/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/10/14/#kubuntu-devel.txt

jussi01Good Morning all08:09
Riddellgood morning jussi0110:23
jussi01Riddell: busy day in here...:P10:26
apacheloggerRiddell: I don't know what kdeeject does, but judging from the name I guess it is better than umount10:50
Riddellapachelogger: except it doesn't exist any more10:51
apacheloggerNightrose: I thought we get amarok2 for intrepid :P10:51
apacheloggerRiddell: well, I guess umount will do in that case10:51
apacheloggerisn't there an eject cmd as well?10:51
apachelogger       eject - eject removable media10:52
Nightroseapachelogger: well complain to everyone who didn't get their ass up during beta 2 development10:52
Riddellsure, for CDs10:52
apachelogger       Eject allows removable media (typically a CD-ROM, floppy disk, tape, or JAZ or ZIP disk) to be ejected under software control. The command can also control some multi-disc CD-ROM changers, the auto-eject feature supported by10:52
apachelogger       some devices, and close the disc tray of some CD-ROM drives.10:52
apacheloggerNightrose: I could mainly complain about mysqle :P10:53
Nightroseyea...10:53
Nightrose:/10:53
apacheloggerRiddell: yeah, does only work with devices where you can push something in ;-)10:54
davmor2apachelogger: my God you mean you don't need to push in a usb connector ;)10:56
apacheloggerwell10:56
apacheloggerthe thing that gets pushed is perferebly a storage media10:56
apacheloggernow since hte usb connector's buffer is not exactly big, I would not call it storage media :P10:57
* apachelogger always liked the idea of storing data on his NIC though 10:57
apacheloggercan someone please run kwin with desktop effects and check how many wakeups it causes in powertop?11:00
jussi01apachelogger: I would, but desktop effects give me a nice white screen and some fuzzy window outlines...11:04
apacheloggercan you turn them off again? :P11:04
Riddellapachelogger: kwin doesn't register on powertop here11:04
jussi01apachelogger: thankfully it has a timeout11:04
apacheloggerRiddell: not even with desktop effects?11:05
Riddelloh wait, there it is now  4.2% ( 43.1)              kwin11:05
apachelogger*nod*11:05
apacheloggerwithout effects:11:05
apachelogger   0.6% (  0.6)              kwin : schedule_timeout (process_timeout)11:05
* apachelogger closes bug11:06
Tonio_hi there11:24
Tonio_Riddell: hi11:25
Tonio_Riddell: still thinking about a decent SIP thing we should have on the cd for jaunty11:25
Tonio_Riddell: wengophone seems to still be in the work, and seems fairly more stable11:32
Tonio_Riddell: also the interesting point is that it can now be used as a standard SIP client (no wengo account required11:32
Tonio_Riddell: I remember we discarded the idea of shiping with it as there was no way to use a standard SIP account11:33
Tonio_Riddell: that changed, and since it seems stable and QT4 based, shouldn't we reconsider this during the UDS ?11:33
Tonio_Riddell: no SIP out of the box is something we always have ben missing compared to Ubuntu11:33
RiddellTonio_: sure we can look at it11:49
RiddellI seem to remember it was large to install11:50
* Nightrose uses twinkle for SIP11:53
Nightrosenot too bad11:53
apacheloggernixternal: does bug 252002 affect kdelibs or kwin?11:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 252002 in kdebase-workspace "YaKuake 2.9.3 does not allow the menu key to be used as a shortcut" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25200211:53
Nightrosebut also not awesome11:53
apacheloggerRiddell: a packaging nightmare first of all11:54
apacheloggerRiddell: upstream ships all the codecs and stuff in their tarball11:54
Riddellthat too11:54
apacheloggerIIRC even depends on very specific versions :S11:54
Riddellapachelogger: that might even be qt11:54
apachelogger*nod*11:54
apacheloggernorsetto has a strange way to answer questions11:56
Riddellapachelogger: but go with kde4libs11:56
apacheloggerRiddell: ok11:56
apacheloggerbug 27806211:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 278062 in rosegarden "Rosegarden depends on Dolphin file manager" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27806211:56
Riddellapachelogger: I can't find the adept patch you sent me12:01
apacheloggerone moment12:01
apacheloggerRiddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/57393/12:02
apacheloggerRiddell: I am uploading kdeutils with ark patch12:04
Riddellgreat12:04
davmor2Riddell: quick query why does the welcome screen say Welcome to ubuntu ?12:08
Riddelldavmor2: which welcome screen?12:08
davmor2kdm login screen12:08
Riddelldoes it?12:09
Riddellit'll be the name of the computer12:09
davmor2Yes I wouldn't ask else :)12:09
davmor2Riddell: Ah that makes sense I use the default for machine name on alt installs :)12:10
Riddelldavmor2: I uploaded a fix for smb this morning12:14
Riddelljust for you12:14
=== Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Todo | two days until freeze, quick fix everything!
