.13.1-5ubuntu3_i386.deb: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[02:31] <kitche> Leefmc: nope just do a sudo mount -a and hope no errors happen
[02:31] <kitche> eeenico: well if it didn't return you to a prompt then either it's still loading the module or something happened
[02:31] <Leefmc> kitche: Says line 12 is bad heh
[02:31] <srpenney> bunnyto: I don't have enough free space to make a backup (without using the 500GB drives that make up the array).  I seem to recall the drives had to have something special installed to work (I wish I could be more clear but I really can't).
[02:31] <DarkCharlie> MrKennie: Would the freezing be due to my Video Driver or my flash plugin that I use?
[02:31] <srpenney> bunnyto: thanks for the patience BTW
[02:31] <eeenico> the ressource moonitor doesn't show any sign of work
[02:32] <meyos> im reinstallig, hope it works, lol
[02:32] <kitche> Leefmc: yeah probably that line you added can you pastebin what you write exactly
[02:32] <BriteLeaf> Where in Ubuntu are my video config settings at? Every time I try to install the drivers, when I reboot it goes out of range and I get a black screen. Anyone?
[02:32] <DarkCharlie> MrKennie: Because I notice that when it does freeze up, I lose sound from youtube videos
[02:32] <MrKennie> DarkCharlie: if it only happens with terminal then I doubt it.
[02:32] <Leefmc> kitche: I copied yours
[02:32] <MrKennie> DarkCharlie: do you mean your computer hangs or the application "Terminal"
[02:32] <kitche> Leefmc: yes but you might have did something odd
[02:33] <bunnyto> srpenney: try liveCD to see whether detects the raid
[02:33] <DarkCharlie> MrKennie: Well, Terminal isn't the only thing that hangs, a few of the games that came with Ubuntu hangs. My browser still works fine.
[02:33] <Leefmc> kitche: k one sec
[02:33] <srpenney> bunnyto: Will do.
[02:33] <Leefmc> kitche:  http://dpaste.com/84048/
[02:33] <DarkCharlie> MrKennie: Also, when all that hangs, I notice that when I try to delete something, the delete prompt doesn't respond.
[02:34] <bunnyto> srpenney: yeah its a problem with the modules, some models are not well supported
[02:34] <MrKennie> DarkCharlie: do you run any other operating systems on this computer?
[02:34] <DarkCharlie> MrKennie: No, I don't.
[02:34] <MrKennie> DarkCharlie: have you previously?
[02:34] <MrKennie> DarkCharlie: other than ubuntu
[02:34] <DarkCharlie> MrKennie: Yeah, I've had Windows XP
[02:34] <kitche> Leefmc: why do you have /etc/fstab inside your /etc/fstab :)
[02:35] <Scunizi> How do you erase a cd-rw disk?
[02:35] <Leefmc> kitche: haha
[02:35] <eeenico> kitche; the processor isn't loading anything and the terminal is bringing me to a blank line
[02:35] <srpenney> bunnyto: is liveCD the main CD I downloaded from ubuntu.com.  I followed the links for the main desktop installation.
[02:35] <Leefmc> kitche: Imma go sit in the corner with my dunce cap, leave me alone.
[02:35] <Leefmc> kitche: ;)
[02:35] <MrKennie> DarkCharlie: has it always done this with ubuntu or only recently?
[02:35] <srpenney> bunnyto: Fits (just) on a full CD
[02:35] <albuntu> my tray icons are not showing. anyone that can help ? tray is ok but icons are not showing , like volume , networking , etc
[02:35] <lirui0073> hi, update my system comes some error: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/util-linux_2.13.1-5ubuntu3_i386.deb: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1.
[02:35] <lirui0073> How do I get rid of/correct the synaptic error?
[02:35] <Leefmc> kitche: I did think that was weird though, since it didnt match anything else in the file. loi
[02:35] <DarkCharlie> MrKennie: Well, it didn't do it with 7.10. It started recently with 8.04
[02:36] <karex> HI,
[02:36] <Rybaxs> k
[02:36] <eeenico> anyone ever overclocked an eeepc here?
[02:36] <karex> HI, i've installed kubuntu-desktop
[02:36] <karex> HI, i've installed kubuntu-desktop; how to switch to kdm?
[02:36] <eeenico> ctrl alt backspace and choose session type
[02:37] <bunnyto> srpenney: yeah its the first option i think
[02:37] <MrKennie> DarkCharlie: is it hanging now?
[02:37] <Leefmc> kitche: New failure, fuse: failed to access mountpoint /media/windows: No such file or directory
[02:37] <DarkCharlie> MrKennie: Not now it isn't, I just reinstalled.
[02:37] <minimec> karex: I guess sudo apt-get install kdm will propose you to uninstall gdm...
[02:37] <MrKennie> DarkCharlie: oh :)
[02:37] <srpenney> bunnyto: and to use it to pick up the card do I just dump it in while running or do I boot from CD?
[02:37] <eeenico> karex; ctrl alt backspace then choose session type
[02:37] <bpat1434> anyone?  configure 3 monitors using nvidia-glx-new?  Can it be done via GUI or do I have to do it manually?
[02:37] <kitche> Leefmc: sudo mkdir /media/windows
[02:38] <eeenico> does anyone know how to overclock the eeepc
[02:38] <bunnyto> srpenney: just boot with the 1st option
[02:38] <BriteLeaf> Where in Ubuntu are my video config settings at? Every time I try to install the drivers, when I reboot it goes out of range and I get a black screen. Anyone?
[02:38] <Leefmc> kitche: Worked like a charm, thank you kind sir!
[02:38] <zetheroo-ubuntu> is libqt4-opengl-dev in any of the Ubuntu repos?
[02:38] <karex> eeenico: did u mean session? i mean login manager:)
[02:38] <eeenico> oh
[02:39] <zetheroo-ubuntu> ?
[02:39] <karex> minimec: i'
[02:39] <bpat1434> BriteLeaf, /etc/X11/xorg.conf I believe
[02:39] <karex> minimec: i've kdm
[02:39] <MrKennie> DarkCharlie: if it happens again try ctrl+alt+F1 and login, then type dmesg > dmesg.log and then press alt+F7 to get yourself back to your desktop and then you can pastebin dmesg.log which might help someone helping you.
[02:39] <srpenney> bunnyto: Does this mean that I have to re-install everything or can I just add the modules to the existing install this way?
[02:39] <eeenico> karex; I don't really know =)
[02:39] <karex> minimec: i've kdm installed
[02:39] <DarkCharlie> MrKennie: Ok, thanks. :)
[02:39] <BriteLeaf> thanks bpat. I will see if I can fix it there
[02:39] <Leefmc> kitche: On a side note, i've been told that learning best comes from experience.. but i rarely need to do this kind of stuff and am often left in awe as to how linux does.. everything in terms of mounting, places to find files, etc. Are there any books you'd suggest to get a lot of this useful linux information?
[02:40] <Frogzoo> !docs > Leefmc
[02:40] <Leefmc> !docs
[02:40] <Leefmc> !docs > Leefmc
[02:40] <Leefmc> Frogzoo: K thanks
[02:40] <geodome> hi. my xfce taskbar disappeared
[02:40] <eeenico> ﻿guys, I can't overclock my eeepc folowing the ubuntu documentation, ﻿that command line is problematic ; sudo modprobe eee, nothing happens zhen I type that
[02:40] <kitche> Leefmc: just general linux books don't touch any of the distro ones
[02:40] <geodome> how to make them reappear/
[02:41] <Frogzoo> Leefmc: there's also all the o'reilly books
[02:41] <MrKennie> DarkCharlie: other than that it is a strange issue. dmesg logs may give a clue if it happens again, though.
[02:41] <eeenico> is there an eeepc channel?
[02:41] <Drfozmd> Anybody in here ever use nznzb for streaming nzb's?
[02:41] <minimec> karex:     sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[02:41] <Leefmc> kitche: True, but i thought much of the underlying junk like mount points, locations of generic files (fstab, etc), what these files are for, etc, was all generic linux knowledge. Am i wrong?
[02:41] <DarkCharlie> MrKennie: Alright. Should I come back here if it happens again and I get the log? Or should I go somewhere else?
[02:41] <eeenico> kitche;thanks for help
[02:41] <geodome> anyone know how to manage xfce manageR?
[02:42] <geodome> my task bar and menu disappeared
[02:42] <geodome> i dont know how to restore them
[02:42] <kitche> Leefmc: yes it's general if you really want to learn I suggest Linux from scratch but that's a bit advance
[02:42] <Scunizi> geodome: right mouse click for a menu
[02:42] <sliverchair> hi, is this a valid command?
[02:42] <sliverchair> cd /; ls | grep [e,m,s] > dir1.out; cat dir1.out
[02:42] <karex> minimec: does it uninstall/delete gdm??
[02:42] <srpenney> bunnyto: liveCD does not pick up the RAID1 array either.  Any other ideas.
[02:42] <minimec> karex: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/how-to-switch-between-gdm-and-kdm-on-ubuntu/
[02:42] <Leefmc> kitche: Yea, i am very new, so advanced might not be my thing heh. But if its indepth, im not afraid to learn
[02:43] <Leefmc> kitche: Anyway, i gatta scoot. Thanks for the help!
[02:43] <Leefmc> and Frogzoo
[02:43] <Jordan_U> sliverchair: Depends on what you are trying to do
[02:43] <minimec> karex: It reconfigures gdm and lets you choose between gdm and kdm
[02:43] <sliverchair> Jordan_U:                                                           Create a shell script dirtest, that will store the file listing of your root directory to dir.out; then filter and display only on the the directory that starts with either the letter 'e', 'm', 's' and store to dir1.out.
[02:43] <meyos> im trying to reinstall ubuntu, how can i do this
[02:43] <bunnyto> HELP how to enable sound for Wine?
[02:43] <geodome> right click doesnt show anything
[02:44] <zetheroo-ubuntu> I am trying to install libqt4-opengl-dev in Ubuntu Hardy ... but its not in the repos
[02:44] <Jordan_U> sliverchair: Then no
[02:44] <meyos> i loaded the disk reboot but i just got the login screen
[02:44] <DarkCharlie> MrKennie: Should I come back here with the log or should I register to the forum and try it there?
[02:44] <BriteLeaf> \from the command line, what is the best editor to open and change xorg.conf?
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[02:44] <sliverchair> Jordan_U: can you revise it? thanks
[02:44] <thiebaude> yo
[02:44] <BriteLeaf> VI?
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> BriteLeaf: there is no best but nano is decent
[02:45] <zetheroo-ubuntu> anyone got an idea?
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> BriteLeaf: there is no "best" anything
[02:45] <BriteLeaf> ok... never used that. What would the command be? nano xorg.conf?
[02:45] <karex> minimec: thank you:)
[02:45] <minimec> karex: np
[02:45] <dekkong> Hello i downloaded the latest nvidia geforce driver 177.80 and after I installed it my x-server crashed and said something about modules:( any clues?
[02:45] <MrKennie> DarkCharlie: you can try either.
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup; sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:46] <DarkCharlie> MrKennie: Alright, thank you. :)
[02:46] <dekkong> I have a Geforce 6800 GT
[02:46] <MrKennie> DarkCharlie: you're welcome
[02:46] <geodome> oh.. i learn to how to fix.. alt-f2, then run xfce4-panel
[02:46] <geodome> lol
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> dekkong: i think you need the binary driver from www.nvidia.com for that card
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> !nvidia | dekkong
[02:46] <bunnyto> HELP how to enable sound for Wine?
[02:47] <zetheroo-ubuntu> how to install libqt4-opengl-dev in Hardy?
[02:47] <lirui0073> some error infomation http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/9905...
[02:47] <Jordan_U> sliverchair: I would do something like "echo e* m* s*"
[02:47] <lirui0073> please help me!!!!
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> bunnyto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1813
[02:48] <karex> HI, how to get info about free/usage space of ext3 partition?
[02:48] <kitche> karex: df -h
[02:48] <Jordan_U> sliverchair: Does this file / output need to be parseable by a script or is it only going to be read by humans?
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo-ubuntu: i only have qt4-dev not opengl. i think you need to add a repo
[02:48] <MrKennie> lirui0073: is this during an update?
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> karex: df -h
[02:49] <sliverchair> Jordan_U: hmm
[02:49] <karex> kitche, ActionParsnip: is there gui application?
[02:49] <zetheroo-ubuntu> ActionParsnip  : but its used to be in the ubuntu repos ....
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo-ubuntu: try tab completing the package name
[02:49] <dekkong> ActionParsnip: Ok thx i will check that out
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> karex: no idea, i use the cli version its very readable
[02:50] <zetheroo-ubuntu> ActionParsnip: I downloaded it from http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy-backports/libdevel/libqt4-opengl-dev
[02:50] <minimec> karex: sudo apt-get install gparted. This is the gui that gives you the info you want.
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> karex: baobab seems to do it
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> karex but you dont need to use any more room as df does what you want
[02:51] <thomc> Are most ubuntu packages also available for Debian?
[02:51] <Jordan_U> sliverchair: maybe something like this "cd /; for i in e* m* s*; do  echo $i; done | tee outfile.txt" ?
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> thomc: most are available for all systems as you can compile source
[02:52] <maynards-girl> is there a way to have amarok play music through apple's airport express's airtunes?
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> thomc: just try not to use ubuntu debs on debian
[02:52] <FFForever> how can i remove everything kubuntu put in (from the kde4 install cd) and put ubuntu or do i have to download the whole ubuntu cd?
[02:52] <minimec> thomc: most packages from debian are available for ubuntu, as they mostly come from debiansid ;)
[02:52] <thomc> Are there huge differences between Ubuntu and Debian?
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> !puregnome | FFForever
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> FFForever: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:53] <sliverchair> Jordan_U: thanx, but I submitted, echo "e* m* s*"
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> thomc: some
[02:53] <lirui0073> MrKennle: yes update my system
[02:53] <sliverchair> Jordan_U: thanx for the help
[02:53] <FFForever> thanks :D
[02:53] <zetheroo-ubuntu> ActionParsnip: I found a bug report on this package ... it says "Fix Released .... but where is the fix? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/228148
[02:53] <Jordan_U> sliverchair: Submitted? Did I just do your homework for you !?!
[02:53] <lirui0073> MrKennie: yes update my system
[02:54] <mythheadache> I have been trying te get a remote working in mythtv for about a month now, I wonder if anyone dares try and help me out
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo-ubuntu: "The files are 100% the same"
[02:54] <mythheadache> I have an ATI Wonder Remote, the original one, not II, trying to use lirc and i just cant get it to do anything
[02:54] <bunnyto> i have 2 video cards, how to disable 1 ?
[02:55] <sliverchair> Jordan_U: a bonus quiz actually, I submitted cd /; ls | echo "e* m* s*" > dir1.out; cat dir1.out
[02:55] <zetheroo-ubuntu> ActionParsnip: in this How-To it says I need I need to install that file http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=885201
[02:55] <MrKennie> lirui0073: try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:55] <minimec> bunnyto: Probably your BIOS can do that.
[02:55] <Toran> I have dual monitors in ubuntu 8.04. How do I set a separate wallpaper to each monitor? Right now gnome just stretches one image across both screens, and it looks really ugly.
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo-ubuntu: you need to sudo dpkg --force-overwrite -i <filename> to install it
[02:56] <bunnyto> minimec: you are so smart my love
[02:56]  * Maahes is 90% of the way to a great rc.lua for awesome
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> Toran: id just make a big image with 2 wallpapers joined
[02:56] <minimec> bunnyto: Well maybe... Let's see...
[02:56] <Maahes> awesome really is awesome
[02:56] <Jordan_U> sliverchair: You will get the question wrong because you misunderstood my comment. Hopefully next time you will try to learn and understand rather than cheat
[02:56]  * mltdwn gets a warm fuzzy feeling
[02:56] <mythheadache> I have read over mythtv guides, lirc docs, mythtv-user stuff, reinstalleb ubuntu/lirc/mythtv multiple times, irw command has never recogvized input from the remote. The reciever recognizes and loads modules lirc_atiusb, using ati_remote I can get the remote to work as a keyboard emulator. anyone have any tips/ideas?
[02:56] <zetheroo-ubuntu> ActionParsnip: will forcing it screw anything else up?
[02:56] <ryth> Toran I have the same questiong although I found some pretty cool wallpaper out there that stretches pretty cool..
[02:56] <Maahes> for all that xmonad is supposedly good, the dotfiles are write only
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo-ubuntu: dont think so, id look deeper
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> Toran: you could run a seperate x server for each screen then you could set the wallpaper as normal
[02:57] <kiwi_> hi all. i'd like to update my kernel to have better hardware support on my msi wind (eeepc like) laptop running on gutsy. Is there repositories with newer versions of the kernel ?
[02:57] <ryth> ActionParsnip: any idea how to do that?
[02:57] <PoisonArrow> Ok, I created an .iso image with mkisofs, but when I run the cd, it says theres no bootable image?
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> ryth: do what?
[02:57] <danbh_intrepid> kiwi_: I think the only supported way is to upgrade to hardy
[02:58] <ryth> ActionParsnip: run a seperate x server for each window...
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> kiwi_: which kernel do you have?
[02:58] <lirui0073> MrKennie: error infomation http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/9907
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> ryth: you need to play with xorg.conf so you have 2 screens, then fire 2 xservers using config from each screen. I'd ask in #gentoo
[02:58] <kiwi_> 2.6.24-19-generic
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> kiwi_: you have the latest hardy kernel
[02:59] <zetheroo-ubuntu> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/d4156554d
[02:59] <MrKennie> lirui0073: sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/util-linux_2.13.1-5ubuntu2_i386.deb && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:00] <ryth> ActionParsnip: ok thanks I understand how now :), just not exactly what do do.  Right now that's enough for me.. thanks :)
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo-ubuntu: you could try --force-all
[03:00] <kiwi_> ActionParsnip, do you know if there are any package sources with more recent kernel builds?
[03:00] <kiwi_> independent ones maybe. .. i didnt find anything googleing
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> kiwi_: you could compile the latest from www.kernel.org
[03:01] <Flannel> kiwi_: Or just wait for Intrepid
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> kiwi_: then you can have 2.6.27
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> kiwi_: indeed as Flannel says intrepid is out in a few weeks and includes it
[03:02] <kiwi_> ok thanks. i'll just wait for intrepid, i'm not even sure of the hardware support benefits i could have with a newer kernel
[03:02] <kiwi_> :)
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> kiwi_: well does all your hardware work
[03:02] <sarixe> people, i have a unique problem.  i installed ubuntu 8.04.1 on my computer this morning.  now, i'm in a different location, without a monitor, but i want to connect to my wifi router.  i'm logged in and i'm 99% sure i have a terminal open.  someone have a way i can connect?
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> sarixe: if you dont have port forwarding setup then your router will assume you are hacking in and drop the requests
[03:03] <sarixe> ugh
[03:03] <sarixe> not that
[03:03] <sarixe> i just simply need to connect to it
[03:03] <NewHelpr> sarixe be clearer
[03:03] <sarixe> i don't have a monitor at the moment.
[03:04] <sarixe> i can't see what i'm doing.
[03:04] <sarixe> all i have is a keyboard.
[03:04] <sarixe> i need to connect to the router so i can ssh in.
[03:04] <kiwi_> ActionParsnip, the wifi is not stable (disconnection if i dont constantly use the network) with ath9k driver, the hibernate mode doesnt work (crash), the powersaving mode doesnt work (acpi...)
[03:04] <zetheroo-ubuntu> ActionParsnip: my software index is broken ... how do I fix it ?
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> kiwi_: hibernate is a lot of pain
[03:04] <sarixe> i would use the network applet, but i can't see it
[03:04] <kiwi_> yeah i know :)
[03:04] <kiwi_> but it works sometimes on some hardwares =)
[03:05] <NewHelpr> sarize :vssh in it using terminal
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> kiwi_: id save your hair and abandon it, 9 times out of 10 coming out of hibernate takes longer than a cold boot
[03:05] <sarixe> what?
[03:05] <kiwi_> yep
[03:05] <sarixe> i need to connect to the router
[03:05] <sarixe> a wifi router
[03:05] <NewHelpr> sarixe alt+f2 then type gnome-terminal then ssh it
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> sarixe: unless your router allows this you wont get anywhere
[03:05] <lirui0073> MrKennie: No such file or directory
[03:05] <sarixe> allows what?
[03:06] <MrKennie> sarixe: I don't think anyone understands what you want to accomplish.
[03:06] <sarixe> i could connect to it easily if i could see what i was doing
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo-ubuntu: sudo apt-get -f install
[03:06] <sarixe> there is no monitor on this computer
[03:06] <sarixe> i can't see what i'm doing
[03:06] <danopia`vista> Hi.
[03:06] <sarixe> i have a terminal open
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> danopia`vista: hi
[03:06] <BriteLeaf> Where is the file that says video config is 1600 x 1200 or X x X?
[03:06] <danopia`vista> I plugged a USB webcam into my ubuntu desktop to see waht happened and it asploded.
[03:06] <NewHelpr> sarixe you're saying weird things
[03:06] <MrKennie> lirui0073: try sudo apt-get -f install
[03:06] <sarixe> yes, i know
[03:06] <danopia`vista> Is this common?
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> sarixe: and you are going to perform tasks on a filesystem whilst essentially blind?
[03:07] <sarixe> yes, if i know what to do
[03:07] <sarixe> which i don't
[03:07] <tonsofpcs> ok, so i recently upgraded from feisty to hardy via a stopover at gusty.  In the gusty kernel, both my wireless card and sdcard reader worked, in the feisty it was either the wireless with the normal kernel line or the sd card with xen, now in hardy it's just the wireless.  Any way to get it working?  Can I install the gusty kernel as a boot option? [my options now are just the new kernels and the last feisty kernel]
[03:07] <kiwi_> ActionParsnip, thanks for the advices, i'll wait for the next release :) ++
[03:07] <danopia`vista> MEaning my system essenetially froze.
[03:07] <sarixe> but yes, suppose i'm blind.  how do i connect to the wifi?
[03:07] <sarixe> (also, it's not THIS computer.  it's a different computer.)
[03:07] <ActionParsnip> ﻿danopia`vista: try a reboot with it in, see what you get
[03:07] <karex> HI, how to get info about free/usage space of ext3 partition?
[03:07] <karex> oopss.. no no
[03:07] <danopia`vista> ActionParsnip: hmm it already finshed booting, but k :P
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> karex: df -h
[03:08]  * danopia`vista shuts down
[03:08] <karex> oooppsss i'm sorry
[03:08] <usser> tonsofpcs, why dont you try to upgrade to intrepid
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> sarixe: if you are wanting to connect to a headless system via ssh thats fine
[03:08] <lirui0073> MrKennie:also errror
[03:08] <sarixe> yes, that's what i want
[03:08] <sarixe> however i need to have it connected to the wifi network.
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> sarixe: but you need to forward the ssh port to the system using virtual server / port forwarding
[03:08] <sarixe> what?
[03:09] <sarixe> that's all done
[03:09] <sarixe> it's all good
[03:09] <sarixe> i just need to connect the headless to the wifi router
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> sarixe: then you simply ssh to your routers wan ip and it will connect
[03:09] <MrKennie> sarixe: you want to setup wireless on a box that has no monitor so you can ssh in?
[03:09] <sarixe> yes, MrKennie
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> MrKennie: nice one
[03:09] <MrKennie> sarixe: It's pretty easy, good luck with that.
[03:09] <MrKennie> with no monitor
[03:10] <sarixe> but how do i do it?
[03:10] <MrKennie> sarixe: I would go encryptionless to start with
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> sarixe: you cant ssh to something with no connection can you
[03:10] <sarixe> it's not encrypted
[03:10] <sarixe> ActionParsnip : right.  i'm trying to get that connection.
[03:10] <danopia`vista> ActionParsnip: it's wokring so far, at hte login screen.
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> MrKennie: how can he connect if the system isnt configured for his wifi?
[03:10] <sarixe> the hardware is all set up
[03:10] <pc02> jhii
[03:10] <sarixe> i just need to connect
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> sarixe: you need to get it connected first
[03:10] <MrKennie> ActionParsnip: I figure he has a keyboard attached but no monitor
[03:11] <sarixe> MrKennie : true
[03:11] <danopia`vista> ActionParsnip: it booted up
[03:11] <MrKennie> ActionParsnip: and he needs to get the wifi up so he can ssh in
[03:11] <sarixe> yes yes
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> sarixe: does it have a wired connection?
[03:11] <sarixe> no
[03:11] <sarixe> no ethernet cable
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> sarixe: ok then yuo are stuck as you cant configure a connection over a none-existant connection
[03:12] <NewHelpr> sarixe this sounds pretty hard to do
[03:12] <pc02> hat are you talking about????
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> ﻿danopia`vista: any better
[03:12] <sarixe> ugh
[03:12] <BriteLeaf> Where is the file that says video config is 1600 x 1200 or X x X, and what is it's name please?
[03:12] <sarixe> is there like a command line interface to networkmanager that i can use
[03:12] <sarixe> ?
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> sarixe: if you dont have a wireless connection how are yougoing to ssh to it?
[03:12] <minimec> sarixe: Do you know the device name like wlan0 or so?
[03:12] <sarixe> ugh
[03:12] <sarixe> ath0
[03:12] <danopia> ActionParsnip, well it's booted with the camera in, but i dont' konw how to use webcams P *seraches apt rep*
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> ﻿danopia`vista: i'd start with lsusb and websearch from there
[03:13] <MrKennie> sarixe: iwconfig ath0 essid <youressid>
[03:13] <pc02> fuck with you
[03:13] <sarixe> MrKennie : i'll try it
[03:13] <sarixe> sudo needed?
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> pc02: are you on about sarixe?
[03:13] <danopia> ActionParsnip, all I really want it to show hte webcam feed on the desktop.
[03:13] <MrKennie> sarixe: then dhcpcd ath0 and that should get it working if all goes well
[03:13] <MrKennie> sarixe: dopn't forget sudo in front of those
[03:14] <sarixe> oh geez
[03:14] <MrKennie> sorry, dhclient
[03:14] <sarixe> ok hold on
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> ﻿danopia`vista: well if you find out what ubuntu knows it as yuo can websearch
[03:15] <minimec> sarixe: ok. So you are typing blind in a terminal on a computer without monitor. Well you want to type 'sudo iwconfig ath0 essid off', (sets essid to 'auto', then 'sudo dhclient ath0'. That should give you a connection.
[03:15] <sarixe> minimec : i'll go with MrKennie's idea first
[03:15] <MrKennie> sarixe: that is the same as mine :)
[03:16] <sarixe> with one difference, and that's an auto essid
[03:16] <MrKennie> sarixe: ah yes, I guess "to be sure"..
[03:17] <ferfactor> alguien sabe porque se cierra solo el openoffice?
[03:17] <ferfactor> es desgastante que pase eso... no puedo trabajar
[03:17] <minimec> MrKennie: ;)
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> ferfactor: hables espaniol?
[03:17] <EvilTchnlgy_> hey
[03:17] <BriteLeaf> Where is the file that says video config is 1600 x 1200 or X x X, and what is it's name please?
[03:17] <ferfactor> sorry...
[03:17] <ryth> why does Firefox keep stopping from loading webpages? I always gotta hit refresh to load them completely
[03:18] <tonsofpcs> resolution?
[03:18] <crimsonredmk> /etc/X11/xorg.conf BriteLeaf
[03:18] <ferfactor> anybody her knows why openoffice close up with any reason?
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> ferfactor: are you speaking spanish?
[03:18] <crimsonredmk> i think that's what you're looking for
[03:18] <_Zeus_> I added a keyboard layout, but how do i enable it?
[03:18] <BriteLeaf> I looked there. Nothing that says what my size is
[03:18] <ferfactor> ActionParsnip, si hablo español
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> ferfactor: run openoffice from command line then you will see error messages
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> !es | ferfactor
[03:19] <crimsonredmk> odd, it should be in there, along with all possible resolutions
[03:19] <BriteLeaf> I'll look again. Maybe it went by too fast
[03:19] <ferfactor> ubottu, si lo sé pense que había entrado a ubuntu-es
[03:19] <EvilTchnlgy_> does the default version of ubuntu server include PAE support? I'm going to try installing it on a poweredge 6650 with 6 gb of rama nd its 32 bit...
[03:19] <NewHelpr> ferfactor ubottu es un bot
[03:20] <ferfactor> jaja ok
[03:20] <NewHelpr> ;)
[03:20] <ferfactor> well i write openoffice in a terminal and said this...
[03:20] <ferfactor> javaldx: Could not find a Java Runtime Environment!
[03:20] <ferfactor> any idea?
[03:20] <NewHelpr> install java?
[03:20] <MrKennie> EvilTchnlgy_: it should be yes
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> !java | NewHelpr
[03:21] <EvilTchnlgy_> MrKennie: thank you
[03:21] <BriteLeaf> nope. Nothing that says video is X x X height x width
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> NewHelpr: in 64bit linux i used icedtea myself
[03:22] <crimsonredmk> did you set your resolution using the Gnome utility?
[03:22] <BriteLeaf> What is happening is I get a black screen for a GUI. I need to reconfigure it so I quit getting Out of Range and can see again
[03:22] <jay_> howdy all... ive got 8.04 and having audio problems...  ive got a quad core amc CPU and thats the only thing I Can put it down to... since ive tried lots of different trouble shooting..  can someone offer some suggestions please..
[03:22] <crimsonredmk> oh, you need to reconfigure
[03:22] <jay_> ( oops amd )
[03:22] <EvilTchnlgy_> One more question (that isn't exactly ubuntu related). If a server has redundant power supplies will it still run with only one of them or does it need the amperage of both at post?
[03:22] <crimsonredmk> can you get to a shell? (terminal)
[03:22] <MrKennie> EvilTchnlgy_: it is enabled by default, at least according to config.server from the hardy git tree.
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> jay_: we need to know what sound card you have, not your processor
[03:23] <crimsonredmk> the command to reconfigure X is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:23] <Joeseph> I know that Ardour is a good alternative for studio editing software, but is there a program with the size of Garage's Band sound library?
[03:23] <EvilTchnlgy_> MrKennie: thank you for the verification, very kinda of you =)
[03:23] <BriteLeaf> I tried to. Prefrence > Screen Resolution. I set it to 800 x 600, then ran the ATI drivers for Linux. Then it restarted and gives me Out of Range
[03:23] <MrKennie> EvilTchnlgy_: you're welcome.
[03:23] <jay_> ActionParsnip:  just trying to find that... cant remember off hand... whats the alsa command to get that ?
[03:23] <BriteLeaf> I have to ctrl + alt + F2 do do anything
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> jay_: lspci in terminal
[03:23] <Silver_Fox> NickServ identify kirk2007
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> jay_: one line will tell you
[03:24] <crimsonredmk> BriteLeaf, do that and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:24] <MrKennie> oh my
[03:24] <Joeseph> or with any substantial sound library for that matter.  I like to play around with the sound library in Garage Band and put random stuff together.... I want to do that in linux!
[03:24] <NewHelpr> I'm puzzled by the fact that OpenOffice requires java. Is this correct?
[03:24] <crimsonredmk> yes NewHelpr
[03:24] <jay_> ActionParsnip:  Dosnt say much - 00:07.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0774 (rev a1)
[03:24] <kitche> NewHelpr: no it doesn't unless you want to use the database
[03:24] <ferfactor> i have install sun-java6-jre but my openoffice close up whit any reason
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> NewHelpr: its nice to have but not necessary afaik
[03:24] <NewHelpr> ok thnks kitche
[03:25] <crimsonredmk> ah right kitche
[03:25] <NewHelpr> thls ActPars
[03:25] <NewHelpr> thks
[03:25] <kidbuntu> someone i need a help.. i cant open my synaptic and update manger after having a "segmentation faults" after doing an update
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> jay_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=887127
[03:25] <ferfactor> javaldx: Could not find a Java Runtime Environment!
[03:25] <ferfactor>  i have this problem with openoffice
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> kidbuntu: can you install stuff in terminal?
[03:26] <crimsonredmk> yes ActionParsnip, same way as in ubuntu
[03:26] <jay_> ActionParsnip:  HAHA ... ummm awesome.... no help though :(   any ideas ?
[03:26] <BriteLeaf> Crimson: Use kernel framebuffer device interface? Y or N?
[03:26] <crimsonredmk> Y
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> jay_: course it is, read the last post..have you tried that?
[03:26] <crimsonredmk> er, whats the default
[03:26] <kidbuntu> ActionParsnip: never tried it. i''m just a newbie so i only do installation in the easiest way as possible.
[03:26] <crimsonredmk> go with the default BriteLeaf
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> kidbuntu: sudo apt-get install <program name>
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> kidbuntu: doesnt get easier than that
[03:27] <kidbuntu> ActionParsnip: let me try first
[03:27] <the> hai
[03:27] <jay_> ActionParsnip:  oh just read the " I took it back and got a different laptop" part....   you suggest I reboot with "no apic" ok ill try
[03:27] <kidbuntu> ActionParsnip: i got something on google.
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> jay_: thought you said it was no help
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> kidbuntu: ?
[03:27] <EvilTchnlgy_> Just to make sure there was nobody who missed my question, does anyone know if a server that has redundant power supplies will run with just 1 or if botha re required to run?
[03:27] <EvilTchnlgy_> *both are
[03:28] <MrKennie> ugh almost 3:30 am. I better get myself to bed!
[03:28] <MrKennie> ni
[03:28] <EvilTchnlgy_> night, thanks for the help mrkennie =)
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> MrKennie: same here
[03:28] <kidbuntu> ActionParsnip: can  you name a smallest program that i could try to install]
[03:28] <MrKennie> yw
[03:28] <VoodooDance> hi all
[03:28] <sarixe> awriiiiite
[03:28] <sarixe> it worked
[03:28] <sarixe> awesome, thanks MrKennie and minimec
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> kidbuntu: sudo apt-get install pidgin
[03:29] <minimec> sarixe: np
[03:29] <VoodooDance> I'm having a problem with my ubuntu 8.04 installation.  When it boots, it checks the drives, gets to 29% and then reboots.  It does this over and over again unless I hit the skip button.
[03:29] <kidbuntu> ActionParsnip: i always got Segmentation faultsts... 0%
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> kidbuntu: try a reboot
[03:30] <kidbuntu> ActionParsnip: still having segmentation fault.
[03:30] <Guest34945> can
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> VoodooDance: have yuo checked yuor drive for errors?
[03:30] <kidbuntu> ActionParnsip: did that already
[03:30] <bbitmaster> VoodooDance; This is random, but have you tried doing a memory test?
[03:30] <VoodooDance> ActionParsnip, no, how do I do this
[03:30] <ferfactor> i type openoffice in a terminal and said me this problem sudo update-java-alternatives -s
[03:31] <crimsonredmk> BriteLeaf, how did it go
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> VoodooDance: fsck /dev/<partition name>
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> VoodooDance: id do it in the live environment
[03:31] <pawan> any webcam software
[03:31] <bbitmaster> the ubuntu CD comes with a memtest program on it that works... that probably isn't the problem, but it's so easy to check that it's worth it to do so.
[03:31] <Joeseph> what is the syntax for removing (purging or removing) a package?
[03:31] <BriteLeaf> Between doing that, answering the phone, and being bugged every time I turn around I am running it lol. Still in the Keyboard stage. I'll let you know
[03:32] <m3thod> .tar.gz or .rpm for install falshplayer? im using 8.04 (hardy)
[03:32] <crimsonredmk> ok BriteLeaf
[03:32] <pawan> !webcam
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> Joeseph: sudo apt-get --purge remove <package name>
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> !flash | m3thod
[03:32] <NewHelpr> joeseph sudo apt-get --purge remove nameofpocket
[03:32]  * bbitmaster has had faulty memory prevent a boot before
[03:32] <DarkCharlie> Hey everyone.
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> !hi | DarkCharlie
[03:33] <Joeseph> NewHelpr: ActionParsnip: thanks
[03:33] <pc02> hai every body
[03:33] <DarkCharlie> Is MrKennie here?
[03:33] <EvilTchnlgy_> he said he was going to bed
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> DarkCharlie: he gone
[03:33] <DarkCharlie> Oh
[03:33] <freeman> Hey guys
[03:33] <freeman> I screwed up something
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> !hi freeman
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> freeman: what you done?
[03:34] <freeman> I deleted x11
[03:34] <Joeseph> NewHelpr: ActionParsnip: My package is still very there after I ran that command
[03:34] <freeman> And now am running off of a live CD
[03:34] <EvilTchnlgy_> lol
[03:34] <DarkCharlie> Could somebody look at my pastebin? MrKennie told me to do it if my Terminal and other things froze up again. http://paste.ubuntu.com/56868/
[03:34] <EvilTchnlgy_> thats pretty big
[03:34] <BriteLeaf> Crimson: Out now. SHould I just reboot and cross my eyes, fingers, toes, and nuts now? lol
[03:34] <drumstyk1> could anyone help me with seeing windows shares? smb:/// shows my workgroup but nothing after that
[03:34] <minimec> freeman: So you deleted the config files or the packages?
[03:34] <freeman> I was trying to get open gl to work. Anyway. My problem is that ubuntu live cd wont mount my hd
[03:34] <pc02> hei you dont wont talk to me
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> DarkCharlie: you trying to run skype and having issues?
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> Joeseph: whats the package name?
[03:35] <Joeseph> I guess I typed it in slightly wrong: it's gone after I ran it again
[03:35] <DarkCharlie> ActionParsnip: No, Skype works fine. It's just that my Terminal and other windows have frozen.
[03:35] <NewHelpr> :D
[03:35] <Joeseph> ActionParsnip: It was called jokosher.
[03:35] <freeman> minimec : I followed this tutorial for fedora  http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=189227
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> Joeseph: cool
[03:35] <freeman> I had to downgrade some stuff
[03:35] <yokobr> hey guys... im getting this message "install: 102: alsaconf: not found"
[03:35] <TerdFergs> howdy
[03:35] <freeman> Anyway
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> DarkCharlie: restart x with ctrl_alt+backspace
[03:36] <freeman> I just want to take my stuff and go home Im sick of linux
[03:36] <DarkCharlie> ActionParsnip: When I do that, a gray box appears in the upper-left hand corner and nothing else happens.
[03:36] <freeman> But now I cant even mount the harddrive to back up the DVD I was working on
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> Joeseph: you can remove orphaned packages wth sudo apt-get autoremove
[03:36] <freeman> Its on the drive somewhere
[03:36] <Joeseph> ActionParsnip: Will do, it suggested  that I do that.
[03:36] <freeman> But ubuntu can't access it or something
[03:36] <VoodooDance> AccessExcess, ty
[03:36] <freeman> I just want to burn the DVD
[03:37] <drumstyk1> ﻿﻿﻿could anyone help me with seeing windows shares? smb:/// shows my workgroup but nothing after that
[03:37] <kidbuntu> and my synpatic wont start anymore
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> Joeseph: look at what its going to remove before continuing
[03:37] <sancho21> When the fix is released, where can I get the fix? I want to get the fixed package of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/222929
[03:37] <Joeseph> It always surprises me how many python dependencies there are.
[03:37] <TerdFergs> is it ok to get help with an 8.10 install regarding DVI and a radeon card displaying a blank screen?
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> sancho21: you can share files with samba and editing /etc/samba/smb.conf
[03:38] <minimec> freeman: so you fuc...d up you xorg.conf I guess. Start your computer in recovery mode (esc when grub loads), then do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in a console. That should give you a basic xorg.conf again.
[03:38] <sancho21> ActionParsnip: Read my question please
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> minimec: theres an option to recover xorg.conf after selecting recovery :)
[03:39] <NewHelpr> drumstyk you have a windows share if it is enabled corectly you can access it by logging as user "Guest" with no password
[03:39] <minimec> ActionParsnip: OUps... That is new to me.... :)
[03:39] <kidbuntu> ActionParsnip: its annoying i couldnt open up my update manager or my synaptic
[03:40] <kidbuntu> ActionParsnip: even the add/remove programs
[03:40] <freeman> Ill try it thanks
[03:40] <yokobr> hey folks
[03:40] <arooni-mobile> how do i open a swf file on ubuntu hardy?
[03:40] <drumstyk1> NewHelpr: i tried to access it from places>network... it never asks for a un/pw but i know the windows pc's are sharing as they play nice with each other
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> sancho21: no idea man, if you simply rename smb.conf; to smb.conf you should be ok as the system is creating the wrong filename according to the bug report. I dont know where the fix is though
[03:41] <pawan> how to start camorama
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> pawan: in terminal type its name
[03:41] <yokobr> hey dudes... i have no sound here, and im getting this message, while i try to install my sound driver "install: 102: alsaconf: not found"
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> kidbuntu: yuo could run the commands the link you are clicking runs in terminal and you will see intelligent outputs
[03:42] <DarkCharlie> What should I do ActionParsnip?
[03:42] <drumstyk1> is there a magic checkbox i'm missing somewhere?
[03:42] <kidbuntu> ActionParsnip: all it returns is segmentation faults
[03:42] <smm289> I have two folders , is there anyway I can do a compare between the two folders, I want to see which ones are the newest, preferably a gnome gui method
[03:42] <sarixe> MrKennie : any ideas on how to get it to autoconnect to the network every time it boots?
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> kidbuntu: does a sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install fix it?
[03:42] <pawan> any other webcam application
[03:42] <NewHelpr> drumstyk you see "Workgroup" into network?
[03:42] <kidbuntu> ActionParsnip: no
[03:42] <Joeseph> So is it possible to have an open source project with the library of sounds that Garage Band Has? I can't find one.
[03:43] <BriteLeaf> Crimson: That gave me my screen back. Unfortunately it takes out my ATI Drivers. Any idea how to KEEP my ATI drivers so I can have better than 800 x 600 resolution?
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> Joeseph: audacity maybe
[03:43] <drumstyk1> NewHelpr: yes, acually i see 2 seperate ones as expected
[03:43] <Joeseph> ActionParsnip: Isn't that mostly just a wave editor? I may be wrong.
[03:43]  * Pelo can't sleep and wonders when Ibex will be out ?
[03:43]  * Joeseph goes to take a look at Audacity again
[03:43] <balz> I have a dynamic IP assinged by my ISP and this obviously causes problems for mythweb.  Is there anything that can be done to consistently know what address to connect to?
[03:43] <NewHelpr> drumstk and you cannot access both of them?
[03:44] <Pelo> !ibex
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> kidbuntu: if you gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.lst
[03:44] <airtonix> balz, make use of something like dyndns.org and the ddclient
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> kidbuntu: do you have all ok lines in there and a carridge return on the last line
[03:44] <minimec> sarixe: You have to do it the old debian way. ;) There is a config file in /etc/network/ called 'interfaces'. You can configure your ath0 there...
[03:44] <Taxyx> Bonsoir
[03:44] <balz> airtonix:  thanks!  what exactly do those do?
[03:44] <kidbuntu> ActionParsnip: its blank
[03:44] <drumstyk1> i get the wait wheel for about 20secs and then it gives up when i try to access them
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> kidbuntu: if you have a / a the end of a line it makes it spazz
[03:45] <Pelo> balz, maybe you can make a script to grep ifconfig
[03:45] <sarixe> minimec : i'll check it out, thanks
[03:45] <yokobr> hey dudes... i have no sound here, and im getting this message, while i try to install my sound driver "install: 102: alsaconf: not found"
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> kidbuntu: sorry its sources.list
[03:45] <airtonix> balz, dyndns.org will allow you to make your self a freen domain name like : uberserver.homeunix.net
[03:45] <Pelo> yokobr, sudo apt-get install alsa
[03:45] <Pelo> I think
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> yokobr: change sound system to pulse in sound config may help
[03:45] <NewHelpr> drumstick have you tried to ping the machines you want to connect to?
[03:45] <Harold_Shipman> Nick ryt
[03:45] <airtonix> balz, and ddclient is the software you run on your server to ping dyndns.org in order to tell dyndns.org your current ip address
[03:45] <kidbuntu> ActionParnsip: whats with the sources? is there something wrong with my repositories
[03:46] <sancho21> What is the meaning of status named: "Fix released"? Where is the fixed package available to download?
[03:46] <drumstyk1> NewHelpr: no, im not sure how to do that
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> yokobr: install these http://pastebin.com/m27381e05
[03:46] <ryt> d
[03:46] <minimec> sarixe: WOuld be something like 'auto ath0', 'iface ath0 inet dhcp'
[03:46] <sarixe> alright cool
[03:46] <PoisonArrow> Can anyone help me with creating a new bootable cd after ripping the contents of a bootable cd?
[03:46] <Pelo> sancho21, if this is regarding intrepid ibex packages ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> kidbuntu: its known to cause issues if you have extra characters in there
[03:46] <airtonix> balz, i take it you want to access your myth setup externally ?
[03:46] <ryt> hey can anyone tell me how to put an iso onto a blank dvd in ubuntu?
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> kidbuntu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/71028
[03:47] <balz> airtonix:  that sounds like what I need.  Would i have to configure the client to use dyndns.org for this to work?  or does dyndns just host a domain name?
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> !burning | ryt
[03:47] <Pelo> PoisonArrow, you should make an image of the original cd and burn that instead of ripping
[03:47] <balz> airtonix:  yes, that's correct.  It's a mythweb setup, so i was hoping to set programs to record while i'm on vaccation
[03:47] <kidbuntu> ActionParnsip: how will i know that wherein i never make changes to this
[03:47] <airtonix> balz, ill get some pages that explain it in more depth...brb
[03:47] <Pelo> ryt, use brassero , in the sound /video menu
[03:47] <NewHelpr> drumstick you need to know the local ip of each machine and execute from linux terminal the command : ping <ipofthemachineyouwantoping>
[03:48] <balz> airtonix:  that would be awesome. thank you
[03:48] <EvilTchnlgy_> i know this may seem simple, but will using my new ubuntu server as a dhcp server coexist well with my active directory server that also acts as a dhcp server but the latter would be lower down on the tree
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> kidbuntu: check you dont have any weird characters floating round and make sure there is a carridge return on the last line
[03:48] <EvilTchnlgy_> e.g. ubuntu dhcp distributing tot he AD server
[03:48] <PoisonArrow> Pelo, well I had to mount the cd, copy its contents into a directory, so I could add a few files to it, then recreate it. But it wasnt that easy, I create the .iso again, but its not bootable
[03:48] <EvilTchnlgy_> *to there
[03:48] <EvilTchnlgy_> *to the
[03:48] <EvilTchnlgy_> woops
[03:48] <PoisonArrow> Pelo, I have all the files i need to create it, but Not sure how to ;/
[03:48] <NewHelpr> drumstick I think the problem is just that your llinuxbox does not see the other machines or is not connected properly on the network
[03:49] <Pelo> PoisonArrow, not sure how to help you then , sorry
[03:49] <fr500> hi
[03:49] <kidbuntu> ActionParsnip: everything is clean on the last line.. i just only did an update and then poof there it goes.. segmentation and synpatic wont start or anything even update manager
[03:49] <fr500> is there an apt command to remove old unused kernels?
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> PoisonArrow: thats because all you have is a data cd thats not bootable, you need to make an iso of the new data then write a boot sector to the iso then burn THAT
[03:49] <gluonman_> I deleted the old version of the linux-headers and held onto my latest version attempting to save space. Unfortunately, my madwifi driver that supports my wireless card went with the old headers, and in trying to reinstall madwifi, I'm having problems making and make installing. I think there's something wrong with my headers. How can I restore my headers to all default settings?
[03:49] <generic> Does anyone know how to install drivers for wireless cards?
[03:49] <sancho21> Pelo: That's related to version 8.04
[03:49] <yokobr> ActionParsnip, it says that its already installed. But i think thats someting missing on "alsa-utils" ,cause it says to install a "curses" lib.
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> kidbuntu: ok so what happens if you sudo apt-get update
[03:50] <Pelo> sancho21, this is a fix-release of what exactly ?
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> yokobr: sounds like a line of investigation
[03:50] <drumstyk1> NewHelpr: PING 198.162.1.103 (198.162.1.103) 56(84) bytes of data   <is that a normal return?
[03:50] <airtonix> balz, this is the basics of it (this one is talking about ssh...which you might want to use also..upto you just focus on the dyndns setup portion) http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-247563.html
[03:50] <kidbuntu> ActionParsnip: it updates the repositories and then segmentation fault
[03:50] <Andrew__1> hello. i am using irssi and i was wondering if it was possible for me to set it up so my nick is different on different servers. thank you for your help.
[03:50] <NewHelpr> drumstik after that what does the ping return?
[03:50] <airtonix> balz, another here : http://www.krisalan.com/?p=97
[03:50] <balz> airtonix:  this is great. thank you very much
[03:50] <PoisonArrow> ActionParsnip, I see, when making the new .iso, do I include the boot folder that is with the date I got off the cd. AND how would I create a boot sector
[03:50] <airtonix> balz, second link may be easier to read
[03:51] <apathadeus> hello people, what is a good rpg to play on ubuntu?
[03:51] <Pelo> !games | apathadeus
[03:51] <apathadeus> lol, the convenience of a BOT!
[03:51] <Andrew__1> i would much appreciate some help
[03:51] <kitche> Andrew__1: yes but not sure how to do that in the config file exactly
[03:51] <balz> airtonix:  yeah the second link looks like it's exactly what i need. thanks again!
[03:51] <Andrew__1> kitche: thank you!
[03:51] <minimec> Andrew__1: I don't think that's possible.
[03:51] <kidbuntu> ActionParsnip: yow ma men.. i think i fixed it.. i just tried something that i didnt expected
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> PoisonArrow: ive not done it so im not sure, you would need whatever was previously on the cd to make it boot but extractibg the files then recreating the iso is not retaining the boot sector. id have a websearch
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> kidbuntu: sweet
[03:52] <minimec> Andrew__1: ... but I am not sure...
[03:52] <kitche> Andrew__1: just when you connect to the server you can do /nick <nick> and it will change your nick
[03:52] <drumstyk1> NewHelpr: it only returns that single line
[03:52] <Andrew__1> kitche: i read the documentation but my english is not well and i dont understand lots
[03:52] <PoisonArrow> ActionParsnip, k, I've been looking the past 3 hours, very hard to find info on it
[03:52] <kitche> Andrew__1: let me check real quick per server basis
[03:52] <Andrew__1> kitche: i would like not to do that very much
[03:52] <kidbuntu> ActionParsnip: i dont know how did it happened but one of my sources got commented.. the backports. i uncommented it. i dont know if the update did that
[03:52] <Andrew__1> kitche: thank you!
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> kidbuntu: id apt-get update just to check
[03:53] <minimec> Andrew__1: Well it is possible to be on multiple servers with different nicks...
[03:53] <NewHelpr> drumstick it means the computer does not get reply. try 192.168.1.103
[03:53] <sancho21> Pelo: kdenetwork-filesharing. Regardless that this is kubuntu package, I want to know where can I get the fixed package stated as the bug report said. Or may be I can not get that fixed package unless I upgrade to interpid ibex?
[03:53] <Andrew__1> minimec: i know. can you make it do it at start?
[03:53] <ryt> how do i register my name
[03:53] <kidbuntu> ActionParsnip: thanks for the tip. can't wait for 8.10 version
[03:54] <ferfactor> i have this problem... http://paste.ubuntu.com/56871/
[03:54] <ferfactor> any idea?
[03:54] <minimec> Andrew__1: I only use one... ;) I never had that 'problem' ;)
[03:54] <ryt> hello?
[03:54] <kitche> Andrew__1: do this in google irssi nick per server and the first link and follow that and it should work
[03:54] <drumstyk1> NewHelpr: whoops, now its working :-[
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> PoisonArrow: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-from-usb-stick.html this may help but point it to the iso (?)
[03:55] <maco> minimec: what client are you using?
[03:55] <Andrew__1> kitche: thank you very much! i will go that now!
[03:55] <jarr5> hi ryt
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> kidbuntu: im happy with hardy
[03:55] <kitche> Andrew__1: it's a bit long to explain for me right now but that should work for you
[03:55] <minimec> maco: irssi
[03:55] <PoisonArrow> ActionParsnip, k thanks
[03:55] <ryt> how do i register my name?
[03:55] <ferfactor> http://paste.ubuntu.com/56871/
[03:55] <kitche> !register > ryt
[03:55] <kidbuntu> ActionParnsip: whats new with 8.10 by the way
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> !register | ryt
[03:55] <ink1> hey, I currently am looking for a remote terminal app, so I can run commands on my server from anywhere
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> ink1: install openssh-server
[03:56] <ink1> ah, ok
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> ink1: then configure port forwarding and you have gold
[03:56] <ink1> yea, already have that
[03:56] <ink1> thanks
[03:56] <kitche> ink1: look at putty if you are looking for a windows client for ssh/telnet and so on
[03:56] <ink1> ok
[03:56] <ink1> ty
[03:56] <yokobr> ActionParsnip, im trying to install AC' 97 drivers..
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> ink1: you can even install x libraries on a windows pc and forward x programs
[03:57] <maco> minimec: ive done it before. lemme see how i did it
[03:57] <fr500> is there an apt command to remove old unused kernels?
[03:57] <smm289> command line to format a DVD ?
[03:57] <yokobr> install: 102: alsaconf: not found
[03:57] <histo> fr500: no you have to purge them individually
[03:58] <Flannel> fr500: Just remove the old packages through your favorite package manager
[03:58] <fr500> ok thanks!
[03:58] <histo> fr500: you can dpkg -l | grep kernel to get a list
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> fr500: dpkg -l | grep linux
[03:58] <minimec> maco: It's Andrew__1 that looks for a solution. He wants an automatic connect on multiple servers with different nicks.
[03:58] <m0u5e> is there a way to setup a default template for new accounts on ubuntu?
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> fr500: then you can uninstall the old kernels and fluff from that list
[03:58] <smm289> Command Line --> format DVD/RW
[03:58] <kitche> minimec: he already has a solution actually
[03:58] <fr500> thanks everyone, i'll do
[03:58] <histo> !user > m0u5e
[03:58] <airtonix> m0u5e, yes, its referred to as the skel directory somewhere
[03:59] <m0u5e> histo: i mean like, if i wanted a pre-configured firefox for ALL users & future users, how would I do that?
[03:59] <m0u5e> histo: without having to install new plugins for that firefox every single time
[03:59] <chetnick> any download manager for ubuntu (flashget like) where i can put username and password and download from rapidshare?
[03:59] <ActionParsnip> smm289: sudo apt-get install  dvd+rw-tools; dvd+rw-format -force  /dev/<dvdrw drive>
[03:59] <EvilTchnlgy_> if installing a lamp stack through apt-get, will it install under seperate uids for each server or does this need to be done manually?
[04:00] <ferfactor> http://paste.ubuntu.com/56871/ i have this problem any idea please men!!!
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> chetnick: gwget
[04:00] <apathadeus> ferfactor, lol you said "please men"
[04:00] <chetnick> ActionParsnip: thanks, will give it a try.
[04:00] <minimec> kitche: I see. Gonna have a look at it too. You never know...
[04:00] <histo> m0u5e: skel directory
[04:01] <maco> minimec: where you define the server in your .irssi/config you can just add a line that says nick = "othernick";
[04:01] <airtonix> m0u5e, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=838014
[04:01] <kitche> minimec: it's a very long way so that is why you don't see it in here really
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> ferfactor: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/64554
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> ferfactor: run memtest from grub, you may be suprised
[04:01] <m0u5e> histo: skel?
[04:01] <mgutz> how do you add a system-wide path? i added /opt/ruby-enterprise/bin to .bashrc. i can run $ gem on my account, but when i $ sudo gem, it says gem command not found
[04:01] <maco> minimec: ah sorry
[04:01] <maco> minimec: well he's gone now
[04:01] <minimec> maco: sounds promising.
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> !path
[04:01] <m0u5e> airtonix: thx, let me read through that
[04:01] <kitche> mgutz: add it to /etc/profile
[04:02] <chetnick> ActionParsnip: there is gwget and gwget2, which one should i install?
[04:02] <maco> mgutz: /etc/profile
[04:02] <histo> m0u5e: as someone else suggested youc an create skeleton files that will specify what every new user gets
[04:02] <maco> mgutz: or /etc/env
[04:02] <mgutz> @kitche i added there too and sudo still cannot see it
[04:02] <chetnick> ActionParsnip: i assume that gwget2 is newer version?
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> chetnick: try both
[04:02] <mgutz> k
[04:02] <kitche> mgutz: you will have to log out and back in
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> mgutz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114634
[04:02] <pawan> any other webcam application
[04:02] <hitman1985> sup
[04:02] <maco> kitche: why would he have to do that if it's already set for his user?
[04:03] <minimec> nick ="othernick"
[04:03] <michalski> what channel should I go to for help with virtualbox?
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> pawan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=229095
[04:03] <histo> m0u5e: look at /etc/skel
[04:03] <maco> kitche: its set for his user in .bashrc. its the other users, like root that he wants it on, so he just has to redo is "sudo -i"
[04:03] <kitche> maco: he editting /etc/profile and that doesn't get read until you log out and log back in unless you do source /etc/profile
[04:03]  * ActionParsnip shudders at sudo -i
[04:03] <m0u5e> histo: alright thanks
[04:03] <maco> kitche: but he already has it for his user
[04:03] <histo> m0u5e: new users homes come from there.
[04:04] <kitche> maco: yes his user is different
[04:04] <histo> m0u5e: so you just need to add the .firefox files etc...
[04:04] <ferfactor> ActionParsnip, why memtest?
[04:04] <maco> kitche: he wants /etc/profile to affect the root user.  that gets read when root logs in...like when he does "sudo su -"
[04:04] <kitche> maco: he wanted it system wide
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> ferfactor: read the post i gave you
[04:04] <kitche> maco: sudo su - is bad
[04:04] <maco> kitche: but that doesnt require him logging out and in.  it only requires that the user he wants to affect logs in afterward
[04:04] <maco> kitche: no it's not. it's exactly the same as sudo -i
[04:04] <maco> kitche: just as sudo -s and sudo su are the same
[04:04] <kitche> maco: sudo -i and sudo su - is different
[04:05] <maco> kitche: how so?
[04:05] <kitche> maco: sudo su - doesn't get logged like sudo -i does
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> maco: kitche: both are really bad practise
[04:05] <kitche> ActionParsnip: umm sudo -i is the recommended way to get a root shell if you need one
[04:05] <ferfactor> said that the problem fixed by changing computar memories...
[04:05] <maco> kitche: who cares if it gets logged if you're the only user?
[04:05] <ferfactor> ActionParsnip,
[04:05] <maco> kitche: *obviously* it was you.
[04:05] <airtonix> m0u5e, more about skel here : https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/user-management.html
[04:05] <gluonman_> I can't install madwifi for my wireless card. I've been trying for a long time now, and I've determined that it must be a problem with my linux headers.
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> kitche: no need for it, just sudo each command so you dont fry your system
[04:05] <kitche> maco: not always
[04:05] <maco> ActionParsnip: you're not going to fry your system
[04:06] <maco> ActionParsnip: the only time it's bad is if you leave a root shell open and walk away
[04:06] <kitche> ActionParsnip: hmm ok what if I m editing tons of files I don't want to sudo vi 10 times
[04:06] <mgutz> maybe system wide was a poor choice of words, i just want $ sudo gem to work to install ruby gems
[04:06] <ferfactor> ActionParsnip, i have to reinstall ubuntu?
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> maco: trust me ive seen some bad stuff in here after people have used that
[04:06] <TerdFerg1> how do we force a graphics driver to display the mode we want?
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> ferfactor: no, just check your ram you'll probably find it faultyu according to the post i gave you
[04:06] <maco> ActionParsnip: then they needed caffeine because they obviously weren't awake
[04:06] <kitche> ActionParsnip: you see tons of things as well when people use sudo and your point?
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> TerdFerg1: edit xorg.conf to specify resolutions
[04:07] <TerdFerg1> i need caffeine but its 11pm...
[04:07] <bunnyto> HELP , when i create an alias like ETH0:0 i get the error: Failed to bring up eth0:0. when i restart the network
[04:07] <alvarus> i cant install nvidia 6600 gt
[04:07] <m0u5e> airtonix: yeah, i'm guessing skel is like the equuivalent of windows defaultuser ... checking out sabayon
[04:07] <ferfactor> ActionParsnip, ok thanks.. i'll check it
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> maco: exactly, so if they have to sudo stuff then they know they need power. sudo save noobs from themselves
[04:07] <alvarus> hi
[04:07] <maco> m0u5e: sabayon sets up gconf and those sorts of defaults. skel is for shell stuff, i think
[04:07] <maco> ActionParsnip: who said kitche and i are noobs?
[04:07] <TerdFerg1> ActionParsnip: i edited it but not getting what i want.  Only have DVI... resulting in a blank screen
[04:07] <mgutz> @maco i am ubuntu noob :)
[04:08] <bunnyto> help
[04:08] <kitche> ActionParsnip: it can also destroy systems as well if you run the wrong command
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> maco: i never said you were, its just more secure to have to use sudo each time
[04:08] <michalski> HI, what channel give support for virtual box?
[04:08] <m0u5e> maco: alright thx
[04:08] <chetnick> ActionParsnip: gwget, don't have option where i can put my user name and password for the server, where i am downloading from. Anybody else? download manager for rapidshare on ubuntu?
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> michalski: ask away
[04:08] <Drizzt321> Using the terminal server client (tsclient), I'm looking for a list of any keyboard shortcuts that will let me toggle the fullscreen without having to disconnect/reconnent?
[04:08] <kitche> michalski: #vbox I believe
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> chetnick: thats alli got. i dont use either tbh
[04:09] <balz> airtonix:  can DynDNS still be used if my web server is on a port other than 80?
[04:09] <alvarus> how install nvidia 6600 gt?
[04:09] <michalski> actionparsnip: ok, ever seen this error?: FATAL: PAENotImplemented
[04:09] <maco> mgutz: but ActionParsnip is saying kitche and i should stop using root shells because if you don't pay attention you could break it.  you can do that easily with sudo too. so he says "well noobs might not remember it's root stuff because they didnt explicitly type sudo" so i'm just pointing out that the people saying they use it safely aren't noobs.  noobs can use it safely too though. just pay attention to what you're doing and you'll be fine
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> !nvidia | alvarus
[04:09] <maco> ActionParsnip: no, it's not more secure.  that is fud.
[04:09] <kitche> michalski: means you don't have PAE enabled and you don't really need it
[04:09] <maco> ActionParsnip: it is logged, yes, so that the admin can know which user made which change to the system.  when you are the only user, that makes no difference
[04:09] <michalski> kitche: actually I do
[04:09] <kitche> michalski: unless you have more then 4GB of ram
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> maco: its really not
[04:10] <airtonix> balz, yes all it does is tell dyndns.org that your chosen domain name is equal to your current ip address...
[04:10] <maco> ActionParsnip: it makes you notice that you're typing sudo, but you know what?  the # instead of $ tells you it's root too
[04:10] <kitche> michalski: if you just have 4GB of ram then there's no use of actually using it
[04:10] <TerdFerg1> ActionParsnip: I try to force the mode I need for DVI to work but in my xorg.log it says DVI:0 connected, then it says disconnected
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> maco: i bet most folks dont know that
[04:10] <TerdFerg1> seems like it turns it on, then off
[04:10] <balz> airtonix:  gotcha. thanks
[04:10] <airtonix> balz, the external ip address of your internet connection i mean
[04:10] <EvilTchnlgy_> Kitche: is ape enabled by default?
[04:10] <maco> ActionParsnip: sudo is more secure than a root password because it's not an easy target for password cracking.  it's not more secure than sudo -i
[04:10] <EvilTchnlgy_> *pae
[04:10] <michalski> kitche: im working off of 12, now how would I enable it
[04:11] <kitche> EvilTchnlgy_: no it's usually a kernel and bios thing
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> maco: it just means the user has to make a little more effort which makes them more aware that what they are doing has admin power
[04:11] <maco> ActionParsnip: so? it also says "root@...." so it's very very obviously *root* doing stuff
[04:11] <bunnyto> HELP , when i create an alias like ETH0:0 i get the error: Failed to bring up eth0:0. when i restart the network
[04:11] <bunnyto> where should i configure aliases?
[04:12] <EvilTchnlgy_> kitche: so if i install ubuntu server on my poweredge 6650 wit 6 gb of ram how would I go about enabling pae? do i need to rebuild the kernel?
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> bunnyto: ~/.bashrc
[04:12] <kitche> EvilTchnlgy_: the server does have it enabled by default that I know of
[04:12] <maco> ActionParsnip: i don't understand that argument.  if it doesn't work when they leave out sudo, they'll just "sudo !!" anyway, so what's that do?
[04:12] <EvilTchnlgy_> kitche: o ok, thank you =)
[04:12] <kitche> EvilTchnlgy_: you just might need to turn it on in your bios though since some bios have it turned off
[04:13] <bunnyto> ActionParsnip: ok.. but i cant find anything about network there
[04:13] <maco> ActionParsnip: they're not going to stop and think "i'm typing sudo.  do i really want to do this, maybe i should ponder life, the universe, and everything first..."
[04:13] <kitche> EvilTchnlgy_: some bios doesn't even have that option either just depends on the bios your machine runs
[04:13] <michalski> kitche: (im working inside of a vm with 12gigs, how to enable in virtualbox)
[04:13] <kitche> michalski: no clue it's a kernel/bios thing
[04:13] <Polygon89> Hello, for some reason gmail is not working with firefox 3.0.3 in ubuntu, but works fine on the same browser version in mac and vista, suggestions
[04:13] <michalski> hmmm
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> maco: its hoped, i just really disagree with root shells
[04:13] <minimec> maco: DOn't waste your time. The answer is 42... ,m)
[04:13] <maco> Polygon89: you have to define not working
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> EvilTchnlgy_: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man4/PAE.html
[04:14] <Polygon89> maco, as in its stuck at "loading <email>@gmail.com"
[04:14] <EvilTchnlgy_> kitche: i'll be sure to check... I know some peolpe I was talking to mentioned that there was a grub bug so you ahd to change settings to make pae work. they mentioned they were using xen though, do you happen to know if any modifications need to be maed to grub by default?
[04:14] <EvilTchnlgy_> actionparsnip: I'll take a look, thankyou
[04:14] <m0u5e> Polygon89: you wouldn't happen to have noscript installed in ubuntu would you? if not, try clearing your cache
[04:15] <Polygon89> m0u5e, i do have noscript installed, but it still does not work when i disable noscript globally
[04:15] <maco> Polygon89: works fine here.  did you install a firefox update while firefox was running?
[04:15] <losher> Polygon89: 3.0.3. works fine here with gmail too. Something about your environment...
[04:15] <Polygon89> maco, package manager usually does that, but then it tells me to restart firefox and i do
[04:16] <sadmin> good evening
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> hi sadmin
[04:16] <m0u5e> Polygon89: maybe run firefox from a console .. does it come up with any errors?
[04:16] <Polygon89> never mind, clearing the cache for the third time seemed to of fixed it xD
[04:17] <Polygon89> "third times the charm..."
[04:18] <smm289> Will Kernal updates be downloaded automatically. I just found a link that 2.6.27 has been released, but i'm still using 2.6.24
[04:18] <smm289> hardy
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> smm289: yuo need to reboot to enable the new kernel
[04:18] <smm289> how do I know if I have downloaded it
[04:19] <jrib> smm289: stable releases of ubuntu only receive security and major bug fix upgrades
[04:19] <smm289> Action: I dont remember seeing an update notification about it
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> smm289: dpkg -l | grep linux
[04:19] <smm289> so does that mean Hardy would not receive that kernal update
[04:19] <mgutz> i really miss PowerGrep from Windows. is there a graphical grep utility that allows search/replace across multiple files with preview and undo?
[04:19] <smm289> action: what does that do ?
[04:20] <jrib> smm289: right
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> smm289: shows all packages you have installed containing the word 'linux'
[04:20] <smm289> can I make Hardy get the new Kernal
[04:20] <jrib> smm289: why?
[04:20] <sadmin> what is the linux equivalent of foobar? or better yet, which audio program will show album art?
[04:20] <smm289> jrib: I saw some things in the new kernal that might improve my system.  Like improved SD reader support, and WLAN drivers
[04:20] <EvilTchnlgy_> smm289: oftentimes you don't want to update your kernel unles you havea specific reason, either a bugfix that pertains to you or feature youa re specifically looking for
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> sadmin: amarok shows album art pretty well
[04:21] <jrib> smm289: wait a couple of weeks for intrepid to be released and then upgrade
[04:21] <sadmin> thanks action!
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> smm289: with kernels, if it ain't broke don't fix it
[04:21] <drumstyk1> does anyone know why i can connect to a windows share using the ip but i can't browse the workgroup? this is driving me nuts
[04:21] <legend2440> smm289: Ubuntu 8.10 Beta includes Linux kernel 2.6.27, a significant release with better hardware support and numerous bug-fixes.
[04:21] <EvilTchnlgy_> sadmin: I believe songbird shws albumart as well and is very similar to itunes
[04:22] <minimec> smm289: You can hope for an backport. I guess you will find some solutions soon for hardy, as the hardy **.24 kernel has a lot of bugs with usb for example.
[04:22] <smm289> I guess I will wait for intrepid, thanks for the advise guys, if I update to intrepid will my system stay the same, just be updated ?
[04:22] <jrib> smm289: your data should stay intact.  Of course, you should have backups anyway
[04:23] <airtonix> smm289, doubt it...clean install is my choice
[04:23] <Violet_caem> haiiiiiiiiii
[04:23] <smm289> if I backup my home folder, do a clean install to intrepid, then restore my home folder will all my settings and applications be restored
[04:23] <smm289> I like how I have all my compiz settings and panels set, I dont want to redo it
[04:24] <kindofabuzz> !intrepid > kindofabuzz
[04:24] <jrib> smm289: no.  Only your settings.  Upgrades have always worked fine for me and I've been upgrading since hoary
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> smm289: yes as settings are stored in ~/
[04:24] <minimec> smm289: Your personal settings yes. Some of the modified system settings may be in /etc
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> smm289: apps will not be restored
[04:25] <smm289> is there a way that I can do a clean install of intrepid and then restore everyting to the way I have it.  I'm knew to linux and it took me awhile to get things the way I like um. I'm a little hesitate about doing it again
[04:25] <airtonix> jrib, thats strange because everytime my friends or i have tried upgrades...it borks and creates a mess that is unmanagable
[04:25] <jrib> airtonix: I've only seen that happen with systems that used unofficial repositories
[04:26] <jrib> !cloning > smm289
[04:26] <airtonix> jrib, like mediubuntu for example?
[04:26] <jrib> smm289: but again, upgrading would be a lot less hassle...
[04:26] <jrib> airtonix: no, medibuntu is fine
[04:26] <smm289> On second thought, maybe I will do a clean install, just save my data files and check out Kbunutu this time instead of gnome
[04:27] <jrib> smm289: you can have both kde and gnome on the same system and choose which one to use at the login screen
[04:27] <cactaur> What command do you use to search for swear words in the kernel, again?
[04:28] <smm289> will everything work as smooth when both are installed, still have the feeling that the more things I install the less reliably and responsive my system will be - Windows mentality still
[04:28] <jrib> cactaur: grep?
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> smm289: if you have your ~/ on a different partition yuo dont have to backup prior to the change
[04:28] <cactaur> Does it have any options?
[04:28] <jrib> smm289: your menus may get cluttered, that's all I can think of
[04:28] <jrib> cactaur: sure, check its man page
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> smm289: you could try the upgrade, see how it goes, if its no good then wipe it and fresh install. cant hurt to try
[04:29] <smm289> Action:  good point, wish I had put my / folder on a different partion the first time.  Maybe fresh install and this time I make a second partition
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> smm289: personally i think it should be the standard install
[04:30] <airtonix> ActionParsnip, since its something that just about everyone regardless of OS will want eventually
[04:31] <drumstyk1> can anyone here see their windows shares by clicking places>network?
[04:31] <smm289> I can :)
[04:31] <Arcticfox> hey guyes I'm haveing trouble running wow I think i just screwed somthing incredably si mple up with the download and or install i just got rid of my WoW folder and need some help I'm very new to Ubuntu so I'm prolly missing something simple
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: no windows here friend
[04:31] <FFForever> how do i get pure gnome from kde4?
[04:31] <jhmoore719> smm289:  what settings do you want to save? user settings or other installation files?
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> !puregnome | FFForever
[04:31] <airtonix> Arcticfox, have you read the wow page on the ubuntu wiki?
[04:32] <drumstyk1> i see my workgroups but no computers in them... i am using ubuntu
[04:32] <passive> What is linux alternative for Nokia PC Suite ?
[04:32] <FFForever> ActionParsnip, that is for kde3 not 4
[04:32] <Arcticfox> airtonix: I've tried to but I have no idea what most of it means like i said I'm an idiot when it comes to Ubuntu
[04:32] <smm289> Jhmoore: I want to save all my compiz settings, how my panels look, the screenlets I have installed, the applications I have installed, plus my data files
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> FFForever: add kde4 to the end of each appname
[04:32] <danbh_intrepid> FFForever: are you running hardy?
[04:32] <drumstyk1> if i change the location to smb://192.168.1.103/ then it works but i can't figure out how to browse into it
[04:32] <airtonix> Arcticfox, have you been able to get it running in ubuntu before?
[04:32] <FFForever> kubuntu kde4
[04:32] <FFForever> 8.04
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> FFForever: dpkg -l | grep kde4
[04:33] <chaddy> Arcticfox: the first step is to stop thinking you're an idiot; that'll get in your way
[04:33] <smm289> jhmoore: pretty much everything but I just want the new version to install and work :) (dont we all)
[04:33] <Arcticfox> airtonix: before i cleared my folder i had it running with serious lag and layer and texture issues
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: try smb:// in the address bar
[04:33] <EvilTchnlgy_> anyone know if pci videocards have enough bandwith to handle compiz fusion and all that?
[04:34] <danbh_intrepid> FFForever: those directions should still work fairly well.  Just remove the rest with apt-get autoremove
[04:34] <Arcticfox> chaddy: well I don't know anything when it comes to Ubuntu so I think I'm missing something simple because all the complicated stuff did nothing
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> EvilTchnlgy_: yeah should be ok
[04:34] <EvilTchnlgy_> like a new pci video card, e.g. 256 mb ect
[04:34] <airtonix> Arcticfox, how well wow runs under linux depends on how well your hardware is supported by the linux drivers. what video card do you have? and how much system ram?
[04:34] <EvilTchnlgy_> actionparsnip: ty
[04:34] <smm289> ohh ya, sorry the windows network does not display for me neither, however if i type in the address share smb://<machine>/<share-name> then the share opens up
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> EvilTchnlgy_: compiz isnt massivly heavy.
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> smm289: add it to favourites
[04:35] <Arcticfox> airtonix: I'm running intel but this computer had windows on it before yesterday and I was running wow fine so it's not a hardware problem
[04:35] <drumstyk1> ActionParsnip: that brings up my workgroups just fine but when i click one it give me the wait wheel for about 10-15secs and then just shows the workgroup as empty
[04:35] <jhmoore719> smm289:  You can always back up your /home/<username> directory to a USB drive or CD (including the .* files) will save all your desktop settings.
[04:35] <airtonix> Arcticfox, you misunderstand me .... wow working fine on windows doesnt mean anything
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: add the system as a favourite
[04:36] <drumstyk1> as in define a share by its ip?  i was hoping to avoid that because they are all dynamic
[04:36] <EvilTchnlgy_> ActionParsnip: would it be able to handle any gaming? i really cant think visualize tangible results from the bandwith capabilities of pci..
[04:36] <airtonix> Arcticfox, your video card right...gets alot of attention when the drivers are made for it ONLY when using windows...the drivers your use under ubuntu are not the same.
[04:36] <EvilTchnlgy_> *can't visualize
[04:36] <jhmoore719> smm289:  I'm not sure about the compiz settings.
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> EvilTchnlgy_: sure should be ok, doesnt hurt to try
[04:36] <drumstyk1> or am i misunderstanding?
[04:36] <Arcticfox> airtonix: where can i go to check this and give you accurate information?
[04:37] <airtonix> Arcticfox, and there is the other factor that alot of the acheivements made by 3d cards under windows are done with dirty tricks.
[04:37] <smm289> im thinken a straight fresh install, I used to do it with windows no problem, might as well get used to in in Linux
[04:37] <passive> what is Nokia PC Suite alternative :s ?
[04:37] <Joelito> hi all: How to convert a zip file to tar from the terminal?
[04:37] <airtonix> Arcticfox, have you read this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> Joelito: just unzip it then tar the resulting files
[04:39] <Arcticfox> airtonix: yes i have but like i said earlier it got me nowhere do to the fact that I'm running blind here my friend he had me convert dosn't have anyway to walk me through this stuff
[04:39] <Joelito> ActionParsnip: Could do that
[04:39] <drumstyk1> ActionParsnip: did you catch that... not to be impatient
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> passive: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2275758
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: use the name instead
[04:39] <airtonix> Arcticfox, for example , my old system had a amd 1.8ghz cpu and a ati raedon 9600...ran wow fine on windows but the drivers for the ati card in linux are horrible and ergo i only achieved about 4fps in wow
[04:40] <smm289> airtonix: so Nvidia is supported in linux better than ati?
[04:40] <DocUSN-USMC> can someone tell me whats wrong with this coding
[04:40] <DocUSN-USMC> http://pastebin.com/m10bf51d3
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> smm289: id say so
[04:40] <airtonix> Arcticfox, unless your running a minimum of a coreduo and a nvidia 8800gt i would recommend just going back to windows to play wow
[04:40] <smm289> Good to know
[04:40] <Arcticfox> airtonix: on the ubuntu help forum I typed the code into my terminal and it said yes so that means my graphics card shouldn't be a problem
[04:41] <drumstyk1> ActionParsnip: are you talking about in bookmarks>edit bookmarks?  sorry i am really new to this and unfamiliar with some terminology
[04:41] <passive> ActionParsnip, Thanks alot
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: instead of typing the ip, use its name
[04:41] <airtonix> Arcticfox, :) most cards support direct rendering .... that isnt the issue...the issue is the ability to handle the load which most cards cannot because the linuxdrivers are not given the same love and care as the windows drivers
[04:41] <DocUSN-USMC> can anyone tell me whats wrong with this http://pastebin.com/m10bf51d3
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> DocUSN-USMC: id head into #c++
[04:42] <airtonix> Arcticfox, you are experiencing the effect of microsoft monopoly on hardwarre vendors... :)
[04:42] <balz> what is the command to delete a symlink named "video" ?
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> balz: whats it a link to?
[04:42] <Arcticfox> airtonix: I'm willing to deal with a shitton of stuff to do if i can just get it working on linux is there anything i can do to get it workming?
[04:42] <jrib> DocUSN-USMC: wrong channel?
[04:43] <balz> ActionParsnip:  it links to directory:  /var/lib/mythtv/videos
[04:43] <Arcticfox> airtonix: theres a reason why I'm trying to escape going back to winblows myfriend.
[04:43] <airtonix> Arcticfox, maybe but its a long and painful process....you need lots of paitence and every situation is unique
[04:43] <BriteLeaf> What do I open a .run file with? (It is drivers for my video card)
[04:43] <DocUSN-USMC> thank you
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> balz: cd to where you want the link
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> balz: then ln -s ﻿/var/lib/mythtv/videos ./video0
[04:43] <jrib> BriteLeaf: what card?  Why aren't you using the Hardware Drivers tool in the Administration menu?
[04:43] <smm289> TY-all
[04:43] <airtonix> Arcticfox, well we can start with identiifying your hardware , open a terminal and get your browser pointing at paste.ubuntu.com
[04:43] <Xpistos> Unreal, I just hooked up a Zune to my laptop and Gnomad2 could read what was on it!!!
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> balz: if you need sudo to create it then use it
[04:44] <balz> ActionParship:  the link already exists and i'm trying to delete it
[04:44] <airtonix> Arcticfox, once you have these two ready let me know
[04:44] <Xpistos> I could read or write but that is impressive eh?
[04:44] <balz> I've already CDed into its directory
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> balz: then rm (or sudo rm) the link
[04:44] <Arcticfox> airtonix: okay
[04:44] <balz> oh okay. i thought there may have been a specific command for symlinks. cool thanks!
[04:45] <DocUSN-USMC> im just passing it onto you DX lol
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> balz: its just a file
[04:45] <balz> ActionParsnip:  yeah i guess that makes sense. lol has your n00b detector gone off yet?
[04:45] <airtonix> Arcticfox, first we need to work out if your hardware is using dirty tricks to provide system resources (like your video card using system memory rather than its own)
[04:45] <BriteLeaf> jrib: ATI X1650. Hardware drivers tool (assuming I am doing it right) basically makes my monitor resolution go out of range and I get a black screen
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> balz: noty much, your just unfamiliar
[04:45] <jrib> !ati > BriteLeaf
[04:46] <ubuntu_todd> where should I put the installed software? /usr/sbin or /usr/local/bin?
[04:46] <Arcticfox> airtonix: okay then I'm ready whenever
[04:46] <airtonix> Arcticfox, to identify your video card we need to look in a list of pci devices. in a terminal, type : lspci
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_todd: you put it where make install puts it
[04:46] <BriteLeaf> checking it out now jrib
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_todd: what are you doing?
[04:47] <airtonix> Arcticfox, copy & paste that on the pastebin you have your browser pointed and paste the resulting url here
[04:47] <Arcticfox> airtonix: ok what am I looking for?
[04:47] <Arcticfox> airtonix: okay
[04:47] <ubuntu_todd> ActionParsnip: I download some software which is not .deb.
[04:47] <minimec> ubuntu_todd: If you add (compile) software, it normally goes to /usr/local or /opt
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_todd: if its source then sudo amke install will place it where its needed
[04:48] <ubuntu_todd> minimec: I kind of like /usr/local
[04:48] <SuperJat> np,yw
[04:48] <Arcticfox> airtonix: okay here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/56879/
[04:48] <SuperJat> Does anyone know when you can preorder the 8.10 CDs? (or free ones that is)
[04:49] <SuperJat> I'm guessing after a lot more testing and it getting closer to final download?
[04:49] <airtonix> Arcticfox, ok doesnt look good, your video card is on the second line...and it looks like its part of your mother board...and most probably shares system ram
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> SuperJat: if anywhere https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[04:49] <minimec> ubuntu_todd: If you compile software for your system it will use the drectories the developper chose. That will probably be /usr/local/...
[04:49] <ubuntu_todd> But the Path doesn't include /usr/local/bin. And I don't wanner change the path.
[04:49] <SuperJat> ActionParsnip: i was saying is there any "date set" ?
[04:50] <jrib> ubuntu_todd: the default path does include /usr/local/bin/
[04:50] <ubuntu_todd> usr/local
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> SuperJat: 30th Oct
[04:50] <bruenig> the default path depends on the developer
[04:50] <jrib> ubuntu_todd: huh?
[04:50] <SuperJat> OK.
[04:50] <Arcticfox> airtonix: well obviously i can't fix it but is there anyway to get around it?
[04:50] <bruenig> to be certain though when you compile, you can set a prefix flag. i.e. ./configure --prefix=/usr/local
[04:50] <airtonix> Arcticfox, this post repeats what i have been saying : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=423496
[04:50] <ubuntu_todd> jrib: See you again. :)
[04:50] <bruenig> or whatever
[04:50] <mgutz> in vista i can right click on an app and say run as administrator. how do i do that in ubuntu? netbeans is giving me permissions error when i try to install ruby debugger
[04:50] <SuperJat> Give or take?
[04:50] <SuperJat> or perm set in stone
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> SuperJat: id wager set in stone
[04:51] <jrib> ubuntu_todd: note what bruenig has just said.  By the way, what software is this?
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> mgutz: from terminal use gksudo <appname>
[04:51] <airtonix> Arcticfox, the only real way to get it working well is to buy a real video vard, and if your system doesnt support pci express then you either need to buy a new system or dual boot to windows just for wow
[04:52] <ubuntu_todd> jrib: It is parssim which is used to calculate flows of the underwater of oil.
[04:52] <airtonix> Arcticfox, as painful as it may be...this is the only real option you have for effective raiding
[04:52] <mgutz> ActdionParsnip: thanks
[04:52] <Geoffrey2> I apparently need to go buy a new PCMCIA wireless card, as my internal broadcom chip doesn't seem to be functional anymore...is there any particular brand that's well supported?
[04:52] <airtonix> Arcticfox, anything less and you may as well play wow via postcards
[04:52] <user-01> yhukguky;io
[04:52] <SuperJat> ActionParsnip: Alright, I'll try sometime around then for preordering I reckon.
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> Geoffrey2: broadcom works fine with ndiswrapper
[04:53] <threeseas> there is a typo in the .config file for tracker - look for dvision and change it to division
[04:53] <Paddy_EIRE> hitman1985, ok so "apt-cache search emerald"
[04:53] <ubuntu_todd> jrib: If I install it under /usr/local, but my path doesn't include /usr/local
[04:53] <danbh_intrepid> !hardware > Geoffrey2  check the fsf link at the bottom
[04:53] <jrib> ubuntu_todd: paste the output of 'echo $PATH'
[04:53] <ubuntu_todd> jrib: And I don't wanner change PATH
[04:53] <Arcticfox> airtonix: well I have no financial backing whatsoever I'm not old enough to get a job and my parents certainly aren't buying me anything for a computer in the near future
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_todd: make a symlink in /usr/bin
[04:53] <Geoffrey2> ActionParsnip, I've been through all the troubleshooters....the chipset is up, but still can't see the router
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> Geoffrey2: is it in an acer?
[04:53] <airtonix> Arcticfox, then its windows unfortunatly
[04:53] <ubuntu_todd> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[04:53] <Arcticfox> airtonix: I'm just gonna fallow this forum you gave me and see what i can do
[04:54] <jrib> ubuntu_todd: see, it does have /usr/local/bin
[04:54] <threeseas> I solved my HD drive running to much by totally removing tracker - decided I wasn't using it anyway
[04:54] <Arcticfox> airtonix: I'm gonna fight this to the end
[04:54] <danbh_intrepid> Geoffrey2: if you do end up buying new hardware... atheros ftw!
[04:54] <hitman1985> Paddy_EIRE: ok so that tells me what emerald is and can do ?
[04:54] <Geoffrey2> ActionParsnip, Dell Inspiron 6000....it was working fine until about a week ago when it simply stopped working
[04:54] <airtonix> Arcticfox, doesnt hurt to try...if anything you'll learn some new things
[04:54] <ubuntu_todd> jrib: but it doesn't include /usr/local
[04:54] <Arcticfox> airtonix: thats for sure. well thanks for your time
[04:55] <jrib> ubuntu_todd: notice how it doesn't have /usr either and yet your software works.  All you need is /usr/local/bin/ so the binaries are in your PATH.  Installing to /usr/local/ should work fine with regards to your PATH
[04:55] <bpat1182> I'm trying to replace nvidia-glx with nvidia-glx-new.  I got nvidia-glx to remove; however, I keep getting a dpkg-diversion clash with the nvidia-glx-new install.  Anyone know if it's possible to fix without a complete reinstall?
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> Geoffrey2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45142
[04:55] <Geoffrey2> ActionParsnip, I even completely reinstalled Hardy Heron...it installed the driver, extracted the proper firmware, the Wi/Fi light is on, the wireless shows up in both lspci AND ifconfig, but I can't get it at admit a router exists
[04:55] <jrib> bpat1182: what version of ubuntu?
[04:56] <bpat1182> 8.04
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> bpat1182: sudo apt-get -f install
[04:56] <Paddy_EIRE> hitman1985, ok test this.. open a terminal and type "emerald" and press enter and see what happens... keep in mind emerald comes with 0 themes to start with you may need to download some of one of the nice theme sites that are available.. like gnome-look
[04:56] <ubuntu_todd> jrib: do you mean the bin file will automatically go to /usr/local/bin?
[04:56] <jrib> bpat1182: pastebin the errors you are getting
[04:56] <jrib> ubuntu_todd: yes
[04:57] <hitman1985> Paddy_EIRE: says something about an already runing theme manager
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> Geoffrey2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=815300
[04:57] <ubuntu_todd> jrib: I will try first. If problem I will ask you:P
[04:57] <Aughey> anyone ever seen font corruption like this?  http://thinksplat.com/screen.png
[04:57] <ezzieyguywuf> i want to recursively list all the contents of a directory EXCEPT the filenames. any easy way to do this? ls -d doesn't seem to be the ticket...
[04:57] <Paddy_EIRE> killall emerald hitman1985
[04:58] <jrib> ezzieyguywuf: find -type f
[04:58] <jrib> ezzieyguywuf: find -type d
[04:58] <jrib> oops
[04:58] <ezzieyguywuf> jrib: find...hm i'll check that out thanks
[04:58] <ezzieyguywuf> jrib: perfect! thanks man
[04:59] <Geoffrey2> ActionParsnip, the issue here is that's talking about setting up wireless in the first place...this computer worked fine with my router until a week ago, when it suddenly decided I didn't have a router...
[04:59] <hitman1985> Paddy_EIRE: no process killed ;-)
[04:59] <Paddy_EIRE> hitman1985, ok so perhaps reload your DE/WM
[04:59] <EvilTchnlgy_> do they make pci-x video cards?
[04:59] <Paddy_EIRE> logout
[04:59] <Paddy_EIRE> hitman1985, ^
[04:59] <hitman1985> Paddy_EIRE: kk brb
[05:00] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[05:00] <bpat1182> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/56881/
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> Geoffrey2: hmm
[05:00] <PoisonArrow> How can I make a script run at bootup?
[05:00] <bpat1182> Forgive any typos as I had to dictate from desktop to laptop.
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> !startup  | PoisonArrow
[05:00] <jrib> bpat1182: try purging nvidia-glx
[05:01] <ghis> hi, how can i install ubuntu without, i have cd 700mb
[05:01] <ghis> without X
[05:01] <bpat1182> jrib, apt claims it's already removed, so it can't purge
[05:01] <jrib> ghis: without what?
[05:01] <PoisonArrow> ActionParsnip, thanks
[05:01] <Flannel> ghis: You need to download the alternate CD
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> !lowmemory | ghis
[05:01] <chaddy> PoisonArrow: you could look at update-rc.d, too
[05:01] <minimec> ghis: You need the 'alternate' install cd
[05:01] <detrate> anyone know of video players that will play rarred files like xbox media center does?
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> ghis: or you can install the server
[05:01] <BlueEagle> PoisonArrow: alternately /etc/rc.local is an option.
[05:01] <cjmaster> Hello, I'm sorry but I can't figure out how to map a network drive.. can anyone help?
[05:01] <creeed> If I see my wirelesscard in iwconfig, does this mean that its driver is properly installed?
[05:02] <hitman1985> Paddy_EIRE: hmmm
[05:02] <BriteLeaf> Ok, jrib... I went to the HowTo, and it sent me to another HowTo where it had me do these commands. sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` sudo insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile/fglrx.ko When I did them, it wanted me to log out, then back in. As soon as I logged out, the monitor went out of range. No logging back in
[05:02] <hitman1985> Paddy_EIRE: nothing changed tho
[05:02] <jrib> bpat1182: aptitude purge nvidia-glx
[05:02] <ghis> ok, thnks for yours reply
[05:02] <Paddy_EIRE> hitman1985, thats fine
[05:02] <creeed> !ipw
[05:02] <PoisonArrow> Now would there be any issues if there is a "sudo" command in the script?
