| kwwii | moin | 08:19 |
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| thorwil | http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081013-german-court-google-image-thumbnails-infringe-on-copyright.html | 16:59 |
| thorwil | i hope i will not have to look for other ways to get at reference pictures because of this judicial stupidity :/ | 17:00 |
| kwwii | omg | 17:03 |
| kwwii | that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard | 17:03 |
| Nece228 | finally ubuntu team changed intrepid wallpaper to a new and beautiful! | 17:43 |
| kwwii | Nece228: you apparently missed the email I sent to the list | 17:44 |
| Nece228 | kwwii: what email? | 17:46 |
| kwwii | I announced the new wallpaper on friday | 17:46 |
| kwwii | rico sta. cruz made the new stuff....really nice, eh? | 17:47 |
| Nece228 | kwwii: i mean this: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-8-10-Has-a-Brand-New-Wallpaper-95451.shtml | 17:47 |
| kwwii | lol, I like how people take things that I said and quote them as if mark said them :-) | 17:48 |
| kwwii | and post "news" without really trying to get to the real information | 17:49 |
| Nece228 | kwwii: this wallpaper is really nice | 17:49 |
| kwwii | glad to hear that you like it! | 17:49 |
| Nece228 | kwwii: best of all ubuntu wallpapers, because we all are bored of simple abstract images | 17:49 |
| kwwii | well, the heron was just as good (and not abstract either) | 17:50 |
| kwwii | but I do agree with the over-use of abstract images | 17:50 |
| Nece228 | kwwii: heron is nice too but not as intrepid | 17:57 |
| Nece228 | kwwii: theres already thread in forum and all people agree that new wallpaper is nice | 18:01 |
| Nece228 | kwwii: but how about new theme? its still not deffered and theres no big progress | 18:05 |
| hagabaka | hmm, i actually like http://news.softpedia.com/images/extra/LINUX/large/ubuntu810alpha1-large_001.jpg | 18:35 |
| Nece228 | any news about new theme? | 18:37 |
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| jws141 | Hrm, murrine trunk seems a bit faster than the packaged engine for Intrepid, maybe a placebo effect? | 20:48 |
| Cimi | jws141, I have rewritten the whole drawing code | 20:48 |
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| Cimi | it should be faster | 20:48 |
| dashua | Cimi: Very nice. | 20:48 |
| dashua | Hopefully, it will get packaged for Intrepid. | 20:49 |
| Cimi | http://www.cimitan.com/murrine/project/murrine/development | 20:49 |
| dashua | It's noticeably faster, even w/ Compiz. | 20:50 |
| dashua | :) | 20:50 |
| dashua | Nice work mate. | 20:51 |
| Nece228 | let me see that... | 20:51 |
| dashua | Getting a new snapshot packaged shouldn't be too hard, eh? | 20:52 |
| dashua | The only issue with trunk, is all the older themes are written with style instead of profile. | 20:52 |
| Nece228 | dashua: where can i get murrine trunk? | 20:53 |
| dashua | Not a hard fix in the gtkrc. | 20:53 |
| dashua | Cimi: Any other way around that? | 20:53 |
| dashua | Nece228: svn co http://svn.gnome.org/svn/murrine/trunk/murrine | 20:53 |
| Nece228 | dashua: The requested URL /svn/murrine/trunk/murrine was not found on this server. | 20:54 |
| dashua | Nece228: svn co http://svn.gnome.org/svn/murrine/trunk/ murrine | 20:54 |
| dashua | Nece228: Typo | 20:54 |
| dashua | Second one | 20:54 |
| Nece228 | dashua: thanks, so i need download all source files? | 20:55 |
| dashua | Yes | 20:55 |
| dashua | ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr --enable-animation. make, make install | 20:55 |
| Nece228 | dashua: oh man i need to press right mouse and download link | 20:57 |
| Nece228 | dashua: o | 20:57 |
| Nece228 | dashua: to every file | 20:57 |
| dashua | Nece228: ? | 20:57 |
| dashua | Do you have subversion installed? | 20:57 |
| Nece228 | dashua: its pretty long way to download all these files | 20:58 |
| dashua | Run that command in a terminal | 20:58 |
| dashua | It takes a few seconds to compile. | 20:58 |
| Cimi | bb in 2 hours | 21:02 |
| dashua | Cimi: Pz. | 21:02 |
| kwwii | Cimi: is this the newest? | 21:04 |
| kwwii | Last Changed Rev: 94 | 21:04 |
| kwwii | Last Changed Date: 2008-10-11 14:51:01 +0200 (Sat, 11 Oct 2008) | 21:04 |
