[00:20] hello [00:54] Hello [00:55] I have a problem when installing Xubuntu. The Installation process freezws at 15% the mouse will not even move. === Odd-rationale_ is now known as Odd-rationale [02:10] is there a special install method for SCSI drives? [02:22] * DarkTan taps in the screen [02:22] * gaurdro gets the windex and cleans the screen. [02:23] i dunno, having issues? [02:23] yeah, i have replaced every conciviable componet and burned two more CD, but every time i try to install from CD it gets to 2 percent of getting need files and tells me the CD is no good [02:23] CD works in other computers [02:24] CD works in same CD drive in other computers [02:24] IDE cable works with same CD in same CD drive in other computers [02:24] have you done the cd test option of the cd's boot menu? [02:24] CD drive and CD are fully accessable from windows, and i am even able to copy the entire CD with out and issue [02:25] will not work in the problem computer, will work in a different computer [02:25] even when using the same drive [02:31] is there anyway to install xubuntu while still in windows to a black drive? [02:46] anyone please answer this, Create a shell script dirtest, that will store the file listing of your root directory to dir.out; then filter and display only on the the directory that starts with either the letter 'e', 'm', 's' and store to dir1.out. [02:46] cd /; ls | grep [e,m,s] > dir1.out; cat dir1.out [02:46] is that right? === terd is now known as TerdFerg [03:30] sliverchair: that checks out, to me! [03:30] oh, theyre gone... [03:36] You guys have a Xubuntu Convert I got it finally installed today. Thanks you for the help [03:36] new2linux: cool! did it finally continue? [03:37] Ya I had to boot Xubuntu Live up not just the installer [03:37] new2linux: i was going to suggest just to use the alternative cd... but then you left... [03:37] but anyways, gald it works... [03:37] glad [03:40] I actually had tried the alternative and regular CD's and they were all bad burns so I then tried other ways (trying to fit it on a 256mb flash drive and a floppy) Then I decided to re-try the other "bad burns" andone worked.l [03:41] So in the menu there were two options Install Xubuntu and Try Xubuntu the Install Xubuntu failded twice so I tried installing through the try Xubuntu and it worked. [03:41] Thanks for the help [03:42] See ya === danopia_ is now known as danopia === danopia_ is now known as danopia === leche_y_galletas is now known as leche [07:47] Hi! is it possible to have xubuntu in less thn 500MB disc space ? [07:47] I guess it won't be xubuntu anymore [07:48] Since you would have to make extensive changes anyways, you could use as a base a distro that's more suited for tinkering [07:48] TheSheep: I am talking about core + xfe. [07:49] not sure how much space that uses [07:49] TheSheep: I do not need gcc or office apps [07:49] gcc is not installed by default in xubuntu anyways [08:21] S_A, you can use the minimal cd and then install what you need. [08:21] S_A, i can't promise you it stays under 500, though [08:21] S_A, depends a lot on what you need to install === ablomen_ is now known as ablomen [10:58] hi all, when i try to update my system i got this errors : http://paste.ubuntu.com/56965/ === naboo is now known as anyname [11:14] (re)submit my issue, when i try to update my system i got this errors : http://paste.ubuntu.com/56965/ === DaveDixonII is now known as dbdii-school [13:45] i'm having some difficulty getting my headset to work(microsoft lifechat lx-3000) [13:46] any idea where i should start? [13:46] coldhak, usb? [13:46] yes [13:47] what does lsusb tell you it is? [13:48] could be either of two of them. my keyboard's one of them [13:48] i think [13:48] ok....so what does lsusb say? [13:48] Bus 001 Device 004: ID 045e:00dd Microsoft Corp. [13:49] Bus 004 Device 003: ID 045e:070f Microsoft Corp. [13:51] ok.... [13:51] did you enable mic recording in volume manager? [13:53] and next question....do you hear sound? [13:53] mic feeds back into the headphones if I blow on it, but i don't hear other sound [13:53] or is the issue that you plug it in, and sound comes from your speakers and not the headset? [13:53] ok.... [13:53] that's it [13:53] speakers work, headset doesn't [13:53] then simply change the default sound card [13:54] how do i do that? [13:54] doyou have the volume manager plugin in the panel? [13:54] "volume control"? [13:55] yes [13:55] yes [13:55] right-click it and choose "properties [13:55] change the device [13:55] enjoy your stuff [13:55] =] [13:55] <.