[05:02] <creeed> !ipw > creeed
[05:03] <BlueEagle> detrate: rar is not very common on the linux platform as far as I know. It would however be possible to make a script that un-rars the archive, plays the video and removes the temporary file afterwards.
[05:03] <jrib> PoisonArrow: not really, but it will ask the user for a password
[05:03] <chaddy> PoisonArrow: that's what update-rc.d is handy for
[05:03] <cjmaster> Thank you, but I don't see how you map a network drive.
[05:03] <Paddy_EIRE> hitman1985, you my also need to do "emerald --replace& exit" ins a terminal every now and then
[05:03] <PoisonArrow> jrib, o
[05:03] <chaddy> runs as root on bootup
[05:03] <ActionParsnip> PoisonArrow: i'd add gksudo at the start instead
[05:03] <PoisonArrow> chaddy, Ah ok sweet
[05:03] <PoisonArrow> ActionParsnip, dont need a password for it?
[05:03] <bpat1182> jrib, okay, purged it, did a rm -rf /usr/lib/nvidia and then tried apt-get install nvidia-glx-new, same diversion error
[05:03] <detrate> yeah... that's what this video I found seems to do - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXFTt1u3EJg
[05:03] <detrate> thanks
[05:04] <jrib> bpat1182: still by the nvidia-glx package?
[05:04] <cjmaster> how do you map a network drive?
[05:04] <bpat1182> jrib, yes
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> PoisonArrow: if its once linux boots then i think so, if you add it to your boot script it will run as root
[05:04] <jrib> BriteLeaf: I don't know much about ati issues.  Does the wiki offer no troubleshooting advice?
[05:04] <BlueEagle> !smb | jrib
[05:04] <bpat1182> jrib, same exact error message
[05:04] <hitman1985> Paddy_EIRE: i never installed it :) besides as i just set all the stuff up, there was something in the compiz setup or so what i have to do, that much i rememebre
[05:04] <BlueEagle> jrib: mis-nicked that one.
[05:04] <BlueEagle> :/
[05:04] <jrib> bpat1182: well you could force dpkg to install it... Did you google the error first and search bugs.ubuntu.com?
[05:05] <BlueEagle> cjmaster: see the samba-link.
[05:05] <BriteLeaf> Not sure. Actually, that was the first way. There are two. That one was supposed to be the easiest lol
[05:05] <detrate> w00t -- mplayer can do this. just 'mplayer video.rar'
[05:05] <Cami> hola emm alguien me podria ayudar :)?
[05:05] <BriteLeaf> I will see what I can do
[05:05] <jrib> !es | Cami
[05:05] <bpat1182> jrib, the bug ticket claims that using a symlink might fix it, but doesn't seem to for me
[05:05] <PoisonArrow> chaddy, should there be anything in update-rc.d
[05:05] <bpat1182> google turns up nothing of value
[05:05] <Cami> oh ok
[05:05] <PoisonArrow> chaddy, nm :)
[05:05] <jrib> bpat1182: well you need to make dpkg forget the diversion, or force it
[05:05] <chaddy> PoisonArrow: if you copy your script ... cool ;)
[05:06] <ActionParsnip> bpat1182: you could try envyng-gtk
[05:06] <tritium> detrate: the bad thing about that URL you pasted is that it shows pirated movies.  Please don't paste URLs like that in the future.
[05:06] <Cami> uhmm i need a spanish server about ubuntu please >_<
[05:06] <ActionParsnip> bpat1182: i believe part of the install removes all other nvidia packages
[05:07] <Flannel> !es | Cami
[05:07] <detrate> tritium: I didn't notice
[05:07] <Cami> uhmm i need a spanish server about ubuntu please >_<
[05:07] <jrib> Cami: /join #ubuntu-es
[05:07] <Cami> THAKS !
[05:08] <bpat1182> ActionParsnip, thanks, trying to get envy to remove the libs
[05:08] <bpat1182> ActionParsnip, that did it
[05:08] <bpat1182> thanks!!
[05:08] <cjmaster> I read the samba article, thank you very much. =]
[05:08] <Paddy_EIRE> hitman1985, believe it or not the support channel and I or anyone on here would only serve as a distraction to you own learning and tinkering at the moment.. I would "/away" or quit on the irc chans for now and let yourself roam about without the added distraction.. EVERYONE shoud be doing that at this stage.. learning by doing and getting your comfort zones organised should be what you are at
[05:09] <yokobr> pleaaaaasseeeeeeeeeee..... i have no sound.. and i would be so pleased if anybody could help me to install AC97 realtek drivers on ubuntu..
[05:09] <ActionParsnip> bpat1182: just so yuo know, if you use envyng-gtk you must rerun it once booted to a new kernel. so switch to nv when you get a new kernel then reboot
[05:10] <bpat1182> ActionParsnip, I only used it to uninstall the nvidia-glx drivers, I'm going to use apt-get to install nvidia-glx-new
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> bpat1182: fine, just makuing you aware of the weirdness of envyng
[05:10] <bpat1182> thanks
[05:10] <balz> I'm trying to chmod a drive to 644 by typing "sudo chmod 644 -R" but I keep getting the error "missing operand after 644" ... what's wrong with my syntax?
[05:10] <quang1e> hey guys. is there a simple graphical tool for making deb packages?
[05:10] <BlueEagle> yokobr: First off, the excess amount of vowels in "please" is not neccessary. Secondly, are you sure your Master and PCM channels are un-muted in alsa-mixer?
[05:10] <bpat1182> hmm
[05:10] <balz> quangle:  have you tried webmin?
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> balz: you havent said what you are applying the chmod to
[05:11] <quang1e> balz, no. I'll take a look
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> ﻿sudo chmod 644 -R /usr/share for example
[05:11] <balz> ActionParsnip:  how should it read?  sudo chmod 644 /path/to/drive -R
[05:11] <TeslaTony> I just got a Razer Lycosa keyboard, and it has this great bit of software that lets me redefine and set macros on every single key, plus set up profiles so that I can change between different setups. But that's for Windows. Is there anything similar for linux?
[05:11] <balz> ActionParsnip:   ok thanks!
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> balz: you never directed the command at anything so it does nothing
[05:12] <ubuntu_todd> jrib: my bin file would be /usr/local/parssim/bin/parssim. Would the PATH search that?
[05:12] <quang1e> balz, hm i'd prefer an actual application rather than a web interface...
[05:12] <BlueEagle> !webmin
[05:12] <balz> quangle:  i hear ya... i just thought i'd suggest it
[05:13] <yokobr> BlueEagle, i have no sound driver installed at all. I cant even open the mixer.
[05:13] <balz> ActionParsnip:  makes sense. i thought maybe it acted upon the directory to which the cli was pointing
[05:13] <linuxgeekery> Currently, I have a laptop with a dead HD and I'm running from the liveCD.  however, when I boot, the process hangs up for about 10 mins when ubuntu tries to read/mount the dead HD
[05:13] <linuxgeekery> any suggestions on how to stop it from reading the HD on boot?
[05:13] <bpat1182> remove it from the fstab?
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> balz: no you'd have to use ﻿sudo chmod 644 -R . for that
[05:14] <mgutz> use ubuntu vs debian server? on Linode virtual hosting, the debian image is smaller. i'm not so worried about disk space, but i am worried about memory usage.
[05:14] <chaddy> linuxgeekery: edit the kernel boot line at startup, iirc you want to add "noswap"
[05:14] <hitman1985> hmmm anyone in general know how to get emerald to work?
[05:14] <linuxgeekery> chaddy: wouldn't that just stop it from swapping? not mounting?
[05:14] <minimec> linuxgeekery: Go in the BIOS of your laptop and inactivate the hd
[05:14] <BlueEagle> yokobr: What does lspci list your card as?
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> hitman1985: head into #compiz
[05:14] <quang1e> bah! All I want is to make a simple package that pulls in all dependencies, and compiles a library, so that i don't have to do it by hand every single time :\
[05:15] <linuxgeekery> minimec: it's a macbook pro
[05:15] <chaddy> hitman1985: last time I did it I had to get an old feisty package of it, there is an emerald manager, too
[05:15] <hitman1985> ActionParsnip: thanks :)
[05:15] <quang1e> I've been reading the packaging guide, and it's way to advanced for what i need
[05:15] <BlueEagle> yokobr: lspci |grep Multimedia
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> linuxgeekery: why buy a macbook to put linux on it
[05:15] <minimec> linuxgeekery: Don't they have a BIOS? I have no clue...
[05:15] <meek1> hello all
[05:15] <linuxgeekery> minimec: it's EFI
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> quang1e: apt-get does that for you
[05:15] <Dudeeee34> Hey guys.
[05:16] <yokobr> BlueEagle,  Miscellaneous Control?
[05:16] <linuxgeekery> ActionParsnip: I didn't really, I mainly use OS X but I triple boot. And since you can't have an OS X live cd, I'm running Ubuntu while I wait for my new drive to arrive
[05:16] <quang1e> ActionParsnip, not if you want to build a custom library that depends on some other libs in the repos
[05:16] <BlueEagle> yokobr: that doesn't sound right.
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> linuxgeekery: you could make it not load the module for hard drive access maybe
[05:16] <yokobr> BlueEagle, it only appears my video, processor.. dram controller
[05:16] <chaddy> linuxgeekery: not sure but there might be an option in refit.conf to disable everything but optical drives
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> linuxgeekery: you could always disable te drive in bios
[05:16] <yokobr> and that miscelaneous thing.
[05:16] <mgutz> one reason to use linux on macbook is because macports and fink suck
[05:17] <BlueEagle> yokobr: Nothing like "Multimedia audio controller"?
[05:17] <linuxgeekery> ActionParsnip: like I said, there's no BIOS, and chaddy I'm not using refit
[05:17] <chaddy> try noswap, then
[05:17] <yokobr> nope.
[05:17] <BlueEagle> yokobr: Are you using an USB audio device?
[05:17] <linuxgeekery> kk, thanks
[05:17] <chaddy> that's what it's looking for
[05:17] <karsten> How do I get my current ubuntu release?
[05:17] <yokobr> its not compilled on the kernel.
[05:17] <yokobr> nope..
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> quang1e: then install the one on the repos, then uninstall just the app but dont autoremove, then compile what you want and install it, you will then have the deps
[05:17] <Flannel> karsten: You mean what you're on now?  lsb_release -a
[05:17] <yokobr> its an AC97 onboard nforce 4 chipset.
[05:17] <BlueEagle> karsten: /etc/issue lists it.
[05:18] <chaddy> linuxgeekery: if it doesn't work ping me with what did?
[05:18] <jrib> ubuntu_todd: no, just create a symlink in /usr/local/bin/ pointing to it though
[05:18] <chaddy> ;)
[05:18] <BlueEagle> copy the output from lspci to the link ubottu is about to give you
[05:18] <BlueEagle> !pastebin | yokobr
[05:18] <balz> ActionParsnip:  i managed to change the permissions on that drive to 644 but now i don't ahve permission to access it... I also tried changing it back to 0660 (which it was originally) but i still don't have permission? what gives?  What's the least restrictive chmod setting?
[05:19] <linuxgeekery> chaddy: k, I will
[05:19] <karsten> Flannel thanks.
[05:19] <ubuntu_todd> jrib: how to symlink?
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> balz: if its a drive you have mounted yuo need to mount with UIDs so users can access it
[05:19] <jrib> ubuntu_todd: ln -s TARGET NAME
[05:19] <karsten> ubuntu_todd:  man ln
[05:19] <balz> ActionParsnip:  what's a UID?
[05:19] <quang1e> ActionParsnip, it's a custom library that is not in the repositories. I can always get all the dependencies and then build it. But doing so every single time is time consuming. I was hoping there would be a tool that would easily create a deb that'd just pull in all the dependencies that i specify, and then build the library and install it
[05:20] <quang1e> that way i can deploy it across several machines quite easily
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> balz: its like the chmod things you are using. Are you trying to allow users to write to a USB disk?
[05:20] <karsten> balz: user ID.  man 5 passwd
[05:20] <yokobr> BlueEagle, http://pastebin.com/m63fa52e3c
[05:20] <bpat1182> when i go to configure my X screens, how can I differentiate between ports on the same video card?  Two DVI outs per card, two carts.  one at: AGP:01:00.0 and the other at AGP:04:00.0
[05:20] <karsten> Flannel: Thanks.  Ubuntu 8.04.  How current is that?
[05:20] <balz> ActionParnsip:  no. this is a 500gb hard drive with all the movies on the myth server.  it needs to be read/writeable by user "louis" and user "mythtv"
[05:20] <Flannel> karsten: that's the current release.
[05:21] <bpat1182> karsten, the latest stable
[05:21] <BlueEagle> yokobr: that post is very empty
[05:21] <karsten> Flannel: Danke.
[05:21] <balz> ActionParsnip:  and preferably readable by all others
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> balz: is it internal?
[05:21] <balz> ActionParsnip: yes. moutned at /media/500gb
[05:22] <BlueEagle> yokobr: To copy/paste from a terminal to a web browser mark the output in the terminal by clicking and draging your mouse then click the middle button in the window where you want to paste it.
[05:23] <ActionParsnip> balz: sudo mount /dev/<partition name> /media/500gb -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[05:23] <balz> ActionParnsip:  it's already mounted though... I cd-ed into the drive
[05:23] <yokobr> BlueEagle, but thats all that appears with lspci
[05:23] <BlueEagle> yokobr: lspci gives you nothing?
[05:23] <balz> or am i missing somethign?
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> balz: cd ~/; sudo umount /media/500gb
[05:24] <bibi__> Should I upgrade 8.04 to 8.10 ? What are the advantages of LTS ?
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> !lts
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> bibi__: if you are happy with hardy and all your hardware works theres no real reason to upgrade
[05:24] <BlueEagle> bibi__: 8.10 is still beta afaik.
[05:25] <BlueEagle> !8.10
[05:25] <balz> ActionParsnip:  I'm getting device is busy
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> balz: lsof will show any files open
[05:25] <drumstyk1> does anyone know how to unlock an external hard drive? it has a padlock icon on the top of the folder and says i can't write to it
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> balz: lsof | grep 500gb
[05:25] <yokobr> BlueEagle, 00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Contro
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: you need to mount it user writable
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198614
[05:26] <tyso1> anyone, is there a plugin available for firefox that enables flash besides adobe flash that can be installed from synaptics?
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> !gnash | tyso1
[05:26] <drumstyk1> ActionParsnip: do u know any magic terminal commands that will fix it?
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> tyso1: id recommend flash nonfree and nspluginwrapper
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: its in the post
[05:27] <PoisonArrow> How can I list all my partitions, I want to mount them with fdisk
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> PoisonArrow: sudo fdisk -l
[05:27] <meek1> PoisonArrow: sudo fdisk -l
[05:27] <tyso1> action parsnip: does it work pretty well? i mean does it get the job done?
[05:27] <PoisonArrow> k
[05:27] <PoisonArrow> thanks
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> tyso1: works on my systems
[05:27] <yokobr> http://pastebin.com/m20817ce3
[05:27] <tyso1> actionparsnip:thanks
[05:27] <alanbshepard77> does Beryl do anything that compiz can't? If so is it worth installing on hardy? Can it be installed?
[05:28] <GodfatherofEire> Quick Question. When I go to install a new theme in firefox, the "Find Updates" button is grayed out, any idea what's causing this?
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> !beryl | alanbshepard77
[05:28] <PoisonArrow> ActionParsnip, meek1 sudo makes a big difference :P
[05:28] <balz> ActionParsnip:  i get no output.  i'm going to kill the myth frontend. maybe that'll do it
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> balz: or reboot
[05:28] <alanbshepard77> ActionParsnip: Thanks.
[05:28] <alanbshepard77> I wondered why info on it was so hard to find.
[05:29] <freeman> how do I iwconfig in command line ?
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> alanbshepard77: for help head to #compiz
[05:29] <minimec> freeman: man iwconfig ;)
[05:29] <paul68> BlueEagle: goodmorning can I message you have some questions concerning shorewall
[05:29] <freeman> I type in iwconfig wlan0 essid "myconnection" and it doesnt work
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> freeman: man iwconfig
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> paul68: ask in teh room
[05:29] <freeman> I read it
[05:30] <freeman> And I went online
[05:30] <freeman> Its not working
[05:30] <freeman> This should work     iwconfig wlan0 essid "myconnection"
[05:30] <BlueEagle> paul68: Hang on. Attempting to find out which kernel module the CK804 uses
[05:30] <freeman> Then ifconfig wlan0 up
[05:30] <freeman> But nothing
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> freeman: http://www.susegeek.com/wireless/iwconfig-wireless-interface-configuration-utility-in-linux/
[05:30] <paul68> ActionParsnip there are a few questions and Blueeagle has one installed
[05:30] <the_dude> how do i remove gimp, at the terminal...
[05:31] <paul68> BlueEagle: okk
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> the_dude: sudo apt-get --purge remove gimp
[05:31] <the_dude> ActionParsnip, thx
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> the_dude: you may also want to sudo apt-get autoremove
[05:31] <freeman> I know how to use it
[05:31] <freeman> Why isnt it working ?
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> the_dude: so it removes orphaned packages
[05:31] <freeman> This should work     iwconfig wlan0 essid "myconnection"
[05:32] <the_dude> ActionParsnip, thx
[05:32] <alanbshepard77> ActionParsnip: You're an answer machine. As someone who needs people like you around I want to truly say thanks.
[05:32] <minimec> freeman: ifconfig wlan0 up is not working anymore as the connections are handled by the network-manager. Try 'dhclient wlan0'
[05:32] <the_dude> ActionParsnip, cuz i wanna install the new gimp got it
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> freeman: i have no idea, i always configure it with /etc/network/interfaces
[05:32] <GodfatherofEire> Any ideas as to why the find updates button might be grayed out under firefox?
[05:33] <BlueEagle> yokobr: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24/+bug/240094
[05:33] <ezzieyguywuf> no updates to find ? :-D
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> alanbshepard77: i just like to help plus im trying to get my sleep pattern back so im staying up like 24 hours so its back to normal. its 5:30am here
[05:33] <balz> ActionParsnip:   reboot it is... can you explain what we're doing?  I'm a bit lost
[05:33] <alanbshepard77> ActionParsnip: Ah.
[05:33] <GodfatherofEire> There should be, cause I installed the pack of Ubuntu themes for Firefox, but those dont even show up
[05:34] <yokobr> BlueEagle, my sound driver has worked, when i installed it.. but only in OSS..
[05:34] <PoisonArrow> Ok, I am going to use fdisk to delete my windows partition which is the first partition on my disk, it is labeled as the boot partition. Now, if I do delete it, will it mess up my booting because it is labeled as the boot partition? Or, should can I label my linux partition to be the boot partition and it will be fine?
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> GodfatherofEire: mine is too. maybe its checked already so greys it out
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> PoisonArrow: you may have to reinstall grub but its not hard, boot to live cd and follow....
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> !grub | PoisonArrow
[05:34] <grizlo42> hi
[05:34] <GodfatherofEire> ActionParsnip: kind of odd, though, dont you think, because nothing else shows up?
[05:34] <grizlo42> i had an old 7.10 cd
[05:34] <alanbshepard77> ﻿Is there a package/utility to change the brightness of a laptop screen? I have a sony vaio and installed a package call aspicc or something like that which said it was made just for sony laptops but it doesnt work.
[05:35] <grizlo42> that i installed on a laptop
[05:35] <GodfatherofEire> I mean, it should at least show up if it was installed
[05:35] <PoisonArrow> ActionParsnip, isnt there an easier way without the livecd?
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> GodfatherofEire: how do you mean "nothing else"
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> PoisonArrow: not sure
[05:35] <BlueEagle> yokobr: Does `lsmod|grep snd` give you anything useful?
[05:35] <grizlo42> and it has a wireless card that ubuntu sees
[05:35] <grizlo42> but when i add a connection. it shows 0%
[05:35] <balz> ActionParsnip:  500gb unmounted.  what's next?
[05:35] <GodfatherofEire> There's the firefox default, and that's it, other than that, there should be other themes that Firefox should be able to use, right?
[05:35] <BlueEagle> paul68: You can send /msg with your questions and I'll get around to them when I'm done with yokobr. :)
[05:36] <grizlo42> any ideas on what to do?
[05:36] <paul68> BlueEagle: ok
[05:36] <DirtMcGirt> # Appears as DAN
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> balz: ﻿sudo mount /dev/<partition name> /media/500gb -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[05:37] <FireflySTE> # Appears as TONGTYED
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> GodfatherofEire: go to firefox addons to get themes
[05:37] <yokobr> BlueEagle, it gives nothing.
[05:37] <balz> ActionParsnip  what's my partition name going to be?
[05:37] <GodfatherofEire> Thats what I've done.
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> balz: run sudo fdisk -l to see
[05:37] <GodfatherofEire> And there's nothing there, just greyed out buttons
[05:37] <BlueEagle> yokobr: If you read the link I posted there has been some trouble with nvidia CK804 with kernel updates after 2.6.16 or so.
[05:37] <balz> ActionParsnip:  like dev sdb that kind of stuff?
[05:37] <yokobr> BlueEagle, I know that i need to (re) install that sound driver... but it says that "alsaconf" msg..
[05:38] <FireflySTE> (#G010E878RM1) hello #ubuntu
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> balz: it'l have a number after, sdb is the physical disk, sdb1 is the first partition
[05:38] <BlueEagle> yokobr: To resolve that issue you would most likely need to re-compile the driver module, and that includes re-compiling the kernel.
[05:38] <yokobr> BlueEagle, i know, but it was working today. And i havent upgraded that kernel..
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> balz: if the mounting is in /etc/fstab id change the line for the partition to avoid all this
[05:39] <BlueEagle> yokobr: Is the module listed in /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/sound/
[05:39] <BlueEagle> ?
[05:39] <balz> ActionParsnip:  too late I just did sudo mount /dev/<partition name> /media/500gb -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[05:39] <FFEMTcJ> im trying to install ubuntu on my laptop.. i seem to be having problems every time i get to the partitioner. It doesn't matter from livecd, or just strait install or even install over the net.. everytime it gets hung at the partitionar.. any ideas
[05:39] <GodfatherofEire> ActionParsnip: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=15x0p39&s=4
[05:39] <balz> ActionParsnip:  and i don't know about fstab lol
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> balz: the dev doesnt exist so it'll fail
[05:39] <GreedyB> What would cause my Ubuntu to load to initramfs prompt??
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> balz: it auto mounts stuff at bootup
[05:40] <mrbiscuit78> hey when i close out firefox and go to reopen it. it says i have to close out the old one running but i don't see it on the bar where it is running
[05:40] <balz> ActionParsnip:  gotcha.  well it seems to have succeeded silently?  I didnt' get an error message
[05:40] <FFEMTcJ> the computer was running windows, so is there anything i can do before hand that will help out the partitioning program
[05:40] <EvilTchnlgy_> mrbiscuit: immediately after closing or after some time?
[05:40] <danbh_intrepid> mrbiscuit78: try: pkill firefox
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> balz: in linux, no news is good news
[05:41] <yokobr> it seems that  /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/sound/ doesnt exists...
[05:41] <balz> ActionParsnip:  so i've noticed.  so what did that command do?
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> mrbiscuit78: give it a bit to close down
[05:41] <mrbiscuit78> danbh_intrepid: whats that
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> balz: the 000 bit means everyone ever can write to it
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> balz: and read
[05:41] <danbh_intrepid> mrbiscuit78: its a command to close firefox,  You can use it if you get the error msg that firefox is still open
[05:41] <mrbiscuit78> ActionParsnip: i do like i will close it down and 10 mins later open it and i will get that message
[05:42] <PoisonArrow> hey ActionParsnip can you take a look at the first link and tell me what the "From Inside Ubuntu" parts means . Does it mean without using the livecd?
[05:42] <balz> ActionParsnip:  awesome!  so now i just have to mount?  or i may as well reboot?
[05:42] <GodfatherofEire> ActionParsnip: You see what I mean when I say that there's nothin else there?
[05:42] <BlueEagle> yokobr: how close do you get?
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> balz: its mounted now
[05:42] <balz> ActionParsnip:  and is there a place where all those numbers are explained?  like a chart or something?
[05:42] <balz> oh. oh wow. i'm dense lol
[05:42] <BlueEagle> yokobr: ie. does /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/ exist?
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> balz: make sure you can write as user
[05:42] <mrbiscuit78> danbh_intrepid: do i but that in a terminal
[05:43] <danbh_intrepid> mrbiscuit78: yes
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> PoisonArrow: im not sure, its not very clear, the live cd is technically ubuntu too
[05:43] <balz> ActionParsnip:  i'll just try to create a directory or something
[05:43] <mrbiscuit78> danbh_intrepid: ok give me a sec
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> balz: www.google.com www.ask.com is what i'd use
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> balz: touch /media/500g/test.txt
[05:44] <yokobr> /lib/modules/2.6.27-5-generic/kernel/sound
[05:44] <linuxgeekery> well.  noswap didn't help at all
[05:44] <cjmaster> Hey um... Well I asked this question before, but I couldn't quite understand it, so i'll ask again :P Well I'm on a LAN and theres another computer that hasa vista on it, and i want to get items from its public folder. The other computer has no passwords. How can I go about doing this?
[05:44] <GodfatherofEire> Action Parsnip: You http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=15x0p39&s=4 Just take a look at that, and you'll see what I mean.
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs-3g | cjmaster
[05:45] <Flannel> !samba | cjmaster
[05:45] <smm289> whats the fastest utility to create a .tar.bz2 archive. I'm using the one built into gnome hardy and it seems a little slow
[05:45] <yokobr> BlueEagle, /lib/modules/2.6.27-5-generic/kernel/sound          -> soundcore.ko and sound_firmware.ko
[05:45] <cjmaster> Yea i tried using samba... couldn't quite understand it though. >.>
[05:45] <BlueEagle> yokobr: Hmm.. I was hoping for something like ck804.ko
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> ﻿GodfatherofEire: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/browse/type:2
[05:45] <linuxgeekery> cansky were you the one helping me earlier?
[05:45] <BlueEagle> yokobr: or something like that.
[05:46] <ariel_> halaw
[05:46] <linuxgeekery> or did I get it totally wrong?
[05:46] <m0rbid> Is there a way to install Ubuntu on a Macbook as the sole OS?
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> smm289: could use the command line
[05:46] <yokobr> well.. i surrender... i need to sleep.... i'll try later (never)....
[05:46] <smm289> ahhh, i'd still rather not :P
[05:46] <GodfatherofEire> ActionParsnip: Thanks for the help
[05:46] <Flannel> m0rbid: How old is the macbook?
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> m0rbid: which macbook?
[05:47] <kkerwin> Hi. I'm trying to get my UVC webcam to work, and am having trouble. luvcview seems to work well, but I can't get it to work in vlc.
[05:47] <m0rbid> Flannel: Intel Duo Core 2, 1gb ram.
[05:47] <cjmaster> What I understand from samba is that you can use it to get to other files. but is there any program or such that'll pernamantly map a network drive on my computer, so i can easilly get to programs?
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> cjmaster: you need smbmount
[05:47] <grizlo42> is there a way to get all the local wireless networks that ubuntu can find?
[05:47] <grizlo42> like on windows
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> cjmaster: to mount a share on anothr system
[05:47] <m0rbid> ActionParsnip: Intel Core 2 Duo
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> m0rbid: tels me nothing, i need the model of macbook.
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> grizlo42: id get wifi-radar
[05:48] <danbh_intrepid> grizlo42: iwlist iface scan
[05:48] <waan> I have a problem with Rhythmbox, it reports the wrong information that what is in the id3 tags, all other audio players have the correct names. I've deleted the database and all rhythmbox files but it still happens when I import my music again.
[05:48] <m0rbid> Model Identifier: Macbook2,1
[05:48] <Flannel> m0rbid: You should just pop in the CD and boot to the installer.
[05:48] <cjmaster> where can i get smbmount?
[05:48] <cjmaster> is it just in add/remove programs?
[05:49] <linuxgeekery> So, if noswap and sda=noprobe doesn't work for stopping Ubuntu from reading the HD, what will?
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> m0rbid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[05:49] <tyso1> actionparsnip: hey does gnash have to be configured before it works? i installed it but i was having problems watching a movie then i uninstalled and switched for adobe and it plays the movie just fone
[05:49] <m0rbid> ActionParsnip: I seen that but that tells you how to install and KEEP osx.
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> linuxgeekery: do you want eventual access to it or do you just want to remove it from the booted system altogether?
[05:49] <cjmaster> I just seached in add/remove progarms, smbmount didn't come up.
[05:49] <linuxgeekery> ActionParsnip: it's dead, so I won't need it anymore
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> m0rbid: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-772836.html
[05:50] <linuxgeekery> I'm just taking it out as soon as I can get a Torx screwdriver :P
[05:50] <Kenthree> I'm having trouble setting up an FTP server; I create a user account and pw but it fails authentication on the client, I tried mutiple servers, any idea?
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> linuxgeekery: turn it off in the bios or do macs not allow that?
[05:50] <linuxgeekery> ActionParsnip: mac has no BIOS, it's EFI
[05:50] <bpat1182> doesn't nvidia-settings come with nvidia-glx-new?
[05:50] <Flannel> m0rbid: Make sure you use rEFIt, and then just keep no OSX partition
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> linuxgeekery: thats really dumb, good ol apple
[05:50] <cjmaster> Question: How do i get smbmount?
[05:50] <nalton> i forgot the plugin for flash player
[05:50] <linuxgeekery> heh
[05:50] <chaddy> cjmaster: install smbfs and run smbmount from the commandline
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: im useless at mac, i dislike apple products,
[05:51] <mib_ltvbz3tm> hey can someone please help my set up my airport?
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> bpat1182: no
[05:51] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: Intel macs are more or less the same.  Actually, with the newest firmware, theres a BIOS emulator
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: just overpriced systems to me, bang for buck is very low
[05:51] <linuxgeekery> I think either Boot Camp or rEFIt can do it
[05:52] <Flannel> m0rbid: What I just remembered is that if you make sure you've upgraded your firmware (may already be at newest versions, I dont know) they have a BIOS emulation thing.  Just Install Ubuntu and it'll figure it all out.
[05:52] <nalton> plz
[05:52] <grizlo42> ﻿danbh_intrepid it says that "interface does not suport scanning"
[05:52] <danbh_intrepid> grizlo42: did you put your wireless iface?
[05:52] <grizlo42> huh?
[05:53] <grizlo42> ﻿danbh_intrepid: what do you mean?>
[05:54] <danbh_intrepid> grizlo42: whats the name of your wireless interface?  if you arent sure, you can just guess: iwlist scan wlan0
[05:54] <cjmaster> Does anyone know where you can get smbmount?
[05:54] <bpat1182> is it possible to twinview three monitors together?  The last one being a different resolution than the other two?
[05:55] <grizlo42> ath0?
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> cjmaster: http://www.linux-noob.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1404
[05:55] <danbh_intrepid> grizlo42: oops, I gave it wrong, truy this: iwlist ath0 scan
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> bpat1182: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3775641
[05:56] <grizlo42> it says doesn't support scanning: network is down
[05:56] <waan> Rhythmbox is displaying the wrong information than what is in the id3 tags, all other audio players have the correct names. I've deleted the database and all rhythmbox files, and also checked the tags in Easy-tag but it still happens when I import my music again
[05:56] <danbh_intrepid> grizlo42: sudo ifup -a
[05:56] <jkristheking> Anyone know demoids channel info?
[05:56] <zetheroo> I would really like to get Pidgin working again ... would someone like to help me sort it out?
[05:56] <jkristheking> demonoids*
[05:56] <tyso1> does someone know what java is best?
[05:56] <chiefwigms> question for you guys - can anyone point me to a good guide to make a multi-os distro usb install disk (backtrack/xp/ubuntu/osx)?
[05:56] <danbh_intrepid> tyso1: sun-java6
[05:57] <chiefwigms> everything i've seen is just small recovery isos, like mem test and the like
[05:57] <chiefwigms> or just one os
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: sudo apt-get --purge remove pidgin; sudo apt-get autoremove; mv ~/.purple ~/.purple_old; sudo apt-get -y install pidgin; pidgin &
[05:57] <tyso1> danbhintrepid: is sun java 6 the only java i need?
[05:57] <grizlo42> ﻿danbh_intrepid: nothing happens, and then ifconfig does not show ath0 still
[05:57] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip : will try that ... and let you know ...
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> !usb | chiefwigms
[05:58] <danbh_intrepid> tyso1: here, run this command instead:: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:58] <grizlo42> i have been using networkmanager....
[05:58] <jmk2> Hi, is there an windows command-line equivalent to linux HEAD or TAIL?
[05:58] <chiefwigms> ubottu: a multi install :)
[05:58] <danbh_intrepid> grizlo42: doesnt network manager work for you?
[05:58] <danbh_intrepid> !netinstall > chiefwigms
[05:59] <PoisonArrow> I used fdisk to delete my partiton sda2 which was an extended partiton, now all it shows is sda1
[05:59] <grizlo42> nope it just shows the network
[05:59] <tyso1> danbhintrepid: what all will this give me?
[05:59] <grizlo42> and shows a 0% connection
[05:59] <chiefwigms> danbh: i've done that before (syslinux etc), its just i don't want to keep deleting the usb disk - i want to be able to install all of um on it just incase one of the installs goes south
[05:59] <danbh_intrepid> tyso1: java, flash, and a bunch of codecs
[06:00] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: last command... not working ...
[06:00] <jmk2> Hi, is there an windows command-line equivalent to linux HEAD or TAIL?
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: do you mean pidgin &
[06:00] <danbh_intrepid> jmk2: you may have better like in #windows
[06:00] <danbh_intrepid> *luck
[06:00] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: yes .. pidgin opens and then disapears
[06:00] <mikethec> got a USB flash drive-related question when someone has an available minute or two.
[06:00] <tyso1> danbhintrepid: this is gonna sound crazy but why is it named ubuntu restricted extras?
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: ok run it without the & and look at the error outputs
[06:01] <danbh_intrepid> tyso1: well, its for the ubuntu distro, all the packages are closed source, and its the extra stuff that people usually want anyway
[06:01] <Jangari> is there a good how-to guide on setting up password-less ssh logging in using keygen? I've followed each religiously but I still get prompted for a password
[06:01] <error404notfound> I am trying to use ubuntu as dom0 for xen. What I can't figure out is which zlib package and latex packages to install under ubuntu...
[06:01] <Jangari> more a bash question actually
[06:02] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/d720a51f4
[06:02] <balz> ActionParsnip:  I'm reading this page (http://www.zzee.com/solutions/unix-permissions.shtml) to try to understand permissions and I'm a bit confused about what we did earlier.  This page says taht 000 is deny-all (user/group/others) ... why did 000 fix my problem and allow my user to write to the disk?
[06:02] <drumstyk1> what is the ipconfig /all command for ubuntu?
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> danbh_intrepid: most packages are open sources
[06:02] <tyso1> danbhintrepid: man where do you guys learn of all this stuff its hard enough for me to figure out how to put a program on my machine let alone know all the names and details about the stuff is there a good tutorial?
[06:03] <drumstyk1> i am trying to find needed info to setup a static ip
[06:03] <danbh_intrepid> balz: umask does the opposite of permissions?
[06:03] <Jangari> try ifconfig drumstyk1
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> balz: the mask is binary compared to 777 and whatever gets throug is allowed access
[06:03] <drumstyk1> hey thank Jangari
[06:03] <drumstyk1> thanks*
[06:03] <error404notfound> any suggestions?
[06:04] <balz> ActionParsnip:  oh man... this is worse than that time I tried mushrooms.  so mask is a different method of defining permissions?
[06:04] <balz> sorry, i'm just trying to figure out how to do this for myself lol
[06:04] <mikethec> Are there any good ways to "fix" a SanDisk Cruzer Micro USB flash drive I suddenly seem to be having access problems with?
[06:04] <danbh_intrepid> tyso1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions
[06:04] <faileas> anyone here's used mondo before? i'm baffled to why after burning backup cd 1 its burning another cd 1
[06:05] <frybye> hi - how do I get a manual - for example man mplay to open in gedit so that I can search it??
[06:05] <balz> ActionParsnip:  i'm not sure i understand what the relationship between umask and chmod is...
[06:05] <Stupendoussteve> balz, the mask is essentially trhe default permissions
[06:05] <Stupendoussteve> but reversed
[06:05] <EvilTchnlgy_> control-f?
[06:05] <frybye> e e e I mean   man mplayer   for example..
[06:05] <Jangari> frybye, you can search by hitting / in any man page
[06:05] <frybye> oh i c.. thanks..
[06:05] <EvilTchnlgy_> frybye: it opens in gedit right?
[06:06] <balz> Stupendoussteve ... so what's the point of having it?
[06:06] <user11> ariel
[06:06] <balz> as opposed to regular permissions
[06:06] <Stupendoussteve> balz, when you create a file it needs some sort of permissions
[06:06] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: any idea as to whats going on with my install of Pidgin?
[06:06] <balz> right
[06:06] <Stupendoussteve> balz, those are obtained via the umask
[06:06] <airtonix> balz, what do you call regular permissions :)
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: looks like theres a plugin causing an issue, websearch for pidgin org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown
[06:06] <balz> airtonix:  oh god. who knows lol.
[06:06] <Jangari> frybye, then, to see next search results, hit / and enter
[06:07] <balz> Stupendoussteve:  okay, so where is the umask located usually?
[06:07] <airtonix> balz, if your mean regular as in something like : chmos +ax ./script-to-make-executable then those are shortcuts to the umask
[06:07] <Jangari> in one's .profile or .bashrc
[06:07] <airtonix> balz, chmod*
[06:07] <Jangari> balz
[06:07] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: hmmm ... when Pidgin as working I had not installed any plugins ... but maybe there are some activated by default!?
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> balz: if you'd used a umask of 700 then the owner (lefmost number) would have no access.
[06:07] <Stupendoussteve> balz, it is in one of the rc files or profile, but can be changed on the fly via the umask utility
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> balz: you invert the bits in the umask and yuo get the access of the same chmod
[06:08] <balz> Oooh I get it.  the the umaks holds the defaults for a particular drive in terms of permissions
[06:08] <Stupendoussteve> Not a drive, everything created by the account
[06:08] <airtonix> balz, windows has the same concept although its hidden amongst menus and guis
[06:08] <phreakk> hey all
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> balz: yeah
[06:08] <balz> and chmod is a command to change the umask?
[06:08] <PoisonArrow> how can I save my firefox bookmarks?
[06:08] <Stupendoussteve> chmod changes the permissions
[06:08] <Stupendoussteve> umask sets the default permissions
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> balz: the umask is the drive itself, yuo can cjhmod and chown individual files as you see fit
[06:08] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: how is it that this would happen from one day the the next ?
[06:09] <airtonix> balz, woops ignore my statement
[06:09] <drumstyk1> sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces won't pick up the correct NIC... is there a way to specify eth0?
[06:09] <DigitalFiz> is there a way to keep gnome from showing removable media on the desktop?
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: not sure, you could remove pidgin and deps as well as apt-get clean to remove the old .deb so a fresh one is installed
[06:09] <balz> I see.  So umask is the baseline state of the drive, and you can change file/directory permissions relative to the umask
[06:10] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: ok... hows that again?
[06:10] <airtonix> DigitalFiz, yes...by editing values in gconf-editor
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: yuo can configure eth0 as well as other network devices in that file
[06:10] <DigitalFiz> ty airtonix
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: sudo apt-get clean
[06:10] <airtonix> DigitalFiz, you need to look under apps -> nautilus
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: then press up untill you see the command I gave you
[06:11] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: the install one?
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: yeah, the long one
[06:11] <komp-17> PADA SIANG
[06:11] <balz> ActionParsnip:  so now all files created on my drive will default to 777? since the umask is 000?
[06:11] <Stupendoussteve> balz, Yes
[06:11] <Stupendoussteve> balz, open a terminal and do "touch filename"
[06:11] <Stupendoussteve> then ls -l filename
[06:11] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: umm
[06:11] <DigitalFiz> ty again airtonix
[06:11] <Stupendoussteve> you'll see that the file is wide open for anyone to do anything with
[06:11] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: seems like clean ddi not get rid of the downloaded .deb
[06:12] <balz> Stupendoussteve:  what does touch filename do?
[06:12] <drumstyk1> ActionParsnip: all it returns is the following. is this normal and i just don't know what im doing?
[06:12] <drumstyk1> auto lo
[06:12] <drumstyk1> iface lo inet loopback
[06:12] <Stupendoussteve> balz, touch creates an empty file
[06:12] <Stupendoussteve> filename is just the name
[06:12] <mikethec> frybue: man mplayer > ~/Desktop/manplayer_manual.txt   will create a straight text file with the contents of the mplayer manpage entry.
[06:12] <Stupendoussteve> lets you see the umask demonstrated
[06:12] <balz> ooh i see. hence 0 filename
[06:12] <mikethec> frybye: sorry...
[06:12] <balz> and that's it's umask... the permission is 777
[06:13] <Stupendoussteve> If umask is set to 000, then any file created will be 777
[06:13] <balz> It all makes sense!
[06:13] <mikethec> Does anyone in here have a background in the functioning of USB flash drives?
[06:13] <balz> Thanks a bunch!
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: then you can add lines for eth0
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: auto eth0
[06:14] <balz> Stupendoussteve:  what if I wanted to change my umask such that permissions defaulted to 775?
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[06:14] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: ok I did the complete removal of Pidgin, pidgin-data and libpurple0 from Synaptic ... and reinstalled them
[06:14] <Jangari> balz, umask gives the permissions with which a file or directory will be created by default. But certain processes or applications will create files and directories with permissions different from the umask defined ones. Chmod allows you to manually override the umask definitions for individual files/directories
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> balz: 002
[06:14] <Jangari> a umask of something like 002 will give you 775 modes
[06:14] <drumstyk1> ActionParsnip: should i erase what's there or just add that to the end?
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: cool, also rename the ~/.purple folder if you have 1
[06:14] <WIGGMPk> Every time I boot up, my sound plays when the login screen is available, but after that I have to open up a terminal and execute "sudo alsa force-reload" what can I do to prevent this?
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: add it
[06:14] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: still the same issue ... Pidgin opens and closes right away
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=776241
[06:15] <voglster> sigh... learning to author your own dvds you make alot of coasters...
[06:15] <balz> ActionParsnip... what would the full command be for a drive currently mounted at /media/500gb.  the partition name is sdb1
[06:15] <Stupendoussteve> balz, one thing is umask cannot set a file executable
[06:15] <balz> sorry:  Stupendoussteve, that was for you
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> balz: the same as I gave you just change the umask, try
[06:15] <balz> ActionParsnip:  oh right. duh! lol
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> balz: history | grep mask
[06:16] <Appi> appi
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> balz: will allow you to copy the old command
[06:16] <Stupendoussteve> balz, so it will not be full 777 but 666 even with 000
[06:16] <balz> ActionParsnip:  got it!
[06:16] <balz> Stupendoussteve:  can I expect that to cause any problems?
[06:16] <Jangari> can you set a umask for a drive? I thought it was a user-specific thing
[06:17] <Stupendoussteve> balz, depends what files you are attempting to create
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> Jangari: absolutely
[06:17] <Jangari> where's the config file that contains the umask for a directory then?
[06:17] <Stupendoussteve> balz, if they need to be executable then it could be
[06:17] <Stupendoussteve> Jangari, it is set for your shell
[06:17] <balz> it's just videos and symlinks... so i think it should be fine, right?
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> Jangari: you set the umask for the mounted partition in fstab OR when you mount it
[06:17] <Stupendoussteve> balz, those don't need to be executable
[06:17] <Jangari> ah, right
[06:18] <balz> Okay. well umask 000 seems to work, so i guess 002 will also
[06:18] <Jangari> in the 'options' table?
[06:18] <Jangari> noauto,user,umask=002,noexec, that sort of thing?
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> Jangari: totally, ask balz, s/he knows it well ;)
[06:19] <frybye> thanks all...
[06:19] <balz> ActionParsnip:  lol you have made me an expert, along with Stupendoussteve!
[06:19] <erwin_> hi i'm having problem with my new ubuntu installation.. it doesn't have network.. :(
[06:19] <Stupendoussteve> balz, it's a rusty thing for me so it's good to relearn it
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> balz: as long as you learn and can pass on knowledge :D
[06:19] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: wireless or wired? a clean insteall?
[06:19] <erwin_> EvilTchnlgy_: wired, sis gigabit eth
[06:20] <balz> Stupendoussteve:  yeah it's not entirely uninteresting, etiher.  Definitely a good thing to understand now that my server is open to the big-bad-internets
[06:20] <roxrolly22> hi
[06:20] <balz> ActionParsnip:  does the drive have to be dismounted for your command to work?
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> balz: then that sort of thing is essential to help secure your stuff
[06:20] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: http://www.howtoforge.com/creating-the-sis191-gigabit-ethernet-driver-on-linux-2.6
[06:20] <rfxcasey> I need to chat with someone knowledgable to ask then a few questions
[06:21] <Flannel> !anyone | rfxcasey
[06:21] <EvilTchnlgy_> just ask the community and anyone who kows will respond
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> balz: yes the mask is applied at boot, you may want to add the mask to your /etc/fstab so its persistant after reboots etc
[06:21] <EvilTchnlgy_> *knows
[06:21] <erwin_> EvilTchnlgy_: been there,.. aren't there any patches on recent kernels?
[06:21] <Shakedown> Does anybody...?
[06:21] <balz> ActionParsnip:  yeah the last thing I need is all my media server's content streaming across the internet
[06:22] <erwin_> EvilTchnlgy_: the linux source from the repository isn't the same with the one on the link
[06:22] <ubuntu_todd> jrib: It is well done. But how could I see all the links I have already made?
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> balz: nice to see a lack of ignorance :)
[06:22] <Shakedown> Anybody got an ATI HD graphics card succesfully dual-monitoring?
[06:22] <MikeTheC> Got a question about USB flash drives. Anyone got a minute or two?
[06:22] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: there are always patches but i don't know ift hat ahs been adressed... did you have any issues following those instructions? what version of ubuntu are you running?
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> MikeTheC: ask in the room
[06:22] <aga^_^> how to fix GRUB Hard disk error
[06:22] <Darksoul_> test
[06:22] <aga^_^> please help me
[06:22] <Stupendoussteve> Darksoul_, success
[06:22] <rfxcasey> I have a program that works fine when I go to it's directory and click on it. But if a make a link to the desktop or the main menu it doesn't launch.
[06:22] <Jangari> !ask
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> aga^_^: please provide more detail
[06:22] <balz> ActionParsnip;  you flatter me.  You clearly haven't seen me wrestle with *nix.  Quick question... where does the umask go in the fstab.  Should I pastebin mine?
[06:23] <balz> !ask|aga^_^
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> balz: the fstab uses essentially the same format as mount
[06:23] <Darksoul_> Hey, I have an issue with my hard drive. I keep getting data corruption every time I shut down my PC. I keep getting NTLRD boot errors in windows, and in linux when I try accessing my Main partion it says its in use. HELP!
[06:23] <Jangari> it goes under 'options', balz,
[06:23] <erwin_> EvilTchnlgy_: hardy, 2.6.24-16, currently as of the moment is at 2.6.24-19 i think
[06:23] <EvilTchnlgy_> aga^_^: and include any recent changes you've made...
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> balz: if you look at your current fstab it may give clues
[06:24] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: well there was no real solution there ... and I don't have Pidgin-libnotify installed
[06:24] <rfxcasey> I have a program that works fine when I go to it's directory and click on it. But if a make a link to the desktop or the main menu it does't launch.
[06:24] <MikeTheC> I have a SanDisk Cruzer Micro that used to work correctly but now the data is all corrupted, I can no longer write to it, etc. I've tried working on it with fsck, and also parted and gparted, all timing out or otherwise generating access-related errors. I even tried working on it using Disk Utility on my Leopard box, but it won't touch it.
[06:24] <Shakedown> Anybody got an ATI HD graphics card successfully dual-monitoring?
[06:24] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: taking a look
[06:24] <WIGGMPk> Is there a way to adjust the SWAP partition size after the install?
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: its that early on error you need to research is all i can suggest
[06:24] <erwin_> EvilTchnlgy_: i mean i have 2.6.24-16 and currently 2.6.24-19 is what is on the repository
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> !dualhead | Shakedown
[06:25] <EvilTchnlgy_> did you try updating your kernel?
[06:25] <EvilTchnlgy_> *@erwin
[06:25] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: yep ... I have been researching it for roughly a week
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> erwin_: sudo apt-get distupgrade
[06:25] <erwin_> EvilTchnlgy_: i cant update, i don't have network
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: could email the pidgin devs, provide s much info as possible
[06:25] <Flannel> !swap | WIGGMPk
[06:25] <ubuntu_todd> how to get a list of all the links between files?
[06:25] <Flannel> WIGGMPk: Yep, that page explains it all.
[06:25] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: ahh, yes. silly me thank you
[06:25] <Darksoul_> I really need help. Ubuntu errors up and says its in use, then another error comes up saying "DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply:Did not receive a reply.
[06:25] <Shakedown> thanks ubottu
[06:26] <erwin_> EvilTchnlgy_: np :)
[06:26] <MikeTheC> What I'm wondering is if there's some kind of flash drive-specific utility out there, or some process with the bundled utilities on my Ubuntu 8.04 box I can use.
[06:26] <balz> ActionParsnip:  does it go next to "realtime"?
[06:26] <WIGGMPk> Flannel: thanks
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> balz: can i see your fstab
[06:26] <Shakedown> I've found plenty of HowTo's but none mention the ATI HD cards (at least I don't think they do, perhaps they have another name)
[06:26] <erwin_> EvilTchnlgy_: is it safe to download the packages needed and install them offline?
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> balz: id also sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab_old
[06:26] <aga^_^> my ubuntu cannot start from hard disk
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> balz: backup is good
[06:26] <Darksoul_> is it that nobody is willing to help me, or nobody is paying attention?
[06:27] <zetheroo> Flannel: would you have any ideas as to why my Pidgin is no longer working?
[06:27] <balz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/56898/
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> aga^_^: does grub load?
[06:27] <aga^_^> GRUB Hard disk error
[06:27] <Darksoul_> -.-
[06:27] <aga^_^> but can start with CD
[06:27] <drumstyk1> whoever can tell me how to find my gateway and dns-nameservers gets a hug!
[06:27] <zetheroo> I posted my problem here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=776241
[06:27] <zetheroo> last post
[06:28] <Darksoul_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=945537
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> bals: yeah stick a comma after realtime then add the options you used to mount stuff
[06:28] <rfxcasey> I need help with program links not working
[06:28] <Darksoul_> ActionParsnip: Can you see what im saying.
[06:28] <Shakedown> Is dual-monitoring possible using the proprietary fglrx driver for my ATI HD card?
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: ifconfig
[06:28] <Flannel> Darksoul_: More likely that no one who is awake knows
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: nslookup www.google.com
[06:28] <aga^_^> when im boot from CD then select boot from first had disk, the GRUB are running normaly
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: that wil tell you your dns
[06:29] <Darksoul_> Flannel: Ok, thought for a second people just couldn't see what I was saying... so you have no idea whats wrong?
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: you can also run nano /etc/resolv.conf
[06:29] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_, it's possible it could be an actual HDD failure.
[06:29] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin_: why not jsut install 7.10? it should come with 2.6.22-14
[06:29] <drumstyk1> i can't find the gateway in that
[06:29] <drumstyk1> but you get a hug anyway
[06:29] <Darksoul_> Flannel: it's not the HDD, I've tested it with another HDD. The other HDD died on me in partioning.
[06:29] <EvilTchnlgy_> and then run that how-to off of a cd?
[06:29] <erwin_> EvilTchnlgy_: is that feisty? you mean i have to downgrade?
[06:29] <op3r> hello have anyone remembered if there's a doc about installing ubuntu on many computers?
[06:29] <aga^_^> when im boot from CD then select boot from first had disk, the GRUB are running normaly
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> aga^_^: you need to gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:30] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: 1 sec. let me look back. maybe i misread what you wrote..
[06:30] <Darksoul_> Flannel: I'm thinking its either the SATA controller or the power supply. Can lack of power cause the HDD to do this crap?.
[06:30] <balz> ActionParsnip:  okay. i added iocharset=utf8 and umask=002.  what does the first one do?
[06:30] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_, have you gotten any other kinds of symptoms? SMART failures? Unusual noises? Slow system performance when no other accountable changes have occurred? Anything?
[06:30] <Shakedown> Is dual-monitoring possible using the proprietary fglrx driver for my ATI HD card?
[06:30] <op3r> Any docs on how to make ubuntu easier to install on about like 50 ro more computers?
[06:30] <Flannel> Darksoul_: you mean MikeTheC
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> balz: i believe its a characterset definition
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: should be
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> !xinerama | Shakedown
[06:31] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_, gimme a sec and let me look at the link you listed earlier.
[06:31]  * GM-Cosmo_PW gives MikeTheC a whale
[06:31] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: No, in Vista I was able to boot up after repairing, but had data corruption in movies (quality was gone) and in source games "your map differs from server". In XP it just corrupted the NTLRD and chkdsk couldn't repair it. Haven't tested it in linux yet.
[06:31] <Shakedown> I don't know what !X is
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> !X | Shakedown
[06:31] <Flannel> !x | Shakedown
[06:31] <balz> ActionParsnip:  what's a characterset definition?  Should I include it along with umask=002?
[06:31] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: But I am running on livecd right now.
[06:31] <Shakedown> Ahh
[06:32] <op3r> anyone?
[06:32] <Shakedown> By using xinerama can I still use the proprietary driver?
[06:32] <rfxcasey> Need help please. When I go to dir and click the executible the program starts but when I make a link to main menu the sceen flashes and lock my machine any ideas
[06:33] <erwin_> EvilTchnlgy_: I'm running hardy :D.. anyway just like to know if it's safe to just download the kernel packages and install them offline..
[06:33] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: I'm thinking it could be bad RAM.
[06:33] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: sorry if u already said this but I can't seem to find it... what release are you running?
[06:33] <varun_> guys anyone know how to get flash working on x64?
[06:33] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: ahh thanks
[06:33] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: I did a memtest, it checked out. Even though I only did it to 50 percent.
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> balz: its not eseential, it just means western european charset, if you use none english chars (e.g. chines) you need to specify another set so the characters on the drive display right
[06:33] <Flannel> op3r: These my help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Server%20and%20network%20installations
[06:33] <erwin_> EvilTchnlgy_: hardy :)
[06:33] <op3r> Flannel: thanks
[06:33] <rfxcasey> varun_, what's the problem
[06:33] <balz> ActionParsnip:  cool. thanks again!
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> varun_: get nonfree and nspluginwrapper
[06:34] <op3r> Flannel: because I am about to install it on over 50 computers :(
[06:34] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: well, you can. just make sure you back everything that you need upp first as it isn't always quite as clean as a netupdate
[06:34] <rfxcasey> varun_, does everything else work
[06:34] <balz> ActionParsnip;  i'll reboot to make sure it's all dandy
[06:34] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: I mean, I suppose anything is possible, but my gut says bad RAM. Obviously, you could take that HDD to another box and go through the setup and see what happens.
[06:34] <EvilTchnlgy_> then after you go get the ethernet running run sudo apt-get update
[06:34] <Darksoul_> MikeThec: I've also checked voltage and timings, and forced the correct timing and voltage. The only thing I could think of is the ram is to fast. Its supposed to be 800Mhz in Dual channel but my CPU clock speed is 3.25Ghz so the ram reports 465Mhz, after dual channel that doubles.
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> varun_: then find the .so for flash and nspluginwrapper -i it
[06:34] <hosstest> What app can I use for RAR archives?
[06:34] <Flannel> op3r: I know complete automation is doable, but am unaware of any wiki pages covering that.  preseed files and stuch.
[06:35] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: I know it works fine in another box, it could be a bad SATA controller. Would bad voltage cause these problems with the hard drive?.
[06:35] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: Well, yeah, I suppose that could also cause it. Can you step the timings, etc. down in your BIOS.
[06:35] <erwin_> ok will try.. you which packages i need? :D
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> hosstest: unrar
[06:35] <rfxcasey> varun_, make sure stop script pluggin isn't blocking it
[06:35] <hosstest> ActionParsnip:  Thanks
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> hosstest: unrar x /path/to/file.rar
[06:35] <EvilTchnlgy_> sudo apt-get install rar
[06:35] <EvilTchnlgy_> sudo ln -fs /usr/bin/rar /usr/bin/unrar
[06:35] <Darksoul_> MikeThec: I did, and it seemed faster. But I'm still getting this damn data corruption.
[06:35] <op3r> Flannel: but its more possible to just do it like the centos way where you can just edit anaconda?
[06:35] <Flannel> op3r: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization/PreseedExamples  and the parent page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[06:35] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: "Bad" voltage? Like undervoltage, or "dirty" as in irregular voltage?
[06:35] <Darksoul_> MikeThec: The PSU I have right now came with the mATX case, so its pretty cheap.
[06:36] <MikeTheC> What's the wattage rating on the PSU?
[06:36] <rfxcasey> What are files without extensions and can make there extension anything you want
[06:36] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: let me see real quick, wanan reread what yous aid to mae sure I'm not misinforming you
[06:36] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: I'm thinking irregular. The PSU seems to start blowing its fan pretty hard whenever I try reading from the hard drive.
[06:36] <Flannel> op3r: ah ha: the latter of those last two links has a section on preseeding, and also links here: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/preseed-using.html
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> rfxcasey: most are text, whats the files full path and name
[06:36] <rfxcasey> it the launcher for vegastrike
[06:37] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: What's the PSU's wattage rating?
[06:37] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip, it's the vegastrike launcher
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> rfxcasey: try: file <file>
[06:37] <erwin_> EvilTchnlgy_: basically i just wanna try the new kernel version.. install em offline and see if my card works :D
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> rfxcasey: itll tell you what it is
[06:37] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: 420, 450 max output.
[06:37] <op3r> Flannel: thanks man.
[06:37] <EvilTchnlgy_> darksoul: I would check the amperage on the 12v rail aswell...
[06:37] <slambert> hi, just upgraded on a dell inspiron 1420 and it failed.  I'm getting a black screen with (among other things) "kinit: No resume image, doing normal reboot... Ubuntu 7.10 dell tty1" and a dell login prompt.  Searched google, but no luck
[06:37] <Darksoul_> EvilTchnlgy_: 14A and 16A
[06:37] <erwin_> EvilTchnlgy_: now what's missing is that i do not know which ps
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> rfxcasey: e.g: file /usr/bin/firefox
[06:38] <erwin_> EvilTchnlgy_: now what's missing is that i do not know which specific packages i will be needing :D
[06:38] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: What kind of display card do you have in that box?
[06:38] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: for the kernel update?
[06:38] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip, hey if I click on this vegastrike file it starts the game but if I make a link to the desktop or main menu and click that it freezes and I have to reboot x any idea what the problem is
[06:38] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: you ened to make sure you manually install the dependencies first since its offline
[06:38] <inyourgroove> can i put a cookie in my cd-rom drive?
[06:38] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: then sudo should be fine
[06:38] <Darksoul_> It's powering a 8800GT, it can't supply full power under full load and that crashes the system. HOWEVER, this data corruption issue has been here before I put in the 8800GT, and at that time I was using a 780G intergrated
[06:39] <pablo> This is not actually an Ubuntu issue, but I wanted to ask if it sounds normal at least. When I boot my computer for the first time after it has been off for a while, the screen looks weird, white lines appear and some seconds later everything looks okay. It's like the video card is stablizing or something. It's a Dell XPS M1330. Any ideas?
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> slambert: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/103148
[06:39] <Shakedown> "It is advisable to install the graphics card's binary driver before configuring dual monitors" Does binary = proprietary in this case?
[06:39] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: after you download the kernel update run dpkg -i kernalfile
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> rfxcasey: try cd ~/.Desktop; ln -s /path/to/file
[06:40] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: Hmm... Could be a bad PSU, I suppose. I mean, if you really put it in the hole, I suppose it could undervoltage the HDD in a way that would present the symptoms you're talking about.
[06:40] <spartan> inyourgroove: tecnically you can, but you will not like the results
[06:40] <slambert> ActionParsnip: thanks.  I saw that, but I wasn't clear what action I could take.  Any suggestions?
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> slambert: no idea man, seems quite common
[06:40] <MikeTheC> What was your motive for changing out your graphics card in the first place?
[06:40] <erwin_> EvilTchnlgy_: okay will try installing the new kernel offline :D
[06:40] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: But thats the thing, it works fine unless I leave it off for a few minutes to a few hours. The data corruption is still there but at least I can boot into windows. After a hour or so of the system being off I can't boot up, I can't repair it either. Chkdsk says unable to repair
[06:40] <slambert> ActionParsnip: yikes.  I can't get this to boot at all though... there's gotta be a way...
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> rfxcasey: or make a bash script to cd to the containing folder then run the file
[06:41] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: make sure you have ALL the dependencies installed first, at their required versions
[06:41] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: or you could endup havig to insstall the rescue kernel to save your install
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> slambert: what release are you using?
[06:42] <slambert> ActionParsnip: I just updated though the gui.  Though the prompt says 7.10?  Therefor, not sure
[06:42] <drumstyk1> restarting my network after changing my /etc/network/interfaces in an attempt to setup a static ip gives me these errors: http://pastebin.com/m494001e8 if anyone can spare a moment to help, i would be very appreciative
[06:42] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: How old is the MB?
[06:42] <pantaloon> Hey, does anyone know if it's possible to have video thumbnail previews in nautilus without using totem?
[06:43] <macvr> hi all... does anyone know how to make the windows list display from right rather than the default left? is this possible?
[06:43] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: It's around three months old, but I've only used it for a month or two. The MB has had problems (not mine, for others) but not data corruption. However, it's won three customer choice awards on newegg.
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> slambert: thats gutsy
[06:43] <Shakedown> Coming from Windows, I installed things to C:/Program Files.  Now that I'm using linux, where's the appropriate/common place to install things to?
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: you dont worry about it, apt-get sorts it all for you
[06:43] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: Probably could be a bad unit. I'd suggest swapping it out and see what happens.
[06:43] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2814
[06:44] <Shakedown> Like, what's the C:/Program Files equivalent?
[06:44] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: When I contacted gigabyte about the problem their response was to check all the components connected to the system. I doubt they will take it back or RMA it
[06:44] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip, I tried that not sure if I understand what your saying completely
[06:44] <Shakedown> ActionParsnip: But what if I install things manually?
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: binarys usually go to /usr/bin and libs go to /usr/lib
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: you'll use deb which will install where they need to go, and compiling source will have make install which will do the same
[06:45] <Shakedown> binaries = the binary source files for programs, right?
[06:45] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip, cd ~/.Desktop; In -s /home/rfxcasey/Games/vegastrike/bin/vegastrike-64
[06:45] <Shakedown> So what are libs?
[06:45] <Shakedown> ActionParsnip: deb?
[06:45] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip, bash: cd: /home/rfxcasey/.Desktop: No such file or directory
[06:45] <amenado> binaries is not source, binaries are binaries
[06:45] <pantaloon> I uninstalled totem, and I'm loving VLC, but sadly, no thumbnails anymore...wondering if I can use VLC to generate thumbs
[06:45] <Shakedown> aren't binaries the assembled source files?
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: its a package for debian based systems
[06:46] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: Just checked out user reviews on http://reviews.pricegrabber.com/motherboards/m/63577396/st=product/sv=review/
[06:46] <Shakedown> Is Ubuntu a debian based system?
[06:46] <amenado> binaries are the compiled from the source
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: kind of yes
[06:46] <G0SUB> Shakedown: yes
[06:46] <MikeTheC> Generally, they're comments vis a vis hardware suggest the northbridge gets real hot.
[06:46] <MikeTheC> er... *their
[06:46] <MikeTheC> Other than that...
[06:46] <arooni-mobile> i have a few bits of text (< 8 lines of text) that i often need to copy/paste into gmail and IM windows.  i know about klipper and glipper but they don't seem to let me persist common pastes (just copy things i have copied/pasted recently) .... any program reccommended for ubuntu hardy?
[06:46] <Shakedown> So what are libs?
[06:47] <amenado> libs are short for libraries
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: stuff binarys use
[06:47] <Shakedown> So the .jar's and such?
[06:47] <Darksoul_> MikeThec: thats correct. I've seen it hit 120+C, but Gigabyte said its been tested at that temp and its fine. When I asked about specs for a aftermarket cooler they wouldn't tell me.
[06:47] <MikeTheC> It could be a bad CPU, but not likely as usually MBs are pretty good about not POSTing if a CPU is crap.
[06:47] <EvilTchnlgy_> sort of like dll's
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: but multiple binarys can use the same libs, the libs are dependancies
[06:47] <amenado>  a jar is an archive
[06:47] <Shakedown> Right
[06:47] <Peddy> hey everyone, can you please help me with making root-run applications have the same GTK theme as normal-user-run applications? Thanks :D
[06:47] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: I have a spare CPU - the same CPU - I could swap it out and see, but I doubt thats the problem.
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: this makes apps smaller as you only download the lib once
[06:48] <amenado> all kinds of files can be contained in a jar file
[06:48] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: I've stressed the cpu with prime95, no errors.
[06:48] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: I doubt it is, too. I really wouldn't be comfortable with a NB that runs really hot, tho...
[06:48] <Shakedown> So, should I ever have to manually tell something where to install to?
[06:48] <waan> Rhythmbox is importing my music with incorrect id3 information, i've deleted the rhythmbox database but it keeps happening, any idea what the problem might be?
[06:48] <macvr> does anyone use xchat? how do u bookmark a channel. but not have it startup when the program starts?
[06:48] <drumstyk1> 1200 people in this room and no one knows how to setup a static ip? i have been sifting through google searches for about 3 hours and it really shouldn't be this hard... is there a kind soul out there?
[06:48] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: But my guess is either bad RAM, or something funky on the MB.
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: correct, its massively rare. i wouldnt sweat it
[06:49] <spartan> waan:  fix your id3 tags
[06:49] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: I'm gonna take something funky on the MB. I've run ram tests and I've stressed the RAM with prime95 was well, no issues.
[06:49] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: did you redo the naming in another program?
[06:49] <arooni-mobile> is there a notes program for ubuntu hardy that syncs notes from different ubuntu computers?  and also hopefully accessible online too?
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: if you did itd be so hard for linux noobs to have to remeber where they installed libs
[06:49] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: When you say the unit won't boot if you do it too soon, do you mean it won't POST, or it won't physically pwoer on?
[06:49] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: timings 5-4-4-15, voltage 2.1.
[06:49] <waan> spartan, EvilTchnlgy_: They are all correct and work fine with all other programs
[06:50] <Shakedown> Hm...okay, so if I download something and it comes with a makefile, I should 'make' the file and I won't have to tell it where to install to?
[06:50] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: I mean, if I wait a hour or so and try booting up again windows gives me the NTLRD error and when I boot up windows recovery disk and do a chkdsk /R, it wont work. But if it was only a few minutes, it works.
[06:50] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: in rhythmbox, how do they appear?
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: gentoo and the like allow you to choose where you install to but ubuntu does it all for you so its easier for linux users taking baby steps
[06:50] <waan> spartan: EvilTchnlgy_: Even the album cover shows the correct cover, but the album name is different
[06:50] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: But the computer always reliably turns on and actually POSTs, though?
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: make only compiles it, the sudo make install will put the files where the make file says
[06:50] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: so it takes other album names from the same artist and replace them?
[06:50] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: correct
[06:50] <spartan> waan are they in latin1 charset?
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: its rare you'll compile as most software is in the repos
[06:50] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip, when I put in file vegastrike-64 I get this vegastrike-64: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped
[06:50] <drowner> helo everybody
[06:50] <drowner> hello
[06:51] <waan> spartan: They are all UTF-8 afaik, I used easy-tag to clear and re-write them all
[06:51] <drowner> Guys - little help
[06:51] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: It's possible when I shut down windows the PSU deliverys a incorrect voltage. Say to much or two little and it causes the corruption. But thats a theory.
[06:51] <spartan> waan:  idk then
[06:51] <drowner> I have my music library split between 2 hard drives, one internal and one external connnected via USB
[06:51] <EvilTchnlgy_> hey drowner, what's your problem
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> rfxcasey: then its a binary
[06:51] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: No, it takes the old album name it used to have, even though I've changed it. There are about 30 songs with this problem.
[06:51] <Shakedown> What's the difference between Applications -> Add/Remove and Synaptic Package Manager/apt-get?
[06:52] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: all from different albums
[06:52] <drowner> so, what I want to do is to mount one of the partitions on my external drive into ~/Music/linux-music
[06:52] <drowner> when it gets plugged in
[06:52] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: you changed the names inside of rhythmbox?
[06:52] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip, so why won't a link work on it? I can create working links for other files
[06:52] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: Check this Anandtech link out: http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3279&p=4
[06:52] <EvilTchnlgy_> drowner: go on
[06:52] <drowner> I right clicked on it, and filled that into the 'mount point' options under volume, but it didn't work, it said that the mounpoint can't contain characters like /
[06:52] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: Inside rhythmbox, easytag, winamp, id3-tag-it. They are all correct, but when I import into rhythmbox, the old names appear.
[06:52] <drowner> when i remounted
[06:53] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip, would giving it a .bin extension help you think?
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> rfxcasey: maybe it likes to be ran from the working directory, try editing your shortcut to specify the working directory
[06:53] <drowner> but, i'm not sure how else i can get something to mount like that without using a /
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> rfxcasey: no, extensions mean very little in linux
[06:53] <drowner> and I don't really want to edit my fstab to have a drive which is only temporarily connected in there, if that makes sense
[06:53] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: the files are all chmoded 775
[06:54] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: i was aout to ask... do you get the same results if your un rhythmbox as root?
[06:54] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip, Not sure I know what you mean about working directory. When I make a link it asks me to browse to the file and select it isn't that the working directory
[06:54] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: My concern is that maybe this is an issue with the 780G chipset. It seems like some kind of data corruption is cropping up even on the nVidia MBs...
[06:54] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: I don't think that would be relevant, since amarok has correct tag readings
[06:54] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: g) Possible HDD corruption issues. (We lost the two 74GB WD Raptors so far…) it does appear to be my problem..
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> rfxcasey: the working directory is the folder the file is sat in
[06:55] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: it's almost like there is a second database somewhere with incorrect titles that wont correct itself
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> rfxcasey: if you run a link to a file you are in the desktop folder
[06:55] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: maybe im misunderstanding your problem, your saying you open  a file in rhythmbox, change the id3 info. delete it romt he library, and thenr eimport it to rhytmbox and the id3 tag are incorrecyt?
[06:55] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip, what else would a link contain? It is set to the working directory.
[06:55] <EvilTchnlgy_> *from the
[06:55] <drowner> EvilTchnlgy_: you can get to me when you're done with him ;)
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> rfxcasey: you could make a bash script to cd to the folder the binary is in then execute it
[06:55] <EvilTchnlgy_> drwoner: sorry, trying to multitask haha
[06:56] <EvilTchnlgy_> *drowner
[06:56] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: I rename a file, close rhythmbox, and the file is back to original
[06:56] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: Is it possible the CPU Vcore is not enough?. I have it set to 1.35, but PCHEALTH reports it at 1.43ish
[06:56] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: oohhh, i misunderstood
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> anyhoo kids i gotta look after my job responsibilities so i'll love you and leave you
[06:56] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: s/rename/retag
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> peace out
[06:56] <drumstyk1> can anyone tell me whats wrong with my ﻿/etc/network/interfaces??? http://pastebin.com/m11fe5dd3
[06:57] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: Not sure on that... Really never got that much into tweaking those settings myself. *But* the question needs to be asked - how stable is that mobo *really*, y'know?
[06:57] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: Basically, I have about 200 music files from different albums, into my own compilation. But when I try to retag the album to say 'My Album', about 25 of the files didn't change
[06:57] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: It's pretty damn stable. It must be a read/write error with the HDD.
[06:57] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: ok checking something
[06:57] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: even though they are in fact, correctly tagged
[06:58] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: that should make more sense
[06:58] <drumstyk1> can anyone actually read my chats?
[06:58] <tyso1> drumstyk i hera you
[06:58] <waan> drumstyk1: yep
[06:58] <drowner> EvilTchnlgy_: i'll brb in 2 seconds
[06:58] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227248
[06:58] <drumstyk1> ok good... thanks
[06:58] <_2> rfxcasey did you comprehend what actionparsnips was saying about the $PWD ?
[06:58] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103773
[06:59] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: some of the tags are fine though? i would point you to the solutions for a bug that has easytag write a different id3 version but it shouldnt work on any of them at restart of rhytmbox in that case...
[06:59] <_2> drumstyk1 yes.
[06:59] <rfxcasey> _2 I donno the link points to /home/rfxcasey/Games/vegastrike/bin/vegastrike-64
[06:59] <Shakedown> So is xinerama something that I need to install or is it basically some mode/setting that I turn on in my xorg.conf?
[06:59] <sap> Hi, How do I forcibly stop a cd-drive which is constantly trying to access a cd and prevents me from ejecting it ?
[06:59] <drowner> ok, so i'm back
[07:00] <drumstyk1> is it illegal to offer paypal money for help?
[07:00] <rfxcasey> _2, The file being vegastrike-64
[07:00] <_2> rfxcasey but executing the file /home/rfxcasey/Games/vegastrike/bin/vegastrike-64 from within ~/Desktop/
[07:00] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: because i know rhytmbox uses id3 v2,4 and easytag uses 2.3
[07:00] <msshams> ﻿hi, i am sorry but can i find a channel about window$
[07:00] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: So you've got your CPU pushed about 250MHz over, then. Right?
[07:00] <Isendur> Having a little trouble understanding the ubuntu bible near page 192. As I understand it, I would need cp /home/isendur/Desktop/new_file.txt /home/isendur/Desktop/new_file_2.txt to copy txts?
[07:01] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: thats correct, because according to the reviews you can't run the 800Mhz ram at the correct speed if its at 3.0Ghz
[07:01] <rfxcasey> _2, how do you know the difference and how do you change that then
[07:01] <_2> rfxcasey i.e. you may want to use a wraper that will " cd /home/rfxcasey/Games/vegastrike/bin/ ;./vegastrike-64 "
[07:01] <HymnToLife> !windows | msshams
[07:01] <EvilTchnlgy_> darksoul: i've missed most of your discussion, but if you oced did you try restting your cmos jumper to see if the cpu clockspeed reset helped?
[07:01] <EvilTchnlgy_> darksould: if it's a power issue...
[07:01] <rfxcasey> _2 how do I impliment that
[07:01] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: I've just stripped all the tags for that entire album and checked in amarok (they all say unknown), and when I import them into rhythmbox it still has info for the same 30 files.
[07:01] <macvr> hi ... anyone knows of a chat program that allows me to connect to google chat , yahoo messenger with both voice and video calls?
[07:01] <_2> rfxcasey try dropping that "without the qutation marks" into a text file, make it executable and run it.
[07:02] <Darksoul_> EvilTchnlgy_: It's not the clockspeed. This happened at 3.0Ghz as well.
[07:02] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: kk 1 sec
[07:02] <msshams> HymnToLife: thank you
[07:02] <Isendur> ﻿Having a little trouble understanding the ubuntu bible near page 192. As I understand it, I would need cp /home/isendur/Desktop/new_file.txt /home/isendur/Desktop/new_file_2.txt to copy txts?
[07:02] <EvilTchnlgy_> darksoul: o ok, how did u manage to set it back? are u getting to POST?
[07:02] <sd32> i just discovered mobalivecd ...wow thats cool
[07:02] <badserii> Hi! when will be available for update the new kernel (	2.6.27)?
[07:03] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: thanks for your help, i'm just out of ideas but it must be something wrong with rhythmbox
[07:03] <Darksoul_> EvilTchnlgy_:.. im running a livecd on the system, the only times I had issues with POST is when I tried raising the clock speed on the intergrated graphics to far.
[07:03] <badserii> I mean, for upgrade
[07:03] <_2> rfxcasey i'm not sure that this is the issue you are having. i just got here.  but that was what actionparsnips was telling you when he left.   just thought i would follow up on that.
[07:03] <Shakedown> How do I know if I have a xinerama-aware window manager?
[07:03] <slambert> ActionParsnip: going through this bug - it's a bitch
[07:03] <Stupendoussteve> Shakedown, what is your wm?
[07:04] <Shakedown> I don't know, I Just got my comp yesterday
[07:04] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: yousnaid you already tried deleting ~/.gnome2/rhythmbox/rhythmdb.xml?
[07:04] <Shakedown> GNOME?
[07:04] <Stupendoussteve> In that case, are you in gnome?
[07:04] <Stupendoussteve> Gnome is
[07:04] <EvilTchnlgy_> darksoul: did you run a smart check on your hd?
[07:04] <SexyKen> Guys - I've got an issue maybe ya'll can help with?  I've got screenlets installed, but I'm running dual monitors with separate X screens.  I want screenlets to start on the 2nd screen..but they're starting on the first screen.  So I edited the Session command that starts them to include DISPLAY=:0.1 (the 2nd screen) and it didn't show up at all....anyone have any ideas?
[07:04] <Darksoul_> EvilTchnlgy_: I believe I have smart off in BIOS, but yes I used seagate tools. Everything reported OK
[07:04] <Shakedown> So is GNOME a xinerama-aware window manager?
[07:05] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: yep
[07:05] <Isendur> ﻿Having a little trouble understanding the ubuntu bible near page 192. As I understand it, I would need cp /home/isendur/Desktop/new_file.txt /home/isendur/Desktop/new_file_2.txt to copy txts?
[07:05] <Stupendoussteve> Shakedown, most of it should be
[07:05] <EvilTchnlgy_> darksoul: so. (sorry i started reading about your issue late) yous aid you ps get loud and youg et hd errors when you try to access it?
[07:05] <Stupendoussteve> Shakedown, xinerama aware just means it doesn't open windows in the middle of two screens and stuff
[07:05] <Darksoul_> EvilTchnlgy_: No, my HDD errors after I restart.
[07:05] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: I removed all rhythmbox files in .gnome/apps and .gconf/apps and rebooted, still the same
[07:06] <Shakedown> Oh. So is xinerama a package that I need to get or is it some mode/setting that I turn on in my xorg.conf file? I'm trying to set up dual-heads by the way
[07:06] <airtonix> Isendur, yes thats the convention
[07:06] <kubuntu_> hellow, somebody knows if exist a IRC channel for kubuntu support in Spanish???????
[07:06] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: puzzling, im looking/thinking
[07:06] <Isendur> Okay when I type in the command through terminal, it tells me the file or directory doesn't exist, but I can clearly see that its there
[07:06] <airtonix> Isendur, you can also subsitute /home/isendur for ~/
[07:07] <Shakedown> kubuntu_: Start with #kubuntu perhaps? Ask there
[07:07] <rfxcasey> _2 ok I'm trying that
[07:07] <SexyKen> Anyone got any ideas?
[07:07] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: I know, it makes no sense
[07:07] <_2> Isendur pwd is not in the path on default linux systems.
[07:07] <airtonix> Isendur, try useing tab completion maybe there are some characters your not seeing properly
[07:07] <Darksoul_> Brb, going to restart and change my FSB from 217 to 214, see if that helps.
[07:07] <drowner> EvilTchnlgy_: It's gotten worse
[07:07] <kubuntu_> ok, xD, is that this program automatic puts me in this channel
[07:07] <drumstyk1> i hate to have a negative attitude but i can't seem to get any help with a static IP.  I've tried begging and offering money but with no luck.  :-(
[07:07] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: I'm guessing there is a rogue file somewhere with this info in it
[07:07] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: o i didn't think of this. do you have libary watching on in your preferences?
[07:07] <drowner> now that i can't mount it, i don't know how to change the volume details so it mounts again
[07:08] <drowner> if you know what i mean
[07:08] <Isendur> Alright gimme a sec
[07:08]  * GM-Cosmo_PW gives Isendur Dorian Grey's picture
[07:08] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: Tried on and off, it doesn't correct the names.
[07:08] <airtonix> !who
[07:08] <_2> Isendur ./ <<< $PWD   pwd is not in the path.   supply  ./'name_of.file'
[07:08] <Shakedown> kubuntu_: try /join #kubuntu
[07:08] <pantaloon> Can someone help me set my default video player to VLC instead of Totem? I changed it under System->Preferences->Preferred Applications to 'custom' and 'vlc' but it still opens up totem :(
[07:08] <rfxcasey> _2, the file I made isn't working right
[07:08] <macvr>  hi ... anyone knows of a chat program that allows me to connect to google chat , yahoo messenger with both voice and video calls?
[07:09] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: in theory, when its on, it should reread the id3s of anything with a more recent date modified....
[07:09] <_2> rfxcasey show me the content
[07:09] <EvilTchnlgy_> drowner: don't worry i haven't forgotten about you =0
[07:09] <airtonix> pantaloon, you need to right click on each video file type you have and view the properties dialouge box then goto the 'open with' tab and set it to vlc
[07:09] <drumstyk1> pantaloon: right-click on vlc and click properties and copy that command line to your pref apps command line
[07:09] <chaddy> macvr: you might get all that on trillian, certainly wikipedia has a page comparing merits of messenger apps
[07:09] <slambert> ugh, anyone have any ideas about this problem at startup?  "kinit: No resume image, doing normal reboot..."
[07:09] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: I know :(
[07:09] <msshams> have i any problem with ubuntu if i install windows 2003 server beside that?
[07:10] <Isendur> isendur@isendur-desktop:~$ cp /home/galens/Desktop/new file /home/galens/Desktop/new file 2
[07:10] <Isendur> cp: target `2' is not a directory
[07:10] <_2> msshams have to reinstall the boot loader.  shouldn't be any other trouble
[07:10] <macvr> i dont have it in the repos! so i was guessing there might be something in the repos that does that?
[07:10] <rfxcasey> _2 I think I know what I did I saved it as an Abi word doc instead of plain text....I am pretty new at all this
[07:10] <macvr> chaddy:  i dont have it in the repos! so i was guessing there might be something in the repos that does that?
[07:10] <_2> Isendur white space will have to be quoted or escaped.
[07:11] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: I'm the only user on the system, I checked /root incase there was rhythmbox info in there, nothing
[07:11] <chaddy> you're asking for a lot of features, go compare them on wikipedia, macvr
[07:11] <kervel> hello, is it possible that networkmanager in intrepid is broken since yesterday ?
[07:11] <_2> rfxcasey yes needs to be plain text.
[07:11] <_2> Isendur '/home/galens/Desktop/new file'   or  /home/galens/Desktop/new\ file
[07:11] <kervel> yesterday it worked perfectly, when i booted this morning it found no devices (but the devices are there according to ifconfig)
[07:11] <chaddy> macvr: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_instant_messaging_clients
[07:11] <Isendur> Thanks, it worked
[07:11] <Isendur> ""
[07:12] <pantaloon> drumstyk1, I tried and it still launches Totem
[07:12] <holyguyver> I have a problem with apt-get that apt-fix is not fixing.
[07:12] <rfxcasey> _2, hey one good question I am using xchat, don't know if you ever used it but I can't seem to copy words out of the chat
[07:12] <_2> !tab > Isendur
[07:12] <pantaloon> airtonix, is there a reason preferred applications doesn't work? :(
[07:12] <macvr> chaddy: i thought tht some else might be using it and could give a feedback... i was actually looking at that page before i asked :) oh.. well i better digg it out myself! :)
[07:12] <Shakedown> Where's my xorg.conf file? I can't find it under xorg directory
[07:13] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: can you do me a favor? can you try taking one of the files that havent changed and editing the id3 info in rhytmbox instead of easytag and see if that makes a difference?
[07:13] <airtonix> pantaloon, well maybe it doesnt understand how to query vlc on what filetypes vlc can use ...
[07:13] <pantaloon> preferred applications worked fine when totem wasn't installed
[07:13] <rfxcasey> _2, Oh I got it I just cntl c then cntl v
[07:13] <airtonix> pantaloon, im on hardy and totem is installed by default
[07:13] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: my guess is that the files that the files that have id3 tags 2.4 and an earlier are being edited bye asytag int he earlier id3 while rhythmbox is reading the later id3 version
[07:13] <_2> rfxcasey the Linux way would be to highlight them with the mouse  "may need to hold down the shift to do that"   then select the place you want to paste them, and  middle (or both on two button mice)
[07:13] <EvilTchnlgy_> *by easytag
[07:14] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: Yep, they just revert to their original tag when I close rhythmbox
[07:14] <pantaloon> totem is hijacking my system, but i need it for video thumbnails in nautilus
[07:14] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: no wait, rhythmbox won't let me change any tags
[07:14] <drumstyk1> pantaloon: try going into the properties of the actual video file and change it to VLC under the "open with" tab... that's the only other thing i can think of
[07:14] <airtonix> pantaloon, as far as i know totem uses gstreamer where vlc does not, so that may be why totem was able to honour the settings in preferred apps
[07:14] <rfxcasey> _2 ok cool linux can be a little frustrating at times
[07:15] <Shakedown> Where's my xorg.conf file? I can't find it under xorg directory and 'whereis xorg.conf' doesn't return anything
[07:15] <meyos> I've been having trouble all day long can someone check his error in pastebin. thank you.
[07:15] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: ahh here we are.... getting closer =)
[07:15] <DIFH-iceroot> Shakedown: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:15] <rfxcasey> _2 oh wow that is awesome
[07:15] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: as an extreme, you could use http://eyed3.nicfit.net/ (eyed3) to edit the id3 tags as it suports v 2.4
[07:15] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: yep i've tried a few, they all won't let me change
[07:15] <rfxcasey> _2 really easy
[07:15] <_2> rfxcasey i have told many.  if you are brand new to linux.  forget everything you think you know about computers.  because that assumed knowledge will only get in the way.
[07:15] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: but you would need pythonand there may be another solution
[07:16] <faileas> anyone here's used mondo before? i'm baffled to why after burning backup cd 1 its burning another cd 1
[07:16] <_2> rfxcasey welcome.
[07:16] <meyos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/56905/  this the list errors im getting, i put them in the pastebin
[07:16] <Shakedown> Thanks
[07:16] <drowner> EvilTchnlgy_: update: I used gconfeditor to remove the label I made, and am now able to mount it. Not where i want though. I don't actually know if its possible
[07:16] <Shakedown> why can't 'whereis xorg.conf' find that?
[07:16] <rfxcasey> _2,  yea I grew up with dos and windows
[07:16] <airtonix> Shakedown, try using : locate xorg.conf next time
[07:16] <rfxcasey> _2 I just need a tutor and I could be good
[07:17] <RandomIP> rdxcasey: You dont need a tutor
[07:17] <failure> does anybody want to take a look at my sudoers file? im trying to tighten the security around developers workstations so they cant change the root password, create local users and groups.
[07:17] <failure> the only other thing i can think of
[07:17] <failure> [23:14] <airtonix> pantaloon, as far as i know totem uses gstreamer where vlc does not, so that may be why totem was able to honour the settings in preferred apps
[07:17] <failure> [23:14] <rfxcasey> _2 ok cool linux can be a little frustrating at times
[07:17] <failure> [23:14] * msshams (n=shams@213.207.217.254) has left #ubuntu
[07:17] <FloodBot3> failure: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:17] <failure> [23:15] <Shakedown> Where's my xorg.conf file? I can't find it under xorg directory and 'whereis xorg.conf' doesn't return anything
[07:17] <airtonix> rfxcasey, if you knew dos then it should be too much of a stretch to go in to linux...just be glad you have that experience
[07:17] <_2> rfxcasey me too but about 9 years ago i broke free, and haven't looked back sense.    and there are about a thousand tutors on freenode  :)
[07:17] <EvilTchnlgy_> drowner: where ARE you trying yto mount it again?
[07:17] <drowner> ~/Music/linux-music
[07:17] <failure> oh jeez i am so sorry
[07:17] <drowner> which is the name of the partition in question
[07:17] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: so it seems rhythmbox has made it's own tags in these files that nothing else can read
[07:17] <Shakedown> airtonix: what's the difference between whereis and locate?
[07:18] <pantaloon> failure, actually i've got totem-xine installed
[07:18] <Shakedown> I guess that doesn't need to be directed at you airtonix
[07:18] <drowner> now, I know i can use fstab. BUt that doesn't seem right, consider it's not always connected
[07:18] <airtonix> Shakedown, not to sure to be honest...ill find out
[07:18] <goldmetal> how to connect to ftp via command line? i need to put in password too and username
[07:18] <Phantomas> Do i need to configure iptables to make vsftpd work? I have allready opened the port 21 on my router
[07:18] <drumstyk1> pantaloon: any luck?
[07:18] <DIFH-iceroot> Shakedown: locate uses a database for all the files (type "updatedb" to index the new files)
[07:18] <failure> does anybody want to take a look at my sudoers file? im trying to tighten the security around developers workstations so they cant change the root password, create local users and groups. http://pastebin.ca/1225675
[07:19] <_2> failure sure i'll give it a once over
[07:19] <EvilTchnlgy_> drowner: why not try mounting it to /media/linux-music
[07:19] <Shakedown> uses a database? Doesn't it just browse over my HDD looking for matches?
[07:19] <airtonix> Shakedown, this is a basic starting point on that topic : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FindingFiles
[07:19] <rfxcasey> _2 ok so this file I created works great, but if I want a menu item do I just create a link to the launch file? That seems kind of cluncky. And where do I keep these launch files in a special directory for the like
[07:19] <_2> rfxcasey yes
[07:19] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: wel it jsut supports a newer tag version than most program can read
[07:19] <DIFH-iceroot> goldmetal: type ftp, then open, then ftp://user:password@host
[07:19] <drowner> EvilTchnlgy_: I could do that!
[07:19] <Rando_> My firefox froze on me and it won't relaunch as there is a firefox process running. I've tried to "kill" and "kill -9" the pid, but neither seems to wanna knock it out. Is there anything else I can try aside from a reboot?
[07:19] <drowner> in fact, that's where it is mounted right now ;)
[07:19] <DIFH-iceroot> goldmetal: or use ncftp, its a nice command-line client
[07:20] <drowner> I was just wondering if it COULD be mounted somewhere else
[07:20] <DIFH-iceroot> goldmetal: ncftp ftp://user:password@host
[07:20] <chaddy> docal: killall or pkill
[07:20] <drowner> if it can't, that's cool ;)
[07:20] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: but why won't it modify it's own tags?
[07:20] <_2> rfxcasey you can use /usr/local/bin   if you want all acounts to access them  if you want to keep them private you can use ~/bin
[07:20] <docal> chaddy: Neither of those did the job =(
[07:21] <rfxcasey> _2,  well what is the standard practice for this type of thing? Meaning what is this type of file called normally
[07:21] <chaddy> docal: prepend sudo
[07:21] <EvilTchnlgy_> back, sorry, phone rang (kinda weird at 2:30 i  know haha)
[07:21] <Shakedown> Hm, so it looks like 'locate' should be the first choice
[07:21] <Shakedown> Thanks airtonix
[07:21] <DIFH-iceroot> Shakedown: yes
[07:21] <_2> rfxcasey /usr/local/bin is in the default path  and on some distros they put a default addition to the path if it detects ~/bin   so you can use the name without full path.    and standard is   what ever suits you.