davmor2Riddell: I'll try it in a second then :)12:15
RiddellI don't know if it's in the archive yet12:15
davmor2Riddell: seems to be in now and working properly.but that is from cd rather than upgrade.12:23
RiddellI'd be surprised if it was on the CD12:23
davmor2Riddell: I did do updates so it might of been in that.  But at least now it finds the samba share which it didn't yesterday :)12:26
Tonio_Riddell: wengophone is pretty big (not that much)12:28
Tonio_Riddell: arround 6 MB (7 including libs)12:28
Tonio_Riddell: but that's the only "UI acceptable" qt4 based sip client out there12:29
Tonio_Riddell: I'll plan to rediscuss this during the UDS or later...12:29
Riddellhow?  you won't be at UDS12:30
Riddellyou'll need to find a SIP client that works to talk to us at UDS about working SIP clients :)12:31
tester__hello12:38
davmor2well that works12:38
Tonio_Riddell: http://www.qutecom.org/12:39
Tonio_Riddell: it seems that there is now a separate branch of the voip software (may not be linked to the commercial wengo service)12:39
Tonio_Riddell: good for us ;)12:39
Tonio_Riddell: building to test asap12:40
davmor2Riddell: Kontact seems to of got broke from the favourites menu12:40
davmor2works from apps->office->pim though12:41
Tonio_Riddell: and it is activelly maintained as you can see there : http://hg.qutecom.org/qutecom-2.2/12:44
Riddelldavmor2: hmm, new user?12:54
RiddellI wonder if that's apachelogger's kickoffrc at work12:55
davmor2Riddell: default user on a fresh install12:55
apacheloggeruh12:56
apacheloggermaybe I typoed12:56
apacheloggeryes I did12:56
* apachelogger thinks the freedesktop desktop entry spec should enfoce lowercase names12:57
davmor2Riddell: http://www.davmor2.co.uk/ss.png12:57
davmor2Riddell: why when you select on kwin option does it not override the current option?  i.e. if you select explode windows on close it doesn't override fade so the window still fades13:01
apacheloggerRiddell: any other pending chages  for kds?13:02
davmor2Riddell: Nvidia Settings shows up in apps->sytem and apps->settings13:05
apacheloggerdavmor2: Categories=System;Settings;13:09
apacheloggerfrom the desktop file13:09
apacheloggerplease report a bug against nvidia-settings13:09
apacheloggerSystem and Settings are both main categories, it really should only use one13:09
vorianhoi13:11
apacheloggeraloha13:11
apacheloggervorian: where is the blog post?13:11
vorianok, today is my first day off, i'll have it out shortly13:12
apachelogger\o/13:12
vorianwe were out of kubuntu cd13:12
vorians13:12
apacheloggerhooray :D13:12
vorianin like 2 hours or less13:12
vorianit was crazy!!!13:12
apacheloggeralways is13:12
apacheloggercanonical always sends to few kubuntu cds13:12
Riddellapachelogger: kwwii had a new artwork/branding.svg13:12
* apachelogger pokes kwwii13:13
* apachelogger starts searching something to eat13:14
Tm_Tapachelogger: you thought kwwii is too long gone to be eaten?13:15
Tm_T" *pokepoke* yuck what squishy and smelly!"13:15
Riddelldavmor2: kwin's plugin system isn't that clever yet13:16
Riddelldavmor2: have you tried a kubuntu live CD recently? is there an "about kubuntu" icon on the desktop?13:19
JontheEchidna\o/ http://ariya.blogspot.com/2008/10/pimp-my-widgets.html13:26
ScottKApparently there's a kdesvn 1.2.1 that's KDE4.13:49
* ScottK will be offline the rest of the day ...13:49
NightroseScottK: apachelogger already packaged it afaik13:51
Nightroseat least i have a kdesvn-kde4 here13:51
kwwiiRiddell, apachelogger: ouch, I think I got rid of my local copy after I gave it to you13:52
Riddellkwwii: I've got one here, one sec13:52
kwwiiand it looks like my server just went up in flames13:52
rgreeningmorning :P13:52
Riddellkwwii: erk!13:53
Riddellkwwii: http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/branding_new.svg13:53
kwwiiRiddell: right, that has my ideas in it....did anyone else have any comments or suggestions?13:54
rgreeningRiddell: how come that svg link works with FF but not Konq.. grr...13:54
Riddellkwwii: could we have the one in the bottom left, with the document page sized to fit it and grouped with an id of "brilliant"13:54
a|wenScottK: btw when talking about kdesvn ... the version in hardy should be updated to a newer version too; it isn't really compatible with the svn version and is throwing error messages around like a mad-man13:55
kwwiiRiddell: yepp, won't take but a minute13:55
ScottKa|wen: Agreed.13:57
a|wenScottK: i suppose we could package it for hardy-backports, after the kde4 version (1.2.1) is in intrepid?13:58
* a|wen is compiling kdepim ... I think i finally got the last kde3.5.10 blocker on the list squeezed (crossed fingers) :)14:00
davmor2apachelogger: np's14:00
davmor2Riddell: I've not but I might after.  As Far as I can remember from beta it's gone14:00
RiddellI added it back after beta14:04
davmor2Riddell: I'll check after14:05
kwwiiRiddell: svg sent per email14:06
apacheloggerScottK: it is in the experimental repo, probably should move to the kde4 ppa if there is a official release of it14:06
Tm_Tapachelogger: Riddell: we are aware that bluez issue seems to be fixed in trunk?14:06
RiddellTm_T: kde trunk?14:06
Tm_Tyes14:06
RiddellTm_T: what makes you say that?14:06
Tm_TRiddell: builds fine here now14:06
Tm_Thaven't had any chance to test it for real though14:07
RiddellI don't think it has ever not compiled14:07
Tm_TRiddell: it has, here, because of api change or so14:08
JontheEchidnaman, b.k.o is always down14:09
Riddellhttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/kdebase-workspace/4:4.1.2-0ubuntu9 seems to have compiled a couple of days ago14:09
Tm_Tinteresting14:09
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: that is what you get for letting suse manage the servas :P14:10
JontheEchidna:P14:10
apacheloggerRiddell, kwwii: do we have branding for upload?14:11
Riddellhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/solid/bluez/bluez-bluetoothmanager.h?view=log  "-port to bluez4 api (not complete)"  that sounds promising14:11
Tm_TRiddell: see r870975, "Fix compilation by reverting API breakage."14:11
Tm_Tso bah, I dunno14:12
Riddellapachelogger: http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/branding_new.svg14:12
Riddellgoes in artwork/branding.svg14:13
RiddellTm_T: you are able to test bluetooth I take it?14:13
davmor2apachelogger: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-settings/+bug/28322914:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 283229 in nvidia-settings "Intrepid: Kubuntu Nvidia setting appears in applications->system and applications->settings" [Undecided,New]14:13
Tm_TRiddell: I will try as soon as my current build is ready14:13
Riddellhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/solid/bluez/bluez-bluetoothmanager.h?r1=703402&r2=870613  hmm, mostly commenting code out14:14
Tm_Tawwww14:14
apacheloggerhttp://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/snapshot158.png14:14
apacheloggerlooking sweet14:14
kwwiiapachelogger: erm, not sure what you mean? talking about the svg from before?14:14
Tm_TRiddell: that's cheating!14:14
Riddellsweet like a honey piece14:15