< didn't fix it. [13:56] which devices are listed? [13:56] speakers and the headset [13:56] hey....ill be back in like 10 minutes.... [13:56] and "default" [13:56] ok [13:56] i need to smoke b4 my shift starts [13:56] you set to headset and licked "close"? [13:57] yes. [13:57] it changed the settings for the volume manager panel thingy, but no change to drivers [14:06] coldhak, try this to get the drivers installed : [14:06] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=552896 [14:09] hello maxamillion [14:09] havent seen ya in quite som time [14:09] vidd: hi hi [14:09] i hang out here every day from 8am-5pm [14:10] i stay on irssi while at work because my job is to admin RHEL servers and we participate in the community a lot ... so i'm always in #rhel :) [14:10] thn perhaps i need to pay better attention! [14:10] i'm not very talkative though;) [14:11] coldhak, that help ya? [14:11] alsa's installed. aplay -l shows my headset [14:12] no sound through it though [14:12] sound only thru pc speakers? or no sound at all now? [14:12] only through speakers [14:13] i already had alsa installed yesterday [14:13] then your xfce4-mixer is set to the wrong device [14:14] i believe it might be a misconfiguration of alsa. i'm reading the docs on it [14:14] no...if alsa was messed up, you would have no sound at all [14:15] hmm. [14:15] but your system is pumping sound thru your on-board card instead of the usb card (the headset) [14:15] right [14:16] so i'm going to try to set the default to the usb card [14:16] you should have 3 choices: [14:16] default, on-board, and headset in xfce4-mixer [14:16] set it to headset [14:17] leave the configuration for default alone [14:17] (or you may have issues with your deasktop speakers in the future) [14:17] simply select the headset in the drop-down [14:18] what part of "did that already didn't work"... [14:19] so xfce4-mixer is currently set to something other then "default"? [14:21] yeah, it was default, I set it to the headset. [14:21] anyways, i'll brb. gotta restart to see if this edit worked [14:21] good luck [14:28] no luck :( [14:30] then im out of ideas =\ [15:47] Hi all. I work at a small radio station and we're testing Xubuntu and Flumotion to stream our broadcasts online. The volume was a little to loud so I was looking for some software to turn it down. I've installed tkmixer. My problem is when I first opened tkmixer the volume went from to loud to nothing. None of the sliders or options on tkmixer are helping. I also quit Flumotion and restarted, but [15:47] that didn't work either. Any ideas? [15:48] i can't install gnome. http://paste.ubuntu.com/57037/ here's the error msg [15:49] how do I disable the wastebasket? or at least stop xubuntu trying to copy things I delete from my mounted samba share over to my drive? and how do I stop my laptop from beeping whenever I delete something? [15:49] coldhak: did you have synaptic or Add/Remove open when you tried to install GNOME? [15:49] i've been trying for hours to get it working, but i can't find a way. it's like it just doesn't want to install anything gnome-related [15:49] synaptic [15:50] wait, what? [15:50] no. [15:50] then it'd say it couldn't get to the file 'cause it's locked. [15:50] (not what the error says) [15:50] coldhak: O, OK. I'm sorry I read the pastebin wrong. [15:51] Cahan: hold down right shift when you hit delete, then it won't go to trash [15:51] WKID: Did you try the volume settings in the upper right of the panel? [15:52] charlie-tca: thanks [15:52] You're welcome [15:53] charlie-tca: Yes. But it had no effect on turning down the volume in Flumotion. That's when I installed tkmixer. [15:53] Sorry to hear that. I don't know anything about Flumotion [15:55] charlie-tca: Yeah I'm kind of fumbling my way through it. I tried uninstalling tkmixer and then running the Flumotion wizard again. But when It's back up and running I still have no volume. I know Flumotion is using OSS. Do you know of a good volume manager for OSS? I tried the applet in the upper right, but it seems to only be for ALSA [15:56] Volume manager works for OSS, but you may have to make sure nothing got muted in the mixer. === sl_ is now known as Sltoon [16:00] anyone alive? [16:01] !anyone | Sltoon [16:01] Sltoon: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [16:01] ...has nobody tried to install gnome? [16:01] okie dokie.. [16:02] coldhak: I have gnome and xfce desktops installed in 8.04.01 [16:02] did you install xfce into ubuntu or gnome into xubuntu? [16:02] I installed Ubuntu