[07:21] <docal> chaddy, still no go =(
[07:22] <yamamoto> hello all
[07:22] <failure> _2 comments?
[07:22] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: you know what is weird, Nautillus reports the old id3 info also
[07:22] <_2> failure i must have missed the url  ?
[07:22] <Shakedown> (Rhetorical) Why is Amarok so cool?
[07:22] <EvilTchnlgy_> drowner: what is the error you try to get when you mount?
[07:22] <chaddy> docal: you could try from top, think that just sends kill -9, though
[07:22] <rfxcasey> _2 I am just asking is this file called a link, launcher, bin, kickstart?
[07:22] <yamamoto> does somebody know how to configure Nginx for static files serving?
[07:22] <failure> http://pastebin.ca/1225675
[07:22] <pantaloon> drumstyk1, that did it. PITA though, because I'll have to do that for every video filetype.
[07:22] <rfxcasey> _2 script?
[07:22] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: yea, different id3 versions coexist
[07:23] <chaddy> docal: you could just log out and back in again
[07:23] <_2> rfxcasey called an executable, scrupt, wraper   depending on who is calling it  "_
[07:23] <docal> I suppose so
[07:23] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: I just stripped all the tags though, using easytag and also id3-tag-it
[07:23] <docal> i'll just do that
[07:23] <docal> thanks
[07:23] <Phantomas> Do i need to configure iptables to make vsftpd work? I have allready opened the port 21 on my router
[07:23] <chaddy> no worries
[07:23] <rfxcasey> _2 ok wrapper sounds good I will stick with that
[07:23] <drowner> EvilTchnlgy_: I've got it to mount now. It's a known 'bug' - if you put a / in the mountpoint, it can't mount. You can only specify a mountpoint like 'chicken', in which case it will mount to /media/chicken
[07:23] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: well tats the thing, easytag cant strip id3 v2.4 tags..
[07:23] <_2> failure i got it that time.   looking.
[07:23] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: so it will strip all the other tags, see?
[07:23] <drowner> you need to use gconfeditor to remove the incorrect entry.
[07:23] <RandomIP> Phantoms if you dont have port 20 open it wont work i belive
[07:24] <macvr> docal: checked system monitor?
[07:24] <goldmetal> DIFH-iceroot, ok i am trying. thx
[07:24] <EvilTchnlgy_> drowner: ahh thank you. learned something new =)
[07:24] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: yeah, but I still have a few files with these new tags, that nothing can read
[07:24] <rfxcasey> _2, hey can you hang for a second, while I got your attention I would like to ask you a couple of questions that have been nagging me.
[07:24] <EvilTchnlgy_> I would install the link i poster earlier, or finda nother program that can edit id3 v2.4
[07:25] <EvilTchnlgy_> illt ake a look to se if I can fine one
[07:25] <jim_p> does linux support crossfire or sli?
[07:25] <failure> jim_p hell. yes..
[07:25] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: even winamp
[07:25] <jim_p> good
[07:26] <RandomIP> jim_p: Only if you remove your CMOS battery before every boot.
[07:26] <jim_p> failure: because some guy told me that crossfire works only on vista! and sli also works in xp!
[07:26] <goldmetal> DIFH-iceroot, is there ls command? i am using ncftp
[07:26] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: I'll see what itunes says
[07:26] <jim_p> RandomIP: why remove the battery?
[07:26] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: well im not sure what versions winamp supports. but its winamp. you would need yto either run windows in xen or a serperate box..
[07:27] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: or use wine, not sure of its level of support there
[07:27] <rfxcasey> _2 is there any easy way to graphically cut and paste as root without actually switching users
[07:27] <kernando> how can i get a flashplayer to work in opera?
[07:27] <jim_p> rfxcasey: gksudo nautilus --desktop
[07:27] <jim_p> ooooops
[07:27] <EvilTchnlgy_> !flash | kernando
[07:27] <jim_p> rfxcasey: gksudo nautilus --browser
[07:28] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: I have rdp running with a shared folder
[07:28] <_2> rfxcasey don't cut/paste as root.    cut paste as user and edit as root if you must.    fastest way to make an oops is using too much root.
[07:28] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: ooo. well taht would work in theory if winamp supports id3 v2.4
[07:28] <mydrmeix> how can I enable the candy bar for clearlooks?
[07:28] <rfxcasey> _2 it don't give the option to paste as user
[07:28] <failure> _2 any ideas?
[07:28] <jim_p> kernando: the latest stable flash usually works on the latest stabe opera. if one of the 2 moves one version next, things bocome pear shaped
[07:28] <_2> failure sudo su is redundant   if they can sudo they can probably sudo -i   you might want to check that.
[07:29] <_2> failure i'm still looking.
[07:29] <meyos> can i fix cerain problems using the ubuntu cd?
[07:29] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: Ok, so both winamp and itunes both know there are no tags for those problem files
[07:29] <_2> rfxcasey what are you trying to paste into ?
[07:29] <kernando> hmm okk then
[07:29] <RandomIP> Meyos: You can fix all problems with the ubuntu CD
[07:29] <jim_p> meyos: depends on what you mean as "certain"
[07:29] <RandomIP> Reinstall
[07:29] <rfxcasey> /usr/local/bin
[07:29] <rfxcasey> _2, usr/local/bin
[07:29] <drowner> EvilTchnlgy_: Thx for your help. I don't actually know if this is possible, but i'll keep working at it.
[07:29] <_2> rfxcasey no.   just   sudo cp filename.sh  /usr/local/bin
[07:30] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: really they showed no tags at all?
[07:30] <meyos> i cant update anything
[07:30] <RandomIP> Meyos: What do you want to update?
[07:30] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: also mpg123, mplayer, amarok all say no tags
[07:30] <rfxcasey> _2 urgh soo much typing
[07:30] <jim_p> meyos: in the normal ubuntu installation?
[07:30] <goldmetal> DIFH-iceroot, thx, it's working
[07:30] <_2> rfxcasey only on admin stuff.
[07:30] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: something isn't rightthen. that wouldn't make sense assuming our earlier conclusion is true
[07:31] <_2> rfxcasey and we (the linux world) tend to like it that way.
[07:31] <amazingjxq> Someone know how to install xp? I used my entire hard disk to install ubuntu,now i want to make a dual boot system. but i can't install xp. Maybe something is wrong with mbr. How to fix this?
[07:31] <meyos> i cant update the system or install anything on it.
[07:31] <moidekar> amazingjxq, use VirtualBox to create a VM for Windows
[07:31] <meyos> i get an error, in the normal ubuntu
[07:31] <jim_p> meyos: are your repos configured properly? do you have an internet connection?
[07:31] <amazingjxq> I need real windows for some reason.
[07:32] <kernando> jim_p so you wouldnt recommend using opera??
[07:32] <EvilTchnlgy_> meyos: what error?
[07:32] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: I'm almost 100% sure its some corrupted tag rhythmbox has made
[07:32] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: it has to be.. or somethinga tleast similar in nture to that
[07:32] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: but so far, only nautillus and rhythmbox can see the tags, but not modify them
[07:32] <_2> failure that's about all that jumps out at me.   just check on sudoers being able to sudo -i   and the rest looks pretty good.
[07:33] <jim_p> kernando: the problem is flash, not opera! opera guys do their best, flash !@#$^ things up
[07:33] <rfxcasey> _2, do you know where the icon are kept
[07:33] <failure> i dont want people doing sudo -i
[07:33] <ryth> how's everyone doing tonight?
[07:33] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: i know for a fact that itunes supports v2.4 so i dont know if that negates my earlier theory
[07:33] <moidekar> amazingjxq, parted may be able to resize your Ubuntu partition.
[07:33] <jim_p> failure: lock sudo!
[07:33] <_2> failure yes i know.  that's why i mentioned it.
[07:33] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: it does, if there are tags in those files, they aren't standard
[07:33] <faileas> moidekar: XP will wipe out grub. so.. it might end up being quite troublesome
[07:34] <kernando> jim_p i like opera better than firefox but i like to watch flash videos.. is there an alternate flash program i can install?
[07:34] <faileas> but reparitition, XP then fix grub has worked for me
[07:34] <jim_p> ryth: i am mad today. my little nephew draw a line with a pen on my precious eizo monitor
[07:34] <goldmetal> DIFH-iceroot, i am also trying ftp. it is ftp<enter>, open<enter> then ftp://user:password@host<enter>?
[07:34] <_2> faileas reinstalling grub is no problem
[07:34] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: OMG, I don't want to speak too soon, but I think I fixed it
[07:34] <moidekar> faileas, true, but then installing a dumb OS after a smart one is usually troublesome :-)
[07:34] <jim_p> kernando: gnash but it is like ancient and sites like youtube dont see you have flash and prompt you to reinstall
[07:35] <kernando> jim_p ii just installed flash according to that website but yeah like u said it just wont load videos at all
[07:35] <backslash7> Hi there
[07:35] <meyos> here is my error, i put it in pastebin, http://paste.ubuntu.com/56913/
[07:35] <faileas> _2: well its so much easier to plan ahead. partition then install *buntu over XP
[07:35] <rfxcasey> _2,  Ok so my I can't turn off my mic playback no matter what I do any idea what is up with that
[07:35] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: what do you think it was?
[07:35] <backslash7> I've got a really annoying prolem
[07:35] <_2> moidekar indeed installing a dumb os is troublesum ;/
[07:35] <jim_p> kernando: version of flash? opera version?
[07:35] <moidekar> faileas, probably after resizing and installing XP, OP should then boot Ubuntu DVD/CD, chroot to installed copy, and re-install GRUB - though that prob won't detect XP, will have to add manual option
[07:35] <legend2440> !hostname | meyos
[07:35] <moidekar> _2, :-)
[07:35] <kernando> jim_p i am not sure i installed them through the synaptic package manager
[07:36] <_2> rfxcasey terminal command    sudo alsamixer    hit the tab key and mute it.
[07:36] <jim_p> kernando: do you have firefox there?
[07:36] <legend2440> meyos: can you pastebin your /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname files?
[07:36] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: ok so I set my music directory to the album itself and checked "watch files". Now rhythmbox lets me modify the tags but when I press close it renames back
[07:36] <backslash7> I installed gtklib to develop C using GTK. I don't know if that's the reason for my problem, but since around then, my themes look really crappy, more specific my buttons are grey and not round anymore so I think it could be because of GTK.
[07:36] <_2> rfxcasey terminal command    sudo alsamixer    hit the tab key, select the mic and mute it.
[07:36] <kernando> jim_p flash is 9.0.124
[07:36] <backslash7> How do I reinstall Gnome completely?
[07:36] <kernando> jim_p i removed it
[07:36] <backslash7> All graphic stuff
[07:36] <kernando> a while ago
[07:36] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: so no its not fixed
[07:36] <jim_p> meyos: what is that "edgar" thing there? it seems you have a proxy problem
[07:37] <soreau> SexyKen: What card is listed in the output of 'lspci'?
[07:37] <kernando> jim_p flash is 9.0.124 and opera is 9.27
[07:37] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: dang.
[07:37] <jim_p> kernando: opera? only opera 9.60 is said to have corrected the problems that it had with flash 9.0.124
[07:38] <rfxcasey> _2 by mute do you mean make it 0
[07:38] <jim_p> kernando: use opera 9.60 and use a repo
[07:38] <_2> rfxcasey i mean hit the "M" button
[07:38] <meyos> i dont see the host files in etc?
[07:38] <kernando> jim_p alright ill try that out
[07:38] <jim_p> ok
[07:38] <meyos> jim_p: yeah, that edgar thing gots me too
[07:38] <rfxcasey> _2 isn't that muting the capture
[07:38] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: i would try to emulatethe issue but I'm on my windows box...
[07:39] <macvr> chaddy: trillian doesnt work with linux! but the alpha testin of trillian astra for linux seems to be an invite only !
[07:39] <jim_p> meyos: cat /etc/hosts
[07:39] <rfxcasey> _2 I just wanna mute the playback of the mic
[07:39] <_2> rfxcasey should only mute the column you have selected.
[07:39] <neeto> One of my SATA harddrives is malfunctioning. Is there a way to restart the SATA module (ahci.ko in this case) to try and jump-start the malfunctioning drive, without interfering with my well behaved SATA drives, also using ahci.ko?
[07:39] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: I don't think you can, because I have no idea how it happened
[07:39] <scuser> hi all, what do I have to install to support the mount option sec=plain or sec=krb5i ?
[07:40] <rfxcasey> _2 under playback I only have master
[07:40] <_2> rfxcasey oh i see what you are saying.      "duh!"    </seniour moment>
[07:40] <EvilTchnlgy_> well i assume its either a bug in your version of easytag or rhythmbox
[07:40] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: maybe i'll delete the files and copy new ones in their places
[07:40] <jim_p> scuser: selinux
[07:40] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: that should bea blt to telll you some of the nature of the issue if it persists
[07:40] <meyos> here is the hosts ---http://paste.ubuntu.com/56914/
[07:40] <jim_p> scuser: its not a distro :P
[07:40] <_2> rfxcasey you'll have to select the playback device/s in the sound server  or the app you are using.
[07:40] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: good point, i'll try it
[07:41] <rfxcasey> _2,  when I got to my mixer and try to mute the playback it doesn't stop it
[07:41] <l3d> ok I use my sound recorder to make a ogg of a music video hehe beats torrent but I was wondering why the movie player plays it fine and loud like it was when i was recording it but listen music player plays it really low where you cant hear it. Is this  due to the fact the ogg codec for listen is not installed right or something any ideas?
[07:41] <legend2440> meyos: now   cat /etc/hostname
[07:41] <jim_p> meyos: no edgar in there!
[07:41] <EvilTchnlgy_> i JUST uninstalled hyper-v last reboot or else id open up an ubuntu virtual machine
[07:41] <smm289> about how long should it take to make a ~80GB .tar.bz2 archive
[07:41] <_2> rfxcasey it's in the sustem settings menu thingy.    i'm not sure on the details to that.   i don't like gnome.
[07:42] <meyos> meyos-laptop
[07:42] <smm289> using an XPS1330
[07:42] <jim_p> smm289: with no compression?
[07:42] <meyos> no edgar in there!
[07:42] <_2> rfxcasey you should ask the channel rather than dirrecting to me on that one.   ;/
[07:42] <smm289> i have no idea, I just told the archiver to make a .tar.bz2 of my home folder
[07:42] <moidekar> meyos, how about /etc/resolv.conf - what;s in there?
[07:42] <smm289> gonna push it onto the network when its finished for same keeping
[07:43] <rfxcasey> _2 I will do a search for it in google
[07:43] <legend2440> meyos: ok if /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match then that is not the problem. iwonder where its getting edgar from
[07:43] <jim_p> smm289: some hours i guess, even without compression. you may run out of space in the meantime
[07:43] <_2> rfxcasey someone in here can probably tell you
[07:43] <_2> sound control help for rfxcasey,   anyone !
[07:43] <jim_p> legend2440: some thing in network-manager?
[07:43] <smm289> I should have enough space to store the archive
[07:43] <rfxcasey> Does anyone know how to mute this mic playback when it doesn't work in the mixer
[07:43] <smm289> its been working for a couple hours
[07:43] <kernando> jim_p thanks a lot that worked great! :)
[07:44] <meyos> damn that edgar!
[07:44] <moidekar> smm289, 80 GIGs in your home folder? How about you exclude music etc, if that's what's taking up all the space?
[07:44] <jim_p> meyos: did you name ANYTHING "edgar"? a profile, a file?
[07:44] <jim_p> kernando: you are welcome. use a repo now
[07:44] <moidekar> meyos, could you pastebin contents of /etc/resolv.conf ? And don't damn me, please...
[07:44] <smm289> ya the music and pictures it whats maken it so huge, figure I would just include it all, I dont mind waiting just wondering what the normal time should be
[07:44] <airtonix> rfxcasey, check which device the volume controller is set to. maybe its not on the right one
[07:44] <alanbshepard77> can the caps of a compiz cube desktop be made into real desktops and not just a picture?
[07:45] <airtonix> alanbshepard77, not at this point
[07:45] <rfxcasey> airtonix, not sure I catch your drift
[07:45] <goldmetal> DIFH-iceroot, why the thing hangs?
[07:45] <goldmetal> 227 Entering Passive Mode (203,86,214,2,12,44)
[07:45] <jim_p> smm289: i compress a 4+GB iso to a 4- GB 7z file to ~30-40 minutes
[07:45] <goldmetal> DIFH-iceroot, i am trying to 'ls' list files
[07:45] <airtonix> alanbshepard77, i have a secret hope that bumptop wil become usable in linux...
[07:45] <meyos> moidekar: here it is, im not damn'en you, lol http://paste.ubuntu.com/56916/
[07:45] <alanbshepard77> airtonix: ok thanks. That's what i figured. I'd probably never use them anyway I just wondered for completness.
[07:45] <jim_p> airtonix: what is bumptop?
[07:46] <Appi> help me in installing mysql in ubuntu
[07:46] <smm289> lol  it will probably be doing it in the morning still
[07:46] <airtonix> rfxcasey, the volume controller applet in the gnome panel, right click it
[07:46] <EvilTchnlgy_> appi: what do you need help with?
[07:46] <kernando> jim_p i didnt use a repo (im not sure how) i just went to the opera website and got the 9.60 deb file
[07:46] <jim_p> meyos: what is this ? search gateway.2wire.net
[07:46] <airtonix> jim_p, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ODskdEPnQ
[07:46] <rfxcasey> airtonix, I have been over that it doesn't work
[07:46] <Flannel> Appi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#After%20installing%20MySQL
[07:46] <airtonix> rfxcasey, okies apologies
[07:47] <Appi> I am new to ubuntu and I dont know how to use its terminal.
[07:47] <Flannel> !cli | Appi
[07:47] <drumstyk1> is there a keyboard shortcut to send a maximized window to a second monitor?
[07:47] <meyos> jim_p: not sure
[07:47] <EvilTchnlgy_> appi: follow this guide http://www.debianadmin.com/mysql-database-server-installation-and-configuration-in-ubuntu.html
[07:47] <jim_p> airtonix: oh yes, i have seen it before. i like compiz better
[07:47] <Flannel> drumstyk1: ctrl-shift-left? or is it alt?
[07:47] <tsukasa1105> question, where is the crontab log
[07:47] <airtonix> Appi, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:47] <tsukasa1105> im trying to debug why my cron isnt working
[07:47] <EvilTchnlgy_> Or you can use airtronix's official link ;)
[07:47] <tsukasa1105> well, the cron works, my command in it doesnt
[07:48] <jim_p> meyos: comment out that line then, restart network and try to update
[07:48] <airtonix> Appi, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[07:48] <Appi> thanks a lot
[07:48] <moidekar> meyos, what happens if you run    host  archive.canonical.com ?
[07:48] <drumstyk1> Flannel: thanks, but it's not workin for me
[07:48] <rfxcasey> airtonix, I muted AC97 and it stopped it but is that going to stop other playback too
[07:49] <rfxcasey> airtonix, my system sounds still work with it muted
[07:49] <Flannel> drumstyk1: That could be the wrong key combination.  I haven't used a GUI in a while.  Right click the app on the bottom panel, there should be a shortcut key next to the menu item
[07:49] <jim_p> meyos: can you ping ips to the outside world
[07:49] <jim_p> ?
[07:49] <airtonix> rfxcasey, i cant say for sure really.
[07:50] <rfxcasey> airtonix, do you know what the LFE means
[07:50] <meyos> sorry i dont know comment out
[07:50] <meyos> moidekar: whats the command to run that?
[07:51] <ubuntu_todd> what's the mean by LAMP?
[07:51] <airtonix> rfxcasey, something like : low frequency ....
[07:51] <moidekar> meyos, in your terminal run the command:     host archive.canonical.com
[07:52] <G0SUB> ubuntu_todd: Linux Apache MySQL PHP
[07:52] <airtonix> rfxcasey, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-frequency_effect
[07:52] <jim_p> meyos: ping 195.170.0.1
[07:52] <rfxcasey> airtonix, ok thanks
[07:52] <airtonix> rfxcasey, just out of interest what card do you have?
[07:52] <meyos> archive.canonical.com has address 91.189.90.142
[07:52] <kebomix> hello
[07:53] <kebomix> how to delete adhoc networks that i made ?
[07:53] <moidekar> meyos: that's weird - DNS works fine for you, then.
[07:53] <_2> jim_p who in greese are we pinging ?
[07:53] <fernado> hola
[07:53] <Appi> what is the size of mysql database
[07:53] <jim_p> _2 my isp
[07:53] <meyos> 64 bytes from 195.170.0.1: icmp_seq=8 ttl=118 time=205 ms
[07:53] <jim_p> _2 my isps dns server
[07:54] <airtonix> rfxcasey,  lspci | grep Audio
[07:54] <moidekar> meyos, how about you run : cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:54] <_2> ah   ok
[07:54] <kebomix> fernado: how to delete wireless networks that i made ?
[07:54] <moidekar> meyos, and then pastebin that result?
[07:54] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: I've removed the problem files, and everything else is tagged correctly and working good. I'll just try new copies of the problem files one at a time and see if it fixes the problem
[07:54] <drumstyk1> Flannel: that is very useful info that i had never noticed before, however, my particular need right now is moving a window to my second monitor in twin view rather than the second desktop or "workspace"
[07:54] <Slow__> Hi. I'm new here so please be kind
[07:54] <airtonix> rfxcasey, or just lspci and look for what might look like an audio device
[07:55] <airtonix> rfxcasey, again im just curious
[07:55] <drumstyk1> i also meant to say thank you in that :)
[07:55] <fernado> no se hablar engles
[07:55] <Slow__> I'm creating a table in open office and I want to the text to wrap around the table
[07:55] <meyos> moidekar: http://paste.ubuntu.com/56921/
[07:55] <Slow__> how do I do that?
[07:55] <rfxcasey> rfxcasey@rfxcasey-main:~$ lspci
[07:55] <rfxcasey> 00:00.0 Host bridge: ALi Corporation M1695 K8 Northbridge [PCI Express and HyperTransport]
[07:55] <rfxcasey> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: ALi Corporation PCI Express Root Port
[07:55] <rfxcasey> 00:02.0 PCI bridge: ALi Corporation PCI Express Root Port
[07:55] <rfxcasey> 00:03.0 PCI bridge: ALi Corporation PCI Express Root Port
[07:55] <FloodBot3> rfxcasey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:55] <rfxcasey> 00:04.0 Host bridge: ALi Corporation M1689 K8 Northbridge [Super K8 Single Chip]
[07:55] <Flannel> drumstyk1: Oh, second monitor.  Sorry.  Not too sure.  I know you can make it start in another monitor with devilspie
[07:56] <airtonix> rfxcasey, yeah woops...thats a bobo...
[07:56] <Flannel> Appi: that depends on how much data you have in it
[07:56] <Appi> thanks a lot
[07:56] <legend2440> meyos: did update ever work?
[07:57] <rfxcasey> airtonix, oh sorry I am all over the place tonight
[07:57] <meyos> legend: no, i get the long error when i try update
[07:57] <ubuntoRoxx> hello. What scriptinglanguage is used to script linux?
[07:57] <jim_p> !opera
[07:57] <Slow__> can someone answer me or tell me where I can find more information? ... I'm creating a table in open office and I want to the text to wrap around the table
[07:57] <moidekar> meyos, trying to get at the pastebin... suddenly Firefox has slowed down on it (??)
[07:57] <airtonix> !paste | rfxcasey
[07:57] <airtonix> rfxcasey, :)
[07:58] <_2> ah so opera is not free...    is firefox ?
[07:58] <ubuntoRoxx> ????
[07:58] <meyos> moidekar: http://paste.ubuntu.com/56921/
[07:58] <spartan> _2 yes
[07:59] <rfxcasey> man staying orginized in linux is a real challenge for me
[07:59] <EvilTchnlgy_> opera is free, firefox is free and open source
[07:59] <kebomix> any one can help , it give me this error while update ,libawn0-bzr
[07:59] <kebomix> python-awn-bzr ?
[07:59] <EvilTchnlgy_> opera is just closed source
[07:59] <kebomix> Error authenticating some packages
[07:59] <_2> EvilTchnlgy_ heh symantics
[07:59] <meyos> 2wire.net gots me confused also legend
[07:59] <EvilTchnlgy_> hehe =)
[07:59] <drumstyk1> Flannel: you are officially my favorite... devilspie looks amazing, thanks
[08:00] <rfxcasey> airtonix, man staying organized in Linux is a real challenge for me
[08:00] <kebomix> any one here have experience with wireless networks ?
[08:00] <cakey> rver irc.rizon.net
[08:00] <EvilTchnlgy_> some. whats your problem?
[08:00] <_2> !FOSS
[08:00] <airtonix> rfxcasey, once you get a grip on it though... your a formidable force to be dealt with
[08:00] <kebomix> i want to delete adhoc networks that i made
[08:00] <moidekar> meyos, OK, got at the pastebin now. I notice that the paste ends with a single quote and a period. Did you put that there or is that actually in the file?
[08:01] <jim_p> kebomix: how did you make them? in network-manager
[08:01] <jim_p> ?
[08:01] <rfxcasey> airtonix,  I hear yea it's just there is soooo much info and customization
[08:01] <moidekar> meyos, I mean, did you put it there while pasting to pastebin ?
[08:01] <alanbshepard77> ﻿airtonix: I just watched bumptop in action. NICE!!!! I hope it's out for Linux ASAP!
[08:01] <meyos> it was there, i didnt type it
[08:02] <kebomix> jim_p: i click on network icon on top toolbar  then create new wireless network
[08:02] <airtonix> alanbshepard77, i wouldnt hold your breath...its only in alpha for windows...and only for that coffe table multitouch thing they got on the boards
[08:02] <jim_p> kebomix: cant you remove them the same way?
[08:02] <kebomix> no
[08:02] <kebomix> how ?1
[08:02] <rfxcasey> airtonix, http://paste.ubuntu.com/56923/
[08:03] <alanbshepard77> ﻿airtonix: ::::::::exhales::::::::  awww crud. Back to compiz I go.
[08:03] <kebomix> i clicked create wireless network
[08:03] <rfxcasey> airtonix, does that work
[08:03] <theCarpenter> does anyone know why the latest eclipse version in the repos is 3.2?
[08:03] <airtonix> rfxcasey, im looking now.
[08:04] <airtonix> rfxcasey, ah right you have a Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07)
[08:04] <moidekar> meyos, I notice that the pasted text ends with a single quote and a period. Is that actually in the file?
[08:04] <airtonix> rfxcasey, i would use that when searching on google along with the word ubuntu
[08:04] <_2> theCarpenter because that was the current stable version when the release was compiled ?
[08:04] <Flannel> theCarpenter: That's what was current when Hardy went into freeze, like _2 said
[08:05] <rfxcasey> airtonix, yea I always have the wrong hardware
[08:05] <meyos> yes hardy main'.
[08:05] <Appi> why do i get black color screen after i leave xchat
[08:05] <rfxcasey> airtonix,  I think I got it figured out just don't know if there will be any side effects
[08:05] <theCarpenter> is there any way to force updates?
[08:05] <rfxcasey> airtonix, time will tell
[08:05] <macvr>  chaddy: trillian doesnt work with linux! but the alpha testin of trillian astra for linux seems to be an invite only !
[08:06] <orospakr> What font is getting used here in the titlebar? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/DustTheme?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=dust-0917-firefox.jpg
[08:06] <EvilTchnlgy_> macvr pm me
[08:06] <rfxcasey> airtonix, now if I could just figure out all this compiling busness
[08:06] <pxc> hey I have a quick question about dist-upgrade stuff: how do I make Ubuntu 6.06 aware that 8.04 is available for upgrade?
[08:06] <Flannel> theCarpenter: Your best way to get it updated for future versions of Ubuntu is to file a bug report about it.
[08:06] <pxc> atm it is only offering to let me update to 7.10
[08:06] <Flannel> pxc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes#From%207.10%20or%206.06%20LTS%20to%208.04%20LTS
[08:06] <Rask> is there any way to restart alsa?
[08:06] <Xcerca> if i get all new hardware but keep the hard drive that i have ubuntu on will i have problems booting into it...  i will still have and amd64 and nvidia graphic card ?
[08:06] <Flannel> pxc: Do you have 7.04 or 6.06?
[08:06] <_2> theCarpenter are you sure that you "need" a newer version before the next release ?   8.10
[08:07] <Flannel> _2: actually, Intrepid has 3.2.X as well
[08:07] <_2> oh.
[08:07] <airtonix> rfxcasey, usually you need to install build-essentails before most compiling works properly.
[08:07] <rfxcasey> airtonix, one question when you said to type ;vegastrike in that wrapper what was the ; for
[08:07] <airtonix> !info build-essentials
[08:07] <ubuntoRoxx> I have a text document lying on the remote server. i have logged in using SSH, and now I want to edit the document. How do I do that?
[08:07] <moidekar> meyos, did you edit the file by hand?
[08:07]  * _2 hides and lets Flannel do the one thang.
[08:07] <pxc> flannel: I am in this channel because that upgrade procedure does not work. it still only offers to let me upgrade to 7.10
[08:07] <Flannel> ubuntoRoxx: nano, vim, etc.
[08:08] <airtonix> rfxcasey, :) i didnt say that...must of been someone else
[08:08] <Appi>  why do i get black color screen after i leave xchat
[08:08] <meyos> moidekar: no i didnt
[08:08] <airtonix> !info build-essentails
[08:08] <airtonix> !info build-essentail
[08:08] <airtonix> ...
[08:08] <rfxcasey> airtonix, build essentials I think I installed that the other day trying to get doomsday to work
[08:08] <moidekar> meyos, that's weird. AFAIK, entries in that file should NOT end with '.
[08:08] <Xcerca> is 8.10 already out ?
[08:08] <ubuntoRoxx> Flannel: But when i write nedit myfile.txt & then I get the message Can't open display
[08:08] <Flannel> pxc: what does `lsb_release -r` give you?
[08:08] <Flannel> ubuntoRoxx: nano, not nedit.  nedit is a GUI
[08:08] <moidekar> Could you do : sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:09] <ljsoftnet> Xcera, it still has 18-20 days left
[08:09] <_2> pxc upgrade from 7.4 only supports to 7.10   not to 8.*
[08:09] <Flannel> !info build-essential | airtonix
[08:09] <moidekar> meyos, and then delete the ending '.
[08:09] <ljsoftnet> Xcerra, it still has 18-20 days left
[08:09] <ubuntoRoxx> Flannel: Aha, so I needs to be textbased?
[08:09] <ljsoftnet> Xcerca, it still has 18-20 days left
[08:09] <airtonix> rfxcasey, yeah thats pretty much the first thing you need kernel something or other is the other thing...but it all depends on the stuff your compiling
[08:09] <Flannel> ubuntoRoxx: Correct, or you need to do X forwarding
[08:09] <meyos> should i edit the file and remove the ('.)
[08:09] <moidekar> meyos, then save the file and try your update again and see?
[08:09] <_2> pxc thus it's assumed you will two step it. or fresh install
[08:09] <rfxcasey> airtonix, ok well to fill you in the _2 I think it was told me to make a wrapper containing cd /home/rfxcasey/Games/vegastrike/bin/ ;./vegastrike-64
[08:10] <ubuntoRoxx> Flannel: Hmm now i tried nano myFile.txt & but nothing happend
[08:10] <Flannel> ubuntoRoxx: Why did you put the & at the end?
[08:10] <_2> pxc if you want to live wild and dngerously.   you can manually single step to 8.*
[08:10] <moidekar> meyos, yes, try that, save the file, and re-try your update?
[08:10] <rfxcasey> airtonix, just wondering what the ;./vegastrike-64 part means
[08:10] <Flannel> pxc: You shouldn't do that.
[08:10] <ubuntoRoxx> Flannel: So i can used the terminal
[08:10] <airtonix> rfxcasey, ah that coulg be because its expecting to find files it needs in the place your running the game from
[08:10] <frybye> who is running openoffice 3 final ...?
[08:11] <Xcerca> is there a list of supported hardware for ubntu somewhere ?
[08:11] <Flannel> ubuntoRoxx: What the & does is means it gets sent to the background.  Whcih means it wont come up so you can see it.  It's running currently (type "jobs") but you may want to look into using screen to give you multiple terminals in one session
[08:11] <airtonix> rfxcasey, its not ;. its : cd /some/place/obscure/; ./vegastrike-64
[08:11] <Rask> I occasionally loose sound after running wine apps with sound or snesx emulator for extended periods, any idea why this is happening?
[08:11] <Flannel> ubuntoRoxx: when you type "jobs" you'll see the stuff running in the background with a number next to it, type %# where # is the number, to bring that to the foreground
[08:11] <_2> Flannel "shouldn't" ?   or "it's not supported"  ?       btw i wasn't suggesting it.
[08:11] <ubuntoRoxx> ahh yes
[08:11] <airtonix> rfxcasey, the semicolon means that what follows after is a new command seperate from the previous statement
[08:11] <rfxcasey> airtonix, ok so what does the . signify
[08:12] <ubuntoRoxx> arrrg i try to open using vim
[08:12] <pxc> flannel: okay, i'll do 7.10 first then, ty
[08:12] <Appi>  why do i get black color screen after i leave xchat
[08:12] <legend2440> !hardware | Xcerca
[08:12] <ubuntoRoxx> when i press bacspace i writes ^Z
[08:12] <Flannel> ubuntoRoxx: use nano, not vim
[08:12] <airtonix> rfxcasey, ok you remember in dos how there is always two folders called .. & . ?
[08:12] <ubuntoRoxx> Flannel: Why is Nano better?
[08:12] <Flannel> _2: both.
[08:12] <meyos> moidekar: thats weird, i went to edit the file and it has an extra line that doesnt end in ('.)
[08:12] <rfxcasey> airtonix, yea
[08:13] <meyos> moidekar: take a look http://paste.ubuntu.com/56926/
[08:13] <rfxcasey> airtonix,  for go up one and down one
[08:13] <Flannel> ubuntoRoxx: nano is more similar to a 'regular' text editor.
[08:13] <airtonix> rfxcasey, and if you changed to .. with : cd .. you would go back one directory
[08:13] <_2> ubuntoRoxx in vim  you might try putting the editor in "insert mode"  :)
[08:13] <ubuntoRoxx> Flannel: vim is VI right?
[08:13] <rfxcasey> airtonix, um hum
[08:13] <airtonix> rfxcasey, well not exactly... the single period is a representation of the current directory
[08:13] <Flannel> ubuntoRoxx: vim is related to vi, yes.
[08:13] <rfxcasey> airtonix, ah ok
[08:13] <_2> ubuntoRoxx vim is vi emproved
[08:13] <ubuntoRoxx> Flannel: What is the difference then?
[08:13] <Flannel> ubuntoRoxx: Difference between what?
[08:14] <paul68> what is the correct syntax to check with nmap if my network is safe should this be nmap -PO -O or do I need another option
[08:14] <ubuntoRoxx> Flannel: vim and vi
[08:14] <rfxcasey> airtonix, still don't know why we need it?
[08:14] <airtonix> rfxcasey, so imagine you have two copies of the same program installed but you just want to run one ... by prefixing it with ./command you are telling ti to run the one right here infront of you.
[08:14] <scuser> dear all, I'm trying to kerberize lustre using the command "sudo mount -t lustre -o sec=krb5i /dev/sda8 /mnt/data/mdt/" but I got error saying that sec is an invalid option I don't know why please help
[08:15] <Docal> I'm having compiz segfault on me and i'm not sure what part of the segfault log entry in /var/log/messages I should be plugging into google to try and diggup some answers for myself - in short, I don't know how to read a segfault log. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[08:15] <frybye> legend2440: problem with that hardware compatability list in the wiki is that nearly all the listings relate to legacy versions of ubuntu - there is hardly a mention of hardy - let alone intrepid??
[08:15] <rfxcasey> airtonix,  why is that is the directory for vegastrike in the path
[08:15] <Flannel> ubuntoRoxx: uh, vim is "vi improved", its got more features, and... specifics are outside the scope of this channel.
[08:15] <moidekar> meyos, I don't think the blank line is a problem, but the ('.) is almost certainly a problem. Remove the blank line if you wish, but delete the '. for certain
[08:15] <airtonix> rfxcasey, ie two copies of firefox...version 2 and 3.... you cd into the v3 folder and forget to prefix firefox.sh with ./ and you end up running v2
[08:15] <meyos> its not a blank line, the last line ends without the '.
[08:15] <legend2440> frybye: yes it is very outdated
[08:16] <goodi__> Can I somehow "force" gnome to detect my blank dvd for burning? Because currently gnome only detects it on reboot
[08:16] <frybye> legend2440: so outdated as to be of little value imho .. a lot of the time it will say - not supported - but under hardy (+) out of the box in fact...
[08:17] <meyos> ill remove it any way and see what happens
[08:17] <airtonix> rfxcasey, because i assume that vegastrike expects that your current working directory will have its data files.
[08:18] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: Ok, I copied a new file into the library, and it has the same problem as the old file. You change the tag but it re-opens with the old tag
[08:18] <balz> Anybody here have experience with mythtv/mythweb?  #ubuntu-mythtv seems to be empty, or everyone is afk
[08:18] <airtonix> rfxcasey, so by moving into the vegastrike folder first with cd , and then executing it locally you provide vegastrike with a valid 'current working directory' that actually contains the files it expects to find
[08:18] <meyos> it wont let me save?
[08:18] <paul68> what is the correct syntax to check with nmap if my network is safe should this be nmap -PO -O ip isp or do I need another option
[08:18] <_2> airtonix i "think" he's using a wrapper with  cd path/to/vegastrick ;vegastrick.executable.name
[08:19] <moidekar> meyos, you did use sudo gedit, right?
[08:19] <airtonix> _2, yep i understand that ... its the space before the semicolon thats confusing him/her
[08:19] <_2> no
[08:19] <rfxcasey> airtonix,  so why don't other programs have a problem like this?
[08:19] <meyos> lol no let me try, sorry, im a rookie
[08:19] <_2> white space before and after ; are ignored in shell syntax
[08:19] <airtonix> rfxcasey, just how each person makes them. some are lazy some are not...games are notorius for this
[08:20] <tsukasa_> hey, how do i redirect the output of a shell command to a file?
[08:20] <paul68> what is the correct syntax to check with nmap if my network is safe should this be nmap -PO -O ip isp or do I need another option
[08:21] <rfxcasey> airtonix, yea sorry for the bad question I know it's to generalized
[08:21] <legend2440> tsukasa_: you mean like   ls > file.txt?
[08:21] <moidekar> [restarting my ADSL connection, back in a few mins]
[08:21] <nado> hi there
[08:21] <tsukasa_> legend2440: from within a script
[08:21] <airtonix> rfxcasey, :)
[08:21] <fsanlu> howdy peoples. i just installed ubuntu! (yeah its great!) anyway.. i saved some partition for a windows install.. but then i realzied i dont have any cds. is there a way i can include that unpartitioned space to /
[08:22] <nxmehta> i need to print remotely over the internet from windows to a printer connected to a ubuntu server.  i've set cups/samba up so i can do it on the local LAN, but how should i do it remotely?  am i correct in assuming that i should not use samba remotely (it's insecure)?
[08:22] <legend2440> tsukasa_: oh ok.  sorry not sure about scripts
[08:22] <airtonix> fsanlu, not sure what you mean
[08:23] <nado> anybody got an idea if there's an application for gnome that would replace yakuake for kde? you know, a terminal that pops down from the top of a screen if you press a hotkey
[08:23] <BlueEagle> nxmehta: smb shares has got no business being published to the internet.
[08:23] <airtonix> fsanlu, you dont wnat windows anymore and now you want to make use of the harddrive space it took up as an extra partition for ubuntu?
[08:23] <meyos> moidekar: i still cant update. here is the error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/56928/
[08:23] <fsanlu> airtonix, yes! its just sitting as an unpartitioned space
[08:23] <rfxcasey> airtonix, I'm gonna go now but thanks so much for the help
[08:23] <airtonix> fsanlu, ok there is a page i will get for you on this topic
[08:23] <airtonix> rfxcasey, no problem
[08:24] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: When I open the files in easytag they show up red, which means easytag has automatically changed something. Maybe the files have a bad encoding or something. I'll experiment a bit more but I think those original files had corrupted tags, hence rhythmbox reading the corrupted tag rather than the newly generated tag made by itself or easytag
[08:24] <fsanlu> airtonix, thank you suh :D
[08:24] <rfxcasey> airtonix, I'll look you up if I see you in here again
[08:24] <airtonix> fsanlu, the basic principles are described here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive
[08:24] <BlueEagle> nxmehta: I would investegate the possibillity of printing directly to a cups server.
[08:24] <ce_imyoetz> hy
[08:24] <ce_imyoetz> hy
[08:25] <alanbshepard77> Anyone know how to make screenlets save their settings? I have one or two that work fine after reboot and the rest have to be re set and reconfigured, it's a pain.
[08:25] <meyos> i noticed i have a sources.list witch is blank and a sources.list.save that has all the info
[08:25] <Mao_> Hey guys. I'm trying to install Monodevelop, but gettin' C# error. Anybody can help, plz
[08:25] <airtonix> alanbshepard77, yeah i know...they make me want to destroy things
[08:26] <BlueEagle> nxmehta: alternately you could set up a VPN tunnel of sorts to allow a remote host to access the local smb network.
[08:26] <alanbshepard77> airtonix: :( that means nope, no fix. :(
[08:26] <airtonix> airtonix, well its kinda random
[08:26] <meyos> it seems to me that the could not resolve 'Edgar' has something to do with the problem.
[08:26] <_2> Mao_ may not be related.  but do you have "build-essential" installed ?
[08:27]  * airtonix is an idiot
[08:27] <Mao_> Yeah, I think I do
[08:27] <airtonix> alanbshepard77, its kinda random though...sometimes the settings stick other times after a reboot screenlets i deleted reload themeselves...
[08:28] <fsanlu> airtonix, thank you very much! :)
[08:28] <airtonix> fsanlu, glad to help
[08:28] <HeMan> Hi! How can I increase the arp cache?
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[08:29] <alanbshepard77> airtonix: you know how to make the avant window manager autorun at boot or login. I really only need it for one user account
[08:29] <moidekar> [back online] meyos, any luck with editing the file and then doing the update?
[08:29] <airtonix> alanbshepard77, yep, you can do that in the system -> preferences -> session tool
[08:29] <airtonix> alanbshepard77, the executable is called awn
[08:29] <meyos> i noticed i have a sources.list witch is blank and a sources.list.save that has all the info
[08:29] <meyos> it seems to me that the could not resolve 'Edgar' has something to do with the problem.
[08:30] <legend2440> meyos: have you set up any networks or proxy servers?
[08:30] <jim_p> someone name me a qt app. any app
[08:30] <alanbshepard77> airtonix: ah nice, thanks
[08:30] <meyos> legend2440: no
[08:30] <jim_p> other tham skype and vbox
[08:30] <airtonix> alanbshepard77, i did however make a bash script that would wait about 6 seconds before running awn ...then i just put that script in the tool i mentioned
[08:30] <airtonix> alanbshepard77, its not required though..
[08:30] <legend2440> meyos: open synaptic and try the Reload button
[08:31] <airtonix> jim_p, googleearth uses qt
[08:31] <maddy> i have installed tomcat5.5 on ubuntu -8.04 hardy, it is running fine. Now i want to install hudson build tool using tomcat5.5. is there any related document??
[08:31] <meyos> legend2440: i get abunch of errors
[08:31] <airtonix> jim_p, but then googleearth isnt a real linux app
[08:31] <jim_p> airtonix: i was looking for a non-propriatary app
[08:31] <jim_p> airtonix: why?
[08:32] <alanbshepard77> airtonix: K, cool. You've been a big help.
[08:32] <Mao_> _2 Yeah I had it. Any other ideas? If you want I can send you the copy of the error message
[08:32] <airtonix> jim_p, because its still win32 code wrapped in a wine shell
[08:32] <scuser> dear all, I'm trying to kerberize lustre using the command "sudo mount -t lustre -o sec=krb5i /dev/sda8 /mnt/data/mdt/" but I got error saying that sec is an invalid option I don't know why please help
[08:32] <legend2440> meyos: open synaptic>settings>repositories   which Download server are you using?
[08:32] <jim_p> airtonix: like picassa? google-native-linux apps my ass
[08:33] <airtonix> jim_p, yeah its almost insulting if i took in personally
[08:33] <meyos> legend2440: server for united states
[08:33] <jim_p> airtonix: lmao
[08:34] <airtonix> jim_p, and this is from a open standards company...
[08:34] <legend2440> meyos: try changeing that to   Main Server and then try Reload button
[08:35] <jim_p> airtonix: well, if you take a look at code.google.com you will see a ton of native linux apps, NONE of which is in the repo
[08:35] <meyos> legend2440: errors
[08:35] <meyos> im doomed:(
[08:36] <airtonix> jim_p, just because a project is on code.google.com doesnt mean its owned by google. there is a process by which applications have to adhere to before they become candidates for the ubuntu repositories
[08:36] <hosstest> can someone please tell me how to change my start up splash?
[08:36] <airtonix> jim_p, but that process isnt hard...its just up to the developers to take those steps
[08:36] <jim_p> hosstest: the one with the ubuntu and the loading bar underneath?
[08:37] <hosstest> jim_p:  That is correct
[08:37] <jim_p> airtonix: meanwhile, all we have is crapy, non native linux apps! is google gadgets native at least?
[08:37] <legend2440> meyos: is this a wireless connection?
[08:37] <jim_p> !usplash | hosstest
[08:37] <airtonix> hosstest, The Great Desktop Effects FAQ of 2008 : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=809695
[08:38] <meyos> legend2440: no wireless
[08:38] <LuYu> how does one get the current display resolution for X
[08:38] <LuYu> commandline, not GUI
[08:38] <legend2440> meyos: it is wireless?
[08:38] <LuYu> cause im not using gnome
[08:39] <meyos> legend2440: wired connection
[08:40] <bentob0x> is it a way to know when the last fsck was done?
[08:40] <airtonix> jim_p, not too sure i havent looked into it, on the surface it looks like it is
[08:40] <legend2440> meyos: open system>administration>network then Unlock  and check in the diffrernt tabs for any reference to Edgar
[08:40] <bentob0x> some quick command?
[08:41] <jepes> hi guys, can anyone teach me or give me a link to expand my 3Gig reiserfs partion?
[08:41] <_2> LuYu what de are you using ?    but xwininfo should work
[08:41] <jim_p> airtonix: ok. it seems that google did make something!
[08:42] <LuYu> xfce
[08:42] <LuYu> i managed an upgrade to hardy
[08:42] <LuYu> but everything on my desktop went haywire
[08:42] <meyos> legend2440: I dont see Edgar
[08:42] <LuYu> i think its the X server
[08:42] <filsuf> hallo ... I want a nice laptop, 4gb ram that WORKS with Linux or ubuntu
[08:42] <LuYu> which is good and bad
[08:42] <filsuf> anybody ... any advice?
[08:42] <meyos> this is too strange
[08:42] <filsuf> 12" preferably
[08:43] <_2> LuYu probably the driver, maybe.
[08:43] <jim_p> !usplash > hosstest
[08:43] <airtonix> LuYu, xwininfo -root | grep Width
[08:43] <EvilTchnlgy_> filsuf: 1 sec
[08:43] <airtonix> LuYu, or just plain : xwininfo -root
[08:43] <filsuf> 2 secs already
[08:44] <legend2440> meyos: in terminal try     locate Edgar
[08:44] <meyos> filsuf: inspiron 1525 is what im using, but got some technical difficulties, lol
[08:44] <LuYu> yeah
[08:44] <filsuf> yes meyos .. Dell makes nice laptops .. I want that 13.3"
[08:44] <jim_p> meyos: still no edgar found?
[08:44] <bentob0x> is it a way to know when the last fsck was done?
[08:44] <filsuf> but the wifi is not compatible with Linux
[08:44] <LuYu> grep width?  or -geometry?
[08:45] <filsuf> anything just sounds like TROUBLE
[08:45] <LuYu> oh
[08:45] <jim_p> filsuf: what wlan adapter does it have?
[08:45] <LuYu> yeah, thats up there, too
[08:45] <LuYu> right
[08:45] <filsuf> what's your problem exactly meyos
[08:45] <filsuf> jim_p, dell minichip and some intels
[08:45] <EvilTchnlgy_> filsuf: cant seemt o find the page that had all the popular vendors that sold ubuntu preinstalled...
[08:45] <jim_p> :|
[08:45] <filsuf> there are 3 choices .. none works with Linux
[08:45] <EvilTchnlgy_> filsuf: as noted though dell does sell them now..
[08:45] <meyos> i typed locate Edgar and nothing happened
[08:45] <LuYu> well, its not the X server then
[08:46] <mib_88cqzp94> test..
[08:46] <meyos> filsuf: i cant install or update packages
[08:46] <LuYu> its 1200x900 like its supposed to be
[08:46] <jim_p> filsuf: intel and it does not work with linux?!?!?
[08:46] <mib_88cqzp94> hello everyone :)
[08:46] <airtonix> LuYu, you could try this : xwininfo -root | grep Width -A1
[08:46] <filsuf> I just do not feel like hacking my box anymore
[08:46] <mib_88cqzp94> what are you talking about?
[08:46] <LuYu> now, the question is, why are 16pt fonts suddenly huge
[08:46] <airtonix> LuYu, the -A1 means include the next number of lines also so -A1 means include the next one line found at the match
[08:47] <LuYu> and where did my panel go?
[08:47] <filsuf> 	Intel Next-Gen Wireless-N Mini-card [Included in Price]
[08:47] <filsuf> http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=dndowj1&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&kc=features~lt_pick_panel
[08:47] <LuYu> its cool
[08:47] <LuYu> i found the information i wanted
[08:47] <LuYu> which is good
[08:47] <airtonix> :)
[08:47] <_2> xwininfo -root | grep -A2 -i width
[08:47] <filsuf> that N thing is a PROBLEM for Linux
[08:47] <LuYu> but now i have to figure out how to make the window manager and XFCE play friendly
[08:47] <LuYu> obviously, the new xserver has changed things
[08:48] <LuYu> hmmm
[08:48] <airtonix> LuYu, btw...
[08:48] <airtonix> !who
[08:48] <LuYu> is there a quick way to output what xserver im using?
[08:48] <legend2440> bentob0x: sudo apt-get install showfsck then at terminal type    showfsck
[08:48] <airtonix> LuYu, you mean which window manager
[08:48] <bentob0x> thx legend2440
[08:48] <filsuf> http://tennessee.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=696809
[08:48] <mib_88cqzp94> guys, can I ask something..?
[08:48] <_2> xserver is xorg
[08:49] <EvilTchnlgy_> sure
[08:49] <filsuf> what question?
[08:49] <airtonix> !ask | mib_88cqzp94
[08:49] <LuYu> airtonix: no, which xserver: amd, intel, vga . . .
[08:49] <frybye> mib_88cqzp94: just ask - no need to ask to ask..
[08:49] <LuYu> or do i just have to list the xserver log for that?
[08:49] <mib_88cqzp94> thank you ^_^ I wanna ask: what r u talking about? srry,,
[08:49] <airtonix> LuYu, yes ther is let me try remember
[08:49] <EvilTchnlgy_> ..
[08:49] <LuYu> airtonix: kewl
[08:50] <frybye> mib_88cqzp94: is a support channel for ubuntu linux operating system...
[08:50] <paul68> BlueEagle: are you here?
[08:50] <mib_88cqzp94> hmm
[08:50] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: I found the problem mate :)
[08:50] <abo> is there a way to let ubuntu recognize my hardware again ?
[08:50] <meyos> im doomed :(
[08:50] <legend2440> bentob0x: actually showfsck doesnt show last time fsck was run   showfsck - Show the number of reboots until a forced fsck
[08:51] <frybye> mib_88cqzp94: and so not a place for general chat... specific tech quesitons about this o.system..
[08:51] <airtonix> LuYu,  glxinfo | head
[08:51] <mib_88cqzp94> another question: any suggestion on cool download manager for ubuntu?
[08:51] <bentob0x> that's perfect legend2440 :)
[08:51] <legend2440> bentob0x: ok
[08:51] <bentob0x> I just find my machine a bit 'slow' after each fsck
[08:51] <LuYu> airtonix:  thanks, ill try it
[08:51] <airtonix> LuYu, or : glxinfo | grep vendor
[08:51] <frybye> mib_88cqzp94: i think most folks find the one in firefox 3 does it all..
[08:51] <bentob0x> I just want to check before rebooting
[08:52] <airtonix> mib_88cqzp94, if you want a download manager seperate from firefox, try gwget
[08:52] <nagyv> hello, how can I (re)set the resolution of the login screen?
[08:52] <airtonix> !info gwget | mib_88cqzp94
[08:52] <mib_88cqzp94> I dunno firefox 3 has a download manager o_O it seems like just ordinary download
[08:52] <mib_88cqzp94> ok I'll find more info about gwget
[08:52] <LuYu> thats glx, though
[08:52] <LuYu> not X
[08:53] <airtonix> mib_88cqzp94, but be aware things like rapidshare wont work with thigns like gwget unless your a premium member and can see those direct download links
[08:53] <frybye> mib_88cqzp94: if not mistaken it can restart etc..
[08:53] <LuYu> airtonix: i need to know if X is using the AMD geode server
[08:53] <mib_88cqzp94> gwget isn't terminal-based, right? I'm somehow scared of that little black window..
[08:53] <airtonix> mib_88cqzp94, its a frontend to wget
[08:53] <legend2440> bentob0x:  bonager is a program that will warn you if fsck is going to be done    http://www.arsgeek.com/2006/12/06/bonager-is-a-great-ubuntu-tool-for-managing-your-fsck-disk-scans-at-startup/
[08:54] <airtonix> mib_88cqzp94, http://www.gnome.org/projects/gwget/
[08:54] <filsuf> dell with ubuntu ... it sells MORE EXPENSIVELY
[08:54] <filsuf> http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/linux_3x?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
[08:54] <airtonix> mib_88cqzp94, install it with : sudo apt-get install gwget
[08:54] <airtonix> mib_88cqzp94, fear is the mindkiller :)
[08:55] <genericguy> does anyone know how to access rhythymbox's tray icon menu or notification balloon through the python console?
[08:55] <frybye> airtonix: some politicians are thankfull for that imho - sorry OT
[08:55] <EvilTchnlgy_> oo, epic quote airtronix =)
[08:55] <airtonix> :)
[08:55] <mib_88cqzp94> airtonix, you're rite..
[08:56] <mib_88cqzp94> oops, looks like I messed up with the repository links
[08:56] <mib_88cqzp94> I'll try with the local repo then
[08:56] <mib_88cqzp94> the sudo apt-get doesn't work
[08:56] <LuYu> airtonix:  thanks for the help ... im out of time for today :)
[08:57] <airtonix> mib_88cqzp94, one sec you may need to open up some repos
[08:57] <mib_88cqzp94> somehow I prefer Synaptic ;)
[08:57] <frybye> mib_88cqzp94: paste the results from the termin window to - http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and then copy the resulting url for the past here ok?
[08:58] <airtonix> mib_88cqzp94, all good search for it in synaptics then
[08:58] <frybye> minerale: use synaptic - accesses the same data...
[08:58] <mib_88cqzp94> wow, what is the paste.ubuntu.com thing?
[08:58] <drumstyk1> has anyone successfully setup devilspie?? i am trying to figure it out but can't seem to get it to run.  here is my xml http://pastebin.com/m341a9f95
[08:59] <frybye> mib_88cqzp94: it is a way of giving folks here access to the results of stuff you do in the terminal window - to troubleshoot better...
[08:59] <airtonix> !paste | mib_88cqzp94
[08:59] <ptux> hello, i downloaded some isos from the internet, and i'd like to store it on an external HD. the problem is that when i try to copy on the external hd, i receive an error because it's a "too large file"
[08:59] <ptux> how can i fix this problem?
[08:59] <mib_88cqzp94> is it like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/56935/
[08:59] <tiger2wander> hi all
[08:59] <airtonix> mib_88cqzp94, ja you gots it :)
[09:00] <kote__> hallo
[09:00] <mib_88cqzp94> that's cool :)
[09:00] <mib_88cqzp94> hallo, all..
[09:00] <tiger2wander> anybody know about config ping by hostname under firewall?
[09:00] <airtonix> mib_88cqzp94, ah ok run : sudo apt-get update first
[09:00] <mib_88cqzp94> wait a minute, airtonix
[09:00] <airtonix> mib_88cqzp94, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gwget
[09:00] <mib_88cqzp94> i have found the gwget on my local repo
[09:00] <airtonix> mib_88cqzp94,  what repository are you using?
[09:01] <frybye> mib_88cqzp94: well done - you cracked the thing with pasting.. :=)
[09:01] <mib_88cqzp94> (i store the 20gigs on my harddisk :D)
[09:01] <mib_88cqzp94> thanks, frybye :)
[09:01] <airtonix> mib_88cqzp94, lol...nice one did you use apt-mirror or something?
[09:01] <mib_88cqzp94> airtonix: well, local repository? ubuntu hardy
[09:01] <mib_88cqzp94> err.. I dunno what an apt-mirror is..
[09:01] <smadge> ptux: some file syystems dont support large files
[09:02] <airtonix> mib_88cqzp94, how did you get the repository on your hardrive i mean...apt-mirror is one way of doing it
[09:02] <toresn> i have many files in the form 'Seinfeld.S03E01.The.Note.DVDRip.x264-DiGG.mkv' ... how can i mass rename them so that they are on the form '3x01 - The Note.mkv'
[09:02] <frybye> airtonix: does he need to activate "3rd party repos"??
[09:02] <airtonix> frybye, doesnt look like it
[09:02] <airtonix> !info gwget
[09:02] <airtonix> i stand corrected
[09:02] <meyos> legend2440:im going to reboot with cd, but i get no install option
[09:02] <airtonix> mib_88cqzp94,  you need to enable the universe repo
[09:03] <mib_88cqzp94> airtonix: oh well, I copy the repo from someone
[09:03] <frybye> in synaptic - config - repositories/sources or similar...
[09:03] <mib_88cqzp94> then just place it on my HDD coz sometimes I can't find the internet to update
[09:03] <airtonix> mib_88cqzp94, from your intial pastebin looks like the repo is not formed properly
[09:03] <frybye> airtonix: I am at work on xp - help him there pse..
[09:03] <tiger2wander> did you know how to config netbios under firewall?
[09:04] <legend2440> meyos: its the ubuntu livecd?
[09:04] <mib_88cqzp94> airtonix, yeah, I disable all the repo link except the local repo
[09:04] <meyos> im going to reinstall with cd, but i get no install option , anyone can help
[09:04] <airtonix> mib_88cqzp94, i guess you could try search the hardrive manually for he gwget deb
[09:04] <meyos> yes
[09:04] <tiger2wander> i just config ubuntu can ping by hostname but it can not do it after i enabled firewall
[09:04] <tiger2wander> even i add netbios port to firewall
[09:04] <legend2440> meyos: your bios is set to boot from cd?
[09:05] <mib_88cqzp94> airtonix. hey I'm not fond of manual things... i'm using Synaptic and all goes well :D
[09:05] <tiger2wander> anybody know? please help me
[09:05] <airtonix> tiger2wander, firestarter you mean...when you install that it locks everything up turns icmp access off
[09:05] <meyos> do i insert cd and restart ?
[09:05] <frybye> if he accesses the normal repos over the net should be no prob and manual install is not vor everybody I guess....:=)
[09:05] <airtonix> tiger2wander, btw firestarter is just a gui not a firewall itself...iptables has always been on yoursystem
[09:06] <legend2440> meyos: yes insert cd and reboot making sure your bios is set to boot from cd
[09:06] <mib_88cqzp94> airtonix, after several years of windows-based download manager and now facing the plain window of gwget... linux is surely fond of such simple things, arent they?
[09:06] <tiger2wander> airtomix, i'm using ufw, not firestarter
[09:06] <frybye> mib_88cqzp94: you need to do an update - top left in synaptic - after youi click to add new repos...
[09:06] <_2> mib_88cqzp94 i have a profound hatred of automatic crap,  so i guess it takes all kinds.
[09:06] <airtonix> mib_88cqzp94, think of apt-get and synaptics as how windows update should have been
[09:06] <meyos> how can i check the bios?
[09:06] <toresn> i have many files on the form 'Seinfeld.S03E01.The.Note.DVDRip.x264-DiGG.mkv' ... how do i rename them to the form '3x01 - The Note.mkv' ?
[09:07] <tiger2wander> i just edit /etc/nsswitch.conf and /etc/samba/smb.conf to enable to ping by hostname
[09:07] <frybye> and then .. search for the   gwget or...?
[09:07] <mib_88cqzp94> airtonix, I think I'll need the apt-get on the future...but now I'm okay with Synaptics and local-repo :)
[09:07] <legend2440> meyos: not sure about laptops. on mine i hit delete key as its rebooting to enter bios setup mode
[09:07] <tiger2wander> but it false again after i re-enabled firewall
[09:07] <airtonix> mib_88cqzp94, synaptic and apt-get both work from the same place
[09:07] <meyos> ill try
[09:08] <drumstyk1> toresn: i have no experience but have you checked out the bulk renamer under applications>accessories?
[09:08] <airtonix> tiger2wander, why did you edit nsswitch?
[09:08] <frybye> mib_88cqzp94: when ppl give you an apt-get for this or that here - it is very easy to copy and past it to the terminal ans so have no mistakes etc..
[09:08] <kizm0> hello
[09:08] <jim_p> meyos: still no edgar? are you behind some proxy?
[09:09] <mib_88cqzp94> frybye, yes it is..
[09:09] <legend2440> meyos: you installed hardy once already right?    how did you do it the last time?
[09:09] <kizm0> this is kind of a random question actually, im usually on topic but i thought id share about something i do as a hobby\living. i make beats.  here's a recent one i made: http://boomp3.com/listen/c1tp9luuu_n/cool-1-2-2  --any comments or help on this would be highly appreciated
[09:09] <mib_88cqzp94> problem: gwget would not download the link I give to him!
[09:09] <meyos> jim_p: im going to reinstall ubuntu
[09:09] <Flannel> kizm0: #ubuntu-offtopic would be the place to discuss that
[09:09] <toresn> drumstyk1: i'd prefer to learn doing it via the command line
[09:10] <kizm0> ah
[09:10] <_2> legend2440 and meyos some bios' use 'left-shift' some 'F2' some 'F1'  some 'delete'   some 'escape'  it's really maker specific.
[09:10] <tiger2wander> airtonix, i added wins to hosts: to enable it detects wins network
[09:10] <meyos> legend2440: i had vista before, ubuntu started up when i restarted
[09:10] <jim_p> meyos: tough call
[09:11] <jim_p> meyos: can you show me that pastebin that said edgar again?
[09:11] <meyos> i know i dont want to reinstall but hopefully it fixes my problem
[09:11] <frybye> mib_88cqzp94: some download sites use code that requires that it is a normal browser that is d-loading i guess...
[09:11] <meyos> jim_p: sure, one second
[09:12] <mib_88cqzp94> frybye: well, the download link is from a website that ask for temporary username and password for login. Is it the case? So I can't use download manager?
[09:12] <frybye> mib_88cqzp94: i am no expert - perhaps others know better.. ??
[09:12] <frybye> i have to  bout outa here for a bit - good luck!!!
[09:13] <mib_88cqzp94> frybye: okay, thank you so much :)
[09:13] <_2> mib_88cqzp94 try "anonamus" ?  password is your email addy
[09:13] <mib_88cqzp94> _2: what do you mean?
[09:14] <_2> mib_88cqzp94 username "anonamus"
[09:14] <mib_88cqzp94> hey... even the gwget doesn't have the progress bar :(( so frustatingly simple...
[09:14] <meyos> jim_p: what u think, should i reinstall?
[09:14] <mib_88cqzp94> I'm used to see the download progress bar, not just a text of percentage..
[09:14] <Matthai> hi, I have Asus eeepc 1000 and can't set resolution to 1024x600 - this resolution is not available at all
[09:16] <mib_88cqzp94> okay, if the gwget won't work on the protected website... then what about the download manager from Firefox 3?
[09:16] <jim_p> meyos: reinstall is like... i give up! if the problem has tired you that uch, reinstall
[09:16] <mib_88cqzp94> what is a download manager after all? if it can pause the download, and then resume, does it called download manager?
[09:17] <meyos> ive been at it for 4 hours, i checked ubuntu.forums, and google, and here, but nothing :(
[09:17] <jim_p> meyos: give me that pastebin
[09:18] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: Yep, some dummy put apev2 tags in the mp3 files
[09:18] <meyos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/56939/
[09:18] <EvilTchnlgy_> i jsut hapened o open irc abck up when u said that ahha
[09:18] <EvilTchnlgy_> wow haha. knew there was some other non id3 2.34 tags there haha!
[09:18] <EvilTchnlgy_> *2.3
[09:19] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: Yeah once I knew the problem the solution was simple, remove the ape tags
[09:19] <jim_p> meyos: well if edgar is not a proxy, not some pc on the local network, not some access point, not some dns server, what can it be?
[09:19] <mib_88cqzp94> ah, stupid me. of course i've been deceived by the first impression of gwget.
[09:19] <_2> wow.  nmap can get the "uptime" from a host   ;/  !!!
[09:19] <mib_88cqzp94> really, they are expert at hiding things..
[09:20] <Abracad4br4> good morning Ubuntu channel :)
[09:20] <sudoconfused> what's good about it?
[09:20] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: i was kinda hoping it was something way more complex... now i feel kinda stupid haha
[09:20] <meyos> ill come back after reinstall and see what happens.
[09:21] <meyos> thanks for all the help everyone that has helped me out.
[09:21] <mib_88cqzp94> Abracad4br4: it is "good afternoon" at my place :)
[09:22] <Abracad4br4> mib_88cqzp94, aha, so you are west of me then! ... In that case good morning to some, good afternoon to others, and good evening for the rest :)
[09:22] <sudoconfused> what's good about it?
[09:23] <Abracad4br4> :)
[09:23] <mib_88cqzp94> sudoconfused, everything is good, don't you know that? :D
[09:24] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: lol, sometimes it's like
[09:24] <filthpig> how do I host a torrent file via Transmission?
[09:24] <filthpig> (if that an be done, that is
[09:24] <filthpig> )
[09:25] <filthpig> can*
[09:25] <EvilTchnlgy_> isn't transmissino for mac?
[09:25] <wendico> Hi and good morning. I have a 3g pcmcia card that is correctly conected and working. the problem is that i have to configure it using commands. Someone can help me to connect using the gnome ui?
[09:25] <sudoconfused> what's good about it?
[09:25] <filthpig> EvilTchnlgy_, well it comes bundled with ubuntu for the last couple of releases..
[09:25] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: nope linux too
[09:25] <EvilTchnlgy_> wendico: the easiest soluton is probably just to amke a script for it....
[09:26] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: might be a different transmission though
[09:26] <EvilTchnlgy_> eviltchnlgy. dang im behind the times aha, no idea how to make torrents with it >< sorrry
[09:26] <mib_88cqzp94> what is a torrent?
[09:26] <scuser> dear all, I'm trying to kerberize lustre using the command "sudo mount -t lustre -o sec=krb5i /dev/sda8 /mnt/data/mdt/" but I got error saying that sec is an invalid option I don't know why please help
[09:26] <waan> A fast stream of water
[09:26] <mib_88cqzp94> how can I download a torrent? how can I use it?
[09:26] <EvilTchnlgy_> a method of distributed distribution
[09:26] <mib_88cqzp94> waan: haha very funny
[09:26] <EvilTchnlgy_> where everyone who has a peice of a file concurrently reuplaods it to other downloaders
[09:26] <wendico> EnilTchnlgy_: cannot i use the nm-applet to configure my dial up umts network?
[09:27] <waan> mib_88cqzp94: just replace water with data
[09:27] <mib_88cqzp94> EvilTchnlgy_, no recursive here please
[09:27] <mib_88cqzp94> EvilTchnlgy_, ooke I think I get it
[09:27] <EvilTchnlgy_> wendico: dialup? didnt u jsut say 3g?
[09:27] <mib_88cqzp94> waan: so that's what u mean :D
[09:27] <mib_88cqzp94> "a stream of data"
[09:27] <waan> mib_88cqzp94: wiki ftw http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_(protocol)
[09:27] <mib_88cqzp94> okay, then it is some kind of data or file, rite?
[09:28] <EvilTchnlgy_> example
[09:28] <wendico> yes, i said so, but im not expert and because the command i use to connect is wvdial, i thought is a dial up conection
[09:28] <EvilTchnlgy_> person x has a file
[09:28] <EvilTchnlgy_> they start a torrent on server y
[09:28] <filthpig> mib_88cqzp94, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_(protocol)
[09:28] <EvilTchnlgy_> people beta and alpha want the file
[09:28] <_2> scuser because mount sees sec= as an nfs4 option.
[09:28] <nagyv> how can I (re)set the resolution of the login screen?
[09:28] <EvilTchnlgy_> so they connect to the torrent and start downloading from person x
[09:28] <airtonix> !enter
[09:28] <mib_88cqzp94> EvilTchnlgy_, go on, I'm listening :)
[09:28] <EvilTchnlgy_> as they download the both upload to each other and downlaod from person x at the same time
[09:29] <EvilTchnlgy_> if person alpha finishes first he continues uplaoding to person beta
[09:29] <scuser> _2: and how I can make it see it as lustre option?
[09:29] <waan> mib_88cqzp94: Each peer who downloads the data also uploads them to other peers...
[09:29] <EvilTchnlgy_> so that you are either seeding: e.g. jsut uloading when you are at 100%
[09:29] <mib_88cqzp94> waan, hmm, just like a multi-level marketing?
[09:29] <_2> scuser rewrite mount and compile it ?
[09:29] <EvilTchnlgy_> or leeching: downloading, or downloading and uploading
[09:29] <waan> lol
[09:29] <mib_88cqzp94> EvilTchnlgy_, then it'll consume large bandwith, doesn't it?
[09:30] <EvilTchnlgy_> its most easily understood witha diagram...
[09:30] <airtonix> mib_88cqzp94, you should have a program called transmission that will deal with torrents
[09:30] <mib_88cqzp94> because of the mechanism of "sharing"
[09:30] <waan> mib_88cqzp94: you can limit the bandwith up/down speeds
[09:30] <airtonix> EvilTchnlgy_, try looking for an animation on youtbue maybe...i think that would describe torrents better
[09:30] <mib_88cqzp94> airtonix, so the Transmission is a name of a program to handle the torrents?
[09:30] <scuser> _2: can't get you what will happen when I rewrite mount it will see again sec as NFS4 option
[09:30] <acp_>  have still pictures and I want to make a kind of presentation/movie like any application can you suggest I been googling and keeps on pointhing me to kino but but is just jpegs  I want to create a movie
[09:30] <airtonix> mib_88cqzp94, its the one i prefer.
[09:31] <mib_88cqzp94> hmm, i'll look in my synaptics again :D
[09:31] <Obuntu> hi all
[09:31] <scuser> _2 : do you know how this may be done ?
[09:31] <waan> mib_88cqzp94: I use transmission, simple and works good
[09:31] <airtonix> mib_88cqzp94, it should be installed already...comes default
[09:31] <kane77> what is the name of the module for nvidia cards?
[09:31] <acp_> what application should I use to make a movie like out of still pictures?
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> acp_: you could use impress or put the pics on layers and save as gif, it will be an naimated gif
[09:31] <airtonix> kane77, nv ?
[09:31] <_2> scuser no.   and by 'rewrite' i meant editing the source code.
[09:31] <waan> kane77: nv, or nvidia I Think
[09:31] <joey__> hello
[09:32] <mib_88cqzp94> airtonix, yup I found the transmission, currently am installing it
[09:32] <scuser> _2: so which files needs to be rewritten?
[09:32] <kane77> waan, airtonix thank you.. I'm trying to get suspend working and I guess I need to unload that module
[09:32] <waan> !nvidia | kane77
[09:32] <mib_88cqzp94> but isn't torrent dangerous? I heard they mostly contain viruses?
[09:32] <wendico> hello, can I define my wvdial configuration into my network manager "nm-applet" so i can connect to using gnome ui? If so, can someone help me in doing it?
[09:32] <joey__> how to make my cairo dock visible automatically when i start my computer?
[09:32] <joey__> anybody?
[09:32] <acp_> thanks
[09:33] <airtonix> kane77, actually thats an issue thats deeply rooted in the acpi of your motherboard....there is much contreversy over foxconn and its handling of linux in terms of that topic
[09:33] <joey__> hello
[09:33] <joey__> anybody pls ans my question
[09:33] <_2> scuser unless the man page is way behind (which is possable) then there is no sec= for anything but nfs4.  the ones that add luster support.    that's as far as i can go there.  sorry.
[09:33] <Obuntu> I am new in ubuntu and want to make ubuntu box as company firewall what do you suggest for me ?? right now i'm using checkpoint and need something easy to configure <.... pleas help ME
[09:33] <airtonix> kane77, many people dont like to talk about it, but i feel that something is amiss in that area
[09:34] <mib_88cqzp94> next question about Transmission: if I wanna download a torrent, which one should I choose: Open or Create new torrent?
[09:34] <kane77> airtonix, sad thing is that before 8.04 suspend worked fine, now it does not wake up :(
[09:34] <scuser> _2: thanks for your help and time :)
[09:34] <koshari> anyone got clutch working?
[09:34] <airtonix> kane77, just so you know, foxconn are the guys who make about 90% of the motherboards for all the mobo companies
[09:34] <joey__> anyone?
[09:34] <joey__> pls....
[09:34] <joey__> help me.
[09:34] <airtonix> kane77, that is because of how linux has had to compensate for the way the acpi does not stick to standards
[09:35] <wendico> joey_: System-Preferences-Sessions
[09:35] <kane77> airtonix, ok, I'm going to try it out..
[09:35] <mib_88cqzp94> joey__, i'm still looking for Cairo Dock..
[09:35] <_2> !autostart > Joey__
[09:35] <_2> oops
[09:36] <EvilTchnlgy_> is it
[09:36] <filthpig> well.. Can I host a torrent directly through Transmission or not?
[09:36] <airtonix> kane77, but dont rely on my info in that department, you read all about the debalce here http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=869249
[09:36] <EvilTchnlgy_> !autostart | joey__
[09:36] <_2> EvilTchnlgy_ he already left before i tried that.
[09:36] <EvilTchnlgy_> didnt see hehe
[09:37] <airtonix> filthpig, maybe ask that in the transmission channel, i know torrents start seeding once i have downloaded them
[09:37] <wendico> ﻿hello, can I define my wvdial configuration into my network manager "nm-applet" so i can connect to using gnome ui? If so, can someone help me in doing it?
[09:37] <mib_88cqzp94> next question about Transmission: if I wanna download a torrent, which one should I choose: Open or Create new torrent?
[09:38] <alrex021> After kernel update, my vmware of course stopped working. I am getting a strange error though when trying to run /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl
[09:39] <idefix> Flannel?
[09:39] <_2> wendico i think that a wvdial script in /etc/ppp/peers/ can handle that.   and no i can't walk you through it though.
[09:39] <alrex021> /tmp/vmware-config3/vmnet-only/bridge.c:890: error: redefinition of ‘sock_valbool_flag’
[09:39] <idefix> I have now edgy on my PC but still no JAVA
[09:39] <gonzaloaf_laptop> hi, the boot time of my ubuntu have increased a bit more, when its booting it stops long time at 'booting cups daemon...' then when gdm loads it takes a minute to load all my desktop, what could be happening?
[09:39] <g33k_gir1> ok... so, I have a RAM/performance question: I have 2 x 1GB DDR2 800 RAM modules installed on the mobo. I have some leftover 512MB DDR2 566 modules lying around. will I get better performance with 2GB of 800 RAM only, or should I stick in the leftover older modules to give me 3GB, but will probably run at the slower speed of 566?
[09:39] <alrex021> whats the easiest way to rebuild the vmware install with new kernel?
[09:40] <gonzaloaf_laptop> I cannot also make ping to my router
[09:40] <alrex021> I did an update on linux-kernel-devel too
[09:40] <alrex021> but still same error
[09:41] <wendico> _2: Thanks, so that means I cannot use the ui and i have to use scripts?
[09:41] <_2> wendico no.  it means that the ui does use the scripts.
[09:41] <Obuntu> hi all
[09:41] <Obuntu> any expert in FW
[09:42] <jim_p> !broadcom
[09:43] <_2> wendico it been ages sense i messed with the gui dialer  but i do recall that the config files in /etc/ppp/ and scripts in /etc/ppp/peers/  are how to get it to use wvdial.   note" there may be a gui way to reach that end too.
[09:43] <_2> it has
[09:43] <wendico> _2: uff, im to retarded to undestand, just kidding, im not linux expert neither english speaker so i dont get what u mean. Are u telling me i should configure that script so after it, i can connect with mi Network Manager ui?
[09:44] <gonzaloaf_laptop> hi, why I am not able to make ping to my laptop that its connected by wireless? I can navigate but not ping to the router
[09:45] <wendico> gonzaloaf_latptop: hi, your are probably unabling pinging on the router
[09:45] <_2> wendico yes.   that's the "jest" of it.    <!sp> gist ?
[09:45] <wendico> _2: thanks, im gonna try to mesh with that scripts
[09:45] <gonzaloaf_laptop> wendico, yes, but I can surf the web... it is very weird
[09:45] <Obuntu> I need to make ubuntu box as firewall can someone help?
[09:46]  * _2 doesn't spell english.
[09:47] <_2> !firewall > Obuntu
[09:47] <Obuntu> _2 yes
[09:47] <jivan28> hi guys, how do I change my graphics driver to intel from vesa, I'm having intel 845
[09:47] <wendico> gonzaloaf_laptop: is not weird, is very normal to allow browse (port 80)  but not allow pinging in a router for security reasons. If you like to ping, try logging in your router (http://defaultgatewayip) and under security or managment options, enable ping in the internal network
[09:47] <idefix> what does rpm stand for?
[09:47] <jivan28> Intel 845 GM motherboard
[09:47] <jivan28> idefix: redhat package manager
[09:48] <idefix> jivan28, also in this context? ./jre-6u7-linux-i586-rpm.bin: 442: rpm: not found
[09:48] <gonzaloaf_laptop> wendico, but I cannot ping another users in the network either
[09:48] <jivan28> !intel
[09:48] <jivan28> !xorg
[09:48] <DJones> !rpm > idefix
[09:49] <_2> !dpkg > idefix
[09:49] <idefix> java is supposed to be downloadable from the repos, yet it doesn't work on my system
[09:50] <wendico> gonzaloaf_laptop: if you are trying to ping through a wireless network, it may be cut in the router ass well, if you are trying to ping trough ethernet, probably the destination is blocking that ping
[09:50] <Obuntu> _2 can I PM you ?
[09:50] <ziroday> idefix: java is downloadable from the ubuntu repos
[09:50] <_2> you can try.
[09:51] <idefix> ziroday I have them all green, still it does not work :(
[09:51] <wendico> gonzaloaf_laptop: try pinging www.google.com (that has open ping) to test from diferent computers in your network
[09:51] <ziroday> idefix: how are you starting it?
[09:51] <wendico> going to get breakfast, see u in a while :)
[09:51] <idefix> ziroday by opening a web-page that needs it
[09:51] <gonzaloaf_laptop> wendico, I can ping google but no any computer on my network
[09:52] <Dj_SiR> gud pm from kalibo aklan philippines
[09:52] <EvilTchnlgy_> I am going to ened help administering a server from some poepl who arent familiar enough to ssh in
[09:52] <EvilTchnlgy_> any ideas for a good webpanel?
[09:52] <ziroday> idefix: have you installed the package sun-java6-plugin?
[09:52] <Dj_SiR> i want to seek help from anyone who could help me with my problem
[09:52] <EvilTchnlgy_> i thught of webmin and ehcp...
[09:52] <idefix> ziroday: don't think so
[09:52] <ziroday> idefix: you need to
[09:53] <EvilTchnlgy_> but any other ideas?
[09:53] <Dj_SiR> anyone pls?
[09:53] <ziroday> !webmin > EvilTchnlgy_
[09:53] <ziroday> Dj_SiR: we need to know your problem to help you
[09:53] <idefix> ziroday, that's version 6 and the other one was version 5?
[09:53] <EvilTchnlgy_> [04:52] <EvilTchnlgy_> i thught of webmin and ehcp...
[09:53] <ziroday> idefix: correct
[09:53] <Dj_SiR> thnx ziroday...
[09:53] <amazin> EvilTchnlgy_: the remote is a linux host.. oder win?
[09:53] <EvilTchnlgy_> oder?
[09:53] <Dj_SiR> i installed ubuntu within windows... then the system says it will reboot
[09:53] <amazin> sry
[09:53] <amazin> or
[09:54] <Dj_SiR> after rebooting i don't see anything that means to run ubuntu...
[09:54] <EvilTchnlgy_> ubuntu servre. and im looking for a webpanel. so the client shoudlnt mater but we can assume windows
[09:54] <ziroday> Dj_SiR: are you using wubi?
[09:54] <Dj_SiR> yes
[09:54] <Dj_SiR> wubi...
[09:54] <ziroday> EvilTchnlgy_: I just gave you information on that
[09:54] <EvilTchnlgy_> ziroday: [04:52] <EvilTchnlgy_> i thught of webmin and ehcp...
[09:55] <Dj_SiR> how will i start ubunti when i installed it using wubi....
[09:55] <Dj_SiR> the windows system has restarted...
[09:55] <ziroday> !webmin | EvilTchnlgy_
[09:55] <ziroday> Dj_SiR: it should pop up during bootup, one minute please
[09:55] <idefix> ziroday: am I garantueed it will work after the installation?
[09:55] <ziroday> idefix: nothing is guarenteed.
[09:55] <Dj_SiR> i don't see any pop up at all...
[09:55] <idefix> but but but
[09:56] <ziroday> idefix: but hopefully yes :)
[09:56] <Dj_SiR> when my system restarted... it was just windows... no other option...
[09:56] <mib_88cqzp94> guys.. I have a serious question: is it dangerous to left just 200MB spaces on your ROOT drive?
[09:56] <Dj_SiR> when i check in my add/remove programs it says... ubuntu is installed
[09:56] <idefix> :\
[09:57] <Dj_SiR> so what will i do to activate ubuntu?
[09:58] <filthpig> activate?
[09:58] <idefix> why does installing java so often result in complaining about permissions and ownership? I thought java was supposed to make programming easier over different platforms!
[09:59] <ziroday> Dj_SiR: please ask your question in http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234 Whilst waiting for help you can read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[09:59] <Dj_SiR> hmmmmm... it seems no one is interested to help me out...
[09:59] <ziroday> Dj_SiR: we are helping you, it takes time however. Please be patient
[09:59] <mib_88cqzp94> guys.. I have a serious question: is it dangerous to left just 200MB spaces on your ROOT drive?
[09:59] <ziroday> !patience | Dj_SiR
[09:59] <idefix> what's the difference between jdk-1_5_0-doc.zip and jdk-1_5_0-doc-ja.zip ?
[09:59] <ziroday> mib_88cqzp94: what do you mean by root drive?
[10:00] <Dj_SiR> anyway i appreciate it... thank you so much...
[10:00] <ziroday> idefix: one has japanese I think
[10:00] <erwin_> hi i have a my network does not work on a fresh ubuntu installion.. please help :(
[10:00] <filthpig> Dj_SiR, if somebody who CAN help are available, they will help out. Even though people are logged in here, doesn't mean they are in front of their computer the entire time or simply idling just waiting to answering a question
[10:00] <mib_88cqzp94> ziroday: I mean, the "/" drive... and it's not even 200MBs, it's just 120MBs!
[10:00] <erwin_> hi my network does not work on a fresh ubuntu installion.. please help :(
[10:01] <ziroday> mib_88cqzp94: yes that is dangerous. You can install localepurge to save some space and launch the disk usage anylazer to see where it is all being used up.
[10:01] <Mickmeister> Does anybody have any idea why my desktop cube may not be working? I tick the box to enable it in compiz settings manager and it just doesn't work. It seems as though the more fancy effects aren't working, where as the more basic ones such as wobbly windows are.
[10:01] <mib_88cqzp94> ziroday: you know, in Windoze, if the drive C: is left with such little space, it'll screamin' "not enough free space" etc..
[10:01] <kmg> I encounter this error whenever I try to do anything involving packages:
[10:01] <filthpig> erwin_, please be a bit more specific. Is it wireless networking that doesn't work?
[10:01] <kmg> 'E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/wine.budgetdedicated.com_apt_dists_hardy_main_binary-i386_Packages, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.'
[10:01] <mib_88cqzp94> ziroday: what is localepurge?
[10:02] <erwin_> filthpig: its wired, and am using sis190 chipset
[10:02] <ziroday> mib_88cqzp94: it is a program that gets rid of unneeded locales (translations)
[10:02] <mib_88cqzp94> well, my "/" drive is just 7.5 GBs in size, no wonder it gets filled up so quick =_=
[10:02] <erwin_> filthpig: it could not get ip configs from dhcp, but when i try windows it does without any problems
[10:03] <mib_88cqzp94> ziroday: ok, I've installed localepurge. Then it pops up with a list of weird-name files..
[10:04] <ziroday> mib_88cqzp94: what language is your native language?
[10:04] <mib_88cqzp94> ziroday: ok, lets see... I'm Indonesian, but never use that language for computer. So, it'll be English. Oh, and I'll need Japanese and Arabic, too.
[10:04] <mib_88cqzp94> ziroday: so which one should I choose?
[10:05] <filthpig> erwin_, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2410996#post2410996 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76889 for possible help. It seems your problem is not unique
[10:05] <faileas> anyone know of any free software that can backup to something restorable from bare metal on multiple DVDs - mondo dosen't seem to work for me so thats out....
[10:05] <ziroday> mib_88cqzp94: en_US or en_UK or which ever one you are, I think JP is japan and AR is arabic, not sure lemme check
[10:05] <kmg> I encounter this error whenever I try to do anything involving packages: 'E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/wine.budgetdedicated.com_apt_dists_hardy_main_binary-i386_Packages, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.'
[10:05] <erwin_> filthpig: will check it out thanks
[10:06] <mib_88cqzp94> ziroday or someone else: what is the difference of en_US, en_US.ISO-8859-15, and en_US.UTF-8? Which one should I choose...?
[10:07] <_2> kmg sudo apt-get update   ?
[10:07] <ziroday> mib_88cqzp94: you can choose all of them
[10:07] <mib_88cqzp94> oh, and those are things called "locale files", whatever it means..
[10:07] <mib_88cqzp94> ziroday: must I choose all of them?
[10:07] <ziroday> mib_88cqzp94: only the ones you want
[10:07] <mib_88cqzp94> ziroday: why not just "en" or "en_US"?
[10:07] <_2> mib_88cqzp94 probably the utf8
[10:08] <erUSUL> mib_88cqzp94: choose utf-8
[10:08] <mib_88cqzp94> ziroday, oh ok.. but I don't understand their difference..
[10:08] <mib_88cqzp94> erUSUL: why so?
[10:08] <ziroday> mib_88cqzp94: en will have every language with en, en_US will have every language with en_US in it
[10:08] <erUSUL> mib_88cqzp94: ISO-8859-15 is legacy
[10:08] <mib_88cqzp94> erUSUL: er, sorry.. but what do you mean by "legacy"?
[10:09] <Ububegin> what the linux command to find the amount of memory being used at any moment
[10:09] <hume> Ububegin, free
[10:09] <erUSUL> mib_88cqzp94: old sooo deprecated by unicode (utf-8)
[10:09] <mib_88cqzp94> sorry guys, I really don't understand these things... and thanks for helping me out :)
[10:09] <erUSUL> mib_88cqzp94: old soon deprecated by unicode (utf-8)
[10:09] <mib_88cqzp94> erUSUL, ok, so utf-8 is Newer than ISO-whatisit, rite?
[10:10] <erUSUL> mib_88cqzp94: yep
[10:10] <owner> hello everybody
[10:10] <Ububegin> hume: merci , dude
[10:10] <owner> where are you?
[10:11] <erUSUL> mib_88cqzp94: ubuntu has allways used utf8 by default in its installs... you should have a very good reason to choose otherwise and given that you can not tell the difference you do not have that good reason
[10:11] <_2> Ububegin free -h
[10:11] <mib_88cqzp94> erUSUL: rite :) and then, what about Japanese and Arabic locale files?
[10:12] <mib_88cqzp94> is there any website giving explanation about these "locale files"?
[10:12] <erUSUL> mib_88cqzp94: you need them?
[10:12] <erwin_> filthpig: those seem to be fixes for older kernel versions. I already installed the latest kernel from hardy repo :(
[10:12] <erUSUL> mib_88cqzp94: why not simply use System>Admin>Language support?
[10:12] <mib_88cqzp94> erUSUL: the explanation? well, I wanna know, esp. the meaning of those name of locale files..
[10:13] <mib_88cqzp94> erUSUL: er, mayber becoz I don't realize that. thanks, will try it now..
[10:13] <kmg> _2: same error
[10:13] <_2> Ububegin i might warn you that most people fail to notice that the top line of the free output is not what one might call "accurate" as per usage.
[10:13] <erUSUL> mib_88cqzp94: utf-8 and ISO-8859-15 and ascii (to name the most widely know) are different sytems to encode characters on a computer
[10:13] <mib_88cqzp94> erUSUL: okay...
[10:14] <mib_88cqzp94> erUSUL: but unfortunately the System>Admin>Lang Support doesn't give any explanation..
[10:14] <mib_88cqzp94> erUSUL: you see, I'm trying to figure out which one I should choose in localepurge
[10:14] <_2> kmg hmmm   sudo mv /var/lib/apt/lists/wine.budgetdedicated.com_apt_dists_hardy* /root ;sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/* ;sudo apt-get update
[10:15] <filthpig> erwin_, that is often the case. However, if it worked then, it will probably work now, too. Just change the kernel version to your current one.
[10:15] <mib_88cqzp94> has anyone use localepurge?
[10:15] <erUSUL> mib_88cqzp94: we already give you the answer... keep the utf-8 locales unless you know you need any other
[10:15] <_2> mib_88cqzp94 i think the installer still runs that to clean up after itself ?    or it used too.
[10:16] <erwin_> filthpig: i didn't work with my old kernel so i tried upgrading.. same thing happens.
[10:16] <mib_88cqzp94> erUSUL: that's okay with the English (en), but I can't figure out to choose the Japanese and the Arabic coz the name is ambiguous
[10:16] <erwin_> filthpig: *it
[10:16] <Ububegin> _2: Oh.. so it only an approx , You mean
[10:16] <mib_88cqzp94> ..or maybe I'm having wrong idea about this locale files...? is it the same as Language I install in my ubuntu?
[10:17] <erUSUL> mib_88cqzp94: what are the names?