Riddellkwwii: yes, he's sorted14:15
kwwiikuhl :-)14:15
Riddellnow there's a new spelling14:15
kwwiihrm, looking at that screenshot I am not sure if the line around the outside it necessary14:16
Riddelluh oh, he's gone into perfectionist mode14:17
kwwiiI guess it is good to have it when a person uses a different color UI though14:17
kwwii:-)14:17
Tm_Tkwwii: agreed14:17
Tm_Tkwwii: I have seen enough borkage with my dark theme already =)14:17
* kwwii sings "If you gonna do it, do it right"14:18
Tm_Tkwwii: indeed14:18
Tm_Tkwwii: you have to see one video...14:18
Tm_Taww, konqueror has a name of "konqbrowser" now14:18
Tm_Twho's idea is that, I wonder14:19
kwwiiI assumed it would be called Krowser or such14:19
kwwiiKinternetBrowser14:19
apacheloggerkwwii: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/snapshot159.png14:20
apacheloggerdark schemes are not be considered at all, because they look ugly and decrease accessibility in most cases :P14:20
kwwiiapachelogger: nahhh, I guess the one with the background does look better14:20
apacheloggeroh kay14:21
kwwiiI bet Aaron will love the fact that I put Kubuntu before KDE :-)14:21
a|wenScottK: or if there is more important things to do than packaging kdesvn it might be worth at least syncing 1.0.4-2 from unstable to intrpid14:21
apachelogger^_^14:21
davmor2Riddell: I've just burnt and fired up todays desktop cd no about Kubuntu in the desktop widget14:24
apacheloggerbzr: ERROR: Tags not supported by BzrBranch5('file:///home/me/src/bzr/kds/kds/'); you may be able to use bzr upgrade.14:24
apachelogger-.-14:24
apacheloggergit owns bzr14:24
Riddelldavmor2: hmm, fooey, thanks14:25
davmor2np's14:25
Tm_Tkwwii: do it right! http://www.demoscene.tv/page.php?id=172&lang=uk&vsmaction=view_prod&id_prod=1339214:25
kwwiiTm_T: cool! which one are you???14:27
Tm_Tkwwii: none, really, just something I watched with ~4 000 others few months ago14:28
kwwiiTm_T: oh, come on...don't be shy :p14:28
Tm_Tkwwii: ok, I was the old lady14:29
kwwiiwow, you are soooo hot14:29
Tm_Tindeed14:29
Tm_Thow droll14:29
apachelogger-(~/src/bzr/kds/kds:$)-> bzr tags14:30
apachelogger1:8.10-12            21214:30
apacheloggerso, how do I get that on lp -.-14:30
apacheloggerRiddell: kds uploaded14:31
Riddellapachelogger: super14:31
apacheloggerjussi01: btw, do you have time to file a backport bug for quassel?14:36
apacheloggerI patched our package with the 0.3.0.2 fixes yesterday14:36
apacheloggerwe probably should get it in hardy as well14:36
rgreeningRiddell: python plasmoids scriptengine added to kde 4.2 trunk. It appears low/no risk to backport. I'm building packages to test.14:40
Riddell_Sime: is that sane? ^^14:40
rgreeningif it works, it'll be a boost to development of new plasmoids14:41
RiddellI'd expect the plasma api to have changed though14:43
rgreeningRiddell: I'll find out soon ebough.. :)14:43
* rgreening off to b0rk his lappy to test plasma pythonoids14:44
JontheEchidnalmao @ http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/13609/14:46
RiddellJontheEchidna: amusing how none of the commenters realise it's a parody :)14:47
JontheEchidnayou mean it's not? :o14:47
JontheEchidna:P14:48
rgreeninghehe14:48
rgreeningRiddell: it all appears contained in the scriptengine dir. And it's a plugin... so, unless the plugin API changed from 4.1, it should work.15:03
Tonio_Riddell: I've been able to build and use qutecom15:07
RiddellTonio_: it's a fork of wengo?15:07
Tonio_Riddell: in fact it is an openwengo without  the wengo integration, therefore it just makes SIP15:07
Tonio_Riddell: yep15:07
Riddellinteresting15:07
Tonio_probably better for us to go in main since it is not linked to any company15:07
nixternalapachelogger: it effects whatever controls the shortcuts15:10
apacheloggerexaclty :P15:11
Tonio_hum, I'm sick of those kernel freezes...... dunno what causes this15:12
nixternalwhat did I say it was? I can't even remember now15:12
nixternalbut whatever I said it was, is correct, as it belongs to khotkeys, or khotkeys belongs to it rather15:12
Tonio_Riddell: I still have a couple of patches from wengophone/debian to rewrite, and I'll maintain this thing on my ppa, so that it can be tested during the UDS15:12
apacheloggernixternal: actually it does not15:13
a|wenScottK: I finally found a fix for bug 262538 :)15:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 262538 in kdepim "Kontact / Kaddressbook 3.5.10 : mail-list disappeared + impossible to create" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26253815:13
apacheloggernixternal: only non-global non-app shortcuts are done by khotkeys15:13
apacheloggerthe presented one is a global shortcut and is regulated by kded directly15:14
apacheloggerthe issue however is in the widget I guess15:14
apacheloggeror kwin15:14
apacheloggerwhatever is responsible rendering the context key15:14
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: what to do with bug 28287415:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 282874 in kdebase-workspace "kwin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28287415:20
JontheEchidnaWell, we eventually did get a backtrace. But the backtrace looks similar to a bug upstream marked as worksforme, which I coincidentally can't find15:21
apacheloggeroh my15:22
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: mention that in a comment15:22
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: bug 27809015:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 278090 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-177 "konqueror crashes X (Saw signal 11.  Server aborting. )" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27809015:23
apacheloggerX is also in the user space :P15:23
JontheEchidnaheh, probably not the best term :P15:23
apacheloggerwell, even if you cut that part the statement is not correct :P15:23
JontheEchidnaoh, that alt-tab crash might be bug 27152315:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 271523 in kdebase-workspace "kwin crashed with signal 7 in KWin::Effect::paintScreen()" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27152315:24
JontheEchidna...which has a worksforme upstream report about alt-tab :P15:24
* apachelogger finds the status worksforme a bit dangerous15:25
apacheloggergets used much too often15:25
JontheEchidnaso, I guess I'll dupe it...15:26
* apachelogger hopes ScottK already prepared a gift hamper for metellius15:28
* apachelogger is wondering if gift hamper actually means anything15:28
JontheEchidnabug 28324215:28
JontheEchidnanot a workspace problem, but where?15:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 283242 in kdebase-workspace "kubuntu kde4 8.04 8.10 doesn't poweroff when you shutdown" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28324215:28
JontheEchidnaoh, hmm, actually it's probably the "X hangs when logging out of KDE with certain videocards" bug15:29
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: .xsession-errors required15:29
apacheloggermine did hang yesterday as well15:29
apacheloggerI got15:29
apacheloggerkonqueror(7464) Sonnet::Loader::~Loader: Removing loader :  Sonnet::Loader(0x9a2e658)15:29