| kwwii | stupid question perhaps, but before I do all this work I want to make sure | 21:05 |
| kwwii | ok, I take that question back | 21:07 |
| jws141 | kwwii: 94 is the latest revision unless Cimi has something planned. | 21:25 |
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| kwwii | dashua: yeah, I checked myself, kinda stupid question really | 21:26 |
| dashua | Ha, np :) | 21:26 |
| dashua | kwwii: Just watch the gtkrc's will not work because of that style-profile change a few revisions ago. | 21:27 |
| dashua | Not a big deal to fix. | 21:27 |
| kwwii | dashua: to be honest, I think that will be a deciding reason against using it | 21:27 |
| kwwii | as anything anyone downloads will no longer work | 21:27 |
| kwwii | fixing our few gtkrcs is easy | 21:27 |
| dashua | There may be an easier workaround in the code, but I'm not sure of that. | 21:28 |
| dashua | It's definitely faster. | 21:28 |
| dashua | No real benchmark tests, just personal feel. | 21:29 |
| dashua | Dust is just so sexxy with my laptop due the glossy screen. I can't wait to show it off at the nearest coffee shop. | 21:30 |
| kwwii | hehe | 21:30 |
| kwwii | I am trying to build a new package, we'll see what comes out of it | 21:31 |
| kwwii | I can at least suggest it (and put it in my PPA) | 21:31 |
| dashua | Nice | 21:31 |
| kwwii | but every time I make a package for ubuntu out of the svn I find some new problem (I am not a developer anymore!) | 21:32 |
| dashua | Cimi tweaked the contrast in the engine, so try experimenting with lower values. It look quite nice with Human. | 21:32 |
| dashua | Ah | 21:33 |
| dashua | Anyway, nice work altogether. I think Intrepid looks very sexxy. | 21:35 |
| kwwii | I wish we could have done more radical changes, personally, but things take longer sometimes I guess | 21:38 |
| kwwii | lol, I just found the most useless status icons ever....the bittorrent client | 21:40 |
| dashua | I was reading a Linux magazine today about Mark Shuttleworth contributing to GNOME to make Ubuntu look on par or better than Apple. | 21:40 |
| dashua | It will come, I'm sure. I think it looks quite good now. | 21:41 |
| kwwii | yeah, we are hiring several people to form a team which can take something like that on | 21:41 |
| dashua | Ha | 21:41 |
| dashua | That is nice. | 21:42 |
| kwwii | until now, I am the only person at the company doing all the work (packaging, bug fixing, and artwork for all of gtk/metacity/gdm/usplash, etc) | 21:42 |
| dashua | Whoa, I bet you are busy. | 21:42 |
| kwwii | being busy isn't the bad part...the bad thing is working on several different totally different aspects at the same time | 21:43 |
| kwwii | and I do quite a bit more than just that...I also work on the mobile stuff, some marketing stuff, and every now and then a bit of the website graphics | 21:44 |
| dashua | I am still very fond of the Human theme for nostalgic reasons, so I switch back every once and again. | 21:44 |
| kwwii | and marketing graphics, and secret projects that never come to be, and, and, and | 21:44 |
| kwwii | yeah, I really do like the ubuntulooks engine | 21:44 |
| kwwii | I really like the scrollbars (the highlights are nice), and the progress bars | 21:44 |
| dashua | I'm sure there is a lot of behind-the-scenes work the community does not realize. | 21:45 |
| dashua | Deprecated, we should have an official funeral. | 21:46 |
| kwwii | hehe, no doubt | 21:46 |
| kwwii | I wish we would have paid Cimi to work on some stuff similar to that for murrine...even if it never made it into the official branch | 21:46 |
| kwwii | but alas, until we have a team formed it seems things are somewhat on the back burner | 21:47 |
| dashua | Hopefully, maybe for the next release or two for something more radical. | 21:48 |
| dashua | People do not realize these changes take time, but I guess they are upset with being told of a new change. | 21:49 |
| dashua | I actually saw a copy of Ubuntu 8.04 for sale today at Best Buy. Things are definitely progressing. | 21:50 |
| kwwii | hehe, cool | 21:57 |
| kwwii | sounds good :-) | 21:57 |
| kwwii | time for sleep | 22:04 |
| kwwii | have fun! | 22:04 |
| * Cimi -> bed | 23:54 | |
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