[10:17] <_2> Ububegin i mean that the line below it. {-/+ buffers/cache:} is the actual used memory
[10:17] <mib_88cqzp94> erUSUL: the names from "localepurge", u mean?
[10:18] <erUSUL> yep btw http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Character_set
[10:18] <filthpig> erwin_, okay. I'm not very good at problems like that so I can't help any more than just finding other peoples solutions to the problem. Sorry. Let's hope somebody else can help out
[10:18] <idefix> how much can we tolerate things/people that don't make sense?
[10:18] <mib_88cqzp94> i;m still on the step of "Configuring Localepurge", hav just installed the program several mins ago
[10:18] <mib_88cqzp94> erUSUL: the code name for Arabic is obviously "ar",,maybe
[10:19] <mib_88cqzp94> erUSUL: but I didn't find code name "jp" for Japanese, instead there are "ja", "ja_JP"
[10:20] <_2> Ububegin free reports my system using 78m of ram  but without counting the buffers it's only 19m used.   as also reported in /proc/meminfo when parsed correctly.    Memory Used/Total Percent: 19/502 MB (3%)
[10:20] <erUSUL> mib_88cqzp94: ja_JP is japanese_japan
[10:20] <mib_88cqzp94> erUSUL: ok.. I choose ar, en, and jp
[10:20] <zetheroo> is there a way to search for computers on the network?
[10:21] <erUSUL> zetheroo: nmap the net
[10:21] <zetheroo> erUSUL  : how?
[10:21] <owner> what?
[10:21] <zetheroo> erUSUL : how does that work? ... from the terminal?
[10:21] <mib_88cqzp94> guys... I have run the localepurge - unfortunately it just save 35MBs
[10:21] <owner> erusul??
[10:21] <erUSUL> zetheroo: install zenmap (a gui for nmap) and d a basic scan
[10:22] <mib_88cqzp94> so the free space in my "/" drive is still 150MBs
[10:22] <erUSUL> owner: ?
[10:22] <mib_88cqzp94> it is still dangerous, isn't it?
[10:22] <zetheroo> erUSUL  : ok .. thanks
[10:22] <mib_88cqzp94> is there a way to enlarge the "/" drive? becoz I hav tried with gParted but it can't do anything to the "/" drive...
[10:22] <erUSUL> zetheroo: idf what you want is find windows shares and the like just go to Places>Net>Windows Network
[10:23] <erUSUL> mib_88cqzp94: you have to do it from a livecd
[10:23] <erUSUL> mib_88cqzp94: gparted can not touch mounted filesystems
[10:23] <mib_88cqzp94> erUSUL: for example... I mount Ubuntu livecd, and run GParted from there?
[10:23] <aptux> How can i completely delete everything from hardrive to install windows normally? WinSetup sees separate disks now...
[10:23] <zetheroo> erUSUL  : yes
[10:23] <mib_88cqzp94> erUSUL: so that's why I failed with gParted..
[10:24] <erUSUL> mib_88cqzp94: no you *boot* the ubuntu livecd
[10:24] <mib_88cqzp94> erUSUL: LOL yeah of course...
[10:24] <mib_88cqzp94> hehehe sorry
[10:24] <_2> mib_88cqzp94 why try to streach a filesystem when you can just mount more space where you need it.   mount a filesystem on /home  or on /tmp on /var/cache/apt/archives  on /usr  even.   just don't try it with / or /etc or /*bin
[10:25] <erUSUL> aptux: delete all partitions during win install (and create a new one for windows)
[10:25] <mib_88cqzp94> but there's something weird... in Nautilus, when I point on FileSystems it said that the free space is 150MBs, but when I use gParted, it said the free space is 500MBs... why's that?
[10:25] <hume> after a reinstallation on ubuntu hardy, formatting the system partition, I get grub error 22. Anyone got ideas on this?
[10:25] <aptux> erUSUL, it says they are mbr or smth like that.
[10:26] <trilobit`> Hi all. I have a file that contains words which are each in one line and enclosed in quotation marks. How can I get rid of the quotation marks ?
[10:26] <aptux> Just two separate partitions, and win can do nothing
[10:26] <mib_88cqzp94> _2: sorry... I don't get what u mean.. could u pls explain it more?
[10:26] <zetheroo> erUSUL  : where is the shortcut to Zenmap located?
[10:27] <erUSUL> zetheroo: launch it from "Alt + f2"
[10:27] <_2> mib_88cqzp94 have a look at the output of "mount"  and see what all you have mounted now.   in linux the root filesystem / is the base of all filesystems, anything you access is mounted some places on a subdir of /
[10:27] <zetheroo> erUSUL  : shoudl I launch it as root?
[10:27] <erUSUL> zetheroo: yep
[10:27] <_2> mib_88cqzp94 the "df -h" command is handy too.
[10:28] <aptux> I'm using gparted from livecd, but it gives me dev/sda and dev/sdb
[10:28] <aptux> I want my ONE harddrive back :D
[10:28] <erUSUL> aptux: you can use the ubuntu livecd to leave the disk clean with gparted if you like... about how to do it with windows ask in ##windows
[10:29] <jivan28> Hi all, does anybody of a good-looking net applet for systray?
[10:29] <zetheroo> erUSUL  : what shoudl I put in Target?
[10:29] <aptux> it still can not merge two harddrives in one for me, erusul?
[10:29] <toresn> i have many files on the form '1x01 - the note.mkv' ... how do i rename so that i get a capital letter in each word ('1x01 - The Note.mkv')
[10:29] <erUSUL> aptux: if you have /dev/sda and /dev/sdb you have two phisical drives
[10:29] <mib_88cqzp94> me
[10:29] <aptux> How do i make it one?
[10:29] <erUSUL> aptux: nothing you can do about it
[10:29] <aptux> ????
[10:29] <aptux> But...how?
[10:29] <aptux> It was one :D
[10:29] <erUSUL> aptux: maybe you have it raided in the bios...
[10:30] <mib_88cqzp94> _2: the result of "mount" it's here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/56954/
[10:30] <mib_88cqzp94> _2... and then?
[10:30] <aptux> erUSUL, dont think so. i was playing a lot with dd if=... though.
[10:30] <zetheroo> erUSUL  : I put smb:/// in the Target field ... but it did not work
[10:30] <_2> mib_88cqzp94 here's a case example for you.  say i have 4g fs mounted as / and 24g mounted as /home   but the system is full at fs / so i need to make more space.   i have another hdd with plenty of free space so rather than messing around, i mount a 40g fs on /tmp and move everything from /usr to it. then remount it on /usr.   now my system has 3g of free space on / and plenty of room to grow.
[10:31] <_2> wrap your head around the general idea and the rest is childs play.
[10:31] <erUSUL> zetheroo: no; zemap is to scan a net looking for computers attached to it... if you want to look for windows shares use Places>Net>Windows Network
[10:31] <mib_88cqzp94> _2.. ok, let me re-read your sentences one more time, 'kay? :p
[10:32] <zetheroo> erUSUL: oh I see ... but thats the thing... in Nautilus it seems to not show computers that are actually on the network and are available ...
[10:32] <zetheroo> erUSUL : so I was hoping there was something that could be used to search for computers on the network like in Windows XP
[10:33] <wartalker> after i install ipwraw the wireless driver, when i restart, the default driver is it, how to set the iwl3945 to default
[10:33] <_2> mib_88cqzp94 why not pastebin the output of   df -h   also
[10:33] <erUSUL> !samba | zetheroo
[10:34] <wartalker> how to set iwl3945 to the default driver for wireless card
[10:34] <Mickmeister> What is the name of this system performance application on the right hand side? http://www.softpedia.com/screenshots/Mandriva-Linux_2.jpg
[10:35] <mib_88cqzp94> _2, here is my df -h: http://paste.ubuntu.com/56959/
[10:35] <zetheroo> erUSUL  : is SWAT in the repos?
[10:36] <mib_88cqzp94> _2, sorry here is the full result, I've mounted all the drives : http://paste.ubuntu.com/56960/
[10:37] <_2> mib_88cqzp94 have you tracked down what is eating up the space on / ?    du -sh /
[10:37] <mib_88cqzp94> _2 still working..
[10:37] <erUSUL> zetheroo: yep... but swat is mostly for configuring your computer to share things if you are only a client nautilus and smbclient etc should be enough
[10:38] <mib_88cqzp94> _2 usually I use Disk Usage Analyzer tool - away from the terminal ;p
[10:38] <Plz> I`m going to upgrade OpenOffice.org from 2.4.1 to 3.0 now
[10:39] <fenerli7> good idea, you'll never look back
[10:39] <zetheroo> erUSUL : it just seems like Samba is very moody in that it sometimes shows computers on the network and other times does not....
[10:39] <Plz> but I wonder if I shall download the RPM or DEB version from http://download.openoffice.org/other.html
[10:39] <mib_88cqzp94> _2 seems it should be : sudo du -sh /
[10:40] <mib_88cqzp94> _2 .... it still produce errors..
[10:40] <Plz> deb or rpm?
[10:40] <fenerli7> ﻿zetheroo: so it's not just me... if you enter smb://hostname/, it works
[10:40] <erUSUL> !deb | Plz
[10:40] <fenerli7> ﻿Plz: deb of course
[10:40] <Plz> ok. thank you.
[10:40] <linny> anyone know of a converter for nix that will convert .avi to .rec ?
[10:40] <fenerli7> Plz: deb for Ubuntu/Debian/etc., rpm for Fedora/Red Hat/etc.
[10:40] <erUSUL> linny: ffmpeg
[10:40] <erUSUL> ?
[10:40] <zetheroo> fenerli7 : is there no command or app that sniffs out the available computers? ... cause I don' remember all the names ..
[10:41] <go_beep_yourself> linny-> avidemux
[10:41] <fenerli7> zetheroo: not sure, would like to know myself too
[10:41] <mib_88cqzp94> _2 the error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/56961/
[10:41] <zetheroo> I installed SWAT ... how do you open it?
[10:41] <linny> thanks guys
[10:41] <go_beep_yourself> what is swat?
[10:41] <Olof_szary> how much swap I need having 4GB RAM (kubuntu x64) ?
[10:42] <sinan> how can i uninstall a library that was installed with "make install" ?
[10:42] <mgolisch> make uninstall?
[10:42] <go_beep_yourself> sinan-> sudo make unisntall
[10:42] <mgolisch> if it has a uninstall target
[10:42] <_2> mib_88cqzp94 ;/
[10:42] <zetheroo> !SWAT
[10:42] <fenerli7> any web authors, designers, developers here? my Dreamweaver license is increasingly going to waste and I am yet to find a decent Linux alternative (NVU's the best I've found, it is not bad but not great either)
[10:42] <mgolisch> if not just delete the stuff manualy @ sinan
[10:42] <zetheroo> !swat
[10:42] <zetheroo> hmmm
[10:42] <fenerli7> should I try Dreamweaver through Wine?
[10:42] <zetheroo> :)
[10:42] <mib_88cqzp94> _2 what...? ;)
[10:43] <_2> mib_88cqzp94 if you don't want to see error messages chunck them in /dev/null....    du -sm /* 2>/dev/null | sort -g
[10:43] <blackcookie> hi, plis i have problems with the plugins db_ of msf, somebody can help me?
[10:43] <mib_88cqzp94> _2 urgh.. I never like terminal..
[10:43] <sinan> When i have multiple versions of the same library, how does the compiler know which to use?
[10:44] <mib_88cqzp94> _2 you ROCK... those line works!
[10:44] <go_beep_yourself> blackcookie-> #remote-exploit
[10:44] <_2> mib_88cqzp94 i never use a gui  ;/
[10:44] <erUSUL> fenerli7: kompozer... i heard about aptana (eclipse based) http://www.aptana.com/
[10:44] <faileas> anyone know of any free software that can backup to something restorable from bare metal on multiple DVDs - mondo dosen't seem to work for me so thats out....
[10:44] <blackcookie> go_beep_yourself: yeah
[10:44] <mgolisch> sinan: what do you mean by that?
[10:44] <go_beep_yourself> faileas-> sbackup
[10:44] <go_beep_yourself> ?
[10:45] <mgolisch> sinan: ld will use the one it finds first, in the order the dirs are in LD_LIBRARY_PATH and ld.so
[10:45] <fenerli7> ﻿erUSUL: Didn't like Kompozer either but Aptana sure gave a nice first impression from the site
[10:45] <faileas> go_beep_yourself: can i do bare metal recovery from it?
[10:45] <sinan> mgolisch: i have installed 2 version of libmemcached by running "make install" in both. Then, I compile a code that relies on libmemcached, which version will be used?
[10:45] <mib_88cqzp94> _2 the result is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/56962/
[10:45] <fenerli7> ﻿erUSUL: thanks very much
[10:45] <sinan> mgolisch: aha, ok thanks :)
[10:45] <go_beep_yourself> faileas-> it might do what you want. i havent made any backups except using raid 1.
[10:45] <mib_88cqzp94> _2 thanks, terminal-person :D
[10:46] <faileas> go_beep_yourself: yeah, at the moment the only thing that seems to do what i want is mondo (which dosen't work) and acronis (which is quite expensive for something i suspect i only need once)
[10:46] <mib_88cqzp94> _2 but the result is quite weird... isnt it?
[10:46] <go_beep_yourself> faileas-> whats bare metal recovery
[10:46] <xjohnthomasx> anyone have experience setting up mythtv or mysql5??
[10:47] <carandraug> !fonts > carandraug
[10:47] <faileas> go_beep_yourself: i want to backup my system to a DVD or set of DVDs (ideally) or FTP, then be able to restore the system totally from it
[10:47] <faileas> assuming my system was totally hosed
[10:48] <mib_88cqzp94> _2, I think this is the RIGHT one http://paste.ubuntu.com/56964/
[10:48] <_2> mib_88cqzp94 no, it's pretty normal to me.    ok /usr is where you space is being eaten up.  you'll need to put that on a clean "larger" fs. if you can.   or check with  ( du -sm /usr/* 2>/dev/null | sort -g )  to see where withing user it went.  and work from there.
[10:48] <go_beep_yourself> faileas-> i think dd can do it. do you mean similar to norton clone disk?
[10:48] <faileas> go_beep_yourself: norton ghost would be a closer fit
[10:48] <mib_88cqzp94> _2 look! the /usr has 5.3Gigs???
[10:48] <go_beep_yourself> faileas-> dd can do it
[10:48] <_2> mib_88cqzp94 yes.  and the whole / has only 7   duh!
[10:49] <faileas> go_beep_yourself: that seems rather inefficient, and i'd need a linux system to restore with
[10:49] <mib_88cqzp94> _2 i know.. i know... i'm a newbie back then (but still right now :p)
[10:49] <mib_88cqzp94> _2 what size is your / ?
[10:49] <go_beep_yourself> faileas-> dd is made for windows also
[10:49] <trilobit`> Is there any command that changes the login name of a user? As in  "commandhere oldusername newusername"
[10:50] <faileas> go_beep_yourself: well hypothetical scenario - system dies, i pop in DVD 1 of my backup, and it starts restoring everything
[10:50] <mib_88cqzp94> _2 so I basically need to put /usr (or re-mount it) to another place?
[10:50] <faileas> mondo SHOULD do that but it seems broken for me
[10:50] <go_beep_yourself> faileas-> i saw some other software that does what you want. ill try to find it.
[10:50] <_2> mib_88cqzp94 17g / and 80g /home  but that's what size my disks are...  i don't use partitions.
[10:50] <mib_88cqzp94> _2 why no partitions? if u don't mind me asking..
[10:51] <_2> mib_88cqzp94 yes.  "<mib_88cqzp94> _2 so I basically need to put /usr (or re-mount it) to another place? <<<<   exactly.
[10:51] <mib_88cqzp94> _2 mine is 120Gigs and I used up 20Gigs for Ubuntu 8.04 repo :p
[10:51] <go_beep_yourself> faileas-> tell me if this does what  you want http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/partimage
[10:51] <wendico> hello, how can i disconnect my wvdial conecction the correct way? should i just Ctrl+C in the coneccted console?
[10:52] <_2> mib_88cqzp94 i don't really have a reason.   it just seemed l33t to have hdd's with no partition table.   and when i set it up that way, i liked it.
[10:52] <mib_88cqzp94> _2 lol... it sounds cool tho, get some people like me asking curiously :p
[10:53] <FicaBlok38> Hello, i has this problem :
[10:53] <FicaBlok38> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0666, should be 0440
[10:53] <mib_88cqzp94> _2 ok thanks for those cool terminal line, but I really wanna expand the / drive coz it sucks to have only 7gigs..
[10:53] <FicaBlok38> *have
[10:54] <FicaBlok38> can somebody help me?
[10:54] <Werdna> FicaBlok38: did you try changing the mode of /etc/sudoers to 0440?
[10:54] <_2> mib_88cqzp94 but back to your issue.   i would suggest booting a live CD and mounting the sda3 on /mnt  then "what ever partition/device" on /media  and move all the content of /mnt/usr/ to media    edit /mnt/etc/fstab  and set the new space to automaticly mount on /usr when you reboot.   that's all there is to that process.
[10:54] <goldmetal> anyone which app on windows will record voice?
[10:55] <FicaBlok38> werdan7: yeah
[10:55] <wendico> hello, how do i correctly shut down a ppp conection started in console with wvdial?
[10:55] <FicaBlok38> Werdna: yeah
[10:56] <Werdna> FicaBlok38: well, what does it say if you try it?
[10:56] <_2> mib_88cqzp94 but if you prefer streching the fs "which is more risky" feel free to do so.    it is your system   i was just trying to make it easy/safe
[10:56] <FicaBlok38> Werdna: i try chmod 440 /etc/sudoers
[10:56] <go_beep_yourself> goldmetal-> ##windows
[10:57] <FicaBlok38> and it say chmod: changing permissions of `/etc/sudoers': Operation not permitted
[10:57] <stan_> connect
[10:58] <EvilTchnlgy_> does anyone happent o know if redundant power supplies in pweredge servers are completly hardware based or if a software component needs to be installed to support hotswapping?
[10:58] <EvilTchnlgy_> just curious if anyone knows off the top of their head, i havent even googled yet..
[10:59] <_2> mib_88cqzp94 just a side note on the disk usage we were talking about.   of my 17g /  i have  7.5G used   but 4G of that is /var/cache/apt/archives/*   i don't delete downloaded packages.
[11:00] <Werdna> FicaBlok38: you need to be root to change the perms, obviously
[11:00] <Werdna> su -c chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers
[11:01] <go_beep_yourself> wendico-> not sure if this is the correct way but this guide has killall wvdial http://www.davidpashley.com/articles/wvdial-pppd-dod.html
[11:01] <_2> Werdna su ???
[11:01] <Werdna> _2: yep, su
[11:01] <_2> Werdna can he do that ?
[11:01] <odracir34> burp
[11:01] <FicaBlok38> Werdna: Unknown id: 0440
[11:01] <Jerusalem420> something keeps changing my  /etc/resolv.conf. putting in a bad dns sever number.
[11:01] <Jerusalem420> anyideas whats causing this
[11:01] <FicaBlok38> just that
[11:02] <Werdna> su -c
[11:02] <Werdna> erm
[11:02] <Werdna> just su
[11:02] <_2> FicaBlok38 replace su -c   with   sudo     and try it
[11:02] <Jerusalem420> i've written a little script that fixes the problem but i want to find the root cause
[11:02] <HtheB> hi I need some little help :(
[11:02] <FicaBlok38> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0666, should be 0440
[11:02] <Werdna> _2: sudo is the problem.
[11:02] <Werdna> _2: that's why I said use su!
[11:02] <HtheB> When I double click on the window titel, it is "rolling" up
[11:03] <HtheB> how can I change it to "maximize"?
[11:03] <fenerli7> ﻿HtheB: emerald?
[11:03] <Jerusalem420> whats the difference between su and sudo?
[11:03] <_2> Werdna but can he "su"  ?       did he set a password for root ?
[11:03] <HtheB> yes
[11:03] <_2> ok.
[11:03] <HtheB> adamim fener bu sene cok kotu gidiyor :P
[11:03] <carandraug> Jerusalem420: su switches user. Sudo only gives his permissions
[11:03] <fenerli7> HtheB: cok dogru :(
[11:03] <Jerusalem420> thanks carandraug.
[11:04] <FicaBlok38> _2: no, i don`t know password for su
[11:04] <Jerusalem420> anyone have any ideas about my above question?
[11:04] <Werdna> _2: worth a try :)
[11:04] <HtheB> ama nasil degistirecegim bunu? :(
[11:04] <faileas> go_beep_yourself: hmm i'll need to install it to see ;)
[11:04] <_2> FicaBlok38 you'll have to boot to recovery mode.     there is no password for root
[11:04] <fenerli7> ﻿HtheB: bilmiyorum, bende ayni problem var
[11:04] <go_beep_yourself> faileas-> good luck
[11:05] <HtheB> ana
[11:05] <HtheB> oldu
[11:05] <HtheB> :D
[11:05] <HtheB> hahahaha
[11:05] <_2> FicaBlok38 don't froget the command >>>   chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers
[11:05] <FloodBot3> HtheB: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:05] <FicaBlok38> _2: yes i was tried that
[11:05] <FicaBlok38> same problem with sudo
[11:05] <HtheB> Emerald a gir, Emerald ayarlarina gir
[11:05] <_2> FicaBlok38 did you edit sudoers ?
[11:05] <HtheB> orda yaziyor cift tiklayinca :P
[11:05] <HtheB> ne yapsin diye onu degistir
[11:05] <carandraug> !english | HtheB
[11:06] <FicaBlok38> _2 yes i do
[11:06] <_2> FicaBlok38 did you use visudo to edit it ?
[11:06] <HtheB> srt xD
[11:06] <fenerli7> ﻿ubottu: shut up :p
[11:06] <HtheB> sry* xD
[11:06] <FicaBlok38> _2: no
[11:06] <FicaBlok38> i use gedit :)
[11:06] <_2> FicaBlok38 so boot to recovery mode   and edit it with visudo
[11:06] <mib_88cqzp94> _2 sorry, was going for awhile
[11:06] <HtheB> Trabzonspor <3
[11:06] <FicaBlok38> i am very new in this world
[11:06] <HtheB> :P
[11:06] <FicaBlok38> :)
[11:07] <carandraug> FicaBlok38: next time enter "visudo" in the terminal to edit that file. You'll need some basics of vim to do it
[11:07] <_2> mib_88cqzp94 not a problem.
[11:07] <fenerli7> ﻿﻿HtheB: grr...
[11:07] <HtheB> xD
[11:07] <HtheB> #1!
[11:07] <_2> carandraug what ubuntu system has vim as it visudo editor ?
[11:07] <HtheB> we have to play vs Galatsaray soon :p
[11:07] <fenerli7> ﻿﻿HtheB: thanks for that, double click now maximises :)
[11:08] <HtheB> hehe :D you're welcome xD
[11:08] <mib_88cqzp94> _2, why is expanding / or file system is dangerous?
[11:08] <carandraug> _2: it's vi
[11:08] <_2> carandraug it should just use the default "edit" command.    no?
[11:08] <Jerusalem420> so no one has any idea about my problem w/ a bad line being written into /etc/resolv.conf ?
[11:09] <_2> carandraug visudo opens mc -e /etc/sudoers   for me....
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[11:09] <xjohnthomasx> hey people in /etc/network/interfaces... can anyone tell me if mine looks normal?? and also why there are two identical lines iface.. eth0.. inet static??
[11:09] <FicaBlok38> _2: i click right click on sudoers and i change permissions
[11:09] <mib_88cqzp94> ActionParsnip yay yay yay :D
[11:10] <FicaBlok38> i am stupid
[11:10] <FicaBlok38> aaa
[11:10] <_2> mib_88cqzp94 any time you change the structure of a file system you are taking a chance that you may wreck the fs.
[11:10] <FicaBlok38> :)
[11:10] <HtheB> miauw
[11:10] <HtheB> :P
[11:10] <mib_88cqzp94> _2 hmm..  but in windows I can defrag the drive first if I wanna expand/shrink it, then it'll minimize the risk. But I dunno in linux..
[11:10] <JesseL627> I am in need of some graphic work for an upcoming business of mine. I will be paying per image, the price will range from $10-$100 depending on the actual work. Anyone interested? PM me.
[11:10] <_2> FicaBlok38 you have a root filemanager (nautilus)   running ?
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> !ot | JesseL627
[11:11] <_2> mib_88cqzp94 minimized risk   !=  no risk.
[11:11] <FicaBlok38> _2: then i run nautilus
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> mib_88cqzp94: yu should have a backup anyroad
[11:11] <FicaBlok38> as a root
[11:12] <mib_88cqzp94> _2 yes it is... but... still somehow calm my heart, at least :p
[11:12] <FicaBlok38> now i cant
[11:12] <_2> mib_88cqzp94 heh  ok  :)
[11:12] <mib_88cqzp94> ActionParsnip, here's another one I'd like to ask.. how to make a backup of Filesystems...?
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> FicaBlok38: gksudo nautilus
[11:12] <_2> ActionParsnip broken sudoers
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> mib_88cqzp94: i have a cron'd cp command to copy my home folder to usb
[11:13] <xjohnthomasx> anyone know if my /etc/network/interfaces file is correct?? someone check??? http://pastebin.com/m553f2997
[11:13] <carandraug> _2: I never did it on Ubuntu, only in my Archlinux. Looked like vi to me
[11:13] <mib_88cqzp94> but my home folder is on another partition, it'll be safe.. what worries me is the Filesystem
[11:13] <_2> carandraug it probably was there.   but should not be in ubuntu
[11:13] <mib_88cqzp94> ActionParsnip (hope I does make some sense)
[11:14] <_2> carandraug nano maybe  ;/
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> xjohnthomasx: no, change line 5 to 'auto eth0' (without the 's)
[11:14] <EvilTchnlgy_> actionparsnip: didn't you just go to bed a few hours ago?!
[11:14] <FicaBlok38> ActionParsnip: that not work
[11:14] <carandraug> _2: there's not even mc in my Ubuntu. I tried that command now and it says no mc. And I never heard of it
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> xjohnthomasx: if you are using static ip for eth0, you need to specify its ip address
[11:14] <_2> carandraug cause you didn't install it.   it's in the repos tho
[11:15] <FicaBlok38> ActionParsnip: maybe becouse i use kde
[11:15] <_2> !info mc > carandraug
[11:15] <FicaBlok38> i dont know
[11:15] <xjohnthomasx> ActionParsnip: what do you mean line 5 without s? i dont see this line
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> FicaBlok38: kdesu nautilus
[11:15] <mib_88cqzp94> is it possible to reinstall your linux with the configuration you have before?
[11:15] <xjohnthomasx> ActionParsnip: if i'm using wireless and no eth0 at all, can i comment out those two eth0 lines, and just keep the first three?
[11:15] <_2> ActionParsnip FicaBlok38 has a broken sudoers.
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> xjohnthomasx: you have 2 lines with  iface eth0 inet static on
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> xjohnthomasx: if its not used then simply comment those lines out
[11:16] <idefix> it is possible to use Java without knowing the smallest imaginable detail of it, is it?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> idefix: do you mean the web browser plugin?
[11:16] <idefix> yes
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> !java | idefix
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> idefix: i personally used iced-tea on my 64bit rig
[11:17] <idefix> ActionParsnip: I was ordered to download a zip file when installing it through the spm
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> idefix: the guide should help
[11:18] <carandraug> _2: I've read the man pages of visudo. Seems you can configure what editor it opens. But vi is ok for me. I understand it's probably too much for a begginer... but a begginer shouldn't need to edit it
[11:18] <FicaBlok38> i screw up permission
[11:18] <FicaBlok38> s
[11:18] <idefix> but the zip file seems some downloaded html-info-fairy tail
[11:18] <spidla> hi there, does anybody have working hibernation (suspend2disk) with ATI(fglrx driver), compiz, Ubuntu Hardy ?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> spidla: suspend is a pain and really not worth the pain and hair pulling
[11:19] <Ravi> help me
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> !ati | spidla
[11:19] <_2> carandraug hehe  lets not start the secure root password over default sudoers debate in here,  we'll both get banned.
[11:19] <Ravi> about configuration
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> !ask | Ravi
[11:20] <Ravi> server for network
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Ravi: what about them?
[11:20] <ikonia> Ravi: just ask your question explaining the problem clearly
[11:20] <spidla> ActionParsnip : yeah I know that suspend is a longway run a but it would be very useful for me
[11:21] <Ravi> config for samba
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> spidla: if you use it it takes longer to boot than a cold boot. imho its a complete waste of time
[11:21] <Ravi> config for samba
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> !samba | ravi
[11:21] <ikonia> Ravi how do you want to use samba
[11:21] <mib_88cqzp94> actionparsnip: really? is suspend longer than cold boot? how about hibernate?
[11:21] <Ravi> configuration samba for server data
[11:22] <ikonia> Ravi you want to use samba as a server or a client ?
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> mib_88cqzp94: not played or heard anyone speak of how that performs
[11:22] <mib_88cqzp94> actionparsnip: hmm...
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> spidla: for compiz head over to #compiz
[11:22] <Ravi> server for client
[11:22] <spidla> ActionParsnip: okey then .. thanks I will try
[11:23] <mib_88cqzp94> actionparsnip: all I know is if I suspend my ubuntu for days it'll start "beep"ing when I wake it up, firstly slow beep and then after suspended again, it'll get angrier by longer beep... lol
[11:23] <idefix> I did NOT interrupt anything!! yet: E: sun-java5-doc: subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Interrupt)
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> mib_88cqzp94: hibernate and all that stuff usually makes things break as they dont wake up when systems come out of hibernate
[11:23] <ikonia> Ravi ok the document that ubottu sent you will explain that, read that and if you have specific questions we'll be happy to help
[11:23] <ikonia> !samba > Ravi
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> mib_88cqzp94: ive never bothered with it, its a waste of time
[11:23] <spidla> actually my problem was ... when I came from hibernate my window titlebars get messed
[11:23] <Ravi> ok
[11:24] <Ravi> thnak you ikonia
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> spidla: you could restart x
[11:24] <mib_88cqzp94> actionparsnip: yeah, sometimes the system wouldnt wake up and I'll be forced to press the power button and counting to four... to kill my notebook. *cries*
[11:25] <bpr> which package contains the AC_SUBST autoconf macro?
[11:25] <spidla> ActionParsnip : yes that is the solution .. but resumeing from hibernation + restarting X + logging into GDM takes as much time as cold boot
[11:25] <mib_88cqzp94> actionparsnip: but it isn't a waste of time, if I'm sleepy but there's so many window opened and I wanna continue working when I get up, suspend/hibernate always comes handy...
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> spidla: exactly
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> mib_88cqzp94: look in recent documents
[11:25] <_2> mib_88cqzp94 better than my lappy that "came with vesta on it"  to kill vesta i had to remove the battery!  o.O
[11:25] <mib_88cqzp94> spidla: how to restart x?
[11:26] <ogzy> i want to enable switches options and recording options enable by default at kmix to make easier recirdng, hw can i do it?
[11:26] <mib_88cqzp94> actionparsnip: what recent documents? *confused*
[11:26] <spidla> mib: logout for example
[11:26] <idefix> why is there a same command for copying and breaking (Ctrl-C)?
[11:26] <mib_88cqzp94> _2 ooh, you're so mean! LOL
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> mib_88cqzp94: theres a recent documentlist someplace i think (is in kde)
[11:26] <ikonia> idefix: copying is done by highlighting with the mouse
[11:26] <ikonia> idefix: it's that simple
[11:26] <idefix> no more Ctrl-C in linux
[11:26] <ikonia> idefix: no
[11:26] <mib_88cqzp94> actionparsnip, ooh that's what u mean...
[11:26] <_2> mib_88cqzp94 it's ok though.  i havent see vesta sense  :)))
[11:27] <idefix> ikonia: what if you can't break the force of habit?
[11:27] <mib_88cqzp94> actionparsnip, but it takes lotsa times too :p
[11:27] <ikonia> idefix thats your issue
[11:27] <mib_88cqzp94> _2 I dunno that vista is immune to *killing*... :D
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> mib_88cqzp94: it means your system won't beep like crazy and you can get back to where you were
[11:27] <idefix> ikonia: I wanted to copy something during the installation and aborted something, I hope it's not critical
[11:28] <ikonia> idefix depends what you did
[11:28] <mib_88cqzp94> actionparsnip: ....okay, made sense. coz I don't want my notebook got hurt...
[11:28] <mib_88cqzp94> actionparsnip, gnome has Recent Documents too
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> mib_88cqzp94: thats what id use, and your terminal's history is stored too
[11:29] <_2> well i guess i'll wonder off into the sun set...    shalom!
[11:29] <idefix> ikonia: http://pastebin.ca/1225770
[11:29] <mib_88cqzp94> Does anybody know if I can make the Recent Documents grow bigger? eg. could contain more than 10 files?
[11:29]  * delcoyote hi
[11:29] <ikonia> idefix doesn't seem serious
[11:30] <idefix> where can I download the file "/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders/svg_loader.so"? (the name is too general to do a regular google) (it is for JAVA..)
[11:31] <ikonia> idefix gtk is not for java
[11:31] <ikonia> idefix thats a gtk library
[11:31] <mib_88cqzp94> _2, thank you so much :)
[11:31] <idefix> ikonia: yet I get the error when wanting to install some JAVA component
[11:31] <mib_88cqzp94> guys,, does anybody know if I can make the Recent Documents grow bigger? eg. could contain more than 10 files?
[11:31] <ikonia> idefix the application may require it if it is gui based
[11:31] <idefix> ikonia: always, java5 java6 demo everything
[11:32] <idefix> so, where do I get the file?
[11:32] <jason__> anybody know the site http://desktopondemand.com, a virtual linux system with graphical client? i tried it once some months ago, but since then it was offline. do i need a different access url?
[11:32] <ikonia> idefix what is the name of the ubuntu package your trying to install ?
[11:32] <idefix> ikonia: if I just google it will I get a good file? the name is: sun-java6-demo
[11:33] <crdlb> idefix: no, this is not windows :)
[11:33] <ikonia> idefix: google what ?
[11:33] <idefix> for the file to download somehwere
[11:33] <ikonia> idefix NEVER do that
[11:33] <idefix> ok
[11:33] <ikonia> idefix what command are you using to install your java app
[11:33] <crdlb> idefix: it sounds like the package you're trying to use is for an old version of ubuntu
[11:33] <idefix> I did with the one zip file jdk-1_5_0-doc.zip :S
[11:34] <idefix> ikonia: I use synaptic packet manager
[11:34] <ikonia> idefix the jdk is in the ubuntu repo's you don't need to use the zip file
[11:34] <idefix> crdlb I just upgraded to hardy
[11:34] <idefix> ikonia, always when trying to install from the repo I get the message I need that file and it needs to be in my /tmp dir and owned by the root
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> idefix: then delete it and retry
[11:35] <idefix> I'll get the same message!
[11:35] <idefix> it said I could delete it btw
[11:35] <idefix> after I put it there and continued to installation from synaptic
[11:35] <idefix> I'll delete
[11:35] <ikonia> idefix I think your mistaken ubuntu doesn't not want that lib in /tmp
[11:36] <idefix> I get this error too :( Details: Unable to load image-loading module: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders/svg_loader.so: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders/svg_loader.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:36] <idefix> and the message that a firefox.png icon cannot be found on my PC
[11:37] <idefix> why is my ubuntu mistaken? what do you mean with that?
[11:37] <mib_88cqzp94> guys, I'm gonna leave. Thanks a lot for your help! it's been fun for my first time sitting here :)
[11:37] <ikonia> idefix I think you getting very confused as java does not care about your firefox icon
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> idefix: sounds like you got a lot ahead of you
[11:37] <idefix> I use Seamonkey
[11:37] <ikonia> idefix I think you getting very confused as java does not care about your firefox icon
[11:37] <idefix> ok
[11:38] <Ademan> i googled xgamma and noticed that it was in feisty, but i don't see it now... wtf?
[11:38] <idefix> anyway, I think if I get that one svg_loader.so file in the right place and I know delete the zip file and install all java6 from synaptic it ought to work
[11:38] <idefix> now not know *
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> !info xgamma
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> !xgamma
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> !find gamma
[11:38] <ikonia> idefix do not get the .so file form outside the ubuntu repo
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> !info kgamma
[11:39] <Ademan> thanks ActionParsnip... unfortunate xgamma is gone though...
[11:39] <idefix> ikonia where then? it doesn't load automatically from the synaptic install :(
[11:39] <idefix> I get an error
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> Ademan: its in kde though
[11:40] <crdlb> idefix: did you install gtk+ manually from source or something like that?
[11:40] <idefix> crdlb no
[11:40] <Next> Hello
[11:40] <idefix> crdlb I tried installing JAVA manually a couple of times
[11:40] <crdlb> idefix: hardy has gtk+ 2.12, so it would not ever look in /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0 (it uses /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0 now)
[11:41] <idefix> you are sincerely trying to help me, aren't you?
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> !icedtea
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> !iced-tea
[11:41] <ikonia> idefix what version did you start on, and what version did you upgrade to (ubuntu)
[11:41] <idefix> so gtk+ is installed standard in hardy
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> !java
[11:41] <idefix> from dapper to hardy
[11:42] <ikonia> ok, I think I've found it
[11:42] <ikonia> there is a bug logged from dapper to edgy thats a python script failing so it doesn't upgrade gtk
[11:42] <ikonia> idefix: I assume you've had the same issue going from 6.06 to 8.04
[11:43] <captainc> is there a way I can edit the applications menu using nautilus?
[11:43] <captainc> the edit menus dialog is terrible
[11:43] <ikonia> idefix: please put ls -la /usr/lib/gtk* into a pastebin please.
[11:43] <ljsoftnet> if ubuntu is open source, how can i edit the source code?
[11:43] <idefix> before, in Dapper, I didn't have the repos universe and multiverse checked so there was no java in the list and I tried it from this site: http://java.com/en/download/index.jsp?application/x-java-applet;version=1.6
[11:44] <ikonia> idefix forget java
[11:44] <ikonia> idefix deal with one issue at a time
[11:45] <idefix> ikonia: gtk*: http://pastebin.ca/1225780
[11:45] <ikonia> idefix ok, so the problem is that gtk has not been updated on your system
[11:45] <ikonia> idefix show me lsb_release -a
[11:46] <idefix> ikonia: http://pastebin.ca/1225781
[11:46] <crdlb> ikonia: how does that show that gtk hasn't been upgraded?
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> ljsoftnet: you can download the source of any package from its website or from the repos
[11:46] <ikonia> crdlb 2.0 not 2.2
[11:46] <crdlb> 2.10 is the new version
[11:46] <ikonia> ahhh
[11:46] <ikonia> well spotted
[11:46] <ikonia> I was looking at the directory name
[11:46] <crdlb> ikonia: the directory is only changed when gtk+ breaks the API/ABI of those modules, which they only did for 2.4 and 2.10 (recently)
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> idefix: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get distupgrade
[11:47] <ikonia> idefix: so use apt-get to instal the java package, and paste the output into the pastebin
[11:47] <hosstest> Two questions, 1.)  I have Ventrilo (wine app) installed and a launcher on my desktop; how can I find out where it is getting its icon from?  2.)  Can I move the location of my awn bar, and if so how?
[11:47] <ikonia> crdlb my mistake, well spotted
[11:47] <idefix> ActionParsnip, I think I did what you typed last night
[11:48] <idefix> ikonia, how will that work now, since I didn't fix this gtk+ issue?
[11:48] <ikonia> idefix it will show us the error your seeing clearly
[11:50] <ljsoftnet> ActionParsnip, what IDE should i use?
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> ljsoftnet: i dont code
[11:50] <ljsoftnet> ActionParsnip, ah ok thanks
[11:51] <idefix> ActionParsnip, if I did all in the Update Manager, didn't I do the three sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get distupgrade commands?
[11:51] <ikonia> idefix: so use apt-get to instal the java package, and paste the output into the pastebin
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> idefix: no idea dude, its worth a shot
[11:53] <idefix> 13/24 of the entries of a sun-java search query in synaptic are already green
[11:55] <ikonia> idefix: so use apt-get to instal the java package, and paste the output into the pastebin
[11:55] <hosstest> Two questions, 1.)  I have Ventrilo (wine app) installed and a launcher on my desktop; how can I find out where it is getting its icon from?  2.)  Can I move the location of my awn bar, and if so how?
[11:55] <idefix> ikonia, which one? there are many..
[11:55] <ikonia> idefix which what ?
[11:55] <idefix> bin, demo, doc, fonts, javadb, jdk, jre, plugin and source
[11:55] <tommyd> Hi all! Quick question: for rpm-based distributions there is the -qi command flag to query information about an installed package, what is the equivalent for dpkg? I'm especially interested in the install date here
[11:55] <idefix> ikonia of the list in synaptic
[11:55] <ikonia> idefix which every one you want
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> hosstest: cd ~/.wine; find -name *.ico
[11:55] <idefix> some are already installed though
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> hosstest: it may be part of an exe in which case you will have to grep
[11:56] <hosstest> ActionParsnip:  Can Awn use .ico files?
[11:56] <ikonia> idefix so they obviously have no problem
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> hosstest: and search for eve
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> hosstest: im answering question 1
[11:56] <idefix> ikonia: typing the command at a terminal doesn't work though
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> hosstest: i have no idea about awm
[11:57] <idefix> but that's probably 'cause it's only supposed to work in a browser
[11:57] <ikonia> idefix I thought you where having problems installing the package you wanted
[11:57] <idefix> yes, I get that one error message but the square is green in synaptic
[11:57] <idefix> the squares *
[11:58] <idefix> are
[11:58] <ikonia> idefix so there is no problem then
[11:58] <hosstest> ActionParsnip:  Thanks for attempting to answer question 1, howerver my initial question was to find out where a launcher is getting its icon from, if it is currently using the icon.  This could apply to any number of current launcher already present.
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> hosstest: if its specific to that app it will be in ~/.wine but if its using an ubuntu icon it'll be in /usr/share/pixmaps
[12:00] <idefix> ikonia: when on a website that requires java I get the message "This page contains information of a type (application/x-java-applet;version= 1.6) that can only be viewed with the appropriate Plug-in.
[12:00] <hosstest> ActionParsnip:  Thanks.  Is the /usr/share/icon folder reserved for system icons?
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> hosstest: its where some icons are, you can copy any others you want there with sudo cp
[12:01] <idefix> ikonia? lunch-break?
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> idefix: i use icedtea-gcjwebplugin  icedtea-java7-jdk  icedtea-java7-jre icedtea-java7-plugin
[12:02] <hosstest> ActionParsnip:  I think it is kinda lame that you cant place a launcher on the desktop and have no way of finding out where it is getting its icon from.  Right clicking offers no help under Properties.
[12:02] <crdlb> hosstest: /usr/share/icons/ is the system part of the icon themes system. for any directory there, you can create ~/.icons/THEMENAME/ and puts icons there
[12:03] <hosstest> *can place
[12:03] <crdlb> most launchers just specify an icon name, which is looked up in your icon theme (with fallbacks if it doesn't exist)
[12:04] <lesenscommun> hi
[12:04] <hosstest> crdlb:  Word
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> hosstest: i dont use launchers myself so i dont have that problem :)
[12:04] <lesenscommun> I have a problem, when i try to mount my second hd, all my system froze
[12:05] <Bug2000> Hello. I got icons [.cur,.icon,.ani] that I've used to use on Windows to get my cursor. How do I do that on Linux?
[12:05] <lesenscommun> but e2fsck says that my disk is ok
[12:05] <hosstest> ActionParsnip:  The wife likes icons, what can I say.
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> hosstest: makes sense
[12:05] <HSNews> how to kill programm?
[12:05] <HSNews> ps aux | grep programmname - can't kill by 'kill' No such process
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> HSNews: killall <program name>
[12:06] <lesenscommun> HSNews: sudo killall <program>
[12:06] <lesenscommun> or  kill -9 <pid>
[12:06] <Bug2000> HSNews: You kill with the proccess id. If you want with the name just do "killall gnome"
[12:06] <HSNews> thanks
[12:07] <Trashlord> is there a command to return my username on Ubuntu?
[12:07] <lesenscommun> whoami
[12:07] <SlimeyPete> Trashlord: whoami
[12:07] <Trashlord> ah, nice
[12:07] <Trashlord> thank you
[12:08] <prodigel> hi all. ubuntu+1 doesn't answer, but this is quite general question. can I downgrade my ubuntu8.10 installation? It broke my wireless connection, and I have no time for debugging or other stuff.
[12:08] <Bug2000> Any ideas about getting the ico/ani/cur to work on my Linux?
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> Bug2000: you could probably go to mouse settings and see if theres something smart in there
[12:09] <Bug2000> ActionParsnip: don't like smart things. Harder to do them on other distrobutions.
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> Bug2000: depends on experience, i find mandriva easier personally but ive been running it since it was mandrake 7
[12:11] <g33k_gir1> i am having major USB mouse issues in ubuntu (well, kubuntu, actually, but I'm sure its not a kde issue, hence I'm in this channel). how do I go about troubleshooting a usb mouse? where do I even begin to narrow down what the issue might be?
[12:11] <Bug2000> ActionParsnip: Well, I love my Archlinux. But I just want know how to do it in general. So I can create an icon pack as well and move it around.
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> g33k_gir1: lsusb to check its detected
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> g33k_gir1: run live environment to see if it runs
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> g33k_gir1: try plugging it into another usb port and reboot
[12:13] <Kartagis> i have only one language under System > Preferences > Language Support. why is that?
[12:13] <natalisushka> hi, I have a PC-switch cable connected directly to two laptops running ubuntu. how do I configure a direct network that I may access both?
[12:14] <ikonia> Kartagis: installed other langue packs ?
[12:14] <ikonia> natalisushka: assign an ip / netmask on the same network to both
[12:14] <ikonia> natalisushka: make sure it's a cross-over cable
[12:14] <Kartagis> ikonia, no, i thought that was done automatically since it was done so on my laptop
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> natalisushka: make sure the ips are in the same netmask (e.g. 10.0.0.1 and 10.0.0.2)
[12:15] <ikonia> Kartagis don't think so
[12:15] <natalisushka> ikonia, it's not a cross-over
[12:15] <ikonia> natalisushka can't do it then
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> natalisushka: patch cables connect to routers / switches etc
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> natalisushka: you need a crossover cable
[12:16] <natalisushka> ActionParsnip, how do I distinguish a cross-over cable from a simple PC-switch cable?
[12:16] <faileas> there's no way to
[12:16] <alphad> hey guys, any way to disable the notebook keyboard on ubuntu as im planning to use a usb keyboard instead?
[12:17] <ikonia> natalisushka pin 1 at one end is wired to pin 8 at the other end
[12:17] <ikonia> natalisushka: back to front basiclly
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> natalisushka: i'd look at the heads with them both with the levev down, if they look the same its patch
[12:17] <HtheB> hi all
[12:17] <faileas> ikonia: thats not obvious just by looking at it i'd think ;p
[12:17] <ikonia> faileas: no it can't be, depends if the cables are colour coded
[12:17] <HtheB> does anyone know why my Laptop is going to "stand by" when I pressed my "Windows" key (Superkey)
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> alphad: just dont press on it is all i can suggest. I have no idea
[12:17] <HtheB> how can I change this :(
[12:18] <ikonia> HtheB: not assigned it to anything using compiz have you ?
[12:18] <HtheB> I guess I did
[12:18] <faileas> also with some newer lan adaptors you may have it taken care of automatically
[12:18] <HtheB> but I dont know where to find it anymore:(
[12:18] <ikonia> HtheB open ccsm
[12:18] <HtheB> yes
[12:18] <natalisushka> ikonia, ActionParsnip ! Sorry, I didn't get how is that! what is pin 1 and 8? I am not familiar with these words
[12:18] <alphad> ActionP: one of my keys are shortcircuited and it keeps repeating a key whenever im doing any work..
[12:19] <ikonia> natalisushka you've not got the right cable so it doesn't ,atter
[12:19] <faileas> go_beep_yourself: i ended up going for g4l. its a livecd, but i can get it to do mostly what i want
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: if its wired to the proper standard you need to swap 2 of the cables on one side of the link, tx1 -> rx2 and rx1 to tx2
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> alphad: id imagine it'd be inbios
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> *in bios
[12:19] <ikonia> ActionParsnip pretty much it
[12:19] <natalisushka> ikonia, Yes, but it will matter when I go to buy or find one somewhere!
[12:19] <HtheB> ikonia, what next?
[12:19] <ikonia> natalisushka ask for a cross over cable
[12:20] <alphad> checked that mate.. but will check again.. thx
[12:20] <ikonia> HtheB: there is a section somewhere in there for shotcut keys
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> natalisushka: if you have a wireless router you can have one wired with the cable you have then access it over wifi
[12:21] <rk> macanudo
[12:22] <rollerx> hello!
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> !hi | rollerx
[12:22] <ikonia> rk: can we help
[12:22] <rollerx> que cliente usan para IRC?
[12:22] <HtheB> ikonia,
[12:22] <ikonia> HtheB yes,
[12:22] <HtheB> it's: Super L
[12:22] <faileas> ... what language is that >_>
[12:23] <faileas> !es
[12:23] <HtheB> (screen lock)
[12:23] <ikonia> faileas couldn't figure it, hence why I've not given a factoid
[12:23] <faileas> it looked like french for a moment, but i can read french ;p
[12:23] <natalisushka> ActionParsnip, well .. before I could access one laptop by another using a wireless connection, transferring files of 18GB seemed to last forever with speed 500kb/sec ! So again, what must I exactly do with the patch to help me fasten this connection using wifi at the same time?
[12:23] <ikonia> HtheB: there you go then
[12:23] <HtheB> but, when I only press the Super button, it already locks it :P
[12:23] <rollerx> mmm
[12:23] <ikonia> HtheB can't exaplin that
[12:23] <ikonia> explain
[12:23] <rollerx> ok
[12:23] <HtheB> hmm
[12:23] <HtheB> it didnt do this before though..
[12:23] <faileas> rollerx: if you can ask in english maybe someone can help you
[12:24] <rollerx> faileas: yes of course!
[12:24] <HtheB> n00b here....
[12:24] <HtheB> xD
[12:24]  * HtheB == n00b
[12:24] <rollerx> what kind of IRC Client do you use?
[12:25] <HtheB> ikonia, OH!
[12:25] <alpsy> anyone here with a logitech g15 keyboard who got the lcd (and macro keys) working?
[12:25] <HtheB> when I press the "super" button, it says SUPER L
[12:26] <HtheB> But it means the LEFT super button >_<"
[12:26] <HtheB> lol, I always tried SUPER + L
[12:26] <HtheB> isn't there a way to use the SUPER + L?
[12:27] <toresn> rollerx: irssi
[12:27] <Kartagis> when i right click on a directory and share it that way, is this written to any file?
[12:27] <wendico> hello, is there a way to issue a comand (gcom -d /dev/noz0) automaticly when inserting my pcmcia 3g modem?
[12:27] <alpsy> sheesh that's really the only thing that I don't like about linux.. it is incredibly difficult to get the hardware working like you want it to work =/
[12:27] <HtheB> xChat
[12:27] <bruger> Hello Channel... I've just reinstalled the system, an upgrade from edgy to hardy. Now I want to recreate the users that already have existing home dirs. Do I just run useradd --home [existing_dir]?
[12:28] <natalisushka> ActionParsnip, well .. before I could access one laptop by another using a wireless connection, transferring files of 18GB seemed to last forever with speed 500kb/sec ! So again, what must I exactly do with the patch to help me fasten this connection using wifi at the same time?
[12:28] <rollerx> toresn: I actually use mIRC... but it's a mess
[12:28] <go_beep_yourself> Brucee-> yes, im reading the man page and it says the directory can already exist
[12:29] <MaMoRu_he> help pls i cant browse anywhere. it saying "Connection Interupted"
[12:29] <HtheB> Is there a way to use "SUPER + L" as a shortkey?
[12:29] <wendico> how do u call windows key in ubuntu?
[12:29] <HtheB> Super
[12:29] <ikonia> "super" key
[12:29] <HtheB> Super key
[12:30] <wendico> tx
[12:30] <HtheB> so ikonia
[12:30] <HtheB> there is no way to use Super + L
[12:30] <HtheB> ?
[12:30] <ikonia> HtheB yes ?
[12:30] <ikonia> HtheB> there is no way to use Super + L
[12:30] <ikonia> oops
[12:30] <ikonia> HtheB super + l is the default for lockign the workstation
[12:30] <HtheB> huh?
[12:30] <HtheB> not over here... :(
[12:30] <HtheB> (thats what I want.. locking a workstation)
[12:31] <ikonia> HtheB: then you've done something to change it, set it
[12:31] <MaMoRu_he> guys any idea to fix this mozilla? i cant browse at all saying "Connection Interupted"
[12:31] <ikonia> MaMoRu_he sounds like a network drop
[12:31] <MaMoRu_he> ikonia: i can use pidgin but not mozilla
[12:31] <MaMoRu_he> ikonia: same like using opera
[12:32] <ikonia> MaMoRu_he you can't use opera either ?
[12:32] <MaMoRu_he> ikonia: : nope
[12:32] <ikonia> MaMoRu_he: so that sounds like either your in offline mode, using a proxy or port 80 is being blocked
[12:32] <alpsy> okay so has anyone here got the lcd (and macro keys) working on a logitech g15 keyboard ?
[12:32] <wendico> hello, need to automate as much as posible an internet conection throught a 3g card for my company users to connect in a easy manner. Any expert may help me plz?
[12:33] <MaMoRu_he> ikonia: im kinda new here using ubuntu for about 2 months and this problem just show up
[12:33] <ikonia> wendico do you wnat to use pppd
[12:33] <Kartagis> when i right click on a directory and share it that way, does this get written to any file?
[12:33] <ikonia> Kartagis I don't believe so
[12:33] <wendico> ikonia: yes, i installed gnome ppp and it work great
[12:33] <ikonia> Kartagis: but I could be wrong on that, I never use that method
[12:34] <ikonia> wendico so isi t not just a case of setting up the pppd.conf file and then if-up the card when it's plugged in
[12:34] <domy> ciao
[12:34] <ikonia> domy: hello
[12:34] <domy> hello
[12:35] <wendico> ikonia: my problem resides at modem initialization, i have to use a command that requieres root permissions when inserting the 3g card (gcom -d /dev/noz0). is there a way to automate this step?
[12:35] <juro> hi, I had a power cut yesterday and since I restarted my system, the top right time/username/system area is totally off: http://imagebin.ca/view/x2tkMh.html
[12:35] <ikonia> wendico make a user, give it sudo access without password then change teh udev rul to trigger that script
[12:35] <Plz> If I save my documents in .odf, can Microsoft Office users open it?
[12:37] <wendico> ikonia, may u give a me a man link to accomplish triggerint the script at dev init? im very nerd with ubuntu
[12:37] <Olof_szary> Plz: i think not
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Plz: nope, save in rtf or doc (word 97)
[12:38] <Plz> what should I save my files in then?
[12:38] <Olof_szary> it is better to write in .rtf or .doc file
[12:38] <Plz> not rtf. lol
[12:38] <ikonia> wendico basically, create a new user say "modem-admin" grantt hat user sudo access without a password to the command you want to do, change the udev rule for that device to execute the script/commands you want - then plug it in, thats it
[12:38] <Plz> rtf does not support anything.
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> Plz: whats up with rtf?
[12:38] <paul68> I have the following setup internet<->ISPmodem<-> router with wifi(static IP)<->server with dchp and dns now I want to change it into modem <-> server<-> router  and if possible on other subnet what do I need to adapt in my config files to make this work?
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> Plz: it has fonts and alignments
[12:39] <wendico> ikonia, tx very much, im gonna try right know, ill post my findings in a while.
[12:39] <HtheB> ikonia,
[12:39] <HtheB> I saw somewhere that the default lock = CTRL ALT L :)
[12:39] <airtonix> Plz, have you not used wordpad on windows?
[12:39] <HtheB> and not Super L
[12:39] <Plz> Guess I`ll save them as html, since both OOo and Microsoft Office can open it.
[12:39] <Plz> airtonix: I have, but it sucks asses.
[12:39] <ikonia> HtheB it can be
[12:39] <Plz> I was thinking of a format to use all the time.
[12:39] <airtonix> Plz,  office can open rtf
[12:40] <Plz> well, rtf is not good...
[12:40] <amanulla> hii
[12:40] <alpsy> has anyone here got the lcd (and macro keys) working on a logitech g15 keyboard ?
[12:40] <airtonix> Plz, thats your opinion
[12:40] <Plz> Let`s all use DOS.
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Plz: html is a good choice, sucks how m$ still uses proprietary formats eh
[12:40] <Plz> just like rtf.
[12:40] <HtheB> ikonia :D check this:
[12:40] <HtheB> There are really normally two bugs involved. The first bug is that Gnome doesn't think the Win key is a modifier, so it registers as Super_L (meaning the Left Super Key as a standalone) whenever you try to bind a shortcut using that key. This can be fixed through System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layout Options -> Alt/Win Key Behavior. Choose the option labeled "Super is mapped to the Win-keys (default)"
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Plz: if all you have is text, rtf is great
[12:41] <airtonix> ActionParsnip, plz yeah watch how word will rape your html files once you open them. :)
[12:41] <Plz> I have pictures aswell
[12:41] <Plz> and rtf does not support any pictures.
[12:41] <paul68> I have the following setup internet<->ISPmodem<-> router with wifi(static IP)<->server with dchp and dns now I want to change it into modem <-> server<-> router  and if possible on other subnet what do I need to adapt in my config files to make this work?
[12:41] <airtonix> Plz, actually it does
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> airtonix: i dont use it, its not worth the money
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Plz: i never saw you say you had images
[12:41] <Plz> What do you guys suggest I should use then instead of odf and rtf?
[12:42] <airtonix> Plz, well that leaves you with doc
[12:42] <Olof_szary> Plz: ooffice could save as .doc
[12:42] <Olof_szary> Of .pdf, but U won't edit it
[12:42] <Plz> but .doc is not opensource.
[12:42] <Olof_szary> or*
[12:42] <milligan_> anyone here familiar with backuppc, and how I can make it backup only certain directories ?
[12:42] <airtonix> Plz, but abiword does a better job with word format than openoffice does
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> Olof_szary: its not a very good implementation for some things
[12:43] <Plz> airtonix: thanks for the tip, but I rather use OOo.
[12:43] <airtonix> surely there is a odf plugin for ms office?
[12:43] <Olof_szary> ActionParsnip: if i have to share documents with MSOffice users, I always save it as .doc and .pdf
[12:43] <dcabanis> Hey guys, I'm trying to get my KDE Apps integrate better with GNOME, how can I get the KDE Apps icons appear properly inside my GNOME menu ?
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> airtonix: ms wouldnt be so kind
[12:44] <paul68> BlueEagle: I did a nmap to the ip of my isp and only port 53 80 and 8080 where open
[12:44] <madsj> where's the cdrom-device located on a laptop ?
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> dcabanis: add them yourself
[12:44] <madsj> /dev/??
[12:44] <BlueEagle> paul68: port 80 should not be open, should it?
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> madsj: file /dev/cdrw
[12:44] <BlueEagle> paul68: That is a configuration in your linksys.
[12:44] <dcabanis> Somme seem to be there by default
[12:44] <airtonix> BlueEagle, lol yes it should...how else would you view their website?
[12:45] <paul68> BlueEagle: its the default gateway for webbrowsing
[12:45] <BlueEagle> paul68: Well that's from the inside->out.
[12:45] <BlueEagle> paul68: You were mapping what was open from the outside->in
[12:45] <wendico> hello, is there a Nerwork Manager UI software that can manage all in one LAN, WIFI, PPPD and L2TP connections?
[12:45] <amikrop> The "Create New Wireless Network" option of the Network Manager is badly broken.
[12:46] <BlueEagle> paul68: if port 80 redirects to port 8080 inside (NAT) then you don't need port 8080 open on the inside.
[12:46] <paul68> BlueEagle:  I did nmap -PO -O  ip isp
[12:46] <amikrop> When I choose it, and I set network name and encryption, it doesn't work.
[12:46] <airtonix> ActionParsnip, Plz : odf plugin for ms word : http://odf-converter.sourceforge.net/
[12:46] <Indoctrine> !utc
[12:46] <amikrop> It says connectio to "unknown"...
[12:46] <amikrop> * connectin
[12:46] <amikrop> * connecting
[12:46] <BlueEagle> paul68: I'm not very familiar with how nmap works. I just know what it's used for. :)
[12:46] <Plz> airtonix: well, I cannot force Microsoft Office users to install that plugin.
[12:47] <amikrop> And it displays a network icon every bar, empty.
[12:47] <amikrop> Is that a known issue?
[12:47] <madsj> ActionParsnip, I don't have that device/file
[12:47] <Plz> airtonix: I need to use something that everyone can use... the whole point with opensource?? eh?
[12:47] <airtonix> Plz, but i like how you are willing to do what they wont
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> madsj: do you have cdrw or cdrom
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> madsj: in /dev
[12:48] <Plz> In april 2009 Microsoft Office will support odf atleast :D
[12:48] <madsj> ActionParsnip, neither
[12:48] <manu_> ciao
[12:48] <manu_> quanta gente
[12:48] <Plz> lol.. http://farm1.static.flickr.com/66/193691309_2ae8b5dcc3_o.jpg | "Compatible with expensive, closed, memory-loving software. OpenOffice.org"
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> madsj: cat /etc/fstab should help then
[12:48] <Plz> Best ad. ever!
[12:48] <airtonix> Plz, what choice do you have if you wont use doc or rtf? ms word wont read anything else apart from html and then once they touch that it will go from being a 16k document to a 160k document
[12:49] <crimsonredmk> airtonix, there's a plugin to open odt files in Word
[12:49] <Paolo88> Hello
[12:49] <airtonix> crimsonredmk, funny that ... i just linked it
[12:49] <Plz> airtonix: Why does it increase that much when you edit it in Microsoft Office?
[12:50] <Paolo88> I will buy a quad core processor
[12:50] <BlueEagle> paul68: Good for you! :)
[12:50] <BlueEagle> paul68: happy tab-complete day. :)
[12:50] <Paolo88> For this processor is better ubuntu at 32 o 64 bit?
[12:50] <madsj> ActionParsnip, /dev/scd0 is not a block device, but is listed in /etc/fstabs
[12:50] <ikonia> Paolo88 depends what your doigna dna how much ram you ahve
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> Paolo88: depends on what its for
[12:51] <airtonix> Plz, if they make any changes (which is a most likley prospect because word will go ohnoes a non ms html file....must popup dialouge of fear) word will start filling it with all kinds of nonsense styling for-ever-single-paragraph....
[12:51] <paul68> BlueEagle: thanks
[12:51] <Paolo88> ikonia: i think buy 4 Bg of ramm too
[12:51] <madsj> I just got a laptop, so getting used to not having /dev/hd? is a bit weird
[12:51] <BlueEagle> Paolo88: If it's a 64-bit processor then, in general the 64-bit processor will be better. There may still be issues where some applications are not yet ported to 64-bit though.
[12:51] <paul68> I have the following setup internet<->ISPmodem<-> router with wifi(static IP)<->server with dchp and dns now I want to change it into modem <-> server<-> router  and if possible on other subnet what do I need to adapt in my config files to make this work?
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> madsj: that what it is
[12:51] <ikonia> Paolo88 well, you'll probably be beter with 64bit
[12:51] <airtonix> Plz, see for yourself...create a document in word using the html format and afterwards look at its source...things just like using frontpage
[12:52] <Paolo88> i must use normaly software and engineering softwer too
[12:52] <ikonia> Paolo88 as long as there is a 64bit port, you'll be fine
[12:52] <madsj> mount: special device /dev/scd0 does not exist
[12:52] <BlueEagle> Paolo88: I recomend you check the spesific software if it's ported to 64-bit before making your decision.
[12:52] <babo> if i copy files from one server to another server, will their permissions stay the same ?
[12:53] <ikonia> babo depends if you use -p
[12:53] <paul68> can someone help me reconfiguring a dhcp server
[12:53] <babo> ikonia: what's -p ?
[12:53] <babo> cp -p ?
[12:53] <Paolo88> but i can have problem whit softwares and updates for 64 bit?
[12:53] <Olof_szary> What is nescessery to do after installing kubuntu. And is it wise to change root password?
[12:53] <ikonia> babo correct
[12:53] <BlueEagle> madsj: /dev/scXY are not disks. /dev/sdXY however are. X is drive letter and Y is partition number.
[12:53] <babo> ah, preserve ownership
[12:53] <babo> thanks
[12:53] <BlueEagle> !sudo | Olof_szary
[12:54] <airtonix> Olof_szary, ubuntu security : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812
[12:57] <madsj> BlueEagle, I only have /dev/sda? and they're devoted to my HDD
[12:57] <Olof_szary> airtonix: thx a lot
[12:57] <airtonix> Olof_szary, :)
[12:58] <abo> hello, ubuntu doesn't want to use my i815 video, instead it uses framebufferdev after running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, way to fix this ?
[12:58] <amikrop> Hello. I have noticed that the "Create New Wireless Network" option of the Network Manager is badly broken. When I choose it, and I set network name and encryption, it doesn't work. It says "connecting to "unknown"..." and it displays a wireless icon with every bar, empty. Is that a known issue?
[12:59] <FordCortin1> ive got a problem with an unauthenticated package, how do i work out which repository it comes from?
[12:59] <airtonix> FordCortin1, apt-cache show package-name
[13:01] <airtonix> FordCortin1, woops ignore that
[13:01] <erwin_> hi, just wanted to ask how i could install the build-essential package offline.. is it included in the installation disk?
[13:01] <ikonia> erwin_ not included on the install cd
[13:01] <paul68> can someone help me reconfiguring a dhcp server
[13:01] <ikonia> paul68 whats teh issue
[13:01] <FordCortin1> airtonix: yeh i dont think i can find the repo name there
[13:01] <erwin_> ikonia: how do i install it then?
[13:01] <amanu> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.  im getting this erro when ever im tryimg to install any thing how can i recover from iy
[13:02] <ikonia> erwin_ download it online and save it to somewhere you can access offline
[13:02] <Atax> Hi all, how do I autostart applications in Ubunt?
[13:02] <erwin_> ikonia: i'm having problems with my network card,..
[13:02] <alpsy> has anyone here got the LCD and macro keys working on a logitech g15 keyboard ?
[13:02] <ikonia> erwin_ thats how you do it though
[13:02] <amanu> ikonia:can you remember me asked last time for mounting root.disk a wubi disk in ubuntu
[13:02] <ikonia> amanu I think so
[13:03] <erwin_> ikonia: may i ask if the current kernel has patches already for the sis190 module
[13:03] <ikonia> erwin_ I have no idea, ubuntu doesn't apply many patches so I'd guess not
[13:03] <airtonix> !autostart | Atax
[13:03] <erwin_> ikonia: already installed the most recent kernel but i still could get my sis gigabit ethernet working
[13:03] <amanu> ikonia:as after i copied all *.deb packages from that wubi and copied here in current archives folder
[13:03] <erwin_> *coudn't
[13:03] <ikonia> erwin_ changing the kernel is a big mistake unless you know %100 it will fix the problem and %150 what your doing
[13:04] <badserii> Hi! I'm trying to install gspca. When I install it with EasyCam2, it works, I mean, camera is working, but after a reboot, gspca runs, but camera is not detected. How to face it? I'm using Ubuntu Hardy Heron. Thanks
[13:04] <amanu> ikonia:but after that  im getting this E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.  im getting this erro when ever im tryimg to install any thing how can i recover from iy
[13:04] <ikonia> amanu run dpkg
[13:04] <ikonia>                --configure -a
[13:04] <erwin_> ikonia: i don't have any other choice but to build the driver myself.
[13:04] <ikonia> amanu: but I advise you to not try to do what you want to do with wubi
[13:04] <amanu> ikonia:yes i did it but still same error
[13:05] <alpsy> seriously, why can't there be another way for the average (windows) user to install hardware on linux other than randomly reading hundrets of pages in forums and following random tutorials and still not getting the bloody hardware to work like you want..
[13:05] <ikonia> amanu your trynig to move wubi to be a "reel" install as I remember yes/no /?
[13:05] <ikonia> alpsy what hardware
[13:05] <amanu> ikonia:yes
[13:05] <erwin_> ikonia: is it possible? migrate the wubi installation to a real one?
[13:06] <ikonia> amanu as I recall I advised you to not do that, and to re-install using the proper install methods
[13:06] <ikonia> erwin_: I don't believe so
[13:06] <amanu> ikonia:im trying to get packages installed  in wubi to work in a fresh install
[13:06] <ikonia> amanu: why ?
[13:06] <alpsy> ikonia: my keyboard for eyample.. logitech g15. the normal keys are working fine, but the lcd and macro keys aren't
[13:06] <airtonix> FordCortin1, when you say repository do you mean which server? or which section of the deafult repo?
[13:06] <airtonix> FordCortin1, ie main, universe etc
[13:06] <amanu> konia:ohh it was arund 700 mb so i cant duwnload
[13:06] <FordCortin1> airtonix: im looking for both really
[13:07] <amanu> konia:it takes around 1500mins to do so
[13:07] <FordCortin1> this is a new dell computer
[13:07] <FordCortin1> which im trying to update
[13:07] <amanu> konia:as my net connection was slow
[13:07] <ikonia> alpsy: normally they are configured via xorg, but as they use a propriaty driver in windows, the linux world can't make it "work out of the box" as you want, so instead of complaining in here - contact logitech, OR buy hardware that is supported
[13:07] <airtonix> FordCortin1, well dpgk -l package-name shows the section (universe etc)
[13:07] <ikonia> amanu: you have an install cd yes/no ?
[13:07] <ikonia> amanu: I asssume thats where you got wubi from
[13:07] <airtonix> FordCortin1, see if i cant find how to get the other bit of info
[13:08] <amanu> ikonia;live cd?
[13:08] <ikonia> amanu: a livecd
[13:08] <amanu> ohh no
[13:08] <ikonia> amanu: where di you get wubi from ?
[13:08] <FordCortin1> airtonix: that's funny, i cant get any output from dpkg -l
[13:08] <FordCortin1> the package is  linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-19-generic
[13:08] <amanu> ikonia:my current system only
[13:08] <ikonia> amanu: where di you get wubi from ?
[13:08] <amanu> ikonia:i have 3 working
[13:09] <ikonia> amanu: where di you get wubi from ?
[13:09] <BoSJo> Hi all. How comes that when i shut down Ubuntu, it only remowes everything from Home screen except the background...and it just sit like that for ever?
[13:09] <FordCortin1> does dpkg -l only work for installed packages?
[13:09] <Xcerca> i'm downloading the quake 3 demo and the extention is gz.sh  ,  do i just run that command of is that extractable to a .run or somthing ?
[13:09] <amanu> ikonia:xp,ubuntu(with wubi in xp ),ubuntu on seperate partition
[13:09] <erwin_> FordCortin1: -l means list installed packages
[13:10] <ikonia> amanu LISTEN to what I'm asking and answer thq eustion instead of telling me things I don't need to know
[13:10] <wendico> hello, understanding and configuring custom udev rules is too complex for me, can someone aid me in configuring a udev rule to initialize my 3g modem automaticly on plug?
[13:10] <ikonia> amanu WHERE did you get wubi form to install your system
[13:10] <amanu> ikonia:ok
[13:10] <paul68> ikonia: I will be back later concerning this matter thanks anyway
[13:10] <FordCortin1> erwin_: ok, so that won't be very useful, since this package isnt installed yet
[13:10] <FordCortin1> im rather not install an untrusted package if possible
[13:10] <erwin_> FordCortin1: what do you want to do?
[13:10] <amanu> ikonia:it is from the cd itself 8.04 desktop edition
[13:10] <ikonia> amanu right so you can install from that CD
[13:10] <ikonia> amanu: you don't have to download 700 meg
[13:10] <FordCortin1> erwin_:  linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-19-generic i s "untrusted"
[13:10] <amanu> ikonia:send to my friend frrom netherlands on a requet
[13:11] <ikonia> amanu then ask him to send it back
[13:11] <FordCortin1> erwin_: which means its either badly/unsigned or im missing some apt-keys
[13:11] <amanu> ikonia:ohh no the packages were downloaded by myself from terminal apt-get
[13:12] <FordCortin1> erwin_: so I need to work out who is signing those packages
[13:12] <ikonia> amanu: but they are on the CD - so you don't have to download them
[13:12] <erwin_> FordCortin1: oh :D, i can't help sorry :(
[13:12] <airtonix> FordCortin1, apt-cache show package-name show give you similar info regardless of installed or not
[13:12] <FordCortin1> erwiin_:: and make sure ive got their public key installed
[13:12] <amanu> ikonia:noo please listen to me
[13:12] <airtonix> FordCortin1, but finding the reposiroty server url is another matter
[13:12] <BlueEagle> paul68: If you didn't catch the link ikonia posted to Olof_szary then I suggest you catch it now. I think it will be a good read for you. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812
[13:13] <amanu> ikonia:im saying that i have 2 ubuntus one installed from xp(using wubi.exe) another a fresh install in a seperate partition
[13:13] <ikonia> amanu "ok"
[13:13] <Finiras> i just did makedrv to compile a driver, but at the end of it, it said "make: *** [modules] Error 2". does this mean that i cant use the driver
[13:13] <ziroday> Finiras: what driver were you compiling and why?
[13:14] <amanu> ikonia:as i was using wubis ubuntu from a long time a downloaded a lot of packs there using apt-get install from net
[13:14] <ikonia> amanu what are you using that was 700 meg to download
[13:14] <klepto> hello, can someone tell me how I can move vt8 to a different vt? one of my apps needs ctrl+alt+f8 key combo but becuase vt8 is in use it's not working
[13:14] <Finiras> ziroday a driver for my wireless card, can i send the errors to you in private pm?
[13:14] <paul68> BlueEagle: thanks
[13:14] <airtonix> FordCortin1, doesnt look obvioud to me at the moment
[13:14] <amikrop> Hello. I have noticed that the "Create New Wireless Network" option of the Network Manager is badly broken. When I choose it, and I set network name and encryption, it doesn't work. It says "connecting to "unknown"..." and it displays a wireless icon with every bar, empty. Is that a known issue?
[13:14] <airtonix> FordCortin1,obvious*
[13:14] <ziroday> !pastebin | Finiras you can pastebin them
[13:15] <juro> sorry for asking again: what happened here: http://imagebin.ca/view/x2tkMh.html
[13:15] <amanu> ikonia:i means i downloaded around 700 mb of packages from terminal using internet in that wubis install ok?
[13:15] <ikonia> amanu what packages
[13:15] <ikonia> amanu: what packages have you downloaded that add up to 700 meg
[13:15] <amanu> ikonia:just applications
[13:15] <ikonia> amanu such as ?
[13:15] <ziroday> juro: looks like gnome-panel was having a bad day. Open up a terminal and type in killall gnome-panel && gnome-panel &
[13:15] <airtonix> juro, maybe you have two gnome-panels running at once?
[13:16] <amanu> ikonia:xchat,games,accesories
[13:16] <ikonia> amanu thats not 700 meg
[13:16] <ikonia> amanu: what have you downloaded that even comes close to 700 meg
[13:16] <ziroday> Finiras: also what drivers in particular?
[13:16] <amanu> ikonia:yes
[13:16] <ikonia> amanu: WHAT have you downloaded that adds up to 700 meg
[13:16] <Finiras> ziroday for the wlan driver for the MSI wind
[13:16] <amanu> ikonia:i checked that from /var/apt/archives
[13:17] <wendico> pluging or unpluging my 3g pcmcia doesnt leave any new line in my /var/log/messges, how can i identify my dev so i can write custom udev rule?
[13:17] <ikonia> amanu: WHAT have you downloaded that adds up to 700 meg
[13:17] <Finiras> ziroday http://paste.ubuntu.com/56992/
[13:17] <amanu> yes
[13:17] <ziroday> Finiras: okay, have you pastebined the terminal output yet?
[13:17] <ikonia> amanu: WHAT have you downloaded that adds up to 700 meg
[13:17] <amanu> ikonia:yes]
[13:17] <ikonia> amanu the answer is not YES
[13:17] <ziroday> Finiras: great, gimme a sec. Are you following a guide from anywhere?
[13:17]  * GM-Cosmo_PW gives ziroday a news paper (New York Times Sunday Edition)
[13:17] <Finiras> ziroday i believe that the errors are in a few of the last lines
[13:17] <Frogzoo> wendico: if the kernel doesn't recognise it when you plug it in, it's doubtful you'll get it to work
[13:17] <ziroday> GM-Cosmo_PW: ?
[13:17] <ikonia> amanu: I'm asking you what packages you have downloaded to add up to 700 meg
[13:17] <amanu> ikonia:why?
[13:17] <ikonia> amanu so I can understand you situation
[13:17] <amanu> ikonia:ok i will tell
[13:18] <Finiras> ziroday https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/246141/comments/72
[13:18] <amanu> ikonia:progarmmming tools:qt3...
[13:18] <amanu> ikonia:skype
[13:18] <ikonia> about 100 meg so far
[13:18] <ziroday> Finiras: thank you, it will take a couple of minutes to read all of this. Please hold :)
[13:18] <wendico> Forgzoo: the hardware works correctly, i inizialize it with gcom -d /dev/noz0, does that means that my hardware is recogniced as /dev/noz0 even though i dont see that lines explained before?
[13:18] <juro> ziroday, unfortunately that doesn't work. It relaoads the panel and then it looks the same
[13:18] <Finiras> ziroday thanks a  lot
[13:18] <amanu> ikonia:around 700 mb sofar
[13:18] <ikonia> amanu qt+ programming tools + skye does not = 700 meg
[13:19] <juro> airtonix, no, ps aux | grep gnome-panel only shows one
[13:19] <amanu> ikonia:when i checked its size from /var/apt..
[13:19] <ikonia> amanu that includes all the ones used at install tinme
[13:19] <amanu> ikonia:lol shall i need to list all which i have
[13:19] <ziroday> juro: odd, could you please delete the notification area applet and then create a new one?
[13:19] <juro> ziroday, "Remove from panel">
[13:19] <juro> ?
[13:19] <ikonia> amanu: I don't think your telling me the truth so I'm not going to use up any more time
[13:20] <airtonix> juro, maybe your font dpi  needs to be re-asserted ?
[13:20] <prodigel> Hi all.three problems I got yet from upgrading to 8.10: 1: madwifi/wireless network not working anymore 2: keyboard arrows not working, 3: cannot see native 20" wide lcd monitor resolution in display settings
[13:20] <prodigel> most important now is my wireless connection
[13:20] <amanu> ikonia:usually at fresh install of ubuntu contains how many in applications->otheres?
[13:20] <amanu> ikoniacan u?
[13:20] <ziroday> juro: right click the dotted lines on the left of the notification area and you will see a "delete" option
[13:20] <Finiras> so ziroday,  what do you make of it?
[13:20] <prodigel> sorry, wrong channel
[13:21] <mycrypt-> l3l
[13:21] <mycrypt-> !!!
[13:21] <amanu> ikonia: I don't think your telling me the truth so I'm not going to use up any more time
[13:21] <g33k_gir1> is there a dedicated virtualbox channel?
[13:21] <amanu> means?
[13:21] <ziroday> Finiras: still reading, I believe its because you have an unlisted dependency but not sure. Do you know what wireless card the msi wind has? I am also looking for other guides to solve your issue
[13:21] <juro> ziroday, ok, now it works
[13:22] <snadge> my X has stopped working.. when i loaded gnome-terminals it just came up with the window, then went black.. firefox wouldn't load.. so i ctrl-alt-backspace and now when I login.. i just get a mouse pointer and nothing?
[13:22] <Finiras> ziroday realtek rtl8187se
[13:22] <amanu> ikonia:are you there?
[13:22] <snadge> im pretty sure if i rebooted the problem would go away .. but this machine has never done this before.. 8.04.1 nvidia (proposed-updates)
[13:22] <z0d> do you know a good gtk 2 disk catalogizer application?
[13:22] <ziroday> Finiras: please see http://wiki.msiwind.net/index.php/Ubuntu_8.04_Hardy_Heron#Wireless:
[13:22] <ikonia> amanu yes
[13:22] <wendico> ok, since i got lost trying to solve the problem while adquiring knowledge i didn solve anithing.
[13:22] <ziroday> Finiras: particularly the second option
[13:22] <Dementio> anyone know how to make ossmix changes stay?
[13:22] <ziroday> juro: awesome! Have fun
[13:23] <amanu> ikonia:can you get what my problem is?
[13:23] <juro> ziroday, thanx will do
[13:23] <Dementio> i've tried "ossmix misc.green +10" and it shows that it changes, but if i run ossmix again, it shows the old value
[13:23] <wendico> can someone help me to issue a command when pluging a hardware?
[13:23] <ziroday> wendico: what was your problem?
[13:23] <ikonia> amanu no, I don't believe you are telling me the truth so I'm not going to use any more time discusing it
[13:23] <scuser> hi all,
[13:23] <amanu> ikonia:ohh
[13:23] <scuser> I've been trying to kerberize lustre, so I followed the instructions mentioned in the lustre manual, but unfortunately the step which requires mounting the MDT and OST using the command mount -t lustre -o sec=plain /dev/sda8 /mnt/data/mdt didn't work raising an error which says "Unrecognized mount option "sec=plain" or missing value"
[13:23] <scuser> Any help, please
[13:23] <ziroday> wendico: sure, can you try explain your problem a little better, and on one line please
[13:23] <Finiras> ziroday those are not the latest drivers, actually im using them right now and they dont work properly
[13:23] <ikonia> scuser still strungging huh
[13:24] <amanu> ikonia:i f u really wnat to see i will give remote acess to my system
[13:24] <ikonia> amanu no thank you
[13:24] <amanu> ikonia:im saying truth
[13:24] <scuser> ikonia: yes :'(
[13:24] <ziroday> Finiras: ah, did you run this command sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r` ?
[13:24] <Finiras> ziroday well i did run sudo apt-get install build-essential
[13:24] <Dementio> anyone?
[13:25] <ziroday> Finiras: try installing the kernel headers as well
[13:25] <ziroday> Dementio: not sure, but try running ossmix as root
[13:25] <wendico> i would like to issue the following command "gcom -d /dev/noz0" when inserting my 3G pcmcia card. If possible, i would like to issue the SIM pin Number as parameter to the command.
[13:25] <amanu> ikonia:can u atlest tell me a command from terminal which will show me size of my /var/apt/archives?
[13:25] <Dementio> same effect
[13:25] <ikonia> amanu I don't wish to use up any more time discussing it with you
[13:25] <amanu> ok
[13:25] <opticalmouse> !love TembamNyee.3gp
[13:25] <ziroday> wendico: what 3G card is it?
[13:25] <Finiras> ziroday it returns that build-essential is already at the latest version
[13:26] <ziroday> Finiras: what about the package linux-headers-`uname -r` ?
[13:26] <enzotib> amanu, du -s <dir>
[13:26] <amanu> ikonia:any how thanks to caht with you bye im leaving i hope i have to reinstall the system
[13:26] <amanu> enzotib:ok thanks dude
[13:26] <Finiras> ziroday oh yeah it says that too
[13:26] <wendico> zidoday: it is a Orange Business Everywhere PCMCIA 3G+ Card. It works correctly issuing that command i want to automaticly run
[13:26] <scuser> ikonia: any help ?
[13:26] <Finiras> aalso uptodate
[13:27] <ikonia> scuser I only saw luster yesterday for the first time, so I'm as new with it as you
[13:27] <ikonia> scuser did you manager to find/contact the patch writers?
[13:27] <ziroday> Finiras: alright, possibly try redownloading the drivers. However I think you will find that they will not work. You can see !compile for more information but I don't think I will be able to help you further. Sorry
[13:28] <ziroday> wendico: okay, one moment please
[13:28] <Finiras> ziroday thanks
[13:28] <scuser> ikonia: I sent to the mailing list
[13:28] <ikonia> scuser good call
[13:28] <wendico> ziroday: np, i can wait
[13:28] <amanu> ikonia:amanu@amanu-laptop:~$ du -s '/var/cache/apt/archives'
[13:28] <amanu> 841544	/var/cache/apt/archives
[13:28] <amanu> amanu@amanu-laptop:~$
[13:28] <ikonia> amanu why are you showing me these
[13:28] <beoba> does anyone know wheter mono 2.0 is being included in 8.10?
[13:28] <amanu> ikonia:plss dont think im a fool
[13:28] <beoba> *whether
[13:28] <ikonia> amanu: what part of "I don't want to use any more time on this" am I not being clear with
[13:28] <Dementio> anyone else use oss?
[13:28] <ziroday> beoba: no.
[13:29] <ziroday> beoba: sorry, its not being included. Its too late for it to be included
[13:29] <amanu> ikonia:it really doent matter if you dont want to chat about that but what im saying is truth
[13:29] <beoba> ziroday: 8.10.1?
[13:29] <klepto> does anyone know how to disable/move vt8?
[13:29] <amanu> ikonia:im not a lier and dont wish to lie too
[13:29] <amanu> thats all not more than that
[13:30] <LjjjL> amanu: what's the issue?
[13:30] <ziroday> beoba: possibly, but more likely 9.04. There will of course be externel ppa and repos with 2.0 packages
[13:30] <Finiras> ziroday can you guess if the errors are fatal?
[13:30] <ziroday> Finiras: they are
[13:30] <beoba> ziroday: oh thats fine
[13:30] <amanu> LjjjL:i have a problem i requested him too he solved last time too nice
[13:31] <beoba> as long as there's some way to make it available
[13:31] <amanu> notjing problem
[13:31] <beoba> without doing it from scratch
[13:31] <corp> greetings
[13:31] <corp> i'm looking at building some packages that ubuntu doesn't have. should i follow the debian maintainers guide?
[13:31] <amanu> LjjjL:but this time when i say that i have a problem hes saying that you are lying and i dont want to chat with u
[13:32] <ikonia> amanu: thats not what I said
[13:32] <The_Niko> hi
[13:32] <mib_52yxtkpp> can anyone help me with my wlan on ubuntu?
[13:32] <wendico> how can i disable the entering and leaving room messages from pidgin irc? they waste so much screen...
[13:32] <Frogzoo> corp: good place to start
[13:33] <amanu> ikonia:if really the mistake is mines im really sorry becuase im just a common student
[13:33] <amanu> ikonia:begging here to solve my problem
[13:33] <amanu> ikonia:because im unable to solve it
[13:33] <corp> Frogzoo: OK. the package is a library - it says i should rename libnameBROKEN to libname1. does '1' refer to a version number?
[13:33] <amanu> ikonia:im new one to ubuntu too
[13:33] <amanu> ikonia:so just leave itttt
[13:33] <wendico> amanu: may you write in one line plz?
[13:34] <Frogzoo> corp: shees, I dunno
[13:34] <amanu> wendico:what to write?
[13:34] <plamar> I need help, I have to install some dev version of mysql from these external contractors code, they use 'yum mysql' and 'yum mysql-devel'
[13:34] <plamar> and I cannot sem to get the same packages with aptget
[13:34] <ade_> ade
[13:34] <plamar> meaning they don't compile
[13:34] <wendico> amanu: you use several lines for same response, may u use one line per response?
[13:34] <plamar> how do I look up what packages yum is downloading?
[13:34] <ade_> ade
[13:35] <ikonia> plamar so you want mysql-server
[13:35] <amanu> wendico:ok
[13:35] <plamar> how would you all approach this?
[13:35] <ikonia> plamar open your package manager and install the mysql-server package
[13:35] <plamar> if i apt get mysql server the code is still not compiling
[13:35] <mib_52yxtkpp> can anyone help me with my wlan on ubuntu Broadcom bcm4306
[13:35] <amanu> wendico:sorry for that im in confusiopn im totally iritated
[13:35] <ikonia> plamar mysql-server-dev package also
[13:35] <mib_52yxtkpp> please
[13:35] <Finiras> ziroday this looks better right http://paste.ubuntu.com/56998/ do you think its usable? there were still a bunch of warnings
[13:36] <BlueEagle> plamar: To compile stuff you need !build-essentials
[13:36] <Finiras> ziroday https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/246141/comments/72
[13:36] <wendico> amanu: np, im just so impatient for the resolution of my problem that i get someway irritated to
[13:36] <Finiras> ziroday the thing is i didnt apply the patch as suggested here
[13:36] <BlueEagle> !build-essentials | plamar
[13:36] <mib_52yxtkpp> can anyone help me with my wlan on ubuntu please
[13:36] <amanu> wendico:its ok
[13:36] <BlueEagle> !anyone | mib_52yxtkpp
[13:37] <plamar> !build-essentials?
[13:37] <wendico> amanu: nevertheless, people here help a lot in general, so ill guess i just have to be patient.
[13:37] <BlueEagle> !build-essentials | plamar
[13:38] <Finiras> can anybody tell me if this driver is usable since there were a buch of warnings when i compiled it http://paste.ubuntu.com/56998/
[13:38] <amanu> wendico:i too believe the same
[13:38] <lukasz> siema
[13:38] <HtheB> exit roflcopter
[13:39] <mib_52yxtkpp> lol my question is how to get the dammed wlan worked I've got a Broadcom bcm4306
[13:40] <amanu> ikonia:but today it seems my time is a little bit bad so im exited really soory for that i will be a little bit happy if you excuse me ok?
[13:41] <erwin_> somebody help me with my network card, i have a sis gigabit ethernet which doesn't work with hardy...
[13:41] <Finiras> can anybody tell me if this driver is usable since there were a buch of warnings when i compiled it http://paste.ubuntu.com/56998/
[13:42] <airtonix> amanu, i think the issue is that your use of the english language creates some confusion amongst others.
[13:42] <airtonix> amanu, no insult intended there....just saying what i think
[13:43] <plamar> mysql server dev?
[13:43] <wendico> Does anyone can help me to automatically set the device to be used by my GlobeTrotter 3G+ to communicate with the data-card when the card is inserted in my laptop (manually i have to issue "gcom -d /dev/noz0" with root privileges)
[13:43] <amanu> airtonix:i knows english a little bit only
[13:43] <mib_52yxtkpp> english is not everyones mothertoung
[13:43] <amanu> airtonix:is my words are rash?
[13:43] <plamar> what package is that? Cannot find it at packages.debian.org
[13:43] <airtonix> amanu, not rash...misplaced
[13:44] <airtonix> amanu, :) dont worry too much about it...
[13:44] <amanu> airtonix:ohh i dont know even meaning of misplaced
[13:44] <airtonix> amanu, what is your native language by the way?
[13:44] <amanu> airtonix:hindi
[13:45] <airtonix> amanu, ah kool....i used to work in a indian resturuant...was caled belair bhavan
[13:45] <wendico> misplaced=out of place=in a place it should not be=not requested
[13:45] <mib_52yxtkpp> Does anybody help me with my wlan my problem is that i can't find it (i thiank i don't have ithe driver) but it says all the time that i must enter the password which is right
[13:45] <airtonix> amanu, :)
[13:45] <plamar> what package is that? Cannot find it at packages.debian.orgoh wow, it would help if I included the right directory...