apachelogger** (process:7464): WARNING **: 1 dictionaries weren't free'd.15:29
apacheloggerLocking assertion failure.  Backtrace:15:29
apacheloggerthough I have no idea where that assert came from15:29
apacheloggerprobably kded15:29
apacheloggerand15:29
apacheloggerkonqueror(7464) NSPluginLoader::release: NSPluginLoader::release ->  -615:29
apacheloggerTry to load libthai dynamically...15:29
apacheloggerError, can't load libthai...15:29
apacheloggerthen KDE was closing all the kio slaves and stopped the shutdown process for something15:30
=== Czessi__ is now known as Czessi
* apachelogger is now closing 18 bugs :P15:32
JontheEchidna:P15:33
a|wenScottK: kdepim for hardy-backports is ready: http://awen.dk/packages/kde3.5.10/kdepim_3.5.10-0ubuntu1~hardy2.debdiff15:34
^andrea^Hello everybody,15:38
^andrea^can I ask something regarding a connection between an IDE and a ftp server that does not want to work???15:38
^andrea^please...15:39
Riddell^andrea^: that sounds off topic15:42
^andrea^sorry... where can I go?15:42
Riddell^andrea^: a support channel for the IDE or ftp server, depending on which is at fault15:42
^andrea^ok, but I think mine is a general problem... it's not a problem with that IDE or that server... it's a problem between any IDEs and any ftp servers "active"...15:44
^andrea^anyway, I though it was off topic...15:45
^andrea^but just did not know where to go...15:45
jussi01^andrea^: then perhaps #kubuntu - thats the official support channel for kubuntu15:45
apacheloggerok15:45
apacheloggerI have 4 strigi bugs15:45
apacheloggerall against 0.5.1115:45
apacheloggerall happening at login15:45
apacheloggerall having different traces15:46
apacheloggerwhat to do with them?15:46
apacheloggercould have a common cause but different results15:46
apacheloggeror be completely related at all15:46
apachelogger*unrelated15:46
^andrea^jussi01: I use Ubuntu actually... (even though I'm using Quanta+...) but the problem is not with the IDE, because happens the same with Eclipse...15:47
jussi01^andrea^: then #ubuntu :)15:48
rgreeningI'm trying to debug a CMake issue. Any takers? Unknown CMake command "add_sip_python_module"15:48
Riddellapachelogger: ask vandenoever?15:48
apacheloggerRiddell: does strigi actually have a bug tracker?15:49
Riddellapachelogger: I'm not sure, bugs.kde.org?15:49
apacheloggernothing there15:49
Riddellrgreening: likely defined in a cmake include somewhere ( _Sime will know where)15:49
^andrea^hehe, I'm in the #Ubuntuforums as well but no luck... I'll try with the #Ubuntu...15:50
^andrea^cheers guys!15:50
apacheloggerah15:50
RiddellTm_T: did you get bluetooth compiled?15:50
apacheloggerRiddell: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=171000&atid=856302 he doesn't seem to be a very good bug triager ;-)15:51
JontheEchidnaIs there a better way to do this: setVerticalScrollMode ( QAbstractItemView::ScrollPerPixel ); ?15:56
JontheEchidnaOtherwise I have a patch for adept that fixes bug 52461 and bug 27519615:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 52461 in adept "Fix expanding item description at bottom of table so it no longer expands out of view" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/5246115:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 275196 in adept "(Kubuntu Intrepid) In Adept search tab, after clicking on a package and scrolling down, info display disappears" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27519615:59
JontheEchidna<3 Qt16:01
JontheEchidnaLooking at Kate, I guess that's how it's done16:03
apacheloggervorian: bug 28328416:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 283284 in kdiamond-kde4 "Depends on libkdegames4-kde4 which cannot be satisfied" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28328416:05
vorianroger16:07
JontheEchidnaRiddell: When you find time, I come bearing patches in bug 27519616:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 275196 in adept "(Kubuntu Intrepid) In Adept search tab, after clicking on a package and scrolling down, info display disappears" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27519616:08
JontheEchidnaer, one patch but it fixes two bugs16:08
JontheEchidnaNow if only that search bug was fixed I'd say that I was very happy with Adept's current state. But for now I'll have to say I'm happy. :)16:10
vorianapachelogger: that should be removed from the archives16:10
apacheloggervorian: is there a non -kde4 version?16:10
vorianin games16:10
apacheloggeroh16:10
apacheloggerRiddell: please remove kdiamond-kde4 source package (merged in kdegames)16:10
vorianit moved to kde proper between hardy/indrepid16:11
* apachelogger is testbuilding kepas16:11
vorian!info kdiamond intrepid16:11
ubottukdiamond (source: kdegames): three-in-a-row game for KDE 4. In component main, is extra. Version 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 194 kB, installed size 480 kB16:11
apacheloggersmarter should be on top of his bug fixes :P16:11
vorianapachelogger: i could create a transitional package in kdegames16:12
vorians/could/should16:12
apacheloggervorian: did you do for all the extragear packages yet?16:12
vorianyes16:12
apacheloggerawesome16:12
apachelogger\o716:12
apacheloggerhm16:12
apachelogger00716:12
vorianbroken arm!16:12
* vorian calls waaambulance16:12
apacheloggervorian: did you blog yet?16:13
vorianno man16:13
apachelogger:(16:13
voriani'm trying to fix my car sterio16:13
vorianI changed the battery today, and it locked it:(16:13
apacheloggerand you think that is more important?!?!? Oo16:13
vorianyes !16:13
apacheloggeroh my16:13
* apachelogger gets a tea with loads of rum16:14
vorianlol16:14
* JontheEchidna plays around with his adept fixes more16:15
* rgreening is beating pythonoids into workspace16:16
* vorian is fixing car sterio and kdegames16:17
apacheloggerrgreening: why is that in workspace?16:19
apacheloggerthat should be bindings really16:19
rgreeningapachelogger: it's a scriptengine, and that's where it's at in trunk16:21
apacheloggerOo16:21
apacheloggerscrewy16:21
rgreeningapachelogger: but there are parts in bindings to..16:21
apacheloggerruby got no stuff in workspace16:21
apachelogger*cough* superior *cough*16:21
* a|wen starts looking into updating kdesvn for intrepid16:22
rgreeningkpythonpluginfactory goes in to kde4bindings16:22
apacheloggera|wen: huh?16:22
_Simekpythonpluginfactory is used for almost every kind of plugin in KDE now.16:22
rgreening_Sime: hey. maybe you can help me with some of my backport attempt with pythonoids16:23
a|wenapachelogger: the version in intrepid is 1+ years old, is for kde3, and doesn't even work well on kde316:23
apacheloggernice16:23
apacheloggera|wen: go with the kde4 version16:23
apacheloggerworks pretty well here16:23
_Simergreening: backport to what exactly?16:23
apacheloggerat least the 3 times I used it ;-)16:23
=== txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger
apachelogger_Sime: 4.1.216:23
rgreening_Sime: 4.1 (Intrepid) from KDE 4.2 trunk16:24
a|wenapachelogger: is that one already in intrepid?16:24
apacheloggera|wen: no it is in the kubuntu-experimental ppa16:24