and then installed xubuntu-desktop [16:03] doesn't help me then :( [16:03] i have xubuntu and want to install gnome [16:03] Why not install ubuntu-desktop, which installs gnome [16:03] Does anyone know how to get my Xubuntu Desktop working again? After login, all I'm getting is a *blank* desktop with a mouse cursor. I'm unable to do anything there and logging out and back in repeatedly does not work. I've seen bug reports with similar problems but haven't seen a solution that works for me. Replacing startxfce4 with xfce4-session does not work.. Help! [16:04] doesn't work. [16:04] Sltoon, start xfce4-panel ? [16:04] Sltoon: do you get the panels? [16:04] no panels at all [16:04] I'll try xfce4-panel [16:05] but that probably won't work because I'll have to get to terminal right? [16:05] could try completely removing xfce4(with configs), and reinstalling [16:05] ctrl+alt+f1 to get to terminal [16:05] I can't do anything in that blank desktop [16:05] coldhak: from the pastebin, you don't have the dependencies for gnome, which ubuntu-desktop installs [16:06] charlie-tca, I was under the impression that apt-get was supposed to install dependencies. [16:06] also, "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" gets a similar result. [16:07] ouch! [16:07] i think the package managers are broken. [16:07] or a repo issue maybe [16:07] what version of Xubuntu? [16:08] the newest one [16:08] removing and reinstalling xfce4 would kill all my previous setting right? [16:08] 8.1 i think [16:08] Intrepid [16:08] or Hardy [16:08] hardy [16:08] Sltoon: yes [16:08] Sltoon, yeah, it would [16:08] ok [16:08] I'm fucked [16:08] coldhak: did you do a apt-get update? [16:09] I think I'll wait 17 days until 8.10 comes out... [16:09] thanks guys [16:09] :( [16:09] charlie-tca, yess, i did [16:10] darn...he left [16:10] Maybe try dpkg --configure -a [16:11] no luck [16:11] coldhak, can you pastebin your sourses? [16:11] the sources.list? [16:11] yes [16:12] http://paste.ubuntu.com/57040/ [16:16] a few people on the 'net have had the same problem, but they all resolve it with "meh, i'll just reload the OS" [16:19] charlie-tca: FYI, tkmixer had muted my capture settings. I had to open alsamixer and arrow over to Capture and set it as the left and right output. Thanks for the help [16:20] You're welcome. I'm glad I could help [16:20] coldhak, your sources are all missing [16:21] ok, can i have your sources.list then? [16:21] yes [16:23] coldhak, http://paste.ubuntu.com/57045/ [16:26] http://paste.ubuntu.com/57047/ still pretty much the same [16:27] i wish it'd say why. "Depends:....but it's not going to be installed" WHY? [16:27] :/ [16:27] you have a version conflict [16:28] ...damn. [16:28] give me a moment [16:28] knew i should've kept using the old stuff. but the potential new shiny :( [16:29] coldhak, befor you install new stuff....update your old stuff [16:29] you have gutsy installed.... [16:30] .... [16:30] you need to upgrade to hardy first' [16:30] you're kidding me. [16:30] nope [16:30] your old sourses said "gutsy [16:30] that is version 7.10 [16:30] why doesn't the update manager say "there's a new distro..." [16:30] vidd: /why does he need to upgrade to hardy for gutsy? [16:30] mine was"hardy" [16:30] I know that. i updated through the update manager from 6.10 [16:31] charlie-tca, because he chnged his sourses to match mine [16:31] OH [16:32] usually the update manager says "there's a distro upgrade, would you like to?" [16:32] coldhak, either find/replace "hardy" with gutsy" or do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get distupgrade [16:32] coldhak, gutsy upgrade manager was disabled on my system as well [16:33] i had to manually update [16:33] E: Invalid operation distupgrade [16:33] whoops [16:33] dist-upgrade [16:34] i missed the hyphen [16:34] says there's nothing to upgrade [16:34] isn't there a command i could run to check the distro version? [16:34] im sure there is [16:35] if you do alt-ctrl-f1 it shows a terminal which says Ubuntu X.XX.X then you have to do alt-ctrl-f7 to get out [16:36] http://paste.ubuntu.com/57049/ i'm using hardy [16:36] distro version isn't the problem === danopia__ is now known as danopia [16:39] coldhak, now do the sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [16:40] ...i didn't change anything. results are the same. [16:40] if you get the "depends but not going to install" do a sudo apt-get install [package] [16:41] You did change your sources list, right? [16:41] yeah, to the copy of vidd's [16:43] coldhak, what does sudo