[13:45] <amanu> airtonix::)
[13:45] <kiosk_> ade
[13:45] <kiosk_> ade
[13:46] <Tena> Is it possible to choose sessions with different graphics drivers? one with radeon and another with opengl for example
[13:46] <ziroday> kiosk: do you have a question?
[13:46] <mib_52yxtkpp> Does anybody help me with my wlan my problem is that i can't find it (i thiank i don't have ithe driver) but it says all the time that i must enter the password which is right
[13:47] <BruceLozz> ﻿mib_52yxtkpp: might be the router firewall...
[13:47] <ThinkMinus> ?
[13:47] <mib_52yxtkpp> but with windoos it works
[13:47] <Inichua> Hi, I kinda new to Ubuntu and Linux in general and i have run into a problem. I can't get my wireless networkcard to work. I've tried several guides from the forum so maybe i have schrewed it up even more then when i started. can someone please try to help me?
[13:47] <Tena> id like to chat with someone with dual-display+ati pls
[13:48] <ubuntujock> do you know the make of the wireless card?
[13:48] <amanu> Tena:what is dual-display+ati?
[13:48] <mib_52yxtkpp> Broadcom bcm4306
[13:48] <ubuntujock> ouch
[13:48] <Tena> two monitors and ati x1400
[13:48] <ziroday> Inichua: we will try our best, what wireless card do you have?
[13:48] <ThinkMinus> Tena- I can help you.....but
[13:48] <Inichua> it's a Archos or something
[13:49] <Inichua> isn't there a way to see, in terminal?
[13:49] <ziroday> Inichua: could you pastebin the output of lspci, also what computer make and model do you have?
[13:49] <ziroday> Inichua: yes lspci is the command
[13:49] <Tena> my dual display is working right now, but i cant enable ati accelerated graphics because then it crash
[13:50] <Inichua> gimme a sec
[13:50]  * GM-Cosmo_PW gives Inichua Tintin's father Herge
[13:50] <Inichua> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 Host Bridge
[13:50] <Inichua> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Unknown device 9602
[13:50] <Inichua> 00:04.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 0)
[13:50] <Inichua> 00:06.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 2)
[13:50] <Inichua> 00:07.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 3)
[13:50] <FloodBot3> Inichua: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:50] <Inichua> 00:09.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 4)
[13:51] <Pici> gimme a sec
[13:51]  * GM-Cosmo_PW gives Pici a channel operator
[13:52] <ziroday> !pastebin | Inichua
[13:53] <Inichua> http://paste.ubuntu.com/57003/
[13:53] <Myrtti> gimme a moment
[13:53]  * GM-Cosmo_PW gives Myrtti the hitch hikers guide to the galaxy
[13:53] <ziroday> Inichua: thanks
[13:54] <ziroday> Inichua: this is your card 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[13:54] <amanu> pici:  im getting this E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.  im getting this error when ever im tryimg to install any thing how can i recover from it
[13:54] <ziroday> amanu: run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:54] <Inichua> ok, any ideas how i'll get it to work?
[13:55] <ziroday> Inichua: one sec whilst I find more info on it
[13:55] <Inichua> ok, no problem
[13:55] <amanu> ziroday:even then im getting this http://paste.ubuntu.com/56994/
[13:57] <grindhold_> hy guys. what may cause the life cd crashing while boot with a segmentation fauls?
[13:57] <limitedwisdom> greetings.
[13:57] <ziroday> amal029: argh, try do sudo apt-get install --fix-missing
[13:57] <ziroday> Inichua: what is the make and model of your laptop?
[13:58] <amanu> grindhold_:how much ram is yours?
[13:58] <grindhold_> 2 GiB, amanu
[13:58] <Inichua> acer aspire 5530 -704g32mi
[13:59] <ziroday> amanu: did you see my response?
[13:59] <limitedwisdom> I have an ubuntu server. it is machine.name1.com I have two windows servers win.name1.com and win.name2.com. Everything with the name1.com name communicates fine. the name2.com can ping the linux box, but it cannot access files telnet to open ports, etc. Any thoughts?
[13:59] <ziroday> Inichua: thanks, oe sec
[13:59] <amanu> amal029: argh, try do sudo apt-get install --fix-missing is this for me?
[13:59] <ikonia> limitedwisdom what are the network addresses
[13:59] <limitedwisdom> 192.168.25.x
[14:00] <grindhold_> the funny thing is, that it worked 2 days ago. today ubuntu crashed while updating packages. bash was corrupted and the rescue-shell did not work. now i try to install ubuntu again and the cd does not boot, amanu
[14:00] <limitedwisdom> they can all ping each other.
[14:00] <ziroday> amanu: ah woops sorry, yes it is
[14:00] <ikonia> limitedwisdom: firewall
[14:00] <limitedwisdom> it's like the ubuntu server is blocking the name2.com - like a firewall or something
[14:00] <amanu> ziroday:the above is for me ? i think there is some other guy named amal029
[14:00] <limitedwisdom> :) ha. Ok, how do I allow the two to talk?
[14:00] <ziroday> amanu: yes that is for you, please run sudo apt-get install --fix-missing
[14:01] <ziroday> !ndiswrapper | Inichua you will need this
[14:01] <erwin_> somebody help me with my network card, i have a sis gigabit ethernet which doesn't work with hardy...
[14:01] <ikonia> limitedwisdom and you know telnet servers arn't running by defualt ?
[14:01] <amanu> ziroday: this error i got ...amanu@amanu-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install --fix-missing [sudo] password for amanu: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[14:01] <Ve0> 8.10
[14:01] <jim_p> erwin_: lspci ?
[14:02] <Inichua> okey, i'll try that. If it not works i'll be back :). Thank you
[14:02] <erwin_> jim_p: ah, wait its on another pc
[14:02] <OpenTokix> Hello, if I want the kernelpatch for real time kernel debugging. Does anyone know if its availible in some repo?
[14:02] <ziroday> amanu: you have royally messed up your install, I can't help you further
[14:02] <limitedwisdom> correct.
[14:02] <Venin> ﻿ive installed ubuntu to a usb key, and have now booted another usb key to partition the key with ubuntu on. but gparted doesnt allow me to do it. please run e2fsck -f /dev/sdc1
[14:02] <limitedwisdom> i can telnet to some open ports from any machine in the name1.com space.
[14:02] <idefix> that was a hard nut to crack
[14:02] <amanu> ziroday:ok thank you
[14:02] <Tena> is there a way when u click Log Out, u can choose another session with diferent xorg.conf? different drivers and so
[14:03] <anes> hi
[14:03] <erwin_> jim_p: if you need the eth.. its sis191 gigabit eth rev. 2
[14:03] <ziroday> Inichua: specifically the ndiswrapper optin
[14:03] <ziroday> *option
[14:03] <grindhold_> what may cause the live cd crashing with a segfault_
[14:04] <amanu> Tena:i think we can change our sessions but i dont know will xorg.conf will change
[14:04] <Inichua> excuse me?
[14:04] <ancientadm> grindhold: probably a bad burning
[14:04] <jim_p> erwin_: is it displayed in lspci like so? i trust notning more than lspci!
[14:05] <ikonia> limitedwisdom: apoogies, but could you recap the question a little bit explainig which machiens are running which OS and which want to access which and how
[14:05] <grindhold_> ancientadm: i tried 2 cds, one i burned some months ago and one i burned yesterday
[14:05] <amanu> jim_p:if we change our session will all our files like xorg.conf will be different or the same?
[14:05] <FPtje> Hello there fellow linux lovers!
[14:05] <kote> i need vmware download link for kubuntu
[14:05] <amanu> kote:google it :d
[14:05] <erwin_> jim_p: yes its from lspci.. just can paste it since it's on another pc :)
[14:05] <ikonia> !vmware > kote
[14:05] <sqawarlz> ﻿Hello all, I have a problem with my IP tables. I installed a fiirewall which seemed to cause me problems so I removed it but it added a bunch of IP tables which everytime I reboot I have to clear my IP table rules, but they keep coming back! Help!
[14:06] <jim_p> amanu: session as in? knome or kde?
[14:06] <Venin> ﻿﻿ive installed ubuntu to a usb key, and have now booted another usb key to partition the key with ubuntu on. but gparted doesnt allow me to do it. it says: please run e2fsck -f /dev/sdc1 ..ive done that but no change. any ideas?
[14:06] <ancientadm> grindhold: both CDs lead to a seg fault? sounds like it might be a hardware issue. How's your RAM?
[14:06] <jim_p> amanu: xorg is the same then
[14:06] <idefix> why does the ubuntu upgrade installation prompt the user so often about changing config files? if you once changed them because of added hard-/software they should stay the same, no?
[14:06] <amanu> jim_p:ok
[14:06] <kiosk> ade
[14:06] <kiosk> ade
[14:06] <limitedwisdom> sure. Here's the scoop. I'm trying to get Backup Exec to run. From my machine, I can telnet to the ubuntu server just fine. In fact, from any machine on my network that ends in xxx.corp.mydomain.com it works great. I can ping it, telnet it, etc. (It's listening on the appropriate ports).
[14:06] <ancientadm> idefix: got an example we can work with?
[14:06] <amanu> Tena:nope you cant expect that
[14:06] <jim_p> erwin_: let me think
[14:07] <kiosk> ade
[14:07] <idefix> the debconf file, php.ini, dll.conf, shclient.conf and syslog.conf files
[14:07] <sqawarlz> ﻿Hello all, I have a problem with my IP tables. I installed a fiirewall which seemed to cause me problems so I removed it but it added a bunch of IP tables which everytime I reboot I have to clear my IP table rules, but they keep coming back! Help!
[14:07] <grindhold_> ancientadm: thats what i think, too. the funny thing is, that i succeeded installing ubuntu two days ago. today, ubuntu crashed while updating and bash was corrupted. now i wanted to install it again, and the cds give segfaults -.-
[14:07] <Tena> i want to create a session with different xorg. in 6,10 i had 2 sessions, one with opengl drivers and another one with xgl
[14:07] <jim_p> erwin_: 00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 191 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (rev 02)
[14:07] <erwin_> jim_p: if this would help.. i'm getting a "unknown phy transceiver at address 1"
[14:07] <Anarhist> how do i make some command run every time i login to my account?
[14:08] <erwin_> jim_p: yes thats it
[14:08] <jrib> !startup > Anarhist
[14:08] <idefix> acientadm? and etc/apache2/conf.d/charset
[14:08] <limitedwisdom> My Backup Exec server is a windows machine (like my machine). However, it's on a different domain name. so it's hq.mydomain.com. Now, I can ping the linux box from hq.mydomain.com, I am sure the windows side is fine - I transfer files all the time back and forth to my machine...
[14:08] <idefix> etc/apache2/ports.conf
[14:08] <sqawarlz> ﻿Hello all, I have a problem with my IP tables. I installed a fiirewall which seemed to cause me problems so I removed it but it added a bunch of IP tables which everytime I reboot I have to clear my IP table rules, but they keep coming back! Help!
[14:08] <kote> i have c headers problem can someone help?
[14:08] <limitedwisdom> but the BE Server cannot telnet the linux box. It's like the linux box refuses to talk to it....
[14:08] <idefix> just let everybody hack your ports, sqawarlz
[14:09] <sqawarlz> idefix, thanks for your help. Sounds like you are trying to hand me a red herring!
[14:09] <limitedwisdom> like somehow linux is rejecting all connections from the windows server. at first, I couldn't even ping it - I added the windows server to the ubuntu hosts file, then I could ping it (which seems counter-intuitive to me). Ok, I'm done typing now :)
[14:09] <ancientadm> grindhold: have you tried running the memtest option of the CDs for a few passes yet? RAM can be rather unpredictable. =/
[14:10] <idefix> :D
[14:10] <Inichua> to idefix: pf
[14:10] <ancientadm> idefix: so you've customized some files
[14:10] <sqawarlz> ﻿Hello all, I have a problem with my IP tables. I installed a fiirewall which seemed to cause me problems so I removed it but it added a bunch of IP tables which everytime I reboot I have to clear my IP table rules, but they keep coming back! Help!
[14:10] <grindhold_> ancientadm: not yet, because i ran it very often several times ago with no errors. i got lots of bugs before, so i dont think its the ram now
[14:11] <jrib> sqawarlz: what firewall?
[14:11] <ikonia> limitedwisdom: your network setup sounds very odd
[14:11] <idefix> I was working on getting JAVA installed on my PC and for that I upgraded to Hardy but then I had to fix the rear tyre of my housemate for twenty euro's, it cost me a lot of time, so.. can you help me with JAVA?
[14:11] <grindhold_> ancientadm: i already changed mainboard, sended the graphiccard to the manufacturer e.t.c
[14:11] <limitedwisdom> yes, yes it is.
[14:11] <ancientadm> idefix: and apparently updates have certain assumptions about files, because if they went ahead and updated stuff their way, merging your customizations with the updates might break the files. I think the system's looking out for you. :)
[14:11] <jrib> !java > idefix
[14:12] <sqawarlz> jrib, guarddog. I have to run the cmds list http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-iptables-how-to-flush-all-rules.html to get rid of the tables and allow traffic in and out but after a reboot they come back.
[14:12] <limitedwisdom> i could explain, but it would bore you to tears. the bottom line is that i really think the linux box is ignoring anything from this windows server - I can't figure out how to even look at it's firewall (I'm a linux n00b) let alone explicitly allow anything from this one server...
[14:12] <idefix> ancientadm except I don't know how to change the files back rightly, I did keep backups though
[14:12] <sqawarlz> jrib, I did remove guarddog completely however.
[14:12] <jrib> sqawarlz: did you try purging the package?
[14:12] <sqawarlz> jrib, how do I do that? I normally add/remove through synapse
[14:13] <ikonia> limitedwisdom well ubuntu should be running an ANY:ANY rule firewall by default, one thing you could do is install tcpdump/ethereal and snoop the ubuntu network interface to see what it does with windows box packages
[14:13] <ancientadm> idefix: can you diff between the backups and the newly-updated files? that way you can *safely* merge them, albeit manually.
[14:13] <ikonia> packets
[14:13] <jrib> sqawarlz: yeah, it's "completely remove" I believe instead of just "remove".  Is that what you did?
[14:13] <limitedwisdom> wow - that sounds really painful :(
[14:13] <sqawarlz> jrib, no I did completely but it did install a bunch of libraries needed to run on my system and maybe I missed a few of those?
[14:13] <limitedwisdom> I was hoping for - OH yeah - just type this one config line and all your life's problems will be solved :)
[14:13] <ancientadm> grindhold: sounds like a major overhaul there. Well, to test the CDs for *corruption*, you might want to try running them on other computers.
[14:14] <sqawarlz> jrib, cant I apt -get remove guarddog or something to get rid of it completely?
[14:14] <jrib> sqawarlz: I don't think the libraries would matter.  aptitude purge guarddog
[14:14] <ancientadm> grindhold: process of elimination's a slow but steady trouble-shooting technique :D
[14:14] <JCA_> Hi all, ive removed apache2 and php5 and purged the /etc/apache2 folder and now when i reinstall apache2 the configuration files are still missing. how to fix? Thanks.
[14:14] <sqawarlz> jrib, ok let me try that
[14:15] <grindhold_> ancientadm: that's the only chance i have :D
[14:15] <ancientadm> *prays* for grindhold's rig
[14:15] <jim_p> erwin_: did you load this module? sis190
[14:16] <erwin_> jim_p: yes.. and btw i had also upgraded to the latest kernel
[14:16] <amanu> ziroday: this error i got ...amanu@amanu-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install --fix-missing [sudo] password for amanu: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[14:17] <Finiras> how to i export and import a list of packages that i downloaded from synaptic/apt-get, so that i can use it later when i reinstall ubuntu?
[14:17] <jim_p> erwin_: strange. i see here that the module is in the 2.6.24 kernel and is patched
[14:17] <Venin> nobody knows?
[14:17] <Mohammad[B]> howto i can using Nokia EDGE in Ubuntu ?!!!?
[14:17] <amanu> Finiras:you can do it using aptoncd
[14:18] <amanu> !aptoncd | Finiras
[14:18] <limitedwisdom> is there a package for tcpdump or ethereal?
[14:18] <Mohammad[B]> my phone is Nokia 3250
[14:18] <Mohammad[B]> plese help me
[14:18] <remoteLAP> !nonfree
[14:18] <remoteLAP> !restricted
[14:18] <erwin_> jim_p: yes i also noticed  they were patched.. but then when i issue dmesg after modprobe sis90.. i get the "unknown phy transceiver at address 1"
[14:18] <jrib> limitedwisdom: tcpdump for tcpdump and wireshark is the new name for ethereal
[14:19] <limitedwisdom> cool. thanks :)
[14:19] <ancientadm> limitedwisdom: i know how you feel, bro. sometimes i wish my job was as easy as changing one line too...
[14:20] <kri> hi
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[14:20] <ancientadm> hello, kri
[14:20] <goldmetal> on box1 using xterm i ssh into box2, how to tell bash to change console color to green to remind me i am on box2?
[14:20] <kri> there seems to be problem for me to update 'transmission' that is out of box in ubuntu
[14:20] <jim_p> erwin_: wait
[14:20] <ancientadm> limitedwisdom: ironically, most of the fixes i apply only need a few lines, but there's so much digital paperwork behind it -_-
[14:21] <kri> so i want to manually re install it (the new update is not avaible in ubuntu packages). and transmission will not run before i update it.
[14:21] <amanu> Finiras:you there?
[14:21] <Finiras> amanu yes
[14:21] <kri> i think i have even installed it twice now
[14:21] <tavi> hy
[14:21] <kri> so how do i gett rid of it?
[14:21] <tavi> i need help
[14:21] <Venin> what other partition software is there but gparted?
[14:21] <ancientadm> kri: apt-get remove transmission ?
[14:22] <tavi> i have serious problems whit ubuntu hardy heron
[14:22] <Finiras> amanu aptoncd is not what im looking for. i just want to generate a list of all installed packages so that i can download them again
[14:22] <kri> ancientadm: ok, thanks
[14:22] <Frogzoo> Venin: gparted's the best, there's also parted
[14:22] <ancientadm> kri: might need to sudo that, btw
[14:22] <jim_p> erwin_: are you sure about the patch?
[14:22] <kri> ancientadm: done.
[14:22] <ancientadm> kri: it worked? wow
[14:23] <kri> well
[14:23] <dido> hello how to add add-ones to Firefox 2 tool bar?
[14:23] <kri> i can start the program
[14:23] <ancientadm> kri: not often things get solved by one line here. lol
[14:23] <tavi> i can't start any application any program right click and open terminal or everything else
[14:23] <Venin> Frogzoo: it wont resize my usb key
[14:23] <erwin_> yes quite sure.. i looked at the sources.. but if there's anything you noticed just tell me and i'll try it
[14:24] <amanu> Finiras:im sorry i dont know that how to do you mean just to list all the names of your packages currently present in system?
[14:24] <Venin> parted is too scary without a GUI
[14:24] <Venin> hehe
[14:24] <tavi> and whit ctrl alt delete and trying to restart desktop (not shut down not reboot ) doesn't even enter ubuntu
[14:24] <kri> damn
[14:24] <kri> can still be started
[14:24] <tavi> so someone help me?
[14:24] <idefix> acientadm, is there a command for that? to see the difference between old and new conf-files?
[14:24] <kri> after 'sudo apt-get autoremove transmission'
[14:25] <kri> 'the packages is not installed so it cant be removed'
[14:25] <ancientadm> shoutout: can someone send me (or give me a link to) the default config files for the update manager? I think i've a screwed repository list and can't remember where to go. =/
[14:25] <FPtje> I need help installing ubuntu
[14:25] <jrib> kri: why are you removing it?
[14:25] <emma> idefix: maybe you could try diff conf1 conf2
[14:25] <Finiras> amanu no i want to export a file that i can import to another instance of synaptic and then make it download all the packages that were on the pc where the file was exported get it
[14:25] <FPtje> I bought a laptop
[14:25] <kri> jrib: because i need to update it
[14:25] <FPtje> and I'm at the prepare partitions screen
[14:25] <ancientadm> kri: can't you update it as is?
[14:25] <jrib> kri: why...?
[14:25] <kri> why is it still around when i go from the main meny
[14:26] <FPtje> I have one partition as backup for windows vista basic
[14:26] <kri> ancientadm: id did not upgrade for me
[14:26] <kri> why is not rtorrent deafult for ubuntu
[14:26] <kri> that would have rocked
[14:26] <FPtje> and the other one I'd like to use for Ubuntu
[14:26] <FPtje> HOW DO I DO THIS?
[14:26] <Mohammad[B]> how to i can using EDGE in Ubuntu with nokia 3250 ? ?!!?
[14:26] <sqawarlz> jrib, looks like I missed a peice of the firewall. A complete removal worked. Thanks.
[14:26] <amanu> Finiras:soory im helpless in this case lets ask in channel
[14:26] <sqawarlz> !iptables
[14:26] <jrib> sqawarlz: no problem
[14:26] <jim_p> erwin_: are you there?
[14:26] <ancientadm> FPtjie: caps won't save you.
[14:26] <FPtje> I know
[14:26] <FPtje> halp meh
[14:26] <jrib> kri: transmission is in hardy-backports.  Did you try just using that package?
[14:26] <erwin_> jim_p: yes here..\
[14:27] <kri> well transmission is still there and i need to update it to get it to work, and there are no good support in #transmission
[14:27] <FPtje> it says There is no basic filesystem difined. please recover from the blah blah
[14:27] <FPtje> HOW to do this?
[14:27] <sqawarlz> jrib, I have some questions about Ubuntu IPtables. How knowledgable are you of iptables and firewalls?
[14:27] <kri> so i want it removed and install it fresh
[14:27] <ancientadm> FPtje: let me see if i understand: you have 1 hard drive on the laptop, and a portion of it is already using Windoze Vista?
[14:27] <jlc> I am trying to install java onto 8.04 x64 using sun's instructions.  I have a snag, will somwone please help me?
[14:27] <FPtje> yes
[14:27] <erwin_> jim_p: i just downloaded the driver from sis, made some changes.. and compiled it.. same thing happens
[14:27] <kri> jrib: hardy-backports?
[14:27] <jrib> sqawarlz: I don't know much more than what is on that wiki page.  just ask the channel and I'll help if I can
[14:27] <FPtje> ancientadm: yes
[14:27] <kri> i cant figure why i still can start it after i removed it?
[14:27] <jrib> !backports | kri
[14:28] <jim_p> erwin_: you compile it to a .so file or something??
[14:28] <dido> please help
[14:28] <jrib> kri: type 'which transmission'.  What is returned?
[14:28] <erwin_> jim_p: .ko
[14:28] <ancientadm> FPtje: how much "unpartitioned space" do you have left?
[14:28] <kri> !packaging
[14:28] <jim_p> dido: hit it!
[14:28] <Yaroze> How can i force Ubuntu to mount ntfs even if it has been uncleanly unmounted? I dont want to have to run ntfsfix or force mount it manualy every time..
[14:28] <FPtje> about 140 GB
[14:28] <FPtje> 120-140 GB
[14:28] <trilobit`> Can anyone tell me how to use "sed" to remove lines that contain "examplestring" from a file ?
[14:28] <kri> jrib: /usr/bin/transmission
[14:29] <ancientadm> FPyje: do you want to use all of that for your Linux installation, or would you want to save some space for something like data storage?
[14:29] <tomal> HI ALL
[14:29] <jrib> trilobit`: sed '/PATTERN/d'
[14:29] <FPtje> wait
[14:29] <FPtje> installation?
[14:29] <ancientadm> tomal: hello =)
[14:29] <trilobit`> jrib: I'll try that, thanks.
[14:29] <dido> jim-p;i can not install Firefox 2 add-ones
[14:29] <FPtje> do I need a special partition for the installation?
[14:29] <jrib> kri: apt-cache policy transmission-gtk
[14:29] <kri> jrib: im in /usr/bin/ now 'sudo rm -r transmission'?
[14:29] <ancientadm> !filesystem
[14:29] <FPtje> can't I do just like windows install on one partition and then install the programs and data on the same partition?
[14:29] <tomal> TOMAL W R U FROM/
[14:29] <jrib> kri: no. that's never a good idea...
[14:29] <erwin_> jim_p: i have a very similar problem as this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-188060.html
[14:30] <trilobit`> jrib: Does that work on standard input?
[14:30] <LjjjL> trilobit`: you can just use grep
[14:30] <jrib> trilobit`: like that it does
[14:30] <Smegzor> I'm not sure if this is a Wine issue or an Ubuntu issue, but I have an icon on my desktop that tries to launch to a different path from what I put in the launcher.  Why/how is the icon totally ignoring what I type into it?
[14:30] <jlc> can someone please help me get java working on 8.04 x64
[14:30] <kri> jrib: that gets me 5 lines? can i paste?
[14:30] <jrib> !java > jlc
[14:30] <jrib> kri: paste.ubuntu.com
[14:31] <erwin_> jlc: doesnt' apt-get install work?
[14:31] <kri>  *** 1.06-0ubuntu6 0
[14:31] <kri>         500 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/main Packages
[14:31] <kri>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[14:31] <kri>      1.06-0ubuntu4 0
[14:31] <kri>         500 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Packages
[14:31] <FloodBot3> kri: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:31] <tomal> HI
[14:31] <jrib> kri: well, it's still installed and you also ignored my request for you to use pastebin...
[14:31] <kri> ooh sorry thought you mean to paste whats ended with ubuntu.com
[14:32] <erwin_> jim_p: still there?
[14:32] <blackcookie> ola, como es el comado par aver si tengo algo insalado???
[14:32] <jrib> kri: but, I'm trying to understand what you actually want to accomplish.  Do you want to get rid of transmission forever or just update it?
[14:32] <jrib> !es | blackcookie
[14:32] <jim_p> erwin_: yes, reading. can i go have lunch??
[14:32] <kri> jrib: i want it to work again
[14:32] <kri> i cant get any new torrents to work
[14:33] <kri> cause i need to upgrade it
[14:33] <jrib> kri: how is it not working exactly?
[14:33] <blackcookie> sorry
[14:33] <jrib> kri: install the version from hardy-backports, that works fine for me
[14:33] <kri> well the new torrent gets red and it says please update to latest version of it
[14:33] <noneo> root on remote linux set two the same IPs on two interfaces: eth0:3 and eth1. how to guess wich interface I use?
[14:33] <erwin_> jim_p: sure thing.. gotta go myself.. have to let go.. and do this again tomorrow :D
[14:33] <tyberion> hello, i am about to go and buy an external soundcard (usb) for my notebook, are there any ones that u can recommen for the use with ubuntu, easy installation, good sound... and an optical out??
[14:34] <kri> jrib: ok, but then i have to get rid of the current version right?
[14:34] <jim_p> erwin_: ok, its 16.30 for me. i will be here tomorrow by 8.00
[14:34] <kri> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/57010/
[14:34] <jrib> kri: no
[14:34] <kri> ok what terminal commands do i enter?
[14:34] <klepto> hi, how can I move the stuff in vt8 to a different vt?
[14:34] <Yaroze> How can i force Ubuntu to mount ntfs even if it has been uncleanly unmounted? I dont want to have to run ntfsfix or force mount it manualy every time..
[14:34] <jrib> kri: enable the backports repository
[14:34] <jlc> What is the multiverse repository?
[14:34] <jrib> !multiverse > jlc
[14:34] <erwin_> jim_p: thanks for the help :D, see you tomorrow :D
[14:34] <meyos> whats a good weather app? anyone know, thanks
[14:35] <jim_p> erwin_: ok bye
[14:35] <mircmac> How do I figure out what is different between my generic and rt kernel boot. After installing linux-rt rt boots and doesn't get the video or network drivers right.
[14:35] <bastid_raZor> noneo; you could monitor one or the other ethx then see which has activity when you surf
[14:35] <bastid_raZor> !msg ubottu !netstat
[14:35] <jrib> Yaroze: tell your fstab to use the force option, see 'man ntfs-3g' and 'man fstab'
[14:36] <noneo> bastid_raZor: thanks - I'll check RX/TX :-)
[14:36] <meyos> jim_p: im updating after my reinstall...it worked, no more edgar,lol
[14:36] <jlc> I need people help, not a bot.  I have questions.
[14:36] <kri> jrib: enable backports repository?
[14:36] <Yaroze> jrib: i cant add it to fstab.. since its more than one drive..
[14:36] <jlc> Will someone please help me get java running.
[14:36] <jrib> Yaroze: so add them all?  I don't know of another way
[14:36] <amanu>  this error i got ...amanu@amanu-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install --fix-missing [sudo] password for amanu: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[14:36] <amanu> any way to solve it
[14:37] <Yaroze> jrib: this is a backup machine.. i just add the drives via usb and make backup...
[14:37] <jrib> jlc: what's your question?
[14:37] <bastid_raZor> amanu; run the command they suggest
[14:37] <jrib> amanu: run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[14:37] <Yaroze> jrib: i tried messing with the options in gconf but that didnt work..
[14:37] <jrib> kri: System -> Administration -> Software Sources
[14:37] <jlc> how do I install it.  I have not been able to install it using Synaptic.
[14:37] <amanu> jrib:with that i got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/56994/
[14:38] <jrib> jlc: what package are you installing exactly?
[14:38] <jrib> !who | jlc
[14:38] <amanu> bastid_raZor:with that i got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/56994/
[14:38] <jrib> amanu: and you have no idea why that is?
[14:38] <Venin> ﻿﻿ive installed ubuntu to a usb key, and have now booted another usb key to partition the key with ubuntu on. but gparted doesnt allow me to do it. it says: please run e2fsck -f /dev/sdc1 ..ive done that but no change. any ideas?
[14:38] <jlc> jrib, sorry, I need to install whatever it takes to get java running in the browsers.
[14:39] <amanu> jrib:i think i recently manually mesed up with it
[14:39] <jrib> jlc: yes, and the page the bot linked you to tells you the exact package you want to install depending on your needs.  So which one are you installing?
[14:39] <craigbass1976> I have several samba shares set up on a ub box.  On windows, they all show up as "$directoryname on Samba xxx"  Can I change this somehow so that it just says a share name without the Samba xxx part?
[14:39] <kri> jrib: add '[X] Unsupported updates (hardy-backports)'?
[14:39] <amanu> jrib:what i done is copied *.deb files from one system and pasted in my system in order to install them
[14:40] <jrib> kri: yep.  After that, upgrade transmission.  Then you can remove backports again if you want
[14:40] <jrib> amanu: were both systems the same version of ubuntu?
[14:40] <idefix> how do I get my svg_loader.so file?
[14:40] <kri> jrib: ok so now 'apt-get update transmission'
[14:40] <datta> i don't know why but when i want to see tv through ubuntu, no sound comes up which comes up in windows
[14:41] <amanu> jrib:both were on my system and same version but the way i installed is different one from xp using wubi.exe and the other a fresh one
[14:41] <jrib> kri: nah, sudo apt-get install transmission
[14:41] <Frogzoo> craigbass1976: try "comment" in smb.conf
[14:41] <datta> i am watching through jumptv
[14:41] <maliang> hello
[14:41] <kri> jrib: well its allready installed but you mean it will update now?
[14:41] <jrib> kri: yeah
[14:41] <Frogzoo> craigbass1976: also "shareName"
[14:41] <kri> if i use this prinicpal to other programs will i never get 'double copys'?
[14:41] <jrib> amanu: then it sounds like you are missing dependencies
[14:41] <craigbass1976> Frogzoo, I just started messing with that; then realized that windows seems to think it should cache things forever...
[14:41] <luanluan> Hello
[14:42] <BCM34> hi
[14:42] <kazulu> hiiii
[14:42] <jrib> kri: If you use APT, it will be smart about it, yeah.
[14:42] <craigbass1976> Frogzoo, the share name is showing up, it's just got the Samba version# afterward.  I wanted it to be simpler
[14:42] <theworld> #join Nouveau-Brunswick
[14:42] <amanu> jrib:as the problem i think i the system was unable to get all missing dependencies so the synaptic was not  running is im coorect?
[14:42] <kazulu> excuse but i need a manual for to lear HTML
[14:43] <datta> can anyone please help me with the problem of sound
[14:43] <BCM34> datta: what is wrong?
[14:43] <luanluan> Please see wiki
[14:43] <jrib> amanu: my guess is that you copied over deb's with newer versions, but they had dependencies with newer versions as well and some of those were not copied
[14:43] <BCM34> kazulu: google html tutorial
[14:43] <datta> i want to watch jumptv but can't hear any sound which i can see in windows
[14:43] <kri> do i get more vurnuble with hardy-backports activated?
[14:43] <kazulu> thanks
[14:43] <jlc> jrib, I need to install sun java
[14:44] <BCM34> datta: does other sound work?
[14:44] <jrib> kri: not really, the maintainers are pretty experienced by now and they are pretty good at testing the packages before releasing them
[14:44] <jrib> jlc: k, so which package is that according to the page the bot linked you to?
[14:44] <datta> yeah
[14:44] <amanu> jrib:will if i unistall all or just empty my /var/cache/apt/archives solves my problem?
[14:44] <BCM34> !sound | datta
[14:45] <amanu> jrib:or any alternative?
[14:45] <jrib> amanu: no, I don't think that will work at this point
[14:45] <jlc> jrib, the bot sent me to a page and I had to follow this link, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JavaInstallation.  not sure what you are asking.
[14:45] <jrib> jlc: did you see the "Installing Sun Java" section there?
[14:46] <jrib> amanu: you have to satisfy all the missing dependencies
[14:46] <jlc> jrib, that link is for running java, not installing.
[14:46] <amanu> jrib:manually?
[14:46] <jrib> jlc: the "Installing Sun Java" section tells you the package you need to install sun java
[14:46] <BCM34> !botsnack
[14:46] <datta> thanks ubutto
[14:47] <Yaroze> jrib: too bad i cant add force to  /system/storage/default_options/ntfs-3g/mount_options :(
[14:47] <dmsuperman> For some reason my terminal is using psuedo-transparency, but I have video drivers installed, and "glxinfo | grep direct" shows "Direct rendering: yes"
[14:47] <dmsuperman> Why is that?
[14:47] <luanluan> WHO have some good TV web/
[14:47] <dcabanis> Hey guys, I'm trying to get my KDE Apps integrate better with GNOME, how can I get the KDE Apps icons appear properly inside my GNOME menu ?
[14:47] <corp> every time i try to apt-get install html2text ,it hangs
[14:47] <corp> any clue as to why?
[14:47] <kiosk> ade
[14:47] <jrib> Yaroze: you could always hack on ntfs-3g if you are truly desperate.  I don't think using "force" on backups is such a great idea though.  The man page warns against the use of "force"
[14:47] <dcabanis> Miro is full of good web tv
[14:47] <corp> the post install script seems to fail
[14:48] <erUSUL> dmsuperman: and you have effects on?
[14:48] <amanu> jrib:can you suggest me to solve my problem
[14:48] <luanluan> 3Q
[14:48] <theworld> does anyone have a good general reference for YellowDog
[14:48] <jlc> jrib, I tried loading th elink from the bot again, it only talks about running java, not installing.  lemme see if I get to it myself.
[14:48] <dmsuperman> erUSUL: I run "compiz --replace" and start it, but if I try to select "advanced" from the virual effects menu it says "the composite extension is not available"
[14:49] <jrib> jlc: what link are you reading exactly?
[14:49] <dmsuperman> erUSUL: The weird thing is, this worked last time I installed, and I've got the hardware to do it
[14:49] <diskin> Hi all, after upgade to hardy my laptop fan is allways on, however, frequency is changing ondemand as needed. Is it a known problem? I have AMD Turion CPU.
[14:50] <FPtje> !filesystem
[14:50] <jrib> amanu: you see all the "not installed" lines in your error?  You need to obtain the deb packages for those from your wubi install
[14:50] <amanu> jrib:cant i uninstall the error ones?
[14:50] <jlc> jrib, the only link that has anything to do with installation is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JavaInstallation and this does not talk about packages.
[14:51] <jrib> amanu: not easily.
[14:51] <dmsuperman> erUSUL: Any ideas?
[14:51] <erUSUL> dmsuperman: not really; sorry
[14:51] <zamba> i need a tv studio package both for streaming and direct viewing.. is anything like this available in open source?
[14:51] <jlc> jrib, when I open the link from the bot, here is where I go https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[14:51] <jrib> jlc: press ctrl-f in your browser and type "installing sun java"
[14:52] <jlc> jrib, phrase not found.
[14:52] <jrib> jlc: on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JavaInstallation ?
[14:53] <unrealix> Hi to all. Hwo can help me with disabling powermizer for 9600m GT ?
[14:53] <leonardo2008> hello people ;) I have a problem...I can access to my remote server only by IP, I already set uo etc/hosts and sites-available but nothing the virtual hosts dosen't work
[14:53] <FPtje> I always remeber my ip
[14:53] <FPtje> 94.209.34.154 all in my head
[14:53] <FPtje> I know my previous IP too
[14:53] <ikonia> leonardo2008 apache listens on hostnames for namebased hosts
[14:53] <student> connect irc.quakenet.org
[14:54] <FPtje> 82.157.123.191 :D
[14:54] <amanu> jrib:how can i get those dependencies from wubi if i copy this error and swith to wubi install we you help me
[14:54] <os2mac> what is the command to reload Gnome?
[14:54] <jrib> amanu: ok
[14:54] <zamba> FPtje: what's the point of this?
[14:54] <jrib> os2mac: system -> quit -> logout, then log back in
[14:54] <unrealix> Hi to all. Hwo can help me with disabling powermizer for 9600m GT ?
[14:55] <os2mac> if I could do that... I wouldn't be asking for a command.
[14:55] <os2mac> thanks though.
[14:55] <leonardo2008> ikonia tell me more about this please
[14:55] <amanu> jrib:ok thanks im rebooting to switch then see u
[14:55] <jrib> os2mac: gnome-session-save --kill
[14:55] <bastid_raZor> os2mac; sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart is one way too
[14:55] <ikonia> leonardo2008 apache listens for host headers containing a name - not an ip address in name based virtual hosting
[14:56] <gekkoo> anybody familiar with xmltv?
[14:56] <jlc> jrib, will you please just step me through installing whatever I need to get java to work in my browsers?
[14:57] <wp> How do i "ctrl-a and ctrl-c" in nano??
[14:57] <haidi> client quit
[14:57] <jrib> jlc: did you find "installing sun java" on the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JavaInstallation page?  The second line after that tells you the packages you need to install.  Quite frankly, this is a bit ridiculous
[14:58] <jim_p> wp: ctrl + insert = copy , shift + insert = paste. in all terminal apps
[14:59] <whatvn> hi! how can I connect to webserver on Lan?
[14:59] <jrib> jlc: and this is the first time you've mentioned your browser.
[14:59] <wp> thx jim_p what about ctrl-a?
[14:59] <tonyyarusso> whatvn: plug an ethernet cord into it?
[14:59] <jim_p> wp: no idea!
[14:59] <whatvn> :|
[14:59] <unrealix> Hi to all. Hwo can help me with disabling powermizer for 9600m GT ?
[14:59] <tonyyarusso> whatvn: and then choose a protocol.
[14:59] <Jeruvy> whatvn: pretty vague question...
[14:59] <whatvn> No
[14:59] <wp> jim_p: okay thx anyway
[15:00] <whatvn> certainly I know it
[15:00] <jim_p> wp you are welcome
[15:00] <whatvn> but when I type http://domain.com
[15:00] <jlc> jrib, the bot sends me to this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  there is no second line that tells me anything about packages, I have followed the link 5 times.  My very forst comment to you was that I needed help getting java to work in my breowser.
[15:00] <leonardo2008> ikonia, are you talking about for example... change the file in sites-availabe?
[15:00] <whatvn> it drives me to router manager :|
[15:00] <tonyyarusso> !enter | whatvn
[15:01] <kitche> jlc: install the java-plugin if you havenh't already
[15:01] <jlc> jrib, ok sorry, I guess I posted that message about a browser to the bot.
[15:01] <jrib> jlc: "I am trying to install java onto 8.04 x64 using sun's instructions."  "can someone please help me get java working on 8.04 x64"
[15:01] <whatvn> yes, when I type http://domain.com, I drives me to router manager
[15:01] <ikonia> leonardo2008 no, apache's default configuration is to just name based virtual hosting, that way it listens for a site name in the host headers to determain what site is shows
[15:01] <tonyyarusso> whatvn: So you're outside of the LAN, and using the public IP I take it.  In that case, you need to set up port forwarding on the router for port 80 (or whatever you've configured your web server for), and set a different remote management port for the router.  See portforward.com for some help on that.
[15:01] <jrib> jlc: anyway, there is no sun java plugin for amd64.  You need to use one of the open alternatives like gcjwebplugin or install a 32bit firefox
[15:02] <kritykal> hi
[15:02] <whatvn> when I'm outside Lan, I connect ok. But when I'm online, I can't!
[15:02] <kritykal> can someone help me
[15:02] <kritykal> i've got big problems
[15:02] <tyranos> kritykal, what kinda problems
[15:02] <kritykal> my firefox is always hangs in ubuntu
[15:02] <tonyyarusso> !ask | kritykal
[15:02] <tonyyarusso> bah, too late.
[15:03] <jlc> jrib, gcj didn't work, and I have installed 32 bit fox.
[15:03] <kritykal> i have installed
[15:03] <kritykal> some plugins
[15:03] <kritykal> for firefox in ubuntu
[15:03] <tyranos> in one line plz
[15:03] <jrib> jlc: how did you install 32bit firefox?
[15:03] <kritykal> such as gnash etc
[15:03] <jrib> !enter | kritykal
[15:03] <kritykal> oh okey sorry for that
[15:03] <kritykal> bad habit
[15:04] <whatvn> when I'm outside Lan, I connect ok. But when I'm online, I can't! How can I connect to web server when I'm on Lan?
[15:04] <_Zeus_> whoa, what?
[15:04] <_Zeus_> reexplain?
[15:04] <kritykal> its different when im using xp my firefox aren't hangs
[15:04] <tonyyarusso> whatvn: That's not particularly clear - could you put it another way, and with some more details about your addressing and architecture?
[15:04] <cube>  how do i rebuild software sources? I
[15:04] <Klonoa> o.o
[15:04] <jrib> !source > cube
[15:05] <Jerusalem420> if i want a script to be continually executed every 5 minutes, how do i do that?
[15:05] <jrib> cube: wait.  Do you mean sources.list?
[15:05] <_Zeus_> Jerusalem420: cron
[15:05] <tyranos> kritykal, i think u have to install adobe' s flash
[15:05] <jlc> jrib, I just checked, my Firefox under this login looks to be the 64 bit version.  How do I install the 32 bit version system wide?
[15:05] <jrib> !cron > Jerusalem420
[15:05] <cube> jrib yes i screwed mine up by stupidly editing it manualy and endcoding it wrong
[15:05] <kritykal> aha yes i have installed it
[15:05] <leonardo2008> ikonia, I have a domain but I don't get it how to connect with my remote server I was thinking to change a few params of apche2
[15:05] <jrib> !flash64 > jlc
[15:05] <jrib> cube: just use System -> Administration -> Software Sources
[15:06] <Jerusalem420> ty to everyone who replied
[15:06] <whatvn> I set up a web server, and anyone on internet can connect to it through public Ip, but I'm on Lan, I cant connect to webserver, view website, or ssh. How can I connect to my web server using http://myserver.com?
[15:06] <yadu> i am not able to use rhythmbox... wen i try to play, it s showing "playback failed... failed to connect stream".. why is this?
[15:06] <jrib> cube: delete the stuff you manually added first of course
[15:06] <cube> jrib: the problem is I curropted mine by editing it wrong so its unreadable
[15:06] <_Zeus_> whatvn: not sure, but you could use the local ip
[15:06] <amanulla> jrib:im back in wubi install
[15:06] <wp> anyone knows how to ctrl-a in nano?
[15:06] <jrib> wp: press ctrl-a?  I don't understand your question
[15:06] <amanulla> jrib:if i create a new user there will it solve my problem?
[15:07] <tonyyarusso> whatvn: what are the relations in addressing?
[15:07] <jrib> amanulla: no, do you have your error message there?
[15:07] <os2mac> jrib: the reason I had to do that was that for some reason the calendar app on the desktop keeps hanging my desktop. I can utilize programs already open but can't access the desktop applications. also /etc/ini.d/gdm restart hung.
[15:07] <amanulla> jrib:yes
[15:07] <_Zeus_> whatvn: you are best off using the local ip
[15:07] <whatvn> I add to /etc/host this line: 127.0.0.1 myserver.com, but still can't connect
[15:07] <jrib> amanulla: can you pastebin it one more time for me please?
[15:07] <wp> jrib: i need to make all the text black... don't know what it is called in english, but so I am able to copy it all afterwards
[15:07] <jlc> jrib, thanks, I'll work on it.
[15:07] <tonyyarusso> whatvn: um, 127.0.0.1 is the loopback to your current machine.
[15:07] <jrib> wp: select all?
[15:08] <amanulla> jrib:sure
[15:08] <wp> jrib: year
[15:08] <tyranos> whatvn, it also happens if you have both wifi and lan active
[15:08] <whatvn> No, I just have Lan
[15:08] <tyranos> and try replacing 127.0.0.1 with a network ip adress
[15:08] <kritykal> a gateway?
[15:08] <cube> jrib: do you know how I could get a new source list?
[15:08] <JCA_> hi can anyone help me with an Apt.get issue?
[15:09] <tonyyarusso> you shouldn't have to edit your hosts file at all if things are done properly
[15:09] <_Zeus_> cube: i could pastebin one
[15:09] <cube> _zeus_ if you think that would work thankyou very much i will do it
[15:09] <_Zeus_> cube: it should, hang on
[15:09] <whatvn> I tried, my network Ip is 10.0.06, when I changed it, same!
[15:09] <jrib> cube: first step: did you delete what you manually added?  Do you know how to do that?
[15:09] <histo> Whats the difference between a symbolic link and a hard link? I just installed mpd and now I want to add a link to my music in mpd's default music directory.
[15:09] <amanulla> jrib:here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/57025/
[15:09] <tyranos> whatvn, ping 10.0.0.6
[15:09] <jrib> cube: make sure you have the same ubuntu version as _Zeus_
[15:09] <amanulla> jim_p:are you there?
[15:10] <jim_p> amanulla: here i am!
[15:10] <cube> jrib: yes i deleted the line i added but stupidy i saved it not using the right editor (lol i think i used open office)
[15:10] <FPtje> Can anyone here start a pm session? I need help partitioning my disk for ubuntu!
[15:10] <FPtje> I get errors
[15:10] <whatvn> tyranos: reply all, no packet losted
[15:10] <cube> _zeus_ do you have 8.041 amd 64?
[15:10] <kritykal> anyone thanks for replied
[15:10] <_Zeus_> cube: the amd64 part doesn't matter
[15:10] <JCA_> Hi all, ive removed apache2 and php5 and purged the /etc/apache2 folder and now when i reinstall apache2 the configuration files are still missing. how to fix? Thanks.
[15:10] <kritykal> now i want to read an ubuntu book
[15:11] <trilobit`>  How can one remove lines from a file FILE1 when these lines are present in another file FILE2? The wanted are the lines in FILE1 that are not present in FILE2. Any ideas ?
[15:11] <kritykal> that's better
[15:11] <FPtje> Guys could anyone help?
[15:11] <tyberion> anyone here running an external soundcard (USB)???????
[15:11] <whatvn> kritykal: I will when my problem solved!
[15:11] <tonyyarusso> JCA_: did you --purge or just delete stuff manually?
[15:11] <kritykal> what is your problem
[15:11] <kritykal> tell me
[15:11] <kritykal> i hope i can help you
[15:11] <_Zeus_> cube: http://paste.ubuntu.com/57026/
[15:12] <JCA_> i did a purge
[15:12] <wp> how do i select all the text in nano?
[15:12] <tyranos> whatvn, have you tried typing   http://10.0.0.6 in your browser
[15:12] <_Zeus_> wp: use the mouse
[15:12] <kri> the torrent works now
[15:12] <whatvn> sure: I set up a web server, everything ok. But when I'm on Lan, I can connect to it using hhtp://myserver.com
[15:12] <kritykal> oh yes
[15:12] <kri> now lets get rtorrent to work
[15:12] <kritykal> use the mouse
[15:12] <kri> :)
[15:12] <wp> _Zeus_ to much text
[15:12] <tonyyarusso> JCA_: possibly use install --reinstall.
[15:12] <kritykal> that's easy
[15:12] <whatvn> tyranos: I did it
[15:12] <histo> nvm I found an article on the difference
[15:12] <JCA_> tonyyarusso: ok thanks
[15:12] <whatvn> but same problem
[15:12] <_Zeus_> wp: eh?
[15:12] <kritykal> hey whatvn
[15:12] <kritykal> is it
[15:13] <kritykal> maybe your router caused the problem
[15:13] <andresmh> is there a way to save login information in the terminal like SecureCRT does? I know I could use keys but that requires putting a file on the remote server which I don't want to do.
[15:13] <jrib> amanulla: we'll just try doing one package so you get the idea (and so we make sure it will work and you don't waste your time).  So let's get the libkpimexchange1 package first.  First, check if you have the deb for that already in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[15:13] <rapha> If I use the internet from a public WLAN, and want to have a secure connection, then is a VPN what I need (I do have a server on the net with which I think it should be possible to set one up). Or should I be looking for something else?
[15:13] <wp> _Zeus_ there is a lot of text and If i had to select it all with the mouse it would take me hours
[15:13] <whatvn> kritykal: and?
[15:13] <tonyyarusso> whatvn: Okay, let me spell this out....  What is your current machine's IP address?  What is the web server's IP address?  What type of router are you running?  What is the domain name?
[15:13] <_Zeus_> use cat filename > new filename
[15:13] <cube> _zeus_: it didn't work but thanks for trying that
[15:13] <kritykal> aha thats better tonyyarusso
[15:13] <_Zeus_> ok...
[15:13] <kritykal> follow him whatvn
[15:14] <whatvn> tonyarusso: just one!
[15:14] <wp> _Zeus_ I have to copy it into my browser
[15:14] <JCA_> tonyyarusso: hmm how, is it an option of apt-get? cant get it to work
[15:14] <_Zeus_> wp: use gedit
[15:14] <cube> isn't there a way for me to rebuild the list in terminal?
[15:14] <kritykal> yeah use gedit
[15:14] <amanulla> jrib:ok
[15:14] <tonyyarusso> JCA_: should be, ie 'apt-get install --reinstall apache2'
[15:14] <JCA_> tonyyarusso: oh now i got it
[15:14] <jrib> cube: nope, did _Zeus_'s sources.list not work?
[15:15] <tyberion> anyone here using an external soundcard (USB),need recommendation :/???????
[15:15] <whatvn> tonyarusso: just one! what's problem?
[15:15] <titan_> Ok, I just installed NVidia 177.80 drivers and I have my x server running and such. It just won't let me change the resolution from 640X480... any suggestions?
[15:15] <jrib> titan_: try nvidia-settings
[15:15] <titan_> ok, thanks
[15:15] <cube> jrib: nope it didn't and the thing is i have my source list (the original) and it just won't work now because i saved it wrong
[15:15] <kritykal> I THINK YOU HAVE MISCONFIGURED YOUR WEB SERVER WHATVN
[15:15] <_Zeus_> !caps
[15:15] <histo> I'm trying to get mpd going i've created the db and opened up gmpc but there is nothing playing? How do i get this going? If i click browse file sytem no songs are showing up.
[15:15] <jim_p> titan_: what gpu do you have and why did you install the drivers from the package that nvidia provides?
[15:15] <JCA_> tonyyarusso: no, still no conf files in apache2
[15:15] <jrib> cube: ok, where is your original?
[15:16] <jrib> JCA_, tonyyarusso: apache2-common or some such
[15:16] <whatvn> tonyarusso: I used just one computer, router has Ip 10.0.0.2, my computer 10.0.0.6, my domain is http://whatvn.mine.nu
[15:16] <tonyyarusso> whatvn: Just one WHAT?
[15:16] <cube> jrib: its source.list in my etc/apt
[15:16] <wp> _Zeeus_ If i use aGUI to open that much text I cannot get any work done... my com is to slow... that is the reason I asked for selecting text in nano
[15:16] <amanulla> jrib:yes i found  file:///var/cache/apt/archives/libkpimexchange1_4%253a3.5.9-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[15:16] <jrib> cube: what did you mean by you "saved it wrong"?
[15:16] <tonyyarusso> JCA_: That's a good point - check the various other apache packages - not sure exactly which it might be.
[15:16] <_Zeus_> wp: well, you're out of luck
[15:16] <jrib> amanulla: hrmm.  And that is something you copied over?
[15:16] <tyranos> tonyyarusso, he means webserver is running on the same machine
[15:17] <whatvn> tonyarusso: I used just one computer, router has Ip 10.0.0.2, my computer 10.0.0.6, my domain is http://whatvn.mine.nu
[15:17] <titan_> jim_p I have the GeForce 8800 GTX... and I didn't install it from the package nvidia provides, I installed it with Synaptic, I guess I just forgot to install nvidia-settings with it >.<
[15:17] <cube> jrib: as i said before i edited with openoffice so it encoded it
[15:17] <amanulla> jrib:yes
[15:17] <jrib> cube: oh.  Open it with openoffice, copy the text and paste it into gedit
[15:17] <andresmh> why is it that this doesn't seem to add the key of the opera repository: sudo wget -O - http://deb.opera.com/archive.key | sudo apt-key add -
[15:17] <andresmh> I got that command from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[15:18] <cube> ok i will let you know if it works thanks
[15:18] <Jerusalem420> cron makes since, but whats the correct syntax for running a script every 5 minutes
[15:18] <jrib> amanulla: so maybe my first guess was wrong.  How did you install the debs after you copied them?
[15:18] <tyranos> whatvn, and u can' t acces ur server from inside your home network , but it works if you re  somewhere else ? am i right ?
[15:18] <tonyyarusso> whatvn: and if you remove all of the stuff you've added to your hosts file or anything else, you're still ending up at your router's config via that domain?
[15:18] <bastid_raZor> Jerusalem420; man cron will give you all the info you need
[15:18] <jrib> andresmh: is there any output?
[15:18] <andresmh> I'm getting  GPG error: http://deb.opera.com stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 033431536A423791
[15:18] <whatvn> yes, sure!
[15:19] <andresmh> jrib: yes, the output looks ok
[15:19] <JCA_> tonyyarusso: hmm its not apache2.2-common trying som others
[15:19] <wp> _Zeus_ are you saying that it is impossible to select all in nano??
[15:19] <andresmh> jrib: It shows Connecting... Saving to STDOUT.... 100%
[15:19] <_Zeus_> wp: AFAIK
[15:19] <cube> jrib: yes it did work fine thanks man
[15:19] <andresmh> and finally it shows OK jrib
[15:19] <whatvn> tonyyarusso: now you can connect to my computer using that domain, but I can't.
[15:19] <_Zeus_> wp: you could try something like echo file > /dev/pts/n
[15:19] <jrib> Jerusalem420, bastid_raZor: at least give specific man pages if you give a man page. Jerusalem420: you 'man 5 crontab' tells you how to do that.   The syntax should be */5
[15:19] <_Zeus_> that might work
[15:20] <tonyyarusso> whatvn: Is your router set up to go to the config screen for all local access, and portforward external access?
[15:20] <andresmh> jrib: but then when I try apt-get update I get that GPG error
[15:20] <jrib> andresmh: and now 'sudo apt-get update'?
[15:20] <Baltazar2> Anyone here good with iptables, I have a question about a very short script
[15:20] <wp> _Zeus_ /dev/pts/n is?
[15:20] <Jeruvy> andresmh: that just means a key isn't available on the public key servers.
[15:20] <amanulla> jrib:shall i have to copy that and go there
[15:20] <jlc> jrib, those instructions are for a ".gz" file and the Firefox download from the link on the page is a ".bz2" file.  the line "tar -zxf firefox-2.0.0.14.tar.gz" does not work.
[15:20] <_Zeus_> wp: where the app is running
[15:20] <jrib> andresmh: does 'sudo apt-key list' show the key?
[15:20] <tonyyarusso> whatvn: also, what happens if you used the IP address instead?  (125.234.88.129)
[15:20] <andresmh> jrib: when I do sudo apt-get update a lot of things get updated but at the end I get:
[15:20] <_Zeus_> wp: never mind, you can only do that with consoles
[15:20] <andresmh> jrib:  GPG error: http://deb.opera.com stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 033431536A423791
[15:20] <titan_> well I got nvidia-settings installed, but the resolution is so low I can't select the things I want in nvidia-settings... it just keeps moving the window on me.
[15:20] <jrib> jlc: you need to use whatever the current version of firefox is
[15:21] <wp> _Zeus_ okay
[15:21] <whatvn> wait for me a minute!
[15:21] <_Zeus_> wp: you can't use nano
[15:21] <wp> _Zeus_ :( any other non-gui text editor?
[15:21] <Jerusalem420> thanks all. by
[15:21] <jrib> amanulla: so maybe my first guess was wrong.  How did you install the debs after you copied them?
[15:21] <Jerusalem420> bye even
 It gets me to router manager
[15:21] <_Zeus_> wp: how often could you have to do this?!
[15:21] <_Zeus_> just open gedit for once
[15:22] <tonyyarusso> whatvn: sounds like you have a weird configuration on your router.
[15:22] <amanulla> jrib:or any thing else left here to do if you tell what to do with one hope i may continue the same with rest of all
[15:22] <wp> _Zeus_ one time... the file is so big that am not able to make the select all command in a GUI-text editor :(
[15:22] <jrib> wp: do you want to just use vim?
[15:22] <andresmh> Jeruvy: so that means the opera people don't have their public key posted? wouldn't that show an errror when doing the wget?
 I use Cnet Ethernet router, how can I rollback what I did?
[15:22] <_Zeus_> jrib: can he select all in vi?
[15:22] <sqawarlz> !devicemanager
[15:22] <tonyyarusso> whatvn: I don't know - read your manual for it.
[15:23] <jrib> _Zeus_: yep
[15:23] <sqawarlz> How can I view the hardware in my system in Ubuntu?
[15:23] <diskin> Hi all, after upgade to hardy my laptop fan is allways on, however, frequency is changing ondemand as needed. Is it a known problem? I have AMD Turion CPU.
[15:23] <_Zeus_> wp: well, there ya go
[15:23] <jlc> jrib, the error I get is not related to the version, it is related to the different file format, ".bz2" vice "gz"
[15:23] <amanulla> jrib:with command i cant remember exactly but something like this sudo ....  - i *.deb
[15:23] <DJones> whatvn: Are you able to access the webserver by going to http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (the internal ip address of the computer with the webserver on it)?
[15:23] <bastid_raZor> wp; vim has an awesome tutor that will aid you in using vim
[15:23] <jrib> jlc: just use 'tar xf whatever_file'
[15:23] <wp> jrib: if I am able to select all in there? then yes... and how do I select all in vim?
 ok, thank for your advice. <DJones>: I can't
[15:23] <amanulla> jrib:ohh i cant remember because some one said me in channel
[15:23] <Jeruvy> andresmh: perhaps, depends on options.  Regardless you should be able to ignore the error and move on.  Verifying or adding the key will have to be done manually
[15:24] <amanulla> jrib:yes i got it
[15:24] <jrib> wp: join me in #ubuntu-classroom so we don't get lost in here
[15:24] <sqawarlz> ﻿How can I view the hardware in my system in Ubuntu?
[15:24] <wp> jrib: okay
[15:24] <trilobit`>  How can one remove lines from a file ALLENTRIES when these lines are present in another file SOMEENTRIES? The wanted are the lines in ALLENTRIES that are not present in SOMEENTRIES. Any ideas ?
[15:24] <DJones> whatvn: oh, ok.  I had a similar sounding problem but I was able to access the webserver by using the ip address
[15:24] <jlc> jrib, the error is "gzip: stdin: not in gzip format"
 I received bad request (400 status)
[15:24] <wp> thx everyone for the help so fare
[15:24] <amanulla> jrib:sudo dpkg -i /path/to/*.deb this one
[15:24] <limitedwisdom> anyone still here that was helping me with the communication issues between linux and windows?
[15:24] <jrib> jlc: what command did you run?
[15:24] <bastid_raZor> sqawarlz; lspci is one way to view what is connected to pci slots
[15:25] <jim_p> limitedwisdom: can you repeat please?
 you are lucky :D
[15:25] <disco> Hello
[15:25] <jrib> amanulla: alright, can you get back in ubuntu (not wubi) so we can check some things out?
[15:25] <jlc> jrib, tar -zxf firefox-3.0.3.tar.bz2
[15:25] <limitedwisdom> well, I'll actually just ask a more specific question :)
[15:25] <disco> For NetworkManager problems, is there a dedicated irc channel ?
[15:25] <DJones> whatvn: Sounds like somoethinig different to the problem I had, if it had been the same as my problem I'd have been able to suggest something, but your problem sounds strange, sorry about that
[15:25] <amanulla> jrib:ok sure with that copy of .deb
[15:26] <amanulla> or just alone
[15:26] <jrib> jlc: instead of '-zxf' just do 'xf'
[15:26] <histo> Is there a way to add all my songs to a playlist in mpd?
[15:26] <jlc> jrib, ok the -xf did not error.
[15:26] <jrib> amanulla: won't hurt to bring it in case we can save a reboot
[15:26] <limitedwisdom> what does it mean if tcpdump doesn't show anything when you attempt to telnet in on a specific port? When i telnet from one machine it works great (and shows several packets in tcpdump). when I telnet from the problem machine nothing shows up in tcpdump and it eventually times out it's request.
 nothing at all, maybe I must solved it my self. Thank for all of your reply :)
[15:26] <jlc> jrib, thanks.
[15:26] <limitedwisdom> (my problem is that the two machines aren't talking and I don't know why)
[15:27] <Omoikane_> When I launch kubuntu and when I punch in the password it just keeps loading the password login screen.
[15:27] <limitedwisdom> the two machines talk to everyone else on the network fine - just not each other
[15:27] <limitedwisdom> one is win the other is ubuntu server
[15:27] <jeezyme> hi, i just removed my nvidia gcard, so using my m/b's built-in graphics interface, how do i install its driver? its an intel dg33fb. am not able to use resolutions higher than 800X600
[15:27] <amanulla> jrib:just that one is enough or may i get all?
[15:27] <jrib> histo: you probably want to try #mpd for that one
[15:27] <ikonia> leonardo2008 no, the global apache config
[15:27] <disco> There is a strange problem with my NetworkManager on Ubuntu Hardy Hedron. Stage 3 is launched, that is, dhclient is started, and it get an IP successfully. However it looks like NetworkManager is never notified the IP has been caught. Anyone any idea what's going wrong ?
[15:28] <andresmh> how come when I go to  "Add/Remove Applications" > Internet > All available applications I don't see Opera? Despite the fact that this page implies I should see that http://www.ubuntu.com/news/opera9
[15:28] <DJones> OmIkRoNiXz: Which version of kubuntu is it? I had the same problem with the Intrepid beta and didn't manage to solve it
[15:28] <jrib> amanulla: up to you.  If it's not a big deal, then bring them all
[15:28] <DJones> Omoikane_: Which version of kubuntu is it? I had the same problem with the Intrepid beta and didn't manage to solve it
[15:28] <tonyyarusso> andresmh: do you have your sources set up to include the partner repo section?
[15:29] <amanulla> jrib:well im saving all in my partition so i can access there
[15:29] <Atax> Hi all, what variable has to be edited, so that for example the textfile: /usr/test/text-test would open, after pressing ALT+F2 and entering text-test?
[15:30] <andresmh> tonyyarusso: I have http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu intrepid partner listed on my "Third party Software" tab of Software Sources. is that what you mean?
[15:30] <jrib> andresmh: ah, good point
[15:30] <tonyyarusso> andresmh: #ubuntu+1 for intrepid questions please.
[15:30] <jrib> amanulla: ah, good point
[15:30] <Omoikane_> djones hardy
[15:31] <bunnyto> Wow works in Ubuntu!!!
[15:31] <amanulla> jrib:lol im mad because i wont even need to reboot to get *.deb because i can mount my wubi drive there
[15:31] <disco> There is a strange problem with my NetworkManager on Ubuntu Hardy Hedron. Stage 3 is launched, that is, dhclient is started, and it get an IP successfully. However it looks like NetworkManager is never notified the IP has been caught. Anyone any idea what's going wrong ?
[15:31] <disco> Anyway to debug NetworkManager ?
[15:31] <jeezyme> hi, i just removed my nvidia gcard, so using my m/b's built-in graphics interface, how do i install its driver? its an intel dg33fb. am not able to use resolutions higher than 800X600 :(
[15:32] <DJones> Omoikane_: right, sorry, I'm not sure how to solve it, you could try asking in #kubuntu as well
[15:32] <sqawarlz> Does anyone here using Remote Desktop on Ubuntu?
[15:32] <bunnyto> sqawarlz: i do
[15:32] <bunnyto> sqawarlz: works 200% perfect
[15:33] <sqawarlz> bunnyto, why does it attempt to reconnect when I specifically logoff or disconnect?
[15:33] <bunnyto> sqawarlz: you need to stop clicking "connect"
[15:33] <andresmh> is there a way to save ssh connection info on the terminal kind of like what SecureCRT does in windows?
[15:34] <sqawarlz> bunnyto, not what I mean. If i disconnect or logoff i get an error and it says it will reconnect it 30 seconds and i have to hit cancel
[15:34] <bunnyto> sqawarlz: you need to abort the autoconector
[15:34] <tonyyarusso> andresmh: what does SecureCRT do?
[15:34] <sqawarlz> bunnyto, I dont want to use the autoconnector.
[15:35] <highoct> anyone in here running or knows about enlightenment?
[15:35] <tonyyarusso> highoct: that's pretty vague.
[15:35] <bunnyto> i know enlightement
[15:36] <highoct> ok cool, here's the deal
[15:36] <andresmh> tonyyarusso: it's an SSH client that among other things it  saves login info, ssh tunneling and look&feel of each ssh connection all from a nice UI.
[15:36] <Anandhi> i want to get news on linux and open-source can u name the few sites
[15:36] <sqawarlz> bunnyto, you said remote desktop works 200%, which is false. So I take it you just put up with the problems with it.
[15:37] <highoct> the taskbar if u will (i don't know the proper term for it) but it's somehow auto hidding on startup, but when i mouse over the area or click it will not come back into view.
[15:37] <tonyyarusso> Anandhi: #ubuntu-offtopic for that please.
[15:37] <justin_> Anyone know of a good tutorial on how to swap my command and control keys on my macbook?
[15:37] <jrib> andresmh: use ~/.ssh/config
[15:37] <Atax> Hi all, what variable has to be edited, so that for example the textfile: /usr/test/text-test would open, after pressing ALT+F2 and entering text-test?
[15:37] <tyberion> hmss, anyboy can help me which external usb soundcard will work flawlessly with ubuntu??
[15:37] <amanu> hi
[15:37] <limitedwisdom> wow - truly wild: I just fixed it in the WEIRDEST way
[15:38] <amanu> jim_p:
 I rollback configuration, but i still can't connect to web server :|
[15:38] <amanu> jrib:im back
[15:39] <limitedwisdom> it turns out - in order to allow the two machines to talk you have to put everything about the windows machine in the ubuntu /etc/hosts file and ensure there is NOTHING about the unbuntu machine in the windows host file...
[15:39] <limitedwisdom> strange.
[15:39] <limitedwisdom> it works now - the two are playing nicely.
[15:41] <highoct> so has anyone ever had that problem before?
[15:41] <jrib> amanu: so you have internet on the ubuntu partition right?
[15:41] <amanu> yes
[15:41] <jrib> amanu: why were you copying over debs then?
[15:42] <amanu> jrib:because my net connection is slow and i want to save time by getting from there
[15:42] <limitedwisdom> ok, well - I'm off. Thanks for all the help gang :)
[15:42] <ikonia> amanu: you've been doing this for over 3 days, you would have saved your time by downloading them
[15:43] <amanu> jrib:if i think of installing all the same it may take some weeks
[15:43] <andresmh> how can I make the gnome terminal always open at certain window size?
[15:43] <amanu> ikonia:ohh you are back nice to see you
[15:44] <amanu> ikonia:plss try to get my problem it really takes much time else i have preffered that
[15:44] <Shane|Work> does anyone have any suggestions for how to boot a server install of Ubuntu into a ramdisk? in other words, I want my whole root partition of around ~1.2GB to load into ram entirely and then any further access will be to the ramdisk copy
[15:45] <aatk> andresmh: have you tried opening with -g?
[15:45] <nowimproved> how am I suppose to restart my internet, if i do ./etc/init.d/networking restart it does not come back up and I have to reboot
[15:45] <amanu> ikonia:any how as you said i stucked now even in a great problem which also involves a lot of time and useless tensions
[15:46] <jrib> amanu: a better way is to run apt-get with --print-uris --simulate and then use wget on wubi to download what it prints.  Then copy the debs back to /var/cache/apt/archives/ and then just use apt-get again
[15:47] <amanu> jrib:where to run this here in terminal? run apt-get with --print-uris --simulate
[15:48] <jrib> amanu: run whatever apt-get command you want with those two switches, then you would get a list of files that you need to download.  Of course, this will only work if your system is not already broken
[15:48] <jrib> amanu: or use apt-zip.  It's also made for this
[15:48] <nowimproved> could someone please help me set up my network, I am trying to use this computer as a router, I have two network cards in it
[15:49] <amanu> jrib:shall i run this now here in terminal?  apt-get with --print-uris
[15:49] <compengi> nowimproved, install firestarter and it would do the job
[15:49] <jrib> amanu: no as your install is currently broken
[15:50] <amanu> jrib:so what to run
[15:50] <jrib> amanu: I would just reinstall.  It will be faster than fixing this
[15:50] <amanu> jrib:you mean to reinstalll the ubuntu
[15:52] <mkartic> hi, am using an intel dg33fb mo/bo! the display is really aweful! :( can someone help?
[15:53] <jrib> amanu: yeah
[15:53] <nowimproved> compengi, it says eth0 is not ready
[15:53] <leeping2008> Is there a way I can see how many times I am SSH'd in a terminal?  e.g. do I have an SSH connection from A to B, then B back to A.. or have I not SSH'd at all?
[15:53] <leeping2008> (Other than hitting CTRL+D, of course!)
[15:53] <mkartic> anyone?
[15:53] <amanu> jrib:my cousin installed this system he made many partitions each for home ,var..all
[15:54] <amanu> jrib:if i need a fresh install which partiotion i have to replace
[15:54] <Dr3mro> hello i have a q? plz ... is it possible to have mac os x like menu bar in kde 4 like we had in kde 3.5
[15:54] <Dr3mro> hello i have a q? plz ... is it possible to have mac os x like menu bar in kde 4 like we had in kde 3.5
[15:54] <r00tintheb0x> w00t
[15:54] <jrib> amanu: I would replace everything that's not /home
[15:55] <amanu> jrib:so i manually have to delete all partitions except home ann have a freh install yes?
[15:56] <jrib> amanu: no, just tell your install where those partitions are and tell it to format everything but /home
[15:56] <mkartic> yoohoo? [am working in i640X480 now :| ]
[15:56] <r00tintheb0x> lol @ <jrib> amanu: I would replace everything that's not /home
[15:56] <r00tintheb0x> I remember when usling linux used to be hard.
[15:57] <Yaroze> r00tintheb0x: good times :D
[15:57] <r00tintheb0x> Right
[15:57] <amanu> jrib:everything but not home yes?
[15:57] <r00tintheb0x> Well "hard"
[15:57] <jrib> amanu: yeah
[15:57] <ikonia> gents could we take the walk down memory lane to #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[15:57] <r00tintheb0x> You didnt "apt-get install kernel-blahblahblah" to install a kernel.
[15:57] <ikonia> r00tintheb0x please.
[15:57] <r00tintheb0x> Ok ok.
[15:57] <r00tintheb0x> Sorry.
[15:57] <ikonia> thanks
[15:57] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[15:58] <slayton> UBUNTU
[15:58] <slayton> !
[15:58] <amanu> jrib:cant there be any alternative because i dont want to mess with my partitions because i havnt done it sofar
[15:58] <Dr3mro> hello i have a q? plz ... is it possible to have mac os x like menu bar in kde 4 like we had in kde 3.5
[15:59] <jrib> amanu: the alternative would take much longer as it's not really clear what is wrong
[15:59] <mkartic> hey how to stop compiz??
[15:59] <mgolisch> replace it with some other windowmanager @ mkartic
[15:59] <Yaroze> mkartic: System -> Settings -> Appearance -> Visual Effects
[15:59] <mkartic> thanks
[15:59] <jrib> \
[16:00] <amanu> jrib:i am afraid that i have much data with xp,many partitions may be im confused which to format because here in linux it shows partitions like "sda"
[16:01] <jrib> amanu: ask your cousin to help you
[16:01] <amanu> jrib:i cant even get which one is which partiotion
[16:01] <Is_907> I keep getting IO buffer errors on device sr0 when i try to install or even boot the livecd (8.04.1, i386, macbook)... i've tried burning several discs, some burned at slower rates, and checked the md5 of my ISO and nothing seems wrong. any ideas?
[16:01] <U-topix> coucou
[16:01] <amanu> jrib:ohh he is in banglore not here
[16:01] <snarkster> anyone in here used kvm before?
[16:01] <amanu> jrib:he is a worker
[16:02] <amanu> jrib:i mean he is in other state he cant come
[16:02] <Leo32> bom
[16:02] <Leo32> bom dia
[16:02] <jrib> !pt | Leo32
[16:02] <jrib> amanu: I don't see a feasible alternative to you reinstalling
[16:02] <amanu> jrib:i installed it when he came for recent holidays i think he wont come for few moths
[16:03] <osipov> #connect
[16:04] <amanu> jrib:if we help me to remove or re install one package i hope i will to the remaining can u pls
[16:04] <ikonia> amanu how are you going to re-install when you don't have an ubuntu cd ?
[16:04] <_coredump_> tach auch
[16:05] <amanu> ikonia: i will get it from my friend
[16:05] <ikonia> amanu I asked you to do that earlier and you said not possible
[16:05] <amanu> ikonia:can i get it now?
[16:05] <ikonia> amanu: I don't konw if you can get it now
[16:05] <ikonia> amanu: I dont' know where you friend is
[16:05] <amanu> ikonia:oh sorry
[16:06] <amanu> ikonia:i will get it now can u pls help me?
[16:06] <dmsuperman_> I can't get my machine to get an IP through DHCP
[16:06] <nowimproved> im using firestarter and it says Internal network device eth0 is not ready. Aborting..
[16:06] <dmsuperman_> Not even a livecd can get an IP
[16:06] <dmsuperman_> It just started this morning
[16:06] <dmsuperman_> But another machine can get an IP
[16:06] <ccie> irc://irc.abjects.net/beast-xdccirc://irc.abjects.net/beast-xdcc
[16:07] <dmsuperman_> How might I determine if it's a network issue vs. my hardware? The mobo is literally 5 days old
[16:07] <dmsuperman_> The mobo has 2 nic cards and neither work
[16:07] <ikonia> amanu: how can you get it, you said he was in another state
[16:07] <matthias1> bei einer VM muss man die treiber nich instaliern oder?
[16:08] <amanu> ikonia:not that one hes my cousin who installed my system i get it from my college friend
[16:08] <tyberion> hmm, is anyone here using an external sound card, usb that is?????
[16:08] <ikonia> amanu again - you have miss-lead me
[16:08] <ikonia> amanu: I told you to get it earlier and you said not possible
[16:08] <DJones> !de | matthias1
[16:08] <amanu>  ikonia:yesterday i said not possible now
[16:08] <compengi> matthias1, Sie könnten Ihre Fragen im #ubuntu-de kannal fragen :)
[16:09] <amanu> ikonia:not now means in the sence it was a little bit late for me to go to his house
[16:10] <Is_907> any ideas why when i boot the livecd and installer for 8.04.1 i get io buffer errors on device sr0? i know my ISO is clean (md5 checked out) and this is the third cd i've burned
[16:10] <amanu>  ikonia:man im stucked with a problem i dont want to cheat any one or do any thing else just i want to get my problem solved
[16:11] <amanu> ikonia:why are you thinking like that i cant get
[16:11] <ikonia> amanu I don't wish to discuss this any futher you change your story with every minute
[16:11] <amanu> ikonia:its ok leave it
[16:11] <ikonia> ok
[16:12] <compengi> nice ending. :P
[16:12]  * greencookie claps.
[16:13] <dmsuperman_> I can't get an IP or connection on either of my NICs. This started this morning. I restored to a backup that did work before, still doesn't. I tried a livecd, still no.
[16:14] <snarkster> dead nic?
[16:14] <dmsuperman_> snarkster: Two separate nics
[16:14] <ikonia> dmsuperman_ dead cable
[16:14] <dmsuperman_> snarkster: Neither work
[16:14] <wendico> hello, how can i hide the entering and leaving irc room messages from pidgin?
[16:14] <Lynet> dmsuperman_: Dead dhcp-server?
[16:14] <ikonia> dmsuperman_: is there a link light on the nics
[16:14] <cypr1nus> hi, is there any AWK manual exept of manual? any book?
[16:14] <freakazoid> lightning lighnting, oi so frightning
[16:14] <freakazoid> ;p
[16:15] <indian_munnda_> cypr1nus: there are many manuals availble on the net
[16:15] <ikonia> cypr1nus oreilly
[16:15] <compengi> wendico, this is ubuntu support channel. try asking in #pidgin
[16:15] <Lynet> cypr1nus: o'reilly has lots of books on stuff like that.
[16:15] <wendico> compengi: ohh, ok, tx
[16:15] <indian_munnda_> cypr1nus: try on this one www.ebookee.com
[16:15] <dmsuperman_> ikonia: They are
[16:15] <RickZilla> Any GIMP users on ubuntu have any luck using the Photoshop filter plugin? http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimpuserfilter/
[16:16] <_Zeus_> no
[16:16] <ikonia> dmsuperman_ do a tail -f /var/log/syslog - take the cable out, plug it back in see what you get
[16:16] <Omoikane_> When I launch kubuntu and when I punch in the password it just keeps loading the password login screen.
[16:16] <dmsuperman_> ikonia: One sec
[16:17] <Lynet> dmsuperman_: It probably one of two things. Either a wiring problem, or the dhcp server (usually on your broadband modem) is awol.
[16:17] <legend2440> Is_907: http://www.rebelzero.com/hardware/hardy-heron-and-the-dvd-rom-conundrum/6
[16:17] <dmsuperman_> Lynet: This is at work, everybody else has an IP
[16:17] <FD_F> hello i cant record voice not in sound recorder and not on skype- i check the connection is ok also on alsamixer is ok i  also tested the mic on other computer, any suggestions ?
[16:17] <dmsuperman_> Lynet: In fact, I plugged in a small switch into the wall, and plugged this machine and that broken machine into it
[16:17] <dmsuperman_> Lynet: This machine gets an IP, the other one doesn't
[16:18] <dmsuperman_> Lynet: I've tried two separate nics, and 2 separates ethernet cables, in 2 separate wall outlets
[16:18] <Is_907> legend2440: thanks x_x i hope that's not the problem... my MacBook is hard to take apart ;)
[16:18] <wendico> how do i create a user without password? i get i need a 6 char password message when creating an account.
[16:18] <Lynet> dmsuperman_: Hmm.. Is the 'broken' machine set to use dhcp to get an ip address?
[16:18] <compengi> FD_F, did you check if it's not muted in Volume Control?
[16:18] <dmsuperman_> Lynet: Yes, and I've tried with static
[16:19] <compengi> wendico, useradd <user> then passwd <yourpass>
[16:19] <FD_F> compengi: yes
[16:19] <compengi> wendico, sorry passwd <user>, then set a password
[16:19] <nowimproved> hi when I open firestarter it says Internal network device eth0 is not ready. Aborting..
[16:20] <Lynet> dmsuperman_: Hmm. You sure there is no fancy security stuff going on? e.g., 802.1x authentication.
[16:20] <dmsuperman_> Lynet: I'm fairly certain
[16:20] <Omoikane_> When I launch kubuntu and when I punch in the password it just keeps loading the password login screen.
[16:20] <dmsuperman_> Lynet: The tail on syslog only said "link down" then "link up"
[16:20] <Omoikane_> over and over
[16:20] <FD_F> compengi: do you mean alsamixer in volume control ?
[16:20] <wendico> if i sudo useradd user and i do not set a password, does it that account works with a blank password?
[16:20] <snarkster> dmsuperman had a lightening storm maybe??
[16:21] <dmsuperman_> snarkster: No
[16:21] <snarkster> hmm im out then
[16:21] <compengi> FD_F, volume control
[16:21] <indian_munnda_> Omoikane_: have u checked whether u r entering the correct passed or not.
[16:21] <Lynet> dmsuperman_: Hmm. That would rule out wiring problems or driver problem. Do you get any dhcp stuff in the log?
[16:21] <compengi> wendico, no. it won't work
[16:21] <FD_F> compengi: physical ? or by command ?
[16:21] <dmsuperman_> Lynet: DHCPDISCOVER like 6 times
[16:21] <compengi> FD_F, from your gnome panal
[16:21] <compengi> panel*
[16:22] <dmsuperman_> Lynet: Registering new address for the mac on the machine
[16:22] <Omoikane_> indian_munnda yes, it the correct pass.
[16:22] <wendico> compengi: then i have to set a blank password, right?
[16:22] <dmsuperman_> Lynet: Then nothing
[16:22] <FD_F> compengi: the sound is ok only the record not working
[16:22] <compengi> wendico, every user should have a pass
[16:22] <ben> hey guys. I have been trying to get a dual boot set up and my windoz disk does not see a hard drive
[16:22] <dmsuperman_> Lynet: No DHCPOFFERS received
[16:22] <greencookie> ben: is it in ext2/3 format?
[16:22] <fortran> multisite
[16:23] <fortran> multisite?
[16:23] <dmsuperman_> Lynet: Is it then a DHCP issue?
[16:23] <fortran> multi_site?
[16:23] <compengi> FD_F, i understood that part. you need to check if you got microphone or line-in muted in volume controler
[16:23] <fortran> Where is the documentation for a Drupal multisite?
[16:23] <wendico> so, if every user has to have a password, how do i acomplish this "grantt hat user sudo access without a password to the command you want to do" ?
[16:23] <Lynet> dmsuperman_: That is weird. If the other machine on the same switch gets dhcp, that's really weird.
[16:23] <dmsuperman_> Lynet: I know, I'm baffled as well
[16:23] <tonyyarusso> fortran: ask #drupal-support
[16:23] <greencookie> wendico: homework? :P
[16:24] <dmsuperman_> Lynet: Normally I'd say it's the fault of hardware, or config, but it's new hardware, and I've tried a second of _everything_, including from livecd
[16:24] <fortran> tonyyarusso, oh crap man. I thought I was on drupal-support. lol I feel like a moron. Sorry - cheers!
[16:24] <Lynet> dmsuperman_: Wiring, drivers sounds ok. But it sounds like for some reason that the pc is unable to talk to the dhcp server.
[16:24] <wendico> lol, no, actually im a nerd microsoft enginier trying to do something in linux xDD
[16:24] <dmsuperman_> Lynet: It makes me believe the network is wonky, but then again who am I to know how the netadmin runs things
[16:24] <deathtech> Heya guys, i would like to run my console framebuffered. Im told this may require a kernel recompile. Im cool with that, and it doesnt scare me by any means (Windows Admin testing linux Waters) but would like to get an opinion of a professional, (or a least someone whom has done it ) What do i need to do to get framebuffer support in console mode ?
[16:24] <indian_munnda_> Omoikane_: i think yo need to reinstall kdm.
[16:24] <compengi> wendico, public users shouldn't have "sudo" or root access. if you want a user to have it, add him in /etc/sudoers list
[16:25] <compengi> wendico, "user" is different from "root"
[16:25] <wendico> compengi: but i want them to have sudo access only for one command
[16:25] <Lynet> dmsuperman_: Have you tried switching around the network cables? That is, connect the 'broken' PC's cable to the port that the known working machine is using?
[16:25] <dmsuperman_> Lynet: Yup.
[16:25] <grizzlo42> hi i am running a fresh hardy install, and it doesn't show the list of available wireless networks in network manager, is there a way to make it do so?
[16:25] <wendico> compengi: it is a command to initialize his 3G card
[16:25] <hotmonkeyluv> I have an .iso of a game (the CD), and I want to install it in wine, how would I do that? I think I need to mount it as a virtual disk, and then use wine, but perhaps I might have to use a virtual disk program in wine? Gah! i'm confused! help!
[16:25] <RickZilla> Any GIMP users on ubuntu have any luck using the Photoshop filter plugin? http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimpuserfilter/
[16:26] <compengi> wendico, i have no idea what are you talking about
[16:26] <wendico> compengi: lol
[16:26] <Lynet> dmsuperman_: Very weird indeed. Only thing I can think of is some sort of security either on the switch or dhcp server that blocks unknown network cards.
[16:26] <atlef> hotmonkeyluv: try acetoniso to mount the iso
[16:26] <jrib> wendico: man sudoers   (search for NOPASSWD).  Poke me if you are still not sure after reading that
[16:26] <Omoikane_> indian_munnda what is KDM?
[16:26] <ndube> kde desktop manager
[16:27] <wendico> compengi: actually im trying to solve a difficult step in my ubuntu, and nobody helps me with a step by step, so i have to ask so many things...
[16:27] <atlef> hotmonkeyluv: sorry acetoneiso is the name
[16:27] <indian_munnda_> Omoikane_: kde environment
[16:27] <kskrilla> Hello and i have a question about ./Configure. when i try to compile the unsupported compiz fusion plugins
[16:27] <kskrilla> it says ./configure doesn't exsits
[16:27] <wendico> jrib: ill serch por nopasswd
[16:27] <kskrilla> or no file
[16:27] <kitche> kskrilla: probably because it doesn't
[16:27] <dmsuperman_> kskrilla: Most compiz plugins have no configure file
[16:27] <indian_munnda_> Omoikane_: havew to tried to login using another account
[16:27] <hotmonkeyluv> atlef:  ok, thanks!
[16:27] <jrib> kskrilla: linux is case-sensitive
[16:27] <dmsuperman_> kskrilla: Just try "make" then "sudo make install"
[16:28] <kskrilla> can someone explain what im doing wrong when trying to compile it when the configure.ac file is located in the same dir that im typing ./configure
[16:28] <jrib> kskrilla: most software usually has a README or INSTALL file
[16:28] <kitche> kskrilla: because configure.ac is not configure
[16:28] <watters> ello
[16:28] <Omoikane_> indian_munnda I don't have any other accounts.
[16:29] <wendico> buff, i cannot believe that running a 3G card with no root privileges could be so difficult, it has to be other way, im gonna explain my problem again to see if im on the right path
[16:29] <Lynet> kskrilla: You probably have to do automake first. Most source packages have an INSTALL/README that lists the steps needed to compile.
[16:29] <deathtech> Heya guys, i would like to run my console framebuffered. Im told this may require a kernel recompile. Im cool with that, and it doesnt scare me by any means (Windows Admin testing linux Waters) but would like to get an opinion of a professional, (or a least someone whom has done it ) What do i need to do to get framebuffer support in console mode ?
[16:29] <grizzlo42> i have a Atheros AR5212, does ubuntu support that?
[16:29] <atlef> hotmonkeyluv: get it here http://www.getdeb.net/search.php?keywords=acetoneiso
[16:29] <indian_munnda_> Omoikane_: ok then create one and try that first
[16:29] <kitche> deathtech: should be framebuffered already actually
[16:30] <kitche> deathtech: since it's used for usplash
[16:30] <jrib> deathtech: I didn't need to recompile my kernel.  I just added vga=FOO to my kernel line in menu.lst
[16:30] <indian_munnda_> Omoikane_: i think u know how to create that]
[16:30] <Omoikane_> indian_munnda How do I create one?
[16:30] <hotmonkeyluv> atlef:  sweet, thank you very much!
[16:30] <jrib> deathtech: vga=FOO will let you make the resolution a decent one
[16:30] <grizzlo42> hello?
[16:31] <indian_munnda_> Omoikane_: go to command line mode first using ctrl+alt+f1
[16:31] <ndube> hello
[16:31] <deathtech> Yeah , when i boot up and swap to a diff tty (ctrl+alt+f1) for console mode, its not FBuffered, jrib VGA=F00 ? i was using like 775 , wasnt aware it was diff
[16:31] <deathtech> cause i tried it and it didnt work
[16:31] <indian_munnda_> and then to come back command is ctrl+alt+f7
[16:31] <jrib> deathtech: by FOO I just meant "some appopriate value"
[16:31] <deathtech> jrib : you mean by editing menu.lst and adding it to the boot options, corect ?
[16:31] <Omoikane_> there
[16:31] <indian_munnda_> and there try to login into ur account first
[16:31] <deathtech> ah i see
[16:31] <deathtech> yeah man, nada, didnt work
[16:32] <dmsuperman_> Lynet: I can find only one seemingly relevant syslog entry at about the time the internet stopped working
[16:32] <wendico> hello, i have a 3G PCMCIA card that works correctly on ubuntu after issuing the following command "gcom -d /dev/noz0" and setting the right dial up connection. The problem, is that that gcom command i have to type with sudo privileges every time a insert the card. How can i automate this command with the insertion of the card so a noon privileged user can run the 3G connection?
[16:32] <jrib> deathtech: how are you testing?
[16:32] <dmsuperman_> Lynet: Something to the effect of "Leaving mDNS multicast group"
[16:32] <indian_munnda_> Omoikane_: and then to come back command is ctrl+alt+f7
[16:32] <Omoikane_> indian_munnda logged in using ctrl+alt+f1
[16:32] <kitche> wendico: probably have to setup a udev rule
[16:32] <ndube> grizzlo42 : if you google 'ubuntu Atheros AR5212' you will get a thread on ubuntu forums that deals with your problem
[16:32] <FD_F> compengi: i cant find any "mute " in the gnome UI
[16:32] <ndube> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38972
[16:33] <dmsuperman_> Lynet: Right after avahi_daemon got "SIGTERM"
[16:33] <deathtech> well i edit /boot/grub/menu.lst , and at the end of my kernel options i add a vga=775. i then restart the system and where it normally loads GDM on tty7, i swap over to tty1 by doing ctrl + alt+ F1. However i still have a regular )non framebuffered console)
[16:33] <Omoikane_> indian_munnda back
[16:33] <Indoctrine> How shall I fix BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 11s?
[16:33] <indian_munnda_> Omoikane_: great, now use this command sudo useradd -m <username> passwd <passwd>
[16:34] <jrib> deathtech: how are you determining it is not framebuffered?
[16:34] <wendico> kitche: following udev rule instructions i encounter that i dont find lines in /var/log/messages that identify my hardware on connection-desconection and i cannot go fordwar
[16:34] <dtech> I need help with 'rescue mode' ... it's asking me to 'execute a shell' in ...  (this is beyond me)
[16:34] <Lynet> dmsuperman_: Sorry, that doesn't ring a bell. I'd buy a Coca Cola, stroll over to the local networkBOFH and bribe him to take a look at it. ;-p
[16:34] <kitche> dtech: type /bin/bash there and it will load bash correctly
[16:35] <dmsuperman_> Lynet: Running linux here means I get no support, and even if it is the fault of the network he'll only blame using linux
[16:35] <Omoikane_> indian_munnda with the <>?