apacheloggerbesides, it's a mono package build so you would have to update on top of the kde3 package16:24
apacheloggerbut you can steal the build-deps ;-)16:24
a|wenapachelogger: ahh ... isn't it time to move it to intrepid then ;)16:25
_Simergreening: I really can't say much about that. I don't know how much plasma stuff from trunk is different from 4.1.16:25
rgreening_Sime: from looking, it appears not to be a big change. It's simply adding a new script engine/plugin16:25
rgreening_Sime: what I am stuck on now is some cmake stuff.16:25
apacheloggera|wen: Riddell would have to give a FFe, but I for one don't think we should update the package unless the current one is complete crap16:26
apacheloggera|wen: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdesvn/kde416:26
_Simergreening: what is wrong with cmake?16:26
a|wenapachelogger: it is 90% crap on hardy ... don't suppose it is much better on intrepid, but might be wrong16:26
apacheloggera|wen: oh right, please store the packaging in a branch ;-)16:27
rgreening_Sime: http://paste.ubuntu.com/57479/16:27
a|wenapachelogger: i will ... do you suppose it is okay to build upon the newest kde3 version in debian?16:28
_Simergreening: I checked in some missing cmake modules today(? yesterday?)16:28
apacheloggera|wen: as long as you don't cause regressions ;-)16:28
_Simergreening: workspace should have those cmake modules some where.16:29
JontheEchidnargreening: I'd suggest checking out all of workbase and grepping16:29
a|wenapachelogger: of course not :)16:29
rgreening_Sime: hmm... they are in the kde4bindings source16:30
apacheloggera|wen: yah yah, that's what they all say :P16:30
_Simergreening: but also in workspace.16:30
rgreeninglet me look.. 1 sec16:30
_Simergreening: workspace has an optional dependency on kdebindings.16:30
_Simergreening: so, the cmake modules are duplicated there.16:30
rgreeningok, so what am I missing ...?16:31
* Riddell out to shops16:31
a|wenapachelogger: heh :P ... i've been heavily regression fixing kde3.5.10 so I know what a pain it is16:31
apacheloggerfair enough16:31
_SimeRiddell: grab a deep fried Mars bar for me while you're at it!16:32
rgreening_Sime: and we are talking 4.1.2 workspace correct16:32
* apachelogger is wondering if Riddell is buying a new hat16:32
apacheloggerbluehat++16:32
_Simergreening: I'm talking about trunk.16:32
vorianok master blaster apachelogger, bug 28328416:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 283284 in kdiamond-kde4 "Depends on libkdegames4-kde4 which cannot be satisfied" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28328416:32
mornfallJontheEchidna: Hey.16:33
apacheloggervorian: there is no KUBUNTU-DEBIAN-DIFFERENCES file?16:33
mornfallJontheEchidna: Would you consider making a darcs branch, pretty please? : - )16:33
rgreening_Sime: hmm... kde4bindings 4.1.2 has the modules in question above. So, do I require kde4bindings or grab a copy and place in workspace 4.1.2 (should they be there anyway)?16:33
_Simergreening: they are slightly updated in trunk.16:34
vorianapachelogger: not that i see, should i add one?16:34
apacheloggervorian: please16:34
vorianyou got it16:35
JontheEchidnamornfall: ok :P16:35
apacheloggerotherwise it might get lost in the pre-jaunty merge16:35
* JontheEchidna reads up on darcs16:35
mornfallJontheEchidna: Riddell already has one, and he has some of your patches.16:35
rgreening_Sime: should workspace (4.1.2) have these cmake modules anyway? Would it hurt to copy from kde4bindings 4.1.2 to workspace? Or do I need the update?16:35
apacheloggermornfall: so why are you not using bzr?16:35
mornfallapachelogger: Do I need reasons?16:35
mornfallAnyhow. Where is kde4.mk in cdbs coming from in kubuntu? I don't have that on my Debian.16:36
apacheloggermornfall: well, using bzr would be tighter integrated with launchpad so I am just wondering ;-)16:36
mornfallapachelogger: I'm not using launchpad either.16:36
JontheEchidnamornfall: I believe we included kde4.mk in our cdbs package16:36
apacheloggermornfall: but we do :P16:36
mornfallapachelogger: That's your call.16:36
apacheloggertrue, then again stupid lp can't even import from darcs16:37
voriandone apachelogger16:39
* apachelogger pokes rgreening16:47
rgreeningapachelogger: hey16:48
rgreeningapachelogger: sup?16:48
_Simergreening: use the updates, and don't forge the *.py files too.16:49
apacheloggerrgreening: wanna do something useful? :P16:49
rgreening_Sime: k. thanks. will give it a shot16:49
rgreeningapachelogger: hmm... was that a dig...16:49
* rgreening pokes apachelogger back hard16:50
rgreening:P16:50
apacheloggermeh16:50
rgreeningapachelogger: sure. what can I do :)16:50
apacheloggerrgreening: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/debcheck/debcheck.py?dist=intrepid&package=kerry16:50
JontheEchidnamornfall: ok, so I darcs get'd your branch16:50
JontheEchidnanow I apply patches and record changes accordlingly?16:51
rgreeningapachelogger: I'll hve a look and see.16:51
apacheloggerrgreening: I'll file a bug and assing it to you, so we don't forget about that issue16:52
rgreeningapachelogger: Is that kde3.5 related?16:52
apacheloggeryes16:52
apacheloggerlibkonq4 is KDE 3 libkonq5 is KDE 416:52
apacheloggerso eventually it just needs a rebuild16:52
mornfallJontheEchidna: Wait.16:52
apacheloggeror it doesn't work with KDE 4 at all16:52
mornfallJontheEchidna: Run darcs pull.16:52
apacheloggeror it just needs a fix for the build system16:52
mornfallJontheEchidna: I have applied some already.16:52
JontheEchidnawill do16:53
mornfallJontheEchidna: Then also pull from http://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell/darcs/adept-3/16:53
rgreeningI only have 4.1 (Intrepid). I may need to ask a question or two in setting up a hardy pbuilder env16:53
rgreeningbut no problem.. I'll give it a go16:53
* JontheEchidna goes off to make a sandwhich16:53
mornfallJontheEchidna: Then, it would be great if you could record any pending changes you have.16:53
apacheloggerrgreening: that is for Intrepid16:53
mornfallJontheEchidna: And the bestest, publish your repository on http somewhere.16:54
rgreeningapachelogger: oh... doh16:54
apacheloggerrgreening: the dependency is broken because there is only libkonq516:54
rgreeningapachelogger: got it now.16:54
* rgreening is still half a sleep16:54
* rgreening off to get the source luke16:54
* mornfall goes off to TA.16:55
mornfallSee you around.16:55
a|wenis there a date for the next kubuntu meeting?17:03
apacheloggernot yet17:03
* a|wen needs to be a proper kubuntu member17:07
apacheloggerNightrose: do you happen to have the old doodle page at hand?17:08
apacheloggerwe probably should use the same times as options17:08
Nightroseapachelogger: i might be able to find it - give me a few secs17:09
* apachelogger needs to get sput to implement advanced buffer queries into quassel17:09
Nightroseapachelogger: http://doodle.ch/participation.html?pollId=84p3f6d3v3iypg4u ?17:10
apacheloggerlooking good17:10
apacheloggerNightrose: thank you honey17:10
apachelogger*hug*17:10
Nightrose:)17:10