apt-get install gimp-python give you? [16:43] gimp-python: Depends: gimp (= 2.4.5-1ubuntu2) but 2.4.6-1ubuntu1~hardy1 is to be installed [16:43] [pastebin results if it fails] [16:43] i hates unecessary dependencies :( [16:44] http://paste.ubuntu.com/57051/ [16:45] gimp's already installed, v2.4.6 [16:45] yeah [16:45] -_- failure. [16:45] patience..... [16:46] uninstalled gimp [16:46] gimp-python: Depends: gimp (= 2.4.5-1ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed [16:46] patience... [16:47] my system is slow [16:47] can't reinstall the gimp [16:47] im going to get you the link for the .deb [16:48] of gnome? [16:48] no...gimp-python [16:48] ok [16:48] what happened to gimp? [16:48] i told you, i just ininstalled it [16:48] *uninstalled [16:49] so what is happening when you try to install it back? [16:49] now i can't put it back. failed dependencies. [16:49] which items? [16:49] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [16:49] gimp: Depends: gimp-data (< 2.4.5-z) but 2.4.6-1ubuntu1~hardy1 is to be installed [16:49] Depends: libgimp2.0 (< 2.4.5-z) but 2.4.6-1ubuntu1~hardy1 is to be installed [16:49] fail. [16:51] searching for old .debs is painstaking [16:52] http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/graphics/gimp-data [16:52] it's not worth all this trouble. i'd have to redo all this next time i reload. I'll just dl the ubuntu iso and install xubuntu-desktop on it [16:53] seriously, i'd have to install dosens of packages :/ [16:53] coldhak, you have your /home on a seperate partition? [16:53] no. [16:53] you might want to back up your /home partition [16:53] i keep most of my data outside my /home on /media/sdb1 [16:53] that way all your settings, etc will be saved [16:54] i've got a backup copy of my /home [16:54] good.... [16:54] then do this: [16:55] sudo apt-get remove --purge x11-common && sudo apt-get --purge autoremove [16:55] this gets you do a basic cli-only system [16:55] ....that looks volatile. [16:55] reboot.... [16:56] then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install [flavor]-desktop [16:56] it removes all the x11 stuff [16:56] and purges configuration files [16:57] its a "drop back ten yards and punt" approach [16:57] i'm doing other things today, so i'll need to do that tomorrow [16:57] it will leave you with a fully functional cli-only [16:57] :o WoW works in wine. [16:57] yes it does [16:58] any one try archlinux [16:58] it has for quite some time [16:58] takes up tons more CPU than on windows though [16:58] oklinux, is it deb-based? [16:58] I dont think so [16:59] then why would i want to ? [17:00] is suppose to be leaner faster but I dont know [17:00] and minimal [17:01] if it dont have super-cow-powers, its not good enough for me! [17:01] what is a super cow power ? [17:02] oklinux, google "apt-get cow power" [17:02] in a deb-based system, type apt-get moo [17:02] you will see [17:08] hrm...it used to say "apt has super cow powers [17:09] it does. [17:09] apt-get moo [17:09] then apt-get --help [17:09] "this apt now has super cow powers" [17:10] yeah...but apt-get moo used to say it too [17:11] now it says "have you mooed today [17:11] aptitude -v moo [17:11] there's a bug report that the cow doesn't look much like a cow. [17:11] aptitude -vv moo [17:12] Odd-rationale, lol [17:12] vidd: -vvv [17:12] -vvvv? [17:12] Odd-rationale, keep adding! === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache [17:14] aptitude -vvvvv moo [17:14] and aptitude -vvvvvv moo [17:14] rather amusing [17:24] any one here try archlinux ? [17:24] I bet if you asked in #archlinux you would find far more people who know about archlinux [17:24] zoredache, lol [17:24] * charlie-tca nods [17:25] Im in xubuntu now I trying to see what the hype is ? [17:26] about what? xubuntu? [17:26] no arch ver xubuntu [17:29] I gave up on trying to compare distros a decade ago... Just pick one and learn it... Once you have learned it, you can pretty much do anything you can do anywhere else === danopia_ is now known as danopia [17:42] how can I teak xubuntu ? [17:43] any way you like? [17:43] perhaps the question should be how can't you tweak ubuntu [17:45] is 36 seconds from grub to gnome is average booting time on a dual core 2000 mhz 1 gigs ram 80 gigs sate drive [17:45] I don't turn my computers off, so I wouldn't know... [17:46] I think optimizing startup time is kinda silly. You almost always do it at the expense of loosing something that will improve performance/usability once the system is up [17:51] uptime:12:52:48 up 15 days, 3:29, 2 