[16:35] <deathtech> well the 775 option is supposed to be a 1024x768 mode if im not mistaken, and the prompt is by no means buffering to that size resolution, as i do not have 1024 x768 lines on the screen
[16:35] <indian_munnda_> Omoikane_: <passwd> means your password ogf that account
[16:35] <dtech> no where to type yet? ... I need to select [s]hell in /dev/xxx OR [s]hell in installer environment
[16:37] <jrib> deathtech: use 0x318
[16:37] <Shakedown> Anybody know if I can get xspim from the repositories?
[16:37] <kitche> Shakedown: why not just look if you can instead of asking?
[16:38] <FPtje> hi
[16:38] <Shakedown> Well I did look and I can't seem to find it but a friend of mine said he was able to get it
[16:38] <zer0o>  hi guys, my ipod it's on the desktop but amarok doesnt c it. how come?
[16:38] <deathtech> kk, on it , thank you
[16:38] <FPtje> I've got a question
[16:38] <FPtje> I just installed ubuntu
[16:38] <FPtje> how do I setup compiz?
[16:38] <dtech> ne1 know?
[16:38] <Shakedown> So I'm wondering if it's hidden somehow
[16:38] <ikonia> FPtje install the simple-ccsm package
[16:38] <FPtje> How do I set up compiz fusion?
[16:38] <Shakedown> All I can find is spim, but I need xspim
[16:38] <FPtje> ok thanks
[16:39] <wendico> may i stablish l2tp tunnel using certificates with my ubuntu?
[16:39] <indian_munnda_> FPtje: install advances destop effects settings package
[16:39] <FPtje> Installing that simple packet now
[16:40] <FPtje> Whatś newer, compiz or beryl?
[16:40] <en1gma> sup all
[16:40] <indian_munnda_> FPtje: compiz
[16:40] <kitche> FPtje: beryl is not being developed anymore
[16:40] <FPtje> ok thanks
[16:40] <compengi> FD_F, it should work then. did you try testing it in Sound Recorder?
[16:40] <en1gma> what is the font that IE7 uses
[16:40] <kitche> FPtje: it merged with compiz-extras to become compiz-fusion
[16:40] <dtech> all you geek type here, and no one know how to run rescue-mode ?
[16:40] <grulk> Hi guys, I am trying to configure -font on root-tail where can I get all the availables font I can use?
[16:40] <FPtje> ok :)
[16:40] <en1gma> can i get that in ubuntu cause firefox always looks wrong
[16:41] <en1gma> or what font does firefox use in vista
[16:41] <en1gma> i want to use the same in ubuntu 8.04
[16:41] <kitche> dtech: it's up to you to select what shell you want to use either use the one on your hard drive or the one from the install environment
[16:41] <en1gma> anyone know?
[16:41] <bastid_raZor> en1gma; maybe ##windows will know.
[16:42] <Indoctrine> !wifi
[16:42] <indian_munnda> Omoikane_: did that?
[16:42] <marinosi> hey, is interpid ubuntu stable enough?do you recommend that ?
[16:42] <Shakedown> Are these correct for my xspim makefile: executable files in /usr/local/bin, exception handler in /usr/local/lib, man files in /usr/man/mann
[16:42] <en1gma> yea i know linux people know more cause that is where i heard about the fonts
[16:42] <h00k> !beta | marinosi
[16:42] <Shakedown> Are those good places to put those things?
[16:42] <tonyyarusso> marinosi: #ubuntu+1
[16:42] <dtech> you might as well ask me which scalple to use for brain surgery? ... I have no idea what that means?
[16:42] <FD_F> compengi: yes
[16:42] <h00k> marinosi, I had a bad experience with the beta, and i had been running it since alpha 4.
[16:43] <h00k> marinosi, it's not recommended for production use. If you want to gamble and try it, but make sure you have all your data backed up.
[16:43] <Omoikane_> indian_munnda no... sigh
[16:43] <bunnyto> if i type: apt-get distro-install-8.10   nothing works, help!
[16:43] <ikonia> bunnyto thats not how you install
[16:43] <marinosi> h00k: you do not recommend it for laptop usage(meaning main things to work)?Is it like debian testing or unstable ?
[16:43] <indian_munnda> Omoikane_: can u login into that account u created now in GUI
[16:43] <FD_F> compengi: you need some output or logs ?
[16:44] <atlef> !upgrade | bunnyto:
[16:44] <kitche> dtech: well then you shouldn't be using the rescue mode then but just pick one and it will load the shell so you can get into rescue mode(myself I'd rather use a livecd instead of the built in rescue mode)
[16:44] <Omoikane_> indian_munnda no.
[16:44] <h00k> marinosi, I had problems with the newest beta on my laptop...I had nVidia and I suspect it had something to do with that.
[16:44] <sonaquela>  /server irc.novavaga.org
[16:44] <Shakedown> Are these good places to put things in my xspim makefile? executable files in /usr/local/bin, exception handler in /usr/local/lib, man files in /usr/man/mann
[16:44] <marinosi> h00k: oh ok :D
[16:45] <h00k> marinosi, what happened was an updated killed my mouse/keyboard in GDM and and any X session I was running
[16:45] <indian_munnda> Omoikane_: r u able to login in comand line using that account?
[16:45] <dtech> okay ... I'll just format and reinstall ... thanks for your help?
[16:45] <h00k> marinosi, I decided that I'll stick with 8.04.1 until the release is out, I just don't want to lose any of my data, etc.
[16:45] <Omoikane_> no
[16:45] <h00k> marinosi, If you want to gamble, go ahead...but good luck.
[16:45] <marinosi> h00k: me too..I just needed some packages from interpid in order to install awesome 3
[16:46] <indian_munnda> Omoikane_: it means account has not been created yet
[16:46] <xintron> What's the standard pdf reader in ubuntu and is it possible to print a pdf file directly from the command line
[16:46] <Alastair27> hi. i have a question. i have a button on my laptop which is meant to open my browser. in 8.04.1 it open opera for me but in 8.10 beta it opens nautilus. is there a way to change that behaviour?
[16:46] <kitche> h00k: on an upgrade you never lose data really unless you reformat without copying all the data off if something happens I can hose my install and instantly boot up a livecd and grab all the data I need
[16:46] <jrib> xintron: evince
[16:46] <h00k> marinosi, if you do, and run into problems, please don't hesitate to help Launchpad with some bug reports
[16:47] <jrib> xintron: lpr maybe for printing, but I've never tried
[16:47] <h00k> kitche, that's what I did, I know...it just sucks to have to do.
[16:47] <paul68> !beta |alastair27
[16:47] <h00k> kitche, I was able to grab my mysql dumps and apache configs, etc,
[16:47] <Alastair27> that doesn't really answer my question sorry
[16:48] <compengi> FD_F, try amixer set Mic 74% unmute and same for Line
[16:48] <tonyyarusso> !intrepid | Alastair27
[16:48] <foormat> hi all
[16:48] <paul68> tonyyarusso: thanks forgot that one
[16:48] <Alastair27> so basically you're saying i should live with it til final?
[16:49] <FD_F> compengi: ok
[16:49] <paul68> Alastair27: no go to #ubuntu+1 for your questions
[16:49] <bunnyto> W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org hardy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[16:49] <Alastair27> oh sorry thx
[16:49] <jrib> !medibuntu > bunnyto
[16:50] <stanley_> hi,all
[16:50] <bunnyto> i feel violated when somebody send me a private message without my permit
[16:51] <riotkittie> Alastair27: you could try keytouch -- should be in the repos, i believe, and will let you edit the behavior of your keys, to some extent. you may need to fool around with it to get it to do what you want it to do, though
[16:51] <kitche> bunnyto: techinally you did give permission for a bot to private message you but anyways you want to move over to the mediubuntu channel for your question
[16:52] <Lynet> riotkittie: #ubuntu rule #1 - If you write a long answer, he will leave the channel just before you hit enter.
[16:52] <aubade> alastor666: keytouch, install it, rtfm.
[16:54] <Shakedown> Where should I specify man files to be placed?
[16:54] <bunnyto> how to fix that erro rwith medibuntu
[16:55] <Shakedown> Where should I specify man files to be placed?
[16:55] <paul68> !medibuntu | bunnyto
[16:56] <[T]ank> I am following this tutorial to install windows after ubuntu.... http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm?page=1
[16:56] <[T]ank> when i try to boot into the windows installer it says it cant find a hard drive, any ideas?
[16:56] <ishqip> hello , i asked yestarday for smth. and today i still don't have any idea how to deal with my problem.... i want to open network places in fluxbox...
[16:56] <Myrtti> Shakedown: should I count the percentage of the turnover that occurred between your two questions to show you how utterly useless it is to repeat it with such a small gap?
[16:56] <tonyyarusso> Shakedown: Are you building a package or something?  You could check the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard.
[16:57] <Lynet> bunnyto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#Adding%20the%20Repositories - "Then, add the GPG key:"
[16:58] <takamarou> Hi, I'm trying to edit me /etc/sudoers.  For some reason when I do sudo gedit sudoers or sudo vim sudoers I still do not have write access.  Can anyone tell me how to enable write access on this file (even if just temporarily enabled)?
[16:58] <tonyyarusso> Shakedown: Yes, the FHS has that answer.
[16:58] <ishqip> anyone has any idea about network places in fluxbox ?
[16:59] <r0ach> Guys I need some advice
[16:59] <Appi> hi please help in installing mysql database
[16:59] <r0ach> I've been using Ubuntu for 2 years now
[16:59] <freakazoid> use the first one
[16:59] <Shakedown> What's the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard?
[16:59] <r0ach> But my Hardy crashed and I don't have the installation Disc
[17:00] <r0ach> All I have is this Live disc of 7.10
[17:00] <Shakedown> Is it some website?
[17:00] <Appi> Anyone please help me in installing mysqldb
[17:00] <r0ach> I dont wanna install this
[17:00] <tonyyarusso> Shakedown, meet Google.  Google, meet Shakedown.
[17:00] <Lynet> Shakedown: A google should find it for you. It is a standard for where to put stuff, and most linux distributions try to abide by it.
[17:00] <compengi> Appi, to run it within a webserver
[17:00] <compengi> ?
[17:00] <Olof_szary> Is there any good program to check HDD for coruptions?
[17:00] <r0ach> Tell me if 8.10 is good for use
[17:01] <r0ach> Is 8.10 ready for personal use ?
[17:01] <compengi> r0ach, it's still beta
[17:01] <tonyyarusso> !intrepid | r0ach
[17:01] <Shakedown> Oh, so it's simply a convention (not some package)
[17:01] <Appi> ye
[17:01] <r0ach> I see
[17:01] <Shakedown> Ok, thanks
[17:01] <Lynet> r0ach: It is still in development. So, no guarantees.
[17:01] <tonyyarusso> Olof_szary: smartmon can for some drives.
[17:01] <compengi> !lamp > Appi
[17:01] <r0ach> My friend said - "Wait for the finished product. Don't waste ur bandwidth on the beta"
[17:02] <r0ach> So I guess thats good advice. Is it ?
[17:02] <freakazoid> well im sure the beta will patch to final
[17:02] <freakazoid> so its not a waste
[17:02] <freakazoid> :P
[17:02] <Olof_szary> tonyyarusso: ant LiveCD with it?
[17:02] <jrib> r0ach: yes
[17:02] <tonyyarusso> Olof_szary: you could install it in a live environment, yes.
[17:02] <Lynet> r0ach: Yeah, unless you're feeling very adventureous(sp?) or want to help debugging before the release.
[17:03] <deathtech> jrib : when i add that and boot up to try and enable frame buffering, when i go to swap to a diff console tty i get jsut a blinking cursor oddly enough
[17:03] <r0ach> I see
[17:03] <r0ach> I can't wait till it releases
[17:03] <doktoreas> anyone has installed Openoffice 3.0 ?
[17:03] <r0ach> Windows is a pain in the ass
[17:03] <tonyyarusso> !anyone | doktoreas
[17:04] <r0ach> If anyone is already using it, please tell me if Intrepid has got a speed boost or something
[17:04] <doktoreas> sorry tonibuntu
[17:04] <r0ach> Cuz Hardy was f*ck slow on my system
[17:04] <compengi> [T]ank, you don't need all those guides.
[17:04] <Lynet> r0ach: If you have vmware/virtualbox or a similar virtual machine software, you could try it out in a VM. But I would recommend against installing it on your main system until the final release.
[17:04] <tonyyarusso> r0ach: What did ubottu say?  There's another channel for that.
[17:04] <doktoreas> r0ach, look fine here
[17:04] <kitche> r0ach: why not ask that in #ubuntu+1
[17:04] <compengi> !please tell [T]ank about grub
[17:04] <atlef> !ibex | r0ach:
[17:04] <deathtech> r0ach : Intrepid has a new kernel. Adn its built from rocket fuel. much faster.
[17:04] <doktoreas> so is there any repository for the new OOo.org ?
[17:04] <jrib> deathtech: you are on hardy?
[17:05] <deathtech> jrib : actually i upgraded to intrepid beta last night, jokes aside, but i had the same issues with hardy as well
[17:05] <r0ach> Ok cool guys
[17:05] <jrib> deathtech: you need to ask #ubuntu+1
[17:05] <r0ach> Thx for the help
[17:05] <r0ach> :)
[17:06] <tonyyarusso> doktoreas: you can get it from openoffice-pkgs PPA.
[17:06] <jrib> deathtech: check bugs.ubuntu.com for issues like that.  I recall there being one release where that happened and certain modules needed to be blacklisted
[17:07] <tyranos>  i think i m going to downgrade back to gutsy
[17:07] <[T]ank> compengi: I have it all figured out except for how to get windows installed ;-) I know this is not the place for that. It looks like an issue with my sata drive. xp does not recognize it.
[17:07] <bensimp> Oh I actually have the same issue Tank
[17:07] <jrib> deathtech: or maybe unblacklisted -- can't remember
[17:07] <[T]ank> bensimp: need the sata drivers.
[17:07] <jrib> tyranos: you would need to reinstall
[17:08] <[T]ank> my problem is xp only looks for them on floppy... my laptop doesnt have one
[17:08] <tyranos> i just updated my laptop to hardy with kernel 2.6.24-22 and everything broke again , ati + compiz , dvb , and with  gdm lockups and i m very angry
[17:08] <ikonia> tyranos how did you install the ati drivers
[17:08] <bunnyto> Thank yiou!
[17:08] <deathtech> jrib : thanks, in ubuntu+1 noow asking,,  i appreciate your help
[17:09] <RickZilla> Any GIMP users on ubuntu have any luck using the Photoshop filter plugin? http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimpuserfilter/
[17:09] <bunnyto> I Love UBUNTU!!!! Mark Shuterland you rock!!!
[17:09] <myk_robinson> hey. I am new to Gnome, always used KDE. Anyway, in Gnome, how do you fine tune the settings for the screensaver.
[17:09] <atlef> !gimp | RickZilla:
[17:10] <tyranos> ikonia first i did nothing but compiz had some problems , then throughe envy but this broke video playback and kaffeine , then reverted back to the old kernel and wont update anymore
[17:10] <bunnyto> gimp aint advanced.. its like MS Paint
[17:10] <RickZilla> atlef:  Thanks, but I'm pretty familiar with what GIMP is.  I was just asking if any ubuntu users had any issues with that particular plugin.
[17:10] <_Zeus_> bunnyto: gimp is like paint?
[17:10] <kitche> bunnyto: umm gimp is very advance it's like photoshop if you dig deep into it
[17:10] <freakazoid> ya
[17:10] <_Zeus_> yeah
[17:10] <freakazoid> lol
[17:10] <freakazoid> thats wat ppl make u believe
[17:10] <_Zeus_> bunnyto: looks like you just got PWNED!
[17:10] <freakazoid> cause they cheap
[17:11] <atlef> RickZilla: sorry, thought it would guide you to #gimp :-)
[17:11] <kitche> freakazoid: sorry but everything in photoshop I can do in gimp
[17:11] <bunnyto> oh come on , Gimp dont have the super world class plugins than Adobo Potatoshop
[17:11] <RickZilla> I've been over there, but didn't get a response from any ubuntu users
[17:11] <_Zeus_> bunnyto: who is Mark Shuterland?  Is that some kind of mix of Mark Shuttleworth and Kiefer Sutherland?
[17:11] <_Zeus_> RickZilla: who cares if they use ubuntu?
[17:11] <andry92> ciaoo
[17:12] <freakazoid> kitche, then i guess u cant do much :P
[17:12] <franki> anyone care to help me get my canon a460 working? :)
[17:12] <RickZilla> _Zeus_:  Apparently, there are some issues with that plugin and ubuntu...wanted to see if any users in here had experienced them.
[17:12] <bunnyto> Mark sufleworth made Ubuntu with some africans macacos
[17:12] <kitche> freakazoid: guess you can't do much then if you have to rely on plugins to do everything for you :)
[17:12] <bensimp> I have been trying to get a dual boot set up and windowz does not see my hard drive
[17:13] <lucas__> hi
[17:13] <paul68> !anyone |franki
[17:13] <lucas__> i'm brazilian and pretty new on linux
[17:13] <lucas__> i'm using ubuntu
[17:13] <ikonia> bensimp you need free space on the first disk for the windows installer
[17:13] <franki> paul68: sorry
[17:13] <freakazoid> lol kitche, i said nothing about plugins
[17:13] <freakazoid> :P
[17:13] <lucas__> can u tell me how can i install apps?
[17:13] <_Zeus_> RickZilla: ic
[17:13] <lucas__> without the terminal
[17:13] <Ch3mist_> Hi, what is the name of the script where you can hear a sound when someone talk to you on irssi please?
[17:13] <r0ach> Guys, I'm deleting my old linux files & folders from my ext3 drive in live CD from the terminal. Now I got nothing left other than the home folder (which I need). It consumes 6gigs on disk. But the drive properties say "11GB used". I also saw this "some parts unreadable" in the window. How do I delete these "unreadable" files ?
[17:14] <_Zeus_> bunnyto: it's Mark Shuttleworth
[17:14] <r0ach> Hope its ok to ask this question here
[17:14] <paul68> franki:  no problem
[17:14] <atlef> !synaptic | lucas__:
[17:14] <_Zeus_> r0ach: better to copy the files off and make a new partition...
[17:14] <lucas__> ok
[17:14] <bensimp> how do i partition free space
[17:14] <lucas__> but synaptic
[17:14] <lucas__> isnt for install only apps for the system linux?
[17:14] <lucas__> or install any app there i want
[17:15] <tonyyarusso> Ch3mist_: um, ringing the terminal bell is a built-in irssi function.
[17:15] <r0ach> See I'm downloading a torrent and I'm freeing space for it. So if I copy and all, I may lose the file
[17:15] <franki> i have just acquired a canon powershot a460 digital camera, i was under the impression that ubuntu would recognise it, it doesn't :)
[17:15] <atlef> lucas__: what are you trying to install?
[17:15] <r0ach> BTW, the torrent is midway in downloading (26.07%)
[17:15] <Ch3mist_> tonyyarusso: ok thanks ;)
[17:16] <compengi> [T]ank, i didn't get how you can't get vista get installed and trying to make the grub boot the uninstalled vista
[17:16] <lucas__> cairo clock
[17:16] <compengi> [T]ank, i mean X{
[17:16] <compengi> Xp*
[17:16] <lucas__> i'm with problems to install..
[17:16] <bunnyto> Mark Shstfuworth should start sleeping with Adobe to get potoshop here
[17:17] <bensimp> so when i try to use GParted it says my ex3 partition is locked
[17:17] <bensimp> how do i unlock it?
[17:17] <r0ach> @bensimp: Its always locked in Ubuntu Harddrive install
[17:17] <disco> hello
[17:17] <r0ach> @bensimp: Use a live disk, it won't be locked
[17:17] <bensimp> ok
[17:17] <bensimp> tks
[17:17] <compengi> [T]ank, if you got sata drive no being detected, i would assume you are running a mercury via chipset mainboard
[17:17] <r0ach> Happy to help
[17:18] <charles> Yo
[17:18] <disco> Does anyone already had a problem with NetworkManager and dhclient interaction ? It looks like NetworkManager launches dhclient which get an IP address successfully, but then NetworkManager is never notified about this IP address.
[17:18] <charles> Hey peps
[17:18] <r0ach> Bye Guys. Thx for all the help :)
[17:19] <storm-zen> I'd like to upgrade to Hardy.  To do so, I need to free some space on /boot.  This isn't terribly scary, as I have quite a few kernels that I'm pretty sure that I'm not using, but I'd like to use a GUI to free the space, if possible.  Does such a thing exist?
[17:19] <charles> Hi
[17:19] <tonyyarusso> storm-zen: Synaptic.
[17:19] <charles> HI
[17:19] <_Zeus_> storm-zen: nautilus?
[17:19] <atlef> storm-zen: remove them with synaptic
[17:19] <charles> HI HI HI HI
[17:20] <storm-zen> Ok.  Thanks, tonyyarusso and atlef.  _Zeus_: nautilus doesn't mitigate the danger like I wanted.
[17:20] <_Zeus_> storm-zen: eh?
[17:21] <_Zeus_> sorry, i wasn't sure what you meant
[17:21] <jim_p> !wine
[17:21] <jim_p> !appdb
[17:21] <nowimproved> Whats the best video editing software?
[17:21] <kr00l> can someone help me configure Eve Online Premium to work with Wine?
[17:22] <bunnyto> Adobe Afterefects
[17:22] <jim_p> nowimproved: premiere. nothing comes even close in linux
[17:22] <compengi> jim_p, i would prefer to use a ">" tag, if you want to check something, to prevent missleading
[17:22] <atlef> nowimproved: you have lives and cinelerra
[17:22] <jim_p> compengi: ok i wi;;
[17:22] <loriah0tsexy> hi
[17:22] <dink> yo
[17:22] <compengi> jim_p, syntax "!factoid > your-nick"
[17:22] <dink> stfu
[17:23] <bunnyto> in linux you cant do anything professional, just for fun
[17:23] <compengi> !language | dink
[17:23] <malibu> Why does every ubuntu package MESS AROUND WITH THE DIRECTORY STRUCTURE of the package??
[17:23] <halc> plx can has starcraft game anyone?
[17:23] <atlef> nowimproved: but depends on how much or what kind of editing you are going to do
[17:23] <Orbixx> bunnyto: Most of the websites you visit are hosted on Linux servers.
[17:24] <bunnyto> Orbixx: i mean professional work, like graphic or video editing
[17:24] <compengi> malibu, it's what debian does too
[17:24] <freakazoid> bunnyto, u cant do anything artistic
[17:24] <disco> Does anyone already had a problem with NetworkManager and dhclient interaction ? It looks like NetworkManager launches dhclient which get an IP address successfully, but then NetworkManager is never notified about this IP address.
[17:24] <malibu> compengi: Its the worst thing about Ubuntu
[17:24] <malibu> compengi: ..and debian, apparently
[17:24] <myk_robinson> had to step away.. Can anyone tell me how to alter the settings of screensavers in Gnome? I had the same screensavers available in KDE, but I was able to change settings for each screensaver
[17:24] <compengi> malibu, you need to follow guides
[17:24] <disco> So NetworkManager pretend I'm not connected. That is, I need to do it manually
[17:24] <bunnyto> freakazoid: agreed, to make professional and Artistic work, you need to use Windows
[17:24] <nowimproved> atlef, yah alright, I'm assuming I have to compile lives?
[17:24] <freakazoid> or mac
[17:24] <Orbixx> disco: I think I may have the same issue.
[17:25] <Machtin>  yo guys.. can i somehow synchronize my phone with korganizer?
[17:25] <atlef> nowimproved: no, think there is a package or a repository
[17:25] <bunnyto> Machtin: brand, model?
[17:25] <compengi> malibu, mainly in wiki.ubuntu.com or help.ubuntu.com, or some other packages provide walkthroughs for such distros
[17:25] <halc> lulz so Os determines artistic output of user?
[17:25] <halc> hmm
[17:25] <malibu> compengi: There is no guide on how to apply the pnp module to the ubuntu nagios2 package
[17:25] <atlef> nowimproved: http://www.getdeb.net/search.php?keywords=lives
[17:25] <nowimproved> atlef, thank you
[17:26] <Machtin> bunnyto: sony ericsson w810i
[17:26] <malibu> compengi: In fact, the pnp configure options don't even allow for the ubuntu directory schemes
[17:26] <malibu> compengi: and yes, I do blame Ubuntu for this
[17:26] <bunnyto> Machtin: thats a homo phone, get an Android one
[17:26] <Machtin> :f
[17:26] <atlef> !language | bunnyto:
[17:26] <disco> Orbixx: really ? got any solution ?
[17:27] <Orbixx> disco: Nope. :(
[17:27] <Orbixx> disco: Is this through wired/wireless?
[17:27] <disco> Orbixx: both
[17:27] <Orbixx> Ah, mine only happens through wireless, oddly.
[17:27] <stianiquniez> Could someone help me, I have a problem with my sound.. Worked before, not after updating
[17:27] <disco> Orbixx: you use dhclient(3) as DHCP client ?
[17:28] <Leo35M> hello. After the package manager has updated some packages (e.g. libc), rapidsvn crashs when I do "checkout".
[17:28] <Orbixx> I don't remember, I'd have to boot up my laptop to find out.
[17:28] <Mohammad[B]> i have a problem with EDGE in ubuntu, when i connect to EDGE with wvdial in ubuntu and give IP Address and DNS, i cant browse web-sites or ping address, how to i can resolve this problem ? PLEASE HELP me :-s
[17:28] <wal3> hello. After the package manager has updated some packages (e.g. libc), rapidsvn crashs when I do "checkout".
[17:28] <Flannel> Leo35M: Try doing the same checkout with svn, and then file bugs appropriately. (and check for already filed bugs)
[17:29] <dink> hey
[17:29] <dink> question..
[17:29] <compengi> wal3, don't repeat questions :)
[17:29] <dink> heh
[17:29] <dink> wasnt goin to
[17:29] <disco> Orbixx: ok
[17:30] <shahriar86> Hi I want to report a bug in Probhat (Bengali) Keyboard layout (Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex Beta 1) how can I report a bug in such a way that a Bengali speaking Developer (tester) notices it?>?
[17:30] <Flannel> !launchpad | shahriar86
[17:30] <atlef> shahriar86: launchpad
[17:30] <Flannel> shahriar86: more specifically: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[17:31] <shahriar86> Flannel: thanks I am aware of that. but the problem (bug) is of complex type that any developer won't understand it. Only Bengali speaking people will understand what I am saying
[17:32] <shahriar86> so is there any specific way I can approach the Bengali developers for Probhat layout?
[17:32] <FFForever> how do i install gtkmm??? (2.4)
[17:33] <shahriar86> I am more of looking for the people who packaged Probhat Keyboard layout in Intrepid (its almost close to imposible to make a non-Bengali understand the problem/bug)
[17:33] <shahriar86> so any specif way to approach anyone?
[17:33] <compengi> shahriar86, you should probably look in #ubuntu-motu
[17:33] <osotogari> Can anyone help me to get my wireless mouse working again in Hardy?
[17:34] <shahriar86> ok thanks
[17:34] <compengi> shahriar86, they are the ones that pack packages
[17:34] <lucas__> i have a question
[17:34] <compengi> shoot
[17:34] <lucas__> how can i kill my dad?
[17:34] <ikonia> lucas__: stop please
[17:34] <ikonia> lucas__: this is a support channel for ubuntu only
[17:34] <compengi> lucas__, not for killing people
[17:35] <bobertdos> When using separate home partitions, are there ever any problems with old settings conflicting with new ones when you either upgrade or install a new version of the OS?
[17:35] <stianiquniez> could someone please help me with my sound problem ?
[17:35] <compengi> ikonia, he expected from us a human killing guide?
[17:35] <ikonia> compengi: probably best to jsut drop it and move on
[17:36] <compengi> ikonia, sure.
[17:36] <ikonia> thanks
[17:36] <diskin> Hi all, after upgade to hardy my laptop fan is allways on, however, frequency is changing ondemand as needed. Is it a known problem? I have AMD Turion CPU.
[17:36] <Anandhi> hey does amsn support voice chat
[17:36] <ikonia> Anandhi nope
[17:36] <Akkard_> hey
[17:37] <compengi> Anandhi, not as far as i know
[17:37] <bobertdos> stianiquniez: Sure, tell us a bit about it, if you please.
[17:38] <osotogari> Can anyone help me to get my wireless mouse working again in Hardy?
[17:39] <stianiquniez> when I boot with my new kernel, it's no sound, when i boot my new, I get sound a bit, and after a while, it's gone, When I try alsamixer i get "ALSA lib pulse.c:272:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Connection terminated" and alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: Connection refused"
[17:39] <Akkard_> ok
[17:39] <stianiquniez> when I boot with my old*
[17:39] <FPtje> hi
[17:40] <bobertdos> stianiquniez: This is with Hardy, right?
[17:40] <FPtje> how do I know if all my drivers are correctly installed?
[17:40] <Anandhi> hey does amsn support voice chat
[17:40] <Anandhi> hey does amsn support voice chat
[17:40] <Anandhi> hey does amsn support voice chat
[17:40] <FloodBot3> Anandhi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:41] <stianiquniez> no, the beta of 8.10 bobertdos
[17:41] <FPtje> Hellow
[17:42] <FPtje> How do I know if alll the drivers are corrrectly installed?
[17:42] <stianiquniez> when i Quit amarok, I can get up alsamixer, but only master.. Does amarok block the sound, even if its closed ?
[17:42] <bobertdos> stianiquniez: Well, we ask that Intrepid questions go to #ubuntu+1. I'll be there if you want to talk.
[17:42] <atlef> FPtje: if all your hardware works, then they are installed
[17:42] <FPtje> how to check?
[17:43] <storm-zen> How can I disable my screen saver for the upgrade process?
[17:43] <tabbu> hi, each time from switching from my custom kernel to standard ubuntu or vice versa, i have to reinstall the nvidia binary driver package. i'm tired of it!
[17:44] <yell0w> does anyone know how to start epiphany's profile manager ?
[17:44] <Guest15007> does anyone know of a program that allows you to control ubuntu with a gamepad
[17:45] <tabbu> lol
[17:45] <storm-zen> Guest15007: It's really quite a bad thing that you logged in with root.  You know that, right?
[17:45] <Guest15007> how do I know that I logged in with root
[17:45] <osotogari> lol
[17:46] <bobertdos> FPtje: modprobe -l will give you a pretty complete list of modules
[17:46] <Guest15007> I typed in irc://irc.ubuntu.com in firefox, chatzilla picked it up
[17:46] <Guest15007> I typed in /join #ubuntu
[17:46] <osotogari> @Guest15007: It takes your username from the account your logged in with.
[17:46] <dooglus> yell0w: how about "epiphany --private-instance --profile=/path/to/profile" - it uses the specified profile, creating the dir if it doesn't exist
[17:46]  * bunnyto cant speak.. KGB is watching
[17:47] <Guest15007> oh yea, I have avant-window-navigator on in root and it opens all my programs in the root users
[17:47] <mbrigdan> help please, I'm trying to compile wine, and ./configure complains that it can't find the truetype development files, even though I have truetype 1 and 2 installed.
[17:47] <Guest15007> user
[17:47] <Guest15007> what damage can that do
[17:47] <storm-zen> c'mon guys.  Surely there is an easy way to disable the gnome screen saver?
[17:47] <_Zeus_> mbrigdan: do you have truetype-dev installed?
[17:47] <_Zeus_> or something in that ballpark
[17:47] <storm-zen> Well, based on what you are saying, no end of damage...
[17:48] <storm-zen> There is a reason that the root password is not known for ubuntu systems.
[17:48] <gaintsura> storm-zen: yes there is, drag the idle time bar to the end
[17:48] <mbrigdan> _Zeus_: I'm pretty sure I have that installed for both versions of truetype, I'll double check though
[17:48] <_Zeus_> Guest15007: why do you have it running as root?
[17:48] <_Zeus_> mbrigdan: you must not
[17:48] <jim_p> storm-zen: the root password does not exist because the root account is disabled by default
[17:48] <yell0w> dooglus: would that become my default profile ?
[17:48] <SM177Y> ubuntu sucks ASS!!!
[17:48] <_Zeus_> !language
[17:49] <kursor_> i have a question about bash. if i source a configuration file, which has commands in variables like so: CMD00="echo something"; CMD01="echo else" etc, what is the "proper" way to execute them from main program?
[17:49] <jim_p> storm-zen: bad practice if you ask me
[17:49] <yell0w> dooglus: would that become my default profile ?
[17:49] <Guest15007> what damage can that do
[17:49] <Guest15007> please tell me
[17:49] <mbrigdan> _Zeus_: oh wait, it wants FreeType, not TrueType
[17:49] <_Zeus_> Guest15007: running programs as root can do damage...
[17:49] <storm-zen> jim_p: Bad practice for people that are familiar with Linux, maybe... but then, that is easily dodge-able.
[17:49] <_Zeus_> depends on the program
[17:49] <Guest15007> keep going
[17:50] <Myrtti> Guest15007: you are running firefox as root
[17:50] <Loganhoup> anyone know about opening .sit archives with fileroller? and don't tell me it works because it doesn't
[17:50] <Myrtti> Guest15007: hence, if anyone would decide to do an attack using some vulnerability in firefox...
[17:50] <_Zeus_> Guest15007: i'm just telling you, it's a bad idea.  For starters, you'll have different config files for the programs
[17:50] <jim_p> storm-zen: it happened ONCE here for a guy to have to change a setting that required him to be root , not just sudo!
[17:50] <storm-zen> heh... ok... I guess the problem I have is that I can't find the screensaver settings in 7.x ... (Gutsy?)
[17:50] <bobertdos> storm-zen: System->Preferences->Screensaver
[17:51] <storm-zen> bobertdos: There is no menu for Screensaver.
[17:51] <mbrigdan> _Zeus_: I have the development files for both Freetype 1 and Freetype 2, and it still says it can't find Freetype :(
[17:51] <storm-zen> jim_p: There is a way to do it without knowing the password.
[17:51] <saschahl> Guest15007: but to your question, you can try to use the xf86-input-joystick module to control Ubuntu with a gamepad
[17:51] <Myrtti> mbrigdan: question 1: why are you compiling wine?
[17:51] <_Zeus_> mbrigdan: how about libfreetype6-dev
[17:52] <jim_p> storm-zen: do what?
[17:52] <storm-zen> ( ** I'm pretty sure, at least. )
[17:52] <storm-zen> be root.
[17:52] <_Zeus_> and maybe libttf-dev
[17:52] <mbrigdan> _Zeus_ : Yup, and libttf-dev
[17:52] <_Zeus_> ouch
[17:52] <_Zeus_> i guess you need the newer version?
[17:52] <jim_p> storm-zen: for the operation that this guy had to do, sudo did not have enough rights
[17:52] <mbrigdan> Myrtti: I need to install a specail patch
[17:52] <_Zeus_> that's why you're compiling it?
[17:52] <mbrigdan> *special
[17:52] <Myrtti> mbrigdan: ok, just checking
[17:52] <storm-zen> ok, jim_p.  You win.
[17:53] <ango> how do i restart samba in the terminal
[17:53] <bunnyto> root is not disabled
[17:53] <_Zeus_> ango: /etc/init.d/samba restart
[17:53] <Myrtti> bunnyto: oh?
[17:53] <_Zeus_> ango: prefix it with sudo
[17:54] <rUKA> kesta merda
[17:54] <jim_p> how can i open TCP port 27015 from iptables?
[17:54] <storm-zen> ... so no one remembers how to get to screensaver in Gutsy?  How about the process name that runs it?  sudo ps aux | grep creen returns only the screenlets-daemon.py...
[17:55] <Marce_> join
[17:57] <dink> hey
[17:58] <dink> where is compiz located at
[17:58] <dink> after you d.l it
[17:58] <_Zeus_> dink: download?
[17:58] <Myrtti> dink: eh?
[17:58] <Marce_> Hello, i am trying to set up my samba server and i cannot open the folders when i access the machine via Windows XP. Can anybody help me?
[17:58] <dink> already did
[17:58] <_Zeus_> what does that mean?
[17:58] <Myrtti> dink: please tell what you're trying to do
[17:58] <dink> trying to get into compiz
[17:58] <Myrtti> dink: including, what did you download, and from where
[17:59] <dink> compiz from add/remove programs
[17:59] <Myrtti> dink: and - specifying the ubuntu version you're using
[17:59] <_Zeus_> dink: you want to run it?
[17:59] <dink> yes.
[17:59] <Marce_> Hello, i am trying to set up my samba server and i cannot open the folders when i access the machine via Windows XP. Can anybody help me?
[17:59] <_Zeus_> type compiz --replace
[17:59] <dink> where at
[17:59] <_Zeus_> Marce_: not sure...
[17:59] <_Zeus_> dink: i said, run compiz --replace
[17:59] <Myrtti> Marce_: please be patient
[17:59] <Marce_> _zeuz_ not sure in what?
[17:59] <Myrtti> dink: alt-f2
[17:59] <dink> where do i run that at
[17:59] <Myrtti> dink: type compiz --replace
[18:00] <_Zeus_> Marce_: you could take a look at your samba.conf
[18:00] <dink> compiz --replace
[18:00] <dink> just like that
[18:00] <_Zeus_> yes
[18:00] <Marce_> _Zeus_ i've edited smb.conf and i couldn't get it working
[18:00] <sjs> hello
[18:00] <_Zeus_> !hi
[18:01] <dink> dont think it worked :/
[18:01] <Marce_> _Zeus_ i can see the pc. i tested port 139 with telnet, it's ok
[18:01] <bobertdos> Marce_: Make sure your workgroups match, and if you're sharing home, you might want to create matching user logins for both systems. It might also be helpful to post your smb.conf on paste.ubuntu.com
[18:01] <Marce_> bobertdos: sure, gimme a sec, i'll show you
[18:01] <dink> not working :/
[18:02] <_Zeus_> dink: what do you mean...?
[18:02] <^A^kira> oh shit.... 1346 human beings here..... O.o
[18:02] <_Zeus_> !language | ^A^kira
[18:02] <dink> ok i downloaded compiz
[18:02] <_Zeus_> dink: what happened??/
[18:03] <dink> and dont know where to find it at
[18:03] <amaranth> привед толпа! давно вас не слышг
[18:03] <cole> hi all, has anyone any idea how to set up mldonkey?
[18:03] <_Zeus_> dink: ubuntu isn't really like windows
[18:03] <amaranth> ой не сюда
[18:03] <_Zeus_> !ru
[18:03] <_Zeus_> dink: press alt+f2 and press compiz --replace
[18:03] <^A^kira> amaranth: апшипся :)
[18:04] <aim1159> ^A^kira: dont' use russian here.
 ))  та да
[18:04] <amaranth> aim1159> ok)_  мы не будем
[18:04] <amaranth> вы все гавно))
[18:04] <^A^kira> aim1159: и тут ты? :)
[18:04] <compengi> !ru | amaranth
[18:04] <_Zeus_> !ru | amaranth
[18:04] <amaranth>  i am sorry_))))
[18:04] <^A^kira> sorry :)
[18:05] <kaneda_> does anyone here run ubuntu on a macbook pro?
[18:05] <^A^kira> heh
[18:05] <_Zeus_> nope
[18:05] <Marce_> bobertdos: ok.. here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/57075/
[18:05] <kaneda_> hmm, on a laptop?
[18:05] <_Zeus_> dink: what is the problem?
[18:05] <^A^kira> russian comunity joins #ubuntu :)
[18:06] <dink> meh
[18:06] <_Zeus_> !ask | kaneda_
[18:06] <bunnyto> whos russian here?
[18:06] <dink> i did what you  told me to and it didnt work.
[18:06] <KukMan> I'm
[18:06] <_Zeus_> what did it do, dink?
[18:06] <kaneda_> ok
[18:06] <kaneda_> sorry
[18:06] <KukMan> I'm from Ukraine. Ush4enko rulez :D
[18:06] <bunnyto> kukuruza
[18:06] <dink> showd my background screen
[18:06] <fbn> hi, how can I change the password ubuntu stores for wlan access?
[18:06] <dink> then went back to normal
[18:06] <aim1159> on any problem with russian-speaking users please contact me. i'm #ubuntu-ru op
[18:06] <_Zeus_> fbn: so you want to change your whole password
[18:06] <freakazoid> im from south africa, where ubuntu is from :p
[18:06] <kaneda_> i have my xorg.conf touchpad settings set to two finger tap right click, one finger tap nothing, three finger tap middle click
[18:07] <bunnyto> Ubuntu was made in Germany
[18:07] <_Zeus_> fbn: all of the apps use the same password
[18:07] <_Zeus_> bunnyto: no...
[18:07] <dink> ..
[18:07] <kaneda_> about 5-10 minutes after starting x windows it stops working and everything is turned to tap click
[18:07] <_Zeus_> dink: ok, open a terminal
[18:07] <freakazoid> err no bunnyto :P
[18:07] <_Zeus_> type the same thing
[18:07] <kaneda_> including tap 1 which is really annoyng
[18:07] <freakazoid> its made by mark shuttleworth
[18:07] <Marce_> bobertdos: ok.. here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/57075/
[18:07] <blah569> Ok, so I do not know if this would have to do with off resolution, however, look at this screenshot:  http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/5366/screenshotcj7.png  The top bar is also set to expland, and if you notice, the dock is not in the center.  I can also move applications in that open space.  The login screen is also off centered.
[18:07] <freakazoid> south african :P
[18:07] <dink> opened.
[18:07] <fbn> _Zeus_: I have changed my whole password, but gnome is still requesting the old one while enabling wlan
[18:07] <_Zeus_> now type compiz --replace
[18:08] <_Zeus_> fbn: did you log out and back in?
[18:08] <hypn0> kaneda_: what is tap click?
[18:08] <bunnyto> blah569: horrible
[18:08] <fbn> _Zeus_: yes, did a reboot
[18:08] <kaneda_> hypn0, one finger tap = single click
[18:08] <_Zeus_> fbn: how did you change the password?
[18:08] <dink> heh
[18:08] <dink> did the same thing.
[18:08] <fbn> _Zeus_: passwd fbn (fbn's my user)
[18:08] <blah569> bunnyto:  How?
[18:08] <_Zeus_> dink: now tell us what it said
[18:08] <DigitalFiz> blah569, does your monitor have dual outputs?
[18:08] <_Zeus_> !paste | dink
[18:08] <dink> it went to a background screen
[18:08] <_Zeus_> fbn: huh.. and the old password works
[18:08] <dink> then went back to normal
[18:09] <dink> thats it
[18:09] <blah569> DigitalFiz:  I believe so.
[18:09] <_Zeus_> dink: it probably gave a message...
[18:09] <kaneda_> it's SHMControl for Synaptics Touchpad
[18:09] <fbn> _Zeus_: Gnome login works with new password, enabling WLAN works with old one
[18:09] <bobertdos> marce_: So which of these is the one you're trying to share?
[18:09] <_Zeus_> fbn: that is odd
[18:09] <r0ach> Guys, I somehow managed to delete all files in my ext3 linux partition except home (which I need). But now, when I boot up, Grub shows "Error 15". It can't find a partition to boot on. I don't have linux so I need to boot to Windows. How can I do this ?
[18:09] <Marce_> the last one, nh-htdocs
[18:09] <dink> no msg at all.
[18:09] <shane_> hi all, has anyone any idea how to set up mldonkey?
[18:09] <_Zeus_> r0ach: use an xp disk to restore the MBR
[18:09] <freakazoid> bunnyto, wat makes u think its made in germany
[18:09] <fbn> _Zeus_: yes ... I think there is some place where gnome stores the password used for network access (and more?) but I don't know where or how to change it :(
[18:09] <kitche> r0ach: from a windows install cd boot into recovery mode and type fixmbr
[18:09] <_Zeus_> dink: please paste everything the terminal says
[18:09] <DigitalFiz> blah569, check in System -> Prefrences -> Screen Resolution that clone screen is unchecked mint did the same thing
[18:09] <kaneda_> _Zeus_, i would recommend win2k, doesn't ask for admin password
[18:10] <Marce_> bobertdos: it's the default config, the only i have changed is the last folder [nh-htdocs]
[18:10] <r0ach> I doesn't recognize my current windows installation
[18:10] <dink> thanks for the help. forget it i guess.
[18:10] <_Zeus_> r0ach: umm, is it still there?
[18:10] <_Zeus_> dink: ok...
[18:10] <_Zeus_> you're not helping
[18:10] <r0ach> Yes it is still there.
[18:10] <r0ach> Windows XP
[18:10] <kaneda_> r00tintheb0x, what did you do to the original win xp partition
[18:10] <kaneda_> err, r0ach
[18:11] <r0ach> @kitche: Can you pls explain that procedure ? In my Windows Disk, it tells me to select which drive to install Windows on.
[18:11] <blah569> DigitalFiz:  Clone screen was unchecked, however, wheneer I checked, it made everything how it should be, however, the resolution is way zoomed.
[18:11] <_Zeus_> r0ach: you would boot to a recovery console, and type fixmbr
[18:11] <_Zeus_> i think you press R when the cd starts
[18:11] <kaneda_> _Zeus_, this is correct
[18:11] <kitche> r0ach: you booted past the part where you select to boot into recovery mode
[18:11] <DigitalFiz> blah569, just play with that until you get what you need
[18:12] <kaneda_> _Zeus_, with an xp cd it will ask for admin password before going to recovery console
[18:12] <r0ach> I pressed F2 but it asked me for "Recovery Floppy Disk"
[18:12] <_Zeus_> r0ach: is that a problem?
[18:12] <r0ach> Whats this ?
[18:12] <Marce_> bobertdos: where should i search for logs? /var/log/samba/machine.log didn't give me info..
[18:12] <blah569> DigitalFiz:  I can't increase the resolution anymore though.
[18:12] <_Zeus_> r0ach: umm, i don't think F2 is the proper key
[18:12] <dink> better idea. when you download it where does the file go.
[18:12] <kaneda_> try F10 for a boot menu
[18:12] <bobertdos> marce_: It is generally easier to share homes, since that definition is already built in to the file. You can set up shares in other places, but it generally takes more work than that last entry. You can read about it in the wikis if you want, otherwise, I suggest using the homes share.
[18:12] <kaneda_> then CD
[18:12] <kaneda_> then it will load drivers
[18:12] <kaneda_> lots of them
[18:13] <kaneda_> then you can select install, repair
[18:13] <kaneda_> select repair -> recovery console
[18:13] <kaneda_> it will ask for an admin password (on xp)
[18:13] <kaneda_> then fixmbr
[18:13] <Marce_> bobertdos: look, i have already set up samba servers,and i got it working, now that i am using fedora, i am not able to set up this... it's rare
[18:13] <kaneda_> yes, you do want to do this
[18:13] <r0ach> @kaneda_: There's no repair option in my disk (for strange reasons)
[18:13] <dink> k...
[18:13] <kaneda_> r0ach, is it factory restore cd?
[18:14] <kaneda_> anyone know if recovery is included on OEM?
[18:14] <r0ach> @kaneda: I don't understand that. I got it off PirateBay (cracked disk in shory)
[18:14] <cyrusgod> hi there
[18:14] <_Zeus_> kaneda_: I have a OEM disk, i think it has it
[18:14] <kitche> r0ach: well your screwed then
[18:14] <kaneda_> *shrug*
[18:14] <kaneda_> r0ach, get another disc
[18:14] <_Zeus_> r0ach: thinking...
[18:14] <kaneda_> borrow one from a friend just to run fixmbr
[18:14] <cyrusgod> need help, pls!
[18:15] <bunnyto> CygnusX1: say
[18:15] <kaneda_> does anyone else have trouble with SHMControl for Synaptics Touchpad?
[18:15] <dink> does anyone know how to run compiz?
[18:15] <kaneda_> dink, sudo apt-get install fusion-icon
[18:15] <khelll> how can i run .mov files ?
[18:15] <cyrusgod> i can't expand my area work to the second TFT monitor
[18:15] <_Zeus_> dink: I told you, we want to see the console
[18:15] <r0ach> I tried ms-sys which basically installs MBR to a drive
[18:15] <kaneda_> sessions add fusion-icon
[18:15] <cyrusgod> how do i do that?
[18:15] <bobertdos> marce_: Ah, Fedora............hmm, well come to think of it, I've never used Samba with Fedora, so I don't know if there are different variables to account for or not........
[18:15] <cyrusgod> i'm using 8.04
[18:15] <kitche> dink: compiz --replace & and there you go it's running
[18:15] <r0ach> But, my system still boots to GRUB not the MBR I installed
[18:15] <shane_> cant he just use a live distro and install grub?
[18:15] <_Zeus_> dink: open a console, type compiz --replace &, and post it at paste.ubuntu.com
[18:15] <bunnyto> cyrusgod: read this
[18:16] <r0ach> @shane: Doesn't Grub need Linux ?
[18:16] <bunnyto> !dual
[18:16] <kitche> kaneda_: just be easier just to click the fusion-icon icon really instead of running it like that
[18:16] <LordFDisk> you could always read up on "fdisk /mbr"
[18:16] <kaneda_> *shrug*
[18:16] <kitche> kaneda_: or add it to the gnome one
[18:16] <kaneda_> it runs via gnome session manager on my machine
[18:16] <r0ach> @LordFDisk: What does "read up" mean ? (really I didnt understand)
[18:17] <_Zeus_> LordFDisk: we've been trying
[18:17] <cyrusgod> bunnyto: read what? sorry
[18:17] <_Zeus_> r0ach: what does it say when the cd starts?
[18:17] <chaddy> r0ach: read untill you understand, and you'll have read up
[18:17] <bunnyto> cyrusgod: what fideo card?
[18:17] <chaddy> -l
[18:17] <kaneda_> so no one runs SHMControl?
[18:17] <LordFDisk> r0ach,  Read up on the command to see if that is what your looking for
[18:17] <kitche> LordFDisk: considering that fdisk /mbr does not do what he wants really
[18:17] <r0ach> It asks me if I want to install third-party drivers ....
[18:17] <dink> when i do  compiz --replace it shows me my desktop background for three seconds, then goes back to normal and nothing happens.
[18:17] <lucax> i cannot enable reflections with compiz, i have an intel 950 gma... is it a card problem?
[18:17] <anavarro> hi everybody
[18:17] <cyrusgod> bunnyto: Ati 9600 xt 256 mb
[18:17] <_Zeus_> dink: SHOW ME THE TERMINAL
[18:17] <LordFDisk> ah
[18:18] <bunnyto> !ati
[18:18] <kaneda_> kitche, fixmbr will most likely have it booting directly to windows..
[18:18] <kitche> kaneda_: yes I know
[18:18] <akahige> ever since doing some app upgrades last week, my swap consumption has jumped dramatically. I've got 2GB, and it's jumped from a steady 10% to between 30 and 50%. is there a way do display which applications are using the swap the way you can see, say, memory consumption in top or proc mgr...?
[18:18] <r0ach> Then it asks me if I want recovery console
[18:18] <_Zeus_> he removed ubuntu, that's what he wants
[18:18] <kitche> kaneda_: fdisk /mbr is not the same as fixmbr though
[18:18] <kaneda_> taters! brb
[18:18] <r0ach> But I don't have this "Recovery Floppy"
[18:18] <dink> show you how?
[18:18] <anavarro> I'm getting problems to remove the mysql-server-5.0 package
[18:18] <kitche> r0ach: well get a real windows xp cd first instead of a hack job to do this
[18:18] <_Zeus_> dink: you started compiz from a terminal, right?  what does it say underneath?
[18:18] <kaneda_> kitche, i don't know what fdisk /mbr does, i thought fdisk wasn't included on anything except for 98 2nd edition :D
[18:19] <_Zeus_> yeah, i think what he wants is fixmbr
[18:19] <cyrusgod> !ati
[18:19] <kaneda_> oh yah, taters! brb
[18:19] <r0ach> @kitche: You have a point. But my gut tells my that if I can somehow disable GRUB, then I can use ms-sys to get MBR back. How do I get rid of GRUB ?
[18:20] <_Zeus_> r0ach: what do you mean?  you can't boot to anything until you get the mbr fixed
[18:20] <_Zeus_> r0ach: may i ask why you're dong this?
[18:21] <FPtje> hi
[18:21] <jim_p> hi
[18:21] <idefix> if you're the only one using your PC why is there still a difference between you and the root user?
[18:21] <anavarro> hey guys . . . . can you give me some help on removing mysql-server-5.0?
[18:21] <r0ach> @Zeus: Sorry. It was just a "Gut-Feeling"
[18:21] <chaddy> r0ach: you get rid of grub by running fixmbr on the ms recovery consolde
[18:21] <FPtje> At startup of my laptop I see a screen where I can chose what I want to run
[18:21] <idefix> hi
[18:21] <dink> this is what it says
[18:21] <dink> GConf backend: There is an unsupported value at path /apps/compiz/plugins/scale/allscreens/options/initiate_edge. Settings from this path won't be read. Try to remove that value so that operation can continue properly.
[18:21] <FPtje> and after 10 seconds it starts linux
[18:21] <FPtje> how do I put that to 0/ disable it
[18:21] <chaddy> s/de/e/
[18:21] <_Zeus_> dink: i see
[18:22] <_Zeus_> dink: that's the only line?
[18:22] <jim_p> idefix: because the root has infinite capabilities and he can destroy anything at a single mistake
[18:22] <dink> h.o
[18:22] <atlef> FPtje: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:22] <LuYu> does anybody know why the X fonts would magically become too big after an upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04?  or after a GDM install?
[18:22] <dink> ink@dink-desktop:~$ compiz --replace
[18:22] <dink> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[18:22] <dink> Detected PCI ID for VGA: 01:00.0 0300: 10de:0163 (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[18:22] <dink> Checking for texture_from_pixmap: present.
[18:22] <dink> Checking for non power of two support: present.
[18:22] <FloodBot3> dink: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:22] <LordFDisk> r0ach,  Maybe this link might help you. http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm
[18:22] <dink> Checking for Composite extension: present.
[18:22] <_Zeus_> change timeout   10 to timeout   1
[18:22] <idefix> but who is he?, jim_p?
[18:22] <r00tintheb0x> Way to flood.
[18:22] <LuYu> i cant need to track down the cause
[18:22] <_Zeus_> !paste | dink
[18:22] <atlef> FPtje: find the line with timeout in it and set it to 0
[18:22] <_Zeus_> better setting it to 1
[18:22] <jim_p> idefix: do you know the Administrator account in xp?
[18:23] <atlef> _Zeus_: ok
[18:23] <dink> you get all that?
[18:23] <r0ach> @Zeus: Here's the thing. I got this ms-sys thing which is "for writing Microsoft compatible boot records". So, I basically recovers MBR. But my system is still booting to GRUB
[18:23] <_Zeus_> dink: no, use pastebin
[18:23] <chaddy> dink: do pay attention
[18:23] <idefix> jim_p in windows in general yes
[18:23] <idefix> jim_p so, the distinction me-root is made for me when I'm sharp and concentrated and me in a regular mood?
[18:23] <_Zeus_> r0ach: whoa, you get grub?
[18:23] <FPtje> atlef
[18:23] <dink> where is pastebin
[18:23] <atlef> FPtje: ?
[18:23] <FPtje> there is no gruf folder in boot
[18:23] <FPtje> :(
[18:23] <chaddy> dink: aptitude install pastebinit
[18:23] <_Zeus_> dink: i sent the link to you at least 10x
[18:23] <r0ach> @Zeus: Of course. It just pops this Error 15
[18:23] <_Zeus_> !paste | dink
[18:23] <atlef> FPtje: grub
[18:23] <ndube> pastebin is a website
[18:23] <FPtje> isnt'there either
[18:23] <jim_p> idefix: hahaha partly yes
[18:24] <_Zeus_> r0ach: wait, so do you see entries?
[18:24] <f190> i got this batch of movie files, in wmv format, and although other wmv files work for me on my hardy installation, these wmvs are not working. any suggestions?
[18:24] <remusxix> vlc
[18:24] <_Zeus_> r0ach: you could press e, and edit the boot entry to get to windows
[18:24] <r0ach> @Zeus: Wud appreciate if u can tell me what that means
[18:24] <r0ach> No no
[18:24] <_Zeus_> ok
[18:24] <chaddy> ndube: no, pastebins are a class of websites
[18:24] <_Zeus_> so you never get the menu
[18:24] <FPtje> atlef grub isn  t there either
[18:24] <ndube> true
[18:24] <f190> they do not work in vlc remusxix. the video plays, but no sound is outputted
[18:24] <atlef> FPtje: well, every one else has it, so it is sort of strange
[18:24] <r0ach> @Zeus: It doesn't give me any options. Its not functional
[18:24] <FPtje> :/
[18:24] <remusxix> ah
[18:25] <_Zeus_> r0ach: k
[18:25] <FPtje> atlef I see folders like CS-CZ
[18:25] <ndube> chaddy:but i doubt the distinction is important
[18:25] <_Zeus_> ndube: it kind of is
[18:25] <FPtje> oh I was on wrong disk
[18:25] <chaddy> if you want to find one, for example
[18:26] <LordFDisk> http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/qna/1742.html  it says Using FDISK/MBR to remove GRUB
[18:26] <atlef> FPtje: try this, press alt and f2, then write gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst and enter your password
[18:26] <kitche> LordFDisk: then how will he get Microsoft's MBR installed?
[18:26] <FPtje> I have the file opened
[18:26] <FPtje> made the changes
[18:26] <FPtje> tried to save
[18:26] <ndube> i would venture to say the ubuntu pastebin is a website that contains many web-pages
[18:26] <FPtje> it says it cant save
[18:26] <kitche> LordFDisk: considering that just erases the partition table in the MBR
[18:27] <atlef> FPtje: try this, press alt and f2, then write gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst and enter your password
[18:27] <r0ach> Sorry, I had to pee
[18:27] <_Zeus_> FPtje: did you not put the gksu?
[18:27] <LordFDisk> maybe http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm
[18:27] <r0ach> Whats all the action ?
[18:27] <chaddy> the ubuntu pastebin is a pastebin, ndube, other people offer pastebin services
[18:27] <dink> sent
[18:27] <_Zeus_> dink: now give us the link
[18:27] <ndube> this is true, but we were referring to the ubuntu pastebin, which is more commonly used here than other are]
[18:28] <troy__> guys.. how can i resize ext2 partition, that mounted on / ?
[18:28] <dink> http://pastebin.com/m7fbe394a
[18:28] <f190> this thread seems to outline my problem, though no solution has been found here also: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5866067.
[18:28] <wal3> compengi: ok
[18:28] <_Zeus_> troy__: live cd
[18:28] <tiggers> gparted
[18:28] <ndube> you cannot resize a mounted partition, you can do it from a live cd
[18:28] <dink> done.
[18:28] <FPtje> It doesnt ask for a password
[18:28] <chaddy> ndube: sorry I thought you were trying to claim you couldn't aptitude install pastebinit
[18:28] <FPtje> and it cant save
[18:28] <_Zeus_> dink: good, now, what graphics card?
[18:28] <ndube> lol thats ok
[18:28] <FPtje> atlef
[18:28] <troy__> dont have live cd=(
[18:28] <Finnish> How do I make a ISO out of audio cd?
[18:28] <dink> geforce 6200 le
[18:28] <tiggers> Finnish, k3b will do it
[18:29] <ndube> troy_: google gparted live cd
[18:29] <_Zeus_> dink: try installing the package nvidia-glx-new
[18:29] <troy__> so i have to switch to wxp =)
[18:29] <dink> in add/remove?
[18:29] <Finnish> tiggers: Can you help me a bit?
[18:29] <FPtje> atlef it didnt ask for a password and I cant save
[18:29] <ndube> troy_: that is the smallest download that I know of
[18:29] <chaddy> Finnish: using dd is the usual way
[18:29] <Finnish> With it
[18:29] <tiggers> Finnish, do sudo apt-get install k3b
[18:29] <r0ach> Guys, here's all my details, I can boot to Grub but it gives "ERROR 15". But pressing 'e' doesn't do anything. See I accidently deleted the "/boot" dir from the partition so it can't find the boot files. So, I don't want to use Grub right now. I want to use Windows MBR since I've Windows XP. How can I do this ?
[18:29] <_Zeus_> dink: no, use apt-get.  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[18:29] <troy__> thank you all) bye
[18:29] <Finnish> Done already
[18:29] <tiggers> then open k3b under sound/audio and it has a menu
[18:29] <anavarro> guys
[18:29] <jester7> does anybody here use VMWare server on ubuntu server?
[18:29] <_Zeus_> dink: actually, do you have any restricted drivers that you're not using?
[18:29] <_Zeus_> jester7: i have
[18:29] <anavarro> can you give me a hand??
[18:29] <ndube> jester7: yes
[18:30] <dink> let me chec,mk
[18:30] <chaddy> r0ach: load a live cd, grub-install
[18:30] <tiggers> jester7, my college does
[18:30] <FPtje> ATLEF
[18:30] <diskin> After upgrade from gutsy to hardy my laptop fan is always on, however, frequency is changing ondemand as needed. Is it a known problem? I have AMD Turion CPU.
[18:30] <atlef> FPtje: press alt and f2, then write gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst and enter your password
[18:30] <chaddy> r0ach: then from grub enter XP and it's recovery console, do fixmbr
[18:30] <kitche> r0ach: we told you if you have no recovery option on your instlal cd then you can't do what we told you
[18:30] <dink> graphix card
[18:30] <dink> but im using it
[18:30] <chaddy> s/it's/its/
[18:30] <atlef> FPtje: did you do this
[18:30] <FPtje> I did that!!
[18:30] <FPtje> yes!
[18:30] <r0ach> @chaddy: You mean : "sudo apt-get install grub". It says Grub is already newest version.
[18:30] <jester7> wow, excellent.  my question is, if i were to install ubuntu server, with no gui of course, and vmware server, should i be able to host a Windows XP guest without a problem?
[18:30] <FPtje> it didnt ask for a password
[18:30] <ndube> yes
[18:31] <atlef> FPtje: strange
[18:31] <dink> thats the only one im using
[18:31] <skydeath> hello
[18:31] <chaddy> no, r0ach, I mean sudo grub-install
[18:31] <kitche> jester7: yes you just need a client
[18:31] <chaddy> hence that's what I typed...
[18:31] <r0ach> @chady: I'll try it. But I don't have a "Recovery Disk" :(
[18:31] <kitche> chaddy: grub-install won't work since he doesn't even have a /boot
[18:31] <mochabcha> how do you use xf86-input-joystick
[18:31] <ndube> skydeath:hello
[18:31] <jester7> kitche: would it run without the client, meaning, could i just leave it running on the server and connect maybe via RDP or simply access it through the ntwork?
[18:31] <dink> only drivers in use is my graphics
[18:32] <shane_> when i had that problem all i did was use a live cd and install grub
[18:32] <FPtje> now it worked
[18:32] <dink> which i am using
[18:32] <chaddy> kitche: well it's not a stretch to get him into gparted once he's in a live disc
[18:32] <atlef> FPtje: open a terminal and write the same, gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:32] <FPtje> after I executed in terminal
[18:32] <FPtje> It worked
[18:32] <FPtje> thanks
[18:32] <FPtje> next problem :P
[18:32] <mochabcha> I'm looking to make a user account in Ubuntu that I can use for console emulation.
[18:32] <FPtje> when I open something it opens just outside the screen
[18:32] <dink> ello?
[18:32] <FPtje> with the close/minimize/maximize buttons out of sight
[18:32] <mochabcha> I want a cool looking GUI that can be controlled with a joystick and easily viewable on a tv
[18:32] <chaddy> and kitche, even without a /boot partition he could write /boot in /
[18:32] <kitche> jester7: depends on what you installed as a client really
[18:33] <mochabcha> Elisa would work fine If it could be used to open emulators
[18:33] <dink> meh
[18:33] <r0ach> @chaddy, @kitche: It tells me "install_device not specified."
[18:33] <dink> any one use compiz?
[18:33] <FPtje> me
[18:33] <FPtje> dink me
[18:33] <chaddy> r0ach: you need to carefully work out which device you want to install it on
[18:33] <billybigrigger> morning all
[18:33] <FPtje> hi
[18:33] <r0ach> Hmmm....
 k where do you run it from
[18:33] <FPtje> ubuntu of course
[18:33] <jester7> kitche: not sure what you mean
[18:33] <dink> yes but where
[18:34] <FPtje> Idk what you mean
[18:34] <dink> how do you get to it
[18:34] <FPtje> oh you have to download something
[18:34] <FPtje> a package
[18:34] <dink> i did
[18:34] <dink> after that
[18:34] <r0ach> @chaddy: So, its like "sudo grub-install hdX" where hdX is the partition of Windows ?
[18:34] <dink> where do you go to find it at
[18:34] <FPtje> go to system>preferences
[18:34] <FPtje> and then
[18:34] <dystopianray> does anyone know if it is possible to force a particular application to use mesa software rendering?
[18:34] <dink> k
[18:34] <dink> which one
[18:34] <FPtje> advanced desktop effects settings
[18:34] <chaddy> r0ach: probably time to find you a link to keep you busy
[18:34] <FPtje> :D
[18:34] <Centi> Hey folks, you guys know where I can find a list of supported hardware for 8.10?
[18:35] <FPtje> I'm new to ubuntu too dink
[18:35] <FPtje> :D
[18:35] <dink> :>D
[18:35] <billybigrigger> i have a quick question, i just loaded up ibex server beta on my haha "server" machine, just bascially a headless file/print server, now when i go ssh into the box it gives me a warning that it might be an attack which i know its not cause i just installed a new os, but how do i reset the host key? i'd have to remove it from my laptop correct? and where is that installed? ~/.ssh????
[18:35] <r0ach> @chaddy: lol chaddy
[18:35] <dink> ok
[18:35] <FPtje> Well pretty new
[18:35] <lucax> if i want to install xgl i just need to install xserver-xgl??
[18:35] <dink> can you send me msg
[18:35] <dink> to many words
[18:35] <FPtje> I have used the 7 version before on my pc
[18:35] <FPtje> !pm dink
[18:35] <dink> what is it called again
[18:35] <kitche> billybigrigger: ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[18:35] <billybigrigger> kitche: yeah just delete that one entry right?
[18:36] <FPtje> advances effe
[18:36] <dink> ^.-
[18:36] <FPtje> advanced desktop effect settings
[18:36] <FPtje> it was
[18:36] <chaddy> r0ach: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/recovering-from-grub-install-devhda1-deleting-windows-xp-boot-loader-242025/
[18:36] <dink> k
[18:36] <FPtje> Himbeer
[18:36] <mochabcha> does anybody know if Elisa can open other programs like emulators
[18:36] <dink> let me look
[18:36] <lucax> !xgl
[18:36] <chaddy> have a look at that, r0ach, but don't follow it slavishly, try to be sure you are installing grub in the right place
[18:36] <r0ach> Can someone explain this : http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/qna/1742.html . Something tells me it maybe my answer.
[18:36] <FPtje> Brb poop
[18:36] <r0ach> @chaddy: Reading it now, man
[18:37] <deathtech> http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubunutu/+source/linux/+bug/201591  <--- please post here if you are having the framebuffer issue when enabling and swapping terms it goes blank . This is affecting the newest Kernel as well as hardy and intrepid isntallations using it.
[18:37] <humbolt> is there still an ubuntu for nokia n800 like devices?
[18:38] <mgolisch> humbolt: i dont think so
[18:38] <mgolisch> ubuntu doesnt support arm
[18:38] <mgolisch> if iam not wrong
[18:38] <anavarro> PLEASE!!! CAN YOU HELP!!!
[18:39] <r0ach> Does pressing "R" in the Windows Setup give me option to recover previous install ?
[18:39] <sudoconfused> you as operator? You should be a comedian.
[18:39] <beautifulsnow> #ubuntu-offtopic  ?
[18:39] <anavarro> THERE IS NO WAY TO LOGIN AS ROOT OR ANYBODY OR EVEN TO REMOVE THE MYSQL!!!!
[18:39] <humbolt> mgolisch: actually I do not care about ARM. I care more about the slim software stack and want to run it on x86 anyways.
[18:39] <chaddy> r0ach: there is a #windows channel, you might get more canonical answers there
[18:40] <anavarro> THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE !!!!
[18:40] <f190> meh, apparently vlc and mplayer dont support the latest wmv encoding. any ideas on how i can get the wmv videos to play?
[18:40] <chaddy> ages since I used fixmbr, I'm afraid
[18:40] <chaddy> anavarro: CAPS
[18:40] <Centi> anavarro, sudo -s
[18:40] <mgolisch> humbolt: i think there is mobile and this netbook-remix thing, maybe look at that
[18:40] <Centi> and dont use caps
[18:40] <jester7> but the caps emphasizes his rage
[18:40] <jester7> :p
[18:40] <r0ach> @chaddy: Thx man. I'll check them out after I try out these new stuff that I learned.
[18:40] <Myrtti> anavarro: sudo aptitude remove --purge mysql-server-5.0
[18:41] <chaddy> no worries, r0ach, just take it slow and you should be ok
[18:41] <kitche> anavarro: myself I have no issues with mysql
[18:41] <anavarro> i just try that
[18:41] <anavarro> this remeber me to windows
[18:41] <anavarro> my god
[18:41] <mochabcha> does anyone know how to control elisa with a joystick or how to use it to control emulators
[18:41] <r0ach> @chaddy: Thousand thanks man. Now my gut is telling me, I've figured out a direction.
[18:41] <Tophat> how can i get my windows to maximize but not be behind my AWM ?
[18:41] <chaddy> good stuff
[18:41] <r0ach> :)
[18:42] <mochabcha> I want to make a ubuntu media account that can be totally controlled from a joystick and viewed with the tv
[18:42] <mochabcha> any other solutions would be helpful
[18:42] <kitche> anavarro: most people have issues because they don't install the full mysql
[18:42] <kaneda_> hey, so it works for a little while like i have it set in my xorg.conf
[18:42] <kaneda_> http://rafb.net/p/oEejcR96.html
[18:42] <Centi> and an answer to my own question; HW supported in Ubuntu 8.10  if some one else is interested: http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_27
[18:42] <kaneda_> but then stop working and goes back to default..
[18:42] <chaddy> mochabcha: I'd start with mythbuntu
[18:43] <chaddy> it should do most of the heavy lifting
[18:43] <mochabcha> what is that
[18:43] <kitche> Centi: well your question was more for #ubuntu+1 and not here really
[18:43] <r0ach> Bye Guys, I need to try out these stuff with the Windows Disk I have
[18:43] <r0ach> Thx and Bye :)
[18:43] <_Zeus_> gl
[18:43] <anavarro> I have been working with mysql for about a year
[18:43] <anavarro> without problems
[18:43] <bahr> Hi, are there some app for ubuntu which is like Microsoft OneNote for taking notes in classes?
[18:44] <chaddy> mochabcha: if you catch yourself typing "what is that" slap yourself on the wrist for not using google
[18:44] <anavarro> today suddenly
[18:44] <xomp> for some raisin, I'm getting a verbose boot. The ubuntu loading thing goes through it's thing as normal, then I'm presented with 12 pages of "Loading this, Starting that". Anyway to stop this?
[18:44] <_Zeus_> bahr: what is onenote like?
[18:44] <anavarro> stop to accept connections
[18:44] <BenHoltz> can someone help me with the message "No application is registered as handling this file" when trying to connect to a "windows share" in connect to server?
[18:44] <mochabcha> so sorry <slap slap>
[18:44] <Centi> kitche, that channel was not mentioned on the Unbuntu support page AFAIK
[18:44] <chaddy> mochabcha: also it's polite to ask if you can /msg someone first
[18:44] <_Zeus_> BenHoltz: have you installed smbfs?
[18:44] <Centi> But thanks ;)
[18:44] <anavarro> and I realize that I cant remove it ether
[18:44] <kitche> Centi: no but if you read the topic like your suppose to it says right there for Intrepid help
[18:44] <chaddy> especially if you are just /msg-ing questions you could be googling
[18:44] <mochabcha> thank you, but how are you talking to just me
[18:44] <BenHoltz> _Zeus_: yes
[18:45] <mochabcha> are you just typing my name then color
[18:45] <mochabcha> colon
[18:45] <_Zeus_> BenHoltz: not sure then
[18:45] <bahr> _Zeus_: well, you have tabs for different kind of lectures, different kind of markers for definitions, reminders, points, etc. and easy to use drawing tools for making models etc.
[18:45] <_Zeus_> bahr: huh, not sure.
[18:45] <mochabcha> chaddy: is this how its done
[18:45] <chaddy> mochabcha: I'm typing mo then tab, that auto completes your /nick and many others, it only shows in colour to you
[18:46] <mazpe> interesting.. it seems that most spam blocker sites do not like amazon cloud computing
[18:46] <BenHoltz> I'm having the message "No application is registered as handling this file" when trying to connect to a "windows share" in connect to server, I have samba and smbf installed. Any advice to fix it?
[18:46] <chaddy> mochabcha: it makes it possible to have a conversation over the hubbub
[18:46] <Centi> kitche, hardware support is a intrepid question?
[18:46] <mazpe> a reply from abuse.net "Amazon customers is unwelcome here"
[18:46] <_Zeus_> BenHoltz: no need to repeat the question
[18:46] <BenHoltz> smbfs*
[18:46] <mochabcha> it doesn't do that in ChatZilla, but when i typed in your name did it alert you
[18:46] <kitche> Centi: considering that you asked about 8.10
[18:46] <chaddy> yes, mochabcha
[18:46] <kaneda_> if anyone has any thoughts on my SHMConfig problem feel free to msg me
[18:46] <kaneda_> thanks
[18:46] <mochabcha> chaddy: nvm it does it in ChatZilla
[18:47] <chaddy> :)
[18:47] <mochabcha> chaddy: I just have to type more
[18:47] <_Zeus_> BenHoltz: are you sure all the info is right?
[18:47] <mochabcha> chaddy: sorry for being so green
[18:47] <gbear14275> how do i open a priveleged gui session?  I forgot the command
[18:47] <chaddy> mochabcha: quite alright
[18:47] <gbear14275> sudo I got... but gnome doesn't work
[18:47] <_Zeus_> gbear14275: just type sudo -i
[18:47] <Centi> kitche, nvm leading question. I would be concidered a normal question for other OSes
[18:47] <_Zeus_> in the normal console
[18:47] <BenHoltz> _Zeus_: as far as connecting to the server?  yes  I can do it in nautilus with sbm://
[18:47] <BenHoltz> smb*
[18:48] <_Zeus_> BenHoltz: you're sure you filled in all the fields right
[18:48] <Appi> hi anyone please help me in configuring mysql in eclipse
[18:48] <kitche> Centi: it still a normal question just that they want 8.10 questions in it's channel so it does flood this channel really at least until it gets released
[18:48] <gbear14275> sudo -i didn't bring up a gui session
[18:48] <Centi> kitche, 10-4
[18:48] <kitche> gbear14275: it won't sudo -i just logs you in as root
[18:49] <BenHoltz> _Zeus_: yes
[18:49] <mochabcha> chaddy: can mythbuntu be controlled with a joystick, have you used it before
[18:49] <InHisName> I got my nvidia card working with ubuntu just fine UNTIL I reboot.  Right after the login screen, The video resets from what it was supposed to be to 1280x1024.  What would I look for to see what is resetting my screen size?
[18:50] <chaddy> mochabcha: I've used it a little, there will be more help for you in #mythbuntu, probably
[18:50] <gbear14275> yeah was hoping to remember how to upen up a priveleged gui session
[18:50] <chaddy> mochabcha: controlling it with a joystick doesn't sound unreasonable
[18:50] <mochabcha> chaddy: SWEET!!
[18:50] <BenHoltz> _Zeus_: I get an error popup box: Could not open location 'smb://192.168.1.138/' No application is registered as handling this file
[18:50] <anavarro> there is no way to remove mysql-server-5.0
[18:51] <Appi> hi I am new to ubuntu please help me in configuring mysql in eclipase
[18:51] <mochabcha> chaddy: you've been leagues of help, I'll be on my way now, gotta go to work
[18:51] <chaddy> no worries, mochabcha
[18:51] <andresmh> does anyone use Adobe Air on Ubuntu?
[18:51] <andresmh> (anyone here)
[18:51] <anavarro> please, someone can give me a hand??
[18:52] <DataGhost> if I install ubuntu, will it be tailored to the hardware it's running on (especially X config etc) or is it still fairly portable across x86 platforms like a livecd?
[18:52] <Myrtti> anavarro: you've not given us enough details to help you with your problem.
[18:52] <Myrtti> anavarro: please tell, what you've tried this far
 I try the command you tell
 and have no luck
[18:53] <Myrtti> anavarro: please tell me what happens
[18:54] <anavarro> ok
[18:54] <Myrtti> anavarro: if the output is long, use pastebin
[18:54] <anavarro> this is the problem
[18:54] <Myrtti> !pastebin | anavarro
[18:54] <gbear14275> so I was helped with a command before about how to open up in a window a priveleged GUI... does anyone know the command to do that?
 what is that
pastebin
[18:55] <Myrtti> !pastebin > anavarro
[18:55] <mroc> i have an ubuntu-windows dual boot question:  i had things installed as dual boot, everything worked.   the ubuntu partition was deleted using the delete function on an xp recovery disk (don't ask...).  what would be the best way to make this machine bootable again?  thanks in advance, sorry if this isn't really the right place to ask.
[18:56] <jim_p> mroc: reinstall ubuntu since its not there
[18:56] <metalx1000> I just installed Ubuntu Hardy 8.04 on a Dell inspiron 1525 for a friend.  After installing it I did all up dates with a wired network connection.  The network manager can see my router but it won't connect.  I have WPA on my router and I know I'm typing in the right passphrase.
[18:56] <Myrtti> mroc: use fixmbr on the recovery disk
[18:56] <metalx1000> I have 2 eee pc 900 with ubuntu installed and they connect just fine to my network
[18:57] <gbear14275> ... ok maybe I can frame it differently.... aside from reenabling the root account.... whats the best way to run as root in a gui
[18:57] <mroc> Myrtti: i looked at that.  i was a little concerned by the messages about losing info.  should those be ignored?
[18:57] <unop> gbear14275, gksu nautilus  #perhaps?
[18:57] <DataGhost> mroc only if you have backups of the data that is about to be potentially destroyed
[18:58] <unop> gbear14275, be very careful with this tho
[18:58] <DataGhost> mroc though it usually tends to work without data loss (the ntfs partition, that is)
[18:58] <mroc> DataGhost: well, the most important stuff is saved...but it would be nice if the risk of losing it all is low.
 can I paste you the error trying to remove mysql?
[18:59] <Myrtti> mroc: you could do a backup using an Ubuntu disk, but I've never used it
[18:59] <Myrtti> anavarro: why don't you use that pastebin service I gave you the url of?
[18:59] <mroc> DataGhost: ok, good to know.   i thought about the option jim_p mentioned but the install process seems to just get caught in a loop of accessing the disk but never loading the partition options.
[18:59] <gbear14275> not bringing anything up for some reason... I have a feeling that means something is wrog
[18:59] <gbear14275> wrong...
[18:59] <Myrtti> anavarro: or ubottu did
 I dont know what is that
[19:00] <Myrtti> !pastebin | anavarro, please look at this as Myrtti requests
[19:00] <gbear14275> could it be due to having both gdm and kde installed?
[19:00] <mroc> Myrtti: do you just mean booting the live cd and mounting the hd to make backups, or are you referring to something else?
[19:01] <Myrtti> mroc: that exactly
[19:01] <daedalus__> witam
 I dont know what your talking about
[19:03] <LjL> anavarro: /join #ubuntu-ops please
[19:04] <overlordpuppy> Is there any program in Ubuntu to aide in the learning of Norwegian? I tried LingoTeach, but the closest thing they have is Swedish.
[19:04] <anavarro> ok
[19:04] <mroc> Myrtti: that usuallyworks well, i've done that on other computers.  it seems to have trouble mounting the partition though.  not sure windows shut down cleanly and it's not bootable at the moment.
[19:05] <metalx1000> Can anyone help me with this problem?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/57093/
ok
done
[19:05] <InHisName> What files are being run during boot after the login and password are entered in the login screen?   I am looking for part that is changing my screen resolution to a lousy setting.  I can put it back but prefer to not need to.
[19:06] <LjL> anavarro: so look at what i've told you in there
[19:07] <dimm> hello! i know that this place most is not for my question, but i don't know another irc channel for my question. Who use the x7chat2?
[19:07] <Co0L> hi all)
[19:07] <DataGhost> but anyone on my original question? if I install ubuntu, will it be tailored to the hardware it's running on (especially X config etc) or is it still fairly portable across x86 platforms like a livecd?
[19:07] <|chiz|> does anyone know if there is a webapp to control a scanner?
[19:08] <Co0L> I have a problems with make :( http://paste.org.ru/?31nos4
[19:08] <Co0L> Need help :(
[19:08] <compengi> dimm, just shoot your question. and who ever uses xchat or knows the answer will answer you
[19:08] <kitche> DataGhost: it's pretty generic but xorg.conf will be set to your machine
[19:08] <grizlo42> hi i have a hardy install that i was trying to upgrade, and it froze part way through installing the packages, and restarted
[19:08] <DataGhost> kitche hm so I have to go figure out how live cds fix it then? :(
[19:08] <sudoconfused> cya DataGhost
[19:08] <dasickis> if i'm installing from usb how do i get past the "Mount CD-ROM" step?
[19:08] <DataGhost> sudoconfused?
[19:08] <grizlo42> now when i try to log in, it goes through the login screen, checks the password, and then shows a blank screen with the mouse
[19:09] <kitche> DataGhost: livecd's tend to autogen xorg.conf with xorgconfig or X --configure
[19:09] <dasickis> where do i find where the usb is mounted? i tried to say use /dev/sdb1 instead of /dev/cdrom but no help
[19:09] <DataGhost> kitche ah nice, I'll look into that then :) thanks
[19:09] <dimm> compengi, yes. but x7chat2 is not xchat. it is a web-chat . ;-)
[19:09] <Lartza_> Hi! I booted from ubuntu live cd i burned and chose the check disc for errors. It completed and showed no errors, but now i cant boot to windows(thats only os this pc has) It says GRUB Error Stage15(i think it's 15)
[19:09] <DataGhost> Lartza_ stage 1.5 likely
[19:10] <DataGhost> Lartza_ as far as I know it means that GRUB can't find your /boot partition
[19:10] <Guinnesss> Lartza: Did you try and install Ubuntu?
[19:10] <Lartza_> i have no ubuntu...
[19:10] <dimm> compengi, if you interested for this, i can paste urlof homepage for x7chat. it is have simple installation, but have some problem with cyrillic symbols. http://www.x7chat.com/
[19:11] <Lartza_> "﻿but now i cant boot to windows(thats only os this pc has)"
ok, this is the url
http://paste.ubuntu.com/57097/
[19:11] <Guinnesss> Take out the cd and try to boot.
[19:11] <ikaruga2099> hey is there a way to convert openoffice (odt) documents into txt or html IN THE COMMANDLINE?
[19:11] <Lartza_> so hard drives are ntfs and all plain windows
[19:11] <tavi> where i can see the errors of the system ?
[19:11] <tavi> when he crash
this is the pastebin url http://paste.ubuntu.com/57097/
[19:12] <tavi> and see the hdd whit a live cd
[19:12] <FPtje> hi again
[19:12] <FPtje> nother question
[19:12] <r0ach> Guys, nothing worked
[19:12] <r0ach> I lost all the files in /boot
[19:12] <FPtje> I've got a printer on a windows vista pc, shared
[19:12] <jrib> Lartza_: google "fixmbr", ##windows for windows support
[19:12] <r0ach> Anyway to restore those files ?
[19:12] <FPtje> when I try to access it through ubuntu I just see some folders
[19:13] <FPtje> how to use the printer on ubuntu?
[19:13] <Lartza_> jrib: well this was not windows issue on my opinion well not fully so i thought i ask here this is more freindly than windows channel, thank you
[19:13] <jrib> Lartza_: you need to run fixmbr from the windows install disk, they'll help you out in #windows
[19:13] <compengi> dimm, i didn't mean to refer the question for me. i don't use this client.
[19:13] <jrib> ##
[19:14] <DataGhost> Lartza_ you didn't install ubuntu and you still get the error when you remove the ubuntu livecd from the cd tray?
[19:14] <jrib> Lartza_: I'm correct in understanding that you don't want to use ubuntu right?
[19:14] <grizlo42> does any one have any ideas on what to do?
[19:15] <grizlo42> i have tried restarting in recovery mode, but the ethernet connection doesn't start up when i plug it in from that
[19:15] <FPtje> whoops
[19:15] <FPtje> anyway
[19:15] <FPtje> 4how to use the printer on ubuntu?
[19:16] <Lartza_> DataGhost: i runned check disc but i think its drive, translation issue
[19:16] <Lartza_> jrib: not yet, and only fual boot
[19:16] <compengi> !printer > FPtje
[19:16] <Lartza_> jrib: i need windows tomorrow for couple hours then i reinstall it and intall ubuntu as dual boot
[19:17] <gnoe> hi..
[19:17] <Lartza_> but problem fixed i hope, i just enter the xp cd
[19:17] <Lartza_> i need to go now so cya all
[19:17] <ikaruga2099> hey anyone know how to convert odt files to html or text files on the *commandline*?
[19:18] <compengi> FPtje, it's simple anyways. if ubuntu supports it. when you plug it in, it's detected. if not, you need to read guides on how to install the driver
[19:18] <HideousNashimoto> IS THERE ANY DECENT SCREEN RECORDING TOOL FOR UBUNTU??? i WANT TO UPLOAD SOME MOVIES TO YOUTUBE, AND I WANT THAT THEY HAVE QUALITY
[19:18] <compengi> !shout | HideousNashimoto
[19:18] <jrib> HideousNashimoto: please fix your caps lock
[19:18] <FPtje> ok thanks
[19:19] <|chiz|> HideousNashimoto: gtk-recordmydesktop
[19:19] <HideousNashimoto> Not good enough
[19:19] <jrib> !screencasts > HideousNashimoto
[19:19] <HideousNashimoto> gtk-recordmydesktop=istanbul
[19:19] <HideousNashimoto> same *hit
[19:19] <jrib> !screencast > HideousNashimoto
[19:19]  * BenHoltz hides
[19:19] <kaneda_> hey, does anyone know about SHMConfig?
[19:19] <ikaruga2099> HideousNashimoto: I've had moderate success with screen-cast-o-matic
[19:20] <jrib> kaneda_: best to just ask the channel your question
[19:20] <kaneda_> :\
[19:20] <kaneda_> my shmconfig works properly for about 10 minutes into starting xwindows
[19:20] <kaneda_> then it stops working and everything goes back to defaults
[19:21] <ale_> Bon!
[19:21] <jrib> kaneda_: check for anything interesting /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:21] <kaneda_> jrib, k, brb
[19:22] <compengi> jrib, does ubuntu has "X -configure" script anyways?
[19:22] <jrib> !xconfig | compengi
[19:23] <kaneda_> it appears to load synaptics without a problem
[19:23] <darweth> Hello --- I understand nvidia prop drivers do not work for my card in Ibex (.71/.96) etc.  How do I revert to the open source NV driver?  And will NV driver have access to nvidia-settings controls?
[19:23] <compengi> jrib, i know that. because X -configure does a great job :)
[19:24] <HideousNashimoto> istanbul & recordmydesktop, lags everything, and  It is taking too LONG to respond
[19:24] <kaneda_> jrib, (**) Synaptics Touchpad: always reports core events
[19:24] <kaneda_> (WW) Configured Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one...
[19:24] <kaneda_> (II) Configured Mouse: Setting Device option to "/dev/input/mice"
[19:24] <kaneda_> (--) Configured Mouse: Device: "/dev/input/mice"
[19:24] <kaneda_> (==) Configured Mouse: Protocol: "Auto"
[19:24] <FloodBot3> kaneda_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:24] <paul68> !ibex |darweth
[19:24] <kaneda_> it was two lines :\
[19:24] <darweth> Thanks.
[19:24] <kaneda_> how did it get to be that much
[19:24] <tritium> kaneda_: no, it was more.  Scroll up, and count.
[19:24] <kaneda_> blast, carriages
[19:25] <HideousNashimoto> In process of saving to disk, HOW LONG IT takes to save 1 min video to DISK??!?!?!
[19:25] <popey> HideousNashimoto: what video driver and cpu? I have no issues with recordmydesktop?
[19:25] <kaneda_> (--) Configured Mouse: Device: "/dev/input/mice"
[19:25] <kaneda_> this is what i was looking for
[19:25] <HideousNashimoto> I have ati x1250 mobility
[19:25] <Myrtti> HideousNashimoto: depends fully on your hardware
[19:25] <birdwin> can anyone give me help with installing ubuntu?
[19:25] <birdwin> or am i in the wrong chan
[19:25] <HideousNashimoto> well camtasia worked good enough on my drivers
[19:25] <popey> HideousNashimoto: I've had success with a 2GHz CPU recording at 1280x720 just fine
[19:25] <compengi> HideousNashimoto, it takes surely more that 1 minutes to convert a video :)
[19:25] <kaneda_> 	Option		"Device"	"/dev/psaux"
[19:25] <kaneda_> that's what i have it set to in xorg.conf
[19:26] <HideousNashimoto> It is still in process of saving to disk.... OMG!!!!!!!!!1
[19:26] <HideousNashimoto> and there is no any process bar
[19:26] <Wargasm> probably froze...
[19:26] <HideousNashimoto> where I cansee what it is doing
[19:26] <popey> HideousNashimoto:  open it in a terminal and run from there
[19:26] <Wargasm> it probably crashed if its not doing anything
[19:26] <Wargasm> try running as sudo
[19:26] <kaneda_> jrib, http://rafb.net/p/tqWFm618.html
[19:26] <|chiz|> HideousNashimoto: if you had of used gtk-recordmydesktop it should have had a progress bar
[19:27] <HideousNashimoto> Okay
[19:27] <birdwin> anyone?
[19:27] <popey> birdwin: what specifically do you want to know?
[19:27] <popey> !install
[19:27] <chaddy> birdwin: do you have a particular problem?
[19:28] <birdwin> well i want to dual boot with xp, and i'm wondering if i should make a 2nd partition with partition magic or just fire up the ubuntu install and it'll do it for me
[19:28] <chaddy> birdwin: it's fairly straight forward to test it out with WUBI from windows
[19:28] <Wargasm> use ubuntu's partition manager
[19:28] <plamar> what are .sh files, script files?
[19:28] <popey> birdwin: http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/MoS2007/09_Installing_Ubuntu_Part_1
[19:28] <chaddy> birdwin: WUBI will give you a dual boot without messing with partitioning
[19:28] <popey> birdwin: that video shows you how to install ubuntu
[19:28] <popey> birdwin: you don't need to make a partition - the installer does it for you
[19:29] <plamar> how do I execute .sh files? ./file.sh?
[19:29] <birdwin> ah. thanks to all.