rgreeningapachelogger: why is there no libkonq4-dev anyway, if we have a kdelibs4-dev?17:16
apacheloggerlibkonq is from kdebase17:17
apacheloggerpart of konqueror17:17
rgreeninglibkonq5-dev requires kdelibs5-dev17:18
apacheloggera|wen, Nightrose: thu, fri, sat, each slots from 14:00 to 23:00 as options sounds ok?17:18
apacheloggerrgreening: that is what I said :P17:18
rgreeningapachelogger: I can't see an easy fix for this bug17:18
apacheloggerrgreening: try rebuilding17:18
Nightroseapachelogger: sounds good - why not also wed?17:19
rgreeningagainst libkonq5 and kdelibs517:19
apacheloggeryus17:19
apacheloggerwell17:19
apacheloggeractually17:19
apacheloggerlibkonq5 and kdelibs417:19
apacheloggerrgreening: won't work most likely, but worth a shot17:19
apacheloggerNightrose: that is like tomorrow :P17:19
rgreeningI cant install libkonq5 as it require kdelibs517:20
apacheloggerkdelibs5 is KDE 417:20
apacheloggeryou can not not install it :P17:20
rgreeningyou said... "libkonq5 and kdelibs4"17:20
rgreeningwhich is not possible17:20
Nightroseapachelogger: hehe alright17:21
apacheloggerrgreening: why not?17:21
rgreeningcolor me stupid. I must not be understanding something17:21
rgreening:)17:22
apacheloggerlibkonq5 might be linked against kdelibsfoobar17:22
apacheloggerkerry would not care17:22
Nightroseapachelogger: i am visiting $bf i guess on saturday - maybe also friday - so I will either have to make time for it there if we do it then but oh well17:22
apacheloggerit only uses libkonq5's API17:22
a|wenapachelogger: sounds okay to me ... i should have a good number of options in those timespans17:22
apacheloggerNightrose: come on you need to have breaks anyway17:22
apacheloggerand ircing in bad isn't all that bad TBH17:22
Nightrosehehe17:22
apachelogger:P17:22
Nightrose:P17:22
Tm_TRiddell: sorry I was taken elsewhere17:25
rgreeningapachelogger: it needs kdelibs4-dev for dcopidl17:25
apacheloggera|wen, Nightrose, Riddell, yuriy, nixternal, vorian, JontheEchidna, rgreening, ScottK: http://doodle.ch/z923gkm3krawwnp317:26
Nightrosethx17:26
rgreeningapachelogger: OMG.. no Newfoundland TZ (GMT -3:30) :P heheh17:28
Tm_TRiddell: kbluetooth4 launches ok and no errors, but no systray icon either17:28
rgreeningapachelogger: nm.. my browser bugged. I found it :P17:29
apacheloggerok17:29
apacheloggerrgreening: btw, what is the problem with that dep?17:30
apacheloggera|wen: please add yourself to the agenda17:30
* apachelogger can edit the wiki again :D17:30
rgreeningapachelogger kdelibs4-dev prevents libkonq5-dev from being installed as libkonq5-dev pulls in kdelibs5-dev and that wants to remove kdelibs4-dev17:31
a|wenapachelogger: i'll do ... just need to create a my own wiki-page17:31
apacheloggerah17:31
apacheloggernice17:31
apacheloggerrgreening: please check if there is a KDE 4 version17:31
apacheloggerotherwise we need to remove kerry from the archives17:31
rgreeningyeah. I think so.. will look17:31
apacheloggerI find the wiki CSS horrible17:35
JontheEchidnamornfall: so after I've darcs recorded my changes, how do I got about getting them in your direction? :P17:38
JontheEchidnaoh, darcs send I assume17:39
rgreeningapachelogger: just did a quick search. Looks like nothing new on the kerry front. KDE4 has Strigi and Nepomuk, so kerry really shouldn't be a necessity. In fact, it's not part of the new Kickoff menu (whic kerry/beagle was a requirement for in KDE3.5 with Kickoff).17:39
apacheloggerrgreening: ok, please file a package removal request and poke me to subscribe ubuntu-archive17:39
=== haxvlia is now known as salviaz0r_tested
apacheloggerrgreening: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/PackageArchive#Removing Packages17:41
rgreeningty. I was going to ask. :)17:41
rgreeningI need to get some time and read all the docs17:41
apacheloggerrgreening: just read the TOC :P17:42
rgreeninglol17:42
apacheloggerif you know that there is documentation and know which keywords to use for the search that is really enough17:42
apacheloggermost of the stuff changes all the time anyway, so I always consult the wiki before doing something17:42
a|wenapachelogger: done... I've added myself to the meetings page now17:58
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: would this be Oxygen approved? http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/Woremar/adeptsexed.png18:06
rgreeningapachelogger: bug 28334818:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 283348 in kerry "[Package Removal Request] kerry - remove from Intrepid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28334818:26
apacheloggerwow19:18
apacheloggerI am so important :D19:18
apacheloggera|wen: perfect19:19
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: no19:19
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: apply should be green19:19
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: also the very doesn't make me happing a lot, what would revert changes do? remove packages?19:19
apacheloggers/very/wording19:20
JontheEchidnawell, I didn't do the wording :P19:20
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: anyway, the apply button should be green19:20
JontheEchidnakk19:20
apachelogger+ the revert string should be "Reset" and the apply should be "Apply"19:21
mornfallJontheEchidna: Do you mean the button icons?19:23
mornfallapachelogger: Green button? Are you sure?19:23
mornfallI haven't seen a green button in KDE so far.19:23
apacheloggermornfall: go to systemsettings19:23
mornfallJontheEchidna: The icons look fine to me.19:23
apacheloggerapply kind buttons get the green one19:23
mornfallapachelogger: You mean a green icon or green background?19:24
apacheloggermornfall: what green background?19:24
mornfallapachelogger: That's exactly what I have been wondering about.19:24
mornfall: - )19:24
apachelogger:)19:24
apacheloggermornfall: green icon19:24
mornfall [20:19]  apachelogger | #kubuntu-dev | JontheEchidna: apply should be green19:24
mornfall : - )19:24
mornfallYes, I get it now.19:24
* mornfall unconfused.19:24
JontheEchidnamornfall: ha, well in the patch I sent you I made a typo anyway19:25
JontheEchidnas/dialog-ok-reply/dialog-ok-apply19:25
JontheEchidnabrainfart :P19:26
mornfallJontheEchidna: As for getting me patches: ideally, put your repo on a http-accessible location.19:26
JontheEchidnahmm, I wonder if I can set up my computer as a server...19:27
mornfallJontheEchidna: If you have a host where you can ssh and others can http, you can use darcs push to keep it up to date.19:27
mornfall(Something like people.debian.org, but probably for ubuntu...)19:27
mornfallGotta practice bassoon for a bit, will be back shortly.19:28
JontheEchidnahave fun19:28
JontheEchidnahmm, I need hosting19:30
mornfallEh, I'm done for.19:40
mornfallJontheEchidna: If it's a problem for you, do a darcs send.19:40
mornfallIt should mail me the bundle.19:40
mornfall(Or if you don't have a working MTA, you can darcs send -O and mail me the resulting file.)19:41
vorianyay!19:42
vorianmy radio works19:42
JontheEchidnaI've darcs-sent you a few patches. One for making the package description text selectable/copyable (gotta love Qt) and like 3 for the icons, due to some silly errors19:43