users, load average: 1.23, 0.89, 0.79 [17:52] =] [17:52] why would you want to leave your computer on for a long time ? [17:53] why would you want to keep turning it off and on all the time? [17:53] so I can access it remotely from anywhere? [17:53] 18:53:03 up 144 days, 3:54, 50 users, load average: 2.35, 1.82, 1.52 [17:53] :) [17:53] save electricity ? [17:53] TheSheep, power outage here [17:53] uses more power to boot up [17:53] then to run in sleep mode for 3 days [17:54] a computer doesn't really use that much power when it isn't doing anything... My system idles at about 40w [17:54] 40w is one lamp [17:55] heh...more like half a lamp here in the us [17:55] * vidd uses 75w bulbs [17:57] if you want to save even more you can work on getting sleeping to work... [18:19] oklinux, i read up on that archlinux ... it is not for the novice user [18:21] vidd: 75w bulbs can take 40w too [18:21] vidd: well, novice user is not tinkering, right? [18:22] TheSheep, im a moderately experienced user...and im intimidated by the install process [18:23] he wanted an opinion on archlinux, i gave him an informed one [18:24] * TheSheep likes archlinux, it's very simple and straightforward -- that is, it has no magic and no automation [18:24] you earn about linux with it, not about the distribution [18:25] Hi peeps. Im on a Linux EeePC though I [18:26] ive no idea what distro its running [18:26] if you haven't changed it, it's xandros. [18:26] kde and xandros ring a bell... [18:26] yes. [18:27] it is kde on xandros [18:27] I've got a bit of a problem here. would it be ok to ask you lot about it, or would you suggest going somewhere more specific to xandros and Eeepcs? [18:27] well, this really isn't a chan for eeepc nor xandros [18:28] but you can try, if it turns out to be an easy one [18:28] Ah. well I see #eeepc is quite busy so I might try there. [18:29] ok, sounds better way for you to get info anyway [18:30] Well, it's that the update software wasnt working so I tried "sudo apt-get upgrade" and found that it did work... except that now the default interface environment thing (with all the purdy buttons on the desktop) doesnt load on startup. [18:31] yeah i think the simple interface is quite strict [18:31] It should be noted that really, I don't know what Im doing as well as I should :s [18:31] i'm running xubuntu on my eeepc thougs, so i don't know a lot about xandros... [18:31] *though [18:32] ooh. I do like Xubuntu and run it on my Laptop, but unfortunately this Eeepc isn't mine, so I'd like to leave it looking roughly the same as I found it. [18:32] you *found* it? :P [18:32] knome: hehe no, it's actually my mums [18:33] agh. [18:33] But you know what oldies are like about change. [18:33] they love it! ;P [18:33] http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/151 [18:33] In my experience they love continuity [18:33] you might be interested in reading that [18:34] * Markopotamus takes a look [18:34] especially the netbook-remix part [18:34] :) [18:35] hehe ok [18:35] dont suppose you'd happen to have any tips about restoring this poor beast though, would you? [18:36] Hey, what does OEM stand for? [18:36] Original Equipment Manufacturer [18:36] Cheers, thesheep [18:36] means it's software that should be preinstalled on some hardware, and so can be only boght by hardware manufacturers [18:37] I do see. [18:38] Hmm. it'd also be useful to know a few keyboard commands, for instance how to bring up the run command. Doesnt seem to be alt-f2 :s [18:41] Markopotamus, no, i have got no tips for restoring [18:41] alt+ctrl+f1 [18:41] Markopotamus, apart from the restore disc, but that's complete boom [18:44] knome: Im told by someone in #eeepc that f9 on startup resets factory settings. TheSheep: groovy, lemme try that... [18:44] Markopotamus: that should switch to text xonsole [18:44] console [18:44] Markopotamus: press alt+ctrl+f7 to go back [18:45] TheSheep. Hmm. Not working right now. [18:47] hi, i had a usb keyboard which was working fine, then suddenly after a reboot it's stopped [18:47] it's possible it's the keyboard itself, but i tried it on a windows machine and it worked so i'm wondering if there are driver issues [18:49] jals, shouldn't really be with a kb. did you put it in the same usb port? [18:49] i didn't change it between when it stopped working [18:49] i've tried other ports since [18:49] uh.. interesting [18:49] !keyboard [18:49] To switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts [18:49] nah, not useful [18:50] jals, have you searched ubuntuforums.org ? [18:50]