[19:29] <popey> birdwin: the installer can resize your xp partition for example
[19:29] <popey> plamar: sh file.sh
[19:29] <chaddy> plamar: provided they are chmod +x, yes
[19:29] <plamar> aww, ok
[19:29] <gbear14275> ok, so nautilus wont launch in a seperate window for me it seems
[19:30] <gbear14275> does "gksu nautilus" work to launch a seperate gui window for you guys?
[19:30] <mroc> any word on the installer hanging on the partitioning step in 8.04?  trying to reinstall ubuntu alongside an ntfs and unpartitoined space.
[19:30] <beautifulsnow> Hello, anyone know how I might go about making my USB drive (ext3)
[19:30] <beautifulsnow> oops
[19:31] <birdwin> popey: the directions still apply to 8.10? and also with the normal (read: not live) CD?
[19:31] <plamar> I get "Syntax error: end of file unexpected (expecting "fi")
[19:31] <popey> birdwin: pretty much - and there are other guides, part 2 shows the alternate cd i think
[19:31] <Wargasm> beautifulsnow, what do you need to do with your usb drive?
[19:31] <plamar> does that mean I have the wrong sh version?
[19:31] <birdwin> gotcha
[19:31] <birdwin> thanks for the help
[19:31] <beautifulsnow> Hello, anyone know how I might go about making my USB drive (ext3)mount AND be usable at boot? Simply writing down an entry on fstab isn't cutting it ^^
[19:32] <popey> birdwin: no problem - comments / suggestions welcome :)
[19:32] <popey> birdwin: my email address is in the video
[19:32] <birdwin> aha
[19:32] <birdwin> duly noted
[19:32] <compengi> beautifulsnow, you want to make your USB drive bootable?
[19:33] <rfxcasey> Hey all I got a big problem. I was using the update manager and it keeps telling me "Not all updated can be installed" then it says I can do a partial update. When I do the partial it tells me all these updates can't be authenticated. When I restart the update manager it happens all over again? Help Please!
[19:33] <pr0gr4mm3r> Hi, I have a question about upgrading to 8.04 from 7.10 on a server: The upgrade has been going smoothly so far, but it is hanging at "Generating locales...\n en_US.UTF-8..." for several hours now.  Server load holds at 1.10, and there is a top process called "localedef", so it doesn't appear to be locked up.  How long is this process supposed to take?
[19:33] <kojoy> hi does anyone know how make a script wait for 30 seconds after you log in before runnig?
[19:33] <beautifulsnow> I do not, compengi. I just store my work and music there. (It's a USB drive but it's always plugged in :) )
[19:33] <Wargasm> rfxcasey, are you on a connection with a bunch of closed ports?
[19:33] <|chiz|> so has anyone every come across a webapp for a scanner, i have one but I don't want to hook it up one particular workstation
[19:34] <rfxcasey> Wargasm, I don't think so let me close my firewall and try again. It never was a problem before
[19:34] <gbear14275> ok, any clue why launching nautilus works just fine from terminal but when trying to run it as root its doesn't work
[19:34] <compengi> beautifulsnow, gnome-volume-manager should detect it and mount it automatically when you have your usb inserted
[19:35] <kaneda_> testing mods, bb
[19:35] <KDB9000> does anyone know how to set up auto login from a shell prompt?
[19:35] <anavarro> hey everybody this is my pastebin url http://paste.ubuntu.com/57097/
[19:35] <rfxcasey> Wargasm, no it still says error authenticating
[19:35] <compengi> beautifulsnow, how did you format your usb drive and changed the file system to ext3?
[19:35] <anavarro> please give a help
[19:35] <rfxcasey> Wargasm, I don't have any broken packages
[19:35] <HideousNashimoto> OMG
[19:36] <Wargasm> rfxcasey, ive had problems where ive been on a college internet connection and things like that...im not sure what the problem could be other than that
[19:36] <beautifulsnow> compengi, it does, but it mounts it to /media/disk, and only when i go to nautilus and click the drive. But I use Thunar. Also, I don't want to have to mount it myself. Say I want to open my firefox with work from the media drive, or listen to music with banshee. I try to access and THEN I remember I must mount it first :P And everytime I leave my office (so I shut down my pc) and come back, I must mount it again ^^;
[19:36] <HideousNashimoto> I used recordmyDesktop, now I am waiting for 5 minutes, and bar is still at 0% complete
[19:36] <rfxcasey> Wargasm, This has really screwed my system up. It was working great
[19:36] <bensimp> Hey guys. I have been trying to partition my HD and I get a error that its mounted even when I use a CD boot and unmount it.
[19:36] <KDB9000> that is an interesting problem anavarro, never seen that happen before
[19:36] <StephenChow> hey
[19:36] <mroc> DataGhost: one other question for you (as a reminder, dual boot machine with ubuntu partitions deleted)...you suggested fixmbr.  what's the word on fixboot and bootcfg (if you know)?  am i looking at a combo of these or just fixmbr alone.  guess i don't have a real sense for how windows does things.
[19:36] <HideousNashimoto> It's over I pressed CANCEL
[19:36] <rfxcasey> Hey all I got a big problem. I was using the update manager and it keeps telling me "Not all updated can be installed" then it says I can do a partial update. When I do the partial it tells me all these updates can't be authenticated. When I restart the update manager it happens all over again? Help Please!
[19:37] <beautifulsnow> bensimp,  probably because cd is using swap. I wonder if swapoff command from terminal will work?
[19:37] <StephenChow> Man, is there a way to play Flash on AMD64?
[19:37] <compengi> beautifulsnow, then list it in your fstab, it would mount the usb for you
 is making me crazy
[19:37] <KDB9000> anavarro, are you installing to a server edition or a GUI one?
[19:37] <beautifulsnow> compengi,  it doesnt
[19:37] <compengi> beautifulsnow, why?
[19:37] <xiamx> question,  when i use xdmcp to remote connect my server, is Xorg running on my computer or on the server?
[19:38] <beautifulsnow> no idea compengi
[19:38] <DataGhost> mroc fixboot will replace the bootloader with the default XP one... you might want to do that anyway, you can always replace it with grub later on
[19:38] <compengi> beautifulsnow, it depends how you did it :D
[19:38] <ViperuX> /nickserv indentify 4701629
 the server
[19:39] <xiamx> ViperuX: oh dude.. you make your pass clear to us ..
[19:39] <HideousNashimoto> recordmyDesktop, ass frezzed
[19:39] <StephenChow> hey
[19:39] <mroc> DataGhost: ok.  that makes more sense for me i think.  i'm more familiar with starting from a working single boot machine.  fixmbr+fixboot or is fixboot a standalone solution?
[19:39] <HideousNashimoto> I will kill god damn process!!!!!!!
[19:39] <a6> hello
[19:39] <popey> HideousNashimoto: ok, i we got the message, now try running it from the console
[19:39] <peepsalot> in the gnome panel clock preferences there is a tab for setting locations, but how do you tell it which location you are currently in?
[19:39] <xiamx> question,  when i use xdmcp to remote connect my server, is Xorg running on my computer or on the server?
[19:39] <popey> HideousNashimoto: this is a family friendly channel, please respect that
[19:39] <KDB9000> anavarro, have you tried it without the purge command?
[19:39] <StephenChow> I know karate
[19:40] <DataGhost> mroc I think fixboot is enough if your mbr isn't damaged :) as far as I recall, fixboot fixes the bootloader on the ntfs partition(s), fixmbr fixes the bootloader-thingy in the mbr
[19:40] <HideousNashimoto> Okay
[19:40] <HideousNashimoto> I run it from console
[19:40] <StephenChow> Someone help me, I am missing YouTube
 yes
[19:40] <xiamx> ah.. no one even respond me..
[19:40] <DataGhost> mroc I also think fixboot and fixmbr have a 'help' (or just 'help' on the recovery console?), that may give you more accurate information as it's been a while since I last used those commands
[19:40] <StephenChow> xiamx, none to me either
[19:40] <gonzaloaf_laptop> hi, how can I change the label of my usb driver without formating it?
[19:40] <ViperuX> hello guys, how do i create a web server in ubuntu 8.04?
[19:40] <Mark761> Hi. Quick question. If I want to change the icon theme where do I edit?
[19:40] <HideousNashimoto> It is still printing some data popey
[19:41] <TSCDan> I have an intel 4965 wireless card that has gone through 3 stages of LED activity... Hardy there was no LED at all.  When I first installed Ibex, it stayed on as long as the card was active (which is exactly what I want).  Now it blinks with activity which gets pretty friggin annoying... is there a way to disable it and set it back to just steady on when it is active?
[19:41] <LuYu> what files system is your usb drive?
[19:41] <LuYu> if its e2fs
[19:41] <rfxcasey> Hey all I got a big problem. I was using the update manager and it keeps telling me "Not all updated can be installed" then it says I can do a partial update. When I do the partial it tells me all these updates can't be authenticated. When I restart the update manager it happens all over again? Help Please!
[19:41] <KDB9000> anavarro, run this command and let me know what shows up "ps -A | grep mysql"
[19:41] <beautifulsnow> Mark761,  right click desktop, select change background, click customize at the bottom , 3rd tab i think is the Icon one
[19:41] <xiamx> StephenChow, it seems like pros are too busy
[19:41] <paul68> I want to reconfigure my dhcp server in order to let my server act as router can someone help me with this
[19:41] <popey> gonzaloaf_laptop: there's a page on the wiki about it, i think if you go to wiki.ubuntu.com and search for usb you'll find it
[19:41] <LuYu> gonzaloaf_laptop: you can use tune2fs
[19:41] <mroc> DataGhost: ok.  i don't know if the mbr is damaged.  obviously, grub took over as the bootloader after the ubuntu installation.  i'll read up on it, but my thought is that the mbr needs recreation after being stolen by grub, yes?
[19:41] <rfxcasey> Here is a list of the programs that can't be authenticated amsn
[19:41] <rfxcasey> ardour
[19:41] <rfxcasey> avidemux
[19:41] <rfxcasey> avidemux-common
[19:41] <rfxcasey> gimp
[19:41] <FloodBot3> rfxcasey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:41] <rfxcasey> gimp-data
[19:41] <KDB9000> still looking for some help on auto login without the GUI, shell only.
[19:41] <StephenChow> Yea looks like
[19:42] <DataGhost> mroc pretty sure about that, yes.
[19:42] <LuYu> gonzaloaf_laptop: make sure it is not mounted when you do that
[19:42] <Mark761> Erm. Isn't there a file somewhere, snow?
[19:42] <gonzaloaf_laptop> LuYu, is it available in the repos?
[19:42] <LuYu> gonzaloaf_laptop: it should already be in your system
[19:42] <popey> gonzaloaf_laptop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive
[19:42] <mroc> DataGhost: ok.  thanks so much for your help.  it's been a while since i've done this process so the refresher is helpful.
[19:42] <gonzaloaf_laptop> popey, thanks
[19:42] <LuYu> wow, theres a page for that
[19:42] <gonzaloaf_laptop> LuYu, thanks
[19:42] <rfxcasey> Hey all I got a big problem. I was using the update manager and it keeps telling me "Not all updated can be installed" then it says I can do a partial update. When I do the partial upgrade it tells me all these updates can't be authenticated. When I restart the update manager it happens all over again? Help Please!
[19:42] <popey> :)
[19:43] <LuYu> gonzaloaf_laptop: no problem
[19:43] <popey> rfxcasey: probably 3rd party sources listed in your sources.list i guess
[19:43] <LuYu> gonzaloaf_laptop: make sure not to use that on a vfat partition!!!
[19:43] <popey> rfxcasey: you'll see them in system -> admin -> software sources
  5241 ?        00:00:00 mysqld_safe
[19:44] <anavarro>  5283 ?        00:00:00 mysqld
[19:44] <rfxcasey> popey, I have never had this problem before
[19:44] <paul68> I want to reconfigure my dhcp server in order to let my server act as router can someone help me with this
[19:44] <rfxcasey> popey, what exactly should I look for
[19:44] <popey> paul68: thats quite a complex task for us to undertake in here
I need to remove it or just login
[19:45] <TSCDan> paul68: A DHCP server doesn't act as a router... you can use iptables to help you set up linux to act as a router...
[19:45] <gonzaloaf_laptop> LuYu, all usb keys arent a vfat partition?
[19:45] <popey> rfxcasey: do you have much in the "Third party software" tab
[19:45] <Mark761> Is there an Ubuntu room for the desktop agnostic?
[19:45] <KDB9000> anavarro, ok, mysql is still up and running. lets try stopping it manually, run "/etc/init.d/mysql stop"
It is unbelievable
ok
[19:45] <rfxcasey> popey, yea a whole bunch
[19:46] <izike> i have installed ubuntu 8.10 on my xps 1330 laptop, but when i go to "screen resoultion" it write that that the screen type is unknown and it run on 50hz, how can i change it?
[19:46] <LuYu> gonzaloaf_laptop: well, not if you formatted it with ext2 or reiserfs
[19:46] <StephenChow> Probably the pros are not noticing me cos I am using Pidgin to chat on IRC. Let me log on uising XChat.
[19:46] <paul68> popey: at this point I have this config isp modem router server and i Want to change this into ispmodem server router server is already configured as dhcp and dns server
[19:46] <rfxcasey> popey, all the packages listed that it can't authenticate look like 3rd party stuff like amorok and gimp
[19:46] <compengi> beautifulsnow, try to add this to your fstab /dev/sdb /mnt/disk auto rw,users,noauto 0 0 (assuming your usb is sbd)
[19:47] <LuYu> gonzaloaf_laptop: read the link popey gave you
[19:47] <popey> rfxcasey: does update manager not let you accept that you have unauthenticated repos?
sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop
[19:47] <anavarro> [sudo] password for anavarro:
[19:47] <anavarro>  * Stopping MySQL database server mysqld                                                                                                                                  [fail]
[19:47] <paul68> TSCDan: I know but need to reconfigure it in order to make it act as a router in combination with dhcp and firewall
[19:47] <TSCDan> rfxcasey: I had the same issue where it said it could not authenticate ubuntu packages and it was caused by a 3rd party source
[19:47] <chucknorris> hey
[19:47] <storm-zen> I attempted to upgrade from gutsy to hardy, and it failed... it's now threatening to run dpkg --configure -a -- does that roll back everything?
[19:47] <KDB9000> anavarro, ya, sorry forgot the sudo
[19:47] <popey> storm-zen: no, it rolls forward ;)
[19:47] <rfxcasey> popey, so how do I fix this
[19:47] <anavarro> no problem
[19:47] <chucknorris> Is there anything I can do to play Flash on AMD64?
[19:47] <popey> storm-zen: seriously, it "finishes off"
[19:47] <amenado> paul68--> thats not overly difficult to do, two separate services, routing and dhcp serving
[19:47] <LuYu> gonzaloaf_laptop: you can use mkdosfs -n, but i dont know if that will reformat it or just rename it
[19:47]  * LuYu shrugs
it fails
[19:47] <KDB9000> anavarro, seems like it doesn't want to go down, is it being used right now?
[19:48] <TSCDan> chucknorris: I play flash on amd64..
[19:48] <rfxcasey> popey, it seems like I don't have the option in the manager
[19:48] <chucknorris> how so?
[19:48] <popey> rfxcasey: you _could_ disable the 3rd party repos
no
[19:48] <gonzaloaf_laptop> how can i tell nautilus to show file extensions?
[19:48] <TSCDan> Don't remember how I got it working, but it is
[19:48] <chucknorris> share please
everything seems fail
[19:48] <paul68> amenado:  if you know how it is easy
[19:48] <TSCDan> chucknorris: Just installed a bunch of crap with a search of "flash" in synaptic lol
I can do killall mysql
[19:48] <jrib> chucknorris: visit http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com and click on the yellow bar in firefox or just install the flashplugin-nonfree package from the multiverse repository
[19:48] <amenado> paul68--> very easy
[19:48] <rfxcasey> popey, isn't that more of a bandade then a solution
[19:48] <chucknorris> let me try!
[19:48] <storm-zen> popey: One of the things that failed was ubuntu-desktop... should I be alarmed?
[19:48] <paul68> amenado: can I msg you?
[19:49] <popey> rfxcasey: well the solution is you should have put the keys on your system for those repos :)
[19:49] <chucknorris> bitch! badgerbadger?!!!
[19:49] <KDB9000> anavarro, try it and then do the "ps -A | grep mysql"
[19:49] <chucknorris> I know that one
[19:49] <LuYu> buenas noches
[19:49] <Some_Person> Should I get Ubuntu 32-bit or Ubuntu 64-bit? What are the advantages/disadvantages of both?
[19:49] <chaddy> the real chucknorris knows there is no try, there is only do or do not
ok
[19:49] <popey> !64bit
[19:49] <HideousNashimoto> XVidCap frozeen either
[19:49] <amenado> paul68--> nope, stay here on the main channel...you need to have two nic cards for your server, you have the two nic cards ready?
[19:49] <popey> Some_Person: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions#AMD64 Processors
[19:50] <paul68> amenado: yes I do have them and both are installed under ubuntu
[19:50] <KDB9000> anavarro, if that doesn't take it down i am out of ideas for stopping it other then a kill with the PID number (which the ps command gives you). but you should stop it first then try removing it
[19:50] <ndube> some_person: ubuntu 64 bit does not have stable java for web surfing, but other then that it works great
[19:50] <anavarro> ok
ok
[19:50] <chucknorris> ubottu: but no Flash I guess?
done
[19:50] <KDB9000> anavarro, did the killall work?
[19:50] <rfxcasey> popey, ok let me explain better. I have been updating with no issues at all. Then the other day manager says there are all these updates so I let it do it's thing. I think there was a update for the distro in there too I don't know but now it is giving me crap
[19:50] <amenado> paul68--> okay lets say eth0 is towards your isp/modem and eth1 towards internal lan
[19:50] <popey> chucknorris: flash works on 64-bit ubuntu
[19:50] <Some_Person> There is no Flash 64, so it wouldn't have flash either :(
yes
[19:51] <KDB9000> anavarro, ok try to remove it now
[19:51] <popey> Some_Person: it does
[19:51] <TSCDan> You can run flash under 32 bit compatibility
[19:51] <Some_Person> popey: How is that possible when it doesn't exist?
[19:51] <chucknorris> where do I get the binary?
[19:51] <TSCDan> I am running Ibex 64bit and it works fine
[19:51] <paul68> amenado: my current config is a isp modem router server (with dhcp dns lamp fileserver webserver and ftp) and I want to change places withthe router and server
[19:51] <jrib> chucknorris: I just told you two ways.
[19:51] <TSCDan> Worked on Hardy as well
[19:51] <popey> Some_Person: there's a plugin in firefox which "just works" :)
[19:51] <paul68> amenado: ok
[19:51] <Some_Person> popey: what about java?
with synaptic or on apt-get?
[19:51] <rfxcasey> popey, I have updated with all this software I currently have installed before and no issues just this time a whole bunch of problems which seems very strange
by command line
[19:51] <storm-zen> what does it mean when sudo apt-get upgrade tells you that k3b has been "held back"?  heh... I upgraded to hardy to get K3b working... ... the irony...
[19:51] <chucknorris> jrib: how about http://chucknorrism.com ?
[19:52] <KDB9000> anavarro, synaptic is GUI, so just do the apt-get, run the same command you tried before
[19:52] <chucknorris> I guess they have it too
[19:52] <popey> rfxcasey: can you drop to a terminal and issue "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and pastebin the results?
[19:52] <frostburn> that's not irony, it's just what happened
[19:52] <garrett__> anyone know if there's a good regex editor floating around?  the *nix version of regex-coach isn't supported anymore, and kregxpeditor is a little too GUIish
[19:52] <jrib> chucknorris: I don't know what that is, nor what it has to do with your question
ok
[19:52] <popey> Some_Person: i dont really use java much, not tested it sorry
[19:52] <storm-zen> frostburn: It's irony because that was the ONE package I wanted to work.
[19:52] <Crayboff> anyone know when Test Pilot will be available for public download?
[19:52] <amenado> paul68--> will eth0 be a dhcp client ?
[19:52] <storm-zen> ( or, more accurately, the only reason I upgraded. )
[19:52] <bahaa2008_> hi
[19:53] <KDB9000> anavarro, i got to go, if you have any more problems i am sure one of the other guys in here will be happy to help you. good luck
[19:53] <oneseventeen> Are there any limitations on what I can do to files on a Windows file share from Ubuntu?
great
[19:53] <KDB9000> anavarro, it worked?
[19:53] <chucknorris> jrib: man, I am sorry. I thought you were trying to fool me with that badger dance.
[19:53] <chucknorris> Installing now
[19:53] <bahaa2008_> i want to untar file with replace old files if exist
[19:53] <Crayboff> anyone know when Mozilla Test Pilot will be available for public download?
[19:53] <oneseventeen> I want to create an intranet for our Active Directory based network, and want to make sure I can interact with windows server shares from Ubuntu
[19:53] <popey> oneseventeen: there's not many things you need to do, open/delete/execute/delete files.. all works, there might be some permission issues, and case sensitivity can be an issue
[19:53] <ndube> oneseventeen: nope, the windows box will take care of all permissions
[19:53] <rfxcasey> popey, this might just work
[19:53] <paul68> amenado: I guess not since the eth0 is getting its IP from the isp
[19:53] <popey> Crayboff: probably best ask mozilla
yes, at least offers me to remove all my databases
[19:53] <rfxcasey> popey, will this bypass the authentication?
[19:54] <oneseventeen> popey, ndube: thanks, that's what I thought but wanted to make sure
can I keep them?
[19:54] <popey> rfxcasey: no but it will offer you the option of doing that
[19:54] <Some_Person> So do Java and Flash work fine with 64-bit ubuntu, or do I need 32-bit for practicality?
[19:54] <rfxcasey> popey, that is what I chose
[19:54] <popey> rfxcasey: soi "yes" really :)
[19:54] <popey> Some_Person: java works, flash works
[19:54] <KDB9000> anavarro, i am not sure. never tried to removed mysql. i have to get going, so many one of the other guys and answer that question or even google might be able too
[19:54] <amenado> paul68--> lets back up a second, the current router ip address towards the ISP, what is it?
[19:54] <jrib> chucknorris: yeah, it just needs to be a flash page that doesn't try to be *too smart* like youtube's.  Youtube detects you don't have flash and then doesn't show flash so firefox doesn't try to install it
[19:54] <chucknorris> that installer has hung my browser
[19:54] <popey> Some_Person: java _plugin_ in the browser might not, flash plugin in the browser _does_
[19:54] <IdleOne> !java64 > Some_Person
[19:54] <paul68> amenado: its the gateway 192.168.1.1
[19:55] <Some_Person> but how weLL DO THEY WORK?
really thank you
[19:55] <rfxcasey> popey, I really like Ubuntu but these little things kill me
really
[19:55] <Some_Person> oops sorry, stupid caps lock i keep hitting by accident
[19:55] <TuniX12> !java > TuniX12
[19:55] <popey> Some_Person: there is a wrapper in firefox for flash
[19:55] <KDB9000> anavarro, no problem
[19:55] <popey> rfxcasey: join the club :)
[19:55] <chucknorris> jrib: that's what (YouTube) made me think I had do something special to install Flash
[19:55] <rfxcasey> popey, I am afraid my system is gonna get hosed some time or another so I really need to make image backups more often
I will try to install it again to recover my root account
[19:56] <amenado> paul68--> pay attention, the ip address router gets at the ISP side..not the ip address towards your server (gateway)
you will be there?
)
[19:56] <popey> rfxcasey: backups are a good thing!
[19:56] <jrib> chucknorris: yeah, there should be an exception in the extension to just try to install flash when someone tries to visit youtube.com.  Would solve half the flash questions.  /me considers looking into it
[19:56] <paul68> amenado: the router has currently a fix IP and then is the server running as dhcp the router is also controling the wireless part
[19:56] <rfxcasey> popey, have you ever used imagepart before
[19:56] <InHisName> What files are being run during boot after the login and password are entered in the login screen?   I am looking for part that is changing my screen resolution to a lousy setting.  I can put it back but prefer to not need to.
[19:56] <rfxcasey> popey, or partimage whatever it's called
[19:56] <popey> rfxcasey: there are a few options - we look at some of the options for backups in the next episode of the Ubuntu Podcast from the UK LoCo - http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/ due out this week
[19:57] <amenado> paul68--> okay, what is that ip address again towards the ISP? whats that static ip address?
[19:57] <popey> rfxcasey: i use rsnapshot for backups but have also used sbackup and backup-manager - all in the repos
[19:57] <paul68> amenado: its 213.118.188.215
[19:57] <snabel25> hello folks!
[19:57] <rfxcasey> popey, well I use partimage and it seems to make backups fine but I have yet to try and reinstall one
[19:58] <Finnish> I'm still faving problems with K3b. I'm just trying to make an ISO from audio cd.
[19:58] <paul68> the server has 192.168.1.10 the gateway is 192.168.1.1
[19:58] <amenado> paul68--> okay, now when you attached that ubuntu to that modem directly, eth0 will have that ip address, set the static ip address in /etc/network/interfaces file
[19:58] <FFEMTcJ> I'm trying to install 8.04 on my laptop.. When it gets to step 3, i select my keyboard and hit forward.. It does nothing.. Will sit there for hours.. I believe step 4 is the partition step. Any idea why it wont continue and how to fix it?
[19:58] <rfxcasey> popey, hey I thing this will work because it is updating one of the files it couldn't before right now
[19:58] <popey> rfxcasey: rsnapshot is nice, it doesnt use tarballs, so you can easily browse the filesystem to restore, very nice
[19:58] <popey> rfxcasey: good!
[19:58] <rfxcasey> popey, is it free
[19:59] <amenado> paul68--> then your eth1 of the ubuntu server will dole out a dynamic address towards your router
[19:59] <popey> rfxcasey: of course
[19:59] <paul68> amenado: if I understand you correctly the 213 is comming in that file
[19:59] <rfxcasey> popey, Ok I will have to check it out, thank for the tip
[19:59] <popey> rfxcasey: look out for the podcast - we will link to some useful tools
[19:59] <amenado> paul68--> its not coming, you set or edit that file to set eth0 to be 213.x.x.x address
[20:00] <rfxcasey> popey, brb
[20:00] <FFEMTcJ> Are there any good linux magazines (print or online) to subscribe to?
[20:01] <popey> FFEMTcJ: Full Circle Magazine
[20:01] <zelrikriando> there is full circle
[20:01] <zelrikriando> it's an online magazine
[20:01] <paul68> amenado: what about the netmask
[20:01] <amenado> paul68--> then you run a dhcp3server in your ubuntu, set the ip address you will use for the lan
[20:01] <FFEMTcJ> Thanks guys.. Any others?
[20:01] <amenado> paul68--> use the same netmask as your router uses now (towards the ISP)
[20:02] <paul68> OK
[20:03] <Anarhist> some process is accessing something on my usb drive, so i can't unmount it safely, how do i find which process is responsible?
[20:03] <paul68> amenado: what about the gateway does it stay the same? do I need to confugure the eth1 also in this file
[20:04] <Anarhist> !openfile
[20:04] <Anarhist> !openfiles
[20:04] <Anarhist> !open files
[20:04] <amenado> paul68--> the gateway for eth0 is your ISP,  the eth1 will be also configured as static in that same file, matching the ip range you'd use for doling out ip addresses in the lan
[20:05] <ddd> how to setup stupid dvd region in my reader?
[20:05] <julian> how can i change ubuntu server settings that hard drives got shutdown to save power after a time?
[20:06] <ddd> I cant play dvd I rent
[20:06] <dthomasdigital> anyone using Ubuntu eee?
[20:06] <ddd> [16941.367087] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 76547
[20:06] <ddd> [16941.419338] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 306164
[20:06] <ddd> etc
[20:06] <amenado> paul68--> you need to allow packet forwarding for ubuntu,  echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[20:06] <ransom> i'm using ubuntu eee
[20:06] <ddd> is this because of dvd region?
[20:06] <chucknorris> what is eee?
[20:06] <meoblast001> can someone exlain what's up with this? http://pastebin.com/d788b22a7
[20:06] <Anarhist> ddd, it may be because of the region or because of encryption
[20:06] <chucknorris> elite enterprise edition?
[20:06] <ddd> Anarhist: how to fix? I have libdvdread3 something
[20:07] <Anarhist> hmm
[20:07] <Anarhist> !dvd
[20:07] <amenado> paul68--> here is a guide  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119787
[20:07] <Anarhist> yeah, that's the thing
[20:07] <ddd> !medibuntu
[20:07] <paul68> amenado: hold on not to fast
[20:07] <Anarhist> so can somebody help me please?
[20:08] <amenado> paul68--> im at lunch im not going to be here very long
[20:08] <Anarhist> i am hungry and i can't go home without unmounting my usb drive
[20:08] <ransom> eee is a netbook by Asus, chucknorris
[20:08] <frank339> bonsoir
[20:08] <ransom> there is a variation of ubuntu called ubuntu ee that is built for it
[20:09] <chucknorris> Thanks ransom, probably EEPC?
[20:09] <amenado> paul68--> here is an additional link  http://ubuntulinuxhowto.blogspot.com/2006/06/setup-your-computer-to-be-router.html
[20:09] <ransom> yeah, that's the one
[20:09] <chucknorris> ok
[20:09] <ransom> it uses a modified version of the ubuntu moblie interface
[20:09] <frank339> I've some problem with installation of lineage 2 on ubuntu. who can help me ?
[20:10] <k0de> frank339 is it a windows game?
[20:10] <frank339_> bonsoir
[20:10] <k0de> frank339_ is it a windows game?
[20:10] <ransom> I was wondering if anyone knew if/when OpenOffice.org 3.0 was going to be added to the hardy repository?
[20:10] <frank339_> yes
[20:10] <k0de> frank339_: #winehq
[20:10] <amenado> paul68--> i hope with those links, you'd be able to follow through.. good luck, am out to eat lunch
[20:10] <meoblast001> can someone exlain what's up with this? http://pastebin.com/d788b22a7
[20:10] <frank339_> I've installed it
[20:10] <frank339_> but i've an error
[20:11] <paul68> amenado: ok
[20:11] <k0de> frank339_: And i told you where to go, didn't i
[20:11] <chucknorris> ok, is there a guide to creating Ubuntu themes?
[20:11] <jrib> chucknorris: art.gnome.org has one
[20:11] <chucknorris> ok thanks
[20:11] <chucknorris> arr, but I prefer KDE
[20:12] <chucknorris> So?
[20:12] <FFForever> how come i do not have permission to make a network (saba) share?
[20:12] <l337ingDisorder> hey folks, I just copied a mounted iso to my local hard drive, and the directory created on my local hard drive is considered a read-only filesystem.. Anyone know how to make it read/write-able?
[20:12] <l337ingDisorder> chmod returns the same error (read-only filesystem)
[20:13] <ransom> l337ing, i suppose you could transfer th contents of the iso to another folder?
[20:13] <FFForever> "'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error Permission denied You do not have permission to create a usershare. Ask your administrator to grant you permissions to create a share."
[20:13] <jrib> !samba | FFForever
[20:13] <ddd> thanks Anarhist
[20:13] <Anarhist> np
[20:13] <jrib> FFForever: you are suffering from that bug there at the end.  logout and log back in.  poke me if you still have the error afterwards
[20:14] <FFForever> ok brb
[20:14] <ddd> libdvdnav: vm: faild to read VIDEO_TS.IFO
[20:14] <ddd> libdvdread: Invalid IFO for VMGM (VIDEO_TS.IFO).
[20:14] <ddd> libdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.VOB (0x00000130)
[20:14] <ddd> libdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_1.VOB (0x00012afc)!!
[20:14] <FloodBot3> ddd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:14] <kaneda_> jrib, i fixed my problem by adding something to synaptic.c and reinstalling it
[20:14] <ddd> what is that? Anarhist?
[20:14] <sashimi> 'even all
[20:14] <sashimi> evening
[20:14] <jrib> kaneda_: oh, you actually had to patch the driver?  eww
[20:14] <sashimi> damn
[20:14] <kaneda_> jrib, my new problem is that it now wants me to update xorg
[20:14] <Orbixx> Can someone explain to me, no matter what wireless configuation I use between my laptop and my wireless router, network manager keeps rejecting the network key
[20:14] <kaneda_> yah, i had to patch the driver
[20:14] <kaneda_> nothing else worked
[20:14] <jrib> !pinning > kaneda_
[20:14] <kaneda_> it's ugly as hell too
[20:15] <Anarhist> ddd, sorry i don't know
[20:15] <sashimi> Orbixx> not the proper encryption type ?
[20:15] <sashimi> (wpa1, 2...)
[20:15] <l337ingDisorder> ransom: thanks, looks like that'll work.. dunno why that didn't occur to me
[20:15] <l337ingDisorder> still though, there should be a console command to just make the dir read/writeable
[20:16] <Finnish> Can someone tell me if it is possible to make ISO from audio cd?
[20:16] <rfxcasey> popey, updates really stink sometimes
[20:16] <kaneda_> jrib, ty
[20:16] <ddd> l337ingDisorder: what dir?  on harddrive?  chmod?
[20:16] <rfxcasey> popey, my wine was working great till I updated it
[20:16] <ransom> l337ingDisorder: np!
[20:16] <rfxcasey> popey, now the sound is studdery
[20:16] <kaneda_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/133060/comments/14
[20:16] <Orbixx> sashimi: Odd, it worked fine with wpa1 tkip.
[20:16] <kaneda_> jrib, that's the fix
[20:17] <Dib_> Hello, Is it possible to use hp-toobox to upload to an SD Card in the printer - I am able to download from the card
[20:17] <Flannel> Finnish: yes, just use dd
[20:17] <meoblast001> does anyone here use saned?
[20:17] <Finnish> Flannel: But I'm getting I/O-error
[20:17] <King_Kickass> yesterdays vlc update made the player worse than before where can I talk about that?
[20:18] <Dib_> meoblast001, is that a scanning thing if so then yes and it great
[20:18] <chaddy> King_Kickass: #vlc
[20:18] <l337ingDisorder> ddd: I mounted a .ISO with gmount, to /iso    then I used    cp -rT /iso /opt/cd-image    and /opt/cd-image ended up being read-only filesystem.. Tried sudo chmod 777, same error - read-only filesystem
[20:18] <Flannel> Finnish: then you may have something else going on
[20:18] <kaneda_> jrib, omg it just broke again, that soolution doesnt work for me
[20:18] <meoblast001> Dib_: saned is a sane server.. do you use that?
[20:19] <ddd> stupid m*** f***
[20:19] <ddd> why I buy damn dvd if I can wath it
[20:19] <jlilly> anyone have suggestions on a 12-13" laptop w/ 4gb ram that runs ubuntu well? Will be used to travel, but should have performance enough to act as my everyday computer (sans gaming)
[20:19] <ddd> idiots shure do everything to make people use pirates
[20:19] <Flannel> ddd: Please watch your language
[20:19] <Dib_> meoblast001, yea that was great when I used it to scan an image from my scanner
[20:19] <chaddy> ddd: why you buy a keyboard if you can't type on it?
[20:19] <amrik> jlilly: some people have had good luck with m1330 from dell
[20:19] <HtheB> h
[20:19] <HtheB> hi
[20:20] <ddd> chaddy: so that you can start personal attacks
[20:20] <HtheB> Does anyone know how to Bind "CTRL+ALT+DEL" to the processmanager?
[20:20] <meoblast001> Dib_ did you ever get this error message or do you know how to fix it http://pastebin.com/d788b22a7
[20:20] <Orbixx> sashimi: Seems it didn't like the router broadcasting in wpa1/wpa2 mixed.
[20:20] <chaddy> ddd: aptitude search restricted|grep extras
[20:20] <meoblast001> HtheB: i think it's called xbindkeys... use that
[20:20] <chaddy> you might need to enable some more sources
[20:20] <jrib> kaneda_: make a comment
[20:20] <chucknorris> http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910 <-- If Ubuntu can look like this, there is gonna conversion in millions within a month
[20:20] <meoblast001> HtheB: or xkeybind
[20:20] <tricqster> jlilly: Fujitsu-Siemens U9200/U9210, or Thinkpad X200/X300... :)  but they are not for gaming... ehm
[20:20] <Dib_> HtheB, try looking in system -> pref -> shoutcuts
[20:20] <GreedyB> What does initramfs ?
[20:20] <kaneda_> :[
[20:20] <HtheB> yes I did Dib_
[20:20] <kelvin911> hi how to setup xdvi so i can print?
[20:20] <kaneda_> does anyone have any ideas?
[20:21] <kaneda_> i've tried both fixes
[20:21] <meoblast001> Dib_: that wouldnt fix HtheB's problem because that dialog is very limited
[20:21] <Flannel> chucknorris: Please take that elsewhere.  #ubuntu-artwork, #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[20:21] <chaddy> ddd: if you read you started attacks with "idiots"
[20:21] <meoblast001> xbindkeys is the way to go
[20:21] <chucknorris> ok thanks
[20:21] <HtheB> CTRL ALT DEL does now shows the "shutdown menu" :(
[20:21] <Dib_> ah sorry
[20:21] <chaddy> ddd: investigate dvd css to see who the real idiots are
[20:21] <ddd> chaddy: how that will hel?  I have libcss2 somethinf
[20:21] <HtheB> meoblast001, xkeybind?
[20:22] <meoblast001> yes
[20:22] <meoblast001> that might be what it's called
[20:22] <HtheB> sudo apt-get xkeybind ?
[20:22] <meoblast001> HtheB: let me check
[20:22] <Dib_> meoblast001, try unpluging and the reboot if you havent allready
[20:22] <jlilly> tricqster: I'm not looking for a gaming machine. Just looking for something if I get a work-from-home job. There's going to be some travel involved, but I don't want a POS to work on everyday.
[20:22] <HtheB> thnx :) meoblast001
[20:22] <meoblast001> yw
[20:22] <meoblast001> i used to have my system set up the same way but eventually stopped doing that
[20:22] <Flannel> HtheB: you shouldn't need anything fancy for that, go to gnome keybindings and see if its configurable by default
[20:22] <JesseL627> Any graphic artists want to make about $100 in 20 minutes? PM Me.
[20:23] <chaddy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats ddd, maybe you need regionset
[20:23] <HtheB> Flannel, I did checked the Shortcut menu
[20:23] <HtheB> but it isn't there :(
[20:24] <julian> anyone has a tutorial websites or help for me about sending a system harddrive into standby mode?
[20:24] <ddd> chaddy: this is not about format
[20:25] <chaddy> ddd: I'll take your thanks as read if you stow the 'tude
[20:25] <HtheB> well meoblast001
[20:25] <adac> Does someone knopw what the program callbook is? According ton nmap callbook is running and using port 2000
[20:25] <tricqster> jlilly: as I know, FS U9200 is working pretty well with linux. intel cpu + intel gpu... the same for lenovo X200, or X300 these notebooks are quite small 12-13", which I like.
[20:25] <drichert> I'm trying to set up a USB Oxygen8 keyboard on Ubuntu Studio but the device isn't showing up in lsusb.  Any ideas?
[20:25] <meoblast001> does anyone know how to figure out what program is using a port that i need to use?
[20:25] <chaddy> if you think it through and ask a question you might get on better, ddd
[20:25] <rfxcasey> kust wondering why can't two synaptic processes run simultaneously
[20:25] <Orbixx> adac: Google might know.
[20:25] <soundray> julian: to issue the standby command just once, run 'sudo hdparm -y /dev/sda' (substitute the device name of your harddrive)
[20:25] <ddd> chaddy: problem is about kernel not being able to read given parts of the dvd medium,  not about software codecs problems with decoding it\
[20:26] <Flannel> rfxcasey: They have locking mechanisms to prevent the package database from getting messed up
[20:26] <chaddy> ddd: oh if it's a kernel issue that's altogether different
[20:26] <rfxcasey> Flannel, that make sense
[20:26] <chaddy> please explain, ddd
[20:26] <HtheB> meoblast001, did you looked yet?
[20:26] <chucknorris> I installed Gnash, but it's failing to play YouTube, now I'd like to try the plugin from Adobe. How do I uninstall Gnash?
[20:26] <firebug0408> does anyone know where i can find some documentation to learn how to use ubuntu?
[20:26] <Flannel> firebug0408: help.ubuntu.com
[20:26] <ddd> chaddy: as I asked 5 minutes ago here,  libcss2 can not brake keys since it can not read given sectors on the medium.  I guess this is some anti piracy protection.
[20:26] <meoblast001> HtheB: look? oh sorry.. i thought you said you found it... sorry
[20:26] <rfxcasey> sorry my typing is bad I got cake on my hands
[20:26] <firebug0408> thank you
[20:26] <soundray> chucknorris: that depends -- how did you install it?
[20:26] <HtheB> no I didnt :(
[20:27] <meoblast001> i'm looking
[20:27] <chucknorris> Firefox did it for me
[20:27] <eitreach> I'm having some trouble with wine. Whenever I mount an iso, wine can't find it when I try loading an exe from it.
[20:27] <rfxcasey> ummm chocolate keyboard.........
[20:27] <soundray> chucknorris: then uninstall it with firefox as well.
[20:27] <ddd> I just want to watch dvd which I legally rent. Fine, next time I will just pirate it to start with, damn gredy *******s
[20:27] <chaddy> ddd: can you dd to an iso and read that?
[20:27] <chucknorris> It doesn't give uninstall option, only disable
[20:27] <ddd> chaddy: dd /dev/dvd shows just a bit
[20:28] <jrib> chucknorris: use synaptic
[20:28] <chaddy> just the one bit, ddd?
[20:28] <soundray> chucknorris: then you haven't installed it with firefox. Listen to jrib.
[20:28] <chucknorris> let me  check
[20:28] <chaddy> is it a one or a zero?
[20:28] <lwizardl> is there a easy way to make a web interface work like a desktop application?
[20:28] <Flannel> eitreach: You might try asking in #winehq, there may be some extra steps you have to take to tell wine about it
[20:28] <julian> soundray, oes it work for system drives also?
[20:28] <rfxcasey> I really wish I could irc from work
[20:28] <adac> Orbixx: it is asterisk! sudo netstat -n -tap | grep 2000 shows you the process
[20:28] <chucknorris> so synaptic is like a program manager?
[20:28] <soundray> julian: yes, but the drive will spin up again within seconds.
[20:28] <rfxcasey> but they block this type of thing
[20:28] <chaddy> chucknorris: more or less
[20:29] <julian> yes and i wanna cancel that
[20:29] <Flannel> chucknorris: its a package manager.  It installs/removes/updates/etc packages.  programs are a small subset of packages.
[20:29] <chucknorris> ok, so any other app which does the same?
[20:29] <soundray> julian: if you want to shutdown a drive to save power, you need to take other measures as well
[20:29] <ddd> chaddy: first ~8.5 MB
[20:29] <julian> so i read about putting log and other stuff into ram
[20:29] <chucknorris> alright cool
[20:29] <meoblast001> HtheB: sudo apt-get install xbindkey
[20:29] <keepguessing> Hi I am new to ubuntu .. I can access the network only via the proxyserver. If I need to try to upgrade packages or stuff it says it is unable to connect to the server .. How do I bypass this problem
[20:29] <Flannel> chucknorris: aptitude, apt-get, (terminal based); adept (for kde), add/remove programs
[20:29] <Orbixx> julian: What is the purpose of you wanting your hard disk in standby?
[20:30] <soundray> julian: what's your goal?
[20:30] <chaddy> ddd: there is always the option of returning the media to the shop you bought it from as not fit for purpose
[20:30] <meoblast001> HtheB: soorry.. i mean xbindkeys
[20:30] <Orbixx> soundray: Snap.
[20:30] <chucknorris> ok cool
[20:30] <ransom> does anyone know if/when OpenOffice.org 3.0 will be added to the hardy repository?
[20:30] <meoblast001> HtheB: and you want xbindkeys-config
[20:30] <rfxcasey> has anyone seem ubuntu on sale at Beast Buy
[20:30] <ddd> chaddy: well that is not very helpfull, I prefer to resolve problem
[20:30] <lwizardl> rfxcasey, not me
[20:30] <HtheB> thanks meoblast001  :) ill check now
[20:30] <chaddy> ddd: I'd love to help you, ddd, I really would
[20:30] <rfxcasey> yeah there is a retail box at best buy
[20:31] <julian> Orbixx its just a small server for software and pictures (cause this d-a-m-n nas are to slow in network) and its not often used but also its upstairs and i dont wanna run there to power up the server. so im trying to kinda hybernate my server until some network packages reach it
[20:31] <julian> soundray see above
[20:31] <HtheB> meoblast001,
[20:31] <HtheB> isnt it xbinkeys --config ?
[20:31] <HtheB> I cant run xbindkeys-config
[20:32] <meoblast001> why not?
[20:32] <rfxcasey> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&id=pcat17071&type=page&st=ubuntu&sc=Global&cp=1&nrp=15&sp=&qp=&list=n&iht=y&usc=All+Categories&ks=960
[20:32] <keepguessing> have i not clearely put my question .. Please let me know if any mroe info is need
[20:32] <Orbixx> julian: Frequent spin up/spin downs can ruin hard disks.
[20:32] <Orbixx> Over time..
[20:32] <Flannel> rfxcasey: I have but this is slightly offtopic.  #ubuntu-offtopic would be a better place to discuss (#ubuntu is for support only)
[20:32] <Orbixx> You're better getting eco friendly hard disks and keeping them on all the time.
[20:32] <rfxcasey> sorry
[20:32] <HtheB> meoblast001, ? :)
[20:33] <julian> Orbixx its not often
[20:33] <julian> this server is used once a day
[20:33] <juaco> has someone tried to export xscreensaver xml files to gnome-screensaver .desktop files? i wanna know where should the .desktop files go
[20:33] <chucknorris> so I am degnashing my box
[20:33] <meoblast001> HtheB: you didnt ask a question
[20:33] <julian> so most of the time it should be in standby
[20:33] <Orbixx> julian: Sounds like a NAS is over the top then.
[20:33] <chucknorris> time for a check
[20:33] <julian> Orbixx, sorry didnt get that
[20:33] <keepguessing> I can access the network only via the proxyserver. If I try to upgrade packages or stuff it says it is unable to connect to the server .. How do I bypass this problem
[20:34] <HtheB> meoblast001, I did :)
[20:34] <Orbixx> julian: Your NAS.
[20:34] <meoblast001> can someone with any knowledge of linux tell me what this means http://pastebin.com/d788b22a7
[20:34] <HtheB> I asked: I couldnt run the command
[20:34] <Orbixx> It's a bit... Extravagant... For what you require.
[20:34] <HtheB> xbindkeys-config
[20:34] <julian> what you mean with its over the top?
[20:34] <jin> Does Ubuntu support Silverlight?
[20:34] <Orbixx> Overkill.
[20:34] <meoblast001> HtheB: sudo apt-get install xbindkeys-config
[20:34] <meoblast001> jin: yes.. Moonlight
[20:34] <jin> bettter question, does Silverlight work on Ubuntu?
[20:34] <HtheB> oh lol xD
[20:34] <jin> meoblast001, is that made by MS?
[20:35] <Orbixx> Unlikely.
[20:35] <meoblast001> jim: no it's made by Novell in partnership wit hMS
[20:35] <HtheB> jimius, its made by MS
[20:35] <HtheB> but, doesnt work rly well
[20:35] <chucknorris> Duh!! I just uninstalled gnash from Synaptic and restarted Firefox hoping to find the missing plugin button. YouTube works now. Weird.
[20:36] <meoblast001> i mean.. jin
[20:36] <lgc> What's the command to make some app the default one? The default navigator or the default Java version, for example.
[20:36] <meoblast001> HtheB: works better with FF2 than 3
[20:36] <meoblast001> says it on the site
[20:36] <HtheB> hmmm
[20:37] <julian> orbixx, i got a nas and its too damn slow much too slow so i set up these little ubuntu server and just want that the sys drive got standby
[20:37] <HtheB> meoblast001, I installed the config :P
[20:37] <meoblast001> HtheB: and?
[20:37] <meoblast001> does it work now?
[20:37] <jimius> does anyone know a good/preferred guide/tut on using the ubuntu terminal window for complete newb
[20:37] <storm-zen> I upgraded to ubuntu hardy.  Now the nvidia drivers don't work.  nvidia-settings tells me that they aren't loaded, to run nvidia-xconfig (which I do), and it doesn't seem to make a difference.
[20:37] <jin> meoblast001, does moonlight support pulseaudio?
[20:37] <jimius> s? before i google it
[20:38] <keepguessing> I can access the network only via the proxyserver. If I try to upgrade packages or stuff it says it is unable to connect to the server .. How do I bypass this problem
[20:38] <meoblast001> jin: not sure http://www.mono-project.com
[20:38] <HtheB> well...
[20:38] <keepguessing> mono is different from moonlight
[20:38] <ransom> jimius: shell programming in 24 hours is a good introduction to the terminal and how it works
[20:38] <HtheB> When I press Get Keys it close the app
[20:38] <Flannel> !terminal | jimius
[20:39] <Dib_> thanks for all the help, Bye and good luck with everything ^_^
[20:39] <meoblast001> can someone with any knowledge of linux tell me what this means http://pastebin.com/d788b22a7
[20:39] <HtheB> oh i see why
[20:39] <lgc> !java
[20:39] <jimius> thnks ransom, Flannel
[20:39] <_Zeus_> meoblast001: what is saned?
[20:39] <julian> orbixx isnt there a way to let it standby till a network command reaches?
[20:40] <meoblast001> _Zeus_: a sane server for scanning
[20:40] <_Zeus_> meoblast001: ok
[20:40] <chatuser0234> I am interested in running a server that keeps a partial, private mirror of the ubuntu repository both for use on the LAN as well as for creating a custom installation CD.  Is this feasible? (ie, is the structure of the cd image compatible with running structure for a partial mirror? and is it possible to specify a list of packages to mirror?)
[20:41] <_Zeus_> meoblast001: is there another server running?
[20:41] <keepguessing> when i try to install openssh-server using apt-get, it stops at [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com ]  and does go anyfurther .. any help is appreciated
[20:41] <Flannel> !apt-proxy | chatuser0234
[20:41] <Finiras> when transferring a very large file (70 gb) the speed of the file transfer decreases to almost nothing... how to stop this from happening?
[20:41] <HtheB> meoblast001, what is the command to call the taskmanager?
[20:42] <meoblast001> HtheB: one sec
[20:42] <HtheB> Thanks :)
[20:42] <meoblast001> HtheB: gnome-system-monitor
[20:43] <r4itei> irc.rizon.net
[20:43] <jimius> Flannel, the shell programming ransom suggested wouldn't happen to be Bash?
[20:43] <Flannel> chatuser0234: see also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[20:43] <Flannel> jimius: shell programming could be bash, yes.
[20:44] <keepguessing> jimius: can u help??
[20:44] <HtheB> meoblast001,  THANKS! :)
[20:44] <_Zeus_> technically, it's usually DASH, but yes
[20:44] <HtheB> kudos for you :)
[20:44] <HtheB> it works ^^
[20:44] <meoblast001> HtheB: yw
[20:44] <Flannel> _Zeus_: its dash on recent ubuntus if you only specify sh, if you specify bash in your shebang, its still bash.
[20:45] <_Zeus_> Flannel: i realize that
[20:45] <_Zeus_> but most people don't bother setting it to BASH
[20:45] <Amp> buenas
[20:45] <chucknorris> ok thanks guys
[20:45] <meoblast001> can anyone tell me how to figure out what program is using a specific port?
[20:45] <keepguessing> when i try to install openssh-server using apt-get, it stops at [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com ]  and does go anyfurther .. any help is appreciated
[20:46] <keepguessing> netstat
[20:46] <LjL> meoblast001: sudo netstat -p | grep programname
[20:46] <meoblast001> LjL: i dont know the program name.. i know the port number
[20:46] <keepguessing> grep portnumber
[20:46] <turtle> lololol
[20:47] <meoblast001> keepguessing: that does nothing
[20:47] <xomp> keepguessing, if it does go further, isn't that expected behavior?
[20:47] <keepguessing> xomp: I correct myself it does not go further*
[20:48] <meoblast001> can someone please help me i've been sitting here for 50 minutes getting nothing done
[20:49] <_Zeus_> meoblast001: we told you like 4 times
[20:49] <marwub> tous le monde
[20:49] <_Zeus_> netstat -p
[20:49] <kri> hi
[20:49] <_Zeus_> !fr | marwub
[20:49] <chatuser0234> Thanks Flannel.  I will look into forcing apt-proxy to cache a specific set of packages or possibly just disabling cache on it.
[20:49] <kri> what do i type in a terminal to get info about hd devices space used and space left
[20:49] <chaddy> kri: df -h
[20:49] <kri> and is their a prebuild program for reading images of discs?
[20:49] <Anza> When I send a Fw using Thunderbird, people get a .eml file with the mail, so, they cannot see the Fw I sent, what can I do to make it just send the mail and not attach it??
[20:49] <kri> like daemon tools for windows
[20:50] <keepguessing> meoblast001: when u do netstat -p scroll through all the data and u would know
[20:50] <chaddy> kri: mount
[20:50] <kri> or what is the best program for it
[20:50] <kri> ok mount
[20:50] <kri> thanks
[20:50] <chaddy> no worries
[20:50] <meoblast001> keepguessing: it says the port is clear
[20:50] <_Zeus_> meoblast001: then it is?
[20:50] <meoblast001> _Zeus_: then why do i get this http://pastebin.com/d47b4b345
[20:50] <keepguessing> it means there is no process listening at that port
[20:50] <compengi> Anza, why not asking mozilla :D
[20:51] <Finiras> when transferring a very large file (70 gb) the speed of the file transfer decreases to almost nothing... how to stop this from happening?
[20:51] <_Zeus_> meoblast001: do you get this? (Not all processes could be identified, non-owned process info will not be shown, you would have to be root to see it all.)
[20:51] <bluedog> meoblast001: to see listening ports try a netstat -ap
[20:51] <keepguessing> it says address already in use
[20:52] <Anza> compengi, I just pasted the question in firefox room, but I thought maybe someone would know here
[20:52] <oneseventeen> installing ubuntu-server, it is stuck on configuring apt.  it is not connected to the internet, do I just wait for it to give up?
[20:52] <compengi> Anza, your question isn't related to ubuntu, which is why it would be better to wait for an answer there :)
[20:52] <aaron> certain dvd's and cd's will mount and certain ones don't mount...can anyone help?
[20:52] <oneseventeen> ha, just had to talk about it... it sat there for about 15 or 20 minutes, then it suddenly jumped forward to the next step
[20:52] <Anza> compengi, ok, thanks
[20:53] <meoblast001> nothing is working
[20:53] <meoblast001> and the ppl at #sane dont talk
[20:53] <andresmh> I messed up. I did usermod -G video  myusername and after rebooting now I can't do sudo, it says I am not a sudoer. How do I fix this?
[20:53] <_Zeus_> meoblast001: are you SURE it's not already running?
[20:53] <compengi> Anza, and most probably it's not related to thunderbird. you have something wrong with your mail configuration
[20:53] <_Zeus_> andresmh: boot to recovery console
[20:53] <andresmh> _Zeus_: how?
[20:53] <lwizardl> hi
[20:54] <meoblast001> _Zeus_: sudo killall saned says so
[20:54] <_Zeus_> meoblast001: ps -e | grep sane
[20:54] <compengi> Anza, thunderbird is only a browser, which opens links, it doesn't do anything other than that
[20:54] <andresmh> _Zeus_: and what do I do once I boot to recovery console?
[20:54] <chucknorris> ok, how do I check which version of KDE I am running?
[20:54] <meoblast001> _Zeus_: nothing
[20:54] <Anza> compengi, I thoght so, but I dont know what is it, what could be wrong
[20:54] <_Zeus_> andresmh: then i think the command is group
[20:55] <meoblast001> _Zeus_: it cant listen on the right port according to that log
[20:55] <_Zeus_> groupmod
[20:55] <keepguessing> _Zeus_:  can u help me??
[20:55] <_Zeus_> meoblast001: i know that
[20:55] <compengi> Anza, ask your email support why this is happening
[20:55] <_Zeus_> !asl | keepguessing
[20:55] <_Zeus_> *ask
[20:55] <_Zeus_> what the?!
[20:55] <fbc> Will ubuntu run on a RISC processor machine? I just got one of these new HP9000 servers.
[20:55] <_Zeus_> !ask
[20:55] <keepguessing> when i try to install openssh-server using apt-get, it stops at [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com ]  and does go anyfurther .. any help is appreciated
[20:55] <andresmh> _Zeus_: what group should my user be part of?
[20:55] <keepguessing> when i try to install openssh-server using apt-get, it stops at [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com ]  and doesnot*** go anyfurther .. any help is appreciated
[20:55] <lwizardl> is it possible to take a web browser based application and run it locally as a desktop application?
[20:56] <meoblast001> _Zeus_: any ideas on my problem?
[20:56] <_Zeus_> meoblast001: no
[20:56] <_Zeus_> andresmh: root
[20:56] <compengi> keepguessing, where do you live?
[20:56] <keepguessing> lwizardl: depends on web based applicaiton
[20:56] <rafase282> anyone using aircrack-ng?
[20:57] <_Zeus_> andresmh: it's admin, i think
[20:57] <keepguessing> compengi: India
[20:57] <k0de> rafase282 -> #aircrack-ng
[20:57] <lwizardl> keepguessing, like php
[20:57] <andresmh> _Zeus_: ok, i'll try admin
[20:57] <Shakedown> If I set up dual-monitors with xinerama will windows maximize over both monitors, or just the monitor it is in?
[20:58] <andresmh> _Zeus_:  any tips on how to go to recovery console? Googling for "ubuntu recovery console" doesn't return very useful hits.
[20:58] <Shakedown> And will my top/bottom bars stretch over stay in my primary monitor?
[20:58] <_Zeus_> andresmh: it's a GRUB entry
[20:58] <xomp> wow, gtk-recordmydesktop is horrid, no matter what quality setting I use it slows my system to a near stand still.
[20:58] <compengi> keepguessing, and is your sources.list point to in.security.ubuntu.com?
[20:58] <oneseventeen> is there a certain way to install ubuntu-server so it doesn't try to get online to update apt during the install process?
[20:58] <andresmh> ah
[20:58] <Jessica_pl> what program for ubuntu should I use to edit pdf ?
[20:58] <andresmh> ok, brb
[20:58] <andresmh> ;)
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[20:58] <chucknorris> Someone please, how do I check the KDE version I am running
[20:59] <chucknorris> I am trying to get deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu hardy main, just wanna make sure I am not using it already
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> Jessica_pl: pdfedit
[20:59] <thomc> all of a sudden, my sound has just gone. what the?
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> !info pdfedit
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> thomc: restart sound server, or reboot
[20:59] <thomc> i have rebooted.
[20:59] <rjb> hello, i have a question about using LDAP for user authentication (on ubuntu/server)
[21:00] <Jessica_pl> ActionParsnip, pdfedit is not working with me :S Do you have another idea ?
[21:00] <HtheB> meoblast001,
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> !ldap | rjb
[21:00] <Lerxst51> chucknorris: try on the #kubuntu channel, personally I don't use KDE, and do not know how to check it
[21:00] <thomc> ActionParsnip - how to restart sound server?
[21:00] <meoblast001> HtheB: yes?
[21:00] <HtheB> It seems to be that I have to run the xbindkeys server evertime I boot my system?
[21:00] <HtheB> :(
[21:00] <HtheB> (manually)
[21:00] <chucknorris> ok, thanks
[21:00] <HtheB> because I couldnt use the CTRL ALT DEL until I run the xbindkeys
[21:00] <keepguessing> I just checked there is no in.security.ubuntu.com
[21:00] <EvilTchnlgy_>  can anyone help me convert my windows dns server settings to ubuntu dns?
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> Jessica_pl: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/11/editing-pdfs-in-ubuntu/
[21:01] <BlueEagle> !boot | HtheB
[21:01] <rjb> ActionParsnip: i just need to learn to config the client side, not the LDAP server
[21:01] <kaneda_> i think i need to find out what's causing it to reset
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> !startup | HtheB
[21:01] <kaneda_> which is really, really annoying
[21:01] <keepguessing> lwizardl: best to ask in #php
[21:01] <xomp> can someone suggest a decent desktop recording program for ubuntu that is NOT gtk-recordmydesktop? It seems to be incapable of doing an even remotely decent job of recording without making my system near unresponsive.
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> Jessica_pl: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94878
[21:02] <HtheB> thanks :)
[21:02] <HtheB> I'll give it a look
[21:02] <disco> Does anyone already had a problem with NetworkManager and dhclient interaction ? It looks like NetworkManager launches dhclient which get an IP address successfully, but then NetworkManager is never notified about this IP address.
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> xomp: http://phorolinux.com/record-your-linux-desktop-with-byzanz.html
[21:02] <disco> So NetworkManager pretend I'm not connected. That is, I need to do it manually
[21:02] <compengi> keepguessing, in.archive.ubuntu.com pings :)
[21:03] <meoblast001> fuck this.. i dont care about my scanner anymore
[21:03] <_Zeus_> !language
[21:03] <meoblast001> i've been here for an hour and got nothing done
[21:03] <meoblast001> i dont have this kind of time
[21:03] <meoblast001> i need something that WORDS
[21:03] <meoblast001> WORKS*
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> disco: i always just edit /etc/network/interfaces but mi old school
[21:03] <keepguessing> compengi: infact it does .. thank you let me add it and try thanx
[21:03] <popey> meoblast001: which scanner?
[21:03] <storm-zen> I upgraded to hardy and lost my screen resolution in the process.  I've read the FAQ, but there is nothing in it that works.
[21:03] <_Zeus_> meoblast001: have you rebooted?
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> meoblast001: what make / model you got?
[21:04] <compengi> keepguessing, no problem
[21:04] <Shakedown> is BigDesktop better than xinerama for dual-monitors if I have the proprietary (binary) ATI driver?
[21:04] <disco> ActionParsnip: me too. but if i deactivate the NetworkManager there is some sie effects, like Firefox beeing automatically in "offline" mode
[21:04] <meoblast001> _Zeus_: a million times
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> disco: you can patch ff to not do that
[21:04] <meoblast001> ActionParsnip: Brother 5440CN
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> disco: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+faq/96
[21:05] <dmsuperman> I try to log on to my desktop and it says "gnome-daemon-settings couldn't start" and it takes me about 10 minutes for the screen to try and load
[21:05] <meoblast001> now i have to argue with my sister so she doesnt steal the thing and break it when she doesnt even have the drivers
[21:05] <disco> ActionParsnip: additionnaly on my laptop i'm using several locations and it's interesting to have it automatically connected according to the location you are in
[21:05] <dmsuperman> I've cleared ~ and copied it from /etc/skel to no avail
[21:05] <disco> ActionParsnip: thanks for tip.
[21:05] <kbrosnan> disco: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Toolkit.networkmanager.disable
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> meoblast001: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=278923&highlight=amd64+brother
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> disco: network manager is pointless if you can use the config file
[21:06] <popey> meoblast001: looks like it uses the epson driver
[21:06] <Arcticfox> hey guys I'm thinking of buying a new video card ho0w can i know if it's compatable with my craptastic computer?
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | Arcticfox
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Arcticfox: id buy nvidia
[21:07] <bullium> does anyone know when openoffice 3 will aptable in 8.04?
[21:07] <aguitel> bullium, never
[21:07] <thomc> Does this make sense to anyone - I boot into Windows, mute my sound, boot back into Ubuntu and it's still muted, whatever I do, so I have to go back into Windows to unmute it?
[21:07] <_haywire_> cya thomc
[21:07] <dmsuperman> It takes like 10 minutes to log on, the screen stays white, and then I get an error about gnome-daemon-settings having issues
[21:07] <bullium> aguitel: releasing in 8.10?
[21:07] <ThreeM> hello :)
[21:07] <hydrate> hi all
[21:07] <dmsuperman> And then it finally logs on
[21:07] <aguitel> bullium, not now
[21:07] <disco> ActionParsnip: afaik, in the config file, you can have only *one* configuration, for one location
[21:07] <dmsuperman> I've cleared ~ and started with another user
[21:07] <ichbinesderelch> thomc: are you on a notebook?
[21:08] <Arcticfox> ActionParsnip: it is nividia but I have a 4 year old compaq so idk if it'l fit in my computer
[21:08] <Guest5473> অডদদগ
[21:08] <brandon__> server irc.9unkz0r.com
[21:08] <bullium> aguitel: eta?
[21:08] <hydrate> is this the channel i should be in if im looking for some help?
[21:08] <thomc> ichbinesderelch, yep
[21:08] <aguitel> bullium, in 9.04
[21:08] <billybigrigger> anyone know why a default lamp install with print/file sharing of ibex server beta doesn't show up in my networks on a hardy laptop?
[21:08] <Guest5473> Hello
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> disco: you can have multiple files ready to be cp'd in thought ;)
[21:08] <bullium> wow
[21:08] <disco> ActionParsnip: then you need to run a script for each location/configuration.
[21:08] <bullium> aguitel: wow...ok
[21:08] <billybigrigger> i had networking worked out find when i had hardy on my server, now with ibex nothing...
[21:08] <ThreeM> does anyone know if openoffice 3 final will be in the repos of ubuntu 8.04 ?
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> !intrepid | billybigrigger
[21:08] <disco> ActionParsnip: yep, sure. But if it could be run automatically, it's not that bad
[21:08] <ichbinesderelch> thomc: a view notebooks do the soundmute per hadware and not per software, maybe ubuntu doesn't recognizes its muted by hardware on startup and thinks everything is ok..
[21:09] <Shakedown> Is there a way to filter this chat room to show only lines containing my name (or anything, for that matter)?
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> disco: i think thats fine unless you change location on an hurly basis
[21:09] <disco> ActionParsnip: and, anyway, it's working at 90% with NetworkManager :)
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> *hourly
[21:09] <hydrate> depends on your client Shakedown
[21:09] <Shakedown> Pidgin?
[21:09] <thomc> ichbinesderelch, ok - thanks, that's good to know
[21:09] <hydrate> i dont think so
[21:09] <ichbinesderelch> thomc: i had the same problem on my sony vaio laptop
[21:10] <disco> ActionParsnip: so, I thought about correcting the bug before writting scripts
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: you could copy the text to a file then grep it
[21:10] <hydrate> is anyone here able to help  with touchscreen on a hp pavillion tx1000 ?
[21:10] <Shakedown> You mean there's no: "<IRC> | grep Shakedown" command?
[21:10] <Shakedown> Hey good idea ActionParsnip
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> disco: its a way to work until you get a success, i personally only use 1 wireless lan so have no issues
[21:10] <loulouloulou> Hi I have a duo core CPU on my toshiba laptop ..however htop and ksensors only show one core..is this normal ?
[21:10] <storm-zen> (sigh) Anyone here use an Nvidia 7600GS?
[21:10] <keepguessing> compengi: it does not work still
[21:10] <Shakedown> If I set up dual-monitors with xinerama will windows maximize over both monitors, or just the monitor it is in?
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> loulouloulou: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: try it
[21:11] <keepguessing> it gets stuck at security.ubuntu.com :)
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: i honestly couldnt say
[21:11] <keepguessing> plus i am behind a proxyserver
[21:11] <loulouloulou> ActionParsnip, it shows 8 cpus from 0 to 7
[21:12] <kaneda_> mor etesting
[21:12] <kaneda_> laters
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> storm-zen: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-445222.html
[21:12] <disco> ActionParsnip: I'm using wireless at home, wired at a first work place and wireless/vpnc at a second work place.
[21:13] <linny> could anyone pls tell me where to find the system startup log please
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> disco: id just have 3 and 3 bash scripts to copy the relevant file to interfaces
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> !logs
[21:13] <disco> ActionParsnip: with different proxy configuration. I already made scripts. But I wanted to use the gnome tools ;)
[21:13] <compengi> keepguessing, did you sudo apt-get update?
[21:13] <matt___> linny, try dmesg
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> not quite eh
[21:13] <loulouloulou> ActionParsnip, is it normal to have 8 entries in /proc/cpuinfo
[21:13] <linny> dmesg what ?
[21:13] <beautifulsnow> Hey people, what's the fastest way to get all media and sound working? I come from LinuxMint and everything was working out of the box... but I still prefer how Ubuntu ... Grrr
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> loulouloulou: not really
[21:14] <matt___> linny, open gnome-terminal and type dmesg
[21:14] <meoblast001> im loosing my mind
[21:14] <meoblast001> someone please
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> beautifulsnow: you need to run lspci then websearch from there
[21:14] <aaron> hello
[21:14] <Shakedown> Why shouldn't I use BigDesktop over xinerama in this HowTO http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[21:14] <chaddy> hi aaron
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> !hi aaron
[21:14] <compengi> beautifulsnow, install those plugins gstreamer0.10-bad gstreamer0.10-ugly gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-ugly-plugins
[21:14] <Shakedown> There's no cons for BigDesktop
[21:15]  * aaron needs help
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: im sure there are some, nothing is perfect
[21:15] <rjb> huh? I do have 8 entries in /proc/cpuinfo, nothing wrong with that
[21:15] <etudiant> bonjour a tous
[21:15] <kaneda_> well, once again it appears to be working
[21:15] <disco> ActionParsnip: What's weird is that it almost work. networkmanager is just not notified by dhclient that an IP has been caught...
[21:15] <beautifulsnow> compengi, that's it?  (writes them down on paper )   then all sound, flash, banshee, etc will work alright? at the same time too? ^^;
[21:15] <Shakedown> Right, so I'm concerned with maximizing windows and my top/bottom bars (what are those called?)
[21:15] <etudiant> je vais d'arriver pour la premiere fois
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> disco: log a bug
[21:15] <ndube> !ubuntu-fr | etudiant
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> !fr | etudiant
[21:15] <ndube> doh
[21:15] <Shakedown> I don't want windows to maximize over both monitors, and I don't want my top/bottom bars to extend across both monitors
[21:15] <Dnar> Are there any computer technicians in here?
[21:16]  * aaron is new to the cmd line and i cant seem to findout how to open anope unrealircd or neostats
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> Dnar: a few of us are
[21:16] <ndube> dnar: sure
[21:16] <compengi> beautifulsnow, no, that's only for mp3. if you want everything. get a package called ubuntu-restricted-extras and you'd have all what you need
[21:16] <disco> ActionParsnip: will do that
[21:16] <etudiant> ok je peut me debrouiller en anglais
[21:16] <disco> ActionParsnip: thanks for tips anyway.
[21:16] <sakuramboo> in 8.04, all media doesnt work. if i try to play an mp3 or ogg in audacious, it freezes the program, if i try to play something in mplayer, it plays the first second, then stops, what could be the problem?
[21:16] <_Zeus_> !ask | alm7tas
[21:16] <storm-zen> ActionParsnip: Yes, this seems to be my problem.  There is no real resolution stated there.  There's a mention of envy, but I thought envy was a bad thing?
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> sakuramboo: make sure you have decent codecs
[21:17] <kaneda_> after 10 minutes bug has not reappeared
[21:17]  * aaron is on tirc cmd line
[21:17] <sakuramboo> ActionParsnip, i reinstalled the codecs already
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> storm-zen: its not bad, its just unofficial. I use it myself but thats me
[21:17] <Dnar> ActionParsnip, Well, I am trying to make to be a computer techinican, and make it my career.  I know how to use computers and fix them, etc.  However, companies would like degrees/certifications...Can you instruct me on what I need to do to accomplish this?
[21:17] <aaron> can some 1 help me plz
[21:17] <Shakedown> Is it normal that my aticonfig tool doesn't appear to do anything?
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> !ot | Dnar
[21:17] <Nic2> guys is the line "CPUFREQ-INFO" sure? does it show the real cpu freq?
[21:17] <ichbinesderelch> !ask aaron
[21:17] <storm-zen> ActionParsnip: I was told it did some things to the OS that required reinstallation to fix... is that an old issue?
[21:18]  * aaron is new to the cmd line and i cant seem to findout how to open anope unrealircd or neostats
[21:18] <aaron> ^^^^
[21:18] <ichbinesderelch> !ask | aaron
[21:18] <Dnar> ActionParsnip, Okay. I asked there, no replies, sorry.
[21:18] <loulouloulou> ActionParsnip, sorry...I applied the command in the command shell of my hosting server :$...my laptop only has one CPU entry in /proc/cpuinfo
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> storm-zen: you will need to run the envybg after each kernel update, if you dont yuo wont get an x server
[21:18] <keepguessing> _Zeus_: my problem could be because I am accessing the internet via the proxy server .. Is there any way to by pass the proxy server or make changes saying all accesses to the internet is via the proxy server??
[21:18] <ichbinesderelch> always wanted to do that :P
[21:18] <_Zeus_> keepguessing: huh???
[21:18] <kaneda_> my last attempt at a fix involved starting gsynaptic-init differently
[21:18] <_Zeus_> what's your question?
[21:18] <Nic2> ﻿guys is the line "cpufreq-info" sure? does it show the REAL cpu freq?
[21:19] <aaron> i need help opening unrealircd anope and neostats
[21:19] <_Zeus_> keepguessing: i know when you install, you have a chance to setup a proxy.  I don't know how to do it post-install
[21:19] <_Zeus_> aaron: what does that mean?
[21:19] <aaron> irc server stuff
[21:19] <mazpe> anyone using ec2?
[21:19] <lonforce> any performance tipps? I'm running ubuntu on a 5 year old toshiba tecra until my t61's fan is fixed....
[21:19] <aaron> im new to ubuntu cmd line
[21:20] <loulouloulou> hi..I got a Duo core laptop however /proc/cpuinfo only displays one cpu entry is this normal ?
[21:20] <mazpe> aaron: you mean running?
[21:20] <mazpe> or opening
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> lonforce: ditch metacity and use fluxbox. makes it nice and fast
[21:20] <Nic2> can anyone tell if the line "cpufreq-info" sure? does it show the REAL cpu freq?
[21:20] <storm-zen> ActionParsnip: And if it doesn't work... it can be uninstalled?
[21:20] <jblp> Hmm
[21:20] <aaron> mazpe: yes
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> storm-zen: all software can be uninstalled
[21:21] <xomp> can someone suggest a decent desktop recording program for ubuntu that is NOT gtk-recordmydesktop? It seems to be incapable of doing an even remotely decent job of recording without making my system near unresponsive.
[21:21] <Nic2> sorry about pasting again but ﻿can anyone tell if the line "cpufreq-info" sure? does it show the REAL cpu freq?
[21:21] <lonforce> ActionParsnip: Ok thanks! so I'm a little bit of a noob ...  probably this goes further than sudo apt-get install * right?
[21:22] <DrX> I was having some stability issues so I rebooted a couple of times, the last time it ran a disk check and now it says "(repair filesystem): #" what do I do?
[21:22] <mazpe> aaron: you don't know how to open (run) an application from shell and you want to run an irc server?
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> lonforce: sudo apt-get install fluxbox logoff, change session type, logon
[21:22] <Shakedown> Should "sudo aticonfig --query-monitor" provide results? I get nothing and I obviously have a monitor
[21:22]  * aaron is use to windows
[21:22] <aaron> lol
[21:22] <mazpe> should either stick to windows.. and read quite a bit ;)
[21:22] <Nic2> ﻿sorry about pasting again but ﻿can anyone tell if the line "cpufreq-info" sure? does it show the REAL cpu freq?
[21:22] <storm-zen> ActionParsnip: Ok, let me put it this way, then: what is required to get to a 'supported' edition of Ubuntu after installing envy, if envy happens not to work?
[21:22] <aaron> ok
[21:23] <xomp> !patience > Nic2
[21:23] <mazpe> aaron: running an irc server is not something that can be explained over irc.
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> storm-zen: what nvidia do you have?
[21:23] <mazpe> aaron quite a few concepts in there.
[21:23] <danny_> how do i get flash to work in firefox?
[21:23] <lonforce> ActionParsnip: Cool, thanks again!! Ill give it a try right now
[21:23] <xomp> !flash | danny_
[21:23] <DrX> danny_: download the Plug-in
[21:24]  * aaron knows how to run 1 i just dont know how to open the programs in the shell
[21:24] <storm-zen> ActionParsnip: 7600GS.  Worked like a charm in Gutsy.
[21:24] <xomp> aaron, ./programname
[21:24] <keepguessing> _Zeus_: Thanx for your help it worked atlast ... I needed add the proxy server in the env variables . Thank you compengi
[21:24] <_Zeus_> cool
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> storm-zen: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new nvidia-settings
[21:24] <aaron> ok
[21:25] <hwilde> is anyone here familiar with resuming uploads with   rsync --partial --progress
[21:25] <keepguessing> _Zeus_: it would be : export http_proxy=http://proxyserver
[21:25] <storm-zen> ActionParsnip: Got them already.  Should I uninstall and re-get them?
[21:25] <_Zeus_> keepguessing: that easy?
[21:25] <unop> aaron, it depends - usually just the the   program name and press enter.
[21:25] <Shakedown> is there a apt-get way to get the lastest version of java (1.6)?
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> storm-zen: you need to websearch how to set it up man
[21:26] <kaneda_> Shakedown, do you need the sdk or just the jre?
[21:26] <aaron> ok
[21:26] <storm-zen> ActionParsnip: I have been.  Keep finding dead ends.
[21:26] <Monk_> does anyone know why flashgot doesn't recognize flashget on ubuntu? it did on mandriva!
[21:26] <Shakedown> Both, actually
[21:26] <unop> Shakedown, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[21:26] <Shakedown> And I currently have 1.5 jre
[21:26] <storm-zen> ( Though I didn't find the particular dead end that you posted. )
[21:26] <kaneda_> voila
[21:26] <meoblast001> how do i allow all users to connect in saned.conf?
[21:26] <kaneda_> that will get the jre
[21:26] <chucknorris> bye gys
[21:26] <unop> Shakedown, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-{jre,jdk}
[21:26] <kaneda_> for more java packages use aptitude search java
[21:27] <kaneda_> hey, i have a floating term window as part of a screenlet, is there any way to give it a vertical scroll bar?
[21:27] <keepguessing> _Zeus_: yes :)
[21:27] <Shakedown> Thanks for Java help guys
[21:27] <kaneda_> np
[21:28] <unop> kaneda_, what kind of terminal is it?
[21:28] <en1gma> i dont understand how to add sources to the repos so i can also dload the source
[21:28] <storm-zen> ActionParsnip: Hmm.. there is one post that suggests installing envyNG, getting it to set everything up initially, and then uninstalling it.  Does that sound like it could work?
[21:28] <kaneda_> unop, bash
[21:28] <kaneda_> ?
[21:28] <unop> kaneda_, that's the shell ..  echo $TERM
[21:28] <kaneda_> ah
[21:28] <kaneda_> xterm
[21:29] <en1gma> can someone tell me how to also get the source to dload when i dload a package
[21:29] <sakuramboo> okay, it seems that all the media programs i have do not support sharing the sound card, what packages am i supposed to have to get this working?
[21:29] <kaneda_> i can scroll up and down using my track pad, but i'd like to have the bar
[21:29] <kaneda_> as my trackpad has been totally effed, but now seems to work (for the time being)
[21:29] <unop> kaneda_, hmm .. did the screenlet come like that or did you setup the terminal in the screenlet ?
[21:29] <drumstyk1> is there a keyboard shortcut to open the terminal?
[21:30] <en1gma> i want to be able to download sources when i use synaptic to retrieve a package
[21:30] <kaneda_> hah! as i said that it stopped working, this couldnt be a coincidence
[21:30] <oneseventeen> is there a boot option on the server installer to set a static IP for use during installation?
[21:30] <RoRza> does anyone know why I get this error
[21:30] <RoRza> http://pastie.org/291516
[21:30] <en1gma> i can turn the option to "-" or " " there is no "x" i can check on for sources
[21:30] <unop> drumstyk1, there's ALT+F2  .. but you can assign a custom keyboard shortcut to open gnome-terminal
[21:31] <oneseventeen> every step requiring the internet takes 20 minutes before it gives up
[21:31] <kri> hi again
[21:31] <kaneda_> >_<>_<>_<>_<>_<
[21:31] <jlc> how do I make a folder public so everybody can view it?
[21:31] <RoRza> does anyone know why I get this error
[21:31] <RoRza> http://pastie.org/291516
[21:31] <kaneda_> unop, do you have any idea why my trackpad settings get reset to something totally different at random times?
[21:31] <meoblast001> this thing is retarded... it only lets me connect if i run saned in debug mode
[21:32] <unop> jlc, create a folder, right click, and give permissions to 'other'
[21:32] <kri> how do i use the df -? command to check one folder how much space it uses
[21:32] <en1gma> can someone tell me how to add sources so i can also retrieve those when i grab a package with synaptic
[21:32] <kri> ?
[21:32] <_Zeus_> RoRza: what is gem?
[21:32] <unop> kaneda_, hmm, not really
[21:32] <kaneda_> it's driving me nuts
[21:32] <kaneda_> i have to restart x
[21:32] <kaneda_> it's only started since i installed screenlets
[21:32] <en1gma> i just want to add sources...nothing hard
[21:32] <kaneda_> but i cant find any associated bugs :[
[21:32] <en1gma> but cant figure it out
[21:32] <RoRza> its a packaging system for Ruby Libs
[21:32] <unop> kri, you don't use df for that - you use du
[21:32] <DarkCharlie> Hey everyone.
[21:33] <Shakedown> My friend says he was able to find xspim in the repo's but I can't - I can only find spim.  If I dl spim (which contains xspim) I can make xspim myself, but if I can just dl xspim directly I'd rather do that. Anybody know if it's hidden somewhere in the repo's or where my friend could've got it from?
[21:33] <go_beep_yourself> whats score in amarok???
[21:34] <meoblast001> omg
[21:34] <meoblast001> this stuff sux
[21:34] <kri> unop: ok df = disc f? and du = disc uses?
[21:34] <meoblast001> im gonna get to use this program once too and then i'll have to do this all over again
[21:34] <en1gma> sooo....i would like to add source to the repos
[21:34] <lonforce> woa fluxbox is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaast ....!!!
[21:34] <kaneda_> does anyone know of problems with screenlets resulting in trackpad malfunctions?
[21:34] <unop> kri, ask your shell ..  whatis du
[21:34] <_Zeus_> en1gma: use administration > software sources
[21:34] <danny_> i still don't have any sound in firefox
[21:34] <Shakedown> Score looks to be a representation of the popularity of a track taken from an online source
[21:34] <lonforce> can I install cairo-dock or something similar on fluxbox?
[21:34] <en1gma> Zeus yes i can get to that area
[21:35] <_Zeus_> en1gma: there should be a checkbox for source there
[21:35] <Shakedown> Not sure though, that's what it looks like to me
[21:35] <en1gma> but the "check on" for install sources is only "-" or " "
[21:35] <dr_willis> lonforce,  some of those docks require a 'compositing' window manager.. those may not work with fluxbox.. others might.. try it and see
[21:35] <en1gma> i cant put a check there
[21:35] <danny_> i still don't have any sound in firefox
[21:35] <potsmokers> hi, can someone help ni, now i format my laptop again, and i have a problem to make a partition.. can i create a primary partition  of swap file system or use a logical partition?
[21:35] <en1gma> Zeu, do you know what i mean
[21:35] <kaneda_> restarting x a bunch of times, bb
[21:36] <dr_willis> potsmokers,  swap can be primary or logical
[21:36] <en1gma> _Zeus_, do you know what i mean
[21:36] <lonforce> dr_willis: it's just the right clicking thing to open the application is too difficult for me... another thing, how can I install themes in fluxbox?
[21:36] <_Zeus_> en1gma: oh, try using sudo apt-get source package
[21:36] <blah569> Does Harmonix's Rock Band microphone work with Ubuntu?  It works with my Windows computers.  Ubuntu can use the internal microphone on this computer, but it is not nearly as good as the RockBand USB Microphone.
[21:36] <meoblast001> ahhhh
[21:36] <en1gma> _Zeus_, so there is no way to check it on?
[21:36] <meoblast001> i hate  this stuff
[21:36] <roundyz> hello
[21:36] <_Zeus_> en1gma: eh?  check what on
[21:36] <en1gma> what you told me to
[21:36] <potsmokers> tq dr_willis... how about a size? i create 10G for ext3 partition, and 300mb for swap partition.. is it ok bro?
[21:36] <en1gma> "<_Zeus_> en1gma: there should be a checkbox for source there"
[21:37] <timebom> hello
[21:37] <dr_willis> lonforce,  err... thats statement makes ya sound rather.. pathic. :) too hard to right click? 90% of the window managers for linux/X use the right click method..   its kde and gnome that sort of started the whole 'start button' thing..  Fluxbox has its own themes. and you could just run the gnome-panel in fluxbox if you want the gnome panel.
[21:37] <_Zeus_> en1gma: no, i take that back.  try what i said.  sudo apt-get source package
[21:37] <en1gma> ok thanks
[21:37] <dr_willis> potsmokers,  depends on your ram. i alwyas make 512mb swap. but i got lots of disk space.
[21:37] <roundyz> how would one mount a dd image of a whole disk that contains various partitions, ie how do i select the parition i want from the image when i do mount -t ntfs -o loop image.dd /mountpoint ?
[21:38] <potsmokers> my RAM is DDR2 2G my friend...
[21:38] <kaneda_> and now we wait
[21:38] <lonforce> dr_willis: okok...guess I'll just get used to it, thanks anyway
[21:38] <unop> lonforce, in fluxbox you assign keyboard shortcuts to commonly used applications - or launch them using a 'run dialog' - like fbrun or gmrun - the menu is quite secondary
[21:38] <blah569> Any ideas to my inquiry?
[21:38] <dr_willis> lonforce,  you can easially just use fluxbox to replace the gnome window manager part. :) or the kde window manager if ya like. The fluxbox homepage proberly has 1000+ themes for the thing as well.
[21:38] <afief_> is there a way to read my hotmail inbox from Ubuntu?
[21:38] <lonforce> unop: sort of like gnome-do?
[21:38] <kaneda_> so unop, did you have an idea about how to get the term window to give me a scroll bar?
[21:39] <Shakedown> How come I've got 4GB of RAM and my System Monitor says I got 3.2GiB? What happened to my .8GB?
[21:39] <dr_willis> afief_,  'sudo apt-cache search hotmail' gives 3  tools you may want to try
[21:39] <unop> lonforce, something like that yea - but gnome-do would be too 'fancy' for most fluxbox users
[21:39] <jlc> unop, using Hardy, when I do that and give others folder access and file access, when I click on "Apply Permissions" it takes away file access.
[21:39] <potsmokers> if i have 2G amount of RAM, is it ok if i create 512MB of swap file partition?
[21:39] <dr_willis> oops no sudo needed. :)
[21:39] <afief_> dr_willis, thanks:)
[21:39] <afief_> dr_willis, just a note, apt-cache doesn't need root
[21:39] <kaneda_> unop, nvm, i'll just make my own start up thingy instead of using a screenlet, problem solved if the problem is the screenlet :D
[21:39] <unop> kaneda_, I would assume that the screenlet launches xterm using a command - there's a switch to xterm to force a scrollbar - the manpage should list it
[21:39] <meoblast001> how do i get consumer affordable support from canoncial?
[21:39] <dr_willis> i allready said that. :P
[21:40] <kaneda_> ^^
[21:40] <meoblast001> they think everyone who needs reliable support with their problems is a company
[21:40] <lonforce> dr_willis: ok thx! Just found a nice one...
[21:40] <danny_> how do i remove any and all of the flash plugins i installed?  i want to start clean with flash
[21:40] <scordy> ciao a tutti
[21:40] <en1gma> _Zeus_, so how would i tell apt-get to install the source also
[21:40] <unop> jlc, do you remove permissions for  user and group when doing that?
[21:40] <kaneda_> ciao ciao
[21:40] <en1gma> i see the package with apt-cache search
[21:40] <en1gma> but i dont see the source
[21:40] <hydrate> can anyone tell me how to resolve the error "Package g77 is not available, but is referred to by another package." ?
[21:40] <magnetron> meoblast001, http://www.ubuntu.com/support
[21:40] <hydrate> i need it to compile a program
[21:41] <meoblast001> magnetron: too much money
[21:41] <lonforce> unop: ok, I'll just try those apps out thanks!
[21:41] <jlc> unop, no, should I?
[21:41] <enzotib> kaneda_, press Ctrl-CentralMouseButton and you have a menu
[21:41] <unop> en1gma, you don't install source pakages - you' cant   but   apt-get source package_name  #downloads the source into the current directory
[21:41] <Chousuke> hydrate: perhaps you don't have all repositories enabled.
[21:41] <en1gma> ah ok thanks
[21:41] <Chousuke> hydrate: or maybe g77 is provided by something else.
[21:41] <kaneda_> enzotib, trackpad
[21:41] <potsmokers> pls help... i need a little advice here... :(
[21:41] <unop> jlc, no - because if you aren't I don't see how existing access is disrupted then
[21:42] <magnetron> meoblast001, did you compare the the prices that the different partner companies there offer?
[21:42] <enzotib> kaneda_, you have samething similar to left and right mouse buttons?
[21:42] <DarkCharlie> Can somebody help me? For some reason after a while of being on Ubuntu, programs hang immediately after being started.
[21:42] <unop> jlc, what happens when you try and create a file or directory within that one then?
[21:42] <jlc> unop, it chenges all three to "--"
[21:42] <hydrate> DarkCharlie what distribution are you using?
[21:43] <DarkCharlie> Hydrate: 8.04
[21:43] <meoblast001> magnetron: training partners?
[21:43] <magnetron> meoblast001, no
[21:43] <bastique> hey all
[21:43] <unop> jlc, odd, very odd - do you consistently see that happen?  because that's not intended and you might like to file a !bug
[21:43] <jlc> unop, it changes all three folder access to "--"
[21:43] <meoblast001> magnetron: so what am i looking for?
[21:43] <danny_> how do i remove all the flash plugins?
[21:43] <unop> jlc, to work around this - you could create the directory using another file manager or the terminal perhaps?
 i am unsure, i had it quite recently... especially with nautilus, ive just installed 8.10 to see if it makes a difference
[21:43] <Dr3mro> i am new to linux and i heared about linux from scatch how to update lfs i mean in ubuntu just icon say i have updates but in lfs what is the update method or how i can port ubuntu updates to lfs?
[21:44] <bastique> I'm trying to get my Ubuntu 8.04 to connect to my WPA network at home, but it's timing out or something
[21:44] <magnetron> meoblast001, look the canonical partners linked to from the support page i gave you. did you compare those prices?
[21:44] <DarkCharlie> Hydrate: Have you noticed any difference?
[21:44] <unop> Dr3mro, we don't support other flavours and variants of linux here - you should ask this question in ##linux
[21:44] <dr_willis> Dr3mro,  LFS has its own website/channel and books. LFS uses the source packages for all its stuff. it dosent automate much of anything
[21:44] <meoblast001> id actually like it if i could get this stuff to work for free
 are you sure your using the right password? an have it set to the correct wpa?
[21:44] <bastique> hydrate, yes, it's my home WPA and using the same password
[21:45] <bastique> I even changed the password temporarily to reset it.
 yes it hasnt crashed once yet, although it wont let my install my touchscreen drivers because it needs g77... which it wont let me install
[21:45] <DarkCharlie> Hydrate: Ahh, I see. I'll try that. Thanks. :)
[21:45] <dr_willis> meoblast001,  what 'stuff'  ? forums and google is our friends.