nixternalapachelogger: my 6:00 PM for the meeting is more like a 6:30 PM just to be safe19:54
nixternalmy train pulls into the station at around 6:00PM and then it is a 2.5 mile walk which usually takes 20+ minutes19:54
=== coreymon is now known as coreymon77
rgreeningapachelogger: when using pbuild, if it fails during the cmake, it tells me to run dpkg-buildpackage which fails cause it's looking for makefiles (which are not generated). thoughts? I ran cmake -G "Unix Makefiles".. not sure if that's what I was supposed to do..20:13
apacheloggerrgreening: please paste20:26
rgreeningk...20:27
* rgreening searches his konsole log...20:27
rgreeninghmm.... gone from the buffer. basically, it failed in cmake... with:20:29
rgreeningCMake Error at plasma/scriptengines/python/CMakeLists.txt:30 (add_sip_python_module):20:29
rgreening  Unknown CMake command "add_sip_python_module".20:29
* apachelogger coughs and points at the readme file of the pbuilder-hooks branch :P20:29
rgreeninglol. I knew there had to be an answer...20:30
_Simergreening: yeah, I've noticed that too...20:30
rgreeninghold on...20:30
rgreening:)20:30
apachelogger  * I have the following in my .bash_aliases20:30
apachelogger      alias pbuild='rm -rf build && mkdir build && sudo pbuilder build --buildresult ./build --logfile ./build/BUILDLOG *dsc'20:30
rgreeningI have that20:31
rgreeningand used it20:31
apacheloggerwell then the buildlog should be in the ./build dir :P20:31
rgreeningdoh.. 1 sec20:31
apacheloggeranyway20:31
apacheloggerI think are just missing an include for the cmake module shipping add_sip_python_module20:31
apacheloggermight be in trunk's kdelibs20:31
apachelogger...if the file is missing completely...20:32
rgreeningI got that part fixed (I think). THe q was about the pbuilder telling me to run a command and it failing to restart the build process. BTW, my BUILDLOG is currently being overwritten... running a build attempt again.20:32
rgreeningIt gave the normal dpkg-buildpackage -xx -xx -xx... command as a way to restart.. it just fails saying couldn't find makefiles.20:34
rgreeningjust wondering if it needs a patch/hook for failed cmake20:34
rgreening:)20:34
rgreeningapachelogger: I added the cmake modules from trunk to the workspace cmake modules dir. seems to be building (at least so far).20:36
mornfallJontheEchidna: Hm, are you sure it got through? I don't seem to have anything in my mailbox. : - (20:39
JontheEchidnamornfall: me@mornfall.net, correct?20:39
mornfallYes.20:39
JontheEchidnahmm20:39
mornfallCan you maybe check your mailer log?20:39
mornfallErr, MTA I mean.20:40
* JontheEchidna wonders how to do that20:41
JontheEchidnaAccording to Adept I use exim420:42
mornfallHuh. Good question.20:43
mornfallTry looking at /var/log/mail.log : - )20:43
JontheEchidna/var/log/mail.* are all empty20:44
JontheEchidnamaybe that's bad, eheh.20:44
a|wenanybody cares to test kdesvn for kde4/intrepid? ... my intrepid VM is kindof broken, so can't test it myself :(20:46
a|wenI've put it into my PPA: https://edge.launchpad.net/~andreas-wenning/+archive20:48
a|wenapachelogger: if you have time ^^20:51
* a|wen starts downloading the daily build of kubuntu intrepid to set up a new VM20:54
ryanakcaCould someone review http://ryanak.ca/~ryan/kds.bzrbundle please, before I push it to LP?21:04
apacheloggerryanakca: bzr merge21:05
apacheloggerpretty old branch that is :P21:06
apacheloggera|wen: I should stop testing that full log feaute21:07
apacheloggerür21:07
apachelogger+r even21:07
* apachelogger has a typing issue today21:07
ryanakcaapachelogger: I made the bundle last week, never got any feedback before I left... looks good?21:07
apacheloggerryanakca: yus21:07
a|wenapachelogger: depending on the number of revisions, i would agree ;)21:08
apacheloggerit is fetching for 5 minutes now :P21:08
apacheloggeralways does at least 1021:08
rgreeninghow long does it take for a dput upload to launchpad to show up?21:09
ryanakcaapachelogger: should I commit it as intrepid or UNRELEASED?21:09
apacheloggerthat is the question21:10
apacheloggerryanakca: I would go with unreleased21:10
* apachelogger doesn't feel like uploading right now :P21:10
ryanakcaok, thanks21:10
ryanakcahehe, it's a small fix, I'm sure we can find other things to throw in with it :)21:11
ncfi1013_vlc has a blank window that is open and frozen and i cant close it. what do i do21:11
a|wenrgreening: usually around 10 minutes21:11
rgreeningok. I was wondering if I did it correct...21:12
rgreeningty21:12
a|wenat least my experience is that it updates every full 10 minutes or so21:12
ryanakcancfi1013_: Ctrl-Alt-Escape and then click on the frozen window. In the future, please use #kubuntu for support :)21:15
ncfi1013_thank you ryanakca yrs was the only 1 that workd21:17
apacheloggera|wen: worky welly21:20
apacheloggerin the 3 test cases I know of21:20
a|wenapachelogger: cool :)21:23
a|wenapachelogger: if it's going to get into intrepid I suppose Riddell is the one to ask how he likes it best?21:25
Riddellhmm?21:25
apacheloggerthat sounds odd21:25
apacheloggerreally21:25
apachelogger:P21:25
a|wenapachelogger: please refrase that yourself before trying to consume the text ;)21:26
a|wenRiddell: kdesvn is in a sad state in both hardy and intrepid (almost the same 1+ year old version); it doesn't work well with the new svn versions used21:27
a|wenRiddell: there exists a kde4 version of it (which have been in kde-experimental ppa) that i've packaged ... and hopefully can get into intrepid21:29
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: I haz fix for bug 28328121:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 283281 in kdebase "Depends on kdesktop which cannot be satisfied" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28328121:30
Riddella|wen: that would need to go in tonight then21:30
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: neatero, now you just need to remind of that when I next time ask about pending changes :P21:31
a|wenRiddell: i know ... that's why i'm working hard on it right now21:32
Riddella|wen: are you a regular kdesvn user?21:33
a|wenRiddell: i am ... but stopped using it when svn was updated on hardy and kdesvn started throwing errors at me like a madman with occasional crashes21:33
Riddella|wen: than I guess you're as good as any to judge if the new version should go in, I'll just do what you say :)21:35
a|wenRiddell: the current state is close to unusable... so that's really the no.1 reason21:37
JontheEchidnamornfall: I think I messed darcs send up when I pulled from Riddell's repo21:37
* JontheEchidna resent all his changes21:38
a|wenRiddell: I've until now had apachelogger test the package made, and that turned out positive ... I have it in a PPA now if anyone else can give it a spin: https://edge.launchpad.net/~andreas-wenning/+archive21:41
Riddella|wen: works for me21:46
Riddella|wen: what still needs done to it?21:46
a|wenRiddell: apart from maybe testing it a second time, nothing ... it's finished21:48
Riddella|wen: shall I upload?21:49