[21:45] <hydrate> bastique> have you tried removing encryption from the wlan temporarily and connecting that way?
[21:45] <bastique> It just says, "Waiting for Network Key for the wireless network '<my network name>'
[21:46] <bastique> hydrate: I can try that
[21:46] <jlc> unop, how would I change permissions from terminal?
[21:47] <Geforce88> when using ASH, how can i check rootdelay and change it? or, do i have to use the cmd line during boot ?
[21:47] <unop> jlc, using  chmod  e.g.   chmod o+rw dir_name  #gives read and write to other
[21:47] <hydrate> can anyone here please tell me what i can do about the lack of apt-get being able to install g77 on intrepid ibex?
[21:47] <unop> !8.10 > hydrate
[21:47] <meoblast001> dr_willis: google cant fix my problems.. i asked A MILLION TIMES
[21:48] <meoblast001> im getting angry and stressed
[21:48] <meoblast001> im gonna need to find a way to get the stress to go awa
[21:48] <meoblast001> y
[21:48] <potsmokers> what is the best irc client on ubuntu?
[21:48] <meoblast001> damn keyboard cant type y's
[21:48] <imperfect-> Anyone know how to force a network card to take a particule device name?
[21:48] <xomp> !u | meoblast001
[21:48] <bastique> Now it's hanging up on "attempting to join wireless network '<my network name>' @ hydrate
[21:48] <unop> !best | potsmokers
[21:48] <imperfect-> I've got a four port ethernet pci adapter in my box and everytime i reboot the devices iterate
[21:48] <imperfect-> and im up to eth29--33
[21:49] <selig5> meoblast001: what doesn't work?
[21:49] <meoblast001> saned will only run when ran in debug mode
[21:49] <meoblast001> otherwise it dies
 it seems to be an issue with either your wireless drivers themselves then or your setup, and not the wpa part of it, if other devices can connect to it then its a problem with your laptop, i cant help beyond that but maybe with some more information someone else can
[21:49] <meoblast001> and it doesnt actually have permittions to print
[21:49] <Geforce88> my ubuntu won't boot. the drive is timing out. i need to change hte root delay. how do i do this, and where?
[21:49] <DarkCharlie> Why is it that when I use [Ctrl]+[Alt]+[Backspace] a gray box appears in the upper-right hand corner of my screen when it comes back on?
[21:49] <jlc> unop, thank you for your help.
[21:50] <bastique> hydrate: thanks... probably my laptop.  The Mac portion of the dual boot connects just fine :(
[21:50] <jblp> Test
[21:51] <meoblast001> brb im gonna go get something to drink... if you have any answers at all.. please tell
[21:53] <meoblast001> back
[21:53] <meoblast001> no answers i see
[21:53]  * beautifulsnow doesnt understand the question ^^;;;
[21:53] <anlif> Hi, I have a question about bind9, is it ok if I ask here?
[21:53] <beautifulsnow> DarkCharlie, that box is an aplication loading.
[21:53] <dr_willis> !patience | meoblast001
[21:54] <dr_willis> :)
[21:54] <beautifulsnow> DarkCharlie,  it disapears after a few seconds, right?
[21:54] <meoblast001> paitents? i've been in here for 2 hours
[21:54] <meoblast001> asking 1 question
[21:54] <nowimproved> how do I dump the contents of an xbox game I cant even mount it
[21:54] <dr_willis> meoblast001,  and if no one knows.. then no one knows..
[21:54] <DarkCharlie> beautifulsnow: No, it stays up there until I restart my computer.
[21:54] <beautifulsnow> oh
[21:54] <Pici> nowimproved: Thats outside the scope of this channel.
[21:54] <kri> hi i want to view all the activity on the LAN what tools do i get?
[21:54] <kri> i tryed wireshark
[21:54] <kri> but 'dumpcap: There are no interfaces on which a capture can be done'
[21:55] <Geforce88> my ubuntu won't boot. the drive is timing out. i need to change hte root delay. how do i do this, and where?
[21:55] <beautifulsnow> nowimproved,  whats the file extension?
[21:55] <dr_willis> Geforce88,  ive never seen any sort of 'root delay' setting anywhere.. last time i had a drive  not spin up fast enough to boot.. the drive was dieing.. and died soon afterwards..
[21:55] <beautifulsnow> Geforce88,  Your question isn't clear (to me atleast.. ) What do you mean the drive is timing out? The root delay? You mean the seconds it takes before the default OS is loaded?
[21:55] <beautifulsnow> Oh oops sorry :P I get it now
[21:56] <dtolj> Is there a Nautilus extension or similar that allows me to switch to superuser in nautilus?
[21:56] <guy_> good afternoon all
[21:56] <SlimG> Anyone know of a Ubuntu-repos with the newest Amarok 2 Beta in it?
[21:56] <corunum> hello, I installed lmms and it is not listed under applications. However, I can run it by typing lmms on terminal.
[21:56] <Geforce88> beautifulsnow, i receive an eror after upgrade the drive isn't beign mounted due to an uuid error. possible causes/fix is to increase the rootdelay. i wanted to try that fix first. this is a working drive.
[21:57] <beautifulsnow> guy_,  does this help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=768361
[21:57] <BlueEagle> !info lmms
[21:57] <|tom|> quick question: im trying to install electric sheep, and the first direction is to download the script to the home directory and run sudo install-electricsheep-package.sh in the terminall
[21:57] <en1gma> is this the actual bug report site https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ttysnoop/+bug/250795
[21:57] <meoblast001> im gonna have a stroke
[21:57] <meoblast001> please
[21:57] <|tom|> but as soon as i run that, i get "sudo install-electricsheep-package.sh: command not found"
[21:57] <beautifulsnow> Geforce88,  use /dev/YourDriveHere instead of UUID and it should work, no?
[21:57] <selig5> dtolj: launch nautilus from terminal using gksudo command.
[21:57] <hateball> |tom|: make sure it's executable byt doing: chmod +x filename
[21:58] <en1gma> i get the same exact error as the guy who reported that bug
[21:58] <en1gma> i jsut want to make sure it is the correct site to report bugs
[21:58] <Pici> |tom|: electricsheep is in the package repositories
[21:58] <Pici> !info electricsheep | |tom|
[21:58] <dr_willis> meoblast001,  best thing to do wouldbe to write up a little web site/post/forum post with the details of the problem.. then every so often ask your question and refer people to the forum thread.  That way they can see all the details and see what others have suggested.
[21:58] <corunum> nevermind, I just added a launcher with "lmms" as the command. Thanks
[21:58] <Geforce88> i've Never gotten electricsheep to work
[21:58] <dr_willis> meoblast001,  im not even clear on what your actual problem is any more.
[21:59] <dtolj> selig5: Is that the only way? no internal mechanism to switch users?
[21:59] <|tom|> i tried downloading the package and it didnt seem complete, you couldnt vote the sheep up or down and it couldnt download new ones
[22:00] <selig5> dtolj: I don't know about that.
[22:01] <ferland> I installed 8.04 on an old Dell Inspiron 8100 laptop, but when I insert a CD into the optical drive... the system freezes. What can I try to fix this?
[22:02] <HtheB> hi all
[22:03] <mrbrdo> join #aircrack-ng
[22:03] <HtheB> when I put my laptop to standby, then when I boot my laptop again, I dont have any sound!? :(
[22:03] <HtheB> does someone knows why this is happening??? :(
[22:04] <ferland> I have this problem too
[22:04] <mdl-unit> Is there any appreciable difference between 32 and 64-bit when it comes to battery life?
[22:04] <lonforce> ok I'm stuck in fluxbox, I opened nautlius and now I don't get the application context menu anymore...
[22:04] <dr_willis> mdl-unit,  i hear 64bit can cause WORSE battery life
[22:05] <dr_willis> lonforce,  nautilus took over the desktop, and the 'root menu'   - you can start nautilus with some optuions where it does not do that.
[22:05] <dr_willis> lonforce,  use nautilus --no-desktop         i belive
[22:05] <lonforce> dr_willis: hehe, I don't get it anymore, so all these window manager coexist somehow in the same session?
[22:06] <HtheB> ferland,
[22:06] <HtheB> the sound problem?
[22:06] <dr_willis> lonforce,  its like 'legos' different software blocks stacking together to build up the whole interface.
[22:06] <dr_willis> lonforce,  fluxbox is a 'window manager' thats it.. :) gnome uses metacity as its widnow maanger, to do the basic stuff then nautilus does the 'desktop' and other features
[22:07] <lonforce> dr_willis: thats cool tnx! Just right now I also managed to close the menubar... All I got now is xchat and the wallpaper, how can I restart? :)
[22:07] <dr_willis> lonforce,  if you run 'gnome-panel' you will have the gnome panel, on top of the fluxbox window manager
[22:07] <thomc> what does the no_subtree_check option do in /etc/exports
[22:07] <lonforce> dr_willis: ah cool, but will the great performance stay even mit the gnome-panel on?
[22:07] <dr_willis> lonforce,  you can make your own .Xsession and customize exactly what gets ran.. but then the job is yours ot make sure they all play nicely
[22:08] <dr_willis> lonforce,  ive never noticed that much preformace differances. :)  the more apps you run the more load on the system..  use what you like.. turn off what you dont want
[22:08] <badfish> how do i dump netstat to a .log file?
[22:08] <BlueEagle> badfish: netstat > logfile.txt
[22:08] <kaneda_> or to append >>
[22:09] <dr_willis> be care full with the append >> thing. :) you can overwrite files by mistake
[22:09] <kaneda_> i thought >>wouldn't overwrite
[22:09] <BlueEagle> dr_willis: Would you mind explaining how that would overwrite?
[22:09] <lonforce> dr_willis: ok, I just managed to do some over custimization ... how can I reset fluxbox?
[22:09] <badfish> ty
[22:10] <dr_willis> BlueEagle,  i ment to append to a log once.. and did a typo once and removed my other log.. i forget if i ment to use > when i used >> or if i was the othe rway around.
[22:10] <dr_willis> BlueEagle,  perhaps  i used > >  with a space..
[22:10] <robelliott2125> Hoping someone can help.  I'm using a Wifi Belkin Card, on Hardy, and for some reason my transfer rates both local and internet, is slow.
[22:10] <dr_willis> lets just say it pays to be carefull with > and >>  :)
[22:10] <lonforce> dr_willis: ah ok got it !! thanks man you have been a great help, I'll go to sleep now, have a nice evening or day where ever you live...
[22:10] <BlueEagle> dr_willis: Ahh. Well if you use > or > > instead of >> you will overwrite, yes.
[22:10] <dr_willis> lonforce,  log out/back in perahs?
[22:11] <dr_willis> BlueEagle,  that 'noclober' setting i think   is usefull for brain dead people like me.
[22:11] <BlueEagle> dr_willis: We've all been zombies at 4am and done stupid things. ;)
[22:13] <xomp> robelliott2125, I too have a Belkin Wifi adapter for my laptop and compared to windows my signal strength on windows is 95% good throughput, in linux it's 25% with low throughput.
[22:15] <robelliott2125> xomp , i've 100% signal, but transfering files between the pc downstairs (where the router is based) and ftp'ing from the net, is really slow.  Just wondering how to sort this out.  Any ideas?
[22:15] <S-i-A> hi
[22:15] <S-i-A> can i change the xubuntu splash screen to ubuntu splash screen?
[22:15] <xomp> robelliott2125, I wouldn't trust what percentage the signal strength shows in ubuntu, I find it to be a lie.
[22:15] <chaddy> S-i-A: yes, just install the appropriate usplash package
[22:15] <robelliott2125> xomp , That side of things isn't the problem though
[22:16] <S-i-A> chaddy: which package?
[22:16] <robelliott2125> Its finding out why the transfer rate is so damned low xomp
[22:16] <goose> my connect to server tools are totally screwed up
[22:16] <goose> I can't SSH or SMB or anything
[22:16] <xomp> robelliott2125, I would say it is a problem if you're being informed incorrectly making you assume all is well, wouldn't you?
[22:16] <goose> GUI or CLI
[22:16] <robelliott2125> xomp , i know its a problem, but I want a solution to this
[22:16] <chaddy> S-i-A: usplash-theme-ubuntu
[22:17] <xomp> robelliott2125, signal strength should be relevant to transfer speeds, right?
[22:17] <Jorophose> if I set up ubuntu with Multi-Seat X or make it so that there can be somebody using it remotely, can I still play games if I'm connected directly to the computer?
[22:17] <S-i-A> chaddy: thanx but i will just the default splash screen from ubuntu and remove the xubuntu splash screen
[22:18] <dr_willis> Jorophose,  should be able to if they are remote.. they will be taking up some of the ram/processor load.. but ive done so befor.
[22:18] <goose> I can't SSH or SMB into servers/computer via CLI or GUI. How can I fix this? I don't wanna go back to being a vista slave :(
[22:18] <dr_willis> Jorophose,  not sure about Multi-seat X however..
[22:18] <chaddy> S-i-A: usplash-theme-ubuntu is the default ubuntu splash screen
[22:18] <Jorophose> Hmm
[22:18] <xomp> robelliott2125, me too :) believe me, I've spent plenty of time asking (both here & on the forums) and nobody has been able to assist with it. I guess there are too many variables that come into play with this kind of stuff :)
[22:18] <robelliott2125> Don't know xomp, I know the router is below me, theres nothing which should degrade the transfer rate
[22:18] <kaneda_> cpu usage screenlet
[22:18] <Jorophose> so you mean like, if it's just a tunneled X, it should work fine?
[22:18] <kaneda_> >_<
[22:18] <S-i-A> chaddy:
[22:18] <dr_willis> goose,  well clarify what you have done to troule shoot the problem TO THE CHANNEL. :) you have installed ssh and samba?
[22:18] <S-i-A> thanx
[22:18] <aaron> can someone help? aaron@Christian:~$ sudo mount /dev/scd0  /media/cdrom0/
[22:18] <aaron> mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[22:18] <aaron> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[22:18] <Jorophose> and how much RAM would you advise then?... is it possible to have the stuff run with the "device" by default?...
[22:19] <goose> lol. ok dr_willis, I've tried reinstalling every possible SSH related package and Nautilus, and it still doesn't work
[22:19] <goose> the servers are up fine, I can SSH in from other computers
[22:19] <goose> it's just a problem with my laptop
[22:19] <robelliott2125> Well, considering the dreded winblows is fine with the transfer rate, it seems to be ubuntu, some help should be given xomp
[22:19] <nootrope> anyone have a recommendation for an graphical ssh client
[22:19] <dr_willis> goose,  clarify 'dosent work'  you can use 'ssh' with some options to get some very verbose logging/trouble shooting info. sounds like it may be a firewall issue.
[22:19] <goose> nootrope, Places > Connect to Server
[22:19] <robelliott2125> xomp , i've just stumbled onto this:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-382817.html
[22:20] <goose> dr_willis, I get a "timeout" error, it doesn't connect
[22:20] <Marco> Hello
[22:20] <goose> nootrope, Places > Connect to Server, Ubuntu comes with a nice GUI SSH built in ;)
[22:20] <xomp> robelliott2125, yeah, I know, it's why I use Windows primarily on my laptop now and ubuntu on my desktop, maybe in the next 12 years someone can get the wifi right and all will be well :P
[22:20] <robelliott2125> lol
[22:21] <googlefan> btw, ekiga have support for skype?
[22:21] <Marco> A year ago, I remember reading about an ubuntu-based (at least I think it was ubuntu-based) distro that was a home server and used a web frontend coded in rails for administration.  Can anyone tell me what it's called, I'm having a hard time finding it on google?
[22:21] <nootrope> thanks, goose!
[22:21] <robelliott2125> But in the meantime, i've slow transfer when trying to use my damned pc.
[22:21] <robelliott2125> Great...
[22:21] <Jorophose> hmm, I've found a good thin client site now, so I think I should be ok. thanks dr_willis!
[22:21] <goose> welcome, nootrope
[22:21] <dr_willis> Jorophose,  i tend to just use xdmcp, or vnc
[22:21] <goose> dr_willis, more details in my forum thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=942229
[22:22] <goose> but nobody there can help me either
[22:22] <Miesco> Whats a good network manager?
[22:22] <xomp> robelliott2125, there are 2 things that's killing (and will continue to kill) linux, 1.) Wireless Support 2.) Printer Support. Both are to say the very least lacking :/ Outside of that it's wonderful!
[22:23] <goose> Miesco, what for?
[22:23] <googlefan> !nm
[22:23] <dr_willis> goose,  could test some live cd, see if it can ssh in. :)  then carefull examination of    the server logs, and ssh -v (or -vvv) output for very verbose logging.. would be the start I guess
[22:23] <googlefan> !NetWorkManager
[22:23] <Miesco> goose: For wireless connections and stuff
[22:24] <Jorophose> hmm
[22:24] <goose> dr_willis, I have ssh -vvv on page 2 or 3 of that forum post
[22:24] <Miesco> Cause im always changing my access points
[22:24] <goose> Miesco, is the default one not working for you?
[22:24] <googlefan> !NetWorkManager | Miesco
[22:24] <goose> Miesco, if the default won't work for you, sudo apt-get install wifi-radar
[22:24] <dr_willis> goose,  good . the #ssh guys may also be of help. I imagine its some little thing that everyone is just overlooking. But i gotta go to work.. good luck
[22:24] <goose> thanks dr_willis
[22:25] <Miesco> goose: I save a WPA2 key and it connects, but when I open the window it says its a WPA key
[22:26] <chickenfuego2> goose hello. What file do you have under .ssh on your target server?
[22:26] <chickenfuego2> might be an unappropriate know_hosts file.
[22:27] <szonek> hi
[22:27] <goose> chickenfuego2, what folder should I look in?
[22:27] <chickenfuego2> goose what do you have with: "cd" "cd .ssh" "ls -lha"
[22:27] <chaddy> hi szonek
[22:27] <blah569> Say I have a raw video file and a raw sound file.  Is there a method I can use to merge both of the files together (via terminal)?
[22:27] <chickenfuego2> goose type these 3 commands on a shell on your target server.
[22:27] <meoblast001> what does "Failed to start scanner: Invalid argument" mean?
[22:28] <AlexKare_> Hey, can anyone help a total newbie real quick?
[22:28] <LjL> meoblast001: might mean a lot of things i'm afraid, is that an Epson?
[22:28] <szonek> i have dv2000 laptop, and brightness (backlight) control with my function keys doesn't work.. i see it does something in acpid log (running video_brightnessup.sh) but it doesn't change the backlight
[22:28] <chaddy> AlexKare_: not usually real quick, but it depends what question you have
[22:28] <meoblast001> LjL: no its a Brother
[22:28] <meoblast001> scanimage can start it though
[22:28] <AlexKare_> Haha thanks. Yeah, I'm trying to open compizconfig, but can't find it anywhere.
[22:29] <LjL> meoblast001: what can't?
[22:29] <goose> chickenfuego2, there are no files in that dir
[22:29] <Henry_> When I start the live cd to install ubuntu, it sits at the word GRUB at boot up
[22:29] <chaddy> AlexKare_: preferences>appearance enable desktop effects
[22:29] <Henry_> how do i fix that
[22:29] <LjL> i thought the live CD didn't use GRUB...?
[22:29] <chaddy> AlexKare_: you may also want to install compizconfig-settings-manager
[22:29] <AlexKare_> Oh, maybe that's what I'm missing. What's the command for that?
[22:30] <chickenfuego2> goose, in your target server or on your pc where you try to do the ssh from?
[22:30] <marciel> ademan
[22:30] <chaddy> AlexKare_: sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager
[22:30] <jackal> traansformers
[22:30] <Henry_> well how do i change it from using grub, it wont go past that stage
[22:31] <AlexKare_> Awesome, thanks so much chaddy. I had it before on a previous computer but couldn't remember how I got it, lol.
[22:31] <chaddy> AlexKare_: no worries, enjoy ;)
[22:31] <jackal> sorry where i can kept transformer the film?
[22:31] <jin> sweet, I got dual monitor working in 2 minutes :-)
[22:31] <LjL> Henry_: i don't know, since i thought it *never* used GRUB to begin with. but the first thing you should try when you have a CD that doesn't work is verifying it
[22:31] <chaddy> and what do you know, it was real quick :D
[22:31] <LjL> !verify | Henry_
[22:31] <AlexKare_> Haha yes it was!
[22:32] <AlexKare_> This is my first time using XChat, too.
[22:32] <goose> chickenfuego2, nevermind, got what you need. it's 4 lines, should I patebin?
[22:32] <chickenfuego2> yes
[22:32] <chickenfuego2> and also paste: "ssh -v" on both machines plz.
[22:32] <goose> chickenfuego2, http://pastebin.com/m3d362807
[22:32] <chaddy> AlexKare_: you're doing well, keep the relaxed attitude and the world is your oyster ;)
[22:33] <goose> chickenfuego2, http://pastebin.com/m3734e969
[22:33] <Henry_> well im just trying to install it on a seperate hdd and installing it inside windows doesnt work either, it just crashes
[22:33] <szonek> i have dv2000 laptop, and brightness (backlight) control with my function keys doesn't work.. i see it does something in acpid log (running video_brightnessup.sh) but it doesn't change the backlight... ?
[22:33] <Miesco> What do I put for WPA driver in wifi-radar?
[22:33] <chickenfuego2> ok, what about "goose@SERVER.org:~/.ssh$  ls -lha" ?
[22:33] <AlexKare_> Haha I hope so. I've become a crazy Ubuntu fan in the past month or so. I'm a bit obsessed with learning the command line.
[22:33] <goose> chickenfuego2, that was the first pastebin
[22:34] <chickenfuego2> ok, the the same on your laptop plz.
[22:34] <chaddy> AlexKare_: come across the linux cookbook, yet?
[22:34] <goose> chickenfuego2, http://pastebin.com/m1c0d7beb
[22:34] <jin> dual monitor on Ubuntu nice :-)
[22:35] <meoblast001> LjL: do you know why its not scanning?
[22:35] <AlexKare_> I'm going to say no to that one.
[22:35] <adi> hi all
[22:35] <Danskmand> Howdy :-) - I got an AVM Fritzcard PCI in my hardy PC...It "somehow" is installed (at least fcpci is shown when entering "sudo jockey-gtk --list" -> kmod:fcpci - CAPI4Linux: Driver for AVM FRITZ!Card PCI (restricted, Enabled, Not in use). I want to use the card .
[22:35] <Danskmand> But I *guess* that its not misdn that I use...How can I make it use misdn ?
[22:35] <jackal> hi all
[22:35] <chaddy> AlexKare_: http://dsl.org/cookbook/cookbook_toc.html you might enjoy it
[22:35] <Ax-Ax> hello
[22:35] <chickenfuego2> goose@goose-laptop:~/.ssh$ cat known_host
[22:35] <chickenfuego2> ?
[22:35] <jackal> voglio scaricare dei film
[22:35] <LjL> meoblast001, no. i'd still like to know, however, where it is that it's not working, since you said it works with scanimage
[22:35] <jackal> come cazzo si fa?
[22:35] <LjL> !it | jackal
[22:35] <adi> is there any way not to type the pwd any time i need to do tasks as admin?
[22:35] <Ax-Ax> could anyone tell me how to pipe the results of find to rm?
[22:35] <goose> chickenfuego2, http://pastebin.com/m2a7999ec
[22:36] <adi> im the only one  to use my os
[22:36] <chaddy> adi: not recommended, you could log in as root
[22:36] <Ax-Ax> adi: you could change your sudoers file
[22:36] <chaddy> adi: bit of an involved process
[22:36] <goose> adi, not a good idea :/
[22:36] <LjL> Ax-Ax: you might not need to, since "find" comes with a "-delete" option (man find)
[22:36] <adi> i want  to og in with a pass
[22:36] <Ax-Ax> cool
[22:36] <S-i-A> chaddy: is already installed
[22:36] <S-i-A> but the splash is stil xubuntu
[22:37] <adi> but not to type the pass any single time that I nedd synaptic or somethin else
[22:37] <meoblast001> LjL: its on my desk next to my server
[22:37] <LjL> meoblast001: "where" as in "in which program"
[22:37] <meoblast001> saned
[22:37] <chaddy> S-i-A: aptitude remove xubuntu-artwork-usplash, then
[22:37] <Ax-Ax> adi: edit sudoers
[22:37] <meoblast001> xsane on my other system being the client
[22:37] <chickenfuego2> goose the content of your known_host file is strange, the lines should start with hostnames. Try this: "mv known_host known_host.old" and retry the ssh
[22:37] <adi> where are sudoers?
[22:38] <Ax-Ax> adi: man sudoers
[22:38] <adi> do you mean gedit sudoers?
[22:38] <adi> or there is such file in my sys
[22:38] <SlimeyPete> there's a file in /etc
[22:38] <Ax-Ax> well, it's in /etc i think
[22:38] <chickenfuego2> goose after moving the file, ssh should ask for confirmation on the first ssh to a new machine. just type yes.
[22:38] <LjL> meoblast001: have you checked the saned logs for any hint? you can confirm it works, scans, and does everything with scanimage, anyway? (and are you running scanimage on the server, or the client?)
[22:38] <Ax-Ax> but don't edit it with a standard editor!
[22:38] <Ax-Ax> use visudo
[22:39] <adi> once I edited sudoers what to do next?
[22:39] <thinkgnu> how can i have voice chat in linux?
[22:39] <goose> chickenfuego2, it asked me for the confirmation, but I got timed out again
[22:39] <K99Brain> LjL, sorry, just a little OT because i see you here. When we can have the floodbot in #ubuntu-it?
[22:39] <chickenfuego2> goose sorry it was "mv known_hosts known_hosts.old"
[22:39] <goose> I know :p
[22:39] <chaddy> thinkgnu: ekiga
[22:39] <chaddy> thinkgnu: skype is also available
[22:39] <LjL> K99Brain: even right now if you want, but it still has that problem.
[22:39] <Ax-Ax> adi: edit so it reads: youruser ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
[22:40] <thinkgnu> chaddy: no , i have so many problem with skype
[22:40] <chickenfuego2> ok goose, plz paste that: on your server: "cat /etc/sshd_config" or /etc/sshd_conf or so
[22:40] <goose> chickenfuego2, http://pastebin.com/m17fd6e59
[22:40] <chaddy> thinkgnu: asterisk, also
[22:40] <goose> on my laptop
[22:40] <goose> one second to do what you asked
[22:40] <thinkgnu> chaddy: but it seems ekiga is fine
[22:40] <LjL> !info ekiga | thinkgnu
[22:40] <chaddy> thinkgnu: cool
[22:40] <chickenfuego2> goose  "cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config"
[22:41] <Ax-Ax> adi: like mine http://pastebin.com/m6c464025
[22:41] <goose> chickenfuego2, http://pastebin.com/m5b1b9eb8
[22:41] <K99Brain> LjL, mmh, ok. thank you
[22:41] <adi> ok
[22:42] <thinkgnu> chaddy: thanks , it's what i look for
[22:42] <chaddy> thinkgnu: you're welcome ;)
[22:42] <adi> ok i think i got it
[22:42] <adi> :)
[22:42] <AlexKarev> I'm an idiot, haha. Thanks, though, chaddy, for the link!
[22:42] <meoblast001> LjL: i coulsnt find sane logs
[22:42] <[Roosta]> @seek mindfreak
[22:42] <chickenfuego2> goose you have "PermitEmptyPasswords no", do you have a password?
[22:42] <chaddy> AlexKarev: you don't strike me as an idiot, you're welcome, too
[22:42] <goose> yes
[22:42] <goose> I'm entering it correctly
[22:43] <goose> I can SSH when I putty through WINE
[22:43] <goose> just not natively in linux :/
[22:43] <AlexKarev> Haha I'm just new at this. Trying to do too much at once, I guess.
[22:43] <meoblast001> LjL: where are sane logs?
[22:44] <Danskmand> Noone can help me ?
[22:44] <goose> Danskmand, what's your problem?
[22:44] <LjL> meoblast001: i think they're just scattered around /var/log/syslog
[22:45] <Marco> I remember reading a while back about a linux home server distribution that used rails frontends for administration
[22:45] <meoblast001> LjL: -bash: cd: /var/log/syslog: Not a directory
[22:45] <Marco> does anyone knows what it's called?
[22:45] <goose> IRL? :P
[22:46] <LjL> meoblast001: it's a file, indeed. a text file. i meant "scattered" as in "scattered around other messages". try cat /var/log/syslog | grep sane
[22:46] <Danskmand> (23:35:10) Danskmand: Howdy :-) - I got an AVM Fritzcard PCI in my hardy PC...It "somehow" is installed (at least fcpci is shown when entering "sudo jockey-gtk --list" -> kmod:fcpci - CAPI4Linux: Driver for AVM FRITZ!Card PCI (restricted, Enabled, Not in use). I want to use the card .
[22:46] <Danskmand> (23:35:10) Danskmand: But I *guess* that its not misdn that I use...How can I make it use misdn ?
[22:46] <goose> chickenfuego2, still alive on me? :p
[22:46] <chickenfuego2> goose, everything seems fine. You might have something between the two machines. Plz try "traceroute youserver.com" from your laptop plz.
[22:46] <chickenfuego2> goose yes.
[22:47] <chickenfuego2> and plz do a fresh "nmap yourserver.org" and paste it plz.
[22:47] <meoblast001> LjL: sudo: /var/log/syslog: command not found
[22:47] <bunnyto> I love ubuntu
[22:47] <LjL> meoblast001: i said "cat /var/log/syslog | grep sane"
[22:47] <alphamale1> hi, downloading ubuntu server edition. which would be a faster server to download from if im at location USA: 32564
[22:47] <kaneda_> does anyone here use screenlets and wants to help me verify a bug quickly?
[22:47] <chickenfuego2> goose I ve read you got nmap installed, right?
[22:48] <goose> chickenfuego2, I think so, but it's not doing anything...
[22:48] <goose> goose@goose-laptop:~/.ssh$ nmap nodetwo.org
[22:48] <goose> Starting Nmap 4.53 ( http://insecure.org ) at 2008-10-13 16:47 CDT
[22:48] <chickenfuego2> goose it is taking some time.. it is ok.
[22:48] <dr_willis> alphamale1,  it pretty much depends on the server load at the time.. its day timne in the USA. I imagine later tonight it will get much faster.
[22:48] <goose> oh, there it goes
[22:48] <chickenfuego2> in the meantime, you can try the traceroute in another shell.
[22:48] <dr_willis> alphamale1,  often i find during 'prime time' its faster to use a server outside theusa. :) go figure.
[22:49] <meoblast001> LjL: http://pastebin.com/d6daf3809
[22:49] <Ax-Ax> adi: does it work?
[22:49] <remoteLAP> hi folks
[22:49] <bunnyto> hi sexy
[22:49] <alphamale1> dr_willis: hmm//   The National weather service is givving 130 Kbs
[22:49] <LjL> meoblast001: uh oh, is that an "all-in-one" printer+scanner?
[22:49] <kaneda_> i cant seem to get the weather screenlet to work either
[22:49] <chickenfuego2> goose, ok?
[22:49] <adi> 1 sek
[22:49] <goose> chickenfuego2, one second
[22:49] <meoblast001> LjL: yes
[22:49] <goose> tracerouting
[22:49] <kaneda_> does anyone know why it might be telling me it couldnt connect to weather.com?
[22:49] <chickenfuego2> fine..
[22:50] <demontager> what the name of xmms client same as winamp?
[22:50] <goose> kaneda_, it has aids?
[22:50] <dr_willis> alphamale1,  that dosent have tons of kids downloading the latest iso and stuff from it :)   But i find it often just depends on the time of day.
[22:50] <LjL> meoblast001: then try doing "modprobe -r usblp" on the server, then try again scanning, then check the log again (if it still doesn't work)
[22:50] <SlimeyPete> same as?
[22:50] <remoteLAP> i bought myself this neat little visortech usb tongle that maks my lap lock the screen when i move more then say 2m away from it, any suggestions how to get this working in ubuntu?
[22:50] <chickenfuego2> demontager, linamp?
[22:50] <goose> chickenfuego2, http://pastebin.com/m4f4c5fea
[22:50] <SlimeyPete> cor, that's a blast from the past
[22:50] <SlimeyPete> is linamp still going?
[22:50] <chickenfuego2> http://ostatic.com/37930-software-opensource/linamp
[22:50] <demontager> it is fronted of xmms?
[22:51] <dr_willis> remoteLAP,  check google for a start I guess.. :) good luck getting some of that  'cutting edge' hardware may be impossible to get going under linux.
[22:51] <meoblast001> LjL: http://pastebin.com/d665ea3c1
[22:51] <demontager> I need GUI program for xmms
[22:51] <remoteLAP> dr_willis: well a workmate of mine has one working in suse, so if the can do that i guess ubuntu should somehow?
[22:51] <Ademan> xmms *is* a gui...
[22:51] <Ademan> you mean xmms2 ?
[22:52] <chickenfuego2> mmh goose and "nslookup youserver.com"?
[22:52] <dr_willis> remoteLAP,  thats a very good sign then.  of course the pakcages may not exist for ubuntu yet.
[22:52] <demontager> but when i tiped xmms2-nothing appear
[22:52] <chickenfuego2> (sudo apt-get nslookup, if needed)
[22:52] <beautifulsnow> remoteLAP, right, the packages might not be available for ubuntu yet. isnt suse a paid distro?
[22:52] <dr_willis> xmms2 is a server.backend.. you still need a front end for it.
[22:52] <zamba> i need a utility to control the fan speed in ubuntu..
[22:52] <dr_willis> !xmms
[22:52] <demontager> xmms2 i mean
[22:52] <halycon> Does anyone have any experience with using bluetooth in Ubuntu? I am trying to connect to a Nokia 6121c phone and it currently isn't detectable
[22:52] <halycon> ?
[22:52] <Danskmand> Goose: Any idea ?
[22:52] <adi> here is my sudoers file. what to change in here? http://paste.ubuntu.com/57157/
[22:52] <goose> chickenfuego2, http://pastebin.com/m252aa06c
[22:52] <chickenfuego2> (sudo apt-get dnsutils, sorry)
[22:53] <Ademan> demontager: why are you using xmms2 anyways? if you like winamp style programs try audacity, otherwise use banshee or rhythmbox (or amarok)
[22:53] <kaneda_> &link=xoap <- is why my weather applet doesnt work
[22:53] <meoblast001> LjL?
[22:53] <goose> chickenfuego2, weird that it's returning my router's IP address. could it have to do with the fact that I'm connected through a router that's connected to a router that's connected to my modem?
[22:53] <demontager> xmms2 has remote control via bluetooth
[22:53] <Ademan> demontager: sorry i meant audacious
[22:53] <LjL> meoblast001: the modprobe didn't succeed, do it with sudo. "sudo modprobe -r usblp"
[22:54] <meoblast001> LjL: FATAL: Module usbl not found.
[22:54] <Ademan> anyone know if LIRC supports bluetooth?
[22:54] <robelliott2125> xomp , you still here???
[22:54] <remoteLAP> beautifulsnow: well it is a payed distro as is ubuntu, even if in a completely different way;)
[22:54] <demontager> So install audacious and it will have scin as winamp?
[22:54] <chickenfuego2> goose I guess you have strange things in between...
[22:54] <meoblast001> forgot the p
[22:54] <AlexKarev> Anyone in here ever been successful in running Digsby in Ubuntu? In Wine or otherwise?
[22:54] <LjL> meoblast001: usblp
[22:54] <remoteLAP> ikonia: are you there dude?
[22:54] <chickenfuego2> try "ssh goose@64.62.141.89"
[22:54] <LjL> not usbl
[22:54] <Ax-Ax> adi ehats your users name?
[22:55] <meoblast001> LjL: its saying the same thing
[22:55] <LjL> meoblast001: what have you typed?
[22:55] <adi> so I should add my username under th e line like this;
[22:55] <adi> # Uncomment to allow members of group sudo to not need a password
[22:55] <adi> axel ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
[22:55] <kaneda_> how can i make a section of the desktop not allowed for adding files?
[22:55] <Ax-Ax> but not axel
[22:55] <Danskmand> Can then someone else help me (cant be the only one using ISDN....)
[22:55] <Ademan> demontager: audacious is very similar to winamp, there's also audacious-plugins and audacious-plugins-extra  one of those might have a bluetooth plugin ,it's worth looking at since xmms2 is somewhat complicated if i remember right
[22:55] <goose> chickenfuego2, timed out
[22:55] <adi> yes
[22:55] <adi> adi instead
[22:55] <meoblast001> LjL: http://pastebin.com/d6225c924
[22:55] <chickenfuego2> grrr.
[22:55] <remoteLAP> unop: bazhang ikonia any of the wizzards in the house?
[22:56] <LjL> meoblast001: right, that worked this time
[22:56] <Ax-Ax> adi: like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/57158/
[22:56] <demontager> yeah, and also xmms has problem with russian
[22:56] <meoblast001> LjL: well i get the same output
[22:56] <meoblast001> and the same stuff in the logs
[22:56] <BoomShaka> can some1 tell me how to hide the path in the console prompt? I am using terminator and the path I am in takes up too much of the window
[22:56] <chickenfuego2> goose, nslookup is just saying that 192.168.0.1 is making dns for you, and your server nodetwo.org is 64.62.141.89
[22:56] <adi> :) ok i got it
[22:56] <LjL> meoblast001: err have you tried running xsane first?
[22:56] <meoblast001> LjL: yes
[22:56] <adi> thanks ax-ax
[22:57] <demontager> thanks, i'll try audacious
[22:57] <Ax-Ax> adi: start up a new terminal and check if sudo asks for password
[22:57] <robelliott2125> xomp , give me a shout when your about...  Think i've solved the wifi bit
[22:57] <Ademan> demontager: oohh... russian... i don't know anything about audacious and other languages, but yeah, try it out, i hope it works for you
[22:57] <chickenfuego2> goose I can see nodetwo.org, btw.
[22:57] <adi> ok
[22:57] <LjL> meoblast001: the module "usblp" is no longer loading, so it can't still be complaining about "usblp". it might be complaining about some other module.
[22:58] <meoblast001> LJL: want the log
[22:58] <meoblast001> ?
[22:58] <demontager> ok.
[22:58] <adi> do u mean sudo -s
[22:58] <adi> ?
[22:58] <Ax-Ax> sudo anything
[22:58] <adi> ok
[22:58] <goose> chickenfuego2, my modem is connected to my main router, but the wireless from my main router doesn't reach upstairs in the house, so I have a 100 ft ethernet cable that's run from computer port 4 on the main router to the upstairs, and into the internet port of the second router, which broadcasts wireless to upstairs, if that means anything
[22:58] <amrik> this may seem a silly question but how well can macbooks run ubuntu? i like the macbook build style but not osx
[22:58] <meoblast001> LjL: http://pastebin.com/d2e03cf83
[22:58] <kaneda_> how do i make a section of the desktop uneditable?
[22:58] <Ademan> by the way demontager: if audacious doesn't work out, guis for xmms2 are:  gxmms2, esperanza, and abraca, good luck
[22:58] <linny> could someone look at this its an out put from dmesg im getting errors on startup some is written in red too i dont know what it is tho http://pastebin.com/m77bb8433
[22:59] <Lykkefeen> My GUI crashes everytime I try to use any Synopsis Package Manager - it says that there is no /var/cache/apt/archives/partial directory... I tried to create it but it says that there is no input/ output... sudo mkdir -m755 /var/cache/apt/archives/partial does not work, it just makes the computer crash...
[22:59] <demontager> gxmms2 is too simly
[22:59] <adi> i could not save the file with modifications
[22:59] <joelpet> what's the best (and easiest) program with a GUI for temperature monitoring of cpu, nb etc.?
[22:59] <meoblast001> LjL: so what does it look like?
[22:59] <linny> i know its alot start from like line 280
[22:59] <Ax-Ax> adi you should edit it as root (with sudo)
[22:59] <Don> a
[23:00] <adi> it says:You are trying to save the file on a read-only disk. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again.
[23:00] <Ademan> demontager: well there are 2 other ones there to try
[23:00] <Marco> I remember reading a while back about a linux home server distribution that used rails frontends for administration
[23:00] <Marco> does anyone knows what it's called?
[23:00] <LjL> meoblast001: it's not complaining any longer. if you look at the times, you'll see there's no complaints after the one you already posted earlier. but i suppose it's still giving the same error in xsane?
[23:00] <adi> ok
[23:00] <chickenfuego2> goose try the have a look at the config of your router(s), with web interface maybe? Type 192.168.0.1 in your browser. Do you have the pass?
[23:00] <demontager> ok thanks
[23:00] <elmental> to share an internet connection is it better to use dnsmasq or is there an easier way to do it? I read about firestarter, but apt-get cant find firestarter anywhere
[23:00] <meoblast001> LjL: i think saned needs permitions to the scanner
[23:00] <tj83> joelpet,  I like gkrellm... but ou do realize.. that the GUI app most likely only displays the info that other modules can obtain.. what kind of CPU do you have?
[23:00] <OOPrg> hey i got my new PC (this machine) its has 2 network cards , one is connected to my router using DHCP and the other is connected to my old PC with a Crossover cable; i used Wireshark to see the logs and if the computer talking between them , i see the old computer(192.168.1.111) ARPing for (192.168.1.1 - whice is the router) and this machine (192.168.1.71) ARPing who have the old computer(*.111) , what am i doing wrong and how can i make them t
[23:00] <meoblast001> LjL: but i dont know how to chown a scanner
[23:00] <LjL> meoblast001: it sure does
[23:01] <goose> chickenfuego2, yes, I do. I'm not sure what about my router configuration to change, though :/
[23:01] <LjL> meoblast001: well, hotplug (or whatever) should do that automatically, but...
[23:01] <chickenfuego2> goose is it normal that www.nodetwo.org has an irc server port openned?
[23:01] <tj83> joelpet, if you like i will paste a screenshot of mine. i have CPU temps and HDD temps
[23:01] <goose> chickenfuego2, yes, we run an IRC server
[23:01] <joelpet> tj83: that would be very kind of you!
[23:01] <LjL> meoblast001: do "lsusb" to find out where (bus and device) your scanner is
[23:01] <elmental> OOprg, are you trying to do an internet connection sharing?
[23:01] <tj83> joelpet, one moment
[23:01] <meoblast001> LjL: the site says to do this "chown root:saned /dev/sga && chmod g+rw /dev/sga"
[23:01] <OOPrg> no i want to transfer data.
[23:01] <joelpet> tj83: i've got an intel c2d cpu btw
[23:01] <meoblast001> LjL: but it doesnt work on mine
[23:01] <adi> still want make me save this file
[23:01] <LjL> meoblast001: is your scanner SCSI?
[23:02] <demontager> audacious is nice! Like Winamp!
[23:02] <bobertdos> Lykkefeen: Do you get similar errors if you try to use apt-get or aptitude in the terminal?
[23:02] <elmental> trying to do ICS here, but i guess same thing
[23:02] <elmental> i guess i'll just follow the insturctions for DNSMASQ
[23:02] <elmental> unhless theres something better
[23:02] <meoblast001> LjL: http://pastebin.com/d326d377b and its USB
[23:02] <adi> before it says SAVE AS
[23:03] <ibrahima> salut
[23:03] <Lykkefeen> bobertdos: I tried to use apt-get autoclean with no luck - now it just crashed again :S
[23:03] <adi> the options are save in folder etc?
[23:03] <adi> than I say yes
[23:03] <Frogging101> How do you install Ubuntu and keep windows  (Dual boot) without Wubi?
[23:03] <tj83> joelpet, http://imagebin.ca/view/FAWmj34.html yea.. not as many sensors for the c2d
[23:03] <adi> it says REPLACE?
[23:03] <Ax-Ax> yeah
[23:03] <adi> I say yes again
[23:03] <Ax-Ax> what folder
[23:03] <Lykkefeen> (crashed as in the window is clean but still there)
[23:03] <adi> and than wont save
[23:03] <OOPrg> Frogging101: use the partition manager (GPart if you have no free space)
[23:03] <joelpet> tj83: thanks!
[23:03] <LjL> meoblast001: /dev/sga won't do anything if it's usb
[23:04] <tj83> joelpet, if you like it.. i'll give you a hand /join #seaphor if not and you want to keep "shopping" cool.
[23:04] <LjL> meoblast001: ls -l /proc/bus/usb/001/004
[23:04] <beautifulsnow> !dualboot | Frogging101
[23:04] <adi> etc folder
[23:04] <elmental> im getting this:
[23:04] <elmental> Reading state information... Done
[23:04] <elmental> E: Couldn't find package dnsmasq
[23:04] <Frogging101> thank you
[23:04] <elmental> am i doing something wrong for it not to find dnsmasq?
[23:04] <chickenfuego2> goose I have two possibilities for you: 1) the versions of ssh do not match.. or 2) some firewall settings on your routers.
[23:05] <Ax-Ax> adi: ok close it and type "sudo gedit /etc/sudoers", paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/57158/ into it and save, start a new terminal and try "sudo -i"
[23:05] <meoblast001> LjL: h/o i got an idea.. then i'l try that
[23:05] <adi> I cant belive that im behaving as rootok
[23:05] <adi> ok
[23:05] <DaskreecH> is there a way to start the machine sans X ?
[23:05] <LjL> !info dnsmasq | elmental, yes, since it's in the repos
[23:05] <dimm> can i use repositories from hardy to dapper?
[23:05] <goose> chickenfuego2, thing is, through PUTTY/winSCP and WINE, I can connect on linux
[23:05] <LjL> elmental: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:05] <LjL> dimm: no
[23:05] <DaskreecH> dimm: What do you mena?
[23:05] <DaskreecH> is there a way to start the machine sans X ?
[23:05] <jrib> DaskreecH: forever?
[23:06] <DaskreecH> jrib: no one time
[23:06] <meoblast001> LjL: crw-rw-r--+ 1 root root 189, 3 2008-10-13 17:56 /dev/bus/usb/001/004
[23:06] <goose> chickenfuego2, I could SSH in fine under 7.10, but this is 8.04
[23:06] <DaskreecH> The x driver is freezing the machine
[23:06] <chickenfuego2> goose right... sorry
[23:06] <DaskreecH>  but single user mode gives me one terminal
[23:06] <KenBW2> dimm: i suppose so, but you cant guarantee compatibility
[23:06] <beautifulsnow> you could go in rescue mode   DaskreecH
[23:06] <jrib> DaskreecH: just use "recovery mode" from the grub menu
[23:06] <Frogging101> Will automatic partitioning erase any data?
[23:06] <xm4n> HEY
[23:06] <DaskreecH>  I want multiple terminals but have X not initialize since that kills the computer
[23:06] <meoblast001> LjL: i tried  sudo chown root:saned /dev/bus/usb/004 && chmod g+rw /dev/bus/usb/004
[23:06] <DaskreecH> jrib: I need multiple terminals
[23:06] <dimm> DaskreecH, i mean, that i want install weechat from repos, but i use dapper and version of weechat in dapper repos is very old
[23:06] <LjL> meoblast001: i think it should be "root scanner", so do this: sudo chmod g+rw /proc/bus/usb/004/00* ; chown root:scanner /proc/bus/usb/004/00*
[23:06] <elmental> oh, would using 8.10 beta be a problem?
[23:06] <jrib> DaskreecH: why would you want that only once.  Just fix the X problem and reboot
[23:07] <adi> still can't save
[23:07] <DaskreecH> jrib: I need multiple terminals to do that :)
[23:07] <xm4n> Take a look at our Ubuntu-like website: www.iycc.net
[23:07] <bobertdos> Lykkefeen: You might want to use clean as opposed to autoclean to purge the cache completely. Maybe it would be worth trying dpkg to reconfigure the APT front ends..............
[23:07] <LjL> elmental: yes, quite by definition, since it's unsupported and unstable - try #ubuntu+1
[23:07] <beautifulsnow> jrib,  perhaps for looking up info
[23:07] <xm4n> Take a look at our Ubuntu-like website: www.iycc.net
[23:07] <meoblast001> LjL: No such file or directory... should i be using that * or not?
[23:07] <chickenfuego2> goose it could sound weird, but you could try kdessh and click on all the options..
[23:07] <adi> this is ridiculous :) im behaving like god and it want do this SAVE :)
[23:07] <goose> chickenfuego2, eh?
[23:07] <adi> :):)
[23:08] <jrib> DaskreecH: man update-rc.d   should tell you how to stop gdm from starting.  Or use sysv-rc-conf
[23:08] <xm4n> Take a look at our Ubuntu-like website: www.iycc.net
[23:08] <DaskreecH> jrib: Thanks
[23:08] <meoblast001> LjL: chown: changing ownership of `/dev/bus/usb/004/001': Operation not permitted
[23:08] <beautifulsnow> someone ban that dood ;p
[23:08] <jrib> DaskreecH: this will be "forever", then you need to add it back
[23:08] <LjL> elmental: no, it isn't... rather, the /proc/ is probably a problem, make that /dev/ (although it used to be /proc/ for me, but that could have changed)
[23:08] <DaskreecH> jrib: That's fine
[23:08] <adi> it's just the first time my os plays with me :)
[23:08] <rebel_kid> i entered a custom command in open with for .py files, the command is "python" to open the python interpretor but it seems that the script runs in the background with no visible terminal, thats not a problem later down the road but for now i need the debug data, can i set it to open in terminal with a double click?
[23:08] <Ax-Ax> adi did it ask for password?
[23:08] <adi> nop
[23:08] <Ax-Ax> :)
[23:09] <Ax-Ax> i'm going to bed now
[23:09] <Ax-Ax> bye
[23:09] <Frogging101> ﻿ Will automatic partitioning erase any data?
[23:09] <chickenfuego2> goose, you have two graphical frontend for ssh: "sshmenu-gnome" or "kdessh" (sudo apt-get ...)
[23:09]  * DaskreecH would suggest that there be at least one run level that doesn't run X in a shipping ubuntu install though jrib 
[23:09] <beautifulsnow> yes Frogging101
[23:09] <Lykkefeen> bobertdos:  when I try sudo apt-get clean it says that the apt/archives: Read-only file system
[23:09] <OOPrg> ﻿﻿﻿﻿﻿hey i got my new PC (this machine) its has 2 network cards , one is connected to my router using DHCP and the other is connected to my old PC with a Crossover cable; i used Wireshark to see the logs and if the computer talking between them , i see the old computer(192.168.1.111) ARPing for (192.168.1.1 - whice is the router) and this machine (192.168.1.71) ARPing who have the old computer(*.111) , what am i doing wrong and how ca
[23:09] <jrib> DaskreecH: that's carried over from debian.  I don't know the rationale, though
[23:09] <adi> Could not save the file /etc/sudoers.
[23:10] <Frogging101> beautifulsnow: what about manual partitioning
[23:10] <Frogging101> ?
[23:10] <adi> You are trying to save the file on a read-only disk. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again
[23:10] <adi> :)
[23:10] <bobertdos> Lykkefeen: that's not good
[23:10] <meoblast001> =( im missing dinner
[23:10] <meoblast001> w/e i dont need it
[23:10] <DaskreecH> jrib: I realize but there is no need to cling to tradition for the sake of that
[23:10] <adi> am i the ONE for my os or not :)
[23:10] <beautifulsnow> Frogging101,  if you choose manual partitioning, it will only erase your data if YOU check "format" option
[23:10] <DaskreecH> Ok gotta go to read up on man update
[23:10] <adi> im kidding
[23:10] <Lykkefeen> bobertdos: no sorry, it says that it cannot open lock file /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (2 No such file or directory)
[23:11] <meoblast001> is LjL still here?
[23:11] <Frogging101> okay thank you
[23:11] <LjL> meoblast001: you need to do that with sudo.
[23:11] <Lykkefeen> bobertdos: and furthermore, E: unable to lock the download directory
[23:11] <meoblast001> LjL: i did
[23:11] <LjL> Lykkefeen: err, is it read-only or not, anyway?
[23:12] <chickenfuego2> DaskreecH, try "apt-get install rccon"
[23:12] <chickenfuego2> DaskreecH, try "apt-get install rcconf"
[23:12] <adi> Ax-Ax | what next :9
[23:12] <adi> :)
[23:12] <LjL> meoblast001: nope, you didn't
[23:12] <Lykkefeen> LjL: Could you please give me a command to check that using xterm? chmod?
[23:12] <meoblast001> LjL: want proof?
[23:12] <LjL> meoblast001: sudo chmod g+rw /dev/bus/usb/004/00* ; sudo chown root:scanner /dev/bus/usb/004/00*
[23:12] <LjL> Lykkefeen: type "mount" and pastebin output
[23:12] <chaddy> LjL: to check ls -lah should do it
[23:12] <figo> hello
[23:12] <meoblast001> those worked
[23:12] <chaddy> hi figo
[23:13] <figo> hi chaddy
[23:13] <elmental> LjL, so make the /proc/ to /dev/ ?
[23:13] <figo> can i have some help
[23:13] <figo> plz
[23:13] <beautifulsnow> !ask | Sure you can :)
[23:13] <LjL> meoblast001: and add a sudo before chown, yes.
[23:13] <chaddy> figo: just think your question through and ask it
[23:13] <LjL> chaddy: wait, to check what?
[23:13] <figo> ok
[23:13] <meoblast001> LjL: no luck... im even running saned as root also
[23:13] <chaddy> sorry, LjL nm
[23:13] <chaddy> permissions
[23:13] <Lykkefeen> LjL: how do I paste anything from xterm?
[23:14] <LjL> uuh i'm confusing people, moment
[23:14] <Geforce88> beautifulsnow, i receive an eror after upgrade the drive isn't beign mounted due to an uuid error. possible causes/fix is to increase the rootdelay. i wanted to try that fix first. this is a working drive.
[23:14] <LjL> Lykkefeen: select with the mouse, then use middle click to paste
[23:14] <Geforce88> oopps, should have checked that before i hit enter
[23:14] <bobertdos> Lykkefeen: Shift-Ctrl_C and Shift-Ctrl-V
[23:14] <figo> ubuntu 8.04 envy-ng 8.6 wifi atheros 5007 everything is fine, but heres is the problem randomly, the computer tends to slow down
[23:14] <chaddy> Geforce88: seems like it might be better to fix the uuid error
[23:14] <figo> y explain myself
[23:15] <LjL> elmental: no, the /proc and /dev thing was for meoblast001, i messed up. *you* should go to #ubuntu+1, because that's the only place where you can get Intrepid help (since it's unsupported, unstable etc)
[23:15] <figo> the slow down makes the console crash
[23:15] <Lykkefeen> LjL: Here you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/57163/
[23:15] <Geforce88> chaddy, the computer reboots when i go in to recovery mode on an earlier ibex kernal
[23:15] <beautifulsnow> ^^; I don't know much about grub. All I know about grub is the grub boot list file :3
[23:15] <figo> and y must reboot once in while to fix it
[23:15] <ice799> Hi is there a script that would allow me to quicly and easily create .deb packages? All the guides I've read have lots of steps and the process seems somewhat painful - are there any command line tools that shorten the process?
[23:15] <figo> what colud it be?
[23:15] <chaddy> Geforce88: is it just that your /etc/fstab is out of date?
[23:15] <LjL> !ibex | Geforce88
[23:15] <chaddy> Geforce88: you might get better help in #ubuntu+1 if you're on ibex
[23:16] <Geforce88> chaddy, no one is around to help
[23:16] <jrib> ice799: not if you want to make a proper package.  There's checkinstall, but it will not make a proper package
[23:16] <jrib> !checkinstall > ice799
[23:16] <LjL> Lykkefeen: uhm, seems read/write to me... what gave you that "read-only" error?
[23:16] <halycon> Does anyone know how to test if all the bluetooth stuff is installed and working in ubuntu?
[23:16] <meoblast001> LjL: i think im going to go eat dinner.. i'll bbl
[23:17] <Lykkefeen> LjL: sudo apt-get clean gives me the following error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/57164/
[23:17] <chaddy> Geforce88: I'd ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/ -ah and check you have the right uuid in /etc/fstab, but that's just an instinct of where to start
[23:17] <LjL> Lykkefeen: ok, but earlier you mentioned a "read-only filesystem" error too
[23:17] <figo> my computer slows down till the point that aplications start crashing, what could be problem?
[23:18] <chickenfuego2> halycon, a nice blue icon on the bar, otherwise, try "sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth start"
[23:18] <DaskreecH> jrib: ping
[23:18] <chaddy> figo: do you have swap?
[23:18] <bobertdos> LjL: Yeah, he told me to disregard that :p
[23:18] <Raylz> with which command do i launch the software sources?
[23:18] <jrib> DaskreecH: eh?
[23:18] <DaskreecH> clarification of the manual
[23:18] <jrib> Raylz: software-properties-gtk
[23:18] <Raylz> jrib: ty
[23:18] <LjL> bobertdos: well, it's a pretty worrying error if it happens though, so i'd like to know where he got it from...
[23:18] <figo> i suppose how can y check that
[23:18] <DaskreecH> jrib: I have to remove all references to gdm before update-rc.d will work?
[23:18] <chaddy> figo: top will tell you
[23:18] <figo> k
[23:18] <alphamale1> whats the defference between exe3 and 2?
[23:19] <Lykkefeen> LjL: That was when I manually tried to create the missing directories in my var/apt/ directory that synapsis says are missing each time I try to update ubuntu...
[23:19] <bobertdos> LjL: I know......
[23:19] <chaddy> figo: it will list how much ram and swap you have and are using
[23:19] <LjL> alphamale1: ext3 is a journalling filesystem, ext2 isn't
[23:19] <figo> k
[23:19] <alphamale1> LjL what would be better for a low end server?
[23:19] <chaddy> figo: might be that you've filled the ram and applications are getting killed because you're out of space
[23:19] <LjL> Lykkefeen: that's a terrible idea, anyway, that error is very worrying if it ever happens on your root filesystem. are you sure your hard drive is not physically damaged?
[23:20] <jin> I love Ubuntu :-)
[23:20] <figo> ok i have swap what should i look for here?
[23:20] <beautifulsnow> Me too!
[23:20] <LjL> Lykkefeen: can you install "smartmontools" and check "smartctl -H" and "smartctl -A" for that drive?
[23:20] <Lykkefeen> LjL: how do I install stuff when apt-get is not working? :(
[23:20] <chaddy> figo: does this problem happen consistently every time you use the computer?
[23:20] <LjL> Lykkefeen: you're right too
[23:21] <jrib> DaskreecH: just use sysv-rc-conf
[23:21] <Frogging101> I resized my Windows partition, what now?
[23:21] <DaskreecH> jrib: I'm trying to make gdm not start up in runlevel 3 and it tells me that links already exist. I removed the links in rc3.d aand it still gives me the same error
[23:21] <LjL> Lykkefeen: i'll give you the link to a smartmontools package, see if you can install it with dpkg
[23:21] <Frogging101> Do I create a new one in the free space?
[23:21] <DaskreecH> jrib: So I just wanted to clarify that update-rc.d requires you to remove all links to gdm from all rc.* directores?
[23:21] <LjL> Lykkefeen: http://archive.ubuntu.cz/ubuntu/pool/main/s/smartmontools/smartmontools_5.37-6ubuntu1_i386.deb
[23:22] <figo> no its kinda random thing
[23:22] <kitche> DaskreecH: well you don't remove the links really you use update-rc.d gdm stop and it will do everything for you
[23:22] <DaskreecH> kitche: Yeah You'd think
[23:22] <PoisonArrow> Ok, what would be a reason that I am able to connect to irc but not able to surf the web?
[23:22] <Lykkefeen> LjL this is what happends when I try to sudo apt-get update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/57167/
[23:22] <DaskreecH> It's telling me that it already exists
[23:22] <ransom> poisonarrow: firewall?
[23:22] <beautifulsnow> figo you think it might be one particular program that causes the computer to slow down a lot? maybe it's just one program being buggy.
[23:22] <bobertdos> Frogging101: a new partition in the free space, yes
[23:22] <Frogging101> primary or logical?
[23:23] <PoisonArrow> ransom: Im not sure? How could I check?
[23:23] <Lykkefeen> LjL: /tmp/2yf+pg4e.deb.part could not be saved, because an unknown error occurred.
[23:23] <LjL> Lykkefeen: right, your APT is quite completely messed up, will possibly require a reinstall for good measure
[23:23] <LjL> Lykkefeen: boot from a live cd
[23:23] <figo> it might be firefox 3 i work just with a few consoles and the web browser
[23:23] <LjL> Lykkefeen: i do think your HD is likely faulty
[23:23] <DaskreecH> and the manual says that if links already exist update will not do anything if the service seems to be installed
[23:23] <DaskreecH> kitche: ^^^
[23:23] <Frogging101> bobertdos: Primary or logical?
[23:23] <LjL> Lykkefeen: or, your RAM could be, so if you want, run a memtest before rebooting from the live cd
[23:23] <ransom> poisonarrow: try pinging a server like www.google.com and see what comes back
[23:23] <PoisonArrow> ransom: I am able to ping google
[23:23] <bobertdos> Frogging101:  usually primary
[23:24] <PoisonArrow> ransom: maybe something with port 80?
[23:24] <figo> compiz-fusion cube thing
[23:24] <jrib> DaskreecH: if update-rc.d is confusing, just use sysv-rc-conf
[23:24] <Frogging101> bobertdos: and what do i put for use as and mount point?
[23:24] <ransom> poisonarrow: tht is what it sounds like
[23:24] <DaskreecH> jrib: can that remove for a single run level?
[23:24] <jrib> DaskreecH: yes
[23:24] <beautifulsnow> hey figo do you have a lot of FF3 extentions installed?
[23:24] <PoisonArrow> ransom: I just downloaded firestarter, Ima see what I can do with that
[23:24] <DaskreecH> I figure if I'm going to fix this I might as well do it properly
[23:24] <Lykkefeen> LjL: ok, so run a memtest (any particular settings?) if that's ok then smartmontools?
[23:24] <heret|c> adblock = the only ff extension worth having
[23:24] <DaskreecH> jrib: thanks
[23:24] <bobertdos> Frogging101: Well, unless you plan to have a separate home partition or something, just /
[23:25] <beautifulsnow> a seperate partition would be nice now, woudlnt it
[23:25] <figo> 3 or 4 skins the gmail plugin and thats it
[23:25] <figo> could be emerald or the ati drivers?
[23:25] <Frogging101> bobertdos: I am installing ubuntu for dual boot with windows xp
[23:25] <dli> beautifulsnow, no, I like just one big partition
[23:25] <figo> something related to 3d graphics?
[23:26] <DaskreecH> jrib: one more question :)
[23:26] <LjL> Lykkefeen: yes. no particular settings, just use the "memtest" option that you can select from either the Live CD or your GRUB menu
[23:26] <bobertdos> Frogging101: Yeah, so unless you plan to make other partitions, just use /
[23:26] <DaskreecH> is Ubuntu still Sysv?
[23:26] <jrib> !upstart | DaskreecH
[23:26] <Lykkefeen> LjL: ok brb
[23:26] <DaskreecH> I thought that it had moved on to a new startup sequence
[23:26] <DaskreecH> RIght upstart
[23:26] <Frogging101> bobertdos: what do i put for use as?
[23:26] <PoisonArrow> ransom: I don't know? Still not working
[23:26] <DaskreecH> Hmm
[23:26] <DaskreecH> Need to logout to read that website
[23:26] <vladovg> hii
[23:26] <HaSH> is there a way to keep a package from being updated?
[23:26] <figo> is there a utility i could install to monitor cpu stress and find out what it is?
[23:26] <jrib> DaskreecH: read it after you fix X?
[23:26] <beautifulsnow> figo, im sorry, but it could be ANYTHING   hehehe! Have you considered stripping down ubuntu (take off compiz effects, use Epiphany instead of FF just to test) and see if it makes any diference? And then, try adding them back one at the time to see what starts giving you the problem
[23:27] <DaskreecH> jrib: Well I can't fix X till I read it
[23:27] <jrib> figo: system -> administration -> system monitor
[23:27] <HaSH> figo, there is unixbench...but i dont know if its in repos
[23:27] <bobertdos> Frogging101: The filesystem should be ext3 and the mounpoint should be /
[23:27] <DaskreecH> I guess I could
[23:27] <beautifulsnow> figo if you run  gnome terminal, and type       top          it will tell you which apps are causing stress
[23:27] <DaskreecH> sysv-rc-conf will work with upstart?
[23:27] <jrib> DaskreecH: why would I tell you to use it if it didn't? :)
[23:27] <Frogging101> bobertdos: beginning or end?
[23:27] <DaskreecH> as I recall upstart is backwards compatible?
[23:27] <HaSH> figo, well unixbench is more for benchmarking..not monitoring.
[23:27] <DaskreecH> jrib: Lapse of memory :)
[23:27] <bobertdos> Frogging101: typically beginning
[23:28] <DaskreecH> LInux moves fast it's hard to keep track sometimes
[23:28] <DaskreecH> ok
[23:28] <jrib> DaskreecH: upstart is just using the sysv scripts still
[23:28] <DaskreecH> let me go install it
[23:28] <Frogging101> bobertdos: okay, is that all i need for a dual boot?
[23:28] <Frogging101> two partitions?
[23:28] <thiebaude> HaSH:when update manager starts with an update, you can click on the left of it to prevent it from being upgraded
[23:28] <DaskreecH> jrib: For Jackalope we'll move away from sysv scripts?
[23:28] <skorasaurus> hi, i have a USB drive and I'm unable to edit the files on it.
[23:28] <figo> well il play around thanks everyone for helping out
[23:28] <DigitalFiz> where can i get ubuntu startup screens?
[23:28] <jrib> DaskreecH: don't know
[23:28] <DaskreecH> That's part of the get Ubuntu to boot fast movement?
[23:28] <figo> :)
[23:28] <aguitel> how to create pdf document ?
[23:28] <DaskreecH> aguitel: Print
[23:29] <Geforce88> skorasaurus change permissions to your user name
[23:29] <bobertdos> Frogging101: Well, basically, yeah. The installer has detected your XP partition right? If so, Grub should set up automatically and everything should be good to go.
[23:29] <HaSH> thiebaude, hmm was hoping there would be another way..i dont really use guis for package managment
[23:29] <skorasaurus> I tried using chown in the terminal, but a message is returned that says 'read-only file system'
[23:29] <DaskreecH> aguitel: Print to a file and it has a PDF option
[23:29] <jrib> skorasaurus: provide more details
[23:29] <Frogging101> bobertdos: thanks
[23:29] <DaskreecH> jrib: onward!!!
[23:29] <skorasaurus> sudo chown -R myusername *
[23:29] <meoblast001> LjL: back
[23:29] <jrib> skorasaurus: what are you chowning exactly?
[23:29] <skorasaurus> i used that command in the directory of the USB key
[23:29] <thiebaude> HaSH:ok
[23:30] <jrib> skorasaurus: pastebin 'mount'
[23:30] <skorasaurus> all of the files on the usb key (which is being automatically detected and mounted)
[23:30] <thiebaude> hmm
[23:30] <skorasaurus> k
[23:30] <boselecta> i'm having a terrible time trying to use a webcam on hardy.
[23:31] <skorasaurus> http://pastebin.ca/1226313  (the usb drive is named GOCOWS)
[23:31] <beautifulsnow> !webcam
[23:31] <boselecta> thanks
[23:32] <meoblast001> LjL: any idea on how to fix it?
[23:32] <niccholaspage> Hey
[23:32] <aguitel> h
[23:34] <thiebaude> brb, 48 more updates for 8.10
[23:34] <alex80> help
[23:34] <Shamel> past!
[23:34] <janez> hi all
[23:34] <meoblast001> LjL?
[23:34] <thiebaude> hi janez
[23:35] <bobertdos> skorasaurus: Try this instead: sudo chown -R $USERNAME:$USERNAME . in that folder.
[23:35] <PoisonArrow> ransom: I think I remember what the problem was, I got it to work but it wasnt from rebuilding the drivers. For me to get wireless I have to laod my drivers manually everytime(thought I got a script for that now) but before it seemed like the network manager would always override it, so I used network manager and it works now
[23:35] <Flare183> !hi | janez
[23:35] <thiebaude> !hi
[23:35] <PoisonArrow> ransom: though I think I deleted network manager
[23:35] <PoisonArrow> ransom: before
[23:35] <Shamel> could somone help me with this
[23:35] <Shamel> ﻿hi Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 8.04 _Hardy Heron_ - Release i386 (20080408)]/dists/Hardy/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[23:36] <ransom> poisonarrow: well i'm glad you made some progress!
[23:36] <PoisonArrow> ransom: thanks :P for the help
[23:36] <skorasaurus> bobertdos: the terminal returned that it was missing an operand.
[23:36] <ransom> poisonarrow: np
[23:36] <janez> I recently purchased a dell studio 1535 from a store (staples) and immediately went to install 8.04 on it. I would have ordered it directly through dell since they now ship the laptop with ubuntu, but the wait time is backed up for weeks. Long story short; When I try boot the live cd it have me vertical color lines
[23:36] <alex80> hello everybody
[23:36] <goose> chickenfuego2, it was the way my internet was set up
[23:36] <LjL> meoblast001: we were at "sudo chmod g+rw /dev/bus/usb/004/00* ; sudo chown root:scanner /dev/bus/usb/004/00*", right?
[23:36] <janez> here is the pick, http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0145tb7.jpg
[23:36] <bobertdos> skorasaurus:Did you include the .
[23:36] <meoblast001> LjL: yup
[23:37] <meoblast001> still wont work
[23:37] <goose> chickenfuego2, when I hard wired in to the main router, SSH worked fine
[23:37] <skorasaurus> bobertdos: i did not :p
[23:37] <chickenfuego2> goose ooo?
[23:37] <LjL> meoblast001: can you try "scanimage -L" on the client?
[23:37] <meoblast001> LjL: i think Bill Gates is laughing at me right now
[23:37] <meoblast001> LjL:  client?
[23:37] <alex80> i would like to ask help about the configuration of tor
[23:37] <chickenfuego2> goose so the second router was firewalling something?
[23:37] <LjL> meoblast001: on the client machine, didn't you say you're using xsane on a client with saned being on the server?
[23:37] <chickenfuego2> but if windows was working?
[23:38] <meoblast001> LjL: ok just making sure =P... i got this.. device `net:192.168.1.100:brother2:bus5;dev1' is a Brother MFC-5440CN USB scanner
[23:38] <beautifulsnow> Does anyone know why ubuntuforums uses coffee beans on user info?
[23:38] <skorasaurus> bobertdos: i did that, still returned:
[23:38] <skorasaurus> chown: changing ownership of `./myhouse.doc Read-only file system
[23:38] <meoblast001> beautifulsnow: because they like coffee
[23:38] <shiloh7> g evening fellas
[23:38] <LjL> meoblast001: so it's recognizing it, now try "scanimage >test.pnm"
[23:38] <thiebaude> !xulrunner
[23:38] <goose> chickenfuego2, linux didn't know to proxy through both routers, it saw my extension router as my actual ISP router
[23:39] <skorasaurus> is the usb key corrupted ?
[23:39] <meoblast001> LjL: running
[23:39] <goose> my other problem: When I try to "Places > Connect to Server", Windows Share, I get "Can't display location "smb://192.168.0.102" No application is registered as handling this file"
[23:39] <LjL> meoblast001: is the scanner scanning?
[23:39] <meoblast001> yup
[23:39] <bobertdos> skorasaurus: and you're using sudo?
[23:39] <LjL> meoblast001: ok then the problem is just in xsane. close it, wait for scanimage to finish, then start it again
[23:39] <skorasaurus> bobertdos: yes, i did use sudo
[23:39] <janez> I recently purchased a dell studio 1535 from a store (staples) and immediately went to install 8.04 on it. I would have ordered it directly through dell since they now ship the laptop with ubuntu, but the wait time is backed up for weeks. Long story short; When I try boot the live cd it have me vertical color lines, here is the pick, http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0145tb7.jpg
[23:39] <jrib> skorasaurus: why do you want to chown?
[23:39] <LjL> meoblast001: (for the record - if you were on Windows, i doubt you could use a scanner remotely to begin with)
[23:40] <skorasaurus> jrib: the files are read-only.
[23:40] <skorasaurus> it's a USB key.
[23:40] <skorasaurus> usb drive, i mean
[23:40] <meoblast001> LjL: ok lol... so what do i do with Xsane?
[23:40] <jrib> skorasaurus: check dmesg for interesting output
[23:40] <skorasaurus> http://pastebin.ca/1226313
[23:40] <LjL> meoblast001: for now just close it, and start it again after scanimage finishes, and see if it works by any chance - just as a test
[23:40] <goose> janez, what type of processor?
[23:40] <janez> goose, intel core 2 duo
[23:41] <jrib> skorasaurus: also, what is the current ownership and rights?
[23:41] <meoblast001> LjL: nope
[23:41] <meoblast001> Invalid arguements
[23:41] <bobertdos> jrib: I think the drive is root owned, we've been running into that a lot lately.
[23:41] <goose> janez, x86? did you download the 32 bit OS?
[23:41] <janez> goose, and I have a i965GM video chipset
[23:41] <goose> that happened to me when I tried to install the 64 bit on my 32
[23:41] <skorasaurus> here are the results of my dmesg: http://pastebin.ca/1226322
[23:41] <janez> goose, amd64
[23:41] <goose> janez, wrong distro
[23:42] <goose> janez, you need to download the 32 bit
[23:42] <bobertdos> skorasaurus: Pastebin  ls -l on the directory please.
[23:42] <jrib> !who | skorasaurus
[23:42] <LjL> meoblast001: so it might be trying to use some feature that the scanner doesn't support, perhaps. does it give that error immediately when you start it, or just when you try to scan? if the latter, then try changing parameters (resolution, etc)
[23:42] <jrib> skorasaurus: did you see anything interesting in dmesg?
[23:42] <meoblast001> LjL: when i push scan
[23:43] <meoblast001> well.... click it
[23:43] <Plz> How on earth do I upgrade from 2.4.1 to 3.0? I have downloaded OOo_3.0.0_LinuxIntel_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz, but what do I do with it?
[23:43] <LjL> meoblast001: then try using other parameters. 300dpi, 24bit color sounds like a reasonable start.
[23:43] <skorasaurus> jrib and bobertdos: i posted my pastebin -  http://pastebin.ca/1226322
[23:43] <Plz> Please help me someone.
[23:43] <PoisonArrow> Can anyone tell me if Network Manager somehow overrides parameters manually submitted with the iwconfig command?
[23:43] <skorasaurus> jrib: i mean dmsg
[23:43] <skorasaurus> ls -l is coming up
[23:43] <LjL> Plz: why are you attempting to upgrade a program using random stuff downloaded from the internet? you certainly know you're supposed to use the official repositories, especially for important stuff as openoffice
[23:43] <jrib> skorasaurus: I know.  I'm asking you if you see anything interesting relating to your sdb1 there?
[23:44] <Plz> LjL: I downloaded it from http://download.openoffice.org/
[23:44] <goose> my other problem: When I try to "Places > Connect to Server", Windows Share, I get "Can't display location "smb://192.168.0.102" No application is registered as handling this file"
[23:44] <janez> goose, I gonna try with 32bits
[23:44] <LjL> Plz: well, that's a bad idea.
[23:44] <DaskreecH> jrib: Slight problem :)
[23:44] <skorasaurus> jrib: there's #
[23:44] <skorasaurus> FAT: Filesystem panic (dev sdb1)
[23:44] <skorasaurus> #
[23:44] <skorasaurus> [  158.119490]     fat_get_cluster: invalid cluster chain (i_pos 12907)
[23:44] <skorasaurus> #
[23:44] <FloodBot3> skorasaurus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:44] <skorasaurus> [  158.119494]     File system has been set read-only
[23:44] <meoblast001> LjL: nothing
[23:44] <Plz> LjL: What do you suggest I should do then?
[23:44] <janez> goose, you have a intel video?
[23:44] <skorasaurus> ack, sorry.
[23:44] <jrib> skorasaurus: yeah, my guess is that that's related to your issues
[23:44] <DaskreecH> upstart doesn't support choosing a run level from the grub command line
[23:44] <goose> janez, no, NVIDIA, but trust me, that'll fix it
[23:44] <DaskreecH> and there is no inittab file
[23:45] <skorasaurus> jrib: http://pastebin.ca/1226327
[23:45] <skorasaurus> i think that's the problem, but i dont know how to solve it.
[23:45] <jrib> DaskreecH: so just make runlevel 2 not run X.  This is temporary anyway
[23:45] <janez> goose, i dont think so, but i gonna try...
[23:45] <LjL> Plz: i suggest you just wait for the next version of Ubuntu, which might possibly have openoffice 3.0 included.
[23:45] <DaskreecH> Grrrr :)
[23:45] <janez> goose, with vesa drivers works fine
[23:45] <jrib> skorasaurus: next step is to google the error
[23:45] <Plz> LjL: well, I don`t want to wait that long...
[23:45] <Plz> LjL: OOo 3.0 is to good to wait 16 days..
[23:46] <LjL> Plz: then type "tar xf OOo_3.0.0_LinuxIntel_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz ; sudo dpkg -i OOo_3.0.0_LinuxIntel_install_en-US_deb", but do that at your own risk.
[23:46] <LjL> if breakage occurs, we won't be able to help you.
[23:46] <meoblast001> LjL: should i update the drivers on my client?
[23:46] <aguitel> how create and modify pdf document ?
[23:46] <bobertdos> Plz: Obviously, we won't be able to convince you, so the next best advice is to use the deb, not a tar.gz
[23:46] <LjL> meoblast001: i think the drivers themselves are fine, since scanimage works
[23:46] <meoblast001> LjL: problem solved
[23:47] <adi> hi all
[23:47] <Plz> LjL: If it goes to **** I just reinstall.
[23:47] <LjL> aguitel: openoffice lets you save anything as PDF. as for "editing", that's nontrivial, PDF wasn't thought as an editing format
[23:47] <LjL> meoblast001: hm?
[23:47] <meoblast001> LjL: i mean.. problem found
[23:47] <Plz> bobertdos: There is no .deb files at http://download.openoffice.org/
[23:47] <meoblast001> LjL: http://pastebin.com/d22ab910d
[23:47] <thomc> is it necessary to mount nfs shares synchronously?
[23:47] <adi> how to create a file in file system as root
[23:47] <adi> ?
[23:47] <LjL> Plz: yes, there is a .deb file. it's just (for some reason) gzipped
[23:47] <adi> from terminal
[23:48] <LjL> adi: why would you?
[23:48] <meoblast001> LjL: nvm.. i just broke saned lol
[23:48] <unop> adi,  sudo $EDITOR filename
[23:48] <Plz> Well, I did download the Linux deb...
[23:48] <adi> i just daleted my sudoers file
[23:48] <adi> :(
[23:48] <adi> from /etc
[23:48] <meoblast001> LjL: O_o. and my scanner.... the light is stuck sitting half way through the scanner
[23:48] <Plz> When I open it I see toans of .deb files.
[23:48] <LjL> meoblast001, you stopped scanimage while it was still running, that may easily cause trouble such as you just had
[23:48] <unop> adi, errm, how did you manage that?
[23:48] <LjL> meoblast001: turn it off.
[23:48] <unop> adi, and you won't be able to use sudo anyway without a valid sudoers
[23:48] <jrib> skorasaurus: I see some posts recommending a fsck.vfat
[23:49] <SirHaXalot> I have a ubuntu security related question , how come you can get root access to any ubuntu machine just with a ubuntu cd? i forgot my password on one of my machines, and i just tried to run ubuntu live and mount sda1, and just added a new user.? why isnt installed file structure secured after been installed. just wondering :)
[23:49] <meoblast001> LjL: it wont respond
[23:49] <adi> yep
[23:49] <ransom> Plz: you should look at this forum post.  according to it, the oo.org 3.0 .deb should work, althoug i haven't tried it myself http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=946439&highlight=openoffice
[23:49] <adi> that my problem
[23:49] <LjL> Plz: then run "dpkg -i *.deb" for all of them (make sure you don't have other, unrelated .deb files in the same directory first)
[23:49] <skorasaurus> jrib and bobertdos: that's what im reading - to do a fsck.vfat
[23:49]  * skorasaurus is trying to figure out how to do that.
[23:49] <LjL> meoblast001: pull the plug
[23:49] <DaskreecH> jrib: thanks.
[23:49] <adi> how to place it again in it's place
[23:49] <jrib> DaskreecH: no problem
[23:49] <kitche> SirHaXalot: umm with physical access it doesn't matter if the file system is secured or not
[23:49] <DaskreecH> jrib: There is a script on the Upstart wiki to make it respect runlevels from the command grub prompt
[23:50] <BlueEagle> skorasaurus: fsck will run fsck.vfat if the provided partition is formatted with the vfat filesystem.
[23:50] <meoblast001> LjL: oh dang it.. it made funny noises.. it reset too far and the motor bumped the edge i think
[23:50] <BlueEagle> skorasaurus: You can force the filesystem type by passing -t vfat to fsck iirc
[23:50] <jrib> DaskreecH: you already have it in /etc/event.d/rc-default
[23:50] <meoblast001> LjL: its good now
[23:50] <LjL> meoblast001: i suspected that would happen, but there wasn't really a way to avoid it
[23:50] <unop> adi, you'll need to boot the machine up in the recovery mode, that will give you a root shell.  using that use  visudo  to add this line in.   user ALL=(ALL) ALL
[23:50] <skorasaurus> BlueEagle: thanks.
[23:50] <DaskreecH> jrib: No that just looks for single if you put in a number it ignores it and boots default
[23:50] <jrib> DaskreecH: ah, no you don't, never mind
[23:50] <unop> adi, where  'user' is your primary user's username.
[23:50] <bobertdos> Plz: Yes, without the repos, the next best thing is to let dpkg handle deb files.
[23:50]  * skorasaurus is backing up his usb drive right now
[23:50] <LjL> meoblast001: hopefully, that hasn't damaged the motor. don't stop it when it's in progress in the future
[23:51] <adi> I have a copy of this file in my home dit
[23:51] <DaskreecH> jrib: And this is a Ibex install so
[23:51] <adi> di
[23:51] <adi> dir
[23:51] <meoblast001> LjL: i told it to do the PNG one and it wont do anything... the terminal is sitting there mid process
[23:51] <LjL> adi: why have you *deleted* your sudoers file?!
[23:51] <SirHaXalot> kitche, well, if computer get stolen, it should atleast given an option for encryption under the innstallation, maybe this future is in 8.10?
[23:51] <unop> adi, you could copy the contents of this file into visudo then
[23:51] <LjL> meoblast001: (it doesn't really matter, but the extension is ".pnm", not ".png")
[23:51] <adi> i wanted to change the way
[23:52] <adi> the sys ask me for pass all time
[23:52] <kitche> SirHaXalot: encryption won't matter really if your computer is stolen, since they will just wipe the drive and be done
[23:52] <meoblast001> LjL: png is a file extention for images
[23:52] <jrib> DaskreecH: should respect a /etc/inittab though
[23:52] <janez> goose, nah
[23:52] <janez> goose, same problem
[23:52] <LjL> meoblast001: err... i know that. but the image format that scanimage uses is PNM, not PNG.
[23:52] <unop> adi, so you thought deleting the sudoers file would get rid of the password prompts??
[23:52] <meoblast001> im testing that because that's what Xsane is trying to make
[23:52] <adi> I tried to mod the section where it says # User privilege specification
[23:52] <adi> adi	ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
[23:52] <LjL> meoblast001: please, don't try to second guess me. if i say to save it as a PNM, there's probably a reason.
[23:52] <alexander_27__> -laden.de
[23:52] <BlueEagle> adi: You are aware of the security implications of not requireing passwords for root privileges, aren't you?
[23:53] <adi> no no wait
[23:53] <meoblast001> LjL: ok
[23:53] <meoblast001> LjL: so what next
[23:53] <LjL> meoblast001: typing "man scanimage" will confirm that it outputs as PNM by default
[23:53] <Frogging101> If, in the ubuntu installer, I check 'format' in the new partition that IS NOT WINDOWS, will it erase anything?
[23:53] <LjL> adi: why haven't you used visudo to modify it?
[23:53] <meoblast001> LjL: do we look for xsane logs?
[23:53] <SirHaXalot> kitche, yeah, but should eyes be on security anyways, it can get stolen for information gathering also, im just thinking of coperate firms and security implementation, just as an option encryption as a choice under install
[23:53] <LjL> meoblast001: first try to make scanimage work again...
[23:53] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[23:53] <Tetracomm> I now have sound.
[23:53] <adi> never used visudo
[23:53] <LjL> meoblast001: try restarting saned, sudo invoke-rc.d saned restart
[23:54] <LjL> adi: well, that's a bad thing. you should *always* use it when editing sudoers.
[23:54] <unop> BlueEagle, it's not so bad as long as your account is protected
[23:54] <Tetracomm> But the volume control thing doesn't work, it just shows me an empty window.
[23:54] <m4r3z> Question : Installed ubuntu on my ps3, 1 of the version thats supposed to work with ps3... installed now, but I cant create folders anywhere else than my desktop.. where did I go wrong ?
[23:54] <adi> first time dealing with sudoers
[23:54] <meoblast001> LjL: ok i restarted the server lol... but yeah its working..... Ctrl+C TIME!.. j/k i wouldnt do that
[23:54] <adi> so now...
[23:54] <LjL> adi: alright, well, you know that for next time. so now you can't use sudo at all?
[23:54] <Tetracomm> Help?
[23:54] <Frogging101> m4r3z: How do you install ubuntu on a ps3?
[23:54] <meoblast001> LjL: all works
[23:55] <DaskreecH> Frogging101: #ubuntu-ps3
[23:55] <Mooloo> hi, i just booted an ubuntu desktop image from cd, how do i make this permanent? i thought it would be an installer, heh
[23:55] <LjL> meoblast001: well, not xsane i guess?
[23:55] <DaskreecH> #ps3linux
[23:55] <adi> but i think I should replace the file ..
[23:55] <m4r3z> Frogging101 almost like a pc i suppose ;)
[23:55] <chaddy> m4r3z: that's not officially supported any mores, have you looked at yellow dog linux 6?
[23:55] <adi> no?
[23:55] <droopsta915> can someone help me set up my wireless laptop?
[23:55] <Stupendoussteve> Mooloo, there should be an icon on the desktop to install
[23:55] <BlueEagle> !anyone | droopsta915
[23:55] <unop> adi, did you not read what i had to say so far?
[23:55] <adi> so from tty2 what should I do?
[23:55] <kapipi> Mooloo there should be an icon on your desktop saying "Install ubuntu"
[23:55] <DaskreecH> m4r3z: #ubutnu-ps3 #ps3linux
[23:55] <LjL> meoblast001: i don't really know what the deal is with xsane, but could you consider using a different front-end? "quiteinsane" for instance
[23:55] <DaskreecH> bah
[23:55] <DaskreecH> #ubuntu-ps3
[23:55] <Frogging101> ﻿ If, in the ubuntu installer, I check 'format' in the new partition that IS NOT WINDOWS, will it erase anything?
[23:55] <m4r3z> chaddy, yeah, had problems with permissions there aswell, im quite new with linux, but a friend of mine sat for acouple of hours and didnt get shit to work
[23:56] <m4r3z> ok thanx
[23:56] <LjL> !who | adi
[23:56] <Mooloo> uhm, ok i'm a dork. i checked the menus and shell, i never use desktop icons, heh.
[23:56] <droopsta915> can someone help me setup wifi on my laptop?
[23:56] <LjL> adi, answer me please, can you use sudo now or not?
[23:56] <bobertdos> Frogging101: ﻿Your windows partition will not get touched.
[23:56] <droopsta915> oops, how do u set up wifi on my laptop?
[23:56] <chendo_> Is there a good tutorial for setting up ubuntu server with RAID1 and LVM?
[23:56] <sebjo> hi, is there any1 here who can help out a newbie. i tried to restart my apache server and got the following msg: (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80
[23:56] <meoblast001> LjL: are there xsane logs?
[23:56] <DaskreecH> !wifi
[23:56] <Frogging101> bobertdos: thanks again
[23:56] <sebjo> what to do?
[23:56] <LjL> meoblast001: not sure honestly, i'm on KDE
[23:56] <sebjo> :(
[23:56] <adi> i typed gksu nautilus and
[23:56] <adi> didnt worked
[23:56] <jrib> sebjo: how did you try to restart it?
[23:57] <meoblast001> LjL: oh... .KDE sux lol
[23:57] <meoblast001> j/k
[23:57] <DaskreecH> LjL: Whoooo
[23:57] <Frogging101> It is warning me about swap space, what should I do?
[23:57] <adi> so i presume no sudo
[23:57] <DaskreecH> meoblast001: Boooo
[23:57] <meoblast001> LjL: its just my personal preference that i dont like KDE much
[23:57] <LjL> abi, type "sudo true" and see if that works. and, please, pay mind to the "!who" thing i gave you.
[23:57] <meoblast001> cant get used to some things
[23:57] <sebjo> jrib: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[23:57] <bobertdos> Frogging101: How much ram do you have?
[23:57] <Frogging101> how much swap space should i make
[23:57] <LjL> meoblast001: well, my personal preference is in favor of KDE, but personal preferences don't really matter her
[23:57] <DaskreecH> LjL: that's what she said
[23:57] <LjL> here* ...
[23:58] <Frogging101> 448 (It says 512 on front of computer, but not in system settings)
[23:58] <Frogging101> MB
[23:58] <jrib> sebjo: what happens if you do '/etc/init.d/apache2 stop'?  Can you check if apache is still running?
[23:58] <Tetracomm> Why is it that the Alsa mixer window is always empty? I just installed Debian.
[23:58] <meoblast001> LjL: cant GIMP control sane?
[23:58] <recon> Does anybody know of a tool I can use to adjust the page numbering on a pdf file?
[23:58] <LjL> adi, please speak in the channel
[23:58] <erichetta> !list
[23:58] <adi> ok
[23:59] <erichetta> halo
[23:59] <erichetta> !list
[23:59] <bobertdos> Frogging101:  The general rule of thumb is to double your RAM amount. So either create a swap partition (or you can create a swap file if you don't want to resize your partitions again).
[23:59] <LjL> meoblast001: don't know, i don't use gimp either. but probably yes, at least with "gimp2.0-quiteinsane"
[23:59] <DaskreecH> erichetta: You just did that
[23:59] <zelrikriando> Tetracomm, it's not a Debian channel here as far as I know :)
[23:59] <Frogging101> okay thank you
[23:59] <thiebaude> !swap
[23:59] <skorasaurus> blueeagle jrib: i tried to issue fsck -t vfat
[23:59] <LjL> meoblast001: you should also have "xscanimage" (which has some kind of GIMP support) already installed, try that too.
[23:59] <sebjo> jrib: httpd (no pid file) not running
[23:59] <Mooloo> man that zoomable worldmap timechooser is neat :)
[23:59] <meoblast001> LjL: i cant find quiteinsane on my aplications menu after i installed
[23:59] <skorasaurus> and i receiveD: fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found
[23:59] <skorasaurus> fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs for /dev/sda1
[23:59] <thiebaude> if you don't have enough
[23:59] <jrib> sebjo: k, so can you check if apache is running?