a|wenRiddell: yes, please ... i don't know if you just want to grab it from the ppa and remove the extra ppa changelog entry, or you rather want a finished link?21:51
RiddellI can do that21:51
RiddellScottK: bug 277256 is fixed?21:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 277256 in update-manager "Kubuntu upgrade to Intrepid removes needed packages" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27725621:51
a|wenRiddell: cool, thx21:52
Riddella|wen: up it goes, thanks21:53
a|wen:)21:55
_Simergreening: I don't have any problems with that add_sip_python_module macro here.22:00
rgreening_Sime: really...22:00
rgreeningwait.. how did you test it?22:01
a|wenRiddell: now the next thing is getting a new version of kdesvn into hardy-backports; a version that is compatible with svn 1.5 that is in hardy-backports now ... i think the most sensible is to grab the version from debian unstable; is there any kind of procedure for that?22:23
Riddella|wen: you'd need to ask the backports people if it would be accepted, but file a bug at launchpad.net/hardy-backports pointing to it and say you've compiled it and if it works22:25
Riddellthen talk nicely to ScottK22:25
a|wenRiddell: okay ... i'll do that22:26
RiddellJontheEchidna: adept uploaded with your patch thanks22:38
mornfallJontheEchidna: (Hm, and I still haven't received your darcs patch(es) : - \)22:39
JontheEchidnamornfall: :(22:39
* Riddell can't upload to his darcs repositors currently, lost ssh access to that server today22:40
a|wenScottK: please see bug 277049 ... do you think that is possible? and if yes, how do you want it handled; should i just proceed as with a "normal" backport?22:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 277049 in kdesvn "kdesvn is not compatible with SVN 1.5" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27704922:42
RiddellI don't think ScottK is around today22:48
JontheEchidnaAnybody working on kdenetwork? I have an upstream patch for it22:51
RiddellJontheEchidna: nobody that I know of22:51
JontheEchidnak, cool22:53
=== txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger
a|wenRiddell: he (ScottK) said he was away and would be back tonight iirc ... but then the question is when "tonight" is and in what timezone22:54
Riddellone of the american ones22:55
Riddelltxwikinger: are you voting today?22:55
txwikingerRiddell: ROFL22:55
txwikingerI need 3 years for citizenship22:55
a|weni feared so22:55
Riddelltxwikinger: aww, I'd have said vote for the liberal dude, I hear he can't speak English22:55
txwikingerNo.. he speaks English.. he just does not understand questions in English22:56
txwikingerJust like Gordon Brown :D22:56
Riddellho ho22:56
txwikingerI think the Liberals will lose today22:57
JontheEchidnaRiddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/57620/23:01
* apachelogger just ran against a door23:18
apacheloggeror rather it got smashed into my face23:18
apacheloggerKC quorum requires 3 people, right?23:20
txwikingerSue the door23:22
apacheloggermore like my bf :P23:22
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: so what is the status on bug 24879223:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 248792 in kdenetwork "Binary package knewsticker should be renamed to plasmoid-knewsticker" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24879223:24
apacheloggerthat is what I thought23:26
apacheloggerkubotu: chat23:26
kubotukpythonpluginfactory goes in to that server today23:26
apachelogger*nod*23:26
apacheloggerwell23:27
apacheloggerno one to talk to23:27
apacheloggertxwikinger: why does the pinentry thingy only affect you?23:27
Riddellapachelogger: that topic has just been posted to pkg-kde-talk23:27
txwikingerDon't know.. tell me why23:27
Riddellapachelogger: (in debian)23:27
txwikingerI have put the debug info in the bug apachelogger23:28
txwikingerOh.. I also found some issues with dbus23:28
txwikingerbut I did not get details out yet23:29
apacheloggertxwikinger: why do those only affect you?23:29
txwikingerNo idea23:29
txwikingerhardware?23:29
txwikingerbecause I have golden hands?23:29
txwikingerBecause of the water here? :D23:29
txwikingerapachelogger: Tell me what other test I can do and I will do that23:30
apacheloggerRiddell: is that a mailing list?23:30
apacheloggerah23:30
apacheloggergot it23:30
apacheloggertxwikinger: is your system upgraded or clean install?23:31
txwikingerupgraded23:31
apacheloggertxwikinger: did you try if the issues appear with a new user?23:32
txwikingerIt is a new user23:32
apacheloggerall new configs?23:32
txwikingerwell.. I copied over the gnupg stuff23:32
txwikingerI don't know how I can export and import the keys otherwise23:33
apacheloggeryou just need the .gpg files IIRC23:34
apacheloggertxwikinger: please do a ls in the .gnupg23:34
apacheloggerand paste the gpg-agent.conf gpg.conf options files23:34
apacheloggerif existing23:34
txwikingerhowever, I can run the same command from commandline and on a text file of the mail and it works23:34
a|wenScottK: discard the bug report i mentioned an hour or so ago... couldn't change it to be against hardy-backports; so please have a look at bug 28346823:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 283468 in hardy-backports "[hardy] kdesvn not compatible with svn 1.5 - please backport (import) kdesvn from debian unstable to hardy" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28346823:34
JontheEchidnaRiddell: I got an adept crash caused by the software-properties patch. To reproduce open adept without root, open software-props-kde. s-p-kde will give you the "needs root" popup window and exit, adept will then crash23:35
txwikingerapachelogger:23:35
txwikinger-rw-r--r-- 1 raj-intrepid raj-intrepid     50 2008-10-13 14:21 gpg-agent-info-oulp-intrepid23:35
txwikinger-rw------- 1 raj-intrepid raj-intrepid   9379 2008-10-10 18:33 gpg.conf23:35
JontheEchidnasort of a corner case I suppose. We could quickfix this by disabling the button if adept don't haz root23:35
apacheloggertxwikinger: that is all? Oo23:35
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: that seems more natural to me anyway23:36
txwikingerapachelogger: you want the contents of the files?23:36
apacheloggertxwikinger: well, is this a complete ls?23:36
apacheloggerbut yes, I'd like the content23:36
apacheloggerespecially the -agent.conf23:36
txwikingerNo.. that is not a complete ls23:37
mornfallJontheEchidna: Well, the s-p-kde patch has other issues.23:37
mornfallJontheEchidna: Like awfully misnamed functions. : - )23:37
txwikingerapachelogger: GPG_AGENT_INFO=/tmp/gpg-uXKXnm/S.gpg-agent:6522:123:38
txwikingerapachelogger: have to get supper ... back later23:38
mornfallI'd apply it if you could fix it I guess. :)23:39
mornfallBut I'll have to sleep real soon now, so some other day.23:39
* JontheEchidna would have to get darcs send working anyway ;-)23:44
a|wenScottK: i'll be leaving irc for now ... if you have any comments to either kdesvn or kdepim just comment on the bugs or throw me a mail23:51
Riddellquick test needed, what's the output of 'kde4-config --path locale' ?23:55

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